Dear Maga: 20210905 Open Topic

This Sanctuary Sunday Open Thread, with full respect to those who worship God on the Sabbath, is a place to reaffirm our worship of our Creator, our Father, our King Eternal.

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Wait Patiently On The Lord

Recently, we read about resting in the Lord, where that rest referred to a spiritual rest from confusion, worry, stress, useless human effort, and a break from all internal, external, mortal, and spiritual enemies. The Hebrew word translated as “rest” means “to be at peace,” “to be still,” “to be quiet or calm.”

In place of “rest in the Lord,” some Bible translations say, “Be still before the Lord” (ESV and NIV), “Be silent before the Lord”(CSB), “Surrender yourself to the Lord” (GW), and “Be still in the presence of the Lord” (NLT). These versions convey the essential idea that to rest and be at peace, one must dwell in the presence of the Lord, surrendered to His lordship.

A main verse referenced for resting in the Lord was Psalm 37:7 “Rest in the LORD, and wait patiently for Him” which introduces waiting patiently for the Lord as a companion to resting in the Lord.

In the Psalms, Proverbs, and many other books of the Bible, we find commands to wait on the Lord” like this one: “Wait on the LORD: Be of good courage, and he shall strengthen thine heart: Wait, I say, on the LORD” (Psalm 27:14, KJV). Most modern translations use “wait for the Lord.” To English readers, the idea of waiting on the Lord might seem like a passive exercise, but a closer study reveals that it’s nothing of the sort.

Patient, confident trust in the Lord is the central idea of the exhortation to wait on the Lord. The entire Psalm 27 is a prayer to God for help. It beautifully illustrates the meaning of waiting on the Lord. Throughout the psalm’s eloquent lines, David expresses authentic faith and courageous trust in God, based on his confident expectation that the Lord will rescue and save him in his time of trouble.

First, we see that we can wait on the Lord by trusting in Him. David expressed great confidence in the Lord, who was his light, salvation, and stronghold (Psalm 27:1–2). This kind of dynamic trust dispels fear and despair: “When the wicked advance against me to devour me, it is my enemies and my foes who will stumble and fall. Though an army besiege me, my heart will not fear; though war break out against me, even then I will be confident” (verses 2–3).

We can wait on the Lord by seeking Him. David conveyed his trust in the Lord by longing to be with Him, to commune in God’s presence and worship in His temple: “One thing I ask from the LORD, this only do I seek: that I may dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to gaze on the beauty of the LORD and to seek him in his temple” (Psalm 27:4). In God’s dwelling place, praising and worshiping the Lord, David felt safe and secure: “For in the day of trouble he will keep me safe in his dwelling; he will hide me in the shelter of his sacred tent and set me high upon a rock. Then my head will be exalted above the enemies who surround me; at his sacred tent I will sacrifice with shouts of joy; I will sing and make music to the LORD” (verses 5–6).

We can wait on the Lord through prayer, as David did in eager expectation of deliverance (Psalm 27:7–14). David asked God for wisdom, direction (verse 11), and protection (verse 12), wholly believing he would “see the goodness of the LORD in the land of the living” (verse 13). Those who wait on the Lord can fully expect Him to fulfill their hope: “Indeed, none who wait for you shall be put to shame” (Psalm 25:3, ESV).

Waiting on the Lord involves the confident expectation of a positive result in which we place a great hope. This expectation is based on knowledge of and trust in God. Those who do not know the Lord will not wait on Him; neither will those who fail to trust Him. We must be confident of who God is and what He is capable of doing. Those who wait on the Lord do not lose heart in their prayers: “This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us” (1 John 5:14). Waiting on the Lord renews our strength (Isaiah 40:31). Waiting on the Lord by trusting, seeking, and praying establishes our faith and brings serenity and stability: “I waited patiently for the LORD; he turned to me and heard my cry. He lifted me out of the slimy pit, out of the mud and mire; he set my feet on a rock and gave me a firm place to stand. He put a new song in my mouth, a hymn of praise to our God. Many will see and fear the LORD and put their trust in him” (Psalm 40:1–3). As this passage affirms, waiting on the Lord is also a testimony to others who will see our faith and, as a result, put their trust in God.

Waiting on the Lord brings God’s blessings: “Since ancient times no one has heard, no ear has perceived, no eye has seen any God besides you, who acts on behalf of those who wait for him” (Isaiah 64:4; see also 1 Corinthians 1:7).

Sometimes we might feel as though the Lord does not see or hear us—that He’s not answering our prayers. During these moments, we can put our complete faith and trust in the living God. We can wait on the Lord in eager anticipation, knowing that He is with us and in control of our lives. He will do what He has promised. He will rescue and save us. He is always working for our good, even when we don’t feel Him (Romans 8:28). Through patient, courageous, active trusting, seeking, and prayer, we can learn to wait on the Lord.

Why is waiting on God so difficult?

Waiting on God is not only difficult; sometimes it seems impossible. We want things to happen in our own timing, according to our plans. But God doesn’t operate on our schedules, and expecting that He will sets one up for disappointment.

Waiting on God means going without answers to prayer, wondering why the wicked seem to prosper, and having desires delayed and hope deferred. God has a greater perspective of life’s events, and His perspective, plans, and schedules are perfect and holy, because He is perfect and holy. The psalmist tells us, “As for God, His way is perfect” (Psalm 18:30). If God’s ways are “perfect,” then we can trust that whatever He does—and whatever His timing—is also perfect. When we grasp that fact, waiting on God is not only made less difficult, it actually becomes joyful.

The promises of God are clear on this matter—in waiting on God, we find our strength renewed (Isaiah 40:31). But we are human, and we live in a fast-paced culture that demands everything now. That’s one reason why waiting on God is difficult. Sometimes, the prayers we lift up to the Lord of Hosts are answered immediately, and that encourages us to further trust and confidence. However, sometimes the Lord’s answers are delayed. Over a period of time, the Lord tests our faith, and that’s when we can really struggle. We may even start to wonder whether the Lord is really listening to our prayers.

Waiting on God should not cause the believer to doubt or to worry. The apostle Paul exhorts us to not be anxious about anything (Philippians 4:6). The King James Version translates this as the command to be “careful for nothing.” This means we are not to be full of care over anything; we should be mindful of nothing that might cause concern, except to bring it to God in prayer. Anxiety in the believer suggests a lack of faith, and that grieves the Lord (see Matthew 8:26).

Waiting on God can keep us out of trouble. Abraham had God’s promise of a son through whom the covenant would be fulfilled (Genesis 15:4). Abraham and Sarah tried and waited, but they could have no child. Rather than waiting on God and His timing, they unwisely took matters into their own hands, and Ishmael was the result (Genesis 16).

One divine attribute that will enable us to patiently wait on God is His sovereignty. We can have complete confidence in His total, independent control over every creature, event, and circumstance at every moment in history. Subject to none, influenced by none, and absolutely independent, God does what He pleases, only as He pleases, and always as He pleases. Nothing can stay His hand: “I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. I say: My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please” (Isaiah 46:10). Once we better understand God’s sovereignty, coupled with His goodness, waiting for God to act becomes a matter of a child trusting in his father’s faithfulness, sure of his father’s strength.

Waiting on God is never easy, but we wait in the knowledge that God knows our situation, He cares for our needs, and He is good to the end. “Hope deferred makes the heart sick, but a longing fulfilled is a tree of life” (Proverbs 13:12).


On this day and every day –

God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up


Hopefully, every Sunday, we can find something here that will build us up a little . . . give us a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.

“This day is holy to the Lord your God;
do not mourn nor weep.” . . .
“Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet,
and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared;
for this day is holy to our Lord.
Do not sorrow,
for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”

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Emeraldstar

“Two down, and about 200 to go!”

Brazil joins Japan –

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/brazil-suspends-12-million-doses-chinas-sinovac-vaccine

FTA:
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“The Brazilian health regulator suspended the use of over 12 million doses of Chinese-made vaccines on Sept. 4 over being produced in an unauthorized plant, according to an official statement.

“Authorities said the ban was “a precautionary measure” to prevent “possible imminent risk.”

“The manufacturing unit … was not inspected and was not approved by Anvisa in the authorization of emergency use of the mentioned vaccine,” the country’s federal health regulator Anvisa said on Saturday.

“A day previously, Sao Paulo’s Butantan Institute, a local biomedical center founded by the state government, sent an alert to Anvisa. The institution was to fill and finalize 25 batches of 12.1 million doses upon their arrival in Brazil, under a partnership with China’s Sinovac.

“Another 17 batches, totaling 9 million doses produced in the same plant, were on their way to Brazil, Butantan told the regulator.

“The regulator has now issued a 90-day ban and is investigating the plant and the manufacturing process.”

[cont.]
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kalbokalbs

Japan recall, ban or whatever it was, was Pfizer injections manufactured in Spain. IIRC.

Looking forward to more injection bans / recalls.

singingsoul1

Where is the vaccine made that we are supposed to take?

I also have a theory why the German vaccine was approved by the FDA for use before all tests are done on Pfizer. Have no proof but makes sense to me.
Reinhard Fuehlmich and other lawyers and doctors are preparing a Nuremberg type of lawsuit against the so called vaccines.
My hunch is the evil doers are trying to get ahead of the lawsuit. This has become an international effort by lawyers under German Reinhard Fuehlmich. He is like a dog with a bone after those who are responsible for this man made disaster against humanity.

Emeraldstar

It makes sense, Singing.

They are DEATHLY afraid of the Nuremberg Code – an unopposed International Law in effect (with *teeth*) for over 70 years.

They’re skerred …

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singingsoul1

Sooner or later they have to answer and it will not be pretty.

mollypitcher5

Hey wait a minute…didn’t Red Jen say we had lots of leverage and how cooperative and nice the new improved terrorists are ? I’m sure she said that

singingsoul1

The State department has blood on their hands. What is that a kick back scheme ?

trumpismine

Another feather in the cap of the Bye-Done- Diddit and his deep dodo state, Looosers!
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TheseTruths

A hostage situation was predicted here the day this all went down.

Gateway Pundit: SIX PLANES in Northern Afghanistan NOW HELD HOSTAGE BY TALIBAN — Filled with Americans and Afghan SIV Holders #BidenEffect

As reported earlier, several retired Special Forces and US Veterans traveled to Afghanistan to rescue and bring the people Americans home that Joe Biden left stranded.

The American heroes reportedly have 6 chartered airplanes (four 737s and two others) on the Tarmac in northern Afghanistan with the people rescued and can’t get the administration’s help.

The planes cannot take off unless the Taliban clears them which can easily be handled with a telephone call. Our heroes and the people they rescued are sitting ducks, hostages of the Taliban, who operate the airport at Mazar-i-Sharif. It’s only a matter of time before they’re targeted. The Taliban want recognition from the US gov’t, in order to receive a lot of money.

Congressman Michael McCaul joined Chris Wallace on FOX News Sunday this morning. Rep. McCaul says the planes will not be allowed to leave until the US recognized the Taliban terrorists as the legitimate government of Afghanistan.

Kevin Moncla has more.

These heroes have the people, four Boeing 737’s and two Airbus 343’s on the tarmac at Mazar-i-Sharif International Airport, but they cannot take off. The Taliban now controls the airspace and they have to grant permission before the planes can depart. Neighboring countries must also provide clearance to allow flights through their airspace.

President Biden could easily negotiate the necessary authorizations with the Taliban but despite 3 days trying to get the White House to help, these veterans have been ignored. As if leaving Americans and Afghani’s behind wasn’t bad enough, the administration is now effectively abandoning those who are putting their lives in danger to bring our people home.

The bottom line is that we have people stranded there and could be killed at any time. Our government has already failed in its most basic and fundamental responsibility to protect Americans. We must demand they do whatever it takes to get our people to safety NOW! Anything less is unacceptable.

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RAC

“the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results”

Israel Preparing to Administer FOURTH Covid Jab to Fight New Variants

singingsoul1

Why do they want to kill their population? Jews are very bright people so why are they doing this?

kalbokalbs

Guessing here. ^^^ Educated IDJITS. ^^^

singingsoul1

This will be worse then the holocaust if they do not stop this.
By the way if the virus keeps mutating will it not kill the non vaccinated Palestinians?
They are creating a super bug.

kalbokalbs

Nice observation.

GA/FL

Dr. Zelenko says do not confuse Israel’s government with Judaism or the Jewish People.  Deal was made with Pfizer for $$$.  

singingsoul1

The government is corrupted. Seems to be a problem around the world.

kalbokalbs

Says something about the PM when contract made. Bibi, IIRC.

GA/FL

Very disappointed. One of his sons is a Rabbi. The video showed a bunch of Rabbis urging vaccination.

Cuppa Covfefe

The current government of Israel and their Klowns, FIBs and nasties belong to the Synagogue of Satan…

Along with Sauros, the Rothschilds, and many other (300?, 1000?, 7000?) of the top evil elite…

phoenixrising

Amen.

ForGodandCountry

A: Because the Israeli political, establishment right made a deal with the devil (ie. hardcore left) who, together, were then able to form a gov’t and therefore were able to oust Netanyahu in exchange for a corrupt neo-con (Naftali Bennett) who is behaving exactly like a leftist.

RedLegLeader68

^^^T.H.I.S.^^^

singingsoul1

It is always the left that causes trouble.

Grandmaintexas

Misplaced trust.

singingsoul1

Sadly so 🙁

kalbokalbs

Once upon a time, not so long ago, I trusted most of our government.

BUT THEN, my EYES OPENED WIDE.

Now I can’t unsee our CORRUPT government, in virtually everything the government does., says, ignores when they should not…

RAC

Ht TGP

mollypitcher5

Thought Pervy Joe went to Wilmington nursing home this weekend. This must be his body double. If he doesn’t mention Beau or claim that he too used to climb power poles it’s a double !

Gingersmom2009

A friend posted 4 hours ago on FB that she just saw Marine 1 and an escort do a fly-by over Mullica Hill (NJ) where all the tornado damage happened a few days ago. It’s all BS.

mollypitcher5

I believe it !

Gingersmom2009

BS and fake footage someplace.

Deplorable Patriot

In a great many places.

Gingersmom2009

Yes.

kalbokalbs

But wait. BiteMe does a “fly over”? Fake news likely fawns over BiteMe being engaged.

Yet, fake news villified W for a Katrina “fly over”.

singingsoul1

 👏  👏  👏 

kalbokalbs

Should MOON BiteMe. It’ll get more press. turning backs is a good thing, but IF not on national news, minimal if any positive comes of it.

But I do cheer them for doing something. BiteMe rates ZERO respect by me.

mollypitcher5

Terrific, Americanistan is almost here

RAC

“Democrat couple charged with voter fraud – claims racist motives”
https://www.lawofficer.com/richard-garrett-voter-fraud/

“A former Clarksville councilman and his wife were indicted on fraud and perjury charges last month according to the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation.
The motives behind this whole investigation and indictment are purely racial and political…” according to a statement by Garrett”

Gingersmom2009

Can’t find Rhinocort (budesonide, in a nasal spray for seasonal allergies) name brand for sale anywhere aside from eBay. If anyone else is searching, Walgreens has a generic. FLCCC is recommending this, along with gargling with certain mouthwashes.

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GA/FL

What are the mouthwashes? Do you have a link to the FLCCC post?

Thanks so much!

Gingersmom2009

It’s a certain ingredient in the mouthwash. I just bought original Scope.

GA/FL

From the link – Gargle – 2 x daily – gargle (do not swallow) antiseptic mouthwash containing cetylpyridinium chloride (e.g. ScopeTM, ActTM, CrestTM), 1% povidone/iodine solution or ListerineTM with essential oils.

Concerned Virginian

CloSys is a mouth rinse for people who have sensitive teeth / gums. I believe it has the ingredients recommended by FLCCC.

GA/FL

Thanks, CV!

Gingersmom2009

They’re updating every few days.

GA/FL

Wow – good. I learned a LOT from this video with Drs. Bartlett, Zelenko and others. https://thehighwire.com/watch/

Grandmaintexas

Me too. Dr. Zelenko is very close to God.

kalbokalbs

The World IS better because Zelenko speaks up often. Delivers solutions to sick folks and preventive information for all interested. Perfect demeanor in interviews.

Gingersmom2009

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kalbokalbs

Wondering.

  • Is this the nasal spray Israel has been using with some success?
  • Is this Rhinocort (budesonide, in a nasal spray for seasonal allergies) a preventive OR after Covid is diagnosed, or both?

Walgreen’s in Carson City has in stock. $13.99. 120 metered sprays. .235 fl oz. Based on adult dosage, thirty day supply.

Gingersmom2009

I have no idea. And now I see that I was mistaken about FLCCC recommending it. I definitely read it someplace but cannot remember where.

kalbokalbs

Collectively we sort this stuff out, far better than the liars in government, health care czars and corrupt medical establishment.

Thanks for all the stuff you post.

Gingersmom2009

The problem is I KNOW I read this someplace, and it had to be someplace reputable or I would not have remembered the info. Perhaps I’ll stumble upon it.

SteveInCO

You could very well have read it someplace as you remember…but that place said a sincere “ooops” and took it down, realizing that they had made a mistake.

Gingersmom2009

I indicated to everyone that I was mistaken about FLCCC. Perhaps I’ll happen upon what I read, or not. In any event, I don’t imagine my simple mix-up over an OTC nasal spray is likely to sentence me to a fiery eternity. And no one I was conversing with threw any gratuitous vulgarity my way.

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SteveInCO

I know when I have one of those “I could swear I read that SOMEWHERE, dammit” moments I get suspicious of censorship.

But I have to remember the source could have simply changed its mind in the light of better info, too.

Unfortunately the two cases are impossible to tell apart sometimes. I think it was the Sandy Hook shooting where there was a big conspiracy theory that it was completely staged, and one of the pieces of evidence for that was a news report that the “wrong” type of weapon was found somewhere or other, that got retracted almost immediately. So was it “oh shit we shouldn’t have let that slip” or “oops, that was an honest mistake of a report?”

I actually consider the latter quite likely; in the early moments of something like this things actually CAN get garbled even by sincere parties.

Gingersmom2009

So you really don’t compute? I have nothing whatsoever to say to you, going forward.

SteveInCO

OK, maybe I lost track of something in this convo, but that’s no reason for you to storm off in another one of your huffs.

Gingersmom2009

No huff at all. When you call someone a bitch, and tell them to go to hell – that pretty much seals the deal in my circle. 👍🏻

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SteveInCO

So why engage me at all THIS time?

Gingersmom2009

I didn’t – you weren’t part of the back and forth. You engaged me. And I’m not getting drawn into this any further. If you wish to embarrass yourself, and the blog owner, by continuing . . . it is what it is.

SteveInCO

Yep, you’re completely right.

I had forgotten about that altercation, which resulted from you levelling dishonest accusations against me then doubling down on them when I challenged you on them.

I’ll endeavor to remember that in the future and not make the mistake of assuming you’re a reasonably upright and well intentioned person ever again.

kalbokalbs

May want to slow down, take a few deep breaths, go back and read the posts in sequence. Nothing bad was posted to you.

Gingersmom2009

Not today.

SteveInCO

And no one I was conversing with threw any gratuitous vulgarity my way.

You also didn’t go attacking people for no goddamn good reason this time then double down on it when challenged.

BillBeakman

Dr. Bartlett’s Suggested Full Treatment Protocol for COVID 19
Budesonide 0.5-1mg/2ml respules
Sig:1 respule q 2 hours PRN severe symptoms Dispense 2 boxes
Clarithromycin 500mg Sig:1 Tab PO BID with food Dispense 14. Refills X 1
Zinc 50mg
Sig:1 PO QD
Dispense 30 Refills X 1
For Adults
Coated Aspirin 81mg Sig:1 PO QD
Dispense 90 Refills X 3
https://theplantstrongclub.files.wordpress.com/2021/05/bartlett_full-protocol.pdf

This is the protocol created by Dr. Richard Bartlett with which he cleared his E.R. Of covid cases early on in the plannedemic.
He’s interviewed at the hour 1 time mark in this vid:
https://thehighwire.com/watch/

Gingersmom2009

TY I will watch this in a few minutes. It’s another doc using budesonide via nebulizer, and very early on it seems. Just horrifying how people had to suffer such a death, if they were not fortunate enough to have a courageous doctor. The horror never lessens.

BillBeakman

“Crimes against humanity”

BB

FLCCC is NOT recommending budesonide nasal spray. Instead they are talking about INHALED budesonide. It comes as an inhaler but also nebulized treatments which would work much better for lung issues related to COVID. Both of the inhaled forms of budesonide are prescription only.

Gingersmom2009

Sorry. I think I have mixed this up with Dr. McCullough’s recommendation. (or not 🙄) I have to check. They’re talking about nasal rinse with diluted IODINE, or inhaling Vick’s vaporub in steam like we did as kids.

Gingersmom2009

Now I really have to find out where I read this, about the Rhinocort I mean. 🤔

kalbokalbs

Blew through FLCCC 61 page document by searching for “Budesonide”
Five instances of, Budesonide. Each preceded with “inhaled”.
I’m not seeing the recommendation to use the inhaled budesonide.
IF I missed a key point or two, please do correct me.

Nothing for Rhinocort.

—-.

As BB points out, need a script.
Quick search on Walgreen’s, Amazon and Wally World for budesonide inhaler yielded no results.
Walgreen’s and Wally World may very well stock the inhaler in the pharmacy and it doesn’t show in generic searches.

Concerned Virginian

Budesonide nasal spray is available on Amazon.
BUT —
Budesonide is CONTRAINDICATED for people who have GLAUCOMA and/or CATARACTS. People with these conditions can use Budesonide ONLY under close MD supervision.

Gingersmom2009

The nasal spray is OTC. Inhaler/nebulizer is Rx.

Gudthots

Another way to shop is to type “budesonide nasal spray” into the search box at https://goodrx.com (add your location for better results).

Gingersmom2009

I have it sitting at the counter for pick-up at a Walgreens – but now that I can’t find where I actually read about it, I’m on the fence with it. I’m sure it can’t hurt – it’s the right ingredient and fall allergy season is almost upon us. 🙂

Gudthots

I think it’s just another tool in the toolkit to help us in our quest for options if illness strikes and we trust self-care more than the DEM-body-count ICU-death-camps.

Gingersmom2009

👍🏻

mollypitcher5

The first of probable lifetime payments. Come one come all

singingsoul1

The kids do not speak English does it mean they have to hire a translator for the different dialects spoken?
I used to hear from in laws that immigrant kids went to school mixed with other kids no translator and they had to learn the language.

mollypitcher5

Who knows? Money is no stumbling block to anything immigrant/refugee/illegal.

singingsoul1

It is mind boggling

TheseTruths

That’s our money.

kalbokalbs

Freshly printed and borrowed from China.

Almost as if, BiteMe is in china’s pocket. Which he is.

mollypitcher5

I think Ozero, Rice, Jarrett…all of them will be very happy with this arrangement to see the islamic caliphate rise while America pays.

ForGodandCountry

Islamic extremists, each and every one of them

singingsoul1

Obama McCain and some others did the same and we saw the misery they brought upon people. These people are criminals I am speaking about Biden and his ilk cunning the government without fear of consequences because our republican reps are weenies.

RedLegLeader68

Therefore, using the logic of our esteemed math and physics professors here, then the sum of the equation is = Bin Laden is not dead.

Oh, and Biden didn’t win!

Itswoot

Deep State and Cabal = Lies, Inc.
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Deplorable Patriot

Deplorable Patriot

trumpismine

Impressive 😍 

RedLegLeader68

Yes, but not so much on the “Trump/Pence” sign. Let’s just go with PDJT and put good ole Mike behind bars. Just sayin … 😎

phoenixrising

I was troubled by that also Red

singingsoul1

Wow 🙂

Wolf Moon

Hospital debunks story that claimed ‘gunshot victims left waiting’ because of ivermectin overdoses

https://www.theblaze.com/news/hospital-debunks-ivermectin-overdose-story

An Oklahoma hospital corrected the record Saturday after the mainstream media pushed a false story claiming “gunshot victims” had been turned away after experiencing a surge of patients who purportedly overdosed on ivermectin.

What is the background?

Rolling Stone published a headline that said, “Gunshot Victims Left Waiting as Horse Dewormer Overdoses Overwhelm Oklahoma Hospitals, Doctor Says.”
The story was built on a single interview that Oklahoma-based physician Dr. Jason McElyea gave to KFOR-TV. In that interview, McElyea claimed “the [emergency rooms] are so backed up that gunshot victims were having hard times getting to facilities where they can get definitive care and be treated” because people with COVID-19 are allegedly overdosing on ivermectin.
The claim was widely circulated by Democrats and the mainstream media, including the New York Times (which linked to KFOR’s story), The HillNewsweekThe GuardianInsider, and even MSNBC host Rachel Maddow.

What is the truth?

The hospital that KFOR stated McElyea was associated with — Northeastern Health System – Sequoyah — released a statement Saturday revealing that McElyea is “not an employee” there, and explained the hospital has not experienced a single case of ivermectin overdose.
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Although Dr. Jason McElyea is not an employee of NHS Sequoyah, he is affiliated with a medical staffing group that provides coverage for our emergency room. With that said, Dr. McElyea has not worked at our Sallisaw location in over 2 months.

NHS Sequoyah has not treated any patients due to complications related to taking ivermectin. This includes not treating any patients for ivermectin overdose.

All patients who have visited our emergency room have received medical attention as appropriate. Our hospital has not had to turn away any patients seeking emergency care. We want to reassure our community that our staff is working hard to provide quality healthcare to all patients. We appreciate the opportunity to clarify this issue and as always, we value our community’s support.

In an interview with KXMX-FM, hospital administrator Stephanie Six reaffirmed what the statement said.
“We at NHS-Sequoyah have not seen or had any patients in our ER or hospital with ivermectin overdose,” Six said. “We have not had any patients with complaints or issues related to ivermectin.”
“I can’t speak for what he has witnessed at other facilities but this in not true for ours,” she explained. “We certainly have not turned any patients away due to an overload of ivermectin related cases. All patients who have come into our ER have been treated as appropriate.”

GA/FL

Rolling Stone and Maddow are malicious liars – TRASH.

Wolf Moon

Yup.

Gudthots

And they don’t care if they hurt the reputation of a local hospital.

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. That fake news has REALLY grown legs over here.

The “ungeimpfed” are getting blamed for EVERYTHING. Not long before we’ll have to wear a blue (or purple, or whatever) star…

Nuremberg II MUST included the YSM/MCM and all their minions and masters. They willingly (for the most part) aided and abetted this whole scam….

trumpismine

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RedLegLeader68

Oooooo … this is pretty BRUTAL! Just sayin … 😉

trumpismine

For Steve
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trumpismine

BTW
Just got done reading your post from yesterday, 1 of your best ever IMHO

SteveInCO

Thanks…it kind of went all over the place (admittedly sophomoric [but felt Oh So Good] rant about China, gripe about abuse of the term false flag, and then physics) and so I wonder if you might be responding to something in particular. If so what was it?

kalbokalbs

Not directed at me. The rant about China always enjoyed. FF also appreciated. As for physics, I am a lost cause. Early on I tracked pretty well. The moon stuff, Apollo also made sense and was enlightening for me.

Rather sure there are several if not many smarter folks that are enjoying the continuing physics lessons. Even though I can’t follow many, I know it IS cool stuff for folks to understand.

SteveInCO

With respect to the physics, unfortunately we’ve stepped into a realm where someone jumping in late (no, I’m not talking about anyone in particular, just hypothetical) is a bad idea; it all builds on prior weeks now.

Gudthots

So, having a working short term memory might come in handy, no?
Sure am seeing a lot of people struggling with memory issues these days.

trumpismine

Oh the rant was great and the physics was spellbinding just very entertaining reading

SteveInCO

Cool! I hope you’ve been following the whole series. (If not, Wolf has been posting them in the sidebar.)

trumpismine

I have, but the Saturday read is best after a couple cups of coffee

trumpismine

Wolf’s place
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SteveInCO

I don’t know what it was but I could *not* get onto this site all afternoon. Spun forever.

Finally restarted the virtual machine, and no problemo.

I gather from the lack of anyone bailing out to the UTree that I was basically the only one with this issue.

kalbokalbs

Has been working for me. That of course discounts the green orb and bell notifier. My take is they perform when the stars align, so to speak.

cthulhu

It was just being the usual amount of balky and cranky for a while, then — very oddly — it actually worked like other websites, updating relatively quickly. I did each tab twice, I was so startled.

I then went away for a bit and firefox entirely crashed.

When I restarted it, these two tabs did the “infinite respin” thing. I stopped ’em and restarted them a couple of time, then went away for a while, and they seem to be behaving the way they usually do.

SteveInCO

I suspect that there’s something on the page that the browser no likee.

I remember a few days ago tik tok stuff seemed to be a major issue.

cthulhu

It’s back to working like any other website. Refreshing the page only takes a few seconds. Freaky. I don’t trust it.

singingsoul1

I had internet connection problems. Was on for 15 minutes off for 5 and on and on. I would not have noticed a problem with this site.

SteveInCO

Yeah it has been difficult for me to know what was up because of some bad connectivity issues (which aren’t going to go away any time soon; it’s location specific and I post from different locations).

I generally just try loading another site.

singingsoul1

I try that also to test if it the site or the Internet. Internet connection has been funky just interrupt for shot intervals . Must be weather or China interrupting us.
We had lots of rain hope you had better weather ?

SteveInCO

We’ve had some rain, which here is a good thing…this is a semi-arid climate, and we’ve been in drought conditions most of the past 20 years. (Actually this spring was wetter than usual…for the last twenty years…and probably about typical for before then–but little to no moisture since then).

singingsoul1

Our spring and summer was wetter than normal it affected my garden.
There is always next year 🙂

SteveInCO

(I wrote more just above, but as I replied to myself you might not have seen it)

One thing about this place, is we typically get at least one garden-wrecking hailstorm a year, even in my dry part of the county.

1/2 inch hardware cloth mounted on light frames that can be lifted to actually work with the plants does wonders–you just have to remember to tip the frames back down onto the ground when you’re done picking squash or whatever it is…

singingsoul1

I need to be more attentive to the garden, Now is fall stuff in I keep for the whole winter. Our winter are not that cold and I have covers that stay on whole winter. They serve like small geenhouse.

SteveInCO

Revising and amplifying: If you remember two big fires in the Colorado Springs area a few years ago, one that burned four hundred plus homes, then another one just a week or two before the anniversary of the first one that burned even more homes…well, that’s my neck of the woods. I do NOT complain about moisture now and certainly will not rave about how wonderfully mild a winter was, for a long, long time.

Gudthots

When I can’t get a page with comments to load, I remember Wolf suggesting using the main landing page https://theqtree.com to get in and then move around the site from there. Seems to be a good tactic.

SteveInCO

When I suspect someone loaded something bad into a comment, that is what I do try to do. But the main page wouldn’t load either.

Apparently I either needed to restart my browser, or the whole virtual machine. I don’t know which because I simply restarted the virtual machine, which also killed the browser.

Gudthots

I will add that to my “things to try” list.

Sadie Slays

Strange shooting in Florida involving multiple uses of the number 33 and a former veteran claiming he was “communicating directly with God.” Sadly, “God” in this particular case was probably the evil FBI or CIA implanting thoughts in the man’s head via MKULTRA or who knows what kind of technology. A lot of mass shooters have reported “hearing voices” in their head prior to shooting.

Florida gunman killed 4, including mom still holding baby

Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd said during a press conference that even after 33-year-old Bryan Riley was arrested Sunday morning, he was so aggressive that he tried to wrestle a gun from police as he lay on his hospital gurney.

Judd said Riley, a former Marine who served as a sharpshooter in both Iraq and Afghanistan, seemed to have targeted his victims at random and appeared to be suffering from mental health issues. Judd said Riley’s girlfriend told authorities Riley had been slowly unraveling for weeks and repeatedly told her that he could communicate directly with God.

https://apnews.com/article/florida-8bb467238fbcf4f96de5b69c93d044e8

singingsoul1

This Afghanistan episode has affected some vets. Hearing voices is that not schizophrenia? Some vets experience it but not all.

Sadie Slays

I recommend reviewing the Q drops regarding mass shooters, veterans being targeted with MKULTRA, and “hearing voices.” Q claims it’s the CIA, not schizophrenia, that is behind the shootings.
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singingsoul1

Thank you. How horrible.

phoenixrising

WhipLash347
Forwarded from 
Aurax

https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/svg/1f1ee-1f1f1.svg https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/13.1.0/svg/1f1ec-1f1f3.svg Diamonds, Big Mining and Soros: The Fall of Beny Steinmetz, Once Israel’s Richest Man

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/diamonds-big-mining-and-soros-the-fall-of-beny-steinmetz-once-israel-s-richest-man-1.5476031

Swiss Court Finds Israeli Billionaire Steinmetz Guilty of Bribery in Landmark Mining Case

A Geneva court has ruled Israeli businessman Beny Steinmitz and two associates as guilty for offering a 8.5 million dollar bribe in exchange for the rights to mine iron ore in Guinea

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium.HIGHLIGHT-swiss-court-finds-israeli-billionaire-steinmetz-guilty-of-bribery-1.9474428

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kalbokalbs

Wasn’t it Guinea that just had a military coup? Today or yesterday. Coincidence? Nah, I didn’t think so.

phoenixrising

Yes

mollypitcher5

Does anyone think this is some kind of game and that the planes will suddenly receive permission on 9/11 ? Like a big show ?

gil00

As if theyre setting themselves up to be heroes. Yes. But no matter what they arent.

phoenixrising

Linda

Of course they are. Abortion is Molech all over again.

TheseTruths

Unthinkable evil!

gil00

They believe pedofeelya is ok too. Anything is ok. And that makes them evil.

Linda

This is going to be a mess, if true.

General McInerney

TOMORROW: 7 million people will lose COVID unemployment benefits.

kalbokalbs

Clicked on the link. No details? Something seems off.

THIS is a perfect opportunity for corrupt politicians to “save the day”…extending benefits so folks WON’T work. The WRIONG answer, MeThinks.

Would have thought the hundreds of billions in Covid slush funds would keep the Covid unemployment gravy train rolling on.

IF TRUE, there ARE jobs available at virtually every business that I pass daily. Many businesses are operating at reduced capacity BECAUSE THEY CAN’T GET EMPLOYEES.

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SteveInCO

Absolutely true.

I had to reschedule my last dental cleaning as it conflicted with a trip I couldn’t move and didn’t want to cancel.

I was told that the next available slot was in December (!!!!) and that’s because they can’t find a second dental hygienist to take some of the load off the first one.

Luckily they had a cancellation the week before the trip, and I took that.

para59r

This
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/az-state-senator-wendy-rogers-audit-coming-guys-promise-real-keep-faith/

And This
https://www.abc15.com/news/state/doj-investigation-into-phoenix-police-city-what-could-change

Add them together and I see this.

DOJ descended on Phoenix, AZ early last month to conduct investigation of civil rights cases. (Me…”Oh really, hadn’t heard of anything important happening in the news this year that warrants such, no new Ferguson thing, nada, nothing.”).

On August 5, Attorney General Merrick Garland said his team will examine whether the department uses excessive force, retaliates against protesters, discriminates against minorities, or violates the rights of individuals experiencing homelessness or a mental crisis.

They (DOJ) are doing a teleconference to reach out to citizens affected along with doing ride alongs with PPD. All very unusual moves.

Experts though are quick to point out that no chief really wants the federal government to launch lengthy investigations aimed at finding flaws and failures within the department.

“It’s going to be painful,” said Dr. Jeff Hynes, a retired Phoenix police commander and current Justice professor at Glendale Community College. “But part of the painful aspect of this journey will be the improvement for our community, our city, our state, and the nation as a whole.”

So what’s up. Why would Garland want to be in Phoenix? Oh.. wait isn’t Phoenix the hub of Maricopa County?

So what could they effect if they twisted a few arms in the Phoenix Police Dept.?
We know Garland tried everything he could to stop the Audit, but he had no legal recourse.

Wolf Moon

Yes – DODGE featuring KAPO GARLAND was up to no good. IMO they were trying to find some “racism” against Hispanics by which they can put Maricopa County under some kind of federal control, and then try to get control of voting.

Garland is a dirty judge – it’s some kind of LAWFARE move.

Deplorable Patriot

Quick question: the bright spot in the southeastern/southern sky …Jupiter?

I took Ying out, and that doesn’t look like a star.

SteveInCO

I believe so. And look a ways to the west/right and you’ll see a somewhat bright “star” that is actually Saturn. Relative to the background stars, Jupiter moves (very roughly) twice as fast as Saturn, from west to east.

Run that movie backwards and you get back to the Great Conjunction last December.

Deplorable Patriot

There was another bright spot in the eastern sky earlier that I was wondering about.

They move east to west?

SteveInCO

*scrambles to go back and read what he wrote*…No, I wrote west to east against the background stars and that is correct (most of the time). It is always true of the moon, too, and for that matter the sun appears to move west to east as well.

This is obscured, of course, by the fact that the background stars appear to move much faster, east to west, due to the earth’s rotation. But if you actually make a drawing of a superior (planet whose orbit is outside earths–Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptun) planet’s position among the stars, from night to night, it will clearly be moving left on your drawing (northern hemisphere–ozzy can hopefully adjust) from one night to the next.

There is a situation where the earth is lapping the other planet in its orbit and it can actually reverse direction, go east to west, then change back to west-to-east; this is called retrograde. But the main, predominant motion is west to east. Plot for longer times and you’ll see that.

To answer your first paragraph last (in keeping with the backward-icity of the site): I’m not sure what that other bright spot could have been. Saturn would be west from Jupiter.

I have no idea where Mars is without going and looking.

Deplorable Patriot

Okay, I will keep an eye out for that.

I thought maybe the one I caught three hours ago was a different planet. The Jupiter spot I’ll have to watch.

SteveInCO

If it’s overhead about midnight it will probably be in retrograde. And I think it might be overhead about that time.

I see really bright stuff in the east a lot here, that doesn’t appear to be moving. But it’s an oncoming airplane, without fail as I will discover if I sit and wait long enough.

Another tip: Planets do not twinkle, stars usually will. (If they’re not twinkling that’s the night to haul out a telescope…)

Deplorable Patriot

That’s why I thought it was a planet.

Around here, my best bet for a telescope is two hours east in Illinois where it’s perfectly flat and there’s no light other than the burnoff from the oil rigs on various farms.

SteveInCO

Yeah, I wouldn’t bother with one in a large city!

Deplorable Patriot

Now, now. A neighbor had a BIG telescope at one point, and we looked at Jupiter and its moons. That was around the corner.

SteveInCO

Ah, but Jupiter’s moons are easy. Galileo, after all, saw them through an absolutely crappy telescope.

If you want to check out deep sky objects like nebulae and galaxies, you’re much better off away from the lights. One famous object, the Ring Nebula, was absolutely impossible from my house in town but readily doable with the same scope out in the country.
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(Note: I don’t get enough light in either place to actually see appreciable color.)

(Of course, a sufficiently yuge telescope can overcome that, but that just means it’d be even more awesome in a dark sky. What was the diameter of this one?)

Deplorable Patriot

Yeah, I know. Drive across southern Illinois just after twilight and you can see the Milky way.

The next solar eclipse the best spot to see it will be in the southern part of Illinois. We’re a little too far north.

SteveInCO

There’s one in the 2040s I will be able to see from my yard.

If I am still alive.

cthulhu

If you have the inclination, there is a program that can help you analyze what you are seeing. It runs on Apples, Windows, Linux, and suchlike and the price is right. https://stellarium.org/

SteveInCO

Life hack…I have a needle and thread that I generally use to re-stitch buttons that are coming loose.

The longest part of the dang process is getting the thread through the eye of the needle, which can be a half hour struggle. Hard to see what I’m doing, but then sometimes it’s clear the thread is actually hitting the eye of the needle and just won’t go through.

kalbokalbs

And every year, sending the thread through the eye of the needle, it is seemingly more difficult, frustrating. 🙂

SteveInCO

Of course, right after I tried again, having posted my gripe…it went through. Job done.

wheatietoo

There is a little needle threader tool that comes in real handy:
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But you can use a bent piece of thin wire to do the same thing.
 😊 

cthulhu

That’s one of the cheapie kind.

wheatietoo

Yes…but it works great, even on sewing machine needles.
 😁 

cthulhu

I’ve only seen one of the more expensive kind, but we have the others scattered in every room of this place.

SteveInCO

Hm…I might actually HAVE one of those…but I don’t recall the wire loop being on it, so it’d be a dunsel.

Deplorable Patriot

ONE of those? I have at least half a dozen…somewhere.

SteveInCO

Yes, I do have one, and on further examination it has the wire loop on it. (It even has the person’s profile stamped in it)

I have a small piece of cardboard with six or seven threads wound around it and the threader was wrapped under all of that. I could see the body of the thing but never noticed the wire loop.

So THANK YOU, Wheatie!!

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cthulhu

That’s why you have a needle-threader.

There are two kinds that I know of — the expensive and the cheap. The cheap kind is a little piece of plastic about the size of a quarter with a little loop of wire sticking out of one corner. You stick the wire loop through the eye of the needle, push your thread through the wire loop, and pull the wire loop back out of the eye.

The expensive kind works using some alien technology from Area 51.

Itswoot

“But the man on TV said…”

Nurse blows the lid off the pandemic of the unvaccinated narrative.

Undaunted courage.

There is an embedded video in this article:

https://www.redvoicemedia.com/2021/09/nurse-blows-the-lid-off-the-pandemic-of-the-unvaccinated-narrative/

RF121

So I had some prior discussions regarding officers in the military. Wanted to give a shout out to my last division officer. LTJG Tripp. He turned out to be gay and was one of the first two victims of Andrew Cunnan in the Versace murders. Tripp is on the left in the photo. RIP.

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cthulhu

Jeffrey Trail? According to Wikipoo, he was only 28 when Cunanan killed him.

Gingersmom2009

Aside from Judy Wood’s work, what can I watch re: 9/11?

Wolf Moon
Gingersmom2009

Clicking but it doesn’t do anything, and I know less than nothing about remedying. 🤔

Wolf Moon

Try right-clicking, copy video address, and play it in a tab by itself. The link should end in .mp4

Gingersmom2009

It’s here all of a sudden. 👍🏻

Wolf Moon

Excellent! Glad it finally played!

Itswoot

It sounds like explosives being detonated. Also, I didn’t see a plane. I also looked for one coming in from between the two towers.

Itswoot

I counted 5-6 separate explosive sounds. The distance from the tower to the person filming it would account for the delay of sound after seeing the fireballs. Makes it more believable that it wasn’t faked.

Wolf Moon

Yes, it’s very convincing, and it integrates perfectly into my data set.

I don’t go into the details of my data set too much, because the people who did 9/11 have invested millions if not billions of dollars in tamping down questions about it. There are thousands of loose ends they have missed, and what they do is wait for people to find and broadcast those loose ends, and then cover them up using “reactive disinformation”.

Q is the beautiful strategy that beats their game.

So I just get people to ask questions PAST the monitors, and then cherish the loose ends without broadcasting them.

So when you find some loose ends – like little cairns along the trail – just leave them – but take notes – bookmark them – and then later you can HINT at them in ways that the other side can’t find or “fix”.

bflyjesusgrl

I recorded and watched a BUNCH of 9/11 shows last year. There are more vidoes of the 2nd plane hitting than the 1st. I do remember noticing for the 1st time, huge plane parts and pieces on the street at the base of one of the buildings. Both the History Channel and Discovery will be running 9/11 shows all day Saturday. Discovery shows focus more on the 1st responders, it might be Firehouse 10 where I saw all the parts.

Wolf Moon

The SECOND PLANE is key.

Wolf Moon

It really sounds like you are on a productive path!

Itswoot

It is looking more certain to me that 9/11 was an inside job by the Deep State / Cabal, which was done to usher in a surveillance state through the resulting Patriot Act, and with more to follow.

cthulhu

First, that played for me — what the heck kind of video content was it?

Second, lots of black smoke from the first tower — most of the jet fuel was probably gone and it was burning actual contents.

Third, the video’s POV was shifting leftward, a carlength or so at a time, intermittently.

Fourth, it appears to be about the time the second tower was hit.

I mean, what kind of analysis did you have in mind?

Wolf Moon

What I’m going to say is not flippant – it’s deadly serious.

You have to figure it out yourself to arrive at (roughly) the same conclusion independently. If I try to lead you, you won’t believe yourself at the end. You really have to commit to wanting to know the truth.

This is like “Linux for geeks” – you WILL get this.

Let me explain.

I used to be a believer of the “standard model of 9/11” until somebody HERE hit me with a question.

“Did you see the planes hit the buildings? Ask yourself the question – did you see the planes hit the buildings?”

None of the arguments – none of the conspiracy theories – none of the “truthers” had ever changed my mind. Oh, no – that stuff was all sad BS, I was quite sure.

*I* changed my mind by applying science to all the facts, and realizing that my honest answer to that question is NO. I did NOT see the planes hit the buildings.

So did they hit the buildings?

Following RATIONALLY from that reality, and PROVING to myself whether or not “the planes” hit the buildings, I was led to my current views on 9/11. They are definitely non-standard.

I did have an advantage over the “videographic theorists” of 9/11. They postulate that certain NYC area network videographers were “dirty” on the plot.

I had the advantage of knowing that two or three of them WERE DEFINITELY “dirty” in a complex event almost exactly 20 years before 9/11.

And now look at the fake news, 20 years later.

I would not go down the rabbit hole of 9/11 unless you want to spend about a week’s time on intense research – skeptical both ways – of the question – did the planes hit the buildings?

This video by itself cannot get you there. All it can do is bother you a little bit. But if it does, that is my purpose! 😃

cthulhu

Actually…..

The problem is that I have a keen awareness of how that sort of analysis should be done, and the resources that would be necessary and expended.

But when I cut to the chase, such analysis would merely serve to illustrate that there is a malignant Cabal of actors who are perfectly willing to construct false narratives, kill people to drive them, and explode economies in their name. And I already know that.

Finding a plane or a length of det cord really doesn’t change anything — two towers were reduced to smoldering rubble with a number of people inside, many others ran out through the exits and were engulfed in clouds of carcinogenic dust. The WTC did a bit of urban renewal. And everyone in government or the media (BIRM) went into flaming hysterics for a couple of decades.

I neither believe that any official narrative is true nor false, because the effort to discern the difference is non-negligible and neither would change my opinion of the actors involved.

RAC

Assuming the plane hit the side away from the camera and we are looking at the side opposite that where the explosion/fire burst through.
Think it was said to be an engine or some other solid part went right through the building and carried on for some way, it shows on some videos.
On this video it should be coming more or less toward the camera, but I have rapid clicked through it several times and cannot see it.

Wolf Moon

Keep researching. You’re on the right track.

RAC

After the fire has burst through the 2nd tower there is some gray smoke associated with it on the lower side of the flames/dark smoke. But there is also separate gray smoke coming up from much lower down, plainly to see rising between the two towers.

RAC

Several views here, #8 FDR Drive is a very similar angle to yours.

Itswoot

#8 FDR drive is more than similar, it is the same person taking the video. The “Oh, my God” in the audio is the same.

One version with a plane, one without.

I bet if comparisons were made to other videos with buildings being demolished with explosives, you’d likely find a close match on the audio.

Itswoot

Add at the end of first sentence:

“…is the same in both videos.”

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RAC

Good grief ! So which video is right ? My first assumption re the plane hidden by the building must be wrong. I was so concentrating on the building I didn’t even notice the plane in the second video.

Itswoot

“So which video is right ?”

I’m betting on the video without the plane that Wolf Moon posted. The audio of what sounds to me like explosives being detonated convinces me of that.

In the 18 video compilation you posted, I’m convinced that those who spoke of a plane coming towards the 2nd tower were in on the scam. They knew the timing of the explosives being detonated and had their video cameras at the ready and positioned to have multiple ‘proofs’of the plane hitting the tower. It was all an act with rehearsed parts to play.

There never was a plane hitting either tower. It was all altered fiction, and the fakestream media was a part of pushing the faked events.

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RAC

Going back a long while I remember a video that showed a long shot of the towers then zoomed closer as the plane hit. But the long shot showed a very wide area of sky with no plane in sight, Do you remember that one ?

Itswoot

No, I don’t. Maybe a memory issue on my part.

Wolf Moon

Yes – the videographic theorists do an excellent analysis of this.

That film was shot from a news helicopter. I found the arguments that the plane was “layered into the shot on a timer” (that’s not the industry terminology, but that’s basically what they’re saying) extremely convincing.

It was not done perfectly, and the mistakes in the layering showed through.

RAC

Wonder if that one (original&unaltered) is still out there somewhere.

Wolf Moon

My take as well.

See? This is why science by independent groups creates rock-solid perspectives. People come at it in different ways with different weightings of the evidence, and provide new aspects to each other.

RAC just got to where I got at the beginning of my journey by different means.

Now – here is the kicker. The video without a plane is not actually necessary for the whole standard model to crash and burn, but it provides a nice path into the deception. If you HYPOTHESIZE video deception by a small group of infiltrators, with MOST video lies being done in post-production, but the very few “crucial confirmers” in live-action artifice which has “aged into obvious fakery over 20 years” (basically the standpoint of the videographic theorists), then you will eventually find a TON of inconsistencies and loose ends which support the videographic theory beautifully.

Itswoot

The twin towers could not have been brought down just by a plane loaded with full jet fuel tanks. Controlled detonation of explosives was the only way. The problem would have been to synchronize the timing of a plane arrival and impact at an exact location with the timed multiple explosions going off. It couldn’t be done, or at the least was far too unreliable, so the plane(s) had to be fake added into the videos.

The flight 93 crash was real, and maybe also the Pentagon being crashed into by a plane.

I remember a report that when the World Trade Towers were constructed, the steel beams were wrapped in a fire-proof material to prevent damage to them in the event of a fire with intense heat. It was also reported that the material was removed from the beams not long prior to the ‘planes hitting the towers’, and was a reason given for their collapse after the planes hit them.

I bought the lie and remember being quite mad at the people who were alleged to have removed the protective fire wrapping from the steel beams which caused the towers to collapse.

Itswoot

Some of the reactions in the 18 videos where there was no mention of a plane were genuine. They were a reaction to the explosions coming from within the 2nd towers.