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Welcome to Friday’s OPEN THREAD at the QTree! It’s the weekend and time to crack open a beer and put some steaks on the grill! Thank you for the Thursday hand-off TrumpIsMine. Thank you to Wolfie for keeping us all organized, up and running. What would we do without FLEP’s News Roundup to keep up? Thank you, Flep. Hat tip and a hearty thank you to Wheatie, Dep, BakoCarl, Michael, all contributors and the lurkers!
We don’t believe in political correctness at QTree. Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it. This board will remain a REFUGE for those who need civility, either some or all of the time. Important Guidelines are outlined here in the January 1st open thread, with an addendum on 20191110. In other words, please keep it SOMEWHAT civil. We have a new board – actually a new SITE – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.
What a week we’ve had. Are you guys burned out on Coronavirus? If I hear one more shrieking pundit, wearing a bottle of Purrell for a hat, I’m gonna scream. The media has lost their collective mind – I’m waiting for Jake Tapper to show up at CNN in a HAZMAT suit, ….give lessons on how to put it on/take it off….. Hey, maybe CNN can sell HAZMAT suits on QVC to their terrified viewers to boost the profits of their lagging network. Maybe…. we could put some Swarovski crystals on Jake Tapper’s suit…….. I’m laughing now…… and he could be a Rhinestone Cowboy! I digress….
The whole thing is crazy, BUT crazy breeds opportunity. This afternoon, I checked out of politics, got my work done, and was surfing the net like a woman on a mission. Big T walked past my computer screen and stopped on a dime.
Big T: Whatcha doin’, babe?
Me: I’m shopping for real estate in Italy.
Big T(looking closer at my screen): You want to buy the Villa Borghese? Don’t think the Italians will like that idea.
Me: Well…….. no. Looking for a little place close by….
Big T: You couldn’t afford a closet-sized studio in Rome right now.
Me (convinced): Their real estate market will crash……, just watch and wait for it.
Big T (shaking his head but curious): Try Sicily….
The market is out of control and dumbstruck. No one has good information – thus the default becomes “hysteria”. Yet, a LOT of people are making a “whole lotta” money. Politicians are weaponizing the fear, ……. typical………., and China is probably laughing at us by now. Everyone needs to go to the beach for a weekend and gain some perspective.
While the rest of America is in line at Costco buying toilet paper, don’t you wish you knew what was going on behind the scenes while we’re all distracted?
Do you realize it was 3 weeks ago when we were at Daytona?
Do you realize Impeachment was only 5 weeks ago? Seems like 10yrs ago.
SOTU was only a month ago!
Who is ready to go back to India? That was only 9 days ago.
It’s Trump time. Remember? We’re on that roller coaster.
It’s tough to keep up with the boss!
Take comfort, however, the media simply cannot keep up the fever pitch of hysteria on Coronavirus for TWO more weeks. Note, today the convenient “survey/polling” came out on “how has Trump handled the virus”. Of course, that will give the media fuel and fake headlines for the Sunday shows………. but at some point……. the Coronavirus turns into another Flight 370…… with media speculation about black holes and aliens. It’s almost over, call it a day. Corona virus will hopefully fade away like a bad prom disco song.
Meanwhile, Andre, my happy postman showed up about noon today. He rang the bell because he wanted to stop and talk.
Our dog, Bucket always tells us when Andre is close by. Andre keeps Puperoni treats in his pocket for her, and Bucket knows the sound of his mail truck. Andre was exasperated today. I brought him some iced tea.
Andre (Big Sigh): Thank GOD the ba$tard dwarf Bloomberg is out of the race!!!!!!!
Me, surprised. Known Andre for at least 10yrs and we’ve never talked politics.
Big T (laughing): Oh yeah, how come?
Andre: I’m tired of carrying his crap! Literature and mailers flooded the local office. His $hit is everywhere! Guess we can dump the rest of it!!!!!!!!! Ha-ha-ha. I’m so sick of him.
Big T (confused): Really? I haven’t seen any…..
Andre (Laughing and smirking, eyes popping out of his head): Oh no, you wouldn’t. They KNOW who you are. You’re a Repub. The King of the dwarves is only sending his $hit to the “black” section of town. Poor Ronnie…. you know Ronnie….. (Big T, nodding)…… he was ready to quit his job. Mail TRIPLED!
Me: Interesting
Andre (Nodding): Miss Daughn, they’re targeting people……
Tell us something we don’t know, Andre. Hmmm…., Andre had no Muskrat Love for Bloomberg.
Andre (throwing his hands in the air): And now we’re on to BIDEN???? Who promoted him from water boy to college quarterback overnight? He’s crazy.
Big T (fascinated by Andre’s reaction and letting him run): What do you think about Biden? I thought he was the middle of the road guy?
Andre (coming unglued): Middle of the road????!!!???? He can’t decide what he stands for. Was he the guy who shot the .22 off the back porch (Good snag Andre, forgot about that sound bite) or does he want Beto to take our guns? Was he for the working man in PA, or does he now want to ban oil and gas. Biden is all over the place…….. will say anything to anyone.
Me………. thinking……… Biden is Andy Gibb. Worst song, ever.
Andre (walking back down the brick path to his mail truck): All I know is, don’t trust a word Biden says and don’t let him near your wife or daughter.
Big T (He couldn’t resist it, yelling at Andre, who was almost to his truck: So, I guess you’re voting for the Communist on Tuesday (our primary is this Tuesday).
Andre (stopped dead and spun back, pointing his finger): Mr. T, you know those are fightin’ words. America will never be a ” social”shit” ” country.
Me: I’m going to remember that line……
Okay, we dug up all the bad songs from the 70’s we could find because that’s what Bloomberg ads were like………. an overplayed AM radio disco song. Hope we didn’t give you an ear worm. But we did forget to talk about Pocahontas/Liz Warren exiting the stage, and this awful song from the 70’s.
As always:
“Our movement is about replacing a failed and corrupt political establishment with a new government controlled by you, the American People.” Candidate Donald J Trump
Remember to say a little prayer for the President, family and team. They need our help.
Remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone – no skimping.
See you all at Wheatie’s Treehouse in the morning!!!!!!!!
Sweet, sweet, Charlotte. You guys start and I will fill in.
Charlotte is terrific. Although I’ve spent more time in their airport than in the city. Airport is great. Super high tech/medical center for the east coast with tolerable weather.
This one is going to be short. Spent hours and hours sifting through over a thousand comment on the COVID into to consolidate. Let me put it this way, that virus wouldn’t DARE infect me now.
Welcome to our sixth thread on the Coronavirus/COVID19. We’ve collected and shared information from hundreds of sources around the world since mid-late January and published a thread (roughly) weekly. We will continue to do so until the crisis subsides. Along the way, we’ve debunked conspiracy theories, analyzed complex medical peer-reviewed studies, examined economic data from every possible angle, and shared common sense household practices to help keep your family safe. We have learned a great deal. Instead of being fearful, we believe in being informed.
Since the international press turned their attention to the story of COVID19, we’ve been surprised by the dissemination of disinformation. Please don’t necessary assume bias by the media, as it could be we are merely 6-7 weeks ahead of their learning curve…. or already debunked a particular conspiracy theory. COVID19/ Wuhan Virus/ SARS2 doesn’t care about politics and strikes without discrimination. That said, as in any crisis, there will be those who seek to use the crisis for political advantage.
Please note, our thread will never be complete. It can’t be. New information breaks daily, and we update constantly in the comment section found below. If you have information, please share it in the comments, and please, include the date and source. We appreciate all sources.
Our thread will be subdivided into the following subjects, for individual ease of use:
Primary update links. The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world, the CDC, and WHO, and includes the links for our past threads.
Hard Data Medical Information- Explanation about testing, reliance on China for drugs, analysis of NE Journal of Medicine results and other published papers.
Vaccine and theraputics (new/old drugs to alleviate symptoms) news and updates
Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
China Responses, attempt to cover actions, or secrecy in results discovered.
An aggregate of info/responses from other countries, listed by country.
Economic impact from around the world. A change in economic activity will indicate a “return to normal”.
Speculation/debunking on how the virus started
Media Bias, political response, and debunking section, like the article from AP News, overt bias from Politico, etc.
Other medical info to boost immune system, herbal remedies, ways to keep your house clean and NOT spread the virus to others.
Hard links for OTHER valuable sources/blogs and a brief sentence or two about what they provide
***** Addressing the issue of TESTING. Let’s get this out of the way, asap.
The media is driving much of the panic in the USA over this virus, but in our opinion the media is being unfairly criticized as is the Trump Administration. We’re all human. When we are uncertain, we assume the worst. To be FAIR to the media and the politicians, the problem is China’s secrecy. China is to blame for this global problem. Lack of accurate information from Communist China compounds the problem in the general public (which is why people are buying toilet paper and Campbell’s soup) and the slide in global Stock Markets. For instance, for months, we thought we had a death rate of over 4%. Now we know the death rate, for those who actually developed pneumonia which is far closer to 2%, only slightly greater than a regular flu, and the rate will probably go lower as more people in western democracies are tested. Remember, over 80% of people who test positive, never even go to a hospital. We’re talking about 2% pneumonia cases in the 20% of serious cases, which is 4/10ths of 1% or one person in every 250 who test positive…. and those are rates for China, not western democracies with excellent health care systems. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387
In another article in the Journal, Guan et al.5 report mortality of 1.4% among 1099 patients with laboratory-confirmed Covid-19. We’re narrowing in on real results.
If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%. This suggests that the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza (which has a case fatality rate of approximately 0.1%) or a pandemic influenza (similar to those in 1957 and 1968) rather than a disease similar to SARS or MERS, which have had case fatality rates of 9 to 10% and 36%, respectively.2
Therefore, when the President says he believes, or “has a hunch” the “death rate” will be far less than 1%, and Sec Azar agreed with him at the CDC presser of March 6th, and Sec Azar stated that assumption is in line with these results published in the NE Journal of Medicine, the President was correct. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2002387 And when Chris Hayes of MSNBC criticizes the President’s “hunch”, insists the President is stupid and should “go play golf for a month” and let the grown ups handle the problem……….. people like Chris Hayes are incorrect, spreading panic and disinformation, distrust of government, for political means and corporate profit.
Not everyone in the USA needs a test for COVID19, once a week. The idea that any government could flip a switch and make available testing for 350 million people on a daily request is patently absurd…………. AND Pundits screaming “I need a test NOW”, when they aren’t even sick, is intentionally designed to create more panic, more financial loss, for all countries. The media has become hyperbolic, the public is being unreasonable, and we all need to calm down and use a little common sense.
March 6, 2020: The Chinese government sent the sequence of the virus to the USA in the beginning of January. The CDC developed a test based on the sequence but had no live virus for samples. There was nothing wrong with the CDC test, this is a media myth. The CDC test was/is accurate and always has been. Any physician or public health official who needed to conduct a test was allowed to submit to CDC for results. Presidential Press Conference, March 6, 2020, at the CDC.
In the beginning of our virus issue …. shipping the samples to Atlanta for testing caused a delay of a day or two. Yet, it’s vital for a national government to be able to accrue results, look for hot spots of infection, so they can take quick and decisive action to close borders/business/issue advisories, shut down ports, etc. in various regions of the country. Does not matter if the administration would be Dem or Repub. The ability to make decisions at the highest levels, as quickly as possible, cannot be hindered.
Months later, as we have more people in the USA with the virus, we needed to make testing easier and closer to physicians in the field. Yet, if “Dr. Drew” developed ONE test in Hollywood, and “Dr. OZ” developed a different test in NYC, we would have no reliable data, right? This involves enlisting the help of states’ labs and their testing facilities. We had to make sure all states issued the same test the same way, right? States’ labs needed to submit to FDA for approval so we have the same protocols across all states to ensure precise results. This regulation existed under the FDA protocols established for the Ebola Outbreak under the Obama Administration. President Trump’s Admin cleared/removed red tape for necessary approval of “everything” submitted to FDA and streamlined the process (once a lab was checked and approved, they were fine to proceed). This is not a partisan criticism of the Obama Admin by the Trump Admin, it was merely a fact, and the process was altered to suit the threat we now face. Of course, the media headlines went something like, “Trump blames Obama for COVID19 problems.” Not helpful and inserts politics into a medical problem we all face.
While trying to get the states health departments up to speed, some did well on first pass (with FDA) but a few did not. All states are now complying with the exact same protocols. This is a good thing for all Americans. We don’t need different results from California to Maine. Additionally, the Trump Admin enlisted the private sector, companies like Quest Diagnostics and Abbott Labs, to process as many tests as we may need……. this means tests can be done as fast as humanly possible, within a doctor’s office, very soon. In the interim, testing is still available from CDC or states.
Please know, this particular virus has been difficult to detect in ALL countries, and we list below a litany of sources detailing the problem of diagnosing COVID19. False positives created more “community spread”, meaning, someone who was tested and thought to be free of COVID19 then traveled or spread the disease to many people in their own circle of contacts. In some cases, drastic measures were necessary, CT Scans were required to detect the virus, which hides deep in lung tissue … or the problem of a more complicated test of lung sputum, which then indicated 11% more incidents of presence of COVID19.
As the physicians from CDC explain presser of March 6th linked above, a drive through, cotton swab, pregnancy type test….. and sampling the general public, as was done in South Korea, is not really helpful when it comes to identifying particular circles of contacts which spread the disease. First, there were problems with those tests in South Korea, and second, the gov’t needs to allocate efforts to tracking those who were specifically contacted to make them aware of potential virus and STOP the contact spread. It’s a better use of resources.
Social media accelerates the problem of panic in the USA as it does in other free societies. Example: Young female New Yorker reads a story about a citizen who tested positive in NYC. She coughs at work that day and goes to visit her doctor seeking a test for COVID19 for reassurance she does not have the virus. Doctor asks her questions, but refuses her test (she’s only been to Long Island for Christmas in the past 3 months). Doctor tells her to go home, rest, take meds for her cold. Woman goes home and takes a day off work, spending the day on the couch, surfing social media. She is now convinced she was refused a $1400 COVID19 test available via her private insurer, because there are not enough tests, the President is awful, all Asian people are infected, and she thinks she will die…… which she explains to all her friends on social media….. creating further panic, flooding doctor’s offices and state and local health departments.
Any objective person can see where this would create a problem of overloading our health care system, create bigger problem by limiting supplies for healthcare workers, they need to treat the truly sick, AND possibly MORE illness/death created by spending valuable time on those who were never sick……… but just nervous. Below, we detail a story of Veterinarians pleading with people to stop buying masks because they don’t have enough to operate on our pets.
Additionally, there is a financial component on testing. Below, we provide links to sources claiming cost of up to $1400 per test. Private labs who operate “for profit” offered their version of “tests” locally to hospitals, to get around a delay of a few days at CDC, and leaked to media the “ease of their operation” which of course, came at a price….. Media complied, and yes, over-hyped the concern about the virus, leading to states demanding MORE control over testing, which would be more convenient, yet the Governors also demanded the Federal Government to pay for an ever increasing number of differing tests, using different protocols, which created bad data to get a real picture of the virus spread in the USA. We needed one accurate test, to which everyone adhered.
*****Hard Data Medical ~ America’s Vulnerability to China for Pharmaceuticals and Medical Supplies
Yes, the USA is dependent on China for many pharmaceuticals as well as the ingredients to create these pharmaceuticals. Part of the 4-pronged approach of the Trump Admin is to address the immediate need for these supplies………… as well as look at long term national security implications of shipping all our health theraputics (manufacture of common medicines) overseas for the past 30yrs. Below, we list several articles on this topic, as well as the Peter Navarro interview. Navarro and now others, are in charge of addressing this problem.
Rosemary Gibson, Senior Advisor to the Hastings Center, took three years to investigate the state of Americas pharmaceuticals, culminating in the book “China RX”.
Did you know the last aspirin factory in the USA closed down in 2004?
Did you know that the USA can no longer MAKE Vitamin C?
Did you know the USA no longer makes penicillin?
Did you know tainted Heparin from China cause many deaths of American citizens….. it was Made in China. And did you know that our politicians have known about the problem/national security/health security for decades?
Also within this program is an interview with Mike Bowen, Senior VP and owner of Prestige Ameritech, the last manufacturer of N-95 Medical Grade Masks in the USA. It’s an interview which will make most Americans scream in frustration, and cry because of the ineptness of our bureaucrats and trade policies……. The facility used to supply about 79% of the market in the USA until purchased by Kimberly Clark….. shut down and shipped overseas, losing thousands of jobs and endangering Americans. It’s a must watch.
March 2, 2020: Breitbart. Dr Marc Siegel. The coronavirus outbreak illustrates the need for America’s economy to decouple from China, assessed Siegel. “We’re relying on China for 90 percent of our ingredients for pharmaceuticals,” Siegel remarked. “That hopefully will change as a result of this because we’re going to end up with tremendous shortages of basic drugs, including antibiotics and blood pressure medication if this continues much longer in Wuhan.” Siegel concluded, “This is a wake-up call that we must make more of our pharmaceuticals here in the United States.” https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2020/03/01/dr-marc-siegel-on-coronavirus-ive-never-seen-an-emerging-contagion-handled-better/
The Trump Admin has a 4-prong approach to their task force dealing with Wuhan Flu. ONE portion of the problem relates to immediate procurement of drugs and supplies which are no longer made in the USA. Peter Navarro was tasked with this problem in Mid-January, slightly ahead of the official designation of the task force on January 31, 2020. Since then, Steve Mnuchin Sec of Treas, and others have been added to the Task Force as well as various aides.
Maria my job at the White House during this crisis is to review the supply chains we need to treat corona. There’s over 30 different elements just for that alone. And what I’ve learned so far and not surprisingly is that we’ve offshored far too much of our supply chain not just for corona but also for the essential medicines we need… In terms of the immediate issue face masks, the N95 face masks. China put export restrictions on those masks and then nationalized an American factory that produces them there. So we’re dealing with that in Trump time.
While the transmission mechanism for #coronavirus may now be “community spread,” its origin was indisputably Wuhan, China. Being commercially dependent on nations with appalling health regulations (if any) is a disaster waiting to happen. And here we are! https://t.co/ujLpb1FQhe
Highlights • SARS-CoV-2 uses the SARS-CoV receptor ACE2 for host cell entry • The spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 is primed by TMPRSS2 • Antibodies against SARS-CoV spike may offer some protection against SARS-CoV-2
Summary The recent emergence of the novel, pathogenic SARS-coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) in China and its rapid national and international spread pose a global health emergency. Cell entry of coronaviruses depends on binding of the viral spike (S) proteins to cellular receptors and on S protein priming by host cell proteases. Unravelling which cellular factors are used by SARS-CoV-2 for entry might provide insights into viral transmission and reveal therapeutic targets. Here, we demonstrate that SARS-CoV-2 uses the SARS-CoV receptor ACE2 for entry and the serine protease TMPRSS2 for S protein priming. A TMPRSS2 inhibitor approved for clinical use blocked entry and might constitute a treatment option. Finally, we show that the sera from convalescent SARS patients cross-neutralized SARS-2-S-driven entry. Our results reveal important commonalities between SARS-CoV-2 and SARS-CoV infection and identify a potential target for antiviral intervention.
February 29, 2020: New England Journal of Medicine. Wohan flu. We extracted data regarding 1099 patients with laboratory-confirmed Covid-19 from 552 hospitals in 30 provinces, autonomous regions, and municipalities in China through January 29, 2020. The primary composite end point was admission to an intensive care unit (ICU), the use of mechanical ventilation, or death. The median age of the patients was 47 years; 41.9% of the patients were female. The primary composite end point occurred in 67 patients (6.1%), including 5.0% who were admitted to the ICU, 2.3% who underwent invasive mechanical ventilation, and 1.4% who died. Only 1.9% of the patients had a history of direct contact with wildlife. Among nonresidents of Wuhan, 72.3% had contact with residents of Wuhan, including 31.3% who had visited the city. The most common symptoms were fever (43.8% on admission and 88.7% during hospitalization) and cough (67.8%). Diarrhea was uncommon (3.8%). The median incubation period was 4 days (interquartile range, 2 to 7). https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2002032?query=RP
March 6, 2020: REGULAR FLU SEASON IN THE USA ~ From NBC. At least 34 million Americans have been sickened with the flu so far this season and an estimated 20,000 people have died from it, with the illness taking a higher-than-expected toll on children, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported Friday. As of Feb. 29, there also were 136 flu-related deaths in children reported this season. That total is higher than every season since reporting began in 2004-2005 with the exception of the 2009 pandemic, the CDC said.
March 6, 2020: Small study of 103 cases within China showing the virus can and has mutated. “In the study, a group of researchers in China analyzed the genomes of coronaviruses taken from 103 patients with COVID-19, the disease caused by SARS-CoV-2, in Wuhan, China, the epicenter of the outbreak. The team found differences in the genomes, which they said could be categorized into two “strains” of the coronavirus: the “L” type and the “S” type, the researchers wrote in the study, which was published Tuesday (March 3) in the journal National Science Review. Repeated here https://www.livescience.com/coronavirus-mutations.html
1. China does not have enough tests kits to document all suspected cases. The test can easily show a negative for people with the disease. Politically, China has good reason to lie. Also since it is a deep lung infection a cheek or throat swap can give a false negative. Coughed up sputum gives 11% more positives.
2. The virus attaches to ACE2 expressers deep in the lungs. Men have 4 times as many ACE2 expressers as women and are 3 times as likely to get it. Asians have 5 times as many as Africans/Europeans.One study seemed to indicate a physical – ethnic – vulnerability – more ACE2 receptors. – https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.26.919985v1.full
In early stats, (Jan2 – 41 people) less than half had underlying diseases BUT it does affect those with chronic inflammatory diseases including diabetes, hypertension, and cardiovascular disease (probably asthma too.)
3. Those without symptoms or with very mild symptoms can spread it. It can be spread via coughs, contact surfaces and with feces. Diarrhea is one of the possible symptoms. (Not good for San Fran-feces.)
4. We do not know how many without symptoms may have come over on early flights. Running a temperature many not appear immediately after contact with the virus. ”mean incubation period to be 6.4 (5.6 – 7.7, 95% CI) days, ranging from 2.1 to 11.1 days” https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.27.20018986v2
”….time in hospital prior to death 10+ days I think for most of them…. …I have seen several references that said about 25% of confirmed cases get serious complications and something like 15% end up in ICU.” – Larry L.
76% of the confirmed 2019-nCov cases from 1 hospital in Wuhan required oxygen therapy.
6. The first victim here in the USA required a long hospital stay of at least 2 weeks. He was still coughing after two weeks and therefore probably still infectious.
7. People the most at risk are 50 years and over with pre-existing chronic inflammatory diseases. (Patriot Nurse)
♦️ it is an RNA virus that mutates easily, ♦️ it is more contagious than SARS, ♦️ and it can spread from an asymptomatic person.
This means that even someone who has recovered from the virus can transmit it, making it more difficult to curb its spread.
As a result, Hsieh said it is possible that the virus could stay dormant in the body after recovery and come back to haunt the host in winter or when their immune system is weakened…. *
MASKS ”There is a minimum effective infectious dose. Greater doses increases the likelihood of infection. This also affects the incubation period. The lower the exposure, the longer the time needed for the infection to get going internally; and with that, the longer it will be before that person becomes infections and/or shows symptoms. Recall that most symptoms are due to activation of the immune system, and not from the infection itself.” — cdquarles
For the painter/farmer masks: (N95 or N100) 3m has p100 filters with no sorbents, such as #2091, and then I saw ‘improved’ version #2291 I think. The 2091 are bright fuscia. I think I’ve seen people ambulating near Stanford hospital sporting these as facial fashion. Much easier to breath, and very comfortable with the 7502 ‘faceplate’. I had no sense of ‘rebreathing’ or claustro.
A robust research effort is currently under way to develop a vaccine against Covid-19.10 We anticipate that the first candidates will enter phase 1 trials by early spring. Therapy currently consists of supportive care while a variety of investigational approaches are being explored.11 Among these are the antiviral medication lopinavir–ritonavir, interferon-1β, the RNA polymerase inhibitor remdesivir, chloroquine, and a variety of traditional Chinese medicine products.11 Once available, intravenous hyperimmune globulin from recovered persons and monoclonal antibodies may be attractive candidates to study in early intervention. Critical to moving the field forward, even in the context of an outbreak, is ensuring that investigational products are evaluated in scientifically and ethically sound studies.12
Remdisovir, an AIDS drug is being discussed and we have some reports of success. Peter Navarro of the Trump Administration indicated approximately 100K doses would be available by the end of February as manufacturer of the drug, Gilead Sciences gears up production.
Other experts woefully admit it will be difficult to create a vaccine for Coronavirus, and even if they could, if everything went perfectly, it would be at least November before a vaccine would be available. Here are a few sources discussing the issue:
February 28, 2020: The first Covid-19 vaccine in China is expected to be ready for clinical trials by the end of April, according to Xu Nanping, China’s vice-minister of science and technology. Health officials from WHO have noted that Gilead’s remdesivir has demonstrated efficacy in treating the coronavirus infection. The US commenced clinical trials in humans at the University of Nebraska Medical Center to test the safety and efficacy of the drug. The first patient to be administered the drug is an evacuee from the Diamond Princess cruise ship. https://www.clinicaltrialsarena.com/analysis/coronavirus-mers-cov-drugs/
February 28th, 2020: The National Medical Products Administration of China has approved the use of Favilavir, an anti-viral drug, as a treatment for coronavirus. The drug has reportedly shown efficacy in treating the disease with minimal side effects in a clinical trial involving 70 patients. The clinical trial is being conducted in Shenzhen, Guangdong province. https://www.clinicaltrialsarena.com/analysis/coronavirus-mers-cov-drugs/
Very encouraging, February 28, 2020: Over 16 companies are working on vaccines., over 30 companies are working on treatment sofor symptoms. Dozens of universities and countries are working on treatments and vaccines. Here is the entire list and description of each. https://www.clinicaltrialsarena.com/analysis/coronavirus-mers-cov-drugs/
Israeli scientists say they have made good progress on a Covid-19 vaccine https://t.co/7SPL1Co359
February 28, 2020: Ryan Saavedra, Daily Wire Israeli scientists are reportedly only a few weeks away from having developed the first vaccine to combat the coronavirus, which originated in China, and could have the vaccine available 90 days after that. “Congratulations to MIGAL [The Galilee Research Institute] on this exciting breakthrough,” Science and Technology Minister Ofir Akunis said, according to The Jerusalem Post. “I am confident there will be further rapid progress, enabling us to provide a needed response to the grave global COVID-19 threat,” Akunis said, referring to the disease caused by the novel coronavirus. A team of scientists at MIGAL had been working for years on a vaccine against an infectious bronchitis virus (IBV).
February 28th, 2020: Interview with Dr. Anthony Fauci, testing on vaccine will take place over next two months.
Closer to a Cure: Dr. Anthony Fauci projects a Coronavirus vaccine will be tested within the next two months, bringing us closer to combating the virus. #AmericaFirst#MAGA#Dobbspic.twitter.com/yIKDe2jOoa
Always check Lancet Magazine, British publication, one of the most highly regarded institutions on subject of Coronavirus, discrediting rumor that this virus is anything but natural. AND rumors to such will make the problem more difficult to resolve….. (which sounds like a political statement).
October 18, 2019: Event 201 The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation hosted Event 201, a high-level pandemic exercise on October 18, 2019, in New York, NY. The exercise illustrated areas where public/private partnerships will be necessary during the response to a severe pandemic in order to diminish large-scale economic and societal consequences. http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/event201/
January 6, 2020: USA has been offering assistance to China since January 6th, at least 7 times we know of and President Trump is in constant communication with Chairman XI.
January 22, 2020: On 22 January, the US CDC reported the first case of 2019-nCoV in the US, causing the benchmark S&P 500 index to slide 0.3% on the stock market, according to the Financial Times.
Late January: “With the Center for Disease Control (CDC) having confirmed the first case of a Wuhan coronavirus on 21 January followed by a second on 24 January, three international airports each in the US and Canada officially announced measures for coronavirus prevention, with European airports too taking similar steps. The CDC expanded the screening to 20 airports within a week due to the growing spread of the virus.” https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/features/coronavirus-outbreak-responding-china-wuhan/
1- HHS has RFP tomorrow for personal protective equipment, includes 1/2 Billion Masks, gloves, suits
2- 3 Treatment options, 1-remdesivir IV drug in clinical trials, trying to secure dosage 2-Develop oral antivirals in rapid time 3-monoclonal antibodies to help build up immune system
3-vaccine development in 1/2 time
4-point of care diagnostics, adapting handheld devices to be able to do field diagnostics
Navarro’s job is enormous, breaking supply chains to supply the USA. “Maria my job at the White House during this crisis is to review the supply chains we need to treat corona. There’s over 30 different elements just for that alone. And what I’ve learned so far and not surprisingly is that we’ve offshored far too much of our supply chain not just for corona but also for the essential medicines we need… In terms of the immediate issue face masks, the N95 face masks. China put export restrictions on those masks and then nationalized an American factory that produces them there. So we’re dealing with that in Trump time.https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/02/trump-trade-adviser-navarro-china-put-export-restrictions-on-n95-face-masks-then-nationalized-a-us-factory-that-produces-them-there-video/
January 30, 2020: Trump Admin assembled a unified task force across all agencies to coordinate all response efforts across the totality of government. Official.
January 30, 2020: Trump signs proclamation, using Presidential authority pursuant to Section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, temporarily suspending the entry into the United States of foreign nationals. Restrictions were first to limit people traveling from Wuhan, 14 days MANDATORY quarantine. Then advanced to include all travelers from China, 14 days self-quarantine. All foreign national who traveled within China in the prior 14 days, were denied entry.
January 30, 2020: HHS Secretary Alex Azar declared a nationwide public health emergency.
February 2, 2020: Effort took a few days to implement, taking effect, formally on February 2. President Trump; and in accordance with the declaration, at 5:00 p.m. EST; Sunday, February 2nd, the U.S government implemented temporary measures to increase detection & containment of the coronavirus proactively. Effective February 2nd.
February 2, 2020: Immediately after ordering travel bans for those entering the USA after traveling in China, the criticism and charges of “racism” came from the media. “Sun Feb 2, the Trump Admin ordered U.S. travelers to China’s Hubei province to be held in a mandatory quarantine for two weeks, the anti-Trump article by @AliceOllstein at Politico quoted “healths experts” who said this will make it worse because people will hide their symptoms.”
February 4, 2020: Politico writer Dan Diamond (among many other MSM pundits) criticizes the Trump Admin for restricting travel from China….. because it’s racist. ” “The Trump admin’s quarantine and travel ban in response to the Wuhan coronavirus could UNDERCUT international efforts to fight the outbreak by antagonizing Chinese leaders, as well as stigmatizing people of Asian descent, according to public health experts and lawmakers.” The same Politico writer would later criticize the President Trump for not acting quickly enough on March 7th. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/04/coronavirus-quaratine-travel-110750
February 4, 2020: “WHO chief @DrTedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said Tuesday (Feb 4, 2020) that widespread travel bans and restrictions weren’t needed to stop the outbreak and could ‘have the effect of increasing fear and stigma, with little public health benefit.'” – https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/04/coronavirus-quaratine-travel-110750
February 25-26th: President requests 2.5 billion to fight Coronavirus, including developing a vaccine. Schumer/Pelosi criticize the President for acting too slowly, when they criticized him for over-reacting a month ago. Schumer insists the President has NO PLAN, but insists the President needs more money, proposes 8.5 billion dollars. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/feb/25/schumer-trump-spar-over-incompetence-coronavirus-f/
February 26, 2020: Chelsea Clinton is rolled out, writing articles, criticizing the Trump Administration for Coronavirus response, media using the virus as a weapon to tank the market. Using it as a weapon to harm the President’s political aspirations for 2020 reelection. Disgusting.
February 28, 2020: Washington State ~ “Hours later in Washington, officials announced that they had also identified two presumptive new cases of COVID-19. One case involved a woman who had recently traveled to an area in South Korea where the virus was spreading. The other involved a high school student who became ill on February 24. The student did not attend classes while he had symptoms, but the school announced that it will be closed on Monday for cleaning. The student had not had any contact with people known to have the virus, and the source of their infection remains unknown.https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/28/21158429/california-coronavirus-covid-19-santa-clara-unknown-source-second-case
February 28, 2020: Pro-Publica. Problems with CDC testing kits. CDC insists on developing their own test, 100% perfect, and FDA demands no incident of false positive from SARS or MERS. Seen as wasting valuable time when hours count. https://www.propublica.org/article/cdc-coronavirus-covid-19-test
February 28, 2020: President gives a chopper presse
r on Coronavirus, slams media coverage.
February 28, 2020: Larry Kudlow gives a presser in the White House Briefing Room on Ecnomic Impact of Coronavirus.
February 29, 2020: President gives a Saturday Presser in the White House on Coronavirus. More travel restrictions: NO travel to Iran. NO people allowed into the U.S. who was in Iran for the past 14 days. Italy and South Korea: Level 4 Advisory against travel to these places. Working with other countries to set up and get running, medical screening facilities for foreign nationals who want to travel TO the U.S. Make sure that state / local medical facilities have the resources they will need. More supplies: “Average American does not need to go out and buy a mask.” Protect our healthcare providers. 43 MILLION masks on hand; 3M to provide millions more per month. Other medical supplies are in the process of being acquired. Provide “seamless” planning between medical facilities. (See USA Today video link below)
Sec. Alex Azar takes over from VP Pence. “Risk is Low and remains Low — but it can change rapidly.” Reminded that he said the virus would spread. Most people would have only milk symptoms. Stay at home and treat it like a very bad cold. Lower amount of travel to and from the most impacted areas. (See USA Today video link below)
Dr. Fauci takes over from Sec. Azar. Situation is evolving. “Community spread” — state and local health + CDC need to cooperate to trace and contact. U.S. as a whole is still at low risk BUT situation is evolving. Addressing the new challenge of Community Spread: POTUS gets credit for shutting off travel to/from Communist China. Contain from within and without. (See USA Today video link below)
New person (unknown) takes over from Dr. Fauci. New cases being evaluated aggressively. Early case recognition / contact tracing / isolation and quarantine. Re-emphasized that the risk to the U.S. public in general is low. (See USA Today video link below)
February 29, 2020: VP Pence gives and interview after being placed in charge of the Coronavirus task force.
February 29, 2020: Governor Inslee declares State of Emergency in Washington State, following first death of Coronavirus. Coronavirus cases of unknown origin found in California, Washington and Oregon“A second case of COVID-19 with an unknown origin was identified in Santa Clara county, California on Friday, and two other potential cases of unknown origin were identified in Oregon and Washington state. This indicates to health experts that the novel coronavirus — which causes the disease COVID-19 — is likely spreading through more than one community in the US.
February 29, 2020: First case of COVID19 found in Oregon. Ground Report ~ “We have the first case of covid here in Oregon this morning. It’s up north in Clackamas, a school teacher at Forest Hills elementary .they shut the school down yesterday and are in the process of notifying the parents. I live an hour and half from there down in southern oregon.i did stock up on vitamin C and and extra TP, I buy food for a month every month ,I don’t like shopping every week.getting meat tomorrow from a local ranch, extra bread all going into chest freezer. Bought 50 pd each of beans and rice ,won’t go hungry on those.been calming my kids down all week telling them to stop watching the news and helping them get extra food in.”
March 1, 2020: Washington State ~ Ground Report. A worker in a South King County post office processing center is sick. They don’t handle mail there, they handle packages. I think they are closing that facility to disinfect it. Additional Ground report ~ Per the local news (Seattle) at 11:30pm there are 13 confirmed covid 19 cases in Washington (includes the two dead) and 5 schools will be closed tomorrow. We have 7 first responders and a fire station closed. ‘A US Mail distribution center had a virus employee. They closed it to bring in “deep cleaning specialists, ” with the plan being to open it again when done.
March 2, 2020: Texas, San Antonio. Ground Report ~ “I heard today that the ones brought in to San Antonio from the cruise ship and some from China have been in self quarantine for 14 days with no positives and have been released.” Can anyone confirm with source?
March 2, 2020: NYSE rises to highest single point gain ever, up 1,293 points on the day.
March 3, 2020: FED announces a 1/2 point rate cut to help the economy. Caused by Coronavirus issue. G7 finance ministers met last night.
March 8, 2020: Dr Fauci appeared on Sunday Morning Shows where he was asked if it was possible the USA could quarantine massive numbers of people as Italy has done. The soundbite being pushed in media from Dr. Fauci, “Anything is possible”, is designed again, to push more fear of the unknown. Is anything possible? Yes. The USA has SOP’s ready on the shelf in case aliens land on the White House lawn. https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/486492-fauci-on-idea-of-shutting-down-epicenters-of-coronavirus-anythings
*******Not an American response although Americans are involved. More like a Davos response from the UK countries working with American Pharma.
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March 6, 2020: In a highly alarming video, Dr. Richard Hatchett, CEO of the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations was interviewed in the UK, and this video has been viewed over a million times in 36 hours. He refers to fighting the virus as a “war” in China, compares it to WW2. Reporter wonders if it’s impossible in the UK because “we” are too capitalist/globalist……. His statements of “virus fatality is over 1%”, or later on “between 1% to 3%”, goes against BOTH studies done in China, (the one for 1099 people and the 475 people, signifying a fatality rate of 4/10ths of 1% in China as opposed to American seasonal Flu of 1/10th of 1%), and the published results in the New England Journal of Medicine.
Hatchett later admits COVID fatality COULD be less than 1%, and admits Wuhan normally has a death rate of 1500 from seasonal flu, and in this case we had 2400. He is pushing confirmation bias, and is “extremely concerned about the spread” in the USA “because they (uses the word “they” even though he is an American) don’t have a unified healthcare system because of “embedded inequities and injustices in the USA” – worried about “those who don’t have health insurance” and “those who depend on the government to provide meals for their schoolchildren.” NOTE: The Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations is located in Oslo, Norway, and accepts DONATIONS. They study and develop vaccines for profit. Implies we need 7 billion vaccines and the virus will be with us for years. The reporter NOTES he has a vested interest…… and Dr. Hatchett insists he has been working dispassionately, “we’re only trying to secure funds for the vaccine for (this disease)”, and states he has oversight from the World Bank for grants, and/or will happily return any funds left over……….. while at the same time insisting it is “scarier” than SARS or MERS.
Think of it, CEPI was founded in 2017, and they already have loans from the World Bank.
In January 2020, CEPI funded three teams working on a vaccine for SARS-CoV-2, being: Moderna, Inovio Pharmaceuticals, and the University of Queensland (UQ).[18][19] By February 2020, Inovio announced that it had produced a pre-clinical DNA-based vaccination to fight COVID-19 at its lab in San Diego.[20] Inovio collaborated with a Chinese firm to speed its acceptance by regulatory authorities in China for human trialing.[21] The strategy of the UQ team is to develop a molecular clamp vaccine that genetically modifies viral proteins to make them mimic the coronavirus and stimulate an immune reaction.[19][18]
In January 2020, CEPI announced a fourth SARS-CoV-2 project in a collaboration with their existing partner CureVac, to develop and manufacture a vaccine.[22] CEPI’s CEO, Dr Richard J. Hachett said in an interview with the FT that CEPI expected to have human trials within 16 weeks, but cautioned “All these timelines are aggressive and aspirational. As circumstances unfold there may be opportunities to reduce the timing but it is critically important that any new vaccine is safe and effective”.[8]
In February 2020, Bloomberg News, citing virologists, identified CEPI as a “key player in the race to develop a vaccine”;[2] a status other media outlets have attributed.[23][8] In reviewing vaccine development on the virus Vox said: “CEPI is a large part of why there are already dozens of Covid-19 vaccine candidates making their way through animal and human trials, as well as platforms to develop more”.[24]
(This is the interview linked above) In March 2020, Hachett gave an interview to Channel 4 News saying that “war is an appropriate analogy”, for the steps needed to counter the virus, and that “this is the most frightening disease that I have ever encountered in my career”, due to the virus’ unique combination of lethality and infectiousness.[25] Hatchett told The Daily Telegraph that coronaviruses are the most serious threat to public health since the Spanish flu, and that a vaccine will take up to 18 months to deliver at a cost of STG 1.5 billion.[26] Hatchett told Reuters that its funds for fighting the virus would be fully allocated by the end of March in its four existing projects, and that CEPI was launching a new funding call for USD 2 billion to support fighting the virus.[27][28][29]
Map of the provinces of China will help us get oriented. The province of Hubei and it’s capital of Wuhan are located the center of the country.
December 8th-9th, 2019: Taxi Cab drivers and physicians reported the problem in Wuhan as early as December 8th-9th. Dr. Li Wenliang died after contracting the virus while treating patients in Wuhan. In December, Li sent a message to fellow medical professionals warning of a virus he thought looked like SARS.Many have taken to posting under the hashtag “Can you manage, do you understand?” – a reference to the letter Dr. Li was told to sign when he was accused of disturbing “social order”.have taken to posting under the hashtag “Can you manage, do you understand?” – a reference to the letter Dr. Li was told to sign when he was accused of disturbing “social order”. He was told by police to “stop making false comments” and was investigated for “spreading rumors”. News of Dr. Li’s death became the top trending topic on Chinese social media, garnering an estimated 1.5 billion views. His death has also brought demands for action, with “Wuhan government owes Dr. Li Wenliang an apology” and “We want freedom of speech” among the hashtags trending, the BBC reported. Both hashtags were quickly censored. When the BBC said it searched Weibo early on Friday, hundreds of thousands of comments had been wiped. Only a handful remain. “This is not the death of a whistleblower. This is the death of a hero,” read one comment. https://www.worldtribune.com/coronavirus-the-latest-crisis-to-threaten-xi-jinpings-china-century/
December 31, 2019: On 31 December 2019, the Chinese authorities reported a case of pneumonia with an unknown cause in Wuhan, Hubei province, to the World Health Organisation (WHO)’s China Office. As more and more cases emerged, totaling 44 by 3 January, the country’s National Health Commission isolated the virus causing fever and flu-like symptoms and identified it as a novel coronavirus, now known to the WHO as 2019-nCoV. https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/features/coronavirus-outbreak-responding-china-wuhan/
January 20, 2020: WHO data, as of 20 January, there were 282 confirmed cases of the virus, 278 of which originated in China, centred around the city of Wuhan and the surrounding region with 258 cases. Of the 278 Chinese cases, 51 people were severely ill, 12 were in a critical condition and six deaths had been reported from Wuhan. https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/features/coronavirus-outbreak-responding-china-wuhan/
January 22nd -29th: Between 22 and 29 January, the disease continued to spread throughout Asia – new cases emerged in Singapore, Hong Kong, Sri Lanka, Cambodia, Nepal and Malaysia. Outside of East Asia, new cases have emerged in France, Germany, the UAE and Canada. Keep up-to-date with the countries affected here.
January 28, 2020: WHO director-general Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, held a meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping on 28 January. The two parties shared up-to-date information about the status of the outbreak and how they could further work together to improve containment – the WHO agreed to send international experts into China to support further assessments of the severity of this ongoing outbreak and provide guidance on continued prevention and management efforts.
Prior to February 7th: Statement from Chairman XI: “all-out efforts must be made in the prevention and control of the contagion”, and called on “party committees and governments at various levels as well as relevant departments to make people’s lives and health a top priority, devise meticulous plans, mobilise all available resources and take concrete and effective measures to contain further spread of the sickness” https://www.worldtribune.com/coronavirus-the-latest-crisis-to-threaten-xi-jinpings-china-century/
As much as 55-60% of China’s physicians have less than a Bachelors degree. Nurses are poorly trained. Latex gloves are rare. Procedure and sterile protocols common in the USA are not so common in China, AND the further we get from large metro centers, the worse it is. Interesting discussion with the Director of Apple News in Hong Kong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1Hud-ijzEo (Note: As of February 28th, this reporter was arrested by the CCP in Hong Kong)
February 9, 2020: WHO team was allowed into China February 9th. USA has been offering assistance to China since January 6th. WHO team will be confined to Beijing, NOT allowed to travel to Wuhan, only allowed to look at data (which is unreliable).
February 17, 2020: Director of Surgery for Wuhan’s most prestigious hospital, Dr Liu Zhiming, 51, died this morning (02/17/2020) after ‘all-out rescue efforts failed’, according to state broadcaster CCTV – resolving a state of confusion last night after local officials reported his death before later denying it. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8013267/Head-Wuhan-hospital-dies-coronavirus-Chinese-media.html
February 29, 2020: Ground report ~ “How’s this for government stupidity !There is a mass outbreak of this epidemic in Iran with hundreds dying and thousands of graves dug ready for the fallen. It would be commonsense to closed the Aussie borders to Iranians and make Australians coming here from Iran, spend 14 days at least in Quarantine.Instead our beloved dopey Australian government has done the opposite and allowed free entry for Iranians and anyone else coming here via Iran.so now we have an Iranian woman who flew in a week ago and then started work again as a beautician in a beauty parlour on the Gold Coast. She gave 40 odd women facial massages in a couple of days. And then felt ill and went to the hospital. And yes she is ill with COVID 19.Now that the poop is on the carpet our dopey dumbnut minister for Health greg Hunt, has decided to stop Iranians coming here without staying in a third country for 14 days. And Aussies coming back from Iran must self isolate for 14 days.
February 27, 2020: The Ministry of Civil Aviation, India, announced multiple preventive measures against the Wuhan coronavirus initially at 11 airports including Chennai, Vishakapatnam, Bengaluru, Bhubaneswar, Hyderabad, Cochin, Delhi, Mumbai, Amritsar, Kochi, and Kolkata. Thermal screening was extended to 20 airports with the infection spreading to other countries quickly. Arriving passengers that traveled to Chinese cities such as Wuhan in the preceding 14 days and having symptoms of the viral infection are being asked to provide a self-declaration, while international passengers from China and Hong Kong are being screened at the pre-immigration areas of the airports. Thermal cameras have been installed and airport signage being displayed at all the airports. Kerala is the state with the highest number of coronavirus suspects in India. https://www.airport-technology.com/features/coronavirus-measures-world-airports/
Iran:
Feb 20th, Sacred Muslim city of Qom, Iran, about 80 miles south of Tehran, has reported 50 cases of Coronavirus, city is shutting down.
Feb 24th, Heshmat Alavi reports as many as 18,000 cases in Iran and serious problems with infection in Iranian prisons.
February 27, 2020: Restrictions on Euro travel to area of Italian outbreak. Prague airport in the Czech Republic has designated separate gates for all passengers arriving from Italy. Airport employees have been directed to closely monitor passengers arriving from Italy and report any signs of respiratory disease to airport security. Frequent disinfection of arrival gates, buses and other areas handling passengers from Italy are also planned. Bratislava airport in Slovakia has implemented strict screening measures for passengers arriving from Italy, who are required to fill out a questionnaire to enable officials to identify any suspected cases. Similar screening measures have been implemented at Marco Polo Airport in Venice, and airports in Bosnia, Serbia, Croatia, Moldova, and Albania for passengers arriving from China and Italy. Bulgaria has cancelled all flights to Milan, Italy and implemented screening measures at the Sofia airport.Budget airlines such as EasyJet and Ryanair are operating their flights as usual, despite the spike in cases in Italy. The airlines are not providing an option for cancellations although several passengers have criticised the operators for their policies. https://www.airport-technology.com/features/coronavirus-measures-world-airports/
March 7, 2020:Dr. Faris Durmo MD., BSc.@Dr_FarrisD
10 % Lombardy doctors are infected
AT least 1060 self-isolating at home
AT least 2394 hospitalized
AT least 462 intensive care
Of 197 at least 49 are ages (62-95 yo)
4636 total cases 197deaths
Death ratio of 4.25 % from 2.5%
Approxim 9% admitted to ICU.
It’s actually 9% of the 20% who end up diagnosed, or about 2% of overall who have the virus. Fatality rate of 4/10ths of 1% agree with these numbers. Regular flu is 1/10th of 1%.
March 7, 2020: The Independent, reveals the scale of the impact on hospitals in Italy where 5,883 patients have been infected with the virus and 233 people have died as of 6pm on Saturday. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-italy-doctors-intensive-care-deaths-a9384356.html?utm_source=reddit.com
March 7, 2020. Italy’s borders closed 16 million in quarantine.
Cruise Ship docked and quarantined in Japan, the Diamond Princess, docked off Yokohama: had 600+ infected persons, of 3700 passengers. Americans were evacuated from the ship, evacuated from Japan and flown home by the State Dept. 14 tested positive, now quarantined in Nebraska, and at military bases in Texas and California.
February 29, 2020: PM Shinzo Abe gives a press conference updating Coronavirus situation in Japan, school closures, etc. Periscope found here: https://www.pscp.tv/w/1zqKVlomBelJB
March 1, 2020: Ground report ~ email from my Japanese friends who live about 100 km north of Tokyo. In addition to schools closed, most indoor activities are as well. She volunteers as a children’s story time, in English, at the city library and that has stopped. Husband plays in a couple of local bands…stopped. Husband’s mother (90+) is recovering from broken knee and visitors are now banned to enter the facility in Tokyo. Daughter was exhibiting her art in a well-known gallery in Ginza, it is now closed down. No toilet paper or paper products on the shelves.
March 1, 2020: Officially known as the Republic of San Marino, it’s a tiny country located within Italy, and east of Florence. San Marino has an unusually high number of cases of Coronavirus. 8X’s the amount of a NYC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%9320_coronavirus_outbreak
Saudi Arabia: Mecca is empty as Saudi Arabia bans pilgrimage amid Coronavirus.
Mecca—the home of the world's largest religious pilgrimage—is seen emptied out as Saudi Arabia has banned citizens and residents from performing the pilgrimage amid coronavirus concerns. https://t.co/upH8DzTOAjpic.twitter.com/DnV7XWTKFi
February 27: All passengers arriving in Malaysia are being screened for symptoms of coronavirus. Airline operators are also issuing Health Alert Card (HAC) to passengers to indicate their health status. Malaysia Airlines has cancelled many of its flights to Shanghai, Beijing and Hong Kong. Temperature screening has been introduced for all flights arriving at Changi and Seletar Airports in Singapore. Healthcare teams are screening passengers who look unwell at the aerobridges for inbound flights from China. Singapore Airlines and SilkAir have announced a reduction in services across their network due to weak demand, following the coronavirus outbreak. https://www.airport-technology.com/features/coronavirus-measures-world-airports/
February 26, 2020: – Over 1800 infected in South Korea, per Laura Ingraham interview with Americans in South Korea. Towns the size of Kansas City and no traffic on streets.
February 26, 2020: per Laura Ingraham Show, over 800,000 people in South Korea calling for impeachment of President Moon…… because he did not shut down the border with China fast enough. (Guess President Trump is looking pretty smart)
February 27, 2020: Airline crew flying to and from South Korean airports are being offered hazardous-material suits, in addition to disinfecting planes more frequently, after the first case of coronavirus infection was reported in South Korea. https://www.airport-technology.com/features/coronavirus-measures-world-airports/
February 29, 2020:#SouthKorea reports another 219 #COVID19 cases, bringing the total number to 3,150 according to the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Saturday. A record 813 new infections have been reported in the last 24 hours. 17 people have died so far.
March 2, 2020: Ground Report ~ “In Daegu, 1900 Shincheonji Church members have been tested for coronavirus. 1300 had symptoms & 600 did not.Among those 1300 with symptoms, 87.5% were confirmed with the virus.BUT out of the 600 WITHOUT symptoms, 70% were confirmed withthe virus.Over 80 percent infected, and moving towards 100 percent, false negatives plus time. Really illustrates the absence of immunity of a brand new virus, whereas there is natural immunity in the population to the common flus. Imagine what is happening in China at those group quarantine bed facilities and at thousands of group elderly care facilities. ( And we are suppose to believe their numbers)”
February 27: Thailand is implementing thermal screening at all of its 28 airports managed by the Department of Airports (DOA), which has directed to use thermal scans and thermometers. Thermal scanning is being performed at the U-Tapao Rayong-Pattaya International Airport managed by the Royal Thai Navy as well. https://www.airport-technology.com/features/coronavirus-measures-world-airports/
March 7, 2020: Major discussion of how the UK will handle Intensive Care Patients and overloaded hospitals, 6 beds to 10 beds. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-italy-doctors-intensive-care-deaths-a9384356.html?utm_source=reddit.com
Late January: “With the Center for Disease Control (CDC) having confirmed the first case of a Wuhan coronavirus on 21 January followed by a second on 24 January, three international airports each in the US and Canada officially announced measures for coronavirus prevention, with European airports too taking similar steps. The CDC expanded the screening to 20 airports within a week due to the growing spread of the virus.” https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/features/coronavirus-outbreak-responding-china-wuhan/
March 7, 2020: As of today, there are reported first cases of the Wuhan/SARS2 coronavirus in: Kentucky / Indiana / Tennessee / Virginia. Indiana infected person was recently at a large conference IN BOSTON before starting to show symptoms. Gov. Andy Beshear is considering a lockdown of all of HARRISON COUNTY, Kentucky, where the state’s first virus case was confirmed. The schools in that county are going to be closed for at least a week.
January 22, 2020: US CDC reported the first case of 2019-nCoV in the US, causing the benchmark S&P 500 index to slide 0.3% on the stock market, according to the Financial Times.
January 23, 2020: From Bloomberg. Wuhan, epicenter of Coronavirus outbreak, had a GDP of $213B in 2018, bigger than New Zealand. Lockdown casts economic cloud over China’s version of Chicago. It was moving into areas from chip-making to biomedicine & attracted Investment from 230 Fortune 500 firms. Honda Motor Co. is planing to evacuate staff & family from Wuhan. France’s PSA Group- Peugeot Cars & other brands, will also evacuate staffs. H&M has closed a total of 13 stores in the region. McDonald’s & Starbucks have closed locations without providing details. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-01-24/wuhan-virus-lockdown-casts-economic-cloud-over-china-s-chicago
February 7, 2020: Airlines status update: Tara Donaldson reported for Sourcing Journal that FedEx announced “adjusted” service in “many provinces in China,” and said Friday that customers “might experience delay.” UPS cancelled 22 flights to China. American Airlines cancelled all flights to China through March 27, and Delta did the same through April 30. British Airways, Lufthansa, United Airlines and Virgin Atlantic, among others, have all made similar moves, and Cathay Pacific, which has its main hub at Hong Kong International Airport, said it will more than halve its flight capacity to mainland China through the end of March, Donaldson reported. https://geostrategy-direct-subscribers.com/informed-consensus-on-wuhan-virus-indicts-chinese-communist-party/
February 7th, warning (of course, we already knew):
“This is going to be a significant disturbance in the supply chain,” said Sean Maharaj, managing director of global management consultancy AArete. “We compare this to the impact of SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome), but the export capability and global merchandise manufacturing was significantly different in terms of not only the volume coming out of China, but the complexity of the supply chains.”
Taking transportation alone, any goods coming out of China will face export challenges. “This is going to be a major issue in terms of shipments. Longshoremen, cargo ships are going to be short of volume, there’s going to be way too much capacity…and excess capacity is pushing down already fragile rates,” Maharaj said, adding that this comes on top of tariffs that have already weighed on costs. Air freight quotes have already gone up.
“This will go all the way through to warehousing and everything we do to get production on shelves,” he said. With companies like FedEx and UPS already making moves to halt service, delays may be the least of the supply chain’s concerns. “Once providers like that go into crisis mode, we’re looking at more than delays,” Maharaj said. “We’re talking about cancellations and non-shipments. I don’t think we know where the bottom is on this.”
China has thrown billions into their local banks and reduced ratio of cash reserves to lending, and China was low on USD reserves due to tariff war with USA. The Chinese central bank plans to pump $22 billion into the economy amid reports that the coronavirus or COVD19 will lower the expected growth of China’s economy from 2.1% to 1.2%. It’s likely to be far worse.
February 19, 2020: Is the CCP losing the “Mandate of Heaven”? Chinese culture is thousands of yrs old and steeped in tradition. The old Emperors were said to have the blessing from heaven, or “Mandate of Heaven”. This tradition continues to Chairman Xi and the CCP. To lose the Mandate would we far more severe than a loss of confidence. It would be tantamount to throwing the government out of the society. It’s a big deal. And it’s being discussed. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/chinas-mandate-heaven-jeopardy
Feb 20th, Goldman Sachs announces Coronavirus expected to impact up to 1% of GDP about a trillion dollars globally, market sinks 300 points https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaH79AEXMf8
Feb 20th – 34 Members of a church in South Korea have tested positive for Coronavirus, US Army shutting down portion of base there, theaters and commissary. Update on Feb 24th – over 800 people in South Korea test positive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaH79AEXMf8
February 22, 2020: From Bloomberg. Coronavirus isn’t just about a short term supply chain problem. It exposes the weakness of globalism. Globalization Comes Under Fire Amid Xivirus Stress Test – “Do we..still depend at the level of 90/95% of the supply chain of China for the auto,drug,aero.. industry, or do we draw the consequences of that situation to ..be more independent & sovereign? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-22/globalization-comes-under-fire-amid-coronavirus-stress-test
Coal usage in China is down 50%. China gets 70% of electricity production from coal…. per Professor Christopher Balding, Fulbright Univ in Saigon, Vietnam – one of the world’s leading authorities on REAL measurement of China’s economy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYG8nglcx_o
Real Estate sales almost completely shut down. Gov’t revenue is highly dependent on real estate tax on sales. In a city of 20 million, we might see 5-10 sales a day. Professor Christopher Balding, Fulbright Univ in Saigon, Vietnam – one of the world’s leading authorities on REAL measurement of China’s economy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYG8nglcx_o
Local Transportation cars/trains running at 15-20% of normal, China economy flat-lining. Professor Christopher Balding, Fulbright Univ in Saigon, Vietnam – one of the world’s leading authorities on REAL measurement of China’s economy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYG8nglcx_o
February 24, 2020: Amazon taking drastic action to get materials out of China and hold steady on Supply Chain (per Fox Biz, )
Feb 24, 2020: market opens down 997 points, begins slow slog back on fears of Coronavirus spreading outside China.
Toy Manufacturers concerned about Christmas items (last of our concerns right now)
February 24, 2020: Containers already in route to USA, carrying medical supplies, latex gloves, masks, surgical kits, etc., ordered returned to China. (FOX Biz)
February 24, 2020: Yield on the 10yr US Treasury bond almost hits all time low at 1.37% as foreign investors flood into safety of US Treasuries
February 24, 2020: Oil prices down, on report of oil use DOWN in China, we knew it weeks ago.
February 25, 2020: another 900+ points, down. Over-reaction and media pushing fear.
How many factory workers can survive 6 weeks without a paycheck?
Layoffs have begun in China to save the businesses
Chinese students in the USA report they cannot return home because mom/dad can’t afford to bring them home (not working), even if they could get a flight.
Reefer Units (a container which carries refrigerated goods) is plugged in when it arrives at port to maintain temperature. As of today, there are no more “plug-ins” available in the entire country. Shipping is at a standstill. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BvyBTMBR5c
Approximately 80% of China’s export economy is shut down.
Farmers are having problems getting trucks to take their food supplies into towns for deliver…… system shutdown.
Under pressure from leadership, the Apple factory reopened…. but only 10% of the workforce showed up for duty. Other province governors have barred companies from reopening.
China agreed to “half” their tariffs on US goods, looking for economic relief from the USA
Japan’s economy contracted 1.6% as they face Coronavirus (and a dumb idea about imposing a higher local sales tax more responsible for Japan lag in economy than COVID-19)
South Korea shut down their Hyundai plant due to lack of parts manufactured in China.
Statistics and information coming out of China are highly questionable.
Feb 24th, 2020: northern Italy shuts down. Milan described as a “ghost town”. Venice Carnival is cancelled. Schools, museums, theaters, religious events, all closed until March 1st, and re-assess. 55% of Italy’s GDP comes from this region.
February 28, 2020: MORE Good news. “Executives from U.S. poultry processor Sanderson Farms Inc (SAFM.O) said on an earnings call on Thursday that operations at China’s ports were slowly getting back to normal and most of its shipments have been delivered.”
March 2, 2020: NYSE rises to highest single point gain ever, up 1,293 points on the day.
March 3, 2020: FED announces a 1/2 point rate cut to help the economy. Caused by Coronavirus issue. G7 finance ministers met last night
March 9, 2020. OPEC thought they had a deal to cut production but Russia backed away, leading to a freefall in oil prices Monday morning. Goldman Sachs says we might go to $28 a barrel during Coronavirus as demand subsides.
We heard all kinds of rumors about the origins for COVID-19. First it was bat-soup, then Pandolins, but almost immediately we had a “conspiracy theory” about a bio-weapon accident/escape from a Level 4 lab in Wuhan, coincidentally close to the wet market. Did Coronavirus COVID-19 originate in Chinese bio-weapon lab? To this date no one knows the origin of the COVID19. Some scientists believe killer this strain may have begun in research facility within 10 minutes of the Wuhan wet fish market. Senator Tom Cotton raised the possibility, was criticized, and proven plausible by a study released on Feb 21st. Chinese Ambassador did not directly answer question in mid-February. Immediately the CCP media called out to discredit Senator Tom Cotton. Odd…… Here are articles discussing the possibility:
Chinese scientists believe the deadly coronavirus may have started life in a research facility just 300 yards from the Wuhan fish market. A new bombshell paper from the Beijing-sponsored South China University of Technology says that the Wuhan Center for Disease Control (WHCDC) could have spawned the contagion in Hubei province. ‘The possible origins of 2019-nCoV coronavirus,’ penned by scholars Botao Xiao and Lei Xiao claims the WHCDC kept disease-ridden animals in laboratories, including 605 bats. It also mentions that bats – which are linked to coronavirus – once attacked a researcher and ‘blood of bat was on his skin.’
BREAKING: Many leading Chinese scientists are starting to speak out and say COVID-19 (coronavirus) originated at a government bioweapons research facility in Wuhan, rather than the widely-held belief that it emerged from the city's Huanan seafood markets.https://t.co/DsxwJSAox2pic.twitter.com/TbshN8eDni
February 29, 2020: Some scientists believe Wuhan virus could not be a bioweapon because it had all the wrong characteristics. Others, including Dr. Boyle point to papers by Zhengli-Li Shi of Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, Wuhan Institute of Virology, that certainly support the possibility of bioweapon research. Theft of dangerous pathogens also support the possibility of bioweapon research.
March 1, 2020: Although initially it was thought that 2019-nCoV was spread only through human contact with animals because the source of the outbreak was believed to be a fish and live animal market in Wuhan, Chinese authorities have confirmed that the coronavirus can also be spread through human-to-human contact. Germany and Japan have confirmed domestic transmission of the virus from a person who had recently visited Wuhan to someone who had not visited the city or China in general. https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/features/coronavirus-outbreak-responding-china-wuhan/
February 2, 2020: Immediately after ordering travel bans for those entering the USA after traveling in China, the criticism and charges of “racism” came from the media. “Sun Feb 2, the Trump Admin ordered U.S. travelers to China’s Hubei province to be held in a mandatory quarantine for two weeks, the anti-Trump article by @AliceOllstein at Politico quoted “healths experts” who said this will make it worse because people will hide their symptoms.”
February 4, 2020: Politico writer Dan Diamond (among many other MSM pundits) criticizes the Trump Admin for restricting travel from China….. because it’s racist. ” “The Trump admin’s quarantine and travel ban in response to the Wuhan coronavirus could UNDERCUT international efforts to fight the outbreak by antagonizing Chinese leaders, as well as stigmatizing people of Asian descent, according to public health experts and lawmakers.” The same Politico writer would later criticize the President Trump for not acting quickly enough on March 7th. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/04/coronavirus-quaratine-travel-110750
February 4, 2020: “WHO chief @DrTedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said Tuesday (Feb 4, 2020) that widespread travel bans and restrictions weren’t needed to stop the outbreak and could ‘have the effect of increasing fear and stigma, with little public health benefit.'” – https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/04/coronavirus-quaratine-travel-110750
This is politically correct pablum, @DrTedros. The greatest enemy is of course the virus, not hurt feelings or fear or stigma. All this kind of idiocy does is make people question the WHO’s priorities. https://t.co/ser1Qqqxf7
Well, look at that. The Chinese Communist Party’s propaganda rag finally admits what I’ve said for a month: coronavirus didn’t start in Wuhan food market. So where did it originate? Time for answers from CCP. https://t.co/UTvcjvrHNz
February 25, 2020: On this day, Dr Nancy Messonnier, Rod Rosenstein’s sister, issued a statement from the CDC, and triggered perhaps the greatest and fastest selloff, market cap loss, in Stock Market history. Her boss’ boss’ boss, The Director of the CDC, would testify to Congress three days later, and said Dr. Nancy Messonnier “misspoke”. Here is the entire language of her dire statement:
It’s only a matter of time before the deadly new coronavirus spreads throughout the United States — and Americans should brace for the outbreak to upend their daily lives, federal health officials warned Tuesday.
“It’s not so much of a question of if this will happen in this country anymore but a question of when this will happen — and how many people in this country will have severe illness,” said Dr. Nancy Messonnier of the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. “We are asking the American public to prepare for the expectation that this might be bad.”
So far, only 57 cases of COVID-19 have been confirmed in the US — the vast majority people who have been evacuated from an infected cruise ship in Japan and are being held in quarantine. But the virus has now infected more than 80,000 people worldwide — killing 2,708 — since emerging in China last year, and Messonnier warned that it won’t stay contained in the US.
“As more and more countries experience community spread, successful containment at our borders becomes harder and harder,” said Messonnier, the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. She urged families, schools, businesses and communities to ready themselves.
“I had a conversation with my family over breakfast this morning, and I told my children that, while I didn’t think they were at risk right now, we as a family need to be preparing for significant disruption of our lives,” Messonnier said.
In a severe outbreak, mass gatherings would be canceled, schools would be closed and companies would have to let their employees work from home, she said.
“The disruption of daily life might be severe,” Messonnier said. “We want to make sure the American public is prepared.” She said she contacted her children’s school district to ask about its plans for online learning, or “tele-schooling,” should the buildings need to shutter, as they did during the 2009 H1N1 outbreak. She urged other parents to do the same. “These are things that people need to start thinking about now,” Messonnier said. “You should think about what you would do for child care if schools or day cares closed.”
Health care professionals are also gearing up for the crisis to grow. Researchers are scrambling to create a cure and officials announced Tuesday that the first clinical trial in the US for a possible treatment is underway at the University of Nebraska Medical Center. Patients who are hospitalized with the disease and show at least moderate symptoms will be eligible to join the study, which will eventually include 400 patients at 50 locations around the world.
“The goal here is to help the people that need it the most,” said Dr. Andre Kalil, who will oversee the study.
“He’s proposed cuts but Congress ignored him and increased financing instead. The National Institutes of Health and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention aren’t suffering from budget cuts that never took effect.” https://apnews.com/d36d6c4de29f4d04beda3db00cb46104
MIKE BLOOMBERG: “There’s nobody here to figure out what the hell we should be doing. And he’s defunded — he’s defunded Centers for Disease Control, CDC, so we don’t have the organization we need. This is a very serious thing.” — debate Tuesday night. https://apnews.com/d36d6c4de29f4d04beda3db00cb46104
JOE BIDEN, comparing the Obama-Biden administration with now: “We increased the budget of the CDC. We increased the NIH budget. … He’s wiped all that out. … He cut the funding for the entire effort.” https://apnews.com/d36d6c4de29f4d04beda3db00cb46104
THE FACTS: They’re both wrong to say the agencies have seen their money cut. Bloomberg is repeating the false allegation in a new ad that states the U.S. is unprepared for the virus because of “reckless cuts” to the CDC. Trump’s budgets have proposed cuts to public health, only to be overruled by Congress, where there’s strong bipartisan support for agencies such as the CDC and NIH. Instead, financing has increased. https://apnews.com/d36d6c4de29f4d04beda3db00cb46104
The CDC Grant Program is declining …… but that decline was set in motion by a congressional budget measure that predates Trump. Here is the entire article https://apnews.com/d36d6c4de29f4d04beda3db00cb46104
February 27, 2020: CDC Director Redfield testifies to Congress. Says Dr Nancy Messonnier (Rod Rosenstein’s sister) “misspoke” when she said “it’s not a question of if, but when”. Dr. Nancy Messonnier gave a dire statement on Tuesday which helped to trigger the stock market loss of over 3 trillion dollars. AND as soon as her statement was issued, a quick check showed 53 MSM articles pushing her statement and widespread panic. https://nypost.com/2020/02/27/cdc-director-downplays-claim-that-coronavirus-spread-is-inevitable/
The director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Thursday downplayed a fellow CDC official’s warning that spread of the COVID-19 coronavirus in the U.S. is inevitable, saying she misspoke. CDC Director Robert Redfield told Capitol Hill lawmakers Thursday that Dr. Nancy Messonnier’s statement Tuesday belied the fact that risk remains low.
“I think what Dr. Messonnier was trying to say — I think it maybe could have been done much more articulately from what the American public heard — was she was trying to say it’s also a good time for us to prepare if we have to go to more mitigation,” Redfield told a House subcommittee.He added: “We’re still committed to get aggressive containment, and I want the American public to know at this point that the risk is low.”
Messonnier, director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, had warned: “We expect we will see community spread in this country. It’s not so much a question of if this will happen anymore but rather more a question of exactly when this will happen and how many people in this country will have severe illness. … Disruption to everyday life might be severe.”
President Donald Trump contradicted Messonnier in a press conference from the White Housing briefing room Wednesday, telling reporters: “I don’t think it’s inevitable. It probably will. It possibly will. It could be at a very small level or it could be at a larger level.”
The president reportedly fumed about Messonnier’s warning, blaming it for the economic repercussions that ultimately saw the stock market lose over 3,000 points this week……
February 28, 2020: Compilation of horrific media reporting a panic where there is none:
February 29, 2020: At a rally in South Carolina, the President talked about the disgraceful way the media has handled the threat of Coronavirus. He referred to the MEDIA hoax, which the media then immediately portrayed as “Trump is not taking Coronavirus seriously, he thinks it is a hoax” Not true, and this sentiment was re-iterated at his Presser over the weekend. Congressmen and Pundits jumped onto the pileup provoking this comment, “Everyone from Bill Kristol to Ted Lieu is spinning this as if Trump was saying that the corovirus itself is a hoax. Even Politico is jumping in. “At what point does this constitute a disinformation campaign, as opposed to media spin?” is a question we should all be asking.” ~~~~~ Here is the video clip. Decide for yourself:
Washington Post, completely irresponsible headlines during a medical crisis.
February 29, 2020: Did the market over-react? Trying to find a sense of humor in a 3600 point sell-off is difficult but here, we find it. Author posits the reason * A significant change in economic fundamentals* A significant increase in ‘risk’ to the fundamentals* The market’s financial plumbing is breaking down* A meteor or alien invasion to end global existence has been spotted but its arrival is unknown (or a virus pandemic)Nothing is wrong with the economy, so, we’re expecting the aliens to land on the White House lawn. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/stock-market-expert-says-what-many-are-thinking-as-dow-sheds-4100-points-in-a-week-this-market-is-not-normal-2020-02-28
February 29, 2020: Article reeks of political bias, creates division, and promotes fear within the public. Headlines such as “Trump’s Coronavirus Response Bedeviled by Missteps, Raising Risk”(Implying the Virus belongs to Trump or was caused by Trump, and that his actions threaten the public), which is from Bloomberg News, when Mike Bloomberg is running against President Trump (although the 2500 global Bloomberg journalists are prohibited from covering Mike Bloomberg for President). Within the article, the authors attempt to paint every part of the Trump Administration as inept. “Most crucially, President Donald Trump and the government’s health-care authorities have appeared in contradiction about whether the country should regard the outbreak as a threat. (When the Trump Admin declared a Public Health Emergency a month prior) “The president has repeatedly said the risk is low, even assuring Americans that they’re unlikely to die from an infection. While that’s true, the CDC has said an American outbreak would likely cause widespread disruptions in everyday life, including closed schools and canceled business meetings.(Note the use of “would likely cause” – author is speculating, and assigning blame to the President for what MAY BE necessary steps to keep the population safe. How would this be a “misstep”, and wouldn’t the administration be negligent if they did not take precautions?) https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-29/trump-s-coronavirus-response-bedeviled-by-missteps-raising-risk
February 28, 2020: Dr. Drew, furious with the media for their panic-style reporting on the threat of COVID19.
February 29, 2020: President holds a presser with his task force members on Coronavirus. Media asks many questions. Good chance to debunk much of the false information in the media.
Questions now from the “Press” First question — trying go bash POTUS over calling the virus as a “hoax”. He shut that down. Next — “Dr. Fauci was being muzzled” — POTUS shut that down. DR. FAUCI GOES TO THE MIC AND SAYS THAT HE WAS NEVER SHUT DOWN OR MUZZLED. Next — Close the southern border? POTUS — “considering it very strongly” Next — how do Americans prepare? Dr. Fauci — ” go on with their normal lives” Next — U.S. troops in South Korea? POTUS — in touch in the generals and their government Next — ANOTHER one trying to bash POTUS over “hoax” — POTUS shut is own AGAIN — word was abused by the DemComs Next — People going about their normal lives — what about you and VP Pence? POTUS — we’re going to be in good shape. We’re getting around. Next — to Dr. Fauci: what about morbidity? Dr. Fauci — look at the totality of the cases: 75 % – 80% do well. 15 % – 25 % will need more care: these people are elderly and/or have chronic underlying conditions. HOWEVER — you’ll see a “one-off” once in a while. This happens with influenza once in a while. Questions: Any “variants” — a person gets the virus, recovers, and gets it again? Dr. Fauci — he believes this will not happen. Next — Taliban deal? POTUS — Everybody wanted this to happen. The Taliban wanted it to happen. We’ll see how it all works out. They have big incentives to make it work out. Time for our people to start coming home. Next — Similar measures in U.S. like there are going on in China? POTUS — Xi is working very hard in China. Starbucks open again, Apple back to production. Next — The woman who died: no evidence to link to travel. // restricting travel WITHIN the U.S.? — we’ll communicate what is decided. Next — closing the southern border since there are only 2 cases in Mexico? POTUS — we may have to consider closing all borders, are communicating with both neighbors. Next — trying to use John Bolton comments to bash POTUS. POTUS shuts it down
February 29, 2020: Ill-informed media and public anxiousness has led to a “run” to buy surgical masks. According to the US Surgeon General, the mask is a waste of effort (unless you are the sick person) and panic buying is creating shortages for hospital staff who really needs masks.
February 29, 2020: Patient with corona virus describes what to expect from a hospital visit. He is high risk because of a previous organ transplant. So far, he had to drink a ot of Gatorade but not as bad as anticipated.
(((( Update on the man above. As of March 8, 2020 he is completely recovered and did an interview on FOX))))
March 1, 2020: Though Trump said the threat to US citizens from Covid-19, claiming more than 2,800 lives to date globally, is very low, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), Nancy Messonnier, pointed out in a press conference on Tuesday that it is only a matter of when, not if, the coronavirus will start spreading more widely in the US. The CDC itself is facing criticism for slow testing protocols and not providing enough virus testing kits, resulting in very few tested cases in the US. However, the ongoing influenza and cold season make diagnosing the new coronavirus more difficult. https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/features/coronavirus-outbreak-responding-china-wuhan/
March 1, 2020: Dr Marc Siegel. Siegel praised the Trump administration’s personnel selection for its coronavirus task force, headed by Vice President Mike Pence. “The task force are really top players,” said Siegel, noting the task force’s inclusion Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Health’s (NIH) infectious disease. Fauci is “one of the top infectious disease experts in the country,” he noted. Siegel noted the coronavirus task force’s inclusion of CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield, a virologist, and Dr. Nancy Messonnier (Rod Rosenstein’s sister), an expert in vaccines. “They’ve been doing exactly what they’re supposed to be doing,” said Siegel of the Trump administration’s measures towards protecting Americans from the coronavirus. “[They are] restricting travel, isolating patients who are sick and, trying to cut down on contact. It’s a very hard thing to do when people are pouring in from all over the world.” https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2020/03/01/dr-marc-siegel-on-coronavirus-ive-never-seen-an-emerging-contagion-handled-better/
March 1, 2020:Stop buying masks! WSYR am radio, Paw Talk ~11:00 a.m. Sunday. Veterinarians pleading with people to stop buying masks. Animal surgeries may have to be scheduled according to how many masks they have on hand. They are having trouble getting the masks too.
March 7, 2020: Dan Diamond from Politico, the same writer from the same outlet who criticized Trump Admin for their early and unprecedented response to Wuhan Flu now claims the Trump Admin is late to respond. There have been many media reports which promote disinformation and reek of bias, but the Politico article from March 7, 2020 is an award winner in this category and blames the President for making the problem worse. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/07/trump-coronavirus-management-style-123465 Comparing and contrasting the articles from one reporter, Dan Diamond, at a single outlet like POlitico, has been noted example of media bias and disinformation promulgated by the media to harm the Trump Admin, rather than doing the job of reporting facts to the general public, see here the compare/contrast: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1236535783605121026.html
March 8, 2020: Sample of news media reports ~~ A little heavy on the panic.
March 9, 2020: Dan Purser and his wife were passengers aboard the Diamond Princess which was quarantined in Japan. In this video he talks about the process for he and his wife and gives first hand information on what to expect from the Coronavirus from someone who had it. Very informative:
The One Disinfecting Step You’re Probably Doing Wrong “To correctly disinfect a countertop, for example, the surface needs to be visibly wet for four minutes. That will probably take more wipes than you’re used to using while you clean. Sanitizing, on the other hand, only requires the surface to be visibly wet for ten seconds. In both cases, you should let the surface air dry.” https://www.bhg.com/news/disinfecting-mistakes/
Ingredients 1 TBSP rubbing alcohol 1/2 tsp vegetable glycerin (optional) 1/4 cup aloe vera gel 10 drops cinnamon essential oil 10 drops tea tree essential oil Distilled water (colloidal silver/ionic silver adds antibacterial power if available) other essential oils (just for scent) Instructions To make, mix aloe vera gel, optional glycerin, and rubbing alcohol in a small bowl. Add cinnamon essential oil and tea tree oil along with a drop or two of any other oils you want to add for scent. Lemongrass, orange, lavender, and peppermint are good choices. Mix well and add distilled water (or colloidal/ionic silver) to thin to desired consistency. Transfer into spray, squeeze or pump bottles. NOTES – Rule of thumb – the more alcohol – the higher potency.
Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, Jan 30, 2020 recomends, VERY HIGH levels of Vitamin C.Please read the whole article. At the bottom are references and recommended reading.
In summary:
What dosage? Vitamin C fights all types of viruses. Although the dose should truly be high, even a low supplemental amount of vitamin C saves lives. This is very important for those with low incomes and few treatment options. For example, in one well-controlled, randomized study, just 200 mg/day vitamin C given to the elderly resulted in improvement in respiratory symptoms in the most severely ill, hospitalized patients. And there were 80% fewer deaths in the vitamin C group. [7] …The sicker a person was, the more ascorbic acid they would tolerate orally without it causing diarrhea. In a person with an otherwise normal GI tract when they were well, would tolerate 5 to 15 grams of ascorbic acid orally in divided doses without diarrhea….. But to best build up our immune systems, we need to employ large, orthomolecular doses of several vital nutrients. The physicians on the Orthomolecular Medicine News Service review board specifically recommend at least 3,000 milligrams (or more) of vitamin C daily, in divided doses. Vitamin C empowers the immune system and can directly denature many viruses. It can be taken as ascorbic acid (which is sour like vinegar), either in capsules or as crystals dissolved in water or juice. It can also be taken as sodium ascorbate, which is non-acidic. To be most effective, it should be taken to bowel tolerance. This means taking high doses several (or many) times each day. See the references below for more information….
Magnesium: 400 mg daily (in citrate, malate, chelate, or chloride form)…..
Vitamin D3: 2,000 International Units daily. (Start with 5,000 IU/day for two weeks, then reduce to 2,000)…..
Zinc is a powerful antioxidant and is essential for many biochemical pathways. It has been shown to be effective in helping the body fight infections. [20,21] A recommended dose is 20-40 mg/day for adults….
Selenium:100 mcg (micrograms) daily…..
B-complex vitamins and vitamin A: A multivitamin tablet with each meal will supply these conveniently and economically….. Nutritional supplements are not just a good idea. For fighting viruses, they are absolutely essential
From a fellow Q-Treeper (sorry I did not keep the Id) I have added the studies verifying the claims.
A VERY over-simplified version of how viruses work, immune boosting, and what you can do NOW. This is esp helpful for at risk age groups, but good for everyone.
Those spikes you see on virus pics allow it to puncture your cell wall and use the inside of your cell for food. Immune boosters help strengthen your cell wall, among other things.
ELDERBERRY SYRUP – (Sambucus n.) Strengthens your cell walls, and is shown to bind to flu viruses, preventing them from invading cells and replicating.
ASTRAGALUS – Helps increase the bodies production of interferon, and, reduces water retention.
ECHINACEA p. – Provides inulin, which improves white cells ability to fight in part by increasing properdin, increases and activates white cells, signals the body to release interferon. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4058675/
VITAMIN C – Helps the red blood cells transport oxygen thru the body. Your lymphatic system runs along (mostly) the same paths that your blood vessels use. However, your lymph system doesn’t have a “pump” the way your blood vessels have your heart to move things along. Your lymphatic system helps with your blood system to drain out the debris from your dead cell walls, dead virus cell, and white cells, etc. Keeping your lymphatic system clear of debris is why you are told to drink lots of fluids when you get sick. That junk needs to be urinated out, to keep the lanes clear for more white cells to attack the virus. There are also simple excercises that “pump” your lymphatics. These are all online. If you catch a virus, there are more things to add that may help.
So, if you get sick: INCREASE YOUR IMMUNE BOOSTERS!!! like, every couple hours or so. Drink LOT of fluids
NETTLES – Anti-histamine, anti-inflammatory, and diuretic. Is helpful with drying up runny noses, too!
…Phenolic compounds could be defined as biologically active and herbal and have positive effects on health. The scientific researches are increased about the positive effect of phenolic compounds into coronary heart disease and high blood pressure, diabetes, cancer, inflammative, viral and parasitic disease, psychotic disorders…
For fever, Tylenol or Motrin. Some people don’t do fever control, as the higher temperatures help kill the virus, but I have seen seizures happen from this, so I think fever control is a good thing. Also, if your body is fight aches and fever, those are cells which can be helping fight the virus instead. Again, very over-simplified, but some steps you can be taking NOW, and some herbs you can look into to see what may work for you and yours.
We’ve started using those sanitizing wipes BOTH when we enter the store AND as we depart.
Sanitizer on table in garage next to door prior to entering house.
Bottle of moisturizer / lotion on counter in kitchen.
I’m using cheap bottles of 91% alcohol from Walmart with paper towels, bleachable white washcloths as wipes.
One doctor said to have anti-diarrheal, and don’t forget the kids. We picked some up.
Walmart’s Carson city today. OTC had a run. Most stuff still available. Equate brand may be gone, but name brands mostly available. Vitamins, pain meds, diarrhea, allergy, ointments, band aids. MANY HOLES AND GAPS on shelves. Both stores, zero isopropyl alcohol, hydrogen peroxide and sanitizer. Did notice huge holes in bar soap and body wash.
EM Smith has a blog post Prepper Cuisine where he shows how to make simple bread out of flour water & salt. He also has several other food type articles. His parents ran a restaurant. As E.M. put it. BUY NOW, you will use it and if you beat the rush the stores will have plenty of time to restock.
From the Doctor’s MOM ~ ~ ~ I saw my son today and he shared his insight about the virus with me. 1) wash your hands do not touch your face. 2) get a flu shot if you did not get one. 3) eat a good diet and get proper rest not to get run down 4)do not touch doorknobs keep environment clean 5)when you feel sick have a fever go to the doctor 6)no need to wear a face mask unless you are sick. My son is a research scientist works in the medical center in Ann Arbor has great experiences with viruses and has a PhD . This was his advice to me but he said each person needs to do what they think but much bad advice out there. Unless we find out more this was the advice. He said our medical teams are better our high gene is better and diet is better than China. He was upset how the media is scaring people.
The researchers found that solutions of 62-71% alcohol, 0.5% hydrogen peroxide, and 0.1% bleach were the most effective at disinfecting surfaces from the viruses. Solutions of 0.05-0.2% benzalkonium chloride and 0.02% chlorhexidine di-gluconate were NOT as effective at killing the virus on surfaces and preventing further spread of the infection.”
If you are older stay away from your grand kids! Larry L. suggested a 3 – 6 foot distance from other people, a pathologist suggests 6 to 9 feet.
Interesting items on survival times for various bugs on different surfaces and conditions.
War Room Pandemic is a weekday show, done by Steve Bannon, Jason Miller, and Raheem Kassan. They were on the story before anyone else and their guests are helpful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDBxESl_m1M
A New Kind of Warfare, a Bio-War, or Sudden Contagion:
The idea of a “Bio-Corridor” upon entry into the USA is being openly discussed within the halls of Congress. This is an entirely new way of thinking and we need time to wrap our heads around the idea. Our goods go through a Customs screening but systems need to be updated and adapted for medical risk. Recently, we’ve seen illegal immigrants bringing measles, smallpox, polio, tuberculosis into our country, diseases which were eradicated in the USA. A virus like COVID-19 is similar in in RO factor to Measles, but far more hazardous in risk to our citizens and economy. This makes LEGAL border adherence and a strict immigration policy mandatory…… just like those who came through Ellis Island long ago.
Health security has become national security and a globalist economy which only pursues short term profits has left us woefully unprepared. We can’t manufacture penicillin anymore nor Vitamin C. Our last aspirin factory left the USA in 2004. We have ONE factory which makes surgical masks and sterile disposable operating room kits. And did you know a Chinese manufacturer recalled 9 million surgical kits exported to the USA………. because they were contaminated.
With President Trump, we rebuilt a depleted military to fight conventional wars. We also turned our attention to the new war for the 21st century, the cyber war. Our enemies, specifically China, don’t need to devote billions to R&D and testing when they can merely steal our weapons systems for pennies on the dollar. Yet, how do we prepare for this war, the bio-war? Our supply chain and food supply must change. The USA is an MEGA exporter of Agri-products, BECAUSE our procedures and safety protocols are the best. We need country of origin labels on our food. Our ability to manufacture medicines must change. And China’s balance sheet and CCP subsidies must be dealt with, severely.
Here’s how the problem was created: Since China joined the WTO, they have successfully targeted entire industries to become the manufacturer to the world. In the USA, the “west”, and even India, companies operate on a profit/loss statement. They have to make money, otherwise, they go out of business. To gain dominance, China offers subsidies to their industries in the form of free energy, free water, capitol to build a factory, free land, or the most common way…. rolling of their bank loans. Remember, a rolling bank loan carries no loss. With this amount of subsidy, no private company in the USA/Belgium/ or India or Canada could possibly compete….. which is why Wall Street sent our factories to China.
Most economists believe China is carrying about 40-45 trillion in debt, about 3.5x’s their annual GDP, an amount equal to the USA having an 88 trillion dollar debt load. Everything ticks along nicely in China as long as the debt never comes due……….. With COVID-19, the debt is coming due. President Trump must balance the contagion threat to our citizens while trying to make sure China ‘s economy does not collapse.
The potential for the healthcare system to be overwhelmed is very real. If our hospitals are overwhelmed how many will die from unrelated conditions because they can’t get access to healthcare? How many will die because of shortages of medication? The limited availability of beds in Wuhan raised their mortality rate from 0.16% to 4.9% This is why the Chinese government built a hospital in a week. Are our governments capable of doing the same? The virus is not the main danger, our unprepared medical system and fragile supply chains are. How many people are going to be prevented from going to work because of quarantine? The FDA this morning reported the first Drug Shortage in the US caused by the coronavirus.
Problem with Different Political Systems and Sanitation/Hygiene in Other Countries
As I watched my neighbor put her dog’s poop in a single-use plastic baggy, I thought about split pants in China. When my wife and I got off the plane, 18 years ago, to adopt our first daughter, we were taken aback by the split pants. Split pants are (or at least were, back then) pants the children wear that are open in the crotch area. That allows them to urinate or defecate unobstructed, onto the street or wherever they may be. The theory is that eventually they will learn to “aim it at the toilet” or something to that effect.
Either way, I distinctly remember my brand new Nike slip-ons (probably made not far from where I was standing) sloshing into a mix of urine and who knows what else, and continuing to do so for the next three weeks. As I started feeling the cough coming on, I remember one of the women in our group saying, at one of the airports (as she too, stepped into urine) “The people in this country probably have built up antibodies inside them our bodies have never even thought about.”
I replayed that line in my head for the next three weeks, as I descended into night sweats, fevers and a cough like I’ve never experienced.
. . . Then, my wife and I had to rush our newly adopted, 8-month-old daughter to the public hospital…and suddenly it all started making sense. As we stepped in more urine, took our number from the print-out machine, walked past the line of children whining and crying from the scalp IVs in their heads, then rushed to clean up blood and mucus (left by the last patient) on the plastic table they were now laying our baby on, then waited on the ONE overworked doctor (attending to no less than three hundred people) try to round up a basic anti-biotic to administer to my daughter (right there on site – no refills) it dawned on me what I was seeing and what I had been seeing this whole time. . .
I was witnessing the kind of maximum, almost brutal efficiency a society must develop when the state is the master and the individual is merely a subject. Why would a Communist country not have an effective FDA? Because who are you going to complain to if you get tainted food? The government? They don’t answer to you. The press? They are owned by the government. And again, they don’t answer to you.
. . . “Yes, communism is bad, Regie. We get it,” I hear you saying, through your screen. But it is much deeper than surface ideology for me, personally. As our group was sloshing through the stuff on our shoes, we all speculated as to what new viruses we might be bringing back to the States with us. Well, even during SARS, none of us brought any viruses back. But my family did bring back one of the rarest genetic disorders on planet earth. . .
What we know, without a doubt, is that she would not have survived had she not gotten out of China; out of that system. . . . As this virus is doing whatever it’s doing, we are also having a heated debate over our own politics as a nation. We are literally discussing the merits of “democratic socialism” in the context of a Presidential election, in the United States, in 2020. I don’t think this is an accident.
. . .The thing about free-market solutions when it comes to healthcare, is that if they don’t work, you can always trash them and go to a public option. But once you nationalize healthcare, there is no going back. And that terrifies me. I’ve seen the natural conclusion of what happens when only one buyer is purchasing gauze and morphine; when one source pays the doctors and nurses.
. . . I’ve seen what happens when the choices are taken away. And what happens ends up being a place where new viruses can spread too easily, to too many people, and aren’t contained quickly enough.
February 22, 2020: From Bloomberg. Coronavirus isn’t just about a short term supply chain problem. It exposes the weakness of globalism. Globalization Comes Under Fire Amid Xivirus Stress Test – “Do we..still depend at the level of 90/95% of the supply chain of China for the auto,drug,aero.. industry, or do we draw the consequences of that situation to ..be more independent & sovereign? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-22/globalization-comes-under-fire-amid-coronavirus-stress-test
February 29, 2020: Comment ~~~~ Let’s make no mistake, the XIvirus started in China by at least mid-November of 2019. China’s CCP jailed physicians who tried to warn of the danger of the virus. The CCP has consistently covered up statistics, refused to allow entry to Wuhan for international medical teams, AND censored all their citizens from discussing the virus on-line.
Thousands of people are dead, hundreds of millions are under some kind of quarantine, and trillions of dollars LOST, because CHINA lied and hid the truth from the world. To blame the President of the USA for OVER-reacting in late January when he assembled the task force, declared the health emergency, cancelled flights, imposed mandatory quarantine of 14 days on Chinese citizens from entry to the USA, and imposed self-quarantine of 14 days on those who traveled to China, was a hyper-partisan attack by Democrats seeking political gain in the midst of a medical crisis.
Those same Democrats now attack the President for not doing enough, which is absurd, and the media is intentionally pushing panic to wreck the economic gains of the Trump Admin. It’s the very definition of a malicious press which does not serve the best interests of the public.
I’m left wondering WHY the media is not blaming XI and the CCP for the global problem of Coronavirus. If we need to point a finger……. point the finger at XI. It’s China who created this problem. The corrupt CCP used to only be a problem for the Chinese people. Today, the inept CCP has created a problem for the entire world.
PDJT will be speaking at CPAC at 10:00am Eastern Time. Here is a link for live streaming CPAC speeches if you’re interested. H/t Nebraska Filly.
https://time.com/5169644/cpac-livestream-watch/
There has been much consternation about the timing of the President’s speech. Apparently there was a big meeting at the White House today about CVirus. President is giving a presser this afternoon at 1:30pm Eastern.
I will be having a 1:30 P.M. Press Conference at the White House to discuss the latest CoronaVirus developments. Thank you!
Gosh, a week ago we were in Vegas together. Steve is still cleaning up from the mess we made at his house in Colorado Springs, and we’ve been around the world since then. Yet, we’re on this Trump/Wolfie roller coaster together. Please …….hold onto the bar.
NORTH CHARLESTON, S.C. (WCIV) – President Donald Trump will host a Keep America Great Rally on Friday, February 28, at 7 p.m. at the North Charleston Coliseum in North Charleston, his reelection campaign announced Thursday.
We can almost smell the South Carolina BBQ and Momma’s Sunday chicken from here. We’re headed into the land of exceptional hospitality, outstanding college football, southern grace, honorable men, gorgeous women, ceiling fans, wide porches, and blooming azaleas, …….. we’re headed to LOW COUNTRY.
Come on in and get situated.
We’re so glad you finally made it to Charleston, and glad you’re staying for the weekend. There is so much to do here!!!!!!!
Charleston is a bit of a geographic challenge, so many bridges it will remind you of Amsterdam. The town sits at the southern tip of the Cooper River and the Atlantic. Thus, water surrounds the town and beautiful beaches are found everywhere we turn. A major hurricane hit on Charleston would be a disaster.
With water everywhere, several rivers converging, and an Atlantic Port, we can easily understand why Charleston played a primary role throughout our nation’s history. From the first shots of the Civil War fired on Ft. Sumpter……
To the present day MAJOR cargo terminal and US NAVY Port, which Charleston has become.
With the constant hussle and bussle of business activity in Charleston (South Carolina has the lowest unemployment in the country at 2.3%), it’s hard to imagine the graceful, slow, southern lifestyle which Charleston offers. Yet, Charleston is low country, hot, humid, and sticky. No one would survive in a navy blue suit during the month of August….. so things are a little more casual. But the downtown, historic, and financial centers are beautiful, especially when the azaleas bloom in the spring.
In “North Charleston” (which is really west of the city, but it’s up river, therefore NORTH), where President Trump’s rally will be held, the median age is 33yrs old and median home cost is $131K. The burbs of Charleston are affordable, young, hip, yet still close to great museums, art, beaches, and airports.
Come hungry!! The food in Charleston is a perfect cross section. It’s east coast, meets New Orleans love of seafood, meets wild Asian influence, with a healthy portion of Southern Mommas fried chicken or Uncle Fred’s BBQ. Thus, Charleston is a perennial favorite of the Food Network.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hG_HQUg4Uw
Trumpers are getting ready in Charleston:
Folks are already setting up for President Trump’s rally tomorrow. The North Charleston Coliseum parking lot opened at 7 a.m. @Live5Newspic.twitter.com/U7zHvwk5gF
Apparently, our little Coronavirus thread, and updated threads, are MILES ahead of the politicians and pundits on MSM (Sure wish we received classified briefings though, can you put in a word for us, Wolfie?) AND, I’ve found, publishing OUR link, along with a message of “We’ve been working on this issue since January. Here are 100’s of links, videos, sources, and hints. Be informed, not fearful”……… shuts down all political opposition. It’s truly stunning how ill-informed the media is on the subject (or they are intentionally misleading the public). The amount of DISINFO presents a hazard.
Nonetheless, our little thread has tremendous value, both as real information for those who are new to the subject or genuinely worried, AND for those who using the virus as a political weapon. I shared our thread today across social media. In the last 7 hours, I’ve received at least 2 dozen private messages of thanks and hundreds of short messages……. people feel better when they have information in their hands. Let’s give them information.
The current thread expires at the end of the month and I’m putting together a new one for the first week of March. Thinking we will update once a week until crisis subsides. Good idea or no?
Please, I need your contributions. Please post here, anything you have. I’ll be happy to sort it out over a long weekend and add to an updated thread. Please include a source/link, where you can and pretty please, DATE the source. I figured out a little too late that dates create a huge problem. For instance, I might type a brief sentence and say “yesterday, Laura Ingraham show”. Well, several days later, I have no idea WHICH day was “yesterday”. See what I mean?
Miss Gail Combs, I was wondering, nudge, nudge, if you could find some spare time, to provide us with a similar update like you did last time. If you can’t get it in by Sunday, I can always edit the post and add it later. Would be most appreciative. Where is Smiley2? I need you, and Aubergine, and the chemist guys, and info about air travel from FG&C, and Bakocarl’s tidbits, and everyone.
People are afraid when they don’t know what they’re dealing with, and we have reams of information. You guys pull items from Chiefio, foreign sources, etc. We always joked that QTree was an amazing collection of expertise, and we’re proving it now, when it counts. We’re fortunate to have different people with varying skill sets (medical- econ- VALUABLE hints from our grandparents- herbal medicine- Heloise-type-hints on how to keep a clean home/office) to add to the post. And it’s the only way to examine the whole problem.
Unless someone has a better idea (and heaven knows, I’m always open to a better idea), we’re going to divide the post into the following categories. If you think we need another category, let me know. This has become, very much, a group project:
The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world.
Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
China Responses
Aggregated responses from other countries (I’m going to tear this one apart)
Welcome to Friday’s OPEN THREAD at the QTree! It’s the weekend and time to crack open a beer and put some steaks on the grill! Thank you for the Thursday hand-off TrumpIsMine. Thank you to Wolfie for keeping us all organized, up and running. What would we do without FLEP’s News Roundup to keep up? Thank you, Flep. Hat tip and a hearty thank you to Wheatie, Dep, BakoCarl, Michael, all contributors and the lurkers!
We don’t believe in political correctness at QTree. Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it. This board will remain a REFUGE for those who need civility, either some or all of the time. Important Guidelines are outlined here in the January 1st open thread, with an addendum on 20191110. In other words, please keep it SOMEWHAT civil. We have a new board – actually a new SITE – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.
What a week we’ve had. We’ve gone from India, with images of hundreds of thousands of Indian citizens gleefully welcoming our President, FLOTUS, and delegation in grand fashion……. and in a small overlooked news item, Sec Wilbur Ross traveled on to Pakistan. Hmmmmm! The President came home with a 3 billion dollar military sale but did not buckle on a larger trade deal. Good. The USA is in a winning position and he won’t sign unless it’s good for American citizens. We want “Reciprocity”.
When the President returned home, he was greeted by news of massive selloffs in the stock market and a media intent on causing a panic over Coronavirus. News out of Italy/Iran and South Korea sparked concerns over the virus spreading. In South Korea, we learned over 800K people signed a petition calling for the impeachment of President Moon, because he did not act fast enough to close the borders to Chinese travelers, …..which makes Trump’s decision to close travel to those from China, a month ago, quite wise. THUS, Italy’s politicians and other country’s leaders reacted severely to any threat of the virus….. which made the media salivate. The President addressed the nation on Wednesday night.
The reaction in the media reminds me of an anecdote I learned long ago, told to me by a seasoned fund manager. He said, “I could hire anyone to work for me…… When everything is going well, it wouldn’t matter if I hired people straight out of the phone book, but the reason I hire the best in the business, seek them out and pay them more, is because there will be a problem/disaster/catastrophe in the next ten years. During that moment of crisis, decisions made by savvy and calm employees will be all that stands between me and the sharks.”
It’s why we hired Donald Trump as President, for a moment such as…. Coronavirus.
In other news, well out of the headlines, the President’s Judicial Armada plugs along, the Border Wall continues adding mileage, and the Trump Admin won big in the Appeals Court for a ruling on restricting block grants to Sanctuary Cities. Promises made, promises kept, the list of accomplishments continues.
President Donald Trump arrives to speak at the Pennsylvania Farm Show Complex and Expo Center in Harrisburg, Pa., Saturday, April 29, 2017, on the 100th day of his presidency. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)
The Dems are annihilating each other in their debates and on the campaign trail. We’ve had fun watching the implosion on several Dem Debate Threads and the forecast for next week is “100% chance of continued amusement”.
Tonight, the President travels to South Carolina, for a rally before South Carolina Primary. I’ve already started marinating the ribs for the grill. We can sip tea, or share a few Mint Juleps, comfortable with our Stable Genius, while the Dems muddy themselves in the gutter. Full Debate Thread will go up after midnight. Surely, there are already people in line. Ya’ll can come visit me at the B&B while we’re in South Carolina.
No, this is not my house, but a “cousin” B&B in Charleston.
Make sure you rest up over the weekend because we have another rally in North Carolina on Monday night, ahead of the Super Tuesday primary. It is election season.
“Our movement is about replacing a failed and corrupt political establishment with a new government controlled by you, the American People.” Candidate Donald J Trump
Remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
If you’re up past midnight, take a walk outside and look at the Moon and Venus “kiss” each other. Kind of cool.
January 29, 2020: Peter Navarro tasked with unique task. Peter Navarro on Tucker, WH Coronavirus Plan is 4 part strategy being executed on TRUMP TIME
1- HHS has RFP tomorrow for personal protective equipment, includes 1/2 Billion Masks, gloves, suits
2- 3 Treatment options, 1-remdesivir IV drug in clinical trials, trying to secure dosage 2-Develop oral antivirals in rapid time 3-monoclonal antibodies to help build up immune system
3-vaccine development in 1/2 time
4-point of care diagnostics, adapting handheld devices to be able to do field diagnostics
January 30, 2020: Trump Admin assembled a unified task force across all agencies to coordinate all response efforts across the totality of government. Official.
January 30, 2020: Trump signs proclamation, using Presidential authority pursuant to Section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act, temporarily suspending the entry into the United States of foreign nationals. Restrictions were first to limit people traveling from Wuhan, 14 days MANDATORY quarantine. Then advanced to include all travelers from China, 14 days self-quarantine. All foreign national who traveled within China in the prior 14 days, were denied entry.
January 30, 2020: HHS Secretary Alex Azar declared a nationwide public health emergency.
February 2, 2020: Effort took a few days to implement, taking effect, formally on February 2. President Trump; and in accordance with the declaration, at 5:00 p.m. EST; Sunday, February 2nd, the U.S government implemented temporary measures to increase detection & containment of the coronavirus proactively. Effective February 2nd.
February 25-26th: President requests 2.5 billion to fight Coronavirus, including developing a vaccine. Schumer/Pelosi criticize the President for acting too slowly, when they criticized him for over-reacting a month ago. Schumer insists the President has NO PLAN, but insists the President needs more money, proposes 8.5 billion dollars. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/feb/25/schumer-trump-spar-over-incompetence-coronavirus-f/
February 26, 2020: Chelsea Clinton is rolled out, writing articles, criticizing the Trump Administration for Coronavirus response, media using the virus as a weapon to tank the market. Using it as a weapon to harm the President’s political aspirations for 2020 reelection. Disgusting.
David Wright, Senior Correspondent, magna cum laude at Harvard, additional degree from Oxford, has been suspended by ABC. In video, Wright freely admits he’s a socialist, does not hold Trump to account, nor does he give Trump credit when due. He agrees, his network is only interested in three main things, 1) The outrage of the day, 2) the “investigation”, and 3) the palace intrigue of who is stabbing someone else in the back.
Andy Fies, long time ABC News Producer, is also on video, admitting New Yorkers don’t understand how anyone could like Trump……. and they probably need to cross the fu&&ing Hudson and figure out why.
Quite an interesting 7 minute video.
The Washington Post reported on the “sting” done by Project Veritas, and the Post article was picked up by MSN, found here. Watch this……
“I don’t think we’re terribly interested in voters,” he said, echoing gripes about the superficiality of some aspects of White House and campaign coverage that have been raised by journalists for decades. Also: “Commercial imperative is incompatible with news.”
Okay, from the same article, now look at this part:
Although O’Keefe has defended the organization’s methods as journalistically sound, mainstream news organizations have largely abandoned the practice of infiltrating businesses or organizations to record video without a subject’s knowledge or consent. News organizations generally consider the practice deceptive, and doing so can subject them to criminal trespass penalties.
What? I’m old enough to remember 60 minutes doing undercover videos and trespassing all over businesses and bureaucrats. When did it become “untoward”?
Discussion welcome. Can’t wait to see what you guys think. Here, we have a Police Officer who arrested a 6yr old girl in school. She threw a tantrum, kicked and screamed. Officer picked her up from school (obviously someone at school called the police), charged her with misdemeanor battery, fingerprinted the little girl at the police station, before the state atty said she would drop the charges and let her go into Grandma’s custody. Of course, Grandma is mad and will probably sue the police department. Officer also arrested another 6yr old boy. The Officer was fired for not getting the approval of Watch Commander for arresting a child under age 12. What happened to common sense? Why is all this activity necessary? Is it because we turned over the job of parenting our children to the state? Cuz………., that’s what I’m seeing.
Personally, I see this as a waste of Police Officer’s time, coupled with a new and alien phase of teachers who are afraid to discipline students in a classroom. AND bad parents. BUT, let’s stop and think about it. Who really knows what goes on behind closed doors and the struggles therein? Are we judging without knowing? Probably.
Here’s the other side of the story. I confess. I had a stepson who decided he wanted to run away from home. He was about 8yrs old at the time, trying to bluff me, and I knew it. I said, “Okay, fine. Your father and I will miss you but we understand how you feel……”, which left him quite confused. I can’t even remember why he was mad, but I helped him pack up his little Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle suitcase he used to take to grandma’s when he spent the night. I shook his hand goodbye at the back door. Gheez, he was a stubborn kid.
He took off across the parking lot at the school next door, walking real slow and dragging his feet. He kept looking over his shoulder, waiting for me to capitulate and come after him. I didn’t move – I was committed, but I could still see him. About 10 minutes into the event but with stepson still in eyesight, Grady drove up, local police officer. He stopped to say hello every time I was watering my flowers. I told him about my problem with stepson and told Grady to go and arrest him. Grady was surprised at first. Yet, it was a Sunday afternoon, he wasn’t busy in our little township, and with a sly grin, he understood my dilemma, completely. Grady wheeled his car around, turned on the blue lights, and went to “arrest” my stepson. No handcuffs, we agreed.
Within 5 minutes, I met them both at the police station, which is also in eyesight of our house. Stepson knew he was in BIG trouble. Never had another problem…… Don’t ever bluff a Momma. Of course, we teased my stepson about “the time he ran away” with great regularity over the years, but that boy always pushed my limits.
Flash forward, stepson about age 14-15.
He had a girlfriend in a neighboring county who was a superb young woman. We encouraged their dating even though the distance was a problem, and neither kid could drive. On a Saturday night, I took off from home about 11:00pm, and went to pick him up from a “date”….. quiet and dark roads. No traffic at all. We struck up a conversation on the way home. I asked him about his date. He had fun, but something was off. We rode for a while in silence, and then he blurted out his problem. His best buddy, Jeremy, had run away from home. “What?”, I said, and my back stiffened.
Jeremy was like my own kid. Jeremy’s mother was a dear friend to me, owned a successful biz around the corner from our house. The boys had been best friends since cub scouts. When Jeremy had problems with step-dad, he lived with us for months on end – which really wasn’t all that different because he was at our house all the time anyway. But this time Jeremy had run away for real.
Jeremy had called my step-son, during his date, and Jeremy was afraid, calling out for help, but unwilling to call his mother. Stepson was giving me details, fast and furious, but in no particular order, and I was trying to keep up with the story. My stepson was visibly upset. Jeremy was still stubborn and “in over his head”. I asked my stepson “WHY” was Jeremy afraid? Within a nano-second, “Where is Jeremy?” I was wide awake, and readjusting in my seat by then…. The answer came, “Well, Jeremy has been living in a hay barn, just south of St Louis.” Me, at lightning speed by then, “Almost 300 miles away!!??” From stepson, “Yeah, but the local farmer discovered he was living there and threw him off the property.” “What?” Stepson was sad, he missed his friend, but understood the problems. “What????” “A hay barn????”, at that point, I think my stepson was wondering if he made a mistake by telling me. I could tell my stepson was having a difficult time with this, and I stopped, backed up, calmed down, asap. I was trying to wrap my head around the idea of Jeremy in a hay barn. I rubbed his shoulder and said, “Honey, it’s going to be close to 30 degrees tonight, cold outside and even colder in Missouri. What the heck was he thinking?” “I don’t know, mom”, said my stepson.
Silence for a few minutes. My brain was running at full tilt. There was no possible way, no possible ulterior motive or condition which existed, where I could leave Jeremy alone. No, no way….. no matter what the repercussions. No.
We turned onto the interstate for our last leg of the trip home to our house, and I turned north, instead of south. “What are you doing, mom?” “We’re going to get Jeremy…….”, I said. Objections, loud objections, “Mom, you can’t interfere” From me, “The hell I can’t!”
I called Tina, my friend and Jeremy’s mom, and woke her up. She explained the situation. Jeremy was a brilliant, rich, and stubborn young man…. which I already knew. And she told him to call her when he was ready, but he was defiant. He was unwilling to call, to capitulate, and it was killing her, but she had made her stand and her husband was a bigger part of the problem, throwing gas on the fire. I told her I was going to get him and they could work it out later. She was actually relieved. Then, I called my husband. He insisted on coming with us, but I refused to come home and pick him up. He didn’t have the personality for what lay ahead. He was furious, but he was a strong man and intimidating. This….. this needed a lighter touch.
My stepson called Jeremy, told him we were coming, and they talked back and forth several times…. to arrange where to meet. And off we went to St Louis….. in the middle of the night, fog rolling low of over the pastures, almost no traffic save the friendly semi-trucks, ….. we made great time. We met Jeremy that night under an interstate bridge. I’ll never forget it. He didn’t want to be close to a gas station or attract any attention. He was only wearing a light jacket and had been gone for over 6 weeks. I thought to myself, “guilt”, how the heck could Jeremy be missing for 6 weeks and me not know about it? Surreal.
We got out of the car, Jeremy not quite knowing what to expect. I threw my arms round that kid, so happy to see him, alive and unharmed. No yelling, just grateful he was okay. Within 15 seconds he was sobbing into my shoulder. His parents were multi-millionaires. Jeremy had every advantage and yet, he was a miserable kid just trying to find his way. Amazing how an argument can start as nothing and blossom into a catastrophe. But at 3:00am a Waffle House can cure what ails almost anyone. Those boys were so hungry.
Both boys fell asleep on the way home. They were almost grown men but huddled together in the back of the blue-bomb mini-van, sharing Grandma Della’s homemade afghan, like they used to do when they were little cub scouts. I rode in silence, deeply humbled and relieved. There but for the grace of God, go I. I thought about Tina and what she was going through. I thought about how I would react if my stepson was 300 miles away, living in a barn, and cold. It made me react physically. I was shaking and white knuckled, gripping the steering wheel. The thought of what could have happened scared the heck out of me. Sigh…..
Gosh, I do admire an independent streak in a young man, it means they have spirit, which is the best thing we could ever give to a child. Certainly, I raised Gunner to be incredibly independent, and at times, wow, I have learned to regret it……..
I’ll admit, as a mom, whenever my husband would try to hover over the kids and limit activities, I would argue for independence, allowing them plenty of rope to test limits. In a small town, we could always rescue them if one got into too much trouble. My standard line was, “You know, if it was 200 yrs ago, by age 16, those boys would have a wife, maybe a child on the way, and 200 acres to farm.” and then turn to the child, “Of course I trust you, …..dear” ….. which was the kiss of death and meant they couldn’t screw up. It made them responsible adults. Normally, it worked.
Sometimes though, our terrific young men, they just need a little help, a little bit of space, neutral ground, and a 3:00am Waffle House run in Missouri.
By the time we reached Memphis, the sun was up and my husband was calling, anxious, making the boys even more apprehensive. Yet, he was legitimately worried about all of us. We arrived at home and he was waiting in the driveway. My first husband had the ability to LOOK at those boys, and they would immediately start crying. The boys were nervous and didn’t know what to expect from him. Slowly, they unfolded their stiff bodies from the mini-van. Were they in trouble? Going to be torn apart? Yet, I have to give my ex-husband credit. He handled it perfectly….. hugged them both hard, for a long time. He told them to get some sleep, take a shower, and everything would be okay.
And it was.
Only a man can understand an adolescent male, and the innate natural desire for a young man to stake a claim, stand for something – even if it’s wrong when they’re teenagers. It’s something a mom can’t do no matter how hard we try. It takes both parents to raise a young man. Sure, a lighter touch from mom is often needed because young men go from an eight-year-old, to 40-year-old, and back to a 12-year-old, in the same conversation. A stern look from Dad, which can make a child crumble, is definitely necessary but comes in handy. Above all, a little bit of silence, no quick judgement, and plenty of long hard hugs make everything better, no matter how old they are.
When Jeremy returned to school, he was quite the legend. The stories of his nights “on the lamb” and our midnight run to Missouri grew like exaggerated “fish stories” as the years passed. He was a handsome young fellow and the girls swooned around him. I rolled my eyes. He was the consummate bad boy. But a strange thing happened along the way….. Thankfully, my legend grew a little bit as well because it was part of Jeremy’s story. It went like this: “Because, No matter where you are, Miss Daughn will come and find you.” It was strange and liberating for the kids. It meant they had a sense of security, to step off of base…. The kids never did anything really bad, no gun-running or drug-dealing, but they had a feeling if they ever really got into trouble, they could call Miss D, and magically, I could fix it. In a weird way, it gave them more independence. Over the next dozen years, there were many phone calls, but nothing too severe.
As my own son, Gunner, grew up, he had thousands of miles of rope to test his independence. We kept thinking he would screw up, mildly, a little bit, and waited for it. Nothing. Straight as an arrow, that kid, …… until one time, he called me at midnight from his dorm. He was quite upset, ranting and raving. I tried to calm him down to no avail. He cried and sobbed, inconsolably. After an hour, he hung up on me.
What? My son had never hung up on me. What was going on? I woke Big T up and he was concerned as well. It was unlike Gunner. Big T was pacing the floor and suggested we drive down to his college. I nodded, but thought I should go alone, again, over his objections….. softer touch, save the big guns for when we need them. I couldn’t sleep anyway, took a shower, and started driving. I woke Gunner up, in his dorm, at 5:00am. “Mom, what are you doing here?”, he said, embarrassed. I looked at him and squinted, “Because no matter where you are, I will FIND you.” and then, “You want to tell me what’s going on?” It was hormones, over-reaction, thinking too much and caring what other people think too much. He was lonesome and had lost perspective. I took him to the grocery store and restocked his little fridge. He was fine……………
We went to Waffle House for breakfast.
And I let the rope out again…………
Kids are tough, and take all of our effort, but being a mom is the best job I’ve ever had. Why would any parent trust the bureaucracy with such an important job?
