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If you have not checked out President Trump’s speech on Venezuela – AND Cuba – AND Nicaragua – AND SOCIALISM in general, which is about to be removed from this hemisphere……

Check it out.

https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/02/18/president-trump-speech-on-venezuela-in-miami/

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michaelh

COMING SOON TO A REALITY NEAR YOU:
Free North Korea Joins the World

http://www.shanghaitimesnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/trump-to-hold-second-summit-with-north-korean-leader-kim-jong-un-1200×800.jpgcomment imagecomment imagecomment image

Linda
Pat Frederick

awwwww…reminds me spring brings the little ones…thanks! I needed that today…we’re expecting snow, sleet, and freezing rain…ugh

Gail Combs

Rosy the goatcomment image
We have three little black ewe lambs smaller than this one in the kitchen hall right now.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7227/7185297491_4aca191c5d_m.jpg
And one black and white spotted ram lamb in the center of the kitchen.
http://www.heartsofthemeadow.com/uploads/3/1/4/3/31431541/1403960711.jpg
He will grow up to look like this:comment image
My sheep are mutts crossed to a Jacob Ram:
The Jacob has FINALLY returned to it’s land of birth after 2,000 years!!!
https://www.breakingisraelnews.com/89318/bible-codes-foretell-special-role-first-israeli-born-jacobs-sheep-2000-years/

amwick

My husband loves lamb….

Gail Combs

My male sheep and goats generally end up in the freezer. However this little guy got neutered Monday so he will be kept as a pet. (Older bottle-fed rams are very dangerous.)
For male lambs an Aussie suggested keeping them until 18 mos to 2 years for the best meat. This is called hogget and is similar to ‘baby beef’ The animal is allowed to complete its rapid (most economical) growth before slaughter. It just doesn’t pay to keep the animal the next couple of years to finish growing, especially on a small farm.

amwick

We rescued a lost goat, it was about 9 months old, and ran away from home. It amazed me how smart Casper was… I could see, if neutered, that they would make a great pet…. We found his owners and managed to get Casper back home… but it was interesting to see him a couple days. He tried to keep our little dog away from my husband,,, so funny!!

Gail Combs

Goats really do make GREAT pets especially for small kids. They only have one set of teeth and a hard pallet in the front of the mouth so a bite does little damage even if they do bite. The are really funny little charracters, and come in all sizes. One of our goats, Ayn was the size of our cat!
The only draw back is they are escape artists but mine always come home for dinner. Also they LOVE rose bushes, berry bushes and anything else a deer would go after. Sheep are the grass eaters.

sallyal

We brought home a baby goat to hang out with the horses. He was not tame. A couple of months later we took the horses to stay on a friend’s 100 acres but we couldn’t catch the goat. He was heartbroken. Just cried and cried. After a week, he climbed up on the hay roll and was going to die of heartbreak. By then he was weak because he had not been eating. We were then able to catch him and took him to join his “herd” of horses. That was 11 years ago. He is still there. Even after our horses came home. He had plenty more to take care of.

amwick

Aww. They are social. The one we found started crying for his brother, that also ran off. The brother heard him and wandered back to the barn. Two little lost goats found!

Marica

Baby Goats!!! My Favorite!!! Thank you Linda!!!

judyw

Days after making it legal to kill babies to the moment of birth, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo proposed to legalize commercial surrogate motherhood.
So while it’s open season on children conceived the natural way, Cuomo supports the artificial conception of children in the laboratory to be gestated for money.
America’s widespread acceptance of surrogacy stands in sharp contrast to the rest of the world. Most European nations ban it. Even countries that had gained reputations as “reproductive tourism” hotspots have moved to limit it or outlaw it altogether, including Mexico, Cambodia, Thailand, and India.
The reason, given in a report by the Center for Social Research in New Delhi, is that “surrogacy degrades a pregnancy to a service and a baby to a product.”
Read More:
https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/new-york-prepares-to-legalize-commercial-surrogacy-as-the-rest-of-the-world

michaelh

Memo to New York State Senators: Commercial Surrogacy Undermines the Child-Parent Relationship
by Jennifer Lahl, CBC President on FEBRUARY 13, 2019
http://www.cbc-network.org/2019/02/new-york-commercial-surrogacy/

michaelh

Why Ben Shapiro Is Dead Wrong To Endorse Surrogacy
Through surrogacy, at the moment of birth, the child loses a relationship with the only parent he or she has ever known. It’s a deep and enduring wound.
By Katy Faust
JANUARY 21, 2019
http://thefederalist.com/2019/01/21/ben-shapiro-dead-wrong-endorse-surrogacy/

michaelh

Update from C-Fam:
C-Fam Having Major Impact at UN

Last week C-Fam organized and chaired a high-level meeting on the family at UN headquarters. Broadcast on the UN web-services, it brought together high-ranking ambassadors and policy experts to talk about making the family the center of UN negotiations and policy making.
In the coming weeks, we are hosting four more panels at UN headquarters.
* March 15 C-Fam and Concerned Women for America are hosting a panel on “putting women and girls back at the center of gender equality policies.” As you know, real women and girls are being overshadowed by the transgender agenda. We want to fix that.
* March 19 we are co-hosting a panel with the Holy See that brings pro-life hero Lila Rose to the UN to talk about how to protect femininity and human dignity. Author Sue Ellen Browder will also speak.
* March 21 also with the Holy See, we are hosting a panel on protecting women and girls with Down Syndrome! U.S. Representative Cathy McMorris Rogers will speak, along with Michelle Sie Whitten of the Global Down Syndrome Foundation.
* March 22 C-Fam and Civil Society for the Family are bringing Dr. Daniela Bandelli and C-Fam’s Stefano Gennarini to talk about surrogacy, the dignity of women, and the rights of the child.
At the same time that all this is going on, C-Fam personnel will be closely advising UN delegations on the document under negotiation at the Commission on the Status of Women, which radicals will try to use to promote abortion, radical sex ed, and the homosexual/transgender agenda.

See for details: https://c-fam.org/event/

Tonawanda

For whatever else has come out of the Catholic Church in the past decades (and most of it was very good – – look at Nicholas Sandman as an example), a much maligned and denounced example of genuine Christianity was Humane Vitae (Of Human Life).
When the transmission of life itself is held in reverence, all of fellow human life is held in proper reverence.
This seems impossibly idealistic/unrealistic for some, but look at the consequences of looking at life that way.

para59r

hrmmm… being a part time conspiracy theorist, makes me wonder if normal parents won’t play with their own genes maybe the state through private proxy and capitalist incentive might do it on their own? Or in laymen’s terms is this some start of a creating a super race? Has to ask only because it’s doable.

Gail Combs

Yes, that is exactly what it is. See my comment down stream.

michaelh

I doubt that the incentives would ever be close enough to reach replacement levels. Surrogacy is still boutique by comparison – but they do seem intent on expanding it.
The irony of “The Handmaid’s Tale” is that the idea of an entire class of women whose entire social function is to carry and birth children, when you consider our currently policy environment, is a social policy championed by the left. Define “projection”.
Surrogacy is only an option to the wealthy. Now, some will object that even middle class people can afford to hire a surrogate; to me this is case in point, an American couple who aren’t at a subsistence level can do this. This kind of disposable income is by definition wealth. The result is that the designer babies are for the wealthy.
Meanwhile, the policies are written broadly to try to discourage people from having children – the wrong kind of people, the deplorables. Social pressure is put on them and methods from economics/wages to easy birth control to abortion to social stigma around large families to minimize reproduction and family size. Of those, abortion is particularly vile, turning human life into a financial transaction, with perverse incentives to promote it.
A large reduction of the deplorable population will not be offset by a small increase in the wealthy elite population.
At the core of all this is the issue of the commodification of the human life. Depending on where the human soul emerges in the human life supply chain, the life has economic value in destroying it, or the life has economic value in essentially breeding it. The life itself is dehumanized in both cases.
Surrogate children are tragically separated from the only mother they ever knew. The epigenetic qualities of the womb are a powerful and poorly understood influence on the infant – the genetic instructions are what they are, but the baby is built from virtually nothing inside a warm familiar womb and as it grows the new life picks up on the characteristics of the human environment in which they are immersed. Just like adopted children who may never had known their birth parents, surrogate children know that there is something off in their world, their own biology tells them that their new parents are not the mother that carried and nurtured them. Their stories are coming out.

para59r

True, while I’d think the gene editors are still going to want to play and the wealthy are likely going to help them along. Meanwhile a super race won’t necessarily be an advocate of having many normal people about. We’re definitely going to be entering a new age. Bold and challenging for all. ‘Learn to code’ might mean more than we know.

GA/FL

THIS WILL ENABLE MODERN-DAY SLAVERY – Baby Production Camps!
H8 these leftist scum!!!!

NebraskaFilly

I don’t support commercializing surrogacy but I cannot agree that it is bad all around. IMO, this is a good thing that has been corrupted and turned into something that has been abused for money. In fact, I thought at one time of being a surrogate. I LOVED BEING PREGNANT! EVERY SINGLE BIT OF IT! It is THE most rewarding, fulfilling experience a woman can ever have, IMO, and I truly feel sorry for women who choose not to have a child. It is a wholly unique experience only possible for women. Why on earth would we choose to ignore or walk away from that most basic privilege and blessing?
So many women have unpleasant pregnancies, with complications and difficulties, whereas my pregnancies were wonderful from beginning to end. Personally, I believe a woman’s mental attitude about pregnancy affects the intensity of those complications and difficulties, over and above any physical issues. Far to many women (and doctors, btw) treat pregnancy as if it were an illness.
I had just a bit of morning sickness with my first – I think I threw up maybe two or three times – for some reason, the one thing I could not eat was Cream of Wheat, which I loved, of course. I bowled on 2 league teams until I was 8 months along, and swam in my parent’s pool and rode horses until right before my son was born. I was back home in 3 days, wearing regular clothes.
My second, I had twinges of morning sickness, but never got sick once. That was the one where the army doctor I was seeing gave me a script for Bendectin, in case I needed it. I happened to read an article in The Enquirer (yes, I know….just listen) about birth defects – I took it in and showed it to the doctor, who, of course, pooh-poohed it. Lo and behold, a couple of years later, Bendectin is removed from the market because of…….wait for it…..birth defects.
Due to the excessive restrictions and the policies at Walter Reed, we chose to try to have my daughter at home, with the assistance of a mid-wife and a registered nurse. We also had a number of people who were going to witness the birth, including a Jesuit Priest. Unfortunately, the cord was around her neck and we had to go to a military hospital – we chose Andrews AFB because they had a mid-wifery program and more flexibility, and the Colonel who was in charge of it, and on-duty that night, happened to be a friend of my mid-wife. Heather was born on a Wednesday and when we went home on Friday, again, I was wearing my regular clothes.
Interesting times and wonderful memories.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Give no quartercomment image
(The picture is off the reverse of a 1901 “Barber” Quarter; named such because the design was by Charles Barber. As was the fashion then (but not much longer), the half dollar was basically the same design, and the dime had the same obverse design, but a different design (a wreath of different common US agricultural crops) for the reverse.
The Barber design was instituted in 1892, and considered so bland it was replaced as soon as it was legal to do so, in late 1916. The coins actually look surprisingly good in uncirculated condition, and not much detail is lost as they wear–something that could not be said for the mercury dime, standing liberty quarter, and walking liberty half that replaced the Barber coins. Barber had intended the coins to wear well and he achieved his design goal.)

Alison

“Wolverinian Empire”
I like the sound of that, WolfMeister 👍👍👍👍
What would we do without our Wolverines 💖💖💖💖
Or our Wolves 💖💖💖💖
Sending a special prayer out tonight to Ed (NYGuy54) that he feels our love and God’s presence. He received some terrific information & suggestions from Qpers that might make a positive difference in his challenge to adjust to the effects of his brain trauma. We love you, Ed.

Sylvia Avery

Praying for NYGuy. Thanks!!!

Marica

Yall– F ink Twitter censored our President AGAIN!
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1098105293001670657?s=20

wheatietoo

Grrr.
I wonder which video that was?

Marica

it was the Carpe video with Lee Greenwood song!!

wheatietoo

Well there was absolutely No Reason to censor that one!
I hope the evil Twitter Overlords get punched back for this!

Marica

That’s my understanding… 😱

wheatietoo

It was too overcast here to see the Super Snow Moon tonight.
Did anyone else see it?
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Linda

Nope. It’s pouring down rain here. I’m missing all the cool moons.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Snow here. I could see it fuzzily through the clouds earlier.

Pat Frederick

I actually got to see it Monday night–it was so bright-it woke me around 2 am thinking it was daytime! it was beautiful!

BraveandFree

We saw it when came over the horizon last night and again this morning when we got up!!
Awesome sight for sure.

A Fortiori

I was in Phx yesterday. When I first went outside, the moon was setting over the desert to the West as the sun was coming up. Twas beautiful.

wheatietoo

Heheh.
#WeThoughtSheWasAFloat <— 😆

Cuppa Covfefe

I doubt she could float even on the Great Salt Lake… What was that saying, again….
Float like a brick,
Sink like a rock…

gingersmom2009

Some people simply should not wear knits.

NebraskaFilly

You are much more polite and diplomatic than I will ever be!

rayzorbak

3 things that do NOT lie!
Babies….
Drunks… and…..
YOGA PANTS!

NebraskaFilly

Can someone please tell me why these overweight women wear such tight clothes showing all their fat hanging out in all it’s glory? Seriously? They think that is attractive??!!?? Yuck! Please – some self-awareness would be nice.

wheatietoo

.
Pres Trump re-tweeted this:

Aubergine

You know, even when he is nuts, there is something I always liked about Geraldo. I can’t explain it. He has this weird sort of integrity about him that I have to respect.

rayzorbak

Not me….. Jerry Rivers is a GAS BAG!
And a Racist AssHole.
He comes on…..
Channel AutoMutes or switches.

NebraskaFilly

Ah, no – sorry – not a wit of integrity about that nutjob! Nothing but a publicity hound. JMO tho.

NebraskaFilly

And his selfie almost naked in the bathroom was definitely cringe-worthy!

wheatietoo

Ben Garrison got Q’ed…and was visited by the Q Army.
https://twitter.com/FixItFrederick/status/1098058300892069888

https://twitter.com/JoeLucius/status/1098057813023170566

para59r

That would be as good as inviting Lionel to the WH!

sallyal

I know you all have seen the Q in the blue light.

wheatietoo

Oh yes…it was noted in the Q thread.
Heheh.
Very cool!

wheatietoo

Since that one graphic was truncated, here is the full thing:comment image
.
Ben may be getting an invite to the White House.
😀

Brave and Free

Great article indeed, there’s been so many attack’s against PDJT one has to wonder how he keeps going at times.

Gail Combs

“…one has to wonder how he keeps going at times.” I think OUR SUPPORT kept him going. He KNOWS we ACTIVELY support him and in greater numbers than ever!
Victor Davis Hanson says, “… prepping of the battlefield translated into a coordinated effort among the media, political progressives and celebrities to so demonize Trump that his imminent removal likely would appear a relief to the people. Anything was justified that led to that end….”
Instead the atacks on OUR President by the Media and Hollywood backfired. It led to the repudiation of the Media — 77% of Americans now think the media LIES — repudiation of Hollywood — Box Office Collapses By 23% over Last Year.
😲 OOOOoooops! 🤣

Tonawanda

Excellent article! Hanson has a very distinctive and effective way of marshaling his facts (like a certain Q author).

gingersmom2009

Hanson is jaw-dropping. Whenever he appears on a panel the others turn into shrinky-dinks.

Aubergine

Thanks for posting this. It is truly excellent.

NebraskaFilly

This is one of the things I LOVE about VDH! He is a master at “turn of phrase:”
“Waiting for the 2020 election was seen as too quaint.”

NebraskaFilly

And a treasure trove for my vocabulary lexicon….

NebraskaFilly

I also noticed something else – intentional or typo? “During the 2016 election, the Obama Department of Justice warped the Clinton email scandal investigation,…..”

andrew1979

listening to the “fox news” top and mid hour news updates while doing some cleaning and listening to the actual show that was on that channel – my goodness, sounding like the end of the world. no less that 4 possible new scandals by the president including two ways to show obstruction, the unconstitutional emergency, and the constitutional crisis resulting in the 16 city [states] that filed them… something has to get to some crescendo soon i would think. we should know one way or the other so to speak…

para59r

They have the volume cranked up and their fingers in their ears. Anything to keep the truth from getting out and yes, woke up this morning after the speech to see how the speech was covered and barely a peep. That’s okay though, the writing is now on the wall and they aren’t going to be able to stop it.

para59r

I dropped this on a different page, but thinks every one moved on from there, thus I’m dropping it again.
You guys may of posted this in a different post (having a heck of time catching up to see) but this was Marudo’s mind set yesterday, (I’m sure before POTUS gave the speech).
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/02/19/maduro-plans-socialist-counter-concert-venezuela/
Seems Maduro is setting up a counter concert to Branson’s concert at the Colombian border. Murado says he has so many artists from around the world coming to preform and that they will have to make it a two day event (funny how he can’t name one band or singer that will be coming to preform though).
However there is this: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-latin/roger-waters-venezuela-aid-live-concert-richard-branson-794610/ so lets see if Rojer Waters of Pink Floyd is actually going to go down there and support Marudo now that Marudo has said he’s setting up a counter concert at the border.
[Has visions of Waters showing up only to find out there’s no electricity, wouldn’t that be something 🙂 ] <– note kill box 😉
Anyway had to see who Branson is getting to show up and then there was this:
https://youtu.be/h29xjkiFqzE
Truly epic battle of the bands taking shape on 22 Feb on the Venezuelan/Colombian border. Mark the date!

churchmouse

Interesting! Thanks for the link, Daughn!
From the article:
‘… to have the Trump campaign collected on is extraordinarily hard because in most circumstances, a U.S. citizen, if you’re a U.S. citizen and you’re being targeted by the Russians you are obligated to be told; the FBI is obligated to tell you you’re a target. Because you’ve done nothing wrong, you’re a U.S. citizen. The only way you cannot have that done is by a waiver at the National Security Council. So everything starts, everything we’re talking about in some form, goes back to National Security Council because those waivers had to be granted. So let’s start with that. …’

Pat Frederick

drip, drip, drip…it’s hard waiting here for the waterfall to begin…but I know the rest of America is just getting to the riverbank…

Kalbo

Excellent read. Thanks for the link Daughn.
Usually don’t put a lot of credence in what talking heads yammer about.
Tony comes across as logical, based on integrity, with American values.
My belief that justice will prevail has increased.

Gail Combs

I like Epoch Times. They are what reporting is SUPPOSED TO BE!

NebraskaFilly

I have wanted this man in PDJT’s administration in some capacity or other for a very long time. I love this guy! How does he Tweet – Spooky or something like that?

NebraskaFilly

Just finishing watching this amazing man! I think HE should be the new head of the FBI!
On a side note, I noticed that the article, dated this month, says this: “Today we sit down with Tony Shaffer, acting president of the London Center for Policy Research. He served as a Lieutenant Colonel in U.S. Army, where he was a senior intelligence officer. Today he’s also an advising producer for National Geographic and a member of the Trump 2020 advisory board.”
Yet, @ the 27:16 mark he talks about being asked in “November 2016, about a year ago” to be an advisor. Huh?

NebraskaFilly

Oh, yeah – I was thrilled to hear that! Woolsey, meh…..ok, I guess.

churchmouse

Campaign contributions to Dems and Bernie — incredible:

para59r

I hope Warren drags around a suit case like Bernie did in the last election and hangs in on the trail just because it will be funny.
Meanwhile all that money going out the door for Bernie is going to be wasted. He’s not the anointed. They’ll burn him again and this time maybe many Bern fans will stay home.
Or so I’d like to think 🙂

churchmouse

Or, they’ll keep coming to our side. 🙂
The_Donald (Reddit) has attracted quite a lot of ex-Bernie Bros since 2016.

Gail Combs

That is ~ $25 each. Just a token to show support for socialism. I imagine it was sort of COMMANDED errr Strongly Suggested by some of the Techie firms… Twitter, Google, Facebook….
………..
We had that at one company I worked for. UNICEF wanted funds each year and we were essentially forced to ‘give’ Want a decent raise? You had better check the box allowing the monthly deduction. (It was in Boston MA) You at least were allowed to opt for a different charity but donate you must. I gave to the Cancer Society since both parents had died of cancer. That was considered ‘acceptable’ especially given the reasons.

churchmouse

I can believe it. Thanks for the story. As we well know, forced donations are ONLY so that the employer looks good. Good grief. They can donate a portion of their own company’s profits rather than milk their employees. So dishonest.
BUT — the $25 donation was one that Obama’s campaign team used with great success in 2008. A number of those came from overseas (illegal), too.

Gail Combs

The forced $25 donation is a method for Transnational Corporations to get around campaign donation regulations and get even MORE $$$ to the candidate of their choice.

churchmouse

UGH!
Thanks for the info, Gail — much appreciated.

Gail Combs

I forgot the washing $$$ through Lawyer Inc. 15,000 => a ten lawer firm who then donate $1,400 and pocket $100 each.
I figured that out after looking at ALL the lawyer donations in the 2010 elections. Law firms were the biggest donors BY FAR!
I can not find my old notes on the subject, but I did find this:
Obama foreign campaign fund Laundering scheme
http://www.city-data.com/forum/elections/468292-how-who-do-i-report-illegal-2.html
“…an investigation by Newsmax correspondent Kenneth R. Timmerman has uncovered numerous examples of questionable donations, including those originating from foreign sources in apparent violation of laws forbidding candidates from accepting foreign money.
On Sept. 29, Timmerman first disclosed that more than half of the $426.9 million Obama had raised at that point came from small donors whose names the Obama campaign would not disclose — making it impossible to verify that donors were not surpassing the $2,300 an individual can contribute to a candidate for the general election.
The Federal Election Commission cited a series of $25 donations from a contributor identified as “Will, Good” from Austin, Tex. A Newsmax analysis of the master file for the Obama campaign discovered 1,000 separate entries for Mr. Good Will, totaling $17,375.
Similarly, a donor identified as “Pro, Doodad” gave $19,500 in 786 separate donations. The donor listed his employer as “Loving” and his profession as “You.” Some of Doodad Pro’s donations were refunded by the campaign, but as of Sept. 20 more than $11,000 had not been returned.
Timmerman disclosed that the FEC compiled a database of potentially questionable overseas donations totaling $3.38 million. The funds came from such places as Abu Dhabi, Beijing, and Ethiopia.
In June, Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi gave a speech in which he claimed foreign nationals were contributing to Obama’s campaign.
Timmerman also reported that donors from the Gaza Strip had contributed $33,000 to the Obama campaign through the purchase of Obama T-shirts they had shipped to Gaza.
Timmerman published a new report on Oct. 8, disclosing that an investigation of Obama’s campaign finance reports turned up more than 2,000 cases in which individuals made donations far above the legal limit of $2,300 per election….”

churchmouse

Ms Begum left the UK when she was 15 with two of her girlfriends:
https://twitter.com/BenKTallmadge/status/1098128468796035073
From the article:
‘In a letter sent to Ms. Begum’s mother and obtained by the broadcaster ITV News, the British Home Office said the decision had been made by Home Secretary Sajid Javid on Tuesday …
‘British law prevents the government from stripping someone’s citizenship if doing so would render the person stateless. But British news outlets reported that because Ms. Begum’s mother has a Bangladeshi passport, the Home Office decided that it could remove her British citizenship …
‘In 2015, Ms. Begum, who is from the Bethnal Green area of East London and was then 15, made headlines when she traveled to Syria with two classmates at the height of the Islamic State’s power in the region. The three young women flew to Turkey from Gatwick Airport and then boarded a bus to the Syrian border. They soon became the poster girls for young Westerners looking to join the group …
‘This week, Mr. Javid wrote an op-ed article for The Sunday Times in which he vowed to stop those who had joined the Islamic State from returning to Britain, saying the Home Office could bar non-British citizens from entry to the country, or strip “dangerous individuals” of their British citizenship. He said the office had used those so-called deprivation powers more than 100 times …
‘Ms. Begum has said she does not regret going to Syria. She told The Times of London that seeing a severed head there did not faze her because “it was from a captured fighter seized on the battlefield, an enemy of Islam.” But she also said that she had done little more in Syria than take care of her husband and children, and that she had never made propaganda for the Islamic State or recruited others.’

wheatietoo

Amazing that Holder didn’t even think it was necessary to hide what they were doing.
https://twitter.com/jojoh888/status/1097998861774266368

Sylvia Avery

And then I want them frogmarched straight to Gitmo.

wheatietoo

Bernie has always been an idiot.
But now…he is a dangerous idiot, because young people have been brainwashed to think that Socialism is a ‘good thing’.

churchmouse

He should go to Venezuela and tell people there that it’s a good idea to queue for (now non-existent) food.

wheatietoo

I notice how Bernie always completely avoids the subject of Venezuela.

churchmouse

Yesterday, I posted two of Jussie Smollett’s tweets from 2010 asking when people would stop lying.
Now news from 2007 comes to light. Who was lying then?
https://twitter.com/APCentralRegion/status/1098061581651505154

Pat Frederick

lather, rinse, repeat

churchmouse

Twisted media:

wheatietoo

I vote…No!
Let her stay over there.
She hates America and will raise her son to hate America.
She’s not “full of regret”…she is lying.

churchmouse

Agree.
Ditto with Ms Begum (UK).
Wheatie, I am puzzled by PDJT’s recent request to European nations to take back their citizens who defected to ISIS.
Under that same principle, would the US take this American woman back? Or does his request apply exclusively to Europe?

wheatietoo

I didn’t know he made that request.
Eww…that doesn’t sound like him.
I don’t know why he did that.

churchmouse

Here you go:

I was surprised, to say the least.

wheatietoo

Oh…he’s asking them to take them back To Put Them On Trial.
That’s different!
Churchmouse, he’s not asking that they be ‘welcomed back with open arms’.
He’s asking that they be brought back and tried as terrorists.

churchmouse

I know, but is he going to do the same with this American woman, too?
If it’s such a good idea for Europe, I would hope the same would be done in the US.
Incidentally, we had the same thing with Guantanamo. Some who returned from the UK were held by the police, then released. One guy immediately wrote a book and got all sorts of airtime promoting it.

wheatietoo

If this woman was caught on the battlefield, fighting for ISIS…then Yes, she should be put on trial as a terrorist.
What would you suggest we do, with Euro-citizens that we’ve taken prisoner because they were ISIS fighters?

churchmouse

All I hope is that the same policy applies in the United States.
I did explain what happened to one of the Gitmo guys who returned.

CM in TN

They should be left there. The Syrians and Russians won’t coddle and protect them as Turkey and unfortunately we have been doing in Idlib. They will get rid of them on the battlefield as soon as we complete our pull-out.

churchmouse

I agree. From one CM to another, thank you!
I see no reason why ***any*** nation has to do anything to or for them. If the next regime puts them in prison or worse, well, they knew the risks when they went.
They defected, knowingly.

Sylvia Avery

She would just like to have a few “therapy lessons” and she’ll be all better. C’mon, Wheatie, pony up. Let’s pass the hat.
Actually, I have some shovel therapy that could be quite effective I’d be willing to volunteer to attempt with her.

Gail Combs

And I have some pitchfork therapy to use once you finish your shovel therapy.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Actually, I have some shovel therapy that could be quite effective I’d be willing to volunteer to attempt with her.

Should she be spade?

Sylvia Avery

That would be my professional recommendation. 🙂

Pat Frederick

exactly…IF we let her back in, what’s to stop her from sponsoring her “family” that she acquired there? no thanks!
and that child…he is not an American or an anchor baby–why should we provide them both with welfare, schooling, etc…she wanted to kill us.
they try to use our faith against us–our need to forgive and be compassionate…

wheatietoo

amwick

I was annoyed at Lou, during that interview with JJ. He missed the point about the GO8 completely. They are not allowed to discuss anything that happens during their meetings. Nothing, not a peep, or a tweet, nothing. Andy could claim anything, it could be the biggest lie in the world, and they are not allowed to fix the record so to speak… *sighs…

amwick

IKR? I tweeted something to him,,, but whistling in the wind, he won’t read it.. *sighs

churchmouse

CNN throws new hire, Sarah Isgur Flores (Sessions spokeswoman), under the bus. Why did they hire her, then? Talk about a hit piece:

From the article — by Brian Stelter, no less:
‘The reaction has been strong. CNN employees are concerned, according to numerous people who reached out to me on Tuesday. They are asking what Isgur’s role will be and questioning whether her sudden leap from the Trump administration to the CNN newsroom is an ethical breach.
‘The Daily Beast’s Maxwell Tani is hearing the same questions. He reported that CNN staffers are “demoralized” by the news.
‘Isgur’s hiring is also being questioned by journalists at other news organizations. While there is a long history of political aides moving into the media and vice versa, this is an abnormally fast spin of the so-called “revolving door.” And it’s even more unusual because Isgur is moving directly into a managerial role.
‘Several Democratic strategists harshly criticized CNN for the move. And Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez tweeted about it on Tuesday night, gaining thousands of likes and shares …
‘”Isgur has no experience in news,” Politico wrote, “but a long history as a political operative.” Many reporters know her and like her. But she was always on the other side of the fence. The DOJ, for example, engaged in aggressive leak hunts to ferret out reporters’ sources. Soon she’ll be working with those reporters and possibly talking with them about sourcing …’

churchmouse

‘But she did sleep with Ted Cruz………. which apparently, was a pre-req for the Amanda Carpenter hire.’
New info for me — before my time. So, Flores actually slept with Cruz? Have no idea who Carpenter is.

churchmouse

Thank you VERY much, Daughn! Much appreciated.

Tonawanda

churchmouse, you missed a VERY interesting aspect of the 2015-2016 campaign. For Trump supporters, the “Lyin'” Ted meme/theme was an entertaining one, and his alleged infidelities were a big part of that.
I wonder from time to time if some of the NeverTrump bitterness is related to Cruz supporters who resented the HIGHLY effective trashing of Cruz by Trump supporters, a trashing which was based on plenty of totally valid available material.

churchmouse

You are correct.
A lot of Cruzbots still do not support the President. They are still nursing their wounds over a guy who is unlikely to be a natural born US citizen. ‘He’s a constitutionalist,’ they say. Oh, the irony.
Yes, I did miss the debates. Thank you v. much for filling me in on the origins of ‘Lyin” Ted.

rayzorbak

Teddy Bear Cruz and Foamin Rubio are BOTH “Anchor Babies”…
NOT elegible to be President in my opinion.

Sylvia Avery

Eeeuuuuwwww….. Ted has never seemed appealing to me. And the pig has little kids and a wife. SMH.

churchmouse

His own daughter couldn’t even bear to be near him on the campaign trail.

Gail Combs

Yes, his kids MUCH prefered Melania!

churchmouse

Yes! I remember that.
What a contrast!

CM in TN

I still like how it looked like one of his girls pushed Snarly FioRINO of the stage at an event they were both at…😛

churchmouse

I didn’t catch that at the time, but, looking at it again, see what you mean.

CM in TN
churchmouse

That’s fine.
Thanks for the link to the video. Have duly bookmarked for posterity.
Enjoy 🙂

Cuppa Covfefe

Oh man….
Cruz is a Teddy Bare, then…
Aren’t there ANY untainted people in Washington, D.C.?
(Note that cuttingedge.org has an article about DC being laid out like a Pentagram…).

rayzorbak

cuttingedge.org has a LOT of good stuff.

rayzorbak

From Christianity, to Free Masonry, to Occult, to Catholicism and more.

Gail Combs

My point of view is the ‘Church’ was co-opted by the Elite early on. Remember we depend on translations upon translations and copies of copies of copies… Who had the writing skills? WHY the elite or those who were beholden to the elite!
So you get: Divine Right of Kings
Romans 13 1 through 7 says:
“Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God’s wrath but also for the sake of conscience.”
That is a REALLY useful passage if you want the peons to put up with Tyranny they would otherwise revolt under. It is also why our very wise Forefathers separated church and state. (Note that Jesus overturned the money changers tables and used a whip to chase out those making a mockery of the temple. Not exactly bowing to the subjection of authorities… )
Think of how the Progressives have REWRITTEN the history of the USA. For example Thanksgiving was the last good meal of people condemned to starvation by a socialist government, yet we never see that taught in school.
The Great Thanksgiving Hoax

Pat Frederick

Ted (and so many politicians) are 10.10’s in my book…
I wouldn’t touch ’em with a 10 ft pole even if they were wearing 10 inches of rubber…

Sylvia Avery

“They are asking what Isgur’s role will be and questioning whether her sudden leap from the Trump administration to the CNN newsroom is an ethical breach.”
That made me laugh so hard I have a stitch in my side. How delicious. CNN has discovered ethics! What’s next, I wonder?

Cuppa Covfefe

Carpooling?comment image

Pat Frederick

giggle snort

Sylvia Avery

LOL!

Tonawanda

Same here! Candidate for clueless statement of the year.

churchmouse

I don’t know, Daughn.
(I don’t have time to look it up right now, sorry.)

rayzorbak

Maybe ask Di Chi Fienstein?
Bet she has a “Butler” that knows.
Or….. Mitch McConnell’s Wife…. Elaine Chow
Her dad owns a Chinese shipping company or something.

NebraskaFilly

I want to know the name of the company in Manassas, given that I lived there for several years. I worked for a Temporary Agency in Manassas over a period of several years, taking long-term temp positions at many different companies, and have to wonder if I ever worked for them….? Wouldn’t THAT be a shock??!!??

Pat Frederick

read about this last week…they didn’t name names in the article i read, but interesting that they KNEW about it and yet Comey still had the audacity to claim that she was just careless with classified info because foreign agents probably did not access her emails…or whatever word salad he spouted to exonerate her…

TatonkaWoman

Ah! Great example of the sly lie!! Foriegn agents didn’t need to access her email…because she just sent all her email to them!!

churchmouse

Sick comments about Roger Stone:

Sylvia Avery

At one time, many years ago, I actually thought David Gergen was sane if not an intellectual tiger. Now I realize he has been crazy all along and quit taking his meds or he’s just gone and broke cray cray. Seriously. Who can listen to that man?

Pat Frederick

these are disgusting comments…and we’re not even allowed to tell them to “learn to code” but they get away with this trash??

churchmouse

This x1000!
Thank you, Pat!

Pat Frederick

I really hope SCOTUS Thomas highlights and addresses this travesty—the media cannot be excused from libel or damage suits when they are blatantly printing and posting not only untruths, innuendos, and gossip, but are inciting unrest and destroying careers.

churchmouse

Perhaps the Nick Sandmann lawsuit will put a huge crack in the media’s skulduggery and lies.
I would prefer it if something like that began their downfall. A governmental/SCOTUS ruling could follow more comfortably.

Marica

That’s what I’m counting on CM! POTUS chimed in!

Go get em NICK!!!

churchmouse

Absolutely!

churchmouse

I know, right? What the heck …

churchmouse

Big lawsuit coming from Nick Sandmann’s lawyers:

churchmouse

Sylvia Avery

And he says this is only the beginning….
I hope the entire media gets Gawkered by Lin Wood when the dust settles.

NebraskaFilly

I still continue to wonder why, exactly, we even have the FCC, who does absolutely nothing about the MSM’s outright lies and, indeed, IMO, sedition. Surely they are violating the terms of their broadcasting license? If not, WHY not?

churchmouse

This x1000, NF!
On the other hand, Ajit Pai had a lot of protesters outside his house when the ‘net neutrality’ of 2015 died a death late in 2017 (the repeal came into effect when 2015 rules expired in June 2018). It was very bad for Pai — and his family, including his children — for around six months.
I don’t know if this happened in late 2017 or early 2018:
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/ajit-pais-personal-hell-our-national-medias-failure/
‘It kicked off when HBO funnyman John Oliver ranted one night and started his own pro-net-neutrality, anti-Ajit Pai campaign. He called it the “Go FCC Yourself,” and told those who agreed with him to hit the FCC’s website with comments in support net neutrality. And they did.
‘But things quickly spun out of control, as an internet stunt morphed into an internet mob, and then into a real mob.
‘Noah Rothman, writing in Commentary, describes what happened: “Those comments were peppered with claims that Pai was a pedophile, a ‘dirty, sneaky Indian’ who should self-deport and reminders that anonymous online hordes maintain the ‘power to murder Ajit Pai and his family.’ ”
‘Ah yes, the Democrats, the party of racial tolerance and understanding.
‘It got worse. Groups claiming to be part of the Democrats’ “Resistance” started demonstrating in front of Pai’s house in Arlington, Va. They put out mock Wanted posters with a photo of him. They demonstrated and held “vigils” in his driveway. Some even took pictures inside his house.
‘The house had its doorbell continually rung, and unwanted food ordered for delivery.
‘”My kids are 5 and 3,” Pai told the Wall Street Journal. “It’s not pleasant.”
‘But it didn’t end with just personal harassment. Pai heads one of the most important regulatory agencies in the digital age, the FCC. Last week he was scheduled to speak at the Consumer Electronics Show. Unfortunately, the organizers of the CES, the premier industry show of its kind, were intimidated by the leftist thugs by being “subject(ed) to vicious and direct attacks and threats.” Intimidated and no doubt worried about the seriousness of death threats they received, CES canceled Pai’s talk.’
A Californian also emailed death threats in 2017 and was subsequently arrested in 2018:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr/man-arrested-threatening-murder-family-fcc-chairman
‘According to court documents, on or about Dec. 19 and 20, 2017, Markara Man, 33, of Norwalk, allegedly sent three emails to Chairman Pai’s email accounts. The first email accused Chairman Pai of being responsible for a child who allegedly had committed suicide because of the repeal of net neutrality regulations. The second email listed three locations in or around Arlington, and threatened to kill the Chairman’s family members. The third email had no message in its body, but included an image depicting Chairman Pai and, in the foreground and slightly out of focus, a framed photograph of Chairman Pai and his family. The FBI traced the emails to Man’s residence in Norwalk, California, and when initially confronted in May 2018, Man admitted to the FBI that he sent the email threatening Chairman Pai’s family because he was “angry” about the repeal of the net neutrality regulations and wanted to “scare” Chairman Pai …’
Here is the makeup of the FCC commissioners: 3 Republicans (including Pai) and 2 Democrats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Communications_Commission

churchmouse

Thanks, Daughn.
The Pais went through hell.

Cuppa Covfefe

I read somewhere that the amount of the lawsuit was what the Washed Poo was worth. Would be a great irony if Sandmann ended up owning it…

sallyal

Not what it’s worth. What Besos paid for it. It’s not worth a plug nickel.

GA/FL

Thank you, Governor Abbott for supporting President Trump and the Border Patrol!!!

GA/FL

Am very leery/wary about this now that Steve Bannon has gotten involved.
I hope this group will give their donors an accounting for every penny and Bannon is not getting one penny!
Also hope he’s not grand-standing and trying to make Trump look bad.
And also hope the group won’t try to build it themselves and get in the way/interfere with the US Army Engineers and President Trump’s plans for the official wall.
https://twitter.com/annvandersteel/status/1098058482492866561

churchmouse

Was it you who raised this concern last week?
At the time, I responded saying I thought they were only raising money for the government to use to build the wall.
Now I better understand your concerns about this.
I agree, GA/FL, that clarification is needed, especially about Bannon’s role and if he is collecting a salary for this. Also agree that this group should not be building the wall. Financing it, fine. Anything more, no.

GA/FL

Due to family and other experiences, I have great conditioned fear, distrust, negativity and cynicism.

churchmouse

I cannot blame you one iota, GA/FL.
Remember, PDJT trained his children to ‘trust no one’. ‘Do you trust me?’ ‘Yes, Dad, we trust you.’ ‘No! You haven’t learned the lesson.’ (That was somewhere on here a couple of months ago.)
I just wanted to make sure I was addressing it to the right person. Couldn’t remember if it was you or Pat.
I, too, have questions now. Are the border officials working with them doing so with the approval of the DHS? Has the Army Corps of Engineers been apprised of this?
Sounds as if this group is going rogue. The scope and tone have changed since Bannon’s come on board.

GA/FL

Please, LORD, intervene and expose any corruption!!! Too many people have given money – generously. I do not trust GoFundMe since the days of Trayvon and Mike Brown and they wouldn’t allow people to donate to the policemen’s funds.

GA/FL

GFM takes a big percentage of all donations, don’t they?

churchmouse

Their website says 2.9% + 30 cents per transaction:
https://www.gofundme.com/pricing#US

GA/FL

Does the IRS also take a chunk?

churchmouse

I do not know.

GA/FL

Thanks, Daughworks! I am very relieved!

GA/FL

And are GFM donations deductible to donors?

churchmouse

I don’t know.
An online search would give you more details.

BB

If one would read the article and the links like ‘website FAQ’ some of your questions would be answered. The group cannot raise the money and give it to the government. It is not legal to do so. OK, no Bannon, no GoFundMe but why trash something when you haven’t taken the time to become informed about it?

Gail Combs

One option for them is to BUY the 60ft wide easement along the border and donate THAT to the government, or sell it for a buck.
That is what I would suggest as a good and legal use of the money.

NebraskaFilly

I do think this antipathy towards Bannon might be misplaced in this case. Kobach is involved (see the link saying he has PDJT’s approval) and they are working with ranchers who have already agreed to either donate the land or sign easements. GoFundMe, from what I understand, has closed out their account and those who donated were given the option of a refund. The remaining funds were given to Kolfage, I think.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/25/us/politics/kris-kobach-wall-funding.html

churchmouse

Thanks for the link.
As PDJT approved it, fine.

NebraskaFilly

I do believe they are also coordinating on the type of wall.

churchmouse

Works for me.

churchmouse

I don’t know you, but if you’ve been reading previous exchanges on this subject, when I have been commenting on it, I support the funding drive, not them personally building the wall.

churchmouse

As long as they are working through proper channels and PDJT approves, it’s fine — in principle.
In the beginning, they were only collecting funds.
Now they are building part of the wall.
It is, as we say in the UK, moving the goalposts. Moving the goalposts here is not a good thing.
Then, Bannon got in there. Ugh. More moving of goalposts. (Glad people were offered their money back.)
Whatever.
I was unaware of the President’s approval.
Whatever.
It will end in tears (another great British expression).
Wait and see. Wait and see.

Pat Frederick

LOL…great! reading the comments that accompanied the story…Newsome is getting roasted…LOL

GA/FL