20200320: Dear CoronaVirus/ COVID-19/ China Virus/ WuFlu, Daily Thread

For the time being, given our national emergency, we are switching to DAILY COVID-19 threads instead of weekly threads. Your comments and updates are most welcome. PLEASE continue to include your valuable information, hard source links, and local observations on these COVID Daily Threads. Additionally, within these Daily Threads, we will try to include links to government and official pressers, so those who no longer have cable can remain informed.

We’ll get through this crisis, together. As a group, there is probably no one better prepared than we are.

For our newcomers: The Q Tree community has been diligent in covering the threat of Coronavirus, COVID19, Wuhan FLU. We started accumulating information about this virus in mid-late January, in what became almost weekly threads. We’ve been weeks, if not months, ahead of MSM outlets to vet rumors and other medical papers, etc.

Primary Update Links:

In our past weekly threads, we assembled information on the following:

  • Primary update links. The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world, the CDC, and WHO, and includes the links for our past threads.
  • Hard Data Medical Information- Explanation about testing, reliance on China for drugs, analysis of NE Journal of Medicine results and other published papers.
  • Vaccine and theraputics (new/old drugs to alleviate symptoms) news and updates 
  • Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
  • China Responses, timelines, research, attempt to cover actions, or secrecy in results discovered.
  • An aggregate of info/responses from other countries, listed by country.
  • Economic impact from around the world. A change in economic activity will indicate a “return to normal”.
  • Speculation/debunking on how the virus started
  • Media Bias, political response, and debunking section, like the article from AP News, overt bias from Politico, inflammatory headlines, etc.  
  • Other medical info to boost immune system, herbal remedies, ways to keep your house clean and NOT spread the virus to others. Excellent information to incorporate into daily lifestyle.
  • Hard links for OTHER valuable sources/blogs and a brief sentence or two about what they provide
  • Other news items

Our weekly updates. timelines, collection of valuable information, can be found here:

Please try to keep your sense of humor during this National Emergency, and remember, patience is a virtue.

Love to all!

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Sadie Slays

4chan’s claiming the “coronavirus patients” in this video from an Italian hospital are mannequins. I must say that it’s awfully sketchy that all of the “patients” are all the same size, color, and completely hairless (in Italy!). Video is from UK mainstream media.comment image

grandmaintexas

So sad to see that they are not getting recoveries. Looked like most of them were men, too.
I wonder what the rates of infection are for the medical personnel?

Hoofhearted

Unacceptably high. Sanctuary PNW was constipated by migrants and homeless. The Seattle Times is reported to have highlighted these conditions in an article referencing a popular young ER M.D. who has contracted the virus among other first line health professionals who have withheld no effort in spite of lacking basic protective resources. He commented on the lack of support coming from the hospital. Evidently he was strongly reprimanded for his comments and given that he survives, stands to lose his job.

grandmaintexas

Shit. Just shit.

Sadie Slays

Probably zero if these are indeed mannequins in the video.

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

First think I noticed is they are not moving. The vent forcibly makes the lungs breathe, in and out. It’s mechanical, it’s noticeable, and loud. They had my FIL on the highest setting and it made his whole body move. Even on low, we should see their chests going up and down, but they’re not.

Sadie Slays

Confirmed. I’ve seen this in real life with a family member who was in the ICU. It’s rather disturbing to watch.

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

Yes, horrific.

grandmaintexas

And there’s no reason for this. They are NOT GETTING PROPER CARE. I don’t give a crap how nice it all looks.

mollypitcher5

Are they comatose? None of them moved a muscle

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I’ve heard of ICU patients in comas. Could be medically induced. They often do that in ICU.

Sadie Slays

Assuming these aren’t mannequins (see my original comment), they’re probably not “coronavirus patients” like the Fake News is claiming. It goes against medical advice and all common sense to lie people with severe respiratory issues on their stomach.

mollypitcher5

One of the early Youtubes on here by somebody did say that position has been found to be the most beneficial. Can’t recall why

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

One more sign that I really had it. I found that sleeping on my FRONT was easier to breathe. I have no idea why, but it was – and it’s not normal for me. Front and side. It may have been for better drainage. I was NOT using guaifenesin. Dry cough. But maybe it drains the lungs better anyway.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Maybe for tube drainage. Physical therapy has lots of those face-down tables, and maybe that just works better. Also better distribution of weight, as long as you can avoid chest compression.

pgroup

Doesn’t work for a fatso like me.

Gudthots

For lungs full of fluid they don’t want you on your back. Sometimes a sitting position where you are draped over a table allows for some relief from the coughing. It’s not fun to feel like your are drowning. The effort to breath can be beyond exhausting.

Deplorable Patriot

In general, for drainage, I have to sleep elevated. I can see where stomach sleeping would be preferable. I, uh, have assets that prevent this, but I can see it.

Sadie Slays

Had to help someone through a severe respiratory illness (like “body parts turning blue and audible crackling of fluid in the lungs” levels of severe). Medical advice I received was to keep them propped up.

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

It’s their Hail Mary position. When nothing else is working they put them on their stomachs to try and increase airflow. They did it to my FIL along with cranking the machine to max.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Thank! Makes sense!

kalbokalbs

As Molly indicated. We had a YT post where a Dr explained ARDS ? Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome….treating pneumonia. One of the three or so good things they learned was place patients on their chests. Has to do with fluid in lungs… Not a quack or medically trained, but that is the gist of it.

Teagan

And if there are issues of comfort sleeping on your front, we used to tell our patients to try using a pillow….may have to play around with size, shape, firmness, position, etc, but it usually works well.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The say that the RATE of increase is slowing. Good news – curve is going to top soon.

Alison

pgroup

Damn Jews up to their global dominance tricks again.
— any random anti-semite
/s

Sadie Slays

Teva manufactures most of the world’s puberty blockers (transgender drugs). They’re no saints.

Sadie Slays

And Bayer, who is also donating chloroquine, owns Monsanto, so screw them, too.

Deplorable Patriot

Screw Bayer in general. Monsanto went off the rails…about 50 years ago. Not sure why they bought Monsanto with all the lawsuit issues.

MAGA Mom

Current US stats: 217 deaths/125 recovered.
I want to see those recovery numbers climb!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

217 deaths? WOW – I didn’t know we even had enough patients for that.

Gudthots

I saw a chart, found it by link from wearethene.ws today…
https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/Immunization/ncov2019.aspx

Linda

We’re up to 14,354 cases in the US. New York is by far the worst with 5,712 cases.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Oh, that ain’t good, unless we’re catching lots of asymptomatic.
If the percent of asymptomatic and self-treating is high in that number, we’re good. If those are numbers in clinics and hospitals, not good.

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

We have 64 in serious/critical condition.

Gudthots

Numbers are likely to not track perfectly, but here’s Barnes at 4:19 pm 3/19/20

GA/FL

Thanks be to GOD!!!

Gudthots

Interesting…

prognosticatasaurusrex

Now couple that with my hypothesis that we have had Covid 19 here WELL before they could test for it, let alone report cases or deaths. Those numbers are indicating we are ahead of the curve, OR behind it and many just chalked it up to something else in Dec- Feb. The reason we see the spikes NOW is, one awareness, anyone with the symptoms does not “soldier on” as before, they get tested. Two, there is NOW available and ACCURATE testing.
Notice that while the numbers of testing and positive cases are rapidly increasing, the mortality rate does not indicate something that is supposedly worse than the common flu, and no where NEAR as bad as the 1918 pandemic they KEEP trying to compare this too.
I posted this yesterday to a friend. We are being scared to DEATH, which btw would only serve to MAX stress, which would naturally make EVERYTHING worse, and cannot be helping the deaths, stress by itself can KILL you. We have seen our economy attacked, and our WAY of life an our FREEDOM.
The fact is they introduced FEAR of the unknown. Supposedly Covid 19, which we know nothing about, so we had to go to these EXTREME measures because we did not have a vaccine, and it would be months away. They compared it to one of the WORST scourges to EVER hit humanity, and made this virus the boogeyman. IT WORKED.
Now, some context. EVERY YEAR we are faced with a NEW strain of the flu. Every year we start out with NO VACCINE for that flu. Sometimes like 2009, 2015, and this year it is BAD, and MILLIONS get sick, some go to the hospital, and yes some DIE, by the THOUSANDS.
What is the difference? THIS year, we decided to go ape shit overboard. If we were going to do the social distancing, and the quarantines, how come we did not START with the elderly, who are WAY proportionately affected. NO, we went whole hog. WHY?
Because some “scientist” somewhere created a computer model that said millions were gonna DIE, and that this WAS 1918 all over again. Based on facts? NOPE, based on PROJECTIONS and VARIABLES, and FLAWED data from a country in China that LIES openly, has POOR living conditions, PISS POOR sanitary and pollution conditions, and DEADFULLY PISS POOR heath care facilities. Plus there is the added bonus that the CCP don’t give two rips about their worker bee….er…citizens.
How come the projection model went with CHINA, and NOT South Korea? Akum’s razor, because China’s numbers, were MUCH worse. I have said it before, the virus IS real, and it is BAD, but it is nowhere NEAR the hype, nor nowhere NEAR the EXTREME measures taken, especially when you factor in my hypothesis that we ALL were exposed with NO controls OR containment MUCH earlier than we are being lead to believe. (Nov-Dec 2019, vs Feb-Mar this year)
I don’t want anyone sick or dead, but these things happen EVERY year. Do you want THIS to be the new norm? Neither do I, it is high time to get the TRUTH out. Notice NO ONE asks the questions like WHEN did this first start HERE, and WHAT IF IT DID start way earlier? Notice that NO ONE asks the numbers of the capacity in the hospitals we are trying to “protect”? Notice how NO ONE asks the numbers of RECOVERED, or IF that number and that of the infected and sadly the dead, could be HIGHER because we did not have a test or an accounting EARLIER?
Why do you think that IS? Is that NOT a GLARING omission of curiosity by the “reporters”? THAT detective is the RIGHT question.

Gudthots

Awesome graphic…

kea

Reminds me of the old trail video game.

Hoofhearted

WA – 74 deaths

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Oh, that’s bad stuff.
I think Sylvia’s got it. People keep her in prayer and make sure she keeps checking in at least once daily.

Hoofhearted

yes, my wife especially is in contact with her regularly.

michaelh

I did reach out to her via email this afternoon, made sure we’re in the loop with her.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Good! I saw here here late last night.

Sylvia Avery

Thanks Wolfie. I made it 24 hours without any fever. Some coughing tonight. The worst thing today has been fatigue. Sleeping LOTS. On my way back to bed after drinking a big glass of water……Check with you all tomorrow.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Excellent. You’re doing well. I lost the fever, too. You’re almost perfectly tracking what I had. Yes – lots of sleep those first few days.
Great to hear from you! Hugs!!! <3

Aubergine

Glad to hear from you! Sounds like what I had, too. Fatigue was brutal, in me and the others I think had it. Mine lasted about three weeks before I was “up to speed” again.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

With any luck, before we know it….comment image?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpc3MiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwic3ViIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTpmaWxlLmRvd25sb2FkIl0sIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiIvZi8wNzcyMmJjYy01NzYwLTRmNjAtOTUzOC1kMjNjOTJmZDQ2NDMvZDV0Z2N5ei00Y2FiYmQ4ZC0wNjc0LTQyNTEtOWM1ZC02NGIyOTQ0OGIzMzcuanBnIn1dXX0.uDStLYoUSqAaWL2eE_0QYtc_oNR8QquvmCmmEw1zvk4

Sylvia Avery

Steve! LOL! I hope you’re right! TY!!!!!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

As do we all!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Crap… let me try again.comment image

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Dammit, not again.
I have no idea why, now, I get ridiculously long links for images that don’t work.

GA/FL

Love you, Sylvia! ❤️ 💐 🍲 ☕ (that’s homemade chicken soup and hot tea with lemon and honey!)

Sylvia Avery

Just purrfect, thank you GA/FL!

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

GodSpeed Miss Sylvia❣ Knock that WuFlu on it’s Azz!! Then rise up and beat the snot out of it with your shovel!! Praying for your quick healing and recovery, Luv U 🤗😘🥣🍦☕💐🌻💞💖

Sylvia Avery

Thank you bfly!!!!!

kalbokalbs

Based on a few of Sylvia’s comments yesterday, I was worried it may be so. Prayers on going.

Gingersmom2009

13, 000+ in mild condition. Just tossing that in as a positive.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

michaelh

Disappointing but expected…

Gudthots

Outrage isn’t good for your health, but neither is ignoring threats…

michaelh

Nobody escapes from this.

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

All the back to normal videos they’ve been showing ARE STAGED. They focus on small groups of people. Look at the background. WHERE ARE ALL THE CARS?? WHERE ARE ALL THE PEOPLE?? With over a Billion people, normally China streets and sidewalks are ALWAYS packed.
A HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS VIRUS JUST DISAPPEARS AFTER 4 MONTHS??? PUH-LEEZ!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. This is how the ChiNazis are gaining and keeping control of the people.
IC knows the truth from surveillance, trust me.

mollypitcher5
wheatietoo

What about all the homeless people camping out in the streets?

Gudthots

No time like the present to deal with THAT problem.

mollypitcher5

What about the gangstas who no longer need worry about arrests? They staying holed up too?
What about the peeps being let out of jail…all free and nowhere to go?
Imagine some DMV worker riding shotgun yelling through a bullhorn to get inside..sheesh…it’s going to implode

gil00

Theyll do nothing to them. Theyre already at the bottom. This is to put the boot on resisters.
Who does he think will enforce this? Leo wont.
Same for newscum’s martial law without saying so.
Gavin newscum and garcetti…two people who should be on a pike.

Teagan

Notice how that topic is avoided.

michaelh

Secure Freedom Minute
Yesterday, the White House press corps asserted that it is “racist” for President Trump to say the novel coronavirus originated in China. Not only is such criticism counter-factual. It actually reinforces what must now be recognized as enemy propaganda.
After all, the Chinese Communist Party is no longer hiding its determination to supplant and, if necessary, defeat our nation as the world’s preeminent power. But the Party is doing everything it can to blame us for the deadly pandemic that originated in Wuhan and is now wreaking havoc globally.
Britain’s University of Southampton estimates that 95% of the damage done by the Chinese virus could have been avoided if the Communist Party had not wasted three weeks lying about its outbreak. Not only must Xi Jinping and Company be held responsible for such outrageous misconduct. They should be financially penalized for it.
This is Frank Gaffney.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Financially penalized?
I wouldn’t mind seeing a few of them get the same treatment as that asshole from Iran.

Gudthots

We are so blessed.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

AMEN!!! I love the way she describes the way it WILL BE WHEN IT’S OVER.

Gudthots

SOON.

Gudthots

Sol!

Gudthots

Ha!comment image

Hoofhearted

That is actually fairly good form for a running jumping side kick.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Good social distancing in that video!

michaelh

LOL Laughter is GREAT medicine!

mollypitcher5

Might be old news to the CV threads but …
https://twitter.com/Ravagiing/status/1240363895375761409

Gudthots

I sure hope they credit Daughn for helping with the timeline!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Looks like they picked up ChiCom deflecto to me.

michaelh

settings
Open Access
Viruses 2019, 11(3), 210; https://doi.org/10.3390/v11030210
Review
Bat Coronaviruses in China
by Yi Fan 1,2OrcID,Kai Zhao 1,2,Zheng-Li Shi 1,2OrcID andPeng Zhou 1,2,*OrcID
1
CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan 430071, China
2
University of Chinese Academy of Sciences, Beijing 100049, China
*
Author to whom correspondence should be addressed.
Received: 29 January 2019 / Accepted: 26 February 2019 / Published: 2 March 2019
https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/11/3/210/htm
Abstract: During the past two decades, three zoonotic coronaviruses have been identified as the cause of large-scale disease outbreaks–Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS), Middle East Respiratory Syndrome (MERS), and Swine Acute Diarrhea Syndrome (SADS). SARS and MERS emerged in 2003 and 2012, respectively, and caused a worldwide pandemic that claimed thousands of human lives, while SADS struck the swine industry in 2017. They have common characteristics, such as they are all highly pathogenic to humans or livestock, their agents originated from bats, and two of them originated in China. Thus, it is highly likely that future SARS- or MERS-like coronavirus outbreaks will originate from bats, and there is an increased probability that this will occur in China. Therefore, the investigation of bat coronaviruses becomes an urgent issue for the detection of early warning signs, which in turn minimizes the impact of such future outbreaks in China. The purpose of the review is to summarize the current knowledge on viral diversity, reservoir hosts, and the geographical distributions of bat coronaviruses in China, and eventually we aim to predict virus hotspots and their cross-species transmission potential.
Keywords: coronavirus; bat; epidemiology; cross-species; zoonosis
1. Introduction
Fifteen years after the first highly pathogenic human coronavirus caused the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV) outbreak, another severe acute diarrhea syndrome coronavirus (SADS-CoV) devastated livestock production by causing fatal diseases in pigs. Both outbreaks began in China and were caused by coronaviruses of bat origin [1,2]. This increased the urgency to study bat coronaviruses in China to understand their potential of causing another virus outbreak.
In this review, we collected information from past epidemiology studies on bat coronaviruses in China, including the virus species identified, their host species, and their geographical distributions. We also discuss the future prospects of bat coronaviruses cross-species transmission and spread in China.
. . .
7. Conclusions
Two bat origin CoVs caused large-scale epidemics in China over fourteen years, highlighting the risk of a future bat CoV outbreak in this nation. In this review, we have summarized the current findings related to bat CoV epidemiology in China, aiming to explore the associations between CoV species, bat species, and geographical locations, and eventually we aim to predict the cross-species transmission potential of these bat CoVs. Admittedly, the analysis may be affected by inaccurate or incomplete data. For example, not all research groups performed bat species identification or used Global Positioning System (GPS) during bat sampling. Bats in the north or west provinces were not surveyed either. Nonetheless, we believe this analysis is a good starting point for further research. Moreover, there are other outstanding questions that should be addressed in future studies: (1) given that most of the ICTV classified CoV species are from bats, why there are so many genetically divergent CoVs in bats, (2) the pathogenesis of most bat CoVs in humans remains unknown as the viruses have never been isolated or rescued—apart from the viruses identified during the outbreaks, many viruses pose a threat to human health, (3) although SARS-CoV and SADS-CoV were known to be transmitted from bats to human or swine, their exact transmission routes are unknown, and (4) why bats can maintain CoVs long-term without showing clinical symptoms of diseases. A unique bat immunity model has been proposed. The authors have shown that constitutively expressed bat interferon α may protect bats from infection [76], while some particularly dampened immune pathways may allow bats to have a higher tolerance against viral diseases [77]. While we start to unveil the mystery of unique bat immunity, there is still long way to go before we can fully understand the relationship between bats and coronaviruses.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I think MONEY is the big deal here. More in a minute. But introducing a new disease is all about following the money.

michaelh

Their bio program sure loves CV variants.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Remember how in 1G war LOOTING and SPOILS were so important?
4GW is still all about the money. And for the Chinese, and their allies like Bill Gates, and all these companies, and entrepreneurs, they were planning to MAKE MONEY on the disaster.
It is so clear now. Amazing Polly found what I needed. Oh, they all have motive, and it’s not what you think.
Yeah. She nailed it.

michaelh

In another week you’re going to have so many posts about 4GW that you’ll have the whole thing gamed out and in public view.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Trump has to understand this shit. I’m sure now that CDC is the most “innocently corrupted” part of the federal government. This is where that “AIDS in 10 years” thing is coming from, I’ll bet. It’s more of their BAIT FOR MONEY. And then they give it to that PEPFAR who gives it to that GLOBAL FUND and then they STEAL THEIR OWN ANTIMALARIALS and resell them and collect insurance and nobody can check and the whole thing is a SCAM
And oh – did I say they were stealing their own ANTIMALARIALS? Totally corrupt, and we keep dumping taxpayer money into this shit?
And OH – did somebody mention that ANTIMALARIALS are the big “new” cure for the coronavirus?
WHAT ARE THE ODDS?
Think they might have known that from prison experiments? Life is cheap in China.
Such a scam.
Watch Polly. It will blow your mind. This is BIO-9/11 with CHICOM TROLLS.

coosmama

Wolfie, can you please post the s/s graphic connecting the dots, which Polly put up at the end of her “You’re being Played” video. I think if you h/t it should be ok. She made a point to say “Here’s your screen grab”, or something to that effect.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yeah, I’ll try to dig in later. Gotta put out all the usual fires right now!!! 😀

michaelh

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yeah, he’s got the academic stuff, but he’s pushing the ChiCom narrative about an accident. I knew this was coming, that they would back off Bat Soup completely.

geneticallycatholic

Apologies if this has already been posted in one of the other Coronavirus threads…
I love American Thought Leaders…. and here is a discussion on the Coronavirus …and how the Chinese Communists party creates their narrative….

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OK – everybody who is looking at this whole Corona thing would do well to look at this very inconclusive video that Amazing Polly did, and Duchess pointed out to me. It will CHANGE YOUR VIEW OF CORONAGATE.
https://youtu.be/RSfP8sXtMbk
This is all about ChiCom corruption – corrupting EVERYBODY – and everybody selling out the United States AND now China for MONEY. People are either DUPES like this CDC PEPFAR woman, with her Shanghai dress and symbolism, and her penchant for dumping federal money where Bill Clinton and GW Bush want it to go, or they are MARXISTS like that head of WHO, who is NOT stupid, but a RADICAL MARXIST TERRORIST – undoubtedly connected to CHYYYNNAA – who China got into that position.
OR THEY ARE Bill Gates, who must have some money-making angle here.
Oh, it is SO corrupt.
Just watch this thing, and you will realize that Trump and Pence have played along with the most corrupt scam in the history of this planet. We are in the MIDDLE of BIOLOGICAL 9/11 SCAM.
Holy CRAP. It’s all about the money. ALL OF THESE FUCKERS. Burr and Loeffler are just trying to save some of theirs in the NEW 9/11.
This is a fucking 9/11 Blood Hoax. It’s all about the money. They are planning to MAKE MONEY – all of these CROOKS. Now everybody comes running JUST LIKE 9/11 to FEED on the DISASTER.
Haiti? Oh, we have MEGA-HAITI. United States as HAITI.
The decided that they had to inflict a 9/11 on Trump, just like they did on Bush, except I think Bush played along with it more from the standpoint of wanting a cut.
Just watch the video. Then take a few days to re-sort everything you know.

coosmama

The Screen Grab graphic at the end is important. Thanks for posting this link!

Please

A couple thoughts on the current timeline:
First Chapter: Chinazi release virus, possibly with DS knowledge/permission. Their hope and usage is manifold, but crushing US economy and POTUSVSG is top of the list. Their hope is POTUSVSG fumbles response over several months, and China (with WHO) saves the world.
Second Chapter: POTUSVSG does not fumble, He is ahead of it. He makes al;l the right moves. They are well-measured and positioned to ramp up or de-escalate as needed…like a VSG BOSS! He also uses the crisis to implement the start of “The Storm”. Also hammering China with “Chinese Virus”, exposing the truth and Chinese-paid MSM/DS sycophants.
Third Chapter: POTUSVSG prescient passing of the “Right To Try” law along with US ingenuity discover several possible cures for ChiVi (<<testing CHI-nese VI-rus). Cures that DS, CHI and WHO knew and had all along but were going to wait several more weeks/months to let POTUSVSG fail badly, before 'saving the day',
This Moment: Where we are now. China/DS/WHO/[ALL] begin to realize their plan is failing badly and they've been badly outplayed. They are scrambling for the next disaster/drama/FF or whatever, but this was a big use of ammo. They begin to realize everything they do to hurt POTUSVSG blows up in their face and gets used against them. Boomerang! They realize that there are no more 'easy' attacks'. They begin to realize "The Storm" is here and they are being exposed and targeted by non-corruptible law enforcement.
The Next Chapter: The cure is real enough (not perfect, but very good). The panic will subside almost instantly. The economy recovers quickly with record plus days to counterbalance the previous downturns. US citizens are more united. "The Storm" unfolds in the news and behind the scenes. The Globalist Agenda is at severe risk of being undone. "It's Habbening!"
CHI/DS/[ALL] will never concede defeat, but their next attack has to be bigger and bolder if it will have any effect on the growing strength of POTUSVSG and MAGA. But, even MORE people are now awake worldwide. MAGA movement (MEGA- Make Everything Great Again!) is going worldwide. "The Awakening" is upon us. Hopefully, Durham, just one phase of "The Storm", is coming late spring/early summer to clean up US corruption. [They] haven't much time.
The big bad horrible question is: What more can DS/CHI/[ALL] do? They are capable of extreme evil. It might get worse before it gets better. Be prepped. Be safe. Pray. GOD WINS!

Please

EDIT: Replace “[ALL]” with “[EVIL]”… is much more appropriate…

Alison
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

THESE ARE *AWESOME* STATS!!!
One thing that is cool is that HALF of the cases are asymptomatic.
Another is that 83% don’t get it, even in a cooped-up situation.
One more thing – the graph where China curves over:comment image
Not so sure those China numbers aren’t LIES.

Gudthots

As others have pointed out.
China’s numbers are too tidy to be real.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The China numbers are hiding something, and that that is is going to be very interesting. Two possibilities:
(1) Raging out of control, and they are having a tough time putting out the fire.
(2) Not raging out of control, because of prior vaccination, rapid vaccination, or other tricks they’re not telling us about.
My money goes with the idea that they had on hand MULTIPLE experimental and clinically proven SARS vaccines that they know work on this particular bio-agent, and they used them (basically tested them at some level) as part of the response.

Gudthots

From ozzy post:
Aanvals_Kanon @Aanvals_Kanon
I don’t know… you don’t think China is lying to us, do you?

Another major mobile phone carrier, China Unicom, lost 1 million users in Jan.
China Unicom’ Feb data not availablecomment image

wheatietoo

Kind of a strange video here…
There are guys in hazmat suits helping to offload the patient.
And there are guys without suits who are taking over…and the hazmat guys just stand around taking pictures.
https://twitter.com/ChristinePolon1/status/1240919337705193474?s=20
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Text from Lady War Anon:
I call BS. They have the head up on the guerney and have no idea how to transport someone?
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Text from ABC News:
FLOWN FOR TREATMENT: A Southern California resident infected with COVID-19 arrived at LAX on a private air-ambulance from Aruba, with staff in full biohazard protective gear.
The patient was transported to an isolation chamber in Orange County.

Concerned Virginian

My opinion: Either BOTH the HazMat and the “other” medical crews are Keystone Kops ignorant — or the thing was staged (and not done very well in that, too).
And why would the HazMat crew record the event? Required by the air ambulance company?

wheatietoo

Has anyone heard or read anything about ‘Type O Blood’?
I saw a little blurb on Fox about it…and I think they said that people with type O blood seem to be immune to this ChiCom-19 virus.
Haven’t seen anything else about it, though.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

What I heard was that Type A has it worse.
I almost can’t imagine full immunity for any particular type. That would be REALLY surprising.

Deplorable Patriot

I agree. Any time I hear blood type as an indicator, my BS meter goes up. In the seven people in my immediate family, there are three different types, if you count Rh, and it NEVER made a difference.

bakocarl

. . . and that type O has it much better, but not immune.

GA/FL

One or more studies say type A is at slightly greater risk, type O seems to have lower incidence of coronavirus.
Here are some sources:
https://heavy.com/news/2020/03/coronavirus-blood-type-type-a-type-o/
https://nypost.com/2020/03/17/people-with-blood-type-a-might-be-more-susceptible-to-coronavirus-study-finds/

Deplorable Patriot

If they’re going on numbers of people who have one type or another…O+ is the most prevalent type. A+ & – are not all that many among the population which is why blood donors who have the type are CONSTANTLY on call. We all had to be typed when we were born because of our mom’s type, and this came up.

GA/FL

Good points. You worked at a blood clinic didn’t you?

Deplorable Patriot

No. I temped at the Red Cross in Donor Services which arranges the blood drives. I learned A LOT about it all while I was there, though.
No one would ever mistake me for a Florence Nightingale, that’s for sure. I can do a lot of at home care, but not the hard core stuff.

singingsoul1

My husband is type O and when I got sick in mid December he only had a light touch of the virus (flu).
So many of his students were sick and lasted 5 weeks they said. They had never had the flu so bad as this year.

wheatietoo

ChiCom gaslighting.
They get away with it in China…but it’s too late here, for them to get away with this bullshit.
“Donald Trump don’t trust China. China is asshoe!”
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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Damn right. We’re not putting up with this shit any more.
I. WATCHED. THOSE FUCKERS. Take over American science. What we didn’t realize is that they did it to force that global warming bullshit down our throats. Fucking ALIEN FACE HUGGERS.
No – no more of their BULLSHIT.
People want to know how the Climate Hoax worked – oh, they got INSIDE and OWNED THE PUBS.
Some very bad stuff. Now that it’s coming to an end, people will understand.
Look at how they OWNED the head of the chemistry department at Harvard. That was the RULE, not the exception. They owned whatever they could.

wheatietoo

Yep.
They preyed on our free market system of capitalism and used it as a weapon against us.
😠🤬

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

China will try to win an UNDECLARED WAR FIRST.

GA/FL

Hyper aggressive, possessive, malevolent.
Look at the way they treated their own people in their time of need.

michaelh

Daughn that was beautiful.
Ten years ago when I was in academia the convo about the quality of students was a hot topic among faculty. They would discuss open the problems they were encountering.
It wasn’t just a certain nationality, it was across the board. The American students were being drug down by a terrible public school education, low expectations driven poor work ethic, entitlement, and cheating.
But you were still more likely to find Americans – of all ethnicities! – more willing to work. I had a couple of friends, she was actually from a Chinese immigrant family but she was very Americanized, they met in the engineering program and were both unusually good engineers with a strong work ethic. Now deep in very successful engineering careers. The best engineers in my experience were former U.S. military, but also international students from the African nations, they were incredibly hard working and motivated.

Teagan

Great story…did they keep in touch?

wheatietoo

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GA/FL

This is EXCELLENT – by National Geographic – using CDC – WHO statistics

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

“HE KNOWS, KRISTEN! HE KNOWS!………….BOO!!!”

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This is an old one from Feb 1, but it’s a great reminder of HIV-based modifications in the “novel” coronavirus, which the ChiCom trolls, bots, and media people are definitely trying to make us forget.
https://twitter.com/RLemons94/status/1223827465656623105

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

michaelh

Every dirty trick to weaken us.
What are the odds of opioid abuse & fentanyl correlation with negative outcomes with CV?
Or use of same as a pain treatment for CV leading to addiction?

GA/FL

The Florida Department of Health Coronavirus page now also gives national and global stats! They have done a great job with that page making revisions as the situation changed.
https://fdoh.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/8d0de33f260d444c852a615dc7837c86
The FL DOH page also tells whether the cases were travel related in each county if you click on the County on the right side of the page, then click Florida Testing and Florida at the bottom, then click on the county on the map.
All four of the Leon County cases were travel related. It will be a week or so before we see if and how much these people have spread the virus to their families or the community.
As I said yesterday, the death rate between FL and GA was very different because of the number of travel related cases, the elderly retirement age population in FL. GA had one death per 197 cases, FL had one death per 41 cases. I have not checked today’s data yet.
In GA, the earliest outbreak centered around air travel and in FL, it was the cruise line travelers, cruise ports and industry.
Over the US – it has been the most Democrat sanctuary cities/states harboring illegals and cruise line ports of call + elders in fragile health, that had the earliest outbreaks.
REMEMBER – illegals in the US are not primarily or exclusively Mexican or Central American – CHINESE, Islamists and Cubans are among the largest groups!

GA/FL

OH yeah – IF my theory is correct (and the stats seem to indicate this is the case), that the Cruise lines were employing, harboring and/or smuggling illegals – particularly Chinese illegals….
Then you can bet our shrewd President Trump knows it and has let them know he knows it…
and if so, PDJT has caught the Cruise lines red-handed!

GA/FL

OK – it’s not a theory, it’s a SUSPICION.comment image

michaelh

SUSPICIOUS CAT. The only cat I like 😉

GA/FL

POLLEN COUNT remains very HIGH in the deep south and can trigger respiratory distress symptoms and infections!
Check your for your area here – https://www.pollen.com/

Teagan

It’s bad here in western SC…and looking at the pine trees it’s far from over. A torrential rainfall would be helpful right now.

GA/FL

Columbia SC is listed as one of the nations worst pollen cities right now – https://www.pollen.com/forecast/current/pollen/29201

GA/FL

Was so impressed with the FL DOH website that I wrote them:
“Please thank your web designers for doing such a great job!!!
As the COVID-19 pages have evolved, each revision has been clear and readable, delivered much needed information for FL families!
Thank you all for your dedication and skill in keeping FL safe and healthy!”

They responded rapidly:
“Thank you for the positive feedback!
The Covid-19 Response Team at the Florida Department of Health continues to make improvements to the website and resources so individuals can access the best and most up-to-date resource for information and guidance​ regarding COVID-19 in Florida.
Please continue to visit the Department’s dedicated COVID-19 webpage at  http://www.FloridaHealth.gov/COVID-19.  This remains the best and most up-to-date resource for information and guidance regarding COVID-19 in Florida.

You may also visit CDC’s website for more information regarding COVID-19 at https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/

The Call Center can be reached by calling 1-866-779-6121 or emailing  COVID-19@flhealth.gov  and is available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
COVID-19 Call Center”

bakocarl

r/China_Flu
•Posted byu/yarpoo
11 hours ago
A Dutch scientist of the University of Groningen created hydroxychloroquine in aerosol form and it will be available within weeks. It instantly reaches the lungs to directly block the negative effects of COVID-19, even better than HCQ in oral form.

GA/FL

Got a link?

GA/FL
bakocarl

*

Blame China: Beijing is successfully avoiding culpability for its role in spreading the coronavirus: Opinion
by u/johnruby in China_Flu

HumbrolUser
18 hours ago
What does cloraquine do?
Stopping virus replication?
Forest_GS
18 hours ago
It does stop replication.

tdavis25
17 hours ago
More precisely, it prevents RNA viruses from entering cells by increasing intra-cellular zinc. Per wikipedia:
Chloroquine also seems to act as a zinc ionophore, thereby allowing extra cellular zinc to enter inside the cell and inhibit viral RNA dependant RNA polymerase. This could be the potential mechanism of action of chloroquine against COVID-19.
PlacatedAlpaca
edited 5 hours ago
Slightly incorrect. As per your quote, Zinc inhibits viral replication, but only once the virus has entered the cell. But this is only one possible mechanism. Other mechanisms of chloroquine include
Directly inhibits virus replication by altering the pH of endosomes and causing the virus to fail to reach the cell’s cytoplasm.
Suppresses cytokine storm (it’s used to treat auto-immune diseases)
Inhibits proper glycosylation of ACE2 so the virus has fewer receptors it can use to enter the cell.
bluesektor
14 hours ago
Shouldn’t they be looking at hydroxychloroquine? I read that it is the more correct one to use, it’s less toxic and it transfers the zinc to the lungs. Where as chloroquine does not(?)
Edit: https://techstartups.com/2020/03/18/hydroxychloroquine-found-potent-chloroquine-vitro-treatment-coronavirus-sars-cov-2-new-study-published-nih-shows/

bakocarl

Hydroxychloroquine is found to be more effective and potent than chloroquine in vitro treatment of coronavirus, new study published by NIH shows
RESULTS:
Hydroxychloroquine (EC50=0.72 μM) was found to be more potent than chloroquine (EC50=5.47 μM) in vitro. Based on PBPK models results, a loading dose of 400 mg twice daily of hydroxychloroquine sulfate given orally, followed by a maintenance dose of 200 mg given twice daily for 4 days is recommended for SARS-CoV-2 infection, as it reached three times the potency of chloroquine phosphate when given 500 mg twice daily 5 days in advance.
CONCLUSIONS:
Hydroxychloroquine was found to be more potent than chloroquine to inhibit SARS-CoV-2 in vitro.
*https://techstartups.com/2020/03/18/hydroxychloroquine-found-potent-chloroquine-vitro-treatment-coronavirus-sars-cov-2-new-study-published-nih-shows/

GA/FL
coosmama

Plaquenil has worked on SARS, known since 2005. Interesting that this is filed under “Politics”, and not “Health”.
Chloroquine Known as Effective Against Coronavirus Since 2005
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/19/chloroquine-known-as-effective-against-coronavirus-since-2005/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Dora

Hmmm. I wonder why.
===
Coronavirus Triggers ‘Unprecedented Surge’ In Gun Sales
https://patch.com/new-york/riverhead/coronavirus-triggers-unprecedented-surge-gun-sales

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Everybody is training for the future jobs in Toilet Paper Armored Cars.

MAGA Mom

In addition to the pandemic and shortages induced additional crime that could come should supply chains be disrupted (and they do not look like they will be, thankfully) they are releasing criminals from jail and telling criminals they will not arrest them! That is Crazy! yes, I understand people who have never owned a gun deciding they need one!

michaelh

Yeah as if it isn’t obvious.
Ramp up PANIC levels in population.
Trigger desperation in the public.
A large part of the public KNOWS and sees what’s coming.
Good people don’t want to be caught defenseless.
Radical leftists want to ensure they are defenseless. Ordinary civilians can be TANGO’ized by criminals, criminal gangs (MS-13), and eventually by an over-reacting police+swat+mil to “keep the peace” caused by intentional lawlessness.
(It is a pipe dream – many of the people called upon are well aware of the unconstitutional lawlessness of the plan and won’t go along with it.)
I’m confident that Virginia’s reason was to prep the ground ahead of this, literally on the doorstep of Washington D.C.

bakocarl

High Temperature and High Humidity Reduce the Transmission of COVID-19
Abstract
This paper investigates how air temperature and humidity influence the transmission of COVID-19. After estimating the serial interval of COVID-19 from 105 pairs of the virus carrier and the infected, we calculate the daily effective reproductive number, R, for each of all 100 Chinese cities with more than 40 cases. Using the daily R values from January 21 to 23, 2020 as proxies of non-intervened transmission intensity, we find, under a linear regression framework for 100 Chinese cities, high temperature and high relative humidity significantly reduce the transmission of COVID-19, respectively, even after controlling for population density and GDP per capita of cities. One degree Celsius increase in temperature and one percent increase in relative humidity lower R by 0.0383 and 0.0224, respectively. This result is consistent with the fact that the high temperature and high humidity significantly reduce the transmission of influenza. It indicates that the arrival of summer and rainy season in the northern hemisphere can effectively reduce the transmission of the COVID-19.
*https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3551767

GA/FL

Here is a NLM study with more studies on this topic in the right column.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3265313/
Not absolutely conclusive yet.
However – it’s going to be wet/humid and warm in N FL this week – we shall see if it slows ‘community spread’!

Dora

CORONAVIRUSItalian Virologist Says Concerns Over “Racism” Crippled Italy’s Coronavirus Response
Political correctness proves deadly yet again.
https://summit.news/2020/03/20/italian-virologist-says-concerns-over-racism-crippled-italys-coronavirus-response/

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

PC will kill you.
Macs not much better.

michaelh

Yup it’s all Bill Gates fault.
And Tim Cook not much better with his China supply chain.

Dora

Terrifying footage inside Italy’s crisis wards shows coronavirus patients in bubble helmets struggling to breathe as doctors warn their best efforts are ‘not enough’ after fatalities soared by 475 to 3,405 – HIGHER even than China
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8131799/Italy-overtakes-China-country-coronavirus-deaths.html

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

That’s it. That was part of the justification used to sell this bio 9/11 to the participants. People were getting suspicious of vaccines. What sold vaccines when I was a kid? FEAR. Fear of polio. They needed a FEAR OP like polio. As I said before, this whole thing smells “straight outta Bilderberg”. I can even imagine Kludge King Bill Gates coming up with this crap.

MAGA Mom

I DO NOT want a rushed vaccine…or any vaccine…but can’t be a carrier
Been a concern since early on as we looked down the road a few months from our current crisis
Hope for green vaccine availability (no adjuncts, preservatives, etc.) from a trustworthy sources
Praying hard about this for ourselves and our child

michaelh

It was big and coordinated at many levels. This plan is at least two to three years in a full execution phase. Pre-planning definitely pre-dates that by a significant time period.
At some point it will be more obvious how the Paris Accord / Climate Crisis / Green New Deal intended to tie in. (Cue Gail in three, two, one . . .) THAT they tie in is already known and documented – the how’s and why’s AFAIK TBD.

michaelh

Add at least 10% to the poll #’s, maybe 20%

duchess01

Part 1: Dr. Abdu Sharkawy, Infectious Disease Specialist: Corona Virus: Concern Not Panic

duchess01

Part 2: Dr. Abdu Sharkawy, Infectious Disease Specialist: Corona Virus: Concern Not Panic

duchess01

Re-Tweeted by President Trump

duchess01

bakocarl

I read from an M.D. (cite?) that by the time you’ve got “Difficulty breathing, persistent pain or pressure in the chest, confusion, bluish lips or face”, you’ve got permanent lung damage.
Early testing, detection and treatment are key.

duchess01

Pretty much sums it up, carl – thought that was strange – one would think you would already be under MD’s supervision with those symptoms.

pgroup

Crap, you’re damn near dying if you’ve got all those. I have COPD and have NONE of these except periodic shortness of breath.
BTW, remember who had blue lips? Yeppers, it was the Kenyan. Haven’t seen a pic of him since he got his sorry ass out of our WH so don’t know if he still has ’em.

Gail Combs

That is why a month ago I got a Pulse Oximeter to measure my O2 levels & pulse. With asthma I am not taking chances.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Good – they’re emphasizing the shortness of breath. I got it about a week into the disease, but it did not progress to where I felt I needed to go into the doctor.
I noticed it when I was LAYING DOWN IN BED. When you’re out of breath due to no exertion, it’s a very weird feeling.
Coughing, clearing the lungs, breathing deeply, and changing my sleeping position relieved it sufficiently that I was satisfied and didn’t see the doc, who at the time would not have believed I got it anyway, due to the FAKE NEWS NARRATIVE OF BAT SOUP AND CRUISE SHIPS.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Fucking ChiComs. Every time I see that RAT BASTARD XI’S FACE I see these Nazis for what they really are.

michaelh

Right there with you.
100% tariffs on China, now.
Can you believe the seemingly infinite patience of POTUS?
He must be feeling very generous.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

“Beware that patient man, you evildoers!!!”

duchess01

Good Advice – Sent 20 Home Remedies to PR for shortness of breath – so there are other ways to relieve it, too – Good Job, Boss!!!

itswoot

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Alison
SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Hmm, that could explain a few things.
OK one way to control for this is to look at Indonesia.
Bali and points west (Java, Sumatra) do NOT have malaria. Anywhere east of Bali (Flores, Timor, Papua, and presumably Borneo, you’re recommended to take an anti-malarial. Yet it’s Indonesia, and the two areas will therefore have a lot of things in common.
Trivia: Java is the most highly populated island on earth (it beats out Honshu, the big island in Japan).

Alison

Thanks Steve. Always appreciate your input.

Dora

Palestinian Leaders Use Coronavirus to Attack Israel
FTA: For Palestinian leaders, it seems that the war on Israel is more important than the battle against a pandemic and saving the lives of their own people. Yet, these leaders and their families, if they are diagnosed with the disease, will undoubtedly be the first to rush to Israel to seek medical treatment there.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/15773/palestinian-leaders-coronavirus-israel#.XnSSB8c3lPQ.twitter

MAGA Mom

Ground report – some ICUs in hot spots filling. Report from a friend of a friend – no direct connection – Vandy ICU is full. Not all Nash ICUs are full to my knowledge but Nash has become a hot spot of outbreak. Most cases are 50 yrs and below.
Remember that it isn’t just the deaths its the high rate of complications that fill the hospitals and need help not to die that then snowballs into an overwhelmed medical system and affects the death rate from this virus as people who have complications but would otherwise live with medical treatment die due to lack of medical treatment + the other people from all other conditions don’t get medical treatment as the hospitals are overwhelmed with Wuhan complications cases.
Got to go as just finished cooking Bub his breakfast and I still love to read aloud to him or I would clean up that sentence! 🙂
But the thought is Slow the Spread or our medical systems Will overload, deaths from the virus and all other causes will spike!

Deplorable Patriot

The thing to remember about Nashville/Memphis is because of the weather in that specific part of the country there are fewer delays there than in other places, so Tennessee is a transportation hub to an extent, especially for FedEx. That is literally why they are in Tennessee.
I’m glad Vandy is there. There’s far worse places to be when it comes to medicine. My uncle chose Vanderbilt for his fellowship when he finished residency, although it was in a different specialty.

GA/FL
GA/FL

Japanese drug not effective in advanced severe cases: “Fujifilm Toyama Chemical, which developed the drug – also known as Avigan – in 2014, has declined to comment on the claims.
Shares in the firm surged on Wednesday following Zhang’s comments, closing the morning up 14.7% at 5,207 yen, having briefly hit their daily limit high of 5,238 yen.
Doctors in Japan are using the same drug in clinical studies on coronavirus patients with mild to moderate symptoms, hoping it will prevent the virus from multiplying in patients.
But a Japanese health ministry source suggested the drug was not as effective in people with more severe symptoms. “We’ve given Avigan to 70 to 80 people, but it doesn’t seem to work that well when the virus has already multiplied,” the source told the Mainichi Shimbun.
The same limitations had been identified in studies involving coronavirus patients using a combination of the HIV antiretrovirals lopinavir and ritonavir, the source added.
In 2016, the Japanese government supplied favipiravir as an emergency aid to counter the Ebola virus outbreak in Guinea.
Favipiravir would need government approval for full-scale use on Covid-19 patients, since it was originally intended to treat flu.
A health official told the Mainichi the drug could be approved as early as May. “But if the results of clinical research are delayed, approval could also be delayed.”

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

It’s time to STOP LISTENING TO CHINA.

BlackKnightRides

Pesavento misses the point:
The GOVERNORS are forcing the state-wide Shelter-in-Place.
Demo☭rat Governors … so far.
Infected States: 16 of the top 20 run by Demo☭rats.
🤔 Coincidence or Pattern?

michaelh

Thanks Alex. I’ll take Democrat Dirty Rotten Tricks for a thousand.
These groups ostensibly organize government workers for better pay and conditions, but in fact become political lobbying arms that control elections and politicians.
What are public unions?
That’s correct.

kea

So one of the music stations is playing Christmas music… This is NOT helping my nerves lol

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Dies Irae would be worse.

Deplorable Patriot

Tempting…. 😉

MAGA Mom

Watching the Press Conference. Pompeo is so fantastic to the fake news and nasty press.

NYGuy

70 degrees here today.

Deplorable Patriot

It was that warm here yesterday. Today in the 40s. Spring. Go figure. 😉

kalbokalbs

Started low 20s. A balmy 52 at the moment. As good as it’ll get today. Better than it has been. 🙂

Gail Combs

I am dying of the heat! It is 86F today up from 50s for the last week or so. AND very windy — ACHOO!
Seems every tree is in bloom! They are all dusted with pale yellows, pinks, reds and whites. Few are turning green yet.comment image

kalbokalbs

Trees are beautiful!

GA/FL

Gorgeous!
Can sympathize about the pollen and the heat.
You can almost see the pollen in the air around here! Wore a serious mask (had bought them years ago due to dust/allergy causing me to get awful respiratory infection) to do yard work yesterday. But that didn’t help with the heat/humidity – nearly 88F!
To check pollen level your area: https://www.pollen.com/

Gail Combs

Thanks mid NC is HIGH, not surprising.
It really is beautiful this time of year with all the trees dusted with pale colors and then turning to pale greens against the dark green of the pines. You really can’t take a picture because the colors are too delicate.
This is a close-up of the type of flowers (red maple)comment image
Another maplecomment image

Marica

Sliding on down to deliver my Walmart run today!
Today’s Ground Report!!! Walmart Run…Not too crowded…I asked if they had TP as I entered store! Nice Lady said there are still some if you go straight there! HA! …And I scored! Not Charmin but Scott–6 Pack! So I will Make it! About the time i plopped those in my basket with the crowd roaring in my head–teehee–My neighbor said she was sending TP delivery boy down…I then spy 4 T-bone steaks! 2 for her 2 for me! Tomorrow nite is Steak Nite!!
Even some fresh Salmon!!!! that’s tonite!!
I found frozen hamburger patties–No Ground beef! Wanted a whole chicken to make soup–found a bag of legs and thighs AND….scored…A Rotisserrie Chicken! Found Bread and buns! Chicken noodle soup and even some bone broth! Picked up some cleaning supplies!!!
I feel like a real accomplishment!!!!! WOOHOO!!!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

LOL!!!
I fortunately bought enough food to get through a two week quarantine about three weeks ago; I could see the potential for such an event back then.
Though I’ll still go to Walmart and get some of whatever they have, just to avoid digging into the “stash” before that happens.

Marica

I could have made it without the run today! But the weather is so nice and I was…..”feeling Lucky”!!!😜😎🤸‍♀️

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

We’re all getting a very small taste of what it was like to shop in the Soviet Union.
The stores were out of a lot of things, but every once in a while, something people hadn’t seen in a long time would show up and a long line would form.

Deplorable Patriot

The grocery store at the bottom of the hill gives me that on a regular basis. If I want “my” yogurt and a few other things, I have to go three miles south.

michaelh

“something people hadn’t seen in a long time would show up and a long line would form”
You mean like milk?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Or whatever.
Toilet paper was totally unknown in the USSR. They’d cut up old Pravdas and use that. Literally. (We joke about doing that with the New York Times…)

Gail Combs

That was what the Sears catalog was for…
http://www.ptcnet.net/breyer/ASIs%20outhouse.jpg
AND WHY you teach you horse to TIE!
(My off the track thoroughbred didn’t tie and no one would hold him for me… Since then ALL my horses have tied!)

BlackKnightRides

Guess what happens when you Cuddle with a ChiCom…comment image?resize=438%2C438
EDIT BY WOLF – I cut off the part after .jpg and this results – friendly tip!comment image

Chris

.. be a real shame if that went Viral..
all over the world

kalbokalbs

Ground report.
Dayton, NV. Smith’s supermarket started geezer shopping 7 AM – 8 AM today. Arrived 6:50. Long line. Easily over one hundred. Come to find out, NV is full of geezers 🙂 As I walk by front door, heading to end of the line, nice Smith’s employee pops out to give a status of sorts. No deliveries overnight. No paper products. Bread delivery had not arrived, but would. Rest of store pretty well stocked. They let folks start trickling in at 7 AM. Hmmmm. trickle in. Very long line. Not for me today.
Carson City 20 miles west. Off limits for me at this point…
Drove 50 miles east to Fallon, NV. Walmart.
– Did a walk about the store while better half shopped. Vitmins, OTC well picked over as were soaps, shampoo… Very few in household goods, hardware, sporting, clothes areas. early none.
– Grocery side. No TP. minimal paper towels. All other areas really picked over or bare. Generally could get anything we wanted so long as we were OK with whatever brand or size was on the shelf.
– Folks upbeat, friendly, doing the social distancing thing. One guy wearing a N95…incorrectly…loosely… One guy wearing nitrile gloves.
– Not crowded, but lots of shoppers. About half carts full. Others folks just topping off as we were.
Only one Grinch. Got a coffee at McDougal’s. Gal at the counter whining about a guy who yesterday, a handicapped guy at that, had insisted on sitting at a table for a few minutes. Gal whined she was risking her life working and could have gone to jail if the wrong person had walked by McDs at that moment. Bid her a nice day and things really will be OK.
Temps have climbed to 54. So, its off to a brisk walk. G’Day folks.

bakocarl

Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) appears to be a really effective anti-viral for WuFlu.
People are now dying of WuFlu (or complications) at a 500 per day rate in Italy.
Has anyone here read reports of HCQ being liberally dispensed in Italy? I would think Italy would be a great place to deploy HCQ.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yeah, but the only cure for FUTURE outbreaks is to give China a choice. Get rid of the evil CCP, or go back to low-technology HELL.

Concerned Virginian

NORTH CAROLINA:
http://www.newsobserver.com/
March 20
North Carolina now has a total of 167 confirmed cases of the Wuhan Coronavirus.
Counties with the highest concentrations:
MECKLENBURG (Charlottes NC): 43
DURHAM (Duke University): 35, of which 24 are connected with Duke.
WAKE (Raleigh): 25, most of which are connected with attendees of the BIOGEN conference in Boston, MA in late February.
NOW — COMING TO A NEIGHBORHOOD NEAR YOU:
JAILS in the Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill area, PLUS jails in the Mecklenburg area, are RELEASING INMATES.
Wake County is now looking into doing the same.
It appears that the criteria for releasing inmates revolves around their “possible exposure” to the virus while in jail.
It appears that the criteria also includes whether or not the inmate was convicted of a violent crime: non-violent criminals are being released.
I cannot find NOT ONE WORD about whether or not the released inmates will be required to wear some type of MONITORING EQUIPMENT.
It appears that this decision is in response to letters from the ACLU to the District Attorneys of Wake, Durham, Orange (Chapel Hill), and Mecklenburg counties.

Gail Combs

This has a map of the counties in NC and the number of cases:
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/coronavirus/article241329066.html
It is interactive so I can not post the image.

GA/FL

POWER OF SOCIAL DISTANCING!
It really works!!!
https://twitter.com/KactusRod/status/1241066590562586625

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Just remember – if we had left the ChiComs to fester under low-technology Maoist CRAP, and not FALLEN for their “help us modernize” schtick (and they lured all the right people into their scheme FIRST – COUGH, COUGH), we would not have this crap.
LIFTING THE CHINAZIS OUT OF THE LOW-TECH HELL OF THEIR OWN MAKING WAS A MISTAKE.

Cornered Opposition: Understanding The History of Dragon Fuckage with The Eagle

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If you want to play in the big leagues, you have to know what strategies the other side plays TIME and TIME and TIME again. COUGH. Knowing that the FAKE NEWS is actually on China’s side helps. Knowing that the FAKE NEWS has been there a LONG, LONG TIME helps even more. Playing long ball …

https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/08/24/cornered-opposition-understanding-the-history-of-dragon-fuckage-with-the-eagle/

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

My shortness of breath is particularly annoying today, so I’m PISSED AT THE CHINAZIS.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

This is the Q tree. It’s no place for fence sitting. Tell us what you really think!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Working on it! 😀

michaelh

Just keep in mind the source – Sen. Cornyn, part of the Senate Committee on Trade Graft and Corruption.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yeah – I saw that immediately – YUUUUUGE eye-roll.
However, he’s the first to identify the SARS symptom as KEY.
We need to bring back those “Don’t Spit On the Sidewalk” bricks.
When I cough up the crap from this, it’s very weird. Kind of glistens and has small bubbles, and strange surfactant behavior in the sink – its very much like a SOAP.

Chris

Sounds like build up, aeration ,
See video wheatie posted above
Hope it’s not another round
extra prayers sent for you Wolf and All treeps
Nazi’s will wear extermination camps forever
Chicom’s will wear bio-warfare against humanity forever
redemption/forgiveness has no price tag for purchase by anyone.
Chinese isolation, world condemnation, neck-millstone starvation .revolution
what goes around , comes around

duchess01

Prestigious vaccine journal: Flu vaccine increases coronavirus infection risk 36%
March 20, 2020
from Natural News
https://www.sgtreport.com/2020/03/prestigious-vaccine-journal-flu-vaccine-increases-coronavirus-infection-risk-36/
A new study published in the prestigious journal Vaccine, a peer-reviewed medical journal, published by Elsevier, titled Influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017-2018 influenza season, reveals that influenza vaccination may increase the risk of infection from other respiratory viruses — a phenomenon known as virus interference.
(Article by GMI Reporter republished from GreenMedInfo.com)

GA/FL

Here it is from NIH/NLM/Pub Med:
FLU SHOT INCREASED RISK OF CORONAVIRUS
“Study of flu vaccine and its effect on incidence of viral respiratory illness.”
Vaccine. 2020 Jan 10;38(2):350-354. doi: 10.1016/j.vaccine.2019.10.005. Epub 2019 Oct 10.
Abstract
PURPOSE:
Receiving influenza vaccination may increase the risk of other respiratory viruses, a phenomenon known as virus interference. Test-negative study designs are often utilized to calculate influenza vaccine effectiveness. The virus interference phenomenon goes against the basic assumption of the test-negative vaccine effectiveness study that vaccination does not change the risk of infection with other respiratory illness, thus potentially biasing vaccine effectiveness results in the positive direction. This study aimed to investigate virus interference by comparing respiratory virus status among Department of Defense personnel based on their influenza vaccination status. Furthermore, individual respiratory viruses and their association with influenza vaccination were examined.
RESULTS:
We compared vaccination status of 2880 people with non-influenza respiratory viruses to 3240 people with pan-negative results. Comparing vaccinated to non-vaccinated patients, the adjusted odds ratio for non-flu viruses was 0.97 (95% confidence interval (CI): 0.86, 1.09; p = 0.60). Additionally, the vaccination status of 3349 cases of influenza were compared to three different control groups: all controls (N = 6120), non-influenza positive controls (N = 2880), and pan-negative controls (N = 3240). The adjusted ORs for the comparisons among the three control groups did not vary much (range: 0.46-0.51).
CONCLUSIONS:
Influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017-2018 influenza season.
Receipt of influenza vaccination was not associated with virus interference among our population. Examining virus interference by specific respiratory viruses showed mixed results. Vaccine derived virus interference was significantly associated with coronavirus and human metapneumovirus; however, significant protection with vaccination was associated not only with most influenza viruses, but also parainfluenza, RSV, and non-influenza virus coinfections.”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31607599

duchess01

If they are injecting a live virus, then I believe there will be interference whether or not they choose to report it – putting foreign agents in one’s body – is not my idea of protection – just like allowing foreign agents to enter our country – take jobs in prominent industries – and steal our intellectual property is not my idea of protecting our interests against foreign interference.

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

This is exactly what I was musing about this morning. Could the cv be purposely designed to hit hardest those who have gotten flu shots? That would explain the elderly populaton’s high death rate. Our seniors are trained to get flu and pneumonia shots every year.

Volgarian8301

As well as healthcare workers 😳

duchess01

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

They did worse than LIE. The CRIMINAL CCP covered up an ATTACK using their own people.
The CCP are basically a cabal of Argentine generals with a bloody virus.

duchess01

Argentine Generals? I think they just about cooked their own goose – the whole world was watching as they perpetrated this fraud on every nation – it will be difficult for them to do business anywhere in the world – they will not be trusted.
Trump wanted to convince US companies to move elsewhere – or come home – he now rests his case!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Oh, I do not even trust ANY ChiCom or DS asset at this point. I skated past a lot of their BS in the past, but this stuff reminds me. Scar on the inside.
Get ’em out.

duchess01

You are not alone in that respect – not only have they stolen our technology, intellectual property, manufacturing, and auto parts businesses – stupid politicians sold us out to enrich them to the point where they are the new world power –
Trump has known this for many years – he wants to not only recoup what they have stolen – but also jail those who have enabled them to do so – we need to deport all ChiCom students, reporters, and shut down organizations that sympathize with the mainland – head ’em up and move ’em out!

Gail Combs

THAT includes our traitorous Universities!
I got in the mail an Alumni Oral History postcard asking me to share my story to ‘ensure the preservation of the rich history’ of my university. Well they partner with a CHINESE UNIVERSITY. So I called and gave them an earful. The lady said well I am just the publisher. I replied, you wanted my story? Well there you have it. I am ASHAMED to be associated with a treasonous university that aligns with Communist China. PRINT THAT!

duchess01

Whoa, Gail! Poor lady! You were definitely talking to the wrong person – she was just the data clerk – get that President on the line – and give him what for!!!
Besides, they don’t really care – the only reason they contact Alumni is to solicit funds – I put their wasteful paper platitudes in the circular file.

michaelh

FOIA their alumni list and send them all letters letting them know! 🙂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I agree – but I just say TRUST THE PLAN on who to deport and who is OK. They will know who can be trusted and who can’t, and they will understand WHEN to take action. It is a tough problem – I know because I’ve given it a lot of thought since I was a child, exposed to so many stories of life under Hitler, and living in a still-post-war environment, where suspicions still lingered.
The idiot ChiCom press is pushing a CCP-protecting meme (“Oh, NOES, if we say ‘China Virus’, all Asian Americans will DIE of racism!”), but there is some truth at the bottom that our wicked CHICOM-SYMP FAKE NEWS will weaponize. We will see CCP hoaxes, too – self-attacks by CCP assets – GET READY FOR IT.
German Americans and Japanese Americans went through this crap back in WWII. If one is not a lightweight, it builds character. There are many LOYAL AMERICAN Chinese, both immigrants and descendants, but there are plenty of CCP supporters, assets, and actual spies in the mix. They use the innocents for cover.
THEY NEED TO BE GONE. Wray has been working on it BIG-TIME. THOUSANDS of active cases.

duchess01

Well – that explains many conundrums – most do not have your experience to know the difference – however – I trust there are less than 10 who do know – we have a very powerful group who have been waiting many years to execute THE PLAN and bring its rewards to fruition.
We can say the same about those who call themselves Americans – we are so attached to their global adversaries who paid them handsomely to betray their country – so yes – we are talking about the ‘party’ faithful (CCP) who think nothing of killing innocents to remain in power – isn’t that what communists do?
I am thrilled to hear Wray has been working on it – after all – Q said – Trust Wray – and many attacked him – claiming he was doing nothing – much the same as they attacked Sessions claiming he was doing nothing.
Dave of X22 Report thinks something is coming next week – we all could be quarantined for protection – and ease of operation. Please listen to what he says – it makes sense.
Thanks for your analysis. I respect your perspective.

MAGA Mom

Washington (state) stats as of yesterday.
Wish we knew the rate of complications/hospitalizations of each age group as well.
Ages 0-39 yrs: 0 deaths
Confirmed Cases / Deaths by Age
Age Group Percent of Cases Percent of Deaths
<19 2% 0%
20-29 8% 0%
30-39 13% 0%
40-49 14% 3%
50-59 16% 5%
60-69 16% 8%
70-79 15% 26%
80+ 16% 59%
interesting that Females in are having a higher mortality rate than men. Because more of the older group are females? Females are 51% of the cases but 59% of the deaths. I am guess because the females are overrepresented in the 80+ category.
https://www.doh.wa.gov/Emergencies/Coronavirus

Valerie Curren

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This is an amazing point about how POLITICS can affect science, and TRUST ME – the ChiComs KNEW THIS when they created the GLOBAL WARMING SCAM.

michaelh

Global Warming scam to decimate U.S. and European manufacturing and move it all to China.
One belt one road, all lead to the same place

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

One belt around the neck, one road to hell.

Gail Combs

Yes, Universities Discriminate Against Conservatives
“Why are there so few conservative professors in American higher education? …There is rampant discrimination in higher education, and it’s not against minorities — indeed, universities often violate state and federal law and their own policies…It’s against conservatives.”

…in my experience, no search committee has ever been instructed to increase political or ideological diversity. On the contrary, I have been involved in searches in which the chairman of the selection committee stated that no libertarian candidates would be considered. Or the description of the position was changed when the best résumés appeared to be coming from applicants with right-of-center viewpoints. Or in which candidates were dismissed because of their association with conservative or libertarian institutions.

“The result is an academic world that is staggeringly one-sided:”

According to data compiled by the Higher Education Research Institute, only 12% of university faculty identify as politically right of center, and these are mainly professors in schools of engineering and other professional schools. Only 5% of professors in the humanities and social-science departments so identify.
A comprehensive study by James Lindgren of Northwestern University Law School shows that in a country fairly evenly divided between Democrats and Republicans, only 13% of law professors identify as Republican. And a recent study by Jonathan Haidt of New York University showed that 96% of social psychologists identify as left of center, 3.7% as centrist/moderate and only 0.03% as right of center.

“One can learn a lot about an institution by examining where it is willing to test the limits. American universities test the legal limits to admit ever-more liberal minorities while it tests (and exceeds) the legal limits in its quest to exclude conservatives….”

Valerie Curren

Yes!

duchess01

CA Governor Issues State-Wide “Stay At Home” Order, Warns 56% Of Residents Will Be Infected: Live Updates
March 20, 2020
rom ZeroHedge
https://www.sgtreport.com/2020/03/ca-governor-issues-state-wide-stay-at-home-order-warns-56-of-residents-will-be-infected-live-updates/
Summary:
Coronavirus death toll in Italy surpasses China
Confirmed cases in the US double in two days
Mnuchin says wants to get checks in Americans’ hands within 3 weeks
CA Governor issues state-wide ‘stay at home’ order
UK nears 3k cases
BoE cuts rates, launches QE after ’emergency’ meeting
Confirmed cases in the US climbs ~50% as testing ramps up
Carnival confirms it will lend government ships for virus response
Connecticut reports 2nd death as US death toll hits 137
Cuomo reports nearly 2k new cases, bringing NY total north of 4k
Covid-19 ‘cluster’ confirmed in South Brooklyn
Republican Senators introduce $1 trillion aid package
Minnesota designates grocery workers as ‘essential employees’, giving them access to child care
Total number of Covid-19 cases passes 10k
Cuomo signs NY unemployment-benefit expansion benefit package, warns of ‘astronomical jump’ in cases
China reports zero new cases in Wuhan for first time in months.
Treasury weighing 50- and 25-year bonds to finance stimulus package
South Africa case total passes 150
India halts incoming international flights for a week
Hong Kong doctors find virus inside 2nd dog
Spain total cases climb 28% overnight
Italian death toll expected to pass China’s on Thursday
Pentagon says 2,000 nat’l guardsman deployed around the country
NY implements 90-day delay on mortgage payments due to hardship
FedEx says drop in deliveries in China was smaller than expected
Trump and Xi reportedly agree to deepen medical research ties
State Department advises Americans not to travel abroad
UK gov’t denies plans for London lockdown
Amazon closes warehouse for ‘deep clean’ after worker tests positive
2 Lakers players test positive
Germany death toll climbs to 43
Treatment trial in Wuhan yields disappointing results
Australia confirms 3 passengers, 1 crew test positive aboard Ruby Princess cruise ship
Germany’s Bafin bans short selling
Russia reports first death
SPR to buy 30 million barrels immediately, will eventually buy 70 million
Wuhan police erase record of ‘admonition’ delivered to Dr. Li Wenliang
German gov plans to suspend debt brake on Monday
Netherlands reports another jump in cases after unveiling stimulus package outline
Switzerland warns situation rapidly deteriorating along the Italian border
Tiffany closes all US stores

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

56% will get it.
Not 55%
Not 57%
But fifty six percent!!
I want his magic 8 ball, it seems to have better acuity than the one I had as a kid.

duchess01

Bill Gates Calls For National Tracking System For Coronavirus During Reddit AMA
March 20, 2020
by Matt Perez, Forbes
https://www.sgtreport.com/2020/03/bill-gates-calls-for-national-tracking-system-for-coronavirus-during-reddit-ama/

michaelh

Oh yes, thank you ever so much Mr. Gates. Where would we be without your prescient wisdom in this, our most desperate hour?

duchess01

No wonder he left Microsoft and Hathaway – he wanted to concentrate on world population control and killer vaccines – what a guy!!!

Gail Combs

I vote we use Bill Gates and his wife and the people at Microsop, Gargoyle, Twatter and Farcebook as human test subjects for the Chinese Commie Virus Vaccine!

duchess01

Nah – that won’t work – they will remove the pathogens and claim they are safe – I vote for the death penalty for killing and mutilating African children with their vaccines – and all others who have been vaccine damaged.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Oh, fuck you, Bill Gates! Your coronavirus exercise cover does not fool Wolf Moon for one second!
FUCK YOU, you evil bastard!
You promoted the work that seared my lungs, you fucker!
Take your I.G. Farben Microsoft and GO TO HELL!!!
Why in the FUCK do I want you giving MY DATA to your CHINESE COMMUNIST FRIENDS???
FUCK YOU, BILL GATES!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Sorry – I’m not keeping my cool very well. This afternoon I had to breathe through my mouth to talk on the phone. That was new. These bastards took 10 years off my life. And I consider myself LUCKY.

GA/FL

From the White House today:
Top health officials from the CDC and across the government are here to help:
🎬 Together apart: What is social distancing?

🎬 Dr. Deborah Birx: Who needs to be tested?

🎬 Surgeon General: Is it still safe to donate blood?

🎬 Dr. Anthony Fauci: What to do if you feel sick

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Good stuff – THANK YOU.

GA/FL

MOAR from the White House today!
Something to share: You make America great and proud. Thank you!
TEXT:
The White House @WhiteHouse
“Our doctors and nurses are on the front lines of this fight, treating patients and protecting public health from a little-known virus at great personal risk.
Our truckers are clocking endless hours on the road—with many restaurants and rest stops closed—to keep supplies on the shelf.
Everyday heroes are delivering meals to the elderly, keeping small businesses afloat & coming together as Americans to help each other through a time of hardship.
Thank you for your sacrifices. You make America great—and you will make America stronger than ever before.”

MAGA Mom

Reading this article at OT & SD is using info I find no where else:
“As Dr. Birx noted: the current negative test rate for coronavirus among those showing symptoms who are tested is 98 to 99 percent. That means of all the people taking coronavirus tests, 98/99 out of 100 are symptomatic (they are sick) but they are not infected with coronavirus. They are normal flu cases…. According to Dr. Birx and the test results 99 percent of those mitigation efforts are not engaging with coronavirus. They are dealing with regular flu (perhaps a strong flu)… What is stressing the system is a coronavirus mitigation effort with a rate of 99 percent testing negative.”
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/03/17/dr-faucis-mysterious-math-the-quantifying-today-reflects-where-we-were-a-week-ago-today-cannot-be-quantified-until-next-week/
I can not figure out where he is getting the 98-99% tests are negative. That is not what I find anywhere else. Everywhere I look I see a much higher rate of positive tests.
TN State Public Health Laboratory: 613 tests, 563 negative, 50 positive
(https://www.tn.gov/health/cedep/ncov.html)
FL: tested, 3,416, Negative 1,870, pending 1,026, positive 520
(https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429)
GA: tested 2,386, Positive 420
(https://dph.georgia.gov/covid-19-daily-status-report)
Washington: 19,336 negative tests/93% of tests & 1,376 Positive/7%
This is the state that seems to be doing the most widespread testing and they have ht highest rate of negatives. Most states seem to have been mostly testing those who really showed symptoms.
(https://www.doh.wa.gov/Emergencies/Coronavirus)
I can not find testing rates for NY or CA testing rates or total testing numbers or number of negatives.
Some of the negatives are surely for testing the some of the same people repeatedly as there are false negatives.
Even the # of tests on the CDC web site do not add up to a 99% negative rate
(https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/testing-in-us.html)
I don’t get it….where is this talking point coming from?
How many of the negatives are “false” negatives for a patient that later tests positive?
What is the average # of tests per patient?
How many of the negative tests are tests that are taken to determine a patient has recovered and is now “clear”?

GA/FL

MM – As I watched the daily task force briefings – in the earlier ones, they said 98% and more recently, the number went down to around 90%.

MAGA Mom

I have been watching them too but must have missed that (usually double tasking while listening).
Still have the questions about the testing – multiple tests per patient that get early false negatives and to clear those with previous illness & positive tests? More data about tests needed before judgement.
Also, widespread testing was what the press and “experts” are saying helped SK flatten their curve, testing widely to catch all positives as early as possible which means testing everyone the infected came in contact with regardless of symptoms.
I just don’t get the criticism and think more data is needed on who is being tested and how many of the negatives are tested again or to clear patients or…???

GA/FL

“how many of the negatives are tested again or to clear patients” – if the patient gets worse, likely they will check again. We may not ever know the number of folks tested multiple times.
They asked people with negative results to still abide by the guidelines in order to prevent CoV infection.

kalbokalbs

Playing catch up today.
While not NY, CA, WA…
IF I am reading NV dashboard correctly, ~5% are testing positive. 109 positive 1,992 negative. So, ~95% negative.
*https://app.powerbigov.us/view?r=eyJrIjoiMjA2ZThiOWUtM2FlNS00MGY5LWFmYjUtNmQwNTQ3Nzg5N2I2IiwidCI6ImU0YTM0MGU2LWI4OWUtNGU2OC04ZWFhLTE1NDRkMjcwMzk4MCJ9
As I understand it, it takes two, consecutive negatives, 24 hours apart to declare one recovered.
Admittedly, I may not be following everything posted above.

kea

MSM is happily pushing stock market down and unemployment claims rising… So nothing new there.
Once everything comes back well… 🙂

trumpismine

Linda

I seriously doubt China has been truthful about any of their numbers.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

They’re either lying about the numbers, or lying about a vaccine that they already had.
OR BOTH.

Gail Combs

This is the paper referred to on the previous page.
Looks like aerosols, aka breathing maybe more important than thought AND vaccination, at least for type A influenza increases instead of decreasing the possibility of transmission.
The association of vaccination and shedding was significant for influenza A
Infectious virus in exhaled breath of symptomatic seasonal influenza cases from a college community

Significance
Lack of human data on influenza virus aerosol shedding fuels debate over the importance of airborne transmission. We provide overwhelming evidence that humans generate infectious aerosols and quantitative data to improve mathematical models of transmission and public health interventions. We show that sneezing is rare and not important for—and that coughing is not required for—influenza virus aerosolization. Our findings, that upper and lower airway infection are independent and that fine-particle exhaled aerosols reflect infection in the lung, opened a pathway for a deeper understanding of the human biology of influenza infection and transmission. Our observation of an association between repeated vaccination and increased viral aerosol generation demonstrated the power of our method, but needs confirmation.
ABSTRACT
….We screened 355 symptomatic volunteers with acute respiratory illness and report 142 cases with confirmed influenza infection who provided 218 paired nasopharyngeal (NP) and 30-minute breath samples (coarse >5-µm and fine ≤5-µm fractions) on days 1–3 after symptom onset. We assessed viral RNA copy number for all samples and cultured NP swabs and fine aerosols. We recovered infectious virus from 52 (39%) of the fine aerosols and 150 (89%) of the NP swabs with valid cultures….
Fine- and coarse-aerosol viral RNA were positively associated with body mass index and number of coughs and negatively associated with increasing days since symptom onset in adjusted models. Fine-aerosol viral RNA was also positively associated with having influenza vaccination for both the current and prior season. NP swab viral RNA was positively associated with upper respiratory symptoms and negatively associated with age but was not significantly associated with fine- or coarse-aerosol viral RNA or their predictors. Sneezing was rare, and sneezing and coughing were not necessary for infectious aerosol generation….
Self-reported vaccination for the current season was associated with a trend (P < 0.10) toward higher viral shedding in fine-aerosol samples; vaccination with both the current and previous year’s seasonal vaccines, however, was significantly associated with greater fine-aerosol shedding in unadjusted and adjusted models (P  0.10). The association of vaccination and shedding was significant for influenza A (P = 0.03) but not for influenza B (P = 0.83) infections (Table S4).
Viral load in NP swabs was not a significant predictor of aerosol shedding (P = 0.16 for fine and P = 0.48 for coarse aerosols). Temperature measured at the time of sampling, asthma history, smoking, and influenza type were not significantly associated with the extent of measured shedding. While self-reported symptoms were not associated with aerosol shedding, they were significantly associated with shedding measured by the NP swab; only upper respiratory symptoms remained significant when adjusted for other symptoms and age. Increasing age was associated with a significant decrease in shedding in the NP swab; however, age was not associated with aerosol shedding….

GA/FL

Your link didn’t work – Here’s the NLM reference. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29348203

Gail Combs

Thanks for catching it! (I am in the middle of making eggplant lasagna for dinner.)
This is the version I quoted: https://www.pnas.org/content/115/5/1081

GA/FL

Perfect!!!

rf121

Still scheduled to work in Nashville area in two weeks. Checked their numbers of infected. Their highest infected age group is the 21-30 followed by the 31-40. Did not see any posted fatalities.
0-10 3
11-20 12
21-30 72
31-40 47
41-50 35
51-60 26
61-70 16
71-80 13
80+ 4

Gingersmom2009

I have questions that I have not been able to find answers to – anywhere. As of this moment, on the Johns Hopkins dashboard, we have 18,563 cases with 214 deaths and 147 listed as “recovered”. (quotes added because I find the stat odd) So right now, how many of the cases are hospitalized? How many are recovering at home under a doctor’s care? And most importantly how many of the hospital cases are occupying an ICU room? You would think, would you not, since the people in power declaring martial law lite keep citing “overrunning the number of hospital beds” as their reasoning – they’d be giving out stats to back it up. Has anyone seen this info, anywhere?

Gail Combs

Try this: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
USA
ACTIVE CASES 18,984
18,920 in Mild Condition
64 Serious or Critical
….
403 Cases which had an outcome
147 Recovered / Discharged
256 Deaths
>>>>>>
They also list by state.

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

That 64 number hasn’t changed for 3 days, I don’t trust it.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Smart!!! 😎

kalbokalbs

Ya. The serious / critical number is suspect across all sites with data. Rarely change.

kea
🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

Houston Mayor just held press conference to address rumors. Someone intentionally spreading in our area using social media and robocalls. They’ve launched investigation. Could be foreign actors. Also scammers are asking for your SSN so they can get your stimulus check to you.
Top National Guard general refutes nationwide coronavirus quarantine rumors
https://www.foxnews.com/us/national-guard-general-refutes-nationwide-quarantine-rumors

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

Well here it is. China stopped counting mild cases on January 29. If they have mild symptoms and test positive they don’t get counted. Only the 20% of serious/critical cases are added to the totals. 🤬
https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2020/03/20/china-stopped-counting-mild-coronavirus-cases-in-february/

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

That’s what I immediately thought when our sheriff said foreign actors. So they’re dong it country wide.
I’ve been shutting down CCP bots on twitter. Interesting to look at some of their accounts and a few follow (stalk) nothing but the top conservatives. They are definitely targeting Trump supporters. One of them had checked out my timeline and threw ‘my love for Trump’ back at me. Even scarier, it knew what city I was located in. That really freaked me out. That wasn’t just a paid person typing propaganda on a keyboard. That was someone w/sophisticated networking, internet tracking skills. F’n Evil Chicom Mother F’rs!!🤬

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This is very typical behavior of ChiSpies – they don’t waste time on the small fry, even as cover. They try to move up fast.
Are you on Gab chat yet? I just PMed you to test.

michaelh

Stick with what Wolfie tells you.
As far as the city, DON’T PANIC!!!
They LOVE to track the IP address to the city you are in.
Then they can freak you out that they know where you are logged in from!
It’s a dumb trick, but it works. I’ve seen it used since the late 90s.
If you are concerned, set up a VPN account.
See here for discussion: *https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/06/09/censorship/#comment-174417
FWIW, my IP address does not report the correct city I live in 😉 But a VPN is still good protection.

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

I was freaked for a day, then I realized they used my IP to get my city. I’ve since returned to piZZed.

michaelh

Good job! Don’t let the suckers win! 😉

Volgarian8301

Wish they’d ALL stop saying “our democracy”. That makes me nervous in the midst of all this….

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kalbokalbs

Cecelia Vega, if I got it right, is one obnoxious bitch. Her questions, like most white house press pool (cesspool) that add nothing to the presser.

michaelh

It really is the FAKE NEWS and it’s effect on the public that I am most scared of!

kalbokalbs

Makes sense. Numerous reports patients markedly better in six days. Dunno how long it takes to, recovered.

Concerned Virginian

So now a member of VP Pence’s office has tested positive for the Wuhan Coronavirus.
Apparently neither POTUS nor the VP had close contact with the person.
Contract tracing is now underway.
http://www.kfor.com/health/coronavirus/staff-member-in-vice-president-mike-pences-office-tests-positive-for-coronavirus/
1 hour ago

kea

And another actor I’ve never heard of Andy Cohen?

NYGuy

My nose is twitching about Fauci. Something is not right. Mortality rates are exceptionally low and he is advocating measures that are crashing our economy. POTUS needs to get more people involved with divergent opinions. And fast. I’m tired of this guy.

Gudthots

He’s a good “face” for the NIH during this time. As far as what kind of advice he is giving the admin….

kalbokalbs

Uh, me thinks many of us have had suspicious eyes on Fauci since he appeared on the podium. Moar so when Fauci is solo on MCM shows.
Fauci adheres to a hard line narrative that nearly derails President trump and whenever progress is made.
He is a case of keep the enemy close by.
IF Fauci is sidelined, he’ll become a MCM darling and martyr within minutes. Our worst nightmare moving forward.
Nancy M was skillfully sidelined. Dunno if Fauci can be sidelined at this point.

Gudthots

We were already warned about Fauci by whistleblower scientist that wrote book “Plague: One Scientist’s Intrepid Search for the Truth about Human Retroviruses and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS), Autism, and Other Diseases.” Her recent video interview is eye opening.
“This book is my best attempt to tell the truth about my research, the culture in science today which is hostile to new ideas, and what science can really do if allowed to pursue promising areas of inquiries.”—Dr. Judy Mikovits, PhDcomment image

GA/FL

This might be about kissing up to her in order to gain donation$ from Clinton Foundation to fund NIH studies.

GA/FL

Birx was an HIV researcher, ambassador under Øbominable.
These people are hopefully apolitical and they are doing a good job for PDJT right now.
The measures the President has taken are saving many, many lives. Doesn’t matter who recommended them.
If we had not had a President with the guts to close the border and consider social distancing – we could be in the same mess as Italy!!!!

Coldeadhands

as regards Dr. Birx, when you have time watch Polly’s background on Birx; a study in corruption.
*https://youtu.be/RSfP8sXtMbk

GA/FL

Øbominable had an agenda – Promote LBGTXYZ – the primary cause of HIV on the one hand and fund HIV research on the other.

NYGuy

A little digging and I found this…get Fauci out of there. He is intentially doing this

michaelh

Trump knows this. He’s on the ball.
He’s an expert at knowing when to keep your enemies closer.
We don’t know that Fauci is a black hat, so let’s be careful.
Trump has allowed him space to do his job. The minute he doesn’t, Trump will take care of it.
Complicated business folks.

Gudthots

I’ve been closely watching him and Bryx for clues as to where they are in the game. I suspect our VSG is utilizing their credibility for the current situation but is not just taking input from their slant.
Knowing that our Lion is great at getting adversaries to cooperate for common goals, I’m not surprised to see them using their talents and credibility in a way that is helping the Trump train. They are the types that can be motivated by hopes for more funding.
Do I trust them? Not at all.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This gal is a good follow on Twitter.

bakocarl

Doing some doomsday thinking here . . .
Let’s assume the hydroxychloroquine is as effective as it appears . . . a six day regimen and the WuFlu virus is dead. So we test just about everybody that has symptoms that make them think they could be coming down with WuFlu. We find a whole bunch of people that are coming down with a cold or seasonal flu, and 10% or so that are WuFlu positive.
But the asymptomatic but contagious period in the WuFlu victims ensures that the bug is spread to an ever increasing number of recipients. More people are infected until we start losing the people responsible for providing, manufacturing and transporting essential goods and services. Now we’re really in trouble.
Some medical writers have more than just speculated about the possible or probable preventive effects of hydroxychloroquine. It would take hundreds of millions of doses, but if that preventive effect exists, medicating the providers of our essential goods and services might not be a bad idea, if push comes to shove.

kalbokalbs

IIRC, while serving on the USS Enterprise, the crew (~5,000) was required to take a regimen of malaria pills, before we got to the problem areas. Quite sure it was malaria. But it was ~35 years ago. Even IF it wasn’t malaria, the concept is the same. In any case, we were not excited about it.
My point being, your suggestion is preventive in nature. Military does that. Guessing it is really a matter of side effects.

Gudthots

I’m not re-checking this, so maybe just hold this thought lightly… Quinolones are fine for many people but for that small number that have wrong genetic or medical conditions, taking them can mean permanent damage. I know of a university professor given one of these drugs and she’s never had normal health again. The most common problem IIRC is breakdown in matrix tissue such that you get tears in tendons. Not cool for working people that need their body to hold together as they lift/move things.

Linda

Linda

michaelh

WOW.
Brilliant insight.
Wow.
Shocking and deeply disturbing.

Gudthots

That first chart is 5G subscribers.
An alternate explanation is that people got woke to the dangers of 60GHz millimeter waves and don’t want the phones anymore.

NYGuy

Just as a reminder, WHO said this

michaelh

Good to know they’re on the ball, doing their part to protect us.

para59r

I’ve been harping on this for some time now. One more harp. Can’t promise it will be the last. All vids are very short.
First the Wuhan Shake. A celebratory PSA from China ((posted by one of us here)) showing what they were doing to stop the spread. Take away every one got was don’t shake hands. How do we miss the fact that everyone is wearing a mask.
https://twitter.com/TheSpeaker2018/status/1233798724167487490?s=20
Next the World Health Organization’s take on wearing a mask. Basically says not recommended unless your sick or caring for a sick person. Other than that no. Most nations to include the USA are following this recommendation.

Next Most Asian countries are not making mask wearing mandatory but but but encourage wearing a mask in a culture where wearing a mask is already an accepted norm by up to 50% of society. Under China Virus season it is hard to find pictures of people in crowds not wearing a mask. It seems to run at appox 95 to 99% compliance to the cultural norm of wearing a mask without mandating mask wearing.

My take on making any sort of face covering mandatory in spread areas / hot zones is it will control spread and make social distancing work at a more practical distance than the current 6ft rule and thus facilitate commerce.
This is what I said over a week ago>>>
Personally, I think the CDC’s new guidelines are an attempt to damage the economy and here’s why.
No where in CDC’s guide lines does it recommend wearing a mask to protect others. It does mention the 6 foot danger zone, but never recommends how that zone might be narrowed to a lesser distance to decrease spread.
Here’s what they say when you click the link to social distancing:
“The best way to prevent illness is to avoid being exposed to this virus.
The virus is thought to spread mainly from person-to-person.
Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet).
Through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes.
These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.”
CDC guide lines only talk about wearing a mask to protect oneself, not others. Wrong way to think if they want to minimize spread. All their minimize spread recommendations deal with canceling events, sending people home, not gathering. Right now they allow for up to 50 people gathering. No mention of masks. When the reported numbers go up as we know they will, numbers that well could be exaggerated, will they next lower the number to say 10 and recommend stores and business’s to be closed next? ((Yeah that happened)).
Why not recommend a mask, or any face covering to protect others when the mask has the potential to narrow the 6 foot zone to a safe 2 feet or closer as long as it is blocking the major respiratory droplets from spreading into the air. You can watch any video in any hot zone and see masks are mandatory. Yet we can see many of the people are wearing cheap masks that would not be considered safe from letting the virus in. So why are masks mandatory. Simple answer is it protects others.
Another thing the CDC does not mention is building up and maintaining a healthy constitution through a balanced diet or vitamin regimen. Not a whiff of it. Why not?
Personally I’m looking at the CDC right now as wanting the virus to enjoy its life while its around why they appear to be doing the right thing, economics be damned and you can well guess the reason.
If we wish to stop the spread, make wearing any kind of mask mandatory in effected zones. A Good mask, a not so good mask, even a kerchief. Any of those will cut the 6 foot zone down to 3 to 1 foot.
The idea is not to protect your self but protect others. Hello CDC?
The CDC is giving bogus guidance. Tell me where on their site they recommend cutting the effected zone down from 6 feet to as little as 1 foot by simply making the wearing of a mask mandatory in effected zones or zones that need protecting like the work place or where commerce takes place. They don’t want to stop the spread. They want the virus to continue to circulate, for older generations to be segregated from society and for commerce to be minimized. Is wearing a mask mandatory in high spread nations like China? It doesn’t matter the quality of the mask. It could be a simple kerchief and it would narrow the spread dramatically and facilitate commerce. End.
We are crashing an economy over not adopting a simple social norm that can be applied temporarily in hot zones.
Absent govt mandate or encouragement your stores should mandate the wear of any sort of face cover before being allowed access into that store so as to slow and disperse quicker the transmission of air borne particles that might be present and added benefit it helps prevent you from touching your face until you can wash your hands.
Shutting down most of economy is not the answer as everyone is still being funneled into grocery stores.
I could go on and on about this but will end for now saying Dr Fauci is either evil or wants/needs to have masks funneled into the health care system where there is an acute shortage of masks. I tend toward evil as less costly and effective face coverings can be used to slow the spread such as a simple bandanna across the mouth. It will stop the larger emissions of a CV carrier and it will permit for what does escape into the atmosphere to dissipate much quicker.

para59r

Operator failure! Correct vid for # 3 is this