Trump/Kim Summit 2.0 + Presser. Overnight Thread.

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New Thread. We all needed a shower after Cohen this afternoon. Let’s refocus our energy. Check out this extraordinary letter from Dennis Rodman. It’s a beautiful letter.
rodman letter
From Flep, here is the schedule for President Trump and the whole team.
PRESIDENT TRUMP’S SCHEDULE
EST/Local Time
8:25 PM (Wed)/8:25 AM Depart JW Marriott Hanoi en route to the Sofitel Legend Metropole Hanoi – Motorcade
8:45 PM (Wed)/8:45 AM Arrive at the Sofitel Legend Metropole Hanoi – Hanoi, Vietnam
9:00 PM (Wed)/9:00 AM Participate in a 1:1 bilateral meeting with the Chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
9:45 PM (Wed)/9:45 AM Participate in an expanded bilateral meeting with the Chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
11:55 PM (Wed)/11:55 AM Participate in a working lunch with the Chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
2:05 AM/2:05 PM Participate in a Joint Agreement Signing Ceremony with the Chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
2:40 AM/2:40 PM Depart Sofitel Legend Metropole Hanoi en route to the JW Marriott Hotel Hanoi – Motorcade
3:00 AM/3:00 PM Arrive at the JW Marriott Hotel Hanoi – Hanoi, Vietnam
3:50 AM/3:50 PM Participate in a press conference [Live Stream]
5:15 AM/5:15 PM Depart JW Marriott Hotel Hanoi en route to Noi Bai International Airport – Motorcade
5:55 AM/5:55 PM Arrive at Noi Bai International Airport – Hanoi, Vietnam
6:05 AM/6:05 PM Depart Hanoi, Vietnam, en route to Joint Base Andrews – Air Force One
Friday March 1 – All times EST
1:10 AM Arrive at Joint Base Andrews
1:20 AM Depart Joint Base Andrews en route to The White House – Marine One
1:30 AM Arrive at The White House – South Lawn

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Sylvia Avery

Hugs to you daughn for setting this up for us!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

And leave FAKE NEWS behind! 😀
WE are the news now!

bflyjesusgrl

Love the Dennis Rodman letter!🤗 Strange, but interesting, that he’s a friend to both POTUS and Kim. God works in mysterious ways, for sure!

Sylvia Avery

No kidding. I couldn’t have plotted that out to save my life. Truth is surely stranger than fiction.

kalbren2r1

The lefty veggies envisioned whirled peas instead while we watch VSGPDJT and Chairman Kim make history!

bflyjesusgrl

Vietnam is 13Hrs ahead of us. Also instead of repeating shows, Fox has continuous Summit coverage all night and morning long.

fleporeblog

GA/FL shared this on my article from earlier this morning.
PRESIDENT TRUMP’S SCHEDULE
EST/Local Time
8:25 PM (Wed)/8:25 AM Depart JW Marriott Hanoi en route to the Sofitel Legend Metropole Hanoi – Motorcade
8:45 PM (Wed)/8:45 AM Arrive at the Sofitel Legend Metropole Hanoi – Hanoi, Vietnam
9:00 PM (Wed)/9:00 AM Participate in a 1:1 bilateral meeting with the Chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
9:45 PM (Wed)/9:45 AM Participate in an expanded bilateral meeting with the Chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
11:55 PM (Wed)/11:55 AM Participate in a working lunch with the Chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
2:05 AM/2:05 PM Participate in a Joint Agreement Signing Ceremony with the Chairman of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea
2:40 AM/2:40 PM Depart Sofitel Legend Metropole Hanoi en route to the JW Marriott Hotel Hanoi – Motorcade
3:00 AM/3:00 PM Arrive at the JW Marriott Hotel Hanoi – Hanoi, Vietnam
3:50 AM/3:50 PM Participate in a press conference [Live Stream]
5:15 AM/5:15 PM Depart JW Marriott Hotel Hanoi en route to Noi Bai International Airport – Motorcade
5:55 AM/5:55 PM Arrive at Noi Bai International Airport – Hanoi, Vietnam
6:05 AM/6:05 PM Depart Hanoi, Vietnam, en route to Joint Base Andrews – Air Force One
Friday March 1 – All times EST
1:10 AM Arrive at Joint Base Andrews
1:20 AM Depart Joint Base Andrews en route to The White House – Marine One
1:30 AM Arrive at The White House – South Lawn

fleporeblog

Never ever have to ask

fleporeblog

Here is a good link if you want to include it

wheatietoo

“…how to establish a socialist-oriented market economy.”
This is what the female news reader said, in the above video…as a ‘goal’ of the meetings.
Um, I don’t think this is a ‘goal’ that our President actually wants, but he sees it as a baby-step towards denuclearization.
And Kim is staying over in Hanoi for a couple of days, after Pres Trump leaves.
The male panelist said that this is presumably so that Kim Jung Un can see how he can create in NK what has been created in VietNam.
Complicated business…for our President.
I’m sure the SoComs here in the US will point to these countries now, as examples of how ‘great’ socialism/communism can be.
Arrgh.

bflyjesusgrl

Didn’t mean to confuse, I apologize, I’ve been biased. 13Hrs if for us peeps (ME ME ME🦋🦋🦋) in CST. 😃 12hrs is for my brothers and sisters in EST. And well, the rest of you, my beloved, can cackylate accordingly🤓

wheatietoo

Heheh…yeah, I’m in CST too.
So it’s 13 Hrs for me.
And just think, for our peeps in Mountain Time and Pacific Time…it’s even more:
MST – 14 Hrs.
PST – 15 Hrs.
Not sure what it is for Hawaii and Alaska…is it 16 or 17 hrs?

bflyjesusgrl

I knew you’d understand Miss Wheatie😃 After today, and this late at night, my brain’s on strike, AK and HI are gonna half to cipher for themselves, LOL.

fleporeblog

Be on the lookout for this to be part of the agreement tomorrow. This is a game changer because it would eliminate any future nuclear weapons while allowing Chairman Kim to keep what he currently has so that trust can continue to be built for future summits and negotiations.
We will most likely agree to the ending of the Korean War signed by China and us with North and South Korea being there to sign as well and some sanction relief after the site is completely cleared and inspected by outside inspectors that mutually agreed upon.

fleporeblog
fleporeblog

The link has our President and Chairman Kim speaking now.

bflyjesusgrl

POTUS and KJU are in their one on one 9am 40minute meeting now. Started approx 8:03p CST.

michaelh

Awesome!

michaelh

Man these ppl and their commentary – the BS is thick with these ppl. “Trump loves doing these summits and the media attention he gets from them” and “This is Trump’s reality TV moment”… “[but] we’ll have to see if there is really any agreement or if this is just stagecraft” GAG. There’s a reason I don’t watch these idiots.

Gail Combs

Seems these nether-ports haven’t acknowledge Trump is now PRESIDENT. 🙄
My dislike for urinalists grows daily.

fleporeblog

Michael the link I shared above is really good with my spin. It is a South Korea feed.

bflyjesusgrl

phoenixRising

totally agree daughn

ladypenquin

Because he isn’t willing to be a sleazebag journalist like the rest of the MSM. He is fairly straightforward, and thus, fair.

Sylvia Avery

And you know, that is all I ask. I don’t need someone to be on PDJT’s side always in his corner always singing his praises. I can get that from others.
What I desperately need, want, desire, is just simple plain old fashioned straight-forward reporting. That is absolutely all I ask. But wow, it is sure hard to find.

ladypenquin

Knoller is an exception. The others are too busy being partisan hacks, and likely never really were genuine journalists. Likely once the Leftist Dem take over was complete in all big corporations, especially the media, they only higher people with appear to have the correct ideology not the correct skills to do fair and unbiased reporting.
The WSJ had a nice front page headline and article noting that Vietnam had “rolled out the red carpet” for North Korean leader – well, they had also rolled out the red carpet for our President, but they won’t ever give POTUS honest reporting.

ladypenquin

make that “hire people” – middle of the night typing.

bflyjesusgrl

bflyjesusgrl

He gets no love because he works for CBS and he doesn’t spread biased Fake News like his compadres. It benefits him. The AP and Reuter’s guys that asked Cohen questions today have been whining all over Twitter about getting kicked out of the dinner, but there Knoller is in attendance, with the scoop, Rewarded for his journalistic integrity.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Oh, I love this! OUT LIKE CHUMPS.

phoenixRising

rules with regard to NO domestic questions during photo ops and meetings with foreign dignitaries were not ignored until the Trump Administration. It’s more in your face disrespect indicating that they don’t acknowledge him as president.
Those that break the rules ought to be relieved of their press badges… missing opportunity to cover dinner is small consequences.

bflyjesusgrl

It’s more than dinner, they’re banned from the pool coverage. Per Sarah Sanders, “It was down sized due to the sensitivity of the issues”. The idiots are completely unaware. The Asians DO NOT tolerate disrespect!! Not one bit. Saw a comment earlier that if someone had done that in China, they’d remove them and kill them. Don’t know if that’s true, but I’m sure the consequences would be very extreme.

Gail Combs

If the disrespect was to the Chairman for Life? Yes, I think they would either end up dead or wishing they were.

Sylvia Avery

Well, look what happened to that horrible Jorge Ramos. He was disrespectful or something to Maduro so Maduro confiscated his films and “detained” him.
You’d think they’d learn the world is not their oyster.

ladypenquin

Rucker is complaining, and the replies make it sound like they’re all brainwashed and braindead. The media is used to being in control in this country and can’t stand it when they’re slapped down in a foreign country.

bflyjesusgrl

9:36pm CST, POTUS and Kim emerge from meeting, take a short garden walk, and gather their teams for the next meeting.

bflyjesusgrl

phoenixRising

fleporeblog

Thought I drop this here because you know how I feel about Governor DeSantis! This man will be our 46th President in 2025 and he will absolutely carry the legacy of PDJT forward. He understands and values TRUMPISM!
https://twitter.com/shepmjs/status/1100936897579241473?s=21

Marica
Marica
bflyjesusgrl

Love that Laura Ingraham played a montage of MSM and Dem clips when they were freaking out over Fire and Fury and Trump’s gonna get us killed, etc… Then they pull this Cohen crap on such a historically important day. They’ve only proven to me that the Democrats cannot be mature adults and have NO business in leadership positions in our Government.

bflyjesusgrl

OMG, Wolfie!!! Laura Ingraham just asked “What are the chances that Dennis Rodman works for the C_A, and has been running this whole deal?”

bflyjesusgrl

IKR?? She said it out loud on live 📺!!

Linda

Laura can be really dumb sometimes. Q has already pretty much said that NK was being controlled by the Deep State aka CIA/et al. They wouldn’t be privy to their pet breaking away.

phoenixRising

Marica

Rosie has some great pics…

bflyjesusgrl

Ed Henry reporting that NBC spreading rumor that Trump has given up on inventory list of nuclear sites. MSM and Twitter blowing up, to the point that WH staff had to call meeting with press to tell them it’s not true. Good Grief!! Everything will not be resolved at this Summit. It will be baby steps. Just that we are where we are now is so amazing compared to where we were when O left, headed for nuclear war. POTUS is building a relationship with Kim, that takes time. Love our POTUS!! 💕

bflyjesusgrl

North Korea has been brainwashed for over 70years to hate and believe that America is their number one enemy. It’s a cultural, multi generational belief system and way of life for the people. It’s gonna take more than a little while for Kim to slowly walk that back. We need to pray for the North Koreans.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Amen.

fleporeblog

China is in some serious trouble!

From the article linked above:
The official Purchasing Manager’s Index (PMI) fell to 49.2 in February, data showed on Thursday, the weakest level since February 2016.
The 50-point index mark separates expansion from contraction on a monthly basis.
Analysts surveyed by Reuters had forecast the PMI to come in at 49.5, unchanged from January.
Economic growth in China cooled to its weakest in almost three decades in 2018, and analysts expect a further softening in coming months before stimulus measures start to kick in. Many fear a sharper slowdown in the world’s second-biggest economy if current Sino-U.S. trade talks fail and the dispute escalates.

fleporeblog
Linda

Must be pretty humbling to realize that all their success of the past 3 decades has been totally dependent on us taking a dive and not on their economic prowess.

bflyjesusgrl

Hey Flep, did you see this? China has a hard deadline.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/02/26/commerce-secretary-tariffs-will-rise-for-china-if-no-deal-at-mar-a-lago/
“Our negotiations with China have already addressed many of the outstanding issues we face with them. So, President Trump is willing to extend a bit the deadline on tariffs to see whether we can achieve an enforceable agreement in an ultimate session at Mar-a-Lago,” said Ross.
He added that if they do not forge an agreement at such a Trump-Xi summit then the U.S. “will go forward with the original plan to raise tariffs on $200 billion of imports from 10 percent to 25 percent. And, meanwhile, the 25 percent tariff on $50 billion in Chinese imports will remain in place.”

Marica

Flep! Watch this!! WOW!
https://twitter.com/Distinct_Words/status/1100940715247448065?s=20
Getting really interesting!!!

Alison

Marica, I love this graph through time. Watching China in the new millenium, knowing that WE gave them that exponential growth thanks to our rat bastard Uniparty sellouts, including Bush & Obama!!
It’s almost like #FakeChinaGDP 😠😡😠😡 It will be interesting to watch the next decade.

Marica

Exactly!!! It’s gonna be an ‘Amazing TIme to be Alive”!!!

michaelh

That’s amazing!

Marica

right Michael!! The Coolest graph I have ever seen!

michaelh

The WINNING graph!

Sylvia Avery

No wonder China thinks they are hot stuff. They have been unstoppable. Till now. And thanks to our foolish, feckless leaders.

Sylvia Avery

Sorry, hit enter too soon.
Point is, China didn’t, COULDN’T, do it on their own. I wonder if they have forgotten that little fact?

michaelh

Since when have facts ever gotten in the way of sheer hubris?

bflyjesusgrl
Marica
Alison

Marica – that first one is a ‘take’ from Flashdance – one of my alltime favorite movies! What a hoot 🤣🤣

Marica

Alison!! Mine too!!! Funny story–( i know I went to bed but can’t sleep!) Took my daughter to see Broadway series Musical of Flashdance!! Loved it!! As we were driving home she said ” HA! Now I know where you got your dance moves!” LOLOL!!! I died.🤣🤣🤣

Alison

What a Feeling … Make it Happen Bada Bing Bada Bing 🤣🤣

Marica

her favorite song–I’m going on a Manhunt!!! HA!!!

Sylvia Avery

I loved Flashdance. Great music!

fleporeblog

The entire family is racist! She did this AFTER her husband’s fiasco.

Marica

AFTER?!!! Dang!!! Gov. Northam still moonwalking through the Governor Mansion!! (stolen from Shem)
🤣🤣🤣 I can’t even.!

bflyjesusgrl

Where’s that Winnamins Baby?!?!🤗🤗

Marica

butterfly!! –My other twin!! I just watched this!!! WOW!!!!

Linda

Sylvia Avery

That is excellent. Clearly and concisely captures what’s going on. One of the best political cartoons!!!

Gail Combs

I thought the same and dragged Hubby over to look at it.
I hope that cartoon goes viral!

fleporeblog

Alison

I am very happy that Sec. Pompeo & COS Mick Mulvaney are the wingmen on this trip. I trust that both of them are solidly in President Trump’s camp; they truly serve their boss and our country well.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Definitely two great guys who have our VSG’s back 100%. Couldn’t ask for better support.

Marica

I tried to go to sleep Daughn!! I cant!! this is so Amazingly historical!!!

bflyjesusgrl

I know, I’m too excited to sleep!! And we have another 3-4 more hours to go til the POTUS press conference!!! Maybe a nap 😴 on the couch??

Marica

Nap is a good idea!!! So afraid I will Nap and Miss IT!! But I do have cell phone alarm and its like a Battle Stations Alert! so there’s that!

bflyjesusgrl

LOLOL, me too, that’s also my ringtone!! You are so my Sister from another Mister!!! 🥰🦋👯‍♀️🦋🤸‍♀️ 🦋😍

Marica

SO True Butterfly!!! Zoe thinks we are!!!🤣😍😘😊😎

bflyjesusgrl

LOL, Yeppurs!! 🤗🤣

bflyjesusgrl

Tee Hee Hee, couldn’t happen to a nicer group of folks!! 🤗🤗
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/02/27/february-delivers-humiliating-ratings-month-far-left-cnn/

fleporeblog

U.S. Journalist: “Chairman Kim are you willing to denuclearize?”
Chairman Kim: “If I’m not willing to do that, I won’t be here right now.”
PDJT: “That might be the best answer you’ve ever heard.”
U.S. Journalist: “Are you willing to take concrete steps to denuclearize?”
Chairman Kim: “That’s what we are discussing right now.”
U.S. Journalist: “President Trump will there would be a political statement to end the war?”
PDJT: “No matter what happens we’ll ultimately have a deal that’s really good for Chairman Kim and his country. That’s where it’s all leading. It doesn’t mean we’re doing it in one day, in one meeting. I really believe with this great leadership North Korea, I really believe it’s going to be very successful.”
U.S. Journalist: “Chairman Kim are you ready for the US to have a liaison office in Pyongyang.”
PDJT: “That’s actually an interesting question. I would like to actually hear that answer. “
Chairman Kim replied: “That is something that is welcomeable.”
PDJT: “The idea was a great thing.”

Marica

bflyjesusgrl

Shannon Bream per Sarah Sanders, POTUS to hold single press conference within the next hour. Wouldn’t commit to signing of a document, things are still fluid.

Marica

Well– Glad I stayed up!!

bflyjesusgrl

One…More…Hour… Please pass the toothpicks🤪🤪

Marica

I don’t hafta hear ARUUUGA from my phone..so that’s a plus!

bflyjesusgrl

Beep Beep!! 😆 It’s late, we’re tired, but Isn’t that RoadRunner from the wayback Machine?? BEEP BEEP, ARUUUGA!!

Marica

It is Sweetheart!! I am so glad you get me!!! 🤣🤣🤣😎

bflyjesusgrl

OMG, I surprisingly, delightfully, surely DO!! 🤗😍🤗 LOLOLOL, TOO FUNNY 😂😂

bflyjesusgrl

Surprised, because I remembered. As giggly silly kids, We use to play a game where we pushed on someone’s nose 2 times while saying BEEP BEEP, then do the long pull of the nose, ARUUUGA!! Annoyed the grownups to no end!😂

bflyjesusgrl

bflyjesusgrl

****Fox News Update**** – Travel Pool Press waiting in room where lunch was supposed to happen, pulled into holding room, told by Sanders that while negotiations are still ongoing, POTUS was expected to leave hotel in 30-45 minutes and head back to his hotel, the Marriott, and that the Press Conference would be moved up from 4pm to 2pm, which was the time the original signing should have taken place.
Don’t know if signing already took place or is cancelled, Too soon to tell anything

bflyjesusgrl

Both Motorcades staged

wheatietoo

Hmm…this is different from what is being reported on Fox.
The reason why the time for the presser has ‘changed’…is because Pres Trump and Kim Jung Un are still talking.
But Bloomberg is trying to spin it in the worst possible way.

wheatietoo

Now they’re saying on Fox that Pres Trump will be holding a “solo news conference”.

michaelh

We have to trust POTUS has this and is well aware of what’s up.

bflyjesusgrl

So question is where for the press conference, place where they are now, or back at the Marriott?? If I remember correctly, Kim bailed early on the last summit, too. Maybe he’s skipping hotel lunch because of his food paranoia and he’s really really hungry😃

michaelh

Yeah I get the munchies too.

michaelh

“I will NOT sign any agreement UNTIL I get my Big Mac!”

wheatietoo

All sorts of theories are floating on twitter:
https://twitter.com/MAGA__Media/status/1101005506552815616

michaelh

Could be a Reykjavik moment.
Could be trolling the media. (Would make me very happy but still difficult to watch.)
Could just be that everyone needs a rest.

bflyjesusgrl

WH says No Agreement reached. 😩

bflyjesusgrl

Press conference to be held at Summit hotel, setting up now. Again Officialy per WH, NO AGREEMENT made.

wheatietoo

They’re setting up for a presser at the Marriott, which is PTrump’s hotel.
…per Fox.

bflyjesusgrl

Sarah said teams will continue working, so that’s a good sign. There will probably be several more Summits. Bill Hemmer just reminded, it took Reagan and Gorbachev 5 yrs. We’re a microwave society, NK is kinda in the Stone Age. Patience, Grasshoppers. No deal is better than a bad deal.

bflyjesusgrl

I hear the Internet breaking!!

wheatietoo

Yep.

Molly Pitcher

Bummer.

Linda

According to an anon on 8chan, South Korean news just reported that Kim said he would be willing to accept a Nobel Prize if it went to both him and DJT. Won’t hear that on our news.

Marica
wheatietoo

bflyjesusgrl

Pins and needles, y’all.

wheatietoo

The worldwide MindControlMedia are all tripping over themselves to report that “Trump has failed” to make an agreement with Kim Jung Un.
All the usual suspects…their tweets are so vile, I refuse to post them here.
I loathe these people!

Molly Pitcher

Yeah the Left is delirious with this development. They really don’t care about peace or anything else as long as PTrump can be made to look bad.
It’s so strange that Un seemed so sure, made the statement about denuking…and then wham

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Interesting. I smell China stalling it. Just my gut instinct.

wheatietoo

Well…”no deal is better than a bad deal”…so I’m thinking that little Kim tried to get ‘something for nothing’.
So our VSG just said, “that’s it”, and walked away.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. Can’t Stump the Trump. Kim’ gonna have to stop letting the ChiComs manipulate him. And the’re probably pulling some crap out of left field that he has no clue is really them.

wheatietoo

I think it’s *all* connected…even to Venezuela.
And woah, Pres Trump just mentioned VZ!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup.
Commie clean-up. WW. BRING IT. 😎

bflyjesusgrl

NO KIMMY, WE’RE NOT REMOVING THE SANCTIONS!!!

bflyjesusgrl

Yep, I thought that too. Ross just announced Tariffs rise after Mar-A-lago. Very Foolish on China’s part, Kim’s too.
POTUS aint no fool, HE DONT PLAY and HE DONT BACK DOWN!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Don’t even TRY to Stump the Trump.

bflyjesusgrl

Sometimes you have to walk!

wheatietoo

“Sometimes you have to walk.” <— Pres Trump

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I suspect that this was a MONSTROUS wheat-chaff sorter by Trump, and one or more parties failed.

Deplorable Patriot

The cabal tightened its grip somewhere. NK is one of the parts of the fight we are allowed to see. If the money supplies really have been cut off, there’s something else out there, and Kim is caught in the middle. Trump has to know this.

bflyjesusgrl

We wanted Kim to do more, but he was not prepared to.

bflyjesusgrl

I knew it, they wanted all sanctions lifted!! H€££ NO!!!

bflyjesusgrl

We know every inch of that country! Kim wanted denuke of only certain areas, we wanted more.

wheatietoo

Did little Kim bring up Venezuela as a ‘condition’ to their deal?
I’m thinking that he did!

wheatietoo

Sean Hannity asking Potus a question now…bringing up Reykjavik.

bflyjesusgrl

Kim promised POTUS last night that he wouldn’t do anymore nuclear rocket testing.

bflyjesusgrl

Cohen question 🤬🤬🤬🤬 Damn idiot!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

ChiComs. America’s Commie press does their work.

wheatietoo

PTrump answering a question about Cohen…he questions the ‘timing’ of the Dems having his testimony during this historical meeting.

bflyjesusgrl

So inappropriate!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

RED CHINA
HOUSE OF COMMIES
COMMUNIST FAKE NEWS
VENEZUELAN COMMIES
UNIVISION COMMIE JORGE RAMOS with his bogus info hand-off
MUH RUSSIA jumping to Venezuela’s defense
I mean, seriously, is this even a question?
It is ALL coordinated.
Knowing that, how do you play?
Exactly the way it’s being played. Give them every chance to bail from their stupid plot.

bflyjesusgrl

PT – I’d much rather do it right than do it fast.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

No mistakes. A *GREAT* deal or NOTHING. No Obama deals. NO WAY.

wheatietoo

I think the ChiComs pressured Kim to bring up Venezuela in their talks.
Probably told PTrump that he had to ‘back off in Venezuela’.
And our VSG Potus just said…”That’s it”…and walked away.
The ChiComs stand to lose billions when Maduro falls.
They are not happy about our support of the people and the new Venezuelan President.

wheatietoo

I didn’t like Kim’s attitude this time…it was different from the getgo.
Kind of smug, like he was in the catbird seat.
I didn’t want to say anything, was hoping for the best.
But something was ‘off’ about his attitude this time.

GA/FL

Yep – KJU has a dark side. Obviously, he and his handlers are not quite converted/convinced to remake him into a benevolent/benign leader of his country.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Interesting theory. This makes sense, because that is the kind of shit tactic that ChiComs will do. But they probably got SOMEBODY ELSE to ask Kim – send it through a third party. Maybe Maduro.
Win/Win for the ChiComs. Trump relieves China, or the ChiComs suck Kim back into their grasp. Kim plays the young chump.

wheatietoo

Why else would PTrump bring up “Venezuela” in the first few sentences of this presser?
I think he’s still steaming about it.
Kim and the ChiComs thought that PTrump was so ‘desperate’ for a win in these talks…that they could get whatever they wanted.
Wrong!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I don’t know – I don’t think the Chi are that foolish. I think they have a plan.

wheatietoo

Well they are getting desperate.
And desperate people do foolish things.
Chairman Xi will ‘lose face’ bigtime, when Maduro finally falls.
And Maduro *will* fall.
Today, Maduro was confiscating Gold from the banks there, in a desperate move to get as much as he can…while he still can.
It was widely condemned as an “illegal act”.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

My guess – pay for his Russian contractors to evacuate him if it all goes south.
ChiComs will take a way bigger hit than Russia on Venezuela, I’m thinking.

wheatietoo

Putin already took what he could get, from VZ.
He’s a realist.
He sees what is coming.
Putin probably feels like if he stays out of it…and doesn’t try to bolster Maduro…that he can come back later and do a deal with the new President.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

ChiComs are obsessed with the idea of world domination.

Sylvia Avery

I hope they get dispossessed of that notion toot suite.

Kalbo

Early reports of NK willing to dismantle plutonium plants and the like, but not give up nukes didn’t seem like a winning strategy.
– However, willingness to give up those facilities was a huge step forward and one to build on. Pompeo will do just that.
ChiComs surely could make denuclearizing the Peninsula work, and ensured it wouldn’t. IF Kim played the Venezuela card, major ChiCom blunder.
– President Trump won’t hold it against Kim, but will against ChiComs.
No deal by NK, in ChiCom minds is leverage for ChiCom.
– ChiCom did not win anything with President Trump.
ChiCom does fancy and plan on world domination.
– IMHO, will never happen.
Don’t believe Kim is wedded to his nukes. Nukes are a security blanket of sorts. Security can be assured through peace and investments. NK Generals almost assuredly against losing the nukes.
– Kim will reign them in…bribe the hell out of them. Maybe have a couple cease being players. An airplane crashes, car accidents, training accident… Nothing gruesome to evoke bad press.
SK and Japan, if they have not already committed to do so, they must have massive formal investment and aid ready for NK. Timed with NK being fully onboard denuclearize agreement signing. Absolute security for Kim and NK from retribution over past crimes against humanity. The latter far better than NK with nukes they can obliterate cities…Seoul, Tokyo, Seattle…
– In addition to President Trump updating Moon and Abe on the Summit, massive investment, aid and security assurances will be reinforced and pursued.
– Moon will be more active and engaging with NK.
Trade talks with ChiComs at some point will arrive at the biggies such as forced technology transfers, penalties for ChiCom cheating in the future. ChiCom will not willingly comply. Not enough ChiCom pain, yet. IF Xi arrives in Mar Lago late March, Xi will either agree or President Trump will walk away.
– Having walked away in Hanoi, Xi knows President Trump WILL walk away from a bad deal.
– So ChiComs know, President Trump will walk away. And ChiComs know massive tariffs delayed, will become effective immediately.
Ending the Korean War, will, I think become part of Peninsula denuclearization.
Perhaps not publicly, NK and SK reunification path will be agreed to by SK, NK and US. Not ChiComs as they don’t see reunification in their interest.
Don’t personally see this as a set back. Rather a step in the right direction. Absolute goodness comes from denuclearization. Kim knows this. As does Moon, Abe and President Trump. ChiComs are conflicted with insecurities and control freaks.

bflyjesusgrl

Sanctions hurt NK more than they hurt us. How long can they keep going, it’s been over a year now. Yes, China and others are cheating some, but Kim has a long train ride home!! I see no new Airplane in his immediate future.

wheatietoo

Kim overplayed his hand…bigtime.
He must not have read PTrump’s book, ‘Art of the Deal’.
Because walking-away is one of the things that PDJT said that you always have to be ready to do!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

ChiComs probably fed him bad intel through some general.

bflyjesusgrl

Young, arrogant, and foolish. Took bad advice from someone!

bflyjesusgrl

So Kim offersed to give up a few nuclear locations, and when we asked for the uranium locations too, he seemed surprised that we knew about them. HaHa!

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bflyjesusgrl

PT – Kim felt bad about Otto. Wasn’t aware til after the fact. Prisons are rough, big country, a lot of people, lower level people did something bad to him without Kim knowing. Kim had nothing to gain by harming Otto.

wheatietoo

I think our President was ‘making nice’ by saying that about Kim.
Our VSG doesn’t want to slam any doors.
I think he is making it clear that the door is still open, to come to an agreement.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. He’ll give this guy some outs.

Gail Combs

President knows the ‘dance’ He has been doing deals since before Kim was born… AND he holds the winning hand!
Felice & SD has kept us up to date on the economic winning hand but there is a lot more.
I am quite sure President Trump has the intel on all the Congressmice and SenateRats that have been taking BRIBES from foreign governments. (President Trump + AG Session => One Year FISA warrants WITHOUT courts knowing!)
Awan Brothers….
El Chapo….
DiFi’s Chinese Spy….
Piglosi and the Drug Cartel — that is why he wanted HER as House Majority Leader
Californicate’s Reps and Senators and Human Trafficking…
Wiener’s Laptop…
As Q said, things are going to start getting ‘interesting’
The DemonRats really blew it with the state INFANTICIDE laws. That is shocking a whole passel of people into waking up. The news of ElChapo bribing AMERICAN Politians + the DemonRats denial of problems on the border is raising a few eyebrows too.
AG Sessions just spent the last two yeasr arresting a YUGE number of MS 13 thugs (Think drugs) and child Sex Traffickers & Porn rings. Not to mention medical fraud practicioners.
Lighter sentences ===> INFORMATION and you work your way through the webs. ALL of it is connected with a lot going back to the Politicians & Clintons & CHINA!

bflyjesusgrl

Alas, Butterfly out 🦋🦋😴😴💤💤🦋🦋

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Good night!!! 😎

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para59r

This will put POTUS in a stronger position come Mar-o-lago. China’s turn next. I bet there sweating this now.

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YES!!!

Alison

I think the Chinese used this summit to see how far they could push President Trump to have their cake (good trade terms) and eat it too (keep control of NK). When Kim said he wouldn’t be there if he didn’t intend to discuss denuclearization, the Chicoms essentially pulled Kim from the negotiating stage because he got out over his Chinese-owned-&-operated skis. (Forgot he’s only a puppet).
Trump is trying to lure Kim away from Chicoms, but that is going to take more time and more hard squeezes on China. It is complicated business!
We need to watch Lighthizer and whether the trade tariffs that were just postponed get reinstated, regardless of the status of the (irrelevant) MOU. I don’t think President Trump is going to make nice at the trade table after Chicoms just squelched Kim in the midst of the summit.
Fascinating geopolitics. We can not forget that whether it is NK, Middle East, Africa or South America, the enemy behind the curtain is China (and to some extent Russia).
President Trump knows, learns, adapts, and finds a way. We owe him our vocal support and patience.

Sylvia Avery

That dawned on me, too, after I got done being disappointed by the end of the summit.
Oh good buddy Xi! Let’s talk!

michaelh

Yes POTUS has been in the driver’s seat from the beginning on this. He isn’t doing this for “muh legacy” unlike a certain other individual.
Naturally the media will spin this to some BS about losing credibility, how do you regain the face you lost, pressure is on for POTUS to deliver, questioning whether this is going to get across the line, what the impact will be to his legacy, blah blah blah. They all talk like traitors.

Kalbo

President Trump’s bottom line is spot on….make a good deal, not a bad deal.
Pressure is on ChiComs and NK.
President Trump has the winning hand.
President Trump will prevail with NK and China.

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Kalbo

No doubt in my mind Kim did NOT know about Otto’s condition until it was too late.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Communist Fake News flubs it again:

wheatietoo

Yeah, like I said earlier…the MindControlMedia were all tripping over themselves to claim that “Trump failed” to make a deal.
They are all vile, slimy skuzoids!
The way I see it, Pres Trump succeeded in recognizing a Bad Deal and did the only thing he *could* do…he walked away from it!

Gail Combs
fleporeblog

President Xi is going to get his ass handed to him! The fact our President was willing to walk away shows that he isn’t going to settle.
https://twitter.com/baba9773/status/1101034685407342593?s=21

Sylvia Avery

Seems like that to me, too.

wheatietoo

Fle…I don’t think China is allowing the true story to come out, of how bad it is getting there.
I mean, as bad as the stories are, that they are allowing us to know about…I think that tells us that things are really much worse.

Emeraldstar

I agree, Wheatie.
Their stock market is down 40%, manufacturing contracted for the THIRD straight month, and they just borrowed 5% of GDP in ONE month.
I also recall that economist (now silenced) who, a couple months ago, put their REAL growth number at ~2%, when the gov’t was claiming 6-7%.
I bet even the manufacturing number is understated, in terms of how severe the contraction is.
And new US tariffs can happen at any time … which will be crippling economically. Lies won’t help!

wheatietoo

Thanks, EmStar.
Yeah, it’s not like communists to ever admit how bad things really are.
The Soviets in Russia tried to hide how bad things were…right up until end.

Emeraldstar

Maduro in Venezuela is doing the same.
Socialism, communism … to-MAY-to, to-MAH-to.
Way too many psychopaths / sociopaths in power!

Sylvia Avery

I agree, Felice. This really sends a LOUD message to Xi.

Gail Combs

Yes, just like the Bombing in Syria while Xi is having desert at Mar-o-lago. President Trump just lobbed another bomb into Xi’s lap with 25% sanctions attached. 🤣
The Fifth Column Urinalists are not helping their Masters. People KNOW they are Fake News. All they are actually doing is providing cover for President Trump.

NYGuy54

We’ll see. I don’t think it’s as cut and dried like that. Some other issues in play. NK is going to take more time.