Health Friday 7.11.2025 Open Thread: Establishment Medicine Declares War on HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

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Health Friday is a series devoted to information about Big Pharma, vaccines, general health, and associated topics. As today’s offering speaks to the disaster of the COVID-19 “vaccines”, Yours Truly dedicates it to all those persons, of whatever age or location, who have come down with “vaccine”-induced injuries, illnesses, or disabilities, as a result of the COVID-19 “vaccines” (Bioweapon Toxin Injections) that they had put into their bodies; and, also, to all those persons, of whatever age or location, who have passed away from the negative effects of the COVID-19 “vaccines” that they had put into their bodies.

There are Important Notifications from our host, Wolf Moon; the Rules of our late, good Wheatie; and, certain caveats from Yours Truly, of which readers should be aware. They are linked here. Note: Yours Truly has checked today’s offering for any AI-generated content. To the best of her knowledge and belief, there is none. If readers wish to post any AI-generated content in today’s discussion thread, they, must cite their source. Thank you.

Yours Truly has written extensively on this board regarding what she calls Establishment Medicine. Establishment Medicine can be found in multiple areas, among them: The teaching of “consensus-centered” medicine (otherwise known as “the science is settled” medicine) in medical schools (this appears to be the approach in medical education currently); the “suggestion” or “advice” that physicians who choose a specialty in which to practice (for example, Internal Medicine) “need” to become board-credentialed by a private medical credentialing board (for example, credentialing through ABIM (the American Board of Internal Medicine, https://www.abim.org/); physician membership in the American Medical Association https://www.ama-assn.org/; and, “adherence” to the “recommendations” of the “routine vaccination schedules” of the Centers for Disease Control (CDC, https://www.cdc.gov/); and, the “endorsed vaccination schedule” of the American Academy of Pediatrics (https://www.aap.org/); the “routine guidance” of the FDA (Food and Drug Administration, https://www.fda.gov/); and, the “rules” and “regulations” of the State Medical Licensing Board in the state in which the physician resides, and which physician’s License to Practice Medicine must be secured prior to starting medical practice, and which License must be renewed after a certain period of time). Yours Truly will make it clear at the outset that there are many caring, perceptive physicians — in hospitals, in medical clinics, in stand-alone private physicians’ offices, and so on — who likely do not blindly ascribe to the “diktats” of Establishment Medicine. Perhaps there are physicians among this number who understand that the COVID-19 “vaccines” are dangerous and deadly. Perhaps there are physicians among this number who observing that their COVID-19 “vaccinated” loved ones, patients, or colleagues are presenting with COVID-19 “vaccine”-induced injuries, etc. Perhaps there are physicians among this number who would prefer to speak the truth about the COVID-19 “vaccines”, but refrain, due to concerns that they could be “disciplined”, or lose their License to Practice Medicine, by their state Medical Licensing Board.

Until very recently, all was going well for Establishment Medicine — its control over the health of the American public was “unchallengeable” — then, two important things happened: One, that the American public in general began to realize the dangers and deadliness of the COVID-19 “vaccines”; and, Two, the confirmation of Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., as the Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) of the new administration under the forty-seventh President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, a few months ago.

On 9 June 2025, the seventeen then-current members of the CDC’s ACIP committee (Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices) were fired by Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. (https://www.hhs.gov/press-room/hhs-restores-public-trust-vaccines-acip.html, “HHS Takes Bold Step to Restore Public Trust in Vaccines by Reconstituting ACIP”, 9 June 2025.) Please see the screenshot from this announcement, below:

The reason? — Corruption of the ACIP committee members. The United States Congress reported on this corruption back in 2000: https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/decades-of-corruption-congressional, “DECADES OF CORRUPTION: Congressional Report Confirms CDC’s ACIP Has Been Compromised Since the 1990s”, by Nicolas Hulscher, MPH, 10 June 2025. Please see the screenshot from this article, below:

One of the most-compromised (now former) members of the ACIP committee was Dr. Paul Offit.

And, of course, there was a large outcry from all over Establishment Medicine. One example: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rfk-jr-removes-members-cdc-immunization-advisory-committee-acip/, “RFK Jr. removes every member of CDC vaccine advisory committee”, 10 June 2025. Please see the screenshot from this article, below, and keep it in mind for later on regarding today’s offering:

The ACIP Adult Immunization Schedule that was issued in May 2025 is found here (the actual CDC website no longer lists this schedule): https://www.dph.ncdhhs.gov/news/press-releases/2025/06/03/cdc-updates-covid-19-vaccine-schedule. The ACIP Adult Immunization Schedule that was issued in May 2025 has several changes; among them, the previous CDC “recommendation” that all pregnant women get COVID-19 “vaccinated.” The May 2025 schedule, instead, encourages “shared clinical decisions” between the physician and the pregnant patient. And this is where “the rest of the story” begins.

The outcry against the immunization schedule changes by Establishment Medicine was instant, loud, and immense. For example, this: https://www.pharmacist.com/APhA-Press-Releases/apha-withholds-enforsement-of-acip-adult-immunization-schedule. Please see a screenshot from this article, below:

Then, on 9 June 2025, when HHS Secretary Kennedy, Jr., fired the seventeen then-current ACIP members, he replaced them with eight new members: Dr. Joseph Hibbeln, MD, ABNP, CAPT USPHS (Ret.); Martin Kullorff, PhD; Retself Levi, PhD; Robert W. Malone, MD; Cody Meissner, MD; James Pagano, MD, FACEP; Vicky Pebsworth, PhD, RN; and, Michael Ross, MD. Their biographies are here: https://www.cdc.gov/acip/membership/roster.html. (Dr. Ross withdrew from the ACIP committee due to “financial holdings” reasons.) Establishment Medicine countered with hue and cry that none of these medical professionals were “experienced in vaccines”, and so on.

The June ACIP meeting was held on 25-27 June 2025, with the now-seven new members in attendance. Even while the meeting was going on, Establishment Medicine was “sounding the alarm” over the new committee and what they would do. Please see: https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/adult-non-flu-vaccines/vaccine-public-health-advocates-warn-fallout-acip-meeting, “Vaccine, public health advocates warn of fallout from ACIP meeting”, by Chris Dall, MA, 27 June 2025. Please see the screenshots from this article, below:

In fact, the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) issued this statement: https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/news/32529/AAP-will-continue-to-publish-its-own-vaccine, “AAP will continue to publish its own vaccine recommendations after CDC advisers sow distrust”, by Melissa Jenco, 26 June 2025. Please the screenshot from this article, below:

Keep the above statement from the AAP in mind, as it is pertinent what happened in early July 2025. It appears that, while Establishment Medicine was making statements about how they opposed the new ACIP members, the new ACIP vaccine schedules and the new CDC policies, they were also making behind-the-scenes preparations for suing HHS Secretary Kennedy, Jr. And, in fact, this is what occurred: on 2 July 2025, several Establishment Medicine groups filed suit against HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., to force HHS to reinstate the former ACIP recommended vaccine schedules: https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/breaking-medical-cartel-sues-rfk, “BREAKING: Medical Cartel Sues RFK Jr. for Pulling COVID Shot Recommendations for Kids and Pregnant Women”, by Nicolas Hulscher, MPH, 7 July 2025. Please see the screenshots from this article, below:

Note: The blue hyperlinks in the Hulscher article (one needs to go The Focal Points website for the Hulscher article link) lead to scientific articles about the dangers of the COVID-19 “vaccines”, and to the AAP, et al., lawsuit against Secretary Kennedy, Jr.

The AAP statement regarding the lawsuit, here, https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/news/32580, “AAP suing HHS over vaccine policy”, 7 July 2025, also has the link to the filed lawsuit against Secretary Kennedy, Jr. Please see the screenshot below from the AAP statement:

Screenshots of portions of the forty-two page lawsuit document are below:

Another link to the entire lawsuit document is here: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25992348-aap-et-al-v-rfk-et-al-filed-complaint/.

In other words, in Yours Truly’s opinion, the AAP and the other medical organizations listed in the screenshot above want to force Secretary Kennedy, Jr., to “go back to the good old days” of the “old ACIP and the old CDC” — the same entities that “recommended” the dangerous, deadly COVID-19 “vaccines” without first demanding complete, detailed, and analyzed data from “clinical trials” for these injectables. Back to the “good old days” when every state legislature, every pharmacy, every medical clinic, every hospital, and almost every licensed physician, blindly followed the CDC “recommendations” regarding vaccinations of children and of adults. Back to the “good old days” of “the science is settled” — and those physicians who boldly told the truth, and continue to tell the truth, about the dangers and deadliness of the COVID-19 “vaccines” (for example, Dr. Peter A. McCullough, MD; Dr. Ryan Cole, MD; Dr. Pierre Kory, MD; Dr. Charles Hoffe, MD; and, Dr. Robert Malone, MD) were belittled; were marginalized by their medical specialty organizations; were fired from their jobs; were prosecuted by their Medical Specialty licensing organizations; were prosecuted by their state Medical Licensing Boards — were “disciplined” by these Boards, or had their License to Practice Medicine “restricted”, or even revoked, by these Boards. Back to the “good old days” when Establishment Medicine was the sole arbiter of health in the United States.

In Yours Truly’s opinion, the lawsuit by Establishment Medicine against HHS Secretary Kennedy, Jr., is the culmination of months of negative reactions regarding his nomination as the new HHS Secretary; regarding his confirmation for the position; regarding what appear to be some ambiguous and/or conflicting statements he has made since his confirmation; and certainly regarding his actions as HHS Secretary to attempt to rein in the tyranny of Establishment Medicine in HHS decisions. In some ways, the AAP, et al., lawsuit against Sec. Kennedy, Jr., may be similar to liberal “Judicial Establishment” actions against President Donald Trump 47 regarding blocking his efforts to deport illegal aliens in the United States.

THERE. MUST. BE. JUSTICE.

THERE. MUST. BE. TRUTH.

Peace, Good Energy, Respect: PAVACA

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Gudthots

May God bless, protect and grant good success RFKjr and all those fighting for liberty in the realms of “science” and “medicine”!

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Wolf Moon

Amen!

Gail Combs

More info on MI6 Robert Maxwell and Scientific Publications.

Do not forget the Fabiam Socialists in the UK and in US education.

…Preston suggests that Maxwell’s earliest business breakthrough was funded by MI6: this involved the purchase of Springer-Verlag’s entire stock of learned scientific journals, books and articles. Very oddly, Preston chooses not to mention Maxwell’s initial business partner in this publishing venture which became his best known company, Pergamon Press. This business partner was Paul Rosbaud, an MI6 informant who had remained in Germany throughout the Third Reich and supplied Britain and America with detailed intelligence about Germany’s embryonic nuclear programme. Many aspects of Rosbaud’s life and intelligence career remain mysterious, but he played an important role in Maxwell’s story and his omission from Preston’s book is strange.

The postwar MI6 effort to acquire the Third Reich’s scientific intelligence (and just as importantly, to find out how much knowledge the Soviet Union had acquired from the same sources) was directed by Sir Charles Hambro, who as part of these operations arranged finance for the young Maxwell’s new publishing venture (in partnership with Rosbaud and Springer).

Unsurprisingly, several of Maxwell’s earliest postwar business associates were former (in fact only ‘semi’-retired) intelligence officers. These included Maj. John Whitlock and his fellow SOE/MI6 veteran Hugh Quennell, who both served on the board of the British publishers Butterworths, acting as the front for Maxwell’s new MI6-sponsored alliance with Springer….

From:
Fall: The Mystery of Robert Maxwell by John Preston. Published by Viking,
London, 2021. ISBN: 978-0-241-38867-9. Hardback, 352 pages. LINK

Also: Thomas Henry Huxley – Darwin’s Bulldog,

From WIKI

….Huxley was slow to accept some of Darwin’s ideas, such as gradualism, and was undecided about natural selection, but despite this, he was wholehearted in his public support of Darwin. Instrumental in developing scientific education in Britain, he fought against the more extreme versions of religious tradition. Huxley coined the term “agnosticism” in 1869 and elaborated on it in 1889 to frame the nature of claims in terms of what is knowable and what is not….

Aldous Huxley ( Brave New World ) was a grandson of the prominent biologist Thomas Henry Huxley. Aldous was was a member of the Fabian Society. Aldous brother, Julian Huxley, was the first Director-General of UNESCO.

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Gudthots

I voted for this.

Gudthots

This has to happen.

The searing of the consciences of these young women from witnessing themselves killing their own babies. The spiritual darkness that overtakes them in the wake of the death of their baby. It’s beyond tragic. It’s setting up another traumatized generation.

kalbokalbs

Friday just got better.

Firefly

  :pepper:   :banana-mario:   :banana2: 

Wolf Moon

Nice connection of dots here!!!

Gudthots

Father, may we be always ready to believe that you are at work in the lives of the younger generations!

Gudthots

Collin Rugg
@CollinRugg
Jul 5
REPORT: Church attendance among Gen Z has quadrupled in the UK, reversing the trend of declining Christian affiliation.

Gen Zers, many of whom didn’t even grow up in the church, say Christianity is providing them with answers they can’t find anywhere else.

“In 2018, just 4% of 18–24-year-olds said that they attended church at least monthly. Today, says The Quiet Revival, this has risen to 16% with young men increasing from 4% to 21%, and young women from 3 to 12%,” Bible Society reported.

“On some metrics, this data says that young people are actually more likely to be weekly religious attendees than millennials are,” said former pastor Ryan Burge to Vox.

“This is huge, we’ve never seen that before. We always assumed religion’s going to continue to decline, and it doesn’t look like that decline is continuing.”

According to the New York Times, the Catholic Church has baptized over 17,000 people in France, the highest yearly number in over 20 years.

Amazing news.

Video: natalyatoryanski / tt.

Barb Meier

Thank you, PAVACA!

TheseTruths

In some ways, the AAP, et al., lawsuit against Sec. Kennedy, Jr., may be similar to liberal “Judicial Establishment” actions against President Donald Trump 47 regarding blocking his efforts to deport illegal aliens in the United States. 

I agree. It seems that a lawsuit is the only way they can come up with to stop him, but I don’t see that they have grounds to sue. RFKJ was appointed by the president to head the agency.

They claim that RFKJ’s directive has harmed all the plaintiffs, which are as follows:

AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS,
AMERICAN COLLEGE OF PHYSICIANS,
INC., AMERICAN PUBLIC HEALTH
ASSOCIATION, INFECTIOUS DISEASES
SOCIETY OF AMERICA, MASSACHUSETTS
PUBLIC HEALTH ASSOCIATION D/B/A
MASSACHUSETTS PUBLIC HEALTH
ALLIANCE, SOCIETY FOR MATERNAL-
FETAL MEDICINE, and JANE DOE,
Plaintiffs

They just don’t want change, but change is what the people voted for and what Pres. Trump wants.

Gail Combs

Others are saying the lawsuit is GOOD NEWS! (Can not find the tweet)

Think Discovery.

As long as we get a decent judge and hopefully jury, perhaps all the evidence of harm will finally come out.

https://www.vigilantfox.com/p/medical-cartel-sues-rfk-jr-for-pulling

TheseTruths

Feds arrest R.I. man for death threats against Trump and top White House officials

A Rhode Island man has been arrested and charged with making death threats against President Donald Trump and other top administration officials, acting Rhode Island United States Attorney Sara Miron Bloom said Wednesday…

According to a statement from Miron Bloom’s office, [Carl D.] Montague, [37], made an “obscenity-laced” post on Trump’s Truth Social site on June 27, where he threatened to shoot and kill the Republican president. 

Prosecutors said Montague also made the same threat against U.S. Attorney General Pamela Bondi and White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller.

Montague was charged by a criminal complaint with threats against the president; interstate threats; threats to assault; and kidnap, or murder of a United States official, judge, or law enforcement officer. ..

The incident was investigated by the FBI, U.S. Secret Service, and the Providence Police Department, federal prosecutors said.

Our country, Pres. Trump, and our officials need prayer.

scott467

Amazing.

One guy goes on the Internet and makes an unhinged threat he couldn’t possibly carry out, and:

1) the FIB investigates him immediately

2) the Secret Service investigates him immediately

3) Providence Police Dept. investigates him immediately

4) he’s charged with threats against the POTUS

5) he’s charged with interstate threats

6) he’s charged with threats to assault

7) he’s charged with threats to kidnap or murder

All that in just two weeks or less.

But Jeffrey Epstein can rape minors for fun and profit, run a global Satanic ped0 cult franchise with high and mighty clients from all over the world, for decades, involving billions of U.S. dollars and financial crimes for good measure…

And the DoJ and FIB and Secret Service and the other 17 U.S. intelligence agencies just can’t find anyone to charge with anything at all.

Just nothing.

He was that good.

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Aubergine

I’ve given up. Don’t think for a minute I’m not still pissed and disappointed. Enraged, really.

But I feel the same way I felt early on in Covid, when I was begging people in my “real” life to rebel, fight back, do something. Nothing worked. Almost all of them went along with masking, and distancing, and all the dumb shit that went along with it. And we “trusted Trump.” He was the President for the beginning of Covid, remember. People still say “Warp Speed” was his way of saving the world from total annihilation, etc. It was eleventy-D chess, or something. But I don’t think is was, not anymore. I think the whole of Covid was exactly what it looked like, and it continues to be so. That’s why they’re going to give “at risk” babies a poison shot. They “believe” Covid was a terrible “pandemic.” It’s a joke, but the powers-that-be don’t think so. And RFK, Jr., whatever he believes, can’t really fight that far above his weight class.

I am going to sit back, hide and watch, as my Dad used to say. There really is no alternative. And when we come to the end of another Trump term, and Epstein and his cabal of perverts has faded from view in the rearview mirror, we’ll see how people think then. Because I’m 95% sure nothing else is going to be done about it. All of the speculation about how they’re lying because they’re doing something we’ll see later is just something we’ve talked about here before: hopium.

I would love to be wrong. I would love to be surprised. I know people are going to say I’m black-pilling, and I don’t care. I’m not a pessimist, or an optimist, I’m a realist. And I’m not blind. The nonsense of saying they’re lying because they can’t tell the truth doesn’t explain AT ALL why they didn’t just push back on that memo as a fake/preliminary/unofficial whatever, and then shut the hell up. Nope, they doubled down, shamed us for asking questions, and here we are.

I have vowed that this is my last word here on Epstein, unless and until a miracle happens and the hopium becomes reality. So anybody can fire at will, but I am done.

singingsoul1

May Christ hold you and keep you . I feel your pain. Truth always wins light always wins over darkness. Nothing will stay hidden and all will be reviled in God’s time not ours.
As much as I wish Epstein list would be exposed now I realize and accept who is in control at the end not I.

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Aubergine

Thanks, singing.

Aubergine

Thank you, P. I appreciate all you do, very much.

TheseTruths

Because I’m 95% sure nothing else is going to be done about it. 

There is an excellent chance that we will not know what is done about it, just as we don’t know what is being done now. That’s the point that several people have been making here. The masses are clamoring to be given something, right now, but that is not always possible. And what they are demanding is not always feasible for excellent reasons. Some of those possible reasons have been enumerated here several times, but have been ignored.

This is not hopium. It’s a terrible reality and very possibly the perilous situation the Trump administration finds itself in for reasons outside of its control, reasons that are very possibly world-shaking.

I don’t think this is a conventional case, so as long as people are looking for conventional actions and solutions, they are going to be disappointed. I’m sorry that you will most likely fall into that category. We are powerless to fix the Epstein situation, which goes way beyond mere prosecutions for child trafficking, so having a list in hand will not solve it.

Since you say this is your last word on Epstein, I’m guessing you will still comment here on other matters. I hope so.

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TheseTruths

Clandestine:

Observe the timeline:

July 8th: Supreme Court overrules California District Judge blocking Trump’s EO to undertake “large scale reductions” at federal agencies.

July 10th: We get reports that there are mass firings going on at the DOJ/FBI.

Sounds like Trump got the green light to begin his mass cuts in the intelligence community, and the swamp purge is underway. Now Trump, and his appointees, can remove any bad actors at will, under the guise of government efficiency. Brilliant.

I understand people are thirsty for results, but Trump and his team haven’t even fully cleaned house yet. Activist Dem judges have been obstructing him this entire time. Trump signed this EO in February, and just two days ago, it was finally overturned by the Supreme Court.

Clearly there are still leakers and Deep State loyalists embedded within the DOJ/FBI. Wouldn’t it make sense for Trump and his appointees to remove the bad apples first?

Patience. There are layers to this.

TradeBait2

Exactly – he is correct. That is why I posted to hold our fire. Patriots are doing things to draw the vermin out of their holes and expose more. There will be time to redirect our fire at the remaining targets when the smoke of this initial salvo has cleared.

Brave and Free

👍

TheseTruths

ICE operation in Minneapolis arrests criminal sex offenders: Authorities

During a targeted enforcement operation between June 6 and June 11, authorities say they arrested 11 people convicted of various charges.

Below are the details provided about those arrested by ICE as part of the operation:

• Pao Angelo Vang, convicted of second-degree sexual assault of a child on June 6, 2025.

Thong Lao, convicted of second-degree sexual assault of a child on June 6, 2025.

Tou Pao Lee, convicted of soliciting a minor on June 6, 2025.

Va Vang, convicted of first-degree sexual assault on June 6, 2025.

Xiong Pao Vang, convicted of lewd or lascivious acts with a child under 14 on June 6, 2025.

Yee Shae, convicted of first-degree sexual abuse of a minor on June 6, 2025.

Yia Xiong, convicted of third-degree criminal sexual conduct on June 6, 2025.

Pok Vue, convicted of fourth-degree criminal sexual conduct on June 10, 2025.

Hue Nai Cheng, convicted of first-degree criminal sexual conduct on June 11, 2025.

Vang Neng Lao, convicted of second-degree criminal sexual conduct on June 11, 2025.

Dao Moua, convicted of third-degree criminal sexual conduct on June 6, 2025.

“These pedophiles and sex offenders are the sickos our brave ICE law enforcement are putting their lives on the line to arrest and remove from American communities,” said ICE Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin in a statement. “Governor Walz and his fellow sanctuary politicians are fighting to keep these sex offenders and other criminal illegal aliens in our country. Instead of comparing ICE to the Nazi-Gestapo, Governor Walz should be thanking our law enforcement for removing these pedophiles from Minnesota.”

Officials with DHS say that 70% of ICE arrests have convictions or pending charges.

scott467

• Pao Angelo Vang
• Thong Lao
• Tou Pao Lee
• Va Vang
• Xiong Pao Vang 2025.
• Yee Shae
• Yia Xiong
• Pok Vue
• Hue Nai Cheng
• Vang Neng Lao
• Dao Moua

Are there any actual Americans in Minneapolis?

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GA/FL

Chi-neez?

Barb Meier

I asked Grok 3. My instinct was Vietnam, but they could also be from China, Vietnam, Laos, and Thailand.

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What nation do these names likely come from? Thong Lao

• Tou Pao Lee

• Va Vang

• Xiong Pao Vang 2025.

• Yee Shae

• Yia Xiong

• Pok Vue

• Hue Nai Cheng

• Vang Neng Lao

• Dao Moua

The names listed—Thong Lao, Tou Pao Lee, Va Vang, Xiong Pao Vang, Yee Shae, Yia Xiong, Pok Vue, Hue Nai Cheng, Vang Neng Lao, and Dao Moua—are most likely associated with the Hmong ethnic group, an indigenous people primarily from the mountainous regions of China, Vietnam, Laos, and Thailand. Many Hmong also migrated to the United States and other Western countries as refugees, particularly after the Vietnam War and the Laotian Civil War in the 1970s.

Key Indicators:

Surnames: Common Hmong surnames like Vang, Lee, Xiong, Vue, Moua, Lao, and Cheng are prominent in the list. These are among the 18 principal Hmong clans (xeem) recognized in Hmong culture.

Naming Structure: Hmong names often follow a pattern where the clan surname comes first, followed by one or two given names (e.g., Tou Pao Lee, Xiong Pao Vang). This structure is typical in Hmong naming conventions.

Cultural Context: The Hmong are known for their distinct language, culture, and history, with many living in Laos before migrating. Names like Thong Lao and Vang Neng Lao suggest a connection to Laos, as “Lao” can indicate geographic or ethnic ties to the region.

Specific Names:

Yee Shae: While less common, “Yee” is a known Hmong surname, and “Shae” could be a given name or an anglicized form.

Hue Nai Cheng: “Cheng” is a Hmong surname, and the structure resembles Hmong naming patterns, though “Hue Nai” may reflect a unique given name or regional variation.

Pok Vue: “Vue” is a common Hmong surname, and “Pok” is a plausible given name in Hmong naming traditions.

National Context:

The Hmong are not tied to a single nation but are an ethnic group spread across multiple countries. The names are strongly associated with Laos, where many Hmong lived before migrating, and the United States, where a significant Hmong diaspora resides, particularly in states like Minnesota, Wisconsin, and California.

Some names, like Thong Lao, may also suggest ties to Laotian culture more broadly, as “Thong” is a common given name in Laos, and “Lao” could indicate the Lao ethnic group or a geographic reference. However, the overall list aligns more closely with Hmong naming conventions than with ethnic Lao names.

A post on X noted that names like “Lee” and “Shae” in this context are Laotian rather than Thai, which supports the connection to Laos, though it does not distinguish between Hmong and ethnic Lao. Given the prevalence of Hmong surnames, the Hmong ethnic group is the more likely origin.

Conclusion:

These names most likely originate from the Hmong ethnic group, with strong ties to Laos and the Hmong diaspora in the United States. While some names could suggest broader Laotian influence, the prevalence of Hmong clan surnames (Vang, Lee, Xiong, Vue, Moua, etc.) points to Hmong cultural heritage.

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Hmong migration history

Hmong cultural traditions

Happy go lucky

Gran Torino

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Edit: this is the vid I was looking for:

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Barb Meier

Thanks for the videos Happy!

Rosa

There was a big influx of Vietnamese 20-30 years ago. Many Hmong.

Barb Meier

I think my former boss came here in the 70s when the war ended. I have read that the asian gangs are some of the most violent, but I am not well informed about them or the Hmong.

cthulhu

California got a massive influx around 1977-1979 (fall of Saigon was April 30, 1975).

TheseTruths

Illuminatibot:

My favorite part of being a “conspiracy theorist” is not having myocarditis.

kalbokalbs

Along with not having a myriad of Jab induced injuries

TradeBait2

👍 😂

TheseTruths

unusual_whales:

BREAKING: Marjorie Taylor Greene has introduced the No Tax on Home Sales Act to eliminate the federal capital gains tax on home sales.

cthulhu

Considering that the main part of “gain” on capital gains is inflation…..

Gail Combs

AMEN!

We already PAID the banksters a huge chunk in interest. ENOUGH ALREADY!

Gudthots

More please.
Of course, this is for individuals selling there primary residence, right?

TheseTruths

I’m guessing you’re correct, but I haven’t seen the text of what she is proposing.

TheseTruths

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Happy go lucky

But…muh virtues

TheseTruths

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114831435031070955

It is very important that all Republicans adhere to my Recissions Bill and, in particular, DEFUND THE CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING (PBS and NPR), which is worse than CNN & MSDNC put together. Any Republican that votes to allow this monstrosity to continue broadcasting will not have my support or Endorsement. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

Gudthots

Thank you for your attention to this matter!

😂

Wolf Moon

The awesomeness of Trump never ends!

K1tt7-fzn

CBP Commissioner Rodney Scott
@CBPCommissioner
2h
Here’s some breaking news: 10 juveniles were found at this marijuana facility – all illegal aliens, 8 of them unaccompanied. It’s now under investigation for child labor violations.  

This is Newsom’s California.

Hunter Eagleman™
@Hunter_Eagleman
3h
BREAKING:  🚨  Children are allowed to work marijauna fields at below minimum wages in CA under @GavinNewsom.

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cthulhu

That’s got to be really conducive to their mental development, besides everything else.

scott467

“Children, Protesters Running From Tear Gas During Immigration Raid”

______________

Those are some big protesters.

I predict they are not running very fast

Or very far… 😂

Gudthots

Video.
This is insurrection.

Gail Combs

Think what I said about Epstein and Chaos.

The left wing Useful Idiots are already Anti-Cop & Anti-Israeli. If that list is disclosed AND the probable Link to MOSSAD, (It does not have to be real, just published by the Fake News) I am very much afraid of really violent chaos against politicians, CEOs, police, synagogues, Pro-Israel churches and perhaps even the US military.

Also do not forget the agitation about cuts in SS, medicare, medicaid and welfare bennies.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

What I am seeing is the Cabal is gearing up for an all out war for control of the USA. They are going to use every weapon at their disposal and they have A LOT!

Wolf Moon

Yup.

Things are heating up.

TheseTruths

They have escalated from burning things and throwing things at law enforcement to using the undisputed deadly force of firearms. It will probably only expand from there.

Firefly

  :wpds_whew: 

TheseTruths

Regarding Biden’s doctor’s status since he took the Fifth:

https://jonathanturley.org/2025/07/10/bidens-doctor-take-a-fifth-and-call-me-in-the-morning-with-immunity/#more-233693

Under the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA), subpoenas are regularly used to obtain otherwise protected medical information. The law specifically allows for disclosures in criminal or fraud investigations.

Moreover, many questions would not trip such wires, including the question that he was asked about whether anyone asked him to falsify medical records.

Congress has a compelling basis for demanding disclosure. However, the question is time. With the approaching midterm elections, the runway is getting shorter for the Oversight Committee. If the Democrats retake the House, these investigations will be halted, as Democratic members have pledged to resume impeachment investigations targeting President Trump.

The House Oversight Committee could grant Dr. O’Connor immunity and compel his testimony. He would then have to either secure a court order of protection or face a contempt of Congress charge for refusing to testify. If he elected to testify, he would still be subject to potential charges for any false statements made to investigators or committee members.

There is sufficient time to compel such testimony, but the Committee will have to move with some dispatch if it wants to hear more from the doctor.

Gail Combs

Another reason for the DemonRats to gin up the Epstein story. They really hit pay dirt with that.

TheseTruths

DHS’s Tricia McLaughlin: ‘We Have Arrested Almost 600 Known or Suspected Terrorists’

Officials have arrested “almost 600 known or suspected terrorists” in the U.S. interior, Department of Homeland Security Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin announced this week.

“Keep in mind… we have arrested almost 600 known or suspected terrorists within the United States — 2,700 members of Tren de Aragua, a vicious gang that kills rapes and maims Americans for sport,” she said during an appearance on Fox News.

“That is who these politicians are protecting. And unfortunately, because they won’t let us in these jails to lodge detainers and eventually deport these depraved individuals, we’re going to have to go out in the streets and really flood the zone to get these criminals off of our streets, and it makes it a lot less safe for these communities,” she added.

This update comes as immigration enforcement officials continue to detain criminal illegal aliens all across the country. DHS has noted time and time again that the vast majority of those they are arresting have prior convictions or pending charges.

From the arrests in Miami to Los Angeles, the criminal histories of these illegal immigrants include forcible rape, sexual assault, sexual battery, willful cruelty to a child, domestic violence, second degree murder, assault with intent to commit rape, distribution of cocaine and heroin, child molestation, homicide, and more.

“Seventy percent of ICE arrests are of criminal illegal aliens with convictions or pending charges,” DHS made clear.

“Additionally, many illegal aliens categorized as ‘non-criminals’ are actually terrorists, human rights abusers, gang members and more — they just don’t have a rap sheet in the U.S. This deceptive ‘non-criminal’ categorization is devoid of reality and misleads the American public,” it added.

TheseTruths

ICE: MS-13 Kingpin on El Salvador’s ‘Top 100 Most Wanted’ List Found Hiding in Nebraska

An illegal alien who is also a member of the violent MS-13 gang was arrested on Wednesday while hiding out in Omaha, Nebraska, the news coming as President Donald Trump’s administration has been working to find and deport such individuals.

In a press release, the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) said its Homeland Security Investigations nabbed the man who is a high-ranking member, or kingpin, of the gang and is also on El Salvador’s list of top 100 most wanted fugitives.

“The Salvadoran national is a criminal alien wanted in El Salvador for the aggravated homicide of five victims; attempted aggravated homicide; deprivation of liberty; and terrorist organization affiliation,” the agency said but did not identify the individual by name.

Officials also arrested another illegal with him whom they said was an MS-13 associate. The pair were apparently living together.

“His associate, Rene Saul Escobar Ochoa, 30, is a criminal alien, known MS-13 gang member and foreign terrorist also wanted in El Salvador. Escobar Ochoa is accused of giving orders to fellow gang members to commit a variety of crimes, including multiple homicides, extortion, imprisonment and drug trafficking,” the news release detailed, saying they posed a severe threat to the safety of the Omaha community.

In a statement, HSI Kansas City Special Agent in Charge Mark Zito, whose office oversees Omaha, said, “These illegal aliens didn’t just sneak into our country; they brought with them a legacy of violence, terror and death. They thought they could hide in America’s heartland, but they were sadly mistaken. Not on our watch.”

In Indiana this week, ICE arrested a Honduran national who is an MS-13 member and in the country illegally, Breitbart News reported. The outlet identified the man as 30-year-old Jonny Handy Martinez-Barillas.

He was “picked up in Clay County, Indiana, and was allowed to roam the country after police in Maryland freed him from prison without obeying an ICE detainer in 2023. The illegal alien had been charged with first-degree murder and firearm possession in Maryland,” the outlet said…

President Trump’s administration has labeled MS-13 and the Tren de Aragua gang as designated terrorist organizations.

Gudthots

I wonder what was going on in Nebraska that drew this level of criminal to be in place there?

Aubergine

As I can attest from my childhood, a cornfield is a really good place to hide.

pgroup2

And you don’t even have to look like a corn plant …

Gudthots

Ever see the movie, Second Hand Lions?

Aubergine

More than once! It is one of my very favorites.

Gudthots

You never know when a lion in a cornfield might just be the ticket!

TheseTruths

My guess is that it’s not a likely place to look for terrorists, but I don’t know.

Gail Combs

Actually it is.

From KMAG 20250115 FF, Pedos & Satan

Summary

➡ This text tells the story of Ted Gunderson, a former FBI official who exposed a child abuse ring involving powerful figures in America. Despite facing threats and obstacles, Gunderson revealed a network of child trafficking that extended beyond Nebraska and involved high-ranking officials. His investigations echo in recent scandals involving Jeffrey Epstein and P. Diddy, showing a pattern of powerful elites exploiting their influence to commit heinous acts and avoid accountability. Gunderson’s courage reminds us that truth, no matter how deeply buried, will always surface.

pgroup2

Speaking of child abuse in farm country:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Cut

TheseTruths

DHS Memo Requires ICE Agents to Stop Carrying Certain Sig Sauer Service Weapons, Switch to Glock

A memo from Department of Homeland Security Deputy Director Madison D. Sheahan directs Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Authorized Officers to shift from certain Sig Sauer P320 handguns to Glock.

The memo, dated July 9, 2025, and obtained by Breitbart News, says ICE Authorized Officers “will no longer be authorized to carry all models of the SIG Sauer P320 pistols.”

The memo “also directs the Office of Firearms and Tactical Programs to purchase, as soon as practical, replacement duty handguns for currently affected ICE Authorized Officers, including those scheduled to be issued in the near term, and to provide a proposed plan within 10 calendar days to, among other items, supply an agency-issued Glock 19 MOS pistol and related equipment, to include a micro red dot sight, weapon mounted light, duty holster, and concealed carry holster, to all ICE Authorized Officers moving forward.”

https://stateline.org/2025/03/10/more-law-enforcement-agencies-reconsider-use-of-popular-sig-sauer-p320-handgun/

More than 100 people have reported unintentional discharges and 80 injuries since 2016.

kalbokalbs

Perhaps of interest.

IIRC, Glock and Sig were the finalist for DoD to select adopt across the services.

The Department of Defense (DoD) has adopted the Sig Sauer M17 and M18 pistols as the standard-issue sidearms for the U.S. military. The M17 and M18 are part of the Sig Sauer P320 series and were selected as the result of the Modular Handgun System (MHS) competition.

^^^ Brave search.

cthulhu

Back when I was shopping, I rented a bunch of handguns at the local range and tried them out. In the end, I favored CZ and Kimber….which were both, oddly enough, refinements of John Moses Browning’s 1911.

I did not like Glocks, and I found Sigs unmemorable. But I could bring the CZ and Kimber pistols on target using iron sights more rapidly than any others.

scott467

Not really body language analysis today:
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scott467

Benny shows previously documented evidence which is being held in SDNY as Ghislane Maxwell’s appeal goes on for decades.
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scott467

Cued to the segment, about 2-3 minutes worth. The younger MAGA base is more angry about the Epstein debacle than the older MAGA supporters:
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Aubergine

I can attest to the fact that the younger generation feels this way. I know them. They do believe the government has screwed them in every regard for their whole lives.

My son has a piece of art he loves. It is a print depicting a bank on fire. It represents what happened in 2008. These kids grew up through the bank bailout debacle. They remember their parents struggles, losing homes and savings. It deeply affected them. They don’t trust the government to care for them at all.

Gudthots

Thank God for people who are still on the ground fighting.
“A free people counts the vote by hand.”

Lori Gallagher
@Lorionafarm
Jul 4
July 4, 2025, 249 years later:

Signs your Republic is suffering from corporate capture of your political power through undue influence, bribery, tumult, and/or improper practice:

1. No citizen, registered voter, or tax payer, has standing to bring an electronic election case before a Judge to challenge the corporate electronic voting systems that took over Constitutional elections by the people.
No standing or position to have a petition heard or evidence examined even when those corporate systems are generating unknowable, unrecoverable, election results that are strapping billions in property tax bonds on your backs. (you can’t find anyone voting for higher property taxes)

2. You finally get the elusive and expensive standing by putting your name on ballot and running for office, after suffering years of slander, libel, and defamation and political vulnerability but then get sanctioned $20,000 for “poking the bear” and threatened to lose your family farm and be sanctioned more if try to appeal to higher court.

3. Your County adopts a new form of government and then say they have no authority to unadopt it nor remedy these corporate election systems destabilizing and destroying your Republican form of local self government.

4. Your electronically elected representatives acknowledge there is “a bear” but afraid to publically mention the racket elections by corporations are in fear of “the bear” glitching them out of power.

5. Your political parties of election officials, you know those people that presided over the hand-counting of your ballots in your County election precincts for over 100 years, are mostly gone and the ones left are ordered to protect and promote confidence in corporate elections and results even when no one with a brain could be confident.

6. Your Political Party precinct chairs have turned into door knockers to legitimize the corporate electronically elected that you can’t find anyone supporting or electing in the primary.

Texas Constitution Article 6 Sec. 4:

(c) The privilege of free suffrage shall be protected by laws regulating elections and prohibiting under adequate penalties all undue influence in elections from power, bribery, tumult, or other improper practice.

Gail Combs

“…No citizen, registered voter, or tax payer, has standing to bring an electronic election case before a Judge ….”

THAT FROSTS MY BUTT!

Of Course I have standing! Election determines the laws I must follow and the taxes I must pay. If the election puts a grifter in place that steals tax payer money, SOME OF THAT MONEY WAS MINE!

scott467

In their OWN words. A timeline, in video tape:
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para59r

TheseTruths

At least it is being recognized that there could be major factors in this case besides handing the public a list of names.

Gail Combs

The fact that memo was handed to AXIOS just as Bibi was coming to Washington to convince Trump to allow the extermination removal of all those in Gaza (INCLUDING THE ORTHODOX CATHOLICS) has my suspicious cat screaming.

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Gudthots

May God’s grace, protection and strength be granted each and every person fighting for clean elections.

Leah Hoopes
@hoopes_leah
Jul 7
🚨 Bombshell Filing in Delaware County Election Case 🚨
A major legal filing has just been submitted in Delaware County, PA, exposing an unprecedented pattern of retaliation, misuse of public funds, and coordinated legal attacks against whistleblower Leah Hoopes.
Key Highlights:
County officials and outside counsel are accused of using taxpayer money to fund personal vendettas—including lawsuits and legal maneuvers designed to silence and punish election integrity advocates.
New evidence from internal billing records and emails reveals direct coordination between County leadership, private attorneys, and outside law firms to suppress public records, intimidate critics, and time lawsuits for maximum impact.
Court filings detail violations of state and federal law, including potential criminal exposure for conspiracy, official oppression, and deprivation of civil rights.
The filing calls for all orders in the case to be vacated as void, for the case to be dismissed for lack of subject matter jurisdiction, and for a criminal referral to the Pennsylvania Attorney General and U.S. Department of Justice.
Why This Matters:
This case could set a national precedent for holding government officials accountable when they weaponize public resources against private citizens.
The evidence shows a systematic effort to chill protected speech and block transparency—with implications for every American who values open government and the rule of law.
What’s Next:
The Court is being asked to strike all void orders and dismiss the case.
The record—including all exhibits and billing documents—has been requested for referral to state and federal authorities for criminal investigation.
Stay tuned for more updates as this story develops. Transparency and accountability are on the line in Delaware County.
#Delco #ElectionIntegrity #Whistleblower #CivilRights #LegalNews #Accountability

t.me/thedelcopatriot/6782 you can read filing here

TheseTruths

Amen to that. This is good news.

Gail Combs

This case could set a national precedent for holding government officials accountable when they weaponize public resources against private citizens. ==> TINA PETERS!!!

Gudthots

I appreciate the vigilant fox summarizing video interviews. 😊

The Vigilant Fox 🦊
@VigilantFox
8h
The dam is breaking.

NYC mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani’s extremist views and skeletons from his past are now LEAPING out of the closet.

Victor Davis Hanson drops three of the most disturbing ones that have been recently uncovered.

Then he delivered this stunning prediction:

“I guarantee you more will come out every day because he’s a pampered, privileged, angry, young socialist-communist.”

🧵 THREAD

(alternate thread link: https://nitter.poast.org/VigilantFox/status/1943442368205566451)

K1tt7-fzn
K1tt7-fzn

H/T Sylvia

BREAKING: Pam Bondi Ordered Prosecution of Dr. Kirk Moore After Refusing to Dismiss Case 
Salt Lake City, UT – Attorney General Pam Bondi, whose credibility is under fire after the Department of Justice concluded Jeffrey Epstein killed himself and had no clients, has now been revealed to have ordered the Acting-U.S. Attorney for the District of Utah, Felice John Viti, to carry on the Biden-era prosecution of Dr. Kirk Moore, who saved thousands of lives during the pandemic by choosing to not vaccinate his patients, and for it, now faces 35 years in federal prison.

scott467

Pam is really rollin’ 😂

Not sure how choosing not to vaccinate patients is prosecutable, it’s the patient’s decision, not his.

GA/FL

He provided false documents stating patients had received vaccines when they had not – to help them save their jobs.

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pgroup2

Stupidity is a crime nowadays?

singingsoul1

Agree

Wolf Moon

And he saved lives, too!

Happy go lucky

He’s a HERO then 💕

Happy go lucky

I asked my doctor to write that I couldn’t take it due to ingredients (aborted fetal) and he was furious!!!

Him: “That’s fraud” and “That’s not even true about aborted fetal”

Me: Is fraud worse than murder by vaccine?

Him: “Use religion as your excuse”

singingsoul1

She is a problem no world smarts.

singingsoul1

Bondi the wolf in sheep clothing in the Trump administration. She stinks to high heaven.
She needs to be cut loos for to save Trump’s administration.

Wolf Moon

I’m taking an odd position on this. I think she’s setting up the “Scopes Monkey Trial” of the COVID vaccines!

singingsoul1

Hope you are right and I am wrong 😁😉

Wolf Moon

Even if it’s just “useful blowback from her timidity”, it’s gonna be a win for us!

Wolf Moon

WE can make it correct. We simply have to follow this case and make the guy a HERO.

Aubergine

Perhaps we can.

But I’m not sure they are really listening to us anymore.

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Wolf Moon

Go back to Zimmerman. WE won that one – not either side of the divided government.

I don’t want Daddy Trump to fix this one. I want WE THE PEOPLE to break the nose of Fake Science in public, and have them staring back at America in horror, knowing we’re ready to kick their asses if they don’t run.

If this DOJ simply doesn’t SCREW US in Garland-Monaco style from the top, then saving people from Bidenoid mandates will win, and the vax pushers will look like murderers.

All Trump and Co. have to do is NOTHING. Let us fight the vaxtards in court.

Wolf Moon

Dang! Pfizer is spying on us! They got their friend Pam to dismiss the case!

https://thelibertydaily.com/dr-kirk-moores-case-rumored-be-getting-dismissed/

Aubergine

She’s not that smart. It could be an accident, but she’s really not. I have come to realize that she is a midwit.

Aubergine

I agree with you.

Wolf Moon

This is a great fight! More popcorn!!!

I’m torn on whether the doctor should have accepted the misdemeanor deal. He knowingly engaged in non-violent civil disobedience, for which one MUST be willing to accept punishment, and the 1 year sentence was, frankly, an excellent deal for forgery. It’s significant enough to be a badge of honor, but not stupid crazy like what they are doing to Tina Peters. I might have taken the deal and THEN a pardon by Trump!

I think the guy is a hero for what he did.

The question in my mind – does Bondi actually want this to go to trial for some reason?

Remember – Zimmerman was one of the most right-activating trials in history. It was the beginning of intellectual resistance to Obama AND the fake news.

This trial could launch the fall of the COVID vaccines if it’s handled right by us!!!

TheseTruths

The question in my mind – does Bondi actually want this to go to trial for some reason?

See my comment. I actually did a little research.

Wolf Moon

OK, thanks! That helps me make sense of something. I was getting the distinct impression that Bondi was letting the trial go ahead, but was not fully engaged for the win. The journalist’s question that triggered the prosecutor makes me think they’re seeing the same thing – that Bondi is not truly backing it, but is on paper.

This is a TACTIC much like the limited hangout – a kind of limited support to let something “fail desirably”, rather than support it to an expensive and undesired win.

The tactic appears lazy, but it’s like letting kids suffer natural consequences as a stronger teacher than “helicopter mom”.

TheseTruths

That was my impression too.

TheseTruths

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ut/pr/utah-doctor-and-co-defendants-charged-running-covid-19-vaccine-scheme-defraud-government

U.S. Attorney’s Office, District of Utah

Salt Lake City, Utah – A federal grand jury in Salt Lake City, Utah returned an indictment on January 11, 2023 charging a Utah plastic surgeon, his medical corporation, and three co-defendants, including his neighbor, with conspiracy to defraud the United States by issuing fake CDC COVID-19 vaccination record cards to fraudulent vaccine card seekers.

According to court documents, Dr. Michael Kirk Moore Jr., 58, of Salt Lake County, Utah and his co-defendants, listed below including his neighbor, ran a scheme out of Plastic Surgery Institute of Utah Inc. to defraud the United States and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). The defendants allegedly destroyed at least $28,028.50 worth of government-provided COVID-19 vaccines, and distributed at least 1,937 doses’ worth of fraudulently completed vaccination record cards to others in exchange for either direct cash payments or required “donations” to a specified charitable organization, without administering a COVID-19 vaccine to the card recipient. As charged in court documents, defendants also administered saline shots to minors – at the request of their parents – so children would think they were receiving a COVID-19 vaccine…

Plastic Surgery Institute of Utah, Inc., Michael Kirk Moore Jr., Kari Dee Burgoyne, 52, Kristin Jackson Andersen, 59, and Sandra Flores, 31, are charged with conspiracy to defraud the United States; conspiracy to convert, sell, convey, and dispose of government property; and conversion, sale, conveyance, and disposal of government property and aiding and abetting.

Whatever one thinks about the doctor’s actions, Bondi is being consistent in applying the law, which is exactly what this DOJ has said it would do. In doing so and by having Dr. Moore go to trial, she is facilitating a lot of negative publicity for the vax and negative facts to come out about it. There could be a good chance this doctor will be acquitted, with the bonus of the vax being vilified.

From the X post (emphasis mine):

In his role, Mr. Viti [Acting-U.S. Attorney for the District of Utah] not only attempted to bolster the embarrassingly vacant turnout of support for the government’s case…

And so it came to be, that the entire pool of representatives for the U.S. Government in Utah, were given front row seats to the “opening of the door” of a brutally revealing and ongoing cross examination of Chris Duggar, the CDC’s top official who oversaw COVID-19 vaccine deployment with the infamous Operation Warp Speed.

Other than his statement, that the vaccines saved lives and were safe and effective, which will now be challenged robustly in open court, Duggar arrogantly revealed new details about Pfizer’s direct role in delivering shots, including satellite tracking packs, and his perspective of seeing the roughly 25% of unvaccinated Americans as a literal “enemy” of the state.

The CDC guy called unvaxed Americans enemies of the state. That’s going to go over well. 🙄

Asked outside the courtroom about the Pfizer Phase 3 trial study results recently quoted by HHS Secretary RFK Jr., that there was a 23% higher death rate from all causes compared to the placebo group, like those that received saline injections from Dr. Moore, Duggar dramatically slumped his head and shoulders and told this reporter: “I’m so glad that now that I’m retired I don’t have to listen to anything that RFK is saying.” Duggar also said the deaths from the shots were “debatable” and purely from co-morbidities.

This is almost cartoon-like villainy. You couldn’t orchestrate a more damning show for the vax.

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Wolf Moon

LMAO!!!

Oh, my! 😂

Gail Combs

Another point is the Dr can ONLY be tried once. Better under a Trump DOJ.

Wolf Moon

Looks like it may be over. The VAX MURDERERS and their puppets, the FAKE NEWS, know when to fold!

https://thelibertydaily.com/dr-kirk-moores-case-rumored-be-getting-dismissed/

K1tt7-fzn

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pgroup2

I have no words …

 😮 

Wolf Moon

LMAO!!!

Firefly

  :wpds_lol:   :wpds_lol:   :wpds_lol: 

GA/FL

Larry Schweikart and others on the Epstein issue:

7/7/25 
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1942053106390614045.html

1)C3@C_3C_3 – “So what was on Pam’s desk? Weird.”
2) I think they found Ft. Knox of human trafficking. 
3) Beginning in Feb., we saw a very sharp uptick in human trafficking busts—50, 80 people at a time, dozens of kids rescued. This has continued to present. In my substack I presented a whole list:
4) I do not believe in coincidences. I think these busts were ALL based on info derived from the Epstein Files. I think they have multiple, large investigations and busts in the works. 
5) Releasing anything might provide a tip-off, hence, they’re gonna say, “Naw, didn’t find nuthin.”
6) I think they view the ongoing success in busting these rings as far more important than making stuff public just to show good will toward MAGA. 
7) They think the harms from not releasing are far less than the gains they will get by continuing to use them as a source.’
— 
7/8/25 

Larry Schweikart @LarrySchwe94560
“Make it 10 pedo/sex trafficking rings since Feb. Big ones.”
Pro America Politics@Pro__Trading
The FBI just recently busted and arrested two massive sex trafficking rings. It was all over the news.”
— 
7/8/25

The FBI has opened 250 INVESTIGATIONS into the “764” child predator networks. But because it’s not the network that you fixated on and fantasized about you act like it’s not happening and this isn’t important work. I’m disappointed with the outcome of the Epstein case, but not to the point of being delusional about the rest of the work being done to combat child exploitation.

7/9/25

Ryan is 100% correct, and because the leads are almost certainly coming from witness interviews related to Epstein, they aren’t making that info public. Like Batman, in “Dark Knight,” they will make the public think they are the bad guys here in order to do the job.

I’m with Larry Schweikart on all this. 

And if he’s right – the DOJ and President Trump can’t/won’t talk about it – and they should not even say the words, ‘ongoing investigation,’ but there sure is a lot of action.

REMEMBER THIS – President Trump is a fierce protector of our country and citizens.

He has been the same kind of protector as a father, grandfather. 

President Trump, and our fierce warrior First Lady Melania, love children. They are not going to allow godless leftist pedos to prey upon, groom, mutilate, destroy our nation’s children! 

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kalbokalbs

GA/FL, Thank you for brining this.

“…DOJ and President Trump can’t/won’t talk about it – and they should not even say the words, ‘ongoing investigation,’ but there sure is a lot of action.

REMEMBER THIS – President Trump is a fierce protector of our country and citizens as President.

He has been the same kind of protector as a father, grandfather. 

President Trump and our fierce warrior First Lady Melania love children. They are not going to allow godless leftist pedos to prey upon, groom, mutilate, destroy our nation’s children! “

D
U
H.

Gail Combs

I noticed the busts too but when I tried to do a search I only came up with Biden era busts.😏

GA/FL

OH NO!!! – I HATE fake news from any side – especially ‘our’ side! I am too naive and need to check sources before posting.

Wolf Moon

Why doubt yourself because somebody else can’t do a search?

You posted good info. It’s all over the web, from credible sources. Here’s one.

https://www.fox13news.com/news/fbi-hundreds-open-investigations-linked-online-exploitation-network-targeting-kids-vulnerable-people

Also, I see this network as “seed planters” for young victims like the Epstein girls. Given the Euro-American nature of the perps and the victims, it looks to me like there is a deep connection, likely Satanic.

These victims are future Ray Chandlers.

GA/FL

Thanks, Wolf Moon – I spent less than an hour searching 2025 arrests – and found PLENTY and just posted the results above. I don’t know why Gail could not find them.

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Gail Combs

Not enough caffeine…. I also only spent a few minutes.

GA/FL

I found and posted LOTS of recent arrests.

Gail Combs

THANK YOU!!

GA/FL

SPENT A LITTLE WHILE LOOKING UP 2025 CHILD TRAFFICKING ARRESTS.
Disabled links (I hope)

2025

1/22/25 – Rowan County , NC – https://www.wcnc(DOT)com/article/news/crime/rowan-county-nc-trafficking-arrests-1-22-2025/275-524e60c1-4b94-47a9-9cdf-f4b3f21f1cb5

1/25/25 – Huntsville, AL – https://www.waff(DOT)com/2025/01/25/9-arrested-operation-targeting-online-child-predators-huntsville-police-say/

2/4/25 – 177 -Los Angeles, CA – human trafficking victims rescued, 547 suspects arrested in California for various charges – https://www.foxla(DOT)com/news/human-trafficking-california-victims-rescued-547-suspects-arrested

2/6/25 – Orlando, FL – ‘Operation HEARTBREAKER:’ Nearly 30 arrested in massive Orlando sex stingChild sex sting and prostitution operation kicked off on Feb. 6 https://www.clickorlando(DOT)com/news/local/2025/03/07/operation-heartbreaker-nearly-30-arrested-in-massive-orlando-sex-sting/

2/20/25 – Scottsdale, AZ – More than 200 people were arrested during a 12-day operation targeting human trafficking in Scottsdale, the city’s police department announced – https://www.abc15(DOT)com/news/crime/more-than-200-people-arrested-during-12-day-operation-targeting-human-trafficking-in-scottsdale

4/28/25 – Georgia “Operation Lights Out” Targets Online Sexual Predators, Leads to 19 Arrests including Human Trafficking Charges
 https://gbi.georgia(DOT)gov/press-releases/2025-04-30/operation-lights-out-targets-online-sexual-predators-leads-19-arrests

4/7/25 – Florida – ‘Truly heinous’: 7 Florida men arrested in global child pornography ring – https://cbs12(DOT)com/news/local/truly-heinous-eight-arrested-in-global-child-pornography-ring-uthmeier-fdle-mark-glass-ring-busted-fdle-law-enforcement-florida-crime-april-7-2025

5/7/25 – Cleveland, OH – FBI Arrests 205 Alleged Child Sex Abuse Offenders in Five Day Nationwide Crackdown
https://www.fbi(DOT)gov/contact-us/field-offices/cleveland/news/fbi-arrests-205-alleged-child-sex-abuse-offenders-in-five-day-nationwide-crackdown

6/15/25 – North TX – Operation Soteria Shield, exposing widespread child exploitation in North Texas – 244 men and women charged with exploiting children for the purpose of sex trafficking or pornography – https://www.cbsnews(DOT)com/texas/news/109-children-rescued-244-arrested-operation-soteria-shield-child-exploitation-texas/

6/23/25 – Florida – 60 children rescued in Florida sex trafficking bust Operation Dragon …Florida authorities rescue 60 children in Operation Dragon Eye, a multi-agency effort targeting child sex trafficking, resulting in eight arrests on human trafficking charges. – https://www.foxnews(DOT)com/us/floridas-operation-dragon-eye-rescues-dozens-critically-missing-children-massive-sting

JUNE-JULY 2025 FBI CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN ARRESTS – A HUGE NUMBER!!!! https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/violent-crime/vcac/violent-crimes-against-children-news

GA/FL

Well – I didn’t get them disabled. Is there a trick to doing this or is it possible?

Wolf Moon

No need to disable links! I’ve changed the settings to allow more of them.

GA/FL

Thanks for your generosity!

GA/FL

Spent a little more time and found even more all around the country.

TheseTruths

Thank you for spending the time to do this research. It’s important that we know what’s going on.

TheseTruths

And if he’s right – the DOJ and President Trump can’t/won’t talk about it – and they should not even say the words, ‘ongoing investigation,’ but there sure is a lot of action.

This. And it applies across the board to other things that people demand to know about.

eilert

eilert

kalbokalbs

Another superb daily PAVACA.

Slow Guy, never a patient type. Frustrated Jabs remain allowed. Worse recommended.

That said, I am confident, under RFK Jr leadership, in time Jabs will no longer be recommended. Then, Banned…

Further, All vaccines will be fully tested for safety AND ARE both Safe AND Effective.

What keeps me content, I know, RFK Jr is doing everything he can to reign in the dangerous , corrupt “cash cow” vaccine industry. Along with unhealthy food industry.

The same perspective keeps me reigned in, knowing Trump is fighting for America across the entire spectrum of issues.

Trump has assembled the best possible team, supporting the ultimate goal.

  • America First. Which delivers, Make America Great Again.
  • MAHA is a perfect fit, with MAGA.
para59r

You should repost your Nicole Shanahan thing. I don’t think PAVACA saw it, and it’s of interest to her.

You left it here ===>>> https://www.theqtree.com/2025/07/10/dear-maga-20250710-%e2%9c%be-thank-god-%c2%b1-theistic-evolution-%e2%88%88-thursday-open-topic/#comment-1486747

Concerning Weather Modification. Biggest revelation coming out so far and deserves more focus. Betting Lee Zeldin will only give a watered down version since he’s tied into the administration but waits to see.

singingsoul1

Lee Zeldin is an honest broker and very competent. Like him a lot he will find what is wrong with cloud seeding.

para59r

Agreed, however she is taking about much more than cloud seeding. This is a full spectrum talk about Geo Engineering (minus earthquake stuff) and cloud seeding is just one small aspect of that. My fear is Lee will not be allowed or is not prepared to give us a deeper dive.

Would love to see one of our authors take a deeper dive into this. It really is bold of her to put this out. We’ve touched upon this stuff often in the past but didn’t have the receipts she is giving us now and I’m seeing all of the tell tale signs that they are trying to shove it back into the closet.

singingsoul1

My hope is Lee will rely on scientists and find the truth.

TheseTruths

My fear is Lee will not be allowed or is not prepared to give us a deeper dive.

My impression is that Zeldin will just be releasing information, not issuing a report. And I’m pretty sure he said the public will have everything the government has on this, so people can comb through and connect dots.

para59r

Maybe it’s still forth coming. Right now, not much there at all when compared to what Shanahan put forth.
https://www.epa.gov/geoengineering/about-geoengineering

para59r

Full Skinny and does anyone know who Nicole is interviewing in the “Back to People” post”

ooops.. this post says status… so it might be big, not sure until I post it.

Wolf Moon

Excellent stuff!

kalbokalbs

Thanks. Glad this is gaining traction.

It appears the geoengineering post is in the string.

Feds really need to stop AND forbid it. Prosecute violators. No exception.

Gudthots

Don’t forget, when RFKjr was asked about it, he said it wasn’t under his department, best he could tell it was under DARPA, IIRC.

para59r

Defense Department then. I think Pete H. might be clueless and or malleable in this then. Anyway, this is still a great leap forward and will take time to make this a primary issue in America’s eyes, but every weather related issue that falls back to this will do just that.

duchess01

EACH DAY WE TAKE UP THE OFFENSIVE WEAPON OF THE WORD OF GOD – THE SWORD OF THE SPIRIT – ONE VERSE OPENS THE DOOR TO THE CONTEXT OF THE CHAPTER MESSAGE

Verse of the Day for Friday, July 11, 2025

“For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.” 

Romans 10:4 (KJV)

COMMENTARY FOR ROMANS 10

“The apostle’s earnest desire for the salvation of the Jews. (1-4) The difference between the righteousness of the law, and the righteousness of faith. (5-11) The Gentiles stand on a level with the Jews, in justification and salvation. (12-17) The Jews might know this from Old Testament prophecies. (18-21)1-4 The Jews built on a false foundation, and refused to come to Christ for free salvation by faith, and numbers in every age do the same in various ways. The strictness of the law showed men their need of salvation by grace, through faith. And the ceremonies shadowed forth Christ as fulfilling the righteousness, and bearing the curse of the law. So that even under the law, all who were justified before God, obtained that blessing by faith, whereby they were made partakers of the perfect righteousness of the promised Redeemer. The law is not destroyed, nor the intention of the Lawgiver disappointed; but full satisfaction being made by the death of Christ for our breach of the law, the end is gained. That is, Christ has fulfilled the whole law, therefore whoever believeth in him, is counted just before God, as much as though he had fulfilled the whole law himself. Sinners never could go on in vain fancies of their own righteousness, if they knew the justice of God as a Governor, or his righteousness as a Saviour.”

Commentary by Matthew Henry, 1710.

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Verse of the day – July 11, 2025 | 2 Samuel 13:1-2

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Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered !!!



TradeBait2

Spot on IMO, PAVACA. Many nuggets of truth. One of my faves,

“Perhaps there are physicians among this number who would prefer to speak the truth about the COVID-19 “vaccines”, but refrain, due to concerns that they could be “disciplined”, or lose their License to Practice Medicine, by their state Medical Licensing Board.”

As a result they are criminally negligent by choice in the injuries and deaths of their patients who have been affected. If they work against the best interests of their patients when data and research has proven they should stop and at the very least pause their activities; the negligence part is removed and they are simply criminals. The federal government and elected officials have been complicit as well. “Just doing my job” does not work. The Nazi soldiers sending the Jews to gas chambers were just doing their jobs as well. The Japanese medical community cruelly experimenting on POW’s in WW II were just doing their jobs. The Fauxi led soldiers delivering injuries and deaths with COVID and jabs are no different than them.

None of that means that we should ignore successful, proven medications and treatments while seeking providers who are truly interested in the well being of their patients. Some do exist. It just means “buyer beware” and do not blindly trust anything your physician or Big Pharm says without researching it first.

kalbokalbs

Quack visit couple weeks ago. One vaccine question.

Med tech taking vitals and Q&A.

  • “Have I had the flu shot?” Me, No. Zero follow up.,

Quack. Zero questions about flu shot, Jabs…

As they click away on their scripted checklist, I’ll bet numerous vaccines are listed to offer, recommend, push…. Flu, Jab, pneumonia, shingles…

Med techs and quacks are waking up.

  • Though, they should counsel against the lunacy.

Progress is a slow slog.

duchess01

WE ARE FIGHTING A SPIRITUAL WAR OF GOOD VERSUS EVIL

PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD

Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ, Amen.

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duchess01

PLEASE PRAY FOR ABUSED, MISSING, AND TRAFFICKED CHILDREN

BE MY VOICE

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JESUS LOVES THE LITTLE CHILDREN

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CHILD NOT CHOICE

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duchess01

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St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle, be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him we humbly pray; and do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly host, by the power of God, cast into hell Satan and all the evil spirits who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls.

Amen.



duchess01

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kalbokalbs

The irony within the headline.

(Slow Guy has no interest in the article.)

Netanyahu: Israel’s ‘Never Had Such a Friend’ as Trump
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2025/07/10/netanyahu-israels-never-had-such-a-friend-as-trump/

singingsoul1

Natanyahu says these think but does not mean it. He was the first to congratulate Biden and dropped Trump in second. He is an opportunist.

para59r

Indeed and hasn’t forgotten. 👍

Happy go lucky

🥠 May you live in interesting times

duchess01

PLEASE PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER

MAPA = MAKE AMERICA PRAY AGAIN

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duchess01

BE WITH ME, JESUS

Be with me – take not – Your presence from me;
Let Your Spirit dwell – in me – let Him be;
My strength and solace – in turmoil of heart;
From me, Oh Lord – let Him never depart!

Without You, Lord – there is no breath of life;
Without You, Lord – the sorrow – it is rife;
Happiness eludes me – from my soul – it is gone;
Your peace in me – is vacant – totally withdrawn!

Hide not Your face from me – show me Your love;
Touch my heart with Your grace – sent from above;
Abandon me not – in my hour of need;
In Your great love, Lord – I am blessed indeed!

Fill me with your Spirit – right to the brim;
Let not hopelessness enter – faith be dim
Renew me – redo me – all over again;
Today – tomorrow – forever – Amen!

Infuse me – use me – for Your Glory, Lord;
Let me not forget – the truth in Your Word;
Raise me up, Lord – both steadfast and strong;
Be with me, Lord – where You only belong!

Strengthen me – Lord – oh, please hear my cry;
I don’t need to know the what, where or why;
I trust in Your judgment – Your mercy, Lord;
I trust in the truth revealed in Your Word!

I trust in Your Love poured out on the Tree;
I trust in Your Promise to always be;
Faithful and true for eyes that can see;
There for us all – who trust in Thee!

Be with me – Lord – refresh me – renew me;
This pain and discomfort – really threw me;
Jesus, come quickly – come quickly, I pray;
Let this doubt not take hold – unravel – fray!

Oh, precious, incorruptible Blood of the Lamb;
Encompass me – protect me – the sinner I am;
Enthrall me – befall me – change me within;
Blot my sin – from Thy sight – let it begin!

Wherein and where out – let the demon flee;
Far away – to the dry place – let it be;
Confined in the spaces – to do no harm;
To cause no distress – disruption – alarm!

Wash me – and cleanse me – pure white as snow;
Be near me – cheer me – wherever I go;
Lift my distress – give me some rest – I pray;
Be with me, Jesus – and love me Your Way!

D01: 07/14/2013

para59r
duchess01

PRAISE AND WORSHIP

STAY CLOSE TO JESUS – Soaking worship instrumental – Prayer, Devotional, Meditation and Relaxation



duchess01

Psalm 91. The most powerful prayer from the Bible. God’s protection, healing 

#psalm91 #psalms #prayer

Pray Everyday

https://rumble.com/v57jz8d-psalm-91.the-most-powerful-prayer-from-the-bible.-gods-protection-healing-p.html

Sleep Well with Psalms. Psalm 91, Psalm 121, Psalm 3, Psalm 4, Psalm 139.

#faith #god #psalms

prayeveryday777

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HAVE A VERY BLESSED DAY !!!  ❤️❤️❤️



kalbokalbs

Trump Says Canada Will Face A 35% Tariff on Goods
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2025/07/10/trump-canada-tariffs/

scott467

From OT:

President Trump Announces 35 Percent Baseline Tariff for Canadian Goods Not Covered Under USMCA

July 11, 2025 

SD: “President Donald Trump has announced a 35% baseline tariff rate for Canada on all imported goods not currently covered under the soon-to-expire USMCA trade agreement.

“Instead of working with the United States, Canada retaliated with its own Tariffs,” President Trump shared on Truth Social. “Starting August 1, 2025, we will charge Canada a Tariff of 35% on Canadian products sent into the United States, separate from all Sectoral Tariffs.”

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As noted by President Trump in his remarks during Prime Minister Mark Carney’s visit to the White House, Trump plans to renegotiate the USMCA and end the trilateral agreement in favor of two bilateral trade deals.

During the oval office meeting President Trump said, “as you know [USMCA] terminates fairly shortly. It gets renegotiated fairly shortly.” Then the biggest statement, “this was a transitional deal, and we’ll see what happens, we’re going to start renegotiating that”… “I don’t know if it serves a purpose anymore.” …. “And the biggest purpose it served was, we got rid of NAFTA.” 

President Trump is going to exit the trilateral USMCA in favor of two distinctly different bilateral trade agreements between the U.S and Mexico; and the U.S and Canada. The only consideration now is the timing. President Trump is 100% focused on the BIG ECONOMIC PICTURE; it’s not about the politics, it’s all about the economics.

♦ BACKGROUND – Following the 2024 presidential election, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau traveled to Mar-a-Lago and said if President Trump was to make the Canadian government face reciprocal tariffs, open the USMCA trade agreements to force reciprocity, and/or balance economic relations on non-tariff issues, then Canada would collapse upon itself economically and cease to exist. In essence, in addition to the NATO defense shortfall, Canada cannot survive as a free and independent north American nation, without receiving all the one-way benefits from the U.S. economy.

To wit, President Trump then said, if Canada cannot survive in a balanced rules environment, including putting together their own military and defenses and meeting their NATO obligations, then Canada should become the 51st U.S state. It was following this meeting that President Trump started emphasizing this point and shocking everyone in the process. However, in the emotional reaction to Trump’s statements, no-one looked at the core issues outlined by Trudeau that framed President Trump’s opinion.”

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Gail Combs

I want to make a comment on something from yesttterday.

Aubergine said yesterday:

“….What the hell is the point of “the movement” if it enables a hidden world of elite ped0s to continue their perversion? Why save the country if we have to look in the mirror every day and see a ped0-enabler? What good is America if it doesn’t stand for children and against this sick crap?

I have a moral core that does not allow for this shit. I can’t silently just “wait” to see if they are lying and are actually pursuing the perverts, or if they are lying and have no intention of doing anything else….” 

There is one sure-fire, God-approved, and foolproof way out, always:

TELL THE DAMNED TRUTH!

So let us do a WHAT IF.

The list is published and it contains:
90% of Senators, Congressmen, Governors AND TOP RANKING MILITARY. (Do not forget Obama’s purge of the military.)

The list also contains the board of Directors and top officers of ALL media, plus a large portion of defense contractors and other critical industries.

I think this is quite possible and likely probable.
….

If you release the list you should also release who is the actual blackmailer. That is the next question that needs to be answered, Right?

So it is also released that Epstein was a MOSSAD and MI6 agent. Again highly probable. LINK and LINK This is why Israel gets special treatment in terms of protection, trade and $$$. It is why as Massie said, each Congress critter has an AIPAC babysitter. It is also why NATO and the EU have been allowed to continually rape the USA ever since WWII.

On top of that, like with the failed SS Liberty gambit, 9/11 was orchestrated to get the USA into forever wars in the middle east AND to get the Patriot Act passed so the third partner, the CIA could exert even more control over the US population. (Alpha Warrior arrested and indicted as a Domestic Terrorist for example.)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

So we have the List of Pedos and the ID of the Blackmailer. WHAT IS THE RESULT?? Chaos?

I can no longer find the exact quote, But one commie group said something like, “During a time of massive chaos we walk in and SEIZE POWER.” It was probably a derivative of something MAO said.

When Chaos is a Political Strategy

Chairman Mao Tse-Tung (head of China’s communist party from 1949 until his death in 1973) famously put it this way, “Everything under heaven is in utter chaos; the situation is excellent.” The power-hungry everywhere smell blood in the water when a culture is confused and divided. And they stoke the chaos for their own gain.

The Nature of Chaos and Anarchy as Tools of Communist Subversion
Colonel Towner has said she thinks there are a lot of NATO Operation Gladio Units in the USA.

There are an estimated 5.5 million Chinese in the USA not counting the military age males smuggled in during the last 4 years.

Map shows Chinese-owned farmland next to 19 US military bases in ‘alarming’ threat to national security: experts
https://imgs.search.brave.com/uAhH-AnKrXM0-UklIZ9W72rlEi0ELlqUQtnTEeaKTDg/rs:fit:200:200:1:0/g:ce/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cu/YWxsc2lkZXMuY29t/L3NpdGVzL2RlZmF1/bHQvZmlsZXMvY2hp/bmVzZS1mYXJtbGFu/ZC1XRUIuanBn

NOTE: Robert Maxwell connection to MI6

“….Preston suggests that Maxwell’s earliest business breakthrough was funded by MI6: this involved the purchase of Springer-Verlag’s entire stock of learned scientific journals, books and articles. Very oddly, Preston chooses not to mention Maxwell’s initial business partner in this publishing venture which became his best known company, Pergamon Press. This business partner was Paul Rosbaud, an MI6 informant who had remained in Germany throughout the Third Reich and supplied Britain and America….” from Fall: The Mystery of Robert Maxwell, by John Preston – reviewed by Peter Rushton

kalbokalbs

Fundamentally.

T R U S T TRUMP.

Never, ever, has there been a better, more qualified AND HONEST President.

Trump is likely America’s best, only, last chance to survive.

  • True to the Constitution AND Spirit of our Founding Fathers. .

Trump has Earned My Loyalty. Dare I suggest, Our Loyalty.

Gail Combs

Given what is very likely to be the truth, I think we have to Trust Trump.

Unfortunately I am afraid this mess will, thanks to the Absolutists, cause a major loss of Republican Seats during the mid-term.

I do not envy Trump having to deal with the mess. I am just hoping it is not the DEATH BLOW to the USA. I am very much afraid Trump is our last shot before we end up with a world wide Totalitarian government that wants most of us dead.

singingsoul1

Bondi with her eagerness to be on TV has much to answer for and put Trump into this situation. Her ego , Kash’s and Bongino got the better of them. Limelight is poison to them.

Aubergine

I think you have absolutely nailed the problem. I don’t know why we are surprised, as the “seeking the limelight” persona was apparent before they were ever selected.

kalbokalbs

Firing Bondi accomplishes nothing.

The Epstein frenzy will pick up steam. Faux outrage at its worst.

There is Nothing that will silence, quell, the Engineered uproar.

Trump Is The Target. Bondi is simply 4AM talking points.

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singingsoul1

Blondi caused much of self inflicted wounds. by that she crated a firer storm.

Aubergine

You see what I am seeing. This is it.

Gail Combs

The Cabal has pulled out all stops to take down Trump. We MUST have a conservative MAGA Senate and House after the midterms or we will see endless impeachment hearings .

singingsoul1

The alternative to Trump is a nightmare.

TheseTruths

Trump has Earned My Loyalty. Dare I suggest, Our Loyalty.

Certainly mine.

TheseTruths

I do too!

singingsoul1

I heard not every person on the list is a pedo. They will have to work through it who and what all the relationships are . Just my thoughts. Yes they need to get the whittlers of small kids regardless who they are and the blackmailers also.

TheseTruths

I heard not every person on the list is a pedo. 

Be careful whom you listen to. We don’t know that there is one definitive list. If there is, we don’t know who is on it. And we don’t the ramifications of releasing names to the public. The consequences could cost us the midterms and even get us into war. People need to be very careful, but unfortunately I’m not seeing much of that.

kalbokalbs

Only names that should ever be released, are those indicted, will be arrested, AND tried.

Releasing names of innocents, is wrong.

  • If evidence does NOT support indicting, they remain innocent.
TheseTruths

Releasing names of innocents, is wrong. 

• If evidence does NOT support indicting, they remain innocent.

I haven’t seen anyone else recognize that. The public is out for blood, and most names that are on any list wil be considered guilty. If it’s just a contact list they might not be, but the fact that they had any dealings with Epstein at all will taint them in the eyes of the public. An “Epstein client list” will indict and convict them all in the public arena before anything else can happen.

singingsoul1

I think people talk about a black book something like a phone book. Yes one needs to be careful but what I see is the train left the station because of mishandling the situation. The conservative pod casters are out there beating the drum and not for the DOJ or FBI. I hope for the best and Trump is smeared by the left by outing pics with Epstein what a fumble. I am not sure if it is true but hear Bongino quit. because he has differences with blondi. I think much info and misinfo is rapid.

TheseTruths

The conservative pod casters are out there beating the drum and not for the DOJ or FBI.

And I’ve had it with most of them. It’s not that I disagree with everything they say, and I’m sure they are correct on some things. It’s the way they drag out news that could be reported in 5 minutes or less, to a 20-minute video, complete with outrage that is calculated to draw us into it. They make money off of that, so of course they are going to present whatever angst the public is expressing at the moment.

Some of them, like one of the ones posted here today, are pure speculation while trying to convince us otherwise.

But there are a few big names who don’t use tactics and just report the facts.

singingsoul1

They are on clickbait and reckless unless they never were on the train.

TheseTruths

Thanks for showing that there’s a much bigger picture that we might know a little about, but we can’t possibly know the depths of it or even the scope of it. Our leaders are the only ones who are privy to it, and it comes down to whether we can trust them or not. I trust that Pres. Trump will act in the best interest of America first, and of all human beings as he can.

kalbokalbs

R-Cons trashing a Patriot, over divorce.   :insane: 

Swamp supporting their cesspool. comment image

It Was All Planned?… National Republican Senatorial Campaign Releases Statement Trashing Ken Paxton Over News of Divorce – Endorse Horrible Elitist RINO Senator Cornyn
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/07/it-was-all-planned-national-republican-senatorial-campaign/

Wolf Moon

I love this comment!

Would have been better on Moody Menarchy Monday, but whatever! 😂

singingsoul1

Angela Paxton is not divorcing on biblical grounds sorry just my opinion.

kalbokalbs

Politics.

singingsoul1

Since when is divorce a crime? Marriage is a roller coaster and sometimes one party gets off. My husband and I are almost married 60 years and we were told we would not last more than two years 🙁 Either one of us wanted to proof them wrong so we each worked on ourselves realized neither is perfect and embraced each other as is. Best thing ever but not every person can look at their spouse and see their own shadow and work on one self. Not easy but well worth it. 😉
Prayers with Ken Paxton and his family .

kalbokalbs

Smile, after smile, reading your post.

Exactly.

Literally rolled my eyes over the divorce thing. Divorce happens. (Duh.)

Did laugh at, “..we were told we would not last more than two years.”

DW and I told the same thing. Family member both sides counseled us, walk away.

July 3rd, clicked 46 years, in pursuit of your ~60 years..   :cheers: 

singingsoul1

Maybe that is the best counsel we got from family ?

TradeBait2

Congrats. In pursuit of 50. Like others, unfortunately we both had to have a practice marriage first.

kalbokalbs

Thanks.

Once, twice, thrice…getting it right is what matters.

You have, with Super Star.   :cheers: 

RedLegLeader68

Hey there! The Mrs and me are at 46, too. 1979. September to be exact. BeeGees: More Than A Woman!!

kalbokalbs

Great news! Congrats.

TradeBait2

Great testimony. 👍

eilert

BREAKING: Tom Homan just WENT OFF about the foreign child labor being used at a marijuana grow facility, says that ICE has already found 10,000 missing children.

Make no mistake, Gavin Newsom allowed this to fester.

“We’re looking for over 300,000 missing children. We’ve already found 10,000.”

“This should be a non-partisan issue… we’re rescuing thousands of children.”

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TheseTruths

Unbelievable.

TradeBait2

Yet believable. The depth of evil that has taken root in our country thanks to the uniparty and globalists is mind blowing.

singingsoul1

These are American citizens taking advantage of children.

GA/FL

GOOD JOB – PRESIDENT TRUMP, DIRECTOR HOMAN!!!

THANK YOU for getting these monsters off our streets!

bakocarl

Just yesterday, the world seemed clear,
With logic sharp, and truth sincere.
The sun would rise, the stars align,
And reason held a path divine.

But now the threads of truth unwind,
A tangled maze confounds the mind.
What once was plain now twists and bends,
Where clarity began, now ends.

The facts, they dance, they shift, they sway,
No longer fixed, they drift away.
A thousand voices clash and cry,
Each claiming truth, each peddling lies.

Reports conflict, their motives veiled,
In shadows deep, their aims curtailed.
What drives the word, the deed, the plan?
No soul can know, no mind can scan.

Complexity, a ruthless king,
Engulfs the heart with everything.
Too many details flood the brain,
Too many questions, all remain.

The simple path we used to tread
Is lost in fog, with doubt widespread.
Illogic reigns, confusion calls,
And understanding swiftly falls.

A whisper here, a secret there,
Intentions cloaked in darkened air.
The world’s a storm, a churning sea,
Where certainty can never be.

Yet in this chaos, lift your gaze,
Beyond the storm, beyond the haze.
For God above, with steady hand,
Commands the tides, the sea, the land.

No lie can shake His sovereign throne,
No twisted truth can stand alone.
In Christ abide, hold fast to hope,
With faith as anchor, you will cope.

Let details fade, let conflicts cease,
In God’s great love, find perfect peace.
Look up, dear soul, to things above,
And rest in faith, secure in love.

para59r
duchess01

The last three stanzas touched my heart, Carl !!! ❤️ 🧚🏻‍♀️ ❤️

kalbokalbs

This IS where MAGA ought to focus in the short term.

RINO REBELLION: Here Are the Five GOPers Reportedly Holding Up the Trump-Backed DOGE Cuts Package That Would Defund NPR and PBS, Enough to Sink the Legislation
While Alaska Senator Lisa Murkowski’s opposition was already known, four of her other colleagues are demanding changes to the legislation before even considering lending their support.

Townhall.com revealed that while one opponent, Susan Collins of Maine, will come as no surprise to anyone, three supposedly reliable conservatives are joining forces to stymie Trump and the American people. These Senators are Jerry Moran of Kansas, Mike Rounds of South Dakota, and Dan Sullivan of Alaska.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/07/rino-rebellion-here-are-five-gopers-reportedly-holding/

Robert Baker

If you want to understand politics just watch video. All your questions will be answered.

CLASSIC SCENE:True Grit

kalbokalbs

“Little Sister” in True Grit was entertaining AND quite the “pistol’.   :wpds_grin: 

GA/FL

HORRIBLE.

GA/FL

President and First Lady heading out to Texas to visit flood victims.

bakocarl

From Grok – Conclusion:
The claim is partially true but heavily exaggerated. Dutch scientists at WBVR did develop a mutant H5N1 strain that showed mammal-to-mammal transmission and 100% mortality in ferrets under lab conditions, as reported in a 2025 study. However, there’s no evidence this strain spreads rapidly in humans or universally kills all mammals. The research was conducted to study viral evolution, not to create a bioweapon, and is part of ongoing efforts to prepare for potential pandemics. Sensationalized reports amplify the findings beyond what the science supports, and the claim’s alarming tone does not fully align with the controlled, scientific context of the study. Always approach such claims critically, especially when sourced from non-peer-reviewed outlets.

bakocarl

In reading the abstract (considering that, possibly, I’m a slow guy, too), I didn’t see that the Dutch scientists did any gain-of-function work. They isolated 3 existing strains of avian flu, 1 from a chicken and 2 others from a red fox. The strains appear to have been existing, not enhanced with any gain-of-function characteristics. So, I don’t see where Slay News came up with their “lab-created gain-of-function strain”.

Can you point that out to me?

bakocarl

I think gain-of-function means increasing the ability of the strain to do something that it doesn’t do well (like spread to humans) or be something more (like be 100% lethal to humans). In general terms gain-of-function means to genetically alter an organism to enhance its biological functions.

Wolf Moon

This team did not do any gain of function research. The red fox strain has clearly “gained function” to infect mammals – the question is when and where did that happen.

bakocarl

I really wouldn’t put it past any of those people to create a gain-of-function virus and inject it into an animal, only to “discover” that strain later and claim natural evolution.

Wolf Moon

Absolutely! None of these Faucists can be trusted.

Combine that with “Whoops – laboratory escape from Saint Dindu Nuffins Research Hospital” and “Coincidental presence of Bill Gates NGO ‘SNEECI’ (Safety Network for Epidemic Emergency Corporate Intervention), and the whole thing is a mass of self-dealing and self-interest.

Wolf Moon

I suspect that the GoF was done in another lab – possibly in the US. Judy Mikovits was adamant that making any virus “catch” in a new species is AUTOMATICALLY “gain of function” – it’s just hidden under the arsonist alibi of “we’re trying to stop the fire”, not “we’re playing with matches in a petroleum refinery.”

Wolf Moon

Excellent work. These bastards are going to kill billions of people.

kalbokalbs

Sorry Bako, Grok blather above is, in my estimation (low bar it is), baffling bullshit.

That’s the kind of crap, FauXi and his ilk blather, selling Gain of Function.

Fundamentally, Gain of Function Is Wrong to the point of Evil. IMO.

Have we not learned anything from the Covidiot crotch novel?

Billy Ghoul Gates should be locked up.

bakocarl

Gain of Function Is Wrong to the point of Evil” . . . totally agree.

TheseTruths

“Secretary of War,” just like it used to be:

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para59r

This started coming out yesterday or the day before.
Oh well, nice while it lasted.

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In other news… this clip may be a few days or weeks old. Not sure.

Well at least he’s consistent. Both are older. Months apart.

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kalbokalbs

Me to.

Guessing it was Meloni caving to immigration. She has been loudly against illegal immigration.

Though, I’m thinking Meloni, in those posts supports legal immigration. .

TheseTruths

I would need a full translation of Meloni. If there was one, i missed it.

TheseTruths

We’ll see what comes of this:

BREAKING REPORT: Bongino Took Day Off After Clash with Bondi Over Epstein Files

FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino took a day off from work after a clash with Attorney General Pam Bondi over the handling of the Epstein files.

On Sunday night a new FBI, DOJ memo obtained by Axios concluded Jeffrey Epstein did not have a client list that he used for blackmail.

The FBI earlier determined that Epstein did commit suicide in August 2019.

The DOJ-FBI also released a 10-hour video on Sunday from outside Jeffrey Epstein’s jail cell.

** The full video is posted at the DOJ website here.

The Gateway Pundit confirmed that an entire minute was cut from the DOJ video.

According to Axios, Bongino was blamed for the oversight of the missing minute.

Axios reported:

“FBI deputy director Dan Bongino took a day off from work Friday after clashing at the White House with Attorney General Pam Bondi over their handling of the Jeffrey Epstein files, four sources familiar with the conflict told Axios.

“Why it matters: The dispute erupted Wednesday amid the fallout of the administration walking back its claims about Epstein by determining the convicted sex offender didn’t have a celebrity “client list,” and that he wasn’t murdered in his New York City prison cell in 2019.

“Bongino didn’t come to work Friday, leading some insiders to believe he had quit. But administration officials say he’s still on the job, even as the internal tension over the Epstein case continues.

“Zoom in: At the center of the argument: a surveillance video from outside of Epstein’s cell that the administration released, saying it was proof no one had entered the room before he killed himself.”

Laura Loomer also reported on Bongino’s clash with Bondi.

A source separately told NewsNation that FBI Director Kash Patel and Dan Bongino would have released Epstein documents months ago, but they were unable to.

“I believe with full certainty that if Kash Patel and Dan Bongino had the power to operate separately from the DOJ, that they would have unsealed and released every single piece of evidence they could, while protecting victims, months ago,” the source close to the White House said to NewsNation.

BREAKING…

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kalbokalbs

Wagons circling to bottom blow Bondi? Hope not.

If so, Will accomplish nothing. The Engineered “crisis” will pick up steam. Dumrats will be thrilled.

Those with their panties in a wad, will still have their panties in a wad.

If Bondi is trashed, imagine the circus at the next AG hearing. The ignorance rolls on.

Trump gave the Spot On answer years ago, when referring to Jeff Sessions, quitting.

Stare Them Down. (Do Not back down.)

TheseTruths

Yes, and I’m suspicious that the details given might not be accurate. If there is a minute missing every night, then no one should be blamed. If that’s not the case and they’re blaming whoever is responsble for producing the video, I would think it would be lower level people than Bongino (although he might have been in charge). Or none of it could be true.

Wolf Moon

There may be a mismatch of security clearances here. As former SS, I would suspect that Bongino might be “in the loop” – but as a deputy, and a former media person / journalist, he may not be.

TheseTruths

Maybe so.

I think Bongino has been uncomfortable with this job from the outset. It upset his entire family situation. With his podcast he could work from home and see them a lot. He is a sensitive person who doesn’t take criticism lightly, and he has had nothing but criticism from the beginning. I will not be surprised if he resigns, for whatever reason.

kalbokalbs

Your assessment is spot on.

  • Not trash talking Bonginio.
  • Bongino isn’t made for Deputy FIB, at this point in HIS, Bongino’s life.
  • Have never thought he was comfortable in his role.

Bongino will quit, regardless of Bondi’s status.

TheseTruths

I could be wrong, but I don’t see how he could continue his podcast since everyone has been yapping at him ever since he got to Washington. It was “You said that, and now you’re saying this,” etc. He had an audience that seemed to love him, but from what I’ve seen, people turned on him like crazy.

I also doubt that he could say much, if anything, about what happened at the FIB due to confidentiality reasons and because, unlike many, he would not trash those he has been associated with. He would have little to no avenue to defend himself.

Since no one knows what is really going on with someone else, this could all be incorrect. Whatever he does, I wish him the best. If he stayed at the FIB and it was a unified team, I think that would be best for the country. If he can’t do that, who knows what will happen.

Since we haven’t heard anything else so far today, it wouldn’t surprise me if he is going to take the weekend to consider everything. (Again, total guesswork on my part.)

kalbokalbs

Agree.

Returning to his pod cast is a non starter.

Dan has integrity.

His daughter, wife and health need to be his priority.

Wolf Moon

I don’t believe 99% of the “I used to love _____, now I hate _____” posts. These are a low-fruit AI response.

TheseTruths

I agree, but I’m gauging it from the posts of real people here. One mistake and you’re out. A perception of something they don’t agree with but know nothing about, and you’re out. The public is very fickle. I think Bongino could probably win back his audience, though.

cthulhu

Although the entire Epstein kerfuffle is designed to be maximally abhorrent and cry out for a millstone party, I am reluctantly forced to agree that it will take time to address — and that means time management has to take precedence over reflexive “justice”.

That’s not to say that I won’t be very disappointed if these people skate, but we’re not even to the six month point of this administration — and the initial months have been thoroughly bollixed by swollen-headed judges.

TheseTruths

I completely agree.

holly

He was diagnosed with Hodgkin lymphoma in 2020. I would imagine his priorities changed after that.

kalbokalbs

Absolutely.

Bongino’s health and family need to be his priority.

I do, respect Bongino accepting the “call of duty” from Trump.

  • Circumstances don’t support it

Again. not trash talking Bongino.

para59r

Yesterday maybe Scott or someone else posted a vid about how the camera view was determined to be worthless. Looked like a good debunk of the camera view to me meaning the camera proved nothing being claimed.

Saying Epstein did not have a client list is just parsing words. Mossad and or the CIA maintained the list and did the black mail. Epstein just did the sting if you want to call it sting. I’m willing to bet you had people lined up to be stung because once stung it opened doors. Similar to a gang banger going out and shooting an innocent to get into the gang.

Loomer riding shot gun and Axios reporting on Bongino is more of the same as to Mossad’s involvement and Bongino appears to be a potential loose leak thus Axios and Loomer ganging up on him. Bongino might still have ethical bones in his body and they will have to be broken.

The Client List and AIPAC seem to be at the center of everything going wrong right now as Trump had to kowtow to all those ducks to get the BBB passed. Now Ms Lindsey is great again and soon to be Cornyn I suspect. The next tell might come with Trump’s upcoming talk about Russia/Ukraine on Monday. Things are getting kookie strange. Hoping this is all a phase and set up for something good, but I’m not seeing it yet. Might have to wait all the way to the midterms to know what’s happening or what’s not happening.

Wolf Moon

Yup.

kalbokalbs

Karen, apparently in Texas, melting down…

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Gail Combs

How do you know that?

There have been tons of raids and children rescued.

Wolf Moon

🍿

scott467

“How do you know that?

There have been tons of raids and children rescued.”

___________

Because they haven’t raided Martha’s Vineyard or Wall Street or K Street or Congress or Buckingham Palace yet?

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kalbokalbs

NOT One moronic Epstein Bondi question.

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para59r

Melania is looking Great!

Wolf Moon

Yes! And Trump is looking very healthy!!!

Aubergine

I like Dan Bongino, a lot. I have been worried about him since he started at the FBI, because he has seemed really uncomfortable when I’ve seen him on TV.

There is a lot out there about Dan right now, but I would consider this a credible source. It is from the White House correspondent for Semafor Magazine. They are rated High for factual reporting:

I hope Dan is able to stay, but I will totally get it if he leaves. I wouldn’t violate my integrity for ANY job.

Aubergine

Full text:

Dan Bongino is considering leaving his post at the FBI amid the Epstein docs drama, two sources familiar with the situation confirm to me. Both are speculating he might not be back, though it seems like no formal decision has been made.

He’s effectively “gone,” one person said. “Will come back if Bondi held accountable.”

duchess01

7.11.25: YOUR Immune system is under attack, Geoengineering info from EPA, Mushroom helping pets/people, Pray!

And We Know

https://rumble.com/v6w17og-7.11.25-your-immune-system-is-under-attack-geoengineering-info-from-epa-mus.html?e9s=src_v1_blp

TheseTruths

https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2025/07/11/appeals-court-throws-out-plea-deal-sept–11-attacks-khalid-sheikh-mohammed

A divided federal appeals court on Friday threw out an agreement that would have allowed accused Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to plead guilty in a deal sparing him the risk of execution for al-Qaida’s 2001 attacks.

The decision by a panel of the federal appeals court in Washington, D.C., undoes an attempt to wrap up more than two decades of military prosecution beset by legal and logistical troubles. It signals there will be no quick end to the long struggle by the U.S. military and successive administrations to bring to justice the man charged with planning one of the deadliest attacks ever on the United States…

Mohammed is accused of developing and directing the plot to crash hijacked airliners into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Another of the hijacked planes flew into a field in Pennsylvania.

TheseTruths

Statement from Chairman of the Board of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac William J. Pulte on Reports that Jerome Powell Is Considering Resigning

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
07/11/2025
Washington, D.C. – “I’m encouraged by reports that Jerome Powell is considering resigning. I think this will be the right decision for America, and the economy will boom.”

kalbokalbs

Great news. Hope Powell goes today.

Have not read one thought supporting Powell. <<< Part of the problem.

TradeBait2

He is an idgit tool of the globalists.

gil00

Id think that w the budget surplus directly dt bessent and trump out of thevred shows everyone how wrong powell is. Imagine where wed be if he hadnt been fighting….same for congress critters!

TheseTruths

BREAKING: Stephen Miller says, “there are likely hundreds of THOUSANDS of children in California who are being exploited for their labor or s*xually exploited as part of s*x trafficking.”

“This administration is liberating these children and helping reunify them with their parents back in their home country. “

“I don’t know of anybody except the governor of California who would argue that a marijuana plantation is an essential component of America’s food supply chain.”

“Everywhere you look in California, you see industrial child exploitation on a massive scale, an industrial scale.”

“It’s one of the great crimes in human history. Over 500,000 children were illegally trafficked into the country under the previous administration.”

“When we’ve gone and looked for these children, the addresses that the US government provided, in other words, the records that the government kept under Joe Biden, are all fake. Nobody ever checked if the addresses were real. Nobody ever checked if the sponsors were real. Nobody ever checked if they were really even relatives or parents or relations or safe.”

They all need to be saved. @StephenM

RedLegLeader68

“…marijuana plantation…” God knows Stephen has a way with words!

Wolf Moon

A nice compilation of what people have said in public about Epstein and investigations of him.

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1nAKEgYXQmXJL

TradeBait2

People are talking about it everywhere we go around here. Nobody is buying the bullshiz they put out. They need to deal with it .

Wolf Moon

Maybe that’s the plan. 🤔

bakocarl

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Wolf Moon

QABQQM!

holly

Joe Rogan agrees with RFK Jr. that Lyme Disease is a man-made weapon leaked from a lab.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14896973/Joe-Rogan-podcast-Lyme-disease.html

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duchess01

ICE BLOCKS Migrant Ambush… as ENTIRE ‘Cartel Run’ Farm Gets Deported

gil00

In case you missed it, the owner of the dope farms gave gruesome  10k in  campaign donations!

Federal officials announced that around 200 workers were arrested in two raids on cannabis farms in Southern California on Thursday — likely the largest single-day immigration crackdown in the state’s history.“On July 10, 2025, federal law enforcement officers executed criminal warrant operations at marijuana grow sites in Carpinteria and Camarillo,” reads a statement issued by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. “During the operation, at least 10 migrant children were rescued from potential exploitation, forced labor, and human trafficking. Federal officers also arrested approximately 200 illegal aliens from both sites in Carpinteria and Camarillo.”DHS says that during the operation, over 500 demonstrators congregated at the two Glass House Farms sites in protest of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officers taking workers and family members from the farms.

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/federal-officials-announce-200-workers-arrested-in-carpinteria-camarillo-farm-raids/

duchess01

EVENING PRAYERS

Prayer For Grace At The End Of The Day

Heavenly Father, as the day is drawing to its close I ask that Your continued love and presence be with me and with all that are Your children in Christ. Guard us through the long hours of darkness this night I pray, and keep us safe from all harm and dangers that may try to cross our threshold. 

Give us, I pray, an untroubled night of rest and quietness of heart. May we be refreshed and renewed in body, soul and spirit as we rest our weary hearts in You through the hours of the night. 

Lord, I pray that by Your great grace and mercy, You would grant us untroubled sleep so that we may rise up in the morning strong to do Your bidding. May we all rejoice for the dawn of a new day, knowing that Your mercies are new every morning. In Jesus’ name,

Amen.

Source: https://prayer.knowing-jesus.com/Evening-Prayers

Prayer Of Reflection On The Past Day

Loving Lord, as the day is coming to an end, I want to thank You for being with me in all that has taken place today. I also want to lay the whole day before You, asking that you would show me if there is anything that I have done to hurt or harm another person unknowingly, or if I have done anything that is displeasing in Your sight, or quenched the work of the Spirit in me, so that I may turn away from such things in the days that lie ahead.

Lord, I desire to do Your will in all things. I pray that You would cleanse me of any wrong thoughts or attitudes that may have surfaced in my heart today. Wash me in Your cleansing flood, I pray. 

Thank You, that You are a God who forgives our transgressions when we are willing to confess them to You, knowing that such cleansing before You immediately draws us back into sweet fellowship with Yourself. 

Give me a good night’s rest I pray, and may I rest quietly in Your loving arms in the knowledge that in Christ, I am eternally secure, due to Your amazing grace, for which I praise You. In Jesus’ name, 

Amen.

Source: https://prayer.knowing-jesus.com/Evening-Prayers

Prayer Of Thanksgiving In The Evening

Praise Your holy name Heavenly Father, for granting yet another day in my life and for being with me every step of the way. Thank You for the many blessings that You have provided and the love and fellowship that I have with the friends and family that in Your grace You have placed in my life.
 
My heart is so thankful for all the many blessings that I enjoy day by day, and today I am once again reminded that Your mercies are new every morning and Your faithfulness endures from generation to generation.
 
Thank You, that I have been brought into Your family and have been made a child of God and a citizen of heaven. Words cannot express my love and devotion to You Lord
 
I pray that You would watch over me as I rest tonight, and that You would give me a restful night’s sleep so that I may wake up in the morning refreshed in body and spirit and ready to do Your will. Guard all those that I love and may we all grow in grace and in a knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ in the days that lie ahead. This I ask in His precious name,
 
Amen.

Source: https://prayer.knowing-jesus.com/Evening-Prayers

kalbokalbs

kalbokalbs

Full video….

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Wolf Moon

Simple question, for sure, and I would like an answer, but the longer that the Dem-Pedo complex thinks that they have DOJ and FBI under their control, the more we can take them down without resistance.

The Dem-Pedo complex wants to know. Should we tell them?

bakocarl

If PTrump is in agreement with delaying the release of those files, I trust his judgment. He hasn’t given me cause to not trust him yet. Could it be that this is Trump’s first instance of him protecting a large bunch of politicians and business leaders . . . possibly. But the fact this is a case of sexual exploitation of minors, I don’t think Trump would let it go.

duchess01

X22 REPORT NOTIFICATION. – 07/11/2025

Friday, July 11 report will be released on Saturday, July 12

TheseTruths

BREAKING: US Treasury SHOCKINGLY runs a SURPLUS in June 2025, per CNBC

+$27 BILLION, following -$316B in May…

…thanks to TARIFFS.

APOLOGIZE TO SCOTT BESSENT and PRESIDENT TRUMP

“Increasing tariff collections are helping shore up the government finances.”

gil00

Wonderful. Great job!

K1tt7-fzn

TheseTruths

I hope Trump sues her for all she’s worth.

K1tt7-fzn

Cynical Publius
@CynicalPublius
4m
What percentage of the Bondi vs. Bongino controversy is stoked by people who actually care about the Trump Administration doing its job and what percentage is social media and podcast enragement farmers doing rage bait for clicks?

I say 20%/80%
Jul 11, 2025 · 9:52 PM UTC

Cynical Publius
@CynicalPublius
4m
As for me, I don’t pretend to know what is going on behind the scenes, I just know Bondi screwed up really bad with the optics.

K1tt7-fzn

Leslie McAdoo Gordon https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/15.1.0/svg/1f1fa-1f1f8.svg
@McAdooGordon
2h
The public already knows what “really happened” in the top 3 scandals of today:

1. Epstein had a lot of wealthy friends for whom he acted as a pimp.

2. Comey, Brennan, & many others misused their positions to illegally spy on Trump & others & improperly prosecute people.

3. Biden’s people & Kamala Harris & her people & the media covered up that Biden was in cognitive free-fall in order to hold on to power. This also resulted in the Afghanistan withdrawal debacle, among other things.

We know these are what really happened because enough facts are publicly available already, we saw quite a bit of it with our own eyes, & we have working brains.

We don’t need the government to “officially” tell us these things. We already know them.

And more and more people in the middle are coming to understand that that is what actually happened. (The Left will not admit any of these realities until about 40 years from now, just like they now admit that Bill was a dog.)

But the federal government is not some Uber-umpire giving out definitive calls as to what happened. Especially when the time for criminal prosecutions has lapsed. Even in most past “scandals,” few people ever actually went to jail.

Stop looking to the feds to validate the reality that you already know & that time is in the process of confirming. You aren’t going to get it. That’s not how it works anyway. Never has been. You’re wanting something that is an illusion and never existed anyway.

And if you’re looking for “accountability” for any of that stuff from the feds, you’re not going to get that either, esp if what you really mean is punishment. 

The only accountability that comes is disclosure, exposure, & condemnation by the populous. That’s all it’s ever been. There’s no ruling from the Almighty in this lifetime or some national school principal or judge-like figure who announces who the guilty ones officially are & how they will be punished. Life just isn’t like that.

Accept the reality you already know to be true. Stop giving the federal govt so much power to validate truth.
Jul 11, 2025 · 7:13 PM UTC

kalbokalbs

Accept the reality you already know to be true.

Stop giving the federal govt so much power to validate truth.

Wolf Moon

I love it.

scott467

None of this would be happening, if Matt Gaetz was AG instead of a woman.

Women aren’t held accountable. They just aren’t. Certainly not like a man.

They get special treatment, special deference, Trump even ‘likes’ her, and being a woman, we can be sure she plays that for all its worth, because that’s what women do.

If Matt Gaetz was AG, he would be held accountable. That’s just a fact.

And nobody would be making excuses for him.

Gaetz definitely wouldn’t benefit from any ‘feelz’ the POTUS has for Blondi.

If other members of the DoJ and FIB (e.g., Patel and Bongino) thought Gaetz was screwing up, they’d have it out between them. But they can’t DO that with a girly-girl.

Just one more example, where the direction of the nation, the course of history itself, is changed, because we have a SKIRT leading the DoJ.

Thanks, Helen.

You’ve done so much for our country, in so many ways.
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singingsoul1

Gaetz has world smarts has been around the block knows how government DC works. Bondi seems to have had a comfortable job in FL and maybe coddled because of her looks. DC is brutal and needs brutal leadership someone who knows how to give it when times get hard. Be hones non of the three knew what they were getting into when they starry eyed took the jobs. By three I mean Bondi, Bongino and Patel. They did not know how deep the rot is just like Trump the first time around.

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scott467

I would expect Dan to have an idea, since he worked Secret Service for the Clintons.

That’s ‘rot’ headquarters.

singingsoul1

Then why does he look shocked and wants to quit? If he knows he will put the right pressure on the system .

kalbokalbs

Gaetz is one sorry ass example of a guy, better than a gal.

  :wpds_arrow:  Slow Guy 100% grateful Gaetz is NOT AG.

Gaetz “Tapped OUT” within a day or so, of nomination.

  • First sign of Dumrat push back, tucked tail AND ran away.

Gaetz resigned from the House, before his term was up.

  • R-Con House majority reduced by one.

Gaetz threw away his just won House seat.

  • R-Con house majority reduced by one.

Gaetz signed up for the golden cash cow – money.

  • ^^^ 100% FUBAR to praise this asshole, Gaetz.

Gaetz is on the same level as Rooster Head, Jason Chav… No use for them.

Have posted as much several times.

When the Country calls, the President taps someone to join the team, They Do Not Puss Out, as Gaetz did.

Similar to my beef with Flynn.

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Your nickel. Wouldn’t banter on such a loser topic.

TheseTruths

Yes, to say Gaetz wouldn’t be held accountable is ridiculous. Two MEN, Kath Patel and Dan Bongino, have been criticized from the get-go by the general public.

scott467

Yes, to say Gaetz wouldn’t be held accountable is ridiculous.

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No one said what you are asserting.

I said:

“If Matt Gaetz was AG, he would be held accountable. That’s just a fact.
And nobody would be making excuses for him.”

scott467

Assuming all of that is true, then why would DJT choose him?

Suppose it was more 3D chess, Trump knew Gaetz was a black hat or otherwise incompetent, and Trump wanted to use him to expose the DoJ.

When Gaetz backed out — for whatever reason — Trump needed someone else for the role, someone to use in the same way he intended to use Gaetz.

Someone incompetent or corrupt who would expose the corruption of the DoJ.

So why did he choose Bondi to replace Gaetz?

gil00

Supposedly gaetz was to be at tpusa today but a no show? Gaetz quit, nondi tried to convict zimmerman. So. Phfft. Whos at bat?

kalbokalbs

Bondi.

New post showing soon.

Wolf Moon

Still waiting for confirmation that Bongino did anything other than go home and bitch to the wife about Bondi. Not even sure that happened.

“Loomer sez” ain’t proof. I love her, but – speaking of “wymynz” – she’s a top exemplar, only working for MAGA and Israel on a rotating basis.

Aubergine

I believe Julie Kelly. She and Bongino are friends. And she is a good reporter:

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Wolf Moon

This matches what Trump said in that interview before the election. (I’m trying to find a link to that old interview, which I ran into again this afternoon).

scott467

Bill O’Reilly says he spoke with President Trump about “the list” who said their were innocent people on it who did nothing wrong but that their lives would be dragged through the mud and destroyed if it were to be released.

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What innocent reason is there to go to Ped0 Island?

Even the cooks and gardeners and cleaning services knew what was going on there.

How does DJT know who is innocent and who is guilty?

One way to know is who is guilty, for sure, is whoever is on videotape, doing things they shouldn’t, with underage girls.

So release those names.

That way, the ‘innocent people’ who ‘did nothing wrong’ on Ped0 Island (assuming that’s even possible) aren’t dragged through the mud with the people who are caught dead to rights on videotape.

scott467

Todd Blanche: “I worked closely with @FBIDirectorKash
and @FBIDDBongino on the joint FBI and DOJ memo regarding the Epstein Files. All of us signed off on the contents of the memo and the conclusions stated in the memo.”

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Except you didn’t.

It wasn’t signed by anybody.

Nobody put their name on it.

It wasn’t even dated.

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TheseTruths

“Sign off” means to approve, not necessarily to physically sign something.

Sign off:

personal approval or authorization; endorsement.

Native English speakers should know this, unless they’re trying to spin something.

If Blanche had meant “signed,” he would have said so, as in “They all signed the memo.” Clearly he meant they were all in agreement about the memo.

kalbokalbs

Nails it.

Hair on fire team, needs to take a chill pill. Get a grip.

TheseTruths

“Hair on fire” is getting off on it, so he’s not going to stop. He’s playing to his audience.

scott467

“Sign off” means to approve, not necessarily to physically sign something.

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I understand that, and you understand that.

Lots of people don’t, or wouldn’t catch it (as evidenced by multiple videos including Benny’s), in the midst of all the sturm und drang.

In a highly charged political environment, where clarity is essential and miscommunication could be disastrous, a professional — at least one qualified well enough for Trump to hire — would be mindful about saying things which could easily be misconstrued.

It also leads to the next obvious question.

Why wasn’t it signed?

Why did no one want to attest to the ‘truth’ of that ridiculous statement, by signing their name to it?

That wasn’t an an oversight or an accident.

Do you see how this is going?

It’s not personal. It’s challenging the narrative and asking questions that lead to the next set of questions.

If Gaetz is a bad guy, if he was never right for the job, it’s no skin off my nose and has no bearing on the point I was making. Substitute anyone for Gaetz with XY chromosomes.

I am not supporting or defending any person, I’m just following where the questions lead.

If Gaetz was AG, or anyone else with XY chromosomes, he would definitely be held accountable, in ways that Bondi never will be. Men in the administration won’t even talk to Bondi in the same way as they would talk to Gaetz.

Because talking to a woman in the ‘wrong way’, either in big business or in big government, earns you a trip to the HR department and sensitivity training and a black mark on your record, at best.

And no one would even be tempted to defend Gaetz (or any other XY) because of his sex — if anything, because he is male, other men would hold him to a higher standard.

Same general scenario with the ‘sign off’ post.

Pointing out that it also means ‘approve’ doesn’t bring any finality to the situation, it just raises more obvious questions, which ought to be asked and answered, in a search for truth.

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TheseTruths

Lots of people don’t, or wouldn’t catch it (as evidenced by multiple videos including Benny’s), in the midst of all the sturm und drang.

Absolutely inaccurate. Everyone knows what “sign off” means. Only those who have an idea in their head that they want to promote would twist the obvious meaning of a term.

“Benny” is not a sourse of credibility for me. He is another influencer who spins things.

I didn’t read the rest of that.

scott467

I didn’t read the rest of that.

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Of course you did, why would you even say that? 🤣

TheseTruths

Because usually a reply is expected, and I didn’t reply to anything else you said because I didn’t read it. I was letting you know that whatever you said, I’m not going to reply. Duh.

scott467

Well you should read the rest of it, whether you decide to respond or not.

Because it might point out that this isn’t personal, it’s challenging the narrative and asking what should be obvious questions.

In a search for something.

Aubergine

I’m less sure of this reporter, but:

para59r

IMO what’s at the crux of this is that AIPAC & the MIC used BBB 4 Leverage against release of Epstein Client List and other policy changes. BBB is a keystone to Trump having a successful term so he’s going to accept compromises. It was a now or never kind of thing. I seriously doubt AIPAC & the MIC care that they are damaging Trump in the process and would like to see him further compromised the better to see the gravy train continue. Whether Trump can reverse any of this I don’t know, we’ll see, he’s had a good record of doing so, but I’d think he’s measuring things on what he believes is for the greater good.

Besides voicing displeasure in all this, I can say with some certainly that Ted Cruz and John Cornyn are not getting my vote and the same will go for Chip Roy. Anyone not willing to stand up for release of Epstein Client List and supporting Zionist in Israel and endless wars. Hoping for primary challengers and if not, no vote as I try to keep my conscious clean.

Aubergine

“…if not, no vote as I try to keep my conscious clean.”

Me, too.

kalbokalbs

Dan, as Deputy FIB, is a geo bachelor.

Not an easy thing to do, further complicated by his incredibly high stress position.

Dan’s health situation…

Guessing huge pay cut. Adjustments of this nature are difficult.

The recent Epstein crap aside, really tough trying to unfuck FIB.

  • Even when Dan and Kash dabbled in Epstein, there was massive push back.

I’ll be surprised if Dan doesn’t bail.

Not blaming Dan, either way. I respect Dan if he stays or goes.

Aubergine

Megyn Kelly:

kalbokalbs

Saw that on X.

Couple bland lines. Anonymous source(s), I spose. Always reliable. 🙃

Bondi must go.”

Hell, that isn’t an actual decision.

That’s a personal preference of sorts. An ultimatum. Not final, as I read it.

Smells weak sister speaking. Not a leader.

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I’d guess, Trump is going to salvage Pam, Dan and Kash.

Too damn much at stake for personality clashes. Do their fucking jobs.

Turmoil in top management positions Destroys Momentum. UNACCEPTABLE.

Aubergine

Up to you whether you believe the reporting. Julie Kelly I believe. She is a
good friend of Dan’s. She would know, I think, what he is doing.

This doesn’t seem like a “personality clash” to me. That would seem denigrating to Bongino (which maybe is what you mean to do). I don’t think he’s like that. He was able to work as SS for Obama, though he didn’t agree with him politically. I think this really is a “her or me” proposition. Have you never been in a spot where it really was you or the other guy, and that was the bottom line? Because they were bad, or compromised, or just plain wrong?

I listened to Bongino for a long time on radio. One thing I think I know about him; he is not going to compromise his moral compass for a job. No job, not even this one. If he’s decided for whatever reason that Bondi is corrupt or not doing the job, he won’t stay.

Dan had a cancer scare. He got the “wake up call” of facing death. That changes people’s priorities.

I think Dan let people like Julie know he was put in this position because he couldn’t stand it anymore. People questioning his integrity, I mean. I may be projecting, because I would do the same, but based on listening to him all those years, I don’t think I am. He wants us to know the position he is in.

I have been in similar spots before, when it was stay and compromise my beliefs, or go and piss everybody off. I left every time. Because at the end of the day, I have to face myself. And eventually, I have to explain myself to God. I don’t want to tell him I was a moral coward when it counted. Maybe Dan doesn’t either.

I would honestly rather have Dan back on the radio telling us the truth as he is able to find it, than in the administration playing political games. Maybe I’ll get my wish.

TheseTruths

Hell, that isn’t an actual decision. 

That’s a personal preference of sorts.

That’s exactly what I thought when I read that. It’s what people want the consensus to be, and it very well might happen.

Turmoil in top management positions Destroys Momentum. UNACCEPTABLE.

That’s right, so I don’t think this will drag out. I hope you’re correct about Trump salvaging them.

At any rate, I want whatever is best for the country to happen. If they just can’t work together, then changes have to be made. If Pres. Trump can step in and work some things out, that would be good.

Robert Baker

It seems that Trump doesn’t have his usual special genius with his AG picks. To borrow a Biblical phrase, it looks to be his “thorn in the flesh”.

Aubergine

Seems that way to me.

kalbokalbs

Slow Guy voted B.

100%, at the right time, IF DOJ has a solid case, solid evidence, against pedos, indictments will be issued, arrests, trials…

Wolf Moon

Speaking of masterful, that was a masterful bait job. If CP has visibility on votes, that 18.5% is going to have a massive concentration of AI bots.

kalbokalbs

When I voted.

A. 18.3% Hate Bondi.
B. 81.7% Like winning.

I don’t care for the terminology. Though it capture the dislike for Bondi, blondie, inaccurate speaker, loves cameras….

(Not my survey.)

scott467

Update on Air India flight 171.

Air India 787 Crash Preliminary Report: Pilot Error Suspected in Engine Shutdown
The crash of Air India Flight AI171 and its preliminary report is a stark reminder of how critical cockpit actions during initial climb can lead to catastrophic outcomes.

Bhavya Velani
July 12, 2025 (edit: apparently it is July 12th already in India)

Article: “NEW DELHI— Tata Group-owned Air India (AI) Flight 171, a Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner en route from Ahmedabad (AMD) to London Gatwick (LGW), crashed shortly after takeoff on 12 June 2025. All 241 onboard, except one, plus 19 people on the ground, were killed in the deadliest Indian air accident in recent years.

The Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau (AAIB) of India has released a preliminary report confirming that both engine fuel control switches were inadvertently moved to “CUTOFF,” resulting in loss of thrust mid-air. Investigators are now focusing on crew actions, as no mechanical faults were found.”

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Me: It is incorrect to say the two fuel control switches were INADVERTENTLY moved to “CUTOFF”, because it is not possible to do it by accident. As multiple pilots have explained on youtoob, they are designed to be impossible to ‘inadvertently’ activate the switches.

You have to use a thumb and finger to grasp the switch, pull it up over a detent, move the switch forward or backward (depending on whether you are switching it ‘on’ or ‘off’), and then put the switch back to the down position.

So it requires pull-up, move, push down (or the switch is spring-loaded, so it ‘retracts’ under spring tension).

The flight data recorder shows that first one switch was shut off, and a second later, the second switch was shut off.

That is not ‘inadvertent‘, it was very much intentional, it is not possible to accidentally shut off both fuel cutoff switches.

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Article continues: “Flight data shows the aircraft lifted off at 08:08:39 UTC.
Merely seconds after reaching a top airspeed of 180 knots, both engines lost thrust as their fuel cutoff switches were moved from “RUN” to “CUTOFF” within a one-second interval.

A mayday was declared at 08:09:05 UTC, just before the plane crashed into a densely populated residential area near the airport.

Flight Data and Cockpit Voice Analysis
Data from the Enhanced Airborne Flight Recorders (EAFRs) provided critical insights. At the moment of failure, the cockpit voice recorder captured one pilot asking, “Why did you cut off?” — indicating that the action was unintentional.”

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Me: Asking why someone else did something does not indicate that the other person’s action was ‘unintentional’. It only indicates that the person asking the question wants to know why the other person did a particular thing.

It’s like I’m navigating a Gaslight obstacle course here.

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Article continues: “The other pilot responded with denial. The co-pilot was flying the aircraft while the captain served as pilot monitoring.”

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Me: We don’t know which pilot asked the question and which pilot responded with a denial.

What we do know is that one pilot very deliberately shut off one fuel cutoff switch, and one second later, the same pilot very deliberately shut off the other fuel cutoff switch. One second is the amount of time it would take to move your hand immediately from the first cutoff switch to the second cutoff switch.

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Article continues: “Both engines began a relight sequence after the switches were returned to the “RUN” position within 10 seconds.”

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Me: As you will see below, that is NON-STANDARD operating procedure. Even in the only event where both switches should and would be switched to ‘cutoff’, they would immediately (not even 2 or 3 seconds later, immediately) be put back to the ‘on’ position. Definitely not 10 seconds later.
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Comment at 6:40 from Captain Steeeve yootoob video about the fuel cutoff switches (boldface mine):

Captain Steeeve: “There’s double confirmation of every procedure that gets done. The final one and the most important one is the fuel control lever from run to cutoff. The pilot flying will touch it.

The pilot monitoring will confirm it. The pilot flying will then take it from run to cutoff and that cuts off fuel to the engine. That doesn’t get done for 30 to 60 seconds at a minimum [edit: after take off, if there is an engine failure] when you’re doing the procedure properly.

Is it possible that one of the engines flamed out and one of the pilots just panicked or inadvertently reached down and grabbed the wrong fuel lever and shut it off? It, it, it’s, anything’s a possibility, but that’s not part of their training and it’s not something that they would do, and it doesn’t explain the Wall Street Journal report that both fuel control levers were placed to the cutoff position.

Now, is there ever a situation, standard operating procedure, where both fuel control switches would be placed at cutoff in flight?

There is one and one only, and that’s called a dual engine failure. That’s also on that quick reference checklist. The dual engine failure requires the pilot monitoring to take both fuel control levers and place them to “cut off” and then back to “run”. That’s the entire procedure.

They don’t sit and cut off for a while.

It’s not like you count to 1, 2, 3 and then put them back. You go right to cutoff, right back to run. Now, uh that procedure obviously was not done.

There is never ever in the history of commercial flight ever been a procedure where you take both fuel cut off switches and put them to cut off and leave them there. Especially not seconds after rotate. ”

However, the recovery was insufficient. Engine 1 showed signs of stabilization, while Engine 2 failed to regain core speed.

The aircraft could not maintain altitude and impacted buildings within one nautical mile of the departure end of the runway.”

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kalbokalbs

Stunningly evil thing to do – cut off both engines moments after takeoff.

Evil on par with:

EgyptAir Flight 990, a Boeing 767, crashed into the Atlantic Ocean on October 31, 1999, killing all 217 people on board. The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) concluded that the crash was caused by the actions of the copilot, Gamil el-Batouti, who performed irrational maneuvers while the captain was absent from the cockpit. However, the Egyptian government disputed this finding, attributing the crash to mechanical failure or external sabotage.

^^^ Brave search

scott467

My suspicion was intentional sabotage, so I searched the names of both pilots, to find out if either was islamic.

Brave Browser search, A.I. generated answer:

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“The pilots of Air India Flight 171 were Captain Sumeet Sabharwal and First Officer Clive Kunder. Captain Sabharwal, aged 55, had 8,200 hours of flying experience, while First Officer Clive Kunder, aged 32, had 1,100 hours of flying experience.”
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Next I searched Captain Sumeet Sabharwal (A.I. assist search result) boldface mine:

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Captain Sumeet Sabharwal
Captain Sumeet Sabharwal was the pilot of Air India flight AI171, which crashed shortly after takeoff from Ahmedabad on June 12, 2025, resulting in the deaths of 241 people on board and 29 others on the ground. He was a seasoned pilot with 8,200 hours of flying experience and was known for his dedication and skill. Sabharwal had recently expressed a desire to step away from aviation to care for his ailing father, having told him just three days before the crash that he planned to resign and return home.

During the flight, Sabharwal issued a mayday call to air traffic controllers, indicating the plane was unable to gain height, and shortly after, the aircraft crashed into a building housing trainee medics at a medical college. His actions during the flight, including diverting the plane away from a densely populated area, were recognized as heroic, as they may have saved hundreds of lives on the ground.

Sabharwal’s funeral took place on June 17, 2025, in Mumbai, where his family, friends, and colleagues gathered to pay their respects. His father, who had been devastated by his son’s death, was left in deep sorrow. Air India expressed profound grief over his loss, highlighting his exceptional aviation skills and the respect he garnered within the aviation community.

Sabharwal was a resident of Powai, Mumbai, and lived with his nonagenarian father. His family had a strong connection to the aviation industry, with his father having retired from the Directorate General of Civil Aviation (DGCA) and his two nephews also being pilots. Neighbors and colleagues described him as a “thorough gentleman” and an “ace pilot,” emphasizing his calm demeanor and professionalism.

The crash of Air India flight AI171 remains under investigation, with teams from the US and UK assisting in the inquiry.”
…………………….

So it appears that Captain Sumeet Sabharwal:

A) was piloting the aircraft, at least once the emergency occurred

B) heroically acted to save lives of people on the ground by steering the plane to a less densely populated area to crash

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So that leaves the co-pilot, who appears to have been a Christian, not islamic.

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In Mumbai, tears and a final goodbye to Air India pilot Clive Kunder who died in Ahmedabad plane crash
By HT News Desk

Published on: Jun 19, 2025 04:21 PM IST

“His remains were kept at his home for friends and family to pay homage before being taken to Sewri Christian Cemetery for his last rites.

The mortal remains of first officer and co-pilot Clive Kunder, who died in the ill-fated Air India plane crash in Ahmedabad, were brought to Mumbai on Thursday. As per officials, captain Kunder’s remains were then transported to his family in Goregaon West, where they carried out the last rites.

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The mother of first officer Clive Kunder, co-pilot of the Air India plane that crashed in Ahmedabad last week, mourns after his mortal remains were brought to his residence in Mumbai on Thursday, (PTI)

Captain Clive Kunder lived with his elderly parents and younger sister in Mumbai. His remains were kept at his home for friends and family to pay homage before being taken to Sewri Christian Cemetery for his last rites.”
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So it appears the Captain (religion, if any, still unknown) tried and succeeded in saving potentially hundreds of innocent people on the ground, in his last moments of life.

And his co-pilot was not islamic, he was a Christian.

Both men lived with family.

So we still have no good answers.

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Wolf Moon

Muslim pilot or copilot?

Wolf Moon

Just saw the answer – thanks!

K1tt7-fzn

para59r

Excellent lesson and excellent timing. With Scott’s A + B stories above A being The Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau (AAIB) of India’s preliminary findings and B being Scotts run down on possible religious motive we can now move back to the very likely hood that the India government can not afford to blame Pakistan for the air disaster least the call of vengeance re-spark conflict between two nuclear powers and so after exhausting all the other mechanical theories they are now set to blame one of the pilots.

To succeed at blaming one of the pilots and not a sequestering of information as is I suspect the next step will be to find motive and Scott has already ruled out the religious motive unless it can be shown a sudden conversion had taken place. This leaves black mail, money incentive (possible insurance policy payout) or something like MK Ultra/hypnosis thing.

If none of those things can be proved then we get back to the red ball blue ball experiment above where the controller (India’s government manipulated the audience and simply lied to avoid a nuclear conflict.

para59r

I’m not sure but I think we have another name for this process….______________ and that vid was an excellent demonstration of it.

K1tt7-fzn

Wall Street Apes
@WallStreetApes
13m
“Big immigration update from the City of Los Angeles. Mayor Karen Bass just signed an executive directive that does 4 things”

Here’s the full breakdown

– First, every single city of LA department has two weeks to create and implement a preparedness plan that tells city employees what to do, what their rights are, if federal agents come to any city building or facility state. 

– Second, there’s going to be a new working group with lapd, the mayor’s office, and immigrants rights organizations, essentially to inform LAPD police officers on, on what to do and what’s really happening when they’re responding to immigration enforcement calls. 

– Third, and this is a really big one, the city of LA is filing a Freedom of Information act request with the federal government. And essentially, what it is they’re asking the federal government, they’re essentially demanding, saying, you need to release every single name of every single person who has been detained here in the city of LA over the past month since these, since these raids all began. They’re asking for names, where these people are being held, why they were detained or arrested in the first place. They’re also asking for the federal government to release the policy of why so many of these agents have been seen wearing masks, essentially concealing their identity, and why many of them haven’t been making their identification clear. They’re either their badge or their ID card oftentimes, the mayor says has been concealed.

– The fourth thing, the city is going to work with their departments to better give out information in multiple languages to families who have been impacted by this, to families who have had a loved one taken or detained or deported.

“A reminder, this is happening at the same time that the city of LA is suing the Trump administration for the ongoing immigration enforcement that’s happening here”

TheseTruths

My guess is that any “preparedness plan” will not be in alignment with federal law and will be a blueprint for avoiding ICE.

That third one looks like an attempt to tie someone up with busywork and for grounds to sue. It will only take the name of one illegal to give them grounds to sue because they will invent them.

Gail Combs

PAVACA,
Just for your info. All of a sudden today my eyes quit burning. WEIRD since it was raining the last couple days and my eyes still hurt. Today was clear.

para59r

Also PAVACA you need to check the page. Lots of weather related info dropped yesterday from Shanahan. Multiple posts here and here’s the head start.

K1tt7-fzn

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scott467

THANK YOU!

Every time these scumbags light a cop car on fire, that’s another $100k in taxpayer money down the toilet.

Every time they throw a brick through a windshield, that’s at least $1,000 to get it fixed at Lefty’s Special Gov’t Price Window Repair Shop, owned by the brother-in-law of the Mayor.

It’s infuriating.

Looking forward to video of cops SLAMMING ON THE BRAKES, getting out, and hunting these vandals down like hyenas on the Serengeti Plains.

kalbokalbs

Hope it’s not Tick Tok…

100% won’t surprise me if arrest are unleashed in the next week or so.

kalbokalbs

Best reporting of the past few days.

“Put Butthurt feelings aside. It’s NOT personal. Do your job, that you were selected for.

DUH!

Focus. America First. MAGA.

It ain’t rocket science.

Gail Combs

Also, FWIW, John Solomon is one of the reporters that Q said could be trusted.

TheseTruths

Excellent news throughout!

TheseTruths

John Solomon, starting at 8:25:

I know what Alan Dershowitz is talking about. Alan Dershowitz is talking about the black book and the security logs, that you could take the security logs and the black book, the address book and everything, and you could come up with a client list. That’s true, you could, But there isn’t a ledger where—I’m telling you because I’ve talked with agents who went all the way back to the beginning of this case—there was never a ledger that said, “Hey, I’m Jeff Epstein. On October 4th I got $10,000 from Politician B so he could sleep with this 14-year-old girl.” There’s no chance Jeff Epstein wrote that down. He wouldn’t. And I think people have had a false expectation about how Jeff Epstein worked and how the operation worked. It was all done on the Q.T.

He says what I’ve been saying. There is no one “client list.” It’s what the DOJ memo says. It doesn’t make sense that there would be one. And if people want lists, you can’t hand them the address book that possibly contains names of tradesmen, etc., who had nothing to do with child trafficking. I’ve never heard of an investigation where the public got handed personal data kept by the suspect.

Solomon said, after that:

Now if you went back and you read the great reporting that the Wall Street Journal did in 2023, we know exactly who the people were, where they were, what women were involved because the judge released a lot of this in the case. And there’s not a whole lot to be had.

K1tt7-fzn

Kleenex alert!

kalbokalbs

Wonderful for the children.

Gail Combs

My girl friend has very thick very fast growing hair. She lets it grow long and then has it cut and donates it for cancer victim wigs.

kalbokalbs

TheseTruths

The magic word seems to be “conspired.” I hope so.

barkerjim

Sorry I’m late.
https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/dumb-cars-friday-july-11-2025-c-and

Good morning, C&C, it’s Friday! In today’s roundup: WaPo seeks Biden brain transparency as the former president’s cabbage farmer, I mean doctor, refuses to testify on the grounds of self-incrimination; EPA chief bursts the chemtrail bubble, sort of, and the conspiracy theory floodwaters raged across social media; and MechaHitler goes on an industry re-defining rampage, possibly with help from above.

kalbokalbs

Impeccable timing, MeThinks. Thanks for delivering.

TheseTruths

Thank you for bringing this every day!

kalbokalbs

Nice to see PLT triggered…

kalbokalbs

Dear MAGA People Prone to Conspiracy Thinking (Which is Rightfully Most of Us):

Please consider the fact that the current DOJ, led by Pam Bondi, has resulted in more courtroom successes for the modern conservative agenda than any of us have ever experienced in any of our lifetimes, even if you are 100+ years old.

Please consider further that the current DOJ, led by Pam Bondi, has done so while causing the Democrats and rogue judges to wholly discredit themselves via sheer narcissistic stupidity.

Please consider further that this is all a transformational approach that has completely changed the trajectory of the America justice system and has allowed the enactment of the most significant aspects of the MAGA agenda.

Finally, please consider further that the REAL conspiracy is to destroy such success by making MAGAs rabid over Epstein evidence that may or may not exist, thereby wrecking DOJ leadership in the same manner as when Jeff Sessions was sabotaged.

I’m pretty good at spotting actual conspiracies to undermine our success, so please consider all I have to say.

Your pal,
CP

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kalbokalbs

TheseTruths

That complete comment:

Some people have completely unreasonable expectations. If you’re a person who believes in massive deep state conspiracies, and also believe that DJT can eliminate the deep state in 6 months, you’re an idiot. What he’s accomplished so far is pretty outstanding, as far as I’m concerned, especially since he’s working against a hostile, entrenched bureaucracy that’s fighting him on everything.

singingsoul1

I put the blame where it belongs Blondi main player . She is the one on Fox and in restaurants opening her mouth created false expectations. Now that we are riled up we should stand down. Tonight is the last time I speak about it.

TheseTruths

So well said.

Aubergine

I have thought, and still think, that John Solomon and Sarah Carter are controlled. They are mouthpieces for somebody, I’m just not sure who. So I always take them with a grain or two of salt. This from X seems like more “tiktok” diversionary stuff to me. I guess we’ll see if anything happens. I’m not betting on it:

MASSIVE NEWS: Stop what you are doing and take 5 minutes to watch this clip. This is huge! John Solomon says he has confirmed that the DOJ & the FBI has been secretly building a massive conspiracy case against the deep state! https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f4a5.svg “MAGA base, Americans, will be happy when they see where this is all heading in the next few weeks… I’ve got it confirmed. There’s a conspiracy case that was opened that looks at this window as a very large window. I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw a special prosecutor named by Pam Bondi in the next week or two. And why does this become significant? Because you don’t have to necessarily then bring the grand jury or the indictment in Washington, DC… it allows them to go to some place like Florida… This has been going on behind the scenes… This is a REALLY big deal… I think the most likely scenario is a large conspiracy case and it starts in the middle of July 2016, when John Brennan walks into President Obama two days before Crossfire Hurricane is launched… President Obama and Brennan knew… that this was a dirty trick by Hillary Clinton. That would be the first overt act and it would carry through… It allows for a very large series of events to be wrapped into a single conspiracy, and all of them to be brought into the indictment.” Patriots, it’s time. We knew it was heading this way, we kept the faith, but now it’s materializing right in front of our eyes! LFG

kalbokalbs

Have also thought and posted similar comments regarding Sarah and John.

This one may be different. Not because it is what I want to hear.

It makes sense.

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Somewhere, i think this evening, a post has Flynn saying similar things. (IIRC)

Comey, Brennan thing. Will include Clapper, unless he is singing to FIB/DOJ to save his sorry ass. Suggested this a day or two ago.

  • Only logical explanation why Clapper investigation not announced.
  • Bonus. Not citing Clapping may increase pucker factor for likes of hussein.

We’ll see.

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This evening makes more sense than the past 48 hours. <<< That is not a ding at you or anyone. Simply a bizarre ~48 hours we’ve been through.

Aubergine

If it makes you feel any better, I am NOT having a good time!

kalbokalbs

Nah. Not a bit.

My wish is Trump’s Team remain intact.

  • Yields the best opportunity for their optimal performance…Deliver For America.
  • Steadfast America First.

I do recall some of this is quite personal, for which I am sorry. Understand the pain. I do firmly believe, whatever can be prosecuted, will be prosecuted. Problem is solid evidence must support it.

We have no idea what deep state actors in DOJ / FIB have over the years destroyed. Nor do we have any idea what our criminal IC has destroyed. At some point, I hope Trump can take on the IC. That would be after 26 mid terms I spose.

Aubergine

Also, I don’t think this reporting is necessarily not accurate. I think the timing is what is controlled.

I think this happens all the time, actually. They control the release of news to manipulate the cycle.

Wolf Moon

I think it’s important to understand that everybody is trying to manipulate the news cycle right now – and in different ways.

When news came out earlier that Brennan and Comey were being grand-juried, all of this made sense.

Brennan and Comey are desperate, and they know things about Trump and Epstein that are very useful to attack Trump. Bondi is protecting Trump, largely because it’s her institutional duty to do so (I have to be vague). This is chess – getting Trump’s own pieces to pressure Bondi off her square is part of their game to get Trump.

Trump is not the only person playing +D chess. His enemies are pretty good players.

Bondi may take a political bullet for Trump here. IMO that’s a shame because she’s his best AG yet, IMO. Which is exactly why she would take a bullet for him.

Aubergine

She may be the “best yet,” but that doesn’t make her very good. It makes her the best of a bad lot.

How in the world people are watching the same gaslighting, showboating, media chasing, bragging, lying woman I am watching and thinking she’s great is beyond me.

Protecting Trump is the basic job. I get that. But that’s baseline. I think a lot of us are looking for a bit better than that when it comes to being honest with the public. I’m tired to death of being bullshitted by the government. At this point, I would welcome an EMP over Washington, DC, just to stop the nonstop lying and obfuscating coming out of there.

If all Trump wants from Bondi is protection, great. Then appoint one or more Special Prosecutors who will actually investigate stuff for the American people. And no more fucking career politicians for those positions, either. Get some real people who are as mad as I am about the lies, and turn them loose. I want people like this:

Sean Connery’s character is who Bongino is, and that is why there is a problem. This is what I think some people just don’t understand.

para59r

Comey, Brennan and Clapper are likely part of a horse trade. Sucks for them, good for us but doesn’t fix our current problem.

singingsoul1

I stopped watching Solomon a long time ago. My husband turned news off entirely. He cannot stand the gaslighting any longer. I put headphones on if I want to hear something.

kalbokalbs

THIS…

TheseTruths

I never thought they “sent out lackeys to the media.” I think “sources” are feeding the media, which is reporting what the sources said, and now Bongino and everyone else is in a very difficult position.

kalbokalbs

Bongino has put himself in a difficult position. Most unfortunate.

para59r

I think he’s mischaracterizing this and lacks standing for such statement, but we’ll take his 2 cents and shove it in the pocket to be counted up at a later date.

gil00

This federal judge is a Ugandan anchor baby. Im so done w the traitorous behavior in our country. Military step in, remove the judges for treason.

A federal judge on Friday ordered the Trump administration to halt indiscriminate immigration stops and arrests in seven California counties, including Los Angeles.

Immigrant advocacy groups filed the lawsuit last week accusing President Donald Trump’s administration of systematically targeting brown-skinned people in Southern California during its ongoing immigration crackdown. The plaintiffs include three detained immigrants and two U.S. citizens, one who was held despite showing agents his identification.

The filing in U.S. District Court asked a judge to block the administration from using what they call unconstitutional tactics in immigration raids. Immigrant advocates accuse immigration officials of detaining someone based on their race, carrying out warrantless arrests, and denying detainees access to legal counsel at a holding facility in downtown LA.

Tricia McLaughlin, assistant secretary of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, said in an email that “any claims that individuals have been ‘targeted’ by law enforcement because of their skin color are disgusting and categorically FALSE.”

McLaughlin said “enforcement operations are highly targeted, and officers do their due diligence” before making arrests.

Judge Maame E. Frimpong also issued a separate order barring the federal government from restricting attorney access at a Los Angeles immigration detention facility.

Frimpong issued the emergency orders, which are a temporary measure while the lawsuit proceeds, the day after a hearing during which advocacy groups argued that the government was violating the Fourth and Fifth amendments of the constitution.

She wrote in the order there was a “mountain of evidence” presented in the case that the federal government was committing the violations they were being accused of.

https://ktla.com/news/ap-top-headlines/ap-judge-orders-trump-administration-to-halt-indiscriminate-immigration-stops-arrests-in-california/

Wolf Moon

Dems are just liars.

gil00

Big fat YUUUUUGE ones. For many decades!

Wolf Moon

A huge fight is coming, and the Demmunists need to protect their bad actors with the ultimate “Whataboutism” – Epstein.

scott467

The easy way to overcome that is to call their bluff, go over the top, and reveal everything.

Sink the enemy’s entire fleet in one fell swoop.

Round up everyone who was involved with Epstein, along with everyone who conspired against Trump from 2016 through 2024 (and ongoing), and everyone who is facilitating the national invasion and the insurrection to resist deportation (Soros, et al.).

scott467

Now the meta data proves the video was edited, which everyone already suspected.
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scott467

scott467

The recent DoJ Epsten ‘memo’ (unsigned, undated) is now being called the ‘Lone Trafficker Theory’, like a ‘lone gunman’ theory 🤣
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Also, I just remembered, Cindy McCain’s video reply to a question about Epstein, saying “We all knew about him… We all knew what he was doing.”
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scott467

And not just Cindy McCain, but Melinda Gates knew all about Epstein too, and talked about it in a video interview:
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Also, I remembered this from a video a couple days ago, about one of Eptsein’s NY properties (not the mansion, apparently), but I don’t remember which one, so I searched Brave Browser and the A.I. assistant says:

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“Epstein’s earlier residence at 34 East 69th Street was a property that had been seized from Iran by the U.S. State Department during the Iranian revolution. This particular property was rented to Epstein from 1992 to 1996 by the Clinton-era State Department.”
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singingsoul1

I think what so many people not understand including Trump and his advisers it is not about Epstein he is dead it is about the children and teenagers. As a woman and mother I get it and if a creep would have don this to my children they would be dead. The insensitivity bothers me and shocks me. If there were other men pedos that needs to be looked at.
It was Blondi herself who sensationalized Epstein and the sex crimes and Patel and Bongino played along with it. I feel mislead by Trump’s team I trusted. By the way Trump’s letter does not even sound like him.
Will I get over it yes but trust has been broken and I will question everything and turn it over. As I said before the alternative is worse. Now I know they think we are stupid thank you who ever created this mess. 😡

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scott467

“I think what so many people not understand including Trump and his advisers it is not about Epstein he is dead it is about the children and teenagers.”

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In addition to that, the part of it that is impossible to accept is the Gaslighting aspect.

They are literally telling me and tens of millions of people that everything we thought we knew, and which even Patel and Bongino thought they knew, and told us about before joining the administration, is FALSE.

And they provide no explanation for it, at all.

Just trust me, bro.

Which Bongino and Patel would have laughed at, if anyone in gov’t said that to them, before they joined the gov’t.

I’m looking at the sky and it’s blue, and they are telling me not to trust my eyes, that it’s really red, because they’ve seen the file.

So stop looking at the blue sky, and just believe them, that it’s really red, not blue.

That’s not possible, I can’t do it. Because it’s not red, it’s blue. I’m looking right at it, and you’re telling me not to trust my lying eyes.

It is a fundamental conflict, like HAL-9000 being given conflicting instructions.

It’s like they’re attempting to rip a hole in the space-time continuum, right before our eyes, and we’re supposed to not pay any attention to it.

Or like we’re supposed to live in a world where we all just applaud the emperor’s new clothes, even though he’s completely naked.

Some people are absolutely fine with that.

Some people are not, because if we simply accept something we know to be untrue, if we are not to believe our own eyes and our own capacity to think, then we are unmoored from reality, just floating free, without any foundation or reference point.

I’m not gonna do that.

I can’t live that way.

Other people can if they wish, but I’m not… 😁

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