Dear MAGA: 20230122

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Principalities and Powers

H/T grandmaintexas “He who has ears to hear”.

The phrase principalities and powers occurs six times in the Bible, always in the King James Version and its derivatives (NKJV, MKJV). Other versions translate it variously as “rulers and authorities,” “forces and authorities,” and “rulers and powers.” In most places where the phrase appears, the contexts make it clear that it refers to the vast array of evil and malicious spirits who make war against the people of God. The principalities and powers of Satan are usually in view here, beings that wield power in the unseen realms to oppose everything and everyone that is of God.

The first mention of principalities and powers is in Romans 8:37–39: “No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.” These verses are about the victory Christ has won over all the forces ranged against us. We are “more than conquerors” because no force—not life, not death, not angels, not demons, indeed nothing—can separate us from the love of God. The “powers” referred to here are those with miraculous powers, whether false teachers and prophets or the very demonic entities that empower them. What is clear is that, whoever they are, they cannot separate us from the love of God. Victory is assured. It would be unfortunate to dwell on identifying the powers and miss the main thrust of the verse, which is assurance about what God has done to save us.

Another mention of principalities and powers is in Colossians 1:16, “For by Him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by Him and for Him.” Here is the clear statement that God is the Creator and Ruler over all authorities, whether they submit to Him or rebel against Him. Whatever power the evil forces possess, they are not out of the ultimate control of our sovereign God, who uses even the wicked for bringing about His perfect plan and purpose (Daniel 4:35; Isaiah 46:10–11).

In the next chapter of Colossians, we read about Jesus’ ultimate power over all other powers: “And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross” (Colossians 2:15). In keeping with all things, the powers are created by Christ and therefore under His control. They are not to be feared, for they have been disarmed by the cross. The Savior, by His death, took dominion from them, and took back what they had captured. Satan and his legions had invaded the earth and drawn mankind into captivity, subjecting them to their evil reign. But Christ, by His death, subdued the invaders and recaptured those who had been vanquished. Colossians 2:14 speaks of Jesus being nailed to the cross along with the written charges against us. The record of our wrongdoing, with which Satan accuses us before God, is nailed with Christ to the cross. It is thereby destroyed, and the powers can no longer accuse us; we are innocent in the eyes of God. Hence, they are disarmed.

Ephesians 3:10–11 presents different principalities and powers—those of the heavenly realms: “His intent was that now, through the church, the manifold wisdom of God should be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly realms, according to His eternal purpose which he accomplished in Christ Jesus our Lord.” Here we see the angelic hosts being shown the wisdom and purpose of God in the plan of salvation through Christ. Angels, both holy and unholy, witness the glory of God and the preeminence of Christ above all creatures in the church, those who are saved and preserved by His power (Ephesians 1:20–21).

Ephesians 6:12 declares the warfare in which we are engaged as we battle throughout our lives “against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.” So, having been saved, we must continue to struggle to do good things in light of the sure victory promised in Romans 8. It is as though we are facing an army of dark powers who have been disarmed from real power and against whom we have been promised victory. It is our job to demonstrate and depend upon the wisdom and power of God in defeating them in our lives. We can do this by trusting in God’s victory.

The final reference to principalities and powers is Titus 3:1. Here they refer to those governmental authorities whom God has placed over us for our protection and welfare. They are God’s representatives on earth, and submission to Him involves submission to His duly constituted authorities. Those who rebel against earthly authorities are “rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves” (Romans 13:2).

https://www.gotquestions.org/principalities-and-powers.html


Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour. 1 Peter 5:8

For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works. 2 Corinthians 11:13-15

Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. James 4:7

You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world. 1 John 4:4

For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world – our faith. Who is it that overcomes the world except the one who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?” 1 John 5:4-5

God’s Everlasting Love

What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things? Who shall bring a charge against God’s elect? It is God who justifies. Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? As it is written:

“For Your sake we are killed all day long;
We are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.”

Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 8:37-39


Remember. Always remember . . .
It is done! It is finished! We are already more than conquerors!

God has ALREADY won ! ! !

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pgroup2

I can’t be first. I ain’t good enough.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

“We’re not worthy! We’re not worthy!”

Gail Combs

Wolfie?

What the heck is with this promoting of the FLAT EARTH Bull CRAP? Sure smells like a CIA TRAP. USe Flat Earthers to paint Deploribles as NUTZ…

FIrst it was Patrick Gunnels on Badlands Media and now it is Charlie Ward (A PLANT –“…I was talking to Q this morning…”)

‘30 Reasons Why I Don’t Trust Charlie Ward – EDITED UK VERSION’
M SEEKER OF TRUTH | 8 April 2021

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TheseTruths

Lin Wood also came out as a flat-earther before I stopped looking at his Telegram channel many months ago. I don’t know his current views.

At the simplest level, this causes division and wastes a lot of time. But I agree that it is probably a tactic by the enemy to discredit us. For example, if a prominent “natural health” doctor who presents sound information about vaccines is also a flat-earther, who is going to believe him/her?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. Flat Earth is tar and feathers. Be careful playing with it!

pgroup2

Uh … the illustration you’re looking for is … tar baby. IMO.

Gail Combs

EXACTLY! 🙃 

scott467

You know, back when Amelia Earhart attempted to fly around the world, all by herself, with Fred Noonan as a stowaway, it was a long and dangerous endeavor.

But today it could probably be done for around $10k or less in plane tickets if you shopped carefully. You could ride in comfort and safety, and conclude the whole trip in just a few days.

So why doesn’t someone just do that, and videotape the whole thing, and film the whole thing, and broadcast it live from beginning to end, and take along several of the best known critics of a ’round earth’ as eyewitnesses?

Then no one would have a leg to stand on in the flat-earth camp… or we would all find out that the world really is flat.

The point being, in 2023, this could be conclusively proven to everyone’s satisfaction, in a matter of days, for little cost and practically no danger.

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pgroup2

A book by Jules Verne [old dead white guy] dealt with this.

Name of the book?

Around the World in Eighty Days.

The protagonist [For the public schooled among us, this word means the star of the show] was Phineas Fogg.

He took many methods of transport to ride around the world, with various adventures along the way.

Point being – it was a novel that put forth a proposition that the earth was round and going in one direction far enough would bring one back to the starting point.

Of course, mariners had been doing this already. But Phineas “proved” that it could be done in 80 days.

The book only sold well because it was based on a reality – the earth is a globe. Otherwise, it would have had a niche audience.

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Alas I already know what the response would be.

They would claim you just drew a circle on the disk with your plane flights. Remember, they think the world looks something like the UN flag.

Unless you ran the flights from Johannesburg to Melbourne to Auckland to Ushaia (near the tip of South America) and timed it carefully, in which case you could show the “circle” was far too small to be along the outer edge of their disk earth, and of similar length to one running at 40-50 N latitude.

Remember that one of their talking points is that flights that far south don’t happen because the “real” distance is out of range of airliners. As Wolf pointed out elsewhere such flights are rare, but not nonexistent.

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scott467

That’s why this part was included: “and take along several of the best known critics of a ’round earth’ as eyewitnesses”

If the leading members of their own tribe partake in the planning and go along for the trip…

…and if they are converted, then their followers will reject them and find new leaders who will faithfully abide their tradition.

But their numbers will also diminish.

Then take their new leaders, and do the same trip again.

And when the new leaders are converted, the news leaders will likewise be repudiated by the group, and the true believers will again find new leaders to carry the torch.

But the size of the group will be ever more diminished, as the evidence becomes more irrefutable, and every member of their group who accepts the challenge ends up converted.

Or the leaders will catch the round-earthers in some cheat during the trip, expose it, and humanity removes a veil of lies that has stunted our species for centuries.

That’s the enticement and the opportunity.

That’s how you know whether everyone involved has an honest heart and an open mind, if they are willing to put their beliefs to the test and accept the results.

In my experience, many people won’t, for a whole variety of reasons.

I suspect enough of the leaders would agree to participate in the planning and in the trip itself, because to not do so would be tantamount to admitting the belief was more valuable to them than the truth.

Not participating when the opportunity is presented would be discrediting in and of itself.

Robert Baker

OPINION: Why bother with all this. These flat earth leaders are doctrinaire disciples They are not interested in evaluating evidence. Flat Earth philosophy is a faith-based philosophy. I know that is a judgmental assessment but their arguments are not reasonable. Whatever their reasons may be they are not about saving us from a round earth deception. I guess in this particular case it is fair to call me a flat earth denier. Usually I don’t get involved in these kinds of debates but in this case I made an exception. For years I considered this a satirical debate about what I could not figure. I guess it is serious to some people. It is one of those topics I categorize as “Who you gonna believe? Me or your lying eyes.” People are free to believe what they want about anything they find interesting but the foundation for Flat Earth is built on sand.

pgroup2

And the sand rests on …

Wait for it …

A huge platform.

 😂 

cthulhu

A turtle. Which is on another turtle.

In fact, it’s turtles all the way down….

scott467

“OPINION: Why bother with all this.”

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My favorite kind of question!

It cuts right to the heart of a matter, and even better if the answer is something I haven’t fully thought about or already come up with an answer for.

So I would begin by saying because truth matters.

And if the significant majority of people don’t agree on things having to do with reality, society cannot be cohesive.

Or to say it a different way, what good is it to know the truth about some thing, if you are the only one, or one of the few, who knows and/or believes it?

It’s maddening. We have all experienced it nearly every day for the past 2+ years, whether dealing with people about masks, or the jab itself.

The truth is knowable, but for a variety of reasons, ultimately due to the personal interests of a very few in concealing the truth, the majority of people do not know the truth on these two relatively basic issues.

And look at the chaos just these two things have caused.

We live in a world filled with lies of every sort, with new ones (and derivatives of old ones) constantly emerging. We get used to it, like the din of background noise at a crowded restaurant, and desensitized to it.

But it’s always there.

Occasionally, someone in the restaurant has had too much to drink, and gets in a loud dispute with a waiter, and the attention of everyone is drawn to the disruption.

Anything in society that has to do with the nature of truth or falsehood which rises to that fairly low yet significant threshold, gaining the crowd’s attention, is worth resolving.

Because that’s the moment to strike, when they’re paying attention.

Like flat earth vs. round earth.

It’s a source of never ending controversy. Everyone ignores it 99% of the time, but like every ingrained controversy, it always comes around again, dividing people on either side of the issue.

Think of it like a garden, and the flat earth / round earth is a weed. Most everybody ignores it, but if weeds are not uprooted and removed, pretty soon they spread, and take over the whole garden.

This particular weed has grown big enough that it’s worth eradicating. Or, conversely, maybe in the process we find out that what we thought was a weed is actually the flower, and the rest of the garden was the weeds.

Either way, a resolution to the controversy would be a good thing. Sometimes the garden needs to be weeded.

Due to the number of weeds (lies, controversies), you have to pick your battles. It’s best to pick battles which can be narrowly defined, and then won.

This (flat earth vs. round earth) is, I think, just such a battle.

It could be resolved, to the point that at best it retains fairy tale status (if flat earth is conclusively disproved), or in the unlikely event that it turns out the round earthers were wrong, that’s a discovery worth knowing!

So imagine a group of people dedicated to this sort of thing. Similar to the TV show MythBusters, except they set out to identify and conclusively prove, one way or the other, controversies which create chaos in society.

There’s no shortage of targets since 2020, that’s for sure 😁

Essentially, it would seem to be good to resolve controversies, if they are resolvable.

This one, flat earth vs. round earth, seems eminently resolvable, and provable, to the satisfaction of nearly everyone involved or interested.

That being the case… why not do it?

Robert Baker

That is a detailed answer. It is obvious to me that you consider it a debate worth resolving. That is fine. My position is that it is extremely challenging to argue against a strongly held belief. I guess there is nothing wrong with giving it a try. I predict it will be frustrating. May good fortune attend you.

scott467

“It is obvious to me that you consider it a debate worth resolving.”

___________

It’s just the one we happen to be talking about, so it’s the one I used as an example.

.

“My position is that it is extremely challenging to argue against a strongly held belief.”

___________

Agreed 1,000%.

I think it pretty clearly has to do with that last word, ‘belief‘. Because if we believe something, we start out with a nearly insurmountable bias.

It appears to be human nature that we look for things which support what we already believe, and look away from things which contradict what we believe.

Why is that?

I suspect it’s often because we are heavily invested in things which we strongly believe, and to upend that belief — or to allow even the possibility that it might be upended — would be disruptive to one’s income, or family, or social circle, or all of the above (and more).

Which is why it is so important to always have our foundations in truth in the first place. Because if a foundation with cracks slips past inspection, and gets built upon, it becomes like a Jenga Tower.

If we look directly at the crack in the foundation, after we have built four or five stories on top of it, then we’re going to have to do something about it.

And it’s not going to be cheap or easy. We’re going to have to move everybody out of the building, tear everything down, fix the crack in the foundation, and then rebuild.

Most people are content to live with the crack in the foundation, and just not look at it.

Other people can’t stop thinking about it, it keeps them up at night, so they have to fix it, almost no matter the cost.

Why are we not taught, from childhood, to recognize the trap and consciously avoid it, by being always willing to question what we believe, instead of reflexively defending what we believe to the death (figuratively speaking), which appears to be human nature?

.

“I guess there is nothing wrong with giving it a try. I predict it will be frustrating.”

____________

Agreed again. On an individual basis it is nearly always frustrating, because we are rarely in a position to expend the resources (time or money) required to actually satisfy the opposition.

And the opposition can usually defeat the entire endeavor by simply refusing to be satisfied.

It would require a (figurative) headlock, to focus the direction of attention.

And a Clockwork Orange style eyelid opener device, to prevent the head, once properly immobilized in a (figurative) headlock, from closing its eyes.

And maybe a bit from the glorious 9th, by Ludwig van.

For nostalgia 😁

https://youtu.be/G4jEhHQR5us?t=70

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But since basic decency (not to mention a number of good laws) prevent the use of headlocks and eyelid proppers, something creative would be needed.

And that almost has to be the fun part, resources allowing, to create scenarios where people would volunteer, to be incentivized, to disarm themselves, to open their minds, to allow the truth to enter, and experience the results.

The results could be great, or the results could be disastrous. Therein lies the drama and intrigue. This may have the makings of an excellent TV show… 😁

Ethically, it raises the always interesting question, is it better to know the truth if the truth is unpleasant, or is it better to continue in believing that which is false?

Red pill, or blue pill?

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“May good fortune attend you.”

___________

Thank you, but just between you and me… that’s not very likely, is it… 😂

Without the resources to make it happen, it’s just a mental exercise, an entertaining distraction…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

We’ve already seen a situation where a flat earth leader ran a test with a gyroscope that (of course) gave him EXACTLY the round-earth expected results. The amount of tapdancing the jackass did to avoid coming to the right conclusion was remarkable.

Ultimately they’re taking Flat Earth on faith and *rationalizing* their choice, not actually being rational. Once someone takes something like that on faith they’ll spend great energy refusing to accept contradictory evidence.

scott467

Wait, how can Charlie Ward be a plant, he was one of the chiefest of the chief post-inauguration gurus of the cult of Hopium!

He was even talking to Q on the phone… he’s gotta be for real!!!

We sure did waste a lot of time on that BS.

Robert Baker

Charlie is an entrepreneur. He saw a way to monetize his opinion and he took it. I don’t think it needs much more analysis than that.

scott467

“Charlie is an entrepreneur. He saw a way to monetize his opinion and he took it.”

_______________

Looked a lot like he was committing fraud to me, lying and misleading and taking advantage of people for profit.

Robert Baker

I didn’t comment on the value of the opinion. That is for the shopper to decide. Buyer beware is always good advice.

Valerie Curren

LOL!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

YUP.

I think the Pfizer money is DESPERATE.

I think Bill Gates is DESPERATE.

I think KlauSS Schwab is DESPERATE.

I think the Ukraine war wagon is DESPERATE.

They shouldn’t have gotten rid of Trump. BAD MOVE.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This Greek conservative pol is HEAVILY shadowbanned!

Brave and Free

???
I didn’t see any pol Just a thread of various tweets…..
Unless the first tweet about good intentions is the pol?

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Talking about the account.

TheseTruths

Breaking: More Classified Documents Found at Biden’s Delaware Home in DOJ Search (Update: FBI ‘Consent Search’)

Six more classified documents were found at the Wilmington, Delaware home of Joe Biden on Friday during a nearly thirteen hour search of the home by the Department of Justice according to a statement released Saturday evening by Biden’s private attorney Bob Bauer. This is the fifth batch of classified documents found in Biden’s possession and the fourth to be found at the Wilmington home in searches stretching from December 20 to Friday. The first batch was found at the Penn Biden Center in Washington, D.C. on November 2nd. (Update at end.)

Bauer also said, “The DOJ also took for further review personally handwritten notes from the vice-presidential years,” and that some of the items taken by investigators were from Biden’s time as a senator as well as vice president. 

Bauer said the search lasted from 9:45 a.m. until 10:30 p.m. JB’s lawyers were allowed to be present, unlike Trump’s. Enquiring minds want to know: Did they search through Jill’s closet and drawers?

cthulhu

Follow up question to “Did they search through Jill’s closet and drawers?” —

Was she in them at the time?

TheseTruths

Ha! They are staying somewhere else for a few days.

scott467

“Follow up question to “Did they search through Jill’s closet and drawers?””

____________

Too scary.

Couldn’t get a volunteer.

Brave and Free

Did they put their mask on when they searched her drawers?.
Just asking.

Aubergine

No, because nobody wanted to sniff her granny-panties.

singingsoul1

Do not do that I am now visualizing them sniffing Jill’s undies  😳   😂 
I need bleach  😜 

Aubergine

Lol, sorry.

singingsoul1

🙂

kalbokalbs

Wonder when they’ll search through Senator BiteMe’s docs at U of Delaware.

TheseTruths

Jack Posobiec:

Silk reveals President Trump told her to do whatever she wanted for Diamond’s memorial service and he would pay every cent for it

She also reveals that Diamond was cremated per her wishes.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Trump will always be a mensch. He has my vote in 2024. He deserves 8 years – he’ll only get 4, but he can do 8 years in 4, IMO.

TheseTruths

He looked so solemn as she was speaking. Yes, he deserves many more years.

TradeBait2

Agreed. We will have an even more focused and battle hardened POTUS.

RAC

They owe him 4 already that should be repaid on top of 24.

Gingersmom2009

Mensch, a largely forgotten word that’s so precise with regard to Trump. It was used against him. He loves people.

JW in Germany

Rest In Peace Diamond. God Bless her and her Family.

God Bless a great Friend of their Family, Donald J. Trump.

Brave and Free
Wyoming Kucklehead

Did she get the jab?

scott467

From the linked article:

Silk: As soon as Diamond hung up the phone, she said to me, “I can’t breathe.” It was sudden, out of nowhere and no warning. I got her to the kitchen table, opened up the back door so that she can get some air. And, each breath was less and less and less, until her eyes became a stare…

My husband and I followed the 911 instructions from the lady. We laid her. Like they told us to lay her flat. They said do CPR. And it was one-two-three-four, one-two-three-four, one-two-three-four… My husband and I alternated and kept going and going and going, until the emergency truck came into the yard and the EMS came into the house. They did everything that they could.

So what I want to say to everybody is don’t you dare call me a conspiracy theorist. Because I saw it happen. I saw how it happened. I was there when it happened and it happened suddenly. I want America to wake up and pay attention. Something ain’t right. It’s time to investigate what’s really going on here! And get some answers to why our people are falling dead suddenly.”

Silk then went on to say, “Instead of asking if Americans are vaxxed or unvaxxed the real question is are they being poisoned.”

cthulhu

Heartbreaking.

kalbokalbs

Wish Diamond had an autopsy. If nothing else, check for heart damage from Covidiot Injection(s).

Gail Combs

Silk said Diamond wanted cremation….

I am wondering if Silk is having a private autopsy done FIRST.

Cremation is a very good way to throw people off track until a very through autopsy is done. That way there is no questions about a burial service.

TheseTruths

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TradeBait2

^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS!

If authentic audits were conducted on each – America would begin to fulfill America’s promise and the world would be changed forever.

TheseTruths

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

WOW.

Clearly Scott did some research, IMO.

rayzorback

WOW.
Even after BELIEVING that the “shots” were good and TRUE?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Scott was messed up by the shots, I’m pretty certain. That got his attention.

TheseTruths

Yes, but he’s not attributing the “victory” of the unvaxed to their doing due diligence (which apparently he didn’t do before getting vaxed). He’s attributing it completely to distrust of the government. It’s a way of saying we were “ignorantly” correct.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

But he pretty much says that distrusting big government and big corporations is smart, or words very close to that.

EARLIER he said that anti-vaxxers were “ignorantly correct”, but now I think he’s trying to say it was the smart take.

cthulhu

I’ve pretty much given up on trying to read his mind — all the loose screws in there make it too noisy.

Robert Baker

You get the prize for sound analysis. Congratulations.

TradeBait2

Whatever gets him through the night. Admitting the truth of the clot shot is like the first in a 12 step program.

A program none of us had to go through that used reason, faith and science to make an informed decision.

Gail Combs

Once it was obvious they were denying excellent alternative therapies, the only conclusion that could be drawn is they WANTED an Emergency Use Authorization for a vaccine that WAS NOT NEEDED…

SO WHY?
Money?
or an even nastier reason.
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Brave and Free

Oh you’re just being to suspicious….
They wouldn’t do anything evil……
Just kidding Gail, thanks for all your research it’s most excellent!

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Gail Combs

My Dead mom would disagree. She was killed in a government ‘experiment’

Valerie Curren

That fact motivates AND animates you still!!! So sorry for all that you all went through 🙁

Gail Combs

Yes it does. The Lord seems to want to take the very good early.

It makes me think he is giving the EVIL Ones every chance in the world to change before they die and their choices become permanent.

Valerie Curren

Amen, God does desire that Everyone would be saved even though He knows that they won’t all choose Him, to their eternal destruction.

nikkichico7

… 😔🙏🏼❤️ …

scott467

I think I like being called ‘anti-vaxxer’. We were right either way, and embracing the epithet takes their weapon away, it disarms them 😁

Then they have nothing, but they’re still full of Jolly Roger Ranch Sauce 😂

scott467

Now he might want to immediately examine and figure out how in the WORLD it took him 2+ years to come to a realization he could have made in the first couple of weeks or months.

Because this won’t be the last time that it’s important to get something right, and quickly.

Aubergine

AMEN.

I can’t stand the guy. He absolutely can NOT admit he was snookered, and the rest of us did our due diligence and weren’t.

Now the shtick is we were just “anti-government.” Well, screw you Scott Adams, I was “PRO-GOD-GIVEN-IMMUNE-SYSTEM.”

I was smart enough, and discerning enough, to follow the facts, which led to the inevitable conclusion that the clot-shot could not be trusted, and was in fact COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY.

scott467

“I was smart enough, and discerning enough, to follow the facts, which led to the inevitable conclusion that the clot-shot could not be trusted, and was in fact COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY.”

_____________

I agree with every bit of that.

.

“Now the shtick is we were just “anti-government.”

______________

That was my shortcut.

I knew, and was certain, the shortcut was going to lead to the exact same place as “smart enough, and discerning enough, to follow the facts, which led to the inevitable conclusion that the clot-shot could not be trusted“.

I’d just get there quicker… 👍 😁

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Aubergine

Lol! Not a bad course of action.

numbersgirl

I am no genius by a long stretch, but a curious cat by nature. I believe that I am responsible for me. I gotta say, my bullshit meter pinged non-stop when this Covid business started. I didn’t believe a word of it watching the Chinese people “dying in the streets” and MSM news screeching with their hair on fire.
It was a strong instinct level feeling that this was bullshit. What I didn’t get at the time was how sinister it was.

Robert Baker

You refer to one aspect of my philosophy of life. I call it adultism (my word descriptor). Adultism simply believes that when anyone reaches adulthood that person is responsible (with a few exceptions) for every voluntary action or voluntary decision made. Some were coerced into taking the vaccine while a great many weren’t. The moral responsibility for the resulting flotsam is on those adults who voluntarily decided to require the vaccine.

Gail Combs

Your ‘Adultism’ is why I do not blame Trump AT ALL.

He point blank has stated he thought mandatory was WRONG,

That shots for the young who were not at risk was WRONG

That the shots could have benefit for the old with co-morbidities.

Remember we had Democrat governors shoving covid infected people into nursing homes. 45% of the deaths occurred IN NURSING HOME PEOPLE. So yeah, if the clot shot would stop that? I could see him supporting a RISK – BENEFIT evaluation for the clot shot FOR THE ELDERLY.

From Steve Kirsch

This is from a risk/benefit computation I did on 1 November 2021 using the VAERS data to compute the ratio of the # of people killed from the vaccine (V) to the # of people who might be saved from Covid (C) if they took the vaccine and it had 90% effectiveness over 6 months (since we knew it waned over time and variants would change). Of course, that was a conservative estimate of the benefit, but that’s because I wanted to make sure I was on solid ground if attacked….

https://expose-news.com/2022/05/07/ukgov-data-shows-nobody-should-be-injected/

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So the Clot Shot is really bad for the majority of people but is ‘Less bad’ for the elderly.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

It is a bit less than two years to the next election so I can see Trump making his ‘move’ to shift from supporting a VOLUNTARY shot for the at Risk, to completely TRASHING the Deep state.

As Clif High said a couple years ago, Trump is tossing out feelers and waiting for the normies to WAKE THE FUCK UP!

Another point to consider. POTUS has OTHER PEOPLE saying what HE as a politician COULD NOT starting with. Dr Zelenko

Remember Steve Bannon started his War Room to cover the Plannedemic. He has had on

Dr Malone
Naomie Wolf
Robert Kennedy Jr
and tons of other great ‘Anti-vaxer’ Doctors.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

As General Flynn keeps saying we are dealing with 5th generation warfare. Pull back and look at the whole ‘game board”

Did Trump’s White Hats WARN US and give us alternatives?

YES!

Robert Baker

While I have no reason to contradict your assessment I believe Trump’s responsibility is that of the CEO of an administration that aided the rogue governors and advisors who sold this vaccine approach as the “government response” to a health emergency. Truman said that the buck stops in the Oval Office. Trump was no, doubt, misled but it was “his people” that led this fiasco. His responsibility is guilt by association. Lest anyone forget, I still maintain, despite my opinion on this topic, that Trump is the only presidential contender who gives a hoot about the American citizen. DeSantis may be a close second but his views have not yet been revealed by the heat of the contest. Time will tell.

Gail Combs

“…. I believe Trump’s responsibility is that of the CEO of an administration that aided the rogue governors and advisors who sold this vaccine approach as the “government response” to a health emergency…..”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Normally I would agree but POTUS was boxed in. He did not HAVE a real administration he was in control of, instead he had a Deep State shark tank!

POTUS TRIED to get HCQ out to the public, Peter Navarro tells the tale of how that was blocked every step of the way.

POTUS signed into law Right To Try, but the hospitals and CDC DENIED PATIENTS THE RIGHT TO TRY Ivermectin.

The Stafford act shifted authority FROM POTUS to ‘Medical Professionals’ — FEMA

I FINALLY found it! FORBES:

In a widely expected move on Friday, President Trump declared the coronavirus pandemic a national emergency, invoking powers under the Stafford Act to allow substantially more federal aid to states and local governments.

  • Trump has faced mounting pressure from lawmakers, especially Democrats, to declare the coronavirus a national emergency, which would free up as much as $50 billion in federal aid to help combat the pandemic.
  • In his press conference, Trump announced that his administration would be partnering with private industry to speed up the rate of coronavirus testing; Vice President Mike Pence called it a “historic public-private partnership.”
  • The Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act of 1988 empowers the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to direct how the U.S. government responds to disasters and to assist state and local governments during “natural catastrophes.”
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𝗖𝗵𝗶𝗲𝗳 𝗰𝗿𝗶𝘁𝗶𝗰: “𝗪𝗲’𝘃𝗲 𝗯𝗲𝗲𝗻 𝗰𝗮𝗹𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗣𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗧𝗿𝘂𝗺𝗽 𝘁𝗼 𝗱𝗼 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗱𝗮𝘆𝘀… 𝗔𝗺𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗻𝘀 𝘄𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝘀𝘂𝗽𝗽𝗼𝗿𝘁 𝗮𝗻 𝗲𝗺𝗲𝗿𝗴𝗲𝗻𝗰𝘆 𝗱𝗲𝗰𝗹𝗮𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗼 𝗲𝘅𝘁𝗲𝗻𝗱 𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗮𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗔𝗺𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗻𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗼 𝗻𝗲𝗲𝗱 𝗶𝘁,” 𝗦𝗲𝗻𝗮𝘁𝗲 𝗠𝗶𝗻𝗼𝗿𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗟𝗲𝗮𝗱𝗲𝗿 𝗖𝗵𝘂𝗰𝗸 𝗦𝗰𝗵𝘂𝗺𝗲𝗿 (𝗗-𝗡𝗬.) 𝘀𝗮𝗶𝗱 𝗼𝗻 𝗧𝘄𝗶𝘁𝘁𝗲𝗿. “𝗕𝘂𝘁 𝗵𝗲 𝗺𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗿𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗽 𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗮𝘂𝘁𝗵𝗼𝗿𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗼𝗿 𝗶𝗻𝗱𝘂𝗹𝗴𝗲 𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗮𝘂𝘁𝗼𝗰𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗰 𝘁𝗲𝗻𝗱𝗲𝗻𝗰𝗶𝗲𝘀 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗽𝘂𝗿𝗽𝗼𝘀𝗲𝘀 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝘁𝗿𝘂𝗹𝘆 𝗿𝗲𝗹𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗰𝗿𝗶𝘀𝗶𝘀.”

Robert Baker

What can I say. Employing a bit of slang vernacular, sometimes it sucks to be President.

Gail Combs

We need to keep an eye on the real prize. The complete destruction of the Cabal/Deep State/ReichsWEF.

If POTUS makes ONE misstep they WILL DESTROY HIM!

Remember that the Tzar of Russia foiled the Cabal’s plans for the dismemberment of the USA after the US Civil War….

RESULT?

THE CABAL WIPED OUT HIS ENTIRE FAMILY!

Robert Baker

Standing for truth is a perilous undertaking. The founding fathers of this republic weighed the cost and decided to proceed. It cost many of them their fortunes and a few their lives and families. I assume Trump has made that same assessment. I certainly hope so.

Valerie Curren

Amen all around!

Gail Combs

Yes, I am sure he has. But WE NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT TOO.

Robert Baker

Specifically what are we suppose to acknowledge? What is our acknowledgement expected to achieve?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

If this is so…then he can TELL us that that is what happened. What are they going to do, impeach him again?

pgroup2

It turned out that sinister-level didn’t take very long to achieve.

singingsoul1

For me was the over the top pics and news from China and then scarf lady with her over the top charts. I think if they had comon sense reporting and trying to convince us but as always communists overdo to try to convince the so called common people. Most people have not been exposed to the tactics fall for their stuff.

scott467

“It was a strong instinct level feeling that this was bullshit.”

_______________

Distrusting the government can never steer you wrong.

If that was even a little bit true in the 40s and 50s, it’s infinitely true today.

Brave and Free

CYA in full swing IMO. can’t afford to lose any following, and pickup new ones in the process.

singingsoul1

Adams was one of the guys shaming his viewers to take the jab. He is just as responsible as all those media people who promoted the jab. Seculow was another guy but he did not appologise. I used to have respect for him but if he cannot apologize what worth is he? How many took the jab because Adams and Seculow shamed them?
He needs to take responsibility to his viewers. This is not about winning or loosing we all loosed with jab or without it because friends and family bought into the scam.

Gail Combs

If you are incorrect, OWN IT and eat your plate of crow with dignity. People will think all the better of you for being flexible enough toevaluate new data.

Valerie Curren

like Dr, Malone has, I believe…

Gail Combs

Yes he did, He took the Jab and regrets it.

Valerie Curren

He’s now a serious warrior for Truth!

singingsoul1

True 🙂

scott467

“I used to have respect for him but if he cannot apologize what worth is he?”

______________

I would guess that everyone is afraid to apologize, or counseled not to apologize, because lawsuits could be coming out of the woodwork soon, targeting anyone with deep pockets.

For example, there must be thousands of people who can claim “Mr. Seculow told me to take the vaxx, and I did, and now I’m injured for life.”

Apologizing would essentially be admitting guilt before the lawsuits are even filed. Probably would encourage lawsuits.

So I would be surprised if anyone apologizes, ever, because everything is about the money.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

A good point.

singingsoul1

Money the evil of much what is happening even today at the RNC

kalbokalbs

Adam’s TW will help wake some normies.

Barb Meier

Medical issues should never be political and never have “winners or losers.”

Gail Combs

Medical issues aren’t politicized they are WEAPONIZED.

TheseTruths

From Canada:

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cthulhu

Well………..a “coup” is a “stroke”.

TheseTruths

Interesting…

ORIGIN OF COUP

1640–50; <French: literally, blow, stroke, Old French colp<Late Latin colpus,Latin colaphus<Greek kólaphos

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/coup

cthulhu

Related to the idiom in Spanish “dar un golpe” — “give a blow (to)”.

TheseTruths

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nikkichico7
pgroup2

Not necessarily. Reversal protocols do exist.

Go find them.

Gail Combs

I just posted them.

Valerie Curren

Thank You!!!

TheseTruths

Apropos of nothing, but kinda funny:

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL! Love it.

slowcreekno

I suspect there never was a second date.

cthulhu

Depends on if he got any action.

rayzorback

I put this up Late last night…..
(Maybe too late for most)
So I’m putting here as “Food for thought”.
Not agreeing or disagreeing, but found it fascinating.

TheseTruths

If it’s about flat earth stuff, I just can’t… 😆

rayzorback

“I just can’t”…. Then you NEVER WILL?

rayzorback

Bet you won’t “Waste your time on this either…. Right?

I’m just asking Honest People (And I believe you to be) to at least l
watch to the end….. Then decide. 🙂

TheseTruths

I appreciate that you think I’m honest, but I don’t want to spend 35 minutes on that topic right now.

rayzorback

ok…. maybe later?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Take a look at what I found. I spent about an hour, and I’m even MORE of a believer in NASA now.

rayzorback

there’s none so blind as those who will not see
proverb You will never be able to make some understand or accept something if they are too stubborn or unwilling to learn or notice.
You can present facts and try to reason with him all you want, but his mind is made up. There’s none so blind as those who will not see.

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TheseTruths

You said, “Not agreeing or disagreeing, but found it fascinating.” But I don’t find it fascinating. If you think that makes me (in your words)…
blind…
stubborn…
unwilling to learn…

…that’s quite the judgment call.

rayzorback

I just challenge you to watch to the end, just one if not both of the videos I presented with an open mind…. Then reject it if you do.
open minds… CHANGE lives.
(I know that you know this already.)

slowcreekno

They talk about having an open mind near the end. But all the noise prior to that — their mind is so open that their brain fell out, as it were.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

They don’t follow through on proofs. THAT is very nasty. When it’s EASY to follow through, it’s important to do it.

EVERY flat earth argument that I follow through on, falls apart.

It’s a game.

The government LIES, but they only lie about stuff that they’re sure they can get away with – and sometimes even THAT falls apart.

Frankly, I DO think the Government is behind this flat earth stuff, and they’re trying to make us look “overly and badly skeptical”.

Sorry, Fauci. Not gonna work. Sorry, Avril. Not gonna work. Sorry, Bourla. Sorry, Schumer. Sorry, KlauSS. Not gonna work.

Gail Combs

That is why I think it popped up at Badlands Media

I think Patrick Gunnels is TOXIC.
No such thing as pathogen caused illness (Virus OR Bacteria)

Dinosaurs are a hoax. (Sorry I spent my youth haunting the dinosaur hall of the NYC Museum of Natural History)

And now he is a Flat Earther???
JUST as Badlands is taking off?

He tars the whole site with ‘THESE FOLKS ARE FAR OUT CRAZIES!’

There are a few others who are also pushing the envelope.

BillBeakman

After everything we’ve been put through, vis-à-vis WuFlu or GovFlu (that last is for S. Adams), after the revelations of the Church Committee, after “endless wars” after seeing how quickly with America first economic policies our economy could be turned around, can anyone afford to trust the government?!
When all is said and done, wasn’t our constitution created out of distrust of government?!
Don’t piss on me and tell me “that’s rain.”

Lord help me to recognize the sophistries, the lies that daily assault me and my kith & kin…

singingsoul1

Open mind is used to convince people because no one wants a closed mind.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

You and I literally posted this thought at the same time. Great closed minds think alike I guess. 😀

singingsoul1

I have never been excused having a closed mind 🙂
Good to know someone thinks as I do sometimes 🙂 How is your pet what is his name? Hope he is doing well 🙂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

He’s doing quite well…shedding right now which is a sign of health.

singingsoul1

Happy to know that. In winter he should be sluggish?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Oddly, he seems to work the opposite way. He’s more sluggish in the summer.

Ironically his cage probably gets colder in the summer, because I will open my windows up overnight to cool the house down (and the temperature drops lower than my winter thermostat setting. fairly frequently).

singingsoul1

Interesting . My one son has snakes they seem to live forever. He takes good care of them. I hope your critter lives a long time 🙂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

They’re typically good for 10 years, maybe 14. He’s 4 1/2 now.

singingsoul1

Past his teenage years 🙂

cthulhu

Still on Australian seasons?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yeah, that’s ironically true, but he’s generations removed from Oz. I doubt his parents were.

I think it’s just a case of overnight temps in his case tending to be lower in summer because I air the house out actually hoping it will get nice and cool.

cthulhu

Hopefully not too cool….

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Indeed. Well, in summer my house has never got below 58 for overnight cooling/airing out. And he does have a heat lamp at night.

Valerie Curren

That sounds Wonderful!

I remember our honeymoon in Estes Park in early June w/ hubby opening the bathroom window (as a courtesy) & it being quite chilly, like perhaps in the 40’s at times 🙂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

It’s a common psychological tactic: Present a bunch of bullshit in a way much of the audience won’t be able to see through immediately, then suggest that if you’re unwilling to accept their assertions, you’re closed minded.

No one wants to be accused of being closed-minded, so you end up saying, OK, maybe.

Or say you CAN see through it. You can rest assured the ones who couldn’t will accuse you of being closed minded. So peer pressure gets most people under those circumstances to either shut up or they lose patience and simply call it out as bullshit and let it go at that. But simply saying “that is bullshit” by itself is not a valid rebuttal.

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singingsoul1

Manipulation seems behind the flat earth but why?
Sowing distrust? There is a reason some people are convinced about flat earth just as people are convinced the jab is good and those who not take it cause car accidents.
In our free society people can choose the wrong path their own thoughts and speak freely..
I have a right to believe with certainty jabs are bad and the earth is round.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

We might be talking about two slightly different things here. What I was describing was a trick ANY charlatan will try to use to get people to believe his balogna, That’s method, an age-old one.

As to why there’s such a hard “grass roots” push for flat earth, and whether it’s actually being done by the enemy to confuse/discredit/distract us, or whether the charlatans are doing it for some different reason even as basic as some clown found a way to make money off people with less critical faculty, is a different matter…That’s motive.

singingsoul1

You are on to something Thanks 🙂

Gail Combs

The TIMING says MOTIVE….

They want to tar Trump supporters as far out loonies. That is why Patrick Gunnels has all of a sudden come out of the closet.

First it was Viruses do not cause disease.

Then Pathogens do not cause disease

And now he has gone FULL FLAT EARTH!

I smell a SNAKE who has wriggled into the truth community.

The Timing has been just too telling.

Patel Pariot comes out with Badlands Media starting  Oct 10, 2022. He entices a lot of Trump supporting independent media types to join and have shows on his platform.

THEN Patrick Tosses the FLAT EARTH TURD in the bowl with an entire show on Badlands about Flat Earth. It got pulled BTW.

So on his own Rumble channel he says he is a flat earther thinks dinosaurs are a hoax…

Also Gunnels NEVER lets an opportunity to bash Steve Kirsch and Dr McCulloch pass.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Flat earth was being pushed aggressively by charlatans long before this.

Gail Combs

Of course it was. However it is now showing up again in ‘places that allow the Cabal to show Deplorables are to be ignored as UNSCIENTIFIC LOONIES.

Very useful if you are trying to slide out of Nuremberg II

TheseTruths

I refer you to slowcreekno’s comments. Every time I look at a flat earther’s perspective, I see excellent and scientific counter-arguments that debunk it. At this point I’ve seen enough. 

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rayzorback

Thanks for taking the time to watch it. And for your opinion.

singingsoul1

I see earth like a ball. I can ballance on the ball and move it without falling off. Now give me a platform 5 F high when I get to the end I fall off 🙂
Who lives on the edge of the earth? I know all about magnetic and so on but flat earth I have never seen never while flying.
I know I made it simple for me and it works the earth is round.
Why would the earth be flat if all the planets are round ?

Gail Combs

I am looking at the SOURCE — Charlie Ward…. Who in my opinion is a Deep State Asset.

This is the same old playbook.

First it was boiling grapefruit skins to make HCQ — WRONG it extracts Quercetin

Then it was the ‘Magnetic Shots’ (That took out Dr Tenpenny)

followed by PINE NEEDLE TEA…. (Aimed at Dr. Judy Mikovits)

Wolfie explains it best HERE:

The Magnetism Challenge: Part III – Suramin:   :wpds_arrow: A Lesson in Discreditation of Dissident Scientists and Science

…Thus, when this information got out, the CRITICS were in the catbird seat, and the INDUSTRY which oddly tolerated these results, was in trouble.

How does one flip that around?  👉 DISCREDIT THE CRITICS. 👈 

Now I did not realize at the time that THAT was what was going on with “pine needle tea”. I thought this was just the usual stuff that pops up routinely in the “natural health” world. However, a closer look at the article surprised me.

There appeared to be a chemical error, and it appeared to be Dr. Judy Mikovits making that error. But it’s not her making the error.

Here are two paragraphs of interest:

Brave and Free

Excellent catch Gail.

Gail Combs

The battle is really heating up and we have to be ever watchful for Trojan Horses designed to smear us as ‘Conspiracy Kooks’

rayzorback

Charlie Ward may well be a Deep State Agent, crackpot, etc. It was his show where the Guest brought the info. The other video that I posted may be a better one to watch. There are many out there.
Constants:
1) Water finds its Level and must be in a container or it runs downhill.
2) Using Globe Math, there is a distance limit to what we can see before it goes away “over the horizon”. That distance has been exceeded many times where the impossible is visible.
Thanks for your input as I highly respect and value your views on many topics. 🙂

Aubergine

Honest question…

If I post a video about Satan worship, and just ask you to have an open mind, and watch until the end, will you?

Or have you already decided that worshiping Satan isn’t for you, and you don’t need to watch it?

Or less extreme, a video about how great being Antifa is, with a great kicker in the last minute? Will you watch it?

rayzorback

Very good Honest question!
If I had time, I would. If for no other reason than to see where the enemy is coming from.

Aubergine

Thanks for the answer. It’s helpful.

rayzorback

YW

Barb Meier

You have run us through this drill before and I wonder why.

rayzorback

“They” wouldn’t LIE about a DEADLY Vaccine would “They”?
“They” wouldn’t LIE about a STOLEN ELECTION would “They”?
“They” wouldn’t LIE about 9-11-01 would “They”?
“They” wouldn’t LIE about the moon landing or Flat Earth…
Would “They”?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I think you’re right. I think the GOVERNMENT is pushing FLAT EARTH on us.

rayzorback

could be

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

WHOA. This just hit me.

If you have people in your life who are really pushing the flat earth stuff on you – they may be FEDS or assets of feds. It would make sense.

They may also be connected to 9/11, because there is some relationship there, between flat earth discreditation and 9/11 truther derailing.

That brings in a while bunch of other suspects.

Gail Combs

Yup that is why I was screaming about Patrick Gunnel last week.

That this shows up so close to Patrick’s Flat Earth video makes me vert suspicious.
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Aubergine

I actually know a couple of flat-Earth believers. One is a very dear friend.

In both cases, this is a religious belief for them. They believe the Bible tells them the Earth is flat.

If it is your religious belief the Earth is flat, I’m not going to argue with you. But just state it that way. Don’t try to feed me “science” that backs up your belief. Because the “science” that the Earth is flat is pure bullshit.

rayzorback

My “Flat Earth” research has zero to do with my “religious” beliefs. I have seen many references to scriptures pointing to it, but I haven’t even looked into that angle yet. So please don’t accuse me of questioning by deception!

Aubergine

I wasn’t writing about you, I was writing about other people I know.

If you have researched flat Earth theory, and still believe it, I’m amazed.

rayzorback

I never said that I believe it. I said I was looking into it and have some compelling points.

Aubergine

Ah, ok. Sorry, I misunderstood.

rayzorback

no problem

RF121

My YouTube channel has lots on it. And yes, some of their arguments are compelling. Not sold, but some things that make you go hmm.

rayzorback

sure does.

BillBeakman

As long as assets of Feds includes activated MK’d. Sometimes they aren’t conscious assets but assets nonetheless.

Gingersmom2009

I assume this is a faith-based belief. Well, here is the perfect faith-based presentation – the testimony of Charlie Duke. Youngest of the Apollo astronauts. This guy is either the worst kind of lying SOB, or he isn’t. No middle ground.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This was a great video! Thank you!

Gingersmom2009

Sorry to be strident with the comment — but I’m so over the flat earth/moon nonsense.

There’s no middle ground, either Charlie Duke is a liar or he isn’t. Either Charlie Duke and everyone else that was a part of the whole thing have been lying to their families for generations to keep this grand hoax going, or they haven’t.

rayzorback

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slowcreekno

I spent the approximately 38 minutes looking at this. There is this guy David Weiss, who argues that the world is flat and the main counter-argument is that NASA is faking everything.

tl;dr: waste of time. There is a display of complete ignorance of geometry, astronomy, and engineering going on here.

Any nuggets of criticism of the nebulous «they» vanish in the general noise and ignorance.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OK – I’m taking one for the team.

1.

I went into it for 5 minutes – past the ads – and the first argument is the “plane routes”. The argument is that there are no plane routes from Australia to Chile. On the flat Earth, they’re far apart, and supposedly this explains that most routes between AUS and CHILE are “up and around the Pacific” in a clockwise direction.

I investigated that, and it’s simply not true. There are not MANY direct flights, but there are some, and you just have to be persistent to find them. It’s not a popular route, so they can’t fill planes.

2.

Next, the thing about NASA faking pictures. NASA will very frequently CREATE images – and they will SAY SO in the caption – to show things that don’t show up in the visible spectrum or in photos – and I strongly suspect that’s what’s going on here.

So yeah – I will admit that it sure looks like they used the SAME picture of Jupiter – but WHY? Did they just create a teaser image showing a aurora? Did they actually ENHANCE an old image to show a hidden aurora? Or is that aurora picture something else?

So off I run to do a search, and find this….

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/jupiter-s-aurora-presents-a-powerful-mystery

You will notice that it IS reconstructed data!!!

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Here is a DIFFERENT reconstruction of the data.

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So what happened here is that somebody copied it onto an OLD IMAGE of Jupiter.

But my guess wasn’t good enough – I wanted to PROVE IT.

So I followed a link to the Juno project twitter, and found a ton of images, including this one…..

…..that led me back to this article….

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/hubble-captures-vivid-auroras-in-jupiter-s-atmosphere

…..and this image in particular…..

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…..with this caption…..

Astronomers are using NASA’s Hubble Space Telescope to study auroras — stunning light shows in a planet’s atmosphere — on the poles of the largest planet in the solar system, Jupiter. This is an image composite of two different Hubble observations. The auroras were photographed during a series of Hubble Space Telescope Imaging Spectrograph far-ultraviolet-light observations taking place as NASA’s Juno spacecraft approaches and enters into orbit around Jupiter. The full-color disk of Jupiter in this image was separately photographed at a different time by Hubble’s Outer Planet Atmospheres Legacy (OPAL) program, a long-term Hubble project that annually captures global maps of the outer planets.

Credits: NASA, ESA, and J. Nichols (University of Leicester)

SO – what this Weiss guy is doing, is PRETENDING NOT TO KNOW.

It’s OK to be suspicious, but we have to INVESTIGATE, and when the evidence warrants, we have to EXONERATE.

The government lies, but not about the round earth, and I know that in part by not only my own observations of time and space on international flights, but in terms of simplifying everything I know about science and the world.

The government lies, but Eratosthenes did NOT.

PS – the trick with this video is not to watch the whole thing fully, but to INVESTIGATE a small portion of it enough to understand why people are becoming mired in bad skepticism.

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TheseTruths

Thank you for spending the time. As I said before, this is what happens every time flat earth theories are presented to people who have knowledge of various subjects and who can research. It falls apart every time. And when false information is presented as part of the argument, as in your first example, I’m done. If people can’t be honest in their presentation, then I have no interest in what they have to say. And if they are presenting it out of ignorance, there is no reason to grant them credibility, IMO.

cthulhu

Y’know, “prejudice” — or prejudging — gets a bad rap. The fact is, we prejudge things all the time. Things like “the last three times I tried to back out of my garage that way, I hit a planter — I don’t think it’s a good idea to back out of my garage that way.”

Maybe this fourth time might be the lucky one — but you have now denigrated your cars ability to negotiate that path by prejudging its likely failure.

One day, the Fiancee and I were schlepping down a dirt road on Taveuni, Fiji, where we chanced to encounter a male of about 18 years, with impressive melanin, carrying a machete that would impress Paul Hogan. Our reaction was to try out our “Bula!” and inquire where to find the natural water slide that was supposedly nearby. He said, “I’ll take you” — and took us down the road, up behind a paddock, and up a path. We all ended up playing in the water slide for almost an hour — he had been cutting copra all day and appreciated the cool-down as much as we did. We prejudged him according to our learned knowledge of the Fijian people and customs.

If we’d been walking down the street in San Jose and encountered the same guy, we’d be on high alert performing evasive actions. Because of our prejudice.

It seems like any exercise of situational awareness, thinking, or common sense is the bad sort of “prejudice”, that must be shunned, despised, and ritually abjured…..

How often must one experience flat-earthism takedowns before one should prejudge it a waste of time?

cthulhu

What sort of world dictates that we should figure everything out from scratch instead of letting prior experience guide us? The sort of world where “what is a woman?” is even a question. The Marxist “Year Zero” writ large, as it was in the Killing Fields of Cambodia or the French Revolutionary calendar. It’s fashionable to be stupid — can we risk being nie kulturny?

Aubergine

Amen! And thank you.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Oh, but if you don’t watch THIS video you’re some kind of closed-minded shit.

/s

kalbokalbs

Uh yup….only without the /s.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Well, I was being sarcastic…but that IS their attitude.

TheseTruths

What an apt observation! I enjoyed the water slide story, too.

pgroup2

But what if Mister Machete was from San Jose and was just there on vacay?

Asking for a friend.  😆 

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slowcreekno

Thanks for the deeper digging and the tip at the end, about looking at smaller parts. The rate at which the information (or bullshit) comes is overwhelming. Which might be part of the producer’s intention. I just sat and went all — whoa, this is so unreasonable and so obviously wrong, and these guys sit there with their smug laugher.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Flat Earth is a great influencer that is used by the IC to discredit people. I think it’s worth it for every person to confront it, personally, because it teaches skepticism, but in the end, if you don’t get the debunk, you’re not fully getting how modern science has to move beyond our born senses to include our ability to abstract – but that is part of religious belief as well, so I think it should come naturally to people who believe in the Abrahamic God.

Valerie Curren

Beautifully said–TY!

Aubergine

Here’s what frustrates me; what ELSE might you have done with this research time?

I watch very few videos posted here or elsewhere. They are too damned long, and I have too much to do. I could read the material presented in an hour-long vid in ten minutes.

Gail Combs

That is why I will watch a video while resting, take notes and post the video WITH NOTES and time pointers if there is anything of interest.

No reason for all of us to waste our time watching the same thing

Aubergine

I appreciate you so very much, Gail. You are a wonderful resource for us here. I love what you bring to us every day.

Valerie Curren

Amen!!!

Valerie Curren

I REALLY Appreciate your efforts & often pass them along as they are Most Helpful–Thank You for the many ongoing digs!!!

Valerie Curren

That’s generally my view too, I’d Much prefer to read rather than to watch 🙂

Brave and Free

Same here Ambergine

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Finding that WRITTEN caption with a WRITTEN description of the composite picture saved me a lot of time. I would have invested many more HOURS if I had to watch videos for the same information.

There are days that I think video was a TRAP, at many levels, and McLuhan understood it more than most of us.

rayzorback

It’s OK to be suspicious, but we have to INVESTIGATE, and when the evidence warrants, we have to EXONERATE.”
.
That is exactly what I have been doing. Thanks for your time, research and input. I posted these things here because this is the place where the members are all smarted than me.

Valerie Curren

this is the place where the members are all smarted than me.”

wait I’m perpetually the dumbest kid in any Q-Tree room 😉

at least a number of us are humble about it (& know it) LOL 🙂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The government lies, but Eratosthenes did NOT.”

Eratosthenes measured the Earth, quite cleverly, but he wasn’t the first to realize it wasn’t flat. He was beat to that realization by at least three centuries. He wasn’t the first non-liar.

The thing about this is, you do not need sophisticated scientific instruments, or even primitive stone-knives-and-bearskins stuff that was too expensive for a typical farmer back then (dirt, dirt poor) to see the evidence that the earth isn’t flat. If that were the case, then yes you could plausibly suggest that the people with access to the instruments are liars (though you’d have to explain why so many people repeat the same lie).

You need two eyes, patience (you will need to wait for two lunar eclipses), and a functioning brain. That’s it. It’s accessible to anyone.

There are many different versions of the flat earth hypothesis. The ancients believed that the sun actually went below the plane of the earth at sunset, then traveled under the earth and went back above it in the east at Sunrise. In other words, their model of celestial motions actually made sense; the difference between their notion and ours is the shape of the surface we’re standing on.

The sad thing is the new version of flat earth that’s currently in vogue is absolutely ridiculous as it can’t explain the existence of sun or moon rise–because the sun and moon never drop below the horizon in that model. Nor can it explain other celestial motions, apparent or otherwise.

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Valerie Curren

Didn’t you actually address flat earth ideas in one of your dailies? Putting the link here Might be helpful to those who want to dig deeper…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I did on a couple of occasions. Or rather I linked to a bunch of stuff that addressed it. But note the one or two people here who seem to either be converted to it or thinking about it, were here back then.

Valerie Curren

Well sometimes it takes several exposures to a certain way of thinking for it to sink in, if it Ever does 🙂

I’m still learning from some of what Gail has shared, & I’ve seen her post the same things a few times, but it does take a while to absorb the complexities, especially if the info is quite divergent from what you thought you knew 😉

rayzorback

Thanks for taking the time to watch it. And for your opinion.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

You’re welcome!

kalbokalbs

There IS a time and place for endless, “why”.

This shit ain’t it.

rayzorback

ok

Valerie Curren

LOL

michaelh

flat earth = psyop

Valerie Curren

new math

h/t Marica’s

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

WHOA.

Was this guy spying?

He honeymooned in Soviet-controlled Hungary when he married Jill.

Maybe he’s really “Second Bernie”!

China Joe. Something is up.

TradeBait2

The first arrest will surprise…

Aubergine

Wouldn’t THAT be fantastic? That might make my whole year.

Valerie Curren

Hey Wolf this is the second reply (that I’ve noticed) to me that doesn’t also show up in my Bell Notifier. Did you change some settings here? The other reply was from Singing above, fyi…

Valerie Curren

Weird, now your reply Is in the Bell Notifier, after it wasn’t there previously…hmmm…website gremlins 😉

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

There is a delay sometimes. Usually less than a minute.

Valerie Curren

Thanks but the 2 replies I “caught” were there (surely) Way more than a minute as I just Happened to note the replies were directed to me as I was scrolling down the page again…no biggie, I just like to let Wolf know about any presumed site anomalies 🙂

Valerie Curren

I just checked the times between Wolf’s & my comments & it was like 8 hours…fwiw

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

WOW!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yikes….yeah that ain’t right!

Valerie Curren

Yup

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Not my gremlins! The information has to go through “greater Washington, District of Criminals”, where WordPress has their strange and wonderful installation, where all that information goes. Curiously, sometimes it STALLS there a long time, since that is one of the superpowers of the notifier – to not notify people.

If it never shows up, then another question – is your notifier “spinning” or working? If working, then yeah – they may be cutting us off. If you’re getting replies from other people here, but not from me, then Hmmmmm.

Valerie Curren

Hmm thx. So far my noifier Appears to be working & I only noticed a reply from you & one from Singing that didn’t show then did later. There Might be a reply from Gail that I’ve missed, but that’d be on another day’s page so not sure if she actually replied to my remark to her.

Next time I reload the page I’ll check all my replies on the page & let you know if any other ones didn’t make the notifier.

If my reply idiosyncrasies reveal that the District of Criminals & Word Piss are (again) messing with us then I hope you can do something “useful” with that info. My comments are generally not important enough to suppress around here, but “they” Could test drive aspects of tyranny & suppression on me as there have been what appear to be “patterned probes” of my Special Connections main blog for a couple of years now (possibly since the January 6 crack down on dissidents), fwiw…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. I think they’re always messing with us.

Valerie Curren

We’re on their radar because we are a “threat” to the empire of lies!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. The IC asshoes can use discreditation talk like “They debate flat earth on that site!”

Whatever. I NEVER let that shit get in the way. It’s one of the easiest manipulations. Free speech wins in the end!

Valerie Curren

Free Speech Always. If what is being discussed is ultimately Bull Crap the Free Speech component will Always expose it as such.

That’s what make the truth suppression in the “public square”, like on social media, so extremely frustrating. If our “alternate” views are actually crap the debating of them (freely) will ultimately expose that. Obviously the “powers that be” are deathly afraid of the Free Exchange of Ideas because their Propaganda can’t withstand even grade school levels of scrutiny!

TheseTruths

At first glance this is funny until you realize the Fourth Amendment is being violated and the people are standing up for their rights.

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cthulhu

They’d prefer birdshot?

Gail Combs

Sling shot with rocks ala David?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OMG, I love this!

TheseTruths

I’m not sure it’s real, but it makes a point.

singingsoul1

I can see it is real . I live in Portsmouth but did not know they use drones.
The apartment complex Government housing has lots of problems but seems isolated to that part of Town.

TradeBait2

As I posted above – I was born there. However, we left a year later.

singingsoul1

Interesting.

singingsoul1

I do not live in Wayne Hills but does not surprise me that there are drugs

I did not know police flies drones here in Portsmouth?  😱 

TheseTruths

I bet a lot of people didn’t know about the drones. The fight for freedom never ends!

singingsoul1

They always invent new ways to invade our space to spy on us.

pgroup2

[snort]

TradeBait2

Hmmm. From the city in which I was born. Explains a lot. Hope they had good aim.

Robert Baker

I can just see the headline.

BUCKEYES KEEP THEIR EYES ON THE SKIES

pgroup2

I smell bovine excrement.

TheseTruths

Possibly…

pgroup2

So’s flat earth. Possibly …

Give me a break.

TheseTruths

C’mon, man! 😂

pgroup2

Are only beer bottles harmful to the drones? Other types of bottle are not?

And if the drones are truly PPD property, we’d expect to have them coming to the door to retrieve their shit property.

Maybe they’re just letting the citizens keep the downed drones as trophies.

TheseTruths

Thank you for this message, Carl.

H/T grandmaintexas “He who has ears to hear”.

I miss her input here.

rayzorback

“He who has ears to hear”. (And Eyes to SEE)
Hmmmm.

Valerie Curren

AND a heart to understand!

rayzorback

Amen Sister!

Valerie Curren

🙂

singingsoul1

Listen with the ear of your heart 🙂

Valerie Curren

Hey Singing your reply to me did Not show up in my Bell Notifier…I wonder why?

singingsoul1

I do not know? I am having problems with my bell and have to go to W to see answers.

Valerie Curren

Hmm. Let Wolf know the details if you haven’t already. He told me that he thought we might be being messed with by the District of Criminals Word Pissers!

singingsoul1

Interesting

Valerie Curren

Now I see your comment in the Bell Notifer when it wasn’t there previously…hmmm

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

WordPress, District of Criminals, is crimming.

Valerie Curren

shocked, shocked I say!

Valerie Curren

Amen!!!

TheseTruths

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Excellent. Time to stand up to the GLOBONAZI SELLOUTS.

para59r

https://www.toddstarnes.com/us/atlanta-burns-antifa-wages-war-against-police/

😏🙄🧐😮Any chance Biden is scrambling a squadron of F16’s right about now?
Or should I go to bed?🥱😴

cthulhu

Hah! I just got another absolution letter from BofA.

What has been happening is that someone is repeatedly applying for credit in my name with my address from BofA, but not necessarily from the bank. One time, it was to purchase a video game in a store. The next time, it was something else. This last time, it was an Alaska Airlines Visa card.

That it keeps happening to me makes me think that it is somewhat personal; that it always involves BofA has me suspecting there may be some internal connection there.

Anyway, this Alaska Airlines card (with a $16,000 limit) showed up in the mail around Thanksgiving. I immediately called it in as unauthorized, and they finally got around to admitting it’s fraud as of January 14th.

How is anyone supposed to ever get anything done when they have to keep warding off schemes, frauds, and grift?

Gail Combs

Do you still have any ties to BoA? Bank accts credit cards….

cthulhu

Not for the last 40 years.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

On the other hand, you can take some comfort in the fact that whatever piece of shit is doing this to you also can’t get anything else done.

Robert Baker

It would seem that there is some sort of legal action you can take, an affidavit of some kind (some sort of Notice of Intent), that states you intend never to apply for a BofA line of credit of any type, which could be served to the bank. Admittedly that would require a legal fee but it should end your legal liability for any future event. There are many other banks where you can obtain any required future credit service.

michaelh

This is a longish read but digs into TikTok. . .

TikTok May Be A Chinese Superweapon
A weapon of mass distraction

https://gurwinder.substack.com/p/tiktok-may-be-a-chinese-bio-weapon

Original title described TikTok as “bio-weapon” which I’m not sure is much of a stretch

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michaelh

Fans Suspect Rigged Miss Universe Competition
By Emma Vaske – Intern
Jan 21, 2023
https://dallasexpress.com/lifestyle/fans-suspect-rigged-miss-universe-competition/

Texas native R’Bonney Gabriel was crowned as Miss Universe last Saturday, but days later, individuals on social media accused the contest of being rigged.

Gabriel was the first Miss USA to claim the Miss Universe crown in 10 years. People on social media thought the competition was rigged in favor of Miss USA, calling the competition a “fraud” and tagging their posts with the hashtag #rigged.

Some think the competition was rigged in favor of Miss USA because the new owner of Miss Universe, Anne Jakrajutatip, also owns Miss USA. Jakrajutatip is a Thai businesswoman who acquired The Miss Universe Organization in October for $20 million. Fans of the competition also pointed out that Gabriel did not deserve to win due to her difficulty walking in her NASA tribute costume.

Even other contestants claimed that the competition was unfair. In response to similar allegations in October, Gabriel stated, “It was not rigged because I would never enter any pageant or any competition that I know I would win. I have a lot of integrity.”

Gabriel has her own sustainable fashion brand called R’Bonney Nola. She gives her time as a lead sewing instructor to a nonprofit in Houston called Magpies & Peacocks. The nonprofit is dedicated to eco-friendly practices and designs. Gabriel also works with women who have survived domestic violence and human trafficking.

Ahshia Berry, vice president and director of communications at Magpies & Peacocks, vouched for Gabriel’s integrity, saying, “R’Bonney is one of the most humble, authentic and nicest people you will ever meet.”

She added, “We’ve watched her train beyond measure for Miss Texas, Miss USA and Miss Universe (in awe that she was crowned for all three) while working with us. She has stayed grounded the whole time. We are immensely proud of this bright, intelligent young woman and can’t wait to watch her amazing future ahead.”

The Miss Universe Organization responded to the allegations in a January 16 statement, saying, “The false rigging allegations are absurd and distract from the incredible milestones our organization and the delegates experienced this weekend.

Instead of focusing on unfounded statements, we will continue to shine a light on global women’s empowerment, inclusiveness, diversity, and transformational leadership.”

Valerie Curren

Isn’t that “winner” Actually a man??? Amazing that That detail isn’t addressed in how Rigging a Women’s beauty contest for a man in “drag” isn’t also at issue!

pgroup2

You’re being annoyingly picky over minutiae.

 😂  😍 

Valerie Curren

well given presumed hormone treatments the dude might be a micro-P-word (at best), giving a new meaning to minutiae LOL

TheseTruths

Isn’t that “winner” Actually a man???

I kept thinking that too. They’re usually so “proud” of such “accomplishments,” but are running from it when there might be scandal involved.

Valerie Curren

No doubt!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Wait – the WINNER is TRANS, too?

The new owner is TRANS – that is known.

If the new WINNER is TRANS, then YES – rigged – although not in the usual way – more like by institutional influence. Like North Korean votes.

Valerie Curren

I believe that I was mistaken in thinking that the person I saw in that twit world video was the Winner when It was the tranny owner of Miss Universe…My Mistake–Oops!

Thanks for the link!

Valerie Curren

I didn’t catch that the owner is also “Trans”…inmates are running the asylum!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The way I remember it, we were seeing stories about the OWNER being trans just before the event. But they were headlined things like “Miss Universe is Trans.”

So after the event, people thought the winner was trans.

Valerie Curren

If the winner is the person in the twit world video shared here previously then it appeared to be, AND especially Sounded Like, a man! yuck

Valerie Curren

Per the link shared by BarkerJim above the person in that video was the owner Not the winner…

michaelh

Opinion: The Racism of High Crime Rates
By Monty J. Bennett – Publisher
Jan 22, 2023
https://dallasexpress.com/opinion/opinion-the-racism-of-high-crime-rates/

High crime rates are racist. The prevalence of violent crime and the failure of our institutions and elected leaders to combat it is, simply put, racist. I do not believe there can be any other conclusion when the victims of crime are disproportionately blacks and Hispanics, and when recent data shows that trend is only increasing.

The more crime there is, the greater the discrimination there is against blacks and Hispanics. More crime means more misery in black and brown communities – the more difficult it is for people to live, work, better themselves, and get ahead. So why is increasing crime, which disproportionately impacts our black and brown communities, tolerated?

Of the largest 25 cities in this country, why can’t Dallas have the lowest per capita crime rate? By definition, one city has to have the lowest per capita rate …why can’t it be Dallas? Are we not smart enough? Are we not committed enough? Do we not care enough? Are we too racist? Where is the will to change this and why isn’t it defining every aspect of our local government’s pursuits?

In my opinion, whites that tolerate high crime rates are also racist. Black and brown communities suffer day after day, week after week, and there is no real action. How can this failure be seen otherwise? Blacks don’t like high crime rates. Hispanics don’t like high crime rates. But somehow, it’s not racist when whites are o.k. with high crime rates? How’s that?

We need to stop preaching to our friends in the black and brown communities and start listening to them. We should stop imposing white views onto them about crime and its roots. What they want is what they say they want. And what they say they want is low crime, great schools, and the opportunity to experience the American dream that so many others have been able to experience.

. . . MORE . . .

“Let’s stop the racist acceptance of crime. Let’s transform this city for everyone. Let’s stop the racism.”

Gail Combs

Pure BAFFLEGAB!

 Dallas Mayor Eric Johnson is a DEMOCRAT. Look at DEMOCRAT POLICIES and you will find it is not ‘White” racism it is DEMOCRAT racism and has been since Johnson said

“I’ll have them ni..ers voting Democratic for the next two hundred years. [Said to two governors regarding the Civil Rights Act of 1964, according to then-Air Force One steward Robert MacMillan]”

― Lyndon B. Johnson

LBJ’s Great Society DESTROYED the Black family, the Black community and the Black culture… ALL BY DESIGN.

Valerie Curren

Absolutely!

TradeBait2

Yet, many love and stay in that cocoon. Sad.

pgroup2

Well, it does have monthly welfare checks. So there’s that.

Brave and Free

 What they want is what they say they want. And what they say they want is low crime, great schools, and the opportunity to experience the American dream that so many others have been able to experience.”

Well They should stop voting democommies into office then, why didn’t they vote for PDJT ? He would be addressing all of these problems.

phoenixrising37

via https://t.me/s/sv_lavrov

Deliveries of offensive weapons to the Kyiv regime will lead to a global catastrophe.

If Washington and NATO countries supply weapons that will be used to strike civilian cities and attempt to seize our territories, as they threaten, this will lead to retaliatory measures using more powerful weapons.

Members of Congress, deputies of the Bundestag, the National Assembly of France and other European parliaments must realize their responsibility to humanity.

With their decisions, Washington and Brussels are leading the world to a terrible war: to a completely different military action than today, when strikes are carried out exclusively on the military and critical infrastructure used by the Kiev regime.

Given the technological superiority of Russian weapons, foreign politicians making such decisions need to understand that this could end in a global tragedy that will destroy their countries.

Arguments that the nuclear powers have not previously used weapons of mass destruction in local conflicts are untenable. Because these states did not face a situation where there was a threat to the security of their citizens and the territorial integrity of the country.

TradeBait2

Precipice…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The price of having a pedophile TRAITOR as commander in chief.

michaelh

This is a GREAT question, that goes beyond restoring classic cars . . .

Will McCarthy Confront America’s White Collar Crime Wave?
Cases where con artists are held accountable for automotive restoration fraud are few and far between.
By David Kamioner
January 21, 2023
https://amgreatness.com/2023/01/21/will-mccarthy-confront-americas-white-collar-crime-wave/

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Aubergine

Ok, I have been patient (well past my normal ability), I have been waiting, but now it is

TIME FOR TRUMP TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT THE STROKE POKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The fucking thing killed Diamond.

One of his greatest supporters. One of the best voices for our side. A light in the darkness.

If he doesn’t speak up now….well, then something is WRONG.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/01/want-america-wake-pay-attention-something-aint-right-silk-describes-sister-diamond-died-suddenly-kitchen-video/

Maybe Silk right in his face will be enough. He had to sit and listen to this. If he couldn’t hear it, he is not who I thought he was.

kalbokalbs

Y U P !

The Masters of Global Reset, ARE steadfastly pushing mRNA Injections.

  1. Initially get two jabs. Get a booster. Another booster. Monthly booster…
  2. Injections combined – flu PLUS Covidiot Booster. Bivalant. Tri…
  3. Now mRNA injections for livestock.

Trump MUST call this shit out, for what it is. D E P O P on a global scale..

^^^ THIS IS America First. ^^^

^^^ THIS IS Humanity First. ^^^

mRNA Injections Must be stopped.

If mRNA Injections are NOT stopped, we are all fucked. Including PureBloods.

Aubergine

AGREED.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

It may need to be ALL injections, until we understand what’s going on.

This new paper (Chinese, but can be duplicated) shows that even a simple RBD vaccine caused immune tolerance in mice.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2589004222017515

What this means is not certain. It could mean that ANY vaccine is no good for this stuff.

TradeBait2

Every day, multiple times per day, stories such as these that never existed before.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/01/35-year-old-middle-school-coach-teacher-drops-dead-front-class-suffering-heart-attack/

Aubergine

I know. Sickening. And Trump’s silence is becoming DEAFENING.

kalbokalbs

Guess there is a Trump Rally or some sort of shindig, in SC this month. Yea, running out of days.

Hoping, but not optimistic, Trump will mention, BOTH Diamond AND link her death to mRNA Injections.

  • Sure bet, Diamond will be mentioned.
  • Less than 50/50, Trump will call out the poisonous mRNA Injections.
para59r

Diamond strongly alludes to it.
MTG is going to get her committee to look into all of it.
He’s going to have to begin some sort of pivot. He should of taken Bannon’s advice many months ago to talk about how it had been meant for seniors and unfortunately first responders. His most defensible position besides not making it mandatory. Like it or not, it’s going to be a campaign issue and he will get asked about it much.

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pgroup2

Asked about it isn’t the worst. Having protests in front of his rally venues is.

Those protests will ‘have legs’ and thus cannot be easily poo-poo’d by Always Trumpers.

mollypitcher5

The truth would work….he assumed that the medical community would never ever create a deadly concoction and call it a vaccine.
Also that the medical community wouldn’t spread hysteria over something that wasn’t a pandemic.
And that his own medical “experts” wouldn’t deceive him about his worthy goal of a warp speed vaccine protection. He was duped, imo

Now is the time for him to speak up

kalbokalbs

Get ahead of the coming narrative blaming him, Trump.

Better to be on offense, shaping the narrative.

Playing defense, with a hostile Pravda News AND Big Tech will NOT work. IMO.

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Aubergine

Yeah. Heavy sigh…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

We’re near a tipping point, IMO, due to the science, which is going to return blame to the disease itself when it’s done bashing all the vaccines. It may be there is NO safe vaccine for this stuff.

Fauci and the communists did this to us.

Biological weapons treaties should have meaning.

Government should not make money on pharma investments.

Valerie Curren

Fauci & cronies made the Covid bioweapon so they could inflict on us the much more dangerous Bio-Weapon jabs!

They cannot wiggle out from those Facts!

Linda

I agree, Aubergine. What especially makes me sick about this whole thing is wondering if she took the shot because Trump seemed to trust it.

Aubergine

Well, of course she did!

That’s the point. Otherwise skeptical people would have taken it because he okayed it. He’s gotta come clean.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Trump took it, too, and I think he’s had boosters!

Aubergine

I know. Sad.

Linda

That just blows my mind. He had COVID, so he had the BEST immunity already. Taking all those shots just flushed it down the toilet and who knows what else it did to him.

TheseTruths

If he doesn’t speak up now…

It depends on what the defnition of “now” is. People are starting to demand he make a statement. I will give him every benefit of the doubt, more than any politician I have ever known of, and more than most people I’ve known in my life, because I believe he loves this country, because of what he has done and continues to do and the sacrifices he had made, and because there are always factors that I (we) am not aware of. If you look at his face in the video where Silk was talking about his funding the memorial service, you will see the weight of it all. I believe he will do the right thing, and I give him all the leeway he needs. That’s just me. I know some have other views.

mollypitcher5

they are poisoning people, and killing them.
My guy had a stroke 2 weeks ago. Hadn’t been “right” since he stupidly agreed to the jab and a booster last year.
He survived with mild impairment but subsequent other issues holding back recovery.

TheseTruths

I’m so sorry! 🙏

mollypitcher5

Thanks TT…me too, he is too. He told the attending Dr he thinks the jab is to blame. Got that deer in the headlights look and mumbled something…whatever

Gail Combs

It is not hopeless.

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The Wellness Company has some detox supplements. Dr. McCullough is the Chief Scientific Officer there.
https://www.twc.health/collections/detox

Dr. Peter McCullough dropping bombs…
1101 athlete ‘sudden deaths’ since 2021…

January 5, 2023

If you or your loved ones took the shot, 𝗽𝗹𝗲𝗮𝘀𝗲 𝗴𝗼 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗗-𝗱𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗿 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗿𝗼𝗽𝗼𝗻𝗶𝗻 𝗹𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗹𝘀 𝘁𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗯𝘆 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗱𝗼𝗰𝘁𝗼𝗿 to look for evidence of heart muscle damage or blood clots. 

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So about $500 to make sure your heart is ok and you are not looking at blood clots.

kalbokalbs

So sorry to read this Molly. Positive thoughts for both of ya.

mollypitcher5

thank you K, nice to hear

nikkichico7

I’m so sorry Molly … 😔

Aubergine

Oh no! I am so, so, sorry.

RDS

Oh, how awful, I’m so sorry.
Please ask him to get on something like the FLCCC protocol and get the tests that Gail Combs listed in the thread.
I’m not an MD, but is would appear that if he has mild impairment, things can still work out.
NO MORE JABS! (And IMO, that means ANY jab.)

michaelh

Articles talking about “Conservatism in Crisis” or “The failure of Conservatism”

Basically, the premise is that Conservatism is either on the ropes or is caught in the hopeless quicksand of infighting and bickering.

In many cases, these are media narratives, propped up by wishful thinking by the left.

But the other aspect is that conservatism seems to be a huge mess these days with many different players vying for influence.

It’s time that we called this mess out for what it is.

Conservatism Inc. has been an unmitigated disaster and failure for the conservative movement and for America.

Conservatism Inc. has been subjected to elite capture by the whig class and the do-nothing class.

It has been bought off by big donors with their own objectives and ideologies. This includes opinion writers, conservative newsletters, conservative media, conservative think tanks, and conservative lobbyists.

Does conservative mean anything anymore? To ordinary people, yes – but to Conservative Inc., no. The underlying principle of Conservative Inc is who is greasing their palms today.

Trump has appealed directly to the people, bypassing the kingmakers of Conservatism Inc. Most deliciously, making Bill Kristol expose himself as a sniveling buffoon.

The Weekly Standard went down in flames, and it was GLORIOUS.

Is conservatism in crisis? Not so much as Conservatism, Inc. is in crisis.

What it comes down to, is the Big Con is over. The people are waking up and shaking up.

Conservatism Inc. is dying. Conservatism Inc. will soon be dead. Long live conservatism. Hat tip El Rushbo.

pgroup2

Bill Kristol … a sniveling buffoon

And that’s on his good days …

michaelh

Need more of this. If they’re going to weaponize Cosplay against American Society, we should fight back on their own terms.

‘No Outfit Makes Me a Cat’: Mom in Cat Get-Up Protests Drag-Wearing School Board Member, Threatens to Sue
BY MICHAEL WING
JANUARY 19, 2023
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/no-outfit-makes-me-a-cat-mom-in-cat-get-up-protests-drag-wearing-school-board-member-threatens-to-sue_4943834.html

Last December, Arizona mom Lindsey Graham went viral for crashing a school board meeting dressed in a cat costume—complete with ears, whiskers, and tail.

Donning leopard spots, Graham approached the mic and expressed outrage over a male school board member’s being allowed to dress as a woman while still keeping his position.

She accused board members of failing their “one job” by “forcing [children] to participate in their lie” in denial of not just truth, but basic biology.

“No tail, whiskers, or outfit makes me a cat,” she said, nor does any “lipstick, high heels, or long hair” make the man in question, Paul Bixler, 72, a woman.

The board in question is Liberty Elementary District, located in Buckeye. The Epoch Times reached out to the school district for comment yet they did not respond in time for publishing.

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cl_iuAyrmZP/

RAC

Excellent way to demonstrate her point.

pgroup2

72???

What is it about old age that some males just plain lose their fricking minds?

Dementia? Alzheimer’s? Late activation of the stupid gene?

nikkichico7

A secret lifetime of depravity.

phoenixrising37

Comment lifted from Bernhard’s article yesterday at MoA …

Call me cynical, but with Russia pressing on Bakhmut, and the capture of the city almost inevitable (resulting in the loss or capture of thousands of Ukrainian press ganged soldiers)… I’m fully expecting a ‘chemical attack.’
A chemical attack blamed on the Russians of course. Ukraine would have held Bakhmut if ‘those dirty Russians hadn’t of cheated and resorted to banned weapons of mass destruction.’ The ‘brave defenders of Bakhmut’ will be martyrs. Zelensky will decry the barbarism of Putin, and demand the West do something. The West, already whipped into a frenzy (not to mention more than a few comments about Russia must not use Chemical Weapons from NATO talking heads), must be seen to act.
We’ve seen it done before in Syria and other places. NATO will have no problems gassing Ukrainian soldiers to score points in the narrative. Much better than the alternate optics of thousands of Ukrainians being captured.
I really hope I’m wrong about this, because if it does happen, it will mark a serious escalation from the West who will have a casus bellli to send in ‘Peace Keepers’ (direct intervention).”

pgroup2

Dig up Colin’s corpse to deliver a reprise of his UN speech. With CGI, it’s doable.

phoenixrising37

https://t.me/sv_lavrov/5784

translation: Lesson for the Ukrainian media: not everything yellow and blue means support for Ukraine

kalbokalbs

Gotta wait for it… 55 seconds.

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nikkichico7

Amen‼️ Wonderful Carl thank you and God bless you

duchess01
duchess01

BE MY VOICE

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duchess01

PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD

Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow, that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ.

AMEN.

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duchess01

PLEASE PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER

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TheseTruths

Without reading the article yet, yes! Yes, they are.

Gail Combs

The USA has not had capitalism for over 100 years. Instead we have corporatism…. Corporate-Government cooperation… Fascism or what ever other words you want to use to descripe a Corporate Oligarchy run government.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I’ve called it “crony capitalism” because that combines two terms as many people misuse them. (A lot of people I know who believe in laissez-faire capitalism HATE it when I do that; I’m sullying the term Capitalism. But if the only thing worth calling capitalism is the pure laissez faire type, what’s the point of the phrase “laissez faire capitalism”?) I then try to draw the distinction between that and actual capitalism, unfortunately usually with no success.

phoenixrising37
scott467

The printed lyrics on the start screen almost reminded me of Danny Boy.

phoenixrising37

you’re right!

scott467

I was looking for Eva Cassidy’s performance of Danny Boy to post, but came across this a cappella solo by Sinéad O’Connor from 1993.

This song always gets me, and I know it’s supposed to, but I can’t figure out how it works every time, no matter how many times I hear it 😂

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scott467

Karl isn’t letting Clott Adams off the hook so easy 😂

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The Worm Has Turned

Clott Adams has apparently recanted — well, sort of.

Note the quote though: “The anti-vaxxers clearly won.”
Naw, he hasn’t recanted.  He’s still calling the ones who “won” by pejoratives, intentionally-so.

I argue that he’s just pissed off that he may be fucked and there’s nothing he can do about it, that the VSAFE data which the CDC deliberately refused to release until they were sued (showing a seven percent serious adverse event rate, which incidentally matches roughly with what Rasmussen polled at and therefore can’t be called “doctored”) only catches the immediate bad things, so it therefore must understate the harms by some amount since that which hasn’t happened yet is obviously unknowable and the premise of having a one-in-14 or worse Sword of Damocles hanging over your head tends to produce a crap-ton of anxiety and is certainly not implicated in promoting deep, restorative sleep.

One who goes to the gallows while calling the person who caught him by pejorative labels instead of contritely admitting “I did an evil thing, those who caught me did a righteous thing, for my evil act I deserve just punishment and accept it humbly, realizing that all I have left is to supplicate myself before St. Peter” deserve nothing but permanent derision.

They’re not admitting anything except that they were caught and are pissed off that they were caught and thus can no longer hide behind obfuscation and bullshit.

Wake me up when any of these people actually exhibit something that could reasonably be called contrition.  I have an entire list of said people who were formerly in my orbit that I wouldn’t spit on if they were on fire.

NOT ONE PERSON HAS APPROACHED ME AND ACTUALLY APOLOGIZED, AND SCOTT IS CERTAINLY NOT THE FIRST.

Scott could have instead apologized for the “anti-vaxxer” pejorative and publicly listed every person who he blocked for same while unblocking them and asking (but not expecting) forgiveness.  I know very few people who refused the jab and viewed their decision as anything other than a risk:benefit calculation which, by the own determination and metric, fell on the “more risk than benefit” side. 

As it turned out by the data even from the coroner in NYC or the CDC themselves only the very old AND seriously morbid — their risk of death from infection was approximately five percent — had any possibility of benefit outweighing harm.

Calling someone a name because their calculation differs from yours when neither of you can conclusively prove your calculation is correct for any individual case is malicious — every time, without exception, period.
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scott467

“Calling someone a name because their calculation differs from yours when neither of you can conclusively prove your calculation is correct for any individual case is malicious — every time, without exception, period.”

_______________

We can conclusively be sure that trying to vaccinate the entire human population, with government (e.g. Fauxi) and Big Pharma standing to make 100s of billions of dollars, with an untested liquid of unknown content and origin, and knowing anything at all about the history of vaccine injuries, and without anything remotely approaching informed consent, all rushed under the auspices of a government-created emergency, was dangerous AF, at best.

And if the government was behind the effort — which it was — we know “at best” wasn’t even in the same area code.

This had “bad” written all over it down to the molecular level.

Valerie Curren

Bravo!

TheseTruths

I had the same impression as Karl.

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nikkichico7
nikkichico7

It snowed today. It’s a nice mild mannered snow ❄️ dresses up the bare tree limbs with a little bling.

The file was too big to post from my photo album.

The first snow fall is the best.

nikkichico7

the picture won’t show I took the link away. That’s all folks. Nuts

nikkichico7
kalbokalbs

A third try soon…? 🙂

nikkichico7

I’d like to but but my system for this device the photo I saved to share is too big to post … 😔☹️ … it’s neat though. I can post it via the cloud on this device but would rather not.
‘Thanks for asking Kal 🙂🤚

phoenixrising37

Hundreds of high-ranking military officers sacked in Hungary

FTA

” The ministry says this move served the aim to modernise the army and pave the way to the rise of a new officer generation. Media reports about more than a hundred generals, colonels and other high-ranking officers sent away. Meanwhile, the former defence secretary and the Democratic Coalition’s MP, Ágnes Vadai, counted around 170 officers on Thursday. She added the officers sent away were pro-NATO. Based on information she acquired from the ministry, the final number can reach one thousand, telex.hu wrote. Political loyalty will be the deciding factor in the Hungarian Defence Forces, she highlighted. The ministry did not answer the questions of Telex.

https://dailynewshungary.com/hundreds-of-high-ranking-military-officers-sacked-in-hungary/

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This is the beginning of something I’ve predicted. This war will DESTROY NATO if they persist. NATO overexpansion was a SABOTAGE of NATO and the “Atlantic” stuff. If NATO doesn’t correct, it will be corrected for them, by European states exiting the crazy train.

kalbokalbs

This war will DESTROY NATO if they persist.

^^^ NATO destroyed, huge step towards Peace. Followed by the EU disintegrating.

phoenixrising37

I agree …

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. Bad outcomes ahead, if they don’t get out of the trap.

NATO could be a force for peace by simply learning balance. Learning the value of the Monroe Doctrine, and American founding principles – AGAIN.

Truly learning when to NOT get involved.

I can still see a place for NATO, but it has to be smart, funded mostly by Europe, and working mostly to insure peace.

Why is CIA leading NATO into error? Totally wrong.

If NATO doesn’t correct itself, it will be corrected, and likely destroyed.

Gail Combs

I want it destroyed. It has been corrupt from the get-go.

kalbokalbs

NATO – Zero peaceful purpose.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

There were arguable advantages in the beginning (other than the cold war) to keep a lid on Euro-crazy, but it looks like the cost was getting infected with the Euro-crazy ourselves.

phoenixrising37

agree!

phoenixrising37

I have believed all during this past 11 months that the reason RF’s SMO was moving was to bring this about … along with the decline of US Petro Dollar …

It appears to be accomplishing all three goals.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Russia is doing the smart thing, not only for Russian interest, but for EVERYBODY’S interest. They HAD to do it.

It’s not a surprise that China and India and the rest of BRICS+ are backing Russia.

America should have forced a restructuring of NATO long ago. Failure to do that – failure to reform the “Atlantic military political complex” – led to this insanity.

People like SOROS manipulating NATO via the Atlantic Council – how many red flags should that have thrown???!!! YIKES!

scott467

Allowing an international tyrant like Soros to intentionally throw entire nations and continents into chaos was and remains an intentional decision by every nation state on the planet.

Because any nation state on the planet could take him out in under 24 hours.

That one scuzzbag could be allowed to hold billions of people hostage to his whims for the past 60+ years is a crime against humanity.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Soros keeps enough palms greased on both sides of the aisles (remember all the UniParty R’s taking Soros bucks) that America doesn’t do something about him, and his malevolent NGOs.

Hell – the Dems USE and FUND his NGOs.

phoenixrising37

It’s my understanding that the US controls NATO…

‘course Neocons control US Gov’t along with most ‘western gov’ts…

so … I guess we are saying basically the same thing … well, almost 😉

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Likely so. The neocons and neolibs are just trouble. They’re the ones driving NATO error, IMO. I personally think the neolibs are worse, because they’re more responsive to the moralistic Jazis, who are really driving this thing.

The US was “controlling” NATO as long as the US paid for it. It was a very dysfunctional relationship. Europe was like a flirty, cheaty wife who loved to stay married as long as hubs was paying for her fancy ride, expensive clothes, and nights out on the town.

All the hangers-on and fake friends of the political complex [neocons, neolibs, Atlantic bunch] screamed and screamed that the marriage had to endure, when Trump came along and said “WTF!”, but it was all about the money, the power, and the good time – and the fact that Europe knew she would go poor and live the HO life if the gravy train ended.

Trump made Europe live up to her balanced budget, so she went along with a plan by the fake friends to screw her energy lover (Russia) by raiding his interests. The lover said “Sorry, bitch – not happening.” She screamed and screamed for hubby to “do something” – she’s so threatened by this “brute” who stood up to her games. LOL.

The American people are not going along with this shit. Neither are smart European states that can see reality. Russia is looking better all the time. Europe is looking GANGSTA HO, and America is looking like CHUMP HUBS.

Russia stood up for Russians in Ukraine. America won’t even stand up for Americans in America!

Bluntly, America is not in control of America. It’s a damn globalist corporate/political syndicate in charge. Something has to give.

Remember what they did to Trump. None of this would be happening if Trump was in charge. He actually understood the problems of NATO and Ukraine. That’s why the neocons and neolibs all wanted him gone. The “Ukraine impeachment” had a reason – to preserve the NATO fantasies and fallacies, and keep people from reforming it.

The whole thing is becoming clear now.

Gail Combs

NATO should NEVER HAVE HAD HIGH RANKING NAZIS RUNNING IT!

Nazi war criminals became high ranking commanders in NATO after WW2

….The most famous of them was Adolf Heusinger, chief of the Operationsabteilung from 1940-1944.

He was actually Hitler’s chief of staff and helped plan the Nazi’s invasions of Poland, Norway, Denmark, and France. He was promoted to colonel on August 1, 1940 and became chief of the Operationsabteilung in October 1940, making him number three in the Army planning hierarchy.

After the war, this German war criminal, the man who helped Hitler plan and execute his invasion of neighboring countries which directly led to the deaths of millions of people, was not even put on trial, quite contrary he was allowed to take over the newly established West German army, the “Bundeswehr”.

In 1961, Heusinger was made the Chairman of the NATO Military Committee (essentially he was NATO’s chief of staff). He served in that capacity until 1964….

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scott467

‘RF’ and ‘SMO’ decoder please!

phoenixrising37

RF = Russian Federation

SMO = Special Military Operation

scott467

Thank you! 😁

cthulhu

RF = Russian Federation
SMO = Special Military Operation (what Russia is doing in Ukraine)

phoenixrising37

Thanks!

scott467

Thank you! 👍

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

SMO = invasion of ethnic Russian rebel territory in Ukraine, with the intent to liberate it from attack by insane Ukie Nazis on the Jazi payroll.

“Go TEXAS!”  😉 

Typical failure of any side to tell the blunt truth in war.

“Special Military Operation”. You know – like we had with Mexico.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican%E2%80%93American_War

Because “rule-based order” is a sham when the rules don’t actually serve the people.

scott467

Thank you! I’m well aware of Russia’s ‘special military operation’ designation, I just haven’t spent enough time reading about it for the acronyms to become second nature. 👍

I’m on acronym overload most of the time as it is, and I don’t text, so I never became an acronymophile 😁

Valerie Curren

I Have to Obsessively translate acronyms in my head. I don’t text either (thankfully have No cell phone!!!) & really hate how speech is being dumbed down (& spelling) by that phenomenon…I’m a Deliberate Dinosaur 🙂

nikkichico7

is there an ovaltine decoder ring in the house❓

phoenixrising37

that should have included ‘slowly’ …

… was moving slowly was to bring this about

pgroup2

Aren’t you the optimistic one.  😆  🤔 

phoenixrising37

I have seen this mentioned on at least 3 occasions …

The Neocons will have Biden threaten to gut SS and Medicare … if

US Congress doesn’t vote to raise the debt ceiling.

The uniparty has supported this action for some time, so …

scott467

“The Neocons will have Biden threaten to gut SS and Medicare …”

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They can’t do that.

Algore said it was in a lock-box.

Lock.

Box.

He was very insistent.

Practically robotic.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Screw Biden. Screw DNC. Screw the lying liars of the Demmocommunist Party.

Gail Combs

IT is in a a LOCKED BOX. SS and the other DEBT gets paid before the rest of the schiff. See my other comment.

para59r

Just an expanded version of “We will have to cut your police and fire” if you don’t approve the new taxes/bond thing.

GOP can properly counter with a list of other things they can cut.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

EXACTLY!!!

Gail Combs

“….The Neocons will have Biden threaten to gut SS and Medicare ….”

They pulled that schiff before and it don’t float.

Govt shut down and Social Security
I looked at this during OH!Bummer

Report: Shutdown of the Federal Government: Causes, Processes, and Effect
by Clinton T. Brass, Analyst in Government Organization and Management. 

He states: 

….If interim or full-year appropriations are not enacted into law, the time interval when agency appropriations are not enacted is referred to as a “funding gap.”5 A funding gap also may occur any time a CR expires and another CR (or regular appropriations bill) is not enacted immediately thereafter. When a funding gap occurs, the federal government begins a “shutdown” of the affected activities, including the furlough of non-emergency personnel and curtailment of agency activities and services. Programs that are funded by laws other than annual appropriations acts (e.g., entitlements like Social Security) also may be affected by a funding gap, if program execution relies on activities that receive annually appropriated funding…..

So it looks like nonessential bureaucrats get their pay stopped and perhaps the military. But what about Social Security??? 

𝗙𝗲𝗱𝗲𝗿𝗮𝗹 𝗗𝗲𝗯𝘁 𝘄𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗴𝗲𝘁 𝗽𝗮𝗶𝗱 𝘀𝗶𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝗶𝘁 𝗶𝘀 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗱𝗲𝗽𝗲𝗻𝗱 𝗼𝗻 “𝗮𝗽𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗽𝗿𝗶𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻𝘀” 𝗯𝘂𝘁 𝗶𝘀 𝗮𝗻 𝗮𝗹𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗱𝘆 “𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘇𝗲𝗱” 𝗱𝗲𝗯𝘁.

So what is part of the “Federal Debt”???? 
Federal Debt — 2011
From old URL: http://www.fms.treas.gov/bulletin/b2011_2fd.doc

Lists the <i>”information on agency securities and on investments of Federal Government accounts in Federal securities”</i> in table form. TABLE FD-3. lists the Government Account Series in millions of dollars for 2010 

TABLE FD-3 

Airport and Airway Trust Fund ……………………… 7,045 

Deposit Insurance Fund ……………………………….37,441 

Employees Life Insurance Fund ……………………. 37,605 

Exchange Stabili-zation Fund ………………………. 20,436 

Federal Disability Insurance Trust Fund.….. 187,222 

Federal employees retirement funds…………….. 785,988 

Federal Hospital Insurance Trust Fund ………… 279,475 

Federal Housing Administration ……………………. 4,194 

Fed.Old-Age & Survivors Ins. Trust Fund… 2,399,111 

Fed. Savings & Loan Corp., Resolution Fund………. 3,388 

Fed. Supplementary Medical Ins. Trust Fund…….. 70,982 

Highway Trust Fund ………………………………….. 24,455 

National Service Life Insurance Fund ……………….. 8,161 

Postal Service Fund …………………………………….. 1,142 

Railroad Retirement Account ……………………………. 506 

Unemployment Trust Fund …………………………… 18,703 

Other ……………………………………………………. 759,426

(reorganized to fit vertical instead of horizontal G.C.) 

𝗦𝗼 𝗶𝘁 𝗹𝗼𝗼𝗸𝘀 𝗹𝗶𝗸𝗲 𝗦𝗼𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹 𝗦𝗲𝗰𝘂𝗿𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗶𝘀 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗮𝗻 “𝗮𝗽𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗽𝗿𝗶𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻” 𝗯𝘂𝘁 𝗮 𝗗𝗘𝗕𝗧 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗺𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝗯𝗲 𝗽𝗮𝗶𝗱 𝗲𝘀𝗽𝗲𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝘀𝗶𝗻𝗰𝗲 𝗹𝗮𝘄𝘀 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝗔𝗟𝗥𝗘𝗔𝗗𝗬 𝗯𝗲𝗲𝗻 𝗽𝗮𝘀𝘀𝗲𝗱 𝗴𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗿𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗦𝗼𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹 𝗦𝗲𝗰𝘂𝗿𝗶𝘁𝘆.The only way to STOP the Social Security pay checks is to declare the government employees cutting the checks “non-emergency personnel” 

I wonder if that also includes the people cutting Congressmen, Senator and staffer checks?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

There are things that could be done to drive the cost of medical care down. It wouldn’t hurt the patient but the armies of paper pushing clerks at your doctor’s office might have to learn to code…a different kind of coding.

That would “cut Medicare” without it being a bad thing. Alas, this sort of reform wouldn’t work fast enough for the current episode of “hair on fire.”

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Finally remembered where I read a good suggestion:

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=231949

RF121

nikkichico7

Yup, seriously repulsive too

litenmaus

Today the Daily Mail reports that Jeff Zients will replace Ronald Klein as Bidens new Chief of Staff….

A reminder of Jeff Zients involvement in the Covid-19 scam

Zients oversaw the $86 Million free Mask program

Zients implemented the door to door “volunteer canvassers” who could vaccinate on the spot…

Zients: “So as part of our efforts, trusted messengers may go door-to-door….One shot at a time, one person at a time.”

And Zients was responsible for the Government fear porn surrounding the “Omicron” virus.

December 17, 2021
At the same time, the White House COVID crisis response team is driving the fearmongering around Omicron at staggering levels of propaganda and fear porn. During a public broadcast of the White House position, COVID response coordinator Jeff Zients is again claiming that Omicron will kill millions of Americans if rapid action is not taken to shut down human activity.

Zients claims today that a “severe winter of illness and death” awaits anyone who does not adhere to the political propaganda they are pushing. This is the same coordinated fear messaging Joe Biden was pushing yesterday.  Obviously, the White House has made the decision to double down on the fear porn.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yuck!!!

para59r

There was another article out there also adding in that Zients made lots of money during COVID. Didn’t have specifics so won’t bother posting it, but likely someone will look into it and post it.

Valerie Curren

Repulsive, repugnant, “reptile”  😡 

litenmaus

Afternoon Valerie….In my opinion you’re being too kind…..

Valerie Curren

LOL!!!!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

“reptile”

Hey, now, watch it!

Valerie Curren

not Your reptile…nothing but Love for Darwin 😉

RDS

So apparently Mr. Klain wasn’t quite as ** brutal / efficient ** as the DeepState / “President” Biden’s handlers were looking for — so they ousted Klain and are bringing in “The Enforcer” (Zients).

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

They pronounce it like “science”. Plenty of jokes incoming.

“Follow the Zients!”

cthulhu

Not that we’re suspicious or anything….

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scott467

It’s all urine 👍

[I was gonna say “It’s all van der Sloot”, but I didn’t think anyone would get the reference 😁]

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Gail Combs

From the Urinalists…

RF121

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

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holly08

Damar Hamlin at the Bills game. 🤔

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Valerie Curren

Is That Actually Damar? You can never see the face. Is it possible theater???

holly08

I don’t think it’s really him or they don’t want us to think it’s him for some reason because it looks ridiculous.

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TheseTruths

Do you think anyone who knows Damar saw that guy at the game and/or interacted with him?

holly08

I really don’t know what to think. Yesterday I read he had a long road to recovery, needed oxygen, having his heart monitored. In the clip of him walking he looked quite spry.

Why is his face covered. Why so secretive. Everyone is rooting for him and supporting him. Why no wave to his fans. It’s just strange.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

They’re controlling the message. “Damar is OK. It’s just a heart attack. They happen. We’re getting defibrillators out as fast as we can, just like vents! We all won!”

holly08

Thank you. That makes sense. I would like something to make sense dammit! 🤯

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I hear you. BTW – I looked through hundreds of DAMAR face pics, and there is NO PICTURE with the same facial expression. A few are close, but none like it. The facial hair and features are right, but no facial expression like what he’s showing now.

scott467

They’ll have new NFL shoulder pads with built-in defibrillators for all players in the 2023-2024 season 👍 😁

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I think they’re controlling all access to him. They do NOT want anybody saying anything to him. Somebody yelling “You beat the jab, bro!” and him smiling back.

kalbokalbs

This. Total control.

Who sees Hamlin, speaks to Hamlin… Hamlin likely told, STFU.

Lotsa money being shoveled Hamlin’s way.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

He got the “silver or lead” talk!

Brave and Free

Just my opinion on this. If anyone else saw the Bills game, does anyone think it was a setup for them to lose?
A couple of questionable flags at the beginning of the game set the tone for the game.

They most certainly don’t want to be talking about DH any longer than they have to. If they keep winning the jab talk continues if they lose its all forgotten.

The NFL and the DS definitely don’t want the DH talk to continue do they?

Robert Baker

I saw the entire game. I did not notice anything unusual about the call of the game. It would be extremely difficult to throw a NFL game. Bengals were in control pretty much throughout the game. The CBS broadcast made mention of Hamlin several times during the game. They did not seem to be participating in an attempt to change the subject involving Hamlin.

TradeBait2

I watched it as well and I agree. The Bengals are simply the better team. They were starting to prove that before the Hamlin medical issue on the field the last time they played.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Very interesting. I think you’re right. Last thing they want is for them to be in the spotlight.

scott467

“Somebody yelling “You beat the jab, bro!” and him smiling back.”

_______________

That’s it, that’s the slogan we need, a variation on don’t taze me, bro!

Don’t jab me, bro! 🤣

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

What do you think? He looked right at everybody.

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Valerie Curren

No clue here. I thought he was all dressed in red, with a hood up, something over his face, head down, surrounded by security. Fox just showed “Hamlin” all bundled up, as described above, through the snow for like 1.5 seconds…who knows…body double on your pic?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I don’t think it’s a double. I think it’s CONTROL. He signed his life away. He does whatever he’s told.

Valerie Curren

interesting

Valerie Curren

That man looks way too old to be the son of the woman that the twit video claimed was his mother…

RAC
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Traitor Joe!!!

RAC

Sorry, I just did thick fingers on my email address, just so as you know I’m not a pesky Russian.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup! Please don’t go for 3 in a row! 😉

Gail Combs

I don’t worry about pesky Russians, it is pesky CIA agents and CCP agents I worry about!

RAC

Oh good grief I’ve done it again, give up going to bed.

TheseTruths

I just finished watching the Charlie Ward video. Thank you, Gail. It SCREAMS Con Man.

Deplorable Patriot
kalbokalbs

^^^ Enlightening information folks.

Elize

My husband shared this with me. I’d never seen his guy, good stuff. He has quite a few songs on his channel.

“All My Exes CHANGED THEIR SEXES” https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/svg/1f602.svg | Buddy Brown | Truck Sessions – YouTube

“We need a REDNECK in the White House” | NEW SONG!! | Buddy Brown | Truck Sessions – YouTube

TheseTruths

That first title…😅

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yeah! LOL!!!

pgroup2

I’ve decided that the only obvious way out of their ‘classified documents’ mess is to assassinate the president. From their point of view, there’s no downside.

They want him out – this is a very effective method.

They want to stop any criticism of Kamala being president – this will accomplish that.

They don’t want to admit doing wrong – this obviates the need for an explanation.

They don’t want him (or anybody else) talking – dead men tell no tales and nobody wants to be the next corpse.

They want to end the 2020 election histrionics – this will do that.

They would appreciate his legacy being something other than what it is going to be – this will make him a martyr (which greatly benefits the enemies of America).

But the best part (from their point of view) – it will be the deplorable domestic terrorists that did the deed.

Prove me wrong.

[I understand if this comment is deleted by admin]

RF121

All they have to do is declare him medically incapable. Proof has already been laid out there. The only one in the way is Jill. The doc issue just becomes their way of putting more pressure. Then they threaten prosecution of family. Easy enough to remove him. They just have to time it right for the election run. If any one gets whacked it is Heels Up as she in theory would be the candidate for 2024. And no one wants that.

Gail Combs

BUT only after she nominates Hillary as VP…

RF121

Could be but as Obama is running things, not likely.

Gail Combs

It doesn’t evenhave to be an assassination just Adult Sudden Death Syndrome..

At this point they just want the MESS to go away with as little news coverage as possible.

RF121

Sounds pretty good.

RF121

For all of you religious types, there maybe a denomination addressed here.

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Valerie Curren

Cute 🙂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Love it!!!