“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
The above image of a physician performing a vaccination is courtesy of Google Images and The New York Times.
This post is the first of “Health Friday”, a new series of offerings related to Big Pharma, vaccines, general health, and related topics. It is an honor and privilege to contribute this series to the board. Since today’s post relates to COVID-19 and the COVID-19 “vaccines”, it is dedicated to the memory of Yours Truly’s cousin Bill, who “died suddenly and unexpectedly” in September 2023. However, the discussion will not be limited to what is presented today; it is an Open Thread.
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And now, to dive in. There is a lot to “unpack.”
The modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines” induce IgG4-related disease (IgG4-RD.)IgG4-related disease(IgG4-RD) is a term that covers multiple medical conditions, ranging from neurological to ocular to cardiovascular to respiratory to gastrointestinal to urogenital. Since it is a chronic inflammatory condition, there can be more than one location of an IgG4-RD associated ailment within the patient’s body. Please see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IgG4-related_disease, “IgG4-related disease”, which has a list of symptoms in reported cases of IgG4-RD, and a list of body area sites that can be affected by IgG4-RD. The first instance of what is now called IgG4-RD was discovered in 1892 by Johann von Mikulicz, who diagnosed an “inflammatory disease of the salivary glands” in a patient (this condition was later called Mikulicz’ disease.) In 2021, Hamano et al. found elevated IgG4 levels in patients with Autoimmune Pancreatitis (AIP.) Please see: https://ojrd.biomedicalcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13023-014-0110-z, “IgG4-related disease: an orphan disease with many faces”, Herwig Pieringer, et al., 16 July 2014. It appears that an issue with obtaining a true diagnosis of an IgG4-related disease is that many of the presenting elements can “mimic” other conditions, such as cancer or non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma. In addition, IgG4-RD can simply not present symptoms at all, until the patient concludes that “something is going on here.” In terms of the presenting symptoms of an IgG4-RD disease, there are, among others: storiform fibrosis (“spindle-shaped” cells that can, with collagen fibers, form a “flowing arrangement”); and, eosinophilia (high elevation of a type of white blood cell [eosinophils] that supports the natural immune system.) Please see: https://academic.oup.com/mr/article/31/3/529/6300281, “The 2020 revised comprehensive diagnostic (RCD) criteria for IgG4-RD”, Hisamori Umehara, et al., 4 May 2021. (Note: the entire article is restricted access.) Below is a portion from “IgG4-Related Disease” from StatPearls – NCBI Bookshelf, an article by Sudheer Nambiar and Tony I. Oliver (www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK499825):
There are some IgG4-RD conditions that may be genetically-based; one example is Autoimmune Pancreatitis (AIP.) Please see: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31104539/, “Genetic analysis of IgG4-related disease”, Yuki Ishikawa and Chikashi Terao, 7 June 2020. (Note: again, the entire article is restricted-access.) On the other hand, another IgG4-RD condition, Autoimmune Lymphoproliferative Syndrome (ALPS) appears to strike children. In addition, IgG4-RD conditions can be “immune-mediated” (meaning, the body’s immune system response is either inappropriate or excessive); and/or “autoimmune” (meaning, the body’s immune system attacks healthy tissues in the body.)
Yours Truly will examine the presence of eosinophilia as an indicator of IgG4-RD. This is an important “marker.” And it ties into the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines” — the COVID-19 “vaccinated” person’s natural immune system being damaged and/or destroyed by the ingredients and mechanisms of these “vaccines”; and, with repeated injections of these “vaccines” compounding this damage and/or destruction.
The first item is a blog article by Dr. Jessica Rose, PhD: https://jessicar.substack.com/p/igg4-related-disease-and-igg4-means, “IgG4-related disease (IgG4RD) means FIBROSIS and organ destruction”, 28 December 2022. It is now known that the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines” induce a “class switch” in the COVID-19 “vaccinated” person’s natural immune system; this “class switch” is the damage and/or destruction of IgG3 immune system cells (these cells help to fight off infections and other enemies that “invade” the natural immune system), replacing IgG3 cells with increased numbers of IgG4 cells (these cells help to allow the body to “tolerate” assaults to the natural immune system.) Repeated injections of modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines” exacerbate this process: please see https://doi.org/10.1126/sciimmunol.ade2798, “Class switch toward non inflammatory, spike-specific IgG4 antibodies after repeated SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccination”, Irrgang P, et al., 22 December 2022. Notice the title: “non inflammatory”, “spike-specific”, “IgG4”, and “repeated SARS CoV-2 mRNA vaccination.” IgG4-RD conditions can present as non-inflammatory (the patient doesn’t notice anything wrong for some period of time, see above in today’s post); however, the IgG4 levels in the patient are high upon examination. Below is a portion of the Introduction of the above paper. Note: Comirnaty was the non-United States version of the Pfizer-BioNTech modRNA COVID-19 “vaccine” BNT162b2. Comirnaty and BNT162b2 are the same product. Note 2: the 2023-2024 Comirnaty modRNA COVID-19 “vaccine” was given full FDA approval for use in the United States on 23 September 2023 for persons age 12 above: www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-receive-us-fda-approval-2023-2024-covid; the version that the FDA authorized (the “2023-2024 Formula COVID-19 Vaccine” by the same company) was for persons age 6 months through 11 years of age (www.fda.gov/media/167211/download.)
Note that the IgG4 cell increase extended for months after the second injection of Comirnaty and was further increased after the third injection. This correlates to the original “two-injection Primary Series” plus the original “booster shot” of Comirnaty that millions of persons took between December 2020 and early 2022. This would also include, since the formulations were the same, of the “Primary Series” and the original “booster shot” of BNT162b2 that were taken by millions of persons in the United States from December 2020, until Comirnaty was given full FDA approval in the United States on 8 July 2022 for persons age 12 and older (at which point, BNT162b2 was “replaced” by Comirnaty except for use in persons age 6 months to 11 years; the FDA authorized the “Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine” for this age group.) This “product name situation” may seem a little confusing: at bottom, it had to with removal of liability for the “vaccine” manufacturer. This will be discussed at a later date.) Note also that “VOC” means Variants of Concern (in other words, the Delta, the Omicron, the XBB.1.5 variants of the SARS-CoV-2 [COVID-19] virus, and so on.)
The second item is here: www.phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/reissue_5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf, 5.3.6 CUMULATIVE ANALYSIS OF POST-AUTHORIZATION ADVERSE EVENT REPORTS OF PF-07302048 (BNT162B2) RECEIVED THROUGH 28-FEB-2021, given by Pfizer-BioNTech to the FDA on 30 April 2021. This report covers Adverse Event Reports that were submitted to the company between 11 December 2020 (the date on which the FDA in the United States granted the initial Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for BNT162b2 to be used in the United States, 21 December 2020 (the date on which the EMA (European Medicines Agency) granted its initial EUA for BNT162b2 to be used in Europe / Scandinavia; and, 28 February 2021. The APPENDIX 1. LIST OF ADVERSE EVENTS OF SPECIAL INTEREST, which begins on Page 30 of this report, lists over 1,200 different types of medical adverse events that were reported to Pfizer-BioNTech from the worldwide EUA start dates above. On Page 3 and Page 4 of the APPENDIX 1. (Page 32 and Page 33 of the report), there are the following Adverse Events of Special Interest listed: Eosinopenia; Eosinophilic fasciitis; Eosinophilic granulomatosis with polyangiitis; Eosinophilic oesophagitis. On Page 5 of the APPENDIX 1. (Page 34) of the report, there is listed: Immunoglobulin G4 related disease. On Page 8 of the APPENDIX 1. (Page 37 of the report) there is listed: Sjogren’s syndrome (another type of IgG4-RD.) These are a few of the IgG4-RD types of reports that are listed in the APPENDIX 1. section. Thus, the FDA knew, on 30 April 2021, that BNT162b2 “vaccination” induces IgG4-related disease conditions. Yet, the FDA did nothing to stop the continuing rollout of BNT162b2.
A third item is here: https://mole.substack.com/cp/147758416, a 15 August 2024 cross-post from Lioness of Judah Ministry, “German Study Links Covid Shots to Surge in VITAL ORGAN DAMAGE among Children”. The study found that there was a large increase of organ damage induced by BNT162b2 in children in Germany ages 5 to 11 years old. The study is here: https://journals.lww.com/pidj/fulltext/9900/delayed_induction_of_noninflammatory_sars_cov_2.959.aspx, “Delayed Induction of Noninflammatory SARS-CoV-2 Spike-Specific IgG4 Antibodies Detected 1 Year After BNT162b2 Vaccination in Children”. Kobbe, Robin MD, et al., 30 July 2024. The IgG4 antibodies were detected after the second dose of BNT162b2 (in other words, after the “Primary Series” of two BNT162b2 injections was completed.)
And, a fourth item is here, related to COVID-19, the COVID-19 “vaccines” and autoimmune conditions: https://wmcresearch.substack.com/p/long-covid-is-an-autoimmune-disease, “Long COVID is an Autoimmune Disease: Injecting Mice with IgG from Long COVID Patients Induces Symptomology”, by Walter M Chesnut, 4 June 2024. Mr. Chesnut has long posited that the spike protein of the COVID-19 virus itself contains elements that attack the natural immune system of the body of a person infected with this virus; and that the COVID-19 virus itself can induce what is now called “Long COVID.” Yours Truly will add the opinion that the difference between “Long COVID” in a person who is “unvaccinated” against COVID-19, and “Long COVID” in a COVID-19 “vaccinated” person, is this: the natural immune system of the “unvaccinated” person still has the potential to not only fight off a COVID-19 infection, but also to mitigate or eliminate the chance that “Long COVID” may result from the infection; whereas, the natural immune system of the COVID-19 “vaccinated” person has been damaged (or worse), resulting in a much larger potential for “Long COVID” (both in presentation and in duration.)
Yours Truly believes that the COVID-19 virus itself, and the ingredients and mechanisms of the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines” (one of these ingredients being a “lab-modified” form of the RNA of said virus), both attack the natural immune system of the body. The COVID-19 “vaccines” have been shown to damage and/or destroy the IgG3 cells of the body’s natural immune system (these cells help to fight off viruses, etc.), replacing these with increased amounts of IgG4 cells (“toleration facilitator” cells.) In Yours Truly’s opinion, one of the important details here is the targeting of HLA cells (human leukocyte antigen cells, a type of white blood cells) by the COVID-19 virus itself, and, by extension, the COVID-19 “vaccines.”
And, from this paper: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10864075, “HLA-DRB1 Is Associated with Therapeutic Responsiveness in IgG4-related disease”, Motohisa Yamamoto, et al., 23 May 2024:
Note that one of the most-recommended and used treatments for IgG4-RD conditions is glucocorticoids (steroids); and that cessation of treatment likely results in relapse of the condition. But, long-term use of glucocorticoids have risks, including high blood pressure and Cushing’s Disease. Please see: www.webmd.com/multiple-sclerosis/what-are-glucocorticoids.
Yours Truly will posit that the lab-created SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) virus itself, with the lab enhancements made to the mRNA of this virus to create the modRNA of the COVID-19 “vaccines” (such as the SV40 African Green Monkey cancer promoter gene piece in BNT162b2), plus the addition of dangerous lipid nanoparticles (ALC-0159 and ALC-0315 in BNT162b2 and its “descendant” COVID-19 “vaccines”; and, SM-102 in the Moderna mRNA-1273 modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines” and its “descendant” COVID-19 “vaccines”) and other ingredients in these “vaccines” — have been, and continue to be, designed to wreak as much havoc and damage on the human race as possible. This havoc and damage includes that done to the body’s natural immune system, its elements, mechanisms, and responses. Recall that the “descendant” modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines” use the original (lab-enhanced) SARS-COV-2 (COVID-19) virus modRNA that was present in the earlier versions of these “vaccines”, but in smaller amounts. Therefore, in one’s opinion, the potential exists for immune system damage in persons who take these “descendant” modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines.”
Until fairly recently, it was not known HOW, or the DETAILS behind WHY, the COVID-19 virus itselfand the COVID-19 “vaccines” have such potential for havoc and damage — all that was beginning to present were, and are, the ADVERSE EFFECTS of the virus and especially of the “vaccines”: turbo-cancers; miscarriages; Bell’s Palsy; deaths; the Adverse Events of Special Interest listings of negative effects induced by BNT162b2 in the APPENDIX 1. cited above. It is now starting to become more clear as to what SPECIFIC elements likely used in the creation of both the SARS-CoV-2 virus itself, and in the development of the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines.” Yours Truly will posit that one of these SPECIFIC elements is something that attacks and compromises at least one important component of the human body’s immune system: the antigen site of the human leukocyte protein DRB1 (HLA-DRB1.) It took time, effort, and large amounts of funding to investigate these SPECIFIC elements; to experiment with them to ascertain the damage that could be caused; then, to “insert” these elements into the SARS-CoV-2 virus itself, and, by extension, into the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines.” And, as the passage of time obscures or obliterates “fingerprints” of the damage done by the COVID-19 “vaccines” in the “vaccinated” individual, the involvement of these “vaccines” may well become harder and harder to trace (even though the damage is continuing in the “vaccinated” person, since one of the mechanisms of said “vaccines” is to change the DNA of the person who takes them.) Below is Slide 14 from the Palmer, MD and Sucharit, MD, article regarding what the COVID-19 “vaccines” do to the “vaccinated” person’s body. Slide 14 shows how the Pfizer-BioNTech modRNA COVID-19 “vaccine” BNT162b2 changes the DNA of the “vaccinated” person:
Yours Truly will emphasize that it is of the utmost importance that all persons, COVID-19 “vaccinated” or not, have and maintain the highest degree possible of natural immune system health. A healthy diet is one of many ways to support and maintain a healthy natural immune system. Here is an article on this topic: www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/322412, “The best foods for boosting your immune system”, by Lana Burgess, 10 July 2018. Among other ways to help the natural immune system are lifestyle changes, regular exercise, taking supplements, and addressing stress, as discussed here: www.healthline.com/nutrition/how-to-boost-immune-health, “9 Ways to Boost Your Body’s Natural Defenses”, by SaVanna Shoemaker, RDN, 1 April 2020. Yours Truly will add the opinion that avoiding unnecessary antibiotics and “certain injectables” are additional items to consider.
I do not have a twitter or X or Truth or Facebook accounts so I am leaving it to the rest of you to bring the juicy tidbits and funny memes to this thread. -GC
I am first going to start with a quote from Lame Cherry (H/T Tonawanda) since she says what I am thinking. (And I can not type 🙄)
…The major first red flag in this is that the Secret Service NEVER deploys counter sniper teams to former Presidents or events they are involved in. Considering the Trump Campaign was screaming for protection and denied.We now have a reality that although denied protection, or the first time in history counter sniper teams were deployed to Butler.
We might as well get the CIA conspiracy charge focused on this, 👉because the logic is, SS knew a patsy was going to be in Butler and they wanted this person dead, or persons dead.…
So what was the excuse for the deployment of counter sniper teams?
Protection for Donald Trump was heightened several weeks ago after U.S. authorities uncovered an Iranian plot to assassinate him, according to national security officials.
Protection for Donald Trump was boosted several weeks ago after US authorities learned of an Iranian plot to kill him, according to national security officials.
Funny how both of those articles now go to:
Hmmm… the page you’re looking for isn’t here.
However the Intel Community’s mouth piece, CNN now has:
US authorities obtained intelligence from a human source in recent weeks on a plot by Iran to try to assassinate Donald Trump,a development that led to the Secret Service increasing security around the former president, multiple people briefed on the matter told CNN.
There’s no indication that Thomas Matthew Crooks, the would-be assassin who attempted to kill the former president on Saturday, was connected to the plot, the sources said.
The existence of the intelligence threat from a hostile foreign intelligence agency — and the enhanced security for Trump — raises new questions about the security lapses at the Saturday rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, and how a 20-year-old man managed to access a nearby rooftop to fire shots that injured the former president….
…the official told CNN. “NSC directly contacted USSS at a senior level to be absolutely sure they continued to track the latest reporting. USSS shared this information with the detail lead, and the Trump campaign was made aware of an evolving threat. In response to the increased threat, Secret Service surged resources and assets for the protection of former President Trump. All of this was in advance of Saturday.”
Iran on Wednesday denied any involvement in the recent assassination attempt on former president Donald Trump at a Pennsylvania rally, while also rejecting allegations that it had any “intention for such an action.”
The Washington Post reported Tuesday that the Biden administration had informed the Secret Service of an unspecified threat to Trump from Iran before the July 13 campaign rally. U.S. officials said they believe the attack on the rally, where one attendee was killed and two were critically injured, and where Trump said he was shot in the ear, was unrelated to any Iranian effort.
In a statement, Foreign Ministry spokesman Nasser Kanaani said Iran “strongly rejects any involvement in the recent armed attack on Trump or claims about Iran’s intention for such an action, considering such allegations to have malicious political motives and objectives.”….
Seems the Iranians are NOT interested in taking the Rap for the US Intel Community. 😆 I guess they DO NOT want Big Bad Trump mad at them.
This was the SS walkthrough prep on the venue grounds before the rally.
Bald guy is Tim Burke.
So the women mentioned in the article could be 2 of 3 seen here
Commenter
The woman in the middle with grey shirt is the SS agent on the Trump stage who ducked, and then could not holster her gun – she’s without sunglasses here, but clear from body type, age, hair. I recall reading somewhere that she was the site agent for Butler, but not seeing any evidence.
👉The man on left with green shirt looks like the brick-colored pants/black polo who climbed on the roof at 7:01:36 of Grassley video 3. If Nick Menster was responsible along with Tim Burke, and given they are on the pre-site review, he may be this Nick Menster.
A bit out of place, but a new article on ZeroHedge 2 – pretty long – about Trump’s Secret Service detail and July 13 has some good tidbits.
Here is one:
” **The top supervisors who had to sign off on the security plan for the Butler rally are
Tim Burke, special agent in charge of the Secret Service’s Pittsburgh Field Office, and
Nick Menster, assistant special agent in charge of the Trump detail.”
👉“Burke is a friend of Rowe’s from the time they both served on a counter-assault team together early in their careers. Some critics within the Secret Service community question whether their close ties are impacting Rowe’s decision not to fire Burke or anyone else in the Pittsburgh Field Office.”
The article states that the position of site agent rotates, the woman who was site agent at Butler rally had little experience, and is in Ron Rowe’s crosshairs for scapegoating.
Another run at it with more video provided to Dr. Martenson. I still see it the same way. The deep state tried to assassinate PDT with the first three shots and missed. Patsy dies as cover for the lame lone wolf explanation.
Regime media has entirely moved on from the Trump assassination attempt, and the FBI hasn’t said one word about their investigation into it since July 15th which is 22 days ago.
Excellent video. I like the “shooter in the roof” theory – needs to be considered strongly – and it goes well with the purchase history of the company, too.
My question remains, however: besides the text message saying he was leaving, what proof do we have that he actually left at that time? And why do we have that text message at all? Why was that available/leaked very early on? Misdirection?
MacD
Maybe the reason that GN was so eager to get back into the building ahead of the other people (as seen on the cop car dash cam) was to “help” lead the room checking operation. “Yes sir, I just checked that room – all clear there …”
AlaskanSqueeze hippysteve
Game of CLUE any one ? This is pure speculation. If there was a second shooter.
It was Greg Nicoll in the second floor window. With the AR15.
Greg, was left alone while his partner (Coke?) went to look for Crooks.
A very calm looking Greg is seen leaving the AGR main entrance (And getting locked out) less than two minutes after the shooting.
Greg’s story is he went down stairs to let his buddy back in after he got locked out.
Greg was VERY keen to be the first one back in the building.
The AR15 which was used for shots 4 thru 8 was snuck out of the main entrance by two team members. [There is much discussion about a Halligan breaching tool vs a rifle. –GC]
Finally… Greg just looks guilty… as my Gran would say… “His eyes are too close together !” LOL
[At this point I am going to give up trying to get the multi-paragraph quotation working correctly. This is very long, and it takes way too much time! -GC]
gfgftt5d0q
In the most critical moment of a critical event you leave your post and get locked out.
Would you:
A. Calmly stand there and calmly walk away or
B. Shout “Oh, *uck!” and put your hands up in frustration, radio you are locked out, pound on the door if someone were inside to get them to open door.
Very suspect
P.S. My father says the same thing (eyes too close together).
VegasPatriot
The story did turn out to be true. You just have to look at it from a slightly different perspective.
The story about the counter-sniper leaving his post to go look for Crooks, then getting locked out, came from this X post by Benny Johnson. Johnson stated that it came from “a first-hand source of highest credentials.” Well, it turns out the story was mostly true, the timing involved was just a little off. Greg did leave the building to look for Crooks, albeit close to 2 minutes after shots were fired. He did get locked out of the building, and it appears someone let him back in along with other…
So why did the source leak the story? Was it the cover story he heard from Greg or the other counter-sniper, and knew it to be misleading because the source was one of the LEOs at the Building 6 entrance and wanted the truth to be known by alerting the public of what to watch for? That’s my point. Why was that misleading story leaked in the first place?
Sgt Raven
As for the keys/card. One of the bodycam videos shows someone getting a big set of keys with a white card and AGR sharpie written on it from the glove box of a PoPo car.
This is the photo he is talking about.
BigTim
Intolerance:
but people come out of that building and so far no one has reported about hearing anything coming from inside the building. there was no reports of smoke or anything. so this supposed 2nd shooter was somehow never seen in or out of the building, never heard, and even perfectly accounted for police bodycams, spectators with smartphones, etc. or maybe it’s like that movie Inside Man, he dug a hole in the wall and he walked out of the building a few days later lol
PhaseFive:
The building and all rooms were sure to be checked at some point by officers. So I do not think the 2nd shooter would rely on a locked door to keep his setup a secret. Thus the above ceiling option.
We don’t have a great inventory of who was in the AGR 6 building during the shooting, but from memory here’s what I can piece together.
Videos from the crowd on the west fairly conclusively show nobody entering/exiting the west door.
Videos from the car dash cam on the east, show only Greg Nicols coming out 2 minutes after the shooting. It’s an odd location for him to be, and an odd time for him to exit that location. He could have been standing guard
Let’s not forget the huge gap of unaccounted for time (something like 6 minutes from 6:06 to 6:12, where one or both left their post and we are relying on their statements.
I could theorize and speculate that GN and his partner established a secretive spot and snipers nest above the drop ceiling on AGR6 facing South, looking thru a wall vent. GN would stand guard, and it would take perhaps a minute or so for his team-mate to get down from the shooting position after 1-3 shots.
Evidence to support this:
Absurd cover stories for both of them.
No videos so far of GN searching outside for Crooks as claimed.
Blood in bathroom has yet to be convincingly explained, could have been GN’s partner getting injured getting down from false ceiling hiding spot.
We have radio witness report of someone seen in a window. While vague it would likely have been a south facing AGR#6 window, and could have been GN or his partner looking out from an interior room to check the status.
Some audio analysis and calculations support this location due to sound and calculated distances.
We have yet to know GN’s partners name, who was bleeding in the bathroom, any good interior walkthru or pictures of the building, or many other crucial facts.
Extra credit prediction:
I predict AGR6 mysteriously burns down and some of the members of these security teams mysteriously die off in the near future.
Commenter
It may have been a location above a window, but the possibility of officers checking one of those rooms does not disqualify them as good options for a second shooter, if it’s one of the BC ESUs, as hypothesized by some.
It’s a reasonable assumption that the two BC ESUs were the only people in AGR 6. Having set up, the ESU can shoot 1-3 and leave the room with the rifle (assuming a 5.56 round like Crooks’) and put it back in the the 2nd floor over-watch window – there is no physical hiding needed, if the ESU uses the same rifle for over-watch as for shooting at Trump. The “second-shooter rifle” would be hidden in its identity as a legitimate ESU/SWAT rifle at the over-watch window.
This trip up to 2nd floor to put back the rifle would take 20 seconds.
We saw the LEOs entering AGR6 only 6:15:28, about four minutes after the shots.
20 seconds versus 240 seconds – now this is in hindsight, but an ESU as a second shooter in one of those rooms should be pretty confident that it would take much more than 20 seconds for LEOs to notice the shooting, recognize origin, run over, and enter AGR 6. Very low risk. He’d just need a bag or something over his rifle to capture most of the powder smoke and smell in that room.
VegasPatriot
The 3rd shot was fired at 18:11:33. Greg Nicol exited AGR 6 at 18:13:24. So far he is the only one to be confirmed inside the building when shots were fired. The door gets opened back up at 18:15:23. Therefore, if a second shooter fired shots 1-3 from AGR 6, he would have had about 4 minutes to exit his nest.
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This is a discussion among the commenters at Peak Prosperity about a possible second shooter being in the 2nd story AGR 6 Counter sniper nest or in the rafters above. I am not going to try to nest these comments. Each commenter is separated by [….] within that comment are quotes from other commenters that are indented.
This is a photo of the interior of the AGR building showing the dropped ceiling.
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Intolerance
but on the car dash cam we can hear all 8 shots, they’re all the same, just the last 5 are much faster. if someone was inside then we would hear a major difference.
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BigTim
While I agree that the 8 shots sound the same from the car dashcam, the explanation is plainly obvious. Cars are insulated for sound, muffling the outside world to a large degree (engine noise, sirens, road noise, gun shots, etc.). This is the only video to my knowledge that the 8 shots sound similar.
Intolerance
Okay but we hear all 8 shots on multiple sources around the building. And suppressed weapons don’t leave zero trace behind, so if someone was shooting from the inside, they had to have gone above and beyond on their gear and set up inside of wherever they were hiding for there to be no trace of them visually or audibly. if they were near a vent or a window, someone surely would’ve been able to see smoke? cops clearing rooms would’ve reported smell of gun powder left behind.
As a structural builder mentioned on this forum recently the building probably has large steel trusses in the 5 or so feet above the drop ceiling which would theoretically create a cavity. If so, a clever person or team could lay planks across those trusses in which to lay prone and take shots from a concealed wall vent or other surreptitious design. It’s not far fetched, in fact it’s a reasonable scenario. In the real world, the Malvo assassin laid prone in the trunk of a sedan and fired out thru a hole above the trunk license plate.
I have argued that it would be possible for someone outside to see a flash of light but there would be ways to mitigate that, especially if one sits a good distance back from the opening. As far as “smelling or seeing smoke,” we’re talking 3 shots from under the roof where 5 shots were taken. Any unlikely observed or smelled gunpowder residue would be masked by the shots fired just above the location. I don’t think anyone would think twice searching inside, if they smelled gunfire.
See smoke? Lol. Have you ever fired a AR15? Three shots isn’t producing much “smoke.” It’s not like a raging camp fire.
If concealed well enough and a poor search conducted (steered away by the powers that be who orchestrated it) then the snipers nest could be disassembled in the following hours or days without notice especially as they controlled the entire crime scene…
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Commenter
The recordings outside the police I think have shots 1-3 all sound differently than shots 4-8. They are different in the pace, in the echo, in the spectrogram (= qualitatively to our ears), and even in the snick-boom delay.
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Commenter
Intolerance
but people come out of that building and so far no one has reported about hearing anything coming from inside the building.
Yes, people come out, but much after the shooting. And I believe those people entered after the shooting as well.
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Intolerance
BigTim
Cars are insulated for sound, muffling the outside world to a large degree (engine noise, sirens, road noise, gun shots, etc.).
Gunshots from a rifle coming from inside of a building and outside of a building would be vastly different.
Also if this 2nd shooter now shot from the inside of the building, wouldn’t someone have reported that, or noticed the un-suppressed weapon? Wouldn’t all those cops have been more cautious around the windows instead of just running by without a care in the world?
I get you want to shit on me and prove me wrong every time you comment, but you effectively made your own point make no sense at all.
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BigTim
Intolerance
Gunshots from a rifle coming from inside of a building and outside of a building would be vastly different.
I think you’re simply wrong. Cars muffle gunshots and other noises significantly.
To illustrate my point here’s a safe-for-viewing news broadcast. Cop and suspect get into a gunfight on the side of the freeway. Cop has a presumably 9mm handgun, suspect has a AR or AK longgun. These would normally sound radically different but from the dashcam recording they are indecipherable meaning I cannot audibly tell which is which.
[2 min video]
Intolerance
I get you want to shit on me and prove me wrong every time you comment, but you effectively made your own point make no sense at all.
Has zero to do with you. Don’t take it so personal. I have a level of knowledge in some areas and a background that aids in my analysis and just trying to keep this discussion reasonable and factual as best as possible. If and when I agree with you I’ll gladly say so. Thus far I largely have disagreed however.
Intolerance
Also if this 2nd shooter now shot from the inside of the building, wouldn’t someone have reported that, or noticed the un-suppressed weapon? Wouldn’t all those cops have been more cautious around the windows instead of just running by without a care in the world?
Notice several different cops point their guns at windows, duck to go under windows, do not stand in front of the windows, etc. There were reports and uncertainty about a suspicious man in a window. See CMartensons video from today 8/13. I have also posted about it. It caused a large armed team at about 6:15 to storm and clear ARG #6.
It is speculatively but entirely reasonable for a 2-person team to build a snipers nest in the hollow cavity above a S. facing room, and within the 6+ minute period unaccounted for from 6:06pm to 6:13pm, infiltrate a man to the snipers nest whilst another stands guard at the door, aim, fire 3 shots, exfiltrate, hide suppressed weapon or return it to it’s duty position. IF there was nobody else in the building and all eyes outside were on Crooks then people would likely be drawn to and conclude Crooks was the shooter.
I will repeat from what I said above, that GN’s story is a farse and implausible, we still don’t know who his partner was, why they left thier post for 6+ minutes, definitively whose blood is in the bathroom, why GN and partner were not at their post to stop Crooks or there in the aftermath, who shot Crooks and with what weapon, the ballistics and shell case testing of all 8 shots to match with the barrel rifling and extractor and firing pin, etc.
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Commenter
I’m gonna make a bold prediction: The so far unknown BC ESU/SWAT sniper will be reported as having committed suicide or had an intoxicated accident.
If this comes to pass, we can surmise he was the second shooter who knew too much and had to be suicided or accidented by TPTB
[I certainly agree with this! We have seen such ‘Clean-up’ after the Wiener laptop, Los Vegas, and Jan-6th. — GC]
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Intolerance
As a structural builder mentioned on this forum recently the building probably has large steel trusses in the 5 or so feet above the drop ceiling which would theoretically create a cavity. If so, a clever person or team could lay planks across those trusses in which to lay prone and take shots from a concealed wall vent or other surreptitious design. It’s not far fetched, in fact it’s a reasonable scenario. In the real world, the Malvo assassin laid prone in the trunk of a sedan and fired out thru a hole above the trunk license plate.
Did the shots come from inside the building or not? First you’re telling me shots are muffled, now this person could have been completely undetectable. Whatever. Either way, 8 shots were fired outside the building, that much is clear to me.
Any unlikely observed or smelled gunpowder residue would be masked by the shots fired just above the location.
How would smell of gunpowder on a rooftop mask the smell inside of the building?
I don’t think anyone would think twice searching inside, if they smelled gunfire.
What makes you say that? Why would officers clearing the building not think twice smelling fresh gunpowder inside of the building??
See smoke? Lol. Have you ever fired a AR15? Three shots isn’t producing much “smoke.” It’s not like a raging camp fire.
Yes I have. I’ve also seen different kinds of suppressors fired though that weapon system.
Some suppressors do get gassy, they expel smoke outwards. You guys are telling me there is a 2nd mystery pro assassin guy, but you can’t wrap your brain around the fact that if this person used a suppressor, we don’t know what kind, we have no idea if they were ballin’ on a budget and got something that would expel smoke, we just don’t know.
If concealed well enough and a poor search conducted (steered away by the powers that be who orchestrated it) then the snipers nest could be disassembled in the following hours or days without notice especially as they controlled the entire crime scene…
They wouldn’t have to go through those lengths if they could fire shots from inside the building and never leave a trace, like you keep implying
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BigTim
Who was IN the building? Nobody as far as I can tell from many hours of watching many videos, except GN and an unknown person (presumably his partner). So who is going to report gunshots from inside? It appears nobody was in there but those two. I speculate they made sure of it. GN kept guard at the doors while his partner climbed into the nest.
GN comes out 2 minutes post-shooting, acting EXTREMELY relaxed and too casual, overacting as it appears to me.
But isn’t his post on the 2nd floor of building 2, facing south, that he abandoned 9 minutes earlier. WHY is he down on the 1st floor. What possible, plausible reason has he left his 2nd floor post that it must be noted is literally the best overwatch position of anyone in the area to see Crooks position to stop him, shoot him, and keep the crime scene secure. What possible reason is he down on the ground floor with 20 other cops?
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Commenter
That’s a good one. To better cover a shot from inside AGR, it would be helpful to have as few people as possible just in front of AGR 6. And indeed we saw two characters shooing people away from there:
before the shooting, the pepper-haired, grey shirt/jeans guy at the start of the D Stewart video: “Off! This is no trespassing! Off!”
after the shooting, the sergeant with Butler Township, something to the effect “If you’re not law enforcement, GO!”
And if anyone was left there, like D Stewart, it would be helpful to have them distracted just before:
such as a woman riding a horse with a massive Trump flag back and forth across the southern side of AGR 6
The multiple audio evidence does have 1-3 more muffled than 4-8 (consistent with 1-3 inside), and 1-3 with a shorter snick-boom delay than 4-8 (consistent with 1-3 ~14 ft closer to Trump than 4-8).
I don’t think we need to await someone to report a shot from inside AGR 6 to consider as a credible hypothesis that 1-3 came from inside AGR 6.
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BigTim
Legit question, this has all been discussed repeatedly so at this point are you trolling us? Just throwing up nonsense now. [I left it out -GC]
Intolerance
Did the shots come from inside the building or not? First you’re telling me shots are muffled, now this person could have been completely undetectable. Whatever. Either way, 8 shots were fired outside the building, that much is clear to me. [It was originally 5 then changed to 8 later -GC]
Nobody can figure it out, that’s what we are discussing through clues and process of elimination. This is a detective type decision tree.
Crooks acted alone, yes or no. If yes, then he got extremely lucky to exploit a obvious and fatal defect in an unsecured rooftop to kill and injure during the worst security deficiency in 62 years under totally implausible circumstances.
IF No, then to what extent did the deep state allow or aid it in happening and if so, it’s more likely than not they’d have installed a professional to ensure the job was done right.
If that’s the case, there are finite locations from which the pro could fire, to maintain similar trajectory as Crooks:
Building 7 rooftop, 5 meters taller, about 250 feet behind Crooks. I’ve gone into great detail here as has someone else.
A attic vent of AGR#6 above the drop ceiling.
A tree.
There are arguments for or against each theory. Discussed in hundreds of posts now.
Intolerance
How would smell of gunpowder on a rooftop mask the smell inside of the building?
Intolerance
What makes you say that? Why would officers clearing the building not think twice smelling fresh gunpowder inside of the building??
Seriously? Extremely reasonable for room clearing pipe hitters to quickly look for suspects (e.g. man in a window), weapons, brass, etc. They aren’t doing sniff tests of rooms. They’re rushing thru with guns pointed ready for action. Easily distracted and summoned elsewhere by someone in authority after “all clear.” “Smelling” gunshots is the movies and what a detective would do, not combat laden door kickers rushing thru clearing rooms. News flash, they also aren’t doing DNA swaps or dusting for fingerprints or shoeprints either. They are there to clear rooms, eliminate threats or detain suspects. IF this theory holds correct, 3 shots taken above a false ceiling, mere feet below the roof where Crooks was believed to have fired 8 shots, would be indiscernible to a door kicker clearing rooms. Any incidental smell of gunpowder would be EASILY explained by their perception that 8 shots were just fired on the roof 10 feet above them.
Intolerance
Some suppressors do get gassy, they expel smoke outwards. You guys are telling me there is a 2nd mystery pro assassin guy, but you can’t wrap your brain around the fact that if this person used a suppressor, we don’t know what kind, we have no idea if they were ballin’ on a budget and got something that would expel smoke, we just don’t know.
I don’t know man, it’s a theory. “Gassy.” “Smokey.” It’s 3 shots. Almost no gas or smoke at all, and almost no smell. Shall we go over every suppressor on the market now? I’m pretty confident a professional sniper could select the best tool to suppress gasses and flash for this task if it played out that way. BTW, yesterday you baulked at the notion that a few thousand dollars would be expensive for Crooks yet a suppressor is “ballin” money for deep state assassin? Say wha??!!
Intolerance
They wouldn’t have to go through those lengths if they could fire shots from inside the building and never leave a trace, like you keep implying.
Oi vey. Did I say they’d never leave a trace at any time? No. So now you’re fabricating or changing information. I said there are ways to muffle sound, flashes, and the gunshot noise and smells would be effectively confused and concealed by the gunpowder on the roof above. I did not ever say “never leave a trace.” What I did say is that they control the crime scene and could alter or dispose of evidence at a later time in this scenario.
I’ll be going non-responsive unless your dialogue starts to get less troll-y and more reasonable and fact based.
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brian60221
Your comment [BigTim] helped bring something into focus for me. What seems to have happened is that GN and his partner missed a kid assembling a gun and crawling around on the roof they had overlook of, OK. But then shots ring out, and the shooter is killed, but neither GN nor his partner happen to glance out the window of their building to see the shooter lying there dead. And then he comes downstairs with his gun drawn like 90s after the shooter has been killed, and then starts running around looking for him. This is what we are supposed to believe.
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Big Tim in reply to Intolerance
Guy, I’ll repeat it for probably the 20th time on this forum. I bought my first AR15 about 25 years ago, and have owned many more since. I’ve fired untold high number of rounds thru many different AR15s. I own them in at least 3 calibers as well 223/556, 308, and 762 Tokarev (custom made). I qualified repeatedly expert and sharpshooter on the M4 many times, and went to war in OIF many times. I’m intimately familar with the platform. I have a similar history with all firearms, handguns, shotguns, rifles. I’ve been to a LOT of indoor and outdoor ranges, more than I can recite. I’ve shot unique guns most gun owners have never shot.
So with that out of the way, I know exactly what gun powder smells like, even the ammonia smell of corrosive ammo. Like what I shot on Sunday out at the range for 4 hours shooting 12 different guns, pistols, rifles, and shotguns.
Assuming the hypothesis that someone fired 3 rounds from a concealed position in the ceiling followed by someone else firing 8 rounds on the metal roof maybe 10 feet above him. There’s very little chance that a team of men clearing the building for threats would have had the presence of mind to smell these few gunshots and even if they did there’s almost zero chance they would have pinpointed that they came from a specific location inside versus just assuming they came from the rooftop where they’d also have assumed 8 rounds had been fired.
Again, these door kickers and room clearing guys, and even the cops afterwards, if they even smelled a faint smell of gunpowder, would almost certainly have assumed it was from the rooftop. These men are primarily there to find threats, not dust for evidence, pinpoint gun powder smells, etc. Notice these men cleared out and didn’t look for any evidence. That doesn’t mean a lack of evidence, it means they weren’t LOOKING for evidence. They were looking for threats.
We know I’m right. I’ll illuminate the behaviors of the rooftop door kickers. They moved Crooks’ rifle away, ziptied his hands, searched his pockets, and then stood guard. They didn’t pull out a market to circle the brass, they didn’t get down prone to check the angle of trajectory, they didn’t put down any tape to secure the area, they didn’t fingerprint him, they didn’t grab the gun serial number, they didn’t gather brass, they didn’t smell the rifle, etc. they literally secured the area and guarded it from threats. Zero detective work. Just door kicker work, of securing the area.
Furthermore, that does not even factor the possibility that a professional would use air fresheners to mask the smell. A few Glad air fresheners or a potent air spray would easily cover it.
You’ve attempted to use an analogy of a indoor gun range. I have bad news for you. Those see HUNDREDS of rounds daily. And the general smell would make it impossible to pinpoint which stall was the origin of a specific gun powder. You can generally smell gunpowder in the lobby of a gun shop from the gun range. Do you assume that a gun was fired in the lobby, or more likely it was fired in the gun range? Obviously you assume the gun range is the origin of the smell. So your analogy is bad on at least 3 levels.
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Starting HERE is a discussion of the timing of the shots 1-3 vs 4-8, types of weapons and such.
I am going to leave this discussion at that. However I am going to add a point that is NOT brought up. AGR was bought by an LLC formed by globalists in January 2023. This was JUST AFTER Trump announced his 2024 presidential bid on November 15th of 2022. 🤔
New management often does renovation to buildings after they buy a corporation. It would be incredibly easy to build the sniper’s nest in the rafters AND ADD VENTILATION in the time after the purchase and before the assassination attempt. A fan could be hard wired or battery operated. Heck I have a ventilation fan in my attic. I run it all summer. So a fan just under that metal roof, above the ceiling tiles, would not be considered uncommon.
The AGR purchase:
…March 16, 2023 /PRNewswire/ — Indicor, LLC (“the Company”) today announced that Doug Wright will join its Board of Directors and become the Company’s CEO, effective April 1.…
Agr International Inc., a provider of quality and process control technologies for plastic beverage packaging, is being purchased by
Our#futureshapers have been busy helping cities plan their future. Honeywell and Accelerator for Americajust launched the Honeywell Smart City Accelerator Program to help cities strategically plan their futures.
AGR’s management team will continue to lead the business from its Butler, PA, headquarters. AGR’s name, brands, and operational footprint will not change as a result of the transaction. The business will be led by AGR’s President, Sudha Jebadurai. — YAHOO NEWS
4:26 Beaver County CS text continued …“I’m just letting you know because you see me go out with my rifle and put it in my car so he knows you guys are up there sitting to the direct right on a picnic table about 50 yards from the exit,” he wrote of the suspicious person who turned out to be Crooks.
Around 5:10 p.m., Crooks was below the counter-snipers who were inside the AGR International building warehouse where the 20-year-old eventually climbed onto the roof and from which he fired his AR-15, the Times reported.
Now we have another person in tan knee-high shorts, that might be called “white short”, even has black shoes & Scrawny looking, just like the gunman… And he looks very out of place and nerveous at the enterence to the east side…
Another white-shorts guy was over on the west side by the retaining wall, and he hung out their long enought to interact with officers searching for the suspect…
You can see him in this image but watch his movements in the clip used in the video… Remember, he was calmly sitting at the retaining wall while others were alerting LEO’s, then as one LEO was back stepping, inches away from a spot where he’d be able to see the Gunman’s position, the guy in white shorts draws his attention to the wrong side of the cooridor between the two buildings… This brings the LEO away from a view across building 6’s north roof face… He then moves around the Uni-cop, keeping him looking down the wrong side of the gap between the buildings… This is orchestrated confusion…
On day one of this incident, when i saw that first video or the first people alert to the threat, that guy’s placement and behavior grabbed my attention as verious suspicious…
I backed off on my suspicion until i saw him draw the Unicop away from a line of visibility to the gunman… Plausible deniability and plausible excuseability are in action on either side of the building where the shooter could have been seen…
This may be the same gentleman that is seen sitting on the wall that Crooks was photographed at as Crooks is walking around the front of the south side of AGR building, (note Greg Nicols sniper riffle in window)…and i believe much later that he directs an officer towards the north to where Crooks climbed onto building 6 before the shooting occurs…that may not be included in the clip you show…(cant remember where from though)
Thanks, that adds one more picture to the collage of his white-hat-Double’s activity… The video you reference and this image make differentiating features hard to see. Your image looks to show a white hat, but not his white socks… The person in the video looks to have black socks but the head is not visible in the clip… No time-reference adds an ID challenge… I’m guessing that he’s my guy…
He was sitting on the ground at the time of the first sighting of “Guy On The Roof”…
That was posted to another podcast. I modified my initial impression when the timing of various spotings, from different videos-sources, was sorted out and corrected & discarded… But when i found this video with an apparent Distraction Dance, my suspicion returned and is climbing…
Has any bodycam footage been seen from interactions at the first sighting location, especially LEO’s contact with this guy? If not, why not??
This guys activity/movement needs to be more carefully ploted because image angle can distort relative position and proximity…
Due to my subscription level & technical limitations i may not be able to post a thorough recomstruction…
I may be getting the wrong impression from the camera angle, but him being so close to the retaining wall, and then backing up toward the venue away from the 2 story & away from what would seem to be an ideal viewing spot to the north of the gap and well west of 2-story’s west wall, seems be an intential action that may have had nefarious purpose. Or so it seems…
Your username describes something that i’d like to catch to detach from thi chaos, but escape may not be very helpful to dealing with the problem…
Thanks again.
nesum-dourma
His pants and scrawnyness caught my eye when Chris mentioned him… Put a grey shirt on him and from a distance held look like the white-pants suspect…
I used him as a carrot to draw attention to the pre-shooting west-side activity, which seems far more important than the chaos on the east after any gauntlets were already nevigated by the gunman and his vulnerable west side was successfully guarded, by possibly two people’s presence & interaction with LEO’s…
But this too may be a distraction away from the glaring non-reactiveness of officers on the west side where the gunman made his approach, and was most vulnerable as he got into final position on the north roof…
As everyone can see in the videos from the east, via overly wide angle footage that exaggertes distance, the east side observer’s vision was hindered by the sun angle…
A careful planner would take this into account and put his backdoor blocker team on the west side, right where the long-haired guy was spotted at the retaining wall…
That exaggerated distance detail needs to be strongly highlighted by influencers, because media people are making commentis about distances based on video footage which is distorted by the camera lens… LEO would have had a far better view than their cameras would provide… That disparity needs to be magnified to thwart plausible_excusibility…
Sorry about dangling that carrot…
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This guy is dressed so similarly to Crooks, he may be a decoy to draw attention away from Crooks and confuse LEOs
nesum-dourma
That’s the word i was looking for, a decoy, its exactly the impression i’m suggesting… Thnx!
The day was a hot one and this guy sat in the glaring sun as if he was a cold blooded critter trying to stay warm… Which is entirely possible, until his action drew a disruptive LEO away from a position with a clear view of the gunman while he was occupied assembling his weapon and was vulnerable…
Maybe there is another explanation… That is why raising this, in the shuffle of clues , to a higher priority may draw out the bodycam footage or an explanation about this guys intent… He drew the officer southward rather than west and north where the plane of the roof crosses his eye’s level…
I’m trying to coax John Cullen to put these details into his visual modeling program…
I don’t know how to determine if the LEO was approaching backward to the ideal location, but when i saw a guy come toward him from behind and then vear away when the cop got drawn away, i got to thinking he WAS on the right path to a neutralizer’s position, then he was taken off the scent…
Coincidental??? I think not… This is high stakes poker… A lot is riding on watching the play closely for card tricks… They are dealing off a stacked deck…
But we must not get overly suspicious, that can be used against us and it harms us spiritually…
A preliminary investigation report by Rep. Clay Higgins (LA-R) has revealed the body of Trump rally shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks is gone.
In Rep. Higgins’s report, he wrote that on August 5th, when he requested to view the body of Thomas Matthew Crooks, he was told the body of Crooks was “gone.”
The representative from Louisiana further noted that the FBI released the body to be cremated just ten days after the shooting occurred on July 13…
On top of that the FBI scrubbed down the scene removing any biological material. So there went any possibility of determining just who the shooter shown on the roof actually was. OR determining if the body shown actually had wounds from the rifle being splintered. OR if there was one or more shooters on that roof. -GC
Butler Coroners office never did the autopsy, it was shipped to an Allegany County Medical Examiner’s office. Lots of things smell in this latest update. At this point it seems iffy to even say it was Crooks who was cremated.
WIKI says Allegheny county is “… the state’s second-most populous county, after Philadelphia County. Its county seat and most populous city is Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania’s second most populous city. The county is part of the Greater Pittsburgh region of the state..” So you KNOW it is heavily Demonrat. — GC
H/T Tonawanda
However one regards Lame Cherry, her assessment of J13 is very reasonable and plausible:
The “FBI” cremating the body of purported Crooks IMO is by itself sufficient to prove their evil involvement. It is not only destruction of critical evidence, it is a means to spawn confusion and chaos by blatantly proving a murderous conspiracy, the specifc details of which will never be known.
Forcible interrogation of the “FBI” agents who caused the cremation, and the agent who performed the cremation (if there WAS a cremation), should be the starting point in working back to others involved.
I realize this will never happen. At this point we know there is no agency, organization, or persons who will have the ability to conduct an investigation even if there was a genuine intent to do so.
So we are left knowing without knowing, the daily MO of those who control us. And what are we to do, can we do?
IMO making direct accsations, regardless of the level of evidence, is a way to start. For example: “The FBI and SS were engaged in an assassination attempt to murder a political oppponent.” We are entitled to make the accusation (in part) because of the efforts to hide what happened, again regardless of the level of evidence. Under the circumstances there is at least enough to support reasonable suspicion, and that is enough.
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy
Reply to Tonawanda
Great points! Let me repeat and enhance them.
First, I want to sharpen the accusation. For a reason.
Elements within both the FBI and US Secret Service, including some in leadership positions, were engaged in an assassination attempt to murder a political opponent.
This clarity puts elements WITHIN those organizations ON OUR SIDE. They are in a position to help us obtain evidence.
Next, I want to emphasize what you are saying – that a circumstantial case exists, and that it is STRONG.
And particularly this – that the elements within FBI and USSS are behaving in ways that show classic consciousness of guilt, and are now naturally suspect by any sound perspective of law enforcement.
We need to enhance (in a kind of reversal of classic communist strategy) the perspective of a contradiction – of law enforcement being the suspect of criminal behavior. This allows the internal fight in these organizations to fester, to break into the open, and to then resolve in our favor (whatever that outcome is).
Every call from our mouth that these agencies must be destroyed makes them live longer. That contradiction is used against us, over and over. Likewise, calls that they “only need reform” – also bullshit, but a different kind.
We should not care if the organizations are reformed or destroyed – only that the infection is brought to sunlight and sterilized. Whatever happens, happens. The true fight is to reveal the evil and hypocrisy in the organizations, and to make the guilty parties pay. That is what Trump did in 2016, and it was so effective that the evil elements in DOJ and FBI went all the way with operations like VEGAS.
H/T Tonawanda
Does this remind you of the Intel Community and the Media?
…An FBI spokesperson tells Fox News Digital that any suggestion the agency is interfering with congressional efforts to look into the attempted assassination “is inaccurate and unfounded.”
The agency said that Crooks’ body was released to his family after coordination with the coroner’s office as well as state and local law enforcement partners “in keeping with normal procedures.”…
My lead candidate for blood in the bathroom was the officer who tried to get over the edge of the roof and dropped down hastily. He is said to have needed stitches. That even fits the timing of the blood in the bathroom which was discovered later.
You can go to this LINK to follow that discussion.
To me the key is the body cam footage of the officer in question. The evidence from the police body cam shows him going up on the roof. (You even see his hands) then he drops down AND RUNS TO HIS CAR, he is so upset, he has trouble opening the door (Electronic) then grabs his rifle and puts it together. (you can hear him puffing) he then goes back and CLIMBS ON THE ROOF A SECOND TIME AFTER THE SHOOTER IS SHOT. — GC
New bodycam footage shows a police officer being hoisted onto the roof to confront would-be assassin Thomas Crooks just two minutes before he opened fire on Trump and rallygoers on July 13 in Butler, Pennsylvania…
the article contains a 6:36 minute video.
~ 2:15 he gets his gun. ~ 3:50 he describes what he saw on the roof `6:00 “Hey Jessie you got me up once…”
So no he did not go and clean up.
Then there is the discussion that actually IDs the probable cop who left the blood. – GC
…One big mystery is whose blood was it in the bathroom that caused a second shooter panic to briefly ensue causing nearly every officer of every flavor to rush into the building in haste?
We can account for every person going into and out of the building through door #9 and none of them appear to be “an operator” whose hand was injured enough to leave blood all over an interior bathroom.
This mystery definitely needs to be tied up.
Another mystery centers on a dodgy-looking handoff of something that might be a gun, or it might be a door-breaching tool. It’s hard to say, but it’s on a sling. On second look, and under higher magnification, I’m going with door-breaching implement. What do you think?
Then from Higgins Report:
“…Shot nine “hit Crooks’ rifle stock” and fragmented into the shooter’s face, neck, and right shoulder area from the stock breaking up into pieces, the congressman said….”
Aubergine posted this photo of the rifle that was supposedly hit.
I saw the video by Copenhaver positioned from behind PT yesterday,
where one can actually see two people on that roof.
The original one is the person who runs across the roof, but to the left is another person deep in shadow. Under what looks like a red boom arm…under an overhang. Fairly easy to see.
I watched the video (18 sec) at the slowest speed and there is something white moving right next to the black under that red boom arm. Also according to earlier reports the leo team on the 2nd floor could not see the shooter AND were not at their post at the time of the shooting. One left to go home, one left to chase the shooter and forgot his key card ( Greg Nicol) and the third had to go down stairs to let him back in. – GC
The story about the counter-sniper leaving his post to go look for Crooks, then getting locked out, came from this X post by Benny Johnson. Johnson stated that it came from “a first-hand source of highest credentials.” Well, it turns out the story was mostly true, the timing involved was just a little off. Greg did leave the building to look for Crooks, albeit close to 2 minutes after shots were fired. He did get locked out of the building, and it appears someone let him back in along with other LEOs. The question becomes, why did that first-hand source leak that story” Inquiring minds want to know.
Commenter
Good point, a partial lie to misdirect? So this suggests that Greg Nicol was inside AGR during the shooting, and to cover this the story was planted that one ESU sniper left post to look for Crooks and the another to let him back in AGR?
One very suspicious conversation involving “bathroom” and “AGR” over phone is this is Dropbox video 7. What’s weird is the desire for secrecy:
7:22:21 Cruiser LEO: “Hey, are you still recording on your body camera?”
… silence for a good 3.5 seconds …
7:22:28: “Was.”
7:22:30: Cruiser LEO asks confused: “Hey, um, where, where, where were you at when … I thought you was in the bathroom! … Tom and Evenson were talking and you end up being up here!”
7:22:38: Cruiser LEO exclaims, “Yeah, I thought you went to the bathroom! And you said, what did you say? ‘I’m at the AGR’”!
For some reason, the Cruiser LEO does not want this conversation to be recorded. Then he wonders about why his buddy in the convo was not in the bathroom but supposedly in AGR.
@cmartenson July 29, 2024 FBI press call update of Trump’s assassination attempt at Butler, PA There is also a few questions taken from reporters at the end. Some highlights & excerpts taken from the update: seven local law enforcement officers injured either as a result of the shooting or from their actions during the initial response. identified the model of the rifle the subject used; a DPMS AR-15 style firearm designed to shoot 5.56-millimeter ammunition. the weapon was purchased…
And we still do not know who the second ESU sniper assigned to 2nf floor over-watch was – Greg Nicol has been identified, why not the other?
It’s hard to tell if all the people we see leaving AGR later in the video are the same ones who went in. If someone different were exiting, it could well be that second ESU sniper. But if he is not leaving AGR, why stay inside, especially since GN left? Could he be the one who bled?
I find it notable that the plain clothes, who had been on the western grounds of AGR 6 and would have heard and seen people pointing to Crooks with rifle on roof – and seemed so inept then – happen now to converge quickly to the eastern side of AGR 6, to know Greg Nicol and chat with him (D Stewart video), and to be among the first to rush into AGR 6 when the door opens. Why were they apparently so dismissive and inept on the west side, but on the east side so urgent and keen to go in?
Also, Chris points out that GN exits pretty relaxed (and chats relaxed with plain clothes), but then is keen to be the first back in AGR 6, even though he was not the one closest to the door. It’s almost as if he wants to clean up a scene inside before others get to it.
In one of the bodycam videos with the yellow steel fence there are three or four officers waiting in front of AGR asking to go in to clear the bldg. The doors are locked. No one says anything and they just stand there waiting for what seems like forever. Wasn’t this of enormous importance to get in? To clear the bldg? Also, I just watched 2hrs of cruiser cam footage and no officer comes over with that handful of key cards for the door. Maybe cruiser footage started afterward? If not, is Greg the only one inside?Maybe some reason not to rush in to clear the bldg? Greg casually walks out the door. I wish I had all of the footage stored so I could easily check this out.
BWC2-122117 @19:10.15s Officers…units inside have fresh blood in one of the bathrooms…fresh blood inside in one of the bathrooms…
@19:10.58 there was an opperator who injured themselves…were not sure…
@19:11.41 Trooper Graham was bleeding in that building…Trooper Graham was bleeding
@19:11.53 there was a trooper that was bleeding inside the building
This is the conversation @RealDJStew724 heard from the transmission of the Patrol officer after he had been moved from the AGR building in and was standing outside of…as seen in body cam video…
carrying on from transcript this is a reply to, from different source video.
M-500 016197
(Patrol Car Audio…that may be a different channel than officer transmissions)
@19:10.06 “13 05 officers officers units inside they have fresh blood in one of the bathrooms…theres fresh blood inside one of the bathrooms…which buildings XXX…the main building…the main big one…the main big one…we need to hold a perimeter around these buildings guys…”
@19:10.55 “the one the operator may have injured himself we are not sure”
@19:11.09 “check in on your operators for any injured and bleeding”
@19:11.20 “13 05 “i know you have probably heard it reported fresh blood in one of the bathrooms in the main AGR building…correction AGR building and then um one of you guys may have been bleeding…were double checking”
@19:11.39 “command Trooper Graham was bleeding in that building…Trooper Graham was bleeding”
@19:11.49. “There was a BSP Trooper that was bleeding inside the building”
the video i am referring to as its on @RealDJStew724 youtube page…title ” (8/9) Trump Rally (07/13/24) Butler, PA. Bodycam Footage “bwc2-1221172”
This evidence is a good video to add to the dropbox.
I think this 3:44 minute video shows a Trooper in a blue uniform injure his hand climbing the fence around the 0:45 mark. Looks to be the same white trooper, no badge, camera on left breast pocket, radio cord on left side. A FOIA for his camera would be useful if anyone is filing FOIAs to see where he went and got treatment.
It also shows SS red tie guy trapped on the stage side of the fence to show his whereabouts immediately after the shooting (and by default, immediately before/during).
We see where the black tactical collapsing ladder comes from in this clip.
We see a lot of the police officers and LEOs in black tactical gear if we need to identify whereabouts.
We also get to see a clip of the first 4 guys on the roof but nothing before that showing who arrived first and in what order or any activities prior to what we already have, essentially.
Law Enforcement Officers Struggle to Get Through Fences Amid Trump Shooting
[You can see one state trooper at the beginning of the video may have cut his hand climbing the fences because he looks at his hand at 0:46 Starting at 2:28 running in from the right is a guy in tan tactical gear carrying a collapsible ladder. At 3:16 you can see two cops, SS? in black and two in tan tactical on the roof. — GC]
Good catch! The two in your video, the PA State policeman who cut his hand on the fence along with the secret service black polo who jumped the fence, also appear in the other video posted by Chris, arriving at 6:15:00 at door 9 of AGR 6. When the PA State trooper goes in, he may soon enough visit the bathroom to address his cut and any blood.
I hope that gives you a lot to chew on for the rest of the day. I also hope it was not too confusing… I STILL HATE WORD PISS! – Gail
I have said a few times in the last couple of weeks that the Tim Walz stolen valor scandal has hit me hard and made me furious, because it is personal.
Yet I have never been in the military. I have never served in combat, been shot at, or seen a buddy die. But I was married to a man who was in the Gulf War, and I did pay a heavy, scary, and emotional price for his service.
I met my ex while he was still in the military, but no longer in a combat deployment. The Gulf War was over, and he was Stateside. Being in the Navy, he did do one more six-month tour on the seas before he got out, and we married. I got pregnant with my fourth, and last, child the week we got hitched.
From the start, my pregnancy was just “off.” I didn’t feel like I did with the first three. I was not really more sick than usual or anything, I just felt weird. Ultrasound showed a normal baby developing in there. But I just knew something was up.
About four months in, an antibody in my blood tests showed up as elevated. I was told I had a blood incompatibility with my unborn son. My immune system was rejecting him. Similar to the Rh factor problem, but 20,000 times more rare, and there was no easy way to treat it. At first, I had to have blood tests monthly to check the antibodies. The numbers got too high in the seventh month, and the tests increased to weekly. If the numbers crossed a threshold, it meant an in-utero blood transfusion.
Needless to say, I was terrified for my baby boy.
I started asking questions about my then-husband’s service in the Gulf. The existence of “Gulf War Syndrome” was at that time being talked about but denied. I was advised to call a “hotline” that was set up at the time to answer questions. I called, of course, immediately.
I was told that there were NO anomalies in pregnancies of children of Gulf War vets. That “Gulf War Syndrome” was not a thing, it was a cluster of statistical coincidences. That I could not POSSIBLY be having any type of prenatal issues that had ANYTHING to do with the Gulf War. Nothing to do with the war, they said. No way, no how.
With that, I reported back to my doctor. She continued to monitor my blood. Thankfully, the antibodies never reached that critical line requiring a transfusion into his tiny developing body. My son was born three weeks early, healthy and beautiful.
And guess what? When they tested his blood, the “incompatibility” that had caused my immune response to reject my own child DID NOT EXIST. The doctors were utterly baffled.
Whatever my body was reacting to, it wasn’t present in his blood at birth. This has never been explained to me, but within a year or two, the military had acknowledged “Gulf War Syndrome.” And they had admitted to prenatal anomalies and problems, too. It was real. I will probably never know exactly what was wrong in my case.
This whole story is my way of saying that it isn’t only soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines who suffer the consequences of war. It is wives, children, sweethearts, parents, friends, and others. And WE are offended to the very bones by someone who would PRETEND to have paid the price of a combat deployment, WE are offended by someone who would PRETEND to have given his best for the men under his command. The men who would come home and, in my case, father children who ALSO paid a price for their service. With a wife who paid, too, in fear.
Stolen Valor is craven, venal, dishonest, and immoral. “Tampon Tim” AWalz is a despicable, cowardly POS. He should not be Vice President. He should not even be a small town mayor. He shouldn’t be anything but ashamed.
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God is in Control . . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . . Keep Looking Up
Hopefully, every Sunday, we can find something here that will build us up a little . . . give us a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.
“This day is holy to the Lord your God; do not mourn nor weep.” . . . “Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet, and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared; for this day is holy to our Lord. Do not sorrow, for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”
No Weapon Will Succeed
In Isaiah 54:11–17, the prophet Isaiah delivers a message from God about the restoration of Jerusalem after its destruction by the Babylonians. The people would be in chaos and confusion, but the Lord promises a future day when the city will be more glorious than ever. God’s people will return to their land and live there without fear of further devastation: “‘No weapon formed against you shall prosper, And every tongue which rises against you in judgment You shall condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, And their righteousness is from Me,’ Says the LORD” (verse 17, NKJV).
In saying that “no weapon formed against you shall prosper,” God promises the people of Jerusalem that no enemy will be able to produce successful weapons against them. The word prosper here means “succeed.” The previous verse gives context: “See, it is I who created the blacksmith who fans the coals into flame and forges a weapon fit for its work. And it is I who have created the destroyer to wreak havoc” (Isaiah 54:16). In other words, God is in charge. He created the one who creates the weapons, and He will see to it that whatever weapons are wielded by Israel’s enemies would be ineffective against them. This promise will see its ultimate fulfillment in the millennial kingdom of Christ (see Isaiah 51).
The promise to Israel is often applied to God’s children today, as we deal with spiritual enemies. No matter what the devil devises to throw at us, in the end it will fail because God is the sovereign ruler of our destiny. He gives us the shield of faith, “with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one” (Ephesians 6:16). The Good News Translation phrases Isaiah 54:17 like this: “‘But no weapon will be able to hurt you; you will have an answer for all who accuse you. I will defend my servants and give them victory.’ The LORD has spoken.”
The primary theme the Lord wants to communicate in this passage is that God is our salvation. Even when bad things happen to us—when we feel defeated and crushed by our enemies—we can trust and not be afraid: “God is our shelter and strength, always ready to help in times of trouble. So we will not be afraid, even if the earth is shaken and mountains fall into the ocean depths; even if the seas roar and rage, and the hills are shaken by the violence” (Psalm 46:1–3, GNB). Even if our cities lie in ruins, a deadly disease wreaks havoc in the world, the economy fails, and we lose our job, the Lord Almighty is with us, and He will save us: “God is in that city, and it will never be destroyed; at early dawn he will come to its aid. Nations are terrified, kingdoms are shaken; God thunders, and the earth dissolves. The LORD Almighty is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge” (Psalm 46:5–7, GNB).
A weapon is anything designed to inflict harm. In 2 Corinthians 10:4, the apostle Paul tells us that we have been given tools to fight against our enemy, but our weapons are not ordinary armaments: “The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds.” Often, the enemy hits us with spiritual strongholds of confusion, depression, anger, anxiety, fear, temptation, and loneliness. But the Lord has given us His Word as our sword and faith as our shield (Proverbs 30:5; Hebrews 4:12), and we have His spiritual armor to protect us (Ephesians 6:10–18).
God is in command. He controls both those who make weapons and those who use them. The battle is not ours, but the Lord’s (2 Chronicles 20:15; 1 Samuel 17:47). He has already won the contest. Through Jesus Christ, He has defeated the final enemy, who is death, and purchased for us eternal life (2 Timothy 1:10; see also Isaiah 25:8; Hebrews 2:14; Revelation 1:18). The Lord will protect and uphold His children, no matter what we face, and help us through to the final victory (Isaiah 41:10). As God’s people, we can be confident in the Lord’s ultimate triumph over every enemy. In Isaiah’s time, as in all of history, and in the future in its fullest sense, every child of God can say, “No weapon formed against me shall prosper!” xhttps://www.gotquestions.org/no-weapon-formed-against-you-shall-prosper.html
Our souls are protected through Christ, our lives are not. To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. To live is Christ . . . and to die is gain. Maranatha!
This is the second article looking at the Trump Assassination Attempt. I realize the videos are a bit ‘stale.’ At this point however I am not trying to analyze the videos, I am trying to take a look at the players presenting the videos and giving you additional information to think about.
I will however add the most recent from the local LEOs plus the article from Fox that TT put up on Aug 9.
🚨 #BREAKING: Newly revealed audio captured by a Butler, PA officer’s bodycam shows the Secret Service was REPEATEDLY warned DAYS IN ADVANCE they needed to cover the roof of the AGR building.
USSS then said they’d post guys there, which was a LIE.
New footage just released helps fill in timeline moments before assassin Thomas Crooks opened fire Video shows a police officer being hoisted to the roof of the AGR building, interrupting Crooks just seconds before he started shooting.
Important Points and Times to Note in the following video:
Body cam footage starts at 18:10:30 (6:10 PM)
0:24 – The local Leo is hoisted up on the roof.
He runs to his car and by 1:22 he opens his car door assembles his rifle.
2:04 – He leaves the car with rifle.
2:15 – In the background radio says, “we have 2 civilians attending to him” so shooter has already wounded someone.
3:35 – Cops use a shed on the loading dock plus a pallet to climb up to the roof to look, while cop describes what he saw.
4:10 – Cop says, watch out he can come right down on you right there and then goes on to direct them to a different building.
4:30 – The LEOs say something about ambulance service to the stands in the background.
5:12 – You can see a cop in cameo STANDING on the roof. 5:15 – In the background radio says, “Call ambulance to VIP tent.”
5:30 – In the background radio says, “LET ME SEE YOUR HANDS.” shouted.
5:50 – Then radio says, “We have a unit on the roof.”
6:04 – You can see 3 guys on the roof.
And by 6:34 the locals have hoisted the SAME cop BACK UP on the roof after he gets his rife.
NOTICE HE DID NOT FALL, AND HE DID NOT HURT HIS HAND, AND HE DID NOT GO INTO THE BATHROOM. Also there were ALREADY cops on the roof when he got up there the second time.
🚨BOMBSHELL BUTLER, PA BODYCAM FOOTAGE 🚨
New footage just released helps fill in timeline moments before assassin Thomas Crooks opened fire
Video shows a police officer being hoisted to the roof of the AGR building, interrupting Crooks just seconds before he started shooting pic.twitter.com/kTUo5sEGXs
Police bodycam footage obtained by Fox News Digital on Thursday through a records request shows two officers attempting to intercept Thomas Matthew Crooks on a roof seconds before he allegedly tried to assassinate former President Trump at a campaign rally last month.
The footage is taken from two officers from the Butler Township Police Department who made a desperate attempt to stop Crooks moments before he fired his DPMS AR-15 rifle, striking Trump in the ear, killing Corey Comperatore and injuring two others.
“F—ing this close, bro. Dude, he turned around on me,” the officer who was hoisted can be heard saying later on in bodycam video released Thursday.
One officer can be seen hoisting another officer onto the roof where Crooks was stationed, which is about 12 feet above the ground.
Crooks pointed his weapon at the officer who scaled the building, before the officer ultimately ducks his head and loses his grip on the roof’s edge and falls about 8 feet to the ground, spraining his ankle, Butler Township Manager Thomas Knights previously told Fox News Digital.
The footage captures Crooks toward the end as officers surround his body after countersnipers fatally shot him.
“I’m f—ing p—ed. We couldn’t find him,” another officer can be heard saying in the bodycam footage.
“Before you motherf—ers came up here, I popped my head up there like an idiot by myself, dude,” the officer who was boosted onto the roof says. “Then he turned around and I f—ing dropped, and I started f—ing, I was calling out, ‘Bro, f—ing on top of the roof.’ F—ing, we’re not on the same frequency?”
Butler Township PD Lt. Matthew Pearson told a local outlet that the officer was unable to draw his weapon since he was hanging from the building.
Seconds later, Crooks opened fire and grazed Trump’s right ear. Three rallygoers were also shot, including Comperatore, 50, who was killed protecting his family from danger.
Additional footage from the Butler Township police department shows officers immediately after Crooks was neutralized…
In other bodycam video, officers are clearly confused about why the roof of the American Glass Research (AGR) building, where Crooks shot from, was unmanned.
“I thought you were on the roof?” one officer says.
“Why were we not on the roof…why weren’t we?”
—Officer in police-worn bodycam footage
“If you’d all had a gun up there … I’d have shot him. He wouldn’t have ripped out a gun up there,” one officer says in the bodycam.
“I’d say this is a f— up…somebody f—ed up.”
…The FBI previously revealed that Crooks had driven to the rally site at 11 a.m. on the day of the shooting and spent an hour there before heading home.
Crooks did not return to the scene until 3:50 p.m. Local law enforcement officers, in their designated positions, spotted him for the first time around 5:10 p.m. — approximately 50 minutes before
Trump took the stage, according to documents obtained by Fox News Digital from Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, who obtained them from the Beaver County Emergency Services Unit (ESU).
On his return to the rally site, Crooks flew a drone about 200 yards away from where Trump was going to be speaking, according to the FBI. The FBI later said that no photos or videos were taken from the drone and that the agency found no memory card in the drone…
At 5:30 p.m., local law enforcement snapped a picture of Crooks and escalated it to command.
👉“Kid learning around building we are in,” an officer wrote in a text message, along with an image of Crooks. “AGR I believe it is. I did see him with a range finder looking towards stage. FYI. If you wanna notify SS snipers to look out.”
“I lost sight of him,” the officer added.
A follow-up message said: “Call it in to command and have a uniform check it out.”
By 6:12 p.m., the “kid” would be killed by a counter-sniper
On the day of the rally, Crooks parked his vehicle and flew a drone between about 3:50 p.m. and 4 p.m. about 200 yards from where the former president would be speaking on July 13.
FBI Director Christopher Wray testified during a July 17 congressional hearing that Crooks had been at the rally site for about 70 minutes the morning of the assassination attempt.
Fox News Digital is reviewing the bodycam footage. This post will be updated.
“false flags” usually precede severe military actionand we couldn’t really imagine military action within US domestic borders since the military is not empowered to act against its own citizens.
Therefore, we decided to WAKE UP and study the false flag phenomena. Don’t presume to think this is just another conspiracy theory article. What you will read will chill you to the bone….
It looks like some lawyers are doing some digging into the ‘STANDING’ issue. I added the bold and pointers.
[QUOTE] Article III of the U.S. Constitution sets four jurisdictional limits applicable to federal courts, which can impact or limit whether a party can bring their case through the federal court system. If any of the justiciability doctrines apply to a case, a federal court cannot adjudicate, i.e., decide it. The four justiciability doctrines applicable to federal courts are as follows:
Ripeness refers to whether a party has brought a case that is too early to adjudicate. For example, suppose a plaintiff files a case regarding an injury that has yet to occur. In that case, the courts may not have jurisdiction to hear it.
Mootness refers to whether the case involves an actual controversy. For example, the case is moot if the parties enter into a settlement agreement.
The political question doctrine renders a case nonjusticiable when the Constitution vests power to address the issue in either the legislative or executive branch. 👉Courts analyze six factors when determining whether a case involves a political question. 👈
The standing requirements refer to whether the proper party filed the lawsuit. Generally speaking, a plaintiff must have a “personal stake” in a case’s outcome to have standing.
To have standing to bring suit in federal court, the plaintiff must have suffered an “injury in fact” (or is in immediate danger of sustaining an injury). This means the defendant’s actions caused the plaintiff’s injury, and the court can redress the injury.
This article describes Article III’s standing requirements. It also discusses how the Supreme Court has interpreted the requirements over time….
[UNQUOTE]
I think this the the crux of the matter:
….Over the years, our cases have established that the irreducible constitutional minimum of standing contains three elements. First, the plaintiff must have suffered an “injury in fact” – an invasion of a legally-protected interest which is (a) concrete and particularized, see id., at 756; Warth v. Seldin, 422 U.S. 490, 508 (1975); Sierra Club v. Morton, 405 U.S. 727, 740 -741, n. 16 (1972);
conjectural' orhypothetical,’” Whitmore, supra, at 155 (quoting Los Angeles v. Lyons, 461 U.S. 95, 102 (1983)).
Second, there must be a causal connection between the injury and the conduct complained of – the injury has to be “fairly . . . trace[able] to the challenged action of the defendant, 👉
and not . . . th[e] result [of] the 𝗶
I𝗻𝗱𝗲𝗽𝗲𝗻𝗱𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗼𝗳 𝘀𝗼𝗺𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝗽𝗮𝗿𝘁𝘆 𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗯𝗲𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗿𝘁.“👈Simon v. Eastern K.
Welfare [504 U.S. 555, 561] Rights Organization, 426 U.S. 26, 41 -42 (1976). Third, it must be “likely,” as opposed to merely “speculative,” that the injury will be “redressed by a favorable decision.” Id., at 38, 43.
The party invoking federal jurisdiction bears the burden of establishing these elements. See FW/PBS, Inc. v. Dallas, 493 U.S. 215, 231 (1990); Warth, supra, at 508. Since they are not mere pleading requirements, but rather an indispensable part of the plaintiff’s case, each element must be supported in the same way as any other matter on which the plaintiff bears the burden of proof, i.e., with the manner and degree of evidence required at the successive stages of the litigation…
So you would have to connect the ‘independent action’ of the shooter TO the US government ALLOWING him the opportunity to kill. It ALLOWS the FBI, DHS and Secret Service a very nice OUT, as long as you can not connect Crooks or Yerick TO the government directly. So yes, FALSE FLAGS ARE LEGAL if the US government gives bad actors the opportunity to act. As the Supreme Court has ruled before THERE IS NO DUTY TO PROTECT! LINK
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Remember the government scuttlebutt about Iran targeting Trump???
And now they have hauled out a ‘suspect’ for us to look at… HOW CONVENIENT.
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As I said in the last article, the rabbit I was chasing turned into a multi-headed hydra. I can not do the scientific measurements necessary to figure out what actually happened. We CERTAINLY can not trust the FBI or Josh Shapiro’s State Troopers to do the analysis for us. That leaves trying to figure out what happened from all the different stories that hit the internet.
RABBIT HOLE #1
THE MYSTERIOUS CASE OF THE INCREASING NUMBER OF SHELL CASINGS
Comment from: “Sifting and Winnowing”: Evidence in the False Flag Trump Shooting
This is exactly what I remember and then it was changed to 8. Yukon Jack is shouted down by the other commenters BTW.
So why five casings?
1 Trump’s ear.
2 Victim James Copenhaver
1? Victim Corey Comperatore
1? Victim David Dutch
So the FBI forgot the one that struck the railing and the one that struck the hydrolytic line. They also did not think audio analysis would be done. So voila! 8 casings. How convenient!
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RABBIT HOLE #2
THE ‘EXPLOSIVE’ COPENHAVER VIDEO
This is what was actually said by the Attorney for victim James Copenhaver: video (6:30)
At 0:35 sec to 1:20 Attorney says:
“…The first injury was to his arm.. No one knew what was going on right away…a flesh wound… he mentioned to me everyone was focused on what Trump was talking about.. and were turned to the screen… at that time he had almost heard or even seen something whiz past him which we are assuming was a bullet. He had look at his arm and kinda felt it. He did not realize he had been shot a second time, shock?, pandamonium…”Fox News Video link
Any bets that HIS phone was also confiscated by the FBI? And now everything is being filtered thru a lawyer….
I am reminded of all of Trump’s lawyers that are now being disbarred….
I am reminded of the Seth Rich family AFTER the FBI confiscated all Seth’s devices…. AND their big payoff. (Carrot and STICK.)
Why is it always FOX news that does the big pay offs. First Dominion and then the Seth Rich family. A wee bit of money laundering maybe?
I find it JUST TOO convenient to have a video of Crooks the shooter running around on the roof. It is interesting that both Mike Adams, Dr . Chris Martenson and even Wolfie were backing the classic ‘Lone Gunman’ after it first came out. And now we have the body cam footage. Please keep this question mark about this video in mind. I will be coming back to it further on.
HOWEVER if the FBI did not fiddle with the video, Commenter WSB August 3, 2024 brings up another point.
I saw the video by Copenhaver positioned from behind PT yesterday, where one can actually see two people on that roof.
The original one is the person who runs across the roof, but to the left is another person deep in shadow. Under what looks like a red boom arm…under an overhang. Fairly easy to see.
The second point of interest is the Stewart videos that are the basis of so much evidence. Dave Stewart aka Dayve Stewert aka RealDJStew724 did several videos and they are HERE.
I can not do the type of analysis Mike Adams and Dr . Chris Martenson can, however I did find a few interesting nuggets in this particular video. I put a cleaned up copy of part of the transcript at the bottom. I also included who was speaking and conversation that was not captured by the automatic transcriber.
Trump Rally – 07/13/24 FINAL Footage + BONUS! Interrogation audio!
Interesting Parts of the You Tube Transcript:
Dayve Stewert [written comment]:
I was sitting in my car, in a gas station parking lot with my front sun-shade up for about 45 minutes when I noticed a PSP trooper at my window. I started recording audio form a new phone that I bought specifically for this. When I take my sun-shade down, I see that a PSP cruiser has my car blocked in.
Starting part way into the video
Trooper: so you began this conversation saying something about a a second shooter ?
Dayve Stewert: yeah because when we were first ducking behind the uh. When they moved us all from the back of the AGR building, and Homeland Security and the other guy with the long gun moved us over to the Township police car uh to take cover there, the the door was open and we could hear the radio communications. and uh they said shooter dead on the roof and then they said uh we breach the building there’s blood in the bathroom. Second shooter on the loose. So because like if the guy climbed the building and shot from there, like how was there blood found inside of a bathroom inside that building? So there had have been a second shooter right? That got shot or something.
Trooper: um You got moved to another building by who?
Dayve Stewert: Moved to another area by Homeland Security. I got the Cuffs taken from behind me to the front by Homeland Security and then when we got moved over to Township. Township police were like Dave? And I’m like yeah, Please take These Cuffs off me and they took the Cuffs off me. And then they moved us across the street and then they were like this is even a horrible spot over here if the dude wants to shoot out the windows. Get in the trunk of our car over here and we’ll drive you to the farm show.
Trooper: Okay, So what was it that you overheard on the radio?
Dayve Stewert:That there was uh shooter dead on the roof. And then they were clearing the building and they found blood in the bathroom. And they said a second suspect at large or something like that or whatever. I don’t know but blood was found in the bathroom remember that for sure cuz that’s what had us freaked out. Because that’s what the cops are telling us . Like hey the second shooter still around here so like let’s move from this point over to this point where it’s safer. And then they’re like well it’s not safe over here. Let’s take you over here.
Trooper: So you didn’t actually see any um potential second shooter.
Dayve Stewert: No, I assume the red truck guy . Cuz what I thought was when the shots were going off. I thought it was the red truck guy shooting us for being along his fence….
As I said before this gives us a glimpse of the various players. The local LEOS, Homeland Security as part of Secret Service and the PA State Troopers. The FBI/PA State Troopers come out looking very smelly. Also we have an eye witness overhearing the locals talk about HAVING TO BREAK INTO THE BUILDING, POSSIBLY SHOOTING FROM A WINDOW, BLOOD in the bathroom, and a SECOND SHOOTER.
If the locals were the snipers WHY did they have to break into the building?
More below. Where the Trooper says the FBI say they have video of Dave talking to the shooter. Dave wants to see the video and the cop does a dance. Remember cops are allowed to LIE to you. You are not allowed to lie to them.
RABBIT HOLE # 3
JOHN CULLEN/CLAY MARTIN VIDEO ON TOMMY’S PODCAST
This is where the rabbit turns into a werebeast with lots of heads and fangs!
My starting place is the John Cullen video Multiple Shooters? | John Cullen & Clay Martin on Tommy’s Podcast.
One of the first people NAMED is Mike Glover. So a quick dig on this guy:
The showed clips from this:
Inside Information on What Actually Happened | Former SWAT and PSD Member
Mike Glover’s Fieldcraft Survival channel (25 min) He spent 20 yrs as LEO and protective Detail Member. He is a former Green Beret and CIA contractor. He says was a member of the CIA Global Response Staff Office in Islamabad Pakistan.. [See Trailer] He says he has info from friends inside the Secret Service. What really happened and who took the shot at crooks.
Partial Transcript:
….I’ll say this, whenever you’re running a security detail right, the first thing that we start with is what we call protective intelligence. And that’s before the mission even starts. You’re building protective intelligence of the area, of potential threatening people. Personnel in the area, targets that are being investigated or watched by the FBI or whatever other organization. You build protective intelligence for potential advantage points, that is attack sites Etc and then you go and do an advance generally speaking.
Now I will tell you right now, via inside information , there was not an advance done on those outer buildings due to Personnel financial and time constraints The agency, and this is where [the] fault [is]
Look people, actions have consequences and when you start dumbing down our military, dumbing down our law enforcement, creating what’s they [call] the diversity hiring standards, 👉pulling funding, cutting budgets,👈 these all have consequences. The fact of the matter is the Trump detail did request additional help, not specifically even for this event, but have been and they were denied not out of spite not out of we want to see Trump go down out of Financial and Personnel restrictions. All right, unfortunately Trump is not in the line of succession right now. So the majority of the resources of Secret Service go to those who are in the succession of the presidency. The current president, the vice president, etc etc. Now people are saying oh they they didn’t have enough support and they denied support for this event. Actually they requested additional support and they were given that by the Secret Service. This is the first time and again this is inside information this is the first time that the Trump detail actually had two counter sniper teams because they knew his movement, his visibility, his profile has been increasing, and this is the first time they actually supported with two not just one counter sniper team and I will tell you this with what we’re about to get into it it paid off and probably saved his life…
Excuse me but this Gaslighter is Full of Bull Schiff and an excellent example of a limited hangout. He gives SOME good info before he feeds you the Bull Shiff sandwich.
“… Educate you in all things preparedness virtually but that is just the beginning. Fieldcrafts tie in strategy is collaborating through physical spaces. In what we call fieldcraft fire bases and outposts. A Firebase will be a fieldcraft owned entity that will be in your backyard. Starting with Phoenix AZ, Dallas-Fort Worth TX, Denver CO, Kalispell, MT and obviously in our headquarters in Provo UT… Our business is not about monetization, it is about 👉Social Equity👈 and Capital. That is the focus for us…”
So that is the first stinky fish data point.
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Then we come to the next person mentioned by Cullen as someone he is working with, Jason Goodman.
And that is NOT just a stinky fish it is a Architeuthis Dux aka Giant Squid!
...Why was John Rupkalvis, technical genius, assigned to Jason Goodman? We have no idea. Nothing qualifies Goodman for this level of attention or training. Check out Rupkalvis’s bio: https://www.docdroid.net/RHsEGvM/stereoscope-john-rupkalvis.pdf
Anyone who has been following the Jason Goodman story and his attempts to silence a number of people on YouTube… are aware that Goodman speaks fluent Russian. He has been very active in promoting ‘fake’ intelligence agendas by interviewing ‘guests’ with questionable origins. He has had a confirmed FBI informant [George Webb??? or that worked with him to incite ‘crowd hysteria’ which actually closed down the Port of Charleston in June 2017. People need to understand that there are foreign nationals who actively support propaganda on YouTube channels….
On a side note, John Rupkalvis is also interesting. He taught at RIT. I lived in the area in the 1970s and it was WELL KNOWN locally that it was run by the CIA. (RIT had very good courses BTW. That is why I took courses there.)
From his bio, Rupkalvis, is a BIG DEAL. So why would a guy located in Burbanks CA, teach at a little known school like RIT located near Rochester NY?
WIKI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochester_Institute_of_Technology RIT has collaborated with many industry players in the field of research as well, including IBM,[87] Xerox,[88] Rochester’s Democrat and Chronicle,[89] Siemens,[90] NASA,[91][92] and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA).
University of Minnesota B.A. Degree University of Minnesota: Guest Lecturer, Video Systems U.S.C. (University of Southern California), Cinema Dept., Certificate U.S.C. Guest Lecturer, Special Effects 1982-1984 Winona School of Professional Photography, P.P.A. Certificate Control Data Institute, Computer Technology, Certificate Rochester Institute of Technology, Guest Lecturer Minneapolis Art Institute, Certificate, Guest Lecturer Bell & Howell School of Professional Cinematography, Certificate Institute for Graphic Communication, Certificate, Guest Lecturer Pasadena City College, Guest Lecturer
MORE on RIT… AND the CIA:
Co-op Coordinator, reports favorably on a 31 March recruiting visit to Rochester Institute of Technology. An impressive group of computer service and engineering students was interviewed, and six were encouraged to submit applications. Rochester Institute of Technology is one of the schools where we have enjoyed a long and fruitful Co-op relationship. – CIA Reading Room
GEE, we have the FBI confiscating phones with videos including the Copenhaver video. AND we have a disciple of a WORLD CLASS Cinematographer who has a possible CIA connection. A disciple who speaks Russian (another CIA asset?)AND he is involved with analyzing the videos. NAH, nothing fishy smelling here.
On Wednesday, we got new evidence of the potential real-world consequences as a trio of conspiracy theorists with a modest following inadvertently shut down part of one of the United States’ largest ports.
The theory: a cargo ship with a “dirty bomb” was just outside of Charleston, South Carolina…
During the broadcast, conspiracy theorist George Webb initially claimed a “source” had told him that there was “a dirty bomb planned for a major city.” …His “source” had “talked to five different sources,” he said, adding that his source “had to drive there [to meet other sources] without cell phones.” Webb went on to say of his source, “he’s been right every time.”…
George Webb Sweigert has parted ways with Crowd Source The Truth over some interesting allegations. Crowd Source The Truth was founded by Jason Goodman.
He had partnered with George Webb Sweigert and Trish Negron [aka Trish the for quite a few months. George Webb Sweigert is famous or infamous depending on your viewpoint of calling in a false alarm dirty bomb report earlier this year. He claimed that his “sources” told him a dirty bomb was on the Maersk line in Charleston, South Carolina.
This ended up being completely false. However, not too long afterwards, George Webb Sweigert was arrested not necessarily for a Driving Under the Influence charge but something similar…Now fast forward to today, and Jason Goodman claims that George Webb Sweigert was intoxicated during some of their broadcasts….Jason Goodman has direct connections to hollyweird, I mean hollywood…
Jason Goodman is now involved as Defendant in two lawsuits in the Southern District of New York. The Emmys are suing his company 21C3D for stealing their intellectual property for clicks and subs, with some defamation thrown in; and George Webb’s brother is suing him for defamation and violating New York business law with deceptive conduct involving bots and fake viewers.
The corporate suit from the Emmys forced Jason to employ a lawyer. Despite his self-positioning as a “lawfare expert” and surrounding himself with such colorful attorneys as Alan Dershowitz, Larry Klayman and the Becks, he seems to have picked another kooky A.I. guy John Hoover Snyder…
George announced that he is once again setting out on his own to continue his investigation into the Clinton criminal network, the Awan Brothers and DNC controversies.
The announcement comes on the heels of a tumultuous few weeks where the pair had been under substantial criticism for introducing a DNC thumb drive which they claimed had new information pertaining to illegal activities inside the DNC in part related to the murder of Seth Rich…
George [Webb] has dropped clues that he may be Mossad months ago when he said he was a ‘zionist’ and he was the one who said he had connections to ‘Mossad’. He revealed himself, probably to minimize the damage to his character if it were to be revealed by an outside source, so that’s not saying he’s completely honest but he has also admitted when he has made mistakes in the passed and made corrections…
AND it gets even weirder, if that is possible AND develops another head… or two or three or four!
This is written by a “…a supporter of the Pro-Trump #QAnon Information Warfare operation (aka psyop) from the beginning…” He went head to head with Bill Gates in the market place and HATES HIS GUTS!
…Jason Goodman and George Webb named their Port of Charleston LARP “Clear and Present Danger” after a Clancy/Pieczenik novel. It contained elements that Jerome Corsi had written about in his 2005 book “Atomic Iran” and narratives relating to South Carolina that Lindsay Graham had previously promoted on the Alex Jones show.
The impression I got was that Alex had to have Jason Goodman on his show to talk about topics that Jones had previously been told to stay away from. It seems like it was all part of the mission, and Alex is a loyal officer in the Info War. That’s an observation, not a criticism.
Why was Jason chosen to deliver this message from Dershowitz?
Is Goodman being groomed as the new “go to guy” for Deep State scandals? A smooth fixer who can be relied on to muddy the waters, divert the narrative in directions away from the core?
As a side note, these two articles sent me looking at possible Israeli connections.
…I held off on reporting it because, even though it claims to be disclosure, it is still written by a Rockefeller, and so, I decided caution was the best course of action when dealing with it. But I’ll present it, and you can decide for yourselves:
In his own words:
As the out-of-wedlock son of Nelson Rockefeller, I knew I could not be murdered without implicating my Uncle David Rockefeller and Donald Stralem, son of the co-founder in 1850 of Rothschild affiliate Hallgarten & Co., German-Jewish investment bankers that financed both sides in the Civil War.
Chapter 5 in his book goes into great detail about Jerome Corsi, who Mel outs as a Mossad agent…
Do not forget Steve Pieczenik (CIA) White Hat? Black Hat? whatever he is I think he is high up the 5th Generation Warfare chain.
“…Steve Pieczenik was born in Havana, Cuba of Eastern European Jewish parents fleeing the Holocaust, he was raised in France and in the United States…” LINK
NOVEMBER 1, 2016, ONE DAY LATER, perhaps relevant. On Tuesday, November 1, 2016 — a guy named Steve Pieczenik shows his face in public for the first time in 20 years. He has done radio commentary with only his 20 year old picture showing for the last 20 years — until now. He was in the intelligence community in the USA. It has long been rumored that there existed the “White Knights” — the relative good guys in the intelligence community, the military, and ex-military community. He announces, carried to millions on Alex Jones’ InfoWars.com and elsewhere, that veterans from 16 intelligence groups were undoing the coup that the Clintons were planning to pull off. He states that the counter-coup will stop Hillary from getting to the White House, that this is all being done on the internet without bloodshed, and it is an historic development, and that he was a small part of it, but had the privilege of announcing this counter-coup to the American public.
…Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik was introduced on Alex Jones’ show as a former U.S. Navy Captain, the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under Nixon, Ford and Carter, senior policy advisor under 👉Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and 👉James Baker. Also: “Dr. Pieczenik continues to consult the Department of Defense, received a 👉Council on Foreign Relations Fellowship where he was recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as deputy assistant secretary of state for management. In the position he 👉created the office of combat terrorism…
Dr. Pieczenik also stated on Jones’ show: “I was a deputy assistant secretary under Nixon, Ford…..and Carter. I resigned under Carter because I disagreed with the way he handled the hostage situation. I came back under Reagan to take down the Soviet Union and I came back under Bush, Sr. to work on Cambodia.” and “I went to Harvard and M.I.T. at the same time… I got a psychiatric degree at Harvard and a PhD in international affairs… I was trained in psychological warfare, propaganda, counter intelligence, counter terrorism — I went right into the state department working for Lawrence Eagleburger…”
It also contains a series of old newspaper clippings. One commenter in 2012 says he is concerned that Pieczenik thinks Jeb Bush would be a good president.
Dr. Steve Pieczenik, former CIA Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under five different administrations, shared the following in an urgent message to President Trump calling the current events “nothing more than a disguised coup by the CIA“. Dr. Pieczenik also claims “there is no such thing as a whistleblower in the CIA“.
Then he said this –
“There is no such thing as good Samaritan or whistleblower at the CIA. He should be fired and brought up for treason as well as any of the analysts.”
Enclosed VIDEO:
This is his Website and Youtube. His last correspondence was Oct 22, 2021 but Wiki does not show his death.
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Trump Assassination, Yearick & George Webb
Mal Antoni is tasked with transferring Twitter clips to Rumble and YouTube format due to so many who write in to Whatfinger News and complain that they refuse to view Twitter clips…
George Webb: Time to subpoena Beaver County Counter Sniper Team and Sheriff. (with decode) 3 min He mentions the blood and ladders.
The Question is, was Webb a for real investigative journalist that got played by Jason Goodman? Or is he a dis-info agent sent to muddy the waters?
Mar 12, 2017
…Accidental Journalist George Webb’s pseudonym was chosen in honor of Gary Webb, a prize-winning investigative reporter whose life was systematically destroyed after publishing his explosive Dark Alliance exposé in 1996. The series uncovered the CIA’s role in facilitating cocaine trafficking from Nicaragua to fund the Contra ‘Rebels,’ as well as the agency’s connection to the subsequent influx of crack in California’s minority neighborhoods during the 1980’s… — The Accidental Journalist: Part III by CrowdSourceTheTruth‘s Trish Negron aka Trish the Dish
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DAVE STEWART VIDEO & PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT.
someone else says HEAD SHOT…. silence
1 minute:
DAVE: [To a cop] The Secret Service guy already talked to me yeah he got my ID huh the Secret Service guy got my ID yeah the guy in the suit got my ID.
COP: Do not leave
DAVE: yeah I won’t I won’t.
DAVE: Well somebody told me to get the [ f__k ] out of here.
Cop: no you’re not going anywhere
Dave: All right yeah, Well one of your guys told me to get the [ f__k ] out of
here.
Dave to himself: Get the [ f__k ] out of here and then stay.
DAVE: Bro, I was in the middle of that [ s__t ] Up there.
Other person Dave is helping: Over my Head!
DAVE: Oh my God that’s crazy. yeah I was behind that tree right there. Get behind the tree. yep I got you bro I’m not I’m gonna stay here bro.
yep yeah yeah he wants you to stay. [To Cop] We’re staying bro we’re staying we’re we’re getting cover okay? I got your back bro don’t worry yeah don’t worry bro I got you. This is [ f__king ] crazy dude this is crazy.
Other Guy: They said he had an AK?
Dave: that’s Wild cuz it was popping off bro. Was he on that roof right there?
👉2:40: Other Guy: 👉No, he was inside.
At 3:04 shows a cop with a hand on the shoulder of a guy kneeling. he is wearing a bright yellow shirt and is holding a phone to his ear.
At 3:07-8 you hear a pop:
Other guy: Did you hear that?
DAVE: What’s that?
Cop: All of you that saw that, we are keeping you as a wittnesses.
DAVE: yeah yeah the Secret Service guy took a picture of my ID I already talked to him he told me just to get cover.
Cop: OK
DAVE to other guy: yeah yeah yeah don’t worry bro I I got your back I’m on your side don’t worry.
DAVE to cop: yeah I was just trying to get you know a picture of trump.
Other cop: Understand. Why like it’s tough to believe that right now though right.
DAVE to other guy: no no no I got you bro I got you yeah yeah I got you you’re cool we’re cool DAVE to other cop: bro I got family in law enforcement my sister’s a park ranger. yeah we’re cool military family.
Other cop:: a lot different now
DAVE to other cop: I got you situation just totally changed totally understood bro totally understood man. You got me out armed for sure I
Cop…
DAVE: I’m not even armed okay I got you yeah yeah I have a knife on me. Secret guy said it was cool. In my waistband front waistband front waistband it’s just a pocket knife bro yeah bro go cool cool
COP: You mind going to wait by the guy in the yellow shirt?
DAVE to other guy: yeah I got you bro.
DAVE to Cop: Well I figured the tree was better cover just in case dude’s still popping off man.
Cop: go go behind the vehicle then.
DAVE to Cop: [ s__t ] all right. [Walks toward vehicle]
DAVE to different Cop: all right this guy’s telling me to move over here. I got shot at too.
Cop: Are you sure?
Dave: I got shot at too. I got it on video.
Cop: Get behind this car.
Dave: yep yep.
Stranger: you a cop? you a cop?
Another Stranger to cop: No all the boys on my hockey team are Cops.
Dave to cop: I got family law enforcement too I I got yeah I’m on your side bro.
At 4:40 you can hear the police radio in the background.
Dave: That was crazy you want him he got yeah he back he’s all right yeah sir come here sir back here he’s cool he’s cool bro my friend come
5:16: Dave: Here my, friend my friend come here. [To old white haired guy walking towards Dave from near the water tower] that guy don’t listen.
5:23 you can see the water tower. it is NOT FAR.
5:33 Dave: right here right here yeah
Cop: put your phone down.
Cop 3: John I seen him come across here. I come over as fast as I could to get the guy, but he was then, he ducked over there and I couldn’t see him
Other Cop 4: on the roof?
Cop 3: We couldn’t get on the roof.
Cop 4: all right
Other Cop to person: Yeah we’re just going to clear this up I don’t know if you’re involved or
Person: I’m not involved I’m not involved.
Another voice: That guy said he was shot at in the white shirt.
Dave: I got the I got the shooting on video I got all the shots on video I was recording Trump coming out everything I got it all on video tight yeah yep he’s got video
Yeah and this guy over here in the white…
6:09 [END VIDEO portion at the Trump Rally.]
RECOVERING CELL PHONE SEVERAL DAYS LATER:
10:07 pm ON 7/18
I was sitting in my car, in a gas station parking lot with my front sun-shade up for about 45 minutes when I noticed a PSP trooper at my window. I started recording audio form a new phone that I bought specifically for this. When I take my sun-shade down, I see that a PSP cruiser has my car blocked in.
State Troopers block him in. Trooper Glasco Troop D of PA State Police is talking to him on behalf of the FBI.
8:33
Trooper: You know everything that happened that day I know someone briefly talked to you and then they kind of grabbed your phone and said hey we’ll be back to talk to you later right?
Dave: It didn’t go down like that.
Trooper: okay
Dave: yeah your one of your boys grabbed grabbed my hat off my head threw it on the ground stomped on it said get your stupid [ F__king ] hat off your head threw me to the ground made me cry and while I was crying he said why you crying you little [ b__h ] And I said cuz I they were [ F__king ] shooting at me. That little short one whatever [ F__king ] guy you have there. It was one of the plane Clothes ones that was one of three. The day after I went in there about 2 o’clock
Trooper: okay
Dave: yeah, as soon as he came out the door I walked right the [ f__k ] out.
Trooper: okay
Dave: yeah, Tell that guy he’s an [ asshole] for for me tell him yeah from me yep
Trooper: um do you do you recall like did were you actually attending?
Dave: I was at Sheetz. I was at work until 4:30
Trooper: …so when you get off work you just decided to hang out at the fence?
Dave: hell yeah
Trooper: And then you like the view so you didn’t even bother trying to get in?
Dave: No no no why yeah why why would I why would I go try to get in when I had the best one of the best seats in the house or so I thought. Turned out to be really shitty. My ears were ringing man.
Trooper: um have you heard anything I mean obviously you don’t have a TV
Dave: I haven’t had TV in 20 years that shit will rot your brain bro this is kind of a blurry photo but uh
Trooper: Do you recall seeing this guy ever?
Dave: no no. But what about the uh the red truck Guy? The one that was shooing, trying to shoo us away from the building. The one who was causing fights. Trying to fight us all like an hour before Trump arrived.
Trooper: Tell me about that
Dave: Well there was a guy in a red truck. uh Probably early to mid uh 2000s. Ford Ranger, single cab, bright red. uh White guy older 50s maybe almost 60. Salt and pepper hair, uh gray shirt, blue jeans. uh Coming up, uh telling everybody that he owned the building. uh That was his area, we were all trespassing, we needed to move away from the building. He was getting in people’s faces pointing his finger in Old guys’ faces um And then he he left pissed off got in his truck drove around the AGR building for like 20 seconds. And then drove drove back around and as he was getting out out of his truck he put something down his pants. And I ran back over to the crowd and I told them, I was like yo that guy that was just like harassing y’all? I was like he’s coming back and I think he might have a gun or something. Like this guy’s [ __ ] and uh he came back and started harassing people even more so we started waving the police down from the rally area to come down toward us toward the fence and they came down they talked to that guy…
Trooper tries to get a good description.
14:44 Dave: he said he owned the place he was claiming that he owned the place but I was talking to like this lady named Val she lives right behind the farm show she’s like I’ve lived here forever and that guy doesn’t own this place okay so he said that they all needed to leave that we all needed to leave we’re all trespassing he was just screaming ….
Trooper: who was it State Police or local
Dave: it’s on that video I videoed the interaction between that man and those police officers. I can’t believe his crowd control wasn’t sent down at that point. It was out of control ….
…
COP: Okay do you know him at all ?
Dayve Stewert: Not at all. His name or anything like that. If I recall one of the officers were asking him. Alex maybe. [He] said he owned like nine properties in the area or something like that. And then there was a different guy. The guy that I helped behind the tree whenever the shots were going off. His name was Dave. um Yeah there was a Dave. And then uh then there was like a there was a couple
Video Time: 20:49
Trooper: Do you recall uh fellow there in a bright yellow shirt?
Dayve Stewert: yeah yeah he was next to me like the neon green like traffic cone yeah yeah yeah he was a weird one too okay yeah yeah yeah he was near me he was filming too but then he quit filming and was just kind of standing there. And then there was a guy with the Gadsden American flag who said that his motorcycle was left in the area there. And he was pissed about that. I forget his name.
Trooper: so you began this conversation saying something about a a second shooter ?
Dayve Stewert: yeah because when we were first ducking behind the uh. When they moved us all from the back of the AGR building, and Homeland Security and the other guy with the long gun moved us over to the Township police car uh to take cover there, the the door was open and we could hear the radio communications. and uh they said shooter dead on the roof and then they said uh we breach the building there’s blood in the bathroom. Second shooter on the loose. So because like if the guy climbed the building and shot from there, like how was there blood found inside of a bathroom inside that building? So there had have been a second shooter right? That got shot or something.
Trooper: um You got moved to another building by who?
Dayve Stewert: Moved to another area by Homeland Security. I got the Cuffs taken from behind me to the front by Homeland Security and then when we got moved over to Township. Township police were like Dave? And I’m like yeah, Please take These Cuffs off me and they took the Cuffs off me. And then they moved us across the street and then they were like this is even a horrible spot over here if the dude wants to shoot out the windows. Get in the trunk of our car over here and we’ll drive you to the farm show.
Trooper: Okay, So what was it that you overheard on the radio?
Dayve Stewert: That there was uh shooter dead on the roof. And then they were clearing the building and they found blood in the bathroom. And they said a second suspect at large or something like that or whatever. I don’t know but blood was found in the bathroom remember that for sure cuz that’s what had us freaked out. Because that’s what the cops are telling us . Like hey the second shooter still around here so like let’s move from this point over to this point where it’s safer. And then they’re like well it’s not safe over here. Let’s take you over here.
Trooper: So you didn’t actually see any um potential second shooter.
Dayve Stewert: No, I assume the red truck guy . Cuz what I thought was when the shots were going off. I thought it was the red truck guy shooting us for being along his fence.
Trooper: Yeah um, you don’t know who the red truck that guy’s name is or anything?
Dave: Hell no if I knew I’d I’d tell you. His pictures on the video I got a closeup of his face.
Trooper: Oh that guy? So there was some uh surveillance footage that indicated you and um uh the subject might have communicated at one point. you recall that at all?
Dave: What??
Trooper: Yeah
Dave: No way let me see it.
Trooper: I don’t have it with me.
Dave: Well [ f__k ] Well have somebody text it to you!
Trooper: okay
Dave: I want to see that [ __ ] yeah are you serious. I was within the inches from this guy?
Trooper: Potentially.
Dave: No way! Wow. Not only was I like a feet from the muzzle I was [ __ ] inches from from the [ f__king ] guy beforehand. Good Lord I’m going down in the history books my friend good [ F__k ] God damn it this sucks. what this is blowing my mind right now bro. Holy [ s__t ] I can’t believe you just told me that. Oh my God. yeah So great, if I couldn’t already sleep now, you lay that on me oh my god.
Trooper: Do you have a way of us getting a hold of you?
Dave: no well however you found me now do that again.
Trooper: So, so, They would like for you to come to the FBI building in Pittsburgh at 10 to pick your stuff up.
Dave: All right I’ll be there I’ll be there.
Trooper: um you’ll just go to the gate and talk to the security guard tell them, tell them that you were told to come there 10:00 a.m.
Dave: God damn it man, I don’t even know if I’m going to be able to sleep. To fall sleep until two [ s__t ] now that you told me that [ s__t ] oh my God ah at 10:00 a.m. Really?
Trooper: Okay, all right, all right give me a few minutes here.
Dave: this is [ f__king ] crazy bro. Ah man
Trooper: At Least you’ll get your stuff back tomorrow though….
Dave: So um yeah 10 a.m. okay did you get that video?
Trooper: What video?
Dave: The video of me being near the dude. I want to see that dude, I want to see that…. well when can I come see it? Can I come up to the barracks tomorrow too after I hit up the FBI I want to see that.
Trooper: it’s not at the barracks
Dave: oh who has it?
Trooper: I don’t, I don’t know, I don’t know if it was on, if the FBI has it.
Dave: I’ll ask them yeah yeah for sure for sure that’s crazy…..
What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?
Speaker Johnson: A Reminder.
And MTG is there to help make it stick.
January 6 tapes. A good start…but then nothing.
Were you just hoping we’d be distracted by the first set and not notice?
Are you THAT kind of “Republican”?
Are you Kevin McCarthy lite?
What are you waiting for?
I have a personal interest in this issue.
And if you aren’t…what the hell is wrong with you?
Lawyer Appeasement Section
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We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.
And remember Wheatie’s Rules:
1. No food fights 2. No running with scissors. 3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone. 4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns. 5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded. 5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty. 6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy. 7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire. 8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.
Lots of motion going nowhere awfully fast for gold. Silver is just getting hit hard, and should by all logic be a bargain today. Palladium has actually gone above platinum a few times this week, but took a hard hit on Friday and is now below platinum…which again, is on fricking sale lately.
The SteveInCO Federal Reserve Note Suckage Index (FRNSI) stands at 117.633-. (This index is the ratio between the price of gold today, versus the value of the dollar defined as dollars per ounce when we had the gold standard, minus 1 (so that an index of 0 means the dollar is at its original value and doesn’t suck at all). I use that clumsy phrasing because the dollar was defined as a certain amount of gold, such that an ounce of gold was $20.672. It’s a subtle distinction. One ounce of gold wasn’t worth $20.672 back then, it was $20.672.)
OH BOY!!! This rabbit I was chasing took a hard turn and became a multi-headed hydra. Therefore I am going to split my research into several different interconnected articles.
This first article is all about MOTIVATION. The FIB is scratching their head saying they have no idea of what the MOTIVATION was. 😆
Well as far as I can see there were two interconnected ‘motives.’
First we will do a quick look at the immediate motivation. Political Ambition.
Colonel Christopher L. Paris, a native of Lackawanna County,
was nominated by Governor Shapiroto lead the Pennsylvania State Police…
Commissioner Paris is a 1998 magna cum laude graduate of the University of Scranton, a 2004 graduate of Temple University Law School, and a graduate of the 267th session of the Federal Bureau of Investigation National Academy. He has passed the Pennsylvania and New Jersey bar exams and is an active member of the Pennsylvania Bar
Col. Christopher Paris (2023) was confirmed by the Pennsylvania Senate…SOURCE: https://www.pa.gov/en/agencies/psp/about-psp/leadership.html
Welp, there is your Shapiro, state trooper and FBI tie ins. 😆
To go along with this is a tidbit from Dave Stewart aka Dayve Stewert aka RealDJStew724. VIDEO.
The PA State Troopers block him in on the evening of July 18th. Trooper Glasco, of Troop D of the PA State Police, is talking to him on behalf of the FBI. Dave recorded the audio of the interview.
Partial transcript from the video:
Occurrence at 10:07 pm ON 7/18
I was sitting in my car, in a gas station parking lot with my front sun-shade up for about 45 minutes when I noticed a PSP trooper at my window. I started recording audio from a new phone that I bought specifically for this. When I take my sun-shade down, I see that a PSP cruiser has my car blocked in.
Starting at 8:33 minutes in the video:
Trooper: You know everything that happened that day. I know someone briefly talked to you and then they kind of grabbed your phone and said hey we’ll be back to talk to you later right?
Dave: It didn’t go down like that.
Trooper: okay
Dave: Yeah, One of your boys grabbed. Grabbed my hat off my head. Threw it on the ground, stomped on it said get your stupid [ F__king ] hat off your head. Threw me to the ground made me cry and while I was crying he said why you crying you little [ b__h ] And I said cuz they were [ f__king ] shooting at me. That little short one whatever [ f__king ] guy you have there. It was one of the plain clothes ones that was one of three. The day after I went in there about 2 o’clock.
Trooper: okay
Dave: yeah, as soon as he came out the door I walked right the [ f__k ] out.[So the aggressive one was a state trooper. – GC]
Trooper: okay
Dave: yeah, Tell that guy he’s an [ a–hole] for for me tell him yeah from me….
[later in the video] I got the Cuffs taken from behind me to the front by Homeland Security and then when we got moved over to Township. Township policewere like Dave? And I’m like yeah, Please take these Cuffs off me and they took the Cuffs off me….
At 18:29: I mean like people were showing me pictures on their phone when we were like in the interview room at the farm show likeeverybody else had their phones. Everybody else was like looking up the news media… [So the a–hole State Trooper specifically targeted Dave Stewart.]
So at least one of Josh Shapiro’s State Troopers who was there that day was a Trump Hater AND from the sounds of it TARGETED Dave because he was videoing the shooting. 🤔
Wolfie suggested MK Ultra but I think hatred and political advancement work just as well. It certainly worked during Jan 6th. And those who were a problem? Well there is always suicide and accidents.
According to WIKI as of 2023 there were 4,740 state troopers so there were plenty to choose from.
Governor Shapiro engaged directly with the Biden Administration and detailed Pennsylvanians’ concerns in order to save approximately 1,300 jobs.
DOE listened to Pennsylvania’s concerns…
Sounds like a wee bit of a BRIBE to me.
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FBI
THE FBI IS OPENLY TARGETING @realDonaldTrump SUPPORTERS AS “MAGA EXTREMISTS”. 🚨🚨🚨
“The federal government believes that the threat of violence and major civil disturbances around the 2024 U.S. presidential election is so great that it has quietly created a new category of… https://t.co/2wch5G3JtKpic.twitter.com/pfy1GWL29b
THE FBI IS OPENLY TARGETING@realDonaldTrump SUPPORTERS AS “MAGA EXTREMISTS”.
“The federal government believes that the threat of violence and major civil disturbances around the 2024 U.S. presidential election is so great that it has quietly created a new category of extremists that it seeks to track and counter: Donald Trump’s army of MAGA followers.” Our government is not only WEAPONIZING the FBI/DOJ against political opponents, they are shifting focus to YOU & ME. If you SUPPORT TRUMP, you are now “MAGA EXTREMIST” ENEMY NUMBER ONE. The timing is UNCANNY…
Just yesterday, I personally filed a RELEVANT LANDMARK $25 MILLION DEFAMATION LAWSUIT against the Anti-Defamation League (ADL).
THE ADL TRAINS THE FBI. From 2014: “Did you know ADL trains every new FBI agent on their role as protectors of the American people and the Constitution?”
The federal government believes that the threat of violence and major civil disturbances around the 2024 U.S. presidential election is so great that it has quietly created a new category of extremists that it seeks to track and counter: Donald Trump’s army of MAGA followers.
The challenge for the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the primary federal agency charged with law enforcement, is to pursue and prevent what it calls domestic terrorism without direct reference to political parties or affiliations—even though the vast majority of its current “anti-government” investigations are of Trump supporters, according to classified data obtained by Newsweek….
HEGELIAN DIALECTIC is a framework for GUIDING THOUGHTS and ACTIONS into CONFLICT that then LEADS to Synthetic Solutions – which can only be introduced once those being MANIPULATED take a SIDE that will advance the PRE-DETERMINED AGENDA.
Its a form of CONTROLLED OPPOSITION – Problem – Reaction – Solution or what today should more appropriately be called – CRISIS – CONFLICT – CONTROL.
In summary you are deliberately presented with two extremes of a subject – a Thesis and its Antithesis …forcing you to CHOOSE a side in direct conflict with the other. ( Left – Right, Red – Blue, For – Against etc)
The Solution – the SYNTHESIS of the CONFLICT is already prepared waiting for you all to choose it.
Disabled Navy veteran John Sabal, founder and President of The Patriot Voice, has filed a $25M lawsuit against the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) alleging defamation and injurious falsehood.
The ADL listed Sabal in its “Glossary of Extremists” which includes known terrorists Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Dylann Roof, and Brenton Terrant, the Christchurch Shooter
While the organization claims ADL’s goal is to “fight all forms of antisemitism and bias, using innovation and partnerships to drive impact,” it has increasingly been accused of partisanship smears against targets on the political right….
…The bill defines antisemitism broadly, incorporating definitions provided by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA), including traditional antisemitic actions and accusations such as those against the state of Israel. Critically, the bill makes it an offense to “apply double standards” to Israel or to accuse it of genocide, categorizing such actions as hate speech…
It passed with a vote of 320-91, seeing opposition from 70 Democrats and 21 Republicans….
Gateway Pundit missed the REAL goal of that bill but the ACLU nails it.
Members of Congress last month introduced the “Anti-Semitism Awareness Act.” The bill purports to address a real problem: According to the FBI, incidents of hate crimes motivated by anti-Jewish bias have significantly increased in recent years.
But anti-Semitic harassment is already illegal under federal law. The new bill does not change that fact, but its overbreadth makes it likely that it will instead silence criticism of Israel that is protected by the First Amendment.
The proposed legislation, for example, defines speech that applies a “double standard for Israel,” or denies “the Jewish people their right to self-determination,” as evidence of anti-Semitism. It also directs the Department of Education to consider such speech in its investigations, which could result in a loss of federal funding for schools. On Monday, the ACLU sent a letter to Congress opposing the bill….
This bill is not at all surprising given a lot in Congress want another war. Also Thomas Massie mentioned, in a Tucker Interview, how powerful the AIPAC Jewish Lobby is onCapitolHill . The bill will certainly make sure people ‘choose’ the ‘Correct PRE-DETERMINED HEGELIAN SOLUTION.’
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THE BROADER MOTIVATION
I agree with Matt Ehret and GhostofBasedPatrickHenry (Gordon.) You have to look at history to understand the present.
By this time I hope we all understand the Cabal LOVES war. It meets several of its primary goals:
* Depopulation
* Wealth Transfer from the subjects to the elites.
* Removal of Alpha Males before they can breed. (Note lawyers and teachers were exempt from the ‘Nam draft…)
* Destruction of infrastructure, the middle class and even civilizations.
The Cabal set-up a situation that would ENSURE never-ending war after WWI & WWII. Colonel Roxane Towner-Watkin pointed this out in one of her videos. When the Ottoman Empire was carved up and Europe was ‘re-organized,’ the Cabal MADE SURE that ethnics that hated each other were grouped together in the same nation. This allows for never ending turmoil. The Cabal can take advantage of this turmoil by staging Color Revolutions, if a country’s leadership starts getting out of their control. Heck we can see them doing it in real time in Europe and now in the USA and Canada. The Cabal is doing it to us by IMPORTING groups like Muslims that have ZERO in common with us.
This is the video on SitRep with War_Hamster and Colonel Towner-Watkins
Partial Transcript: 1:05 minutes to 7 minutes, Gladio in a nutshell:
After WWII FAULT LINES via nation states were created so with the pick-up of a phone you could say, Hey we need to destabilize this particular area...”
It is WAR on DEMAND… after WWII over 75 governments have been destabilized if not coupped. Op Gladio was re-named ‘Color Revolutions’ to hide how long it has been in operation. (Late 1800’s at least) Brits did fault likes post WWI and NATO Post WWII. They manufactured artificial nations including groups that were not compatible on purpose to allow destabilization….
NGOs are controlled by Intel community.…
They use students and media hypes the stories…
10 minutes: They will have paramilitary forces on stand by. The last step is to send in the paramilitary….
11 minutes: AS YOU SAW IN INDIANA UNIVERSITY THEY HAD SNIPERS ON THE TOP OF THE BUILDINGS THERE.
We also know that POTUS Trump HATES war and was working to eliminate it. One of his critical moves was the “Abraham Accords.” Interesting that while Bibi and MBS were in negotiations, Hamas was ALLOWED to attack Israel. 🤔
The reason for the IDF allowing the attack was to scuttle Trump’s Abraham Accords since the Abraham Accords would stifle their long term goals for a greater Israel.
The former Israeli prime minister admitted for the first time that the Saudi Crown Prince played a significant role in the signing of several normalization agreements between Israel and some of the Arab states, known as the ‘Abraham Accords’. Iran Press/
Middle East: Israeli media relayed the appreciation of the leader of the Israeli opposition, Benjamin Netanyahu, to Saudi Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman (MBS), for his contribution to the completion of the four so-called “Abraham Accords”.
Netanyahu said that in case he assumes leadership once again, then he intends to achieve full “peace agreements” with Saudi Arabia, as well as with other Arab states…
Speaking to this paper on the sidelines of the Synergia Conclave in Bengaluru, Passig said the Hamas attack was against the emerging power blocks in the world
…Israeli scholar, futurist and best-selling author Prof David Passig. He called the October 7 attack a “turning point in the history of the Middle East”.…
In September, Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman had for the first time publicly acknowledged that his country was moving “closer” each day towards normalising relations with Israel and called it “the biggest historical deal since the Cold War”…
Colonel Towner-Watkin and Ghost, have mentioned the radicals in Israel are on the ascent.
[…]a very radical Messianic Movement created by Meir Kahane has emerged in Tel Aviv, and out of political desperation, Netanyahu has been forced to appoint several of them to his inner circle—the Security Cabinet. I also shared that Kahane and his followers have identified Christians as their mortal enemy, along with Muslims. But they have also demonstrated aggression in the past against fellow Jewswho did not conform to their worldview. —GhostofBasedPatrickHenry
The situation in Israel is causing infighting on the left and the right, as the gears of the war machine grind steadily on — RYAN DELARME NOV 02, 2023
The Israel-Palestine conflict is the latest narrative in the war of stories and is serving multiple strategic purposes. Aside from fueling the war economy and having a divisive effect on the American public, it is also being used as a pretext to bolster the Western censorship regime…
Given that POTUS Trump and the Abraham Accords were the first step leading to a two state solution, Iran would be more in support of Trump than Biden.
…Under the Abraham Accords, the UAE and Bahrain will normalise their relations with Israel and expand engagements in politics, security, trade and connectivity. More Arab states are expected to ink similar agreements with Israel, while some countries such as Saudi Arabia have said they stand with the Palestinian people and sought a comprehensive solution to the Palestinian issue….
April 17, 2024 — The administration pays lip service to a two-state solution while blocking every possible avenue toward that goal.
Recent initiatives by the Palestinian government to revive their application for UN membership are putting to the test the U.S. claim that it supports a “two-state solution” — a Palestinian state on at least some portion of the West Bank and Gaza Strip alongside a secure Israel. In practice, however, the Biden administration and Congress have been working hard to ensure that that does not come about.
The State of Palestine was declared in 1988 and has since been recognized by 140 countries. The Palestinian Authority (PA), the recognized Palestinian government, controls most of the urban areas in the West Bank with some limited administrative control of larger areas, though Israel controls security for most of the territory it initially seized in 1967, and its armed forces routinely enter even the nominally PA-run urban areas with impunity….
Remember it was while Saudi Arabia and Israel were in negotiations, that Hamas was ALLOWED to attack and kill Israeli citizens.
…At its core, Operation Gladio is a generic term for the concept of Strategy of Tension. This strategy encompasses the Fabian Society concept of creating chaos or tension in order to implement control—their control of the world’s citizenry….
…Did you know there were primarily two distinct mafia/mobster networks operating in the United States in the early 1900’s.
One consisted of Italian mafia families that had emigrated to America. They settled primarily in New York and Chicago and focused on trafficking liquor during prohibition, gambling, and prostitution.
The second were Jewish mobsters like Louis “Pretty” Amberg, Moses Annenberg (newspaper/media for Hearst Corp), Abe Bernstein (Purple Gang), Mickey Cohen (Los Angeles), Meyer Lansky (formed the National Crime Syndicate focusing on Cuba and Las Vegas), and Benjamin “Bugsy” Siegel (New York and Las Vegas).While they were into all the same crime syndicates as the Italian mobsters, they also were used by large business enterprises that needed assistance in making things happen—for example, dock workers, newspapers, bankers, etc.
Mickey Cohen (1914-1976)
Meyer Lansky (1902–1983)
Benjamin “Bugsy” Siegel (1906–1947)
The mafia and mobsters didn’t disappear after World War II; much of their activities were folded into the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). The prohibition era liquor networks gave way to drugs like heroin and cocaine, with the profits being used to fund covert functions of Operation Gladio, with prostitution transformed into human trafficking networks, the funds being used for covert operations as well. Lastly, in order to keep this operation protected and to provide weapons to the stay-behind-units, a weapons trafficking network was incorporated into the CIA.
As you will see, the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) provided the wartime transition necessary to encapsulate the mission realignment. It worked out well for everyone involved, since the United States Congress gave the CIA sweeping powers and protection.
The previously illegal activities were allowed to carry on with a cloaking of invisibility due to a convenient CIA stamp: “NATIONAL SECURITY”….
The term “Greater Israel“ has been a contentious and debated concept related to the State of Israel and its territorial boundaries. This article explores the controversial idea of a “Greater Israel” and the various interpretations surrounding it. The concept of a “Greater Israel”, according to the founding father of Zionism Theodore Herzl, is a Jewish State stretching “from the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates.”
The idea of a “Greater Israel” is a complex and controversial concept that does not represent an officially recognized plan for the region. While it has its proponents, it also faces criticism and opposition, particularly in the context of peace efforts in the Middle East. The boundaries and future of the State of Israel continue to be a subject of ongoing debate and negotiation, with the aim of achieving a peaceful resolution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict…
Various international efforts and peace negotiations have aimed to address the complex territorial and political issues involved. The “Greater Israel” concept is not aligned with the goals of these negotiations, which typically seek to establish a two-state solution with an independent Palestine alongside Israel.
The above map, is in my opinion, at the core of the current mess in the Middle East. POTUS Trump and the Abraham Accords would put a stop to achieving this ambition. Getting the USA into a war with Iran by assassinating POTUS Trump and then convincing MAGA that Iran was the culprit, would advance the Radical Messianic Movement’s pursue of their ultimate goal of a ‘Greater Israel’ AND give the Cabal the war they want.
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Hopefully, every Sunday, we can find something here that will build us up a little . . . give us a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.
“This day is holy to the Lord your God; do not mourn nor weep.” . . . “Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet, and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared; for this day is holy to our Lord. Do not sorrow, for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”
Webster’s Unabridged Dictionary REPENT 3. (Theol.) Defn: To be sorry for sin as morally evil, and to seek forgiveness; to cease to love and practice sin. Except ye repent, ye shall likewise perish. Luke xiii. 3.
For seemingly forever, I’ve thought that “repent” means to turn away from sinning. A few days ago, following up on the thought of man’s inability to stop sinning, I looked to Strong’s Greek Concordance to find the meaning of the Greek word translated as “repent”. I found the Greek word translated as “repent” actually meant more like “to change your mind or your way of thinking” rather than the action of turning away from sin.
Strong’s Concordance 3340 metanoeó metanoeó: to change one’s mind or purpose Original Word: μετανοέω Part of Speech: Ver Transliteration: metanoeó Phonetic Spelling: (met-an-o-eh’-o) Definition: to change one’s mind or purpose Usage: I repent, change my mind, change the inner man (particularly with reference to acceptance of the will of God), repent.
REPENT
Many, perhaps most, understand the term repent to mean “to turn from sin.” Regretting sin and turning from it are related to repentance, but are not the precise meaning of the word. In the Bible, the word repent means “to change one’s mind.” The Bible also tells us that true repentance will result in a change of actions (Luke 3:8–14; Acts 3:19). In summarizing his ministry, Paul declares, “I preached that they should repent and turn to God and demonstrate their repentance by their deeds” (Acts 26:20). The short biblical definition of repentance is “a change of mind that results in a change of action.”
What, then, is the connection between repentance and salvation? The book of Acts especially focuses on repentance in regard to salvation (Acts 2:38; 3:19; 11:18; 17:30; 20:21; 26:20). To repent, concerning salvation, is to change your mind regarding sin and Jesus Christ. In Peter’s sermon on the day of Pentecost (Acts chapter 2), he concludes with a call for the people to repent (Acts 2:38). Repent from what? Peter calls the people who rejected Jesus (Acts 2:36) to change their minds about that sin and to change their minds about Christ Himself, recognizing that He is indeed “Lord and Christ” (Acts 2:36). Peter calls the people to change their minds, to abhor their past rejection of Christ, and to embrace faith in Him as their Messiah and Savior.
Repentance involves recognizing that you have thought wrongly in the past and determining to think rightly in the future. The repentant person has “second thoughts” about the mindset he formerly embraced. There is a change of disposition and a new way of thinking about God, about sin, about holiness, and about doing God’s will. True repentance is prompted by “godly sorrow,” and it “leads to salvation” (2 Corinthians 7:10).
Repentance and faith can be understood as two sides of the same coin. It is impossible to place your faith in Jesus Christ as the Savior without first changing your mind about your sin and about who Jesus is and what He has done. Whether it is repentance from willful rejection or repentance from ignorance or disinterest, it is a change of mind. Biblical repentance, in relation to salvation, is changing your mind from rejection of Christ to faith in Christ.
Repentance is not a work we do to earn salvation. No one can repent and come to God unless God pulls that person to Himself (John 6:44). Repentance is something God gives—it is only possible because of His grace (Acts 5:31; 11:18). No one can repent unless God grants repentance. All of salvation, including repentance and faith, is a result of God drawing us, opening our eyes, and changing our hearts. God’s longsuffering leads us to repentance (2 Peter 3:9), as does His kindness (Romans 2:4).
While repentance is not a work that earns salvation, repentance unto salvation does result in works. It is impossible to truly change your mind without changing your actions in some way. In the Bible, repentance results in a change in behavior. That is why John the Baptist called people to “produce fruit in keeping with repentance” (Matthew 3:8). A person who has truly repented of sin and exercised faith in Christ will give evidence of a changed life (2 Corinthians 5:17; Galatians 5:19–23; James 2:14–26).
To see what repentance looks like in real life, turn to the story of Zacchaeus. Here was a man who cheated and stole and lived lavishly on his ill-gotten gains—until he met Jesus. At that point he had a radical change of mind: “Look, Lord!” said Zacchaeus. “Here and now I give half of my possessions to the poor, and if I have cheated anybody out of anything, I will pay back four times the amount” (Luke 19:8). Jesus happily proclaimed that salvation had come to Zacchaeus’s house, and that even the tax collector was now “a son of Abraham” (verse 9)—a reference to Zacchaeus’s faith. The cheat became a philanthropist; the thief made restitution. That’s repentance, coupled with faith in Christ.
Repentance, properly defined, is necessary for salvation. Biblical repentance is changing your mind about your sin—no longer is sin something to toy with; it is something to be forsaken as you “flee from the coming wrath” (Matthew 3:7). It is also changing your mind about Jesus Christ—no longer is He to be mocked, discounted, or ignored; He is the Savior to be clung to; He is the Lord to be worshiped and adored. xhttps://www.gotquestions.org/repentance.html
“The time has come,” he said. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!”
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God is in Control . . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . . Keep Looking Up
Hopefully, every Sunday, we can find something here that will build us up a little . . . give us a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.
“This day is holy to the Lord your God; do not mourn nor weep.” . . . “Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet, and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared; for this day is holy to our Lord. Do not sorrow, for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”
Reviled and Rewarded
Surprised at the “wonderful” drag show diversity so thoughtfully included in the opening ceremony for the Olympics? We shouldn’t be. Not at all! It’s to be expected as part and parcel of the current liberal/woke, globulist worldview. Out of the dark shadows and into the light where anyone who seeks after righteousness can easily see it . . . and learn . . . and not forget.
The primary audience for Christ’s Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5:1—7:29) was the twelve disciples. Others came and listened, but the Lord’s principal intent was to teach His closest followers—the twelve men who were set apart for leadership in God’s kingdom (see Matthew 19:28; Revelation 21:14). These apostles would be the ones to experience the fiercest persecution. To address this concern, Jesus concluded His opening Beatitudes with this wonderful assurance: “Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you” (Matthew 5:11–12, ESV).
The disciples were about to undergo unprecedented persecution under the cruel Roman Empire. Indeed, throughout history, faithful followers of Christ have faced intense oppression and persecution (2 Timothy 3:12; Philippians 1:29). The Lord knew that His kingdom leaders and faithful servants would need to maintain an eternal perspective. The Beatitudes provide this hope—they assure us that, no matter how much suffering and hardship we endure for Christ’s sake, we can be confident that our reward in heaven will be great.
Honor, blessing, and recompense in heaven are not promised simply as payment for injustices suffered in this life but specifically for “those who are persecuted because of righteousness” (Matthew 5:10). God has a special prize set aside for believers who are insulted, mocked, punished, and treated unfairly because of their stand and testimony for Jesus Christ. These are Christians who eagerly practice kingdom righteousness and suffer for it.
Such kingdom servants are like the prophets of the Old Testament who “were jeered at, and their backs were cut open with whips. Others were chained in prisons. Some died by stoning, some were sawed in half, and others were killed with the sword. Some went about wearing skins of sheep and goats, destitute and oppressed and mistreated. They were too good for this world, wandering over deserts and mountains, hiding in caves and holes in the ground” (Hebrews 11:32–38, NLT; cf. Hebrews 11:26; see also Acts 7:51–53; James 5:10). For all who suffer abuses similar to those of the prophets of old, Jesus promises indescribable rewards in heaven.
Jesus isn’t just encouraging His most loyal “movers and shakers” to endure persecution but to “rejoice and be glad” in it. Despite their temporal hardships, these servants possess the most distinguishing qualities of kingdom servants. They have the radical courage to let their “light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven” (Matthew 5:16). They are brave enough to endure suffering at the hands of their King’s enemies and still rejoice (see Acts 5:41; Romans 5:3, 2 Corinthians 12:10; Hebrews 10:34; James 1:2; 1 Peter 4:13). In fact, they are willing to lose everything, even their very lives, to gain the kingdom of heaven (Revelation 12:11).
The apostle Paul’s lifestyle exemplified that of a kingdom servant. He considered everything of value in this temporal life as worthless compared to the “surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them garbage, that I may gain Christ and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ—the righteousness that comes from God on the basis of faith. I want to know Christ—yes, to know the power of his resurrection and participation in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, and so, somehow, attaining to the resurrection from the dead” (Philippians 3:7–11).
As Christians, we should expect the world to hate us (Mark 13:13; 1 John 3:12). But if we live as devoted kingdom servants, partaking in Christ’s suffering because of our identification with Jesus, our reward in heaven is great: “For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all” (2 Corinthians 4:17). The apostle Peter affirmed, “Dear friends, do not be surprised at the fiery ordeal that has come on you to test you, as though something strange were happening to you. But rejoice inasmuch as you participate in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed when his glory is revealed” (1 Peter 4:12–13). Our present suffering is not even worth comparing with the glories of heaven (Romans 8:18).
The Bible is abundantly clear that God rewards our faithfulness to Him (Genesis 15:1; Ruth 2:12; Proverbs 13:13; Psalm 18:20; Luke 6:35; Colossians 3:24). Jesus Himself promises the “victor’s crown” for those who suffer persecution (Revelation 2:10). Our reward in heaven is great when our desire to live righteously is intense and determined—when our testimony for Christ shines so brightly that the enemies of God’s kingdom are driven to extinguish its brilliance. xhttps://www.gotquestions.org/great-is-your-reward.html
