Health Friday Open Thread 12.27.2024: Year-End Wrap Up Edition

The above image of a year-end wrap up countdown is courtesy of The Productive Woman and Google Images.

Health Friday is a series related to Big Pharma, vaccines, general health, and associated topics. Since today’s post mentions the COVID-19 virus itself, and the COVID-19 BTI (Bioweapon Toxic Injections, aka the “vaccines”), it is dedicated to the memory of Yours Truly’s “fully vaccinated and boosted” late brother, Sam; to her late cousin Bill; and, to all persons, of whatever age or location, who have passed away from the negative effects of the COVID-19 “vaccines” that they had in their bodies.

There are Important Wolf Moon Notifications, the Rules of our late, good Wheatie, and certain caveats by Yours Truly, of which readers should be aware. These are linked here. The discussion is not limited to what is presented in today’s post: It is an Open Thread.

Yours Truly will begin the Health Friday 2024 Year-End Wrap Up Edition with these:

And, many people who did “shut up and obey” are starting to realize that they have likely permanently damaged their bodies (and brains) via the multiple negative effects of the COVID-19 BTI (Bioweapon Toxin Injections, aka the COVID-19 “vaccines”) that they had put into their bodies.

And, continues with these:

https://kirschsubstack.com/p/a-summary-of-the-evidence-against, “A Summary of the evidence against the COVID vaccines”, by Steve Kirsch, 6 January 2024.

www.theqtree.com/2024/11/01/health-friday-open-thread-11-1-2024-the-covid-19-vaccines-information-file-part-one/

www.theqtree.com/2024/12/20/health-friday-holiday-exchange-open-thread-12020.2024/.

And, some new information to help round out the year 2024:

From Steve Kirsch’s blog: https://kirschsubstack.com/p/the-cfr-from-the-pfizer-trial-show. “The CFR from the Pfizer trial show the vaccines make you 14X more likely to die from COVID”, 24 December 2024. Mr. Kirsch performed a statistical analysis of the Supplementary Table S4 of this 2021 paper: https://doi.org/10.1056/NEJMoa2110345, “Safety and Efficacy of the BNT162b2 mRNA Covid-19 Vaccine through 6 Months”, Philip R. Dormitzer, M.D., Ph.D., et al, published 15 September 2021. There are over 25 authors of this paper. Most of them are affiliated with Pfizer-BioNTech, the developer (along with several other entities, such as the United States Department of Defense, United States Army) and manufacturer (along with the United States Department of Defense, United States Army) of BNT162b2. Apparently, the CDC never performed its own analysis of the data presented in the paper. Mr. Kirsch performed the first real analysis. Here is his conclusion (from his blog post):

CFR = Case Fatality Rate. Below is the Supplementary Table S4 from the paper:

Note that “Unblinding” means that Pfizer-BioNTech offered to give BNT162b2 injections to “Blinded” subjects in the C4591001 clinical trial. Most of the “Unblinded” participants accepted the offer and took the injections. This also means that data collected from the “Blinded” subjects after they took the injections is potentially compromised. However, even with this caveat, the data on the Supplementary Table S4 confirm that persons who took BNT162b2 had adverse events that the “Placebo” (“Blinded”) group did not have.

From Mole at Substack, an important post regarding “educated hesitancy” about “new drugs and novel vaccines”: https://mole.substack.com/p/c-and-c-today-new-peer-reviewed-study, “C&C today: new peer-reviewed study tears jabs a new one”, 23 December 2024. The paper referred to is here: https://journals.sagepub.com/10.1077/09246479241292008. “Pharmaceutical product recall and educated hesitancy towards new drugs and novel vaccines”, Peter Rhodes and Peter I Perry, 6 November 2024. Below is a graphic from this paper, followed by the Conclusion:

Then, two blog posts from Nick Hunt (Daily Sceptic): https://dailysceptic.org/2024/10/08/the-hidden-report-that-shows-up-to-40-more-heart-conditions-in-the-vaccinated/; and, https://dailysceptic.org/2024/12/11/revealed-the-full-hidden-pfizer-report-that-shows-heart-conditions-in-the-vaccinated-getting-worse-over-time/. Mr. Hunt was able to procure a copy of this confidential Pfizer-BioNTech report of March 2024. It is here: https://dailysceptic.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/06-C4591021-interim5-report-body.pdf. In Yours Truly’s opinion, this Interim Report by Pfizer-BioNTech given for the European Union Post-Authorization Study for BNT162b2 is dynamite. The statistics related to cardiovascular events begins on page 119 of the report. **** Note: It is important to also recognize, per the statistics in this report, that the COVID-19 virus itself can, and does, cause multiple types of adverse events in and of itself. However, in the vast majority of the statistical tables in this report, the incidence of adverse events reported among the COVID-19 “vaccinated”, especially as regards cardiovascular events, is higher. Below is page 119 of the Pfizer-BioNTech report:

And, to finish the 2024 wrap-up, the link to Katherine Watt’s Substack blog, Bailiwick News, listing and detailing the multiple signed (and, in some cases, also not redacted) agreements between the United States Department of Defense, United States Army, regarding the development, manufacturing, and distribution for administration, of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 BTI (Bioweapon Toxin Injection, aka COVID-19 “vaccine”) BNT162b2: https://bailiwicknews.com/p/on-contracts-consortium-agreement. “On contracts: consortium agreement; base agreement; technical direction letter-statement of work; project agreement”, 9 December 2024 (repost of her 28 April 2023 post.) The post is long and very detailed. It is worth reading through. There is much information in the documents that blows the lid off the cooperation between the Defense Department / United States Army, and Pfizer-BioNTech. This is, in Yours Truly’s opinion, a chain of documents that must be brought to the attention of both Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., (as the incoming Secretary of Health and Human Services); and, incoming President of the United States Donald J. Trump, on 20 January 2025, after President Trump is inaugurated the 47th President of the United States.

Yours Truly urges all readers to build and maintain the highest possible degree of general health, and also the health of their natural immune systems. One also urges all readers who may be COVID-19 “vaccinated” to seriously consider investigating, and following, a COVID-19 “vaccine” detoxification / mitigation protocol, such as the ones listed on the FLCCC website: https://covid19criticalcare.com/.

Yours Truly wishes all readers a healthy New Year 2025! Peace, Good Energy, Respect: PAVACA

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cthulhu

Thank you, CV, for presenting us this year-end wrap-up. Hopefully by next year, we can look back on it with knowledge that we have turned the corner and things will get better from here.

Valerie Curren

Amen!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Thank you!

Yes, it’s been a heck of a year!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Check this out. They’re STILL up to tricks.

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Hans Mahncke

@HansMahncke

When I first saw that WSJ put out a lab leak article this morning, I assumed it was a typical Johnny-come-lately alibi effort. After all, the facts have been known for many years, yet one had to rely on Twitter to learn about them.

However, a closer look at the WSJ article reveals that it is far worse than that. This isn’t merely an alibi piece to cover up the WSJ’s failure to report the truth over the past five years. Rather, it is a propaganda piece designed to further advance the cover-up. All the major players—Fauci, Andersen, and especially Baric—are portrayed as innocent bystanders rather than as key figures who were instrumental in the entire disaster. Blame for the origin cover up, if any, is attributed to infighting among intelligence agencies.

The entire article is a monumental fraud, and instead of celebrating it, people should be calling out the WSJ for its deception.

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GA/FL

Exactly – painted with ‘whitewash’ aka lipstick on a pig.

Gail Combs

Notice it is ‘DEPARTMENTS’ and not individuals. That means there is no one to target.

Aubergine

None of this will change or be fixed until Donald Trump humbles himself and admits his own part in it. That’s my opinion.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The truth will come out – one way or another.

Gail Combs

Trump had to tread very, very lightly on the subject of the Covid Clot Shots.

The real villain is Mike Pence and his chief of staff, Marc Short.

Dr Navarro’s interaction with Pence’s Covid Task Force is detailed in his book: In Trump Time: A Journal of America’s Plague Year
Pence’s chief of staff was Marc Short. Short came under fire for “…possessing up to $1.6 million worth of stocks in companies working with Pence’s coronavirus task force to fight the COVID-19 pandemic. He worked as a senior fellow at the Miller Center of Public Affairs, a CNN contributor, and Chief of Staff to Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, and the House Republican Conference. He served as the president of Freedom Partners Chamber of Commerce from 2011 to 2016.” LINK
Page 33 details Dr Navarro’s banishment from the Coronavirus Task Force over the travel ban. “– And it would be permanent – was Mick Mulvaney’s revenge.”

Dr Navarro confronted Fauci with evidence — Study after study THAT HE IGNORED.

[On page 89 – 91 Dr Navarro confronted Fauci for a second time. The first was over the Travel Ban.]

On April 4, I had my second major facedown with Saint Fauci…

This time the facedown with Fauci was over hydroxychloroquine. In preparation I had Doc Hatfill and my team prepare a large dossier with hundreds of pages of scientific studies I had reviewed on the safety and efficacy of hydroxychloroquine. I knew that Fauci would play the ‘there’s only anecdotal evidence’ card and wanted to be ready to prove that assertion false….

Adam was followed by Hahn, and to my surprise, even Hahn had some encouraging words for hydroxychloroquine…

When it was Fauci’s turn, right on cue, he immediately played his “there’s only anecdotal evidence’ card. I stood up from my backbench chair just behind Vice President Pence and walked straight towards Fauci.

As I approached him I saw fear in his eyes. I am sure it crossed his mind that I might physically assault him. I dumped my large dossier of studies…. And said to Fauci as much as to everyone else in the room –especially VPOTUS – “Tony these are not anecdotes. That’s more than fifty scientific studies in support of hydroxy. FIFTY! So stop spouting your crap…. You are going to kill people just like you did during the AIDS crisis when you refused to approve medicines that everybody but you knew worked.”

If looks could kill...

Also if I recall, I think it was the Stafford Act, meant the President has to defer to experts such as Fauci.

The Stafford Act can only be used at the request of governors and tribal leaders. By proactively approving such requests, the president essentially has allowed FEMA to take control of the disaster response, which can then cover much of the costs for the state, local, tribal and territorial emergency operations. The law was designed exactly for this purpose.

In the aftermath of 9/11, when I was asked to lead a massive reorganization of the federal government as the first U.S. secretary of homeland security, I was privileged to meet and work with many of the outstanding men and women of FEMA. It felt good knowing that legislation I authored years before as a young congressman had significantly boosted their ability to help devastated communities.

https://www.yorkdispatch.com/story/opinion/contributors/2020/03/29/op-ed-support-president-trumps-use-stafford-act/2936000001/

pgroup2

Ridge wrote this op-ed in 2020. Seems a bit obsolete to me, in that DHS thugs have resorted to the murder of one of its own in order to maintain power.  😡 

Gail Combs

A few years ago I saw something that indicated that the president had to defer to experts according to the Stafford Act. I have never been able to find that article again or anything else that was clear cut about that directive.

Practicing Medicine without a licence maybe?

I am fairly sure there were restrictions on just what POTUS Trump was actually able to do in regards to Covid, HCQ and the Clot Shot.

If nothing else there were ‘optics’ and another possible impeachment.

Valerie Curren

Political Moonshine dove pretty deep on the Covid fraud, including stealing Executive Power from Trump in a “health emergency”, & this was written into presidential transition documents, iirc. There was a threat of removing a non-compliant President via the 25th Amendment if he didn’t defer to medical “experts” in this arena.

https://politicalmoonshine.com/2021/09/29/covid-19-enterprise-fraud-construct-timeline-major-dates-events-entities-legislation/

All quotes below are from the above link…

Obama: Presidential transition law augmented to insert pandemic preparednessPublic Law 114-136 to change presidential transition law permitting insertion of pandemic construct [13 Jan 17 during presidential transition meetings]
SOURCE: https://politicalmoonshine.com/2020/03/17/did-obama-pass-a-law-and-set-up-president-trump-for-a-global-viral-pandemic-construct-smoking-gun/

Pandemic construct inserted
Most important date in contemporary US historyFlynn/Russia story leaked followed by presidential transition meetings – EO leveraged & construct inserted into Trump Administration by Obama’s transition team
SOURCE: https://politicalmoonshine.com/2021/09/03/flatten-the-curve-forever/

To further understand this timeline relative to COVID-19 as a construct for enterprise fraud and to examine continuity of government considerations, consider these graphics.
COVID-19 is a mechanism; a tool; a lever; and its purpose is in part to transition the U.S. into Marxist communism where the construction of the COVID-19 “pandemic” provides the lanes to extra-constitutional governance that presents and functions as medical tyranny. As a construct of enterprise fraud, fit COVID-19 into this generational plan:

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Transition is mentioned in this recent article too (I haven’t read it yet) so he may be reiterating what happened in 2016-17 to what is anticipated to happen in 2024-25…

https://politicalmoonshine.com/2024/12/13/presidential-transition-mental-gymnastics-and-the-economic-trap-being-set-for-the-incoming-trump-administration/

Gail Combs

I am going cross-eyed looking at the Stafford Act. it is about 200 pages.

I found this:

Sec. 204. Interagency Task Force (42 U.S.C. 5134)
(a) In general – The President shall establish a Federal interagency task force for the purpose of coordinating the implementation of predisaster hazard mitigation programs administered by the Federal Government.

(b) Chairperson – The Administrator of [FEMA] shall serve as the chairperson of the task force.
(c) Membership – The membership of the task force shall include representatives of
(1) relevant Federal agencies;
(2) State and local government organizations (including Indian tribes); and
(3) the American Red Cross.

Sec. 303. Emergency Support and Response Teams (42 U.S.C. 5144)
(a) Emergency Support Teams – The President shall form emergency support teams of Federal personnel to be deployed in an area affected by a major disaster or emergency…

Personnel – The President, acting through the Administrator, shall ensure that the Federal emergency response teams consist of adequate numbers of properly planned, organized, equipped, trained, and exercised personnel to achieve the established target capability levels. Each emergency response team shall work in coordination with State and local officials and onsite personnel associated with a particular incident.

(c) Administrator (1) In General—The Administrator shall be appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate. (2) Qualifications—The Administrator shall be appointed from among individuals who have— (A) a demonstrated ability in and knowledge of emergency management and homeland security; and (B) not less than 5 years of executive leadership and management experience in the public or private sector…

….

 (3) Reporting—The Administrator shall report to the Secretary, without being required to report through any other official of the Department. (4) Principal advisor on emergency management— (A) In General—The Administrator is the principal advisor to the President, the Homeland Security Council, and the Secretary for all matters relating to emergency management in the United States. (B) Advice and Recommendations— (i) In general—In presenting advice with respect to any matter to the President, the Homeland Security Council, or the Secretary, the Administrator shall, as the Administrator considers appropriate, inform the President, the Homeland Security Council, or the Secretary, as the case may be, of the range of emergency preparedness, protection, response, recovery, and mitigation options with respect to that matter.

….

§315. Functions transferred
(a) In general—Except as provided in subsection
(b), there are transferred to the Agency the following:
(1) All functions of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, including existing responsibilities for emergency alert systems and continuity of operations and continuity of government plans and programs as constituted on June 1, 2006, including all of its personnel, assets, components, authorities, grant programs, and liabilities, and including the functions of the Under Secretary for Federal Emergency Management relating thereto.
(2) The Directorate of Preparedness, as constituted on June 1, 2006…

(b) Exceptions—The following within the Preparedness Directorate shall not be transferred:
(1) The Office of Infrastructure Protection.
(2) The National Communications System.
(3) The National Cybersecurity Division.
(4) The Office of the Chief Medical Officer

….

FINALLY on page 110

§321e. Chief Medical Officer
(a) In general—There is in the Department a Chief Medical Officer, who shall be appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate.
(b) Qualifications—The individual appointed as Chief Medical Officer shall possess a demonstrated ability in and knowledge of medicine and public health.
(c) Responsibilities—The Chief Medical Officer shall have the primary responsibility within the Department for medical issues related to natural disasters, acts of terrorism, and other  
(1) serving as the principal advisor to the Secretary and the Administrator on medical and public health issues;
(2) coordinating the biodefense activities of the Department; (3) ensuring internal and external coordination of all medical preparedness and response activities of the Department, including training, exercises, and equipment support….
.
.
§321g. Conduct of certain public health-related activities
(a) In general—With respect to all public health-related activities to improve State, local, and hospital preparedness and response to chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear and other emerging terrorist threats carried out by the Department of Health and Human Services (including the Public Health Service), the Secretary of Health and Human Services shall set priorities and preparedness goals and further develop a coordinated strategy for such activities in collaboration with the Secretary.
(b) Evaluation of progress—In carrying out subsection
(a), the Secretary of Health and Human Services shall collaborate with the Secretary in developing specific benchmarks and outcome measurements for evaluating progress toward achieving the priorities and goals described in such subsection…

https://www.fema.gov/sites/default/files/2020-03/stafford-act_2019.pdf

Gail Combs

There are a heck of a lot of “the president SHALL” type orders from Congress in that act.

Valerie Curren

Here are finds related to that Stafford Act from that Political Moonshine article I linked above:

23 November1988Stafford Act signed into lawStafford Act compels president to defer to “experts” if emergency exceeds scope of presidential competence. Transfers authority to criminal enterprise.
SOURCE: https://www.fema.gov/disaster/stafford-act

May2019Stafford Act AmendedStafford Act is amended respective to authorities
SOURCE: https://www.fema.gov/sites/default/files/2020-03/stafford-act_2019.pdf

13 March2020U.S. Pandemic Declaration / Title II Executive Authority
China assumes proxy control of the US government“Presidential competence” drawn into conflict [Stafford Act] causing compulsory deference to the Criminal Enterprise [The Task Force, RICO] & Trump’s Title II Executive authority is usurped by the Enterprise.; China is now in proxy control of the US federal government in 8 essential domains [see COG slides at bottom of timeline].
SOURCE: https://politicalmoonshine.com/2020/03/13/who-declares-covid-19-a-pandemic-and-why-that-is-monumentally-critical/
SOURCE: https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20210318/covid-19-emergency-declaration

pgroup2

Whoa. Are you trying to foster a food fight?

Aubergine

No, I am merely stating the truth as I believe it to be. I try not to write things just to instigate trouble, although it must seem sometimes that I do.

Valerie Curren

I was just talking about this with my daughter tonight. I wonder if that 25th Amendment sword of Damocles is still in place via Presidential Transition “protocols” as has been painstakingly outlined at Political Moonshine?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

And by the way – thank you again for taking up this battle! Health Friday has been a wonderful thing for this site!

Valerie Curren

Amen!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

24 days, 10 hours, 37 minutes until our Once and Future President, Donald Trump, is restored to his Rightful Office which was stolen from him, and becomes president of the greatest nation on the globe.

Not that I’m counting, mind you.

TheseTruths

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

LOL at the toy sippy cup and teleprompter.

Gail Combs

Note the blue and white tree ornament (Think Epstein Island as well as D-Rats) and the Red balls…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yeah I caught the ornaments.

Though I think that’s just the way the Dem logo looks.

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Gail Combs

From yesterday, the colors have specific meaning.

TheseTruths

Gunther Eagleman:

BREAKING: Kevin O’Leary is headed to Mar-a-Lago to discuss Canada’s annexation!

“At least half of Canadians are interested. I’m gonna go to Mar-a-Lago and convince Trump myself.”

https://twitter.com/GuntherEagleman/status/1872421915975168438

I have no idea how this could be done. 🤷

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA
  1. Forcible conquest.
  2. Some of the provinces secede and apply to become states.
  • Not sure they’re allowed to secede
  • If they aren’t we’d permanently piss Canada off by helping them to secede.
  1. Canada decides aw to hell with it and dissolves the “dominion” and provinces can then freely join the US.
cthulhu

A large part of the problem (for both nations) is that some provinces are like “northern North Dakota” and would fit in well (e.g. Alberta, Saskatchewan)….while others are “new New England” and might as well be New York (e.g. Ontario); one has the same mental condition as California, Oregon, and Washington (BC); and one is just psychotic (Quebec). I’m not sure we would even want the latter three.

GA/FL

Tell the mental ones – either repent or stay mired and sink in the stinking sewage of your moral, mental, ethical, economic sins.

Gail Combs

Make it by province.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I would not want Quebec at all, no matter what their politics.

The others could be decent US states except for their politics.

Gail Combs

Trade Vermont to Quebec for the rest of the provinces?

I was originally thinking all of New England.

Cuppa Covfefe

Trade Quebec to Denmark for Greenland and a daft choice to be named later 😆

Just think of the Francophones having to learn Danish 😆  😈  🙀 

pgroup2

LoL at daft. Sure sums it all up.

Valerie Curren

Priceless!!!

pgroup2

Well, they could be designated Penal Provinces and we’d send our Marxists there. Exit visas would be extremely hard to get.

Gail Combs

I LIKE!   :wpds_cool: 

Aubergine

And the King of England would have to agree.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

If they can successfully turn America socialist by having it annex Canada, I’m sure the cabal will tell their puppet king to agree!

kalbokalbs

Or not.

It wouldn’t be the first time, America, the terrorists, Patriots, told the king to fuck off.

Canada would need to do the same.

The entire King thing, royal family thing, whatever they call Canada, Australia, and New Zealand being subjects or something to England is F U B A R.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Many other countries in the Commonwealth have actually converted to being Republics. In fact Prince (at the time) Charles got to go to Barbados and see them fire his mother, swearing in their first president in 2021.

Robert Baker

It is hard for me to imagine what a Canadian Civil War would look like. It has never been on my list of militarily aggressive nations.

cthulhu

Might want to ask the Nazis about that — Canadian losses were about 10% of US losses, despite having less than 10% of the population.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

They did a LOT particularly with air power.

Robert Baker

I did not say that Canadians were less brave but that the nation was less likely to start a war, like, say, the US or France.

Cuppa Covfefe

But…but….but….but…. they’re so strong and all 😆

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scott467

Maybe DJT is trying to force Princess Justine and England to admit that Canadia is a subject nation of England, so America can’t annex them, and they can’t just defect to America.

Look at the swearing in ceremony (we have discussed it hear several times over the years), it’s the same for Canada, Australia and New Zealand, and probably others.

It’s practically a boot-licking oath to the ‘Queen of Canada’, where the ‘elected’ leader swears his undying loyalty to the king or queen of England.

And it’s definitely not a quaint ‘tradition’, it’s very specific and legalistic, with nothing heartwarming about it.

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pgroup2

I would assume that it would follow the Alaska method.

cthulhu

We have a bunch of potential methods — the Alaska method, the Hawaii method, the Texas method, the California method, the Louisiana method, the Florida method….

Cuppa Covfefe

And, knowing Justintime Truedeaux’s dramatic background, the Alexander “method” (technique)…..

TheseTruths

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL!!!

Gail Combs

And I just read that Antarctic Ice is up 17% — That is in a polar desert BTW.

pgroup2

I just use regular ice in my drinks. Am I missing out on something?

  :wpds_lol: 

Cuppa Covfefe

Antarctic ice is colder…. honest…. Greta says so 😆
or was that the Goreacle…

Cuppa Covfefe

And the birdcage-liner media over here are quoting (inventing) the inverse figures about Greenland’s ice….. Commies gotta commie…

pgroup2

Good old algore looks like he needs more than his chakhra(sp?) released.

He needs a warm blanket, too.

Cuppa Covfefe

His brain needs being released too… it’s not doing anything now…

TheseTruths

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TradeBait2

Yup – simple as that.

The next American Stories series will be dealing with personal beliefs, angles and commitment of some of the founding fathers starting with the Declaration of Independence. The first part should roll out next week.

pgroup2

Well, rolling out likely does less damage than being dropped.

[hee hee]

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Very cool! Looking forward to it! 🇺🇸

pgroup2

Poor trigger finger discipline.  😕 

TheseTruths

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TheseTruths

NEW: Extensive COVID-19 Origins Cover-Up Revealed, and the Biden Admin Was Pulling the Strings

It’s long been known, at least through basic intuition, that U.S. government officials went to great lengths to cover up the origins of the COVID-19 virus. Former NIAID Director Anthony Fauci infamously spent years publicly deflecting blame from China. Emails would later emerge showing Wuhan Institute of Virology funder Peter Daszak had emailed Fauci to thank him for dismissing the lab leak theory.

If you aren’t familiar with the entire saga, which is long and winding, be sure to check out Scott Hounsell’s extensive reporting on the matter. The level of corruption will blow your mind.

SEE: Wuhan Lab Funder Peter Daszak Emailed Fauci, Thanked Him for Dismissing the Lab Leak Theory

But while we’ve known about the direct involvement of Fauci and others, just how deep did the Biden administration’s obsession with protecting the Chinese go? A new report is shedding some light on that question, and the answers are astonishing. 

That link is to a Wall Street Journal report that is behind a paywall. In the article I linked at the top of this comment there are a lot more details, including reporting by Jerry Dunleavy IV, which begins with:

New revelations by WSJ on how Biden-Harris Admin covered up COVID-19’s origins, including spy leaders excluding the FBI (at the time allegedly the only U.S. intel agency that had assessed Covid likely came from a Wuhan lab) from the 2021 briefing of Biden. But that’s not all…

Conclusion:

As to Joe Biden himself, there’s a certain level of deniability that appears to have been built in. As far as we know publicly, he was bombarded with intelligence heads promoting the natural origins theory. Yet, given the Biden family’s extensive ties to China, including monetarily, it doesn’t take much imagination to assume that the president wasn’t as oblivious as he wanted the public to believe. This is a massive cover-up, and it feels like the surface has just been scratched. The incoming Donald Trump administration needs to dig much deeper into this issue.

TheseTruths

I’m guessing this is the WSJ article referenced by Wolf, above:

However, a closer look at the WSJ article reveals that it is far worse than that. This isn’t merely an alibi piece to cover up the WSJ’s failure to report the truth over the past five years. Rather, it is a propaganda piece designed to further advance the cover-up. All the major players—Fauci, Andersen, and especially Baric—are portrayed as innocent bystanders rather than as key figures who were instrumental in the entire disaster. Blame for the origin cover up, if any, is attributed to infighting among intelligence agencies.

The bottom line still stands: “The incoming Donald Trump administration needs to dig much deeper into this issue.”

pgroup2
TheseTruths

Thank you.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Trumpet down the paywalls!

cthulhu

Sadly on point, Sarah is getting rumors of a plague rollout —

https://accordingtohoyt.com/2024/12/26/sometimes-nothing-is-the-best-you-can-do/

GA/FL

Bird Flu seems to be the next chimeric engineered virus to be released by the murderous cold-blooded inhumane criminal politicized ‘science’ ‘community’

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GA/FL

STOCK UP ON HCQ – IVERMECTIN – D3, ETC. AND BUILD UP YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM WITH GOOD NUTRITION, FRESH AIR, EXERCISE, PRAYER, WORSHIP, FELLOWSHIP – ASAP – AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE!

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cthulhu

Any update regarding Sally Q?

Valerie Curren

Amen!

kalbokalbs

Seems we’ve been on this hamster wheel for several years. Incoming plandemic.

As for me. I’m done with the plandemic hamster wheel…

…Oh No, Another Plandemic…In January. January is in four days…. (NBFD..)

100% I need information whatever is out there, bug wise. How to deal with it.

Seemingly it always comes back to, It Is The Flu.

Admittedly not the sharpest tool in the shed, I’ve settled on…

  • Daily, vitamins, supplements, exercise, eat reasonable…
  • Once a week, or when I feel something is off, pop Ivermectin. Prevention.
  • Stock Ivermectin and other goodies. (Do NOT put off getting Ivermectin.)
  • On hand Oxymeter (~$10), BP monitor, thermometer…
  • Reasonable readiness. Food, water, alternate heating and cooking source(s).
pgroup2

A T-shirt that says, if you’re wearing a mask, you’re sick so stay away from me!

Gail Combs

You forgot to mention MENTALLY sick

pgroup2

Let them figure it out.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Totally with you. I refuse to enter the “it’s a plague! oh, noes!” game until there are bodies lying on MY street that I see with my OWN lying eyes.

Gail Combs

3 on my street from Covid. (Likely the Clot shot) Only one was elderly.

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cthulhu

Just as a side note, it appears that Rob Squad Reactions has blown up.

Amber doesn’t go into too many details, but everyone’s primary concern should be that the children are safe and sheltered from any drama while their parents arrange a way to move forward.

They seem like good kids (Jay and Amber) and I hope that everything works out for them.

kalbokalbs

Pardon my ignorance here. Who or what is,  Rob Squad Reactions?

cthulhu

I forget whether it was Scott or I who discovered them first. It’s a young couple that listens to classic pop/rock/prog music for their first time and talks about it. Here’s an example —

They’ve been quite successful — over half a million subscribers. From their comments, many of their subscribers are over well over 50 and are tickled by these youngsters enjoying the music we know so well.

pgroup2

No pardons for ignorance! Only for mental illness.

/s

barkerjim

Thank you once again, Pavaca!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Amen!!!

barkerjim
Gail Combs

Some of the meat from that article:
[QUOTE]

“…They say they want to teach children to “distinguish scientific evidence from misinformation” except that they don’t appear to know what scientific evidence is, or what science is either. If they did, they’d talk about the dangers of consensus and computer models, and the importance of observations.

Let’s have a small revolution in logic and reasoning instead:

Andreas Schleicher, the OECD’s director of education, describes the refreshed science framework as a “small revolution” addressing students’ capacity to distinguish scientific evidence from misinformation in the context of the “biggest challenge of our times – our environment”.

Look out, a foreign committee influenced by multinational corporate powers wants to provide a “non-political space” for your children.

Amelia Pearson, at the Monash climate change communication research hub, says there have been more “climate change dot points” added to the curriculum, but mainly in subjects such as science and geography.

“Climate change impacts every area of society and our lives,” she says. “So it’s really important that people who might not engage, particularly with [science, technology, engineering, maths], still have the opportunity to learn about these different challenges.”

Education isn’t about persuading children to think a certain way, she says, but providing a non-political space to understand the issues and make up their own minds.

Aren’t our schools supposed to be “non-political spaces”?

I say we survey the OECD instead to see if they know what science is — then cut off their funding when they fail….”

[UNQUOTE]

….

I would skip the survey and go straight to de-funding. AND I am fairly sure that is what POTUS Trump will do.

Cuppa Covfefe

OECD are globalist (Gore-Bullist?) WEFfenSS shills… pushing the Europa dream of a renewed unHoly Roman Empire… a bunch of total rotters…

pat frederick

what would a foreign energy firm get from this investment? do they sell the “energy” generated to the local companies?
it’s going to be a huge mess to clean up. I sincerely hope they do not try to bury the concrete bases–they should be removed as well.

kalbokalbs

Likely USG funded this “investment.” Which I view wind energy as many things, but not investment grade.

Foreign energy firm is likely a scam, as are domestic pushers of green energy.

Gail Combs

In general they suck up government money, pay CEOs top dollar, pump and dump the stock then bankrupt, leaving the locals to clean up the mess and the little investor skinned.

I would not be at ALL surprised to see this happen in this case…. OOOooops we are bankrupt, sorry.

Brave and Free
barkerjim
TheseTruths

The article:

There’s lots of scandal-mongering and indignation about the chair of the House Appropriations Committee, Texas Republican Kay Granger, who had missed every vote in the House since July and was recently discovered to be in an assisted living facility for dementia patients. To be sure, our congressional leadership is starting to resemble the old Soviet Politburo for its decrepitude:

However, everyone is missing a key point. The fact that almost no one seems to have missed Granger ought to tell us just how unimportant committee chairs are in the House these days. Once upon a time if a chair of a key fiscal committee was missing for that long a time, it would not only get noticed, but might cause a crisis in passing a budget. Because so much of budgeting has been concentrated in the leadership offices of both the House and Senate, and then rolled into the sudden, emergency year-end “continuing resolutions,” the Granger absence shows how badly Congress’s traditional functions have atrophied. It’s almost as if we could send nearly every House member home and let the leadership just run everything. (Actually, that is just what Speaker Nancy Pelosi did during Covid. Every House member “worked” from home. And also voted from home.) But the fact that so much congressional power has been concentrated in the handful of leadership offices is another parallel to the old Soviet Politburo besides the lengthening age of members.

TheseTruths

That lists so many studies and various benefits of DMSO that it makes me want to use it.

pat frederick

another woman set on fire
FTA
Downey has been transferred to a local burn facility, where she continues to fight for her life in critical but stable condition, according to WRAL News. Almost three-quarters of her body is burned to some degree. Her family has established a GoFundMe site to pay for medical costs that will include surgery, additional treatment and rehabilitation. 
Harnett County Sheriff Wayne Coats said the incident was the most horrific crime his police unit has ever had to deal with. “It’s just a nightmare for this family,” he said, observing that he hasn’t a clue what the motive for the attack might have been. “It could have been domestic-related,” he said. “It could have been a gang initiation. We’re mystified by what’s happened.” 
https://thepostmillennial.com/three-suspects-pour-gasoline-on-north-carolina-woman-set-her-on-fire-with-lit-cigarette-police

Gail Combs

If she is at Central Carolina Hospital in Sanford, NC, her chances of surviving are very very low.

I wouldn’t take a sick rat to that hospital and neither would anyone else I know.

Quality of Care – Mortality Rate

How well does Central Carolina Hospital save lives? 11% worse than the national average, based on the overall mortality rate for critical illnesses…

Overall Patient Rating: BELOW AVERAGE

COMMENT:

Jan 03, 2017, 1:22 AM

Central Carolina Hospital: “Awful service. Staff would not give wait time or any information when you are going to be seen. ” – Jackie

Another site ranks it as below average

And this is by employees

Pay was low for my experience.” (in 4 reviews)

“Horrible, heartless management.” (in 3 reviews)

Pay is insulting and hospital is filthy

Certified pharmacy technician

Former employee, more than 1 year

pgroup2

I do not believe she was set afire with a lit cigarette. This false fact has persisted ever since the movie The Birds came out.

The article says there are no witnesses yet the sheriff does not like smoking so he made up an essential fact. Or the victim assumed that was what happened.

Gail Combs

The Propensity of Lit Cigarettes to Ignite Gasoline Vapors

ABSTRACT

Fire investigators regularly evaluate available fuels and potential ignition sources to determine the cause of a fire. This work examined the propensity of lit cigarettes to ignite gasoline vapors, expanding on previous work to include a large number of trials and a wide range of test conditions. Experiments were conducted exposing lit cigarettes, both at idle and under draw, to gasoline vapors in various configurations including pools/pans of gasoline, gasoline on textile substrates (clothing), and sprays of gasoline. Five major brands of commercially-manufactured tobacco cigarettes were tested. The experiments conducted for this study consisted of 70 distinct tests involving a total of 723 cigarettes and over 4,500 instances of exposure of a lit cigarette to ignitable concentrations of gasoline vapor in air. 👉There were no instances of the ignition of gasoline vapors from the exposure of those vapors to a lit tobacco cigarette during any of the experiments.

Cuppa Covfefe

Just have to add some supercooled liquid Oxygen to the cigarette, as described by Dave Barry in a hilarious article back in 1995, and done by George Gobel (not the comedian, though this is funny, albeit dangerous)… how to light a charcoal grill REALLY fast 🙂  ⚡  🔥  🌞 

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pgroup2

It’s SHOWTIME!!!!!

pgroup2

ThanQ.

kalbokalbs

Agree. Here is what is see.

“Random”

  • Assaults on people anywhere.
  • Home invasions. The works…rape, murder, robbery, lots of property damage.

Above will become common, unless citizens literally fight back.

  • Personal Awareness AND Readiness to ACT. Defense Mandatory.
duchess01

EACH DAY WE TAKE UP THE OFFENSIVE WEAPON OF THE WORD OF GOD – THE SWORD OF THE SPIRIT – ONE VERSE OPENS THE DOOR TO THE CONTEXT OF THE CHAPTER MESSAGE

Verse of the Day for Friday, December 27, 2024

“The LORD also will be a refuge for the oppressed, a refuge in times of trouble.” 

Psalms 9:9 (KJV)

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Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered !!!


duchess01

WE ARE FIGHTING A SPIRITUAL WAR OF GOOD VERSUS EVIL

PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD

Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ, Amen.

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duchess01

PLEASE PRAY FOR ABUSED, MISSING, AND TRAFFICKED CHILDREN

BE MY VOICE

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JESUS LOVES THE LITTLE CHILDREN

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CHILD NOT CHOICE

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duchess01

PLEASE PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER

MAPA = MAKE AMERICA PRAY AGAIN

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duchess01

JUSTICE FOR ALL

Each day we see the plans of the wicked
We are exposed to the sins committed
We feel helpless to stop them come what may
Subdued and oppressed in every way

Where can we go for reprieve and relief
What can be done to end despair and grief
Man cannot execute justice for all
Only God has the power to enthrall

Without God we can do nothing to change
Circumstances we cannot rearrange
Ah but God can do whatever He pleases
To correct contain refrain as He eases

There are many who’ve invested in guile
For power and money that is their style
Their god is not our God and ne’er will be
For we dare not share in their destiny

We were cheated and defeated by a lie
Since then the enemy sought to defy
Steal our inheritance by any means
Subjugate us to his edicts it seems

No man can save our beloved nation
No matter his expertise or station
If he would humble himself before God
What he can do through Him would be awed

Pray for justice to be equally served
Pray the wicked get what they deserved
Do not repay evil its counterpart
God will mete justice take that to heart

D01: 08/25/2023

para59r
duchess01

Psalm 91. The most powerful prayer from the Bible. God’s protection, healing 
#psalm91 #psalms #prayer

Pray Everyday

https://rumble.com/v57jz8d-psalm-91.the-most-powerful-prayer-from-the-bible.-gods-protection-healing-p.html

Sleep Well with Psalms. Psalm 91, Psalm 121, Psalm 3, Psalm 4, Psalm 139.
#faith #god #psalms

prayeveryday777

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HAVE A VERY BLESSED DAY !!!  ❤️❤️❤️

TradeBait2

You have been all over this and sounding the alarm, PAVACA. I have great gratitude in my heart for your efforts to educate the public.

The recent Thank You, Dr. Fauci movie release on TC used some of the medical research you provided us long ago, although yours is much more thorough. Maybe there is hope that the rest of the world will comprehend they have been duped into committing suicide.

Gail Combs

“…Maybe there is hope that the rest of the world will comprehend they have been duped into committing suicide.”

I certainly hope so!

And it is people like PAVACA that will help it happen.

Brave and Free

The jabbed I know, friends and family, if there’re comprehending what’s been done to them are keeping it to themselves.

kalbokalbs

A couple weeks ago, someone used a word to describe the Jabbed, who have figured out they are immune system is damaged goods.

  • Resigned or resignation.

And, they don’t want to talk about it. Most likely, will Not talk about it.

Gail Combs

Also a bit of embarrassment too. Esp of they were warned and did not take the warnings.

scott467

“And, they don’t want to talk about it. Most likely, will Not talk about it.”

_______________

Anger and rage should trump resignation or embarrassment.

Followed by demands for compensation.

Especially in a nearly total victim-mentality society. Everybody will want to get in line for the big $$$ payouts.

Aubergine

I don’t know how many here are following the “tech bro” vs. “White American worker” Musk/Ramaswamy blowup on X, but I am. It’s about H-1B workers, and it is a HUGE deal right now. People are furious at both men. And they’re correct; Ramaswamy came across as an elitist (which he is; high-caste Indian), and Musk came across as just a prick (he said the whole thing was the biggest demonstration of the Dunning-Kruger Effect he’s ever seen).

Regardless, both of those guys are in DEEP, pissed-off American shit right now. All the good-will I felt for either is gone, that I will tell you. Both are tone-deaf; neither are America-first.

Here is the best summary of the situation I have found so far:

https://x.com/martianwyrdlord/status/1872503957681012869

John Carter

@martianwyrdlord

The Great Christmas H1B War of 2024 is the funniest thing that’s happened on X in a long time. At the precise moment that the word “remigration” is on everyone’s lips, the tech CEOs decide it’s the perfect time to try and muster support for the H1B program, thereby running face first into a hard wall of extremely hostile public sentiment. Knocked on the floor, a halo of confused little dollar signs dancing around their concussed heads, they sit up, blink, and try to explain that actually they are very smart, and the chuds, who are not smart, just don’t understand tech hiring and the strategic necessity of procuring elite human capital. The chuds in fact understand all of this perfectly well, but don’t care. To them this isn’t an economic question. It’s a matter of their homes being looted and invaded for generations, which they are determined to put a stop to. The ones who don’t understand – because “homeland” is not something you can quantify on a spreadsheet and use as training data – are the tech CEOs, who therefore cluelessly carry on debating the question on grounds that are wholly irrelevant to the concerns of people who could not care less about the bottom lines of tech CEOs, and are not actually interested in a debate, because one does not debate the existence of one’s homeland. While this is happening, the “elite human capital” the tech CEOs want to keep importing decide it’s the ideal opportunity to boast about how they are in fact replacing the chuds, this is revenge for the Raj, white girls love Indian cock, etc. etc., thereby spraying gasoline on an already raging dumpster fire. This is extremely unhelpful to the tech CEOs, but their elite human capital can’t help themselves, because they come from a culture in which one is either the abused (servile, sycophantic, bootlicking) or the abuser (tyrannical, sadistic), and the small taste of success and power the tech CEOs have provided them – their first taste of this sweet, intoxicating nectar in several centuries – has flipped a switch in their collective brains to ‘abuser’, and they are rampaging all across the Internet, blithely unconcerned by the fatal damage their behavior is doing to both their national brand and the discursive influence of the only people who are keeping their migration pipeline open. It’s hard to imagine a more perfect clusterfuck.

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Deplorable Patriot

Yes, but it sparked one heck of a hearty debate. A lot of information came out along with personal stories of people being rejected for not being a foreigner.

Bottom line is that foreign workers are cheaper and don’t push back to employers. Americans will.

Aubergine

It is my personal belief that it has damaged both Musk and Ramaswamy greatly. We will see if it is beyond repair.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The fact is, Musk and Vivek live in the “global sci-tech community” where all that stuff they say seems true to them – and in some ways it actually is. J.D. Vance and his wife are the perfect examples. What most don’t realize is that Trump and his wife are, too. Eastern Europeans look more like the rest of “native” Americans, but many of the smarter and more talented ones (like Melania) slide in at the high end of American society – yes – with hard work and skills – but that is exactly what the top end sees, and why they don’t see the really BAD, CHEAP, MOTEL 6 programmers brought in like slaves on boats, or receiving data overseas, to replace uppity colonists. I’m sure that Musk and Vivek hire the cream of the crop – and that cream solves problems be bringing in or calling out to farms of super-cheap, bad, lying, “tell them what they want to hear” programmers.

Globalization has a very wet, smelly underside. The elite pretend that it doesn’t exist by hiring people who use that underside and deny its existence.

I have seen how outsourcing works – exactly like CONTRACT MURDER. People who don’t want to know the details, use money to get the details out of their own lives, by hiring people with even less scruples.

This won’t be too damaging, IMO. Demmunists will pretend it is, but this is some of the super-healthy discussion that needed to happen, and which THEY DENIED, just like the country-club Republicans.

Deplorable Patriot

More talented ones (like Melania) slide in at the high end of American society – yes – with hard work and skills 

And in her case, looks and a body the vast majority of us could never attain.

No green eyes, just reality.

pgroup2

I don’t think she’s all that pretty but she is one of the classiest ladies I’ve ever seen.

Plus she doesn’t appear to have even a smidge of stupid.

Aubergine

Ok.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OTOH, if there is no LEARNING by Musk and Vivek – there will be damage.

Forgiveness is what our side does. But we are also very perceptive for lessons learned, and if there are no lessons learned…… damage will ensue with each confrontation on this issue.

Aubergine

I agree. Yes. They must learn.

Gail Combs

Come to think of it, this fight is very healthy because it makes it clear that Americans DO NOT WANT FOREIGN WORKERS TAKING THEIR JOBS!

The internet fracas is a BIG RED FLAG going up telling Senators and Congressman that it is not just illegals who are consider personae non gratae by a lot of Americans.

Hopefully that means we have a major halt to the influx of foreigners.

Cuppa Covfefe

One thing that I hope the debate does is point out the TOTAL and UTTER failure of the US school system (“thanks” to Dewey, Mann, Rockefeller, and “Columbia Teachers College”).

Mediocrity, participation trophies, pass-fail versus standard grading, lowering standards to increase number of students passing, etc.

The direction the debate is currently taking is ignoring the real problems and sounds, quite frankly, like the left are fanning the flames (yet again) to make us look stupid…

“Equal Opportunity” has only exacerbated these problems and delayed (or even eliminated) any chance of solving them.

We DO have a shortage of absolute top-flight scientists and engineers. And that needs to change. But we need to get top talent from somewhere and NOT RED China…

Conflating uncontrolled illegal immigration with strictly-controlled LEGAL immigration of needed talent in critical (but unstaffed) fields doesn’t do anything to solve any problems…..

[Back in the day Germany had extremely strong immigration controls. My company moved me to Germany in the early 1980s, and they had to prove my competence to the effect that there was no one in Germany, nor inside of HP (our computer vendor) or out, who could do my job as needed. A US company, so some of the hurdles weren’t there, but it took a mountain of paperwork nonetheless. It was a good company, at the forefront of their technology areas (they invested in 3D printing and research thereof, although the computing power to drive it wasn’t yet available, but foreseeable, for example)… too bad they were a victim of the heuschrecken of KK&R…]….

singingsoul1

Arrogance self importance got them.

Aubergine

Yes, I agree entirely.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

PRIDE.

singingsoul1

They achieved the American dream with American labor and they believe they did it on their own.

Aubergine

Goes before destruction. They must learn.

pat frederick

both men are arguing for America first not AMERICANS first. that sounds tone deaf to me.
like buying a foreign soccer team to play for your country in the Olympics.

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Aubergine

YES!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Some excellent truth in what you just said!

TheseTruths

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singingsoul1

Vivek forgot he was educated in Catholic American schools not Indian schools.
His ego is to be and will be his downfall.

Deplorable Patriot

St. Xavier in Cinncinati is a Jesuit school, and I think it is still all boys. He was valedictorian. That’s a whole different animal than most Catholic high schools.

singingsoul1

Oh yes I remember thanks.
My kids went to St Louis University was very good education and served them well.
Indian culture emphasizes memorization.

kalbokalbs

How so?

Quite the broad statement, with zero foundation.

Deplorable Patriot

We have two all boys Jesuit high schools here. Two of my brothers attended one. Trust me. I know what they produce. One of the schools here has the largest insular support group/fraternity in town.

Jesuit institutions carry a certain prestige even with non-Catholics. Why? They used to be – and some still are – quite rigorous. It’s part of the culture, actually.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

That is such an awesome description of the “good trouble” that is now showing just how AWESOME free speech actually is.

BTW, RE the Dunning-Kruger effect – which was boosted by Brick Suit – to which Musk approvingly responded – and to which I then CORRECTED BOTH (although gently) about the DK effect being a FALLACY.

Good times!

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Elon Musk

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@elonmusk
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The immigration hot-button topic is the biggest DKE situation I’ve ever seen 😂

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Brick Suit

@Brick_Suit
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Dunning-Kruger effect has entered the chat.

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Elon Musk

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@elonmusk
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*bullseye* 😂

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Wolf Moon

@WOLFM00N

Dunning-Kruger effect has left the chat.

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1870648643104940032/-c48ROYS?format=jpg&name=small

The Dunning-Kruger Effect is Autocorrelation – Economics from the Top Down

From economicsfromthetopdown.com

10:18 PM · Dec 26, 2024

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I felt a bit bad about correcting Elon – almost nobody knows about the DKE being a statistical mistake. The fake news media has totally downplayed it.

gil00

So theyre boasting of their intellect and use this graph, only to not know its not true? Thats hilarious. Really. Smartest guys innthe room…… thatd be Wolf tyvm.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL!

The fact is, the lying media – which has HIDDEN THE TRUTH about the fallacy of the Dunning-Kruger effect (because it LIKES the alleged effect) – has assaulted all of us – Musk, Vivek, and Wolf – and only I was lucky enough to stumble on the article about it having been disproved.

gil00

Its funny in the sense of people memorizing quotes to sound deeply intellectual, but then dont have an understanding of say the economics behind what they quote, until someone that DOES know puts them to shame.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

God schools us all (where God can be taken very broadly – even down to Sagan levels).

We think we know things – but most of what we know is repetition of information that others discovered or observed, and even they didn’t really “know” – they just observed and told others what they observed and thought.

As a scientist, I seek to earnestly retain some part of me that thinks the autocorrelation interpretation could be wrong or irrelevant – that there COULD still be some validity to the Dunning-Kruger effect. I will always be ready to walk back the idea that it is a fallacy, if a better explanation of its validity arises.

barkerjim

I have worked with many people that actually believed that they KNEW, because they had read the manual.

pgroup2

That’s a great way to improve society – get everyone to read the manual BEFORE pontificating on anything.

Valerie Curren

Not if it’s written by non-English speakers then (badly?) translated into English. Some stuff out of China or Korea is epically hilarious & makes little to no sense!

Cuppa Covfefe
Valerie Curren

TY 😉

Gail Combs

We have had kids tell us they know how to ride because they saw it on TV. 🙄

pgroup2

The problem is that your ponies don’t watch TV.

Gail Combs

Are you SURE?

My horse used to look in the window and sleep right outside the bedroom. She would follow me around the outside of the house as I moved around the inside..

(I still miss her. 😥)

Valerie Curren

Brilliant summation–TY!

TheseTruths

I accept that DKE is autocorrelation, but I have also experienced people thinking and asserting that they are skilled in an area when their abilities are woefully inadequate. That doesn’t prove DKE because of all the other factors, but it happens fairly frequently. Some people don’t know that they don’t know, and of course they don’t know what they don’t know.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

EXACTLY! This is why the DKE seems like common sense – because even if it is wrong, it is very close to what we experience in life! The idea that people who don’t know, are likely not to know that they don’t know, is very logical – even mathematically likely.

In fact, I always retain the idea that maybe the idea that it’s autocorrelation is wrong.

Aubergine

I knew about it. Found it here, I think. And I almost left the article about it on X. I didn’t, because I’m just not that confident. I’m SO GLAD you are!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Thanks! And you did see it here. I only left it on X because if Musk or Brick Suit found better info to prove my info wrong, I would gladly accept it.

Gail Combs

For what it is worth, in horse back riding and in caving, I see this:

Beginner knows they know nothing.

Intermediate think they know everything and get out over their skies. School horses HATE intermediates BTW. This is where you see the most accidents.

Advanced KNOW they have a lot more to learn.

TheseTruths

I haven’t been following it because I’m sick of it and want unity within MAGA. I’ve been hoping Trump would step in, possibly privately, and get this settled.

Aubergine

Elon and Vivek need to shut up already.

Elon got out over his skis far enough to start the “Elon is really President” bullshit. Now Vivek has pissed people off so much they want him GONE. Seriously.

I want Trump to call them both in and lay down the law.

kalbokalbs

People need to relax a bit. Give Trump maneuver room. We don’t need to see or hear whatever Trump may say to these guys.

Trump will make H1B visa decisions. Not Vivek or Elon.

It was always a given to me, at some point Vivek and Elon would piss people off.

Separately, don Jr has been a bit mouthy lately. Maybe trump will give him a chill pill.

Zero concerns here.

I’m ready for WINNING. Entire truump Team, including DOGE.

The last thing we need is DOGE collapse before it really gets started.

  • ^^^ THIS IS THE GAOL OF LIBTARDS
  • Collapse DOGE.
  • Deny broadbased wins across the spectrum of America..
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Amen!

Cuppa Covfefe

And by letting the pot get stirred (or perhaps inspiring it), VSGPDJT is exposing yet more of the deep state, and getting issue brought up (crappy education system, lowered standards, EEOC garbage) that would otherwise be ignored…

Musk is getting flamed over here because he said the AfD is the only way for Germany to avoid total failure. And he’s right. But my, oh my, the Uniparty (Linke, Greens, SPD, FDP, CDU/CSU) are frothing mad, indeed threatening to invalidate the upcoming national election and/or censor “X”.
Never mind the fact that Baerbock (our Secretary of State) sent a crew of 20 or so to the USA to help out Kamel-Hoe on the German taxpayer’s dime… so much for interference in foreign elections….

Good to see that both X marks the spot and X stirs the pot.

gil00

I missed the part about indians bragging online. Been really sick so my info is snippets. Hibs in the US then are going on x and doing this by the boatload? I was deeply offended by vivek even supposing the argument that we are not even intelligent enough for the work. India doesnt have functioning sewers and the bathe and cook where they shit, so theres that.

pat frederick

I LOVE YOU! if you could tweet that BACK to Vivek…you would be the DARLING of MAGA!

Valerie Curren

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singingsoul1

My husband worked for 26 years in aerospace. The brilliant engineers came from all walks of life and every state of the US.
My one grandson is a engineer getting his PhD from Purdue and works part time in research at the university. He is second generation American from his fathers site and many generations from mothers. American kids are bright creative just need a little more discipline. The discipline is individual family what is important and temperament of the child.
By the way who fixes Elan’s and Vivek’s electricity or pluming in the house ?
The intelligent plumber and electrician 🙂 My PhD son can fix anything sometimes he wishes he had become an electrician or mechanic he would earn more money.
Elan and Vivek are missing that there are brilliant people out there who decided they do not want to be their slaves 🙂

Aubergine

No kidding! And it was VERY offensive. And so was Elon’s Dunning-Kruger bullshit. They both need to take a seat, in my opinion.

singingsoul1

My brother was a Missionary for many years in India education is brutal for kids. They do not care how many are damaged in the process. We care for our kids mental and spiritual well being. Vivek and Elan show they did not have a balanced education.
Anyone can learn to memorize but internalizing and grow from it are two different things.

Gail Combs

The problem is Americans were FORCED to TRAIN their CHEAPER FOREIGN REPLACEMENTS. EM Smith (Chiefio) was one such casualty.

2009 — Untold Stories: The American Workers Replaced by the H-1B Visa ProgramEleven Americans explain how Big Tech’s cheap foreign labor cost them their livelihoods
Introduction

Immigration reporting tends to rely heavily on stories — stories about illegal immigrant families looking to be reunited, about TPS recipients facing potential deportation, or about legal immigrants working their way toward citizenship. One type of story that receives far less attention from the media, despite its prevalence, is from victims of foreign guest labor — American mothers, fathers, and breadwinners who lost their livelihoods to cheaper foreign replacements and outsourcing.

Big corporations and their lobbyists will often claim that there is a “shortage” of American STEM workers that necessitates an ever-growing number of “high-skill” visas, such as H-1B, L-1, and H4 EAD. This is absolutely false.

In fact, only about a third of natives with college degrees in STEM fields actually hold STEM jobs, meaning there are millions of Americans who could be recruited prior to turning to foreigners.1 Foreign-educated immigrants are also less-skilled than U.S. degree holders when it comes to tests on numeracy, literacy, and computer operations.2 Foreign-educated immigrants with a college or advanced degree perform at about the level of Americans with only a high school diploma, according to test scores.

Congress has established that, each year, 65,000 H-1B visas will be made available for workers with bachelor’s degrees, plus 20,000 more for those with master’s degrees or higher. Certain groups, such as universities and research organizations, are exempt from these caps. In addition to H-1B, there are also L-1 visas for foreigners with managerial or specialized knowledge (no cap), H4 EAD work authorizations for H-1B spouses (no cap), and the Optional Practical Training program, which subsidizes employers who hire F-1 foreign students who graduate from college in America instead of hiring Americans. There are over one million international students in the United States.

Key takeaways:

  • There is no shortage of qualified American STEM workers — most Americans with STEM degrees work in other industries, and American graduates outperform foreign-educated immigrants when tested on a range of skills.
  • The H-1B program has transformed over time from a means to supplement the American tech workforce to a means of cheaply replacing it.
  • Americans who are replaced by H-1B guestworkers are often forced to train their replacements or risk losing their severance.
  • Foreign STEM workers often come from sham universities abroad — particularly in India — and have far fewer specialized skills than they claim.
  • President Trump and members of Congress ought to meet with laid off American STEM workers in order to hear their stories.
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

THANK YOU.

Outsourcing and Inslavery are exactly how globalism puts a KNIFE in America’s back.

Gail Combs

YUP. and you can thank Ted Kennedy, the SOB!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I will just say this now. I have ZERO worries.

If the Democrats want to totally destroy their brand, let them.

Just let them do it.

TheseTruths

It is scare-mongering and wishful thinking. Trump did not “lead an insurrection.” Also, Gail has posted here several times that that section of the 14th Amendment was nullified by Congress in 1898.

https://www.theqtree.com/2024/12/26/dear-maga-the-day-after-christmas-12262024/#comment-1387752

Act of June 6, 1898, ch. 389, 30 Stat. 432

https://govtrackus.s3.amazonaws.com/legislink/pdf/stat/30/STATUTE-30-Pg432b.pdf

Bottom of page 432

June 6,1898 . CHAP. 389.-An Act To remove the disability imposed by section three of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States .

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled That the disability of persons who have engaged in in- by section three of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States heretofore incurred is >>>>hereby removed.<<<<<

Approved, June 6, 1898

kalbokalbs

One of my continues concerns.

I expect Merchan will sentence Trump. No jail. Sentence of any type. Minor fine, whatever.

That shifts the case to guilty, if I understand PG and others.

Does that give Dumrats any leverage against Trump? Hope not.

Legal types for comment, please.

cthulhu

It also would mean that the case could finally be appealed.

kalbokalbs

Appeal on steroids direct to SC. Put an end to this farce.

cthulhu

I believe that was attempted, but the SCOTUS decided it wasn’t yet time.

kalbokalbs

Yes. My intent was.

IF Merchan goes to sentencing, then the conviction can be appealed to SC.

pgroup2

Legally irrelevant. Neither the judiciary nor the legislative branches can alter the requirements specified in the constitution. Note: IMO section 3 of the 14th NEVER applied to POTUS because that position is not a fed official – it is the executive branch.

kalbokalbs

Thanks.

TheseTruths

However, what’s going on here, IMO, is the potential use of “lawfare” in some twisted way…

Yes, of coure it is. There would be no other way to challenge this election. IMO they can’t get away with any of it.

Gail Combs

And that is why we spread the nullification of the 14th far and wide.

pgroup2

The inauguration cannot be postponed. Per the constitution, it must happen on January 20th.

Notice that LBJ was sworn in on Air Force One because America cannot be without a President since the federal executive govt has NO INDEPENDENT AUTHORITY TO EXIST, absent the consent/authority of POTUS.

Not sure where that insane idea of Kackula being POTUS 47 in lieu of DJT came from but I suggest reading the constitution. It clearly specifies the steps to take if the POTUS-elect cannot be sworn in.

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Deplorable Patriot

You think the Constitution is going to stop these people?

pgroup2

Yes I do.

In the hands of patriots, it will be both honored and obeyed.

scott467

Certainly don’t count on the military to defend, uphold or enforce the Constitution.

They’ve been totally AWOL for the last four years.

They will never regain the trust or respect they have thrown away.

Aubergine

I’m with you; bring it, you morons.

para59r

Read this two days ago on yahoo. Same story from the Hill but different title. Went to search for it, seems all the mainstream media sites are running it. Had to go in to my history to drag it up as the comments which now run in excess of 20.k were about 95% decidedly against such foolishness and yahoo is not a bastion of conservatism. Yet they persist. Woe to them if they try. They’ll quick learn from ground level how steamrollers work.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/opinion-congress-power-block-trump-130000458.html

kalbokalbs

D O A.

For libtards. F A F O.

pgroup2

It doesn’t matter. Congress has already removed all of the disqualification penalties of the 14th amendment. Plus, DJT was not criminally charged with insurrection [a pre-requisite for being found to be an insurrectionist].

These people are both losers and stupid beyond belief.

Gail Combs

Here is the evidence:

 Act of June 6, 1898, ch. 389, 30 Stat. 432

https://govtrackus.s3.amazonaws.com/legislink/pdf/stat/30/STATUTE-30-Pg432b.pdf

Bottom of page 432

June 6,1898 . CHAP. 389.-An Act To remove the disability imposed by section three of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States .

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled That the disability of persons who have engaged in in- by section three of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States heretofore incurred is >>>>hereby removed.<<<<<

Approved, June 6, 1898

TradeBait2

That’s why I have not spent two seconds on it. It is that simple. No charges, no conviction, not insurrectionist.

Aubergine

Yes. An ACCUSATION is not a finding of fact, or a guilty verdict. Insurrectionist my ass.

I am so tired of hearing about the masturbatory hallucinations and wet dreams of these fucking retarded leftists. Everybody gets all in an uproar, and freaks out.

Gail Combs

Unfortunately there are a thousand or more still sitting in jail still because of these monsters.

Aubergine

I know.

pgroup2

In one paragraph, the article states that SCOTUS has no role. Then a later paragraph says that the Electoral Count Act has been passed by Congress.

So Congress can pass laws that cannot be reviewed by SCOTUS? Then why would anybody go to the trouble of amending the constitution? I thank God that these two law professors had nothing to do with my legal knowledge.

Gail Combs

Good grief what lying asses.

Evan Davis was editor in chief of the Columbia Law Review and David Schulte was editor in chief of the Yale Law Journal. Both clerked for Justice Potter Stewart. Davis is a New York lawyer who served as president of the New York City Bar, and Schulte is a Chicago investment banker

How those two could clerk for Justice Stewart and turn into such asses is amazing.