Dear MAGA: 20190209 Open Topic

 
Welcome! The door is open, come on inside.
This Comfy Q Tree Saturday open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on. Keep it civil. Rules much like the Old Treehouse, except of course, Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged.
Imagine that! You can talk about Q here…and you won’t get banned.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines that our host has asked us to observe, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this haven that Wolf has created for us.

Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:

I AM PRAYING FOR YOU.

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

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Is this guy awesome or what?

Whitaker_iu
“I’m not a puppet, little Eric Swilwall.”

WhitakerHumor_iu
This man deserves a medal for keeping a straight face during those absurd loaded questions.

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Did you ever think you’d be cheering on the black helicopters?

Dy2pPpfUYAEsEmp

What a week!

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Johnny

Too much postin’ going on here Wolf! We need some control.
Those whose license plates end with an odd number should post on odd days and even numbers on even days.
Whadya think?
/ 🙂 🙂 🙂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Posting control. Sounds very……. DEMOCRAT. 😉 I’m thinking HARD PASS ON THAT IDEA! 😀
LMAO!!!

Johnny

Yup!

ozzytrumpster

Hmm…… this dates me but I remember petrol tanker driver strikes in the eighties where you could only buy petrol on that system. Never want to do THAT shit again

Alison

Hey Johnny – how about everyone who is odd post on the odd days, and everyone who is a normie can post on even days. Nothin’ like a dose of identity politics to shake our branches 😂😂😂😂
I’m feelin’ giddy. I finally got around to reading Flep’s great post (yesterday) about the demise of the Dems, and the comment thread is a hoot. Found myself snorting too many times 🤓😎🤓😎
I love this place so much. Wolfie, you are a master at understanding the nuances of free speech and ‘open’ threads. Thank you for standing by your commitment. You should be very proud of what you have achieved. My MAGA hat is tipped to you.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Thanks, Alison! 😀

TatonkaWoman

But Alison…with your suggestion, we would only have posts here every other day. But I’m not going to say which day would be quiet. 😁😙

Johnny

We live in a tree.
We can use the sometimes-you-feel-like-a-nut, sometimes-you-don’t defense and post everyday anyway 🙂
/squirrelly, uh-huh

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. It’s a (n Almond) Joy to have Mounds of posts 🙂

Johnny

snicker

Alison

Yeah, I’m not saying either LOL

rayzorbak

Yesterday you posted only two times…..
Spilled Gravy all over the place….
Then left?

Emeraldstar

Sometimes I do “drive-by” posts myself … then return later, when time isn’t as pressing, to read and/or reply.
I thought the phrase “spilled gravy” was insightful!
Obviously, it was enough to characterize the situation – and what ought to be done! – to restore our natural harmony here. There was a bit of contention. Not much – but a bit.
We got through it!

rayzorbak

Yes we got through it…..
as we always do.
My contentention is she seemed to be put off by our in depth conversation about “religion”.
Crashed the Party……. then left.
Quenching the “Spirit” as it were.
We’ll just move on to the next thing as always 🙂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

THANK YOU, Wheatie! Ah – I had forgotten that I got a NIGHT OFF, and by Jove, it “FEELS GOOD, MAN!”, as the meme might say! 😀

Marica

I TOTALLY needed your wonderful tree Wheatie!!! HUGS and MOAR HUGS!!!!!!!

redlegleader68

Man, after that W, I think you just might need a smoke … Camel Regulars, wasn’t it? You can borrow my Zippo … 😉

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

“THANKS, MAN! THAT WAS SOME ROUGH DUTY!”comment image

redlegleader68

🙂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Cheering for the BLACK HELICOPTERS – yeah – THAT is something. LOL!!!

Sylvia Avery

Wheatie, I have missed almost entirely the helicopter story. Can you point me somewhere to read up? Bless you, dear.
And thank you for another wonderful cozy tree. Just looking at those comforts me.

Sylvia Avery

Never mind, I just got down to links you provided. Thanks! I’ll get caught up.

redlegleader68
Cuppa Covfefe

Wonder if they dropped in on Tommy’s (Tommyburgers, Beverly and Rampart). Best burgers in town; guaranteed heartburn, but worth it… They go great with Grape, Pineapple, or Strawberry soda 🙂

michaelh

What happened?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

People are thinking the alleged training exercise in LA was not a training exercise.

michaelh

Holy Beesting Batman!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The helos landed directly in front of Allison Mack’s lawyer’s office. This is cabal related somehow. Which side did the raid is a good question. Military people on the boards are convinced it was special forces and there was a true danger of losing somebody or something which is why they were flying in a city canyon where space gets tight real quick.

Plain Jane

Wowza. Thanks. I missed a bunch of stuff when our littlest grandson was here sor a couple of days.

judyw

So I am just re-posting this from last week for you….😉
Jane asked me to share some info I mentioned to her in a comment. I found the YouTube Videos and did a little more digging….
Remember the Q Post about “The Illusion of Choice” showed us that
6 Media Companies worldwide control 90% of what we read, watch, listen to.
Operation Mockingbird also determined that:
“Books are the most important weapon of a strategic long range propaganda plan”
The information in the videos below is sourced from the 4/26/1976 Final Report of the Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations (Combined Church Committee Reports)
Particularly, The Domestic Impact of Foreign Clandestine Operations: The CIA and academic institutions, the media and religious institutions.
Further drilling down to look at the publishing industry, we find only 3 Book Publishers are responsible for the “Bombshell Books” published in the aftermath of the 2016 U. S. Presidential election. Generally, the CIA subsidizes many authors sometimes with the author’s knowledge and sometimes without as it happens on the back end with the publishing houses.
Looking at all the connections caused my eyes to cross and my brain to freeze but it is a worthy project for later for me and would also be interesting for others to post their knowledge/findings….
1. Simon & Schuster – Founded in NYC in 1924 – 35 Imprints
CBS Subsidiary Since 2006
Published:
What Happened – HRC
Fear: Trump in the White House – Bob Woodward
*Unhinged – Omarosa Manigault Newman
*Under the imprint of Gallery Books
2. Holtzbrinck Publishing – Founded in Germany in 1948
Multiple Imprints Worldwide
Published:
Fire & Fury – Michael Wolff
(Under the imprint of Henry Holt & Company)
3. Macmillan Publishers – Founded in UK in 1843 – Multiple Imprints Worldwide
Holtzbrinck Publishing Group Subsidiary since 1999
Published:
*A Higher Loyalty – James Comey
*Under the imprint of Flatiron Books
These 3 Publishers – Simon & Schuster – Holtzbrinck – Macmillan
Also Publish History Books & School Books
Exposing Operation Mockingbird: Part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=YZRqWY5anHY
Exposing Operation Mockingbird: Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=mJHKQhVWd0E
Exposing Operation Mockingbird: Part 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=RYZN-lOz6CU

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Need a “Love” and “angry” button for this. At the same time.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Amen!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Good stuff. I kept thinking that “Hillary controlled the publishing world.” Now I see how and why.
KGB-CIA controls the publishing world, and SHE was THEIR candidate.

NebraskaFilly

Just a reminder: don’t forget about Pearson Publishing – publishes the majority of US textbooks

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes – THAT is very bogus.

Cuppa Covfefe

And M$ and Gates (and probably his foundation) are connected to Pearson is a BIIIIGGGGG way…
(e.g. all of the M$ certifications and training materials, etc.).

Plain Jane

Cuppa C mentions Gates. Wasn’t he hugely involved in transitioning texts out of elementary schools and pushing computers in place of texts, leading to parents really could not peruse texts which then in turn led to common core? Or did I just nightmare that up?

Cuppa Covfefe

@Plain Jane
That’s probably true. M$’s efforts with the Surface tablet (overpriced and unmaintainable, see ifixit.com’s opinion on it) are to edge in on the space that Apple has carved in the “Ed. Biz.”. The thing is, Steve Jobs did his utmost to make the kit actually work. Satan Nutella &co. : not so much… Nutella gives up WAYYYY to quickly. For example, the Windows (actually Nokia) phone. Great, well-thought-out user interface, INCREDIBLE camera and optics, but utterly NO EFFORT applied to market it… sad.
By moving texts out of the classroom (and everywhere else except “staging” for homes for sale), written records and knowledge are consigned to the evanescent world of “here now, gone tomorrow” enabled by the EEPROM world of Amazon and their Marxist cabal. They can also insert subtle (or not-so-subtle) messaging into the supposedly educational texts to reinforce their political motives…
Finally, and probably something that is not widely known, there was an effort to remove all textbooks and books in general published before 1995, due to the supposed lead content in the ink (and lead plates) used to print them.
Never mind the fact that the child in question would have had to consume a small library of books in order to reach the “poisonous” level posited by the SJW Marxists, the library crew wanted them out, and NOW!!!
With all but a very few of the original plates extant, this death knell meant the end for many Horatio Alger and other uplifting (and conservative) books for boys and girls, as well as the bulk of the “pre-moonshot” literature, itself an interesting perspective which is forever gone…
Fortunately saner minds prevailed, but not before many books ended up in the funeral pyre of honest and truthful literacy. Ray Bradbury (Fahrenheit 451 [the temperature at which paper spontaneously combusts]) is probably looking on in horror, but not surprise, at what has transpired since he authored that book…
Ironically, Bill Gates said in an interview that the most difficult part of the Encarta (encyclopaedia project) was that every country wanted to claim that it invented everything. Dealing with the politics was FAR more difficult than dealing with the technical and language issues.
Sad to say, I think Bill Gates started off as a decent person, a true geek, who was corrupted by money and the pursuit thereof. Oddly enough, Steve Jobs wasn’t, as he was in pursuit of technical perfection, but his New-Age beliefs didn’t help him in the end (or his end, for he will have to answer for that). I can remember looking (and buying) a newspaper outside of “Fry’s Electronics” in Fremont CA, the day that Steve Jobs “retired”. We were visiting my home stomping grounds on vacation. I said to my wife and son, “well, that’s the end”. They kind of wondered, “what do you mean by that?”.
Steve Jobs was Apple, and Apple was Steve Jobs. As a Silly Valley veteran, I saw Apple (and Next) rise from nothing, fail and fall, and recover. Many of my colleagues and friends worked there. And all of them knew the pursuit of excellence that was rare. And in a sense, that was the “day the music died”…
Micro$oft never had such a pursuit of excellence, as it either purchased, or copied and squeezed out of existence those whose products were better than Micro$oft’s. And I think they’re doing the same thing in the Ed. Biz., as are Pearson.
I love the game Monopoly, but I HATE MONOPOLIES!!!
Competition breeds innovation (as does necessity). Monopolies breed stagnation, and exorbitant prices. Just look at AMD versus Intel in the period between Phenom and Ryzen…
(Sorry for all the geekisms… Being a “child of the silly valley era”, I couldn’t help it)…

Plain Jane

Thanks loads Judy. I do appreciate all the effort you went through to give me this information.

Plain Jane

I got to watch the videos this afternoon. Great confirmation of what I learned but couldn’t have named companies, etc. precisely. Thanks again.

Sylvia Avery

Thanks Wheatie. I’ve been doing a decent job of getting caught up but I missed this somehow. Wow!

redlegleader68

Slyvia, see my link just above about this. There were many more helos involved and quite a lot of troops as well. Also, in the video I posted, you can see that the street was block off and that the last helo in had his warning lights on.

Sylvia Avery

Thanks RLL. This is one of those stories that is hard to believe, isn’t it? Except that as I grow more and more accustomed to the lies and deception our own government has used against us it becomes easier to see the suspicious elements, I find.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I knew there was a comment somewhere up here. Given what I’m seeing on other chat boards, the black helicopters may not be friendly. Here’s a Twinkie thread that’s worth going through:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1092933423482626053.html

rayzorbak

So this happened right after the SOTU?
Did VSG not say something about watching what happens AFTER the SOTU?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Another thread that is worth perusing for connections that may just be coincidence, but we can imagine probably aren’t:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1093716367742775297.html

rayzorbak

Thanks for the links…

Cuppa Covfefe

Wow. Lots of interesting stuff there, including a lot on Thomas V. Girardi:
Pic in tweet at comment image,
tweet itself at *https://twitter.com/MilspecP/status/1093910389933391873 :
This stuff (redeveloping an entire block) reads like an A-Team episode. Add to it the various shell companies, and what seem to be multiple instances of the same person (see comments on tweet as well), could there be ties to the Vegas massacre, drug trafficking/processing (Astex), DNA and/or Organ processing, and a host of other issues? Unilever (if it’s the same one) is a HUGE conglomerate with interests in food and drug industries, among others…
Interesting, one Thomas V. Girardi is in Las Vegas, BOD of Boyd Gaming Corporation
another, also in Las Vegas, BOD at MSW Inc.
another (?) in Tennessee at a publishing house
another in Dublin (Swallowell’s and Speier’s stomping grounds) at Astex Pharmaceuticals (close to AZTEC, eh?)
another in Hawaii, selling cars
the main id, in Los Angeles on Wilshire Blvd. (crap, I used to live VERY close to that site…yikes)
and another in Compton, at Spectrum Molecular Separations (could that be gene technic? DNA stuff?
Soylent green projects?
And finally, here’s a pic of Girardi and his wife’s special “Temple”. Kind of a “spirit cooking” sort of vibe?
(Pic is in the comments section of the tweet noted above):comment image

bflyjesusgrl

This had me cracking up!! One of Tucker’s best. Trump unleashed the Deep State after the Bezos Bear!!😂😂
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6000200571001/?playlist_id=5198073478001#sp=show-clips

Alison

Correct me if I’m wrong:
The guy who owns the National Enquirer is named Pecker.
The scandal is about Bezos’ Pecker.
The attorney Bezos hired is named DeBecker.
So we got Pecker Pecker & DeBecker …

TatonkaWoman

Oh my!!!

Johnny

Pecker Pecker & DeBecker? So they’re a toooool company?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

*snickers*

Cuppa Covfefe

Or poor typists…

judyw

Somebody needs to call Ben Dover and C. Howett Fields Law Office!

TatonkaWoman

Okay, hate to admit it, but that actually took me a minute!!

Marica

Thanks all ya’ll!! Coffee has been spewed!!! 🤣🤣🤣

churchmouse

True. This green plan is a mandate to ‘restructure’ American society. From a long and v. interesting thread:

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This woman is Hitler in a skirt!

michaelh

That thread really cuts to the chase:
As I was saying: you can’t hear the overton window moving hard left over all the laughter… by design.
Pay Attention: the GND isn’t about the environment, it’s about the economy.
Waleed got She Guevara elected. Justice Democrats are very bad news.
While our side is giggling, the other side is on a mission.
Instead of the new green deal, it should be called the new communist manifesto.
This resolution (manifesto) is meant to drive the conversation. It should be shredded, incinerated, and the ashes tossed into the sea.
Do. Not. Discuss. On. Merit.
Environmental Justice is redistribution.
The Sunrise Movement is part Occupy, part every other commie group bullying their agenda into the mainstream.
And Democrats are lining up to endorse this madness.
Quit laughing.
PAY ATTENTION.
Communism is knocking.
… More on the thread.
https://twitter.com/KaczTed/status/1093857702747561985
Donald Trump’s saying “America will never be a socialist country!” was way more effective at pushing back on the Left’s GND, AOC bulls*** than all your f***ing snark.

michaelh

Environmental Protection can only happen in the context of WEALTH.
POVERTY always exacerbates Environmental Degradation.
You cannot have a clean environment without WEALTH. A strong economy is a necessary precondition for environmental conservation – clean water, clean oceans, clean air.
Without wealth, no one has any money or resources to clean up. People who live in psychological poverty do not clean up after themselves.
ECONOMIC GROWTH is NOT the enemy of the ENVIRONMENT – IT IS THE SOLUTION.

churchmouse

Thanks, Michael.
One small quibble: I do feel queasy looking at a Twitter account named after the Unabomber.
Other than that, I agree 110%!
We can laugh to an extent (necessary sometimes) but we have to develop an effective offence strategy on this and be willing to go to the mat — figuratively speaking — for our beliefs.

phoenixRising

ooh wheatie… I waited up, just to see your tree !!!!!!!!!!!!
Beautiful… sooooo inviting. And, the door is open ! Wonderful.
Thanks for the photos of our AAG… my he is the epitome of “da Boss” – isn’t he?
Can’t wait for the coming week and more info on the helicopters…
Yes… what a week… SOTU the best ever.
Johnny, I agree about the posting! Tons of it, not enough time to read it all.
Wolfie, I’m delighted you have assistance so that you get some rest on the weekend… we don’t want to wear out the host. This community is growing so fast !
Still comfy as ever…

phoenixRising

indeed we do need a nickname for him…
I’m hoping that Barr keeps him on, maybe in Rosie’s place? Can’t imagine him disappearing behind a desk somewhere …

michaelh

Is “Mr. Clean” too obvious or already taken?

TatonkaWoman

Here’s hoping he turns out to be Mr. Clean-er.

realsauce

yep…thought that was it already

Johnny

His style, the way he was busting chops today, not smart-assedly but confidently, could be a good trait to emphasize with his nick.
He is certainly not PC 🙂

JasonD

Since he is clearly no fool, I think it is safe to say that he knew what he would be facing and was adequately prepared – like any adult should be. 🙂

michaelh

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TheseTruths

They were accusing him of slow-walking his answers, and part of the time, he was!
Sheila Jackson Lee asks a question and says it’s either yes or no.
Whitaker: “Congresswoman, I –”
Lee: “Yes or no.”
Whitaker: “Congresswoman, I –”
Lather, rinse, repeat, LOL.
His interactions with them was entertaining, but THEY were disgusting. They treated him as if he were a nobody, there to do their bidding. The format needs to be changed to allow the witness to give adequate answers. Many times Whitaker would be in the middle of a word and the questioner would cut him off and declare what his answer was (“That’s a no, then.”) when he said no such thing. The transcript will not be accurate in the least. I hope the meme-makers will get busy and put out some zingers.

TheseTruths

Yes!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

It’s very simple.
COMMUNISTS ARE EVIL.
And this includes the American variety, called DEMOCRATS.

NebraskaFilly

I think they were also trying to trap him into discussing on-going, classified investigations.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

It’s called exposing the opposition. Painful as it was to watch, the dive bomber was effective.
Personally, I’m not fond of such shows, but the tables were effectively turned.

Emeraldstar

“Lee: “Yes or no.””
I would answer like this:
“Congresswoman Lee, to continue, we must agree on the proper division of labor. *You* are in charge of the question … “and *I* am in charge of the answer. Period.
“Ask what you wish. And I will answer how I wish.”
I find it sickening how all these showboating tools attempt to deceive by rhetoric (“hot air”). It’s all LIES!
Cicero? (paraphrase) “Unless one masters rhetoric, one will be mastered by it.”
Whitaker did quite well.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Matt Whitaker = The Tank (?)

GA/FL

Matt Whitaker is known as ‘Matt the Mountain’ – played tight end for Iowa Hawkeyes in the Rose Bowl.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Whitaker

itswoot

“We’ve gotta figure out a nickname for Matt Whitaker.”
—————-
Maybe something related to Marshall Matt Dillon of “Gunsmoke” fame?
http://pdxretro.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/james-arness-1.jpg

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

He’s a dive bomber. He’ll be out next week. Maybe. I have a feeling yesterday’s show was part of “the plan.” He delivered pain.

Marica

DP–I think you are right! Q team: ” We need a distraction Friday”… Matt Whitaker–“I’ll take one for the team”… Louis Gohmert “Why are you on this suicide mission?” Matt Whitaker (in his head) “I am part of the plan to distract these idiots while Q team saves the country.”

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Exactly. He was there voluntarily. On a Friday when Congress is usually on their way home. That was no coincidence.

Pat Frederick

we got an animal theme going on with the admin…POTUS is our Lion, the economic team are wolverines, I like DP aerial suggestion…Condor? Raptor?

Marica

KONG?

Pat Frederick

I love this!!!!!
simple, effective. not to be trifled with!

Marica

Pat! I picture him DROPPING the Hammer –Truth Hammer!!

Emeraldstar

You did it again, Marica!
“KONG”
Unsurpassable …

Marica

Thanks ES!!!!!

Marica

Marica

EAGLE!! beautiful!! Great one Wheatie!!

Gil

Apparently the lego movie sequel is pushing toxic masculinity. Then theres this: the writers thought it would be cool to have RBG in lego form bc they would like to party with her. The toys are being pushed but the movie isnt as much. I think its going to bomb.
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/aoosas/its_okay_folks_rbg_is_alive_and_just_fine_just/?utm_source=reddit-android

phoenixRising

butterfly, they forgot her ‘dissent collar’ !

phoenixRising

oops, I meant Gil…
past my bedtime !

bflyjesusgrl

Cuppa Covfefe

More like “You GONE, girl”…

michaelh

Messing with LEGO is NOT cool.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Stepping on LEGO is even less cool.

Cuppa Covfefe

I can only say,
“LEGGGOOO my Lego!!!”.
SJW snowflakes have NO PLACE in the land of budding builders and engineers!!!
A few years back Lego (at least over here) had a Lego Technic Bulldozer that was actually sturdy and powerful enough to bulldze (OK, on a small scale) for real. Only thing that kept me from buying it for myself for my son’s birthday (JUST KIDDING!!!) was the price (€ 200.00 or so) and the fact that it had about 12 milllion parts. Would have been cool though, just like their London Bridge and Amusement Park, complete with working roller-coaster…
The “LegoLands” haven’t been the same since they sold them,either…
It’s yet another Scandanavian scandal…

Gil

Update article on the yorba linda plane crash.
Years before his plane plunged into an Orange County suburb, killing him and four others on the ground, Antonio Pastini was disciplined twice by federal regulators for flying in dangerous conditions and lying about his credentials, records show.
A spokesman for the Federal Aviation Administration told The Times on Friday that Pastini had twice submitted name changes to the agency, changing his name first in 1991 from Jordan Albert Isaacson to Jordan Ike Aaron, then in 2008 to Antonio Peter Pastini.
His license was suspended twice by the FAA when he was named Jordan Isaacson, according to records kept by the Library of Congress. In 1977, records show, he lost his license for 120 days after flying from Las Vegas to Long Beach in cloudy, icy conditions and lying to an air traffic controller about his credentials.
He falsely told the controller he had an “IFR clearance,” an administrative law judge wrote, meaning he had both the instruments and training to fly in low-visibility conditions.
“In short,” wrote the judge, Jerrell R. Davis, “he allowed his motivation to reach Long Beach to dictate that the flight should be made and continued.”
The disregard for airspace rules posed “a potential threat to himself, his passenger and other users of the system,” Davis said.
Three years later, his license was suspended for 30 days after Davis, who again was adjudicating his case, found his plane was behind on inspections, carried only an expired temporary registration and was leaking hydraulic fluid from a brake, records show.
The leaking brake and other technical problems made the plane “unairworthy,” Davis said.
The FAA confirmed to The Times that the pilot in the two incidents was Pastini, adding that the agency was not aware of other disciplinary actions against him.
Pastini was carrying this Chicago police badge when he crashed Sunday. (Orange County Sheriff’s Department)
Sunday afternoon, Pastini took off from Fullerton Municipal Airport in his Cessna 414. About 10 minutes later, his plane broke apart and showered a Yorba Linda neighborhood with burning wreckage. Pastini, 75, was killed, along with four people in a home that was struck and set on fire by the debris.
Investigators have not said what caused the crash. Sources have told The Times that they have no evidence the crash was anything but some type of accident and that there were no signs of foul play.
Investigators recovered credentials and a badge that led the Orange County Sheriff’s Department to identify Pastini as a retired Chicago police officer. His daughter, Julia Ackley, also described Pastini as a former Chicago cop.
Days later, Chicago police said Pastini never worked for them. The revelation casts into doubt two decades of interviews Pastini gave with newspapers in Nevada, where he lived and owned restaurants, describing himself as a veteran of the Chicago force.
He recounted to the Reno Gazette-Journal in 1997 a rollicking adolescence in Chicago, marked by rumbles between his Italian clan and the neighborhood Germans. They were all, in his own words, “bad kids.”
“We were a pretty well-organized, greased little group of thugs,” he said.
Despite his rough and tumble youth, he told the newspaper, he joined the Chicago police and served for 17 years before retiring in 1986 at the rank of detective sergeant.
Ackley, Pastini’s daughter, declined to speak to a reporter about her father’s name changes.
Pastini appears to have lived in Illinois, at least for a time. His 1980 discipline from the FAA was mailed to an address in Skokie, a village about 15 miles north of Chicago. When the FAA disciplined him in 1977, his address was in Long Beach, records show.
In a 2008 interview with the Nevada Appeal in Carson City, Pastini said he spent 21 years with the Chicago police. He attributed the success of his first restaurant — a Chicago-style deli in Reno — to his law enforcement background.
“A couple of cops came by and found out I used to be a cop too, and it became a cop hangout,” Pastini said. “It was good food. Great food.”
When the deli opened in 1991, the Reno Gazette-Journal published a story with the headline, “Ex-cop brings piece of Chicago with him.”
“Rather than nab criminals,” it begins, “former Chicago police officer Tony Pastini has turned in his badge and opened a Reno delicatessen.”
Pastini was carrying a Chicago police badge when he crashed Sunday. The owner had reported it lost in 1978, a spokeswoman for the Chicago Police Department said.
https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-yorba-linda-plane-pilot-20190208-story.html

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Knew there was more to learn about the crash. Remember the crash Q talked about?

Gil

Every time theres something written it gets more convoluted and I sense the writers still know more. This is a can o worms.

Gudthots

These days when I read an article that seems to have real details I can’t help but ask, is this a operation mockingbird hit piece like the Steel fiction? I have no reason to believe the story is fiction, but it sure has the cadence of one of those pieces.

Emeraldstar

The anons seem to think that this pilot was an “asset” for the See-Eye-Ay.
Multiple identities (name-changes, false badge), flying all over, and intentionally taken OUT.
Some anons are positing a connection to the Vegas incident.

Gudthots

Seems plausible on the face of it.

Gudthots

OUT as in tying up a loose end from the plot.

Gil

He was a restauranteur from nevada, reno. Possible connection to the partying spots of the shooter?
In CA, you dont get to jeep your badge like that.
It gets set in lucite when you retire. So having a badge like that raises red flags.

Gudthots

“Can a mother forget the baby at her breast
and have no compassion on the child she has borne?
Though she may forget,
I will not forget you!
See, I have engraved you on the palms of my hands;
your walls are ever before me.
Isaiah 49:15-16 (NIV)

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phoenixRising

Beautiful, as always t3…
thank you

Alison

Amen ✝️

judyw

Such a sweet pic! The daughter of a good friend of mine who died recently, read at her memorial service their “adapted version” of the children’s book LOVE YOU FOREVER by Robert Munsch that her Mom read to her as a child and this pic brought to mind the “theme” of the book:
“I’ll love you forever,
I’ll like you for always,
As long as I’m living,
my baby you’ll be.”

sobriquet3

I still have that wonderful little book. I gave it to my young son the same year it was published and It was a favorite bedtime read.

TakeBackOurRepublic

That’s a great book that I believe I bought at one of the school book fairs what seems like eons ago. I must’ve read it a couple hundred times to my two youngest sons. Pulled it back out a couple years ago to read to my granddaughter and I’ll be darned if it didn’t get me all choked up.

bflyjesusgrl

This Texas Butterfly has ZERO objections to this part of the Wall!!
Psst Dems, did you know Butterflies can fly???
🦋🦋🤗🤸‍♀️🤸‍♀️🤗🦋🦋 #MAGA #KAG
https://www.foxnews.com/us/as-border-wall-funding-divides-washington-new-multimillion-dollar-barrier-will-soon-break-ground-in-texas

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

That’s what I said. As long as the plants are relocated, I don’t have a problem with this. The butterflies will find them…just like they found my dill pot this past summer. Black swallowtail caterpillars DESTROYED it.

plateaufortrump

This is new territory for me to post at the beginning of a thread.
So we all have crazy thoughts and ideas and you may have noticed in my moniker a photo of Devil’s Tower National Monument. We have all heard that President Trump “deserves to be honored and added to Mount Rushmore” in the future…………..but my recommendation would be renaming the first national monument to TRUMP TOWER. The democrats already think of him as the devil and we think of him as a President that has risen above the landscape and towers over everyone.
BE IT HEREBY RESOLVED: I RECOMMEND AND PROCLAIM SAID DESIGNATION.
Good night and crazy dreams.

Johnny

Plenty of rocks out there that could become Trump Tower .
The greens would be offended 🙂 That’s a plus!
And for the record,I love the tree and just wanted to tell everyone that my room is upstairs on the right, the far right 🙂

michaelh

I’m a little late to the party on this – but still wanted to get this out there:
Parents, educators should scrutinize concepts of gender and sexual identity in state’s health education framework
Framework creates guidelines for curriculum in California’s K-12 schools
DECEMBER 19, 2018
BRENDA LEBSACK
https://edsource.org/2018/parents-educators-should-scrutinize-concepts-of-gender-and-sexual-identity-in-states-health-education-framework/606025comment image

As a public educator for over 20 years, some changes in the proposed California Health Framework concern me. The new draft not only creates teaching guidelines for health education, but could also impact Social Studies and English Language Arts through new concepts and book recommendations.
Since few people will read the nearly 1,000-page draft, which unfortunately is only available in English, I am sharing below some examples that parents and educators may be especially interested in. Because the California Department of Education is inviting public comment on the draft, I urge all California residents to review the framework and provide input.
The draft includes controversial teaching about sexual relations, sexual orientation and gender. In Chapter Five, Line 925, it states, “Some students may be non-monogamous and the term ‘partner(s)’ may be used to be more inclusive.” According to one resource for LGBTQ terms and definitions, recommended by GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian, Straight Education Network), the polyamorous sexual orientation is defined as “the practice of, desire to, or orientation toward having consensual non-monogamous relationships (i.e. relationships that may include multiple partners). This may include open relationships, polyfidelity (which involves more than two people being in romantic and/or sexual relationships which is not open to additional partners), amongst many other set-ups.”
In Chapter 3, Line 1847, the draft recommends the book Who Are You? for pre-K–3rd graders as a “guide” to develop their gender identity. This book introduces young children to the idea that gender is a spectrum. This means genders are unlimited and ever-expanding, rather than confined to two biological genders. In the book, gender is described as, “boy, girl, both, neither, trans, genderqueer, non-binary, gender fluid, transgender, gender neutral, agender, neutrois, bigender, third gender, two spirit…” In Chapter 5, Line 643, the draft introduces sexual orientations as a spectrum as well. LGBTQ+ is defined as an ever-changing spectrum with expanding concepts to include “queer, questioning, intersex, asexual, allies and alternative identities (LGBTQQIAA).” Other sexual orientations introduced in Chapter 6, Line 938 include “pansexual and polysexual.”
Many parents have never heard quite a few of these terms before and many of them are not in the English dictionary. While parents may assume they can opt out of this instruction, as they can with sexual health education and HIV prevention, this simply is not true. Instruction about gender or sexual orientations that is implemented through the adoption of the framework is exempted from parent notification and opt out requirements (California Education Code 51932b). According to The California Safe School Coalition, state law provides that “instruction or materials that discuss gender, sexual orientation, or family life and do not discuss human reproductive organs and their functions” are not subject to parental notice and opt-out laws.

Gudthots

Lord, raise up a righteous remnant in the Golden State!
To turn back the tide of darkness and shine forth with Your brightness.comment image

ozzytrumpster

Wtf?

TakeBackOurRepublic

Thank you michaelh, this is an extremely important subject. Two things jump out which leads me to CSE:
In Chapter 3, Line 1847, the draft recommends the book Who Are You? for pre-K–3rd graders as a “guide” to develop their gender identity.
and
Instruction about gender or sexual orientations that is implemented through the adoption of the framework is exempted from parent notification and opt out requirements (California Education Code 51932b).
California laws usurp the parents authority of their children’s “sex education” beginning at age 4 and there’s no opt out. WTF!
These sexuality programs, posing as what us old timers think of as sex ed, are being implemented across the country (and world) using a variety of names but at the core they are the same. The organizations responsible for their implementation are Planned Parenthood, International Planned Parenthood Federation, and Sexuality Information and Education Council of the United States (SIECUS) all following the fraudulent research of the Kinsey Institute.
The commies want our children sexually programmed beginning barely after birth (if they make it past infanticide). I’ve posted a link to CSE several times before but it bears repeating again and again because we need to be AWARE of the origins of this sh*t. CSE (Comprehensive Sexuality Education) is rights-based sexuality education for children for the purpose of indoctrinating them with regard to their alleged human right to sexual pleasure, pushing forward promiscuity, the LGBT agenda, and promoting abortion rights.
“Comprehensive sexuality education (CSE) is vastly different from standard sex-ed instruction. Although CSE instruction will include most of the instruction covered by Sex Ed programs, it typically does not include abstinence education in any depth, and it will go much further using graphic materials and visuals that are sexually explicit in nature.
The ultimate goal of CSE is to change the sexual and gender norms of society. CSE is a “rights-based” approach to sexuality education and promotes sexual rights to children at the expense of their sexual health.”
Please, go to the CSE link to learn more. Find time to watch the documentary, it’s chilling. And share with all your friends and family.
https://www.comprehensivesexualityeducation.org/cse-facts/

Gil

I cant send mine to public school. This is the type of stuff I know is totally wrong. Yet people allow it to be taught.

TakeBackOurRepublic

I think a lot of people don’t know (or pay attention) to what’s really going on in our schools. Common Core, CSE and the teachings of Islam are 3 major reasons to home or private school.

michaelh

Thanks for your comment on that! That’s very helpful and I will share this information!
Looking back I did catch some chatter on that website back in April when KXAN in Austin reported on the Sex Ed Sit Out. Their reporting was of course completely skewed and biased – they gave all these school sex ed programs a whitewash while misrepresenting the opposition. Narrative engineering, not journalism – anyway the article from April is here:
https://www.kxan.com/news/local/austin/parents-protest-graphic-sex-ed-taught-at-public-schools/1135867654
Can you tell me where you are posting information so I can make sure I’m getting the message? This is the kind of thing that requires re-sharing and amplification.
Also as a general reminder to everyone: We cannot trust social media as our means for keeping informed of grassroots issues the MSM refuses to report on! Always make sure you are directly subscribed to the organization’s mailing lists to follow – not just following on Twitter or Facebook.

TakeBackOurRepublic

I’ve heard that Austin has become a liberal hotbed so it isn’t a surprise it would be a test area for implementation. It’s encouraging that parents protested even though the media whitewashed it. At least it gets other parents to wake up. The opposition needs to grow fast nationwide against this disgusting indoctrination.
I only thought to share the link to CSE because your post was a trigger. I really don’t post on any other site but here except on rare occasions.
Since I’ve had my own kids out of school for quite a few years, I was gobsmacked to find out what is entailed in Comprehensive Sexuality Eduation. Sex ed has been transformed into a devious program, right under parent’s noses, to teach children to be sexual in whatever gender they want to be, in any manner whenever, wherever, with whoever human or object they feel like. The messages are many but the primary one is that sexuality is a child’s right and the parents have no say (cannot opt their child out). WTF?! I should’ve realized that there was a nefarious agenda in the push to acknowledge and cater to these newest special classes being pushed down our throats (LGTB, etc.). This agenda boomerangs right back to the normalization of pedophilia.

Cuppa Covfefe

Over here in “descending into debauchery Deutschland”, they have a similar curriculum.
For 0 (yes, ZERO) to 6-year-olds. Our Kindergartens/daycare [to keep the kids away from their mothers so their mothers can work] “Kitas” (Kindertagesstätten) start at TWO YEARS OLD. In some states they’re optional, in others, thanks to the left and the Greens, they’re not (e.g. Berlin and NordRhein Westphalen).
There is a HUGE hue and cry and protests from Christians here (my wife is involved in them, at least electronically), but the state (yep, Merde-kel) so far don’t care. And over here, homeschooling is still illegal (gee thanks, Hitler).
Still waiting and praying for the AfD to take our country back to where it should be. Elections coming in a couple of more conservative (ex-DDR) states this year, so the AfD should pick up some seats. MGGA!
People are getting “woke”, but it’s a long process…

michaelh

I think we’re going to have to BREAK the EU and Germany the same way we’re breaking CANADA, CHINA, and NEW YORK STATE.
Until the money stops flowing, the elitist scum won’t change.
Sad to say, but pain is coming… we’re taking away the automotive industry. They’ve already gotten their wake up call.

TakeBackOurRepublic

What you say makes me feel double lucky to be in America with Trump fighting for us. You definitely need someone like him to MGGA and give Merkel the boot (or the brig) for what she’s done to destroy Germany especially with the importation of fake refugees whose needs are given priority over the citizens from what I understand. Thanks for sharing information that is almost impossible to be aware of considering the worldwide media is in collusion on behalf of the globalists to report the truth. I hope your countrymen and woman wake up fast.

Cuppa Covfefe

Thanks. There are a few, truthful media outlets (www.jungefreiheit.de, and, to a lesser extent, http://www.welt.de ), but we have the same YSM problem as everyone else. And we need a MIRACLE, not a Merkel.
Merde-kel is a strong proponent (globalist puppet) of the Coudenhove-Kalergi ideology, which seeks to reverse the Tower of Babel (!) and meld the races all back togerher into an inderterminate shade of complicit, weak, brownish grey.
Useful idiots, indeed.
People here are getting “woke”, slowly but surely, but the brainwashing, indoctrination, and outright Marxism (and Hegelian Dialektik) have been going on since before the USA was a country. In short, there’s a lot of damage which needs to be undone, and repaired.
And the folks here know it. It’s just a matter of draining our swamp, which is particularly murky.
We could REALLY use a Trump (Trumpf? “Drumpf” is not a name here) clone, or someone similar. The left have made Germans afraid to be proud of their national heritage; as if the history of Germany was only from 1910 or so to 1945. Seems that Beethoven, Goethe, Brahms, Schiller, Hesse, Luther, and a host of others (Einstein, Heisenberg, von Braun, et. al.) have been forgotten…
Then again, with all the gender.bender, sex-ed, and animal-rights crud that needs to be taught in the schools nowadays, it’s a wonder that the kids can even tie their shoes, let alone derive a formula, do a mathematical proof, or write a convincing essay about a novel or person… sigh…

TakeBackOurRepublic

I would love to meet you, I think we must be kindred spirits (plus I am of German heritage!). They are intentionally rewriting history in an attempt to make us focus on certain things significant to their globalist agenda. Little did they predict that the internet would replace their propaganda with truth and unite the world for their defeat.

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. After they get Paedophilia done and dusted, Polyamory is their next goal, followed (or paralled) by bestiality.
Sodom-by-the-Bay is losing no time in spreading their perversions (and New Age, but I repeat myself) far and wide…

michaelh

San Fran is overdue for a big earthquake.

Cuppa Covfefe

Trouble is, it’s a slip-strike fault, so no Pacific Ocean or SF Bay “bath”.
Also, I have family there, so I’d prefer for them to not get hit. Even though most of them are *cough* left of center…

kinthenorthwest

OK had to share…bet there are enough of these to make a whole separate forum LOL
https://twitter.com/GracieLovesUSA/status/1094117773582594048

Cuppa Covfefe

Somehow that cow looks like Øl’ Jugears himself…

TheseTruths

Unbelievable that the FBI didn’t confiscate the security footage.

TatonkaWoman

Maybe there was a reason they didn’t…..

singingsoul

TheseTruths
“Unbelievable that the FBI didn’t confiscate the security footage.”
________________________________________
That surely is!
Even more unbelievable is that the FBI ignored the camera man filming on the opposite side of the house.
They did not seem to worry about their security or anyone else’s by letting media film the whole thing.
In my option they knew who it was and they had nothing to fear from the media.
The FBI now share their style of apprehending political opposition with Gestapo, Stasi and KGB.
I hope FBI is proud of themselves and I am glad that the whole world sees that we are hypocritical and have sunken to banana republic police state. This is now the truth and many do not want to hear truth.
We have been so in a slumber and waking to the reality is mind numbing. Those of us who have heard first hand stories or have seen with our own eyes tactics under oppressive regimes find it spine chilling and understand the implications on a deep level.
I am not sure that majority of Americans can grasp this what is happening in this country not their fault.
How did we get her from a free country to this..? Who brought us to this place and why..?

NebraskaFilly

We have been the frogs simmering in that pot for generations.

scott467

Yep!
Ribbit…

michaelh

The Party of Abortion and … Infanticide?
The murder of babies is an atrocity too far, but will Senate Democrats agree?
PRI Staff
FEBRUARY 5, 2019
https://www.pop.org/the-party-of-abortion-and-infanticide/

We never thought we would miss Bill Clinton (and we still don’t, really). But it is worth noting that his position that abortion should be “safe, legal and rare” is now officially not welcome in the Democrat Party of today. Instead, woke Democrats are increasingly embracing the radical position that all abortions should be legal, even those that result in the deaths of full-term, healthy infants.
All the more reason why Congress should immediately pass the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Act (S. 130). The bill would establish criminal penalties for any health care practitioner in the U.S. who neglects, intentionally kills, or fails to provide standard medical care to any child born alive following an induced abortion. The bill would also require health care workers to report to state or federal authorities any cases where infants born alive were not provided the necessary care.
“Everyone in the Senate ought to be able to say unequivocally that killing that little baby is wrong,” Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE), the bill’s sponsor, said in a statement, “This shouldn’t be complicated.”
But it may be. […]

Statements made by the sponsor of the Virginia Repeal Act, Delegate Kathy Tran (D-Fairfax), caused a media firestorm last week after Republican state Delegate Todd Gilbert asked her whether the bill would allow abortion “Where it’s obvious a woman is about to give birth… She’s dilating.” Shockingly, Tran replied, “My bill would allow that, yes.”
Amidst public outcry over Tran’s comments, Virginia Governor Ralph Northam defended the bill in a radio interview the very next day, saying that third trimester abortions are “decisions [that] should be made by providers…and the mothers.” It goes without saying that a baby is fully formed and capable of surviving outside its mother’s womb even before the third trimester.
But Gov. Northam didn’t stop there. “If a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen,” Northam continued, “the infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and mother.”
The infant would be resuscitated “if that’s what the mother and the family desired”? Since when did allowing a child to live become a family decision? While an infant born alive and breathing is in need of care and attention, parents and doctors would instead be debating whether to let the child live or die. This is sickening.
Indeed, what Gov. Northam is advocating for is infanticide, pure and simple. Gov. Northam should immediately retract his grossly irresponsible support of the Repeal Act and should publicly apologize for his reckless and perilous endorsement of infanticide.

singingsoul

Concerning killing babies.
Our country has lost its ethical moral compass.

singingsoul

PS. Just think we voted people into Congress who have no moral compass and think most are churched.
Not only has the society morally broken down so has the church.

Emeraldstar

“Our country has lost its ethical moral compass.”
I know it may seem that way, but I think we are re-discovering our moral compass. Too many, for too long, have – as a minority – dominated the (mis-/dis-)information we receive.
The internet has changed this.
Evil tries VERY HARD to appear greater than it is – to demoralize, to subjugate, and to take control.
We are fighting BACK!!! They aren’t so strong!
We see, time and time again, way too many people falling for the lure of power, and once they achieve it, they demonstrate that they are wholly un-deserving of it.
We are re-claiming our Republic. ALMOST it was lost: HRC would have been the final nail in the coffin of America. I *still* believe that “Plan Z” would have been activated, had the Hildebeast (ostensibly) won.
We won the Presidency in 2016. We won the Senate in 2018. Both events were dicey … yet we prevailed.
And, we’ll win the WAR before long as well. By the 2020 Election, I believe, AND, the period between 2021 and 2024 will be the GRAVY.
We’ll make it, singingsoul! Take heart! And God bless …

michaelh

Our Revolutionary American Creed: Every Life Matters
FEBRUARY 5, 2019BY JOSH HAWLEY
https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2019/02/49317/
On February 4th, 2019, U.S. Senator Josh Hawley delivered the following remarks in support of the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act.comment image

Mr. President, I rise in support of S.130, which I am proud to cosponsor. This legislation would ensure that healthcare providers treat babies who have been born alive, after failed abortion attempts, with the same care they would treat any other baby born at the same stage of pregnancy. […]
In one sense, it is very hard to imagine this legislation is even necessary in the United States of America. In the twenty-first century, when, every day, new, advanced technologies bring new revelations about the wonders of human life, it is hard to fathom the extremism of the politicians in New York and now in Virginia who would deny the protections of law to the most vulnerable members of our society—the innocent unborn—and allow them to be aborted, allow them to be killed right up to the moment of birth. It is hard to comprehend statements like those of Ralph Northam’s, the Virginia Governor, who said that if he had his way, infants who survived abortion attempts would be delivered and kept comfortable—that is his word—while the doctors and the parents decided their fate.
Is this really what it has come to in the United States? Is this really the social vision of today’s Democratic Party? Frankly, I can’t imagine a vision less just or less consistent with the goodness and compassion of the American people. […]
We here in the United States of America hold to a different conviction. Our Constitution was written and the whole edifice of American liberty depends on a very different belief, on a belief that is as simple as it is powerful—that every life matters. We believe and it is our pride to believe that every person has dignity and worth—worth that is not given to one by the strong or the rich, that does not come to one from the State or the city, that does not depend on place of birth or social status, but is one’s by right because of who one is—a human being created in the image of the living God. […]
Yes, we have struggled to realize it in this Nation. We have struggled to make it real, and we have fallen short many times, but this struggle for this faith defines our history and binds us together as Americans, and this faith is again at issue in our time.
I know some are tempted, when they see this rising tide of barbarism and cruelty, to feel despair, but I do not. I think of the words of Lincoln, who spoke of the unfinished work of this Nation, and I take courage that all of these years later, we are a revolutionary nation still.
So we must press forward in this generation for our revolutionary faith. Let us not go back to the darkness and cruelty of the past. Let us not go back to the arbitrary rule of the powerful and the few. Let us affirm again our founding belief in the equal worth and equal dignity of all. As we do, we will do our part for liberty and justice in our day.
I yield the floor.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Against my better judgment I post here, to clarify a few points.
1) I believed that closing the comments section on my post would create less fuss. I was wrong about that, bigtime. I apologize for that error in judgment.
2) A few people have wandered over to my defunct blog and found that old abortion article that I wrote, back when I was dogmatically pro-choice. This was years ago.
I am no longer dogmatically pro choice; I no longer stand by that article (I will caveat by saying that I still have no problem with extremely early term abortions). I currently find extreme late term abortions to be a barbarity. Furthermore, even then I did *not* support killing born children. Someone expressed regret that I didn’t stick around to be converted; at least with regard to the New York late term abortion bill; he can put himself at ease; I oppose the bill (now law).
I perhaps (I’m not going to go and check) misused the term zygote in that article; it certainly caused outrage over here. It’s a technical biological term for the fertilized ovum, before it has even divided the first time (after which it’s an embryo, then a fetus, then after birth, an infant).
I will repeat again, I am emphatically opposed to the New York measure. My concern in objecting to the word “infanticide” was a combination of not wanting to devalue the word “infanticide,” and worry that our use of the word here, would cause people to dismiss us as hysterics when we had an actual infanticide bill in front of us, like that…disgusting piece of work…in Virginia wants.
Should you doubt that I no longer stand by that article, I am pretty sure if you look at LP’s post, I *did* say it was appropriate to refer to the (pre-born) child AS a child and AS a baby (something I urged the pro-choice movement to fight against); it’s just that infant has a more specific meaning, referring to a very specific period of childhood, after birth (and generally before the first birthday).
Actually, there is ONE aspect of that article I do continue to stand behind. It was intended as a warning to the pro-choice side that they would lose the argument as long as they don’t confront the pro-life side’s terminology. I still believe that, but now I largely celebrate it rather than regret it. (Again with the caveat that extreme early term abortion still does not grieve me–but the New York measure goes far beyond that.)
I am going to go post a similar notice to this above the article itself. I should have done that years and years ago, and I want to thank those of you who are condemning me now for bringing it to my attention.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I will resist the urge to joke about your being back so soon, but WILL say thanks for the clarification!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I will resist the urge to joke about your being back so soon

Well that would be why it was “against my better judgment”–but that old article is hideous; not just strident as hell in tone but just…wrong.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Nothing wrong with setting the record straight!!!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Check your gab!

JasonD

It is actually pretty cool to have a record of one’s opinions / beliefs from times past in order to appreciate how much we change over time.
I like to think I have a pretty good idea of the many different persons I have been over time, and how I have evolved to today.
Ain’t life great?!!

TatonkaWoman

Steve, I interpreted Wolf’s joke comment as one of friendship. Sort of “glad to see you.”. Anyway that just takes us back to the discussion of how people interpret things – words and comments – often through some form of emotional structure.
I’m so glad you did come back to clarify your position today versus what was said in that article. For one thing I was just surprised that article was the “you” I’ve come to know since your early days at CTH, and then here.
And while you’re here…let me add that I do support your comment about the use of the word infanticide. It is, in my mind, one step beyond abortion…and exactly where they are trying to now take us. And they are already trying to take us another step beyond that with voices now advocating for childhood “abortion” – properly called murder – up to 2 and 3 years old!!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Steve, I interpreted Wolf’s joke comment as one of friendship. Sort of “glad to see you.”.

As did I.
I once had a Brit (now working on becoming a US citizen) tell me that Americans in general simply don’t “do” irony well if at all; it hasn’t stopped me from trying.

It is, in my mind, one step beyond abortion…and exactly where they are trying to now take us. And they are already trying to take us another step beyond that with voices now advocating for childhood “abortion” – properly called murder – up to 2 and 3 years old!!

The slippery slope effect is DEFINITELY in play here and I believe, in my very first comment on LP’s article, I said I agreed she had made a VERY strong argument as to what was happening.
“childhood abortion” is simply a contradiction in terms–“childhood” being generally used for post-birth development; abortion by definition is pre-birth. It really IS infanticide.

NebraskaFilly

I hope you stay, Steve. Really……

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Can be reached on Gab still.

TatonkaWoman

I will ditto that.

Pat Frederick

Steve, I don’t gab…I don’t tweet…and it’s a tough job keeping Marica happy…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

@Pat Frederick
I went over to yesterday’s thread just now and discovered, to my horror, that Marica was sick of the joke. I’d have stopped INSTANTLY if I had known. The ONLY hint I had was someone else’s complaint that THEY thought it was getting old, used in a multi-part attack on me, and I was advised by others to simply disregard it.
Note that she’s said not one word to or about me since my Fare Well post. I don’t believe I can count her as a friend any more.
Sorry, Marica.

NebraskaFilly

Huh? She is sick of the “Morose Merica” joke? I didn’t know that……well, gee, why didn’t she just say something before now?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Every indication…every indication…that I had was that she was enjoying the whole thing.
I can’t stand it when this happens.

NebraskaFilly

Same here, Steve! Why do people feel they must keep silent about such things? It is quite possible to let someone know without being snarky or hurtful about it.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Can you meet me over in Gab land?

NebraskaFilly

I’ll give it a shot. Getting something to eat @ the moment. BTW, I am @NebraskaBred on Gab.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yeah, I’ve opened a chat, we’re following each other already.

NebraskaFilly

Um…how does one get to your “chat?”

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The messages icon at the top should have a red mark on it, click on that, then click on the line on the left with my name on it.

scott467

“And they are already trying to take us another step beyond that with voices now advocating for childhood “abortion” – properly called murder – up to 2 and 3 years old!!”
__________________
If we had an actual Attorney General, of any kind whatsoever, he would hold a press conference and say “Look, I’m not sure what kind of degenerative mental disease has struck the Democrat party, but if anyone tries to kill a living infant outside the womb, I will prosecute that person for premeditated 1st, 2nd and 3rd degree murder, along with less common charges like crimes against humanity, depraved degeneracy, and human sacrifice.
I will make it my life’s mission to hunt these monsters from the face of the earth, seeking the death penalty in each and every case, including everyone involved — the nurses, assistants, doctors, the janitor working down the hall, and the mother.
All of them.
Death row.
If I haven’t made myself clear, try me.
I will unleash a can of whoop-ass on your world from which you will never recover.

JasonD

Hi Steve, good to see you here, even if only briefly. I will be starting my blog sometime in March, and hope to engage with you there, if it can’t happen here.
Will drop you a line in your blog when I kick it off – hopefully you will see it. Stay well.

TheseTruths

Hey, Steve. It’s good to get your current perspective. You say:
“it’s just that infant has a more specific meaning, referring to a very specific period of childhood, after birth (and generally before the first birthday).”
It looks as if you would reserve the term “infant” for a baby that has been born and is no longer in the womb. Dictionary.com agrees:
noun
1. a child during the earliest period of its life, especially before he or she can walk; baby.
2. Law . a person who is not of full age, especially one who has not reached the age of 18 years; a minor.
This is difficult to even talk about, but there doesn’t seem to be a term, besides “abortion,” for the killing of a baby or child before birth. There is no baby-cie or child-cide. The term “abortion” does not convey the horrors that take place, and I think people want a more relatable, accurately descriptive term. If “infanticide” is not appropriae in those cases, do you know of a term that would be?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I can’t think of a single word, honestly, but “dismembering and killing an unborn child shortly before birth” would cover it nicely.

TheseTruths

Yes, it would.

churchmouse

You’re back! 🙂
I really hope you continue to comment here, SteveInCO!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

No, I’m not really back. I had to pop in to correct a serious issue, one (ultimately) of my own making. That done, I go back to being gone.
My commentary post “Fare Well” is limited to this one branch of today’s comments and a branch late in the day yesterday. Someone found a perfect awful thing I had written years ago, and drawn entirely justified conclusions from it. I say “justified” because it, by all appearances, was the best piece of evidence they had ever seen as to my state of mind.
I’ve been on other forums where a large number of people are “drama queens” throwing a tantrum and leaving, only to return two weeks to two months later, and repeating the cycle. Normally, when I finally decide I must make a break, I make it clean, without any sort of explanation at all, and NEVER return again. I’ve now violated both of those rules here, but it was, I thought, necessary, in both cases.
But now I’ve set the record straight, and off I go once again.

churchmouse

Thank you for the explanation, SteveInCO.
While this is not my site — and apologies to Wolfmoon if I am speaking out of turn — many of us would enjoy your participation here once again.
The same goes for Nebraska Filly.
My very best wishes to you both.

Elizabeth Carter

Hi Steve, As you can see, everyone is happy to see you. It seems you are a member of the Q
Tree family.
The best thing about real families is that we are not clones. We do not agree on everything all the time and we change as we grow. But even when we disagree, we love each other and miss being together.
We all learn and grow best in a safe environment. If we can’t say what we believe and be ourselves, then we are just a pretend family.
Thanks to Wolfmoon, the Q Tree is our safe space. We are always welcome to come and go as we please. Of course when we return from adventures, it is polite to bring enough treats for everyone along with stories to share.
I am happy to see you back home again.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Sorry to disappoint you but see my reply to Churchmouse, above.
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/02/09/dear-maga-20190209-open-topic/comment-page-1/#comment-68270

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Not a problem, Steve. Had no idea of an old blog or article. And I never thought you were supporting abortion for viable infants. Oftentimes, the meaning of words do change. As I noted earlier in yesterday’s thread, in medicine and science – the killing of babies is considered “infanticide” – whether in the womb or not. Legally, as defined in legislation is where there is a distinction, but otherwise killing babies is considered killing babies.
We can agree to disagree.
In fact, that’s why abortions were illegal for centuries, because it was considered killing of a baby.
The country is now awakening to how babies have been being murdered.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The odd thing is, when I went looking the first thing I found was an (ostensibly) medical definition that specified infant is post birth.
Frustratingly, I’ve seen a lot of definitions, probably predating the entire abortion controversy touched off by Roe v. Wade, that define “infant” (or “infancy”) in terms of child or childhood. I suspect that in fact “child” was back then usually in reference to someone who was born unless the context was specific, in which case you’d see “unborn child.” And thus, when those definitions were written, it was unconsciously assumed that “young child” or “early childhood” of course referred to post birth. And perhaps I’ve lived a sheltered life, but I’ve never seen “childhood” used to refer to pre-birth; it’s always someone talking about birth to maybe 10 years old (at which point “youth” takes over); the age range where the rugrat/yard ape’s primary occupation is exploring the world and giving his/her parents gray hairs (but wait until teenaged). So it seems we’re quite more than midway through a shift in the meaning of “child” where it can mean “unborn” even without specifying “unborn”, but “childhood” hasn’t been taken along for that ride yet.
One of my multitude of hobbies/subjects I read a lot on is linguistics and I’m quite familiar with semantic shift. At some point very soon the dictionary writers are going to have to be explicit instead of assuming the old definition of child. If, indeed, that’s their intent, which, of course, I can’t divine because they aren’t being explicit.
An interesting bit of trivia in regard to linguistic change. Our present word “silly,” centuries ago, meant “sacred.” Its meaning shifted through a series of overlapping definitions over the centuries to arrive at where it is, not even remotely resembling the original–unless you’re looking at someone ELSE’s religion, in which case what is sacred to them might seem silly to you. Holy cow!
As for being back…alas I’m going to have to disappoint you; please read what I said to Churchmose, above.
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/02/09/dear-maga-20190209-open-topic/comment-page-1/#comment-68270

Aubergine

Happy to see your comment, Steve.
Hope you continue to check in.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Bad news: I’m limiting comments solely to this sub-thread (and one from yesterday) as I ONLY came in to try to fix a years-old mistake that came back to haunt me (I can still be reached over on Gab).
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/02/09/dear-maga-20190209-open-topic/comment-page-1/#comment-68270

Covadonga

Steve,
Well I for one always enjoyed your comments here, and missed them when they stopped.
I don’t know or recall much about the specific controversies that led to you wanting to leave, but I certainly hope that at some point you reconsider and come back.
Reading your “Fare Well” post, which I only did last night, I was repeatedly struck by how similar our backgrounds and perspectives are.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Well, for a variety of reasons, I decided to return.

Covadonga

Yay!
Glad to hear it!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Well, you’ll see as you proceed through the posts. I rejoined by authoring a Q post on short notice.

singingsoul

SteveInCO
Good to see you.
We all make mistake even the best of us. I too was for choice I always chose life. I am also against the death penalty . All life is valuable and it is a core believe I held all my life as far back as I understood life and death.

Alison

In my giddiness, I forgot to thank Wheatie for ‘leaving the light on’. I think there are fireflies around your lovely tree – a favorite memory from childhood Michigan summers ⭐️✨🌟⭐️⭐️

michaelh

LIBERALISM AGAINST THE CHURCH
by Gladden J. Pappin
February 2019
https://www.firstthings.com/article/2019/02/liberalism-against-the-church
A review of:
The Lost History of Liberalism: From Ancient Rome to the Twenty-First Century
by Helena Rosenblatt
Princeton, 368 pages, $35

Liberalism, says Helena Rosenblatt, has grown ineffective as it has forgotten the role that public morality, virtue, and conceptions of the common good played in its development. In order to reconnect with these sources while illuminating the history of liberalism itself, she narrates what she calls a word history, an account of “how liberals defined themselves and what they meant when they spoke about liberalism.” What emerges is a picture of the liberalism “virtually obsessed with the need for moral reform” from its birth at the Revolution of 1789 throughout its development, primarily in France and later in Germany and the United States.
Rosenblatt gives us a history of liberalism from the standpoint of liberals themselves. It is a story of liberalism’s liberality and generosity, a story by liberals for liberals, told just at the time that liberalism’s weaknesses have been exposed by a new, robust nonliberalism. This story diverges from the one that mid-century liberals fashioned to account for their own success, when they patched together the old common law and the political philosophy of John Locke to set liberal institutions on an individualist foundation. Later attempts to craft a liberalism neutral on the content of the public good were, in Rosenblatt’s view, unfaithful to liberalism’s origins. Hers is no longer the story of a triumphant liberalism, but of an endangered liberalism in need of ressourcement.
This is only the self-congratulating half of the story. For the early French liberals, moral reform meant preserving the anti-ecclesiastical gains of the Revolution: écrasez l’infâme met with initial success, and those successes had to be preserved by separating morality from ecclesiastical instruction. “For liberals like Madame de Staël and Benjamin Constant,” Rosenblatt observes, “the Church simply could not be trusted to promote the moral regeneration of the republic.” This renewal was not a straightforward or uncontested goal of the liberals; instead, it was a kind of code for upending all remaining elements of ecclesiastical authority. Liberalism did not have to offer a comprehensive way of life. It simply had to define traditional ecclesiastical authority as the locus of moral degeneration in order to establish itself as the representative of “moral regeneration.”
Counterrevolutionary writers pointed out this sleight of hand. Louis de Bonald criticized the transformation of liberal from describing generosity to justifying attacks on the Church. Rosenblatt bristles at these criticisms, complaining that Pierre Manent’s intellectual history of liberalism, for example, “is the now two-hundred-year-old Catholic critique repackaged.” But while Rosenblatt interprets early French liberalism in the light of “liberality” to inspire a similar recasting of contemporary liberalism, liberalism’s anti-ecclesiastical stance lies at the heart of her story. “What France needed,” the liberals thought, “was not Catholicism but an enlightened religion that fostered the qualities of mind and character necessary for good citizenship.”

I wanted to share this – even though I found the prose tiresome, a key point should be observed about the liberalism of the French Revolution, represented today by the liberals and the political left:
Liberals (and the Left) believe that the church is the problem and root of all moral failures facing civilization, that an enlightened religion of liberal morality alone is the cure, and as such must be vigorously taught to the populace through government schools as an antidote to the corrupting teachings of the church.
There cannot be a rapprochement, even those some in the church foolishly seek it.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Agreed. Religious freedom is anathema to them and not possible, even if they promise it. Religious freedom must be suppressed, either openly and honestly or quietly and by subterfuge, but they CANNOT accept freedom of religion.

JasonD

Michael, thanks for that. I believe it is far worse than argued here, although your conclusion re rapprochement is obviously correct.
The denial of objective truth and their use of this position to justify their pursuit of power as the only “worthy” purpose bears out my contention that it is far worse than Rosenblatt contends.
The current “cray-cray” positions pursued by the Demons re late term abortion,Red new deals, the denial of sex differences between men and women whilst simultaneously arguing that it is is vital that children be allowed gender re-assignment surgery – all these things only make sense in light of their philosophy re the lack of objective truth.
There is no apparent common ground from which to attempt a rapprochement.

TatonkaWoman

God literally took me to the wilderness to meet His Son. It was while living in the Australian outback that I became a Christian. Living so remotely our main contact with the outside world was through the radio. As a new Christian one program I was sure not to miss was a daily half hour Christian commentary/lesson that, each week, featured a different church leader from around the country.
Imagine my shock when I listened one day to a church leader out of Sidney whose main theme for the week was “the real problem with Christianity is it’s focus on God.”. He went on to preach about how “God” was a divisive concept, and that kept people away from churches. His solution was a proposal of a ten year moratorium – a ban, if you will – on the use of the word God by all pastors and priests in all churches.
Michaelh, your highlighted paragraph brought this to mind. And, mind you, this was 40 years ago!!!
On the other hand, one of our older Christian mentors said this: the only thing wrong with Christianity is that it is made up of people. A word of wisdom I have found to be all too true!

singingsoul

TatonkaWoman
“Imagine my shock when I listened one day to a church leader out of Sidney whose main theme for the week was “the real problem with Christianity is it’s focus on God.”. He went on to preach about how “God” was a divisive concept, and that kept people away from churches. His solution was a proposal of a ten year moratorium – a ban, if you will – on the use of the word God by all pastors and priests in all churches.”
______________________________________________________
The Pastor was wrong, it is not the focus on God that is the problem of Christianity it is that the church keeps people immature spiritually. The spiritual awakening is uncontrollable.

para59r

“Liberals (and the Left) believe that the church is the problem and root of all moral failures facing civilization, that an enlightened religion of liberal morality alone is the cure, and as such must be vigorously taught to the populace through government schools as an antidote to the corrupting teachings of the church.”
Schools in general fail to teach math in too many places, how are they ever going to vigorously teach any form of morale philosophy? And more importantly by what authority will these morals come. The fact that you can approach a 100 people on the street and not get one to be able to articulate what this enlightened religion of liberal morality is, is enough to know it is a foolish course.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Marica alerted me to the fact that Quod Verum (the “Thomas Wictor site”) now has a social media component that is a lot like Twitter.
I am @WOLFM00N on the site, and Marica is @Marica_17
https://social.quodverum.com/web/getting-startedcomment image

redlegleader68

Ok, W – just went and signed up; same name as here:  RedLegLeader68
Followed you and @Marica_17. Kinda qool. Looks like the design of TweetDeck.

Marica

red–It seems a bit easier than gab…😊

redlegleader68

Yea. The one thing about Twitter is ease of use meaning likes and retweets, etc. as noted here in the QTree. When Gab and this new one implement that then … it’s Katy bar the door.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Good – got you followed!

Pat Frederick

thanks Wheatie!! these are soooo cute!!
And I love the tree–you pick the BEST trees!

Gil

I love the dixie and the mama lab. Awww.

judyw

Honoring this week when we were reminded of who we are!

rayzorbak

That was Awesome!
Thanx for sharing it.

judyw

SerialBrain2 – Trump’s SOTU Address: an amazing speech, a necklace and a secret in plain sight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKW0MpPX6Wc
If you prefer reading:
https://www.reddit.com/user/SerialBrain2/comments/ao58se/trumps_sotu_address_an_amazing_speech_a_necklace/

Elizabeth Carter

She was also wearing Caesar’s Scepter which is described here as a symbol of the 4th Reich
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klmgzzx7byM&t=5s

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

All through that Address, the necklace was bugging me. It not being straight, and then something was weird about it. It was obviously a sign or signal, I just didn’t know what.

GA/FL

The red part of that necklace looks like Islamic writing…and it’s very close to the word allah.

Pat Frederick

whoa…she better be careful or she will feel their wrath like Nike did…lol

judyw

Wow! Reminds me of the inscription, “There is no god except Allah.” on Obama’s band that he wore on his wedding ring finger even before he met Michelle.
https://www.wnd.com/2012/10/obamas-ring-there-is-no-god-but-allah/

GA/FL

Would be interesting to see who/what groups fund Pelosi’s political career….AND own her!

judyw
drillerelite

This is a fascinating read. I’m like the 1st commenter under the SerialBrain post, not smart enough to make an intelligent comment but am starting to understand a little, this one anyway. When it comes to coded messages, secret meanings, this means that-that means this… my eyes can start glazing over.
Hard to believe Nan-Chuck would cooperate with the President, …Xi too? Is that what I’m reading? And I’m gonna fall on the floor if Muller is going after black hats. Come to think of it, it’s still going over my head and I’m not smart enough to comment, I should delete this 😄
I go-to Q experts are Praying Medic, Lisa Mei and a couple others on the Twitter, I’m gonna follow follow SB2 on Reddit, pretty interesting stuff, thanks judyw 👍

judyw

drillerelite, I just find SB2 posts incredibly interesting both audio and visual and I’m with you on the details causing “eye glazing”. I’m more in the “show me the baby without describing the labor pains” camp and like all information, I take what I like and leave the rest. It does make sense to me that POTUS and others communicate in different ways to different audiences so this makes for more possibilities.
I don’t see these as predictions particularly but more like decoding which is a field of its own. I had never heard of Gemetria before his posts and honestly have no desire to become proficient at it but it falls into the category of cryptology which is very old and has got a renewal of interest. Until the end of the 80’s, it was reserved to military people or diplomats, but it is now accessible to the general public. Cryptology contains the art of hiding information and the techniques to break a secret. Here is a bit of the history of this art:
http://algo.inria.fr/seminars/sem96-97/morain.html

drillerelite

Being one who finds life complicated enough, I usually try to keep things simple but reading your link about cryptology fascinated me a little. It makes total sense that it would be used widely today. In the information age it must make it harder to communicate secretly.
Well obviously, look how much gets exposed and how quickly these days. It should be just a matter of time before the media is finally exposed also.
Also makes me wonder if much of the different alphabets and characters of the different languages didn’t evolve and grow due the use of cryptology, hmmm 🤨 interesting judy, thanks

judyw

Your “language evolving” thought is interesting. While I was waiting in line at Sam’s Pharmacy yesterday I noticed a sign with I think it was 16 blocks of texts and the caption was “Point to the language you speak”!
Here’s a video I just remembered that you may also find interesting:

drillerelite

I’ve never heard of gematria either, it’s interesting but I can tell there’s a lot to learn about there, whew. I thought I said I like to keep it simple judy! Puppies at the end, just because 😆

judyw

I agree…

NebraskaFilly

Ha! I KNEW someone would make an issue of PDJT’s crooked tie! SMH
“Of course, the Fake News and its horde of human bots, bots, possessed influencers and other social media hybrid creatures focused on something else. Something low. Something meaningless. This time, it was about the Maestro’s tie. Img1”comment image

michaelh

I must be doing a GREAT JOB of avoiding the FAKE NEWS!!!

Pat Frederick

ABSOLUTELY!!!
JUSTICE FOR ALL!

itswoot

I got to thinking of how the three hands on the watch that Q recently posted line up together at the “12” mark. They are the hands for the minute counter, hour counter and second hand. I believe the significance of it is that they may the meaning of pointing to “high noon”. The numbers themselves where the hands point to of 60,60,12 don’t seem important. I checked the building address for Judicial Watch and couldn’t find anything corresponding to the numbers, which add up to 132 (60 + 60 + 12).comment image
The watch (Portuguese Chronograph)
http://www.ablogtowatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/IWC-Portuguese-Chronograph-Classic-7.jpg
From Merriam-Webster:
Definition of high noon
1 : precisely noon
2 : the most advanced, flourishing, or creative stage or period
//the high noon of her career
3 : the time of a decisive confrontation or contest
Also, a movie Western from 1952 titled, “High Noon” may be a possibility. From IMDb:
“Storyline
On the day he gets married and hangs up his badge, Marshal Will Kane is told that a man he sent to prison years before, Frank Miller, is returning on the noon train to exact his revenge. Having initially decided to leave with his new spouse, Will decides he must go back and face Miller. However, when he seeks the help of the townspeople he has protected for so long, they turn their backs on him. It seems Kane may have to face Miller alone, as well as the rest of Miller’s gang, who are waiting for him at the station.”

itswoot

correction:
“… significance of it is that they may the meaning…”
“… significance of it is that they may have the meaning..”

Pat Frederick

not a western fan at all, but now I gotta know…does he make it out??? does he get the bad guy??
is there a reason why the straight up at 12 doesn’t depict midnight? the end of the current day and right before the beginning of a new day?

itswoot

The sheriff (Gary Cooper) had to face off against four bad guys alone after asking for help from the town folk, but getting none. He gets three of them, and his new bride steps in at the last minute and shoots the fourth one.
More info and movie reviews of “High Noon”: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0044706/reviews?ref_=tt_urv
It’s possible on the midnight meaning. I still favor the high noon aspect as being more likely.
Also, one thing that remains a mystery is who the watch belongs/belonged to. A watch owned by John F. Kennedy has been in the news in the last year that is reported to tie in with his assassination. Might the Q photo be related to that?

judyw

itswoot, the JFK watch has quite a story and that was my first thought but is not the same image and your movie story line is a strong possibility as it seems movies are used in so much Q info.
Here’s some JFK watch info with a photo:
https://twitter.com/RlxdN10sity/status/1091396470220181504
https://www.theloopnewspaper.com/story/2018/11/10/community/local-author-reveals-new-information-in-kennedy-assassinations/4885.html

Pat Frederick

ahhh right new bride! women should always be armed!

drillerelite

I highly recommend High Noon to any who haven’t seen it before. drillerwife and I finally watched it a few weeks ago, it’s a great story of conviction and courage.
He had so many reasons excuses and temptations to just leave but none of strong enough to counter his conviction to face his past. It’s not really a western at all and don’t read itswoot’s spoiler until you’ve seen it 😉

itswoot

Oops! My bad!

Pat Frederick

LOVE these ladies!!!
.@AdamSchiff, we don’t give a DAMN about @realDonaldTrump $$ before he became the President. We are concerned about how you & the deep state crew are wasting Tax Payers $$. Maybe it’s time to investigate members of congress to see how they got rich off of $174,000 a year salary.
— Diamond and Silk® (@DiamondandSilk) February 7, 2019

Pat Frederick

number climbing steadily…
Sexual assault allegations against Virginia Attorney General Justin Fairfax will drop soon from a THIRD woman.
— Corey Stewart (@CoreyStewartVA) February 9, 2019
If the Virginia General Assembly takes sexual assault seriously, they need to hold hearings to investigate the serious sexual assault charges against Lt. Gov. Justin Fairfax. @seanhannity @realDonaldTrump @IngrahamAngle
— Corey Stewart (@CoreyStewartVA) February 9, 2019

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

That’s the thing about men who sexually assault, there’s never just one. It’s a power thing.

judyw

So true DP. It is power issue in more ways than one. Besides power over an individual, it is also a way for a perpetrator to ease some pain of stress that need a release from if that makes any sense. Likely the most valuable advice I ever received from a former attorney who died years ago was when I was a single mom with a teenage daughter to support. I was working as an Ex Asst to the State Commissioner of Edu so was close to everything he did personally and professionally and when he began crossing boundaries that led to an incident that was meant to exert influence on employment “conditions” I scheduled an appointment with my attorney. Earning an income was not an option and I was in a state of shock so needed a way to address sexual advances that before that time, I thought only happened if women invited them (seems there are ways God speaks clearly to modify opinions).
My attorney was a retired Air Force General and like a father to me as he began representing me in a divorce proceeding and I continued to rely on his advice personally and professionally. He gave me exact words as well as how to set up a private meeting with the Commissioner for the specific purpose of addressing the incident. I followed his advice and it took less than 10 minutes to reset boundaries and my request to be transferred to another position within the Department but across town in another location was honored. I have often thought what a short book he could have written that would have stopped a lot of harassment and assaults. When I am in a state of shock, I don’t need generalities, I need specifics to move forward…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Here comes the pain. Enjoy the show. You are watching a movie.
Don’t forget those quotes.
This morning at VOAT there was an interesting quick exchange that is worth the time and filing for future reference. https://voat.co/v/QRV/3025264
After seeing the Whittaker thing today and the left’s assessment of it all … I have officially lost all desire for decorum and respect.
submitted 13 hours ago by 3025264?
So I know this isn’t right, or moral, or Christian and I fancy myself a Good Protestant with a good sense of right and wrong.
Today was the day I stopped hoping for arrests. I stopped hoping there would be some resolution in the future. I never 100% thought the outcome would be pretty, but I held out hope for something peaceful. I no longer want that.
Democrats (and many Republicans) in the deep state are acting on marching orders to publicly humiliate any players. Without reason. Without regard for truth or dignity. Without even holding the respect of their colleagues’ positions/titles; when those titles are equal to or greater than their own. Their voter base (fam club, more like it) is so far gone they refuse to even know the truth. They don’t want to know, they want their praise, and their gold star stickers, for falling in line. They all lack morals and should be treated as such.
I don’t want a political victory anymore. I want them to be humiliated, depraved, deprived, dehumanized, stripped of their dignity, stripped of their sense of worth. They’ve infected at least half of our population with their backwards ideals, for decades. They lash out anything and anyone they haven’t infected. They need to be stripped of their humanity, in front of all the people they’ve polluted so the world knows we will reject any attempts to undermine our liberty with harsh and cruel punishment.
Another user comes back with this which is where the important stuff is:
16665998? 41 points (+41|-0) 11.5 hours ago
Maybe it’s because I’m a child of the 80s and a little too old to need instant gratification. Maybe it’s a life spent in the military that allows me to see the plan as an operation. Or maybe it’s because I look at the bigger picture…but I’ve seen a ton of forward movement in the last couple of weeks, and that with MSM running interference.
We saw the first two sealed Federal indictments out of 62k get unsealed publicly on tv. I’ve read about more, most related to human trafficking.
The left has become completely unhinged since January 1st. Autists on 8ch have been tracking lots of traffic to and from GITMO.
And now we’ve got active strike teams operating in LA and Hawaii. I don’t buy the training bullshit…the potential damage to civilians and private property is a career ender. No General would approve that training plan.
And today, Whittaker spilled the beans a little about who is taking a look at the HRC investigation…not that any of the morons questioning him caught it.
Nope. Plan A is making forward progress, even if you can’t see it. Plan B is always an option, that’s why there’s a plan A. Always remember: never, at any point in the history of this Nation, have we had as many combat veterans in our population. 20 years of active operations will do that. We all swore an oath nobody released us from. Most of us are just waiting for the call, hoping it happens while we can still shoot straight. The Pentagon knows this. So does the swamp. That’s why they want us disarmed.
DP: more combat veterans in the population than ever in history is very dangerous to the swamp.
Did anyone catch who is looking at HRC amid the fireworks?
The strike teams in LA were most likely NOT the good guys.
More traffic in and out of GITMO.
That’s information that adds up to “IT’S HAPPENING!” We just aren’t seeing it. We are trained to see things not as they are actually occurring, but how THEY want us to see it.
Gotta run for now, but wanted to get this out there.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Here’s another answer that echoes my thoughts:
16667316? 5 points (+5|-0) 10.3 hours ago
I do agree. Although at the moment everything looks a bit calm and we are still waiting for the “arrests”.. I think that there is a lot happening behind the scenes. It’s like the puppets did not yet get cut from the strings, but the strings seem to be in disorder… the media is confused as the 4:00 a.m. – briefing does not work anymore…, politicians seem to be in panic and show their incompetence openly as their handlers got lost.. Seems like the cabal’s “conductor” is gone.. or confused… Normies do not (yet) notice much. But Anons can feel it…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

And another to the original poster:
16665514? 12 points (+12|-0) 11.9 hours ago
Cheer up. Whittaker was there to troll the looneys. One such incident was to tell one such jerk, your 5 minutes is up. Unlax, see we all want arrests bro, but the reality is the cabal must be deconstructed. Look at the last month. We have seen the dems cast off their masks, full term abortion and even after birth, blackface, sexual perversion and arrests of high level associates. We are even seeing RINOS reveal themselves. Rubio is now shown to be running interference for the left. We know about Romney, and even others are being outted as snakes. Look at California, some areas could have elections thrown out, and in Texas! We have seen chief justice Roberts just yesterday remove all doubt that he is in the cabal and anti Christian. There is absolutely no way he could cast his vote as he did and claim to be a good man. No way. Its being revealed. It has to be this way.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I keep finding great answers to the original post:
[–] 16669384? 5 points (+5|-0) 9.7 hours ago
As former USMC, We have to understand the size and scope of this operation. As in any timeless chess match, even when the position is won, and the outcome is secured… you still have to play each move, turn by turn, to officially reach the checkmate. That could take another 10, 20, 50 moves. There’s no cutting corners. There are no shortcuts. The second half, can last as long as the first half. It’s been merely two years since Trump has been in office, Less than one and a half since the first Q post, and the beginning of the public dissemination began. The next two years will be the systematic falling of the dominoes, one by one. Until the final piece falls. Most people in this country are not even aware that this is going on. And it’s not their fault. The media has said NOTHING, except to discredit the information. And there it stands. Things are going to get so blatantly and madeningly obvious to us, As the plan continues to unfold, Until everyone and their brother are going to wonder just what the heck is going on, And that’s where the line, “Those that have followed Q since the beginning, will be there to help you understand…” This is global. These are POWERFUL people. With VAST resources, and a tentative stranglehold on the media. When there are Blackhawks landing on the streets of LA, And operators storming buildings with flashbangs and boom sticks, And the media says, “Routine training excercise”, And the Sheeple move on with their grazing, That should indicate where we’re at. This is not a game. Nothing can stop what is coming. But it won’t be tomorrow. Things are going to get crazy. In a good way, and hopefully peacefully in the national sense. Not everyone are warriors, nor should they be. Most people have enough going on in those hectic lives with family, friends, work, and bills, and life in general. Most are not on fire for politics, Or a fringe belief on 8chan. But, anons know. The storm is upon us.
trust the plan Peace be upon you and yours. Nothing can stop what is coming.

rayzorbak

As an Avid Chess Player myself…..
The object is to KILL the King…..
The other pieces are obstacles……
Get the “King” and ALL other pieces are yours.
I once beat an opponent without ONE piece being taken by either side…
I Know right?…. I didn’t even think it was possible…..
anyway… If the game works out right…..
All the collateral can be avoided.
Sometimes you have to “sacrifice” one or more of your own to achieve the goal.
We need to IDENTIFY the “King”..
Then Take HIM/Her out.
The rest will fall

singingsoul

Blackhawks in LA cannot be a rough operation and I believe the military would not allow that.
Who else has Blackhawks..?
Would military operate on their own by some renegade General?
Maybe some who have been in military would know this..?
I think the training has its purpose and is for a reason.
Are they training for Venezuela ..? I agree it is dangerous to operate like this in a city but it shows how good our guys are.
Why in a liberal state liberal city..? Just wondering.

rayzorbak

“The strike teams in LA were most likely NOT the good guys.”
Then who were they?
With OUR equipment?
Looks like Our guys to me.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

That is the problem with this platform. That you can’t go back and amend posts. When I posted that, I had not even had a full cup of tea.
I’ve gone back and forth on that point given that the cabal has its own equipment, reportedly.

rayzorbak

ok…..
Cabal runs Al-Qaida and ISIS operations (I think)
WE… run domestic Mil
There is No way Our Mil would allow ANYONE to do that crap in LA if it was not US
JMHO

realsauce

..unless they were black project C_A assets

rayzorbak

Still would be tough to pull that off without “US” seeing it build.
Then again, “They” removed all fighter jets and pulled 9-11-01

Emeraldstar

“WE… run domestic Mil”
Not completely, IMO.
Remember the photos / videos from the CA “wild” fires – where houses were obliterated, and surrounding trees / flora were unscathed?
In this instance at least – reasonably recently, too – I believe that WE *weren’t* in full control of our domestic military.
The blackmail runs deep … even domestically (especially so!).

NebraskaFilly

I think another factor that also applies is that many currently in our military services came up through the public school system. They don’t even really know what they are doing, in a lot of cases.

singingsoul

rayzorbak
“ok…..
Cabal runs Al-Qaida and ISIS operations (I think)
WE… run domestic Mil
There is No way Our Mil would allow ANYONE to do that crap in LA if it was not US
JMHO”
_________________________________________
Bingo

michaelh

“Humiliation” is a lot more important than people realize. It is actually a strategic method of ensuring that an enemy does not regroup and restore strength.
The Left needs to be humiliated in such a way that any attempt to regroup or recruit for their cause is treated by even the most minimum information person as absurd and laughable.

GA/FL

Hope they do. P is part of the leftist agenda to dehumanize and degrade our national and global culture.
Child P is a product of slavery and a form of abuse/assault.

GA/FL

P is also an addiction.

Pat Frederick

agreed…it seems rampant everywhere…child exploitation in many forms

michaelh

The easy availability of this flood of toxic waste is really quite shocking in how exponentially it has increased in only a few years – to levels today that would’ve been unimaginable only twenty years ago. Yes it’s always been there, but the volume and ease has not. If you wanted to do one thing to divide men and women, rend apart marriages, destroy the family, and attack Christianity it is difficult for me to imagine the left coming up with any more powerful technique than the extreme poison they’ve injected into the cultural mainstream.
I hope this initiative gets somewhere.

churchmouse

Glenn Greenwald article on Jeff Bezos, the hypocrite, who is working on social score surveillance. For thee, but not for me:

https://theintercept.com/2019/02/08/jeff-bezos-protests-the-invasion-of-his-privacy-as-amazon-builds-a-sprawling-surveillance-state-for-everyone-else/
‘… If Bezos were the political victim of surveillance state abuses, it would be scandalous and dangerous. It would also be deeply ironic.
‘That’s because Amazon, the company that has made Bezos the planet’s richest human being, is a critical partner for the U.S. Government in building an ever-more invasive, militarized and sprawling surveillance state. Indeed, one of the largest components of Amazon’s business, and thus one of the most important sources of Bezos’ vast wealth and power, is working with the Pentagon and the NSA to empower the U.S. Government with more potent and more sophisticated weapons, including surveillance weapons.
‘In December, 2017, Amazon boasted that it had perfected new face-recognition software for crowds, which it called Rekognition. It explained that the product is intended, in large part, for use by governments and police forces around the world. The ACLU quickly warned that the product is “dangerous” and that Amazon “is actively helping governments deploy it.”
‘“Powered by artificial intelligence,” wrote the ACLU, “Rekognition can identify, track, and analyze people in real time and recognize up to 100 people in a single image. It can quickly scan information it collects against databases featuring tens of millions of faces.” The group warned: “Amazon’s Rekognition raises profound civil liberties and civil rights concerns.” In a separate advisory, the ACLU said of this face-recognition software that Amazon’s “marketing materials read like a user manual for the type of authoritarian surveillance you can currently see in China.” …’

drillerelite

This sh!t here scares the hell out of me, surveillance state.

churchmouse

IKR?!?

Pat Frederick

love our LION!

churchmouse

Me, too!

drillerelite

Amen!

GA/FL
GA/FL

So – the President did more than just get his annual physical at Walter Reed!!!

Cuppa Covfefe

I have to say, looking at President Trump’s expression on the “snapshot” of the tweet, that he must have had a great relationship with his father, and has a great relationship to his (and our) Heavenly Father.
The fatherly look of concern and care in his eyes cannot be faked; no matter what the libs and YSM say.
Indeed, here is a man who GOD shaped, trained, and called to be our President, and is using to reform our country, if not the governments of the world (but NOT in a globalist way). Not perfect, rough edges here and there, but with a multitude of talents, and experience, both successful and a few failures, that has prepared him for this task for (and over) decades. GOD uses imperfect people to do HIS PERFECT WILL…
And, speaking of talents, I think President Trump is well aware of the Parable of the Talents, and realizes both the responsibility and the blessing that goes with the tasks, the talents, and the tools that GOD has set before him.
May GOD richly Bless, Strengthen, Protect, and Guide President Trump, Vice-President Pence, their families, and the Administration and their families. And may HE confound the efforts and wiles of the deep state, the DEMONcRATs and RINOs, the Globalists, and all of those opposing HIS PERFECT WILL.
In Jesus’ Holy Name, Amen.

GA/FL

MONDAY MAGA RALLY – Make Monday Great Again!

Elizabeth Carter

A remark about AOC trains on 8 chan
Anonymous 02/07/19 (Thu) 20:23:40 d7d137 No.5072468 >>5072013
I think whoever is feeding her the script about Training the Planes. That plan actually makes sense if you think about the cabals underground tunnels all over the world we have been Hearing about.
Underground tunnels everywhere all over the world with hyperloop grav trains in em.
Only we havn’t been able to use them. only the elite can.
Now that White hats are defeating the cabal, and they know that these tunnels are going to be exposed. They are trying to give the democrats and socialist credit for building it, ahead of disclosure.
It’s all already built and ready to use. Trains Underground. no need to fly.
They are going to act like it was their idea.
But really it is White hats liberating the tunnels for humanity to use.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

At first I was jarred at the idea that AOC was a plant, and one for the white hats at that, but it’s starting to gel. There’s too many things that just are outlandish. The Dems are really good at mentoring, and she shows no signs of that.
And then there was an off hand comment from Nancy Pelosi about the Green New Deal, about them believing in it.
Yeah, nothing is as it seems.

realsauce

heh…I had that thought earlier in the week, she’s acting like a socialist version of the “Colbert Report” but as a congressmen…..or maybe the lib version of that “VP” show on HBO…
I’ve seen clips of the Colbert show just because the lib media loved it, never watched a VP episode, only commercials for it watching other HBO stuff

GA/FL

It is great to see a black Christian man take on abortion slaughter of unborn infants from an organization that was formed by a racist to target black Americans.
Disturbing to what happens when the Christian invokes the name of Jesus to an abortion doctor:
https://twitter.com/DavidJHarrisJr/status/1094105119098982401

Gil

Thats an actual md? Acting like that…I bet he has had lots of discipline thats not state records, which is why this is all he does.

realsauce

..or perhaps a certain mentality is drawn to that line of work once you get a medical degree….
Certainly not saying all abortion doctors aren’t right in the head but…
……sociopaths gonna sociopath, why not do it legally if that’s your nature

drillerelite

I believe we’re going to be seeing more manifestations like this as the cabal loses its grip on power

GA/FL

Maybe even in the halls of government.

drillerelite

Yes as GA/FL, and I believe we did during the Kavanaugh hearings

para59r

This guy needs a visit by a team of exorcists. Concerned citizens would do nicely too.

GA/FL

Anna Paulina takes on hyphenated socialist Cortez!
https://twitter.com/realannapaulina/status/1093995556991430656

para59r

She’s good and dead on right. Bring home our industry so we can monitor them rather than let China and other east Asian countries who have extremely lax environmental controls monitor them. (short vid, give it a watch).

michaelh

I think this is the hidden reason Peter Navarro is the advocate of nationalist trade he is. Among other thing he wants trade deals that enforce environmental standards with trading partners so the U.S. isn’t just exporting its pollution to other nations.

GA/FL

Interesting…….

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This is the kind of news that the MSM really needs to dig into but won’t be caught dead doing so.

NebraskaFilly

And we are surprised that Netflix isn’t paying taxes? Neither does GE! NONE of them do, thanks to the purposeful complexity in our tax code.

CHI->AZ : Improvise, Adapt and Overcome

CHI->AZ : Improvise, Adapt and Overcome

CHI->AZ : Improvise, Adapt and Overcome

GA/FL

Was just coming to post this! SO THANKFUL our President is telling it like it is!!!!
58,102,690 @realDonaldTrump followers – 9:48 am

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

It has been noted by commenters on various boars that Obama has been MIA on Jack’s Twinkie platform.

Cuppa Covfefe

Must be that lousy internet coverage at Gitmo…
As in, “I can’t Git-no network access”…
Or perhaps “The Øne” has reunited with his multi-Billion$ stash in parts unknown…

judyw

Yesss! Here’s how that thinking looked that was replaced in the 2016 Election..comment image

TheseTruths

That is such a telling photo. The resident of the WH changes every four or eight years, so they knew it was coming. Clearly, this is about giving it up to “one of them” (us). They wanted their agenda to continue. They are upset about the scuttling of the 16-year plan to destroy America and remake her in their image. We had to get them out of there.

phoenixRising

unfortunately, many of them are still there…..

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Disgruntled COMMUNISTS.

judyw

🤣🤣🤣

CHI->AZ : Improvise, Adapt and Overcome

Yes Steve, if you pay for your girlfriend’s abortion that makes you an accessory to murdercomment image

Marica

fascinating!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Great thread!

michaelh

Easy to overlook -> “AND CLERGY”comment image

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

AMEN. And the worst part is that the KGB/Soviet infiltration and the KGB-CIA infiltration were working in the SAME OVERALL DIRECTION as far as undermining the clergy.

Cuppa Covfefe

Emerson Fosdick and the Rockefellers…
I think the fact that Dick Tracy’s arch enemy was named “Fosdick” was no accident…

drillerelite

I noticed that too

drillerelite

To kill a mockingbird, perfect!

michaelh

Attention TEXANS!
From Texas Values Action
https://txvaluesaction.org/
New #BanTheBible Bills Filed at Texas Capitol Target Marriage & Family
Despite overwhelming support to stop #BanTheBible bills, including nearly 38,000 messages and phone calls by our activists, some Democrats at the Texas Capitol are not getting the message. Since we launched our NoBibleBan.com campaign, even more #BanTheBible bills have been introduced by Democrats in the Texas House.
* New #BanTheBible bills include HB 978 which attacks the biblical view of family by eliminating references to “mother and father” and “husband and wife” from the family code, and HB 1190 which would use government power to attack Christian counselors and marriage and family therapists. Learn more.
* Many of the #BanTheBible bills before the Texas Legislature are authored by members of the new “LGBT Caucus,” which is pushing a self-proclaimed “transformative” agenda on Texas. This agenda doesn’t seem to include any of the bi-partisan issues Gov. Abbott, Lt. Gov. Patrick, and Speaker Bonnen are ready to work on. Instead, these Democrats are bringing divisive legislation to criminalize Christians and people of faith.
* Have your heard a response back from your State Representative or Senator opposing #BanTheBible bills? We know there is wide Republican opposition to these bills but are thankful for legislators, like Rep. Mayes Middleton (R-Wallisville), that are strongly speaking out against them. Send us an email or message us on Facebook if you have heard from your legislators so that we can thank them!
* If you have not already, visit NoBibleBan.com to get talking points and send an email message directly to your state elected officials through our action center.

michaelh

TEXANS RESPOND TO LIBERAL #BANTHEBIBLE BILL EFFORTS
by James Wesolek February 7, 2019
https://txvaluesaction.org/texans-respond-to-liberal-banthebible-bill-efforts/comment image
Austin, Texas – After Texas Values Action sounded the alarm on Democrat bills filed before the Texas Legislature that would effectively #BanTheBible, conservatives from across Texas and around the country have responded in force. Through our action center at NoBibleBan.com Texans have sent over 37,000 messages and phone calls to the Governor, Lt. Governor, State Senators, and State House members. These efforts have garnered attention from national news agencies and high profile bloggers. Conservative commentator Erick Erickson discussed the issue, The Federalist and Empower Texans published blog pieces about it, PJ Media, LifeSite News, CBN, One News Now, The Stream and many others also wrote about these highly controversial bills.
Despite this overwhelming support to stop #BanTheBible Bills, some are not getting the message. More #BanTheBible bills; such as HB 978 and HB 1190 were introduced shortly after Texas Values Action called attention to the first round of #BanTheBible bills. And just this week Carrolton, Texas passed a #BanTheBible ordinance.
Hiding under the disguise of “sexual orientation and gender identity” these bills would create new government power and protections which ban the free expression of Biblical beliefs, especially it’s teaching on marriage and sexuality. Numerous bills seek to ban religious beliefs and force people of faith to conform to the personal and political activities of others. Those who do not comply will face fines, possible jail time, or other criminal charges.
Jonathan Saenz, President of Texas Values, said “These ‘Ban the Bible’ bills at the Texas Legislature are an aggressive effort to create excessive government control over peoples’ lives. Creating more government control and threatening Christians with jail time or fines is putting personal politics over constitutional liberty.”
Ann Hettinger, State Director for CWALAC of Texas, said “Any inclusion of men in women’s private spaces is a gross violation of their privacy and safety. It is the job of every legislator to protect Texas women and we strongly oppose these ‘Ban the Bible’ bills.”
Many of the #BanTheBible bills before the Texas Legislature are authored by members of the new LGBT Caucus, which has claimed to unveil a “transformative” agenda. This agenda doesn’t seem to include any of the bi-partisan issues Gov. Abbott and State Leaders are ready to work on, like school finance or property tax reform. Instead, they bring divisive legislation to criminalize Christians and people of faith.
See More:
https://txvaluesaction.org/texans-respond-to-liberal-banthebible-bill-efforts/

Gil

A French photographer got his hand blown off today by the police. I just wonder are they French citizens doing this to their own countrymen? This would not stand by our police.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-09/graphic-photographers-hand-blown-police-grenade-during-yellow-vest-mayhem

phoenixRising

Read Katie’s TL today for what’s going on in France… Macron is a monster
Remember to remove the * when you click on url
*https://twitter.com/KTHopkins?lang=en
https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/1094222674799280128

Cuppa Covfefe

Remember that Macaroon (maroon) was a Rothschild banker.
He sold his soul to the Devil before then, in order to get that job.
Look up Ronald Bernard, the Dutch Financier, to see what happens at the very top levels of the finance and globalist world. Including CHILD SACRIFICES!!!

Cuppa Covfefe

Here’s an exceprt from a comment I made last year. Still scary what these folks do. And pray for Ronald Bernard, and the potential victims!
Look at the video of Dutch Financier Ronald Bernard, and how he finally could take no more when he was invited to a meeting where there would be a child sacrifice!
When all this starts getting prosecuted (and needs air-tight cases), no (or few) other investigations or prosecutions will be needed, as most of D.C., royalty, many government and top power figures, as well as probably all of Hollywood will be taken down. “Randy Andy” of the British Royal family is known for his escapades: how many more are there?
Here is a description of the “power” behind the “power” of the elites. It also explains the DEMONcRATS support of abortion and other murder. The Cult of Moloch/Baal still exists, and is practiced at the highest levels of government (e.g. the Klintoons) and business (cf the video contained in this link).
http://investmentwatchblog.com/dutch-banker-ronald-bernard-blows-the-whistle-on-worlds-satanic-elite/
[I can’t get away from the fact that this fellow looks like Tim Allen. He seems to have gone through hell and back. GOD forgive and help us all. Ephesians 6:10-18 explains quite clearly what we’re up against.]
The whole video (very informative and well worth watching) is at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEpcY5JU120 .
It’s in Dutch, but the English subtitles are excellent, and accurate. The part which clearly describes what the elite are up to, and what power they worship, it here:
https://youtu.be/nEpcY5JU120?t=1289

drillerelite

That video is gruesome, not for the weak of stomach. On the other hand it’s probably not a good idea to pick up any kind of explosive and try to throw it back. Ouch

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Sorry – the BEST is at the BOTTOM:comment image

phoenixRising
para59r

Some one posted about the operators are operating operationally using thread reader in this or yesterday’s thread. If those reports are true then the military is operating under executive order. No other way that can be done. Very interesting.

Cuppa Covfefe

I love this comment:
” 3%er‏ @three_P_infidel 8h8 hours ago
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Replying to @MilspecP
This is what a search warrent from Trump looks like. Definitely not some silly fbi parade that cant even breach a door.”
Despite what happened to Roger Stone, he’s fortunate that he only had a bunch of DEMONcRAT amateurs going after him…
I rather expect that things are going to warm up a bit in anticipation of the “caravan” heading our way.
And the “warming up” will be pointed at them…

Molly Pitcher

An expanded version of the Stone arrest. It almost seems like they hold off on identifying that they’re fbi until the last minute. Good thing he didn’t come to the door armed because he was scared…he would most likely have been “justifiably” shot.
When the agent covers the camera…creepy
https://truepundit.com/watch-new-stunning-private-footage-of-roger-stones-fbi-arrest-shows-cnn-working-with-feds-who-trashed-stones-house/

drillerelite

Omg, this is earth shattering if it can be verified. The FBI baiting someone to arm themselves before opening the door? Rock a lotta ppls world if something like this gets out

Molly Pitcher

It’s out there and so far other than us on these boards seem to be reacting with horror. Who will do anything?
I don’t even know exactly how it works. It was Mueller’s warrant, so does the authority go through doj and then doj has fbi execute it?
And what makes it all so secret state-ish…the cnn car pulls right up to film the grand spectacle. Training their sheeple viewers to clap wildly over citizens being treated like terrorists while being arrested for something that he would’ve simply turned himself over to them for.

phoenixRising

Pat Frederick

can he be the special counsel investigating the Dem plot??????

judyw

Priorities? LOLcomment image

drillerelite

😆

Pat Frederick

toooooooooo funny!

Molly Pitcher

Man who allegedly murdered his pregnant girlfriend won’t be charged with death of baby after Cuomo’s bill
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/02/09/man-who-allegedly-murdered-his-pregnant-girlfriend-wont-be-charged-with-death-of-baby-after-cuomos-bill-722451

phoenixRising

While everyone is focused on AOC and her antics, look who is bent on the destruction of America… tell me again how the hell she got elected ? A C-A plant ? or a Muslim Brotherhood plant ? Or, are they the same these days? Zero was both, right? We are hoeing a rough row with the C-A controlled MSM… if we don’t destroy it, we’ll never destroy the rogoue C_A………..
https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1094119937222668290

Molly Pitcher

ITA. I’ve said it a hundred times…she’s very bad news. The brazen way she dubs POTUS as ” Individual 1″ is revealing.

Pat Frederick

without Secret Service, she is also unprotected…does she consider that?

phoenixRising
phoenixRising

Comment section is informative… here’s one:
… “https://twitter.com/Fishy4u/status/1094248397735899137”
Same disruptive thing Brits did settling protestants in Northern Ireland (plantations in Ulster in 17th century). Cabal has been doing this for centuries…
[…”After the Tudor invasions and particularly after the forced settlements, or plantations, of the early 17th century, English and Scottish elements were further differentiated from the native Irish by their Protestant faith.”]
https://www.britannica.com/place/Northern-Ireland
Zero, under ValJar’s control, has distributed groups of refugee Muslims all over the USA, creating pockets of Congressional Districts heavily populated by Sharia Law-abiding Muslims.

phoenixRising

oops… broken link. Here’s comment:
“Inner city seat with a very tight and sizable Somali community. This community was engineered by Government social planners through the strategic settlement of refugees some years ago and served its purpose of changing a demographic. Sound familiar?
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singingsoul

The democrats failed to police themselves . Rep. Ilhan Omar should have never been on a ballot because she is incomparable with Constitution and the Republic that is America.
How could this happen..? Have we all fallen to the notion anyone can be a Rep..?
Just showing you what can happen if and when we do not police ourself. Merkel was a communist in the former DDR. East and West united but the old communist establishment was not controlled. Merkel rose in the political party the Christian Democratic Union (CDU). That used to be a middle of the road party of Konrad Adenauer the man who after WII was installed by the US and a kind honorable man.
Merkel should have never allowed in any German politics.
Sometimes do gooders who are so fair that they are only fair to one site at the expense of the other.
There are stories like this on smaller scales.
We need to be always guard and never just poo poo things because they seem so far fetched. My husband told me for years when I had concerns ” do not worry US always corrects itself.”
Here we are. Nothing is impossible and anything can happen because we just cannot believe it.
Hitler happened in Germany and many people dit not take it serious.

rayzorbak

Good comment….. and so TRUE!
Here in the USA….. NOBODY believed that OUR Government would do/allow something so DRASTIC as 9-11-01.
It was so INCREDIBLE and caused (along with the C_A Media) mass delusion.
There is ample EVIDENCE that the “Official” report(s) are NOT TRUE.
Everything is NOT as it seems.
People ARE waking up though.

GA/FL

Nasty little Islamist – anti-American hate cultist – reminds me of the San Bernardino shooter woman.
OMAR NEEDS TO BE EXILED AND STRIPPED OF HER CITIZENSHIP!!!

phoenixRising

click on Brian’s tweet for THREAD
https://twitter.com/LisaMei62/status/1094266729990156288

Pat Frederick

this may not be a popular comment to make and I really wish I were above making it, but I’m not…I will learn to live with myself…but…
didn’t SD specifically say at one point that Huber & Horowitz were doing NOTHING, NADA, ZILCH?????
I am expecting to visit OT soon and see sunshine shooting out his butt, and unicorns dancing in the threads…he must be thrilled he was …cough, cough, wrong.
k, I am done, please excuse the snarkiness…

Gil

Hes dug in. Never admit it until he cant control the queries given him.

phoenixRising

Don’t forget Sessions’ part in all of this…
Sd will NEVER admit he was wrong about Sessions…

Pat Frederick

absolutely!

Steve in Lewes

Well for the record, he was initially wrong about Mueller as well. He wrote an article the day after Mueller’s appointment and called it magnificent move or some other descriptor. At a point in time when I noticed things a changing OT, I commented on one of his latter articles about how Mueller was now the devil or something and I reminded him of that first article….oops that is when I got banned; I believe. SD doesn’t take challenges/criticism very well as you point out.

GA/FL

to. say. the. least!
:8-)

michaelh

No one really knows for certain what’s going on. This includes SD.
This includes anonymous sources and insider tips. They play like they know but they don’t. Besides, we should know by now not to trust anonymous deep state cowards who like dropping dimes to reporters.
This lack of knowledge is by design. Who’s design I leave to the reader to speculate.
The key point from AAG Whitaker’s testimony yesterday is that the Huber+Horowitz team is still in play.
But – what exactly is the play?
Option 1: Huber is busy working to prosecute based on the findings provided by Horowitz. Real investigations take time, at least eighteen months, and the degree of corruption is unusually large. The results must be thorough and accurate – there is no second chance. Sessions resignation is either immaterial to the ongoing investigation or Sessions will be called as a witness.
Option 2: The AAG and DOJ are still hiding behind the convenient fiction of the Huber “investigation”. Nothing is actually going on. Utah was chosen to give the appearance of non-partisanship but the location is far from any public eye which makes the lack of activity easier to disguise. Sessions will not be a witness and his resignation was for other reasons, or his resignation was a direct result of POTUS frustration that Sessions was doing nothing.
While I’ve always appreciated SD’s insights – in this area he has allowed himself to “know” more than he really knows. He does not “know” that Huber is doing “nothing” any more than anyone else “knows” that Huber is “busy”. Huber is a known unknown: We know what we don’t know. Knowing that we don’t know, we should be very cautious making assumptions.

michaelh

As an addition point for consideration:
If AAG stated that Huber is investigating the FISA abuse, and Huber is in fact, doing NOTHING, that means AAG is caught in perjury before Congress, and is part of the cover-up.
Is the AAG willing to expose himself to the risk or perjury (white hat)? Or does he accept the risk knowing his friends have his back (black hat)?
There are too many alternating explanations, all more and more contorted on all sides. Occam’s razor – we simply don’t know.

singingsoul

Maybe Huber is ding enough to give the appearance he is doing something compared to doing nothing..?
By the way I read someplace that it was Rosnstein who suggested Huber to Session.
From looking outside into Session’s DOJ it seemed that Rosenstein was running everything.
Now would Rosenstein be so stupid of being the sacrificial lamb..?
I guess we will know in time.
“The Ox moves slowly drawing water from the well.”

para59r

At work but wonder how Whittaker’s words will be taken OT? Or has SD already back tracked?

churchmouse

pR, I hope that Cates is correct.

Pat Frederick

9 Rules for Life
9. Death is the #1 killer in the world.
8. Life is sexually transmitted.
7. Good health is merely the slowest rate you can die.
6. Men have 2 emotions: hungry and horny and they can’t tell them apart. If you see a gleam in his eyes, make him
a sandwich.
5. Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him to use the internet and they won’t bother you for
weeks, months or maybe a year.
4. Health nuts are going to feel stupid one day lying in a hospital dying of nothing.
3. Take a lesson from the weather. It pays no attention to criticism.
2. In the 60’s people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world IS weird and they take Prozac to make it
normal.
1. Life is like a jar of jalapeno peppers–what you do today may burn your ass tomorrow.
Smile 🙂

phoenixRising

Love your humor Pat…
A very wise woman told me many decades ago that the number one prerequisite for this journey we call life is humor.
And it keeps the endorphins flowing !

Pat Frederick

i think any man that can make me laugh is sexy!

Marica

Pat– You forgot 11. Eating Thin Mints doesn’t Make you Thin. (Pat ism)🤣🤣😎

Pat Frederick

LOL…so sad about that!

Gil

Thats really good. One for kids would be good too..hint hint…

Ken

Great list, Pat. Thanks. Two of your items equate to a saying I once heard: Life is a sexually transmitted fatal disease. And we all have it.

michaelh

“If you see a gleam in his eyes, make him a sandwich.”
True story!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Wasn’t ready for that Pat but, thanks for the good laugh 🙂

judyw

Oh, Pat. I honestly don’t remember the last time I laughed so hard I cried! Remember Norman Cousins healed himself through laughter so I’m good for a while now! LOL

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Khashoggi Journalist Myth versus Qatari Spy REALITY. Hosted by the anti-Trump KGB-CIA at Pecker-Boy’s Blog.

Security Studies Group
Khashoggi: Qatari Asset in Life; Qatari Asset in Death
David Reaboi
1 year agoDecember 23, 2018
When Donald Trump announced that his first trip abroad as president would take him to Saudi Arabia and to Israel, it was a signal that the new administration had returned America’s traditional alliances in the Middle East to their privileged status. For the prior eight years, the Obama White House had, in contrast, prioritized relations with these countries’ regional adversary in Iran and embraced the Islamic Republic’s regional allies, Turkey and Qatar, as key interlocutors and partners. The Obama administration also supported Islamist movements in the Middle East, principally the Muslim Brotherhood, that threated to topple regimes and instigate more hostility toward the Jewish State. Even before taking office, it was clear that the Trump administration would reverse these policies.
Obviously, some were alarmed both at the American turn back to Jerusalem and Riyadh as well as the Trump administration’s recognition of the threat of political Islam, but none more than the architects of Obama foreign policy and the many talking heads, reporters, think tank wags and politicians who supported it and comprised their “echo chamber.”

Linda

“Pecker-boy’s blog.” Ha ha ha! Wolf, you are too much!

rayzorbak

Brennan!

phoenixRising

THREAD

churchmouse

From Chakrabarti:

michaelh

DAMAGE CONTROL.
I don’t buy that crude references to bovine methane emissions were just “drafts”. Those “drafts” were very “drafty”.
The whole thing STINKS.
Heartland has the docs:comment image
GREEN NEW DEAL: FACT SHEET AND FAQ FROM REP. ALEXANDRIA OCASIO-CORTEZ AND SEN. EDWARD MARKEY
FEBRUARY 8, 2019
By Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
https://www.heartland.org/publications-resources/publications/green-new-deal-fact-sheet-and-faq-from-rep-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-and-sen-edward-markey
https://www.heartland.org/_template-assets/documents/Green-New-Deal-FAQ-Fact-Sheet-Feb-7-2019.pdf

churchmouse

Agree, Michael.

michaelh

drillerelite

So driller-son has a break from bible school and brought a friend with him to hang out. Friend’s iPhone goes kaput so they have to go to apple store yesterday. He laughed as he recalled to me the joy of standing there, on his Galaxy, wearing this shirt:comment image
Good times 😄. He’s finding quite a mission redpilling his peers, even many at bible school are in need of redpilling apparently.

drillerelite

Whoa, that came out big 😳

phoenixRising

no worries… they all come out about that size (the better for these ol’ eyes to see 😉

singingsoul

The blog is so great that I have trouble pulling away. The bloggers are not bad either..:)
So much to do so little time because I mesmerized by the open Q Tree…

drillerelite

I hear ya. That’s sweet singingsoul ❤

judyw

Oh, me too! I keep interrupting myself to get back here today!

judyw

drillerelite, it wasn’t anything you did. Everything involving Trump just shows up bigger, better…you know the drill!…ahead of schedule and under budget! LOL

drillerelite

Ha! That’s great 😆

sobriquet3

Q drop

churchmouse

Thanks, sobriquet3.
Text from drop 2676 (Feb. 9):
‘Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 4662eb No.5094276 📁
Feb 9 2019 15:48:12 (EST)
‘Optics are important.
Stealth bombers silent?
Re_read Mueller re: ‘designed to’ drops.
Probe conclusion coming?
[-30]
Coincidence ‘conclusion’ occurring as new AG installed?
What is the purpose of WHITAKER?
Re_read drops re: ‘Scaramucci’ model.
Purpose?
Who did Scaramucci remove?
Effective?
Optics important?
What occurs post installed ‘BLOCKADE’ removal?
DECLAS?
[RR] ‘complete’ removal?
OIG release of findings?
How are they preparing to combat [narrative = vital]?
House intel launch of more ‘FAKE’ investigations in attempt to retain ‘FALSE NARRATIVE’ and claim ‘POLITICAL ATTACK(S)’ if investigated/prosecuted themselves?
[AS]?
[SDNY-AG]?
Attempts to retain ‘BLOCKADE’?
Attempts to prevent public release of the TRUTH?
ZERO leaks re: HUBER?
ZERO.
Do not mistake ‘public’ silence for inaction.
“This is not another 4-year election.”
Q’
Text from drop 2677:
‘Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 4662eb No.5094337 📁
Feb 9 2019 15:52:03 (EST)
“Anonymous ID: 8ef084 No.5094289 📁
Feb 9 2019 15:49:07 (EST)
>>5094276
Welcome Back”
‘>>5094289
We never left.
It’s time to return publicly.
Q’

phoenixRising

Okay…
I’ve read most of Steve’s comments today… and others.
Seems we now have a new “bad guy” – Marica.
First of all, Steve posts a Fare Well THREAD with closed comment section.
Then he reads all of our comments on the daily THREAD and doesn’t comment at all, until I link to a post titled “Abortion” . He then rushes to defend his position by saying he no longer agrees with his own opinion of 2013.
Blogs are open to the public. If I had one (I never had) and shared an opinion and then later not only changed my opinion but failed to post on the blog for years (six)… I would have taken the article down (actually the entire blog).
That’s just me.
But it’s not enough that he DEFEND himself… he smears Marica. No one, not a person here questions that.
Marica is one of the most optimistic people here. She also constantly strokes other posters (sign of a secure personality in my opinion)…
Gonna get back to “life” now… even with wheatie’s tree, this is no longer a comfortable place to be.
Namaste

scott467

“Seems we now have a new “bad guy” – Marica.”
________________
Yep, she’s always causing trouble, that one…
😁

sobriquet3

Wow…I read his 1st post earlier today but pretty much blew it off. Then I see your post and go back to see what ensued. I mistakenly thought he had slammed the door on all of this but the attack on Marcia was totally unwarranted and childish. This makes me sad that he waltz’s back in here and stirs up resentment among those who post here.

Gil

Your post came up before mine. I guess ive missed something.

Gil

I just now read through todays comments and I didnt see an attack. Theres been a joke between them thats been going on but it seems that it wss no longer a joke and steveinco was upset by the misunderstanding. Im not aware of every single conversation each poster has IR most importantly, how each person responds logically or with emotion.
It seems very hasty to quit here already. Seems to me we still are growing a little sapling. Not everything is perfect, maybe a little too much fertilizer at times, but Im still trying to get it to grow.
Take care.

TheseTruths

I agree with this.
Steve’s comments are between him and Marica. If he were still here, his comments might affect the rest of us because of our ongoing contact with her. But he has decided to take his leave.
Marica rocks, by the way!
As for growing a little sapling, the bigger it gets, the more people who perch on it, the more comments there are…the more chance there will be for disagreement and misunderstanding. It is inevitable. The difference between here and *cough* is that we have freedom to work things out here without fear of banishment as long as we behave like human beings. This is a difficult, but achievable, standard. 😎

GA/FL

HEAR, HEAR!!!

singingsoul

phoenixRising
“But it’s not enough that he DEFEND himself… he smears Marica. No one, not a person here questions that.
Marica is one of the most optimistic people here. She also constantly strokes other posters (sign of a secure personality in my opinion)…”
_______________________________________
He smeared Marica? That went right past me and I did not even noticed ( blushing with shame)
Marica is a sweet person how dare he. He feels so superior shame on Steve. You hear that Steve..?
Steve it is one thing to leave but another to hurt others on the way out that says a lot about your character.
” A Rabi saw three women from his Temple sitting on a park bench ,
the Rabi ask each women to tell him about their children.
The first woman said proudly ” my son is a famous doctor.
The second woman said proudly ” my daughter is a famous lawyer .
The third woman said proudley ” my son is a famous Physicist .”
The Rabi thought a minute and said ” you all have genius children but non of you said that your children are good people with good character and moral compass. ”
The moral of the story is education and being a ginious is good but does not trump or compensate for character or being a good Mensch.

Marica

My sweet twin!! I had no idea! I’ve been popping in and out all day..I truly don’t want to be at the center of controversy!! Sorry to Steve or whoever I hurt! HUGS PHOENIX!!!!

Marica

Hugs Back Wheatie!!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

No, it would appear that I have been hurting you for quite some time.
My heartfelt apologies.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

he smears Marica.

Well…there was a long conversation at the end of yesterdays thread where Marica revealed she had not cared for the “cheer up” thing. I was HORRIFIED to read this. I had been aggravating her and she had suffered in silence. So I apologized. Yes, I did also note that she had said nothing to me either today or yesterday, and sadly concluded that she probably didn’t regard me as a friend any more. (I phrased that bit clumsily, unfortunately, it could be read as me writing her off, rather than acknowledging, with sadness, that she had written me off.)
I only mentioned it because Pat had tried to continue the joke, and I wanted to inform Pat it wasn’t welcomed any more.
I will apologize ONCE AGAIN to Marica here and now: Sorry, Marica, for being a continued annoyance to you here.
As for my old blog post in re: abortion–I had FORGOTTEN about it years ago. Who knows what else is over there that I’d find at least mildly embarrassing to read? Towards the end I posted some decent science stuff, but of course “abortion” is alphabetically first in the topic list, though quite old in terms of time (when I perused the blog chronologically a few days ago I didn’t get that far back) and a hot button so guess where people went? I really can’t blame them; I blame myself for leaving it as-is–well, I’ve fixed it, at least.
Honestly, every decision I’ve made, however misguided, was to try to make it as clean a break as possible. A LOT of people stated they were glad I had made that post; a few expressed frustration at being unable to comment. I’ve apologized for that too; that was an error in judgment. Then today, sure enough, my old past comes back to haunt me. Maybe I should have let people continue to think I agreed with late term abortion. I don’t know; would it have been better for people to hate me unjustifiably? Then ANOTHER piece of my past comes into play; it turns out I’ve been offending and aggravating Marica and had no clue. So I try to apologize for THAT too and I get flamed for attacking her, when I was the one doing the offending and I admitted it and apologized.
I now regret my Fare Well post; I should have just let dozens of people wonder what the hell had happened to me.

Alison

Steve – some advice from a well-meaning branch sitter … take a time out, Buddy.
Come back in a few weeks if you want, but stick to your Fare Well and take a break from commenting anymore right now. For the sake of us, if not for your own health.

NebraskaFilly

“For the sake of us?” Speak for yourself! There are FAR too many people here who are terribly judgmental, IMO.

Marica

You Never offended me..Annoyed sometimes–but NEVER offended…You really are the Q tree’s Huckleberry! LOL!! Love ya Steve! Next time you leave–lighten up Francis!! 😘😘😊😎

GA/FL

Well, you could just STAY and remain a welcome and wanted part of the QTree house.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I guess I didn’t hint clearly enough. It was either leave, or really start speaking my mind on a lot of things that would make me VERY unpopular here….well, sort of like I seem to have become (with some people at least) by leaving.

GA/FL

AW – Steve – the Marica joke was a misunderstanding.
The thing about Wolfie’s blog is that we can really and truly argue, disagree, listen, think, live and let live – in love, peace and good will.

TheseTruths

SteveInCO: “As for my old blog post…”
Seems the internet is forever!
Steve: “A LOT of people stated they were glad I had made that post; a few expressed frustration at being unable to comment.”
I’m glad you made that post. As I expressed before, I always enjoyed your comments and wondered why you abruptly left. I have a better understanding now, and I still wish you would reconsider.
Steve: “I don’t know; would it have been better for people to hate me unjustifiably?”
I don’t know of anyone who would hate you even if you still believed in late-term abortion. I wouldn’t. We don’t all have the same belief system or spiritual views, but I can say that, at least in Christianity, we are not taught to hate.
Steve: “I get flamed for attacking…”
Only one person mentioned it that I know of.
Steve: “I now regret my Fare Well post; I should have just let dozens of people wonder what the hell had happened to me.”
To me, you were a valuable poster and I wanted to know where you went. As I said above, there are going to be disagreements. The great people here can work them out and get past them.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Only one person mentioned it that I know of.

Phoenix Rising, Sobriquet, and SingingSoul have all, right here in this sub tree, attacked me and impugned my character for “smearing” Marica. That’s three.

singingsoul

“Phoenix Rising, Sobriquet, and SingingSoul have all, right here in this sub tree, attacked me and impugned my character for “smearing” Marica. That’s three.”
_________________________________________
If you are looking for an argument you are not getting one from me.
If I have been wrong about you I will apologize.
I never attack is not my nature but speak the truth as I see it at the moment. I am known to make mistakes when I am wrong. I never claimed to be perfect and accept my imperfections.
Because I am imperfect and know them I accept imperfections of others.
Steve I am not sure what is going on but what ever it is you know people are very welcoming and kind.
The Tree has many branches and plenty of room.

PeteC

You know, Stevie, we are all in this together. Whether believer or non-believer—agnostic, atheist, or whatever! Our common goal is the salvation of the Republic for our posterity at this critical point in our nations history. I know you know this! And we are all members of this unique body here at QTH, each with an unique background and a different set of skills and gifts—and you are a valuable part of that body! Sure we have differences, but we use that for our greater good and advantage in our common goal. So, Stevie, I hope you will reconsider and stay. Your contributions are valuable to the whole body! We can’t all be good golfers!!! 😳

PeteC

Well, Stevie, I will miss your humor!!! You’re an atheist, and I’m clearly not. Would I buy you dinner…hell yes! Would I invite you to play golf in my group at the club…hell no, we got standards you know!!! LOL. Despite whatever skirmishes are happening here (I elect not to be up to speed!), would be nice if you stayed. Geez, you’ve been banned everywhere else (CTH)! Like about day 680 by now isn’t it? Will miss you! May God bless you in your travels (I know…but it’s my way of asking for your protection in your life travels!!!).

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Would I invite you to play golf in my group at the club…hell no, we got standards you know!!!

True that: You probably want a player who could complete the first hole in less than three hours.
Oh, you mean THOSE standards! Yeah, I doubt bringing a Bible would be sufficient.

Like about day 680 by now isn’t it?

642 days, not that I’m counting, mind you.

holley100

I’m no good at this kind of stuff Steve, but I think you should just “be back”.

PeteC

LOL—no Bibles on golf course, just guns and golf clubs!!!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Oh… GUNS!!! OK sign me up. Uh, wait, you said you couldn’t, Never mind.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

“Uh, Pete?”
“Yeah?”
“Why does Steve’s golf bag contain nothing but rifles?”

Elizabeth Carter

You guys could always just flip a coin.

Cuppa Covfefe

Because he had to shoot some really good rounds?
(sorry…). Miss your knowledge, wit, and puns, Steve, as well as your ability to tackle difficult subjects (geeks needed). I also found a Japanese counting site (appears they have different counting sequences for different things – yikes) that I found while looking for cubist poodles (long story)… Also enjoyed discussing synaesthesia – there are also folks that have other sensory associations with numbers (mine tend toward shock or depression, tho’ ).
https://www.tofugu.com/japanese/japanese-counters-list/
I think I’ll stick to computers and Western languages for number issues 🙂
Hope all is well with you and take care…

PeteC

Well, Stevie can’t golf but he’ll nail that squirrel at 175 yards in that oak tree!!!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Most of my stuff is .308s…so the squirrel would no doubt be a pink cloud, and the bullet would land somewhere bad a mile or two away. Yeah, I’d better not show up at the old golf club.

PeteC

Yes, a 10-22 would be more “friendly” to the smaller game. Have an Armalite .308 tactical (M4 platform)—love the round, and as you said, can be very devastating!!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I’ve got some sort of 22 bolt gun, but without some really premium ammo (which thunderbolt is NOT) and a MUCH better scope on it than it has now, it’s strictly short-range/larger targets. (The reason I bothered with the scope is certain non-correctable eye issues I had [now corrected with contacts], not to turn it into a long range weapon.)

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Steve, no need to apologize for being human although some times I thought you were maybe an alien from some other world light years ahead of us in intelligence.
Just glad you may show up here and expand our world from time to time.

Pat Frederick

I actually got to that post of Steve’s about Marica and had to leave this thread and comb through yesterday’s to discover what he was talking about.
I am complicit in perpetuating the tired joke about Marica because I didn’t realize she wasn’t playing along and this was actually upsetting her.
I apologize to Marica for this! To me it was a “fun” joining in on a joke…and I am sorry I never considered you might not be comfortable with it.
It is never my intention to hurt anyone, but if I do, please just tell me. I admit when I’m wrong and apologize.

Marica

No apologies necessary!! Everybody!! I’m GOOD!!!! I miss Steve too! But I despise DRAMA…so..
can we move on?–Pat– you couldn’t hurt a fly!!

Elizabeth Carter

Marcia, I always considered you more than capable of standing up for yourself and if you couldn’t, Sylvia is always looking for a shovel ready job.
I always just figured you and Steve were teasing each other like family members often do.
I hope Steve stays but he really needs to know that we will not all change we are to make him comfortable. He would not do that for us and we will not do that for him.
Steve is a lot of things, but I have never once thought of him as a snowflake looking for a safe space. I think you both are great.

judyw

Oh, Elizabeth well said! I have no idea what all of this drama is about because I’ve just read a few posts but just don’t have the slightest doubt that Marica has no problems taking care of herself and sometimes the best answer is no response and moving on…. ❤❤❤

churchmouse

pR, if Steve smeared Marica, I missed that completely.
Possibly, it was posted too late for me to see. These days, by the next morning, I’m onto the next thread. There’s so much to read — which is great! I would not hold anyone accountable now for missing certain topics, main posts or comments.
Please don’t leave.
Many of us are busy with offline life. How can we be expected to read every single comment on this flourishing Tree?

scott467

Not sure if it has been posted or not, but…
We’ve got Q!
Q
!!mG7VJxZNCI
9 Feb 2019 – 3:48:12 PM
Optics are important.
Stealth bombers silent?
Re_read Mueller re: ‘designed to’ drops.
Probe conclusion coming?
[-30]
Coincidence ‘conclusion’ occurring as new AG installed?
What is the purpose of WHITAKER?
Re_read drops re: ‘Scaramucci’ model.
Purpose?
Who did Scaramucci remove?
Effective?
Optics important?
What occurs post installed ‘BLOCKADE’ removal?
DECLAS?
[RR] ‘complete’ removal?
OIG release of findings?
How are they preparing to combat [narrative = vital]?
House intel launch of more ‘FAKE’ investigations in attempt to retain ‘FALSE NARRATIVE’ and claim ‘POLITICAL ATTACK(S)’ if investigated/prosecuted themselves?
[AS]?
[SDNY-AG]?
Attempts to retain ‘BLOCKADE’?
Attempts to prevent public release of the TRUTH?
ZERO leaks re: HUBER?
ZERO.
Do not mistake ‘public’ silence for inaction.
“This is not another 4-year election.”
Q

Alison

“ZERO leaks about Huber”
I pray that this is huge. We SO need someone on the Rule of Law side to be following the law and executing it properly.

Alison

Any idea what the “stealth bombers silent?” means ? I’m especially perplexed by the question mark at the end.

RAC

What does this mean ……….
[-30]
Is it a countdown, 30 days?

RAC

I was thinking back to the 60’s when we watched the rocket launches on TV. They refered to it as T minus some time period untill it took off then it was T plus.
Q does seem to have a thing for pedicting when things are going to happen.

RAC
sobriquet3
sobriquet3
Marica

Wheatie!!! Q drop is almost as good as your Tree pics!!! YAY!!!

Marica

Silent Eagle! Oh yes!! Whitaker gonna have a place in the Trump Admin! Sure of that!!

Alison

I hope they keep him in DOJ if he can be a Mr. Clean-er 😊
Silent Eagle : something about Soaring with Talons of Death (to our enemies)

Steve in Lewes

Whitaker now has gotten his feet wet so how about Deputy AG under Barr !

Marica

easy peasy Steve!! GREAT IDEA!

Pat Frederick

cuz Bald Eagle, although a better descriptor, would be rude right?

Alison

It is poetic justice – “some” implied our open thread has a dearth of Q discussion, and too much religion.
*and just like that* …Q drops 😊
Kinda like a prayer answered?

Marica

Exactly Like a Prayer answered!!!! Maybe Wolfie is Q?😉

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

He no doubt had this drop q’ed up a few days ago.

Cuppa Covfefe

Also “We never left” is good…

realsauce

John Q Public!

Gil
Gil

I just looked it up, something along the lines of “your duty”.

Gil

Some guy in the US dreams up the Trump rooster to mock us, which tyrned out awesome, but the Italians make this ginormous god Emperor and put it in a carnivale parade to celebrate geotus. Its amazing.
Id buy it in an action figure if I could. 😀

Marica

me too Gil!!!

Alison

Look at that TALON! Yowser 🇺🇸

drillerelite
drillerelite

Like this one, “welp, got my halloween costume picked out” hah, me too!

Alison

“where is that?”
“texas”
“It’s to guard the border.”
🚂🚂🤣🤣🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

bflyjesusgrl

YES!!!!🤗🤗🤗

Alison

Wow! Even more awesome from that viewpoint! Thanks Drillerelite!

drillerelite

Ha! Reddit is hilarious

bflyjesusgrl

Twitter Sword of Truth!!

kea

Good
Nick Sandmann’s Lawyer: “Nathan Phillips Will be Sued For His Defamatory Lies”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/02/nick-sandmanns-lawyer-nathan-phillips-will-be-sued-for-his-defamatory-lies/

GA/FL

redlegleader68

Well, I can’t say I haven’t been asking for it. New Q – if you haven’t checked, please do so.
W – what’s your take??
WWG1WGA …

drillerelite

Sounds to me like Our President is about to get control of the justice department, finally. But I don’t have an easy time interpreting raw Q so, who knows

Marica

Gil

Q said repeatedly theres no stopping whats coming. The fast and complete white hat win to wipe the smug off all their faces will be a history book on its own.

Gil

Has anyone seen minnie? Is she still OT? Ive only seen her here a couple times.
And..Miss Sylvia, are you all better now?

kea

Miss Sylvia was ready to give Candace Owens a shovel the other day. 🙂
But at the way the dems are going Sylvia you are going to need a BIGGER shovel!!!!!!!

Marica

GIL!!!!! That is awesome!!!! Sylvia gonna LOVE THAT!

Gil

Its probably not big enough….

Alison

LOL. You guys are killing me! I wish we could alert Q to Sylvia’s shovel !

kea

Its a start but it needs to be Bigger….. 😀

Cuppa Covfefe

Ya Dig ??? 🙂

Marica

minnie said Hi here once. I miss her. Sylvia is still here!! Saw her this morning I believe!!

Marica
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

On my way out, but came here to post the anon has resurfaced.
Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 4662eb No.5094276 📁
Feb 9 2019 15:48:12 (EST)
Optics are important.
Stealth bombers silent?
Re_read Mueller re: ‘designed to’ drops.
Probe conclusion coming?
[-30]
Coincidence ‘conclusion’ occurring as new AG installed?
What is the purpose of WHITAKER?
Re_read drops re: ‘Scaramucci’ model.
Purpose?
Who did Scaramucci remove?
Effective?
Optics important?
What occurs post installed ‘BLOCKADE’ removal?
DECLAS?
[RR] ‘complete’ removal?
OIG release of findings?
How are they preparing to combat [narrative = vital]?
House intel launch of more ‘FAKE’ investigations in attempt to retain ‘FALSE NARRATIVE’ and claim ‘POLITICAL ATTACK(S)’ if investigated/prosecuted themselves?
[AS]?
[SDNY-AG]?
Attempts to retain ‘BLOCKADE’?
Attempts to prevent public release of the TRUTH?
ZERO leaks re: HUBER?
ZERO.
Do not mistake ‘public’ silence for inaction.
“This is not another 4-year election.”
Q

Pat Frederick

“Beto” plans to be in El Paso at a protest when POTUS is there…and they used a go-fund me account so they can have the baby trump balloon…what a loser!!!
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/02/09/trump-beto-face-off-el-paso-dueling-rallies-near-border/2822324002/

Pat Frederick

I was secretly hoping for that…or a drone gone berserk…I heard they can do that you know…lol

Marica

That should get him elected…Goodness these People are Stupid!

Pat Frederick

I think we need to start using these people’s real names, not some trendy nicknames…it’s WILLIARD Romney, ROBERT FRANCIS O’Rourke…no more cool facades…

Marica

Williard–That RAT! YUP!

judyw

I will have a hard time erasing that (SOTU) greasy hair from my mind when his name surfaces from here on out….which will probably not be forever…

TatonkaWoman

Great thought,vPat. I’m on board.

GA/FL

Democr4ps sure are sore losers. Hillary, Beto and Abrams just can’t accept defeat.

Pat Frederick
GA/FL

Sure looks like his loud plaid pants!

Pat Frederick

lol

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Doesn’t matter. No one is going to believe him. It’s his 2 pages in his medical school yearbook. It also brought to light his racist behavior toward Pastor E.W. Jackson in the 2013 lt. Gov. race debate.

Gil

So i think they will start the impeachment process on min unless he gets a payday. Will he go full blm sjw if thats the case?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes. He has the race card to play, and has already used it. I think the Black Caucus and many high level Dems must feel he is a liability or they wouldn’t be pushing him out the door.

Pat Frederick

IKR?
I can hear the dialogue he’s having in his head: “focus on the picture, focus on the picture, focus on the picture…”

Alison

Good comment, Wheatie. I think the Coonman nickname is even more egregious than the blackface costume. You are correct that a nickname is an identifier with longer lasting, and sometimes deeper, meaning.
I’m not from the South, but I am still amazed that such a name would be publicly posted in a yearbook in the 80s.

Pat Frederick

what ever happened to “I’ll show you mine, if you show me yours?” LOL
https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/02/09/when-will-democrats-fixated-on-trumps-tax-returns-release-their-own/

churchmouse

Thanks, Pat.
The wealthier one is, the more complicated the tax returns.
S.I. Newhouse was the former head of Conde Nast (magazine publishers).
From the article (emph. mine):
‘… when the IRS audited S.I. Newhouse’s estate returns which, were prepared after his death in 1979, they wanted another $609.5 million in taxes based on their estimated the value of his estate. The Newhouse lawyers and accountants challenged the IRS’s estimate. Eventually, the [case] went to court where it took another seven years for a judge to resolve the battle (in the Newhouse’s favor). That truth probably escapes the Democratic hate team.
‘Pelosi doesn’t want money to be spent on a wall to secure America’s borders, but she also doesn’t want America to know how much money she has made and paid in taxes. Supposedly she is worth almost $30 million and didn’t release her tax returns (or respond) when Roll Call asked her in 2017. Maybe Pelosi just doesn’t like Roll Call, because when McClatchy asked for her tax returns in 2012, Pelosi replied to them. She refused, but at least she replied. However, paraphrasing the traditional Democratic Party anti-Trump canard, “What is Pelosi trying to hide?”
‘House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff announced his committee would undertake an investigation into whether the president’s personal interests are driving his actions. Schiff said the inquiry would “allow us to investigate any credible allegation that financial interests or other interests are driving decision-making of the President or anyone in the administration.”
‘But Schiff is another Democrat who refused to release his returns or respond to Roll Call. I for one would love to learn if he is receiving payment to make all those anti-Trump leaks …’

Cuppa Covfefe

Hmmm. VSGPDJT is working for free.
Is Schiffwreck doing the same???
(No, actually the oppostite. He’s taking the money, but doing nothing useful…).

churchmouse

x 1000, CC!

Marica

LOL!

Alison

#ROFLMAO 🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣😂😂

Pat Frederick

so THAT’S what happened…LOL

rayzorbak

New Q Drops

Marica
GA/FL

PRESIDENT TRUMP is tweeting and retweeting up a STORM!
Too many to post them all….my favorite:

GA/FL

Basking in the MAGA!!!

Gil

All leading to Valentine’s Day(even though its a made up retail gimmick) and most importantly, President’s day weekend. Lots of good stuff. Rbg is supposed to actually show up and the shutdown looms too. MOAR please.

Elizabeth Carter

Doesn’t he have work to do? 8 tweets. Really? LOL

drillerelite

Lol, I just noticed and hastily posted down thread. This is fun!

Marica

https://twitter.com/k_ovfefe/status/1094374753517883397
Think Italy will give him to us so we can put him here?

Marica
michaelh
drillerelite

Oh, this is the one I reposted, great minds I guess. Dang he’s funny!

Elizabeth Carter

Anons make me giggle. This is a fun drop. Whether it is true or not, it puts things into a different perspective.
2/09/19 (Sat) 17:59:0037ab17 No.5096604
Ok fellas … a quick theory or observations
When was the first boom? When was the boomerang thrown?
Let’s review what we just witnessed
We first went through the Kavanaugh hearings where we set the stage for sexual assault accusations and guilty before proven innocent. We also picked up #fakemetoo and #mediabias
We then continue the flight to late term abortions and infanticide. Off course the outrage continues as we watch the media defend it and libs celebrating.
But then the boomerang start to slow down as it reaching its Apex… making a start to return back to where it came from … taking out everything in its path
– Gov Northram blackface pic comes out and immediately Mark Herring AG says he should step down
– Fairfax is accusedof sexual assault
– Herring admits to blackface
– Second accuser for Fairfax comes out
-media personnel like Joyless BayFart, Jimmy Kibbles and Bits, Silverman, Fallon, Tom Hanks etc all have blackface in the past
But what was needed to get this going? We needed an example of blackface reprimanding …
could Meghan Kelly have been the set up the whole time? NBC is full of blackface and sexual assaults …
Q always tells us that we are watching a movie and that this all happens with control and to think how can all this be so precise
Easily Meghan could be in on it
Also i know it’s crazy but what if it’s not over here..
What is Fairfax is also in on it … these 2 women don’t want to press charges??
Could trump really be playing this kind of 5D chess
Fairfax says he is innnocent but is forced down .. meanwhile that domino sets into motion the forced hands of the others 2 white democrats to leave otherwise it looks racist
Meanwhile trump makes some statement about … hey we should belive Fairfax
Then it comes out that in fact he was telling the truth and Fairfax goes to the republicans and brings with him more monitory vote and trump and republicans looks more compassionate and more like the party of inclusion
Think about it.. Fairfax is a Lynch pin here… he is a control point in this … he is not leaving and saying he is innocent …
We quickly

Cuppa Covfefe

“Joyless BayFart”.. Epic… Erm, SOUNDS (or whatever) like she’s signed onto the “Green Monster’s” agenda…

drillerelite

Ha! Epic trolling

drillerelite

VSGPDJT Is on a roll today 🤣

Linda
JasonD

Lisa says .. “Great timing too…so many people get worked up when Q isn’t posting”
Too right. We’ve just lost two long time “Q tree” friends due to getting “worked up when Q isn’t posting”
We need to guard against this in the future. My advice is to self monitor and take a step back from commenting if you are feeling “worked up” when events do not proceed at the pace that your heart desires.
Easy for me to say, I just happened to be otherwise engaged IRL during this lull ….

churchmouse

‘We’ve just lost two long time “Q tree” friends due to getting “worked up when Q isn’t posting”’. I hadn’t thought of it like that.
Q is not the primary reason for my posting here.
For me, it’s the MAGA fellowship that counts.

andrew1979

sometimes it’s not anything to do with q – because that’s not a complete fascination for us all, rather a means to an end possibly for getting the word out to those not tuned in previously (as i believe stated by one of the q posters themselves early on)
for myself if q had never been around nothing would have changed for me. i was already onto the path of the evil for many years in different ways (if you recall some of our early posts back and forth together at this site you know what i mean) and truth be told, after feeling this way for over 30 years (and i’m only mid 40’s so that’s saying something) i have been past the red pill excitement and have been steadily moving into the black pill for years now despite my heart not wanting to – my brain keeps over-riding that emotion.
i never wanted to get excited over a possible awakening, but once things started rolling and i saw people in real life i knew starting to believe things i NEVER would have ever thought they would even engage in conversation about, i admit despite my huge misgivings, i started to get back that feeling i had in my late teens and early 20’s where i would love to red pill people at all times of the day.
so what my frustration revolves around most of the time is what i feel is a lack of urgency, or constantly being behind the play, or being blindsided by something and then reacting to it, and the still present feeling i think some have that things can proceed as they have been and people are going to figure out what’s going on and choose good over evil.
it’s not a good vs. evil thing. it’s not something we really have a choice in. it’s not even something that is still up for grabs – it’s happening, it has happened and it will continue to happen. the abortion laws, the lgbtq+ infiltration, the acceptance of pedophilia, the fight against religions (not islam), the further reduction in our own civil rights and constitutional rights, the disarming of citizens…i think we could go on here. but the point being – ALL of those things are in play, they are all compromised and in many cases the writing is on the wall either in plain daylight with signed laws, or happening before our eyes while we are distracted with all sorts of baloney. and make no mistake most if not all of this is happening unabated at the state level right in front of our eyes.
our country’s government is compromised. it is corrupt. the federal branches of government and the judicial branch also are almost in need of a complete do over and that is not a small task.
while i am and always can be patient (again, the 30+ years) the urgency i feel in my body and mind will not ever allow me to hardly enjoy a laugh at the evil that fights against us. every AOC donkey meme that i see i cringe at – it was funny the first time when she was running for office – but she should have never gotten past that point – her past was never even investigated or brought up. the woman in minnesota alleged to have married her own brother. i mean, how was this not even brought up? and when i say “never brought up” what i mean is MANY MANY people don’t view 4 or 8 chan, they probably don’t even know what reddit is, christ, i have NEVER even had anyone in real life ever say anything good or bad about this q figure – honestly nobody even said “have you heard of this crazy q or whatever they call it?” nothing. i only know of it because in the type of internet world i have lived in since the 90’s i couldn’t miss it.
we are at a serious moment in time. and maybe it is people like me, who have some kind of feeling, or others who have idealistic thoughts about what should and should not be, maybe we are the ones that will have to sacrifice our beliefs for the ever changing conscience of humankind. maybe we will be proven wrong. maybe we will give in and just become bitter when our beliefs have been shown to be divisive and racists and everything else.
because when you think about it – things have gotten to the point by now that there is no going back unless it’s a massive torrent of truth and honesty that is to come out. and that can only come out in a way that’s not sugar coated.

JasonD

Great to hear from you again Andrew!! Your timing is spot on, as usual …
I just watched this YT as you must have been typing your reply to me – check it out. It basically spells out everything you just laid out ..

andrew1979

thanks man… checking it out now.

andrew1979

just as an example of us not being in front of issues – or as i put it being “behind the play” – these abortion laws that have been brought up and even passed into LAW as in the new york case. all of these made mention that they were brought forth in an attempt to put into law these measures because they were worried that RoeVWade would be overturned.
now there has been little to no mention of rVw being overturned, but they are out in front of it. our federal govt. could not even get a bill passed to protect even a child that was born alive.
new york also recently passed a bill to not be able to discriminate on employment due to a person’s immigration status. again, getting out in front of the situation and basically stating it’s fine to not have proper immigration or citizen status.
while i am definitely for state’s rights, what i believe is that the citizens of the states should make these decisions, explicitly, by voting in a state election for a question that asks in no uncertain terms what you are for or against. i do not believe the state legislatures should have the ability to jam these types of bills through.

rayzorbak

With all due respect………
I reject the notion to “step back”….
Or “Censor” ourselves…
We are ADULTS here…….
NOT snowflakes….
I hear much WORSE every day than anything posted here.

andrew1979

absolutely. it’s when you want to step back or censor that you need to think about what is driving that.

JasonD

Well, all the adults I know treat each other with respect ala the “Golden Rule”. We all censor ourselves in our public discourse – it is the human way …
All I am saying is that if you are feeling frustrated, take a chill pill, read more than comment, and add to the debate when you have something to contribute. This is my opinion, which is worth about as much as any other. Do with it what you will …
When you say we are adults here, how do you know this? Seriously. The vast majority of “people” here are posting behind masks. Fair enough. I choose not to mask myself to the same extent as others, my name and photo are up.
Some here are claiming to pick up their toys and exit stage left – this is what my “advice” is aimed at to minimise. I would prefer it if no one left.
Your advice/opinion works for you, but some are still leaving / wanting to leave. My advice / opinion may be no good, or it may be helpful to some- who knows? I find that it works for me, that is why my commenting frequency is quite variable.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I agree with Jason and Andrew here. As ADULTS we should have the self control to take a cooling off period when we need it as well as a renewal period if needed. I’ve had to do it. The truth is popping off in the heat of the moment can be detrimental to the site, especially when considering that we’re outnumbered by lurkers by a large margin.
Sometimes walking away gives one the opportunity to formulate a better answer as well.
Just food for thought.

rayzorbak

Ok… so which is it?
I took Andrews comment:
“it’s when you want to step back or censor that you need to think about what is driving that.”
as…. what (or WHO) is driving us to “step back” or “censor”?
Jason seems to be all for Censorship….. either self imposed or shamed into…
I am all for FREEDOM of speech…..
People do NOT have the right to not be irritated, insulted or whatever….
That attitude is what has lead to the PC culture that I abhor….
I would really like to hear others views about this matter.

TheseTruths

Here’s what I think people are saying (and I could be wrong, of course):
We have freedom of speech in America. Wolfmoon has allowed us freedom of speech on this site. Each of us has the power and ability to decide how much we are going to say, and when. I think people are saying that wisdom and self-knowledge would sometimes constrain us to think before speaking, or even to take a break and step away for a while, according to our own needs (not censorship by others).

rayzorbak

Just to clarify
I in no way mean to be insulting or offensive…..
If I have been…. I apologize.
But I do have opinions like everyone else….
I would prefer HONEST debate like this than to BAN or shame others.
I have often “Held my tongue” when I disagree in order to not make matters worse.
But, sometimes…. we have to speak up.

JasonD

I took nothing you said as insulting, though you did appear to misunderstand my point when you said “Jason seems to be all for Censorship”
This is how easily communication goes awry. You have preconceived ideas about topic A, someone offers an opinion about said topic, and off you go giving credence to your preconceived ideas …
I am against censorship, but I am not for open slather, let her rip, say whatever pops into your mind either.
Nuance exists in this area, and ADULTS know how to use nuance … With the right to freedom of speech comes the responsibility to exercise it wisely …
I can only but endorse the comment by TheseTruths upthread …

rayzorbak

You seemed (to me) to be advocating “stepping back” and not saying what you think,
or (self Censoring” your comment(s)
Another commenter replied:
“absolutely. it’s when you want to step back or censor that……
you need to think about what is driving that.”
That was my point (we need to reverse the PC thought police tactics)
Though I may not be as eloquent as you and others….
Anyway, Here again…
Maybe we just need to agree to disagree
God Bless You

JasonD

I think we are arguing around each other. I was addressing the point of people posting whilst frustrated, you are addressing the bigger point of self censorship as imposed by PC thought police.
If that was the point you are making, I agree with you 100%. You may have missed my smaller point in view of your interest in the bigger point?

rayzorbak

I agree with this…
This right HERE is exactly why we should have open and HONEST discussions…
Not hold back and/or self censor.
Things seem to work out better this way.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

That’s just it. Don’t make matters worse.

Gil

Never Trump is obsessed.comment image

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Or guilt ridden if Dave Janda is to be believed.

drillerelite

❤ that it is wheaticomment image

holley100

Wow what a beauty!!!

singingsoul

driller your dog almost looks like my Woodford except Woodford is more brindle. The ears and body shape is similar.
You have a sweet dog 🙂 I know mine is..:)

drillerelite

Thanks, he is a gift for sure! He’s predominantly red heeler with amstaff (pit bull type) and great pyrenees. He’s my drilling partner and all around great family protector. Yours sounds like a gift too!

kea

Very cute.
I myself love beagles. 🙂

drillerelite

Beagles are sweet, and pretty smart

Sylvia Avery

Oh, how handsome!

drillerelite

Thanks, he gets that a lot. I’m having a hard time not letting it get to his head

Sylvia Avery

Ha, ha! Seriously, he is a beautiful dog.

drillerelite

I know, drillerwife and I have to remind each other “don’t idolize him” ha!

Sylvia Avery

Good luck with that!

drillerelite

Hah! I know

drillerelite

God forbid he finds out about the site I set up, pretty much all about him, lol.
https://drillerelite.wordpress.com/

Sylvia Avery

I’ll check it out! Thanks!

NebraskaFilly

Oh, dear….I was so afraid he would shoot the dog! Phew!

Sylvia Avery

I love all animals. Dogs are something special. And some dogs…well, there are some dogs that are surely some kind of angel or other special being sent to us by God when we need them the most.

drillerelite

Can’t believe I missed this earlier, wonder what will come out of this next summit. I have a feeling big things will

holley100

Dogs are the best!

JasonD

Are you inadvertently calling someone a “dog”? Looks like WP mixed up who you replied to … 🙂

drillerelite

Lol!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yeah, it looks like you screwed the pooch here.

drillerelite

🤦‍♂️😆

holley100

Coding error! 🙂

Cuppa Covfefe

Looks like WP is having a wuff time of it…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Low quality Q thread is up, right on Q.

drillerelite

Glad you’re still here Steve, hope the new thread brings in some good insight and discussion.
I didn’t want to comment much before since I’m pretty new here and have no idea the dynamics between some our fellow posters but did want to say I’ve always enjoyed reading yours, even at OT (as I think it’s referred?)
I also appreciated our initial convo.
Anyways, looks like you’re sticking around, somewhat? Hope you are and glad to see the drillbillys didn’t drive you off.
To you, my friend and others who post here, any feuds are gonna have to be amongst ya’ll’s self because I just don’t know nor care the history here with that and I’ll just scroll through. Hope peace for all of ya.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Well it certainly sounds like you all know the drill.
(Ducks behind cover, hoping it’s not just concealment.)

drillerelite

Oh gawd, definitely should have seen that coming. Got me, square ‘tween the eyes, hahah

TheseTruths

Funny bit, that.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

That one made me up chuck.

drillerelite

Figures you guys would a way to auger in some puns there

drillerelite

… find a way, jeez, poor Steve tonight, my precision is way off

Sylvia Avery

Thanks for doing that Steve! I’ll go check it out pronto.

churchmouse

Further to Wolfmoon’s post on TurningPoint US: an English friend of mine alerted me to the fact that they are launching in the UK.
This is a complicated subject.
I will try to make this as brief as I can.
Therefore, please read to the end before commenting.
My friend told me that, according to British media, TurningPoint UK were a bunch of conservative elitists, ‘trust fund babies’, as we call them.
That’s odd, because a recent edition of the society magazine Tatler, said that Silicon Valley was cultivating the wealthiest of the young British elite (we’re talking sons and daughters of nobility here). So, it would not appear as if TurningPoint UK fits this picture.
Some body or some bodies are no doubt funding propaganda against TurningPoint UK — and rather successfully.
Despite Brexit, most Conservative British voters — including Leavers — tow the party line. They also do NOT read non-mainstream media websites FOR THE MOST PART.
One well-educated, well-heeled Conservative male contemporary told me, ‘I will gladly watch mainstream morning news shows, but I would never read conspiracy news like The Daily Caller‘.
Yes, really.
Therefore, BuzzFeed’s article captured the atmosphere well in appealing to people like him. Here’s the link:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexspence/pro-trump-turning-point-loses-star-activists
Keep in mind that 99% of Britons know nothing about TurningPoint US, including Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk.
So, BuzzFeed comes up with a load of points designed to turn off the average Briton — including those who voted to Leave in the Brexit referendum.
I have to admit that BuzzFeed’s journo Alex Spence did a brilliant job (yes and no) here. Putting myself in a fellow Briton’s shoes, I, too — were I not reading A LOT of US pro-Trump websites — would think that TurningPoint US/UK were a bunch of kooks.
As it happens, I do not think that way.
On to the BuzzFeed article (link above).
There’s a photo of Candace Owens looking like an exploited woman standing next to Charlie Kirk: photographic genius for the Left.
Then, Alex Spence, who co-authored the article, began to outline just how Kirk and Owens were failing to capture a British audience. He mentioned Owens’s questionable (to my mind, and to many Europeans) explanation about a certain AH, formerly of Austria, then of Germany 70+ years ago.
The article went on to say that Tom Harwood, a journalist for Guido Fawkes (a long-standing prominent UK libertarian-conservative site), decided to drop out of TurningPoint UK. (I cannot really blame him.)
It turns out that George Farmer, Candace’s fiancé from London, is the chair of TurningPoint UK.
That said, BuzzFeed reports that Oliver Anisfeld appears to be in the top spot (if I understand correctly from the article). If he is who I think he is, their smoked fish is splendid:
‘The UK chief executive is Oliver Anisfeld, 24, whose family owns a salmon smokehouse in London, and it is chaired by George Farmer. Farmer is the 29-year-old son of a multimillionaire hedge fund trader and Tory peer. He is engaged to Owens. An ardent supporter of Trump and Brexit, Farmer tweeted this week after Turning Point’s launch: “Plenty of snowflakes melting in London tonight.”’
‘Farmer’s father, Lord Michael Farmer, is one of the Tories’ most influential supporters. A devout Christian who made a fortune as a commodities trader, he is estimated to be worth £141 million, according to the Sunday Times Rich List. Lord Farmer has given more than £8 million to the Tories since 2001, according to Electoral Commission records, and was also a major donor to the Vote Leave campaign. He was made a life peer by David Cameron in 2014.’
Fair enough. But there’s also someone involved with TurningPoint UK who is a Scientologist (errgh):
‘Another person who is involved with the group is John Mappin, a 54-year-old hotelier who has been one of Donald Trump’s biggest boosters in the UK. Mappin, who owns the Camelot Castle hotel in Tintagel, Cornwall, wrote to Trump during the 2016 presidential election campaign awarding Trump an “honorary knighthood”. He claims to have won £110,000 betting that Trump would be elected and to have been the third Briton to have a personal meeting with the new president behind Farage and Theresa May.
‘Mappin is a Scientologist who produces digital videos at his castle under the banner of the “Camelot TV Network.” On social media, he posts about his admiration for Trump, the benefits of the “superpower technology” developed by Scientology’s founder L. Ron Hubbard, and the dangers of socialism, the “fake” news media, vaccines, and psychiatry…’
We can see where this is going, and it’s not good for the UK launch.
That said, the launch is planned for mid-March this year:

There’s a BBC article about TurningPoint UK at the BBC website:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-47159137
Americans should be aware that an organisation called Turning Point existed long before TurningPoint UK. Turning Point is a mental health organisation.
Sorry for the length. Readers will have to look at the linked articles to find out more.
My friend says that TurningPoint UK needs to fight back. I agree.

Cuppa Covfefe

More Spamalot than Camelot…
Sounds like that fellow is a rotter sent in to ruin the organization (had to keep myself from saying “org”, a $cieno expression). Maybe the fellow had LRH’s “Management Tech” to help him, or perhaps is employing the “fair game” methods used and developed by Flubbard.
Maybe someone should ask him about Lisa McPherson(RIP)… or what RRPF means… or who “David Miss Cabbage” is…
Those cultists belong in “Saint Ill Manor”…
(Hmm. Need I mention clams, volcanos, and Xeno to be declared an SP (again)??? )…

churchmouse

It seems you are saying he is a plant?

kea

US Ambassador Richard Grenell Tells Off Angry Hollywood Lesbian – “Stop the Dishonest Verbal Hate!”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/02/ouch-gay-us-ambassador-richard-grenell-tells-off-angry-hollywood-lesbian-stop-the-dishonest-verbal-hate/
You tell them Mr. Grenell!!!!

churchmouse

Thanks, Kea.
Whoa! Tweet (from the article):
https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell/status/1094354915294629894

kea

Yup!!! Thanks for pulling the tweet. 🙂

Gil

Shes gone militant sjw. Angry, not the starlet by any means anymore and wants to tear ithers diwn. Shes an avowed atheist and although she lives in l.a. she sure hates the USA.

NebraskaFilly

“More than 100,000 children and adults with special needs around the world dressed to the nines to attend prom Friday evening as part of the Tim Tebow Foundation-sponsored “Night to Shine” event.”
https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2019/02/09/tim-tebows-2019-night-to-shine-prom-in-photos-video/

Molly Pitcher

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AOC’s chief of staff wearing a shirt that celebrates India’s fascist Subhas Chandra Bose… allied with Hitler & Imperial Japan… believed that India should adopt a synthesis of Socialism (nazism) and communism
This is AOC’s chief of staff, writing her stuff….any wonder where her ideas come from??

Molly Pitcher

It sure does. I’m beginning to believe all of them are well coached plants just like BHO. Who ever ‘they’ are, they find a well spoken token (lol) and infuse them with the ideas to promote under their guiding hand.

Gil

I just showed this to mr gil. Boy is he angry.

Molly Pitcher

….and it’s working. If there’s ever going to be a real BOOM I wish it would happen soon.
Seriously I ‘d rather have good ol boys giving each other a leg up and cash in their pockets than to have a a growing cadre of genuine anti Americans actually in power..enacting laws.
FUBAR…every aspect of govt except PDJT.

Gil

THANK YOU. This needs to be out there bigly.

Molly Pitcher

YW . Share it if you go other places

para59r

Saved and will be sure to drop it any AOC stories I stop by. Often.

NebraskaFilly

Someone who can still post OT should pass this on – I read a few comments from people wondering about her origins.

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judyw

WM, Hilarious thought ran through my mind as I read a few back & forth & beyond comments about things I know nothing about that the one positive in all of it was driving up comment #’s! LOL

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HA!!! LOOOOOL!!!
Yes, the silver lining in the radioactive cloud! 😉

michaelh

Bring forward 600!

Molly Pitcher

Seven mumps cases confirmed at Houston ICE detention facility
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-mumps/seven-mumps-cases-confirmed-at-houston-ice-detention-facility-idUSKCN1PY0NF
Measles also making a big comeback in Wa,Tx,Ga,NY, Or
ABC News~ ( re cases in Houston) A number of specific details about the cases in Houston have not been publicly disclosed, including how it is believed that the individuals contracted the disease and if they were previously vaccinated.
Build The Wall!

judyw

Molly, I’ve said it before …. human bio weapons!

drillerelite

Moar new Q!!
https://qanon.pub/

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michaelh

Our warriors stand ready!
Men – to your KEYBOARDS!!!

NebraskaFilly

and women…..