DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20211230

That painting of Washington Crossing the Delaware has been popping up on key threads and accounts. Why? Good question.

Let us begin with one of our own:

Gail Combs

Gail Combs(@gailcombs)OnlineWolverine Reply to  Gail Combs December 29, 2021 09:22

In the same vein…

Scott 467 said to wolfmoon a couple days ago:

Wolfmoon:

We want somebody to trust who is not God. Not sure that’s wise.

Scott 467

….We know who enough of the bad guys are, that we have a general idea of who and what the enemy is (e.g., gov’t leaders, Big Tech CEOs, WEF people, Big Pharma, U.N., etc.)

We know who the bad guys are because of their own words and because of their actions, and long history of both.

The problem we face, is that we don’t have ANY IDEA who the good guys are, with the (hopeful) exception of DJT and DeSantis, Navarro and…?

The problem with not knowing WHO the good guys are, is that it raises the realistic prospect that there may not BE any good guys, at least not enough to make any difference.

We see the enemy legions, we hear their words, and we experience their evil deeds, every day of the week.

Where is the counterbalance to that?

[crickets]

There isn’t one.

There is lots of hopium and guru narrative, but there is precious little in the way of evidence.

Maybe that lack of evidence is by design….

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It has become obvious that this matter has to be addressed.

What has been the matter over the last century?

People have IGNORED POLITICS they allowed out government to coast along and do as it wished and that was to gather more and more power and enslave the people more and more.

Even if POTUS trapped and convicted ‘The Deep State’ within the US government, that would not CURE THE DISEASE!!!

What is the disease?
An apathetic uninterested and IGNORANT citizenry.

Bill Ivey to John Podesta

From:bi@globalculturalstrategies… [Bill Ivey]

To: john.podesta@….

Date: 2016-03-13 17:06

Subject: From Bill Ivey

Well, we all thought the big problem for our US democracy was Citizens United/Koch Brothers big money in politics. Silly us; turns out that money isn’t all that important if you can conflate entertainment with the electoral process. Trump masters TV….

but what we are dealing with now is dead serious. How does this get handled in the general? Secretary Clinton is not an entertainer, and not a celebrity in the Trump, Kardashian mold; what can she do to offset this? I’m certain the poll-directed insiders are sure things will default to policy as soon as the conventions are over, but I think not. And as I’ve mentioned, we’ve all been quite content to demean government, drop civics and in general conspire to produce an unaware and compliant citizenry. The unawareness remains strong but compliance is obviously fading rapidly. This problem demands some serious, serious thinking – and not just poll driven, demographically-inspired messaging.

Rubio’s press conference yesterday AM was good and should be repeated in its entirety, not just in nibbles. I will attend the Clinton fundraiser here next week but as I can only afford the low level of participation may just get to wave without a “hello.”

I fear we are all now trying to navigate a set of forces that cannot be simply explained or fully understood, so it is and will reamin interesting!

Sent with a handshake, Bill

The Tea Party was a partial awakening but Mr Global moved on several fronts to neutralize the Tea Party.

  • Grifters sucked up the contributions LINK

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
So POTUS serving eight years, with a corrupt Media, Congress, Senate and Admin opposing him every step of the way, would just set Mr Global back a bit BUT WOULD NOT CURE THE DISEASE.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Scott says:

Where is the counterbalance to that?

[crickets]

There isn’t one.

And that is because we are LOOKING AT TRUMP and missing what is happening on the ground.

➡ Running for School Board to take back our schools
➡ Filling empty precinct positions to take over the GOP
➡ Becoming Poll Watchers (as was done in Virginia)
➡ Going after voter fraud using a multi prong attack
➡ going after Big Pharma, Fauci, & the Clot Shot World wide
➡ Poland and Hungary telling the EU to go F…K themselves

Trump is waving the red flag in front of Mr GloBULL while the Picadores and banderilleros harass Mr GloBULL with actions, facts and lawsuits.

CRICKETS???   :wpds_lol:   You have just not been paying attention.

END OF GAIL’S POST

And from GAB:

Another perspective to consider before condemning the man who risked everything to save not just this nation, but humanity.

Forwarded from ArchiveAnon ⭐️⭐️⭐️

More and more Trump is boxing the left into a corner where they have only three options:

1) Keep claiming there is nothing wrong with the vaccines, in which case Trump makes sure they own the mishandling of the pandemic moving forward. They can try to play the “It’s the unvaccinated’s fault” angle all they want. That’s not a winning message when Trump is doing the exact opposite and EMBRACING the vaccinated under a big tent. The more we restore election integrity moving forward, the more the left are going to need the unvaccinated to vote for them if they ever want to win elections again.

2) Blame the ineffectiveness of the vaccines on Trump in order to blame the current mishandling on him, in which case the entire left must shift to a narrative of distrust of the vaccines (which is what we actually want anyway.) Fauci is currently trying to ride the fence on this one by saying Trump “poisoned the well” on vaccines and that’s why they are ineffective, but again, this won’t work. They desperately needed him to oppose the vaccines, and he never took the bait. The more Trump doesn’t budge on the vaccines, the more the left will be forced to acknowledge the problems with the vaccines if they want to continue to be able to use it to attack him.

3) Try to pivot away from the pandemic narrative entirely by taking the “Hurray, mild Omicron is killing off the other variants, looks like the pandemic is coming to an end” layup that has been handed to them on a silver platter. This would force them to abort Operation Lockstep years before they wanted to, and mean that they would have to move on to the next phony crisis on their list in order to sell the public on the Great Reset. Most likely the “Cyber Pandemic” narrative is next, as that’s what they keep chattering about.

If they fail to to sell the public on the Great Reset by utilizing the Lockstep virus narrative, which it increasingly looks like they have, at least in the Western world, they will most likely cut their losses and choose option 3; “OMG, Omicron saved the day everybody!”; which is what I think Trump is trying to force them to do: Cut their losses and move on to the next fake emergency. I think Trump would be more than happy if Covid becomes such a radioactive topic for everyone involved that it’s not even an issue people want to talk about by the time 2024 rolls around.

In President Trump’s own statements about Joe Biden’s “achievements in 2021” brought to us by TrumpIsMine, there is this:

That would have been a better statement than the ones President Trump has been making on the topic, but optics have to be maintained, not for the red pilled, but to crush the other side.

And a word about the times in which we are living.

And, please, no matter what happens to “fix 2020” or not, DO NOT refuse to vote in 2022. That plays into the other side’s hands.

My sentiments for the end of 2021:

GOODBYE, and don’t come back.

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One of the obstacles to full understanding of just what the enemy is all about revolves around the concept of symbolism.

Well, in nosing around looking for sauce on a future post having to do with communism and twentieth century American Literature (yes, most of it was communist crap), I came across a tidbit that the Sisters who taught Language Arts at my high school kind of skipped.

William Faulkner’s Snopes Trilogy.

Yes, that word actually comes from American Literature, and would be known to the over-educated fact checking crowd as being a character with not so nice features:

“The insidious horror of Snopesism is its lack of any kind of integrity–its pliability, its parasitic vitality as of some low-grade, thoroughly stubborn organism–and its almost selfless ability to keep up pressure as if it were a kind of elemental force. These are Flem’s special qualities. The difficulty of fighting Flem and Snopesism in general is that it is like fighting a kind of gangrene or some sort of loathsome mold. The quality of honor–even a mean and rancorous ‘honor’–would immediately make it vulnerable…. It is because he lacks honor that Flem is really invulnerable…. It will therefore be only the madman, the outlaw, or the passionate man who can strike him down…. Flem is a kind of monster who has betrayed everyone, first in his lust for pure money-power, and later in what Faulkner regards as a more loathsome lust, a desire for respectability.”–Cleanth BrooksFrom the Hardcover edition.

How dare we who lived through dumbed down education question the fact checkers!

Oh, and just as a bonus:

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LUKE 2:36-40

36And there was a prophetess, Anna, the daughter of Phan’u-el, of the tribe of Asher; she was of a great age, having lived with her husband seven years from her virginity, 37and as a widow till she was eighty-four. She did not depart from the temple, worshiping with fasting and prayer night and day. 38And coming up at that very hour she gave thanks to God, and spoke of him to all who were looking for the redemption of Jerusalem. 39And when they had performed everything according to the law of the Lord, they returned into Galilee, to their own city, Nazareth. 40And the child grew and became strong, filled with wisdom; and the favor of God was upon him.

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DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20211223

I don’t know where I found this, but just about any media can be used to create beauty.

Coming soon….

About being “woke” (I first typed that wok. Wrong decade.)

Well, one guy who isn’t bored said this in an interview with the Babylon Bee podcast:

The interview itself covers a broad range of topics that are most interesting and the science people among us might enjoy his discussion on space travel, alternative energy, etc. (It was great background noise for various activities. My mother had the radio, I have internet videos.) Disagreeing is fine, but it is amazing that this guy built two very valuable companies out of nothing.

Another video came up, and while the conversation is difficult to hear, it is a bit of a gut check to see James O’Keefe in a bullet proof vest.

These people are putting their lives on the line for us, just not the way the other side wants us to.

What we need to remember.

Speaking of…this wouldn’t work:

Because of this.

Maybe this is why so many are willing just to lay down and surrender to the tyranny.

More memes as Twitter was a COVID ghetto, and I’m starting my COVID fast.

Well…..

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One of the obstacles to full understanding of just what the enemy is all about revolves around the concept of symbolism.

Short answer:

The three gifts are mentioned throughout the Bible and are ubiquitous in Moses’ story  — gold for the Ark of the Covenant and the Temple’s altar, tabernacle and decorations; frankincense to purify the temple and myrrh to anoint sacred people and objects.  

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  1. No food fights
  2. No running with scissors
  3. If you bring snacks, be sure they are made with bacon

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MALACHI 3:1-4, 23-24

31“Behold, I send my messenger to prepare the way before me, and the Lord whom you seek will suddenly come to his temple; the messenger of the covenant in whom you delight, behold, he is coming, says the LORD of hosts. 2But who can endure the day of his coming, and who can stand when he appears? “For he is like a refiner’s fire and like fullers’ soap; 3he will sit as a refiner and purifier of silver, and he will purify the sons of Levi and refine them like gold and silver, till they present right offerings to the LORD. 4Then the offering of Judah and Jerusalem will be pleasing to the LORD as in the days of old and as in former years. 45“Behold, I will send you Eli’jah the prophet before the great and terrible day of the LORD comes. 6And he will turn the hearts of fathers to their children and the hearts of children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the land with a curse.”

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JP is on a roll.

He really shouldn’t give them any ideas.

Hey, red hen Jen:

DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20211216

Happy fifteenth birthday a day late to our beloved Ying, the rotten dog who got the whole house up at four thirty in the morning.

How are we all holding up?

Yeah, me too.

Okay, so, two different QTreepers posted this video on Wednesday, so, the third time being the charm, here it is again just in case you missed it:

In the rush to question the thirty percent principle, the larger picture was kind of sidelined: the conservative ecosystem. The other side calls it an echo chamber, but the truth is starting with Rush Limbaugh on radio, and then the development of the first conservative chat site Free Republic (still going strong after twenty-five years), conservatives were finally able to find each other in the age of the internet. Prior to that, you could be sitting next to one on a trans-Atlantic flight and not know it.

There are far more of us than not, and as more and more websites and social media platforms run by patriots, not the alphabet soup agencies, popped up and continue to pop up, a much larger network, an ecosystem, is solidifying in the space that the legacy media used to occupy.

That has the other side scared to death.

No longer is the truth buried in the periodicals in a library with stacks of hard bound journal volumes. Nope. Now it is online, and can go from a hush hush secret to a full blown viral meme in far less time than a news cycle would occupy.

The truth can no longer be truly censored even if they’re still trying to do so.

https://twitter.com/P_McCulloughMD/status/1471140861413105670

Not sure where he landed.

Is it just me, or does this look like Uncle Joe is in front of a green screen?

Don’t forget.

There’s a lot of reasons to give J.K. Rowling the side eye, but this is not one of them.

And belittling real men while they are at it.

The phrase “for the greater good” is so being misused.

Because “for the greater good” is going to end up here:

And more of this is going to happen:

https://twitter.com/trump4_america/status/1471135098628194309

Although, in Paris, the enforcers of the mandates bring their own camera booms.

Score another for the conspiracy crowd:

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1470903531548733440

Wanna know how the Rockefellers got into the propaganda business? This thread walks the reader through the history without the mind-numbing rhetoric I read in college.

LANGUAGE WARNING! But, still, Make-a-Wish Foundation is on the naughty list after watching this.

And the question of the day:

It always boils down to that.

And, finally, I meant to put this in yesterday’s daily. On Tuesday, MonkeyWerx did a breaking SitRep that’s worth considering since things are heating up with Russia and Ukraine. He goes into it on his Wednesday SitRep as well.

Carlin:

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One of the obstacles to full understanding of just what the enemy is all about revolves around the concept of symbolism.

We will return to symbolism at a later date.

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Be careful in expressing thoughts as we would all like to think well of the rest of the group, and ill-thought out comments have a way of wrecking that for everyone.

Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights
  2. No running with scissors
  3. If you bring snacks, be sure they are made with bacon

Auntie DePat’s requests as we are all supposedly adults and don’t just play them on TV like the body doubles pretending to be the squatter in chief:

If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.

The scroll wheel on your mouse can be your friend. As mature adults, please use it here in the same manner you would in avoiding online porn.

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ISAIAH 54:1-10

1“Sing, O barren one, who did not bear; break forth into singing and cry aloud, you who have not been in travail! For the children of the desolate one will be more than the children of her that is married, says the LORD. 2Enlarge the place of your tent, and let the curtains of your habitations be stretched out; hold not back, lengthen your cords and strengthen your stakes. 3For you will spread abroad to the right and to the left, and your descendants will possess the nations and will people the desolate cities. 4“Fear not, for you will not be ashamed; be not confounded, for you will not be put to shame; for you will forget the shame of your youth, and the reproach of your widowhood you will remember no more. 5For your Maker is your husband, the LORD of hosts is his name; and the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer, the God of the whole earth he is called. 6For the LORD has called you like a wife forsaken and grieved in spirit, like a wife of youth when she is cast off, says your God. 7For a brief moment I forsook you, but with great compassion I will gather you. 8In overflowing wrath for a moment I hid my face from you, but with everlasting love I will have compassion on you, says the LORD, your Redeemer. 9“For this is like the days of Noah to me: as I swore that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth, so I have sworn that I will not be angry with you and will not rebuke you. 10For the mountains may depart and the hills be removed, but my steadfast love shall not depart from you, and my covenant of peace shall not be removed, says the LORD, who has compassion on you.

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Um, JP, some of do give a $#!+ about swimming. And, yeah, those times are outrageous for the women’s side.

DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20211209

Well, here we are. It’s Thursday.

With all of the bickering and infighting of he said this, this one said that, blah blah blah, leave it up to Praying Medic to get to the bottom line.

Praying Medic
The attack on General Flynn succeeded in one of its goals—the creation of division among anons. That anons are considered a high value target implies that our community is a powerful force in the information war. Despite the temporary setback, anons have, for the most part, come back together and are once again working toward the common goals of disseminating the truth and destroying the deep state.

Many people have been planted in our movement as sleepers. They pretend to be on our side, but when instructed to by their handlers, they turn against us. The tactic being used at present is an attack against someone with a large following. Typically, the target’s words are twisted or taken out of context and they’re made out to be a villain.

Because our unity poses a threat to the deep state, we will continue to see these attacks on high-profile people. Another attack is coming.

If you wanted to leave a herd of sheep defenseless, would to consider taking out the sheepdog—the one who continually warns the flock of danger?

The more you know.
🐑🦮t.me/praying_medic/7273150.6KviewsDave Hayes, Dec 7 at 14:36

There is a lot of speculation that the next target will be President Trump himself, but we’ll have to wait and see.

Please, consider the backgrounds of those doing the attacking. Patrick Byrne, Glenn Greenwald and Patrick Bergy are all “converts.” They are the ones publicly doing the pot stirring. Individual anons and influencers jump on the bandwagon each of them confects according to their own likes and prejudices, thus creating discord and division.

Just remember what PM says: we, as a movement, are dangerous to THEM. They want us fractured. Don’t give them the satisfaction.

Alright on to other business.

Congrats, James.

Yes, we figured this one out. And now the normies are figuring it out too.

Excellent.

Message from our sponsors.

Although, the other side is still trying to keep the people in the dark.

[GASP] COVID scandal.

https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1468651246705913866

Carlin:

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One of the obstacles to full understanding of just what the enemy is all about revolves around the concept of symbolism.

Symbolism actually evolved in Christianity prior to the splintering of the Faith in the west in the sixteenth century Anno Domini, and the rich tradition of said symbolism is one of the aspects of the culture that was destroyed along with a lot of stained glass windows, altar stones, and other art work when the revolt happened.

From the Gospel According to St. Matthew, Chapter 3:

[16] And Jesus being baptized, forthwith came out of the water: and lo, the heavens were opened to him: and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove, and coming upon him. [17]And behold a voice from heaven, saying: This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

The dove is pretty obvious.

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Be careful in expressing thoughts as we would all like to think well of the rest of the group, and ill-thought out comments have a way of wrecking that for everyone.

Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights
  2. No running with scissors
  3. If you bring snacks, be sure they are made with bacon

Auntie DePat’s requests as we are all supposedly adults and don’t just play them on TV like the body doubles pretending to be the squatter in chief:

If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.

The scroll wheel on your mouse can be your friend. As mature adults, please use it here in the same manner you would in avoiding online porn.

Thank you so much for any and all attention to such details. It is GREATLY appreciated by more than one party here.

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ISAIAH 41:13-20

13For I, the LORD your God, hold your right hand; it is I who say to you, “Fear not, I will help you.” 14Fear not, you worm Jacob, you men of Israel! I will help you, says the LORD; your Redeemer is the Holy One of Israel. 15Behold, I will make of you a threshing sledge, new, sharp, and having teeth; you shall thresh the mountains and crush them, and you shall make the hills like chaff; 16You shall winnow them and the wind shall carry them away, and the tempest shall scatter them. And you shall rejoice in the LORD; in the Holy One of Israel you shall glory. 17When the poor and needy seek water, and there is none, and their tongue is parched with thirst, I the LORD will answer them, I the God of Israel will not forsake them. 18I will open rivers on the bare heights, and fountains in the midst of the valleys; I will make the wilderness a pool of water, and the dry land springs of water. 19I will put in the wilderness the cedar, the acacia, the myrtle, and the olive; I will set in the desert the cypress, the plane and the pine together; 20that men may see and know, may consider and understand together, that the hand of the LORD has done this, the Holy One of Israel has created it.

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DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20211202

So, let’s see what happened on Wednesday….

https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1466080121488654351

From These Truths:


TheseTruths
(@thesetruths) Coyote December 1, 2021 15:13

Gateway Pundit, from https://100percentfedup.com/breaking-supreme-court-justice-terrifies-pro-abortion-left-with-one-opening-question/:
BREAKING: Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas Terrifies Pro-Abortion Left With ONE Opening Question

Before Justice Scalia’s death, Thomas went 10 years without asking a question during proceedings. This week, Thomas broke his usual silence to ask a question that has pro-abortion activists livid.

” Does a mother have a right to ingest drugs and harm a pre-viable baby? Can the state bring child neglect charges against the mother? “ he asked. The Supreme Court is currently reviewing a Mississippi law that would ban nearly all abortions after 15 weeks. 

If the Supreme Court were to uphold Mississippi’s ban on abortions after 15 weeks, it would lead to abortion bans across the country. The pro-abortion Guttmacher Institute estimates that 26 states would impose further restrictions on abortion or outright bans. It’s no wonder the left is terrified of Justice Thomas.

Given all the warnings on booze bottles, when a glass of wine sometimes is recommended to keep women from going into labor early, it’s a good question.

Even Russia is now restricting in-utero infanticide now. We’re better than this, America.

https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1466096135127420933

From American Thinker:

December 1, 2021

Don’t Let Them Scare Your Freedoms Away

By Paul Krause

…The problem with the new fear campaign over the omicron variant is the further degradation of liberty and Constitutional rights already manifesting because of it.

As the new Cold War with China ratchets up, the Western world has dealt the cards against themselves. The trumpet of freedom and liberty cannot be sounded without charges of hypocrisy and hollowness as we witness the supposedly free democratic world, especially in places like Australia and New Zealand (not to mention the United Kingdom and Europe), engage in the some of the most vicious and tyrannical lockdowns in the world. These lockdowns, restructuring of government power and control over businesses and individuals, aim at one thing: the remaking of our relationship to the state.

What the totalitarians who have weaponized the coronavirus fail to acknowledge is that they have politicized the virus, not conservatives, libertarians, and the few remaining civil liberals who are concerned with the aggressive and militant overreach of the federal government and medical institutions.

The new totalitarians assert those of us who wish to keep the flame of liberty and the human spirit alive of politicizing the virus. Shame is their calling card. The claim that liberty-loving and defending individuals have weaponized the virus for political purposes doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.

Yeah….

This is a problem isn’t it. The number of people who were in my dorm in college who did not know how to do laundry was appalling.

I recommended a video on Tuesday’s daily, and really, I don’t know that I can spin a whole post on it, but here it is.

The Ghislaine Maxwell section, and the looking at Guantanamo Bay flights that are HIGHLY unusual, like the Director of Homeland Security going down there, starts at 16:27. However, there is interesting information ahead of that mark. Yes, Monkey does a lot of speculating and connecting dots, but there’s information on TerraMar, the detention camps nationwide (there are thirty-seven), the court docket at GITMO, federal prisoner numbers and location designations and more.

It’s worth a watch, and remember that what Monkey brings is what someone out there wants us to see. There are enough masked flights, and transponders turned off in mid-flight in what he presents to raise some eyebrows.

Let’s see….

https://twitter.com/chieftalkbull/status/1466024917862813697
https://twitter.com/q_professor/status/1466037500451774466

^^^^^THIS^^^^^

https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1465810957268140044

I love kids with an innate knowledge of creative problem solving.

Carlin:

And now, to remember an evening in 1983 when half of the swim team showed up at one of the Southern Maryland town’s two movie theaters to watch Rocky III. No, it was not planned that way. Just a happy accident.

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One of the obstacles to full understanding of just what the enemy is all about revolves around the concept of symbolism.

Symbolism actually evolved in Christianity prior to the splintering of the Faith in the west in the sixteenth century Anno Domini, and the rich tradition of said symbolism is one of the aspects of the culture that was destroyed along with a lot of stained glass windows, altar stones, and other art work when the revolt happened.

We’ll pick this up next week with the Trinity. It’s a fairly meaty topic when it comes to that.

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And now for the business portion.

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Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights
  2. No running with scissors
  3. If you bring snacks, be sure they are made with bacon

Auntie DePat’s requests as we are all supposedly adults and don’t just play them on TV like the body doubles pretending to be the squatter in chief:

If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.

The scroll wheel on your mouse can be your friend. As mature adults, please use it here in the same manner you would in avoiding online porn.

Thank you so much for any and all attention to such details. It is GREATLY appreciated by more than one party here.

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MATTHEW 7:21, 24-27

21“Not every one who says to me, `Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 24“Every one then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house upon the rock; 25and the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat upon that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. 26And every one who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house upon the sand; 27and the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell; and great was the fall of it.”

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New twist on an old experiment. The set-up takes seven minutes, but result is explosive.

DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20211118

https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1461030627206127618

The meme and Tweet progression will speak for itself.

About the decline in Church attendance, and even believing in God, let alone one specific belief system….

This has been making the rounds. I’m not sure anyone should toss an AR-15, though.

Carlin:

And now, to remember an evening in 1983 when half of the swim team showed up at one of the Southern Maryland town’s two movie theaters to watch Rocky III. No, it was not planned that way. Just a happy accident.

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One of the obstacles to full understanding of just what the enemy is all about revolves around the concept of symbolism.

Symbolism actually evolved in Christianity prior to the splintering of the Faith in the west in the sixteenth century Anno Domini, and the rich tradition of said symbolism is one of the aspects of the culture that was destroyed along with a lot of stained glass windows, altar stones, and other art work when the revolt happened.

From last week:

More on the symbols of Christ Himself next week. (There are a number.)

Alright, here we go. From the Apocalypse, Chapter 1:

[7] Behold, he cometh with the clouds, and every eye shall see him, and they also that pierced him. And all the tribes of the earth shall bewail themselves because of him. Even so. Amen. [8]I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, saith the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.

We start with the Greek as the VERY early Church used it quite a bit along with Aramaic and Latin.

The Alpha and Omega are fairly obvious and do appear entwined sometimes, but not on Tabernacles and the gates to Sanctuaries. On those Church features, they appear separately.

The Chi Rho, the first two Greek letters in the name Christ, appears, usually, by itself. The symbolism is obvious here, and that symbol has been used as long as the Ichthys from last week had.

When Latin became far more prominent in the Church, the MONOGRAM began to appear.

The letters IHS are the first in each word of the Latin phrase, Iesus Hominum Salvator, or, Jesus, Man/Mankind’s Savior. The place most people encounter the Monogram is in the Seal of the Jesuits, along with the nails of the cross, and the cross itself.

The sunburst motif became popular somewhere around the Renaissance, and it still appears in the form of Monstrances, although of late, the newer ones tend to look like the reliquaries they are. At any rate, Christ is the center of the universe is where that goes.

“Saying with a loud voice: The Lamb that was slain is worthy to receive power, and divinity, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and benediction.”
Apocalypse (Revelation) 5:12

The Paschal Lamb is pretty obvious.

From the Medieval Bestiaries comes a different symbol.

The stag is a symbol for Christ, Who tramples and destroys the Devil. Early bestiaries describe the stag as a relentless enemy of snakes. The stag was believed to pursue snakes into their holes or rock crevices, flushing them out by flooding the hole with the breath or water from its mouth, and devouring them.

https://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/f022-Stag.htm

Interestingly enough, this is the symbol that the other side appropriated.

Harry, the supposed “chosen one” throws the Petronus charm to ward off the evil spirits, and it takes the form of a silver stag.

The other side is not original at all.

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Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights
  2. No running with scissors
  3. If you bring snacks, be sure they are made with bacon

Auntie DePat’s requests as we are all supposedly adults and don’t just play them on TV like the body doubles pretending to be the squatter in chief:

If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.

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MATTHEW 14:22-33

22Then he made the disciples get into the boat and go before him to the other side, while he dismissed the crowds. 23And after he had dismissed the crowds, he went up on the mountain by himself to pray. When evening came, he was there alone, 24but the boat by this time was many furlongs distant from the land, beaten by the waves; for the wind was against them. 25And in the fourth watch of the night he came to them, walking on the sea. 26But when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were terrified, saying, “It is a ghost!” And they cried out for fear. 27But immediately he spoke to them, saying, “Take heart, it is I; have no fear.” 28And Peter answered him, “Lord, if it is you, bid me come to you on the water.” 29He said, “Come.” So Peter got out of the boat and walked on the water and came to Jesus; 30but when he saw the wind, he was afraid, and beginning to sink he cried out, “Lord, save me.” 31Jesus immediately reached out his hand and caught him, saying to him, “O man of little faith, why did you doubt?” 32And when they got into the boat, the wind ceased. 33And those in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.”

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DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20211111

We’re there, folks.

There’s some good writing out there right now, but on Wednesday, what took center stage was the Kyle Rittenhouse trial and the basic rights violations going on.

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1458487908810125313
https://twitter.com/ImDavidNC__/status/1458515007658987530

The memes write themselves.

Well, alrighty then. Anatomy of a Murder, and A Few Good Men Aside, this is highly informative on the finer points of the law.

https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1458466708893667336

Well…since they DID jail January 6 people, and the whole Buffalo Jump thing happened, the American people are using other venues to display their displeasure.

It’s not the way the rest of the world does it, but it’s effective…and it ticks off Bob Costas (BONUS!). (For personal reasons regarding Costas going back decades, this is delicious. Yes, in a former life I knew his first wife.)

It’s a question none of the “protected” (as if we were talking about birth control and/or sunscreen) want to have to answer.

Put too many bored engineers in a room, and this happens.

Lemme guess…an old phonebook and a Sears Roebuck catalog? Or was that just Aunt Bernice? (Well, she was a cousin, but there was an old phonebook in the outhouse.)

And for the self righteous anti-conspiracy snob who turns off the volume when My Pillow ads come on (you know who you are, not that you would stoop to hang out here):

If all the Irish spoke like this, the world would be a better place.

Carlin:

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One of the obstacles to full understanding of just what the enemy is all about revolves around the concept of symbolism.

Symbolism actually evolved in Christianity prior to the splintering of the Faith in the west in the sixteenth century Anno Domini, and the rich tradition of said symbolism is one of the aspects of the culture that was destroyed along with a lot of stained glass windows, altar stones, and other art work when the revolt happened.

I’ve been collecting examples of symbolism, so as to better inform readers here what those symbols are, how to spot them, and what they mean. Rather than a big, long post I thought I would bring this history to the Thursday threads as they always seem to get short shrift.

A request was made to explain the symbolism of the fish, so…..

From the Gospel According to St. Matthew (and the first chapter of St. Mark, actually) Chapter 4:

[16] The people that sat in darkness, hath seen great light: and to them that sat in the region of the shadow of death, light is sprung up. [17] From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say: Do penance, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. [18] And Jesus walking by the sea of Galilee, saw two brethren, Simon who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea (for they were fishers). [19]And he saith to them: Come ye after me, and I will make you to be fishers of men.[20] And they immediately leaving their nets, followed him.

And so, the Faithful used the fish to connect with other faithful. According to legend:

The ichthys first started appearing in Catholic art and literature around the second century A.D. By the end of the second century it was popular among followers of the Church and became widespread across the globe by the fourth century. According to tradition, the fish symbol is rooted during the early years of the Church when those who followed the Lord faced intense religious persecution. The symbol would allow them to quickly identify if they were in safe company, and it was also used to discretely mark gathering places and tombs. Some say that when a Catholic was faced with a stranger in a road, they would draw one half of the arc in the dirt. If the stranger completed the symbol by drawing the other arc, they both knew they were safe in each others company.

As for the Ichthys itself:

The term ichthys, is actually a Greek acronym translating into English to mean Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior.

• Iota (i) is the first letter of Iēsous (Ἰησοῦς), Greek for “Jesus”
• Chi (ch) is the first letter of Christos (Χριστός), Greek for “anointed”
• Theta (th) is the first letter of Theou (Θεοῦ), Greek for “God”
• Upsilon (y) is the first letter of hyios (Υἱός), Greek for “Son”
• Sigma (s) is the first letter of sōtēr (Σωτήρ), Greek for “Savior”

Ancient Churches as well as newer ones with lovely art, often have fish in mosaics and stained glass.

Continuing with the nautical theme, as the Church is considered to be the Barque of St. Peter, the congregation sits in a section of the building called the “nave” as in naval, and the anchor is a symbol of safe harbor.

More on the symbols of Christ Himself next week. (There are a number.)

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And now for the business portion.

Please review our HOST and site owner’s Guidelines for posting and discussion for this site. Wolf is kind enough to put up with *most* of us and our antics after thorough vetting. Violators of the baiting and deliberately attempting to divide the group rules WILL face consequences.

The discourse on this site is to be CIVIL – no name calling, baiting, or threatening others here is allowed. Company manners are appreciated. Those who are so inclined may visit Wolf’s other sanctuary, the U-Tree, to slog out discussions best saved for a wrestling mat. If, for some reason, this site is not available, head over to the UTree and visit the post at the top of the list or the closest rescue thread.

This site is a celebration of the natural rights endowed to humans by our Creator as well as those enshrined in the Bill of Rights adopted in the founding documents of the United States of America. Within the limits of law, how we exercise these rights is part of the freedom of our discussion.

THAT MEANS THAT ALL OF US HERE ARE ENTITLED TO OUR OPINIONS AND PREJUDICES, ETC., SO LONG AS THEY CAUSE NO PHYSICAL HARM TO OTHERS OR DOXX OUR FELLOW TREE DWELLERS.

All opinions here are valued for the diversity they bring to the issues, and the shaping of understanding regarding topics for which many of us do not have all information. Correcting the record on any one topic is appreciated.

Be careful in expressing thoughts as we would all like to think well of the rest of the group, and ill-thought out comments have a way of wrecking that for everyone.

Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights
  2. No running with scissors
  3. If you bring snacks, be sure they are made with bacon

Auntie DePat’s requests as we are all supposedly adults and don’t just play them on TV like the body doubles pretending to be the squatter in chief:

If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.

The scroll wheel on your mouse can be your friend. As mature adults, please use it here in the same manner you would in avoiding online porn.

Thank you so much for any and all attention to such details. It is GREATLY appreciated by more than one party here.

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WISDOM 7:22–8:1

722for wisdom, the fashioner of all things, taught me. For in her there is a spirit that is intelligent, holy, unique, manifold, subtle, mobile, clear, unpolluted, distinct, invulnerable, loving the good, keen, irresistible, 23beneficent, humane, steadfast, sure, free from anxiety, all-powerful, overseeing all, and penetrating through all spirits that are intelligent and pure and most subtle. 24For wisdom is more mobile than any motion; because of her pureness she pervades and penetrates all things. 25For she is a breath of the power of God, and a pure emanation of the glory of the Almighty; therefore nothing defiled gains entrance into her. 26For she is a reflection of eternal light, a spotless mirror of the working of God, and an image of his goodness. 27Though she is but one, she can do all things, and while remaining in herself, she renews all things; in every generation she passes into holy souls and makes them friends of God, and prophets; 28for God loves nothing so much as the man who lives with wisdom. 29For she is more beautiful than the sun, and excels every constellation of the stars. Compared with the light she is found to be superior, 30for it is succeeded by the night, but against wisdom evil does not prevail. 81She reaches mightily from one end of the earth to the other, and she orders all things well.

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DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20211104

No idea where this originated, but saw it at least three times on Wednesday, so I thought I would share it.

Pep talk from General Flynn:

@RealGenFlynn
“A message for today:

We are Designed to Withstand

The apostle Paul went through all kinds of unfair situations. He was beaten with rods, falsely accused of crimes, lied about by others, put in prison for years, and shipwrecked. He could have been overwhelmed and crushed under the pressure. Yet he is the one who wrote, “Thanks be to God who always causes us to triumph.” He understood that God doesn’t let you face what you can’t handle. If you stay in faith as Paul did, you’ll discover you’ve been designed to withstand the pressure. You’ll find that the enemy can’t come up with a scheme to outwit the God who created you. He can’t send a storm that’s so powerful that your walls get blown down. You may be hard pressed, but you will not be crushed. Paul was saying we’ve been designed for the difficulty. God has taken into account all the weight, all the trouble, and all the bad breaks, and He’s given you the strength, the courage, and the fortitude to withstand.”

Paul is each one of us, Paul is America 

This is so profound of a message…profound because of its timeless message of unity, strength, courage, bravery, intellect and skill during the intensity of war. We should never forget the sacrifices of those who have gone before us. Today, we are a nation in crisis and we must keep in mind how we got here. We’ve taken for granted the centuries of sacrifice of those who have gone before us and instead, we’ve allowed deep levels of corruption to creep into our republic. Now is not the time to give up, now is the time to stand up…be like those who came before us who faced the impossible with the God-given character that is built into each and everyone American.

I say Local Action has a National Impact for a reason. It will be each “Soldier” who figures out how he or she will do their duty when the times comes. It may be to vote and never giving up on fighting for the sacrosanctity and integrity of this right, it may be simply raising your family as best you can, or it may be stepping up to run for office at the local level…whatever you’re decision is to get involved, know that you are making a difference in your life, in your family’s life, and for your community and our country’s future.

God bless you and God bless America!!! 💪🏼🙏🏼🇺🇸

It’s too early to count chickens with the wolves and the foxes around after Tuesday’s rout in the Old Dominion state, but Virginia may be the best news we’ve had in a while that the message of the deep state is everywhere is penetrating.

Monica On Air@monicaonairtalk
The new party? POP. (Pissed off parents)
10:13 AM · Nov 3, 2021

A few odds and ends.

This actually explains a lot.

And that is the reality that the deep state doesn’t want published.

Carlin:

And about shocking turns of events.

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One of the obstacles to full understanding of just what the enemy is all about revolves around the concept of symbolism.

Symbolism actually evolved in Christianity prior to the splintering of the Faith in the west in the sixteenth century Anno Domini, and the rich tradition of said symbolism is one of the aspects of the culture that was destroyed along with a lot of stained glass windows, altar stones, and other art work when the revolt happened.

I’ve been collecting examples of symbolism, so as to better inform readers here what those symbols are, how to spot them, and what they mean. Rather than a big, long post I thought I would bring this history to the Thursday threads as they always seem to get short shrift.

So, the first symbol(s) actually need to be taken as a block: the man, lion, ox, and eagle.

From the Prophet Ezekiel, Chapter 1:

[1] Now it came to pass in the thirtieth year, in the fourth month, on the fifth day of the month, when I was in the midst of the captives by the river Chobar, the heavens were opened, and I saw the visions of God. [2] On the fifth day of the month, the same was the fifth year of the captivity of king Joachin, [3] The word of the Lord came to Ezechiel the priest the son of Buzi in the land of the Chaldeans, by the river Chobar: and the hand of the Lord was there upon him. [4] And I saw, and behold a whirlwind came out of the north: and a great cloud, and a fire infolding it, and brightness was about it: and out of the midst thereof, that is, out of the midst of the fire, as it were the resemblance of amber: [5] And in the midst thereof the likeness of four living creatures: and this was their appearance: there was the likeness of a man in them.

[6] Every one had four faces, and every one four wings. [7] Their feet were straight feet, and the sole of their foot was like the sole of a calf’s foot, and they sparkled like the appearance of glowing brass. [8] And they had the hands of a man under their wings on their four sides: and they had faces, and wings on the four sides, [9] And the wings of one were joined to the wings of another. They turned not when they went: but every one went straight forward. [10]And as for the likeness of their faces: there was the face of a man, and the face of a lion on the right side of all the four: and the face of an ox, on the left side of all the four: and the face of an eagle over all the four.

The man, lion, ox and eagle are almost always presented in Church buildings in a group:

Simply, they are the symbols of the Evangelists: Sts. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. (In my parents’ parish, they are with the statues of the Evangelists carved into the Altar itself.)

There are alternative meanings, though.

Four of the best-known animal forms still familiar to us today are the four beasts of the Gospels. From earliest Christian times, the man, the eagle, the lion and the ox, first seen in Ezekiel’s vision by the river Chebar and later by St. John surrounding the throne of God, have been accepted as the symbols of the four evangelists. The man symbolized St. Matthew, because his Gospel begins by stating the genealogy of the ancestors of Christ. The lion is St. Mark, who early in his Gospel speaks of a voice crying in the wilderness. The ox, the sacrificial animal of the Old Covenant, symbolizes St. Luke, whose Gospel opens with the sacrifice offered by Zacharias. The eagle, believed to be the only animal that could gaze straight into the light of the sun, is St. John, who in his Gospel soars into the mystery of the Incarnation of God so naturally and contemplates it so profoundly that he seems like an eagle flying toward the sun.

By the twelfth century, the medieval doctors of the Church had enlarged upon the symbolism of the four beasts to also recall the major events in the life of Christ. The man is the reminder that God became man in the Incarnation. The ox recalls the sacrificial victim of the New Law, Our Lord Jesus Christ and His Passion. The lion, a symbol of vigilance because it was believed to sleep with its eyes open, symbolized the Resurrection when Our Lord appeared to sleep in death, even though His divine nature never dies and remains watching. Finally, as the eagle rises to the unknown heights, Christ rose to Heaven in the Ascension.

But there was yet a third meaning and teaching in the four beasts, which also showed man the virtues he must practice. Every pilgrim on his arduous journey through life to heaven must be a man, because God gave to man alone the gift of reason, which he must use to achieve heaven. He must also be an ox, the sacrificial victim, because it is necessary to make penance and mortify the flesh. He must be the lion in his courage and noble hearted deeds. And he must pray and contemplate God and the things of eternity like the eagle, which looks straight into the sun.

These particular symbols are not necessarily used by the other side, but this is an introduction to how and why symbolism and the need for it from people who oppose Christianity in practice has been stressed.

If this is an interesting topic for us, I’ll pull another one or two next week.

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And now for the business portion.

Please review our HOST and site owner’s Guidelines for posting and discussion for this site. Wolf is kind enough to put up with *most* of us and our antics after thorough vetting. Violators of the baiting and deliberately attempting to divide the group rules WILL face consequences.

The discourse on this site is to be CIVIL – no name calling, baiting, or threatening others here is allowed. Company manners are appreciated. Those who are so inclined may visit Wolf’s other sanctuary, the U-Tree, to slog out discussions best saved for a wrestling mat. If, for some reason, this site is not available, head over to the UTree and visit the post at the top of the list or the closest rescue thread.

This site is a celebration of the natural rights endowed to humans by our Creator as well as those enshrined in the Bill of Rights adopted in the founding documents of the United States of America. Within the limits of law, how we exercise these rights is part of the freedom of our discussion.

THAT MEANS THAT ALL OF US HERE ARE ENTITLED TO OUR OPINIONS AND PREJUDICES, ETC., SO LONG AS THEY CAUSE NO PHYSICAL HARM TO OTHERS OR DOXX OUR FELLOW TREE DWELLERS.

All opinions here are valued for the diversity they bring to the issues, and the shaping of understanding regarding topics for which many of us do not have all information. Correcting the record on any one topic is appreciated.

Be careful in expressing thoughts as we would all like to think well of the rest of the group, and ill-thought out comments have a way of wrecking that for everyone.

Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights
  2. No running with scissors
  3. If you bring snacks, be sure they are made with bacon

Auntie DePat’s requests as we are all supposedly adults and don’t just play them on TV like the body doubles pretending to be the squatter in chief:

If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.

The scroll wheel on your mouse can be your friend. As mature adults, please use it here in the same manner you would in avoiding online porn.

Thank you so much for any and all attention to such details. It is GREATLY appreciated by more than one party here.

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LUKE 15:1-10

1Now the tax collectors and sinners were all drawing near to hear him. 2And the Pharisees and the scribes murmured, saying, “This man receives sinners and eats with them.” 3So he told them this parable: 4“What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he has lost one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost, until he finds it? 5And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. 6And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and his neighbors, saying to them, `Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost.’ 7Just so, I tell you, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance. 8“Or what woman, having ten silver coins, if she loses one coin, does not light a lamp and sweep the house and seek diligently until she finds it? 9And when she has found it, she calls together her friends and neighbors, saying, `Rejoice with me, for I have found the coin which I had lost.’ 10Just so, I tell you, there is joy before the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”

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DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20211028

Bonus points for anyone who can tell the rest of us what those weapons are.

And he just happened to use a beagle for the photo.

Sure.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1453124806321246212

Attorney General Merrick Garland was on Capitol Hill for today’s bread and circus exposition. Pick your poison:

https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1453149781912702976

Carlin:

And in honor of the end of baseball season…eventually.

And now for the business portion.

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Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights
  2. No running with scissors
  3. If you bring snacks, be sure they are made with bacon

Auntie DePat’s requests as we are all supposedly adults and don’t just play them on TV like the body doubles pretending to be the squatter in chief:

If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.

The scroll wheel on your mouse can be your friend. As mature adults, please use it here in the same manner you would in avoiding online porn.

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On the Feast of St. Jude, Patron of policemen and hopeless cases.

PSALMS 19:2-5

1The heavens are telling the glory of God; and the firmament proclaims his handiwork. 2Day to day pours forth speech, and night to night declares knowledge. 3There is no speech, nor are there words; their voice is not heard; 4yet their voice goes out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them he has set a tent for the sun,

For some reason, I read that and thought of this, where the sixteenth notes are never true, and the congregation can’t keep up.

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DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20211021

https://twitter.com/RitrGrl/status/1450947280689840130

Yes, he did. Or his handlers did. Somebody did. At this point, even Democrats are begging for mean tweets and cheap gas.

And the mainstream media can be depended upon not to report that. Sort of like how they are not reporting any of the protesting we see on internet videos.

https://twitter.com/Zieleds/status/1450424091404472323

Why would that be? This might help.

Speaking of which, the Biden camp as acquired enough Pfizer product to start shooting up primary and grade school aged children. With all luck the mama bears out there will protect their cubs from the big, bad government.

I said with all luck. See, this is a problem:

As for the medical people….

Critical Thinking 101(Expert of Expert Evaluation)@critica18495985Replying to @Leftylockdowns1

Their education is largely influenced by the pharmaceutical industry. The world’s best selling medical textbook is Merck Manual, written by a pharmaceutical company. They are taught compartmentalized memorized knowledge. Very little principles and critical thinking.

Intellectual Property Isn’t@GaryOxide
Indeed. Many years ago I shared a house with a few medical students. I soon realized that they were actually on a seven-year long heavy indoctrination program, that trained them to stop thinking for themselves – ever. Those unwilling to comply simply never became doctors.

Unfortunately, I observed the same thing over the course of ten years working for a medical school.

The thing is, when it comes to medicine, and the lockstep mentality and not admitting mistakes, history is, to an extent, repeating itself.

General Powell’s vaccine was of no use against COVID. He submitted to experimental gene therapy in the hopes that it would protect him, and it did nothing for him. That hasn’t stopped the experts from proclaiming General Powell’s death as next door to proof that the vaccines are working.

Ian Sams, an adviser to the Department of Health and Human Services, is fretting on Twitter that what he is pleased to call the anti-vaxxers will use General Powell’s death as evidence that the vaccines may not be as efficient as advertised. A professor of Emergency Medicine at George Washington University, Dr. Leana Wen, huffs that news reports should mention that General Powell also suffered from cancer and Parkinson’s disease, which could have made the vaccine less efficacious. Dr. Wen also served as Baltimore’s health commissioner (and briefly as the head of Planned Parenthood, America’s premier abortion corporation —ed.), so she’s really an expert.

It all makes me think of another kind of expert, Dr. Ignaz Semmelweis, the physician who pioneered washing hands to prevent disease. Semmelweis actually knew what he was talking about because he ran the obstetrics wards at the Vienna General Hospital in Austria in the mid-19th century.

Semmelweis observed that, in those obstetrics wards that physicians attended, the mortality rate was high; in those that midwives attended, the mortality rate was low. The only difference between the doctors and the midwives was that doctors did autopsies and frequently delivered babies with the blood of the dead still on their hands.

Semmelweis concluded that something was clinging to the doctors’ hands that was harmful to the women giving birth.  Beginning in 1847, he began begging everyone to wash his hands with chlorine before going into the obstetrics wards.  The death rate plummeted.

Everyone should have been thrilled.  However, the medical community resented being accused of killing people.  To further discredit his ideas, although he was a Hungarian-born German, and may have been an atheist, a Catholic of Jewish descent, the rumor was spread that he was actively Jewish and, therefore, insulting Christian doctors.

Semmelweis was thrown out and, eventually, as his behavior became increasingly erratic (possibly Alzheimer’s or syphilis), he was relegated to an insane asylum, where it’s quite possible that attendants beat him to death.  The experts had spoken.  Evidence was not important when placed in the balance of what was politically correct and conformable to the accepted medical doctrines of the day.  This was back in the 1800s, and nothing has changed in the 21st century.

Experts and lies about COVID
By Pandra Selivanov

That doesn’t mean the people haven’t noticed the lies, and are taking action whether the “experts” realize it or not.

Are people REALLY quitting to stay at home on the dole, or are they hiding out until the shot fallout clears?

Critical Thinking 101(Expert of Expert Evaluation)@critica18495985
Fear is the virus. The super spreader is the media. A 100% effective vaccine for it is turn it off. Those who don’t take the vaccine endanger all of us, preventing us from stopping the spread.
2:55 PM · Oct 20, 2021

The worst of it is there’s a big cover up going on and it simply is not generating reporting or interest.

Biden orders OSHA to join the biggest cover up in human history

By Christopher Wright

OSHA has gone into full cover-up mode concerning adverse reactions to COVID vaccines. 

Late last month, Joe Biden told OSHA to hide information on vaccine injuries.  Yesterday, it was reported OSHA’s website now states OSHA will not require employers to report adverse reactions from the vaccines among their workers. 

The reason OSHA gives is astounding: they don’t want to hear about adverse reactions because they don’t want to discourage workers from getting vaccinated.  So much for the health and safety of the workers, which is the agency’s mission.  Workers have been sacrificed on the altar of the Biden administration’s phony narrative that the vaccines are completely safe.  Pravda has spoken. 

But that doesn’t prevent adverse reactions from continuing to pile up.  About 7,000 people had died shortly after receiving COVID vaccines when I first started tracking official government numbers in July.  The number of deaths has now passed 16,000 and the total number of adverse reactions — heart problems, blood clots, miscarriages, menstrual disruption, neurological symptoms, etc. — is approaching 800,000.  These numbers are off the charts compared to all other vaccines combined since the reporting system began 30 years ago.

Approximately 9,000 people in the U.S. have died after receiving a COVID vaccine in the last three months or so.  There are obviously problems with the vaccines, including problems for pregnant women and the babies they breastfeed, but nobody in authority will talk about them.  

leohomann.com

Here’s a point made by Lin Wood that needs to be considered when despairing that “nothing is happening.”

I can’t believe this man’s books are taught in college, and not dissected for what a society should NOT look like.

Some words of encouragement.

Carlin:

And now for the business portion.

Please review our HOST and site owner’s Guidelines for posting and discussion for this site. Wolf is kind enough to put up with *most* of us and our antics after thorough vetting. Violators of the baiting and deliberately attempting to divide the group rules WILL face consequences.

The discourse on this site is to be CIVIL – no name calling, baiting, or threatening others here is allowed. Company manners are appreciated. Those who are so inclined may visit Wolf’s other sanctuary, the U-Tree, to slog out discussions best saved for a wrestling mat. If, for some reason, this site is not available, head over to the UTree and visit the post at the top of the list or the closest rescue thread.

This site is a celebration of the natural rights endowed to humans by our Creator as well as those enshrined in the Bill of Rights adopted in the founding documents of the United States of America. Within the limits of law, how we exercise these rights is part of the freedom of our discussion.

THAT MEANS THAT ALL OF US HERE ARE ENTITLED TO OUR OPINIONS AND PREJUDICES, ETC., SO LONG AS THEY CAUSE NO PHYSICAL HARM TO OTHERS OR DOXX OUR FELLOW TREE DWELLERS.

All opinions here are valued for the diversity they bring to the issues, and the shaping of understanding regarding topics for which many of us do not have all information. Correcting the record on any one topic is appreciated.

Be careful in expressing thoughts as we would all like to think well of the rest of the group, and ill-thought out comments have a way of wrecking that for everyone.

Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights
  2. No running with scissors
  3. If you bring snacks, be sure they are made with bacon

Auntie DePat’s requests as we are all supposedly adults and don’t just play them on TV like the body doubles pretending to be the squatter in chief:

If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.

The scroll wheel on your mouse can be your friend. As mature adults, please use it here in the same manner you would in avoiding online porn.

Thank you so much for any and all attention to such details. It is GREATLY appreciated by more than one party here.

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ROMANS 6:19-23

19I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural limitations. For just as you once yielded your members to impurity and to greater and greater iniquity, so now yield your members to righteousness for sanctification. 20When you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. 21But then what return did you get from the things of which you are now ashamed? The end of those things is death. 22But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the return you get is sanctification and its end, eternal life. 23For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

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