Dear KAG: 20231206 Open Thread

This is a Wolf Moon Emergency Wednesday Post. You ain’t gonna get the usual stuff.

This is a perfect opportunity for me to address this whole question of QAnon, Trump, “a pause” and the existence/nonexistence thereof, “The Plan”, etc.

Try to imagine a continuum of infinite dimensions (that would be reality per se) but let’s watch it progress in one particular dimension (“time”) with all possible states moving forward.

The socialists have a vision for how this should happen. The forces who backed Trump have a different vision. Blah blah blah. You all know all this stuff.

The Trump years (2016-2020) were obviously characterized by the leftists, globalists and their allies doing everything in their power to resist movement in a Trump direction (“America First”), but also by a lot of great things happening, and our learning the REALITY of how they actually worked.

There are other agendas layered into that whole conflict, which have goals in different dimensions, but you understand that.

To me, “the pause” is code for Trump accepting his bogus electoral loss and ending the brief advance in an America First direction. Whether it was a mutual decision with the deep pro-Trump forces in the military and civilian government or not, Trump clearly didn’t have the stomach for a civil war. At some point, a decision was made somewhere, not to push “a return of honest government” any harder than they did. It probably would have turned into something that only the evil would have benefited from, IMO.

Yet you will notice what 3-4 years has bought us – a new position – wiser, savvier (IMO), and with massive discreditation of the opposition. The enemy at the highest levels has had to openly call for assassination of Donald Trump, through the evil Kagan, husband of the evil Nuland, and clearly connected to the highly discredited CIA. They’re that beside themselves.

I am one who has no problem maintaining long-term realistic optimism against extreme short-term negative realism (I don’t use the term pessimism, because it tends to be unreasonable). Time is the gift from God that allows a gradient of wonder to be created. He sees it, and it is good – by definition. Accepting the GIFT of time is not a problem for me.

I have FAITH in our MOVEMENT toward increasing TRUTH and defined (though sometimes conflicting and ill-defined) GOOD. I hope that you do, as well.

I believe that Q provided helpful guideposts for us, from the viewpoint of a small group within the military which has an excellent understanding of the big picture. They are not so much in control, as in understanding of controlling things. They do have control of certain things I choose not to talk about, though the other side looks desperately for them, and that is why I choose not to talk about these things. But most of the things the Q folks seem to have, are understandings of what is inevitable, and what is not. Some of that is reflected in the Q posts.

Think of a big chess game, with two players following rules. Add many, many players, add even more rules, and add possibilities to cheat, but also add emergent realities that cannot be cheated.

THAT is the game in play. THAT is the level of “control” that people have. And for the very smart people behind Q, that level of “control” is more than enough to taunt the enemy, to encourage down-hearted people on our side, and to give oxygen to our movement.

Yes, there was a kind of pause – we all know it. The advance under Trump has been “paused” by conceding our righteous turn, to a horrible administration called “46”, which came between 45 and 47.

I am not afraid to have faith in what comes next. ALL of those infinite possibilities in those infinite dimensions, advancing in that one dimension called time, are fine with me – precisely because of my faith in God.

I hope that all of you find, strengthen, and renew that faith. God bless you all!


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Great job, Wolf!


keeps you young, right ? 😍

Valerie Curren

  :wpds_grin:  Wow!!!   :wpds_grin:  Great Job!!!!!!!

Valerie Curren

Can’t Wait!  😍 



Gail Combs

Thanks MUCH Wolfie.

I was going to try to write a similar article but got yanked into a major soap opera. I now have 2 house guests.

My friend with the kidney problems ended up having 5 seizures in 3 days and lost the use of a leg as a result. I took her to the UNC emergency and we got a wierdo (Public Health) doctor who said they found nothing wrong. I suggested a D-Dimer test for micro clots he got a deer in the headlights look and stammered some nonsense about the D-dimer would tell nothing about blot clots.🙄

A day or so later I got a bright idea and slap my oximeter on her finger and then the good leg and the bad leg
98 = finger
100 = good leg (toe)
91 = bad leg (toe) —— OOPS!

So tomorrow I take her Hubby’s doctor.

The other person has a major issue with his family that boils down to MONEY….

Valerie Curren

Oh wow Gail…I feel for you in the house guest situation. I’m still off my game from one year ago when our “6 month” house guest arrived–yikes.

Great idea w/ the pulse ox. Is she shot injured & if so using any of the detox protocols to help diminish issues?

You & your hubby are Saints! God Bless You All!!!

Gail Combs

She was living with her brother who was boosted. Also the seizures started a month or so after she got Ralph Baric’s disease in 2018. (I got long haulers at about the same time) I had taken her to UNC emergency less than 1,000 feet from Baric’s lab. She is in her 50s.

2015: Gain of Function with the Bat Lady:

Saracatinib Inhibits Middle East Respiratory Syndrome-Coronavirus Replication In Vitro.Shin JS, Jung E, Kim M, Baric RS, Go YY.
Viruses. 2018 May 24

Coronavirus Susceptibility to the Antiviral Remdesivir (GS-5734) Is Mediated by the Viral Polymerase and the Proofreading Exoribonuclease.Agostini ML, Andres EL, Sims AC, Graham RL, Sheahan TP, Lu X, Smith EC, Case JB, Feng JY, Jordan R, Ray AS, Cihlar T, Siegel D, Mackman RL, Clarke MO, Baric RS, Denison MR.
mBio. 2018 Mar 6;9(2):e00221-18. doi: 10.1128/mBio.00221-18.

Antagonism of dsRNA-Induced Innate Immune Pathways by NS4a and NS4b Accessory Proteins during MERS Coronavirus Infection.Comar CE, Goldstein SA, Li Y, Yount B, Baric RS, Weiss SR.
mBio. 2019 Mar 26;10(2):e00319-19. doi: 10.1128/mBio.00319-19.


So Baric was playing with covid viruses in the time frame when we came down with what I think was covid.


Is she open to worming goats?


^^^ Track record shows amazing results.

Gail Combs

I will have to try that one.😜

Valerie Curren

I’ve got A Lot of links on this post that Might be helpful too…

Gail Combs

I have no idea but I remembered his name. The 2nd house guest and I went to his page and found ZERO reviews so we left one.



Sounds like the guy got LOTS of BAD reviews and google trashed them!

Four days later and NO REVIEWS….HMMMmm Looks like our review got canned.

Gail Combs

I is getting really bad when your negative comments on SERVICE are getting CENSORED!!


I’d guess it is a perk for the drs who sold their soul to push the vexx and covidiocy

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Happy go lucky

He looks like a vegan, just sayin’


I agree…PDJT decided to avoid the “civil war” backlash, at that time…but he will always have a rabid backlash, it will never just go away or disappear or recede or give up…in fact, it’s getting worse….more venal, more deadly, more desperate….more pissed off.
JFK had a problem with CIA, remember ?


take a look at the Tucson Sector of the Arizona border….notice how practically all of them are males (by birth, I assume ?)…and African, Middle Eastern & Oriental….

helluva way to destroy national sovereignty….



PDJT doesn’t want “revenge”, he wants justice.

and so do we…

because it wasn’t an election, it was…and still is… a coup.

he knows exactly how to use the cards he’s been dealt to actually expose them for what they are, and to let them show the world how corrupt they are by the manner in which they are going after him.

and that’s what they hate about him.

it’s a very dangerous kind of hate.

he has the numbers, he is the living proof.

it’s been impossible for them to divide & conquer because of his strength and influence….

and his resilience.

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Valerie Curren

because it wasn’t an election, it was…and still is… a coup.”

This X 1,000,000   :wpds_mad:    :wpds_evil:    :wpds_mad: 


I really like your description, smiley.

PDJT doesn’t want “revenge”, he wants justice.

That’s a good way to keep the Lefties from taking his words out of context – although they will, but it’s harder when talking about Justice vs Revenge.


I note that the same “pause” is bandied about for not having a hot civil war in 2021 and also not having a hot war of extermination between Israel and Hamas in 2023.


Once seen…..

It should also be noted that one side of each pause is “existential”, while the other side is “strategic”.


You are on a roll. What was in your coffee?  😂 

Barb Meier

I think this is part of why they are so hysterical lately. They fear being on the receiving end of what they’ve done to us since Obama came slinking into the WH.

Gail Combs

Think what happens to all the doctors, nurses & pharmacists when the truth finally becomes main stream. And that is leaving out the politicians.

NY Gov. Andrew Cuomo and his disastrous March 25 nursing home policy that jammed COVID-stricken patients into the state’s long-term care facilities. The New York Times found the nursing home death toll in New York at more than 9,000.

Michigan’s Gov. Gretchen Whitmer signed a similar order that forced COVID patients into nursing homes on April 15.

“A long-term care facility must not prohibit admission of readmission of a resident based on COVID-19 testing requirements or results,”

 8,900 ESTIMATED nursing home deaths

 California Gov. Gavin Newsom, signed an executive order on May 15 that

“patients hospitalized, or receiving treatment at an alternate care site, with COVID-19 can be discharged to a [skilled nursing facility] when clinically indicated.”

 Los Angeles Times COVID tracker, shows nearly 13,000 have died in California nursing homes. 

New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy OKed state Health Commissioner Judith Persichilli directing long-term care facilities to accept patients infected with covid

“No patient/resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the post-acute care setting solely based on a confirmed diagnosis of COVID-19…Post-acute care facilities are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized patient/resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission.”

New Jersey had the highest rate of COVID deaths with nearly 24,000 fatalities as of 3/2021.

Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz declared a peacetime emergency on March 13. and commanded nursing homes take in COVID patients.

Walz defended his decision.

“This was not a mistake, It wasn’t like no one thought about this. There was complexity in how you deal with this.”

More than 2,800 people living in nursing homes and other long-term care facilities, nearly 70% of the state’s COVID deaths meaning Minnesota was one of the highest ratios in the United States.

Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Wolf issued an executive order March 18th demanding,

“nursing care facilities must continue to accept new admissions and receive readmissions for current residents who have been discharged from the hospital who are stable.”

The Pennsylvania Department of Health reports more than 12,500 nursing home deaths.



I don’t think they fear anything at all, I think they’re killers.

I think they prey on weakness, and push boundaries until they encounter resistance.

They’re still probing for resistance.

Haven’t encountered any yet…

Barb Meier

I hear you, Scott but I think you overestimate many who don’t think at all. Those behind the curtain are killers and prey on weakness and push until stopped. Many more are just ignorant and think they are with the cool kids. They’e not, of course.


“We are apparently vaccine resistors of some kind.”


Except me 😁

I’m a vaccine refuser, which of course is my ABSOLUTE and TOTAL right, both as an American and as a human being, and anyone who tries to violate that right puts themselves in the same position as the Nazis at the Nuremberg trials.

If Johnny Lawless wants to take his vaxx and get boosted, wipe out his immune system and become a VAIDS patient, that’s his business. I hope his insurance is paid up and his Will is current, and good luck to him.

So, as you can see, I’m on the fence.

Or what the Ministry of Truth calls ‘vaccine hesitant’ 😂

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Barb Meier

Good point, Scott. They mistake us for ‘vaccine hesitant’ and that means they could coerce or convince us. Fat chance. No way. Nadda, zero, zip!


“Vaccine hesitant” makes me laugh.

I have zero hesitation in telling a vaxx-pusher to fuck right off!


Yeah, it’s sort of like struggling to explain the weirdness of the chick wandering around alone in a dark mansion in a horror flick, while the audience yells, “don’t go there!!!”




Valerie Curren

The richer the woman the greater the sheeple tendencies?

Barb Meier

Except for Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi. They are just wicked.


The richer the woman, the more liberal the tendencies.

Valerie Curren

clearly…they are more distant from the harsh realities of life than poorer women who apparently have major clues about how the world Actually works…


Well, it would appear that if “climate change” don’t git ya, then “high financial resources” will.
Yeah —– rrrriiiiiiight.


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Not Valerie Plame, thank goodness.

We’d have a real scandal on our hands.

Valerie Curren

 😂  “secret” agent girrrrrl!

Cuppa Covfefe

De Plame, De Plame….

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The adjectival form would be “Tatooine.”

E.g., He spoke in a tatooine voice.

Valerie Curren

Uncle Owen, Uncle Owen

pat frederick

giggle snort

Valerie Curren


Barb Meier

Thanks Wolf, great piece!

Among those infinite possibilities, we often view the current ideological and cultural conflict as America First. That’s true, but the implicatioms are global. Consider how the leftists have already installed dictators throughout Central and South America and in Africa.

The time has expanded awareness not just of our fellow countrymen, but also people around the world. Some are strong enough to stand up and change their own form of government and get rid of the statists and globalists. Others cannot yet. I like how President Trump sees it. Each nation is sovereign seeking its own best interests, yet respecting other nations right to do the same.

In the last three years, I better understand the shifting of alliances with Eastern European nations being stronger allies to MAGA now than the compromised Europe that has been overrun with non-assimilating Islamists. Eastern European people suffered under Communism and know exactly what it would mean to their own lives as well as their nations and the world.

One thing leftists never talk about is respect for individuals and nations. They just don’t respect others. Many people are seeing that too.

What respectable evil overlord would pick someone like Vicki Neuland to drive their wars? She is a pudding face, middle aged, unattractive, moron. Not exactly someone any nation would rally around during times of great peril for our families and country. I am certain her mom never called her Victoria unless she did some childish thing to earn nothing but coal in her stocking. It is quite the presumption for this bland, secretive busy body to claim the name of past queens.

Barb Meier



A BIL’s wife is from Slovakia. Several of the children of her parents left Czechoslovakia and came to America soon after the Velvet Revolution in the early 90s. They are by far some of the most MAGA people who ever existed. They despise leftists/communists because they lived that life. They have worked hard and successfully built lives for themselves and families here in east TN. We would do well to emulate their resolve.

Her parents and one child remained in Slovakia and are doing much better than before. My BIL and wife visit there for a couple of weeks annually.

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Barb Meier

TB so glad they ended communism there and your BIL and wife get to have a good visit with family in Slovakia each year. Yes, some of the best lessons I learned was when Mom would tell me stories of growing up in the Depression. Among those stories was a family who gave my Mom’s parents their baby grand piano when they moved and could not take it with them. Mom said her parents used it to fill a sink hole. My aunt elaborated later saying they used the wood to build kitchen cabinets. Be resourceful. Don’t regret losing things. They are just things. My Mom’s mother was a happy person. She had 11 children, all born at home. Only one little boy was stillborn. One daughter, Vivian, had a heart problem and survived until she was about 15. All the rest lived long lives and that grandma lived till a week before her 95th birthday.

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Barb Meier

My grandma Mary gave her sons and daughters names I adore. Clara Mae, Lillian, Dorothy, Cora Evelyn (my mom), Alice, Melba, and Vivian.

Valerie Curren

Vivian is my grandma’s name 🙂 Technically that’s her middle name but she started using it after HS, where she still went by Beatrice, her given name.

Barb Meier

Oh I love the name Vivian. She left me her hope chest when I was a year old and she was a teen.

Valerie Curren

That’s Amazing! What kind of goodies were in that Hope Chest?

My grandparents combined their names, Elzine & Vivian into “El Viva” meaning “the life” & wrote that on the cement pad in the yard of their Cottage where an old stone grill (demolished w/ stones made into a firepit now) used to sit. Whenever I see that “signature” I smile & sigh.

My parents like to combine their initials of WES & EEK into “We Seek” & use that shorthand to remind how they still seek the Lord as well as love & laughter.

I love those family connections we all (potentially) have to reminisce & share. Even reading comments on youtube for a Pink Panther video clip made me joyful for how many people have special family memories & are willing to reveal some of them online…

Barb Meier

Mom kept whatever goodies were in the hope chest so she could share with her sisters. Grandma saved good linens with embroidery so I expect there were some of those. I do have a quilt she made and Mom made me several quilts over the years.

Valerie Curren

Priceless! AND Precious  😍 


Same reason ugly and/or plain people are successful actors and spies – beautiful attracts too much attention. Frumpy can move in the shadows much easier.


Thank you for this post, Wolf. I agree with what you said here. I also do not think it is what some people on the internet are pushing. It would be very easy for them to couch it in the terms you used, but some are saying something altogether different.

You say:

To me, “the pause” is code for Trump accepting his bogus electoral loss and ending the brief advance in an America First direction. Whether it was a mutual decision with the deep pro-Trump forces in the military and civilian government or not, Trump clearly didn’t have the stomach for a civil war. At some point, a decision was made somewhere, not to push “a return of honest government” any harder than they did. It probably would have turned into something that only the evil would have benefited from, IMO.

IMO, then, there is no reason to talk about Trump having paused something. The election was stolen from him and his only choice was to fight it legally, which he has encouraged people to do and which was the reason for J6, vs. other strategies that would have been destructive, extra-Constitutional, and short-lived.

Words matter. I believe some are deliberately couching their arguments in ambiguous terms that make Trump look either culpable or omniscient and omnipotent. They imply that the entire election steal was part of a grand plan that Trump and his allies implemented. On the contrary, Trump is a man who has been dealt a great injustice. IMO, inciting civil war or employing a military takeover were not real choices unless he wanted to change the country forever and possibly destroy it in the process. Therefore,he had no choice. When people say he “allowed” something, that implies choice. When they say “he paused,” that implies choice and action. Why people would be emphasizing that Trump didn’t use unconstitutional measures is beyond me.

This might not be a perfect analogy, but I liken it to this:
You and your child are in a store where a robbery is taking place. The robber has a gun aimed directly at your child and threatens to shoot. You choose not to draw your own gun in that moment, to keep your child from getting shot. The police eventually overtake the robber, and you and your child are safe.
So after an incident like that, is it said that you “allowed” the robbery to commence? Did you “pause” going about your normal business? No. You had no choice but to not escalate. IMO, there is no reason to use those terms unless another agenda is in play.

Barb Meier

In both cases, culpable or omniscient/omnipotent, the goal seems to be: blame Trump.


You beat me to it. How to blame Trump for Biden’s term.

Barb Meier

You state it more fully.

Valerie Curren

demons  😡 


Note also that they try to blame Trump’s “warp speed” for Biden’s vaccine mandates.


In both cases, culpable or omniscient/omnipotent, the goal seems to be: blame Trump.

It would seem so, but those pushing these theories represent themselves to be staunch Trump supporters. I think some of them are taking Q posts about “you are watching a movie” and “we have it all” from several years ago, and applying that to anything and everything happening now. In that scenario, Trump and his allies are in complete control, so they must have orchestrated the whole thing. This is what I push back against because it makes Trump culpable and IMO distorts the meaning of Q.

Barb Meier

Q was our Paul Revere, encouraging us normies to wake up and the anons to research and think analytically. Those behind Q never tried to be prophets or gods.


It’s fear that drives it.

It’s far scarier to believe that Trump and allies are not in control. So the don’t believe it.


These assholes.






Aubergine, did you ever get the Stevie Nicks collection? If so, did you get the CD or the LP box set?


Not yet. Christmas is coming….

I want the CDs.


It’s on sale right now, best price I have seen since it was released in July:

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(remove the space between the ‘http’ and the ‘s’)


It’s the same price here on ebay, with free shipping:

I hope Santa is good to you 👍😁

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Thanks, Scott! I appreciate the heads up.

I don’t know about Santa; I’ve been pretty naughty this year! Maybe you’ll fare better.

Valerie Curren

Naughty but nice…with just the right amount of spice!


Lol, thanks!

Valerie Curren

The 2000 election aftermath nearly tore the country apart. Trump Chose not to escalate the 2020 electoral debacle. If he & some (military) advisors watched the Steal in real time in a SCIF, as has been implied/stated multiple times, they “have it all” & can (& hopefully will) provide the Proof when the crucial time comes.

I seriously doubt that RealPOTUS will show (all of) his Trump cards before a kangaroo court that will do its damnedest to bury him & MAGA.


Agree. Thats why they are doing so many stupid things that fly in the face of reason. The more they do it the more the normie starts questioning WTH is going on. That is the awakening.

We are being sold shiz soup. Who in their RIGHT minds thinks that diddling kids and whacking off body parts to changes one’s birth gender is a good thing to do? Who thinks that sending $100+ B to Ukraine to supposedly fight Russians with our own border under invasion is a good thing? Who likes their public schools under attack by crazies and drug dealers? It goes on and on. If any part of that is OK to endure please check yourself into the nearest psych hospital. It is not and never will be.

The truth will set is free. So resist the evil and get active in opposition where you are.


“The 2000 election aftermath nearly tore the country apart.”


I would say it did tear the country apart, and we are living in the wreckage of the aftermath.


“Trump Chose not to escalate the 2020 electoral debacle.”


But it was not a debacle, it was a crime, a crime of treason among many others, committed by enemies both foreign and domestic.

Trump did not have either the right or the authority to ‘not escalate’.

In the presidential oath of office, there is no qualifier allowing POTUS to choose whether to defend and uphold the Constitution. Not for any presumed (and always deceitful) ‘greater good’, or because Leftists would be butt-hurt, or any other reason.

And there’s a reason for that.

The reason is because it would be insanely dangerous to take a gamble that traitors, once taking control of the police and military, could ever be forced out — especially knowing this generation’s hyperactive aversion to the word ‘force’, much less actually using any.

Absent the ‘white hat’ deus ex machina fantasy, where a super-secret, all knowing, all powerful and mistake-proof group inside the government (you know, the kind of people who always secretly exist in the world’s most giant bureaucracy…) allows all of this to happen, only because at a time of their choosing, these god-like government employees and historically infallible military can pull the power cord on the movie projector and make it all stop.

Or something.


“If he & some (military) advisors watched the Steal in real time in a SCIF, as has been implied/stated multiple times, they “have it all” & can (& hopefully will) provide the Proof when the crucial time comes.”


The crucial time came and went already. It is only through denial of that reality that we can begin to entertain fantasies about all of this fiction narrative.


“I seriously doubt that RealPOTUS will show (all of) his Trump cards before a kangaroo court that will do its damnedest to bury him & MAGA.”


Agreed, it’s too late now.

The time to do that was when he was in a position of lawful power and authority.

Not when he’s on the outside, looking in.

The only thing that exceeds the amount of danger we are in, is the amount of denial we have about the reality of that danger.

But it doesn’t matter.

It’s just words.

And words are not going to change a single thing.

No one’s mind will be changed, no actions will be taken, everyone will continue to believe whatever they want to believe, because that’s what people do.

Whatever will be, will be.

All is vanity.

Valerie Curren

What do You think Trump Should have done?

Regarding the 2020 fraudlection he had numerous lawsuits going & most were thrown out (fraudulently) for “lack of standing”. I used to have a table of all the various cases & the ones that were Actually heard I believe that Trump’s side largely won, not that it seemed to make much difference.

When I said “escalate” it was that RealPOTUS seemed to always be conducting himself within the letter of the law & the Constitution. What happened, or didn’t, in CONgress on January 6 was the Real Electoral Fraud. Was Trump wrong to tell his supporters in DC to “remain peaceful”?

I guess that maybe I’ve imbibed a bit of Hopium inadvertently for I thought at least Part of what is currently happening w/ Trump’s various legal cases is that EVIDENCE is going to be presented in open court…fwiw.

Nothing will restore us/the world to the status prior to the 3-4 years of the FJB/LGB usurpation. At this point it’s Where Do We Go From Here???

I don’t have Any answers. When Ivanna was killed that seemed like a pretty big warning to Trump & his family.

I’d like to think that he is actually still operating as a secret wartime president w/ a small group of trusted military completely loyal to the Constitution & the CIC but that seems like a pretty big stretch.

Should he actually get a(n overt) second term then it’s vital that all the Deep State plants in his administration are rooted out & no longer able to thwart his vital work of restoring the Republic. Eliminating SES would be a good start to fumigate the Obamaroids…

Sylvia Avery

“I’d like to think that he is actually still operating as a secret wartime president w/ a small group of trusted military completely loyal to the Constitution & the CIC but that seems like a pretty big stretch.”

I don’t actually think that is as big a stretch as it seems on the surface. After digging into it, there is evidence to support the notion, including laws, legal decisions, executive orders and the like.

“Should he actually get a(n overt) second term then it’s vital that all the Deep State plants in his administration are rooted out & no longer able to thwart his vital work of restoring the Republic. Eliminating SES would be a good start to fumigate the Obamaroids…”

Oh YES! And I know he has plans for this already drawn up. I hope to live long enough to see it all happen.

Valerie Curren

Oh Sylvia–TY so much for your precious insights!!! This is Most Encouraging!!!!!!!!

Sylvia Avery

You are welcome. I hope things are going well for you and your family. ❤️❤️❤️

Valerie Curren

TY They’re pretty good overall. I shared a bit about a recent Liver Transplant visit for my son Josiah here :

if you want details.

How are things going for you? Hope you had a wonderful Thanksgiving 🙂

Valerie Curren

once taking control of the police and military”

This largely happened Before Trump, imo, so we were already lost…we just didn’t know it yet  😡 


“This largely happened Before Trump, imo, so we were already lost…we just didn’t know it yet”


If Trump is a quadruple-D genius with the master plan, then he certainly knew it before he ever came down the escalator.

He had four years to fix it, to fire the Obama-Marxists and replace them with patriots.

He didn’t fix any of it, and he certainly isn’t fixing any of it now, when he is out of office.

Valerie Curren

This is NOT meant to be argumentative for I greatly appreciate your remarks…

The crucial time came and went already.”

When, in your opinion, was the “crucial time”, & what should have been done?


“When, in your opinion, was the “crucial time”,”


Any time up to the moment the traitor-puppet Brandon was sworn in.

The Republic was officially lost at that moment. It was that moment that America fell to the enemy. Hardly anyone even noticed.

Since that moment, America is an occupied nation in need of liberation.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Remember when they were saying we couldn’t arrest Brandon until he was sworn in? To “complete the crime”?

And then we had to wait for Ten Days Of Darkness?

At that point it was obviously horse shit.


“And then we had to wait for Ten Days Of Darkness?”


You just didn’t understand that one day for us is one year for white hats inside the government.

So to correctly decipher the code, they meant 10 years of darkness, and we’ve been through nearly 3 full years, so only 7 more to go.

I’m feelin’ better already 👍😂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

You misspelled “century.”

Well, it feels like three centuries.

Valerie Curren

Fortunately We/our side doesn’t live by our feelings  😜 

…at least we’ve got each other 😉 😉

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Valerie Curren

America is an occupied nation in need of liberation.”

agreed  😡 


“& what should have been done?”


The POTUS has a military for a reason.

The PRIMARY reason for the existence of the military is not to go around the world bullying other nations into accepting Leftist dictates.

When the POTUS becomes aware of a plot to steal the election (and the whole country that goes WITH it), he has a duty and obligation to STOP it.

It’s not a popularity contest. It doesn’t matter if Leftards are butt-hurt over it. It doesn’t matter if people are ‘awake’ or sound asleep. None of that matters.

What matters is securing the Republic against enemies foreign and domestic.

Does it look like that happened?

Was the Republic secured?

Or was it handed over, on a platter, to those who would destroy us?

The primary reason for the existence of the military is to defend the Republic.

They didn’t.

They’re off galavanting all over the globe, oppressing People in far away lands in the name of Hussein and Marxist dogma, while the homeland was (and is now) left WIDE OPEN to continuous invasion since the puppet-traitor Brandon was sworn in.

Valerie Curren



I’m just frustrated, I didn’t mean to come across harshly! 😁

Valerie Curren

No it’s no prob! I’m just surprised that my comment deserved the dissection for I am definitely among “the least of these” around here. Your insights are epic….but you did sound rather hopeless at the end 🙁 Truly our Only Hope comes in the Lord  😇 


I don’t really think about whether any comment is ‘deserving’, and even if I did, who am I to judge what is deserving, or what isn’t?

It’s a much more organic or natural process. As I read something, either it provokes a response or it doesn’t. If it does, and I don’t ‘get it out’, the moment will be gone.

I can still do a reply if I come back to it later, if there is a reason to, but it won’t be the same, it won’t be spontaneous or have the same energy, for lack of a better term.

As for any so-called insights, it reminded me of the FIB meme where the agent accused the people on a blog of being retards.

I found it 😁

“Their response was to not only agree and praise my assessment “so true, king…etc.” then individual members began posting “I am Retard” like it was Spartacus…” 👍😂

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Valerie Curren



“Your insights are epic….but you did sound rather hopeless at the end 🙁 Truly our Only Hope comes in the Lord 😇”


I just don’t understand how anything changes for the better without people taking some kind of action.

The times in Scripture where the Lord defeated the enemy for the people seems to be the exception (e.g., 2 Kings 19:35, when the angel of the Lord slew 185,000 Assyrians), not the rule.

Most of the time, the people had to DO something, and the Lord brought about victory through them.

The last time I talked about this, I mentioned Noah and Abraham.

God didn’t build the ark for Noah and put him in it, Noah had to build it.

When Abraham’s nephew Lot and his group were taken prisoner, Abraham didn’t expect the Lord to return him safely, he went and rescued him, and God blessed his efforts and caused Abraham to prevail.

Was the gospel of Christ going to preach itself, or did people need to do it?

The examples are many.

I just don’t understand where the passivity comes from.

Passivity is generally not very masculine, and I can’t recall many instances when God’s people were being afflicted, and God told His people to kick back and relax, while He went and took care of the problem for them.

So I have great difficulty understanding the idea of ‘hope’ without any associated ‘action’.

Goliath is another example. Did God slay Goliath, or did He use David to do it?

Did God hand off the Ten Commandments to Moses in his tent, or did Moses have to go up the mountain to get them?

Not once, but twice?

Did God confront Pharaoh personally while Moses and the rest of the Israelites waited, or did Moses have to go back to Pharaoh again and again, to convey God’s messages?

Did the walls of Jericho come tumbling down while Israel rested, or did they have to march seven times around?

Our hope should certainly be in the Lord, without His help and blessing we won’t get anywhere on our own.

And I have observed, in the majority of examples in Scripture, which are preserved for our learning (cf. Romans 15:4), the People had to do something.

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Valerie Curren

Amen. In hoping in the Lord I didn’t mean that we should be passive. I guess this world is getting so dark that actions that Might work toward overtly overcoming the monstrous evil oozing ubiquitously seem Almost fruitless so I was pointing to the Ultimate Victory in Christ, where we have eternal hope. It is less clear if any hope in this world is warranted. It’s Very Hard to Know what actions we should take to effect the huge changes we desire, beyond our conduct in our personal lives & direct spheres of influence…ymmv…


Yes, I wasn’t addressing your comment specifically, I meant generally, I frequently see what appears to be a desire to just “hand everything off” to God and let Him fix it, but I am not aware of much precedent for that approach in Scripture.

There are BILLIONS of ‘us’, and there are thousands of ‘them’.

We have ALL of the power, if we would just STAND UP.

But we don’t.

We sit around and analyze everything to death, while we’re being pushed over a cliff.

It’s like watching Pee-Wee Herman beating up Mike Tyson.

And Mike Tyson is doing a play-by-play during the fight, how Pee-Wee is doing this or that or the other, and Mike just keeps taking it, never once putting his guard up or even taking a swing at Pee-Wee.

It’s ridiculous, but that’s what is happening.

I don’t understand it any better than I understand why people do most things that don’t make any sense.

It’s like humanity is sick in the head.

There’s something wrong with people.

Deeply wrong.

It’s not normal to allow TPTB, a tiny fraction of the world population, to upend the lives of everyone on the freaking planet.

And we all just watch it happen.

Like watching our own executioner coming toward us, and we could defeat him easily, but instead we do a play-by-play analysis.

“There he is, walking at roughly 1.7mph, he’s carrying hood and a rope. He’s about 75 feet away, walking very deliberatively.

There are 10,000 of us in the arena, and there’s just one of him, but let’s just watch and see what happens.

Okay, he’s 40 feet away now. Giving us the stink-eye. Let’s not do anything.

He’s 15 feet away now, don’t make any sudden moves, we don’t want to upset our executioner.

And here we go. The rope goes over our head. And now the hood. Might have expected the hood to go first, then the rope, so it was a nice change up.

The interior of the hood is rough, more of a canvass type material. Dark. Definitely dark.

Let’s not do anything to disturb him, wouldn’t want to make him angry. All 10,000 of us just sit there and watch, while one scrawny POS hangs us one by one.”

It doesn’t make any sense.

Nothing makes sense anymore.

Valerie Curren

Great AND disturbing analogy 🙁


I’m coming back to read your post again. Couldn’t get to it all right now.

I’m with you on your thinking – it’s kind of why I’ve kept hope that Trump had Trump cards yet to be played.

I’ve said a number of times, over at the Crow’s Nest, that 1) I couldn’t believe that Trump would abandon his responsibilities to the country. 2) His sole job, and most important duty was to the Constitution and protecting this country.

“Letting” the steal happen, which was essentially an overthrow of the United States, means that he was derelict in his duty…

Something that I can’t envision being true for Trump.

Therefore it takes me back to believing, and I think there are numerous examples of hints/tidbits I call them, that indicate something else is in play.

Believing this is what has got me and my hubby through all this time, although some days have been very discouraging.

Then Dear Wolfie comes along and brings perspective and hope.


pick your battles carefully


I’m with Trump.

Jan 6 2017 was Insurrection Day.

Not 2021.


Maybe for you it’s not a choice, but for me it is

There is almost always a choice, even if it is a Hobson’s choice in the sense that it is not a choice between two options that are equal to one another.

I understand what you’re saying. At the same time, I do not ascribe one-tenth of your intellect and reasoning abilities to most of the people promoting these ideas. I don’t believe for a moment that they have thought it through in the way that you have, partly because they never express it in the way that you have. What I see is conspiracy theory for the sake of continuing the mystique of Q and for promoting the persona of “Superman Trump.” I also think the idea that the white hats are not in complete control, having planned and orchestrated everything down to losing an election on purpose “so the people would wake up” is something they can’t face. It’s that mentality that I protest against. Many of these are the same people who promote other outlandish theories, none of which have been shown to be true.

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“Many of these folks cannot live under realization of the actual circumstances.”


They’d be surprised what they can live with.



It was this episode, many years ago, that I first heard of Solomon Burke, and his cover of the song None of Us are Free playing at the end of the scene 🙂


Also don’t want to rehash pause, going into November 3 or January 6.

Trump’s odds of successfully stopping the coup, dwindled with an inner circle, caving in the face of adversity. Within WH, DoD, Treasury, Courts, Pence

  • Not the folks one wants in a foxhole, when all hell breaks loose. <<< Worst possible time to realize, Key Folks have No Backbone. No Integrity. Oath means nothing to them.
  • Compounding the problems, Uniparty & Pravda News managing narrative.

I don’t blame Trump. Live to fight another day.

Trump has never stopped fighting for America.

At this point, I don’t even believe 50/50, we’ll have an election, November 5, 2024.


Anther great post.

So much food for thought in here today!


^^^ Outstanding. 👏

Speaking of the Cuemeister (my current term of choice), as most know on here moves and countermoves can mean much more than constant open attack or even open retreat. Nothing in those terms infers control of the board. If one does believe in the use of game theory, the moves are planned well in advance with countermoves based on the opponents’ responses that are gamed out well in advance. What happens if an opponents move was not gamed out due to any number of reasons? As Wolf stated, there are multiple dimensions of games being played at the same time.

As a result I see no end victory for all time until Jesus returns.

IMO, there is no open “control” of the board except by God, who is over everything. The games being played on multiple levels and dimensions will come to an end when He says it is time. He granted mankind and apparently His angels the right to choose to obey or rebel. Satan and crew are wrecking havoc on the earth while they are allotted time to do so in accordance with Gods plan. That’s the part many people do not get. It is not man’s world to do what he/she wants with it.

So we simply choose this day whom we will serve. Truth is on God’s side. Everything else is on the losing side.

We are in the revelation of truth period now. IMO we are still in the early stages.

Valerie Curren

Excellent!  🙏 




Heh, read this after my comment posted. I concur, TB. Truth and TIME are both on God’s side 👍


The 2020 Election; A Poem

They cheated.
Trump tried.
The courts bailed.
The media lied.

The patriots fought.
The lawyers pled.
The capitol was fraught.
The cowards fled.

Trump saw the light.
The time wasn’t yet.
Though he knew our plight.
He made the safer bet.

To wait for 2024.
To plot and to plan.
To show the Deep State the door.
We know he is the man.

So now we will vote.
Trump’s plan will renew.
The left’s chances are remote.
There’s not much they can do.

Valerie Curren

I forgot we even Had a PoeTree  🙄  LOL

Valerie Curren

never more


Lol, cool.

Cuppa Covfefe

Where all the Poe folk meet 😀




Aubergine 👍👍 Onward and upward 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸




Applause! 👏




You’re right – the analogy was not quite up to the task.

It would be better if everyone stopped talking about theoretical possibilities and focus on reasonable probabilities. In the movie, Doctor Kimball jumps off a dam spillway into the river below and survives. Although theoretically possible, the most likely outcome was death or severe injury. Therefore it wasn’t really a reasonable choice which is what the movie tried to portray.

The likelihood that someone like DJT ever considered going outside the constitution in order to right a wrong is just plain silly, and unworthy of discussion. It also means they didn’t read The Art of the Deal.

However, the thrust of your comment is correct.


The likelihood that someone like DJT ever considered going outside the constitution in order to right a wrong is just plain silly, and unworthy of discussion. 


Gail Combs

I think that Trump and Team ALLOWED the election to be stolen and then ALLOWED the stolen election to stand.

My reasons for this belief is complex and based on history and hints. I think POTUS Trump is the ‘face’ of a group. I think there is an international aspect to that group and I think the cabal is centuries or more old. The Q Op is just one aspect of the 5th Generation Warfare we are witnessing ACROSS THE WORLD.

The USA has been under attack from the British Empire since inception. The latest attack began as Psychological Warfare over 100 years ago with John Dewey’s attack on our education system.

Because the ROT is so embedded, the apathy so ingrained and the people are so brainwashed, 8 years of a good president would not dislodge the deeply embedded ‘Useful Idiots’ in our government and worse our culture. All Trump could do was give people a four year experience they could then compare to now. He could also use those 4 years to gather evidence.

You might want to look at War Nuse May 22nd 2020 THREAD. and The British East India Company And The Deep State
During the 2016 election, Dr Steve Pieczenik went on Alex Jones and said steps were being taking to prevent the corruption of the 2016 presidential election. (4 min clip)


From Trump himself:

In an interview Wayne Root suggests Trump become Speaker of the house and investigate the Biden crime family.
Trump: “…Well, I think a lot of things are happening, a lot of very positive things are happening and you know when you look into the future that was your idea I heard it from you first. And frankly I hope we don’t need it. Because what should happen is THE PLAN WE’RE ON NOW, AND I THINK A PLAN THAT’S GOING TO MAKE PEOPLE VERY VERY HAPPY WE’LL BE ANNOUNCING SOMETIME LATER. aND THAT’S REALLY WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN…”

Trump: “I have seen the system up close and personal for many years. I have been a major part of it. I know how the game works in Washington and on Wall Street. And I know how they have rigged the rules of the game against everyday Americans. I am not a politician and I have never wanted to be a politician. Believe me. But when I saw the trouble our country was in I knew I could not stand by and watch any longer…”

TRUMP rally: Clinton TWP., MI
This persecution is being done by the same weaponized agencies that for seven years have been running illegal psychological warfare campaigns against the American people. Much as if they were trying to destablize a foreign country

👉And in my second term which we are sort of having now..But I don’t want the results

👉…I don’t want the results of this SECOND TERM, this SECOND TERM is a disaster for this country.

I’m a war time president, this is a war, this is a war, a different kind of a war than we ever had.

I have 20pages of this sort of stuff but I haven’t had the chance to pound it into submission and make it an artlce.

Valerie Curren



Interesting info. I will ask the question I always ask: If he allowed it, then what could he have done to stop it?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

And I will ask mine.

What would hypothetically prove you wrong?

What makes your theory falsifiable in the sense a scientist uses the term?

Since you dodge this question every time I ask it…


I don’t have specifics, but I have a negative impression of Steve Piecezenik. I realize that that is meaningless without evidence. For one thing, I haven’t known his predictions to come true.

The statements by Trump can be taken by someone like me, who does not believe he is actually in control of the WH at this time, as validation of what I know to be the case: he is actively working to save the country even though he is not in office. He has made policy position statements for his campaign. He has been telling us what he plans to do about the border and other issues. He has been influencing decisions and elections in whatever ways he can. He is not like a president who served one term and then retired to his estate or ranch. That’s all that I think “THE PLAN WE’RE ON NOW, AND I THINK A PLAN THAT’S GOING TO MAKE PEOPLE VERY VERY HAPPY” means. Of course he has a plan. Does that make it “the plan” where people believe he lost the election on purpose? IMO, no.

As for statements about his second term, he did win the last election. He sees himself as rightfully the president. I have no doubt he is doing all kinds of things that we are not aware of, but none of that means he “allowed” himself to be defeated, and it doesn’t mean he is actually serving in office now.

Valerie Curren

He sees himself as rightfully the president.”

As do so many of us…sort of the real “ruler” in exile…sigh…vichy-bois squat in our White House  😡 

Sylvia Avery

I think you are correct Gail. If we listen to PDJT, he tells us in broad terms what is going on.

We are at war, it is just a different type of war so not everyone recognizes it.


One reason my first comment on yesterday’s post asked about De Pat’s weekend was that I suspected little sleep had been included. I hope that fully explains De Pat’s absence tonight and that she’s ok.

Deplorable Patriot

From Friday evening, when we had a full dress rehearsal, to Sunday evening, I sang a full two hour concert three times. We stood for all of it, only getting a break at intermission.

Those were my first concerts since 2020. It was hot under the robes, too. I lost count the number of times I broke out in a sweat. Let’s just say I was WIPED when I got home on Sunday. The adrenaline was gone yesterday, and then it got cloudy….



Be gentle with yourself. It was a little thing, sleeping though a post — and we’re just thankful it was nothing worse.


Watch your water consumption and electrolytes.

I’m probably trying to teach my grandma to suck eggs by reminded you of that, though!

Deplorable Patriot

Believe me, we singers have ever present water bottles. At the opera level, a lot of singers use Gatorade.




Thank goodness you responded here, DPat. I concur that your sleep and health come first in order for you to share your superb singing with others during this Holy season. At the same time, it’s an alarmed ‘thunk’ when I come here for my nightly dose of DPat’s choice art and selective links and commentary, and my screen is blank. Your dedication to this site is much appreciated.


Tesla robots vs. Cybertruck. I do not want a future where robots have firearms and can attack us, but I think we’re already there.

Valerie Curren

Skynet slouching toward Armageddon  😡 


If you can’t beat ’em, join ’em.

Elon is exactly the type who, for fun, would promote the insertion of a code in the robots that automatically protects anyone who is a Tesla share holder, on account of it being bad business for his products to harm people who own his company.

As the robot fear grows, he could inspire 8 billion people to buy at least one share of his company — a sort of insurance policy, to protect themselves from the Terminator

Wonder what that would do for the Tesla share price… 😁

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Barb Meier

I can’t see inside Elon’s head, but don’t see him as a money-hungry monster.

He has a busy mind and hands, that’s for sure. He seems to be a workaholic. I think he does not care as much about money as it might seem. For him, money is a tool and a byproduct of doing things that mentally fascinate him.

He loves life and has several children to prove it matters to him. He is not risk averse. He is willing to give up a lot of money both for what he sees as right (buying Twitter to save free speech) and what may fullfill personal goals (going to Mars in his lifetime).

His GFY statement telling bigwig leftists not buy ads from X shows he does not kowtow to the manipulation of others to increase his company’s position. His trip to better understand Israel and Gaza seemed thoughtful and resulted in him providing Skynet to Gaza at Israel’s request.

Does Elon listen to God? I can’t say. All in God’s time. I hope he experiences the spiritual gifts God gives us if we just ask Him and listen for guidance.


“I can’t see inside Elon’s head, but don’t see him as a money-hungry monster.”


I did not mean to suggest that he was!


“He has a busy mind and hands, that’s for sure. He seems to be a workaholic. I think he does not care as much about money as it might seem.”


He cares about his shareholders, and he even advises them, encouraging his retail investors (regular people) to buy the dips and take a little profit when Tesla is overbought. He knows that the institutional investors hate him, and most of his retail investors love him.

In order to care about his shareholders, and in order to care about achieving his objectives with Tesla, Starlink, etc., he has to care about money.


“For him, money is a tool and a byproduct of doing things that mentally fascinate him.”


Is that not true, on a personal level, for everyone who has more money than they could ever spend?

It’s easy then, to be abstract about money.

But when you need money to survive, the perspective of a gazillionaire is not an available indulgence 😉


“He is not risk averse.”


During the most recent Tesla earnings call, Elon went off on a tangent about the early days of Tesla, about the time when they needed to obtain financing in order to make payroll, and it came right down to the wire.

They were able to get the financing at the last moment, but the experience scarred him. He never, ever wants to be in that position again.

This is at least one of the primary reasons why Tesla has essentially no debt, and maintains a high cash balance (around $25 billion, last I checked).

So, he may be a little more risk averse than many people give him credit for 😁

Valerie Curren

owe no man any debt but the continuing debt of love 

Barb Meier

Thanks for expanding your thoughts, Scott. I don’t pay as much attention to the stock market side of things but did remember him talking about the early days of Tesla and needing financing to meet payroll. I did not remember the part about not wanting to be in that position again. Still, that seems different than purely focusing on getting more stockholders for Tesla. Of course, I could be wrong about risk aversion. You know how people are… I still think I’m right. LOL


I may have misunderstood your original reply, or maybe my original post was misunderstood.

When I said:

“Elon is exactly the type who, for fun, would promote the insertion of a code in the robots that automatically protects anyone who is a Tesla share holder, on account of it being bad business for his products to harm people who own his company”

I meant that it would be consistent with his sense of humor, not anything at all to do with being a ‘money-hungry monster’ 😁


What possible benefit does Starlink [not Skynet] provide to Israel?

All such access does is to give Hamas a way to coordinate its members in another attack on Israeli Jews.

Barb Meier

The Israeli military is in Gaza too. I read they were flooding a large number of the tunnels. If they have a lot of soldiers there, they need to communicate with each other.

Robert Baker

The likely future is Robo-Cop not Bicentennial Man. It is the nature of human beings to lean toward violent solutions. Once you understand that reality, history makes sense.


That is certainly the nature and history of concentrating power in the hands of the few, or what we otherwise call government.


You do realize this is fake, right?


Fake or not, I still think it’s possible and that we don’t know the real capabilities that are being developed with robots.



I saw Westworld at the drive-in movie theater when I was young! 😁

Sylvia Avery

Ahhh….drive in theaters! Now those were the days! 😁😁😁


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Valerie Curren

on steroids.. this is NOT America nor American  😡 


^^^ Jabs straight at Eng-Moron,

Taunting Eng-Moron, to his face.

Trump ignores gag order. Wish Trump testifying Monday was televised.

pat frederick

can you imagine?
President Trump would be in his element…they can’t have that!


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abuse of power as retribution…?

tell me again….who’s the dictator…?


They are projecting that is what communists do .

Cuppa Covfefe


Tools and fools of Satan.

As is HELL-the-BEAST, Øbløwhøle, the rest of the Klint00ns, and the Pigløsi Mafiøsi…


Point and laugh….

Barb Meier



Jack Smith is a danger to all of us not just Trump. People like him are no better than the henchmen of Stalin, Mao and Hitler. You all know about this but I just was compelled to say it over and over 🙄

Barb Meier

Jack Smith told Fed Court he’s butt hurt and words can hurt him.

Cuppa Covfefe

Got slapped too hard when he was born and he’s been bitching about it ever since.

Trouble is, they slapped his face. Seems they couldn’t tell the difference…..


I think the better term is “retaliation”


Off topic.

Them hens earning their keep?


Hannity is a duns no brain cells left. He is trying to trick Trump. He is a two faced Fox mouth piece.


Hannity asking questions Given to him AND required to do so.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Also required to not let the person answer.

Cuppa Covfefe

Oh, the inHannity…

Valerie Curren

TY for your wise & hopeful take! AND for stepping in on an emergency post. Is everything OK w/ DP?

Have an awesome day Alpha Wolf. We are so blessed to have you as the fearless & tireless leader of the Wolf Pack  😎