Dear KAG: 20220907 Open Thread

Interestingly enough, the big winner on headlines on Tuesday was energy:

From OT:

Russia Shuts Down Nord Stream 1 Gas Pipeline, Gasprom Sends out Eerie Video ‘Winter is Coming’

Wow, Europe Household Electric Bills Estimated to Jump by $2 Trillion Next Year, That’s 12% of Their GDP

California Governor Reminds All Correct Thinking Citizens to Remain Committed to Scarce Energy Resource Allocation


Thousands without power in California’s Bay Area during brutal heat wave

“Sleepwalking to Destruction”: World Struck by Relentless Climate Alarmism

Green agenda now demands elimination of natural gas in homes nationwide

They can pry my natural gas range out of my cold, dead hands.

What a mess.

In other headlines:

Report: CNN Employees ‘Freaked Out’ over Recent Exits Under New Boss Chris Licht – ‘Is There a Purge Going On?’

Short answer according to Storm Rider, yes.

What I Mean When I Speak of the Political Seduction of the Church

I’m referring to the unhealthy marriage of politics and the gospel. I’m speaking about the church becoming an appendage to a political party. I’m talking about God’s people getting consumed with election fever. I’m referring to believers putting their hope in a political leader in a way that becomes unhealthy and even idolatrous.

That is what I mean by political seduction.

Unfortunately, seduction is very enticing. It comes in subtly, not overtly, through the side window, not the front door. And it looks so good at the outset, so justifiable, so right. It is only over time that it begins to show its fangs.

Dean Obeidallah: It’s No Longer Republicans vs. Democrats, It’s Americans vs. MAGA

California refugees versus The Art of the Deal

I have written in the past about how it should be our objective to protect those things that make a locale worth moving to.  It is a commitment that my wife and I take seriously.  In Idaho, that means staunchly conservative.  It means low taxes, low crime, and a commitment to family values.  As a paleoconservative, in the mold of Barry Goldwater or Ron Paul, I have strong libertarian tendencies.  In general, I believe in the non-aggression principle and the idea of leaving people alone.  Unfortunately, the people whom you wish to leave alone often don’t reciprocate or hold the same values.  Where does this leave us?

On the way back home from camping, it dawned on me that the only conservative solution to this invasion is to double down on our conservative positions.  For instance, as a libertarian-leaning guy, I have long stated that I am ambivalent about the practice of smoking marijuana.  I choose not to partake in it myself but prefer to stay out of other people’s lifestyle habits.  From a policy perspective, there is no benefit to Idaho being an early adopter in decriminalizing its use.  Pot-smokers tend to vote progressively, and being an early adopter would make Idaho an attractive destination to progressive voters.  From this position, we either decriminalize it all at once nationally or be the last state to legalize it.

This solution extends to any conservative issue, such as abortion.  If you don’t want to move to a conservative state because you can’t utilize abortion as a contraceptive, you’re probably the target demographic of anti-abortion laws.  The progressive press refers to this as the rightward march of conservatism, but is it?  Conservatives have long supported drug prohibition and opposed abortion. These positions are the status quo of conservatism, which by definition is unchanging.

Poll: 56 Percent View Joe Biden’s ‘Extremism’ Speech as Unacceptable

Fifty-six say the speech “represents a dangerous in rhetoric and is designed to incite conflict amounts Americans.” Only 35 percent say the speech was “acceptable campaign messaging that is to be expected in an election year.” Nearly 8 percent have no opinion.

Moreover, nearly 20 percent of Democrats viewed the speech negatively. Sixty-two percent of independents agreed that it represented “a dangerous in rhetoric and is designed to incite conflict amounts Americans.” Eighty-nine percent of Republicans oppose the speech.

Have Chinese Spies Infiltrated American Elections?

Why Every Republican Should Back Blake Masters’ War Against “Affirmative Action”

If these consultants exist, they are wrong. Masters’ attack on affirmative is entirely merited and long-overdue. And more to the point, the entire Republican Party should be following Masters into a full-scale war against affirmative action, everywhere in American life. 

They greatest reason they should do this is on moral grounds. Treating people as members of demographic categories rather than as individuals is evil. The ever-widening use of affirmative action, coupled with anti-white and anti-male discrimination, is an affront to human dignity.

The second reason all Republicans should take on affirmative action is because it’s enormously destructive to America. As Masters’ tweet and video make plain, affirmative action is about far more than just college admissions slots or entry-level jobs. Affirmative action has become an elaborate patronage system touching every part of American life. The President picks his VP and Supreme Court nominees using affirmative action. Companies appoint board members based on affirmative action. Government contracts are awarded based on race and sex rather than ability. Police and prosecutors are openly pressured to enforce the law less harshly on blacks than on whites.

Any governing system that treats race as a priority rather than trying to ignore it entirely is asking for disaster. America tried to make “racial equity” a priority for law enforcement, and what it got was thousands of deaths from an explosion in murders and car crashes. In 2008, a push to hand out mortgages to people who couldn’t afford them caused the largest financial crisis in living memory. Now, at the Biden Administration’s urging, banks are making the exact same mistake, for explicitly racial reasons.

Poll: Most Americans Say Civility and Tone in Politics Have Gotten Worse

Most Americans believe civility and tone in politics have worsened over the past few years, a recent CBS News/YouGov survey found.

The vast majority, 80 percent, believe civility in politics has worsened in recent years, compared to 12 percent who said it has stayed the same and seven percent who believe it has improved.

As Christians Grow Less Popular, Our Gun Rights Get More Important

Nobody can really trust the modern secular state with a monopoly of violence. But unpopular minorities can trust it least of all. The Christians of the Middle East learned this lesson in an especially bitter fashion in just the last 15 years. The grim events that took place after the U.S.’s blundering conquest of Iraq, and the “Arab Spring” foolishly promoted by our own State Department, offer the observer almost a controlled laboratory experiment in the different outcomes for disarmed Middle Eastern Christians, and those who have the chance to arm and defend themselves.

Potato Salad Politics

During the research for my first non-fiction book, I had some online issues with someone who didn’t like my opinion. He really didn’t like it, and he believed I should die for expressing a view (a fact-based view) that he didn’t like. He was from Egypt, and in 2002 a death threat from someone in Egypt meant getting the FBI involved. They told me to either stop writing or use a pen name, then blew me off. I tried using a pen name, but as time passed, and the War on Terror became a domestic political tool so too did the trolls and threats. One day, someone trolled my Facebook account, and made some intimidating comments about pictures of my family. That was enough, and I stopped writing. They successfully cancelled me.

This cancel culture is not new. People and groups have always turned to boycotts or a Scarlett Letter as a way of forcing their views to be accepted above others. I gave in. Most people do. We are lesser for it.

SHOCKING VIDEO! Via MC4EI and Gateway Pundit — 13 Minutes of Never-Before-Seen Footage of Ballot Trafficking in Detroit, Michigan – Including Postal Workers!

President Biden Draws Minuscule Crowd for PA Union Worker Labor Day Speech

Biden spoke at the United Steelworkers event on Labor Day, but it drew very few union members, photos show. The Daily Mail went as far as describing the crowd as “pitifully small” with “dozens” gathered to hear the President of the United States speak. Photos appear to back that assessment up, and according to TribLive, “about 100 attendees took COVID tests” prior to the event:

This man got eighty-one million votes.




Have a good day y’all.

(I don’t remember who brought this to a daily in the comments, but thanks.)

And, of course, the obligatory George Carlin:

Per the Boss:

Just ’cause I’m in the mood.

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LUKE 6:20-26

20And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said: “Blessed are you poor, for yours is the kingdom of God. 21“Blessed are you that hunger now, for you shall be satisfied. “Blessed are you that weep now, for you shall laugh. 22“Blessed are you when men hate you, and when they exclude you and revile you, and cast out your name as evil, on account of the Son of man! 23Rejoice in that day, and leap for joy, for behold, your reward is great in heaven; for so their fathers did to the prophets. 24“But woe to you that are rich, for you have received your consolation. 25“Woe to you that are full now, for you shall hunger. “Woe to you that laugh now, for you shall mourn and weep. 26“Woe to you, when all men speak well of you, for so their fathers did to the false prophets.

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It is quite clear, as per Wolf’s message from July, that we are under spiritual attack. Building up a robust arsenal of prayer and discipline is a must in fighting the enemy and his minions.

In that spirit, the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel from Tuesday’s threads, and the Breastplate of St. Patrick, not to mention the Litany of Humility are favorites recommended by exorcists in spiritual warfare.

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I snorted out loud at ‘chick with a whick’.


Reminds me of a song by Martha Wainwright I heard years ago. This was long before the current weirdness was being normalized, so when I heard the lyric, it stood out 😂

I found it. Looks like it was for some UK TV show. Martha (daughter of Loudon Wainwright and Kate McGarrigle) sings ‘Factory‘, with Pete Townsend sitting in for some reason:



There’s a very funny story about a guitarist who had a very odd tuning on what became a popular song. Pete Townsend and David Gilmour were hanging out and plucking, so they rang him up to ask him about it.

The guitarist hung up on them. He thought it was his mates playing a practical joke.


I would guess that famous people have that experience fairly often, when people on the phone don’t believe they are who they say they are.

I have a short story about something like that. I may have mentioned it before, I don’t remember now.

Burt Reynolds called my Mom, about 50 years ago.

I had relatives in Florida who owned a restaurant, and Burt Reynolds was a regular customer. I have a stack of old curled photos of Burt, Merv Griffin and Dinah Shore together at the restaurant.

My relatives in Florida knew that my Mom was a big Burt Reynolds fan, so one night when Burt was at the restaurant, my relatives asked him to call my Mom as a surprise.

So he did, but there was no answer. So my relatives in Florida called my Grandma’s house. I don’t remember if my Mom was at my Grandma’s, or if she was at my Uncle’s house and my Grandma told my relatives in Florida to call my Uncle.

Anyhow, they tracked down my Mom and got her on the phone, and then my relatives in Florida had Burt talk to her.

He talked to her for a moment, and then asked if she knew who it was. She didn’t, so he told her who was calling.

She didn’t believe it was really him, of course. He talked for a minute or so, and when he couldn’t convince her it was him, he laughed the ‘Burt Reynolds’ laugh, just like everyone has heard before, if they have seen any of his movies.

Except this wasn’t on the big screen, it was through the telephone, and that’s when my Mom realized it was really him 😁


Great story. 👍


A year or two ago I found (and bought) an old postcard from the restaurant that I found listed on eBay. I remembered they used to have them in a postcard rack by the glass case cash register counter.

The postcard has photos of the interior of the restaurant, both the dining area and the bar area where they had a piano player every evening, just like I remembered it from when I was a kid, so I was glad to find it.

We used to go on family vacation to Florida for two weeks every year. We stayed at the same motel every year, about a 10 minute drive to my relatives’ house or to their restaurant.

When I was around age 6 or 7, I discovered prime rib, cooked rare. Probably at Christmas dinner. When we were in Florida that year, I noticed they had prime rib on the menu, and it was the only thing I wanted. It wasn’t on the kids’ menu, but they let me order it anyway (that never happened at home!). I remember the piece of roast beef was so big it was hanging over the edge of the dinner plate.

I think our waitress commented about it, and so did someone at a neighboring table 😂

One of my relatives (the ones who owned the restaurant) was the hostess, and her husband was the head cook. He knew which dinner order was ours, and gave me the extra super super size portion… along with lots of other great memories during those years 😁

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Gail Combs

“…. I discovered prime rib, cooked rare….”

The one think I HATE about not being able to eat salt is NOT getting to go out to eat and order PRIME RIB….

You really can not cook it at home for just two people.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy



Dave Wakeling, “Save It For Later” —

Gail Combs

Hubby didn’t ‘get it!’ I had to explain it to him.  🙄 

I thought it was hilarious!


Britain’s new sec of state for health…
I don’t care how she wants to run her own life and health, but someone so obviously out of shape does not inspire confidence that she could advise me about health.

Cuppa Covfefe

She’s just following in the hoof-steps of Belgium’s “health” minister…

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Has to be a reason why all the “health” ministers are unhealthy… maybe because no healthy person would advocate the clot-shot or any of the other murderous malfeasance the WEFfenSS has planned…


I feel sorry for her.

Gail Combs

Goodness that woman needs to deal with her dietary issues!


She can have my Boosters.

Brave and Free

One reason could be that they already have a biased perspective of healthy people. Much easier to justify what there doing in there minds then.
Same way with all the freaks in the fraudulent administration.

I don’t really feel sorry for them, it’s all about choices in life.

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This is just the satanic response of our infiltrators. Same thing with Big Mike’s and Dr. Jill’s wardrobe. They do everything to spit in our faces.


From Nord Stream article linked to OT: “Well, it looks like it’s official now. After several days of sporadic reporting on Russia’s decision to shut down the Nord Stream 1 natural gas pipeline into western Europe, it looks like the valves have been shut down until EU sanctions against Russia are removed.

Strategically the Nord Stream 1 pipeline is the major gas supply route into Germany, Europe’s largest economy.”


It’s just incomprehensible… 😂🤣😂

It’s like being the Captain of the Titanic, and SEEING the iceberg dead ahead, seeing it in plenty of time to turn.

But steadfastly going straight ahead, increasing speed even, to make sure you hit it real good.

Except this isn’t ‘just’ a ship, it’s an entire nation state. No, it’s bigger than that, it’s basically all of western Europe, destroying itself, and taking everything it can down with it.

Nobody is this stupid.

Not even any group of nobodies is this stupid.

Whatever the scheme is (sabotage from within), and whoever is behind it, this is 100% by intent and design.

Not even Wile E. Coyote would put himself in a position like this!


:0) Never saw it comin’…said no one…except these idiots…..


All that what you say just proves it.
It’s not about beating Russia.
It’s about beating us.
Russia is just the catalyst.
Pushed until it retaliated.


I thought this was worth viewing —

And I wonder…..I know there is some talk that Griner is a political hostage. I wonder whether a swap for Victoria Nuland and both Vindmans would work…..


Would they accept a boxed set.

Cuppa Covfefe

Pining for it…




As in pine box?

Cuppa Covfefe

Send Soros and his Satanic spawn…


Practically seems like Putin is in on the whole thing, like it’s a coordinated take-down.

We can be sure Putin knows the truth of what is going on, far better than we do.

To the outside world, it appears that Putin was ‘pushed’ — but if Putin understands what they’re doing (which he would understand), then why would he have obliged them…

Unless he was working with them?


Nato got too cocky and the RF said enough.
The sane half of the world is still happily trading with the RF.
They cannot lose, at worst they’ll break even financially.
Only the gobos will end up impoverished.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Exactly. Russia had very smartly taken a “hands off” approach to the half of America that got wise to “endless wars”, so that when Team Globonazi/Econojazi tried to get America and Russia to detonate over Ukraine, it was a huge fizzle.

This can be symbolized another way.

In a nuclear war, Russia only needs one tiny bomb. WASHINGTON. When the rest of America looks around and suddenly realizes that all their REAL problems are gone, it’s over. WIN-WIN.

Having a war requires creation of a mass perception of grievance, but the masses are getting too smart for false grievances to be created. Now we’re at the point where the creators of false grievances are getting REAL GRIEVANCES against themselves as a response.

It’s all about mass formation, and now that Americans are WISE the whole scammy business, just as Russians are wise after living through communism for far too long, the “masses” are resisting the manipulators.

Trump was way ahead of this stuff. Mass formation over smart freedom is a huge winner.



Speaking of Mr. Mass Formation Psychosis: In continuing my personal theory that the two are actually working together…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Great article!

Which two? China and WEF? Or Russia and WEF?

I see them all as “frenemies” – with China and WEF contending for superiority. My money is on China controlling WEF far sooner than WEF thinks it can domesticate the dragon!


Oooooh, I LIKE that.

Mass formation awareness.

Brought to you, of course, by a certain letter of the alphabet that shall remain nameless.

Cuppa Covfefe




Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes. The first mass awareness formation psy-op. Pretty cool.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

(You can switch awareness and formation to emphasize either aspect, or even refer to ourselves as the “awareness formation masses”!  😉 

Cuppa Covfefe

Or, rhyming, awareness formation nation…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy



And we were a part of it!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Indeed we were.


Trump said it. The best is yet to come!



Gail Combs

Wolfie, If I recall correctly, Putin was VERY CAREFUL to point a finger at the Demon-Rats and the Deep State and NOT at MAGA Americans. I wish I had kept that ‘sauce’

I did however find this:

17 JAN 2017, TASS (Russian News Agency)

Putin accuses outgoing US administration of attempting to undermine Trump’s legitimacy

MOSCOW, January 17. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin has accused the outgoing US administration of trying to undermine the legitimacy of US President-elect Donald Trump.

“What we see is the continuing sharp domestic political struggle although the presidential elections are over and they ended with a convincing victory of Mr. Trump,” Putin told reporters after talks with Moldovan President Igor Dodon.

This struggle has several goals, Putin said, adding that the first of them is to “undermine legitimacy of the US president-elect.” 

“Whether the people who have been doing that really wish it or not, they do cause harm to the interests of the United States and that harm is enormous,” Putin said. “One has the impression that upon gaining the required experience they may go as far as staging Maidan type of protests in Washington in a bid to prevent Trump from taking office.”

“Another aim they pursue is to bind the president-elect by hand and foot to not let him act on home and foreign policy election pledges,” Putin said.

“Look, how can anything be done to improve the Russian-US relations if such hoax as the interference of some hackers in the election campaign emerges?” Putin said. He noted that hackers did not invent anything but they only got access to the materials of the US Democratic Party’s campaign headquarters…..

BOY did Putin ever nail that! Also that first 30 minute meeting between Trump and Putin lasted 2 hours….  🤓 

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Wow, did Putin call THAT one.


To the outside world, it appears that Putin was ‘pushed’ — but if Putin understands what they’re doing (which he would understand), then why would he have obliged them…”

Even Putin must respond to political pressure if it becomes apparent that he appears to be pushed around by opponents. Politics is as much about responding to how things appear as it is to governing and policy.

Gail Combs

NATO, the Ukraine and the BIO-WEAPONS Labs presented a very very serious danger to Russia. Once Bite-Me was in place and The ReichsWEF started yammering on about THE GREAT RESET, Putin HAD to make a move.


A lot of people share the concern that Putin may be working in tandem with the Globalists given how we see how much this war is hurting us on multiple levels. Keep in mind though it is the Globalists that want to see the nation states suffer and die off only to be replaced with their version of world wide fascism, so using up the West’s blood and treasure plays right in to their hands and thus the appearance Putin is in on it. Meanwhile Putin is going to shrug that off. He’s concerned about his nation and not allowing it to become a feast for the globalist ghouls as has happened with the West. Not his fault the West wants to be suicided.

It really is about Globalists vs Nationalists and unfortunately we are being represented by the Globalists with no Nationalists in power.

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Not a student of Putin.

From what I understand Putin is 100% Russian. Nationalist.

There is ZERO chance Putin is offering up 13 of 14 Ruskies, for WEF BS.

Quite the contrary. It appears, Putin is protecting Russia and Russians. Doing quite well at that.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Trump was a genius to just out this shit in public. GREATEST TROLL EVER!!!

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Gail Combs

Note Abe next to Trump with the same folded arm stance.


Same folded arms and same drilling stare…God bless him, they got Abe, even though he was retired. Object lesson that was not needed by DJT but certainly not lost on him either.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. From what I understand, the red-pilled Japanese get what their media will not admit – that CCP (and likely WEF) had a hand in taking out Abe.


You are so right!

Anyone who doesn’t see and understand this is intentional is a complete moron. Like they should be institutionalized moron.

Gail Combs

They decided they want the nice OBEDIENT but intelligent CHINESE. That is why Kissenger saw to it that US technology was TRANSFERRED TO CHINA.

Now they are going to destroy Western Civilization and probably take down the middle east (IQ ~ 85) and Africa (IQ ~85) while they are at it. Or at least enslave them.

The only real threat to their plans for totalitarian World Wide Slavery was the USA.


Y’know, I could suggest a way that the gender studies freakshow wouldn’t have to pay back any of eir student loans at all…..just go out by the ravine, turn around and smile….then take a step back….and another….and another…..

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL! The “studies” freakshow, courtesy of the FRANKFURT SCHOOL. Love it.


Breitbart needs to proofread their articles:

Fifty-six say the speech “represents a dangerous in rhetoric and is designed to incite conflict amounts Americans.”


Good help is hard to get these days….

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Autocorrupt is a scourge!


It drives me nuts when doing the BIMD. I cannot catch them all sometimes.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes – I refuse to use it whenever possible. Spelling warnings work fine for me – can’t stand the constant back-ups needed with any kind of autocorrection.


Thanks for the two references to election fraud: the Detroit ballot trafficking and the Michigan judge’s ruling on Dominion machines being designed to create fraud. “The ruling is a major blow for Dominion’s CEOs, who hoped to keep the report sealed.”

These are huge issues that deserve discussion, but what more can we say? We know it happened, and states have done very little to stop it. I know that Gregg Phillips and Catherine Engelbrecht are working on it, along with sheriffs and prosecutors, but it all takes time — especially since so much time has passed with ineffective investigations or with those in power refusing to take action. We have to watch the polls, and we have to vote.


Qstradamus on Truth Social, regarding Patel Patriot (whose situation I know nothing about):

I would ask my prayer warriors to pray for our brother @patelpatriot !

The enemy has really moved against him in his personal life.

Tomorrow he has a very important custody battle court case over his two children.

Pray that justice prevails for Jon. Pray God puts his protection over him. Pray that God leads the court to do the right thing.

Jon is over the target and his enemies would do anything to hurt him. God bless you Jon. God will move on your behalf, he is faithful 🙏 ✝️

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. This is what they do. They go after spouses, kids, family – whatever.

Gotta be strong. Also helps to keep all your people aware of their tactics – the smart ones will pick it up and run with it, and even bring the evidence of attacks.

Gail Combs

From the tidbits I heard, I think his wife is a leftist and thinks Jon is NUTZ. If she gets a SOROS Judge, Jon could lose ALL CONTACT with his children because of his politics.




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Amazon’s ‘woke’ Lord Of The Rings extravaganza is a $1 billion production. It might be widely watched, but so far it has received a lot of thumbs down and Amazon is now banning many of those negative reviews. It appears they are trying to protect their investment.

I read Tolkein’s three volume LOTR work twice in my younger days. It made quite an impression on me when I first read it while in high school. I remember trying to draw Boromir from my imagination. It wasn’t very good, but I’ve improved with years of practice. Apparently dramatic writing hasn’t improved—at least the script for the LOTR on Amazon hasn’t. I have no plans to watch it—especially after reading some of the reviews including this one from The Daily Mail, which gave it one star out of five: 

“Turkey is not the word. No turkey, however bloated and stupid, could ever be big enough to convey the mesmerizing awfulness of Amazon’s billion dollar Tolkien epic. This is a disaster dragon – plucked, spatchcocked, with a tankerload of Paxo stuffed up its fundament, roasted and served with soggy sprouts. The Lord Of The Rings: The Rings Of Power is so staggeringly bad, it’s hilarious. Everything about it is ill-judged to a spectacular extreme. The cliche-laden script, the dire acting, the leaden pace, the sheer inconsistency and confusion as it lurches between styles – where do we start?”  

The women are made into super heroes due to feminism. The white males are made weak and ineffective. They also must have inclusivity, so there will be black dwarves, hobbits, and elves, and I have no problem with that. However, I heard they will also introduce the usual prideful rainbow-ism. I don’t care if anyone is gay, but it’s not part of Tolkein’s vision. In his work, men are able to be friends with other men without suspicion of something ulterior going on. Likewise with the women. Maybe they’ll introduce a gay Balrog or something. How about a trans-orc?

Regardless, woke-ism tends to turn all it touches into garbage. It’s really nothing more than cultural Marxism, which has destruction as its core goal. It doesn’t care if it’s entertaining or not.

— Ben Garrison

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Good stuff. Gotta help the WOKE go BROKE.

Gail Combs

I sure hope it BOMBS at the Box office!

Hubby and I have complete copies of The Trilogy. I have ZERO desire to see someone mutilate a beloved book.

When I read my brain translates the words directly into a ‘movie’ so why do I need someone else to do a much poorer job than my brain does automatically?

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Cuppa Covfefe

Many, many years ago a young boy was asked why he preferred reading over radio or the new-fangled television.

His reply was, “because the pictures are better”…

We’ve raised at least three generations now who have little or no imagination. Sort of like the little girl in “Miracle On 34th Street”, who has been trained to disbelieve anything that even hints of fantasy. Kris Kringle then describes and demonstrates to her the “Imagine Nation”…

Now it seems we have either folks with no imagination whatsoever, and pie-in-the-sky Unicorn and Pixie-dust Greens who only live in an imaginary world, with no grasp of reality at all.

Someone once said

“Neurotics build castles in the air,
Psychotics live in them, and
Psychiatrists collect the rent.”

Cuppa Covfefe

Speaking of Garrison, his wife passed yesterday, of Alzheimer’s. He could use some (OK a lot) of our prayers. Amazing that he could do all that he did, and take care of her too. A devout Christian, he really “walks the walk”. And what a true, loving, husband, friend, and partner he must have been to her. RIP.

Duchess posted this over at Marica’s (not sure if she posted it here):


My wife of almost 55 years gently passed away in her sleep sometime last night. When I work up this morning and prepared to change her absorbent underwear, her legs were stiff and her skin was cold. When I couldn’t find a pulse, I knew she was gone. 

Although her decline was gentle, much slower paced than what usually happens, she’d been showing final stage Alzheimer’s symptoms for awhile now. About 10 days or a little more ago she completely lost the ability to stand. Then she stopped eating, didn’t even want water. When she began sleeping 24 hours straight, I knew it was time for help so this past week I’d arranged for home hospice care. One of the hospice nurses told me that my wife was most likely a few days away from death. A good friend, a physician neighbor, agreed with the prediction. 

Over the past 3 days I watched the my thick and thin partner, the love of my life, slowly fade away. I prayed that Our Lord would allow her to have a gentle passing, prayed for her to pass in her own bed. The Lord allowed both things to happen. 

I’m trying my best not to feel sad about her passing. Having cared for her for almost 20 years, I knew what was eventually coming. And so now it has. I take heart that we were both strong believers and so she is now with Our Lord. Today, when I came home after visiting with a dear friend, I immediately felt how empty our house now feels. She’s no longer here and her absence is keenly felt.


🙏 🙏 🙏


I had no idea. Thank you for posting this. 🙏 for the Garrison family.
Garrison posted this, saying he would be back on August 15.

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So just a couple of weeks ago Garrison was off for vacation. As in the cartoon, I envisioned him and his wife going having a relaxing time. He said this:

We are taking a rare vacation this week in order to help replenish our artistic energy. We will be enjoying our Montana summer scenery and mountain air. During this time there will be no new cartoons, but we might share pictures—and possibly videos of our adventures.

Cartooning will resume on Monday August 15th, see you then!

— Ben and Tina Garrison

Sometimes there are works by Tina Toon on Garrison’s site. His wife was an artist and her name was Tina. I had thought she had produced some recent cartoons.


He says, “I knew what was eventually coming.” And then, “Today, when I came home after visiting with a dear friend, I immediately felt how empty our house now feels. She’s no longer here and her absence is keenly felt.” Even when you know what’s coming, there is no way to mitigate that empty feeling.

Gail Combs

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Wow. I had thought he was just a cranky younger version of me. Now I find out how deep his soul is, in the midst of his grief.


I’m getting a lot of weird internet hiccups. I don’t think it’s this site.

Also, when I turned things back on, I didn’t have audio. So I went through all the Linux audio troubleshooting stuff. I got audio back again when I turned my amplified speaker system back on.


I’m not having problems, so I don’t think it’s this site.


I don’t think they’re so much site-specific as my-ISP-specific.


“I got audio back again when I turned my amplified speaker system back on.”


My audio always sounds better when it’s on too 👍😁


And there’s all that complicated software configuration involved….


My audio always sounds better when it’s on too

Depends on what’s playing…🥁😂


Good point! 😁


The power failure had turned the speaker system off as well as the computer. When I restarted the computer, I couldn’t hear anything……


Breaking… Steve Bannon faces state indictment in New York…

Hugo Lowell:

New: Confirming that former Trump strategist Steve Bannon is expected to be indicted Thursday by Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg in New York State for charges connected to the “We Build the Wall” fundraising effort —


Bannon’s statement (so far I only see a jpg, not text):

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Wyoming Knucklehead

We must pray for him. Go Steve.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

🤬 🤬 🤬

Gail Combs

Bannon has been a very important water carrier for the MAGA movement so they are going to take him out before the 2022 election and into the 2024 cycle.

I Really Really want to see these pieces of slime mold get indicted, convicted and hung!


I thought Bragg didn’t WANT any criminals in jail?


HS athlete has 6 feet of (mysterious) blood clots removed from leg…

High school football player Kaden Clymer has had his athletic career cut short after doctors found and removed six feet of blood clots from the teenager’s legs. The cause of the blood clots is not yet known, but the teen now requires a regimen of blood thinners to ensure the issue doesn’t crop up again.

According to the video:
His calf was swollen 4 inches larger than normal.
He was in the hospital 9 days.
He can barely walk but is getting better.
He’s on blood thinners, so he can’t play football.
He’s getting two shots in his stomach every day.
He might be able to play baseball later.

What, oh what, might have caused this? No mention of vax status. What I think is malpractice, journalistically and medically, is that no one mentions the possibility of these injuries and deaths being vax-related. Instead, they are still pushing the newest, untested vaxes on people — as we watch people’s lives change for the worse, or even end. Accountability is completely lacking.


“What, oh what, might have caused this? No mention of vax status.”



We’re not supposed to question anything, or make the obvious connections, because it makes those who condone evil (by remaining silent) uncomfortable, don’tcha know!

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Yes, we must never talk about the baJ!


“What I think is malpractice, journalistically and medically, is that no one mentions the possibility of these injuries and deaths being vax-related.”


I think it’s far worse than ‘malpractice’.

It’s like putting a known serial killer in a room with ten people, and every time the lights go out, another person is murdered.

I wonder who’s murdering people?

Who could it ever be?

Like Ten Little Idiots.

It would take Miss Marple, Columbo, Hercule Poirot, Nancy Drew, Joe Friday, Ironside, Kolchak, Scooby and the Gang, Sherlock Holmes, Barney Fife, the Hardy Boys and Chief Inspector Clouseau to figure out a mystery that deep.

The urinalists and the quacks know exactly what’s going on, just like everybody else who has at least one brain cell left 👍

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^^^ This. The medical community have shot themselves in the azz and wonder why it hurts to sit down.

My devotion this AM said to forgive for me, even if they do not deserve it. Not sure I am capable of going along with that one when they refuse to stop committing genocide.


Personally will NOT Forgive OR Forget. Never. Not gonna happen.

  • Bastards are knowingly AND intentionally injuring, handicapping and killing.

Never Forgive. Never Forget.

Gail Combs


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Naomi Wolf on Bannon today. She said UK has banned Injecting 11 and under. Mambi gibberish language, essentially, no more injecting 11 and under.

No admission it is unsafe. Just no more injecting 11 and under.

Progress. But NOT enough.

Injection mandates, requirements must end. THEN, indict the ass holes that have done this to citizens everywhere around the globe.

No Mercy. No Forgive. No Forget.

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We have to make it a cultural joke that “they” won’t mention their evil jab.


Something along the lines of the Fight Club perhaps…

The first rule of the Jab Club is: DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE JAB CLUB!

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OMG that’s absolutely hilarious! PLEASE feel honored that I’m stealing the hell out of that!


“We have to make it a cultural joke that “they” won’t mention their evil jab.”


Like “Ⅎ˥ƎSWIH ˥˥I⋊ ⊥,NᗡIᗡ NIƎ⊥SԀƎ”

This would be more like “100,000 vaxx takers didn’t kill themselves.”

Just need the data to prove it, which most of the so-called ‘authorities’ won’t acknowledge or reveal.


Surely the High School Athlete is THANKFUL.

  • Without the Injection, it could have been much worse.
  • Duh!

It may be that Kaden Clymer will be on some type of blood thinner for the foreseeable future — if, as one suspects, he was “fully vaccinated” in order to attend in-person classes and to play on the football team, the enhanced mRNA spike protein from the “vaccine” is very likely still in his body and still forcing it to produce more spike protein.
September 2, 2022
Updated September 5, 2022
“Embalmers Have Been Finding Numerous Long, Fibrous Clots That Lack Post-Mortem Character”

FTA, Dr. James Thorp, specialist in maternal-fetal medicine:
The COVID-19 vaccine diverts energy away from the physiologic processes in the body towards the production of the toxic spike protein...This directs energy away from the normal process of internal digestion known as autophagy. This results in protein misfolding and propagation of large intravascular blood clots and also a variety of related diseases including prion disease, Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, amyloidosis, and dementias including Alzheimer’s and others. While it is possible that COVID-19 illness itself could potentially contribute to these diseases, it is unlikely and if so the effect of the vaccine would be 100- to 1,000-fold greater than that of COVID-19 disease.” (bolding mine)

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Good info.

if, as one suspects, he was “fully vaccinated” in order to attend in-person classes and to play on the football team

And now he can’t play on the football team. People need to wake up.

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The overtext reads “The foil on the toothpick represents the blue flash.”

The demon core killed two bright physicists before it was melted down and remade. It was originally meant for the next bomb after Nagasaki.


People’s memories have been getting less reliable…..

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It seems like “mean tweets” was once a thing…..


I miss indoor fireworks too.

When I was a kid, my friends and I used to shoot whistle rockets out of our attic dormer. There were two windows that opened inward on hinges, and the windows were about six inches apart from each other.

In between the windows, I drilled a hole, angled upward, through to the outside. Then I put thumb tacks a little below and on either side of the hole, with a rubber band stretched around the thumb tacks to be used as a support.

Then you could put the head of a whistle rocket (same as a bottle rocket, but with a rounded plastic shell, and it whistled as it traveled before exploding) into the hole, with the wooden stem resting on the rubber band, ready for launch, with the fuse accessible from inside the house.

You could shoot off rockets from inside the house, with the windows closed, which was the whole point.

After about 10 minutes of shooting off rockets, some neighbor would call the cops, and a patrol car would slowly drive up the street. But he’s looking for someone outside, at street level, and we were up in the attic, looking down through closed windows.

When he got to the end of the block, we’d light another one off, and watch him come racing down the street, looking for those meddling kids.

When he got to the other end of the block, we would shoot off another one, and the cop would come racing back up the street again…

They never caught us 😂 🤣 😂

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Cuppa Covfefe

Gosh, Scott, you’re terrible 😀

A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far, away, but really in Silicon Valley, I sometimes had to work late nights when monthend, quarterend, or yearend closings were running. There’d only be two or three of us, and the security guard minding the building and doing his rounds.

It was a two story building, late 70s warehouse industrial chic (exposed air ducts painted in bright colors, etc.). [It was sold to Beckton-Dickinson years later, who knows who has it now.]. Anyway, the security guard had a habit of answering phones that rang, and taking messages and leaving a note on the recipient’s desk (this was before voicemail), rather a nice thing to do.

Soooo, we decided to help give him a tour of the building.

We’d call an extension, wait a bit until he got near enough to answer it, and then hang up. Then we’d dial the next one, maybe 50 or 100 feet away, and so on. We led him up and down stairs a couple of times, but he didn’t catch on (at least we never got any feedback).

Those were the days 🙂

More phone phun: ‘orrible had a phone system where you could patch a call between two extensions without your extension showing up on the display. The result being two very confused people wondering why the other person called them….. it was a popular sport for a while until the phone group fixed it…


Lol! I love it!


Bye-Dun was thinking of you when he decided MAGA was a threat to his democracy.

Nice going.


Valerie Curren

That was Awesome…reminds me A Lot of some of Hubby’s adventures!!!

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Ah but we got rid of the mean tweets. It’s worth the gas prices, to get rid of them, isn’t it?

(Scratches head, trying to remember.)


When I first considered abandoning the land of my birth, California, I struggled to understand how other regions were put together and functioned. It’s actually very difficult for a Californian to get this, because the state was put together so haphazardly and in reaction to peculiar events.

By contrast, the development of the southeast is very logical. There are deepwater ports along the Atlantic. Each needed warehouses, insurance agents, shipping agents, tax collectors, accountants, lawyers, and longshoremen, so cities were built to house these functions. This would include Norfolk, VA; Wilmington, NC; Charleston, SC; and Savannah, GA — among others.

Because the Atlantic Coastal Plain is flat as a pancake and drenched with water, most goods moved onward by barge or between ports by small ships. This worked up to the “fall line” — the first, lowest, waterfall on navigable waterways. Even if only six inches high, barges could no longer be poled (or hauled by mules) past this obstacle. So another row of cities were developed with warehouses, insurance agents, shipping agents, tax collectors, accountants, lawyers, freight handlers, and the like — . Richmond, VA; Raleigh, NC; Columbia, SC; Augusta, GA; and Macon, GA are examples.

At the fall line, goods were taken off of barges and put on wagons to move into the piedmont — the “foot” [pie] “of” [d’] the “mountains” [mont]. These rolling hills made transportation more difficult, but allowed for the creation of “mill towns”. The falling water provided power for woodworking, textiles, and other forms of industry.

Further east, the rolling hills of the piedmont turned into actual mountains. Large wagons drawn by sturdy beasts were exchanged for smaller wagons drawn by nimble ones. And, yes, this meant there was another city of warehouses, insurance agents, shipping agents, tax collectors, accountants, lawyers, and freight handlers.

All of this, of course, worked the same way in reverse. The reason that Kentucky Bourbon and Tennessee Whiskey became standards in American liquor was that the new territories over the Appalachian mountains could raise prodigious amounts of grain, and the growers had to ship it over the mountains to the East Coast for sale. They could ship 25 wagons of grain, or three wagons of liquor for the same sale price in a Virginia market.

Being printed in the land, trade routes and trading posts were stable for many years in the East. In California, a trace of gold or other minerals might build a town overnight — and when that trace was played out, the town might be completely abandoned with similar rapidity. “Ghost towns” were not uncommon.

Railroads and interstates also changed the landscape throughout the nation when built.

And this leads up to why I found the following particularly interesting….


This article is good. Thanks for bringing.

I avoid all cities as much as possible having been to probably 80% of the largest in the country during my career. Green Acres is the life for me…

Valerie Curren

What a dream & a blessing!


I thought this was interesting enough to bring here.

You may consider yourselves fortunate that I consider it less necessary to put into context.


Good article. This bit had never occurred to me though…

“Neocon-backed Johnson to stay in power through emergency powers >>>and set the precedent for Biden to do the same thing before the mid-terms”.<<<

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Also the likely outcome of a false flag. Stay frosty!

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I mean a false flag HERE.

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Great article, and shows how much of a nitwit Boris was.

The idea of using a “mass formation deception” to try to keep moving the stupidity of NATO over-expansion forward – it makes me think that BoJo was just out of his depth, unable to push back on “Atlantis” idiots who likely advised this nonsense, still clinging to “unrealpolitik” of Soros-dumbed Atlantic Council.

Early peace was the winner here, but apparently the EconoJazis had no coin to make that way, and the GloboNazis no power to gain, so the rest of the world is forced to suffer their stupidity.

Valerie Curren

I love your way with words…so succinct & zeroing in on the insanity…brilliantly!

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Thank you! Must admit that I have a target-rich environment on this one – anybody can be a comedian with these clowns!  😉 

Valerie Curren

No doubt, but some are more creative in the humor department than others. 🙂

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Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow, that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ.


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Three years in prison for heating the house

Residents of Switzerland who violate government directives this winter due to a lack of gas in the country by overheating their homes to temperatures above 19 degrees face a fine and imprisonment for up to 3 years. This information was confirmed to Blick by Markus Spurndli, spokesman for the country’s economic department.


19C – 66.2 Farenhiet. That is cool specially people who cannot move much to stay warm.
I guess a wood stove living in the country will be nice . Apartment dwellers are in trouble.


All by design. 13 of 14 gotta go.


Yes 🙁


That’s the max one may have inside IF THERE IS sufficient source of heat

Reality is many will not be warm enough …


Is not warm enough for older people. If one is active one can dress warm and sleep with feather bed. Babies will have to sleep with parents maybe toddlers too. When my heat went early this year it was around that temp maybe someday 66. We did fine. People in Northern Europe can take the cold better.

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. For bedrooms the recommended temperature is 18°C (and has been for quite some time), bathrooms, 21°-23°, living rooms, family rooms, etc., and utility rooms, basments, etc. 18° if they’re heated at all. My wife’s mother would just close the doors to some rooms and shut the radiator(s) off. Modern, trendy, open-architecture houses don’t lend themselves to that sort of cutbacks.

Radiators here have a little star (looks like a snowflake ) on the thermostat below the zero, which indicates that the thermostat will automatically open up if the room is in danger of freezing (I think it’s at four degrees Celsius that it will open up).

So, this isn’t quite as bad as it seems at first. It’s only the draconian punishments that are untenable… I think folks here like it colder at night, and maybe it’s a leftover from the difficult old days (WWI, depression, WWII, etc. probably a lot of wars, etc., going back a long way. And then there was the “Little Ice Age”)…..


I remember when it was very cold in 46-47 . I slept with gloves and hat between my parents so were my brothers. No heat though. I do not remember feeling uncomfortable just as I do not remember hunger like the rest of the family. God is so good that I seem to be able to take cold and heat and no food and enjoy food when I have it 🙂 I do not like cereals and fast foods and do not like soda. I make up with liking cream in my coffee and I never ate margarine i like butter and goat cheese and cheep cheese figs and berries . A good glass of wine occasionally.

Gail Combs

The UK killed a lot of people by restricting energy.

2014: Almost Six million people will be living in fuel poverty by the end of next year. These figures apply just to the UK where fuel poverty also known as energy poverty accounts for around 30,000 cold related senior citizen deaths…

2015 comment on Smart Meters and a debate with Chris the Wind Barron

more debate: 2015 Green Energy Is Dead
(Rud Istvan comments too)

Gator brought up this:

Excess winter deaths are defined by the Office for National Statistics as the difference between the number of deaths during the four winter months (December to March) and the average number of deaths during the preceding autumn (August to November) and the following summer (April to July).

Although the phenomenon of excess winter deaths is not unique to the United Kingdom, the incidence is markedly higher than for countries with similar climates and living standards. England has an 18% rise in deaths during the winter, on average, whereas Finland has a 10% increase, Germany and the Netherlands have 11%.[5]

Since 2000, excess winter deaths in England and Wales remained generally at around 25,000. For the period of 2007-2008 the number of excess winter deaths was 27,480 of which the Hill reporte estimated that around 10% were caused directly by fuel poverty.[6] The winter of 2008-2009 the coldest in 10 years, and the Office for National Statistics estimated there were a total of 36,700, an increase of 49% over the previous year, which represents a 23.8% rise in deaths during the winter.”


Thanks again… and wrt elderly, we have difficulty gauging the temp as our metabolism slows down and can change often (did I say that right?)

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The people have to take control of elections again.

Europeans would vote this shit out if they had real elections.


That looks harsh. And how exactly are TPTB going to be able to determine if someone has it warmer than 19 °C in their house or apartment? Does everyone have an internet-connected thermostat, like in the story from Colorado last week, where 22000 Xcel customers were unable to adjust the thermostat on their A/C?


Smart meters. Likely mandated in some countries. Perhaps required in new home here in US. Many utility companies push how wonderful smart meters are. All lies, but gullible sheeple follow, not think.


Maybe that is how it might be done: The smart meter would indicate unusually large consumption of gas (or electricity) and someone from the relevant agency would go out and investigate, and woe betide the resident, should the measured ambient temperature be found to exceed 19 °C.

Solzhenitsyn’s warning comes to mind.

Cuppa Covfefe

What they have (or will have) is smart thermostats on the heaters (at €50,- a pop) that communicate via DECT to a central control unit, which is usually controlled by your WiFi modem/router, e.g. FRITZ!Box. That way they can tell what setting your thermostats are at.

But, it gets “better”.

Most of the heating here is with radiators: hot water, or, in rare cases, steam. In a multi-family (read: rental) dwelling, each heater must have a little meter that shows how much “heat” has been consumed since the last time it was read. We (stubborn skeptics) have the ancient “verdunst” (evaporation) kind, where over the course of a year, the fluid in the meter evaporates. There are two tubes of fluid in each little device, which serves as a check.

We have been pressured to replace these as it requires someone to come out and read them (which WE pay for, not them), and the gubmint is pushing for remotely readable meters ON EACH HEATER. These then feed into some gateway (probably expecting a smart meter, which we don’t and won’t have). Said gateway can then be interrogated at will by the meter-reading company, who generates reports, nag lists, etc.

Since we have someone renting the little apartment at the bottom of our house (we live on a hill), we are expected to get these and other “rented” measurement bits by the end of next year, despite the HORRENDOUS cost, indeed more than the rent we are allowed to charge (yep, we have really strict rent control here).

So it would be nice if our tenant decided to move elsewhere…

The damned GangGreens won’t be happy until they control every single aspect of our lives.

TL;DR They can put meters on each heater’s thermostat to see at which temperature it’s set, and then they can remotely monitor heat usage, per heater with the little usage meters. Combine the data from both of those and you can develop a profile and predict or force behaviour….. Control freak’s dream 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡 😡


Zero positive thoughts here for smart meters.

Gail Combs

ALL but THREE homes have smart meters I was told when they swapped my meter this year. I pay $30 a month to have an old meter.


$30 well spent.

Valerie Curren

Our older, 1940’s era, home was Forced to get a smart meter some years back by our municipality, expressly against our wishes!


Good Morning Patriots …

Vid clip was Rt’d by Benny – from 3 weeks ago


JJ Sefton’s Morning Report this a.m. at Ace HQ


snip … “It’s not that I think he should run; it’s almost as if he has to run. But, as I said, I don’t think of Trump anymore as a mere candidate. Whether you like it or not, he is now the leader of a much broader movement to, if not take back America (if that is even possible) but to save us from the abyss. And even then, I don’t think he or anyone can do that, at least not from a position of political leadership such as it was, because the nation itself is lost, the country irreversibly divided and so many institutions corrupted beyond redemption.

We’ll see what happens next. Until then, I can’t wait to see my in box.”

full article @



The last tweet from Benny was posted by me, in my typical ‘Mary Sunshine’ persona …

My alter ego, perpetually persistent pragmatist that she is … insists on being heard these days …

She says there won’t be an election in November, and to argue over Trump or DeSantis in 2024 is a waste of energy as there will be no election in 2024.


That possibility exists. I thought about it much Bill Barr was one of the problems stopping the election inquiry of fraught. I know there were other but he as AG had much pull he was in on the coup and is rewarded with a book. No one should buy it.
Now we know the machines are instruments for cheating or selecting people for office. Only the approved will pass just look at the looser in Congress.
Having said that we have to make a stand and vote regardless and flood the system that is our one chance. Trump is our leader and they fear him they see him as the head and want to cut him off from our movement. They will try to give us a replacement who is their stooge. We cannot give up hope and need to steam ahead otherwise we hand our freedom to a demonic entity.


Of course they are…

Biden Admin Is Placing Vending Machines Filled With Drug Supplies in Rural Kentucky

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Wonder if Turtle got his cut.

Paging Rand Paul for comment.

Gail Combs


Let’s see how many MORE FENTANYL OVERDOSES WE CAN CAUSE!   :wpds_mrgreen:   :wpds_envy:   :wpds_mad: 

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China Joe.

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Wow. It is very nice. Glad ya found it and shared. 🙂

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

Couldn’t have found it without your help, you put me on the Saturday track. TYSM!!❤



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That’s why I couldn’t find it – it’s one of the “separate tree and door” posts!

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

She used it a couple times.


An innocent man, Theodore Roosevelt Malloch, public servant, scholar, diplomat, strategist, author of 18 books and Trump supporter, gets harassed and threatened by FBI*.

*Typical Øbastid Modus Operandi – targeting dissent and opposition.


Trump Rally on Newsmax beat Fox News viewer count!

Newsmax had more than 1.03 million viewers during the Trump speech, with Fox News drawing just 942,000 viewers in the same time period.

During the rally, CNN reported only 406,000 viewers, and MSNBC 444,000.

The Newsmax ratings were even more impressive considering the network is carried in 20 million less homes than Fox News, but still outpaced the cable giant.


News on US Military Base, Pine Gap, Australia (Of course the info is projection, as Ukr is clearly losing and will lose …



Snip … “Australia could become a nuclear target due to its hosting of a US military base at Pine Gap in the Northern Territory, one of Australia’s leading defence strategists has warned.

Prof Paul Dibb, an emeritus professor at the Australian National University and former director of Australia’s Joint Intelligence Organisation, said the current Russian invasion of Ukraine carried potential global nuclear consequences, with the possibility of a defeated and humiliated Russia pushed closer to China in “a grand coalition … united not by ideology but by complementary grievances”.

Pine Gap is a highly secret US-Australian military installation near Alice Springs. It serves as a major hub for US global intelligence interception, and for satellite surveillance operations for military and nuclear missile threats in the region.

Russia is unlikely to be able to subjugate Ukraine in its current invasion, Dibb said, but Ukrainian military is unlikely to succeed in driving out Russian troops entirely. “Most likely there’ll be a negotiated conclusion, probably at the ceasefire talk.”

Regardless, Dibb argued, the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, was unlikely to be deposed as a result, but he would be a leader grown increasingly isolated, and the threat of nuclear escalation was real.

full article at link above


Nice graphics. And yeah, they don’t have much.


There’s another site w/ info on NATO you may find interesting


I think he’s mostly worried about this. 8 August after Pelosi adventure. He’s the expert mentioned in the story below. Just a guess, but he appears to want to decouple from the US in hopes China leaves them alone? My guess is he doesn’t trust the US any longer. Didn’t see any China connections in what else I looked at, which wasn’t much.

Australia is now facing “the probability of high-intensity conflict in our own immediate strategic environment”, a leading defence expert has warned, in the wake of what’s been described as a “significant escalation” from China against Taiwan.

Speaking to the ABC’s 7.30 program, Australian National University emeritus professor of strategic studies, Paul Dibb, said that “in four years flat, [the government] went from being confident in 10 years or more [of] warning time of a major threat …[to] recognition that warning time was over and finished”.

“We now face the probability of high-intensity conflict in our own immediate strategic environment,” Professor Dibb, a former director of the Defence Intelligence Organisation and the former deputy secretary for strategy and intelligence in the Department of Defence, added.

“Let’s be very frank, it’s [a] codename for a certain country to our distant north.”

Within the last 72 hours, Beijing fired a missile – for the first time ever – directly over the democratic island nation of 24 million people, part of a show of force after the Speaker of the US House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi visited Taiwan – a move Chinese authorities see as a provocation.

But they weren’t the only shots fired – as China’s aggression turned to the US and its allies, including Australia.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese. Picture: NCA NewsWire/Gary Ramage

China’s Assistant Foreign Minister Hua Chunying dragged Australia into the chaos with a few short sentences that would have caught the attention of Prime Minister Anthony Albanese.

Speaking after Australia’s Foreign Minister Penny Wong said Beijing’s actions were “deeply concerning” and “disproportionate and destabilising”, Ms Hua blamed the “US and its sidekicks” for moving the world closer to war.

“Our countermeasures are necessary as a warning to the provocateurs and as a step to uphold our sovereignty and security,” she said.

“Now the US and its sidekicks have spoken up accusing China of ‘overreacting’.

“But if they truly care about regional peace and stability, why hadn’t they stood up and tried to dissuade Pelosi early on? Couldn’t they have seen this coming and prevented it?

“I hope that the US and its handful of ‘buddies’ will realise that if they do respect the principle of democracy, then they should hear and respect the voice of the more than 1.4 billion Chinese people.”

I don’t think our allies, as much as they may of been, have that warm comfy feeling they had when Trump was in office.


So glad you posted this Para… I don’t see how they can “decouple” – do you ? Neocons have control there too I do understand his concern

Your info puts art I posted in an entirely different light … again, TY


esp the EU ! too competitive for US … and the decline of the Euro strengthens the USD … just biznus, right? with friends like US … (Neocons control the Brits)


They should ask themselves what benefit China gets from dragging Australia into anything. If they can’t figure it out, they should assume the dragon is most likely growling instead of crouching. IMO


Well considering the the upper echelon of Australia wanted to remove President Trump from office and were active in all of the previous coup attempts, I am not sure if this is leading up to a false flag event or what?

They are obviously attempting to set up Pelosi and the US as the aggressors.


Lots of assuming going on. Many people underestimated Vlad over the years (a slew of whom are no longer on this side of the lawn) but I challenge anyone to describe even one instance where he failed.

Gail Combs

Putin is SMART and he does very well in protecting Russia’s interests while walking an international tight rope.


Habibullo Abdussamatov the Russian astrophysicist has been PREDICTING GLOBAL COOLING FOR OVER A DECADE! He is the supervisor of the Astrometria project of the Russian section of the International Space Station and the head of Space research laboratory at the Saint Petersburg-based Pulkovo Observatory of the Russian Academy of Sciences. (WIKI)

…..The tendency of decrease in the global Earth temperature started in 2006–2008 will temporarily pause in 2010–2012. The increase in TSI within a short 11-year cycle 24 is expected to temporarily compensate the decrease in TSI within the ongoing 2-century variation. Only the decrease in TSI within the ongoing 11-year cycle 24 accompanied by continued decrease of its 2-century component in 2013–2015 will lead to stable subsequent cooling of our planet, which is expected to reach its minimum in the phase of a deep cooling by 2055–2060 ± 11 (Abdussamatov H.I. Bulletin of the Crimean Astrophysical Observatory. 2007. 103. No. 4. p. 292–298). The cooling can be similar to the one observed in the whole Europe, North America and Greenland in 1645–1715 in the period of Maunder minimum of solar luminosity and sunspot activity when the temperature will fall by 1–1.5 Celsius degrees down to the mark of the so-called Maunder minimum. The regular period of climatic minimum (the stage of global cooling) will last for approximately 45–65 years and the new warming will eventually come afterwards within the regular 2-century solar cycle. The deep cooling is expected to be regularly replaced by warming only by the beginning of 22nd century. A forecast of the global cooling by the middle of the 21st century and of the new 200-year cycle followed by global warming in the beginning of the 22nd century is shown on the figure….

#2. The Crimea/ Ukraine not only gives Putin access to the Bread Basket of Europe, It also gives Russia access to a WARM WATER PORT. When Russia hosted the Winter Games next door to Crimea, I predicted that Putin was going to make a grab for Crimea based on Dr Abdussamatov predictions. I was correct.

A presentation at Heartland by the good Doctor:
2014 – The Beginning of the New Little Ice Age

It is a set of easy to understand slides. many are graphs.

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Putin is allowing the Western globos to self-discredit, and China is, too, hoping to take over WEF and the UN. ALL of it is very smart play.

NATObama fell into a trap in Ukraine. Super tar pit for dinosaurs.

The Western elite who think this turns out nicely for them are, let us say, mistaken.


Afghanistan is where empires go to die. Looks like it is getting some competition from Ukraine.

Also, Putin is aware of that saying: never interfere with your adversary when he is making stupid moves.

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It took a heck of a pilot to pull out of the steep death dive of Soviet communism, and then the FLAK of the West.


Currently Life at MG Show:

A Conversation with Paul Manafort (
A Conversation with Paul Manafort
Paul Manafort, author of Political Prisoner: Persecuted, Prosecuted, but Not Silenced. As campaign chairman forDonald Trump’s 2016 residential campaign, Paul put into place the structure that delivered the nomination and eventually the general election for Donald J. Trump.


Paul comes out looking like a real hero with these interviews. Meanwhile everyone that dissed him gets the side eye. Hopes he gets wider coverage.


Eastern Economic Forum plenary session
The President took part in a plenary session of the Eastern Economic Forum. The theme this year is On the Path to a Multipolar World.

September 7, 2022 12:40 Russky Island, Primorye Territory

The event was also attended by Chairman of the State Administration Council, Prime Minister of the Caretaker Government and Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Myanmar Min Aung Hlaing,

Prime Minister of Armenia Nikol Pashinyan, Prime Minister of Mongolia Oyun-Erdene Luvsannamsrain, and Chairman of the Standing Committee of the National People’s Congress of China Li Zhanshu.

Prime Minister of India Narendra Modi, Prime Minister of Malaysia Ismail Sabri Yaakob and Prime Minister of Vietnam Pham Minh Chinh addressed the audience via video linkup.

Excerpt from President Putin’s speech:

snip … “Europe is about to throw its achievements in building up its manufacturing capability, the quality of life of its people and socioeconomic stability into the sanctions furnace, depleting its potential, as directed by Washington for the sake of the infamous Euro-Atlantic unity. In fact, this amounts to sacrifices in the name of preserving the dominance of the United States in global affairs.

The competitive ability of European companies is in decline, for the EU officials themselves are essentially cutting them off from affordable commodities and energy, as well as trade markets. It will come as no surprise if eventually the niches currently occupied by European businesses, both on the continent and on the global market in general, will be taken over by their American patrons who know no boundaries or hesitation when it comes to pursuing their interests and achieving their goals.”


I believe most of Putin’s speech is at the link above; one of the posters at MoA is transcribing and posting it later today.


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Fortunately, his apple didn’t fall far from his tree.

Gail Combs

I would not count on that. He Rand was FOR the trans-Pacific Partnership that would have put the USA into a collective similar to the EU with CHINA posed to be admitted as soon as the ink was dry. That is what was done with the World Trade Organization. Get the treaty signed AND THEN GET CHINA IN!

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We have learned the saving skepticism from all these tricks!  😅 


I hope he was simply misinformed. It seems like someone should ask him about that again and see if his position has changed.


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Too bad that Fabian asshole’s life wasn’t JUST a bit shorter, thereby donating fewer “mistakes” to our current situation.

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Not merely a useful idiot – a dangerous one.


My sentiments exactly and you said it better than I could have.

Gail Combs

The Fabians are NASTY Slavers to put it very bluntly.

Gail Combs

ℑ𝔱 𝔦𝔰 𝔇𝔞𝔫𝔤𝔢𝔯𝔬𝔲𝔰 𝔱𝔬 𝔄𝔱𝔱𝔯𝔦𝔟𝔲𝔱𝔢 𝔱𝔬 𝔖𝔱𝔲𝔭𝔦𝔡𝔦𝔱𝔶 𝔱𝔥𝔞𝔱 𝔴𝔥𝔦𝔠𝔥 ℭ𝔬𝔲𝔩𝔡 𝔅𝔢 𝔱𝔥𝔢 ℜ𝔢𝔰𝔲𝔩𝔱 𝔬𝔣 𝔐𝔞𝔩𝔦𝔠𝔢 𝔬𝔯 𝔊𝔲𝔦𝔩𝔢. — Aubergine’s Razor


Straight from Fabian co-founder George Bernard Shaw

The moment we face it frankly we are driven to the conclusion that the community has a right to put a price on the right to live in it … If people are fit to live, let them live under decent human conditions. If they are not fit to live, kill them in a decent human way. Is it any wonder that some of us are driven to prescribe the lethal chamber as the solution for the hard cases which are at present made the excuse for dragging all the other cases down to their level, and the only solution that will create a sense of full social responsibility in modern populations?”

Source: George Bernard Shaw, Prefaces (London: Constable and Co., 1934), p. 296.


Under Socialism, you would not be allowed to be poor. You would be forcibly fed, clothed, lodged, taught, and employed whether you liked it or not. If it were discovered that you had not character and industry enough to be worth all this trouble, you might possibly be executed in a kindly manner; but whilst you were permitted to live, you would have to live well.”

George Bernard Shaw: The Intelligent Woman’s Guide to Socialism and Capitalism, 1928, pg. 470

Sure sounds like the way a farmer treats his livestock.
And it is working….

Peter Singer’s Bold Defense of Infanticide:

Singer is the Decamp Professor of Bio-Ethics at Princeton University.

In 1979 he wrote,“Human babies are not born self-aware, or capable of grasping that they exist over time. They are not persons”; therefore, “the life of a newborn is of less value than the life of a pig, a dog, or a chimpanzee.””

After-Birth Abortions: College Students Increasingly Support Infanticide

“… in interviews that not only do they see more college students willing to say they support post-birth abortion, but some students even suggest children up to 4 or 5-years-old can also be killed, because they are not yet “self aware.”’

That is a real slippery slope.

UK Hospitals ‘paid millions to put patients on [Liverpool] death pathway

“Hospitals are being paid millions of pounds to reach targets for the number of patients put on a controversial pathway for the withdrawal of life-saving treatment, according to data based on Freedom of Information requests.”

This is the type of National ‘Health Care’ the Progressives want to gradually introduce in the USA via Obummercare. NOW we KNOW I was correct all those years ago when OH!Bummer was president.

UK Doctor Admits To Starving Babies To Death, Using ‘End-Of-Life’ Care

Bernadette Lloyd, a hospice pediatric nurse, … wrote: “The parents feel coerced, at a very traumatic time, into agreeing that this is correct for their child whom they are told by doctors has only has a few days to live. It is very difficult to predict death. I have seen a ‘reasonable’ number of children recover after being taken off the pathway.”

I have also seen children die in terrible thirst because fluids are withdrawn from them until they die.”

Lloyd goes on to describe the death of a young cancer patient on a death pathway plan: “I witnessed a 14 year-old boy with cancer die with his tongue stuck to the roof of his mouth when doctors refused to give him liquids by tube. His death was agonist for him, and for us nurses to watch. This is euthanasia by the backdoor.” [I call it TORTURE and MURDER! – GC]

One doctor admitted to participating in the starvation death of ten newborns. Death pathway “care” involves withdrawing food and fluid by tube is being used on young patients as well as severely disabled newborn babies. The doctor, who remained anonymous, reports that the parent-approved death pathways often take much longer than parents realize.

It can take ten days for a baby to die of starvation and dehydration. The doctor who wrote about his experiences admits to starving and dehydrating ten babies to death in the neonatal unit of one hospital alone. He describes the babies becoming “smaller and shrunken” as they waste away….

(I think this maybe what Northrup as a pediatrician was doing in Virgina.)


Words fail me…


There is a very special place in the Pits of Hell for these people.


Doctors know how painful death by starvation/dehydration is, yes they do.


Germany’s Energy Suicide: An Autopsy

Pepe Escobar September 7, 2022

The EU has weaponized the supply of European energy on behalf of a financial racket, against the interests of European industry and consumers.

When Green fanatic Robert Habeck, posing as Germany’s Economy Minister, said earlier this week “we should expect the worst” in terms of energy security, he conveniently forgot to spell out how the whole farce is a Made in Germany cum Made in Brussels crisis.

Flickers of intelligence at least still glow in rare Western latitudes, as indispensable strategic analyst William Engdahl, author of A Century of Oil, released a sharp, concise summary  revealing the skeletons in the glamour closet.

Everyone with a brain following the ghastly Eurocrat machinations in Brussels was aware of the main plot – yet hardly anyone among average EU citizens. Habeck, Chancellor “Liver Sausage” Scholz, the European Commission (EC) Green Energy VP Timmermans, EC dominatrix Ursula von der Leyen, they are all involved.

In a nutshell: as Engdahl describes it, this is about “the EU plan to de-industrialize one of the most energy-efficient industrial concentrations on the planet.”

That’s a practical translation of the UN Green Agenda 2030 – which happens to be metastasized into crypto Bond villain Klaus Schwab’s Great Reset – now renamed “Great Narrative”.

The whole scam started way back in the early 2000s: I remember it vividly, as Brussels used to be my European base in the early “war on terror” years.

At the time, the talk of the town was the “European energy policy”. The dirty secret of such policy is that the EC, “ advised” by JP MorganChase as well as the usual mega speculative hedge funds, went all out into what Engdahl describes as “a complete deregulation of the European market for natural gas.”

That was sold to the Lugenpresse (“lying media”) as “liberalization”. In practice, that’s savage, unregulated casino capitalism, with the “free” market fixing prices while dumping long-term contracts – such as the ones struck with Gazprom.

How to decarbonize and destabilize

The process was turbo-charged in 2016, when the last gasp of the Obama administration encouraged massive export of LNG out of the U.S.’s huge shale gas production.

For that one needs to build LNG terminals. Each terminal takes as much as 5 years to build. Within the EU, Poland and Holland went for it from the start.

As much as Wall Street in the past invented a “ paper oil” speculative market, this time they went for a speculative “paper gas” market.

Engdahl details how “the EU Commission and their Green Deal agenda to ‘decarbonize’ the economy by 2050, eliminating oil, gas and coal fuels, provided the ideal trap that has led to the explosive spike in EU gas prices since 2021.”

The creation of this “single” market control implied forcing illegal rule changes on Gazprom. In practice, Big Finance and Big Energy – which totally control anything that passes for “EU policy” in Brussels – invented a new pricing system parallel to the long-term, stable prices of Russian pipeline gas.

By 2019, an avalanche of Eurocrat energy “ directives” by the EC – the only thing these people do – had established a totally deregulated gas market trading, setting the prices for natural gas in the EU even as Gazprom remained the largest supplier.

As lots of virtual trading hubs in gas futures contracts started popping up across the EU, enter the Dutch TTF (Title Transfer Facility). By 2020 the TTF was established as the real EU gas benchmark.

As Engdahl points out, “TTF is a virtual platform of trades in futures gas contracts between banks and other financial investors. Outside, of course, of any regulated exchange.

So LNG prices soon started to be set by futures trades in the TTF hub, which crucially happens to be owned by the Dutch government – “the same government destroying its farms for a fraudulent nitrogen pollution claim.”

By any means necessary Big Finance had to get rid of Gazprom as a reliable source to allow powerful financial interests behind the Green Deal racket to dominate the LNG market.

Engdahl evokes a case very few know about across Europe: “On May 12, 2022 although Gazprom deliveries to the Soyuz gas pipeline through Ukraine were uninterrupted for almost three months of conflict, despite Russia’s military operations in Ukraine, the NATO-controlled Zelensky regime in Kiev closed a major Russian pipeline through Lugansk, that was bringing Russian gas both to his Ukraine as well as EU states, declaring it would remain closed until Kiev gets full control of its pipeline system that runs through the two Donbass republics. That section of the Ukraine Soyuz line cut one-third of gas via Soyuz to the EU. It certainly did not help the EU economy at a time Kiev was begging for more weapons from those same NATO countries. So yuz opened in 1980 under the Soviet Union bringing gas from the Orenburg gas field.”