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Seeing the Slavery SUNDAY
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Seeing the Slavery Sunday

Chains of Slavery to Sin


We know that our old sinful selves were crucified with Christ so that sin might lose its power in our lives. We are no longer slaves to sin. 

For when we died with Christ we were set free from the power of sin. 

And since we died with Christ, we know we will also live with him.

We are sure of this because Christ was raised from the dead, and he will never die again. Death no longer has any power over him. 

10 When he died, he died once to break the power of sin. But now that he lives, he lives for the glory of God. 

11 So you also should consider yourselves to be dead to the power of sin and alive to God through Christ Jesus.

12 Do not let sin control the way you live; do not give in to sinful desires. 

13 Do not let any part of your body become an instrument of evil to serve sin. Instead, give yourselves completely to God, for you were dead, but now you have new life. So use your whole body as an instrument to do what is right for the glory of God. 

14 Sin is no longer your master, for you no longer live under the requirements of the law. Instead, you live under the freedom of God’s grace.

15 Well then, since God’s grace has set us free from the law, does that mean we can go on sinning? Of course not! 

16 Don’t you realize that you become the slave of whatever you choose to obey? You can be a slave to sin, which leads to death, or you can choose to obey God, which leads to righteous living. 

17 Thank God! Once you were slaves of sin, but now you wholeheartedly obey this teaching we have given you. 

18 Now you are free from your slavery to sin, and you have become slaves to righteous living.

19 Because of the weakness of your human nature, I am using the illustration of slavery to help you understand all this. Previously, you let yourselves be slaves to impurity and lawlessness, which led ever deeper into sin. Now you must give yourselves to be slaves to righteous living so that you will become holy.

20 When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the obligation to do right. 

21 And what was the result? You are now ashamed of the things you used to do, things that end in eternal doom. 

2But now you are free from the power of sin and have become slaves of God. Now you do those things that lead to holiness and result in eternal life. 

23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 6:6-23

Okay, I get it.
Spiritually, we are slaves to whatever we choose to obey.

According to Jesus, “… if the Son sets you free, you shall be free indeed.” And that’s pretty good news. When we cry out to God for mercy, there is an exchange. We are “redeemed” from slavery and adopted as sons. This is the Gospel, good news.

Life Liberty and Property NCCS

Life, Liberty and Property

The founding fathers were pretty keen on throwing off the yoke of oppression they suffered at the hand of England to become free. And I believe that there was discussion about extending their emancipation to women and slaves.
Perhaps at the time they felt they could not raise the support for their efforts if they went that far. I don’t know. But in any case, full freedom for all people was not codified into American law until much later. And for the indigenous people, they were still being treated as “less than” into the 1940’s (at least as exemplified by their access to public education).

What about modern slavery?

In the last decade the public awareness of atrocities of modern slavery has finally gained traction. Even though I did not research the producers of the above video, I believe the 7 minute view is worthy of your time. Perhaps the economics of slavery can even explain recent political moves by countries such as Russia, China and India.


(excerpt from Chapter I)

IN order the better to understand the subject it is necessary here to introduce a few plain definitions. Slavery has two definitions–the direct and the indirect. The first of these is that it is the total deprivation of human rights; the other that it is the reducing of human beings to the condition of property, the same as other goods, wares, merchandise and chattels.

Either of these definitions will answer for the purpose of argument, though the latter is to be preferred, because it is the most familiar. There are a variety of other ways in which mankind hold control over each other, and sometimes unjustly and oppressively; but if the persons controlled be not held as property, they are not slaves.

A Right is defined to be, the privilege or liberty of being, doing, having or suffering something at our own pleasure and discretion without the interference, interruption or hindrance of others–and to this discretion neither the law of God, nor the common law, nor any other just law, sets any other bounds than that we so exercise our own rights as not to infringe the same rights in other human beings.

A Wrong is defined to be, any voluntary act which disturbs, interrupts, hinders, or destroys the free exercise of the rights of others–every such act being strictly forbidden by the law of God, and every other just law.

Right and Wrong are, therefore, the everlasting moral and political opposites and antagonists of each other. Mr. Weld, in his valuable “Bible Argument,” says, “ENSLAVING MEN IS REDUCING THEM TO ARTICLES OF PROPERTY — making free agents, chattels–converting persons into things–sinking immortality into merchandize.

slave is one held in this condition. In law, he owns nothing and can acquire nothing.” His right to himself is abrogated. If he says my hands, my body, my mind, MYself, they are figures of speech. To use himself for his own good is a crime. To keep what he earns is stealing. To take his body into his own keeping is insurrection.

In a word, the profit of his master is made the END of his being, and he a mere means to that end–a mere means to an end into which his interests do not enter– of which they constitute no portion. MAN sunk to a thing! The intrinsic element, the principle of slavery.

MEN, bartered, leased, mortgaged, bequeathed, invoiced, shipped in cargoes, stored as goods, taken on executions, and knocked off at public outcry! Their rights, another’s conveniences; their interests, wares on sale; their happiness, a household utensil; their personal inalienable ownership, a serviceable article or a plaything, as best suits the humor of the hour; their deathless nature, conscience, social affections, sympathies, hopes–marketable commodities!

We repeat it, “THE REDUCTION OF PERSONS TO THINGS!” Not robbing a man of privileges, but of himself; not loading him with burdens, but making him a beast of burden; not restraining liberty, but subverting it; not curtailing rights, but abolishing them; not inflicting personal cruelty, but annihilating personality; not exacting involuntary labor, but sinking man into an implement of labor; not abridging human comforts, but abrogating human nature; not depriving an animal of immunities, but despoiling a rational being of attributes, uncreating A MAN to make room for a thing!

That this is American slavery is shown by the laws of the slave states. Judge Stroud, in his “Sketch of the Laws relating to Slavery,” says, “The cardinal principle of slavery, that the slave is not to be ranked among sentient beings but among things, obtains as undoubted law in all of these (the slave) states.”

The law of South Carolina says, “Slaves shall be deemed, held, taken, reputed and adjudged in law to be chattels personal in the hands of their owners and possessors, and their executors, administrators, and assigns, TO ALL INTENTS, CONSTRUCTIONS, AND PURPOSES WHATSOEVER.”

In Louisiana, “A slave is one who is in the power of a master, to whom he belongs; the master may sell him, dispose of his person, his industry and his labor; he can do nothing, possess nothing, nor acquire anything but what belongs to his master. Civ. Code, Art. 35.”

Tried by these definitions, human slavery is one of the greatest wrongs existing in the world.

A Citizen of Virginia.


Abolitionists fought slavery in America through changing minds

In 1845, they used pamphlets, like this one written by “A Citizen of Virginia.”
Now the internet is the medium, but the goal is the same, to educate and motivate change.
Interestingly enough, authors in 1845 found it necessary to remain anonymous when advocating for change that would threaten the established power. And today we have the same dynamic as well-illustrated by the Q movement.
When I found this “condensed anti-slavery Bible argument” (of only 84 pages!) the reasoning was so fresh, I believe it bears repeating.
Note that the anonymous author starts with definitions (see above text in red), then launches into the main of his treatise. If you don’t have time to review the text, here is the sum-up: the treatment of PERSONS as THINGS is an affront and a crime.
I could not agree more.
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Let’s think about the applications to our own world… Do you know the types of businesses that are most likely to be using people as property in your town?
Would you know how to recognize it if it was in front of you? Would you know what you can do about it? Would it take a lot of courage to do it?
I look forward to your comments!
Think *3

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Twitter isn’t subtle at all. I’m on PDJT’s page and who does Twitter want me to follow? Hillary Clinton, Paul Ryan, and Ellen deGeneres. No thanks, Twitter!


LOL! Yeah. Ahem – not looking to hang out with criminals, personally!


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Is the garlic festival false flag to take the attention off of what is coming? The evildoers have to be reading Q at the very least, and have other info as well. Or maybe the Dem campaigns need a boost and they think they can use gun control to get people riled up. Or is it a warning to someone to back off?
I’m seeing so many reports about human trafficking lately. It’s staggering how widespread it is. And its tentacles spread to the blackmailing of judges, politicians, and others in power. I’m sure they REALLY would like to stop what is coming.
Mueller and impeachment are done. Leftists are getting desperate. But this seems like an odd time to me. Why choose an event on a relatively uneventful Sunday when there is nothing specific (like DECLAS) going on?


This is a sneaky one. This is a real incident, cleverly planned to make people think it’s a false flag, later to be proven to be a real incident, totally demoralizing all those who called it a false flag, but with a major hidden purpose of setting up the next false flag so that people will think it’s a real incident and not recognize it as a false flag.


Yeah, I need to look at this sucker. Nasty.

Sadie Slays

There’s a difference between “false flag” and “hoax.” A false flag can still be a “real incident” with real violence, injuries, and fatalities.

Sadie Slays

It was a bad week for Democrats in general.
1) Mueller’s disastrous performance puts an end to impeachment hopes for many.
2) Border wall victory.
3) The President’s Baltimore comments have moderate Democrats and the black community asking too many unwanted questions.
4) Epstein stuff in general.
Anons on the Q board began speculating right after the Mueller disaster that a false flag was right around the corner. Here we are again like clockwork. Democrats get to start off a brand new week’s news cycle with their go-to gun control arguments and hope that everyone forgets about Baltimore, Elijah Cummings, and Mueller’s testimony.


Good info. I don’t mean to be callous, but my impression is that the effects of these big incidents are lessening over time. Sadly, some people are becoming used to them, and others are “woke” enough to know something else is up.

Sadie Slays

666 days between the 10/1/17 Las Vegas attack and the Gilroy shooting.
There’s your answer on why it had to be today.


Very interesting.


I’ve been watching Right Side’s coverage of the shooting. One woman said she looked the shooter (or one shooter) in the eye, and another said the police told her one shooter was dead and another was on the loose. The witnesses are talking openly and posting their experiences to social media. I don’t know if that latter report is true, but my point is that people with that kind of inside knowledge of an event like this have been known to die under mysterious circumstances later. It all depends on the narrative “they” want the public to believe. Any eyewitness who saw something different is in grave danger, IMO, and I think it’s best to keep quiet.


This presser is so bad..he might as well have said..some people did something. No details confirmed. One shooter, maybe details on victims


Kiss goodnight, fellow Treepers.
Congrats to ThinkThinkThink for a terrific thread today.


I believe the President has launched a big “Bat Signal”, and it’s time for us to take a cue from the boss.
We’re going to fight for our cities.
Time for Dem corruption to end.

Big T

One of the writers at Power Line is Paul Mirrengoff. He and I have crossed swords repeatedly in the comments section as he is pathologically afflicted with TDS. Even when he is complimenting a Trump policy or accomplishment he still throws in some ad hominem drivel that is almost knee-jerk to the hard core NT Kristolite crowd. Giving the devil his due, nonetheless, when the medication is working and it is an off-Trump topic, here is quite helpful as in this analysis of what is in store for the next 15 months.