DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20231130

Badlands News Brief – November 29, 2023

Elon Musk’s ‘Pizzagate’ Post Sets X Ablaze, Fuels Speculation

Maybe the conspiracy people were right all along about a whole lot of stuff.

Hispanics Reject Biden’s Agenda

Deep State circles the wagons to fend off a Trump nuclear attack that would’ve blown up their entire scheme…

Covid Fear-Mongering: “It’s Changing — It’s Killing”

L’etat, c’est Pfizer

However, the defendants – at least the two Pfizer defendants, senior board member and former Food and Drug Administration commissioner Dr. Scott Gottlieb and chairman Dr. Albert Bourla, DVM – are taking this case very personally indeed.

The good doctors are shocked a mere journalist would have the audacity to question their motives and accuse them of wrongdoing. Shocked, I tell ya.

The Case That Could Destroy the Government

Boy Publicly Shamed by Journalist For Wearing Native American Headdress is Actually Native American

More than 3,000 auto dealers sign letter opposing Biden’s electric vehicle mandate

A Cancer on Modern Journalism

Ireland makes a new law that takes tyranny to a whole new disturbing level…

Carron Phillips: Deadspin reporter who wrongly claimed young Kansas City Chiefs fan was wearing ‘blackface’ receives backlash

TWEETS!

VIVA ESPANA!

https://twitter.com/cindysterlingw1/status/1729648596490817638

Time for the Irish to live up to their reputations.

💕💕💕

MEMES and FUN STUFF:

https://twitter.com/Yoda4ever/status/1729911787653595271

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  1. No food fights
  2. No running with scissors
  3. If you bring snacks, be sure they are made with bacon

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ROMANS 10:9-18

9because, if you confess with your lips that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For man believes with his heart and so is justified, and he confesses with his lips and so is saved. 11The scripture says, “No one who believes in him will be put to shame.” 12For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; the same Lord is Lord of all and bestows his riches upon all who call upon him. 13For, “every one who calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved.” 14But how are men to call upon him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without a preacher? 15And how can men preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach good news!” 16But they have not all obeyed the gospel; for Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed what he has heard from us?” 17So faith comes from what is heard, and what is heard comes by the preaching of Christ. 18But I ask, have they not heard? Indeed they have; for “Their voice has gone out to all the earth, and their words to the ends of the world.”

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SATIRE

The COVID-19 “Vaccines” Pave the Way for Turbo-Cancers: And a Note on the Virus Itself

The above chart listing is from a Pfizer-BioNTech document obtained via FOIA, showing the IgG binding results of a few of the C4591001 human test subjects for the company’s “flagship” COVID-19 “vaccine”, BNT162b2. The document was given to the FDA on 19 September 2020. BNT162b2 was granted the initial EUA for use in the United States in December 2020.

This series on the disaster of COVID-19 and the COVID-19 “vaccines” is dedicated to Yours Truly’s cousin Bill, who “died suddenly and unexpectedly” in September 2023.

Today’s offering will present and discuss some aspects of the emergence of “turbo-cancers” that appear in people who get injections of the COVID-19 “vaccines” (actually, gene therapy shots.) Today’s presentation is not an “magnum opus” compilation, but rather an adjunct to more understanding of the issue. It will not discuss the presence of the SV40 cancer promoter code that was discovered recently in the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines” — that is an issue to be addressed in another post. What will be presented today is the role of IgG4-engendered cancer onset and/or relapse due to “vaccination” by the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines.”

Without “wearying by recitals”, the story begins with a short presentation on the Ig system of the human body. This system consists of five different Ig cell types: IgM; IgD; IgA; IgE, and IgG. IgA and IgG cells can be divided into subclasses. What are called “subclass switches” within the IgA class and IgG class are regulated via interaction with the T cells of the human body. The Ig system is basically an infection-fighter system. It needs to be in balance in order for this work to be successfully performed. Imbalances of the Ig system can result in the incidence of various medical disease conditions, such as autoimmune diseases and asthma. Some people have inherited imbalances of their Ig system. Today’s offering will confine itself to the IgG class.

The IgG class of cells can be divided into four separate subclasses: IgG1; IgG2; IgG3; and IgG4. Robert H. Pointer wrote the following regarding the IgG class in general: “Firstly, IgG neutralizes pathogens such as viruses and bacteria by binding to key pathogen surface proteins and preventing interaction of the pathogen with host cells. In doing so, the antibody [of the IgG cell] neutralizes the ability of the pathogen to enter host cells and replicate.” (Encyclopedia of Immunology, Second Edition, 1998, “Immunoglobulin G” chapter; bolding is mine.)

Please read those two sentences above by Prof. Pointer again. Now look again at the chart at the top of today’s offering, which shows the high binding ability of the Pfizer-BioNTech modRNA COVID-19 “vaccine”, BNT162b2, to the cells of the human subjects who took this “vaccine” in the C4591001 clinical trial of said “vaccine.” This is the same BNT162b2 “vaccine” formula that was granted the initial EUA by the FDA in December 2020 for use in the United States. It is also the same BNT162b2 “vaccine” formula (under both the name, “Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine” and under the name, “COMIRNATY”) that was used in the United States until the spring of 2023, at which time it was removed from use in this country and was substituted with the “2023-2024 Formula COVID-19 Vaccine” by the same company. BNT162b2 is still used in other countries. It appears that two of the main goals of BNT162b2 (a modRNA COVID-19 “vaccine”) were, and are (both in the BNT162b2 “vaccine”, AND in the basic formulation of the current “2023-2024 Formula COVID-19 Vaccine”), to evade the “vaccine” recipient’s natural IgG class cells’ “detection and fight” capability; and, to compromise the “vaccine” recipient’s natural IgG class cells’ ability to DENY ACCESS to the “vaccine” into the cells of the recipient’s body (this, via the use of the lipid nanoparticles ALC-0159 and ALC-0315 in these “vaccines.”),

Yours Truly now turns to https://jessicar.substack.com/p/igg4-and-cancer-a-mechanism-of-action, “IgG4 and cancer – a mechanism of action for cancer relapse and onset”, published on 30 December 2022. Dr. Rose describes how IgG4 class cells can, by “class switching” (also called “Fab Arm Exchange”) due to chronic exposure to an antigen, literally “turn around” their normal antibody function of tumor suppression into tumor progression. Dr. Rose then goes on to discuss this phenomenon in light of the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines” and how these injections introduce “highly immunogenic protein” into the body of the “vaccine” recipient, which then induces “continuous antigen stimulation by the injectables’ contents and their by-products” (Italics mine.) She ends her article with: “My take home message: This could be potentiating relapses of cancers previously in remission and also new and rare cancer appearances.” In my opinion, this is particularly troubling, since nobody really knows how long the modRNA, the spike protein, and the ALC-0159 and ALC-0315 lipid nanoparticles remain in the “vaccine” recipient’s body; especially if that “vaccine” recipient continues to get modRNA COVID-19 “vaccine booster shots” to “complete a catch-up series”, or the “2023-2024 Formula COVID-19 Vaccine” made by Pfizer-BioNTech and also by Moderna.

We now turn to the work of Dr. Ryan Cole, the pathologist. He has been sounding the alarm over the presence of turbo-cancers in his modRNA COVID-19 “vaccinated” patients for over a year (and for which, he is now fighting the “professional misconduct charges” that were served against him by the Washington State medical licensing board. Please refer to https://vigilantnews.com/post/turbo-death-from-turbo-cancers-were-in-trouble-says-dr-ryan-cole, from 10 October 2023. Dr. Cole makes it clear that the “vaccines” do not actually cause cancer; they “cause immune suppression. They cause a disruption and a dysregulation of your immune system that normally is what would fight cancer.” (Another way, in my opinion, of saying the IgG4 “class switch” induced by the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines” that turns this class of cells’ normal function of fighting tumors into, instead, allowing tumors to grow.)

The “Vidarsson paper” from 2014 describes the IgG subclasses, what they do, and what can happen when one or more of these subclasses are either deficient or increased too much: www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2014.00520/full, “IgG subclasses and allotypes: from structure to effector functions”, Gestur Vidarsson et al. Please see the section “IgG4” about how the IgG4 subclass works; and the section “IgG4 Fab Arm Exchange.”

IgG4 cells will also change in the unborn child and in its pregnant mother due to modRNA COVID-19 “vaccination.” Here is a graphic showing these changes:

The above graphic is from here: https://doi.org/10.1101/2023.05.01.538955, “Diverging maternal and infant cord antibody functions from SARS-CoV-2 infection and vaccination in pregnancy”, Emily H. Adhikari, et al. From the Introduction: “After mRNA vaccination [of the pregnant mother], the primary form of immunity transferred to the fetus is antibodies, specifically IgG.” (Bolding mine)

Two blog posts by Igor Chudov provide more information. The first is from 21 October 2022: www.igor-chudov.com/p/cancer-rates-are-increasing-and-may, “Cancer Rates are Increasing — and May Get Much Worse.” In this post, Mr. Chudov discusses the 9-sigma increase in cancer rates in the United States and a similar rise in the UK. At the time of this post (a little over one year ago), there was suspicion regarding the reason why the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines” were engendering an increase in cancer diagnoses: the suspicions rested on the use of the “faux” pseudouridine in the “vaccines”; the discovery of “loose DNA” in the “vaccines”; and the genotoxicity of the spike protein itself. By December, 2022, Mr. Chudov was on the trail of the IgG4-induced immune system damage engendered by the “vaccines”: www.igor-chudov.com/p/booster-caused-immune-tolerance-explains, “Booster-Caused IgG4 Immune Tolerance Explains Excess Mortality and “Chronic Covid.” Here, the following paper was referenced regarding the IgG4 “class switch”: www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciimmunol.ade2798, “Class switch towards non-inflammatory, spike-specific IgG4 antibodies after repeated SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccination”, Pascal Irrgang et al. (In other words, a “class switch” to the “tolerate but don’t clear” IgG4 cells.) The latest post by Mr. Chudov on the issue, that is very specific, is from 26 November 2023: www.igor-chudov.com/p/hyperprogressive-cancers-due-to-covid, “‘Hyperprogressive’ Cancers Due to COVID-Vaccine-Caused IgG4 Antibodies.” The take away from this post: “…IgG4 drives malignancy and aggressiveness of the real-life cancers they observed.” Here is a graphic from Mr. Chudov’s post, taken from this paper: https://jitc.bmj.com/content/8/2/e000661, “An immune evasion mechanism with IgG4 playing an essential role in cancer and implication for immunotherapy”, Hui Wang et al.

Finally, there is this: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.mehy.2023.111015, “Potential health risks of mRNA-based vaccine therapy: A hypothesis”, by K. Acevedo-Whitehouse and R. Bruno, published on 25 January 2023. It appears that an important key to understanding the mechanisms of the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines” that can induce sufficient immune system suppression in the “vaccinated” person’s body it that these “vaccines” employ N1-methylpseudouridine. (This ingredient “evades” the body’s natural “immune system defense mechanism.”) The paper also discusses “other contaminants” in the “vaccines” that “…could further alter immune recognition and deregulate immune signalling pathways,…it is not unreasonable to assume that mRNA-based vaccines could induce sustained inflammation and a persistent anti-viral cellular state in various tissues.” (Italics mine) Yours Truly is including a graphic from the paper of what the synthetic RNA “vaccines” do to the cells of the “vaccine” recipient:

Now, as to the COVID-19 virus itself: There are elements within the virus itself that can cause immune system damage; that can change, damage, or destroy B-cells and CD-class cells in the body of the person who contracts a case of the virus; and may have other elements that can pave the way for cancer tumor onset or relapse. Yours Truly refers to this paper, from September 2020 (this was when BNT162b2 was in “clinical trials”): https://doi.org/10.1126/science.abc8511, “Deep immune profiling of COVID-19 patients reveals distinct immunotypes with therapeutic implications”, Divij Matthew et al. Prof. Matthew and his colleagues demonstrate concerning changes in B-cells and CD8 cells in certain COVID-19 infected patients. Certain immunotypes among the patients studied were more affected than others. From the Abstract: “Whereas immunoglobulin G (IgG) levels reportedly drop slightly ~8 weeks after symptom onset (24, 25), recovered patients maintain high spike protein-specific IgG titers (6, 26).” (Bolding mine)

Another view of the toxic properties of the COVID-19 virus itself, especially regarding the inducement of cancer, is here: https://wmcresearch.substack.com/p/sars-cov-2-the-spike-protein-and, “SARS-CoV-2, the Spike Protein and Oncogenesis”, published on 2 November 2023. Walter M. Chesnut discusses his conclusion that the SARS-CoV-2 virus itself, plus its spike protein, change ALL the following body functions: DNA Repair; Cell Division; Apoptosis (natural cell death); Cellular Differentiation; and Cell-Cell Contact/Communication.

So, if the COVID-19 virus itself and its spike protein have properties that can engender the circumstances for cancer tumor onset, growth, and/or relapse, what makes the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines” even more dangerous in this regard? One will point to the use of the ALC-0159 and ALC-0315 lipid nanoparticles in these “vaccines”, which facilitate entry of the “vaccine” ingredients to every cell of the recipient’s body; and, to the use of the N1-methylpseudouridine in these “vaccines” which “evade” the natural “enemy detection and destruction” processes of the “vaccine” recipient’s body.

In Yours Truly’s opinion, it took time, effort, and detailed investigation, to lab-create the SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) virus itself and its spike protein; and, it took time, effort, and detailed investigation, to lab-create and assemble the ingredients (including the COVID-19 virus itself, and its spike protein) that were, and are, present in the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines.” The FDA knew, back in the summer of 2020, and certainly on 30 April 2021, how dangerous the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccine” BNT162b2 was, and is. Please refer to: www.phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/reissue_5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf, FDA time-stamped on 30 April 2021. In fact, the FDA, on that date, knew that at least one IgG4 “class switch” condition was occurring in BNT162b2 “vaccinated” persons — Thrombotic thrombocytopenic purpura (an IgG4 autoimmune disease), listed on page 38 of the report.

Of course, cancer can, and does, occur for other reasons than being engendered by COVID-19 “vaccination” or infection. There are many contributing factors — from genetic predisposition to smoking to accumulated immune system dysfunction, among others. However, while it can be fairly argued that the COVID-19 virus itself, with its spike protein, AND the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines” based on said virus and its spike protein can, and do, engender cancer tumor growth and/or relapse the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines” are more dangerous in this regard. One can posit that it may be valuable for people to learn about family members have/had cancer; what history of cancer “runs in the family”, if any; about family members who have/had immune system issues; and so on. It is absolutely valuable for all people to be in, and remain in, the best physical shape and the best mental-health shape possible. It is absolutely valuable to follow a COVID-19 prevention/prophylaxis protocol.

The compendium post regarding the COVID-19 virus and the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines”, for further reference: www.theqtree.com/2023/11/20/the-covid-19-vaccines-are-dangerous-and-a-caveat-about-the-virus-itself/

Peace, Good Energy, Respect: PAVACA

Dear KAG: 20231129 Open Thread

Cover image: Okefenokee Swamp

https://youtu.be/GVYLedhBcjM?si=0DFPPGU6v0N9kJ41

Never Let a Crisis Go to Waste

Badlands News Brief – November 28, 2023

The Next Year Will See $7.6 Trillion In Government Debt Mature

This isn’t good without something breaking loose.

Major GOP Donors Who Dumped Trump After 2020 Are Coming Back — With Buckets of Cash

The Cost of Engagement Hurts Our Allies and Alliances

By Debating Newsom, Ron DeSantis Proves He Is a Subversive Force on MAGA

He’s actually exposing the vapidness of the GOP.

The Trump grassroots rise again with another showstopper…

The stupidity, delusion and wishful thinking of the GOP’s top donors…

Is this the smoking gun to finally remove Ronna McDaniel?

Pope Francis reportedly takes Vatican apartment, salary from Cardinal Burke

Living in the archdiocese where Burke was really more of a bull in a china shop than not, I’m here to tell you that while the sex scandals were not a part of his time in office here, there were plenty of other issues that popped up. Theology was not one of them, but still, he’s really no different than the rest of the men who truly do enjoy high office in the Church. At the same time, this is petty vindictiveness at its worst.

FDA Shuts Down Enquiries about DNA Contamination in Covid Vaccines

Tweets, X-Posts, Whatever

I’ll be at rehearsal.

Sound up:

Memes & Stuff

https://twitter.com/Yoda4ever/status/1729477632046293502

Have a good day y’all.

(I don’t remember who brought this to a daily in the comments, but thanks.)

And, of course, the obligatory George Carlin:

Per the Boss:

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MARK 10:17-21

17And as he was setting out on his journey, a man ran up and knelt before him, and asked him, “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?” 18And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone. 19You know the commandments: `Do not kill, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and mother.'” 20And he said to him, “Teacher, all these I have observed from my youth.” 21And Jesus looking upon him loved him, and said to him, “You lack one thing; go, sell what you have, and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.”

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Please include: President Donald Trump, the Q team, our soldiers in the field, special forces, tactical units, first responders and those working behind the scenes…and any and all people with family members in the hospital, COVID or not.

And…members of the QTree who no longer participate for one reason or another.

It is quite clear, as per Wolf’s message from July, that we are under spiritual attack. Building up a robust arsenal of prayer and discipline is a must in fighting the enemy and his minions.

In that spirit, the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel from Tuesday’s threads, and the Breastplate of St. Patrick, not to mention the Litany of Humility are favorites recommended by exorcists in spiritual warfare.

SATIRE SECTION

Dear KAG: 20231128 Open Thread

Report: Moderna Engaged in Covert Operations to Control Online Criticism of Vaccines

I’ll criticize it. 18 months after taking one, my mother died of a massive stroke. Everything that she suffered in the last year and a half of her life she claimed was due to that shot.

Asian Brothels That Serviced Military Officials and Politicians Kept “Impeccable Records” as Feds Prepare to Identify “Johns”

Not holding my breath.

Why Kari Lake Is Running for Senate AND Fighting the 2022 Stolen Election

The ‘Complexity’ of Idiocy

Until the 1970, the majority of the people were fit as a fiddle!

Troops Discharged Over COVID-19 Vaccine Refusal Sue US Government For Billions In Lost Wages

OpenAI Tried to Fire Altman Because He Was About to Wake Up the Monster

AI needs to die.

Shatterpoint

Badlands News Brief – November 27, 2023

James O’Keefe Put on ‘SSSS’ List for Extra Screening for Domestic Flights (VIDEO)

Harassment, plain and simple.

Two more Fox News mega-stars morph into “Chris Wallace 2.0” and POUNCE…

They actually think they are relevant.

NewsGuard Is Selling Its Government-Funded Censorship Tool To Private Companies

Tweet hopper:

Well, somebody needs to.

Dr. Lee Merrick said this sometime back.

Meme & Fun hopper:

American?

Something to remember, always.

Per the boss’s instruction:

I’d throw in a few Rockefellers and Rothschilds also.

Of course, this does not mean committing felonies, but standing up to the forces that want to tear this nation – and humanity apart. The very people XVII told us will be destroyed by the time this movie comes to an end are currently roaming the halls of power…supposedly. It’s a sickening sight.

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This site is a celebration of the natural rights endowed to humans by our Creator as well as those enshrined in the Bill of Rights adopted in the founding documents of the United States of America. Within the limits of law, how we exercise these rights is part of the freedom of our discussion.

Fellow tree dweller, the late Wheatie, gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And Auntie DePat’s requests:

If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.

The scroll wheel on your mouse can be your friend. As mature adults, please use it here in the same manner you would in avoiding online porn.

Thank you so much for any and all attention to such details. It is GREATLY appreciated by more than one party here.

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LUKE 21:5-11

5And as some spoke of the temple, how it was adorned with noble stones and offerings, he said, 6“As for these things which you see, the days will come when there shall not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.” 7And they asked him, “Teacher, when will this be, and what will be the sign when this is about to take place?” 8And he said, “Take heed that you are not led astray; for many will come in my name, saying, `I am he!’ and, `The time is at hand!’ Do not go after them. 9And when you hear of wars and tumults, do not be terrified; for this must first take place, but the end will not be at once.” 10Then he said to them, “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; 11there will be great earthquakes, and in various places famines and pestilences; and there will be terrors and great signs from heaven.

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Anonymous ID: hHkrVD7x No.148156632 
Nov 5 2017 20:06:36 (EST)

Anonymous ID: pqW40Wgk No.148156518 
Nov 5 2017 20:05:48 (EST)

>>148154137

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do thou, Prince of the Heavenly Hosts, by the power of God, cast down to Hell Satan and all his evil spirits, who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

>>148156518
Amen brother.
Q

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.

Satire

Dear MAGA: Open Topic 20231127 (Cyber Monday)


Derived From: Dear MAGA: Open Topic 20181123

Via: Dear MAGA: Open Topic 20231124


This SPECIAL CYBER MONDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.

Say what you want, comment on what other people said, comment on people’s comments.  Keep it civil.  Treehouse rules, but expect lots of QAnon.

Today we continue our Thanksgiving Holiday 2023 with the inclusion of the more recent FIFTH DAY of the weekend, CYBER MONDAY. We remain thankful that we still have CASH, and don’t have to pay for things via embedded RFID chips in our hands, and wireless transmitters in our heads.

W

PS – if you bought a firearm this weekend, consider paying for some TRAINING to go with it.  You can NEVER go wrong with professional training WITH your new firearm.  Put enough rounds through it that you know exactly how it behaves.  Then, make sure you have a PLAN for safekeeping of it.  Have a great week!

“Victory begins with a PLAN.”

To Y’All:

This post was based on our emergency Black Friday post. We will return to our regularly scheduled classic Monday posts, in Wolf’s version of Wheatie style, next week.

Hope you had a great Thanksgiving Thursday, Black Friday, relaxing Saturday, and serene Sunday. See you in the comments!

W

Dear MAGA: 20231126 Open Topic

This Rejoice & Praise God Sunday Open Thread, with full respect to those who worship God on the Sabbath, is a place to reaffirm our worship of our Creator, our Father, our King Eternal.

It’s also a place to read, post, and discuss news that is worth knowing and sharing. Please post links to any news stories that you use as sources or quote from.

In the QTree, we’re a friendly and civil lot. We encourage free speech and the open exchange and civil discussion of different ideas. Topics aren’t constrained, and sound logic is highly encouraged, all built on a solid foundation of truth and established facts.

We have a policy of mutual respect, shown by civility. Civility encourages discussions, promotes objectivity and rational thought in discourse, and camaraderie in the participants – characteristics we strive toward in our Q Tree community.

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On this day and every day –

God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up


Hopefully, every Sunday, we can find something here that will build us up a little . . . give us a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.

“This day is holy to the Lord your God;
do not mourn nor weep.” . . .
“Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet,
and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared;
for this day is holy to our Lord.
Do not sorrow,
for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”

Thorns and Grace

Paul speaks of a “thorn in the flesh” in 2 Corinthians 12:7. He calls it “a messenger of Satan” that had a purpose of “torment.” Many explanations have been offered, but whether Paul is referring to a physical, spiritual, or emotional affliction – or something else entirely – hasn’t been answered with satisfaction. Since Paul wasn’t talking of a literal thorn, he must have been speaking metaphorically. Some of the more popular theories of the thorn’s interpretation include temptation, a chronic eye problem, malaria, migraines, epilepsy, and a speech disability. Some even say that the thorn refers to a person, such as Alexander the coppersmith, who did Paul “a great deal of harm” (2 Timothy 4:14). No one can say for sure what Paul’s thorn in the flesh was, but it was a source of real pain in the apostle’s life.

Paul reveals the thorn’s purpose: “To keep me from becoming conceited because of these surpassingly great revelations.” So, God’s goal in allowing the thorn in the flesh was to keep Paul humble. Anyone who had encountered Jesus and was commissioned personally by Him (Acts 9:2-8) would, in his natural state, become “puffed up.” Add to that the fact that Paul was moved by the Holy Spirit to write much of the New Testament, and it is easy to see how Paul could become “haughty” (KJV) or “exalted above measure” (NKJV) or “too proud” (NCV).

Paul also says that the affliction came from or by a “messenger of Satan.” Just as God allowed Satan to torment Job (Job 1:1-12), God allowed Satan to torment Paul for God’s own good purpose.

No one likes to live in pain. Paul sought the Lord three times to remove this source of pain from him (2 Corinthians 12:8). He probably had many good reasons why he should be pain-free: he could have a more effective ministry; he could reach more people with the gospel; he could glorify God even more! But the Lord was more concerned with building Paul’s character and preventing pride. Instead of removing the problem, whatever it was, God gave Paul more overwhelming grace and more compensating strength. Paul learned that God’s “power is made perfect in weakness” (verse 9).

The exact nature of Paul’s thorn in the flesh is uncertain. There is probably a good reason that we don’t know. God likely wanted Paul’s difficulty to be described in general enough terms to apply to any difficulty we may face now. Whether the “thorn” we struggle with today is physical, emotional, or spiritual, we can know that God has a purpose and that His grace is all-sufficient.

Many of the principles of God’s kingdom are paradoxes. When the apostle Paul pleaded with God to remove his affliction – one he called a “thorn in the flesh” – the Lord said to Paul, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness” (2 Corinthians 12:8–9, NKJV), because He delights in taking situations where human strength is lacking to let us see the greatness of His power.

Paul stopped protesting his situation and began to boast and even take pleasure in his weakness so that the power of Christ could work through him: “That is why, for Christ’s sake, I delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions, in difficulties. For when I am weak, then I am strong” (2 Corinthians 12:10). Paul expressed the paradox of his condition – that in his frailty, he was strong because his strength came from Christ.

The words “made perfect” in 2 Corinthians 12:9 mean “fully or entirely accomplished or made complete.” Christ’s power is made complete – it is able to fully accomplish its purpose – when His people are weak and depend on Him for strength. When we, like Paul, stop resisting and complaining and let the power of Christ rest on us, we make room to receive countless unexpected blessings from the Lord. By allowing God’s strength to be made perfect in our weakness, we have the opportunity to display God’s glory flawlessly.

Over and over, the Bible gives examples of God’s strength manifesting when His people are weak. Moses, the great leader of Israel, was deeply aware of his human shortcomings (Exodus 4:10). When the Lord called him to go to Pharaoh, Moses cried, “I’m not adequate. Please send someone else!” But God replied, “Go anyway, Moses, because I will be with you” (see Exodus 4:12–15).

Gideon’s story proves that God can accomplish great things through people who forget about their human weaknesses, trust in God’s strength, and obey His guidance (Judges 6:14–16). And, of course, our most notable biblical example, Jesus Christ, was “crucified in weakness” but “now lives by the power of God” (2 Corinthians 13:4, NLT).

First Corinthians 1:27 teaches, “But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.” We must never shrink away from God because of our weakness but run to Him, letting Him equip and empower us to accomplish His will. We must remember His promise: “He gives strength to the weary and increases the power of the weak. Even youths grow tired and weary, and young men stumble and fall; but those who hope in the LORD will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint” (Isaiah 40:29–31).

When we are in a position of need, it allows us to see how much we need God (2 Corinthians 1:9; 3:5; 13:4). The more aware we are of our weakness, the more God can reveal His power through us: “We now have this light shining in our hearts, but we ourselves are like fragile clay jars containing this great treasure. This makes it clear that our great power is from God, not from ourselves” (2 Corinthians 4:7, NLT).

God’s strength is made perfect in weakness when we put our faith and trust in Him. The Lord’s presence is all we need in times of weakness. His great power and sufficiency rest on us as we find our strength in Him, and He is glorified. We can say with the psalmist, “My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever” (Psalm 73:26).

Paul had many things about which he could have boasted. His experiences were incredible. He lists some of them in 2 Corinthians 11:22–28 to illustrate that, while he above others might have reason to boast in his own flesh – his experiences and his abilities – he would only boast in Christ. Paul recognizes that we have no real power in ourselves except for Christ in us, and he explains in Philippians 3:4–7 that, even though he has quite a list of impressive achievements, he counts all those as loss for the sake of Christ. They are worthless – even having negative value – in comparison to the joy of knowing Christ.

Paul’s experiences provide a striking example of how a person should not find his or her identity and confidence in personal achievements because only God’s grace is sufficient. While showing mercy might mean not giving, for example, a punishment to the guilty; showing grace might mean giving, for example, a blessing to the unworthy. God shows grace in giving us life and providing for us and strengthening us for the path ahead. That grace is sufficient – it’s all we need.


Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God.


The Lord bless you and keep you;
the Lord make his face shine on you and be gracious to you;
the Lord turn his face toward you and give you peace.

2023·11·25 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

If You are a Patriot and Don’t Loathe RINOs…

Well this is the week my old McCarthy vs. Dungsmear question would have repeated.

We know the answer. Dungsmear.

But now let’s talk about RINOs in general, and why they are the lowest form of life in politics.

Many patriots have been involved with politics, often at the grassroots, for decades. We’ve fought, and fought, and fought and won the occasional illusory small victory.

Yet we can’t seem to win the war, even when we have BIG electoral wins.

I am reminded of something. The original Star Trek had an episode titled Day of the Dove. It was one of the better episodes from the third season, but any fan of the original series will tell you that’s a very low bar. Still, it seems to get some respect; at a time when there were about 700 episodes of Star Trek in its various incarnations out there, it was voted 99th best out of the top 100.

In sum, the plot is that an alien entity has arranged for 39 Enterprise crew, and 39 Klingons, to fight each other endlessly with swords and other muscle-powered weapons. The entity lives off of hostile emotions, you see and it wants a captive food source. (The other 400 or so Enterprise crew are trapped below decks and unable to help.) Each side has its emotions played and amplified by the alien entity; one Enterprise junior officer has false memories implanted of a brother who was killed by Klingons. The brother didn’t even exist.

Even people killed in a sword fight miraculously heal so they can go do it again.

The second best line of the episode is when Kang, the Klingon captain, notes that though they have won quite a number of small victories including capturing Engineering, can’t seem to actually finally defeat the Enterprise crew. He growls, “What power is it that feeds our battle yet starves our victory?*”

Indeed. He may have been the bad guy, but his situation should sound familiar.

We are a majority in this country. We have a powerful political party in our corner. There is endless wrangling.

And yet,

What power is it that feeds our battle yet starves our victory?

In our case, that power is the RINOs in our midst. They specialize in caving when on the verge of victory. Think of Obamacare’s repeal failing…by one Republican vote. Think of the way we can never seem to get spending under control (and now our entire tax revenue goes to pay interest on the debt; anything the government actually does now is with borrowed money).

We have a party…that refuses to do what we want it to do, and that refusal is institutionalized. If you’ve been involved with GOP politics, but haven’t seen this, it’s because you refuse to see it. Or because you are part of the problem yourself. (If so, kindly gargle some red fuming nitric acid to clear the taste of shit out of your mouth, and let those not part of the problem alone so they can read this.)

We fight to elect people, who then take a dive when in office. But it’s not just the politicians in office, it’s the people behind the scenes, the leaders of the national, state and county branches of the party. Their job is to ensure that real patriots never get onto the general election ballot. They’re allowed a few failures…who can then become token conservatives who will somehow never manage to win (Jordan), or can be compromised outright (Loren Boebert).

That way it doesn’t actually matter who has a congressional majority. I remember my excitement when the GOP took the Senate in 1980. But all that did was empower a bunch of “moderate” puddles of dog vomit like…well for whatever reason forty years later the most memorable name is Pete Domenici. And a couple of dozen other “moderates” who simply had no interest in doing what grassroots people in their party–those same grassroots people who had worked so hard to elect them–wanted them to do.

Oh, they’ll put up a semblance of a fight…but never win. And they love it when we fight the Dems instead of fighting them. Just like that alien entity, whose motto surely was “Let’s you and him fight. It’ll be delicious!”

If you think about it, your entire political involvement has come to nothing because of these walking malignant tumors.

That should make you good and mad.

The twenty five who blocked Jordan, and the hundred people who took that opportunity to stab Jordan in the back in the secret ballot should make you good and mad.

I’ll close this with another example of RINO backstabbing, an infuriating one close to home.

In my county, the GOP chair is not a RINO. She got elected when the grassroots had had enough of the RINOs. Unfortunately the state organization is full of RINOs, and the ousted county RINOs have been trying to form a new “Republican Party” and get the state GOP to recognize them as the affiliate. I’m honestly amazed it hasn’t happened yet.

In other words those shitstains won’t just leave when they get booted out; they’ll try to destroy what they left behind. It’s an indication that they know we know how important that behind-the-scenes party power is.

So they must be destroyed. That’s the only way they’ll ever stop.

We cannot win until the leeches “on our side” get destroyed.

What power is it that feeds our battle yet starves our victory?*

We know it. What is going to be done about it?

*NOTE: The original line was actually “What power is it that supports our battle yet starves our victory.” I had mis-remembered it as feeds. When I checked it, it sure enough was “supports” and that’s what I originally quoted. On further reflection, though, I realized my memory was actually an improvement over the reality, because feeds is a perfect contrast with starves. I changed it partway through the day this originally posted, but now (since this is a re-run) it gets rendered this way from the start.

If one must do things wrong, one should do them wrong…right.

RINOs an Endangered Species?
If Only!

According to Wikipoo, et. al., the Northern White Rhinoceros (Ceratotherium simum cottoni) is a critically endangered species. Apparently two females live on a wildlife preserve in Sudan, and no males are known to be alive. So basically, this species is dead as soon as the females die of old age. Presently they are watched over by armed guards 24/7.

Biologists have been trying to cross them with the other subspecies, Southern White Rhinoceroses (Rhinoceri?) without success; and some genetic analyses suggest that perhaps they aren’t two subspecies at all, but two distinct species, which would make the whole project a lot more difficult.

I should hope if the American RINO (Parasitus rectum pseudoconservativum) is ever this endangered, there will be heroic efforts not to save the species, but rather to push the remainder off a cliff. Onto punji sticks. With feces smeared on them. Failing that a good bath in red fuming nitric acid will do.

But I’m not done ranting about RINOs.

The RINOs (if they are capable of any introspection whatsoever) probably wonder why they constantly have to deal with “populist” eruptions like the Trump-led MAGA movement. That would be because the so-called populists stand for absolutely nothing except for going along to get along. That allows the Left to drive the culture and politics.

Given the results of our most recent elections, the Left will now push harder, and the RINOs will now turn even squishier than they were before.

I well remember 1989-1990 in my state when the RINO establishment started preaching the message that a conservative simply couldn’t win in Colorado. Never mind the fact that Reagan had won the state TWICE (in 1984 bringing in a veto-proof state house and senate with him) and GHWB had won after (falsely!) assuring everyone that a vote for him was a vote for Reagan’s third term.

This is how the RINOs function. They push, push, push the line that only a “moderate” can get elected. Stomp them when they pull that shit. Tell everyone in ear shot that that’s exactly what the Left wants you to think, and oh-by-the-way-Mister-RINO if you’re in this party selling the same message as the Left…well, whythefuckexactly are you in this party, you lying piece of rancid weasel shit?

In Defense of Ranked Choice Voting

One of the biggest obstacles to direly-needed change is RINOs, and one of the weapons in their arsenal is the “Wasted Vote” argument.

Periodically a third party has arisen, trying to hold RINOs to account by putting pressure on them from outside of the party, since doing so from the inside has historically done very little good. But, even if you find a third party candidate who perfectly reflects your views, you’re likely to vote for the RINO anyway. Why? Because if you don’t, the Democrat might win, and that would be even worse. So if you vote for that third party (that few will vote for), you’re throwing your vote away and increasing the likelihood of the Democrat winning. (It’s half as much a gain for the Democrat, as actually voting for the Democrat would be. Not as much, but half as much. Because although you denied the R your vote, you did not flip your vote to the Democrat.)

The Republican Party Establishment knows you don’t love them. But they know you hate the Democrats worse, and they use that to continue to herd you into supporting them. With gritted teeth you cast your vote, but your vote counts the same whether you cast it enthusiastically. And the other alternative, pissing on the voting apparatus to express your actual feelings, is probably a felony.

But what if you could vote for that third party without increasing the chances of the Dem walking away with the prize?

This is what ranked choice voting, or instant runoff voting, can do provided it is properly implemented. (And this includes the votes, and only genuine votes, being counted honestly, of course. However, I’m going to compare it to what we have today, and pretend that is honestly done too. RCV can’t work if it’s not honestly administered, just like our current system isn’t working because it isn’t honestly administered.)

The idea behind RCV is to vote by expressing your order of preference. You could vote for the Patriot Party, then for the RINO Party as your second choice (and ignore the Democrat, the Green, the Overt Socialist Schmuckmonkey Party, etc).

What does this do? It nullifies the wasted vote argument. Your vote will be counted for the Patriot party, first, then instead of it being “wasted” when the Patriot Party loses, it ends up going to the RINO. Actually, it’s just barely possible that the Patriot Party would actually beat the RINO, if people weren’t all individually afraid to vote for it.

It’s just like the famous “Prisoner’s Dilemma” where your fear of other peoples’ actions prevents you from doing the optimal thing–and vice-versa. As long as Job Lowe is afraid to vote Patriot because he’s afraid you’ll vote RINO, you’ll have to vote RINO because you fear that Job Lowe will, because he fears you will.

So on the whole I like RCV. It gives you a no-risk way to vote against the RINO scum, and in favor of someone who deserves your vote.

The problem is, as done here in the US, it comes packaged with a “jungle primary.” A bunch of candidates get to put their name out there, and the top four (or so) candidates get onto the “main” ballot. This gives party establishments their way around the threat of a good third party bumping them off. Because they know that few people bother with primaries, and third parties don’t have the resources to run in a primary…so they throw two or three establishment hacks into the primary and they will probably beat the third party. The result is the RINOs end up with two of the four slots in the general election, and the Dems get the other two. Now there’s suddenly no third party candidate on the ballot at all.

If we were to combine RCV with the present system where each party could nominate exactly one candidate to appear on the November ballot, or at the very least, ensure minor parties could get onto the ballot with at least one candidate regardless of the primary, we would be getting somewhere, but the establishment is smarter than we like to give them credit for. They will support the jungle primary + RCV “solution” rather than the more appropriate one-candidate-per-party + RCV solution.

It’s not RCV that is the problem, it’s the primary structure grafted onto it.

Justice

It says “Justice” on the picture.

And I’m sure someone will post the standard joke about what the fish thinks about the situation.

But what is it?

Here’s a take, from a different context: It’s about how you do justice, not the justice that must be done to our massively corrupt government and media. You must properly identify the nature of a person, before you can do him justice.

Ayn Rand, On Justice (speaking through her character John Galt, in Atlas Shrugged):

Justice is the recognition of the fact that you cannot fake the character of men as you cannot fake the character of nature, that you must judge all men as conscientiously as you judge inanimate objects, with the same respect for truth, with the same incorruptible vision, by as pure and as rational a process of identification—that every man must be judged for what he is and treated accordingly, that just as you do not pay a higher price for a rusty chunk of scrap than for a piece of shining metal, so you do not value a rotter above a hero—that your moral appraisal is the coin paying men for their virtues or vices, and this payment demands of you as scrupulous an honor as you bring to financial transactions—that to withhold your contempt from men’s vices is an act of moral counterfeiting, and to withhold your admiration from their virtues is an act of moral embezzlement—that to place any other concern higher than justice is to devaluate your moral currency and defraud the good in favor of the evil, since only the good can lose by a default of justice and only the evil can profit—and that the bottom of the pit at the end of that road, the act of moral bankruptcy, is to punish men for their virtues and reward them for their vices, that that is the collapse to full depravity, the Black Mass of the worship of death, the dedication of your consciousness to the destruction of existence.

Ayn Rand identified seven virtues, chief among them rationality. The other six, including justice, she considered subsidiary because they are essentially different aspects and applications of rationality.

—Ayn Rand Lexicon (aynrandlexicon.com)

Justice Must Be Done.

Trump, it is supposed, had some documents.

Biden and company stole the country.

I’m sure enough of this that I put my money where my mouth is.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system. (This doesn’t necessarily include deposing Joe and Hoe and putting Trump where he belongs, but it would certainly be a lot easier to fix our broken electoral system with the right people in charge.)

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2024 or 2026 is pointless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud in the system is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

This will necessarily be piecemeal, state by state, which is why I am encouraged by those states working to change their laws to alleviate the fraud both via computer and via bogus voters. If enough states do that we might end up with a working majority in Congress and that would be something Trump never really had.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

Spot Prices

Last week:

Gold $1,982.10
Silver $23.82
Platinum $910.00
Palladium $1,080.00
Rhodium $5,000.00

This week, at Friday close:

Gold $2,003.70
Silver $24.42
Platinum $941.00
Palladium $1,094.00
Rhodium $4,900.00

Markets appeared to have closed at 11:45 on Friday, rather than 3 PM mountain time.

Silver is doing very well right now for some reason, it has busted $24.

Some people who analyze this stuff online are puzzled at gold’s recent climb, so it’s possible it’s being pumped and dumped.

Star Trek Was Often Clueless

As gigantic a leap ahead as Star Trek might have represented for TV science fiction (I don’t think it was beaten for almost 30 years, and that was by Babylon 5) it still had its forehead-smacking moments when it comes to the science.

Yes science fiction is considered by many to be arbitrary flights of fancy, but the fact is, when it is written science fiction, there are conventions to be followed. It should at least display an understanding of natural laws. This is even honored in the breach. By which I mean that oftentimes, the premise of the story involves a new scientific discovery, so of course there will be violations of current scientific principles. But the point is that everyone understands it’s a new thing–and the “new” science has to be internally consistent.

By no means is all, or even a majority, of science fiction about space travel, but when it is (especially in the sub-genre called “space opera”), it almost certainly will assume that some sort of faster-than-light travel is possible. Either there will be some sort of propulsion system that does it, or there will be some sort of wormhole or jump point, where you instantaneously jump from one star’s planetary system to another. (The wormhole is infinite speed, effectively…travel time involves getting to (or from) the wormhole, from (or to) some nearby planet or other location the action is going to be.)

Star Trek went with the former. A lot of other Hollywood produced stuff went the other way, or with some combination. It saves them from some opportunities to really be stupid.

In general, Hollywood doesn’t follow the convention I mentioned above; it regularly has ridiculous science howlers in it. The scriptwriters came nowhere near a STEM education and are a) clueless and b) usually don’t give a rip.

In particular, every single Hollywood production I am aware of that uses propulsion systems for faster than light travel simply doesn’t do the math and has no conception of what they’re dealing with. They don’t understand how fast light goes, and they don’t understand how big things are.

And that includes Star Trek.

When I remembered that bit about “What is it that feeds our battle yet starves our victory” I blew the dust off my original Star Trek Blurays and watched that episode. Then I got sucked in; I’ve been lightly binge watching Star Trek (the Original Series, as it’s now referred to to disambiguate it from all of the spinoffs) since then. And it’s just appalling sometimes, on this score (but it must be said the main goal was to tell good stories, which it was much more successful at).OK so first things first. Let me explain the actual situation.

Let’s discuss interplanetary travel first.

The distance between the Earth and the Sun averages out to about 93 million miles or 150 million kilometers. For historical reasons I’m not getting into now (but did in other posts), this is called an astronomical unit (AU) and is the “yardstick” we use inside the solar system. We in fact used it for a yardstick long before we had any idea how much it was…because we knew the ratios of planetary distances long ago. We knew, for instance that Jupiter was 5.2 times the distance from the Sun as is Earth, long before we knew how much in absolute terms either of those distances was. Today. of course, we’ve measured an AU to within a few hundred meters, and as of 2012 it’s now defined to be exactly 149,597,870,700 meters. (If we end up refining the measurement, we’ll end up with an AU not quite equaling the distance between the Earth and the Sun, because we’ve nailed the number in place.)

The furthest planet out is Neptune; its orbit is almost exactly 30 AU in radius. There are a lot of smaller objects further out; the furthest one that’s reasonably well known to science popularizers is Sedna. It’s in a very elliptical orbit with an average radius of 484 AU, with a maximum distance of 892. (It’s much much closer right now). Another body, Leleakuhonua, is at 1085 AU average distance, max is 2106 AU. It too is near its closest approach of “only” 65 AU. Right now it’s roughly 80 AU away. (We would never be able to see either body if it were at its furthest distance. This tells us there are almost certainly many bodies way out there, at or near the farthest extents of their orbits, that we can’t see.)

When we do start traveling between the planets of our solar system in earnest, we’ll probably spend most of our time inside the orbit of Neptune, or perhaps a bit outside it where Pluto is, but places further out than where Sedna is today, will be lengthy undertakings–expeditions.

What sorts of speeds will be needed? We’ll certainly want to move faster than the planets themselves do! The Earth moves 6.28 AUs in one year (i.e, 1 AU times 2π or times τ if you like using τ instead of π), or roughly an AU every two months. It’s moving at 29,785 meters per second or 107,230 kilometers per hour. If that’s as fast as we travel, Neptune is roughly five years away, one way. (And Earth moves a lot faster than Neptune does.) If you are thinking 5 weeks to Neptune is what people would put up with (similar to oceangoing ships crossing oceans), you need to be able to move 52 times faster, or at over 5 million kilometers an hour.

That, as it happens, is about one half of one percent of the speed of light, which is roughly a billion kilometers an hour. This is way, way ahead of anything we can do now, but much slower than light speed. And though it would require engineering we haven’t even imagined yet, it doesn’t necessarily bust the laws of physics (unless you insist it be done with souped-up rockets…like in The Expanse). One could write good stories with speeds and timespans like this.

And Star Trek got this nearly right, at least once. The Enterprise has “impulse” drives that push it at slower than the speed of light, c, and there was an episode, Elaan of Troyius, where the Enterprise was traveling from one planet to another…in the same planetary system. The command was for “speed factor point zero three seven”, which probably meant 0.037c. This allowed for a leisurely (several days) trip between two planets. It’s probably still about ten times too fast, but…maybe the star was bright and the planets had to be farther apart than (say) Earth and Mars would be. However, in spite of this rare moment of near-lucidity, this episode is no paragon of doing simple arithmetic to sanity check things, as there is a rather big blunder in it elsewhere. I’ll get to that.

OK, now let’s consider interstellar distances and travel.

It’s bigger. A lot bigger. And we’re going to need a bigger yardstick. There are two yardstick between stars. The one astronomers use amongst themselves is the parsec. How big is that?

A parsec is the distance at which, something an AU across will appear to only be one arcsecond wide. (That’s not how it was originally derived, but it’s equivalent…and a lot easier to describe.)

Those of you that shoot (and I hope that’s all of you) likely know that by happy coincidence, two spots an inch apart on a target that is 100 yards away are just about 1 arc minute apart. Which is to say the angle between the line from the first spot to your eyeball, and the line from the other spot, to your eyeball, is 1/60th of a degree. Almost but not quite parallel. Since a quarter is very close to an inch across, one MOA is how big a quarter appears at 100 yards.

One second of arc is an angle 1/60th as big as that. So it’s 1/60th the width of a quarter at a hundred yards…or you can move the object further away instead of making it smaller: it’s also the width of a quarter at 6,000 yards, or 18,000 feet…or about 3 1/2 miles.

Now put an object 1 AU across (some stars are actually that big), far enough away that it’s one arc second across.

An AU is BIG, so this has to be far, far away. In fact, it’s 30,856,775,814,913,673 meters away (almost 31 quadrillion million meters). That’s not an exact figure, and there can’t be one, because computing it from an AU (which can be expressed exactly) involves π.

The other yardstick, the one astronomers use talking to non-astronomers, is the light year. This is the distance that light (traveling at about a billion kilometers an hour) travels in 365.25 days. This is: 9,460,730,472,580.8 meters. Nine and a half trillion kilometers. Or a bit under 6 trillion miles.

The nearest star to our Sun is Proxima Centauri. It’s 4.2 light years or 1.3 parsecs away. The sun itself would be impossible to see without binoculars at about 75 light years’ distance. Many of the bright stars in our night sky are intrinsically much brighter than the sun and are hundreds of light years away.

Four light years is often taken to be a good average distance between stars (though I suspect it’s high).

The entire galaxy is a disc a hundred thousand light years across. Even as we gallivant around from star to star…getting outside of the galaxy is a long trip, unless of course you go perpendicular to the disk. The center of the disc is about 26,000 light years away. This is plenty of room for Star Trek to write zillions of episodes, especially given that the galaxy is estimated to have anywhere between 100-400 billion or even more stars in it, and as near as we can tell, a large percentage of them have planets.

Now that I have given you both scales, let’s relate the interplanetary scale to the interstellar scale.

A light year is 63,241 AUs. A parsec is 206,265 AUs.

Those are commas not decimal points.

Proxima Centauri, the nearest interstellar destination, is about 268,000 AUs away. And we can’t even do one AU yet!

If a single AU is likened to a mile, Proxima Centauri is about as far away as the moon. We can walk a mile. To get a man to the moon we need the biggest rocket ever built.

For our previously-supposed society that can travel around the solar system in a few weeks, to make the transition and be able to travel to the nearest star, is like going from a man who can walk 30 miles…to the Apollo moon rocket, all at once. It’s by far the biggest “jump” in capability we will ever make; it will make crossing the oceans instead of hugging the coasts in sailing ships look like a tiny innovation. It’s basically impossible without huge advances in technology.

And, let me just remind of something. The furthest we have actually sent a manned mission is to the Moon. How far away is the Moon? Sit down and realize how puny we are: The Moon is 0.00257 AUs away. Roughly 1/400th of an AU. No, we haven’t begun manned interplanetary travel! We’ll need to go several AUs to get to Mars (the shortest route is under an AU but is much harder). Thousands of times further than we have yet gone.

OK with the stage set, let’s consider interstellar travel. If we want the ship to get there in less than years, we must have faster than light travel. Because light takes 4 years or so to get from one star to the next. For this the creators of Star Trek invented warp drive and wrote some word salad about how it works by warping space. (Interestingly, a serious physicist has postulated that if we could bend space a certain way, we could actually travel faster than light…and the press has called it a warp drive; you may have seen articles about it. He’s done the math to back it up, so it’s not word salad. All we need is a way to bend space.)

Warp drive speeds are given in Star Trek as “warp factors.” It’s never explained in the show, but in a book written by Gene Roddenberry, the creator of Star Trek, it’s stated that to figure out how fast a warp factor is, you cube it. So for Warp Factor 2, you’re traveling 2x2x2=8 times the speed of light. Which means getting to Proxima Centauri in just over six months. That’s too long, honestly. But you can go to Warp 6 and cruise forever without damaging the engines, and that’s 6x6x6=216 times the speed of light. And that puts Proxima Centauri 7 days away. It’s just barely possible that’s the sort of time Star Treks Enterprise spends going from one star to another, but realistically, you’re not going to always be going from one star to its next door neighbor. The next crisis could be dozens or even hundreds of light years away.

In other words, even a few hundred times light speed is too slow for Star Trek to make sense.

Later on (and this is not official Star Trek as far as I know) it was posited that those warp factor multipliers apply in completely empty space, but interstellar space always has some dust and gas, plus the occasional actual star, and so warp factors get boosted…by over a thousand times, depending on how thick the interstellar medium is. (And even in a nebula, it’s actually a near perfect vacuum.) I’ll call this the “fudge factor.” And again, so far as I know it’s not “official” Star Trek.

The fudge factor does make things make more sense. Many episodes end with Kirk ordering the Enterprise on a course to the next episode (basically) at Warp 1 or 2. Unless you want the entire remaining five year mission to be taken up just getting to the next episode, you’ve got to move faster than 1x1x1=1 or 2x2x2=8 times the speed of light.

Sometimes the bridge crew actually says something is a parsec away (or so) and they can be there in minutes. Again, you need the fudge factor for this to make sense.

The problem comes in when Warp speed is mixed up with short distances.

That same Elaan of Troyius episode that I praised before, has another scene in it. A hostile ship is charging at the Enterprise at warp speed. I.e. as fast, or faster, than the speed of light. The problem came in when the bogie was 100,000 km away, and the bridge crew was counting down how far away it was.

At one times the speed of light, it would take 1/3 of a second for that ship to cover the distance. But it’s doing warp six. So the distance gets covered in 1/648th of a second instead. And that’s without the fudge factor, which makes it 1/1000th as long a time as that. The bridge crew would literally have no time at all to react.

Sigh.

But there is worse.

Another episode where the Enterprise is traveling within a planetary system is Paradise Syndrome. The Enterprise has to divert an asteroid heading for an inhabited, Earth-like planet. The asteroid is two months away. In our solar system it would be a “near-Earth object” traveling about the same speed as Earth…which as I mentioned is about 1 AU in two months. So the distance to cover is 1 AU or so. Since they are delayed on the planet (Kirk was missing, and of course they were searching for him), they have to get to the asteroid as fast as possible.

Spock orders warp nine. 9x9x9=512 times the speed of light (without fudge factor). How long will it take to cover that 1 AU distance?

Light takes 500 seconds to get from the Sun to the Earth…which is 1 AU. In other words, it should take less time for the Enterprise to travel that distance at warp nine, than it took for Spock to give the “Ahead warp factor nine” command. (That’s assuming, of course, the ship can accelerate from 0 to warp 9 in less than a second.)

Even if it’s two or three AUs away…it’s still going to take at most a handful of seconds to get there, even without the fudge factor. Since warp nine stresses the engines, it would probably have been okay to order warp six and take a few extra seconds. (Not that a mere one second of warp nine should cause problems!)

Instead this is shown as taking hours, if not days. And the engines are near the breaking point when they get to the asteroid. They end up frying the engines trying to divert the asteroid, and the Enterprise has to go back to the planet on impulse power, hours ahead of the asteroid…for two months…to try to find Kirk and rescue him before the asteroid destroys all life on the planet. (This too also ignorant, this time ignorant of orbital dynamics. The asteroid is in an orbit about the star, not under power. Therefore the Enterprise can be on the same trajectory without using power. If it is using any power at all, it should outrun the asteroid.)

Another episode that needs a callout is Space Seed. It wasn’t that famous an episode…until Star Trek II hit the movie theaters. Because Space Seed is the episode that introduced Khan Noonien Singh (played by Ricardo Montalban).

Khan’s backstory is that he and his band of merry supermen and superwomen escaped Earth in 1992 aboard a DY-100 ship…a ship far, far ahead of anything we can build today (anything interplanetary that can hold 3 people in it is…much less something with the big corridors we saw in Star Trek, holding dozens of people). The ship was meant for interplanetary travel but fortunately for the viewer (unfortunately for the Enterprise), they had suspended animation, and so the ship could travel for nearly 300 years…and somehow end up WAY out there among the stars for the Enterprise to find it.

Uh, but look at those numbers. Interstellar travel is tens of thousands times further than interplanetary travel.

We have sent objects out of the solar system, five of them. The furthest is Voyager 1, which after almost 50 years is a mere 152 AU away, and it will be tens of thousands of years before it gets as far away as Proxima Centauri (and it’s not headed in that direction).

There’s simply no way Khan’s ship could be at interstellar distances, much less far enough out that the Enterprise is only now stumbling across it, three centuries later.

Fortunately, I can usually ignore stuff like this for the sake of enjoying the story. But it would be nice if these TV shows would actually employ someone who can do arithmetic and use a calculator! Because that’s literally all it takes…that and knowing that distance equals speed multiplied by time.

I’m lucky that I can see all of this and still enjoy the show.

A couple of postscripts.

First, everything I’ve said applies to the original series. Star Trek the Next Generation (and Deep Space Nine and Voyager) are set a century after the original series, and the warp drive there is quite different…it’s probably the same as the “Transwarp” that was being tested in some of the movies made to go with the original series. Warp factors are much higher, and warp ten is infinite speed.

Also, here is a video about a scale model of our solar system in Melbourne, Australia. Distances and planetary sizes are to the same scale, 1:1,000,000,000 or 1 millimeter = 1,000 kilometers. The thumbnail shows the sun. Pluto is almost six kilometers away.

But there is a little surprise. Proxima Centauri is part of the model…quite close to the Sun in fact! What is it doing there? Didn’t I just get finished trying to convey how ridiculously far away it is compared to planets?

Well yes. But it just so happens that at the scale of the model, Proxima Centauri is 40,000 km away…and that’s one trip around the earth! So start at the sun, go past Mercury, Venus, etc…and Neptune, and yes they included Pluto for laughs. Then keep on going…all the way around the world and you’ll hit Proxima Centauri just before getting to the Sun again.

Obligatory PSAs and Reminders

China is Lower than Whale Shit

To conclude: My standard Public Service Announcement. We don’t want to forget this!!!

Remember Hong Kong!!!

https://youtube.com/watch?v=L3tnH4FGbd0

中国是个混蛋 !!!
Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!!
China is asshoe !!!

China is in the White House

Since Wednesday, January 20 at Noon EST, the bought-and-paid for Joseph Biden has been in the White House. It’s as good as having China in the Oval Office.

Joe Biden is Asshoe

China is in the White House, because Joe Biden is in the White House, and Joe Biden is identically equal to China. China is Asshoe. Therefore, Joe Biden is Asshoe.

But of course the much more important thing to realize:

Joe Biden Didn’t Win

乔*拜登没赢 !!!
Qiáo Bài dēng méi yíng !!!
Joe Biden didn’t win !!!

Dear MAGA: Open Topic 20231124


Copied From: Dear MAGA: Open Topic 20181123


This SPECIAL BLACK FRIDAY  open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.

Say what you want, comment on what other people said, comment on people’s comments.  Keep it civil.  Treehouse rules, but expect lots of QAnon.

Today we continue our Thanksgiving, with thanks that we still have CASH, and don’t have to pay for things via embedded RFID chips in our hands, and wireless transmitters in our heads.

W

PS – if you do buy a firearm this weekend, consider paying for some TRAINING to go with it.  You can NEVER go wrong with professional training WITH your new firearm.  Put enough rounds through it that you know exactly how it behaves.  Then, make sure you have a PLAN for safekeeping of it.  Have a great weekend!

“Victory begins with a PLAN.”

To Y’All:

This was an emergency Black Friday Post. DePat has been very busy, she must be getting a well-deserved night’s sleep, and THE BOYS are jumping in with a quick substitute.

BRING YOUR OWN DRINKS!

Hope you had a great Thanksgiving and that you have a great Black Friday, Cyber Monday, or whatever. See you in the comments!

W

Dear KAG: 20231123 Thanksgiving Open Thread

Being full of Chinese take-out and having started Thanksgiving cooking without the matriarch, I’m digging up an old opener with some current items.

Anti-Thanksgiving? UnAmerican at best, treason more likely.

So, what REALLY happened to bring about Thanksgiving here in the former colonies of England, France and Spain?????

The Great Thanksgiving Hoax

This official story is nothing like what really happened. It is a fairy tale, a whitewashed and sanitized collection of half-truths which divert attention away from Thanksgiving’s real meaning.

The official story has the Pilgrims boarding the Mayflower, coming to America, and establishing the Plymouth colony in the winter of 1620–21. This first winter is hard, and half the colonists die. But the survivors are hard working and tenacious, and they learn new farming techniques from the Indians. The harvest of 1621 is bountiful. The pilgrims hold a celebration, and give thanks to God. They are grateful for the wonderful new abundant land He has given them.

The official story then has the Pilgrims living more or less happily ever after, each year repeating the first Thanksgiving. Other early colonies also have hard times at first, but they soon prosper and adopt the annual tradition of giving thanks for this prosperous new land called America.

The problem with this official story is that the harvest of 1621 was not bountiful, nor were the colonists hard-working or tenacious. 1621 was a famine year and many of the colonists were lazy thieves.

In his History of Plymouth Plantation, the governor of the colony, William Bradford, reported that the colonists went hungry for years because they refused to work in the field. They preferred instead to steal food. He says the colony was riddled with “corruption,” and with “confusion and discontent.” The crops were small because “much was stolen both by night and day, before it became scarce eatable.”

In the harvest feasts of 1621 and 1622, “all had their hungry bellies filled,” but only briefly. The prevailing condition during those years was not the abundance the official story claims, it was famine and death. The first “Thanksgiving” was not so much a celebration as it was the last meal of condemned men.

But in subsequent years something changes. The harvest of 1623 was different. Suddenly, “instead of famine now God gave them plenty,” Bradford wrote, “and the face of things was changed, to the rejoicing of the hearts of many, for which they blessed God.” Thereafter, he wrote, “any general want or famine hath not been amongst them since to this day.” In fact, in 1624, so much food was produced that the colonists were able to begin exporting corn.

What happened? After the poor harvest of 1622, writes Bradford, “they began to think how they might raise as much corn as they could, and obtain a better crop.” They began to question their form of economic organization.

This had required that “all profits & benefits that are got by trade, traffic, trucking, working, fishing, or any other means” were to be placed in the common stock of the colony, and that, “all such persons as are of this colony, are to have their meat, drink, apparel, and all provisions out of the common stock.” A person was to put into the common stock all he could, and take only what he needed.

This “from each according to his ability, to each according to his need” was an early form of socialism, and it is why the Pilgrims were starving. Bradford writes that “young men that were most able and fit for labor and service” complained about being forced to “spend their time and strength to work for other men’s wives and children.” Also, “the strong, or man of parts, had no more in division of victuals and clothes, than he that was weak.” So the young and strong refused to work and the total amount of food produced was never adequate.

To rectify this situation, in 1623 Bradford abolished socialism. He gave each household a parcel of land and told them they could keep what they produced, or trade it away as they saw fit. In other words, he replaced socialism with a free market, and that was the end of the famines.

Socialism only works in religious order settings, and then, it doesn’t really work there, either.

From our friend Gail:

The Christian Ethics Behind the Pilgrims’ Rejection of Communism

One misconception that is still with us is that the Pilgrims adopted socialism out of religious conviction, as if Christian ethics requires a Platonic communist utopia. Galles notes that this is a misconception, but it is beyond the scope of his essay to provide the full historical back drop to that initial fateful economic design.

In fact, as Bradford makes clear, the Pilgrims did not desire to establish Christian communism. The Pilgrims’ original communal property arrangements were foisted upon them by their colonial sponsors. The sponsors did this after they learned that they would not be granted a monopoly of fishing rights in Cape Cod. The sponsors’ original agreement with the Pilgrims was such that the Pilgrims were to work for four days for the sponsoring company and then would have two days to work for themselves. The sponsors later changed their deal and told the Pilgrims that they would have to work all six days of the work week for the sponsors. At the end of seven years, the Pilgrims would be granted title to the property they worked. The Pilgrims were not happy with the change, several of them recognizing that the new arrangement would make them virtual slaves of the sponsors, but they went along with the deal because many had already made large investments toward the move and they were convinced that emigrating to the New World is what God wanted them to do.

Also of interest may be the story of Squanto as told by Dr. Taylor Marshall. Unfortunately, this is only available on YouTube, so I am providing links.

And, of course, Louis Anderson telling of Thanksgiving at his house.

And, true story, we were at some relatives’ house for a September fish fry, and a cousin said, “Do we have everything out?”

In unison, several of us said, “THE CRANBERRIES!”

Badlands News Brief – November 22, 2023

Elon Musk is now boosting the ‘Pizzagate’ conspiracy theory

And Tweeted Q*Anon. It was quite a day.

Nikki Haley walks back ‘verify everybody’ social media proposal, wants free speech for ‘anonymous Americans’

Blowback anyone?

The Morning Briefing: Leftist Attempts to Destroy Elon Musk Won’t Work in Time for 2024

A Family Affair

‘No terrorist activity’ in Rainbow Bridge car explosion, Hochul says, after vehicle going 100 mph hit checkpoint barrier at border

Apparently, they were headed to a KISS concert.

https://twitter.com/Yoda4ever/status/1727323546278576422

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As usual, this is the daily thread, the place to put all information that needs to be out there – Q drops, Q drop decodes, riot information, rumors about MAGA rallies starting up again, news flashes, Chy-na flu updates, fashionable mask photos, satire, memes, and of course cute animal videos.

In the meantime, the short and sweet version of “THE RULES” is here borrowed from Tuesday:

Guidelines for posting and discussion on this site were outlined by our host, WolfM00n. Please, review them from time to time.

The discourse on this site is to be CIVIL – no name calling, baiting, or threatening others here is allowed. Those who are so inclined may visit Wolf’s other sanctuary, the U-Tree, to slog it out.

This site is a celebration of the natural rights endowed to humans by our Creator as well as those enshrined in the Bill of Rights adopted in the founding documents of the United States of America. Within the limits of law, how we exercise these rights is part of the freedom of our discussion.

Fellow tree dweller the late Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights – IN HONOR OF OUR PAT, SUSPENDED FOR TODAY ONLY
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone. ALSO FOR TODAY ONLY, BYOB – BRING YOUR OWN BOURBON.

Since it is almost the weekend, the reminders are in place to not swing from the chandeliers, wash your hands and face, and be nice to the liberals whether they deserve it or not. Making your bed, OTOH, is optional.

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SIRACH 50:22-24

22And now bless the God of all, who in every way does great things; who exalts our days from birth, and deals with us according to his mercy. 23May he give us gladness of heart, and grant that peace may be in our days in Israel, as in the days of old. 24May he entrust to us his mercy! And let him deliver us in our days!

PSALMS 138:1-5

1I give thee thanks, O LORD, with my whole heart; before the gods I sing thy praise; 2I bow down toward thy holy temple and give thanks to thy name for thy steadfast love and thy faithfulness; for thou hast exalted above everything thy name and thy word. 3On the day I called, thou didst answer me, my strength of soul thou didst increase. 4All the kings of the earth shall praise thee, O LORD, for they have heard the words of thy mouth; 5and they shall sing of the ways of the LORD, for great is the glory of the LORD.

1 CORINTHIANS 1:3-9

3Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ. 4I give thanks to God always for you because of the grace of God which was given you in Christ Jesus, 5that in every way you were enriched in him with all speech and all knowledge — 6even as the testimony to Christ was confirmed among you — 7so that you are not lacking in any spiritual gift, as you wait for the revealing of our Lord Jesus Christ; 8who will sustain you to the end, guiltless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9God is faithful, by whom you were called into the fellowship of his Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.

LUKE 17:11-19

11On the way to Jerusalem he was passing along between Sama’ria and Galilee. 12And as he entered a village, he was met by ten lepers, who stood at a distance 13and lifted up their voices and said, “Jesus, Master, have mercy on us.” 14When he saw them he said to them, “Go and show yourselves to the priests.” And as they went they were cleansed. 15Then one of them, when he saw that he was healed, turned back, praising God with a loud voice; 16and he fell on his face at Jesus’ feet, giving him thanks. Now he was a Samaritan. 17Then said Jesus, “Were not ten cleansed? Where are the nine? 18Was no one found to return and give praise to God except this foreigner?” 19And he said to him, “Rise and go your way; your faith has made you well.”

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Happy Thanksgiving, y’all. Remember, after the meal, it is perfectly acceptable to look for a place to lie down.

Dear KAG: 20231122 Open Thread

Cover image: Hawaii Volcanoes National Park

Badlands News Brief – November 21, 2023

Argentina Will Not Join BRICS In January

Internal Senate memo highlights Biden admin efforts to tie highway funding to woke priorities

Texas attorney general announces investigation into Media Matters after Elon Musk files ‘thermonuclear lawsuit’

Elon Musk Files Lawsuit Against Extreme Leftist Media Matters

Trump vows to kill Asia trade deal being pursued by Biden if elected president

Liberal ‘dark money’ groups gave millions to SCOTUS watchdogs targeting Alito, Thomas, docs show

New Raft of Articles Tighten the Screws on Zelensky, Plead for Course Correction

Tweets, X-Posts, Whatever

Memes & Stuff

Have a good day y’all.

(I don’t remember who brought this to a daily in the comments, but thanks.)

And, of course, the obligatory George Carlin:

Per the Boss:

And now for the obligatory message from our sponsors:

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Fellow tree dweller, the late Wheatie, gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone

Please, stock up on blanks for celebratory gunfire, be ready to swing from the chandeliers…and no messing with the nuclear weapons.

Please remember to remain locked and loaded and ready for trouble should the insurrectionists try to invade your space.

Those who have things to say that do not fit the generally accepted limits of “civil” discussion, Wolf has provided a venue known as the UTree. You’re welcome to visit over there and say hi to anyone hanging out over there. The “Rescue Thread” is also over there. In the event a rendezvous of the tree is needed, please check it out, as well as the newest rescue venue.

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MATTHEW 25:1-13

1“Then the kingdom of heaven shall be compared to ten maidens who took their lamps and went to meet the bridegroom. 2Five of them were foolish, and five were wise. 3For when the foolish took their lamps, they took no oil with them; 4but the wise took flasks of oil with their lamps. 5As the bridegroom was delayed, they all slumbered and slept. 6But at midnight there was a cry, `Behold, the bridegroom! Come out to meet him.’ 7Then all those maidens rose and trimmed their lamps. 8And the foolish said to the wise, `Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.’ 9But the wise replied, `Perhaps there will not be enough for us and for you; go rather to the dealers and buy for yourselves.’ 10And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the marriage feast; and the door was shut. 11Afterward the other maidens came also, saying, `Lord, lord, open to us.’ 12But he replied, `Truly, I say to you, I do not know you.’ 13Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour.

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome.

Please include: President Donald Trump, the Q team, our soldiers in the field, special forces, tactical units, first responders and those working behind the scenes…and any and all people with family members in the hospital, COVID or not.

And…members of the QTree who no longer participate for one reason or another.

It is quite clear, as per Wolf’s message from July, that we are under spiritual attack. Building up a robust arsenal of prayer and discipline is a must in fighting the enemy and his minions.

In that spirit, the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel from Tuesday’s threads, and the Breastplate of St. Patrick, not to mention the Litany of Humility are favorites recommended by exorcists in spiritual warfare.

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