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On this day and every day –
God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up

Hopefully, every Sunday, we can find something here that will build us up a little . . . give us a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.
“This day is holy to the Lord your God;
do not mourn nor weep.” . . .
“Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet,
and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared;
for this day is holy to our Lord.
Do not sorrow,
for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”


The Sabbath
Of the Ten Commandments that God gave to Israel, perhaps none has provoked more controversy and debate than the fourth: “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy” (Exodus 20:8). Does the Sabbath commandment still hold today?
None of those who answer in the negative suggests the Sabbath was a second-tier command in the Decalogue, a good idea but not mandatory. No, the Sabbath served as the covenant sign between Israel and her God, unfolding a weekly drama that testified to God as mighty Creator (Exodus 20:11) and merciful Redeemer (Deuteronomy 5:15). On the Sabbath, Israel declared total dependence on her covenant Lord, a Lord more than able to uphold his people even though, for one day in seven, they hung up their shovels, laid aside their plows, and rested from their labors.
The question, then, is not whether Israel should have kept the Sabbath under the old covenant, but whether Christians should under the new. Should Christians keep the Sabbath? The question may sound nonsensical to some. We keep commandments one to three and five to ten, don’t we? So why skip number four?
Yet strewn throughout the New Testament is telling evidence that, in Christ and the new covenant, the Sabbath has found its fulfillment.
Jesus: ‘I will give you rest.’
Readers of the Gospels soon discover just how crucial the Sabbath was to the Jews of Jesus’s day. The seventh day marks the setting of so many clashes between Jesus and the Pharisees that when we read something like, “Now it was a Sabbath day . . .” (John 9:14), we expect trouble.
Strictly speaking, the only commandments Jesus broke on the Sabbath belonged to Jewish tradition, not divine law. In their zeal to define exactly what a person could and could not do on the Sabbath, Jewish leaders laid on the people’s backs a spiritual burden heavier than any physical burden (Matthew 23:4). Jesus attacked such traditions with the vehemence of one who saw more clearly than any that “the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath” (Mark 2:27).
“Christ’s first coming did not abolish rest; it ushered in a deeper kind of rest than the Sabbath could ever offer.”
Yet even though Jesus never broke the fourth commandment, he did hint that a change to the Sabbath may be coming. If we could remove the chapter break between Matthew 11 and 12, we might notice, in the context immediately preceding the Sabbath controversies in Matthew 12:1–14, these arresting words: “Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest” (Matthew 11:28). The rest offered on the Sabbath was now being offered in Christ.
A grand claim lies behind this grand promise: “The Son of Man is lord of the Sabbath” (Matthew 12:8). D.A. Carson writes,
That Jesus Christ is Lord of the Sabbath is not only a messianic claim of grand proportions, but it raises the possibility of a future change or reinterpretation of the Sabbath, in precisely the same way that His professed superiority over the Temple raises certain possibilities about ritual law. (From Sabbath to Lord’s Day, 66)
In Jesus, something greater than the Sabbath is here.
Paul: ‘Let no one pass judgment.’
Two passages in particular from the apostle Paul spell out the implications of Jesus’s lordship over the Sabbath. The first is Colossians 2:16–17:
Let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.
“What Paul says here is remarkable,” Tom Schreiner writes, “for he lumps the Sabbath together with food laws, festivals like Passover, and new moons. All of these constitute shadows that anticipate the coming of Christ” (40 Questions About Christians and Biblical Law, 212). And since Christ has now come, observing the Sabbath is no longer a matter of obedience or disobedience. Rather, Paul says, “Let no one pass judgment on you.”
Romans 14:5 holds a similarly striking claim. Consider Paul’s words here alongside a typical old-covenant statement about the Sabbath.
You shall keep the Sabbath, because it is holy for you. Everyone who profanes it shall be put to death. (Exodus 31:14)
One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. (Romans 14:5)
If an old-covenant Israelite esteemed “all days alike,” he might be stoned to death (Numbers 15:32–36). Yet Paul evidently felt no need to impose the Sabbath command on his Gentile converts. Some in Rome, it seems, wanted to keep the Sabbath (and so esteem “one day as better than another”) — perhaps Jewish Christians eager to maintain the traditions of their fathers. Paul had no issue with those Christians, so long as they refrained from pressuring others to imitate them or suggested that salvation hinged on obedience to the Sabbath (compare Galatians 4:8–11).
For the sake of Christian freedom and mutual love, Paul says simply and remarkably, “Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind” (Romans 14:5).
Hebrews: ‘We who have believed enter that rest.’
The author of Hebrews brings us closer to the heart of why the new covenant does not require a literal seventh-day rest. Christ’s first coming did not abolish rest; rather, it ushered in a deeper kind of rest than the Sabbath could ever offer.
According to Hebrews 4, Israel’s Sabbath day always pointed forward to a far greater day: the still-future day when all creation will enter fully into the rest foreshadowed and promised in Genesis 2:2–3, the very first seventh day. “So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God” (Hebrews 4:9). The ultimate Sabbath rest is coming, when God’s people will enjoy work without toil, hearts without sin, and an earth without thorns.
Yet even now, Hebrews implies, we feel the first waves of the coming rest. In Christ, we “have [already] tasted . . . the powers of the age to come” (Hebrews 6:5), rest included. For, the author writes, “We who have believed enter that rest” (Hebrews 4:3) — not “will enter,” but “enter”: fully later, truly now.
And how do we enter that rest? Not mainly by putting aside our weekly labors for one day in seven, but by believing: “We who have believed enter that rest.” Faith in Jesus Christ brings the rest of the seventh day into every day.
John: ‘I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day.’
Of course, when Christians today speak of the Sabbath, they almost never mean the seventh day, but the first day: not Saturday but Sunday. But surprisingly, no New Testament writer ever refers to Sunday as the Sabbath. When Jewish (and perhaps some Gentile) Christians observed the Sabbath, they would have done so on Saturday, as Israel had done for centuries. But that doesn’t mean Sunday held no special place in the early church. Scripture suggests that it did, only under a different name: the Lord’s Day.
The phrase “the Lord’s Day” appears only in Revelation, where the apostle John writes, “I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day” (Revelation 1:10). But other passages suggest that “Lord’s Day” simply put a name on the church’s common practice of gathering on Sunday. In Ephesus, Paul met with the church “on the first day of the week . . . to break bread” (Acts 20:7). Likewise, Paul instructed the Corinthians to set aside some money “on the first day of every week” (1 Corinthians 16:2).
None of these passages shows the early church resting, as if they considered Sunday their new Sabbath. Richard Bauckham goes so far as to write, “For the earliest Christians it was not a substitute for the Sabbath nor a day of rest nor related in any way to the fourth commandment” (From Sabbath to Lord’s Day, 240). The majority of these early Christians likely needed to work on the first day of the week. (Sunday was declared an official day of rest throughout the Roman Empire only under Constantine in AD 321.)
The passages do suggest, however, that Christians worshiped on the Lord’s Day. Perhaps in the morning before work, perhaps in the evening afterward, the first believers gathered to praise the one who rose “very early on the first day of the week” (Mark 16:2; Matthew 28:1; Luke 24:1; John 20:19). When the stone rolled away from Jesus’s tomb on Easter morning, true Sabbath rest arrived, and a new day dawned.
Lord of Our Days
So, should Christians keep the Sabbath?
“The world and the devil would have us work even while we rest. But Jesus would have us rest even while we work.”
In one sense, no: under the new covenant, no Christian is bound to the fourth commandment as such. We may still decide to rest one day in seven — and indeed, wisdom seems to support the practice of imitating God’s own 6-and-1 pattern (Genesis 1:1–2:3). Especially in a day when many can work anytime anywhere — answering emails after dinner, taking calls on the weekend — we may do well, even for one day in seven, to say, “I worked yesterday, I will work tomorrow, but today I rest and worship.”
In another sense, however, Christians should keep the Sabbath always. And here we do find a connection between the Jewish Sabbath and the Christian Lord’s Day. Andrew Lincoln writes,
In the Old Testament the literal physical rest of the Sabbath pointed to future rest; but since Christ has brought fulfillment in terms of salvation rest, it is the present enjoyment of this rest that acts as the foretaste of the consummation rest which is to come. In other words, it is the celebration on the Lord’s Day of the rest we already have through Christ’s resurrection that now anticipates and guarantees the rest that is yet to be. (From Sabbath to Lord’s Day, 399)
Every Lord’s Day, we come again to Jesus, weary and heavy laden (Matthew 11:28). We trace the shadow of the Sabbath to its substance (Colossians 2:17). We hear again in the distance the sounds of the future Sabbath festival; we glimpse again by faith the glow of “innumerable angels in festal gathering” (Hebrews 12:22). We look again into the empty tomb and hear Christ say, “Peace to you!” (Luke 24:36). In other words, we find rest — the kind of rest that remains long after Sunday has passed.
Without regularly experiencing this kind of rest — and with special power every Lord’s Day — it matters little how much rest we give our bodies. Our rest will be restless, and our work will become a desperate attempt to secure for ourselves the rest that we have not found in Christ. Neither the sluggard (who works for the weekend) nor the workaholic (who has no weekend) has yet learned to enjoy the rest of the true Sabbath.
Not so with those who have heard and heeded Jesus’s invitation to “Take my yoke upon you . . . and you will find rest for your souls” (Matthew 11:28–29). The world and the devil would have us work even while we rest. But Jesus would have us rest even while we work. And here, in this Christ-saturated resting and working, we live out the Sabbath today.
https://www.desiringgod.org/articles/should-christians-keep-the-sabbath
Thank you for this food for thought, Carl.
Excellent. The Texas RINOs have had their horns tweaked.
Sounds like a coordinated attack by the establishment via the establishment media.
Never happened before! I’m shocked! Shocked, I say!
The standard GO TO for trashing the reputation of Truth Tellers.
#8 Should be:
Class Warfare — Divide the people into the ‘wealthy’ (Actually middle class) and the poor. This will cause more discontent and it will be easier to take (TAX) the **MIDDLE CLASS** with the support of the poor.
The wealthy DO NOT WORK and therefore DO NOT PAY INCOME TAX. They use foundations, trusts and tax exempt stocks… to protect their wealth from taxes.
There are seven federal income tax rates. Those rates are 10%, 12%, 22%, 24%, 32%, 35%, and 37%. The first $11,000 of your income is taxed at the 10% rate. Before the 1974 OPEC quadrupled the cost of energy (gas) most salaries were well below $11,000. We were upper middle class when Dad earned $3,000 a year and gas was ~$0.15/gal. it is now 20X that.
If your ‘foundation’ pays for the home you live in, your vehicles, your planes… $40K/yr or $800/wk is not bad spending money.
Whenever the DEMONRATS want to go on attack (or fill up their spare time), SEX is their answer. Either in a false accusation, complete with fabricated “victims” or “acts”, or manifold perversions in which to participate with their DEMONRAT f(r)iends…
Perverse Sex is the twisted glass through which they view the world… they know no other…
Love the way this guy lays the truth right down in front of us all without fear!
The comments under this are gold!
Russell Brand stock rises with Slow Guy. Chaff falls aside.
In these times, telling the TRUTH is VERY VERY DANGEROUS…
Catturd:
The Blob speaks … bullshit.
That gelatinous bag of hot air!
Rove is the biggest POS to ever ooze out of the GOP!
In saying that, I thinkytou’ve forgotten many other POSes who got extruded out of a Donkey’s ass but call themselves GOP.
You say toe-may-toe; I say toe-mah-toe.
And I say Tabasco 😀 🔥 🌶 🔥
So you’re a hot tamale …
Yep. Back in the day I was cold to Polly, but hot to Molly… 😀
He’s such loser wuss.
It has a link to the rumble vid just below. Even moar awesome on the wider screen.
https://rumble.com/v3h5tuu-retribution-is-coming-.html
Personally, I’m more a fan of forgiveness than retribution, but we have to stop the weaponization of DOJ, FBI, and all the rest. Some people may need to be brought to true justice to end this insanity.
A whole lot of justice needs to be handed out. Swiftly AND with a heavy hand.
I think that about half of DOJ needs to be GONE from their jobs – maybe more. The smaller fraction who knowingly committed actual crimes need to face actual prosecution. But the ones who tolerated or marginally assisted conspiracy, selective prosecution, and weaponization of the law for politics, need to be removed from office and banned from working in federal government or working at any job with deals with the government.
Sure will be a lot of bureaucrats out looking for a new job, if everything goes our way!
I hope you meant after their parole.
Stocks and Bonds, as it were…
I’d vote for significantly more.
There should be a way of privatizing and democratizing the DoJ so that a cabal of Washington insiders cannot make it an arm of the Deep State.
You forgot AND PERMANENTLY LOSE THEIR LICENCE TO PRACTICE LAW.
I would burn it all down and reduce the overall size of gov’t by at least 90%.
But that’s just me.
90% would be a good start.
Maybe 110% just to be sure 😀
(Get rid of the SES and all the other detritus in DC)….
I’m not sure how you’d be able to remove 110% of it…but I’m not averse to trying.
Look up the “item” where Carly Fiorina laid off 120% of HP’s employees (so vendors had forced layoffs, which was a surprise to them 🙂 )…
Not sure if that joke was just inside at HP or was circulating on the web in 2000 or so… but it was certainly something she’d try if she could get away with it…
(what she did to Walter was horrible…)…..
There’s always the related NGOs, that should go, too!
LOL!!!
Steve’s elucidation on Limited government applies here!
retribution
rĕt″rə-byoo͞′shən
noun
So, we are supposed to just allow the wrongs to go unpunished? Seriously?
People mistake retribution for revenge. NOT the same thing.
Retribution is required under the law.
You tell ’em.
Lol, I generally do!
OK, good – at least these terms are NOT synonymous by DICTIONARY definition, even though the COMMON understanding of “seeking retribution” has become seriously equated with “seeking revenge”.
Here is Merriam-Webster on this popular interpretation:
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Did you know?
With its prefix re-, meaning “back”, retribution means literally “payback”. And indeed we usually use it when talking about personal revenge, whether it’s retribution for an insult in a high-school corridor or retribution for a guerrilla attack on a government building. But retribution isn’t always so personal: God takes “divine retribution” on humans several times in the Old Testament, especially in the great Flood that wipes out almost the entire human race. And retribution for criminal acts, usually in the form of a prison sentence, is taken by the state, not the victims.
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After listening to MacGregor, it seems clear to me that there are forces who are NOT friends of America, who deeply desire a second Civil War. In my opinion, escalating retributions (“legal”, per each side’s logic) serve that interest. Given that Alinsky fears work on Democrats, too, where Dems will now do ANYTHING to stop Trump, I don’t think the word retribution helps our cause. In particular, bad actors like Comey and his coconspirators are already fear-mongering Dem voters to oppose a Trump presidency based on “retribution” (insinuating revenge), and to thus get those Dems to tolerate another January Sixth, or even a Dallas motorcade event.
Trump is careful, because he knows that insinuating legal retribution will alienate a lot of Dem voters who just want sanity and non-criminality to be restored. Trump is excellent at shaping his message on that. Sometimes he’s very strong on “justice” in his administration for what the Bidenoids are doing now, but at other times he stays silent. He modulates it just right. I won’t say too much about that, but I see his strategy.
Although YES – legally, there must be REAL BUT HONEST RETRIBUTION by the law, for the egregious crimes that have been committed in trying to stop Trump.
An excellent example is that Soros DA in Missouri who got nailed for what she did to Eric Greitens, which was utterly criminal.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/tables-turn-soros-prosecutor-gardner-greitens
I’m likely seeing this angle because of actual, real-life politics, where independents and conservative DINOs are targeted.
Another word fallen victim to the common connotation (as opposed to denotation, the formal definition).
Just like “discrimination.”
And “prejudice.” It is almost always used to refer to race now.
I really wish people were more precise with their use and understanding of language. Words mean things. The right word in the right place can be very important.
Yep.
And it has been, for centuries:
My Fair Lady – Why Can’t The English?
and decades later,
“Weird Al” Yankovic – Word Crimes
🙂
Funny, but true, nonetheless. N.B. GBS was a “toff” (toffee-nosed-snot), one of the elite, so Higgins wasn’t what he seemed to be…
I love “My Fair Lady,” because of Audrey Hepburn. And Weird Al is just hilarious!
My Fair Lady was based on the myth of Pygmalion. It isn’t a “love story,” but a story of manipulation and control. It’s pretty dark.
Yep. That was what I meant. A myth inside of an enigma, as it were… Higgins pretending to be saving Eliza, from shame and discrimination, while all the time assigning her to the population of “useless eaters” as Shaw called them…
“Look at her, prisoner of the gutter”… and that’s where you wanted her and her like all the time, Shaw…
Still, I love the musical… When I was a wee bairn my piano teacher would have me play show tunes for “junior miss”-type fashion shows (sigh…). I’d read through a couple of hours worth of music to get ready, and when I’d go through the score of “My Fair Lady”, my dachshund Ludwig would sing along to “I’ve Grown Accustomed To Your Face” and “On The Street Where You Live” 🙂
I’m not sure if he had a ladyfriend on our block or what… but only for those two songs out of hundreds that I did…
(maybe I sang the words one time or something, but with my “pleasant voice” that would be animal cruelty 🙂 )….
I love the Word Crimes song! I had never heard/seen it before. It’s hilarious, and so true. 😅
“In my opinion, escalating retributions (“legal”, per each side’s logic) serve that interest. Given that Alinsky fears work on Democrats, too, where Dems will now do ANYTHING to stop Trump, I don’t think the word retribution helps our cause.”
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They were doing anything to stop Trump years BEFORE anyone mentioned retribution.
So holding out ‘retribution’ as a problem becomes just another way to sabotage ourselves.
The cancer has to be cut out until it’s all gone, regardless of what ‘word’ is used to describe it.
It seems that reckoning is a better word for a second Trump term. I think reckoning suggests an action that leans toward accountability in a similar way that Martin Luther King suggested that the arc of the moral universe bends toward justice. From that perspective Trump would be engaged on a righteous campaign of which people inclined toward virtue would approve.
“Make Reckoning Great Again”?
I reckon.
I want justice, not revenge: stopping the criminality and persecutions and destruction of the country, with punishment to fit the crimes.
EDIT: I like Aubergine’s definition of retribution, below.
EXACTLY!!!
We MUST see that JUSTICE comes to those who have REPEATEDLY broken the laws of Man and God.
Which of them has either repented OR asked forgiveness?
None that I know of.
Why is Strzok so afraid of retribution?
There would be no retribution if the Crims had not stolen the gov’t, committed a coup and tried to murder the whole world.
When they did these things, they guaranteed righteous retribution, they made retribution not just mandatory, but it will be glorious.
So when Strzok tries to make it sound as if 4 years of retribution would be a horrible thing, he’s right, for the Crims it will be.
But it will be absolutely GLORIOUS for the American People.
I hope Ben Garrison is okay.
Yes, I hope he is OK. Is he getting chemo? Sounds like it.
Even if he’s done with chemo and onto another drug [Keytruda in my case], he could be de-energized for a couple of days after injections. There’s a fight going on inside the body and energy is diverted to the fight.
I hope he’s getting “Vitamin I” and Q-10 and other supporting vitamins (FLCCC protocol). No doubt he’s under constant attack by the dark side, so prayers up for him and his family too…
I haven’t heard anything about his condition or treatments.
Thank you for this post, Carl! I did not know the difference between the Sabbath and the Lord’s Day.
Logic is a beautiful thing, eh?
🤪
Love that. DAYUM.
Something’s happening: ABC News just flattened Fani Willis and her desperate “Trump vendetta”…
Something is up, that’s for sure.
Maneuvering to drop Briben, when he pardons Hunter. Briben resigns due to health.
Hoe ascends. Tries to get Nanzi or Grewsome as VP.
Then Hoe will be relentlessly thrashed in the press for being the worthless air head Valley Girl, she is.
A good movie script. We’ll wait and see if anybody picks it up for production.
I’ve been praying for GOD to shine HIS LIGHT on the evil and corruption since 2015…
The swamp is so deep and so wide and so high yet most people back then didn’t see it. I think a lot more people do now…
Most people think “oh goodness, no-one would even THINK of doing something that evil”… and then the DEMONRATS go ahead and do it (as do the GangGreen here). Finally they’re seeing that DEMONRATS are always a few steps (or miles) ahead of what is conceivable in terms of evil and corruption…
The next step is to lock down elections so they can’t be stolen. And that means paper ballots and polling-place monitors, not to mention a thorough audit and cleansing of the voter rolls. Picture ID or no vote…
“This level of honesty is quite a departure from what we would have seen just a few months ago…”
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It is not ‘honesty’, it is never ‘honesty’ from these monsters. They wouldn’t know ‘honesty’ it it hit them in the forehead with a 2 x 4. It is a narrative shift, nothing more.
Someone at Revolver is going wobbly.
.
“So, what’s behind this shift? It could be a mix of things. Perhaps they’re finally sensing the growing anger from the American people, who are turning away from state-run media propaganda.”
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Just lying to yourself and your readers. They don’t operate on ‘sensing’ anything, and they don’t care at all about the American People or what we think.
They are order takers and script readers.
They are Baghdad Bob.
.
“Maybe they’ve realized that their biased “news” approach isn’t working – it’s actually backfiring and making Trump more popular.”
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This is either someone suffering from Conservative Abuse Syndrome, or enemy propaganda.
If he’s suffering from Conservative Abuse Syndrome, then the author has identified with his attackers and now he’s in the reconciliation phase, before the next beating takes place.
The author didn’t even put his name on this trash, which makes me think it’s just enemy propaganda.
WOW. There’s some big truth in there!
Spammed out by email.
List mentions forest fires. Guess the ones in Canada, NE…
Odd As Hell.
Middle of September AND the Annual CA and PNW massive wildfires missing this year. Arsonists sent to Canada & NE this year?
👍
Illegal pot farmers made sure their product didn’t burn.
Prolly lots of arsonist graves in dem dare hills.
And don’t forget the “This is a hint to you — stop your presidential campaign” to RFK, Jr. — the heavily-armed man who was hustled away from him by his own security detail, since “President Biden’s” handlers denied him Secret Service protection. By the way, the perp was impersonating a U.S. Marshal.
That sounds to me like it’s a FIB operation. They wouldn’t want attention.
Alex Stein is so bad, LOL!
What’s he talking about? Sounds like I missed something!
They were consenting adults behaving like consenting adults in a darkened theater, and were asked to leave.
Come to think of it…that surveillance camera JUST HAPPENED to be pointed right at them.
Hmm. Imagine that.
I am hopelessly old fashioned i guess. consenting adults do not need to be having whatever they’re having in a public atmosphere because everyone else in that theater did NOT consent to being a part of it.
time and place for everything.
respect should be shown for ALL.
There’s more to it. There is speculation this guy was sent to seduce her.
The surveillance camera placement really makes this suspicious to me.
it is suspicious, no doubt.
but why allow yourself to be vulnerable to blackmail in the first place?
if that film wasn’t released immediately, it could be held to control her vote at some point…if the timing was right.
certain things should remain private–and that’s no guarantee that blackmail can’t still be in play–but it lessens the likelihood imo.
putting it all out there freely in the public eye, seems like questionable judgement to me.
shrug…
Agreed, the way they play in DC.
This could be the warning to her, play along now or more will come out. She’s definitely on the opposition’s radar.
I guess the MAGA crowd doesn’t coach on this sort of thing.
I don’t think it’s suspicious at all. The guy didn’t make her raise her hands during a performance or take photos when everyone knows that’s prohibited during shows, or vape in a theater, or be noisy, or be rude and inconsiderate to the woman behind her, or flip off the ushers or pull the “Do you know who I am routine.” People tell you who they are. She’s immature and entitled and hypocritical.
Two possibilities:
I have thought of that. If you had been unknowingly drugged and then behaved completely out of character, wouldn’t you be gobsmacked when you realized it, and wouldn’t you be asking a lot of questions?
I’d venture to say that most people here have either never behaved like that, or haven’t done it since they were of a certain immature age, and would be horrified to be shown that that’s what they did. Yet there are no cries from her of “That’s not like me at all. I don’t know what happened.”
To be clear, I’m only arguing for looking at it objectively. Her behavior was terrible. To immediately make excuses of her being set up is abhorrent to me.
I also want to be clear that I am 100% in favor of forgiveness and moving on. I’m not saying she is ruined forever; my being so adamant about this is that IMO people aren’t acknowledging reality. When everything becomes a conspiracy that we have no evidence of, just our speculation, then our judgment can become clouded. I’ve seen it over and over.
It’s too bad she didn’t have a tox test.
I’ll throw in something….wonder if her date supplied the vape pen ? Wonder if he brought some special vape juice ?
Vape pens or devices are normally personal and loaded by the owner. I doubt she spikes it with anything extra. The nicotine will be enough and she can control the dosage of that.
Personally goes for a modest 6mg of Nc (.06%) but some users will go as high as 18mg ( I recall someone here scoffing at my ridiculously low dose, but it allows me to vape pretty much as constantly as I wish). It’s rather addicting but without any of the draw backs from normal smoking. Because it’s essentially vapor released one finds themselves vaping pretty much anywhere. Example the doctors office while waiting for him to get to me. They always leave the door closed and you can normally see the shadow of feet moving about before he knocks on the door to come in. More than enough time to put the vape device away and no detection to be noted that you were vaping in his absence, (or so it is with Rye flavors, can’t vouch for others). I know, it’s a crutch but if you smoked or used snuff for as long as you could it’s a great step back to healthy this and that. 😁😏😮😬🙄😖😉
yeah, agree with your comment but I was thinking if her date got a couple of disposable vapes or if going full tinfoil hat…he was supplied with doctored vapes by parties interested in setting her up ?
It’s probably her just acting the fool but bringing down MAGA types is a big priority so ??
I nicotine poisoned myself when I first used one. I was sick as a dog for hours.
It is her showing who she really is. She’s a jerk who is responsible for her own political demise. That said, I would still vote for her over a Dem.
The Left can’t make someone act out like she did if those things go against the person’s own code of behavior.
Exactly right but I guarantee that IF she was given something without her knowledge that lowered inhibitions…any of those things could happen .
The bad guys play a long game. Setting up MAGA people is malicious sport to them. I have no earthly idea of her personality or core values so maybe she’s an entitled freak, IDK but honestly I think it’s possible that she was set up.
I certainly agree that she could have been set-up.
We have ZERO idea what drugs are in the CIA/Deep State arsenal.
FOR EXAMPLE:
The Drugging of Our Children
By Gary Null
Your quote looks like a bunch of X’s…how does one decide it?
The Vape of Lucrece (or The Vape of Lauren)…
Now, now, have you been reduced to literary puns. One may think you are just showing off.
She’s been dating the guy for months. Whether he was “sent” to date her or not, he is not responsible for her lack of character, morals, and judgment.
The DEMONRATS supply more plants than the local pot farm… Look at all the plants that ended up in VSGPDJT’s administration… and not all of them were obvious at first; indeed many of them were not suspicious at all…
If we’re looking for perfection, we’re not gonna get it on this Earth…
I’m not sure how to communicate what I’m trying to say more effectively.
By no means am I looking for perfection. I’m looking for common decency and consideration for others, the things we all were taught as kids. You don’t inconvenience others in a theater and ruin the experience for them. That’s so basic I can’t believe I have to say it.
And then you don’t play the “do you know who I am” card when called on your behavior.
No plant by the Dems made Boebert do those things.
When someone steps out of line, you let them know that they did wrong and don’t make excuses for them so the relationship can be reconciled. That especially applies when raising children. By the same token, the person who stepped out of line needs to acknowledge it and apologize appropriately.
Otherwise, it’s “the Dems made her do it.” No, they didn’t. They might have planted a guy to date her, but she is responsible for her own behavior. If she was drugged, she’d better be looking into that crime.
Judge not, lest Ye be judged, seems to apply here.
Yes, they were not behaving like adults at all. Her behavior is inexcusable.
Probably pointed right at them “after “ they had complaints about them.
Yup.
My guess is, Boebert was set-up.
Boebert used in my opinion bad “political” judgement.
FOCUS. The ONLY thing that matters to me,
👍😁👍
We can put most anyone under the microscope and come up with things we’d rather not wish known. Some of this needs to be done, but this picadillo stuff is an easy shrug off.
They do the same kind of stuff with history. Magnifying the bad and obscuring the good. The good is the ideal and focusing on that generally works as long as we go back for an honest review to make sure we aren’t getting hood winked.
Meanwhile pointers on how things could be better are not necessarily bad, but should perhaps be taken in moderation.
It’s been noted somewhere that we are all descended from a murderer… Cain…..
Not necessarily, even taking Genesis as literal truth (which I don’t, but I will for the sake of this). Genesis 5:3-5 Adam had a son named Seth and other sons and daughters (this was after the Cain-killing-Abel incident). So there would be other lines of descent from Adam other than through Cain.
I read somewhere many years ago that we are all sons and daughters of Lucy. Trust the science.
But she always pulls the football away…
That seems to be the karma of the human species.
From Genesis 4
17 Cain knew his wife intimately. She became pregnant and gave birth to Enoch. Cain built a city and named the city after his son Enoch.
18 Irad was born to Enoch. Irad fathered Mehujael, Mehujael fathered Methushael, and Methushael fathered Lamech. 19 Lamech took two wives, the first named Adah and the second Zillah. 20 Adah gave birth to Jabal; he was the ancestor of those who live in tents and own livestock. 21 His brother’s name was Jubal; he was the ancestor of those who play stringed and wind instruments. 22 Zillah also gave birth to Tubal-cain, the ancestor of[a] blacksmiths and all artisans of bronze and iron. Tubal-cain’s sister was Naamah.
I will add that the Bible does not make mention of any of Cain’s descendants past the 7th generation and the flood. Noah was from Seth’s side. However, wives on the ark could have come from Cain’s side. It really does not matter as there were apostate, corrupted descendants on Seth’s side as well.
What matters is Noah and his family were judged righteous and humanity was preserved.
Yet I doubt you would behave as she did if you were set up. The responsibility lies with her.
She used bad judgment of all kinds. You don’t offend fellow patrons during a performance. You particularly don’t do that if you’re a public figure. It was inexcusable behavior.
I agree. I would vote for her if I had to. That won’t stop me from calling out her behavior. If she were a Dem, people on our side would be crucifying her.
I also thought the surveillance camera pointing at them was suspicious.
Then on second thoughts wondered if some one had complained about their behavior and the management had put the camera on them to check if the complaint warranted further action.
SOMEONE SOLD THAT FOOTAGE TO THE MEDIA…
Was the camera pointed at them? As far as I can tell, that camera covered well over 200 people in the audience. Then they zoomed in on her for details after the story broke.
She has no self respect. I am conservative and old fashion. Never drink on a date.
I agree with you, and I have been that vulnerable, sad, abandoned girl looking for some happiness.
I have sympathy for Boebert. And I wish she hadn’t done it.
I hope she learn something.
Me, too! Even though it’s the hard way.
Her judgement is lacking. Hope she grows up quickly. By the way the guy has responsibility also.
Of course he does. They are both adults.
Yes they are 🙂
The more that comes out , seriously wondering if she hadn’t been set up, drink spiked, vape spiked ? Is she usually so uninhibited and crazy party girl ? Her original statement saying she didn’t even remember vaping…ridiculous at the very least unless she was dosed and really didn’t remember.
Plenty of women who are “roofied” don’t recall much at all.
Was she carrying concealed? Seems weird that nobody is asking that question since she once said she goes nowhere without heat.
I thought about that also.
That might be phase 2 of a takedown campaign.
I’m wondering if people here have even seen the news stories and pics about this. There isn’t an inch of space on her person, given the tight dress she wore, for a firearm. Her handbag might be a possibility, though it appeared to be small.
I haven’t seen the pics or news stories, but if she was wearing a dress, she could be wearing an inner thigh holster.
There are also bra holsters, where the holster attaches under the front of the bra in the middle.
There are some very small guns that can still be effective, like the Seecamp .380 ACP.
https://seecamp.com/firearm-specs/
13.65 oz loaded with 6+1 rounds.
3.25″ (H) x 4.25″ (L) x 0.91″ wide grip and 0.725″ wide slide.
Made of stainless steel.
That’s why you should never put your hand on a girl’s thigh – she might think you’re going for her firearm.
No One’s Business, IF she was carrying. N O N E.
I hadn’t thought about her being roofied, but that’s a good possibility.
The more I think about it, the more I like this theory. If she really were the sort of person now being trashed, we would have heard more stories like this.
To me there’s something too off about it. Too far. Too public. Too socially unacceptable. Too many faux pas. ok. so she talked smack and was rude…and then too frisky and whatever else.
Also barring the idea that this is SOP for Pols trying to cover their asses…who has to review the footage to know what they did ?
………….someone that can’t exactly recall what the hubbub is about
Summerizer:
I’m fairly sure that I was dosed with it or something one time. A one time date, at his home for dinner and drinks, and there was a couple/three hour span that I realized that I had no idea what we had said or done. Even though I felt not-right, I bailed and got out of there.
Sounds about right. “Missing time.”
That must have been quite frightening. No matter how much we like to pretend our world is safe, there are some dangerous corners.
It’s SO trashy over-the-top that it does feel off. Such a complete lack of common sense coupled with zero impulse control. They aren’t a couple of desperate high school kids craving privacy – they’re well-off adults with lots of time and homes with bedrooms. And there ARE nice hotels in Denver, right?
Why is she hooked up with this guy that every article claims is a serious democrat, who owns a bar and has presented drag entertainment? And does she not realize her every move is scrutinized? They live for the dirty gotcha.
Denninger nailed it, in my opinion. Sleep with anybody you want, you’re consenting adults. Go to it. But when you put on a display like what occurred in that theater, you have no business walking the corridors of power.
What’s real suspicious to me is the multiples. It’s Boebert, and Russell Brand, and now the stories claiming that Kristi Noem is having an affair with Corey Lewandowski. Under PTrump’s nose.
I don’t think Boebert weathers this, her 2022 re-election was a squeaker. And we need that seat.
We already have. She’s been in fights with MTG.
Was it cuz MTG supported Kevin? MTG deserved to get nailed on that one.
Or is there other Boebert / MTG nonsense out there?
One fight had to do with filing impeachment charges against Biden. MTG was about to do it and had asked for Boebert’s support for her motion (or whatever it’s called), and MTG was upset that, instead of working with her on it, Boebert filed her own motion. I’m not taking sides because I don’t know enough about it, but I don’t see cooperation, and that does not help our side.
Did not know about that one. SMH.
THIS. Boebert’s Seat is vulnerable AND IS targeted.
The excuse of her being set up does not account for her acting out during a performance, disturbing other attendees, being loud, refusing to cooperate when asked to stop, flipping off those who escorted her out, playing the “I’m important” card, and showing nothing but disdain instead of consideration for others. No one can set someone up to do that if they have character and principles.
It does if she was drugged…
And if she had been drugged, when she saw the footage or got the reports, I would expect her to immediately say how horrified she was at her own behavior. She would have made a public apology to the pregnant woman and the other patrons. She would have addressed the staff in her writings about it, saying she was sorry for being belligerent and for flipping them off. Instead, we got a self-serving “apology” about how her divorce is hard and she was so caught up in “being in a new venue” that she couldn’t remember vaping.
If she had been drugged, she might not remember vaping. My point is that later, when she learned of it, she should have been horrified, giving a copious and heartfelt mea culpa, and asking tons of questions. That’s not happening.
It could have been about to happen but her ‘aides’ talked her out of it.
Wonder what the DEMONRATS are trying to hide behind this great big shiny squirrel-filled disco ball?????
“It turns out Lauren Boebert’s mystery man is a Democrat bar owner.”
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Talk about bad judgment.
That’s past bad judgment, it’s just stupid.
Why would you want to spend time with someone who fundamentally disagrees with you about everything?
Unless she doesn’t really disagree with Dims at all.
Yes. And his bar holds drag queen shows.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12527161/Lauren-Boeberts-Democrat-lover-drag-bar.html
She has come out against taking children to those shows, but I don’t see any sign of this bar allowing children in. Still…
So she’s a gun-toting conservative who dates a democrat who owns a drag queen bar.
It’s just too ridiculous for words.
Conversely why would a proud lefty want to date a gun totin’ Trumpish MAGA gal ?
Clearly he is doing it for his country. I thought it was common knowledge that all bar owners were patriots.
Clearly.
Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country…………uh you..the lib bar owner..hit on that wacky Boebert, sooner or later she’ll do something stupid ! 😜
Two liberals walk into a bar.
The MAGA conservative ducks…
Especially whoever owns Bill Barr…..
You are smoking tonight, or should I say vaping?
Lauren Boebert’s abominable behavior in a theater. Details and pics here.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12513549/Lauren-Boebert-mystery-man-revealed-DEMOCRAT-bar-owner-Quinn-Gallagher-secretly-dating-month.html
Not sure I ever want to go into a theater again, given that they’re filming us like rats in a study.
Evidently “the cover of darkness” doesn’t cover as much as it used to. Once upon a time, you could get a little frisky without night-vision technology furnishing broadcast-ready video.
RINO Texas House Speaker Dade Phelan Fires Warning Shot at Senators Who Spared Paxton: “Not the End… Those Who Allowed Him to Keep His Office Will Have Much to Answer For”By Jim Hᴏft Sep. 16, 2023 8:20 pm591 Comments
Phelan’s statement is noting more than rehashing the charges Paxton was just cleared of and with those looser comments the inebriated speaker of the Texas House tosses out threats 😆🙄🤪😠😮. Hitting the sauce early again no doubt and likely does not realize he’s put a target on the back of every Bush loving RINO in the country.
Yikes! If not drunk, he was half asleep!!!
Excellent remarks about Ron Paul.
(echoing Solzhenitsyn….)
“The American soul belongs to God and not to Washington.”
This is an absolutely excellent speech about EVERYTHING. His closing remarks are totally on target. A very smart guy.
A good lecture on Earth temperature profile and Atmospheric Effect based on real data, without that fictitious Greenhouse Gas “Theory”, which in fact violates thermodynamics (i.e., it presupposes that heat can flow from cold to hot)
This lecture shows that the Greenhouse Gas hypothesis is in fact totally superfluous.
Slides:
https://climateofsophistry.files.wordpress.com/2023/09/planetary-science-201-livestream-1.pdf
https://climateofsophistry.com/2023/09/15/reschedule-livestream-lecture-planetary-physics-201-earths-temperature-sept-16-2023-8pm-mdt/
The Deplorable Dozen.
If you open the X/Twit page, there are 20 members.
Edit works!!!!!
I’d vote to not fund the gov’t even if the border security bill is passed and funding to Ukraine is ‘officially’ cut off.
No matter what bills are passed, they’re going to keep funding Ukraine.
No matter what bills are passed, they’re not going to secure the border.
Amen. Thanks be to God.
Much appreciation, Carl.
This site keeps my sanity in tack. Thank You Wolfmoon et al.
Good to see you back bakocarl! Missed you!
A staple of my day, which starts and ends at QTree.
Truth AND sanity, resides at QTree.
I’m old enough to remember when shopping was limited on Saturday and almost non-existent on Sunday, so that all employees could REST on their preferred day.
JUST SAYIN’……
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Menumunum
September 17, 2023 9:37 am
So Sundance declared Tucker Carlson’s career over after he interviewed a target of the communists. Since then, Tucker has REPEATEDLY dropped his sack on globalists across the western world.
Russel Brand is now being attacked by the same globalist lefties. Why are you silent?
I know the answer to my own question. Sundance is not who he appears. He is not even a he. The endless safety dances show Sundance is a chick, and a chick who attacks Deplorables with underhanded attacks, and whose forum is nothing but federal agents and informers in Deplorable drag.
Am I wrong? Prove it and don’t delete this. Show that you believe in free speech (but you already said you don’t)
Censors ARE the Decepticon communists, and your time in the sun is almost at an end.
If the time in the sun is almost at an end, then it’s time for the sun to dance.
😂
🎶 Blame it on the Super Nova