Lies, Damn Lies, and Chronologistics

Seeking the Truth About Joe Biden’s Two Marriages

What follows is not exactly what I thought I would write, originally. I didn’t know where, exactly, this would go. I’m not even sure now, that it went where it went. It’s almost too unbelievable. We may be looking at so many lies, the truth may never be found.

Or maybe it will be found, and very soon, and it will be EXTRAORDINARY.

Buckle up. We are now in uncharted territory.


1 – The Cheaters

Something really stinks about Joe Biden. I knew there was something strange about his relationship with Jill, after his first wife’s death in a car accident. I couldn’t really put my finger on it, until I read a piece by the guy who was Jill’s first husband. He claimed that Jill had an AFFAIR with Biden that broke up their marriage.


LINK: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8635281/Jill-Biden-cheated-husband-Joe-ex-claims.html

ARCHIVE: https://archive.fo/BOn8i


That almost settled things, but I was bothered by the fact that the first husband seemed so POSITIVE toward Biden, despite him breaking up their marriage. That is not entirely impossible – but still, there was something strange about it that just bothered me.

Now, the thing is, the dates leave open a LOT of possibilities – including the possibility that the affair between Jill and Joe starting BEFORE Biden’s first wife Neilia died. And THAT gets ugly.

But I had no idea HOW ugly.

SO – I was already suspicious that things were weird.

But THEN I saw an allegation that Joe and Jill got involved EVEN EARLIER.

https://twitter.com/Johnheretohelp/status/1411074811615449091

(Edit – tweet deleted – but captured by Wayback Machine…..)

Say WHAAAAT?

Sounds like rampant nasty speculation to me, but still, things ARE weird in HAIR-SNIFFER PARADISE.

Actually, I got to THAT tweet through an even more shocking tweet – a reply to it.

Let’s just save that image…..

In fact, let’s save that tweet, too…..

And then there was ANOTHER one in the thread.

https://twitter.com/thisemptychair/status/1411077208643452929

THAT is a much better picture!

Heck – let’s save that, too.

Replies to this tweet include assertions that this was taken when Jill was divorced and Neilia was gone, as well as that it was photoshopped.

Seems like an insoluble mess, right?


2 – Finding The Photo

Well, the truth is, this picture appears in a German online magazine, and was allegedly posted by one of Jill’s granddaughters on Twitter.

https://www.gala.de/stars/news/first-family-der-usa–das-fotoalbum-der-familie-biden_22350110-22349236.html

Nach dem tragischen Verlust seiner Frau und Tochter 1972 lernte Senator Joe Biden seine zukünftige Frau die Englischlehrerin Jill Jacobs bei einem Blind Date kennen. Die beiden heirateten am 17. Juni 1977 in New York, 1981 kam die gemeinsame Tochter Ashley zur Welt.
Enkelin Naomi twitterte dieses schöne Bild der beiden damals frisch Verliebten mit den Worten: “Zusammen sind die beiden weit gekommen”.

Translated:

After the tragic loss of his wife and daughter in 1972, Senator Joe Biden met his future wife, English teacher Jill Jacobs, on a blind date. The two married in New York on June 17, 1977, and their daughter Ashley was born in 1981.
Granddaughter Naomi tweeted this beautiful picture of the two newly in love with the words: “Together, the two have come a long way”.

Naomi is identified here:

https://twitter.com/ThomasStPeter77/status/1411430907425210372

Let’s just save that tweet…..

Let’s just save that picture:

Looks like a nice family. Just sayin’.

Her name is Naomi Biden. Examples:

Turns out that she’s on Twitter as (at)NaomiBiden, and she’s a chip off the old block.

Remember that I told you that the reason that the ONE “fraud state” exception to THIS:

……was because PENNSYLVANIA needed to LOOK GOOD on vaccinations?

There you go. Straight from Biden’s granddaughter’s mouth. When THE PARTY needs you to look good, other party members make sure it happens.

Whether it’s REAL or not.

Anyway, check out Naomi Biden’s Twitter timeline. Very CCP. Errr, I mean ACP.

So I kept digging through the standard Democrat Communist party line, and THERE IT WAS!

Let’s just save that…..

AH! We’re finally THERE. We’ve shown that the photo is AUTHORITATIVE – meaning that it was “blessed” by being released by a Biden granddaughter. In a world of disinformation as one of the most powerful weapons of the LEFT, I don’t even trust this photo to be real when released by a Biden family member. But it is AUTHORITATIVE. It was released by them AS IF it was real, to make people believe it was real.

And where THAT goes from there, we will find out.


3 – How Old Is Jill In That Photo?

This is the gazillion dollar question.

We had some BETS MADE in a prior thread.

I challenged people to guess the ages of Jill and Joe in that photo, avoiding any reliance on externals – just their knowledge of humans, such as their own kids, neighbors, relatives, etc.

The exact comment was HERE: https://www.theqtree.com/2021/07/03/2021%c2%b707%c2%b703-joe-biden-didnt-win-daily-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-760607

You’re welcome to go look at the answers and generate statistics. My rough estimate is that most people figured she was in her late teens. The OUTLYING answers were early middle teens (13-15) and 20s. Most opinions seemed to be in the 16-19 range.

High school girl. That is our “group vision stereo consensus”.

This starts to become problematic.


4 – The Timelines Collide

Jill Biden was born June 3, 1951.

LINK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Biden

ARCHIVE: https://archive.fo/ZquKp

She was married to Bill Stevenson on February 7, 1970, at the age of 18, 4 months shy of 19.

Thus, the picture SEEMS to be from BEFORE she married Bill Stevenson. It is extremely unlikely that the picture is from AFTER her marriage to Bill Stevenson, which ENDED in separation in October 1974 and civil divorce in May 1975.

The Bidens allege that they met during that separation period, in March of 1975. They were married on June 17, 1977.

March of 1975 would have made Jill Biden 23 years old, 3 months shy of 24 years old.

That is at the extreme of her potential age in that picture, based on the reckonings of our group. It is an extreme minority position, with more opinions at the OTHER extreme.

But let’s go from there to the Bill Stevenson story – that goes as follows.

According to Bill, Jill met Joe through Bill’s political support for Joe Biden.

Here is his chronology listed in the Daily Mail:


  • Joe Biden and his wife Jill  had an affair that broke up her first marriage, her ex-husband told DailyMail.com in an exclusive interview
  • Bill Stevenson says that their story about how the presidential candidate fell in love with Jill after a blind date is made up
  • The way the Bidens tell their story, Joe saw a picture of Jill in March 1975 — after her marriage crashed — and they went on a date and have been together since 
  • But Stevenson claims he and his then wife met Biden in 1972, when they worked on then-New Castle County Councilman Biden’s first campaign for the Senate 
  • At the time Biden was married to his first wife Neilia who died with their daughter Naomi in a car crash between the election and Biden taking his Senate seat 
  • ‘Jill and I sat in the Bidens’ kitchen,’ Stevenson said. ‘We worked on his campaign’
  • Stevenson said he first suspected Biden and Jill were having an affair in August 1974; He was then 26, Jill was 23 and Joe was 31 
  • ‘One of her best friends told me she thought Joe and Jill were getting a little too close,’ he said
  • That October he got confirmation when a man informed him Biden was driving his wife’s car and the two of them got into a fender bender  
  • Stevenson said: ‘I asked Jill to leave the house, which she did… I considered Joe a friend. I’m not surprised he fell in love with Jill’

Now, I’m going to be blunt and early here – I no longer trust THIS story, either. I think it’s a “Clinton special” – a substitute scandal, like Cuomo’s kissing scandal, which is used to deflate the “he murdered thousands of old people on purpose for politics” scandal.

But let’s play along. After all, if I’m right, and it’s an “alibi” of some kind, it will be close to the truth.

Stevenson claims that Jill and Joe met through HIM (convenient) in 1972. THAT would make Jill Biden roughly 21 years old.

Leaving Jill’s age aside, THAT makes a lot of sense. Now what is VERY cool is that we HAVE a picture of Joe Biden campaigning in 1972, thanks to the Daily Mail.

You can see Neilia – she’s going to die in a car accident in December of that year, AFTER Joe Biden WINS his Senate seat in November but BEFORE he goes to Washington. Their 1-year-old daughter Naomi will die with her.

Now it may just be the clothes, but I would almost swear that Joe Biden looks a few years older in this photo, than he does in the “Jill on his lap” photo.

But all we have done at this point, really, is to introduce doubts.

But NOW, I’m going to introduce even more doubt. What if somebody came up with a PICTURE of Jill Biden during the early 1970s?

And before I forget to mention it, what if that picture comes up in a story about Bill Stevenson having a lurid affair of his own which allegedly led to multiple murders? And what if the first murder was soon after Joe Biden married his ex, Jill?

Watch out – this whole thing gets WEIRD very fast.

Yes – that is Jill and Bill Stevenson. Jill’s style here looks very 1972-1974.

Let’s look at her more closely. First 2X magnification.

Now even closer – 4X.

This looks like a 19, 20, or 21-year-old girl to me. That would make her a sophomore, junior, or senior in college. Perfect fit – read Jill’s biography in Wikipedia. This matches both her biography and the framework of the Stevenson story.

However, she is noticeably OLDER than the picture of the girl on Biden’s lap.

What’s interesting to me, is that I knew girls at that time, who were AGED as in the “lap girl photo”, but wore fashions like the girl in this photo, which styles were popular at the time. Same hairstyle and top – bandana around the neck – but these girls were younger – high-school aged – facially very much like the girl in the lap photo, or just a bit older.

Thus, it seems entirely possible to me, that the photo on Joe Biden’s lap was taken while Jill was in high school, possibly babysitting for the Bidens. Maybe she had a prom, or a dance, and was like a member of the family at that point.

I could insert some classic movie poster about this, but you know what I’m thinking.

But then let’s just set that all aside now, and see the context of that OTHER weird story from the Daily Mail.

Which newspaper may be following the angle that I’m thinking.


5 – The Timelines Always Get Them

MORE at the link….including videos of Stevenson….telling his story….

LINK: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9772651/Jill-Bidens-husband-Bill-Stevenson-says-affair-Kathie-Durst.html

ARCHIVE: https://archive.fo/7rz2G


Now – just check out this “memorable scene” from Stevenson…..via the article…..

Stevenson alleges that the next day, Robert showed up at the apartment ‘pounding on the door’ and that he slammed a wad of rolled up cash in Kathie’s face. 

That’s a bit of a shocker there, but before we go on, ask what better class of theories might fit that memory.

Now go on.

Ten days later, she vanished.

He thinks Robert – who has long been accused of murdering his wife but has never been charged over it – was driven to kill her after discovering their affair.

‘This is something that has to be righted. I was together with them and he went crazy. I feel like I’m the missing link in this case,’ he said.

Stevenson said he watched Kathie ‘grow up into a beautiful young woman’ after their families became friends when they were kids.

‘She was that cool little sister – I watched her grow up to be a beautiful young woman.’

He says in 1974, he and Jill hosted Kathie and Robert Durst at their home.

He says Jill and Kathie ‘hit it off’. ‘Both very smart, they’re similar people. At that age. It was hard not to hit it off.

‘I remember him talking to himself in my garage. To me it was like, “oh my god.”‘

Years later, once his marriage to Jill had broken up and after Jill and Joe had gotten married, Kathie started confiding in Stevenson, he says.

‘She said I’m having a real problem with Robert and I’m scared to death.

She said he was being violent with her. At that point, she couldn’t trust anybody around her that knew Robert.

‘I don’t know why she picked me but I’m glad she did.

‘But I do feel that I let her down. I look back at those last two months and go, “what could I have done differently.”

He says he visited Kathie five times between 1981 and 1982. They stayed at Kathie’s apartment in New York City and it was during that time that it became romantic.

I think the DM may be thinking the same thing I am. They have THIS as a sidebar to what I just quoted.


TIMELINE OF BIDEN AND DURST MARRIAGES

  • 1970: Jill and Bill marry
  • 1973: Kathie and Robert Durst marry
  • 1974: Bill says he and Jill hosted Robert and Kathie Durst at their home
  • 1974/1975: Jill and Bill separate
  • 1977: Jill and Joe marry
  • 1982: Kathie Durst disappears

Is there a connection? That might lead to “lives lost”? Read that article.

Can you guess the word I’m thinking?

I strongly suspect that SEVERAL stories are falling apart. It’s not just about dementia now.

W

PS – check out the “record-correcting troll comments” on the DM articles. They seem professional to me.


References

Daily Mail Article on Jill Biden’s Affair with Joe Biden:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8635281/Jill-Biden-cheated-husband-Joe-ex-claims.html

Archive of Affair Article:

https://archive.fo/BOn8i

Daily Mail Article on Jill Biden’s First Marriage Relation To Murder:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9772651/Jill-Bidens-husband-Bill-Stevenson-says-affair-Kathie-Durst.html

Archive of Murder Article:

https://archive.fo/7rz2G

Deconstructing ChiNazi / Iranian / Fake News False Narratives About CoronaVirus and Reconstructing The Truth

Something REALLY stinks in China and Iran, and it’s not just the burning bodies.

The TIMELINES simply don’t add up. They are FALLING APART. And you know it’s REAL because somebody is racing to rescue it.

Facebook is now cracking down on “unapproved” posts about the CoronaVirus.

Yeah, Chinaberg. I can do the math.

There was a point, recently, where I found that I could explain a LOT MORE about COVID-19 by abandoning China’s version of events, and coming up with my own. Part of that was explaining my own SARS-like symptoms, from a definite Corona infection that I picked up in mid-January at an “Iran-connected” meeting. Of course, at THAT time, we knew nothing about Iran.

But how could that be? It doesn’t fit the TIMELINE.

Good thing I stayed out of nursing homes for two weeks, thanks to a 5-day induction period, and having seen the DEADLY GRAPH of COVID morbidity vs. age, but it was close. My friend Suspicious Cat may have saved a few old veterans.

vigilanti semper

I’m still not breathing right, by the way. THAT bugs me. It feels very “SARS”.

My wife and neighbor did well, but my neighbor’s wife was hit pretty hard. I think that she, like me, is an ex-smoker.

But it’s more than personal. Things just don’t add up – and I’m not just talking about the NUMBERS, which are OFF. The numbers are showing too many positives too fast in the wrong countries and specific people – meaning those who generally seem too “helpful” to China and Iran if they caught it.

Bolsonaro? Oh, as soon as I saw that near-hit, I realized that I could WRITE THAT OPERATION. The VECTOR DEFLECTOR on that one – oh – that was “too smart”. Y’all know what I’m sayin’? Oh, that was SLICK. I smell Chinese intelligence ALL OVER that.

No – it’s more than just the numbers.

The Chinese communists and the Iranians – poor victims? No. This doesn’t sniff right. Mass graves in Iran that are the BAD GUYS and not the INNOCENT GOOD GUYS? No. That doesn’t sniff right. Execution-style gunfire recorded by half-hidden phones in China, then disappearing from the Fake News here? No. That doesn’t sniff right.

Young doctors dying and disappearing in China? Hmmmm. Maybe there ARE explanations. Maybe these are the SAME duplicitous ChiComs and the SAME scheming Iranians we’ve always known – SNEAKY – LYING – FAKING – HOAXING – TRICKING – and Fake News is simply helping to sell ONE MORE SOCIALIST / GLOBALIST NARRATIVE.

YES. That’s where I am now. There is a NARRATIVE coming from China, Iran, and the Fake News, and I no longer buy it.

How do we know they weren’t political prisoners from recent uprisings?
With or without death by coronavirus?

I suppose we can thank Rod Rosenstein’s sister, Neutron Nancy, for her early attitude on testing, which OH SO UNFORTUNATELY hid any cases in the United States other than NARRATIVE cases involving cruise ships. And THANK YOU GAIL for that piece of the puzzle, because THAT really helped me see things. They wanted it here. And they wanted it to STICK.

Sorry, this is all bullshit.

And now – NOW – I’m hearing that I’m not the only author here who had a NASTY, NOVEL, RESPIRATORY DISEASE in December or January, where the only reason NOT to think it was probably COVID 19, is the CHINESE / IRANIAN / FAKE NEWS narrative timeline.

SIDEBAR: I am asking all people here who think they may have gotten COVID-19 outside of the Fake News timeline, including those who previously shared information, to please re-post a description of their experience HERE for it to be available to researchers who find this post. The more non-personal details provided, the better.

Wolf Moon 1776

It took ONE OR TWO PEOPLE here to start questioning the ChiCom narrative openly, and all of a sudden – BOOM – many of us who were PRIVATELY questioning it, start questioning it BIGLY and PUBLICLY.

NOW do you see why Mark Chinaberg is having an emergency over at Facebook? They have to shut this stuff down. And they CAN.

That is the beauty of socialist media. Just like China, they can shut it down. Just like 2016, they can support THE HOAX. They have complete control.

Well, too bad, Mark. WE’RE going to discuss it here. We need SKEPTICISM to figure out what’s going on.

SO – I am inviting everybody here to BE HONEST – spill it. What are your thoughts – your speculations – your theories – your questions – your ideas – your inspirations – your absolutes – your certainties – your uncertainties – your fears – your doubts – your revelations – your own experiences – EVERYTHING you think about the CHINESE / IRANIAN / FAKE NEWS narrative surrounding this virus, and what you think is REALLY going on.

Let’s brainstorm this stuff until ChiComs and Fake News Hoaxers are wetting their undies.

SPILL!

W

John Fink and James Coburn discuss case in a scene from the film ‘The Carey Treatment’, 1972. (Photo by Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer/Getty Images)

The Timelines Always Get Them

One of the greatest things I ever learned from Sundance over at The Last Refuge is this:

the timelines always get them

I will keep this simple, so the “aha” is easy to see.
This is my prior article on the conspiracy against Brett Kavanaugh:
Lawfare_Post_Image
Here is a link to said prior post on the conspiracy against Brett Kavanaugh.  You can come back to it – it’s not needed to understand the following, although it helps fill in details.
Now, here is an article about the obscure (in my opinion) Mark Judge book that uses a very interestingly “barely camouflaged” version of Brett Kavanaugh’s name as somebody likely to be assumed to be Dr. Ford’s assailant.  The name was changed to “Bart O’Cavanaugh”, if I remember the spelling correctly.  C or K.
Note that this is not normally an expensive book – but it’s hard to get now, and hence the inflated price.
I will confess making a joke that this “rare book” was “worth something for a reason”.
Mark_Judge_Book
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/09/19/brett-kavanaugh-mark-judge-georgetown-prep-book/1357739002/
The book is listed here as being published in 2005.
2005, you say?  Yes!  2005!
Question!  Where does that fit on the Brett Kavanaugh career TIMELINE?
Glad you asked!
Here is a convenient Wall Street Journal article about – well – just look!
Timeline_Brett_Kavanaugh
https://www.wsj.com/articles/timeline-brett-kavanaughs-rise-to-supreme-court-nominee-1531255425
Allow me to call attention to this part of it:
2005_Brett_Kavanaugh
At this point, if you haven’t, you can go back to that link above to my prior post.
And now, to spell it all out, here is a comment I did on this on The Treehouse.
This was in response to Cari Kelemen (ParteaGirl) saying that she thought this claim was political from the very beginning.


 
Absolutely. And I think the get-go goes WAY BACK.
Look at that Mark Judge book that conflates Kavanaugh’s name with (IMO) somebody else’s crime:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/09/19/brett-kavanaugh-mark-judge-georgetown-prep-book/1357739002/
The year is 2005. This book seems like a loser – the only thing it really seems good for is what it’s doing now. And remember – Hillary and her friends run the publishing industry. That part of the media is VERY Democrat. They use book deals as payoffs ALL THE TIME.
Look at the TIMELINE of Kavanaugh’s career here. Notice what’s going on around 2005?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/timeline-brett-kavanaughs-rise-to-supreme-court-nominee-1531255425
I think that the SEEDS of DISCREDITING HIM were sown in 2005.
THAT explains the NATURE of the LAWYERED UP statements of Judge and others.
The way CIA does a lot of this stuff is by suggestion. So I’m not saying that Judge KNEW at the time what was going on. But he may realize it now, and THAT is useful, just like the REAL PERP is unlikely to counter her story in any meaningful way that removes all doubt.
“Useful guilt keeps people quiet and lets things unfold according to a predictable script.”
An important lawfare principle.
I think this case is NASTY and may be a true conspiracy against Brett Kavanaugh.

 
I have been reminded by fellow Treepers that Dr. Ford is at legal risk if she either testifies OR if the letter is entered as evidence. Aren’t these things making sense now?  Doesn’t CHI-FI / SPY-FI and her rather unorthodox way of “whoops” accidentally making this known, which was “kinds sorta not legally binding”, make sense now?
Indeed, isn’t everything making sense now?
W

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“Bart O’Cavanaugh?  This must be that ‘Fake News’ from the future they told me about.”