“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
This epiphany-celebrating DISTRUST AND VERIFY BY SECRET METHODS MONDAY Open Thread is VERY OPEN.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on. Keep it civil. Rules much like the Old Treehouse, except of course Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged. A couple of other important things to consider. This here link….
….contains some general guidelines for things that are really, really not kosher to post here.
Also consider Wheatie’s Rules (as amended by SteveInCO):
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
No shooting at the nuclear warheads.
Remember – this is a free speech zone. Barring the few minor things that can get this site closed down, you ain’t gonna get banned.
And once the Gab commenting layer is here – BOOM.
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The current plan for Dear MAGA threads is to switch to a format where people have ONE NIGHT A WEEK that they take care of the thread. For example, Wheatie will put up the SATURDAY thread on FRIDAY NIGHT.
Monday – Wolf
Tuesday – Wolf
Wednesday – Wolf
Thursday – Wolf
Friday – Wolf
Saturday – Wheatie
Sunday – ThinkThinkThink
If anybody else would be interested in being a Dear MAGA author one night a week, feel free to let me know.
Remember that our greatest gift to President Trump is PRAYER!
WE ARE PRAYING FOR YOU!
And let us pray YET AGAIN for an end to the slaughter of the unborn, particularly when they have almost made it safe and sound into this world, and are being cruelly cut down just before birth by those who profit on their deaths.
Let us further pray that INFANTICIDE never again appears on this planet as an acceptable practice!
Finally, a word about the FEATURED IMAGE (the USS Ronald Reagan) and the name of the day (DISTRUST AND VERIFY BY SECRET METHODS MONDAY).
Here is an interesting fact of disinformation which again comes back to the entire PRINCIPLE of chaff – that chaff FEEDS the Occam’s razor of military machinery (the brains of the missile), by touching logic OUTSIDE ITS PROGRAMMING (the coolness of Occam intersecting with Turing in the region of Eckert’s Law is NOT TO BE DENIED, folks…)
ANY CHAFF SCENARIO PRESENTED TO A TRUSTING AUDIENCE WILL HAVE MORE APPARENT REALITY THAN A DISTRUSTFUL SCENARIO WHICH MORE CLOSELY ALIGNS WITH FACTS WITHHELD FROM THAT AUDIENCE.
This is simply how “magic” works. But now I want you to ask you WHO tells you this:
TRUST BUT VERIFY
I will tell you who tells you that. A magician who is so skilled in what they are doing, that they know exactly how you will verify, and have prepared for it.
I offer a new solution.
DISTRUST AND KEEP VERIFICATION METHODS HIDDEN
-Wolf Moon, The Q Tree
The implications for history – that we did not do this – or at least publicly went along with the opposite – are ASTOUNDING. To me, this is MASSIVE validation of my theory of Stefan Halper, and how he intersects two critical points in our nation’s history – the NIXON and REAGAN administrations. The fact that he and the forces behind him TOOK OUT NIXON but NOT REAGAN is one of the most fascinating chapters in geopolitics EVER. I do not have the complete set of answers about WHY things happened the way they did, but I can see that WHAT HAPPENED vis-a-vis the forces of the left and the countering strategies of both Nixon and Reagan opens up that entire portion of the game to a FRESH analysis.
……in which I exposed and reviled the left’s advancement of a false meme of “turmoil” and “chaos” in the White House….
…..which I believe is an utter LIE….
….and which I believe is part of a larger and darker SCHEME….
…..I still felt troubled.
Yes, I has spoken TRUTH to power. I had stood up against what I felt was evil. I had WARNED the other side that I knew what they were doing.
And yet, it was not enough. Something was MISSING.
But I did not know what was missing.
Then, as the COMMENTS began flowing into my post, I realized EXACTLY what was missing!
Almost everybody who responded, mentioned that they had been, were, or would be PRAYING for President Trump.
PRAYER.
That was the answer!
Do you remember when President Trump appeared at the 2017 National Prayer Breakfast?
President Trump mentioned that there were FIVE WORDS he heard CONSTANTLY in his travels around the country, and even the world.
“I. AM. PRAYING. FOR. YOU.”
That’s it.
“I am praying for you.” And other variations of this simple message.
Go to around 4:40 in the video to hear the lead-up to the quote, or just read this portion of the transcript:
But most importantly today, I want to thank the American people. Your faith and prayers have sustained me and inspired me through some very, very tough times. All around America, I have met amazing people whose words of worship and encouragement have been a constant source of strength. What I hear most often as I travel the country are five words that never, ever fail to touch my heart. That’s: “I am praying for you.” I hear it so often — “I am praying for you, Mr. President.” (Applause.)
President Donald J. Trump, National Prayer Breakfast, February 2, 2017
I have heard President Trump mention this point about THE FIVE WORDS at rallies as well, and I am a POWERFUL believer in this idea – in the power of our prayers to sustain our President.
And to not only sustain him, but to protect him.
Thus, I am asking you to be part of a PRAYER NARRATIVE – the idea that our prayers will overcome this “chaos narrative” – and not only that – that they will strengthen and PROTECT President Trump from harm.
Who is with me? If you are, then simply make sure to put our President in your prayers on a regular basis, and ESPECIALLY now.
And now, something extra special, to “seal the deal”.
While looking for the video of the “five words” speech, I found this wonderful photo diary from the 2017 Prayer Breakfast.
This particular attendee and his family met and took their photos with MANY familiar faces – you will LOVE this video – I guarantee. There are even a few wonderful surprises.
So there you have it. The PRAYER NARRATIVE.
Thank you, God bless you all, God bless President Trump, and God Bless America.
This SPECIAL (D5 + 6) = (D13 – 2) TRUMP THE FUTURE TUESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN (and very special) – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
Say what you want, comment on what other people said, comment on people’s comments. Keep it civil. Treehouse rules, but expect lots of QAnon.
No illegalities, please! We’re Trumping the Future here, so it’s no time to be stuck in the past with Silly Stalinist Pretend Realities!
Today (Tuesday, December 11) is the tenth day of Advent.
This is a FASCINATING and (in my opinion) MUST-WATCH interview with one of the photographers embedded in the Trump campaign – Gene Ho.
My thanks to our local poster judyw for alerting me to this video on the daily thread.
Gene followed Trump for TWO YEARS, right up to the election victory in 2016. He got hired simply by showing up and working Trump’s small initial gatherings, until Corey Lewandowski took notice and started using Gene. It’s a great story, straight out of Trump-world. Trump spots go-getters who spot other go-getters. And Gene worked very hard, as he describes. The second year – 2016 – was extremely tough.
Gene has published a book of his Trump photography, which (COUGH, COUGH) would make a great stocking-stuffer or New Years gift for ANY real Deplorable (see below). The book is actually biblically based – perfect for Christmas. Gene is a strong and very enthusiastic Christian.
The greatest value of this interview, to me, is that Gene is able to articulate something one of Trump’s drivers once said in a small radio snippet which I loved – that those who see Trump up close, know that he REALLY IS a “regular guy” – a man of the people.
https://youtu.be/mIdvapGFXjA
For Q followers, the relevant Q stuff starts around 16:30, and lasts quite a while. I think that Gene’s very rational view of Q will be welcomed by everybody here – and it’s very interesting. Gene distinguishes “belief” in Q – which he likens to believing that the Dallas Cowboys will win a game next weekend – from the idea of religious faith, which one trusts at a much deeper level. It’s an interesting idea, and Gene explains it well.
Gene is *extremely* professional – he does not attribute anything to Trump that he does not utterly believe with his whole heart is there, and even deflects questioning on some of the “fringier” Q-movement thinking in a few places where one does not hear things coming explicitly from Trump. Gene is clearly a very sharp AND very nice guy, who is not interested in anything but the Truth with a capital T.
Anyway, all of this is absolutely fascinating and reassuring to hear from Gene, and I think everyone will benefit by taking the time to listen to this interview.
The featured image in this article shows precisely WHY I refused to dissociate myself from the Treehouse. It is also my challenge to each and every person who posts here, to listen to Q, and listen to Sundance, and NOT to voices of division.
This conversation is exemplary. Let’s look at it in full. The thread appears to now be locked – a good idea.
Let me start by saying I mean no disrespect to those individuals who enjoy the riddles posted by an unknown entity who writes under the nom de plume “Q”. However, the time has come where aspects within the well promoted “Q narrative” are now a risk and must be addressed. Please bear with me…. The baseline – In the aggregate the “Q narrative” has been: there’s a coordinated effort by President Trump and officials to expose, and confront, corrupt entities within the “deep state.” The essential element within the narrative, as pushed by the “Q” entity, is that President Trump is aware of, and coordinating, some larger plan.
Hopefully that brief baseline summary is not controversial, and most would agree that’s been the structural and purposeful intent of the overall message.
Structurally, and factually, this claim is false. However, that’s not the problem. Within this theory, that seems to have garnered a considerable following, there is now a danger to the office of the president; and however well-intentioned the theory initially might have been, it urgently needs to stop being spread.
As you have seen recently, yesterday, President Trump is forcefully repeating that he has not had any contact with current Acting Attorney General Matt Whitaker. Part of the reason President Trump has to do this is because this false narrative, the “Q Theory”, has been drum-beaten by well-intentioned supporters. Many of those supporters, genuinely good people, have believed this coordinated theory. However, it is false.
Conversely, all of President Trump’s opposition is trying to attach President Trump to the actions and intents of his new Acting Attorney General. The false “Q” narrative helps them.
Currently the Trump opposition, writ large, would love nothing more than to frame the President over taking executive action that puts the Mueller investigation at risk; and thereby attaches him to some form of obstruction. If people keep pushing the “Q theory” of President Trump orchestrating moves; that narrative is adverse to his actual interests.
That false narrative actually impedes Whitaker from diminishing Mueller as a sword of Damocles over the office of the president.
The opposition to the office of the president desire to have the office of Attorney General in a position of compromise, and subsequent recusal. This was the reason why there was such a push by that same opposition to force the recusal of AG Jeff Sessions; whereby the DOJ is then hamstrung in the ability of the AG to defend the executive.
So long as opposition can rely on, and manipulate, embed (and likely corrupt) DOJ and FBI officials toward their goals, things are in their favor. If the opposition can no longer work around the AG, their efforts at removing President Trump are more difficult.
If the AAG is both: (A) independent from the White House; and (B) simultaneously looking out for the genuine interests of the executive [note: not mutually exclusive] and confronting historic corrupt behavior, those within the entrenched DC system have a much harder time trying to frame the President out of office.
President Trump’s political and administrative opposition didn’t care about the “Q narrative” (which is false), because it was of no consequence for a bunch of people to mistakenly think that President Trump and Jeff Sessions were coordinating (they weren’t) an effort against the deep state (never happening) while they had the AG recused. However, with a fully empowered AG that same message (which is false) will be leveraged to oppose any adverse action by Matthew Whitaker; and demand his recusal.
Can you see how the dynamic shifts?
Does that make sense?
This is how the “Q Narrative” now becomes a liability.
I’ve not been confrontational to the game of the “Q riddles” until recently. To each his own; and most of the stuff is harmless and the community seems to have fun with it. However, once I saw what was predictably going to happen; and strongly sensing Sessions was about to get dispatched; and against a mountain of research, and suspicions, I have gone through about a genuine network of information; I saw the warning signs and began trying to stop the spread of the “Q” virus – at least on this website.
So my message to those loosely connected/tenuously labeled, “former intelligence officials”, ie. those behind the Q message board, is to please stop with the “trust the plan” stuff.
If you need to modify the messaging because you are financially dependent on keeping the game alive, then so be it…. Same request applies to the downstream benefactors… But please modify the narrative to a more factual and substantive one.
[If it helps, soon there will be a reality-based origin for you to modify the riddles]
The key point here is for all of you to please stop pushing a narrative that President Trump is somehow coordinating or influencing an investigative or confrontational outcome. He isn’t; he never has been; and he will not be in the future. However, that narrative, false though it always has been, is now a genuine problem. I am making this request politely and hopefully you can digest the problem as the landscape has changed.
President Trump is spending an inordinate amount of time reaffirming the reality that he has no connection to anything AG Matthew Whitaker has done in the past; or might do in the future.
If “Q riddle originators” and “Q riddle followers” keep pushing this “trust the plan” narrative, in any form – but specifically as it relates to the involvement of the President (which is false), you will actually be hurting the administration; and the larger goal of those who are factually trying to work internally within the corrupt systems to bring the needed change within the institutions.
President Trump will need to confirm a new U.S. Attorney General (Sessions replacement) and likely a new DAG (Rosenstein replacement), as well as a new FBI Director and Deputy in the near future (Wray and Bowditch). All of them have been Mueller enablers [see here] And, with the FL and AZ senate race results tenuous, there may be a diminishing margin for controversy (aggressive, actual swamp draining candidates) in the nomination process.
Please, and thank you.
At first it may seem that Sundance has asked us very nicely to deny what many of us believe – or at least to not talk about it on CTH. But what do we believe? Let me state it in a kind of general form, so we are not being evasive by a Snopesism of some kind. We believe:
There is some kind of plan to “drain the swamp”
Our VSGPOTUS is at least partially informed of it
We are asked to “trust this plan”
These would be the “THREE PILLARS” of the Q Cult, if I may call ourselves that. There is a plan. President Trump knows something about it. We can trust it.
I personally would be a liar if I said I didn’t believe all three parts of this. Our President would be an IDIOT if this wasn’t true. And Trump is not an idiot. It may be politically convenient to pretend it’s not true, but I don’t do that. In fact, I believe some stuff that makes a lot of people want to kill me, discredit me, shut me up, or all of the above. THAT stuff is hard. Believing our President has a plan to drain the swamp? That’s a no-brainer.
Now – I can certainly go on the Treehouse and not talk about The Three Pillars of the Q Cult, or even HINT at them. But I can’t drop that belief HERE, or anywhere else, including Twitter.
If THAT is OK with Sundance, then I am still a Treeper. But that is not my decision.
Now – is it possible to hold the “Pillars of Q” and not allege that President Trump is a criminal who is at the mercy of Bob Mueller? Particularly on issues of AAG Whitaker? Well, I think so. Because I believe the following:
President Trump is very, very smart
President Trump is always very careful about obeying THE LAW
The Plan is mostly if not almost totally not of Trump’s design
The Plan is mostly of military and military legal origin
The Plan is thoroughly reviewed by lawyers as an ongoing process
The Plan is reactive, changeable, ongoing, and intelligent
The Plan adapts to President Trump’s desires and suggestions (he IS CiC)
President Trump trusts The Plan and adapts to the advice of its designers
The Plan is 100% LEGAL and AUTHORIZED
Anything Illegal has been carefully SCRUBBED from The Plan
Trump is being carefully protected from illegalities or pitfalls
If President Trump says something in a tweet, it is TRUE
If President Trump says something in a tweet, it was part of The Plan
President Trump’s tweets pass by “Q” precisely for this reason
President Trump not knowing things, to obey the law, is part of The Plan
Absolutely NONE of this falls outside NORMAL ORGANIZATIONAL ETHICS
This is exactly how President Obama was protected from illegalities MOST OF THE TIME, but NOT ALWAYS, and THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE
The Plan deals with stuff that is so far above most people’s pay grades, there are some parts that are known by more ALIENS than HUMANS
Sorry – I had to throw that in to demonstrate no limits on secrecy
Does everybody see where I’m going with this?
Now, some people will say I’m just constructing a paranoid fantasy here. Well, I’m sorry, but….
THIS IS HOW I GO ON VACATION.
My wife plays the part of the military, and my dog plays the part of the aliens. OK – to be honest, sometimes my WIFE is the VSGPOTUS and I’M the military. And sometimes the dog… well, you get the point.
Are we clear? We are saying Trump is not an idiot, he’s an honest guy, and he plans stuff. He HIRES people who plan stuff. Our government has people who plan stuff. Some of it is secret, but it is all on the up-and-up under TRUMP.
Am I still a Treeper? Hell yes.
Because I TELL THE TRUTH. And the TRUTH HAS NO AGENDA.
The End.
W Even my damn dog is Q. Because we’re honest, well-intended, and we plan.
Right before Gab was shut down by the Obamanazis, I saw a post that I wanted to share. It is somewhat Q-related.
Here it is. I wanted to save it, and share it with those who might heed the warning.
Guys, even though there is zero reason for you to believe me, and I will not provide proof of my next statement, I implore you all to believe me: A lifelong close friend of the family is a very high level person in the Dept. of Defense. He reached out to us with a warning that we did not even ask for. He said that Q is indeed real. The whole military “White Hats” is real. That Trump and his allies know damn well that the Caravan was coordinated to arrive right before the elections, and that Soros and his Communist allies both here and abroad are responsible for it. They know that the mail bombs were a complete hoax and who is really behind it. Even today’s synagogue shooter is a false flag too.
Now here is where we get to why I am really making this post. The most important thing he told us is that right before the elections there will be massive riots in many cities all across America. He is 99% sure that these riots will be triggered because of high level arrests finally being made. Namely one John Podesta for starters. So I am telling you all this because I am imploring you to prepare now before it is too late. Make damn sure you have plenty of ammo for every weapon you have. Go stock up on food, water, gasoline and buy some handheld radios or vehicle mounted CB radios. You cannot depend on cell phones during the conflict that is coming. World War 3 may not have been officially declared yet, but we all know damn well it has already begun. Good luck and Godspeed patriots. Make your ancestors proud.
Here is an actual image of the post:
The link, if Gab ever comes back up, is this: https://gab.com/TexasVet/posts/40051171
That is it. Take it for what you will.
I believe it, for my own reasons that I will not share.
Here is what happened to Gab today, in images of posts. This is AFTER Pay-Pal cut Gab loose. The PayPal service loss was survivable. The next was not. It was enough to bring Gab down.
We begin with my last real post on Gab. I saved it for the irony.
Note that there were only two likes. Normally this would have had many more, but you can only push people so far, before they just go into survival mode, and stop trusting people who might sympathize with “the other side”. Yes. Those who think shutting down Gab was a good move will live to see days which make them ponder what might have happened if Gab had NOT been shut down.
How did Vonnegut put it? Ah, yes. “So it goes.”
The Obamanazis know exactly what they’re doing. They are DIVIDING America. People on Gab are looking at what is happening, and they know that over half of American Jews have made their bed with the Obamanazi socialists. They see the Obamanazis come for Gab, and they know that their homes, their jobs, and their futures are not far behind.
Socialism just does this. It doesn’t matter what BRAND of socialism. The GROUPS themselves change. The ORDER in which they are sacrificed, betrayed, or demonized changes. The story does not. All fall before SOCIALISM.
Here we go – the fall of Gab.
First – after PayPal – there was optimism:
But then the Obamanazis struck again:
More details:
Backing up the server…..
Some momentary assurance that Gab will return…..
This post was actually made earlier in the day, but it makes even more sense now. I think this may have been after PayPal.
It’s sad that we have to announce such things to deny plausibility to the murderous, cowardly, evil Obamanazis, but that’s just the way they roll.
And let’s go back even further….
Well, my fellow Americans.
Remember when there were people who agreed with this idea?
“I may not agree with what you said, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”
Remember that?
Not everybody means it. But some of us do.
The time has come to defend Freedom. Buckle up. It’s gonna get bumpy.
W
