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Perspective

“What is the chief end of man?”
“Man’s chief end is to glorify God,
and to enjoy him forever.” 

The Bible says that God created all things—including us—for Himself. He is glorified in His creation. “From Him and through Him and for Him are all things. To Him be the glory forever! Amen” (Romans 11:36).

It may be hard to see how Adam and Eve’s falling into sin could bring glory to God. In fact, some might even wonder why, if God knew ahead of time all the trouble they would cause, He made them in the first place.

God is omniscient (Psalm 139:1–6), and He knows the future (Isaiah 46:10). So He definitely knew that Adam and Eve would sin. But He created them anyway and gave them a free will with which they chose to sin.

We must note that Adam and Eve’s falling into sin does not mean that God is the author of sin or that He tempted them to sin (James 1:13). But the fall does serve the purpose of God’s overall plan for creation and mankind.

If we consider the overarching story line of Scripture, we see that biblical history can be roughly divided into three main sections: 1) paradise (Genesis 1—2); 2) paradise lost (Genesis 3—Revelation 20); and 3) paradise regained (Revelation 21—22). By far the largest part of the narrative is devoted to the transition from paradise lost to paradise regained. At the center of this narrative is the cross, which was planned from the very beginning (Acts 2:23).

From God’s Word, we are led to the following conclusions:
1. The fall of mankind was foreknown by God.
2. The crucifixion of Christ, the atonement for God’s elect, was foreordained by God.
3. All people will one day glorify God (Psalm 86:9), and God purposes “to bring unity to all things in heaven and on earth under Christ” (Ephesians 1:10).

God’s purpose was to create a world in which His glory could be manifest in all its fullness. The glory of God is the overarching goal of creation. In fact, it is the overarching goal of everything He does. The universe was created to display God’s glory (Psalm 19:1), and the wrath of God is revealed against those who fail to glorify God (Romans 1:18–25). The world that best displays the glory of God is the world we have—a world that was allowed to fall, a world that was redeemed, a world that will be restored to its original perfection.

God’s wrath and God’s mercy display the riches of His glory, but we cannot see either without the fall of mankind. We would never know grace if we had never needed grace. Therefore, all of God’s plan—including the fall, election, redemption, and atonement of mankind—serves the purpose of glorifying God. When man fell into sin, God’s mercy was immediately displayed in God’s not killing him on the spot. God’s grace was immediately evident in the covering He provided for their shame (Genesis 3:21).

God’s patience and forbearance were later on display as mankind fell deeper and deeper into sin. God’s justice and wrath were on display when He sent the flood, and God’s mercy and grace were again demonstrated when He saved Noah and his family. God’s holy wrath and perfect justice will be seen in the future when He deals with Satan once and for all (Revelation 20:7–10).

God’s glory is also revealed in His love (1 John 4:16). Our knowledge of God’s love comes from the Person and saving work of Jesus Christ in this fallen world. “This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him” (1 John 4:9). Had God decided not to create Adam and Eve, based on His knowledge of their fall—or had He made them automatons with no volition—we would never have truly known what love is.

The ultimate exhibition of God’s glory was at the cross where His wrath, justice, and mercy met. The righteous judgment of all sin was executed at the cross, and God’s grace was on display in His Son’s words, “Father, forgive them” (Luke 23:34). God’s love and grace are manifest in those whom He has saved (John 3:16; Ephesians 2:8–10). In the end, God will be glorified as His chosen people worship Him for all eternity with the angels, and the wicked will also glorify God as His righteousness results in the eternal punishment of unrepentant sinners (Philippians 2:11). Without the fall of Adam and Eve, we would never know God’s justice, grace, mercy, or love.

God foresaw Adam and Eve’s fall. He created them (and us) anyway, in His own image, to bring glory to Himself. They were given freedom to make choices. Even though they chose to disobey, their choice became the means by which God’s ultimate will was carried out and by which His full glory will be seen.

https://www.gotquestions.org/if-God-knew-Adam-Eve-sin.html


Give glory to God . . .
There is no higher calling.

Then that is precisely
how we should be living.

So . . . whatever you do,
do all to the glory of God.

I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:1-2

Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, and to present you faultless before the presence of His glory with exceeding joy, to God our Savior, Who alone is wise, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and forever.
Amen.
Jude 1:24-25

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michaelh

Tim Hawkins – The Government Can

TheseTruths

Tim Hawkins is a riot! And so talented.

Gail Combs

That was great!

Valerie Curren

Tim Hawkins is one of our family’s favorite Christian comedians. We were blessed to see him in person a few years back. Laughter is definitely the best medicine!!!

pgroup2

A good day to be alive.

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Valerie Curren

Yes & it was an absolutely Glorious Sunrise today too. Hope hubby got some pics I might then share later. God is The Artist of eternity!

TheseTruths

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TheseTruths

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scott467

“What’s going to happen when Americans figure out that their friends and family and children are dying suddenly because of dangerous vaccines…”

_____________

They’ll find out we were right.

And when they realize we were right about that, maybe they’ll wonder what else we might be right about.

I know, fat chance 😁

Brave and Free

The wife and I were just having this discussion this morning. What are the vaxxed going to say or do when they realize they’ve been lied to?

michaelh

Probably something along the lines of “I’ll you see in court, you jerk!” but more spicy

Gail Combs

AND their son or daughter DIED as a result…

Aubergine

It’s happening. I have seen the evidence in my own family and circle.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I will listen to this momentarily, but this is the woman behind “suramin in pine needle tea” disinformation that then got several opponents of the vaccines discredited.

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Aubergine

Wolf, that pine needle tea shit is still being spread! It drives me nuts every time I run across it!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This gal is problematic. She has to be a darling of the feds and the ESG cabal. She really makes the case for “action” about disinformation.

Aubergine

Discernment on our part is desperately needed.

Last night, a genealogist friend of mine sent me a link to an article about Adam Schiff, and told me to read the first comment on it.

The commenter claimed that Adam Schiff is a direct descendant of Jacob Schiff who was a direct funder of the Bolshevik Revolution.

It took me ten minutes to debunk that, with records to prove it.

People need to do some damned research before they believe stuff.

Charlie

Thank You for the insight.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yeah, she is a “useful idiot”. She’s reading science she doesn’t fully understand, throwing in a lot of suspicions and suppositions, and generating hogwash.

Stew Peters is clickbaiting the hogwash.

Valerie Curren

That is so Incredibly Encouraging. Keep sharing the details please!!!

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

phoenixrising

“… which were supposed to protect them from a virus created by their government?”

~ Emerald Robinson

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Too many HERE do not accept this yet … still blaming China…

Wake up!

pgroup2

Co-conspirators.

Gail Combs

𝗥𝗔𝗟𝗣𝗛 𝗕𝗔𝗥𝗜𝗖 𝗔𝗡𝗗 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗕𝗔𝗧 𝗟𝗔𝗗𝗬 ( 𝗖𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗮’𝘀 𝗦𝗵𝗶 𝗭𝗵𝗲𝗻𝗴𝗹𝗶) 𝗔𝗡𝗗 𝗙𝗔𝗨𝗖𝗜

para59r

Yep, a thing born in the darkest corners of WEF and the darker corners of the CCP.

Gingersmom2009

Read the second sentence a second time.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. Our government is run by conspiring depoppers, and TOADIES thereof.

kalbokalbs

Yup.

TheseTruths

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

QUESTIONS. We’ve got ’em!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Amen!

This is a rough lesson, and one that I accept mostly on faith, but the reasons given do make sense, and I accept them.

Glory to God!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

More information about the Idaho case. Apparently there had been loud partying at that house on occasion.

https://nypost.com/2023/01/14/kaylee-goncalves-had-moved-out-of-home-before-idaho-murders/

Aubergine

I remain convinced that there is a second person involved.

Kohberger and his defense team also filed a request for discovery this week, asking among other things for information about a “co-defendant” in the case.

The probable cause affidavit does not identify a co-defendant and authorities have not suggested that Kohberger may have had an accomplice when he allegedly murdered Madison Mogen, 21; Kaylee Goncalves, 21; Xana Kernodle, 20; and Ethan Chapin, 20.”

https://www.insideedition.com/bryan-kohberger-co-defendant-accomplice-idaho-murders

Remember, the first question he asked when arrested was whether anyone else had been.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. I’m open to this possibility – although one possibility within that, is that HE is in fact the second person.

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Aubergine

Yes, I agree. That is a possibility. And that would make for a very interesting trial.

TheseTruths

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She probably isn’t even a real person.

scott467

So what exactly is she trying to say with that presentation?

cthulhu

Just think of it as a mannequin in a gun store window.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Where the store is run by Dodge & FIB!

TheseTruths

“Hi, guys. I’m a hot chick wielding a big gun, which proves I’m a freedom-lover of like mind with you. Let’s talk” so the Feds can monitor your speech and try to entrap you in a crime.

scott467

Looks like she’s about 12, and got into Mommy’s make-up.

And Daddy’s AK.

He’s not gonna be happy about that sticker.

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TheseTruths

Yes, it looks like somoene tried to put together a lot of supposed markers of beauty and attractiveness and Photoshopped them in, and they overdid it. It looks like a doll’s face; kind of creepy.

cthulhu

The face may be entirely synthetic, with the hands coming around the wooden background. It looks vaguely familiar, as if it were from an advertisement for a robot receptionist….

BillBeakman

Yep & too young for full development of brain’s frontal lobe. Not having reached the age where judgment is more likely, I’d not pick her for any kind of leadership. Sorry FIB…

pgroup2

She’s young enough to lead a certain type of person by the nose.

BillBeakman

FIB is counting on it…

Valerie Curren

Here’s a fun exercise…just keep reloading…

https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/

https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/image

This is the info that pops up on that image…

Imagined by a GAN (generative adversarial network)
StyleGAN2 (Dec 2019) – Karras et al. and Nvidia
Don’t panic. Learn how it works [1] [2] [3]
Code for training your own [original] [simple] [light]
Art • Cats • Horses • Chemicals • Contact me
Another | Sponsor | Dream up any image

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had to put image through gab to get it to show (I hope it shows)…

https://gab.com/ValerieCurren/posts/109693518846330128

Valerie Curren

here’s one the algorithm messed up

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ValerieCurren
 Valerie Curren
Original Gabber

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here’s one that the algorithm messed up LOL

they can fool Some of the people some of the time!

Imagined by a GAN (generative adversarial network)

StyleGAN2 (Dec 2019) – Karras et al. and Nvidia

Don’t panic. Learn how it works [1] [2] [3]

Code for training your own [original] [simple] [light]

Art • Cats • Horses • Chemicals • Contact me
Another | Sponsor | Dream up any image

https://gab.com/ValerieCurren/posts/109693534940379273

Valerie Curren

another mess up

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ValerieCurren
 Valerie Curren
Original Gabber

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31s
& another

Imagined by a GAN (generative adversarial network)

StyleGAN2 (Dec 2019) – Karras et al. and Nvidia

Don’t panic. Learn how it works [1] [2] [3]

Code for training your own [original] [simple] [light]

Art • Cats • Horses • Chemicals • Contact me
Another | Sponsor | Dream up any image

https://gab.com/ValerieCurren/posts/109693545428113071

Valerie Curren

I wonder if any techies can use the “reflections” to “prove” falsity???

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Valerie Curren
Valerie Curren

So after reloading the original page a bunch of times it appears that the program focuses on the basics of the face including believable imperfections in skin & hair. The periphery of the image like background, clothing, visible “skin” (shoulders, arms, hands), & accessories (glasses, hats, & jewelry) appear to be where the “errors” are most visible to my untrained eye. Also where the background bends or the skin meets the background there are issues that make Some of the images just Not Quite Right…

Valerie Curren

Here’s an example of peripheral problems…

This person’s friend looks like a cartoon bubble person–LOL

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Valerie Curren

This reminds me of some of the obvious fakes of Bye-Done’s early “press” encounters of this current Usurpation…

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TheseTruths

The gas stove bait and switch. It’s not about gas stoves; it’s about something else they are trying to get us to compromise on. This article says it’s indoor air quality. The stoves were a vehicle to get us there. The more that people can recognize these tactics, the less they’ll be able to be taken in.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/what-us-gas-stove-ban-really-about

The article describes how the narrative is being pushed in various ways all over the world.

WHERE DOES THIS LEAD?

Well, if I had to guess I would suggest some new “smart” technology is coming that will monitor air quality and indoor C02 emissions. Like smart electricity and water meters, but for your air.

As part of “backing down” from the stove ban, they will introduce a new bill which sees “smart air monitors” become mandatory in all new-build houses, hotels and rented accommodation.

Just like smart electricity meters, smart air monitors would almost certainly be used to harvest huge amounts of data and give states or corporations the ability to control your home.

TheseTruths

The gas stove problem, fixed.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL!!!

scott467

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Not me!  😅 

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scott467

Not me either! 😂

para59r

Heck, I’m not even allowed to touch the gas stove. I seriously doubt the govt will have much of a chance, but hey, they can have at it if their feeling that froggy.

pgroup2

Let’s all use ‘froggy’ as much as we can. Make it trend on twatter.

cthulhu

We really need to start charging through these ambushes.

The Feds aren’t supposed to be doing general police or health — that’s reserved to the states. Article I, Section 8 is SHORT and SWEET.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish a uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards and other needful Buildings;-And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

That is IT. Any Agency purporting to be part of the Federal Government and regulating gas stoves needs to be completely eliminated.

Further, this new “pistol brace” BS…..perhaps we should get back to the “shall not be infringed” and eliminate the F part of ATF. Come to think of it, I don’t see anything about the A or T parts in this list, either.

I don’t see dishwashers, showerheads, or light bulbs here. Nor do I see “To set the minimum wage of laborers” anywhere. I don’t see speed limits or mileage standards, regulation of discharges into the air or water, or maintenance of a vast prison system (you’ll note that counterfeiting money is specifically mentioned as a Federal crime, and I know that treason is defined in a separate section….are there any other Federal crimes that are Constitutional?).

The quoted section comes right out of our Constitution. If the Feds were supposed to be doing anything else, they should propose to amend The Constitution — like they did for Prohibition (the Eighteenth Amendment, repealed by the Twenty-First). Why should there be any Federal involvement in alcohol after the repeal? It was necessary to amend The Constitution to regulate it in the first place.

There are other Amendments, duly enacted, that have made changes to this short list — but nothing to begin to justify the horrific scale of The Swamp.

scott467

None of that stuff means anything.

Nobody pays any attention to the Constitution anymore, because nobody protected or defended it.

We paid the military a crap load of money to do that job, and they swore an oath to do it, but then they didn’t.

cthulhu

As an off-topic aside, I’ve been truly impressed by your knowledge of Corvettes, inside and out. It’s too bad that it wasn’t formatted in such a way that it could get a sidebar post.

scott467

Thank you, but the old-timers on the Corvette forums put me to shame 😁

I’ve only been at it for around 15 years. Lots of them have owned and driven and worked on these cars for 50+ years. And some 60+ years!

cthulhu

Look, there are also some digital engineers that can talk your ear off about NAND gates — I found your treatment to be understandable, enjoyable, and informative….because it was at the right level of detail to engage someone who wasn’t “all-in”.

Unfortunately, because it was a bunch of comments responding to comments, it wasn’t particularly linear, so there’d be some editing to make it look like a post. But there’s a lot of good stuff in there.

scott467

You might actually enjoy the amount of detail.

I measured and looked up every bolt, screw, lock washer, special washer, etc. on the car after I cleaned them on an an antique bench grinder with wire wheels.

A fun job in and of itself 👍 😁

Every bolt, screw, washer, etc. from the car is currently in a zip lock bag, with a card the size of a business card inside, printed with all the identification details of that part, and the bags are in the same order as the page numbers in the Assembly Manual, so I can find any part in about 30 second or less.

Each bolt or washer or screw ID card looks like this:

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4 x Bolt, Uppr Rear 3878222 Supt. To Lwr 3841699 Brkt

(4 bolts total, 2 with only LW, 1 FW & LW, 1 with no LW or FW )

 
Head: Reg Hex (9/16” ATF)…………. Torque: 20-30 Lbs/Ft
Tip: Flat .. (au G312, G314, G441) .. Headmark: “UR”
Grade: 5 ….. (original) ……………….. Finish: Cad or zinc
Total Req: 3? I have 4… ……………….TC: 19  Useable: 4
 
Measured: 3/8-16 x 1-1/4” (threaded all the way)
GM Spec: 3/8-16 x 1-1/4” (68IPB, i631, Gr. 8.900)

(79PNR&S superseded to 179841, superseded to 9420462, listed in 83SPC, Gr. 8.900, 3/8-16 x 1-1/4”, Hex head, black phos, 300M)

UPC: C60-C1, Item 5, GM 122145 (L79) (G312)
 
Need: zero   (Rel: 103321 LW, 3706737 Spl. Washer)
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It’s also on my computer, using a business card template so they could printed out on regular size 8.5″ x 11″ sheets and then cut to the size of business cards, so I can search for any part number and go right to it.

The GM Spec is usually the measurement given in the October 1966 GM Dealer Parts Counter catalog, called a “P&A” or Parts & Accessories” catalog, unless the part isn’t listed, in which case an alternate GM source was used.

The reason for using the late 1966 parts catalog is because 1967 Corvette model year production began in late 1966. I have most of the GM parts catalogs from 1962-1977 though, so I can track part changes (listed in the ‘Revision Record’ section on each page of the Assembly Manual) through the years.

I also include the actual measurements of the part, because they’re usually, but not always, the same as the official GM specified measurement.

This particular bolt wasn’t listed in the 1966 P&A catalog, but I found it in the GM Dealer 1968 Illustrated Parts Book, on page 631, Group 8.900

‘TC’ stands for Thread Count, which means what it sounds like. You take your fingernail, and run it across the bolt threads, counting the number of times your fingernail drops down into the ‘valley’ between threads.

This bolt has a thread count of 19. You can be sure I didn’t do that for fun, it became necessary, because a lot of bolts that come off of an old car are not salvageable. They are either too corroded, or broken, or had to be cut off to remove, etc.

For critical load bearing connections I’ll use new bolts. It’s not worth having the steering linkage (or similar) break while you’re driving, just for originality sake. Places like AMK have new bolts with many of the original headmarks, and I know which headmarks to look for, since I have the originals that came off the car.

Using the originals is always better though, if possible, for parts that don’t present a safety issue. Most need to be replated, whether zinc, cadmium, black phospate, etc., depending on whatever type of plating the original had.

If you are looking for original (used) bolts to replace corroded or broken bolts, one of the few places you can get original replacement bolts from old GM cars (and Corvettes in particular) is eBay.

But you have to know exactly what you’re looking for, because most of the time, the Seller won’t know for sure, or he’s not saying, because he’s there to sell parts, not help you figure out whether the part he’s selling is the part you’re actually looking for 😁

One of the problems with buying used original bolts on eBay is that lots of bolts look very similar, even with the correct manufacturer headmark, but came in varying lengths.

The eBay seller is almost never going to provide the size data (e.g., 3/8-16 x 1-1/4”) for the bolts he is selling.

And you can’t eyeball accurately it from the photo.

But what you can do is take your mouse pointer, and use it to count the number of threads on the bolt in the eBay photo.

And if it matches the Thread Count on the bolt that you need to replace, then you have found the right length bolt.

If it doesn’t match, then you’ve saved yourself from making the mistake of buying the wrong part, at $10 to the sky’s the limit (for some rare bolts).

LW = lock washer, FW = flat washer, Spl = special, ATF = across the flats measurement

The boldface line near the bottom is the location where the part is found in the 1967 Corvette Assembly Manual:

UPC: C60-C1, Item 5, GM 122145 (L79) (G312)

The Assembly Manuals have regular page numbers, preceded by a letter.

1963 uses ‘C’, 1964 uses ‘D’, 1965 uses ‘E’, 1966 uses ‘F’ and 1967 uses ‘G’.

GM part number 122145 is found on page G312 of my particular Assembly Manual, which is the oldest used 1967 Assembly Manual I could find, because the oldest Assembly Manuals have the clearest print, due to being earlier generations (of copies, of copies, of copies, etc.). Much better than the current production copies.

There have been lots of Assembly Manuals copied and reprinted by various vendors over the years, so they don’t always have all of the pages in the same order, and some are actually missing a page or two, where others will have those pages but missing some other page, so in order to get a complete manual you will need to track down a few missing pages.

The technically correct page number (where this specific part is located) is C60-C1, and that will not change no matter what Assembly Manual you have. But where that page is G312 in my Assembly Manual, it might be on page G315 in the Assembly Manual being sold by another vendor.

C60 is the air conditioner parts section, for under the hood air conditioning parts, and Sheet (page) C1 is the specific page for the part in question.

On that page, the specific part is Item 5, listed as “122145 BOLT” for the L79 high performance small block engine. The standard 300hp engine bolt is also listed, GM 180122 BOLT.

The Assembly Manual (called an ‘AIM’ for ‘Assembly Instruction Manual’) looks like this:

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That’s showing a couple of the door pages, just for an example. I can’t find my original (scanned into my PC) before I marked it all up with searchable text for notes and part numbers.

Just realized it’s late, good night! 😂

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cthulhu

Oh, man…..there is so much to know about screws and it is so late to start talking about them.

Ever wonder why screws are marked “4-40” or “10-32”?

The “fatness” of everything less than a quarter inch is sorted by wire gauge — that’s the 4 or the 10. Unlike shotguns, wire gauge is smaller at small numbers and bigger at big numbers. Each size has two defined threads — coarse or fine.

That’s when you hit this table — https://www.instockfasteners.com/TOOLS/ScrewThreadTables.ASP .

For a cylinder of 4 gauge, “coarse” is 40 and “fine” is 48. If you had a rod a couple of inches long, you could easily see that there were 40 threads per inch in a coarse thread and 48 threads per inch in a fine.

Similarly, for a cylinder of 10 gauge, the TPI would be 24 or 32.

You might impose this on a cylinder using a die, or impose it on a block of metal with a hole using a tap. In either case, you would want to provide a bit of relief so that the screw wouldn’t immediately seize.

In the event that you did not have the proper tap or die, especially if you were using non-standard measurements of whatever sort, you could “single point” your thread on a lathe. You could make 10-27 screws on a lathe, and 10-27 nuts to work with the screws, even though you couldn’t buy them in stores.

But it is late….

scott467

Indeed, we are going down the TPI rabbit hole 👍 😁

I had to figure all that stuff out early on, so I used these two tools to do it.

Thread Detective:
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and

Boltsize-It Gauge
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Valerie Curren

Agreed…compiling it into a stand alone post would allow for easier access, further discussion, & a way to “lure” certain “normies” to the Q-Tree for potential enlightenment!

scott467

It’s a pretty narrow niche of the public that gives two hoots about things like original bolt, screw, nut and washer details for a 55 year old car 😁

They only made 22,940 Corvettes in 1967 (8,504 coupes and 14,436 convertibles), and 5+ decades later, I would guess that maybe only half of them still survive in some kind of condition.

So maybe less than 11,500 of the ’67 Corvettes remain, in a nation of (supposedly) 330+ million people.

And those people who are interested do already have entire websites devoted to this subject matter, like The Corvette Forum and the NCRS Technical Discussion Board (National Corvette Restorers Society), among others. 👍

Valerie Curren

Well I for one appreciate your presentation of that material…but I have Very Eclectic interests 🙂

cthulhu

Every so often, we get a little favorable bump. It might be in the courts, it might be a Governor’s EO, it might be a bunch of Illinois sheriffs telling Pritzker that he can enforce his own wet dreams….but the big money and the big inertia is on the side of illegal anti-Constitutional overreach. It likely will not be resolved through a Deus ex machina of any sort — military, SCOTUS, or patriot uprising — it will more probably be a long, hard slog of Honor against Mammon.

But, as the Gurkha anecdote from yesterday well illustrates, sometimes Honor finds unexpected allies.

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TheseTruths

We really need to start charging through these ambushes.

I’m in total agreement. On a different topic, I saw a meme using Clause 17 to say that Congress has the power to free the J6 prisoners because it has been given jurisdiction over D.C. (I expect this to be shot down; just presenting it in case anyone knows about it.)

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards and other needful Buildings;

One issue that immediately springs to mind is that Congress consists of the House and the Senate, not just the House.

cthulhu

I would not be surprised at all if Congress could order this release — or, alternatively, could order consequences for a lack of release — if they weren’t gutless anti-American catamites with delusions of grandeur.

Barb Meier

Congress could take back the extra local power they granted DC too, right?

pgroup2

My oh my, but you have such wonderful dreams.

Barb Meier

Thank you, pgroup. Just think how much happier life might be if I were queen for a day. Gitmo would be filled to capacity and fedgov would be 1/1,000th of its current size for starters.

Valerie Curren

I could tolerate That kind of limited royalty 😉

TradeBait2

Such a simple concept. Anything beyond it is illegal.

It’s the Pharisees and Sadducees all over again, just in a Rome like setting of DC. They build case law, add regulations, and such to divert around Constitutional law. It is then all treated as legal until challenged and proven to be illegal by a politicized Supreme Court who arbitrarily decides what cases they will hear after years and decades languishing in lower courts.

Then the criminals take over the White House and Congress to push away enforcement.

Barb Meier

We’re gonna need more cattle prods.

Brave and Free

And just like that, there’s a piece on the local news this morning about stoves glass doors exploding all over the country. Did anyone else see this in their areas?
Hmmmm not gaslighting anyone are we?

para59r

This is almost hilarious. Yep, lots of stories perking up out there. Saw one for Kenmore, one for Whirl Pool, and one for Samsung. Common cause seems to be the auto cleaning function, but happening in other situations also to include while cold and not operating.

Any chance that stove glass doors are on Brandon’s list of critical infrastructure? How about fiddling with the gas pressure to appliances in the home?

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Deplorable Patriot

Auto-cleaning….

The temps too hot for the temper glass?

kalbokalbs

Imagine the goofs running off to HD or Lowe’s to purchase their first electric stove.

After all, gotta replace their perfectly good gas stove.  😟 

scott467

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Deplorable Patriot

The oven door that exploded at my house was on the electric stove, not any of the gas ones. And the only other issue was the circuits on the first gas stove being blown out during a thunderstorm. Silver fire as the electronic ignition soldered itself.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

You have exceeded your allotment of CO2 emissions,

YOU MUST STOP EXHALING IMMEDIATELY!!!!!

scott467

“YOU MUST STOP EXHALING IMMEDIATELY!!!!!”

___________

Except me… I have a note, from Epstein’s mother…

Not that Epstein, the other one, Juan Epstein, from Welcome Back, Kotter 😁

Deplorable Patriot

Philodendrons….

Hmmm….

Known to clean up indoor air quality.

Hmmm….

How to mess with government regulations.

Hmmm….

And those plants are hard to kill, too.

Gail Combs

Philodendrons….
Just be careful they do not take over…
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Deplorable Patriot

I see devil’s ivy, a wandering jew, a Boston fern, orchids….

That philodendron is really well maintained.

Deplorable Patriot

It’s called open the windows from time to time.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

pgroup2

Save a seat for me.

BTW, there’s an alternative way to read Miss Universe – as in a command e.g. miss the next stop.

TheseTruths

I wasn’t paying attention to this until I happened to come across a tweet with him/”her” speaking at the pageant. It’s a man’s voice coming out of a body that has done a much better job of looking like a woman than a lot of “trannies.” It was jarring. And IMO women should be up in arms that men are being allowed to mock them like this and take over their events.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yeah, I’m not OK with the idea that it is “illegal discrimination” to differentiate in any way between ACTUAL women and “trans women”. That is the ultimate slippery slope to the worst tyranny imaginable – where reality is taken away from us.

We need that conversation.

IMO, if we cannot “discriminate” in any way between gay marriage and regular marriage, or between “trans” people and “actual” people, then screw it – I’m against these new forms of coddled unrealities which threaten simple TRUTH.

I’m sorry, but I would not want to date or marry a “trans woman”. I’m going to discriminate. I discriminate in what I will buy as a damn car or truck. Why can I not “discriminate” in who I choose to marry?

pgroup2

Well, have you ever seen those ‘not stocked anymore’ sections of stores, where they dump the items that don’t sell fast enough?

Similar idea with marriage. Equality means it’s a place to dump the losers.  😡 

kalbokalbs

Him.

There are boys and girls. <<< It’s that simple.

Put lipstick on a pig, it’s still a pig.

pgroup2

But is it then a cute pig?  😂 

kalbokalbs

Nope, just a pig.

Until part of it is converted to, B AC O N.

Gail Combs

In the case of the Tranny converted to GELDING aka Eunuch.

kalbokalbs

Yet, another reason, I have not watched or paid attention to Miss Universe, Miss America or the like, in decades.

Toss in the myriad of “love myself” awards ceremonies…grammy’s…thankfully they are fading from memory.

Deplorable Patriot

I guess the itsy bitsy bikini is more of a jockstrap?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

“She” (the ladyboy owner) was in a fancy nightgown, but the fake top was spilling out.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

A COVID vaccine skin reaction (easy bruising, red spots) – mostly FYI, but not easy to see.

Nasty COVID Vaccine Skin Reaction

scott467

“What have the done to us?”

_____________

What haven’t they done to us?

Aubergine

That’s because it has weakened the walls of her small blood vessels. She needs star anise tea. It works on everyone I’ve tried it on. It strengthens the walls of the vessels.

pgroup2

Is there anything for those of us who intensely dislike tea?

Aubergine

Lol. You can eat star anise in food. It tastes wonderful. Or, you could grind it and sprinkle it over coffee, a smoothie, put it on a waffle. I could think of a lot of ways.

You use the whole pod and the seeds. Just grind them up.

pgroup2

ThanQ. Are they available in mainline grocery stores or do I have to go to the Den of Iniquity [Whole Foods]?

Aubergine

Lol. You should be able to find whole star anise in the spice aisle of a good grocery store, I think. It is a common cooking spice in Indian cuisine.

pgroup2

ThanQ again. Yet another reason to love you – good info.  😍 

Aubergine

Aww. Thanks! Love you back, p!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

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smiley2

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The Original Bunny-Boiler(TM)

Accept no substitutes!

nikkichico7

Scarey Spice . …. 😫

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

SCIENCE FIGHT!!!

scott467

“Neil deGrasse Tyson: There is NFW that the COVID vaccines have saved tens of millions of lives”

Remember, whatever the government says, chances are, the opposite is true.

Try it out:

“COVID vaccines have taken tens of millions of lives.”

See what I mean?

TheseTruths

From the Walgreen’s tweet:
Getting a COVID-19 booster while pregnant is not only smart, but safe.”

Getting a COVID-19 booster while pregnant is not only neither smart but nor safe.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Seems to work rather nicely!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

More Steve Kirsch….

Full video here:

https://thehighwire.com/videos/nurse-exposes-shocking-rise-in-post-vaccine-fetal-death/

Click For Full Video

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scott467

“When will the CDC investigate this?”

_____________

It’s like asking “When will my abuser stop abusing me?”

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. Maybe worse, because unlike abusers that feel periodic guilt, I’m pretty sure that Walensky has only mimicry of humanity. She is on the mission to inject. She will tell any lie, or abuse any power, to do it.

Aubergine

The horror of this is unimaginable. These nurses are complicit. They aren’t talking about it. This one brave woman is, but how many are not?

pgroup2

I used to be a tea party patriot. Now it seems I’m a pureblood patriot.

Aubergine

Yep, seems that way.

kalbokalbs

How many are not?
— Betcha, it IS damn near every hospital with a NICU.

In everyone of them, doctors, nurses, technicians should be speaking up. Even if it is anonymous reporting.

The same is true for coroners, mortuary operators…

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Aubergine

Sure it is. And that’s the sickening part. Heads down, pretending it isn’t happening to protect THEMSELVES.

Which is why I have no forgiveness for them.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. We are getting a first-hand look into what went on in Nazi Germany.

Aubergine

We really ARE. It is just crazy to me that I’m alive at this point in history, to witness.

Brave and Free

I look at is a great time to be alive. I remember all the history classes and thought about what it would’ve been like to live then.
Now we’re living in our own Historic times.

Aubergine

True story! My gggg-grandkids can look me up like I have my Revolutionary War ancestors, and wonder what granny was doing! With any luck, they’ll find a Q Tree archive!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Wow, someone might finally read my physics posts!

Aubergine

Lol! My eldest son would talk science with you (at your level, at least intelligence-wise) all day!

Valerie Curren

Love this, for multiple reasons!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yeah. What a time to be alive!

The bottom line is that we’re dealing with the same “bankster class” – the same people – who destroyed Europe in two world wars, plus Asia in the latter, America in the Civil War – who ran the slave trade – and who are very likely mostly satanists, pedophiles, sociopaths, and monsters – hiding behind every human shield group they can find and sucker.

Aubergine

They have been operating in this world for thousands of years. Literally. These people grouped together after Christ died. They are the antithesis of Christianity. The nemesis of God. I really believe this, with all my heart. They go be different names, but the thread runs through all of history. But after Jesus, they formally organized into what we are dealing with today.

It makes perfect sense, because for every force of good, an opposing force of evil is necessary. We no longer live in Eden, where Evil was not a part of the world.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

It explains too much.

Valerie Curren

& some of that symbolism in the video(s) I shared above Might be revealing of these trends for they certainly go back to practically the beginning….

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

scott467

How many days late and dollars short?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Interesting standoff between KJP and the “best reporter in Africa” per Tucker Carlson.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Still hilarious, three years later!

holly08

That was great! Interesting to see who was laughing and who wasn’t.

scott467

It’s so perfect, it’s hard to believe he actually did it 👍 😂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

He LITERALLY roasted Hollywood itself!

kalbokalbs

A well deserved roast.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

cthulhu

I just happen to like cuttlefish vids….

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

W-shaped pupils are pretty wild!

scott467

“This tells us that you don’t need to be living in a complex social environment in order to evolve this particular skill.”

______________

So it doesn’t take a village, after all?

cthulhu

Boston Dynamics continues at the forefront of robot behavior….

cthulhu

Robert’s inner King Crimson seems to be breaking through on the guitar part, but it’s Toyah’s show at the end…..

scott467

So… it’s an acquired taste?

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cthulhu

No, that’s Gentle Giant —

eilert

Gail Combs

NICE and simple and understandable explanation of Gore BullSchiff Warbling.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Check this out. Puppets and dupes of the Bankster class.

kalbokalbs

Worth a listen, AND share this video.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OMG, this explains everything. It’s the banksters. Leading from behind.

scott467

“WEF is a Trojan Horse to weaken the West and strengthen China”

___________

And it’s subtle too, like a Trojan Horse that says ‘Trojan Horse‘ in flashing neon lights on every side.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

They were just a bit more clever than that. It was disguised as a condom shop.

Valerie Curren

Bwah ha ha!

eilert

AI ChatGPT bot at work:
This is the new way they are going to influence many on social media.

nikkichico7

Then he was hanged for insurrection as a traitor to the citizens of the United States of America

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

THE END

pgroup2

No wonder Wiki is panhandling for donations. It sees the storm approaching and there’s no tornado shelter.

smiley2

wow hey ! they just found more…

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cthulhu

Good to see you!!!

They found more Biden documents in Amish country?!?!?

smiley2

the garage, I think ?

the think tank ??

oh wait…Jill’s underwear drawers !   :wpds_shock:   :wpds_lol:   :wpds_wink: 

 👉  👌  nope yep the garage…

yesterday’s article…

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2023/01/14/breaking-still-more-classified-documents-found-in-biden-home-n523809

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nikkichico7

Puke

GA/FL

The most replied ever post at CTH – has gone to 40+ pages – is about a poll – Why didn’t you take the VAX? The replies/comments are great! https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/01/14/so-you-did-not-take-the-covid-19-shot-why-not/#more-242163

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RF121

Maybe Elon is rubbing off on him. I gave it a shot also.

Linda Harrison

I gave it a shot too. Thank you.

Gail Combs

I did. It went to moderation (AND the links died) I will check it later.

Linda Harrison

I just checked, you and I are both approved. It apears that they may be using an thumbs up on the ones that state they did not take the shot so they can sort them later. Just seemed that way to me.

Gail Combs

Thanks for checking. I just checked and the links now work.

Gingersmom2009

I just used a different username and e-mail. Got over long ago. 😂

kalbokalbs

Posted a long one. Moderation. Will check back later.

kalbokalbs

Never posted. NBFD.

treeperJ

I saw that there were 400 replies in just the 1st hour after it was posted…..lots and lots of people responded immediately…even us lurkers…..

Gail Combs

I have been a bit suspicious of Patrick Gunnels ever since he embraced the idea that viruses AND BACTERIA do not cause illness. He went on to ‘debate’ Steve Kirsch and used a logical fallacy to say he ‘WON!’

Since then, he never lets an opportunity go by and bashes Steve Kirsch & Dr Peter McCulloch when ever he can.

𝗜𝗙 𝘃𝗶𝗿𝘂𝘀𝗲𝘀 𝗱𝗼 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗰𝗮𝘂𝘀𝗲 𝗱𝗶𝘀𝗲𝗮𝘀𝗲 𝗧𝗛𝗘𝗡 𝗥𝗔𝗟𝗣𝗛 𝗕𝗔𝗥𝗜𝗖 𝗔𝗡𝗗 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗕𝗔𝗧 𝗟𝗔𝗗𝗬 𝗔𝗡𝗗 𝗙𝗔𝗨𝗖𝗜 𝗔𝗥𝗘 𝗢𝗙𝗙 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗛𝗢𝗢𝗞…

He has now finally come out of the closet as Badlands Media takes off. He had a ‘Flat Earth’ debate on Badlands but that seems to have been yanked. (Thank Goodness)

HOWEVER he comes out of the closet in his latest:

Brian Cates, and more! (Jan 14th)

https://rumble.com/v25i1m9-brian-cates-and-more.html

@ 38 minutes he says Elon Musk is wrong about Peak Oil. HOWEVER instead of explaining the Abiotic Oil theory he just says, dinosaurs ARE A HOAX! I spent many many days in the dinosaur hall in the museum of natural history NYC and as a kid Roy Chapman Andrews was my hero. I still recommend his kids books to parents.

@ 1 hour 1 minute, Gunnels point blank says he is a FLAT EARTHER….
….

Three strike you are OUT.

I am now more certain then ever this very articulate person was sicced on the Anon community to LINK US TO THE KOOKY FLAT EARTHERS et al so we can have everything we say SMEARED as coming from far out KOOKS!

RDS

IMO, there’s a “behind-the-scenes” effort going on to make sure that Baric, Fauci, and Shi are “off the hook” — and that all blame for anything negative regarding the “vaccines” (injuries, illnesses, disabilities, deaths) are solely the fault of the “vaccine” developers and Big Pharma. (In other words — Baric, Fauci, and Shi get to say, “We wuz had.”)

Brave and Free

And I am sure PDJT will be blamed for pushing the Vax and anything else they can conjure up.
Anything to undercut his support.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yeah, Gunnels is just oppositional, as opposed to skeptical.

In fact, it makes me curious how and why he hooked up with Patel Patriot.

Gail Combs