Dear MAGA: Open Topic 20181226

This SPECIAL BOXING DAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.

Say what you want, comment on what other people said, comment on people’s comments.  Keep it civil.  Treehouse rules, but expect lots of QAnon.


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Gudthots

Just grateful we are not silenced in the public square known as the internet.comment image

Gudthots
thetinfoilhatsociety

Stealing. Reposting on FB. TY!

Gudthots

I’m not sure of his main premise that the new positions taken recently are based on a “Trump be Trump” change in position. In fact, I’m pretty sure the “new” positions have been timed with strategic precision. But that’s just my take.
I just follow the Q Team along with the Wolf pack…
https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2018/12/24/trump-the-disrupter-pivots-back-to-trumpism-and-the-establishment-freaks-out-n2537978comment image

Sylvia Avery

Check out Melania’s Christmas stocking! I love it!

Pat Frederick

lol completely missed that detail when i first looked at it!

Sylvia Avery

I did, too, it was only the second time I looked at it that I saw what he had done with the stocking and it made me laugh.

trumpismie

My first cupajoe and your astute eye and first smile this morning 🙂

Sylvia Avery
trumpismie

Wow, praying for Israel

NYGuy54

seems like the DS would start a war to defeat Donald Trump. Attack Israel and it sucks us in.

NYGuy54

From your link Daughn..thank you..check out this dude
https://twitter.com/HeshmatAlavi/status/1078044622549590017

NYGuy54

certainly seems like these people know stuff like they were all clued in together.

Pat Frederick

this story was on the morning news here and of course, being me, I shouted at the tv that there were similar deaths during the Obama years…the news anchors must have gone deaf because they didn’t respond…so I turned it off.

Sylvia Avery

I enjoyed reading this, so I thought I’d share it here.
“I am a nationalist.
There it is, naked in black and white, and my younger self who believed all the lies about nationalism leading to war is cringing a little in the back of my brain.
But actually, the important thing here is: why wouldn’t I be a nationalist? Or, if you prefer it spun another way: why would someone who has left her place of birth and the family and connections there, who had to acculturate to a new land, and who finally became a citizen of that land not be a nationalist? What sense does that even make?
And what is one a “nationalist” in opposition to? Internationalists? And what is internationalism, precisely?…..”
https://pjmedia.com/trending/nationalist-and-proud/

Pat Frederick

thanks for posting–it’s quite long, but very entertaining and well written!

singularZoe

Like that, Sylvia, as a fellow nationalist. Just feels good to proclaim it.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I read something once, many years ago, that tried to draw a distinction between a “patriot” and a “nationalist.” It ran: A patriot is someone who loves his country. A nationalist is someone who hates all other countries. At the time, I found that to be a useful distinction.
I’m certainly not that kind of nationalist; and I doubt most people today who call themselves nationalist, especially those around here, mean it that way. (Sure, we have specific gripes about specific countries–that’s not what I mean, I talk about hating other countries simply because they are “other.”)
Today’s “nationalist” is simply a “patriot” by that old distinction, which no one seems to follow any more–except that the Left still finds it useful. Someone calling themselves a nationalist will be treated by the Left AS IF that old distinction were in play, and the nationalist (patriot) will be assumed to be hating everyone else.

Elizabeth Carter

Sylvia, People who care about the nebulous “everyone” actually care about no one.

tessa50

We can care about and pray for everyone. We simply can’t support everyone. First we take care of our own, then send aid and help in other ways where we can. When our own don’t come first, we can’t help anyone.

itswoot

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The Capture of the Hessians at Trenton by John Trumbull (1756 – 1843)
The Battle of Trenton began on this day in 1776 at about 8:00 in the morning. It lasted about an hour. The Continental Army had begun their march at about 2:00 PM on Christmas Day and headed for the place on the Delaware River where it was crossed during the night.
Little known fact:
James Monroe, future President of the U.S., and most well-known for the Monroe Doctrine, was wounded at the Battle of Trenton.

itswoot

In the Trumbull painting, Lt. James Monroe can be seen on the ground left of center, and being attended to by Dr. Riker (left-click to enlarge).
It was a severe wound (severed artery) that Monroe nearly died from. General Washington cited him for bravery during the battle, afterwards promoting him to Captain.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Nice little history factoid there. Thank you.
I’ve taken, in recent years, to deliberately flying a Betsy Ross (13 stars in the circle) flag overnight Christmas into the next day in commemoration of the march, but I missed it this year as I was away from home most of the day and simply forgot to put it up before I left.

itswoot

That’s a great way to commemorate the battle. Thanks for sharing.
I spent part of the day refreshing my memory by re-reading parts of “1776” by David McCullough. Also read some online sources on the battle.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

There was a movie called The Crossing, too.

Pat Frederick

Roughly 80% of all voters say U.S. needs secure borders, including 68% of Democrats: Harvard poll – https://t.co/66A4xP3NUk – @washtimes
— Robert Barnes (@Barnes_Law) December 25, 2018

Pat Frederick

I thought it was interesting cuz it was from Harvard–you know, Hogg’s new school…

Pat Frederick

wolf…got a comment awaiting moderation in the info bombing thread–not sure why?

Sylvia Avery

Me, too.

Pat Frederick

‘Stunning’: 80% using Obamacare’s Medicaid expansion are ineligible, Louisiana report finds
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/dec/4/obamacare-medicaid-expansion-beneficiaries-ineligi/?
Excerpt:
Louisiana’s legislative auditor wanted to know how the state’s expansion of Medicaid under Obamacare was doing, so he picked 100 people who were deemed eligible under the rules.
He found that 82 of them made so much money that they shouldn’t have qualified for the benefits they received.
Auditor Daryl G. Purpera, who issued his findings last month to little fanfare outside of Louisiana, figured if those statistics hold true for the rest of the expanded Medicaid population in his state, then the losses to ineligible beneficiaries could be as high as $85 million.

redlegleader68

Not including Illegals with Fake ID’s …. just sayin’ … 😉

Pat Frederick

Merry Christmas–but I cannot take the credit…I did copy it from OT…but their name didn’t copy…want me to find out so you can kiss them instead…lol

NebraskaFilly

NE just voted for this travesty – great ammo, Pat – thanks a bunch!!!

Pat Frederick

disclaimer: it is from OT…
but it’s always nice to be appreciated…LOL…I don’t tweet…can’t research to save my butt, but I can copy and paste with the best of them!

trumpismie

just 1 state?

Pat Frederick

Nancy Pelosi doesn’t want to Build A Wall because her & her hubby own a $17M investment in H. J. Heinz’s & Del Monte parent company of StarKist.
Both plants employ over 60% of the population paying less than $3.75 an hr.
American lives lost for cheap labor
Build The Wall
— MAGA (@MAGA35107119) December 25, 2018

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

It’s funny that the Left loves to complain about evil capitalist corporations wanting cheap labor…

Pat Frederick

It’s obvious that Christopher Steele has come out from hiding just to throw Clinton under the bus for one reason: to protect/hide the British involvement in the FISA spying scandal against me, Trump and others around him. Remember, the UK called Trump to stop declassification.
— George Papadopoulos (@GeorgePapa19) December 25, 2018

Sylvia Avery

They need to watch it. Papa has teeth, and he bites. And I think he’s found he likes to bite.

Pat Frederick

yep, he’s done his time…and he’s free to say what he wants now.

Pat Frederick

Hubby got me Spygate (Dan Bongino) for Christmas and I am excited to read it! He also got me a (beginner) Kona guitar (and the guitar for dummies learning package…) I love to learn!!
Besides the new rifle I bought him, I got him several dvds–Air America (CIA, military, heroin), Bird on a Wire (FBI sells out a guy in witness protection), and Broken Arrow (military officer steals 2 nukes)…he quickly picked up on the theme…lol

PeteC

You will like Spygate, Pat. Good time line at the back that I use to add dates to so as to have a handle on things!

Pat Frederick

thanks!! After housework is done, (as my mom used to say–a lick and a promise…lol) I’m getting some tea and settling in…with a highlighter…in case I wanna refer back…always the student!

pgroup

Those movies are modern (sort-of) classics. Here’s a couple of recent topical action flicks that I thought were well done and well acted: American Assassin and Sicario. Both are fairly realistic and scary.

Pat Frederick

thanks I will check them out!

NebraskaFilly

Loved Bird on a Wire – with Goldie Hawn, if I remember correctly.

Pat Frederick

yes…we haven’t gone to a movie theater since The Runaway Bride was in theaters–so we tend to buy and watch older movies–I don’t know who half the latest “stars” are anymore…lol

NebraskaFilly

Same here – I have taken my granddaughter to the movies a couple of times but as for me, last one I went to was War Horse, after which I purchased the DVD.

Pat Frederick

was that about McCain or Hillary? LOL

NebraskaFilly

Neither of them would be worthy of cleaning up the War Horse’s piles!!!!

churchmouse

churchmouse

Father agrees with son:

churchmouse

How very sad:

churchmouse

The First Couple’s Christmas message to the nation on December 25:

churchmouse

PDJT’s half hour Christmas conference call with the military.
SD says: ‘The participants were units from all five branches of the Armed Forces: •Army – Task Force Talon, Anderson Air Force Base, Guam; •Marine Corps – Marine Attack Squadron 223, Sheik Isa Airbase, Bahrain; •Navy – Naval Forces Central Command, Manama, Bahrain; •Air Force – 379th Air Expeditionary Wing, Al Udied Air Base, Qatar; •Coast Guard – Coast Guard District 7, Juneau, Alaska.’

Tonawanda

I have no way to know how true or false this is. I found the link on Voat QRC and thought it was interesting:comment image
It could be total baloney, but if so well done baloney.

Tonawanda

Sorry, I did not realize the whole thing would post. I thought it was just a link.

churchmouse

No problem. It was good reading it all in one go.
Thanks very much for posting!

Tonawanda

YW!

churchmouse

A detailed post from SD on Dec. 25, ‘The FBI and DOJ Were Working to Protect Hillary Clinton a Lot Longer Than Generally Discussed’, might be related to the information you posted. It’s all about the Middle East.
Excerpts:
‘Under the code name “Zero Footprint” Marc Turi originally drew up the plan to coordinate the flow of weapons from the U.S. through the intermediary of Qatar into Libya. Those U.S. weapons ended up in Libya and Syria being used by the enemies of the U.S., specifically al-Qaeda. [All Citations within The Benghazi Brief]
‘In February of 2012 Asst. Secretary of State Andrew Shapiro admitted the State Department had been attempting to relocate and buy-back those weapons since August of 2011. However, on September 11th 2012, while those efforts were still ongoing, the attacks in Benghazi against the U.S. State Department Ambassador Chris Stevens took place, and four Americans were killed.
‘In 2014 the DOJ filed charges against Marc Turi essentially for non registered weapons shipments. Turi’s defense was that the weapons were unregistered because the State Department and the CIA needed covert cover. Elements within the CIA confirmed the basic outline for Turi’s assertion.
‘In 2015 Turi provided Fox News with documents and email exchanges he had with high-level members of Congress as well as military, and State Department employees to back up his claim that the Obama administration authorized in 2011, at the height of the Arab Spring, a covert weapons program that spun out of control.
‘Marc Turi’s legal defense team said if the DOJ was going to prosecute him for the arms shipments, his defense would necessarily reveal how Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was actually the driver of the entire program …’
Turi’s case was to begin on November 8, 2016 (the day of the election). A month previously, a judge had ruled Turi could use the documentation he had to defend himself.
However, charges were dropped.
SD cited the Fox News article about it:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/05/doj-abruptly-drops-case-against-gun-runner-who-threatened-to-reveal-clintons-libya-dealings.html
‘The move may avert a release of potentially explosive documents.
‘“I am glad this horrific five-year ordeal is over and I am pleased to be able to move on with my life,” Turi told Fox News in a statement. “The American public has the right to know that an injustice was committed against an innocent American.”’

Tonawanda

Very, very interesting.
Mr. Turi’s last comments ought to turn “American” into the plural.

Pat Frederick

wowzers!

prairie123

Wow…. I don’t often read super long posts, but this one… I couldn’t stop and, if true, it really puts together a lot of puzzle pieces. Thank God she didn’t win in 2016!

Tonawanda

It makes a lot of sense.

Tonawanda

TY for clarifying what this was!
And great insights intl what this might mean!

NYGuy54

I think it is filled with larp type stuff. I don’t believe it I have seen this a while ago as well.

Tonawanda

I see that now. It was someone who was repeating past posts.
But they all are very plausible, and explanatory of so many things.

Greg Cox

If true, it would confirm an inclination I put forth a few weeks ago, that a successful Clinton Foundation Investigation (that has been supposedly been taking place for a couple years), could, ALONE, bring down most of the Deep State.

Roberta

Thank you.
I know I have read much, if not all, of the material in the first three or four screens. Where? Does anyone know? Did Q post links to this material??

Roberta

PS: I did not see it on 4-chan; I have never gone to that board and only rarely scan the anon responses to Q posts on 8-chan.

NYGuy54

This is old stuff. I saw this a long while ago.

Tonawanda

OK. (BTW, we are leaving an hour later than I thought).

churchmouse
Pat Frederick

so there’s a movie about RBG and apparently a “cult” has or is forming about her? Imo, that means she’s in the line-up for the next MOAB from POTUS. They are trying to elevate her importance–yes she is on SCOTUS, but not worthy of overwhelming the news cycle for long. So they elevate her status so they can displace all attention for yet another week…something big must be incoming.

churchmouse

Yes, the link is below.
How can this woman keep voting when she’s having MAJOR surgery in her MID-80s?? I think the question has been asked here or at CTH. Someone should investigate this travesty of her SPEEDY recoveries!

Pat Frederick

I read other accounts of people having lung resections and most are out 6 weeks–and these were not 85 year old people either…

Pat Frederick

wow! that’s amazing, right?

Pat Frederick

oh, she’s one of the Indispensable Ones…I met many of those–got sick from a few who should have stayed home too.

Sue Mcdonald

had my lung surgery 2 or so years ago took months to regain strength back, I am 60 .I still wish for my previous energy. and while I was in the hospital I can tell you I wasnt up to voting or signing anything!!! its all such a crock of crap imo

tessa50

I’m going to ask because I don’t know. Does she have to be there physically to vote?

churchmouse

I have no idea, tessa.
I, too, would like to know.

Gil

I went to barnes n noble looking for kids books several weeks ago. I found several “kids” books about her. Making her cool and fun and a badass. I turned the covers around….. Propaganda

Pat Frederick

doesn’t she advocate for lowering the consent age to 12? scary there are children’s books about her…are there subliminal messages in them?

Gil

She does! Idk didnt read…

PeteC

You know this Clinton Foundation bullshit reminds historically of the starting point of all this foundational crap. It was 1913, when the Houses of wealth in America got their Federal Reserve Act passed with the aid of their puppet Woodrow Wilson (but this central bank would have no time limits attached to it as far as duration like the previous three central banks). Then, to pay for the f**king interest for the issue of the money the Reserve would print out of nowhere, they passed the 16th Amendment to tax Americans at the federal level the same year (federal income tax!). This revenue stream (robbed from the little people– you and me!) provided the funds to pay the interest on money borrowed from the Federal Reserve by the federal government.
But at the same time, the Houses of wealth were writing federal laws pertaining to these newly formed foundations they created in order to never pay income tax!!!! Of course, they had control of the IRS from the beginning also. The Clintons have taken the foundation scam to the next level. This could get interesting, if all the investigations around the Clinton Foundation are taking place!!!

Tonawanda

Prohibition was a major reason for the 16th Am, IIRC, both in terms of loss of revenue, and in terms of the political forces aligned on several related issues.
501(c)(3)s are a major source of communist influence in this country IMO and also a major source of corruption. Abolish the income tax and abolish charitable deductions.

Tonawanda

It is complicated and not straightforward.
I am not concerned about the wealthy people as much as the political organizations like the SPCA, highly anti-American and powerful, while selling a Phony Narrative.
I for one would like to see universities be business enterprises or actual charitable organizations dedicated to education, not destroying America.

Pat Frederick

from the OT…interesting read despite it being The Hill
Clivus Multrum (@ClivusM) says:
December 26, 2018 at 9:52 am
Kevin R. Brock – FBI Former Assistant Director of Intelligence – with some great insight regarding the exposure of the apparent miscarriage of justice in the Michael Flynn matter writing for The Hill, generally regarded as heavily left-leaning (The Hill, not Brock)
Good stuff…..
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/422801-three-oddities-in-fbi-handling-of-flynn-interview

churchmouse
churchmouse

churchmouse

Great thread from Brian Cates (excerpted):

churchmouse

Father of seven-year-old girl (Santa, ‘marginal’ conversation) says story has been blown out of all proportion:

From the article:
‘In fact, dad Donald J. Lloyd, 40 (who, as it happens, shares a first name and middle initial with the president), told BuzzFeed News he would have used similar language with his daughter, and that he thinks the remark is being blown out of proportion and unfairly politicized.
‘“I think it’s crazy it became a big deal. It’s Christmastime. I’d love to keep politics out of Christmas,” said Donald. “It didn’t bother me — I like to talk to my kids like adults.”
‘Collman’s mom, Erica, 40, agreed. She added that she found Trump to be extremely generous.
‘“I’m a teacher. I’m OK with the vocabulary,” said Erica, who teaches third-grade students. “He was very kind. I was very impressed with the phone call.”’

churchmouse

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

To be sure, putting a barrier up on one part of the border will stop the flow of people across the border there–they’ll go somewhere else a little more inconvenient (in this case further from El Paso) but continue to be easy to cross. I wouldn’t be terribly surprised if the smuggling doesn’t continue at the same pace (or at 95+% of the pace) as before, just somewhere else.
To many idiots, that justifies not doing anything anywhere on the border. To me (and I like to think I’m not an idiot, despite trying to prove it so many times during my life), it means to build walls in those other areas, as well. What will be interesting is seeing what happens when ALL of the border is hard to sneak across.

Gudthots

The other argument I hear is about how they will just tunnel. It’s just another thoughtless slave media talking point. The more we advertise the new levels of difficulty, the less people in Central America will be duped into paying the coyotes to try and illegally enter. The only people left attempting to cross a militarized border area can rightly be treated as enemy combatants at that point.
Thankfully I’ve followed Thomas Wictor long enough to know that our friends in Israel already have technology for not only detecting underground works but to also destroy them. I assure any one that brings the subject up that Israel would be more than happy to assist us with these kinds of border security situations.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Granted, however, that our border is a LOT longer than theirs. But the part under the Rio Grande should be impossible to tunnel under without a major civil engineering effort, due to the water table being at the surface of the river there.

churchmouse

From December 4:
‘Stunning’: 80% using Obamacare’s Medicaid expansion are ineligible, Louisiana report finds
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/dec/4/obamacare-medicaid-expansion-beneficiaries-ineligi/
‘Louisiana’s legislative auditor wanted to know how the state’s expansion of Medicaid under Obamacare was doing, so he picked 100 people who were deemed eligible under the rules.
‘He found that 82 of them made so much money that they shouldn’t have qualified for the benefits they received.
‘Auditor Daryl G. Purpera, who issued his findings last month to little fanfare outside of Louisiana, figured if those statistics hold true for the rest of the expanded Medicaid population in his state, then the losses to ineligible beneficiaries could be as high as $85 million.
‘“This is huge. It really is,” he told The Washington Times. “As more and more state auditors realize what this is doing to them, it’s going to come to a point where all 50 of them are going to have to declare they can no longer say the state’s books are accurate. I really do believe that day is coming.”
‘Louisiana may be an outlier. A federal inspector general’s report this year found 38 out of a sample of 150 Medicaid beneficiaries in California were potentially ineligible. Taken statewide, that would mean more than 350,000 questionable customers.
‘Another report estimated nearly 50,000 questionable beneficiaries in New York …’
More at the link.

PeteC

Thank you ChurchMouse for all the news and links you post. What a lot of effort and time that takes!!!!
I depend on you, since I don’t inhabit other sites!!! Again, thank you, CM!!!!

churchmouse

Thank you, friend. I greatly appreciate your letting me know! 🙂

churchmouse

Exactly.
A number of us had suspected this for several years.
Finally, at last, we have some proof.
I hope this goes further, along with illegal immigration and more.
The President is well aware of this. Again, as with Q drops, it’s a matter of getting it out to the public in tiny bites so that they finally get the picture.
Yes, we’re getting there, but there is still a long way to go.

churchmouse

I’d go back even further, wolf.
What about LBJ in 1963 and, even earlier, the guys Eisenhower warned us about early in 1960, those in Congress who were part of the MIC?
Anyone over 60 born in the US has been living this their whole lives.
I was a nipper, along with some here, when the following ad came out.
Who knew the truth of it extended beyond dishwashing detergent? 😉 (A joke, but it so easily lends itself elsewhere … )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7BvEldVEHU

churchmouse

It’s the ‘Relax, you’re soaking in it’ advert.

singularZoe

I know Judicial Watch just reported HUD is still in a mess, continuing Obama programs that give money to leftist groups like those affiliated with La Raza and others jut as bad. Sounds like a huge mess, would have thought Ben Carson would know better than this.

churchmouse

It’s tough to get rid of, and as a couple of us said about someone else in the administration the other day, you start sacking people left and right, well, you look like a bad guy.
Carson is anything but and doesn’t want to look like one. I cannot blame him.
You’re right, Zoe, HUD is ‘a huge mess’, and, Carson (God bless him) surely knows it.
Let’s continue to pray for him along with all our other MAGA favourites.
The rot has been deep within HUD, probably for at least 50 years.
Something to keep in mind, considering that one must have to have connections to work there. It’s probably a ‘closed shop’, as Britons would say: i.e. ‘members only’.

singularZoe

C, you are right, we do need to pray for him, but if he is going to worry about what people think of him, he probably isn’t up to the job of cleaning out the rot. I agree he is a good man with probably good intentions. Still disappointed.

churchmouse

I don’t know if that is what Dr Carson actually thinks.
I posited that on here the other day, and, IIRC, someone else did, too.
The reality of the situation is that if you entered — cold — into an institution that had a deeply ingrained, long-term, corrupt culture opposed to what it should be (and antithetical to your natural temperament, i.e. nice and clean), would you really go in all guns blazing?
I sure as Hades would not go in aggressively. There must be thousands of HUD employees opposing Dr Carson.
You know, we’re aware of Arkancides and other mysterious deaths, yet, we go on about peaceful Dr Carson going on to wipe out all the corruption that is in HUD?
If we paused for a moment to think about the realities (I’ve been in a much smaller situation, still career limiting), we would reconsider our keyboard battalion rhetoric.

churchmouse

Why did this not come out during the 2016 campaign?! We all knew about the bone spurs. If this is so accurate, Hillary would have used it at the time:

churchmouse

As someone said on CTH in response (very true, this):
‘Eric C. says:
December 26, 2018 at 8:45 am
‘Name one President who served active-duty and was deployed to the front lines during Vietnam, hmmmmmm.
‘Compare that to the WWII generation of Presidents.
‘Thank goodness President Trump should be the last President who we will need to hear about what they did or did not do during Vietnam.
‘It will will be interesting to see the Gulf War generation run for the highest office and how the choice to serve in the armed forces or not affects the campaigns.’

Pat Frederick

well look at the way the tweeter spelled POTUS’s name…tells you everything you need to know right there…

churchmouse

Indeed!

churchmouse

We knew this was coming (and, I think it’s happened before over the past decade or so):

pgroup

Is DJT our president or what? How come these people aren’t released to the nearest military base, where they have plenty of tents and open space?
Something is wrong with ICE. Maybe they think it’s still 2016.

NebraskaFilly

They simply do not have adequate housing available. Cloward & Piven in the flesh!

churchmouse

Or, perhaps there are payoffs to just slip these people through on the sly.
There’s a woman, Jessica Vaughn from the Center for Migration Studies (cis.org), a conservative immigration watch organisation, on The Howie Carr Show as I write (Wednesday, December 26). She says there are adult men waiting for their ‘children’ in Texas cities and towns where buses stop. She says she has personally witnessed this herself more than once.
She says that Latin American countries — including illegals from there — essentially think the United States is powerless to stop illegal immigration. The smugglers are riding high thanks to a few American judges, she says.
She said that the Trump administration is making progress, albeit slowly. ICE is having more effect on deporting people back to other countries, such as China and Cuba.

Tonawanda

Anybody in their right mind can see how weak minded America has become.
Everyone is going to exploit that weakness.

churchmouse

YES!
Thanks, Tonawanda.
They’ve had it all worked out for years and years. It’s standard operating procedure (SOP) by now.

tessa50

What happened to they wouldn’t be allowed to cross the border, let alone be released? I thought that’s what those tents were for?

churchmouse

You couldn’t make this up.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg movie at Christmas (sigh):
https://www.amctheatres.com/movies/on-the-basis-of-sex-56977

Pat Frederick

clever name…if they had to put a current picture of Ruthie on the trailer, would it generate much interest without that intriguing name? LOL

churchmouse

There is a French cable news daily show that had a big bio feature on RBG. I posted a preview on it last week. They called her a great American heroine.

Gil
PeteC

DP—great eyes, didn’t see that at first!!! Lol!

PeteC

“Leaving the house”…true!!! But come on, DP, you can let down a little at home, even being Catholic USA, can’t you???!!! 😉

Tonawanda

Very interesting! Huge red pill.

PeteC

Thanks DW!!! Good read, good information! I’d be afraid to take a pee in the WH without thinking someone (or something) is watching. Poor President!!!

Pat Frederick

didn’t he also tweet –after the renovation started–that there was “gold in those walls”…

Pat Frederick

great find! but way too many parallels to our beloved President Trump!

Tonawanda

Is it my imagination? The government shutdown is a big yawner?
As each day passes, VSG gets to (yet again) talk about border security. And the DemoKKKrats get to talk about what? Federal employees not getting paid?

Pat Frederick

pardon my ignorance, but does a shutdown stop the swearing in of the newbies in Congress? I can’t seem to find info one way or the other.

Tonawanda

Good question!

Tonawanda

I meant politically.

Gil

Love and the maturity to cultivate it, disappearing along with the relative societal impacts.
Psychologists and other theorists blame many things for the American withdrawal from sex and love: the suffocating influence of the smartphone, emotional immaturity and fragility, and fixation on career to the extent that everything else is an irksome distraction. But all of those culprits, while relevant, seem symptomatic of a more radical problem. Perhaps America is a culture ill equipped for love.
Erich Fromm, a Jewish psychologist and philosopher who moved from Germany to New York to escape Nazi persecution, wrote in his brilliant and forever salient book The Art of Loving that love, like any art—engineering, painting, playing an instrument—requires knowledge and effort.
“Our whole culture,” Fromm explained, “is based on an appetite for buying.” As a result, most people think of love only as an acquisition—how can they be loved—rather than learning how to love another. Falling in love is involuntary, but to protect and preserve a more mature and long-term love, the lover must have the discipline, maturity, and faith to “stand in love.”
Writing in 1956, Fromm eerily predicted the “disintegration of love in Western Culture”: “If love is the capacity of the mature, productive character, it follows that the capacity to love in an individual living in any given culture depends on the influence this culture has on the character of the average person.”
The West, and especially its cultural leader the United States, was becoming an “alienated culture of success” in which “life has no goal except the one to move, no principle except the one of fair exchange, no satisfaction expect the one to consume.”
Fromm’s four factors essential for the cultivation and maintenance of love—discipline, concentration, patience, and supreme concern—suffer assault in such a culture. Love is also “dependent on the relative absence of narcissism,” and therefore “requires the development of humility, objectivity, and reason.”
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/how-america-grew-bored-with-love/?utm_source=samizdat&utm_medium=partner&utm_campaign=free

singularZoe

I agree, DP, and the god they believe in is a god of theiar own making. Worship of self and of youth and sex without love.

Gil

Theres more of that in the article. Worship of self as god, goddess, princess, etc has played into it, along with way too much time on social media instead of being social for kids and young adults

PeteC

Yes, interesting! What does Sec. Pompeo run around in?

Greg Cox
PeteC

Love it!!! No leaks!!!

NYGuy54

This is the most thorough dive into Fusion GPS and its complex weave of people I have ever seen. It introduces brand new names that don’t get publicity. It connects dots back to Great Britain. And it makes links that are pretty disturbing using facial recognition software. We have a different pic of Nellie Ohr (which I appreciate)
It’s a long and dense article but it puts any previous analysis into Fusion GPS to shame..allocate some time when you read this. Oh and you probably won’t like the conclusions. Still it’s a very informative piece
https://apelbaum.wordpress.com/2018/03/17/the-mechanics-of-deception/

PeteC

NY54– very interesting to note (and I hope WMoon reads this), that Nellie Ohr worked for Mitre Corp. during the years of Jan. 2000–Dec. 2008. Why??? They had direct involvement in 9-11!
Mitre has provided computer and information technology to the FAA and US Air Force since the late 1950’s. Mitre is a Federally Funded Research and Development Center (FFRDC) for the Dept. Of Defense, the FAA, and the IRS. According to Mitre, they are active (imbedded) in the military departments, defense and intelligence agencies, the combatant commands, and elements of both the office of Sec. of Defense and the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
According to Indira Singh (IT and risk consultant with JP Morgan Chase and DARPA)—“Ptech was with Mitre in the basement of the FAA for two years prior to 9-11. Their specific job is to look at interoperability issues the FAA had with NORAD and the Air Force in the case of an emergency. If anyone was in a position to know that the FAA, that there was a window of opportunity or to insert software or to change anything, it would have been Ptech along with Mitre.” (Sept. 9, 2004). Ptech software “is utilized at the highest levels of almost every government and military and defense organization in this country.” This includes Secret Service, FBI, DoD, House of Representatives, Treasury Dept., IRS, US Navy and AF, and FAA.
My point? They had the capability to confuse optics and responses across the board on 9-11, especially when you also factor in that a military exercise involving a similar scenario as 9-11 called Vigilant Guardian was taking place on the East Coast that very day (9-11)—which is why those responding were asking, “Is this real-world or exercise?”

NYGuy54

I did not know that. There are way more people involved in this than we previously knew.

PeteC

Also to note, several investigators have speculated that Nellie Ohr has a CIA connection, or is CIA!!!

PeteC

Wolfie—this gets deep!!! And with your exceptionalism, you will get to the bottom of it all!!!

PeteC

Very much understand, Wolfie!!! Put it together, big boy! We’ll wait! 😉

PeteC

“The easiest way to carry out a false-flag attack is by setting up a military exercise that simulates the very attack you want to carry out.” (Captain Eric H. May, former US Army military intelligence officer)

PeteC

Examples—TWA Flight 800 (1996), 9-11, the bombings of the London Underground and a bus in 2005, the sinking of the Baltic ferry Estonia in 1994–all with security drills or military exercises occurring at the same time involving similar scenarios!

Molly Pitcher

Another example ..didn’t some of the teachers @ Parkland say in tv interviews that they thought the shooting was a planned drill?
Another curious factoid..Boston Marathon…2012…
“We were fully staffed and ready to respond because we ANTICIPATED having more than the typical number of emergency room admissions that day,” Ferrer told The Nation’s Health. “That’s why there weren’t more lives lost.”
Hours earlier, the commission activated its Office of Public Health Preparedness and Medical Reserve Corps in accordance with its regular responsibilities at the marathon, which this year attracted about 27,000 registrants. The day of the bombings, nearly 200 Boston health department personnel were already on site, overseeing medical activities and treating runners with injuries and health problems inside medical tents set up along the marathon route.

Molly Pitcher

The Boston example..not a smoking gun but interesting to plan extra personnel for an event that previously had no catastrophes

PeteC

Yes, Molly! And I hate to say this for fear of being labeled a kook, but we’re there not some sort of emergency response exercises going on simultaneously to Sandy Hook???

Molly Pitcher

From one kook to another, I recall hearing that but haven’t saved anything to prove it.

PeteC

Lol, Molly!!! Looks of a feather, hang together! But in this case, it’s the Q-tree!

PeteC

That was supposed to be “kooks”!!!

Molly Pitcher

hahah PeteC, the lunatic fringe ain’t so crazy after all!

NYGuy54

so basically you are saying the reality we have has been staged

PeteC

Amen, brother!!!!

singularZoe

That makes incomprehensible actions of some more comprehensible, Wolfie.

NYGuy54

There is way, way more in there than that (even though that is interesting). The dot connecting is rather fantastic. Pappadopolous would probably love this…make his head nod up and down

Spab

That was quite a detailed analysis. The rats do run in packs don’t they. NYGuy you dug deep for that one. thanks for the info.

Pat Frederick

I saw that being reported OT…really goofy question—I just finished a workout, so my brain is exhausted–lol
any plane the President is on is AF1, correct? so isn’t it just a plane being spotted (if the call sign is not AF1)
what am I missing here? they spotted a plane–anyone could be on it, since the call sign is not AF1…

Pat Frederick

IRAQ????
NickTheDeplorable (@NicholasCain67) says:
December 26, 2018 at 2:18 pm
Donald and Melania Trump make surprise visit to Iraq https://t.co/W9KFCmTIDq via @MailOnline
— NickTheDeplorable (@NicholasCain67) December 26, 2018IRA

rf121

Call sign is not Air Force One, thus the President is not on board.
Not if he was doing a clandestine visit.

rf121

NebraskaFilly

Good grief! Nothing but hate and snark in the comments – so disgusting!

Pat Frederick

thanks for the warning, I won’t bother to read.

rf121

So when you browse the twitter responses to PT, Sarah Sanders or any pro Trump supporters you will see the vile depths of TDS. The worst part is there is clearly no way to bring the two sides together on anything. This is Civil War level hate. The good news is most of the Vegans and soy boys are on their side.

Gudthots

Yes. Indeed. Love our Lion!

NYGuy54

Thank you. This is why you cannot believe anything in the media. We are not withdrawing any troops from Iraq. They are going to use the base there as a staging area for any potential move in Syria. Check out how close Iraq is to Syria.
The media, the neverTrumpers, and the fake MAGA people never tell you that.

Roberta

Looks like AF1 can be (and was) “cloaked” for this clandestine departure/arrival. Military planning at its finest.

Gudthots

Signing MAGA hats!

Gudthots

Our Lion LOVES that song. God Bless the USA!

Gudthots

Actual tweet by PDJT…

Pat Frederick

Dora says:
December 26, 2018 at 2:10 pm
UPDATE: Guatemalan Migrant Father Declined Treatment For Sick Child Before Death… https://t.co/cEhC9feeuv
— Drudge Report Feed (@drudgefeed) December 26, 2018
perhaps this was not the boy’s real father?

Gudthots

Talk about Multi-tasking!
Restoring Patriots brand. Check.
Destroying Democrats brand. Check.
Building Wall. Check.
Visiting Troops in Iraq. Check.
Taking down the Fed. Please wait while we load that page …

Gudthots

Today this link (older article) was re-tweeted… It is on people’s minds…
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ralphbenko/2017/02/25/president-trump-replace-the-dollar-with-gold-as-the-global-currency-to-make-america-great-again
Feb 25, 2017 “President Trump: Replace The Dollar With Gold As The Global Currency To Make America Great Again” — Ralph Benko

NYGuy54

This is flat out nuts

NYGuy54

sorry that was not supposed to be a reply

Pat Frederick

this is so cool!!!
III% says:
December 26, 2018 at 3:37 pm
The most profound 36 seconds of your day. You will not regret watching this. 2nd Amendment+USA 🇺🇸 pic.twitter.com/X9mtrCkG6e
— X Strategies (@XStrategiesDC) December 24, 2018

Pat Frederick

not sure what that means exactly, but did you get to see it?
an artist’s exhibit–of a gun…made of guns…and as the person capturing the exhibit on video rotates to see the side view, the image revealed is no longer a gun, but a map of the USA

NebraskaFilly

There y’a go – there is a gun pictured – bet that’s why! SMH

Pat Frederick

it’s a shame…it’s a work of art.
I didn’t realize the image was 3 D until the videographer moved to capture the side and he was also surprised to see that from the side, the image created is the USA…it’s very cool

churchmouse
PeteC

Amazing, CM!!! What a work of art and optics!

PeteC

And you too, Pat! Sorry!!!

Gudthots

Nicely packaged explanation for your friend who doesn’t have time to follow the important stuff. It’s a thread.
https://twitter.com/CatesDuane/status/1077978607211941890

Gudthots

For those that prefer threadreader…
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1077978607211941890.html

PeteC

Thank you, TTT, or if I may, 3T!!!!

Gudthots

That’s T*3 for you!

PeteC

Lol!!! Thank you T*3!!!!

tessa50

Oh no. Now I will have to find that lil doohickey you put there between the T and the 3. My poor eyeballs, lol.

Gudthots

Shift 8 … asterick

tessa50

Thank You!

Gudthots

Look!
It’s a theme…

Gudthots

Total CLASS. So much respect in that woman. God bless our FLOTUS!comment image

NYGuy54

So today’s media hissy fit is about a WSJ hit piece on AAG Matt Whitaker. The writer is claiming Whitaker lied and said he was an academic all american. Of course, everyone freaked out.
I did something very simple. I went to the University of Iowa and looked at his bio there. He was a Poly Sci teacher there and universities never update stuff in a timely way. Any reporter can do what I did.
Here’s what it said:
“Matt received his undergraduate degree in communications from Iowa in 1991 and his law degree and MBA from Iowa in 1995. He played football for Iowa (lettered three years at tight end) and was namihed Academic all-Big Ten in 1990, 91 & 92, and won the prestigious Big Ten Medal of Honor in 1993.”
So it makes no sense the correct bio is here and not elsewhere. Someone is lying.
https://clas.uiowa.edu/polisci/people/matthew-g-whitaker

NebraskaFilly
NebraskaFilly

Sorry – it is about a guy in the ocean who encountered an Orca.

Gil

I am overly wary of orcas. He was ponderi g if the guy was food. They eat blue whales, great whites, and seals. No thank you. Beautiful creatures that deserve protection but Ill keep my fistance.

NebraskaFilly

You and me both!!!

Sylvia Avery

CAN you be overly wary of orcas? I love them! But not to swim with. One would be uncomfortably aware of how breakfast-like you would appear to a gigantic sea creature out in the wild.

Gudthots

Truly looks like a serious situation. The orca may have been more curious than hungry, but to be the knee-boarder looks like a really big trolling bait.

NebraskaFilly

That’s what I thought – I couldn’t believe the boat took off pulling the guy! Should have got his azz into the dang boat, IMO. Idiots!

PeteC

Brings to mind Jonah and the whale, but better results for the surf boarder!

NebraskaFilly

Check out our troops’ reaction to POTUS and FLOTUS visit:

PeteC

Did I ever hear that chant from the troops when Obama was in office??? No, I didn’t think so!

NebraskaFilly

Oh, heck no! They were throwing hex signs behind his back and crossing their fingers in pics! Same w/Killary.

Sylvia Avery

That was so uplifting. The unceasing drum beat of Trump hatred makes it so very, very sweet to then see something like this. These are my people, not those silly simpering media yappers.

Gudthots

STOCK up on those WINNAMINs!

Sylvia Avery

Lots of volatility. Glad it went up again!

Gudthots

Loads of un-REAL-ized loss/gain going on. As they say.

churchmouse

At Christmas, a time of birth and (for sinning humanity) rebirth, here is something to ponder:
https://twitter.com/XStrategiesDC/status/1074525180020604929

PeteC

Brings tears to my eyes!!! WE MUST STOP THE INFANTICIDE!!!!
I had my only natural child with my second wife when I was 54. We determined we were going to let the Lord’s will be done as far as allowing or disallowing. My wife was at the upper end of her bearing years (42). He blessed us with a healthy girl who is now 10, but she keeps growing!!!! Which means Daddy is constantly buying new clothes, shoes, etc.! Lol

churchmouse

Aren’t you blessed, PeteC? You can afford to adorn your beloved daughter in the decent clothes she needs as and when. It’s a father’s prized responsibility, even if it doesn’t seem so right now.
In the not so distant future, you will come to treasure today’s expenditures as an investment well made.
‘We determined we were going to let the Lord’s will be done as far as allowing or disallowing. My wife was at the upper end of her bearing years (42).’ There you go. That says it all!
May the good Lord bless you and your family abundantly.
And, yes, as to your original thought, I wholeheartedly agree!!

PeteC

TY, CM!!!! No, total blessing! Daddy loves the fact he can supply her needs (with the Lord’s help!). I actually wanted a girl…didn’t even have a boys name picked out when she was born!

churchmouse

There you go.
Your daughter was meant for you!

PeteC

Clearly, we had no idea beforehand whether we were having a boy or girl. Didn’t want to know…just wanted a healthy baby… and my, is she ever healthy! Thank you, Lord!!!

churchmouse

Indeed, Pete!

singularZoe

Pete, you and your wife are blessed.

PeteC

Thank you, Zoe!!! Appreciate your input here!!!

Sylvia Avery

I can think of a bunch of crusty old feminazi celebs who need to sit down and watch this. Except they are undoubtedly beyond reach.
I always marvel that these old women with their withered, shriveled uteruses, are still stridently fighting for killing babies like this. In so many ways the world has moved on, but in their minds it is still 1969 and a young girl’s life could be ruined if she got pregnant out of wedlock. Now no one cares. It is practically a badge of honor. And there are people begging for babies to adopt.
Abortion needs to end. I do believe it will. I think it is already on its way out and soon we will see the end.

churchmouse

I, too, think abortion will end within our lifetimes.
Once statistics are continuously repeated, the horror will dawn on those who previously ignored them.
A related true story follows on the subject.
I remember during the 2008 presidential campaign there was an older (I think) lesbian by the pseud of Violet Socks who was very much pro-Palin and anti-abortion. She had her own pro-McCain/Palin website.
She no longer has her blog, which she closed soon after the 2008 election. She was emotionally crushed by Obama’s victory and had sincerely hoped that Palin would have won the day for McCain, as many ex-Hillary supporters (as she was) believed. She was part of the Democrat PUMA — Party Unity My A** — movement that was anti-O.
That year, Ms Socks disavowed herself of the Clintons and of abortion.
Her posts during 2008 reflected a growing influence of Sarah Palin’s pro-family stance.
I miss Violet Socks’s blog, which was erudite, stimulating and always interesting to read, even if some of the entries were about home crafts.
What I also remember, however, were other feminists and lesbians commenting there. Most were empathetic to Sarah Palin, however, not all.
Whilst you, I and many others think of American feminism as being a toxic, overly reheated TV dinner from the 1960s, there was once a comment on Violet’s site from an Eastern European woman who proudly announced that she had had not only one but SEVERAL ABORTIONS, because, what were they to her except — in her words — ‘A LUMP OF CELLS’, a ‘DEAD MASS’.
It sickened me to read that, as it did Violet Socks, who so liked Sarah Palin and came to value life in the womb.
It did not come as a surprise that Ms Socks stopped writing online — at least under that guise. She said that she just couldn’t deal with it anymore.
I’m not saying the Eastern European woman was the reason for the blog’s closure at all, but imagine how many similar comments Violet Socks had to read.
Ms Socks, a lesbian, became a pro-lifer.
The Lord works in mysterious ways, His wonders to perform.
Sarah Palin’s testimony changed one lesbian’s mind. Yet, Sarah Palin never met Violet Socks.
Each of us, through our Christian witness, should — via divine grace and prayer — be able to change at least one person’s mind in our lifetime, directly or indirectly.
Imagine that.
I pray that it happens for all of us here. May the Holy Spirit inspire us to give proper witness.
May we carry the Christmas story with us throughout the year. In Jesus’ name, Amen.

PeteC

Thank you, again, ChurchMouse, for your witness to Jesus Christ and human life that is defenseless!!! God bless you!!!!!!

churchmouse

Thank you, Pete — much appreciated!!

singularZoe

Appreciate that so much, PPete, really glad you post and comment here, too.

Plain Jane

Beautiful.

Sylvia Avery

So I am biased, I admit that, but honestly doesn’t it seem like PDJT has won the Christmas news cycle? He stays home because of the shut down, the family flies back from Mar A Lago, he signs a contract for additional border wall building, he and Melania take calls from kids to NORAD asking about Santa, they talk to troops on the phone, and then they do a secret visit to the Middle East to meet with troops. They have been everywhere. I’d say they have squeezed every bit of positive publicity out of staying home. I love it!
Oh, and I saw this morning where wah wah wah the President talked for six minutes to a seven year old girl and his language was appalling. I wondered what that was all about. Talk about a nothing burger! He asked her if she was a believer in Santa Claus and she said yes, and he said something like oh that’s good, at 7 years old that’s marginal and she agreed. I guess that he would even bring up belief in Santa was SHOCKING to these fools, and that he used the word marginal because as a child she would be clueless what that meant. Yeah, whatever. The girl’s parents thought the media was being silly, that they would hope Christmas could be a time without politics and they thought the call was nice and they talked to their children as adults–in short, who looked mean and petty? The media.
I love this President. And my First Lady.

PeteC

Amen, Sylvia A.!!!!

NYGuy54

Who likes making speculations based on old Q stuff? Because the President just went to Ramstein, Germany

Gil

Always many things at once. Delivery of messages in person…

churchmouse

More on the Roy Moore (R-AL) special election that he lost, thanks to a leftist’s chicanery. So a simple apology will do, will it? LinkedIn involved:
‘Liberal Billionaire Apologizes For “Russian Bot” Disinfo Campaign Tied To Hamilton 68’
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-26/liberal-billionaire-apologizes-russian-bot-disinfo-campaign-tied-hamilton-68
‘LinkedIn co-founder Reid Hoffman apologized Wednesday for funding an organization that was involved in an effort to spread disinformation targeting Republican Roy Moore in last year’s Alabama special election, while helping his Democratic opponent Doug Jones who narrowly won the race, according to the Washington Post.
‘Hoffman contributed $750,000 American Engagement Technologies (AET), of which $100,000 went towards cybersecurity firm New Knowledge, which created over 1,000 Russian-language Twitter accounts that followed Roy Moore overnight in order to link the embattled Republican candidate to Russian influence campaigns, according to a report last Wednesday in the New York Times.
‘Of note, New Knowledge CEO Jonathon Morgan – who was behind the Alabama election “Russian bot” scheme, “largely developed” the methods used by the “Hamilton 68″ website which purports to track Russian bot activity.
‘”Each of the above networks consisted of thousands of accounts. In order to identify the most relevant accounts for each, we employed social network analytical techniques largely developed by J.M. Berger and Jonathon Morgan.” -Securing Democracy
‘Hamilton 68 has been widely cited by the MSM to support claims of Russian influence in US politics – and reports on conservative websites purported to be Kremlin favorites …’
More at the link above.
In closing:

I’m not saying ‘yea’ or ‘nay’ for Roy Moore personally, but that election appears to have been meddled with.
Now what? Should the result stand?
If this is true, there should be a new election.
What say you?
More here:
https://voat.co/v/theawakening/2935978
‘All these lefty billionaire tamper with our elections all time with no punishment …’
Mmm-hmm.

churchmouse

Too right:

churchmouse

Judge Jeanine encourages border wall, shutdown:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/12/judge-jeanine-pirro-to-president-trump-keep-up-border-wall-shutdown-this-is-your-moment-in-history-video/
President Trump will visit the border:
The 45th President also said he will take a trip to the border in early January to inspect the progress being made.

churchmouse
churchmouse

NBC says PDJT did not visit troops at Christmas:

churchmouse

More Bravo Sierra on the same subject from Alyssa Milano:
https://twitter.com/PoliticalShort/status/1078022002642800640

churchmouse
churchmouse

Sorry for the repeat, meant to post Christmas retail sales:

churchmouse

So, Main Street was UP, as was Wall Street:

churchmouse

Spooky (no joke). PDJT voiced his concern not only for himself but everyone on board for the visit to US troops in Iraq:
https://twitter.com/breaking9111/status/1078047756562952192

churchmouse

Nice statement from Rep. Mark Meadows:

churchmouse

churchmouse

PeteC

Now I’m liking this thinking, ChurchMouse!!! I must say again (last time!!! Promise!), thank you for all the info and sources you bring here! You are all over the place! Love it!!!!!!

churchmouse

You are most welcome, PeteC!!
May God continue to bless you and your family abundantly!!

churchmouse

There’s more here (excerpted):
‘The cost of the wall is nothing compared to the yearly cost of illegal immigration’
https://www.conservativereview.com/news/the-cost-of-the-wall-is-nothing-compared-to-the-yearly-cost-of-illegal-immigration/
‘ … According to Steve Camarota of the Center for Immigration Studies, the lifetime cost of an illegal alien is $74,722. If the descendants of these illegal immigrants are factored into the equation, the cost increases to $94,391 per illegal alien. And if different methodologies are used to calculate the lifetime fiscal cost (not using net present value), the cost could be as high as $140,000-$150,000 per illegal, according to Camarota.
‘At one million illegal aliens every year, that is a cost of between $74 and $150 billion every year just for that year’s flow of illegal immigrants. And no, there are not only 12 million illegal immigrants in the country. When prompted by Steve King at the judiciary hearing, Nielsen admitted that there definitely are somewhere between 12 and 22 million, “higher than originally estimated.”
‘The cost of illegal immigration is so unconscionable that the media makes sure we never have the data and anecdotes that will force such a conversation. Now, with the fight over funding a border wall, is the time for that conversation.
‘Moreover, aside from preventing the cost of illegal immigration, by focusing our investment in border enforcement specifically on a border wall, which is an upfront non-reccurring cost for something that actually works, we will save billions in extra funding for the many other assets that have failed to secure the border. Just over the past decade, we have spent over $100 billion on different methods of security, but to no avail — all to avoid the $25 billion cost of building a security barrier. Then there is the crushing cost of detention and housing. Even before the flow of family units, according to the Washington Times, HHS paid over $1.4 billion last year to care for nearly 41,000 Unaccompanied Alien Children (UACs) in its facilities, who stayed 41 days on average, costing taxpayers about $670 per day for each child …’
Everyone who says ‘Cloward-Piven’ is correct!

PeteC

Yep, CM, this has been the leftists almost clandestine (silent) Cloward-Piven strategy. They will keep overloading the system until it is broke beyond repair! But…but…but…who will clean your house, who will mow your lawn, who will roof your house, who will wipe your butt when you are old??? The fallacious excuse used all the time by that Hispanic news guy on the Hispanic channel. While I golf, my wife mows our properties, my wife cleans our house…but I doubt she will wipe my butt when I’m old!!! LOL!

churchmouse

We have to make sure we are all sentient enough so that one of us can take care of the other (marriage vows) without outside help, heaven forfend!

PeteC

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! Perhaps this is where my young daughter comes in…thank you Lord! He does indeed work in mysterious ways!

churchmouse

Don’t tell her yet! 😉

churchmouse

Johnny

3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment! Beautiful!

churchmouse
PeteC

Melania who???? Or if they do, they will be appalled by her apparel and the fact she had desert type military boots on! What a shame for a First Lady to wear military type boots! Blah, blah, blah….puke, puke puke!

churchmouse

Wait for it in tomorrow’s news (no doubt).

NebraskaFilly

*sigh* Already saw those comments on a Tweet thread.

Sylvia Avery

You know, I was impressed and amazed when she landed on an aircraft carrier to visit. Surely a first for a First Lady? And I thought it was quite brave. And then I was commenting tonight at dinner that I was impressed she visited Iraq, something no other First Lady has done. Not even close.
I know I obsess over her clothes because they are gorgeous and fascinating to me, but she is a very impressive woman. Strong, courageous, beautiful. She is the best.

churchmouse

She is one of a kind — just like her husband.

churchmouse

churchmouse

Diamond and Silk as a question many of us are asking. I won’t get controversial here, but a former adminstration/cabinet member could have done something about this other that raise lawsuits:

churchmouse

Ocasio-Cortez likens the Holy Family to illegals:

wheatietoo

Not sure which one is the stupidest…Alyssa Milano or Occasional-Cortex.
It’s good to see how much she is getting roasted on twitter.

churchmouse

And how Occasional-Cortex hates it.
She’s been moaning about it for weeks on end.

PeteC

Between Occasional Cortex, Maxine Waters, and that Congressman who was fearful Guam might tip over from too many people … they sure have some sharp pencils on the desk over there on the Left!!!!

churchmouse

😆

tessa50

She worries me.

churchmouse

Me, too.

wheatietoo

And the moron known as Alyssa Milano, beclowned herself again:

churchmouse

What the heck is wrong with these people?

wheatietoo

Liberalism truly is a mental disorder.

churchmouse

I just call it Leftism now.
Liberalism — free thinking, free markets — has its good points. The Left co-opted the term (no surprise there) in the early 1970s, if not a few years before.
If one reads French media (just as an example), liberalism refers to free-market economics, not left-wing politics, which bolsters my point about saying Leftism instead of liberalism.
Leftoids no longer deserve the term ‘liberals’. They are anything but.

Linda

They’re a bunch of socialists and communists.

Sylvia Avery

Much like PDJT has given us permission to say Merry Christmas again, Wolfie gave us permission to call them Commies. To which I say, thank you wolfmoon!

wheatietoo

Yes!
And I think you nailed it, Daughn…
They tried to make the story about Them, by criticizing and then claiming that he only went because they criticized him.
I would add to your Notice to the media —
We think you are loathsome.

wheatietoo

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PeteC

Wow, Wheatie, how did we ever live through 8 years of a president like Obama??? What a God-send President Trump is!!! He has to know his life is in jeopardy every time he goes out. Pray the Lord watches over and protects this fearless man and his family!!!

wheatietoo

Amen to that, Pete…amen to that.

churchmouse

Supposedly, PDJT ended ‘catch and release’. If so, those apprehended are to be returned to Mexico or to their home countries:
‘MERRY CHRISTMAS! While Democrats Slept – President Trump Ended Disastrous Catch-and-Release Policies’
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/12/merry-christmas-while-democrats-were-sleeping-president-trump-ended-catch-and-release-policies/
‘While Democrats were sleeping and ruining Christmas for everyone else President Trump announced new changes to United States immigration procedures.
‘This is a much larger shift in policy than was originally reported by The Gateway Pundit back in November …
‘From now on illegal aliens caught entering the United States will be sent to wait in Mexico while their applications are processed. Once their “notice to appear” is available they will allowed in to attend their court hearing. Aliens without valid claims will be deported to their home countries.’

wheatietoo

Pres Trump and Flotus Melania in Germany:

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Sylvia Avery

They look so happy to be with him. Not just going through the motions.

wheatietoo

Earlier, in Iraq:

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wheatietoo

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wheatietoo

Yes he is!
And looks like he just came in off of patrol.

NebraskaFilly

Just read a comment on FB (Gorka’s feed) under this same picture about PDJT’s USSS not disarming every service member in the vicinity, as most past Presidents have done (with the exception of the Shrub.) Clinton and O.B.A.M.A – troops were disarmed!

wheatietoo

Oh that’s right…I had forgotten that HusseinO did that.
He would have everyone on a base disarmed while he was there!
I didn’t know that Clinton did that too.
It figures, though.

Marica

Daughn and Wheatie!! you guys ROCK! LOVE our military and our Commander In Chief!! AND your posts show that they LOVE him!!! I am LOVING my CHRISTMAS knowing that POTUS is in control! …I am looking forward to hanging at the Q Tree without distractions –Am I bad?

Linda

If you’re bad, Marica, then I’m absolutely terrible! 🙂