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Feeling Guilty?

Guilt, the condition, not the feeling, is the result of having violated a specific rule or law. When we cross a moral, ethical, or legal line, we are guilty. This is true even if we did not know a line was crossed. According to the Bible, we are all guilty before God (Romans 3:10, 23). The fact that a person may not “feel guilty” does not affect his or her guilty status legally or morally.

From the moment Adam and Eve broke God’s law against eating the forbidden fruit, guilt entered human history (Genesis 3). With that guilt came a feeling of being guilty. They knew they had violated a specific law. They were guilty, and they felt guilty. God demonstrated His plan to cover human guilt with the shedding of innocent blood (Genesis 3:21; cf. Hebrews 9:22). What God did in the garden was a picture of what He would do thousands of years later to cover the guilt of everyone who trusts in His only begotten Son (John 1:12; 3:16–18; Romans 10:9–10).

Guilty feelings are useful when they drive us to repentance. However, Satan can also use guilty feelings to drive us away from God. Second Corinthians 7:10 says, “Godly sorrow brings repentance that leads to salvation and leaves no regret, but worldly sorrow brings death.” Worldly guilt is filled with condemnation and hopelessness. It tells us that we are bad and nothing will make us good enough. It lies to us about the character of God, insisting that we must try to earn the favor of a God who will never give it. Worldly sorrow hangs over our heads and colors our attitudes toward God.

Unbelievers stand guilty before God in that they have not trusted Christ as Savior (John 3:18–19). Unbelievers experiencing feelings of guilt should let those feelings lead them toward the only One who can absolve them—Jesus Christ. Their guilty feelings are accurate and are designed to create in them a desire for forgiveness. Believers—children of God who have trusted in Christ’s death and resurrection for their salvation—have been declared not guilty before God (Romans 8:1). We have been justified (Romans 5:1). God has placed all our sin on His own Son (2 Corinthians 5:21). He has taken the righteousness of Christ and granted it to us. That divine exchange guarantees our acceptance by God and eternal life with Him (2 Corinthians 5:18–19; Romans 5:9–10). When we fail, we have God’s promise that, if we confess our sins to Him, He will forgive us and wipe away all traces of guilt (1 John 1:9).

Many struggle with false guilt. They are forgiven, yet they still feel guilty. They feel stuck in guilt. They may think, “I know God has forgiven me, but I can’t forgive myself.” They have prayed, confessed their sin, and believe that God has granted them forgiveness because of Jesus. Yet they continue to beat themselves up. The reason for false guilt might not be what we think. Satan whispers into our souls that we don’t deserve full pardon until we prove to God how sorry we are. We must continue to carry the load of shame; we deserve it. We are not worthy to accept God’s pardon until we have punished ourselves, Satan says. And then he lies some more, telling us that, in hanging on to guilt, we are being humble.

Not so. Humility gratefully accepts a pardon it can never earn and lives to demonstrate that gratefulness. Don’t think, “God may forgive me, but my standard is higher than God’s. What Jesus did on the cross may be sufficient to cover other sins, but not mine. I must help Jesus pay for this sin by punishing myself. I will continue to carry my shame until I decide I have paid for it.” In clinging to false guilt, we are not fully grasping that Christ’s death on the cross was powerful enough to cover every sin. False guilt can keep us from growing into the mature Christians God wants us to be.

True feelings of guilt keep us humble as we recognize no one can be good enough to earn God’s favor. A recognition of guilt should drive us to gratefully receive all God has done on our behalf. True guilt propels us toward God; false guilt drives us away. False guilt sees failure as a life sentence; true guilt sees failure as another opportunity to experience more of God’s mercy and grace. True guilt is erased by repentance and restoration; false guilt continues to cling to us even after we’ve repented. When we learn to recognize the difference, guilt does not have to dominate our lives.

God paid a high price so we could walk in freedom (2 Corinthians 9:15). Justification nullifies guilt. For those in Christ, guilty feelings can be a wake-up call that something isn’t right, and we have the opportunity to confess our sin and turn from it. Guilty feelings are simply a tool God uses to reveal sin. When no sin is present, guilt is being misused by our enemy and needs to be renounced. We were not designed to carry guilt; Jesus did that for us (Colossians 2:14; 1 Peter 2:24). Because of Christ, we can walk in the light and never again suffer under the burden of guilt.


Rejoice in the Lord always. I will say it again: Rejoice! Let your gentleness be evident to all. The Lord is near. Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. (Philippians 4:4-7)

On this day and every day –

God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up

Hopefully, every Sunday, we can find something here that will build us up a little . . . give us a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.

“This day is holy to the Lord your God;
do not mourn nor weep.” . . .
“Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet,
and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared;
for this day is holy to our Lord.
Do not sorrow,
for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”

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Cool, they got Biden a head cone, to prevent him from sniffing little girls.


One possible explanation for the collapse in Afghanistan being a deliberate act by the Biden administration / Deep State is to consider who the troops are that are being sent there. They are mainly troops from the 82nd Airborne Division based at Fort Bragg in North Carolina.

Approximately 2,000 82nd Airborne have been sent to Kabul, and another 3,000 to 3,500 are currently prepositioned in Kuwait.


Which brings me to ask, why the 82nd Airborne? Is it possible that they were the primary division that white hats in the Department of Defense were planning to use to bring the chaos back under control in Washington DC, and maybe elsewhere?

Back in May/June, 2020 President Trump ordered troops from the 82nd to be sent to Washington, DC. A few hundred arrived, but were sent back shortly afterwards after a heated backlash from the woke Generals.

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The main question I have is did the Biden administration / deep state deliberately cause the rapid collapse in Afghanistan so the 82nd Airborne Division could be sent on a rescue mission to disrupt any plans white hats in the military might have had for them in the near future?

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And are they willing to let this happen to take the election out of the headlines? Since nothing else has worked.


I wrote this not realizing that FG&C had said the same hours ago. This is their nuclear option, so obvious.

Wolf Moon



ALL this is doing is making MORE people REALLY REALLY MISS President Trump!

Keep it up, assholes. Everything you try MAKES YOU LOOK WORSE!

Wolf Moon


Wolf Moon

Yup. Absolutely. Code Red. It’s THIS crap.

Fall of Vietnam + Boat People = psychological demoralization on America

Fall of Iran + Hostage Crisis = same, THWARTED by Reagan Reaction

Fall of Afghanistan + Hostage Crisis = same + regime salvation, TWARTED by WE THE PEOPLE.

I’m calling it out early and NOW – the Bidenoids are trying to save their own PC asses by CREATIVE DOWNFALL.


And on top of that, it seems the Camp David pictures are shopped. The clock displays are wrong, there’s only a two hour time difference between London and Moscow.

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Wolf Moon


Deplorable Patriot

hmm…movie set would be my guess.

The anons are getting good at this.



Deplorable Patriot

Same playbook.

Yeah, we’ve seen this movie before.

Wolf Moon

They may be trying to create a HOSTAGE CRISIS.


Can we send Fauci and Walensky to oversee masking policy in Afghanistan?….we can turn their HOSTAGE CRISIS into an American Pay-Per-View event.

Wolf Moon



For something this authentic and meaningful, Kamala really should be in charge….

Cuppa Covfefe

They’ll make her kneel soon enough. Maybe they should send AOC (Always On Camera) to make coffee and wait tables…


“They may be trying to create a HOSTAGE CRISIS.”


We already have a hostage crisis, right there in the WH.

Biden is a hostage of… you know, the thing.

What’s it called…

Communist Chy-na.


The 82nd are hooah!


Thank you 🙂

Wolf Moon

Video (I think it’s over, but WOW.

Wolf Moon

Grandma – I think they are creating a PRETEXT.

Those 5000 Terrorists they let loose. What does that remind you of?


This is a planned bogus/real threat to get us under control.




Wolf Moon


Just like Dzhimmi Kharter, Soviet dupe, gave us.

Concerned Virginian

Neo Napoleon

All Westerners are surrounded at the Kabul airport.

There are no flights and they’re getting shot at with rockets

This is how much Biden cares for Americans

3:39 PM – Aug 15, 2021 – Twitter for Adroid

(There’s a link to @crabcrawler1 that has a long and realtime feed of what’s going on.)


This is all on purpose. Deflection and other stuff.

We could stop this in a NY minute. It is ON PURPOSE.



Treason of the highest order

Wolf Moon

Thank you for using the T WORD.

This is pure OBAMA.

Cuppa Covfefe

And leaving all the weaponry and supplies behind, especially if they are “sensitive” is also treason, and actions unbecoming of a CIC…

Although for Bye, Done that acronym really means:

C hina
I n


Maybe I’m giving the barbaric freaks too much credit but I can’t see them executing any Westerners (yet) , They won. They have state of the art weaponry, land, property, vehicles. They got it all. If they begin killing foreigners at some point somebody’s going to drop bombs on them and ruin the celebrations.

Concerned Virginian

Perhaps the Taliban will first give any Americans they round up the chance to “convert to the Religion of Peace”. That’s after they separate children from their parents, spouses from each other, etc.
The Taliban are barbaric ISLAMIC freaks from head to foot. There is no doubt that they will quickly re-institute the rigorous Sharia Law of their sect within weeks, if not days. Women will again be required to follow strict purdah (living separately with the children at the back of the house; wearing the burqa in public; no schooling for females beyond 6th-grade equivalent in segregated madrassas, or “educated” at home; women forbidden to leave the home unless a close male relative is with them; women forbidden to drive or to work outside the home except for doctors and nurses — and will only be allowed to treat females).
Of course, the harsh and arbitrary Sharia Law punishments that the Taliban had previously used will also be re-instituted within weeks, if not days.
ANY “statement” by a “Taliban spokesman” about the “new Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan” forming an “inclusive government” IS A LIE.

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“All Westerners are surrounded at the Kabul airport.
There are no flights and they’re getting shot at with rockets”


Where’s Hitlery when we need here?

Hitlery: “What difference at this point does it make?”


& remember, Hellary knows how to dodge bullets on the tarmac. 😉


“All Westerners are surrounded at the Kabul airport.
There are no flights and they’re getting shot at with rockets
This is how much Biden cares for Americans”


If Myanmar sent in rescue troops, as JB and the Twerkers do nothing, and the U.S. military leadership once again demonstrates their complete and total fealty to the enemy, it would solidify Myanmar as a great world military power.

Which is a lot more than any of the usual defectives can say.

First saving their own country from the sissy globalists, and then saving Westerners in Kabul from the sissy globalists.

No other military on earth could boast such a record, or make such claims.

If I was in Myanmar military leadership, the rescue mission would already be on the way. Opportunities like this don’t come often.


I think you should run for President.


Of the country?

Be careful, you might give someone a heart attack…

Maybe even a lot of someones… 😂 🤣 😂


I think we could do a great job! I could be V.P. I could certainly do be than the current one.

How much worse could we possibly be?


Well we certainly couldn’t do worse than the criminals running the stolen government now.

Let’s see what DJT has in mind. If that turns out to be a belly flop, we may have to look into this further… 👍😁




And we’re back 👍


Yeah, 14% of those Biden voters are in T R O U B L E …
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Wolf Moon

LMAO! “Not my poll!” they cried!


Someone said “poll”, and Hunter looked around for dancers.

Wolf Moon

The son of the Commander in Thief!

Wolf Moon

Barely, but good enough for now!


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Wolf Moon

I think it is, actually!

Sadie Slays

Unpopular opinion. I’m taking the big ol’ wait-and-see approach on the Afghanistan stuff. I’m not sold on the idea that this was the cabal’s doing or what they wanted. Afghanistan was a crap, unwinnable situation always destined for a messy end. The white hats have two reasons to let Afghanistan fall in a dramatic and decisive manner:

– The entrenched MIC bureaucrats can no longer pull the “just one more year!” deadline extensions that they’ve been pulling for the past twenty years. No “we need a five-year transition plan” scams. No more American obligation to keep dumping money into this black hole. It’s done. It’s over.

– Even the brainwashed are (justifiably) angry over this. Hopefully public pressure can be used to oust Milley and the other MIC traitors out of the Pentagon in a bi-partisan way with public support. Any support Biden still had among the brainwashed is gone. Foreign entanglements are also going to be a much harder sell to the brainwashed in the future.

We’ll see what happens.  

Wolf Moon

I’m with you. A HUGE chunk of the swamp called “Afghanistan” just got DRAINED DRY.

Deplorable Patriot

The more I’m seeing of it, the more I’m wondering if this is the false flag we were promised.


We the People have the power to take “woke > broke” to another whole level.
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Wolf Moon

YES. This is TRUE and this is REAL.

Don’t give in.

And beyond that, THIS.

If somebody uses DEADLY FORCE to prevent a family member from being forcibly vaccinated, and I am on the jury, THAT PERSON WILL WALK FREE.

Gail Combs

There is a darn good reason that I have made sure I can survive for at least 3 if not 6 months without leaving my home.

As I said yesterday, You want to end this vaccination farce and get the audits mandated?? Have a one week sick-out of all of Trumps voters.

Remember there are a heck of a lot more of US than there are of them. Unfortunately our biggest problem is we are not organized like they are.

Wolf Moon

And now the Bidenistas and the Bidenazis are creating a purposeful terrorist threat to try to create fake unity and save their regime – just like the Argentinian generals created the war in the Falklands.

They failed to take us out directly as “insurrectionists”, so now they want to create a new threat – terrorists + open borders.


I’ve got a hunny that says this is from a United exec.

Wolf Moon



I imagine an airline would be more affected than some other companies since losing pilots and other personnel would stop lots of flights.


“Blinken advised Biden to vote for the Iraq War. Also said US failed by not sending more troops to Syria,” Ricochet editor-in-chief Jon Gabriel wrote on Twitter on Sunday.

Blinken was Biden’s top aide in 2002 when the former senator voted for a resolution authorizing the use of force in Iraq, according to progressive magazine The Nation.

“TONY BLINKEN co-founded a consultancy @WEAdvisors that launched in 2018 to help clients navigate DC. It doesn’t disclose most clients’ identities, but has acknowledged working with an unidentified drug maker [and] a Big Tech firm it helped with US-China trade,” New York Times journalist Kenneth P. Vogel wrote on Twitter.

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Wolf Moon

Cuppa Covfefe

“But the idea that problems with withdrawal plans belongs to anyone but Biden is preposterous.”

Well, as Commander-In-Chief, the ultimate responsibility for problems and their resolution, or, preferably, their avoidance, rests SOLELY on Bye, Done. Even if he’s got Pinko Thoroughly Thilly Milley whispering sweet nothings in his ear (that travel unhindered out the other ear)…

Then again, SleepyCreepy Joe can’t plan what flavors of icecreat he wants, or what he wants on his MayPo in the morning. Indeed, he probably has to have Jillary do that… So in that sense, GreenForest is correct. But there’s a swamp in the Glenn, or vice-versa…

Btw. Germany’s got a number of people still there, who are being eveacuated as quickly as can be. With what überGlobalist von der Leyen did to the German military, I’m not surprised that it’s a mess. On the other hand, our equipment is so crappy that it would probably be a net loss for the Afghans to keep/use it. Oh, there are maternity uniforms for pregnant females in the infantry (I AM NOT KIDDING!!! ). Kind of short of winterproof uniforms and equipment, though (probably no money left over after the Infanterie Umstandskleidung)…


I’m stoked that many on the Left are finally seeing Biden for the oatmeal brain that he is but all this talk of getting rid of him means..Kamala would be in. I don’t actually think that will be to our advantage at all.
All of Biden’s failures will be swept aside as months of nonstop giddy nonsense praise for the first female potus. She will not be able to be seen as wrong..on anything. That’ll be racist and sexist .

Wolf Moon

Kamala Harris is the ULTIMATE incompetent Soros DA.


“She will not be able to be seen as wrong..on anything.”


Oh yes she would!

Biden has an excuse, he’s lost his mind.

But Camel-Uh’s only excuse is incompetence, and that would be impossible to hide on the world stage, when the whole world is looking at her.

And the more they went on and on about being the first female POTUS, the more that narrative would backfire and blow up in their faces, as she self-immolates. By the time the villagers storm Bride of Frankenstein’s castle, nobody will ever even nominate a female for POTUS again.

She would be the laughing stock of the whole planet within days. Maybe sooner than that.

Like Mayor Sleestack in Chicago, only worse, by orders of magnitude.

No one can (or does) take her seriously, which would only enrage her more, to the point where the guaranteed public meltdown would be spectacular.

And then we get to do it all over again with Mafia Nan!

This may be the best strategy to get rid of the Global Mafia, almost none of whom got to where they are because of any actual competence.

Force each one to be president for about 3 or 4 weeks at a time. Like real life crash-test dummies.

Put them in the driver’s seat long enough to smash head-on into a concrete barrier, and then bring in the next clown act 👍😂



Cuban DICK tator running Canada.

The Associated Press (@AP) Tweeted:
BREAKING: Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has triggered an election for next month. Trudeau aims to capitalize on Canada being one of the most fully vaccinated countries in the world as he seeks to win a majority of seats in Parliament.


This may be his last election with Dominion on his side, so he needs to make it count.

Wolf Moon

Exactly what I was thinking.

Sure would be a shame if patriotic Canadians DESTROYED their voting machines.

Wolf Moon












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