“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
Joe Biden never won. This is our Real President – 45, 46, 47.
AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.
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Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.
Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.
We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.
Joe Biden didn’t win.
And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.
Wolfie’s Wheatie’s Word of the Week:
osteoid
adjective
bony
bone-like
resembling bone
of, pertaining to, or characteristic of bone
Used in a sentence
Osteoid osteoma is a benign osteoblastic tumor that was first described in 1930 by Bergstrand.
Shown in a picture (osteoid histopathology)
Used in a company name in a video
MUSIC!
A really nice version of a song that I enjoyed back in the day.
THE STUFF
This is a painful confrontation of an Irish PalPal with facts about Islam. I would say “enjoy”, except it’s literally painful to watch.
And then there is this comment on the page…..
I’m a Christian born in a Muslim country. My family migrated to the west when I was 9 years old, we did not want leave but we knew ultimately that one day we would be either killed or kicked out so we decided to leave before that happened. A few years later, the Islamic terrorists started bombing churches. They kidnapped my mums cousin who is a priest. Tortured him for days, pulled his teeth out and eventually by GODs grace he was let go. I met a man whose son was killed in a church that was attacked by Islamic terrorists. This man lives with so much pain every day. He remembers his son every single day. His wife and daughter were almost killed too but his son heroically covered them with his body when the terrorists tried to kill them. Thank GOD they were miraculously spared. My mums brother who’s an engineer was kidnapped twice by terrorists and asked for a large sum of money for his life. Mum was living a nightmare. She couldn’t sleep or eat. I was young and didn’t understand what had happened. Later on I was told. You know the horror and terror we live under everyday just because we are Christian trying to survive in a Muslim country. This young lady doesn’t understand anything. Islam is a problem. It’s a death cult. Please read the quran, the life of Muhammad and the hadiths. They are shocking to say the least. I pray and hope that people like her wake up. Because before you know it, you will find yourself living under Sharia law. Thank you for bringing this to people’s attention. I pray they listen.
This man, making Christmas calls from the White House, believes the world is a sphere. And he has even flown around it! So has our beautiful FLOTUS, who happens to be his wife!
Truth and common sense must be valued by us, as individuals, in order to lastingly disempower the authoritarian fake news media. This includes the perniciously smarmy science media, which never answers for its errors and lies. I believe that the media has been responsible not only for leftist pathologies like scientism, medical fascism, and radical gender ideology, but also for reactionary movements like modern flat Earth, rejection of all medicine, and Biblical geological literalism.
Just as Wheatie’s Stormwatch Monday Open Thread was created as a place for people to openly express their thoughts and opinions, so, too, is this Thank God Thursday Open Thread, where honest but civil discussion of all topics is encouraged. This thread is also to be known as Theistic Evolution Thursdays, due to the author’s expected “pontification” about his scientific, religious, and political opinions. You are welcome to pontificate back! Free speech matters!
Please label all AI-generated content as being such, unless it is patently obvious (e.g., humorous AI images). It is important that we as individuals not begin to pretend that socially derived artificial intelligence is actually our own, as this form of stealthy social information averaging and feedback would be one more pretense and deception between people, in service of stupid Marxist socialism, and of those who wish to substitute their communally protected lies for actual truth.
The source of alleged truth matters, not for the truth itself, but for validation.
And yes, it’s THURSDAY…again.
And that’s it. We’re done stealing from Wheatie.
OK – maybe her rules need to be posted.
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Other rules may be derivable from these, and that conjecture is left for discussion.
If there is nothing beyond the “W” below, then this is a placeholder. For health reasons, I can’t always post a timely opinion before each Thursday, but I will try. Otherwise, you have this placeholder post, where YOU provide the content. Enjoy!
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Just gonna throw out some goodies.
(1) I forgot all about this Matrix stuff. Kinda fun.
(2) You think Stalin was bad? He was worse! Way worse!
Obama’s mentor’s mentor! Do things make sense now?
(3) OH NOES – Ancient Humanoids Just Got Even More Complicated!
(WARNING – 41 min EXTREME geek-out scientific paper reviews!)
Is it a mess? YES – and real science admits that it’s a mess, and the mess is evolving, too! But things ARE getting sorted out.
Frankly, I wish we would have had these kinds of science discussions online when I was in school, instead of sending letters by pony express, or using scrolls and clay tablets!
(4) I love this song – in case you haven’t seen it.
AI humor had me cheering, and AI country had me tapping my foot. Not gonna lie!
(5) What links AI, atom bombs, card decks, chemical reactions, search engines, and the very concepts of independence and free will?
Joe Biden never won. This is our Real President – 45, 46, 47.
AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.
This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).
This man, making Christmas calls from the White House, believes the world is a sphere. And he has even flown around it! So has our beautiful FLOTUS, who happens to be his wife!
Truth and common sense must be valued by us, as individuals, in order to lastingly disempower the authoritarian fake news media. This includes the perniciously smarmy science media, which never answers for its errors and lies. I believe that the media has been responsible not only for leftist pathologies like scientism, medical fascism, and radical gender ideology, but also for reactionary movements like modern flat Earth, rejection of all medicine, and Biblical geological literalism.
Just as Wheatie’s Stormwatch Monday Open Thread was created as a place for people to openly express their thoughts and opinions, so, too, is this Thank God Thursday Open Thread, where honest but civil discussion of all topics is encouraged. This thread is also to be known as Theistic Evolution Thursdays, due to the author’s expected “pontification” about his scientific, religious, and political opinions. You are welcome to pontificate back! Free speech matters!
Please label all AI-generated content as being such, unless it is patently obvious (e.g., humorous AI images). It is important that we as individuals not begin to pretend that socially derived artificial intelligence is actually our own, as this form of stealthy social information averaging and feedback would be one more pretense and deception between people, in service of stupid Marxist socialism, and of those who wish to substitute their communally protected lies for actual truth.
The source of alleged truth matters, not for the truth itself, but for validation.
And yes, it’s THURSDAY…again.
And that’s it. We’re done stealing from Wheatie.
OK – maybe her rules need to be posted.
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Other rules may be derivable from these, and that conjecture is left for discussion.
If there is nothing beyond the “W” below, then this is a placeholder. For health reasons, I can’t always post a timely opinion before each Thursday, but I will try. Otherwise, you have this placeholder post, where YOU provide the content. Enjoy!
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Sundance Figures Out Some Excellent Stuff
There is a CTH article recently that I just finally read, and it synced up and connected a LOT of different loose ends for me.
I’m going to urge you to read it, and then I’m going to explain why I think this is so important.
I will include the first half of Sundance’s article, for those who don’t want to visit the site. I think this is VERY important stuff, and worth a read, even for those who won’t go to his site.
Former House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes appears on OAN with former Congressman Matt Gaetz to discuss the information released by Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard.
As noted by Nunes, why did it take this long for the information to surface? That question showcases how corrupt the DC system -the Intelligence Community- is in its effort to protect itself from accountability.
Nunes also points to the raid on Mar-a-Lago as a possible entry point for investigative accountability. WATCH:
Let me refresh on something that could potentially be a revelation down the road.
In 2022 a Florida judge dismissed a lawsuit brought by President Trump against Hillary Clinton. [65-page Ruling Here] The media enjoyed ridiculing Trump using the words of the judge who dismissed the case. As noted by the Washington Times, “Judge Donald M. Middlebrooks, a Clinton appointee, said Mr. Trump’s filing was too lengthy, detailing events that “are implausible because they lack any specific allegations which might provide factual support for the conclusions reached.”
When I originally read the 108-page Donald Trump lawsuit filed in March 2022, it took me a few moments, and then I realized this was not a lawsuit; this was a legal transfer mechanism created by lawyers to establish a proprietary information silo.
Here’s a totally different take on the issues surrounding the Trump -v- Clinton lawsuit, which -from the outset- I always believed was going to be dismissed because suing all of those characters under the auspices of a civil RICO case was never the objective.
In the aftermath of the filing, the silo created by the lawsuit is grounded upon attorney-client privilege, a legal countermeasure to a predictable DOJ-NSD lawfare maneuver, which unfolded in the FBI Mar-a-Lago raid and the subsequent Jack Smith targeting operation.
In March 2022 President Trump filed a civil lawsuit against: Hillary Clinton, Hillary for America Campaign Committee, DNC, DNC Services Corp, Perkins Coie, Michael Sussmann, Marc Elias, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Charles Dolan, Jake Sullivan, John Podesta, Robby Mook, Phillipe Reines as well as Fusion GPS, Glenn Simpson, Peter Fritsch, Nellie Ohr, Bruce Ohr, Orbis Business Intelligence, Christopher Steele, Igor Danchenko, Neustar Inc., Rodney Joffe, James Comey Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Kevin Clinesmith and Andrew McCabe. [108-Page Lawsuit Here]
When I was about one-third of the way through reading the lawsuit, I initially stopped and said to myself this is going to take a lot of documentary evidence to back up the claims in the assertions. Dozens of attachments would be needed and hundreds of citations to the dozens of attachments would be mandatory. Except, they were not there.
After reading further, while completely understanding the background material that was being described in the filing, I realized this wasn’t a lawsuit per se’. The 108-pages I was holding in my hands was more akin to legal transfer mechanism from President Trump to lawyers who needed it.
The lawsuit filing was contingent upon a series of documents that would be needed to support the claims within it.
Whoever wrote the lawsuit had obviously reviewed the evidence to support the filing. However, the attachments and citations were missing.
That was weird.
That’s when I realized the purpose of the lawsuit. In hindsight, things became clear when the FBI later raided the home of Donald Trump, and suddenly the motive to confiscate documents, perhaps the missing lawsuit attachments and citations, surfaced.
With the manipulative, and I said intentional, “ongoing investigation” angle created by the John Durham probe essentially blocking public release of declassified documents showing the efforts of all the lawsuit participants (Trump-Russia Collusion Hoax), in 2021 President Trump needed a legal way to secure and more importantly share evidence.
Think of it like the people around Trump wanting to show lawyers the evidence in the documents. However, because of the construct of the lawfare being deployed against Trump, any lawyer would need a *reason* to review the evidence. The Trump -v- Clinton et al lawsuit becomes that ‘reason.’
I think Sundance really hit this out of the park. This explains SO MUCH of what has been going on.
The key fact is that Trump was making smart legal maneuvers to prosecute Russiagate, even when he was out of office, on the legal ropes, and basically a civilian at Mar-a-Lago. And these damned criminals KNEW IT. I contend they were STILL spying on him, trying to make sure he could never prosecute them for what they had done.
What we are seeing here, during the 4 years of out-of-office HELL they put Trump through, is Trump maintaining FORWARD LEGAL PROCESS on taking down the Russiagate spying and framing apparatus and punishing those involved. Stated another way, Pam Bondi, Alina Habba, and all the rest of Trump’s legal team were on a course to exactly where we are right now, from the moment that Trump brought each one aboard.
This is why Trump’s team is so prepared for what they’re now doing. This is why the Demmunists basically threw Epstein’s body out of their getaway car, to try to keep Trump from catching them. This is why the Cabal is activating the Israel/Palestine angle at every opportunity.
Suddenly, I realized that Trump has been preparing to go after the “Russiagate set-up / frame job” for MUCH longer than what seems to be going on right now.
Sundance is pushing the date on this stuff back to Durham, but I think we all realize that it probably goes back to the moment that “some dude from NSA” warned Trump that he was being spied on illegally.
I believe that once Trump realized that the establishment was illegally spying on him, he began moving to take them down for it. I don’t think he ever seriously acted as if he was not going to get these guys and gals for what they did. IN FACT, the whole timeline of their attempt to take down Trump makes even more sense now, because THEY knew Trump was going to make them pay, and so they escalated against him.
Even when Trump said that he thought “going after Hillary” for her actual crimes was something he thought that he SHOULDN’T do, I’m sure that Hillary and Obama wanted to make sure that it was something Trump COULDN’T do.
I think the color revolution attack at Charlottesville, the “gun control attack” at Las Vegas, the impeachments, and every other phony scheme against Trump were ALL the result of the plotters being INFLAMED by knowing that Trump wasn’t just bitching about what they had done to him – he was ready and willing to make them pay legally for it. I believe that their continued, unconstitutional, illegal spying revealed Trump to be seriously and continuously moving toward convicting and punishing those who had falsely used the intelligence apparatus to go after him.
And this leads to everything else, including the assassination.
Trump was RELENTLESS in the pursuit of justice, smartly playing every opportunity on the chessboard. They could not shake him. EVEN after they drove him out of office, he was planning how to take them down. Their SPYING on Trump never let up – and it was giving them answers they did not want to hear. I will bet money that Trump NEVER, EVER – even for deception – told anybody that he was going to “let them all off the hook”. Nope. He had them scared shitless, no doubt in my mind.
And THAT is why the Obama people and the Clinton people – every one of them – had to go after Trump. ALL of them. Trump was going to do what was needed to see justice happen. And they knew that, from the moment that Trump learned they were spying on him.
SO SATISFYING. The crooks have KNOWN justice was coming for them. From 2016.
Check out this article:
Trump Really Was Spied On
Durham says techies linked to the Clinton campaign had access to White House and Trump Tower internet data.
Joe Biden never won. This is our Real President – 45, 46, 47.
AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.
This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).
Our various sister sites, listed in the Blogroll in the sidebar
Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.
Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.
We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.
Joe Biden didn’t win.
And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.
Well, it looks like we did. GOOD!!!
Wolfie’s Wheatie’s Word of the Week:
yird
noun, verb
earth, sod, soil, topsoil, loam, etc.
ground
to bury
to inter
Used in a sentence
The yird in the yard ain’t no place to yird your momma, but it will work for the old squirrel killed by pesticides.
Used in the title of a homemade horror movie
Used in a poem
MUSIC!
The Yirdbards! Whoops, I mean the Yardbirds!
THE STUFF
TL;DR- Bug sprays are the new vax, and you are the bugs they want to control.
It’s time to start talking about pesticides and depopulation. I will explain why in a few minutes.
Begin with this old video.
Robert Malone just re-blogged a really excellent article on MAHA and pesticides, and it is very helpful background for what I want to talk about. Please check it out.
TL;DR- The first step in going full vax, is getting vax-level legal protection.
Will Congress give the pesticide industry a de facto liability shield?
Guest essay by Dr. Meryl Nass, exclusive to Malone.News
The “public” bottom line is that the pesticide industry has seen how the vaccine industry protected itself from consequences – and they want some of that “protected monopoly” action, too!
The “hidden” bottom line, driven by the depoppers hiding behind plausible deniability and their industrial puppets, is that depop by vaccine is SO busted, but “Depop Plan B” using pesticides on both humans and animals is quite doable, and is now getting the big green light.
If we are not careful, a NEW form of depopulation will be granted a “free pass” to begin culling where vaccines left off, when we refused to take them.
I will share what I am learning in that regard.
Pesticides Tag in as Vaccines are on the Ropes
Did you know that CHINA wants to spray your yard, your house, your deck, your basement, your garden plants – with a chemical that goes right into those plants INTENTIONALLY – and will depopulate the hives of the bees that visit those flowers? Oh, yeah – and the squirrels and birds in your yard? Maybe even the vultures that eat the carcasses? That will cause measurable changes to your cardiovascular system? And for which they will charge you something approaching a grand per year – and that they will make you sign an almost unbreakable contract, which you can’t break – EVEN FOR HEALTH REASONS – without losing most of your money?
You had better wise up fast, because China figured out that Americans aren’t going to take those vaccines, and they have a NEW PLAN.
And I’m here to tell you all about it.
I have an organic yard and house. Yeah, I have to use some herbicides and some pesticides, but I generally avoid them almost entirely. If I absolutely must, I use weak, natural insecticides like natural pyrethrins VERY occasionally. I use borax traps for ants. I use pheromone traps for Japanese beetles. I use SPIDERS for most insects, and HOUSE CENTIPEDES to keep the spiders under control. The rule is that my little natural friends have to stay hidden, and they learn fast, just like little AI robots. Scare them good, and you won’t see them again.
I use natural oil repellents for rabbits, squirrels, and deer in the gardens. This natural system works like crazy. Good dehumidification also helps in a big way, to keep bugs out of the house. I pass those tips along to all my friends, too, just like they were passed on to me. A natural and dry house is a surprisingly clean and bug-free house.
We have birds, squirrels, rabbits, deer, coyotes, skunks, racoons, groundhogs, bats, woodpeckers, hawks, owls, chipmunks, field mice, and every other critter you can imagine. We treat the animals well, and they entertain us all year long. The insects can’t come in the house, however, and our pampered little predators take care of the few that do.
However, not all of my friends and neighbors have stood up to the blatant, merciless, and sometimes literally illegal solicitations by the pestilence of “green” pesticide companies, trying to sell their services to the unwary.
I am going to warn you about them.
What follows is a combination of my experiences with those of my friends, my neighbors, and their friends and neighbors. Most of this is first-hand information given directly to me by the people involved. Some is second-hand. Some is my own experience. I’m going to wrap it all up in one ball – a single “friend” – to keep all these people anonymous, and bury my connections to them.
My “friend” has some serious warnings for you. Pay attention – and LIVE.
My friend actually thinks the home pesticide racket is built for depop. I knew this person was wise to depop with vaccines, but not pesticides, so when they told me the current pressure by green pesticide companies was all about depopulation, I was stunned. I wasn’t even fully there yet. But when you hear my friend’s story, it makes sense.
Yes – depopulation by nasty elites and progs is almost a mainstream belief now.
The high-pressure sales by these “green pesticide” companies has gone up by a full quantum level. We used to get the top two or three companies coming to our door, once every few years, but lately they’re all everywhere, all the time. The competition is FIERCE. I’ve seen them coming to most of my friends’ houses, too. The companies send both college kids and seasoned pros on these calls, and it seems like most of these salespeople will just ignore “NO SOLICITORS” signs.
My friend is an avid gardener and a DIY type, and had avoided using a pesticide company for years. However, because they were in the middle of a very wet summer with a lot of insects getting into the house, AND because the salesman made it sound like their people were just applying organic plant extracts to the exterior, and promised it would solve the problem, my friend made the mistake of trusting the sales pitch, and signed a 1-year contract to try it out. HUGE mistake.
“Plant-based” doesn’t mean “plant extracts”. Nor does it mean organic. Nor does it mean natural. It means “there exist natural substances with the same mode of bug-killing action, but this newer, stronger, and more persistent synthetic poison is not one of them.”
It’s the difference between “pyrethrins” (moderately toxic natural substances in chrysanthemum flowers) and “pyrethroids” (synthetic molecules that kinda look like the natural ones, but are many times more potent and toxic).
Ditto for “neonicotinoids“, which function at the same insect (or mammal) receptors as nicotine, but have molecules which increasingly look almost nothing like nicotine.
Neonicotinoids, a.k.a. “neonics“, are contentious because (IMO) they are both over-accused in some ways, and under-accused in others. Let’s just say that they are not without controversy.
That is what is being called “plant-based”, “organic”, etc. Technically, it’s true, or almost true, but realistically, it’s so close to a lie, you need a spark-plug gapper to find the space. IMO, the term “plant-based” is a bridge between SCAMMERS and MARKS – nothing more. It is designed to get people who are very reluctant to spray synthetic poisons around their houses, to spray synthetic poisons around their houses.
Caveat emptor.
What it meant in practice for my friend, was a mixture of AGRICULTURAL INSECTICIDES sprayed all over the exterior of the house, sprayed on the ground all around the house and on the decks, sprayed all over the garden, and then delayed-release pellets of still more insecticides being scattered all over the lawn.
The very first casualty was one of my friend’s favorite squirrels – a big old thing – dead on the ground where the company had sprayed, two days later. They weren’t sure if it walked through the sprayed areas or munched on one of the timed-release pellets, but based on the maggot and ant activity, the squirrel likely died within hours of the first application.
It definitely took care of the insects (it took a few days) – they were GONE from the garden – including all the pollinators. There were definitely fewer insects coming into the house. The stuff works.
HOWEVER, my friend felt ILL within hours of spraying, and within 2-3 days knew that something was very wrong. They almost went to the doctor, and only held off from doing so, because they felt better after about a week to 10 days.
Now – here is the kicker. A few weeks later, my friend was told by their FitBit (health wrist watch) that there had been an improvement in exercising heart rate – that their pulse had gone down significantly. My friend found that surprising, and looked at a graph of the health data. Yes, it had gone down – from an unexpected increase earlier. What was very obvious was full recovery from a HUGE increase in heart rate starting the very day that the pesticides had been applied, topping out in 3-4 days, then going back to normal in a week to 10 days. After that, a flat line of normalcy.
My friend even remembered ignoring an earlier notification about heart rate – probably when it increased.
The truth was all in the data.
Good thing my friend only has mild cardiac issues. What if this would have happened to somebody with serious cardiac problems?
I repeat. My friend has medical evidence of health effects due to the applied pesticides. My guess is that they suffered from both of the chemicals sprayed on the house – one is a powerful pyrethroid, which can cause nerve problems like the symptoms they described – the other is a neonicotinoid, meaning it’s biologically like nicotine, and that is the one that IMO likely raised their heart rate.
My friend canceled the service a.s.a.p. and told the company why. One might think that a person would get their money back for a health-related exit, but no – the contract required almost complete payment of the full contract for discontinuing for ANY reason. My friend did NOT give a damn – they were OUT.
Lesson learned.
Now, that squirrel wasn’t the only casualty. A different company came to my friend’s house later, and mentioned (as a selling point) that they had secured contracts with two families just down the road. Well, what do you know – a few days later, there was a HUGE vulture pecking at what looked like a small dead mammal in the first mentioned neighbor’s yard. And if that’s not enough, there was ANOTHER dead mammal – some kind of squirrel or chipmunk – found later next door to the second property mentioned by the happy salesman.
I repeat – these are were mammals.
Between my neighbor’s symptoms preserved in data, and 3 dead mammals in or near 3 treated yards, I know that I for one sure don’t want to have anything to do with these “green” pesticides. My suspicions of them have been confirmed.
If you want to read more about the health effects of pesticides, this is a really good slideshow:
Go back to Malone’s hosted article by Dr. Nass. You will find that a certain big pesticide company merged with ChemChina. ChemChina is STATE-OWNED – meaning it’s the CCP.
Well, that company which is under CCP control, happens to be the one that produced the mixture of chemicals which likely sickened my friend and killed the squirrel. So if you wouldn’t trust China to “safely” put poisons in your yard and on your house, then strongly consider hiring some spiders to take care of the insects, and some house centipedes to take care of the spiders. Let the birds take care of the insects. Let the bees take care of the flowers. And let the hawks take care of the squirrels.
This man, making Christmas calls from the White House, believes the world is a sphere. And he has even flown around it! So has our beautiful FLOTUS, who happens to be his wife!
Truth and common sense must be valued by us, as individuals, in order to lastingly disempower the authoritarian fake news media. This includes the perniciously smarmy science media, which never answers for its errors and lies. I believe that the media has been responsible not only for leftist pathologies like scientism, medical fascism, and radical gender ideology, but also for reactionary movements like modern flat Earth, rejection of all medicine, and Biblical geological literalism.
Just as Wheatie’s Stormwatch Monday Open Thread was created as a place for people to openly express their thoughts and opinions, so, too, is this Thank God Thursday Open Thread, where honest but civil discussion of all topics is encouraged. This thread is also to be known as Theistic Evolution Thursdays, due to the author’s expected “pontification” about his scientific, religious, and political opinions. You are welcome to pontificate back! Free speech matters!
Please label all AI-generated content as being such, unless it is patently obvious (e.g., humorous AI images). It is important that we as individuals not begin to pretend that socially derived artificial intelligence is actually our own, as this form of stealthy social information averaging and feedback would be one more pretense and deception between people, in service of stupid Marxist socialism, and of those who wish to substitute their communally protected lies for actual truth.
The source of alleged truth matters, not for the truth itself, but for validation.
And yes, it’s THURSDAY…again.
And that’s it. We’re done stealing from Wheatie.
OK – maybe her rules need to be posted.
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Other rules may be derivable from these, and that conjecture is left for discussion.
If there is nothing beyond the “W” below, then this is a placeholder. For health reasons, I can’t always post a timely opinion before each Thursday, but I will try. Otherwise, you have this placeholder post, where YOU provide the content. Enjoy!
W
Why Current Electric Vehicles Suck As “Reliable” Transportation – And What Might Be Done About It
We were discussing electric vehicles here, when Aubergine made an important point – quite bluntly, the superiority of internal combustion engines at simply getting the job done.
Dude, I live in Montana. Until an electric vehicle reliably runs in -20 degrees, can go several hundred miles without a charge, and can be easily repaired in the middle of a wheat field, they are not going to work here.
Gasoline and diesel engines are practical, EVs are not.
Some of this is inherent to the technology. Gasoline and diesel oil doesn’t lose energy availability at low temperatures, but batteries DO. This is a well-established problem with electric vehicles (EVs).
Note Aubergine’s point about “easily repaired in the middle of a wheat field” – and just consider the simple “repair” of bringing a gallon or two of gasoline to a vehicle which has run out of gas. Yes, there are electrical options – but the equivalent of walking for a gallon of gas isn’t one of them. The closest thing is calling in a jumper truck instead of a tow truck. This shows how much convenience is given up by leaving the simple, long-solved convenience of the internal combustion engine.
But it gets worse.
Barkerjimposted a link to a really great analysis, showing why EVs will NEVER be “quick fill-ups” using the current technology.
ChiCom-sponsored brag science is claiming they have a new battery that can basically solve all the problems of EV batteries. The oh-so-trustworthy Huawei is saying the battery can give ranges of 1800 miles and a 5-minute recharge.
Really?
You mean THIS stuff is solved?
Sorry – not really.
The reality is quite problematic, and Willis Eschenbach explains why.
But, as usual, reality is hiding out in the fine print, ducking the spotlight while the PR machine does its victory lap. Nobody wants to talk about physics. Nobody asks how, exactly, you’re supposed to pour Niagara Falls through a garden hose.
Left unsaid in all of that is the fact that that cable is NOT very flexible. So you’re going to have to park far away from the charger just to have enough flex in the cable to be able to attach it to your car. And it will still take two hours to charge your car because it’s only 1/24th of what you need.
The reason this problem doesn’t already exist at supercharging stations is that the car is only charging up for 300 miles, not 1800 miles.
This is where my mind typically gets BIOS-booted back into “utter basics of batteries” mode – where we just look at the chemistry of “redox” – meaning “oxidation and reduction”.
Rust, fire, human metabolism, copper cleanser, and batteries, are all examples of redox. Oxidation and reduction is what batteries do, only with rerouting of the electrons into an electrically useful pathway, instead of “just heat”. The battery is an ingenious perversion of fire, one might say.
And yet, this.
Batteries are – fundamentally – just chemical reactions. And that has consequences.
Interestingly, the inverse is also true.
Direct chemical reactions can be viewed as ultimately short-circuited, failing batteries.
And it gets bigger. Planet sized, in fact.
The biosphere on Earth is a kind of giant, solar-charging battery. Plants are the key – the thing that makes the battery, resulting in biocarbon and oxygen. Land plants store the energy as wood and oxygen.
The oxygen part of the battery encompasses the entire planet, which is a bit of a mind-blower, and has some amazing implications. The wood part of the battery may degrade to coal or petroleum, but either way, sunlight creates a giant charged battery. That battery can then discharge through FIRE. And, that fire can be converted to electricity.
California could take advantage of this giant battery, and turn its wood problem into money, but under intellectual “progressive” lightweights like Gavin Newsom, that can’t happen. Sad.
The internal combustion engine is the same, only it uses really old wood. AND – in a strange sense – it’s like an EV that works through battery discharge of heat, and not by any direct electrical intervention.
Now that I’ve loosened up your mind a bit about what is a battery and what is a chemical reaction, let’s look at why internal combustion is such a great type of EV.
Can We Use The Great Oxygen Battery Component?
For one thing, the internal combustion battery takes advantage of atmospheric oxygen as the “oxidant” part of the battery. That is a huge part of the battery weight that does not have to be hauled around. That part of the battery is already wherever you want to be.
Likewise, the discharged part of the battery (CO2 and H2O) is simply ejected into the shared global atmospheric battery, where these substances can be recycled by the solar generator (plants) and converted back into wood and oxygen.
Yeah, take a moment to savor the beauty of what God hath wrought through “just” the Schroedinger equation and the periodic table!
BEAUTY PAUSE.
Ok, back to stuff.
If we’re going to stick with lithium (or similar) batteries, the electrical vehicle is always going to be stuck with hauling ALL of the battery around. Both the oxidant and the reducing agent are going for the ride. And THAT includes the “used” oxidant and reducing agent. The full battery – even the discharged stuff – is going for the full ride, and is being hauled around by the good stuff.
SO – my first point – is that it sure would be nice if the EV battery could use oxygen as the oxidizing agent.
JUST SAYIN’.
This needs research, and isn’t a quick fix. But it offers future possibilities.
So setting that ambitious point aside, let’s go back to the points made by Willis and SteveInCO.
Can We Make Electricity Delivery Fast Like Gasoline?
How can we make gas service station stops SHORT and SWEET?
IMO, moving back toward a SHARED BATTERY like the atmosphere can work in several ways other than oxygen. One way would be to make the fuel something that you can just load into the car quickly and drive away. If car batteries were more like rechargeable device batteries – meaning they just slid in and out of vehicles – then energy stops would pretty much be as fast as racing pit stops, if one needed a fresh, charged battery. Just swap batteries and move on down the road.
With a scheme like this, the infrastructure for charging batteries could be located either in service stations, or nearby. Charging on the road becomes something that is done away from the consumer, except when home charging.
Note also that “swap-in” battery units can be very smart and the latest tech. The latest battery tech becomes a lot like the grade of the gasoline. Even better, the battery becomes something that can change technologies quickly, evolving faster than the vehicles themselves.
Battery units can be “self-warming” to get maximum energy release. They can be delivered warm and ready to work on the coldest day. They can keep themselves warm, as needed. They become their own thing – less of a concern for most drivers.
My most important point, however, has nothing to do with the chemistry or electrical technology.
Let All Batteries Fight It Out
To recover the innovation of “non-gasoline batteries”, we have to AVOID both unnecessary regulations and subsidies. Let these technologies compete, so that they can evolve. It is my contention that subsidies have distorted the technology of electric vehicles. EVs are not convenient in certain ways, because the “technosphere” of EVs had one focus of its geometry moved too close to individuals and their homes, due to subsidies administered through individuals.
That approach worked for a while, but it has led to technology which has limited the growth of EVs, and has held EVs back from being the industry that they could have been. Microsoft – for all its problems – knew that it had to create an ecosystem around itself, and let other forces drive significant parts of that ecosystem. EVs need to do the same. Off-loading “batteries” and “battery service” into largely separate industries that others can monetize and innovate in, could be the right move here.
Let gas and coal compete – and at all levels of organization! IMO, coal-powered vehicles like Teslas have a great future, especially as nuclear-powered vehicles. However, they will need to go through growing pains.
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delubrum
noun
font (receptacle in a church for holy water, especially one used in baptism)
temple or shrine
temple or shrine having a font
church with a font
sanctuary
place of purification
Used in a proper name in a quoted sentence
Delubrum Reginae [Final Fantasy game] has a lot of really fun things going on with it in the boss fights, some of which I’m looking forward to seeing more of in the future!
Shown in a picture
[Nabataean delubrum of the Siq al-Barid (Little Petra) in Jordan]
Shown [game] in a video that shows you how much of an alternate reality games have become
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The mass line was a political campaign style developed and used by Mao Zedong and the CCP in the People's Republic of China. It's a very common method for doing agitation and propaganda, as well as for driving radicalization ever since.
The name…
— James Lindsay, anti-Communist (@ConceptualJames) July 14, 2025
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Understanding the mass line.
The mass line was a political campaign style developed and used by Mao Zedong and the CCP in the People’s Republic of China. It’s a very common method for doing agitation and propaganda, as well as for driving radicalization ever since.
The name “mass line” suggests two possible meanings, and as it happens, the technique uses both. One is that the “mass line” is the line the masses are taking, and the other is that it’s the line being fed to the masses.
Here’s how it works.
The mass line begins by being extracted from the masses. Issues that are likely to agitate or incite them are determined by the propaganda office. The issues should be ones that are likely to invoke mass mobilization campaigns tapping a lot of negative, or sometimes positive, emotions (e.g., frustration, anger, fear, despair, or hope and enthusiasm).
These issues are then studied by the propaganda office to determine how they can be packaged, or codified, in terms of the party’s interests, ambitions, and interpretive frame.
These reframed inciting issues are then fed back to the masses in a mass line campaign, which runs reflexively to make it seem like it’s the current issue everyone is talking about and mobilizing around. The emotion under the mass line as it was extracted gets channeled into the mass line campaign as it benefits the party.
For example, the masses could be angry and frustrated that rents are too high and housing is unaffordable. The party would then recognize this reservoir of resentment in the people and would codify it by deciding it is caused by the landlords being too greedy and selfish. They would then feed this interpretation of the issue in a big-scale campaign back to the people with the goal of inciting and mobilizing them all at once. “Rents are too high because we have too many landlords who are greedy!”
The party will likely also package in a pre-determined solution pathway into the mass line because the point is often to get the people to demand the thing the party wants to do. They might add, “we need rent controls” or “we need state ownership of apartments.”
The mass line is then pushed with a vigorous campaign that makes it feel like the most important issue everyone is talking about, and one that has to be solved now, usually according to the line provided by the party. The masses are thereby mobilized to protest and demand what the party wanted in the first place. Their energy, which might be quite legitimate, is coopted to the party’s agenda.
That’s how the mass line works. Be on the lookout. We see them everywhere now.
PS:
For those who followed my explanations of Paulo Freire’s critical pedagogy, this is the same methodology applied to education, as Freire himself explains in Pedagogy of the Oppressed.
Gathering the mass line is finding the “generative themes,” which the educator then “codifies” and delivers back to the students in a “decodification” that interprets their circumstances for them to awaken critical consciousness and to inspire radical activism.
There are several different psychological methods used to manipulate the public. I think we have all heard of the Hegelian dialectic: Problem – Reaction – Solution. An excellent example is making schools ‘No Gun Zones’ via the Gun-Free School Zones Act of 1990. Followed by Facilitating school shootings and then scream we need to get rid of the 2nd Amendment Right to bear arms.
…since the days of Karl Marx and Frederick Engels it has been used as a guided process toward a desired end.
The objective of Hegelian dialectics in this sense is to replace something old with something new (e.g., capitalism with communism, traditional Bible doctrine with theological modernism, a traditional educational system based on moral absolutes with a new one based on relativism, an old age with a new).
Used like this, Hegelian dialectics cannot produce the new thing, but it can destroy the old. Other processes and techniques come into play in actually producing the new thing that is desired.
Hegelian dialectics is used today to create a “paradigm shift” by replacing an old “paradigm” (prevailing belief system) with a new one. It is a technique of “social evolution” and “political transcendence.”
It is not an innocent process. It is used by “change agents” and “facilitators of transformation.” Hegelian dialectics is “the framework for guiding our thoughts and actions into conflicts that lead us to a predetermined solution” (Niki Raapana and Nordica Friedrich, “What Is the Hegelian Dialectic?” October 2005, http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/05/dialectic.htm).
Speaking religiously and spiritually, it is an ever-evolving system that never arrives at absolute truth. All is relative and negotiable and the end justifies the means….
Another method we ran into during the Farm Wars was the Delphi Technique.
If you look that term up on Brave today the first three options you get:
In contrast with many other types of interviews and focus groups, Delphi studies allow participants to rethink and refine their opinions based on the input of others, contributing to a more reflective and thoughtful process.
The following key characteristics of the Delphi method help the participants to focus on the issues at hand and separate Delphi from other methodologies: in this technique a panel of experts is drawn from both inside and outside the organisation.
The Delphi technique is a systematic process of forecasting using the collective opinion of panel members. The structured method of developing consensus among panel members using Delphi methodology has gained acceptance in diverse fields of medicine. The Delphi methods assumed a pivotal role in the last few decades to develop best practice guidance using collective intelligence where research is limited, ethically/logistically difficult or evidence is conflicting….
TheDelphitechnique is an excellent consensus-building tool for complex project decisions that lack historical precedent or data. The Delphi method is a game-changing project management method to drive consensus and make complex decisions using an anonymous, and iterative approach by experts to provide input without influence from others…
The Delphi method (also called Wideband Delphi) was developed in the 1950s by the RAND Corporation as a forecasting methodology and named after the Greek Oracle of Delphi who foretold the future.
It is a structured, iterative process to solicit expert opinions and reach a consensus on complex problems or decisions which involves a facilitator sending multiple rounds of anonymous questionnaires to a panel of subject matter experts….
All nice glowing articles about the technique.
After reading that crap, I decide to make my notes from a couple decades ago available because the Delphi technique is not as innocent as those articles portray it. The key phrase is ‘CONSENSUS BUILDING’
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A special thanks to Marty Oakley, John Munsell, Lynn Cohen-Cole, Walter Jeffries, Barb and the rest of the Farm War Warriors who taught me so much about the evil encroaching on our land.
The original issue that brought all of this to light was of course the absurdly inflated claims of danger to scientists. Just like AGW, its all done “for the cause.”
Reading about this “deliberative democracy” project is extremely disturbing….
This needs to be looked into. Who set this up, who paid for the “study”, who is behind this? Are there other “deliberative democracy” projects like this going on in any other countries?
Sounds like “manipulative democracy”, not “deliberative democracy.” Scary stuff indeed.
The basis of the Delphi Technique is to achieve consensus on controversial topics and requires professional facilitators, we are told….
More and more, we are seeing citizens being invited to “participate” in various forms of meetings, councils, or boards to “help determine” public policy in one field or another. They are supposedly being included to get ”input” from the public to help officials make final decisions on taxes, education, community growth or whatever the particular subject matter might be.
Sounds great, doesn’t it? Unfortunately, surface appearances are often deceiving.
You, Mr. or Mrs. Citizen, decide to take part in one of these meetings.
Generally, you will find that there is already someone designated to lead or “facilitate” the meeting. Supposedly, the job of the facilitator is to be a neutral, non-directing helper to see that the meeting flows smoothly.
Actually, he or she is there for exactly the opposite reason: to see that the conclusions reached during the meeting are in accord with a plan already decided upon by those who called the meeting.…
In her article USDA Employing Delphi Technique, Marti Oakley describes the opposition we face as we go to the USDA listening sessions. I faced a similar situation when I attended a county meeting to discuss our land being turned over to the local tribe, as well as water rights.
I recognize now that the technique used in that meeting to manipulate the people present was the Delphi Technique. Although not aware of it at the time, I did use the technique described in the following article to counter it. This response came naturally, and was probably due to my former peace officer training. Countering this technique is not difficult, and I recommend it.
Here is a link to an article that describes what the Delphi Technique is:
The Delphi Technique was originally conceived as a way to obtain the opinion of experts without necessarily bringing them together face to face. In recent times, however, it has taken on an all new meaning and purpose. In Educating for the New World Order by B. Eakman, the reader finds reference upon reference for the need to preserve the illusion that there is “…lay, or community, participation (in the decision-making process), while lay citizens were, in fact, being squeezed out.” The Delphi Technique is the method being used to squeeze citizens out of the process, effecting a left-wing take over of the schools.
A specialized use of this technique was developed for teachers, the “Alinsky Method” (ibid, p.123). The setting or group is, however, immaterial; the point is that people in groups tend to share a certain knowledge base and display certain identifiable characteristics (known as group dynamics). This allows for a special application of a basic technique.
The change agent or facilitator goes through the motions of acting as an organizer, getting each person in the target group to elicit expression of their concerns about a program, project, or policy in question. The facilitator listens attentively, forms “task forces,” “urges everyone to make lists,” and so on. While s/he is doing this, the facilitator learns something about each member of the target group. S/He identifies the “leaders,” the “loud mouths,” as well as those who frequently turn sides during the argument — the “weak or noncommittal”.
Suddenly, the amiable facilitator becomes “devil’s advocate.” S/He dons his professional agitator hat. Using the “divide and conquer” technique, s/he manipulates one group opinion against the other. This is accomplished by manipulating those who are out of step to appear “ridiculous, unknowledgeable, inarticulate, or dogmatic.” S/He wants certain members of the group to become angry, thereby forcing tensions to accelerate. The facilitator is well trained in psychological manipulation. S/He is able to predict the reactions of each group member. Individuals in opposition to the policy or program will be shut out of the group.
The method works. It is very effective with parents, teachers, school children, and any community group. The “targets” rarely, if ever, know that they are being manipulated. Or, if they suspect this is happening, do not know how to end the process.
The desired result is for group polarization, and for the facilitator to become accepted as a member of the group and group process. S/He will then throw the desired idea on the table and ask for opinions during discussion. Very soon his/her associates from the divided group begin to adopt the idea as if it were their own, and pressure the entire group to accept the proposition…
Ground rules for disrupting the consensus process (Delphi Technique) — when facilitators want to steer a group in a specific direction.
1) Always Be Charming. Smile, be pleasant, be courteous, moderate your voice so as not to come across as belligerent or aggressive.
2) Stay Focused. If at all possible, write your question down to help you stay focused. Facilitators, when asked questions they don’t want to answer, often digress from the issue raised and try to work the conversation around to where they can make the individual asking the question look foolish, feel foolish, appear belligerent or aggressive. The goal is to put the one asking the question on the defensive. Do not fall for this tactic. Always be charming, thus deflecting any insinuation, innuendo, etc, that may be thrown at you in their attempt to put you on the defensive, but bring them back to the question you asked. If they rephrase your question into an accusatory statement (a favorite tactic) simply state, “that is not what I stated, what I asked was… (repeat your question).” Stay focused on your question.
3) Be Persistent. If putting you on the defensive doesn’t work, facilitators often resort to long drawn out dissertations on some off-the-wall and usually unrelated, or vaguely related, subject that drags on for several minutes – during which time the crowd or group usually loses focus on the question asked (which is the intent). Let them finish with their dissertation/expose, then nicely, with focus and persistence, state, “but you didn’t answer my question. My question was… (repeat your question).”
Remember…
always be charming,
stay focused, and
be persistent.
Never, under any circumstance, become angry. Anger directed at the facilitator will immediately make the facilitator “the victim.” This defeats the purpose which is to make you the victim. The goal of the facilitator is to make those they are facilitating like them, alienating anyone who might pose a threat to the realization of their agenda. [People with fixed belief systems, who know what they believe and stand on what they believe, are obvious threats.] If the participant becomes the victim, the facilitator loses face and favor with the crowd. This is why crowds are broken up into groups of seven or eight, why objections are written on cards, not voiced aloud where they are open to public discussion and public debate. It’s called crowd control. It is always good to have someone else, or two or three others who know the Delphi Technique dispersed through the crowd; who, when the facilitator digresses from the question, will stand up and say nicely, “but you didn’t answer that lady’s/gentleman’s question.” The facilitator, even if suspecting you are together, certainly will not want to alienate the crowd by making that accusation. Sometimes it only takes one occurrence of this type for the crowd to figure out what’s going on, sometimes it takes more than one.
If you have an organized group, meet before the meeting to strategize. Everyone should know their part. Meet after the meeting to analyze what went right, what went wrong and why, and what needs to happen the next time around. Never meet during the meeting. One of the favorite tactics of the facilitator, if the meeting is not going the way he/she wants, if he/she is meeting measurable resistance, is to call a recess. During the recess, the facilitator and his/her “spotters” (people who wander the room during the course of the meeting, watching the crowd) watch the crowd to see who congregates where, especially those who have offered measurable resistance. If the “resistors” congregate in one place, a “spotter” will usually gravitate to that group to “join in the conversation” and will report back to the facilitator. When the meeting resumes, the facilitator will steer clear of those who are “resistors.” Do not congregate. Hang loose and work the crowd. Move to where the facilitator or “spotters” are, listen to what they have to say, but do not gravitate to where another member of your team is.
This strategy also works in a face to face, one on one, meeting with anyone who has been trained in how to use the Delphi Technique.
With thanks to Sandy Vanderberg, Peg Luksik and others
It is amazing the variety of methods the Cabal has for controlling the ‘Great Unwashed’ Those are just a few.
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