Dear KMAG: 20190728 Open Topic

 


This very special
Seeing the Slavery SUNDAY
open thread

is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody
to post whatever they feel they would like
to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the KAG!KMAG world.


Say what you want, comment on what other people said,
comment on people’s comments.
Keep it civil.  Treehouse rules, but expect lots of QAnon.


See the January 1st daily thread for the rules of the road,
which are few but important.


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Seeing the Slavery Sunday

Chains of Slavery to Sin

 

We know that our old sinful selves were crucified with Christ so that sin might lose its power in our lives. We are no longer slaves to sin. 

For when we died with Christ we were set free from the power of sin. 

And since we died with Christ, we know we will also live with him.

We are sure of this because Christ was raised from the dead, and he will never die again. Death no longer has any power over him. 

10 When he died, he died once to break the power of sin. But now that he lives, he lives for the glory of God. 

11 So you also should consider yourselves to be dead to the power of sin and alive to God through Christ Jesus.

12 Do not let sin control the way you live; do not give in to sinful desires. 

13 Do not let any part of your body become an instrument of evil to serve sin. Instead, give yourselves completely to God, for you were dead, but now you have new life. So use your whole body as an instrument to do what is right for the glory of God. 

14 Sin is no longer your master, for you no longer live under the requirements of the law. Instead, you live under the freedom of God’s grace.

15 Well then, since God’s grace has set us free from the law, does that mean we can go on sinning? Of course not! 

16 Don’t you realize that you become the slave of whatever you choose to obey? You can be a slave to sin, which leads to death, or you can choose to obey God, which leads to righteous living. 

17 Thank God! Once you were slaves of sin, but now you wholeheartedly obey this teaching we have given you. 

18 Now you are free from your slavery to sin, and you have become slaves to righteous living.

19 Because of the weakness of your human nature, I am using the illustration of slavery to help you understand all this. Previously, you let yourselves be slaves to impurity and lawlessness, which led ever deeper into sin. Now you must give yourselves to be slaves to righteous living so that you will become holy.

20 When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the obligation to do right. 

21 And what was the result? You are now ashamed of the things you used to do, things that end in eternal doom. 

2But now you are free from the power of sin and have become slaves of God. Now you do those things that lead to holiness and result in eternal life. 

23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 6:6-23

Okay, I get it.
Spiritually, we are slaves to whatever we choose to obey.

According to Jesus, “… if the Son sets you free, you shall be free indeed.” And that’s pretty good news. When we cry out to God for mercy, there is an exchange. We are “redeemed” from slavery and adopted as sons. This is the Gospel, good news.


Life Liberty and Property NCCS

Life, Liberty and Property

The founding fathers were pretty keen on throwing off the yoke of oppression they suffered at the hand of England to become free. And I believe that there was discussion about extending their emancipation to women and slaves.
Perhaps at the time they felt they could not raise the support for their efforts if they went that far. I don’t know. But in any case, full freedom for all people was not codified into American law until much later. And for the indigenous people, they were still being treated as “less than” into the 1940’s (at least as exemplified by their access to public education).


What about modern slavery?

In the last decade the public awareness of atrocities of modern slavery has finally gained traction. Even though I did not research the producers of the above video, I believe the 7 minute view is worthy of your time. Perhaps the economics of slavery can even explain recent political moves by countries such as Russia, China and India.


A CONDENSED 
ANTI-SLAVERY BIBLE ARGUMENT.

(excerpt from Chapter I)

IN order the better to understand the subject it is necessary here to introduce a few plain definitions. Slavery has two definitions–the direct and the indirect. The first of these is that it is the total deprivation of human rights; the other that it is the reducing of human beings to the condition of property, the same as other goods, wares, merchandise and chattels.

Either of these definitions will answer for the purpose of argument, though the latter is to be preferred, because it is the most familiar. There are a variety of other ways in which mankind hold control over each other, and sometimes unjustly and oppressively; but if the persons controlled be not held as property, they are not slaves.

A Right is defined to be, the privilege or liberty of being, doing, having or suffering something at our own pleasure and discretion without the interference, interruption or hindrance of others–and to this discretion neither the law of God, nor the common law, nor any other just law, sets any other bounds than that we so exercise our own rights as not to infringe the same rights in other human beings.

A Wrong is defined to be, any voluntary act which disturbs, interrupts, hinders, or destroys the free exercise of the rights of others–every such act being strictly forbidden by the law of God, and every other just law.

Right and Wrong are, therefore, the everlasting moral and political opposites and antagonists of each other. Mr. Weld, in his valuable “Bible Argument,” says, “ENSLAVING MEN IS REDUCING THEM TO ARTICLES OF PROPERTY — making free agents, chattels–converting persons into things–sinking immortality into merchandize.

slave is one held in this condition. In law, he owns nothing and can acquire nothing.” His right to himself is abrogated. If he says my hands, my body, my mind, MYself, they are figures of speech. To use himself for his own good is a crime. To keep what he earns is stealing. To take his body into his own keeping is insurrection.

In a word, the profit of his master is made the END of his being, and he a mere means to that end–a mere means to an end into which his interests do not enter– of which they constitute no portion. MAN sunk to a thing! The intrinsic element, the principle of slavery.

MEN, bartered, leased, mortgaged, bequeathed, invoiced, shipped in cargoes, stored as goods, taken on executions, and knocked off at public outcry! Their rights, another’s conveniences; their interests, wares on sale; their happiness, a household utensil; their personal inalienable ownership, a serviceable article or a plaything, as best suits the humor of the hour; their deathless nature, conscience, social affections, sympathies, hopes–marketable commodities!

We repeat it, “THE REDUCTION OF PERSONS TO THINGS!” Not robbing a man of privileges, but of himself; not loading him with burdens, but making him a beast of burden; not restraining liberty, but subverting it; not curtailing rights, but abolishing them; not inflicting personal cruelty, but annihilating personality; not exacting involuntary labor, but sinking man into an implement of labor; not abridging human comforts, but abrogating human nature; not depriving an animal of immunities, but despoiling a rational being of attributes, uncreating A MAN to make room for a thing!

That this is American slavery is shown by the laws of the slave states. Judge Stroud, in his “Sketch of the Laws relating to Slavery,” says, “The cardinal principle of slavery, that the slave is not to be ranked among sentient beings but among things, obtains as undoubted law in all of these (the slave) states.”

The law of South Carolina says, “Slaves shall be deemed, held, taken, reputed and adjudged in law to be chattels personal in the hands of their owners and possessors, and their executors, administrators, and assigns, TO ALL INTENTS, CONSTRUCTIONS, AND PURPOSES WHATSOEVER.”

In Louisiana, “A slave is one who is in the power of a master, to whom he belongs; the master may sell him, dispose of his person, his industry and his labor; he can do nothing, possess nothing, nor acquire anything but what belongs to his master. Civ. Code, Art. 35.”

Tried by these definitions, human slavery is one of the greatest wrongs existing in the world.

A Citizen of Virginia.


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Abolitionists fought slavery in America through changing minds

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In 1845, they used pamphlets, like this one written by “A Citizen of Virginia.”
Now the internet is the medium, but the goal is the same, to educate and motivate change.
Interestingly enough, authors in 1845 found it necessary to remain anonymous when advocating for change that would threaten the established power. And today we have the same dynamic as well-illustrated by the Q movement.
When I found this “condensed anti-slavery Bible argument” (of only 84 pages!) the reasoning was so fresh, I believe it bears repeating.
Note that the anonymous author starts with definitions (see above text in red), then launches into the main of his treatise. If you don’t have time to review the text, here is the sum-up: the treatment of PERSONS as THINGS is an affront and a crime.
I could not agree more.
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Let’s think about the applications to our own world… Do you know the types of businesses that are most likely to be using people as property in your town?
Would you know how to recognize it if it was in front of you? Would you know what you can do about it? Would it take a lot of courage to do it?
I look forward to your comments!
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GA/FL

Sad that we don’t or can’t trust the Feds in this situation and many others. We have learned not to trust them.

GA/FL

So beautiful….The Heavens Declare The Glory of The LORD!!!

GA/FL

Good morning, T3!
Your Sunday posts are always great and help us refocus toward GOD and His Truth – and that’s what Sunday is for.
I plopped down my first comments before seeing your very timely and thought-provoking Sunday Topic – and only one of the comments touched on it.
Now, I’m going to re-read and think, think, think before commenting again!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Personally, I think Jeffrey Epstein is the CLASSIC modern slaver. Throwing his mug up in any discussion of slavery per se or the slavery of sin is highly relevant.
JUST MY OPINION. 😎
Even more to the point, it seems to me that there are many in his “celebrity” world who, like Jay-z and Beyonce, have snuck into the camp of Satanists and Luciferians through the DOOR of “occult”. They are LURED to a new master by the FAKE FREEDOM of “Do what thou wilt” To my thinking, that line is merely papers to a NEW MASTER. Sin is that master’s money, and soon one will be in debt and then servitude.
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112998783
https://archive.fo/jKNCs

MAGA Mom

Just gorgeous!

kea

Great opening post. Worth the wait! 🙂

Concerned Virginian

If I’m understanding the legalspeak in the court document, it appears to me that the Feds went to a judge to ask him to keep certain items away from Epstein’s lawyers because of ongoing investigations and the judge agreed. Am I missing something?

GA/FL

Judge Berman is seemingly trying to protect the victims whose nude/partially nude photos, etc. are contained in evidence. Likely trying to stop leaks to the press, marketing of materials, threats to victims, etc…all kinds of dastardly deeds by depraved people.
This is interesting from the ABC article – Epstein was not the only one who got immunity in 2008 – other co-conspirators, including 4 females also got immunity.
“When Epstein secured a non-prosecution agreement with federal prosecutors in southern Florida in 2008 over a previous investigation, the much-criticized deal also immunized any and all potential co-conspirators, known or unknown, and also included the names of four women who had been suspected by authorities of having facilitated or participated in alleged crimes against children.”

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OMG – this explains the suspicions of Obama’s SECRET PARDON ABUSE. That line about immunization of any and all potential co-conspirators, known and unknown – that is just SICK.
The way these criminals ABUSED THE LAW us just sick.

GA/FL

So, Cummings is under investigation? Couldn’t happen to a more deserving so-and-so.

Concerned Virginian

And the reply tweet from RASHIDA TLAIB begins, “Yo Trump…” and spirals down from there.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Rashida Tlaib is certainly starting to fit the monicker WHORE OF BABYLON rather nicely.

rf121

That is being unkind to whore’s. They at least provide a useful service.

Plain Jane

DH went to Baltimore once for business. He was to fly home that night. It was winter, so I made him stuff a pair of clean underwear and socks into his hard sided briefcase. He wound up having to overnight in a high end hotel.
When he got home he opened his brief case to remove his used underwear and socks.
I glanced down on the floor and there was a big fat European live cockroach high up on his legs. Through the years of travel, the only other times I encountered one was at a high end hotel in Chicago and in Las Vegas.

ladypenquin

ladypenquin

Morning, TTT. I’ll be back later to read your great spiritual message, but just wanted to stop by early and leave POTUS’ words, and note the great can of worms the Dems themselves have opened up – all by themselves. They’ve stepped right into a trap – now everyone is looking at Baltimore and they can’t hide the truth.

pgroup

Once having looked, you can’t unsee. For example, the thought of Baltimore’s condition and Cummings’ stewardship become overlaid. Almost like a marriage, except this one’s a marriage from hell.

Teagan

I think he will go after the Committee chairmen that garner a lot of (self created) media attention….Cummings, Schiff, Warner, Maxine Waters, etc. In reality, they are all corrupt and probably can easy be proven so. That actually (should) neutralize them. Will be interesting to see if he takes it easy on Feinstein and Pelosi, who are both equally corrupt.
As with the forthcoming indictments, if a couple are publicly disgraced, dirty laundry exposed, even forced to resign……that will send a terrifying message to others….at least hopefully.
Off topic, but I think we should all start referring to Pelosi as the “current occupant of the House Speaker’s Chair” as she refer to POTUS. TIT FOR TAT, Nancy! See how you like it!

Alison

Nope! He already is going after San Fran Nancy’s deteriorating ‘streets of San Francisco’ in today’s tweets. This is a brilliant strategy. Brilliant!
Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t Nancy’s political heritage … Baltimore? Isn’t that where her Father was The Boss of Baltimore?

Alison

Teagan I like your suggestion about Nancy being called “current occupant”. I also look firward to the day we call her “former”.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

YES – both the CUMMINGS position AND the Mayor “Room To Destroy” position.
MOB-connected, too.comment image
Note that all his MOB stuff has been SCRUBBED from his Wikipedia article.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_D'Alesandro_Jr.

Linda K Harrison

If you search for thomas d’alesandro jr corruption – a whole lot of pages come up.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes. MANY links!
Here is a good one. NOTE the following observation, that I just realized.
Pelosi is being tied here to the Gambino family. The guy who the “QAnon MK Job” killed was a GAMBINO boss. I’m thinking maybe he was a RISK.
http://www.capoliticalreview.com/capoliticalnewsandviews/san-fran-nan-learned-to-be-a-bully-by-corrupt-father-mafia-dons-and-assorted-criminals/
Archived:
https://archive.fo/nDV91

Covadonga

I don’t recall if I mentioned this, but remember a couple of weeks ago, when Trump first started in on the Four Horse’s Asses?
Occasional Cortex had been very aggressive against Nasty Nan, and that was what the news was all about. This was before Nasty had to start defending them from Trump, and well before she capitulated to them. At this point in time, she still had some dignity left, and was calling the 4 out.
I remember POTUS speaking with reporters outside somewhere. He appeared to defend Pelosi, for once, saying that AOC had to show “respect” for her. Then he repeated it, laying emphasis on the word “respect”.
As soon as he said the word the 1st time, the way he pronounced it, and stressed it, the Godfather image flashed to mind. As soon as he said it again, I was certain he was invoking the Godfather.
Then it hit me, Nan is originally from Baltimore, and there are those rumors. He was hitting AOC, but the Trump boomerang was then bouncing off her, and crashing into Pelosi, bringing with it her family’s Mafia reputation, to stain her with now.
Respect. Ya gotta have it.
Hopefully, after stepping down from his 2nd term, his next project will be offering a master class in trolling to his fellow MAGA Republican leaders.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LMAO! OMG – I am sure that you are right. MASTER TROLL! Hilarious! Mobby Dearest!

Valerie Curren

Like Hillary & her family/father had connections to The Mob in the Windy City…

ladypenquin

Yes, indeed. Expected POTUS to make sure to include “Current Occupant of the House Speaker’s Chair” – now the Dems have a problem, as it isn’t a person of color whose district he is calling out.

GA/FL

The Bedrock Truth from our President:

….and I’m sure you can add the Chinese and the Drug and Human Trafficking (child and adult slavery) Cartels into the Democrat collusion equation.

Rodney Short

The time to dance has come I fear, wonder what song the dems are gonna pick to dance to?

Dora
kalbokalbs

President Trump retweeting crazy Bernie words on Baltimore will surely spin the D-Rats into orbit.
Life is great with a President that says the unvarnished truth.

Teagan

Reading hat Obama also used “infested” regarding deplorable conditions in the ghettos. Would dearly love for the two men’s quotes be read to teary-eyed Victor and see how he can worm out of that one.
BTW, why doesn’t Victor and anyone else attached to Baltimore use their influence to organize some community clean up projects, provide the trash bags and dumpsters, get some rodent control treatments going, have a cookout to create community pride, etc. guess it’s far easier to whine about POTUS calling the conditions out for awareness.

rayzorbak

I see God on his THRONE… Overseeing EVERYTHING in that image…….
NOTHING happens by CHANCE 🙂

Dora

He has gotten away with it. At least so far.
https://twitter.com/cjtruth/status/1155220098212347906

Cuppa Covfefe

Here are three links about that (I owe someone a H/T but I can’t remember who, sorry, it was on another thread a week or so ago). Bathhouse Barry is even a fake black. He’s an Indonesian. Which means by birth, and Sharia law, he is automatically a Moslem. And faces their penalties should he choose to renounce that.
http://www.thenationalpatriot.com/2014/01/the-real-obama-an-indonesian-muslim-socialist-puppet/
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/02/barack_hussein_soebarkah_in_two_places_at_the_same_time.html
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/01/barack_hussein_soebarkah.html
Here’s a comparison pic:
Subud:
http://tnp.thenationalpatriot.com/subud%209c1.jpg
or
Obama:
http://tnp.thenationalpatriot.com/subud%207.jpg
Pretty obvious that Obama is not his father…

Cuppa Covfefe

Actually about a year ago, maybe OT… still, I think calling him a Kenyan is itself a coverup… lotta layers to this one, but that’s how they play…

Teagan

I would try to get that very obvious side by side with Sorbarkah out as widely as possible, especially once the “real” investigation of Barry starts, to pill-pill the public that haven’t seen them.
I’ll be watching to see if our black African American citizens will continue to support him merely because he’s black-skin or be pissed that he lied to them. Any bets?
That’s why, IMO, a lot of this deep state exposure goes so slowly..red pilling the uninformed gradually. Look at what’s starting to happen in Baltimore!

Covadonga

“I’ll be watching to see if our black African American citizens will continue to support him merely because he’s black-skin or be pissed that he lied to them.”
Ah, if Subud was the biological father, and the mother was some Indonesian Muslim woman in the Subud cult, that’s the beauty of saying the Communist and alleged CIA asset Dunham was his mother.
Dunham being white explains how a Kenyan Marxist who is completely African can have a kid with brown skin as light as Barry’s — it’s looking more like both Barry’s biological parents were Indonesian Muslim Southeast Asians with brown skins.
Actually, I’m very uncomfortable discussing skin color like this. People who aren’t racist always are.
But it’s impossible to peel back the multiple layers of Clown/Communist/Islamic/Deep State deception involved in the Soebarkah->Oval Office scheme without going over color in detail — that’s a big part of the power of this con: nice people don’t talk like this and, hence, can’t explain what the lie is to others, once they start to grasp it themselves.
In a way, it’s a variation on the trick of pedophiles going to an orgy dressed in Satan costumes. If any kids eventually get free and talk, they say how devils did various things to them, and so no one believes them, because it sounds too crazy.
With the old “Soebarkah is a 100% Asian who is falsely said to be 50% East African and 50% white American” routine, the problem is that it sounds too racist to talk about it, rather than being too crazy.

Covadonga

Anthropologists have discovered, btw, that if an initial homogeneous ethnic group is split into 2 subgroups, with one subgroup being polygamous (i.e. Muslims) and one subgroup being monogamous (i.e. most non-Muslims), after a number of generations, the polygamists will come to have darker skins on average than the monogamists.
This is despite the ancestral group being all the same average color. The specialists don’t know why yet, but it’s an empirical fact.
Indonesians have been mostly Muslim at least since Dutch colonial times.
This effect, plus the fact that Southeast Asians, even the monogamous ones, live closer to the equator, and therefore tend to be somewhat darker than Northeast Asians (e.g. Chinese, Koreans, Japanese, etc.) explain how Barry could be 100% Asian yet fool gullible Americans (i.e. us) into thinking he’s African American.

andyocoregon

Like so many black men, Obama has no idea who his real father was.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

He’s an Indonesian. Which means by birth, and Sharia law, he is automatically a Moslem.

That is an invalid argument, because Indonesia is not completely Islamic. The island of Bali is predominantly Hindu, and the island of Flores is predominantly Roman Catholic. Other places are largely animistic. Being Indonesian does not automatically make one a Muslim.
Now it is true that under Islamic law, if your father is Muslim, then so are you…but you don’t get that from “He’s an Indonesian” necessarily. You basically have to show that his father was Muslim to make your point. (That should be easy to do, once you figure out just who that person is.)

Cuppa Covfefe

Subud IS a Moslem, and a cult leader, at that. Look him up (there’s info on him in the articles I linked. Indonesia also has the largest Moselm population of any country (also documented). Nonetheless, Moslems are 87.2 percent of the population.
Add to that Ø’s many statements about Mohammedanism, and there’s no question.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

True…but not, as I said, because his father was Indonesian. It was because his father was Muslim.

Covadonga

And Manado, the northern peninsula of Sulawesi (appears under its Dutch name of Celebes on maps in most books of WWII history) is predominantly Protestant.
But Cuppa was speaking generally here, from knowledge that Subud, Soebarkah’s alleged biological father, was part of the overwhelmingly large Muslim majority found in most parts of Indonesia, even while being the leader of his own peculiar cult within Islam.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Sure. I just didn’t like Indonesian, therefore Muslim, because that’s simply not true when you look at a specific individual.
He made his case by another route though, so he’s not wrong.

GA/FL

Subuh Soebarkah did not have kinky hair.
Here is Frank Marshall Davis:comment image
And here is yet another potential babydaddy:
http://www.constantinereport.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/malcolm-x.jpg

Cuppa Covfefe

No, look at the lips and nose. Subud’s face is all but identical.

GA/FL

But where did the kinky hair come from?

Teagan

Remember Amy Carter daughter and Chelsea Clinton hair? Almost uncontrollably curly, kinky…looking at the parents, where did it come from?
I get your point, but IMO the photo of the Indonesian man is unmistakable.
Andy’s point is a good one…Barry could have been lied to for years about his parentage (not the most stable family), but that’s what DNA tests are about, if the necessary elements are available.

GA/FL

You make good points. All three, Malcolm X, FMD, and Soebarkah resemble Ø a great deal. I bet both the President and the Mossad know who the real biological father was.

GA/FL

But – there is a difference between curly and kinky African hair….the tiny less than 1/4 inch twists and bends which Ø has.

Covadonga

Many Southeast Asians, especially islanders, have kinky hair, easily mistakeable for Black African hair. Even some southern Chinese (e.g. pre-WWII Taiwanese) have it.
And the kinky hair can run in families, yet still miss some individuals in the family. Or Subud could have straightened his hair, for esthetic reasons, or to appear as a member of a higher social class.

Valerie Curren

FMD is an ideological father if not actually a biological one. I believe Jack Cashill did some investigating about “BHO”‘s relationship to FMD via literary analysis of one of “Barry”‘s poems & also uncovered photographic & documentary evidence of Anne Dunham’s possible sexual abuse by FMD & his (then?) wife…Wherever one looks into Barry’s background & bio darkness predominates! Didn’t he even have some type of a “tranny nanny” in Indonesia? Then the Chicago Bathhouse scene, Larry Sinclair, his “church” filled w/ black liberation theology & a “pastor” (Rev Wright? GD America, chickens coming home to roost, etc) that set up sham marriages for gay parishioners to pass as heterosexual…the Harrison Bounell identity, real estate “irregularities”…it goes on & on in the aka Obama bizzaro-world…
Wouldn’t it be amazing if Aubergine applied her genealogical sleuthing skills to this mystery!!!

GA/FL

Got to have DNA when dealing with AA community due to irregularity of procreation and parenting.

Valerie Curren

Would Love to see what “BHO”‘s DNA cousins, like on Ancestry.com DNA pages, would reveal!

Concerned Virginian

http://www.barstandardsboard.org.uk/
20 September 2018
MICHAEL SHRIMPTON was ordered to be disbarred from the practice of law in England on 20 September 2018, due to being convicted of two charges brought against him by the Bar Standards Board. He had already been suspended from practicing law since November 2014 upon his conviction based on the charges and the serving of jail time.
In addition, SHRIMPTON was in 2014 convicted of an offense against the British Protection of Children Act.

churchmouse

Full version on YouTube:

I know this was put on YT in 2014, I think Mr Shrimpton gave this interview in 2008. He mentions McCain and Hillary. Once you get to the 4:00 point, a load of people knew about it, or so Mr Shrimpton claims: the Clintons, Rudy Giuliani, McCain, British intelligence, Kenyan intelligence and The Daily Telegraph.
It is interesting that so many of us have not seen this video before now. I had no idea it existed.

Valerie Curren

Here is a longer version (still partially cut) of that interview apparently from the 2008 Campaign while Rudy & Hillary were both still in the running…lots of food for thought!
https://twitter.com/cjtruth/status/1155255600403664897

wheatietoo

Welcome, Valerie!
I am glad to see you join us. 😀

Valerie Curren

Thanks Wheatie! Blessings!!!

grandmaintexas

Deeply thoughtful post, TTT. Thank you.
I hate to say it, but there is evidence to suggest that CPS may be a part of child trafficking these days.
I can believe that because of the things we see reported in the news. I know of a situation where the youngest child of a poor family was removed from his home by the authorities and quickly adopted out to a wealthy childless couple in the same town. This was many years ago.
CPS has immense power over families. Corrupting just a few key people in any local CPS could be catastrophic for very vulnerable children. Twitter is always abuzz with such stories. Below is a more legalistic explanation of the coercive powers of CPS.
https://www.cato-unbound.org/2018/11/09/diane-redleaf/when-child-protective-services-system-gets-child-removal-wrong
http://justicewomen.com/tips_bewarechildprotectiveservices.html

GA/FL

Where leftists are involved, there are usually skewed values and morals. Goes along with approving/condoning abortion and LBGTQXYZ. See Romans 1:18-32 and the opening verses of Romans 2.

crossthread42

Speaking from personal experience here.. I CAN SAY, with 100% certainty, that I Man, I KNOW..
Is..
LBGT (Gay)..
Married to another Man, (I think though NEVER seen “HIM” in 8 years)
Has *adopted* 2 Male kids, Now left with One, that is Now, very obliviously Gay..
Has had extensive “conversations” on Social Media with “other” LBGT like minded Folks, writing/Talking about recruiting Kids to become GAY..
He is involved with Charter School(s)..
Is involved with a gay pron film director..
I’d LOVE To take this Mother-Trucker DOWN!

grandmaintexas

I have a similar story, the details of which are so unique that it would ID the individuals immediately. Suffice it to say, said individuals hold gov’t positions and are on the board of a child protection group.

rayzorbak

Linda Collins….. Arkansas congressman was on this trail…
Before she was MURDERED…..
Hmmmm

grandmaintexas

They arrested a woman who had worked closely with her. Not sure of the motive.

rayzorbak

I am aware of that…..still seems fishy to me.
Didn’t Susan McDougal go to prison instead of turning on the Clintons?
The Clintons are EVIL!
And will do ANYTHING.

grandmaintexas

I agree. It is very fishy. We simply have to question everything now.
God, please let the truth come out! Amen.

thetinfoilhatsociety

https://medicalkidnap.com/2016/03/02/medical-kidnapping-a-threat-to-every-child-in-america-today/ This website will curl your hair. And most of it is happening right here in Arizona.
I had a run in with CPS. It’s utterly terrifying. They don’t need a warrant, because if you refuse to let them see the children and search your house, they will get an order to remove the kids based on immediate threat to life and health. And you won’t see them for a minimum of 6 months if they do that. Back story: my middle son, being the literalist and tester he is, didn’t believe me that the iron was hot and not to touch it. So he did. He burned his hand and it ended up getting infected. Off to the ER (no PCP at that time). ER doc reported us to CPS because he didn’t believe the story (even though the 5 year old corroborated the 3 year old’s story away from me). He told me, and CPS, that I burned him with a curling iron. Why would I only burn the finger tips and not the whole hand I asked him?
Needless to say I am not a fan. They have ALL the power and you as a parent have none. And that was in the late 80’s. It is much worse now. I’m glad the whole anti-vaccination demonizing wasn’t a thing then; my oldest is vaccine injured so we stopped vaccinating until each child was ready for school, and caught them up on a delayed schedule. That, I’m sure, would be grounds for removal today.

grandmaintexas

How horrible for you and your children. Thank you for the website.

Valerie Curren

So sorry for your difficult experiences…
” I’m glad the whole anti-vaccination demonizing wasn’t a thing then; my oldest is vaccine injured so we stopped vaccinating until each child was ready for school, and caught them up on a delayed schedule. That, I’m sure, would be grounds for removal today.”
One of my twins has autism & it appeared to begin sometime after birth & before pre-school. We were never sure if vaccines were an issue or not but I stopped getting nearly all vaccines for the 4 kids because of the one kid’s autism, etc., for quite a few years. We had to sign waivers to get them in school & boy did I endure some High Pressure to vaccinate from one of their pediatricians.
My special needs son has a primary doctor with a practice dedicated to medically complex kids & also specializes in autism issues. She has admitted that she believes that vaccination Can be a factor especially for neurologically fragile kids, especially when they are very young & so many of those toxic substances/diseases are introduced into their already overloaded systems. (Seems at a minimum that protocols on vaccination should be revisited especially for premature & medically fragile kids!)
When our special son ended up needing a Liver Transplant we followed the LT protocols regarding vaccines for him & the other siblings (they were all teenagers at this point). This caught everyone up on most of the recommended vaccines, though much later than the standard course. Some were never to be received because of the risk to a transplant recipient to receive or live with people having received those vaccines (I don’t remember which ones those were).
Nowadays they usually recommend that our special son receives a Flu Vaccine yearly & we usually comply. It’s very rare that any of us get the flu regardless & no one else has had that vaccine except my husband one year only–a year he got pretty sick with the flu if memory serves…
I’ve heard about studies of large populations comparing similarly aged/sexed pediatric populations from urban/suburban/rural populations & those who don’t vaccinate, like Amish &/or Mennonite. Apparently the rates of typical childhood illnesses were basically the same between the two groups but the difference in autism was Very Significant with those unvaccinated having a much lower incidence…
I think the CDC literature may list vaccine reaction risk & this could imply the chance of developing “autism” or other neurological atypicalities. The rates of these risks might be acceptable to public health bureaucrats but not for those of us who have to watch so much of a person slip into the ether when autism-like features arise. If autism is partially a preventable condition then taking reasonable preventative measures seems entirely appropriate. On the other hand, every child is a Gift from God & even those with significant disabilities can be a tremendous blessing to a family, church, school, & community…

thetinfoilhatsociety

My son functions very well – he’s married, has a great job, owns a home, etc. He just processes….differently. It’s always been noticeable. I’m thankful to this day that his issues aren’t worse than this. And I’m thankful his wife is not only aware but incredibly supportive of him and the differences.

Valerie Curren

What a blessing that your son is doing so well & has such a loving & helpful wife! Just curious, how did you “know” that he had experienced a vaccine injury?
We have photos of our son as an infant where he was clearly engaged & making eye contact, something that slipped away from him as the years went by. His issues were compounded by bodily structural issues that meant that his blood circulated throughout his body Before being filtered by an extremely atypical liver. This caused toxins to build up throughout his system, including his brain, & some of that excess toxicity seemed to contribute to some of his autistic issues…he’s always been Very Complicated so we’re not sure of the genesis of a number of his challenges…

thetinfoilhatsociety

He was talking until his 12 month shots then he had a 105 degree temp and seizures after the DPT and was very slow to recover. From that point on we all knew something had happened but no one was quite sure what. My mother was a special education teacher and had an influx of kids with autism. In speaking with parents they all seemed to have a similar story, similar to what happened with my son. She called me when it was time to get his 18 month vaccinations and said she had done a lot of research and she was pretty sure he had a vaccine reaction, and asked me not to give him any more until he was ready for school. So we didn’t. When I started researching this it was years later. I had never heard of methylation defects in the liver nor in mutations that cause this. Well as it turns out I have two copies of two genes that cause this, which is correlated with thing like medication reactions, vitamin deficiencies, eczema and allergies, and more. As a family we have terrible food allergies, eczema, and I am pretty sure all my kids have at least one, if not two copies of these.

Valerie Curren

Thank you for sharing this part of your story. I’m guessing that you have had genetic testing to know about the gene copies. My son has been presumed to have a “genetic defect” but all testing has been negative. Sometimes we just have to accept that many aspects of his life & challenges remain unsolved mysteries. Blessings!

thetinfoilhatsociety

I’m glad your son was able to get a liver transplant but I’m sorry you have to go through all of this. It was hard with mild issues, you have clearly been given greater challenges. May your son and you have healing from compassionate hands, and blessings.

Valerie Curren

Oh thanks for that lovely sentiment. Today’s the 6th anniversary of his transplant & he’s doing pretty well overall so we are thankful. It has been a pretty challenging journey though… 🙂

Dora
GA/FL

My guess – they are ‘community organizing’* – because Salvini is resisting ‘the migration’ that the globalists/one world government are trying to foist on all nations!!!
*Community Organizing:
– stirring up trouble and smears against Salvini
– funding antifa-type protests against Salvini
– funding political opposition and even assassins to hit Salvini
Øbastard specializes in stirring up trouble and violence for Commun-Islam-o-fascism.
McCain also did a lot of community organizing before he was taken out. Everywhere he went erupted into death and devastation.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/09/28/the-emerging-connections-between-the-muslim-brotherhood-and-never-trump/
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/01/25/epic-tulsi-gabbard-calls-adam-kinzinger-john-mccain-and-evan-mcmullin-terrorist-enablers/
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/12/30/senator-john-mccain-demands-act-of-war-against-russia/
No doubt McMullin and Romney are carrying on where they can.

Deplorable Patriot

And in the picture they are standing in front of the Lion, which is the symbol of the Gospel According to St. Mark, not just the moniker we’ve laid on VSGPDJT.

daughnworks247

Unreal.
My avatar is a pic of me in Portofino, late July-August. It’s the best time to be in Italy. She’s there on MY DIME?

pgroup

Anybody wanna bet against these multi-millionaires sticking us with the bill instead of paying their own way?
[crickets]
I didn’t think so.
Side note: this time, did they fly on private leased planes so DJT couldn’t stop them?

Teagan

That’s why they stop at a military base, to make it “official” so we pay for it.

rayzorbak

I see the Rodeo Clown from Florida…. Diaper headed shit for brains Omar….. and maybe even “Guam will capsize” Hank Johnson in this pick?

Concerned Virginian

And what looks like PRESSLEY and TLAIB in the back row?

Cuppa Covfefe

They’re probably there arranging “pizza” deliveries…

Cuppa Covfefe

Hmmm. Could’ve said they’re probably there arranging their “pizza” deliveries… 🙂

Concerned Virginian

These people are in Italy — on OUR DIME —for ONE REAL reason only, no matter WHAT the “official” reason is:
To undermine, by ANY MEANS possible, the nascent efforts of SALVINI to re-establish the sovereignty and Rule of Law in Italy.

singingsoul1

Seeing our political despots in Italy I ask myself why do we have diplomates.?
Maybe we need to do away with Pampeo and our diplomates if Ms Pelosi sees fit to take her team to do diplomacy maybe spitting in President Trump’s soup by doing so? What other reason is there?
This really urges me to no end. People in our country work hard specially young people with family to keep it together and here are the tax payer squanderers going on vacation on our tax dime.
We need to be more vocal and not so laid back to put a stop to this rubbish.
I am not happy about it.

GA/FL

MODERN DAY SLAVERY MAPS
Here is the one in the video above:comment image
Here is another one that is even more chilling – showing more slavery in our hemisphere:comment image
This one implicates India as the most slavery prone nation:comment image
There are many more slavery maps at Duck Duck Go searching ‘Modern Day Slavery’

GA/FL

I posted the maps so our WQTH Twitter Warriors could post them whenever and wherever REPARATIONS™ are mention online.

daughnworks247

Great idea GA/FL.

pgroup

ATTENTION! Links need to be in sidebar.

Eilert

There are large numbers of modern slaves around the world, but the methodology how these numbers are derived, at is often very dubious.
These numbers are often really only propaganda statistics put out by leftist, in cahoots with International NGO’s under their control, to create a narrative which supports their agenda. (see – ‘Climate Change’)
eg the number of slaves in India is 18.4 million above. This is a figure from 2016. The figure for 2018 is now 8.2 million.
That is a difference of a whopping 10 million, because a change in methodology, as in this article:
https://www.oneindia.com/international/global-slavery-index-indias-slave-count-went-down-by-10-3-million-in-2-years-2738875.html

GA/FL

You are right, of course. Statistics can be stacked to say whatever you or your organization, nation or group want them to say. Even ‘scientific’ studies are often manipulated for the sponsors’ sake.

andyocoregon

A couple of the entrants in the Orange County Fair RV Demo Derby seem to be against slavery. Skip to the 2:25 minute mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btFoZEgRdnQ

Teagan

Who would pay $$$ and sit in the hot Southern Ca sun to watch this??

andyocoregon

People who live there and are acclimated to hot summer days and enjoy destruction derbies.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

People used to the hot southern CA sun.
And on that note, I have to go out into the hot High Plains sun now.

Valerie Curren

High Plains Drifter, hmm? 🙂

duchess01

Verse of the Day

“For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.”
Proverbs 2:6 (KJV)

duchess01

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duchess01

Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered!

duchess01

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andyocoregon

Oh Lord!

bakocarl

Come Unto Me
It’s been so since the time in the Garden;
Man always sins, and expects God to pardon.
“I’m good enough, good enough to get by.”
That’s satan talking, the father of lies.
“Sometimes you’re up and sometimes you’re down,
And sometimes you’re almost down to the ground.”
That old song tells of the burden of sin.
Troubles and trials weigh heavy within.
“Would you be free from your burden of sin?
Would you o’er evil a victory win?”
A grand old hymn, could be talking of me,
Convicted by sin, longing to be free.
Come like a child, with simple faith and trust,
Come just as you are, but come you must.
Just knock on His door, He waits within
To take from you your burden of sin.
At your first knock, the door opens wide,
And then you see Jesus, waiting inside.
“Come unto Me, you weary needing rest.
Come unto Me, My children, My blessed.”
“My yoke is easy, My burden is light.
Come from the darkness, into My light.
Come, learn from Me, come rest your soul,
I’ll take your sins, and then make you whole.”
All you must do is to truly believe
In Christ, our Savior and then you’ll receive
As a Seal from God, His Presence inside,
God’s Holy Spirit, Who teaches and guides.
And then, one day, you’ll see a new dawn;
No sadness, no sorrow, all pain now gone,
Days full of blessings, and joy and peace,
Eternal wonders that never will cease.

nikkichico7

Amen, beautiful Carl … thank you 🙂🤚❤️
…. you’re a blessing and God bless you abundantly

duchess01

Beautiful, carl! A reminder for all of us – is sin worth being separated from God even for just a minute? I think not!
God Bless You today and always!

Valerie Curren

I recently re-heard this song on ClassicChristian247.com it seems to fit with your moving poem & is also an anointed piece of music, imo–Blessings! I hope it posts…
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Valerie Curren

I ended up adding the Wayne Watson song above to a post I’d done previously that dives pretty deeply into sacrifice…here’s a taste followed by a link to that work:
“Abel’s story & the meaning of his life & death reminds us that the present sufferings are not worthy to be compared with the glory that will be revealed. His blood still cries out to the Lord & his life of faith is still speaking today, per Hebrews 11, if only we have eyes to see, ears to hear, & hearts to understand!”
https://specialconnections.wordpress.com/2018/09/02/abel-true-father-of-faith/

Dora

duchess01

Jesus Loves Babies…Pray for the Unborncomment image
Jesus Loves the Little Children…Pray for the Little Children
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Jesus Loves You…Run to Himcomment image

GA/FL
duchess01

Cortex is Bronx – Nadler covers a wide variety…NY’s 10th District – not sure exactly where this happened.
New York’s 10th Congressional District includes parts of Manhattan’s Upper West Side, Hell’s Kitchen, Chelsea, SoHo, Greenwich Village, TriBeCa, the Financial District and Battery Park City. In Brooklyn, the 10th District includes parts of Borough Park, Kensington, Red Hook, Sunset Park, Bensonhurst, Dyker Heights and Gravesend.

ladypenquin

Cortez also covers some of Queens – it’s why they were unhappy with her – she ended the Amazon deal.

duchess01

Oh, right, lady – forgot about that – the district markers are so skewed imho – but, you know the Dims are always monkeying with stuff like that to give them the edge.

ladypenquin

I know in particular because my daughter lives in Queens, and what deBlasio has done to NYC is criminal. But that’s just part of what the Dems do overall. Ruin everything they touch. These days it seems like they’re made up of the dregs of society – have lost all sense of decency or honesty.

duchess01

They do not care about their constituents – odd how the largest slums are in cities represented by Dims – makes me ill – how can people live in those places – it is just inhumane – all of them are rich – the people are poorer than poor – I get the feeling PT is going after these slum lords – big time – I cannot wait!

ladypenquin

That’s exactly what POTUS should start calling these Dems who come from these hellholes. They are essentially slumlords – bringing millions/billions of taxpayer dollars to their Districts, but the money goes into the powerbrokers’ pockets.
It’s what happened in New Orleans. They’d received millions to repair/reinforce the levees – and it was never done. So New Orleans flooded.

duchess01

Agree – call them what they are slumlords!
I did not know the levees had not been repaired – I thought they had – heard reports during the last storm – the levees held – so I am confused – maybe, I have to do some research – that is a darn shame – what happened not too many years ago – when the levees broke and areas all around were flooded – so many people displaced – makes me so angry, lady!

ladypenquin

Yes, they held recently, but one reason why the 9th Ward flooded was the levees did not do their job adequately during Katrina. Millions of dollars had been used to line the pockets of politicians, instead of infrastructure repairs.

duchess01

Exactly, lady – what I remember – broke my heart – there needs to be some accountability for these projects – an arm of the OMB maybe – dunno – So sad – it did not have to happen – at all!

andyocoregon

Sounds as though these rat infested districts are also bullet infested. Dangerous place to live.

daughnworks247

Baltimore Mayor resigned, because she was crooked, her office raided by the FBI. She wrote a children’s book and had the city promote it with taxpayer dollars.
The District Attorney falsely accused 6 police officers for the death of Freddie Gray and damn near started a race war. Ask CVS about their burned down business.
We have DeRay McKesson, given a $160K a year job to recruit teachers to Baltimore School Districts, who lives in a house paid for by an Open Society Board Member, while McKesson traveled the country as head of Black Lives Matter.
Now, we have Cummings wife, who will certainly face charges for fraud in her “Charity”.
Baltimore has NOT been represented well.
Cummings has been a Congressman from Baltimore since 1996. Cummings should be held accountable, or is Cummings “above the law”?

GA/FL

Don’t forget – the female head of the Baltimore jail had a baby by a prisoner!

daughnworks247

Oh, Lord no!!

nikkichico7

…. 😖🤚‼️‼️ …

GA/FL
nikkichico7

Press charges … jail the whole miserable thieving lot …
Its outrageous …
🤨👍‼️

Katie

Hmmm…is that why the “First Step” plan is allowing thousands of prisoners to be released?
Making room for these soon-to-be convicted criminals?

duchess01

Steve in Lewes

FYI – Born and raised in glorious Baltimore, and after 61 years wife and me just packed up and moved outta there……that place is an absolute shit hole. Was once a great city and suburbs, I hate going back just visiting my Mom and Father-in-law.
A little reference on Cummings and his district . Wife and me have voted republican since Ronald Reagan. When we got married, we moved from just outside Baltimore to further west, Howard County; at that time was fairly rural, great schools, very conservative. Our voting district stretched all the way to western MD and was represented by a very conservative guy Roscoe Bartlett. The 8 districts in Maryland at the time were approx half sane (conservative) and the other half loony..not any more. Now all Dems except one.
Once the Dems got control of redistricting, they gerrymandered Roscoe outta there and I ended up with that Cummings POS.

Dora
Deplorable Patriot

I got to solo some of his work in the Chiesa della Pieta in Venice where he was the music director for one of the Oespedali during the last century of the republic. He actually, was an ordained priest, but was released from his duties as he was not well enough to perform them. So, he was music director of the oespedali that was more like a foundling home. They would give the mother and the child different halves of a holy card. If the family wanted to claim the child later, they had to produce the holy card half. There’s a great little museum attached to the church that tells about it.
What they really did, though, was train the girls to be musicians so that they would have a profession other than being on the streets. In the music itself, the names of the girls assigned parts and solos were written out. There’s a fascinating history to it all as the music itself was lost for almost 200 years, and the heirs literally split the scores in half. One family had one half, another family had the other and in the 20th century music scholars had to match them up.

nikkichico7

DP what a story behind the music, I glad you posted it. I watched the video with the music, the pictures matched the music 🎶

Deplorable Patriot

When I did the Venice thing, the late nun who ran the chorus and led the charge was one of the scholars who put the scores back together. It was kind of a privilege to be able to do it, actually.

nikkichico7

Wow 😮 … that’s wonderful

Deplorable Patriot

Most people know Vivaldi’s strings work, but not necessarily the vocal literature. During Lent, since the theaters and opera houses were dark, they would provide the music for Vespers services in the evenings. So, in Vivaldi’s body of work are a number of Beatus Vir, Magnificat, and Nunc Dimitis which are all part of that particular service.

Alison

This must have been a highlight for you, DP, not only to solo his work but to do so in the very place he once lived and worked. I imagine it is an experience that remains vivid for you. Thanks for this fascinating piece of history – hearing your personal ties makes history come alive.

Deplorable Patriot

Thanks. The Nunc Dimitis we sang in that concert was actually written by Baldassare Galuppi who was music director at a different Oespedali on the other side of Venice. GORGEOUS church GORGEOUS, known as the Derilitti, We sang the second concert there, and of course, the Nunc Dimitis sounded better in that church. The solo in that one was the BIG one. And I mean big, to the point that my cover said to me in the airport, Don’t get sick, I haven’t looked at it. Naturally, I came down with the worst head cold I had had in years two days before, spent a day in bed, my fever broke the morning of the first concert, and my voice was done two hours after the second. Then my mom took me to Tuscany for a week. It was one heck of a trip.

Valerie Curren

“hearing your personal ties makes history come alive”–Amen!!! That’s part of what can make genealogy so addictive too, imo…

nikkichico7

The photos match the music 🎶 … very nice 😎❤️

Deplorable Patriot

Re the VOAT outage yesterday….
The post in question that seemed to do the trick to bring on an attack was one that featured Epstein, the Red Cross, Vatican and a woman by the name of Nicole Junkermann. Feelings run strong about the Vatican, but mentions rarely draw crash attacks. (It’s as if ill will is being fostered against the entity, though.) Same now with Epstein, and, to an extent the Red Cross given that we know that that para government NGO is used as a piggy bank thanks to Q.
That leaves NJ (not new Jersey) as the draw for nefarious attention.
So, this morning, just being curious, I went looking for NJ’s info, and there is not much to find in a top tier search. BIG RED FLAG. The people who are really at the top have carefully crafted images presented to the public or are reclusive to the point that we have no photographs of them.
I’m not the only one who noticed NJ’s lack of out there information. Someone else did a profile 2-3 weeks ago after a massive deep dive. This is one to definitely archive as I have no doubt it will disappear eventually. NJ, it seems, is into making money off of the World Cup and data mining.
https://theswamp.media/the-epstein-associate-nobody-s-talking-about-the-idf-linked-bond-girl-infiltrating-the-uk-nhs
The Epstein Associate Nobody’s Talking About: The IDF-Linked Bond Girl Infiltrating the UK NHS
by JOHNNY VEDMORE 17 days ago in CORRUPTION
FIFA Corruption, the Panama Papers, the Mossad, and Nicole Junkermann
From the article:
As of 2019, Nicole Junkermann’s current business portfolio is very impressive. She’s often described as an ex-model, entrepreneur and investor, but Ms. Junkermann is much more than just what you see at first glance. Born in Dusseldorf, Germany on 27th April 1975, Nicole Junkermann studied Business Administration at the International University of Monaco, and then went onto study Management Development at the prestigious Harvard Business School in the United States. Amongst her many talents she is multilingual and can speak German, English, French, Italian, and Spanish. In 1998, after graduating from the University of Monaco, she co-founded “Winamax,” which was an early online gaming platform that existed before online gaming regulation became a priority for the authorities. Winamax was sold in 2001 and Junkermann would go on to invest in a recently created media rights company called “Infront Sports and Media AG,” where she would soon serve as the Vice Chairman of the Board of Directors….
During her time at Infront Sports and Media, Junkermann would be caught flying on Jeffrey Epstein’s “Lolita Express” on three occasions. The first flight recorded, on 22nd March 2002, she would share with Epstein, Sean Koo, and one other passenger, but it’s her second trip which really stands out. On Saturday 31st August 2002, Jeffrey Epstein and Nicole Junkermann would fly from Paris Le Bourget Airport to Birmingham Airport, in the UK, alone. They would return to Paris, via the same route, on Monday 2nd September 2002. For Jeffrey Epstein to fly without any of his normally present entourage is very unusual. So what was happening that weekend? I’ve done a lot of research on these dates, but as of yet, I do not have any answers.
At that time, Junkermann was 27 years old, so it’s very unlikely that they were dating, as everyone knows Jeffrey Epstein isn’t interested in fully sexually developed adults. Finding this anomaly on Epstein’s plane manifest encouraged me to look deeper into the life of Nicole Junkermann, and amongst other things, whether or not she had any links to a state intelligence agency. Were Junkermann and Epstein meeting alone for innocent reasons? Even though Junkerman had made many investments already, she might have been trying to get more funds from an eager investor like Epstein. How Epstein originally accrued his billions is still quite a murky subject in itself.
Whatever the reason for these two incredibly rich people being together, this meeting was a very private one. Junkermann had also just completed Harvard University’s Program for Management Development, and Jeffrey Epstein had a high-profile relationship with Harvard which, in 2003, led to him donating $30,000,000.00 to the Ivy League college. Was Epstein using the famous American college to recruit for his own businesses or other interests?
More Epstein later, but firstly, continuing with Junkermann’s career, in 2005 she founded a private equity fund focused on media and sports investments in Asia and Europe called “United in Sports” and managed to raised €242.2 million for the venture in 2007. Her other project, Infront Sports and Media, was ultimately sold to a European private equity firm, Bridgepoint, for €600 million in 2011. In that year Nicole Junkermann had officially become one of the hottest investors in the world. Since her very first acquisitions which I’ve already referred to, Junkermann has invested in or purchased: Shanghai Really Sports, Ziggurat, Thousand-Child, Aloha, Jobbio, Emoticast, Elvie, Auctionata, Coindrum, Spoon Guru, Optiopay, Grabyo, Magnum Global Ventures, Songza, tausendkind, Revolut, Sentient Technologies, Here be Dragons, Soundtrack Your Brand, Groq, Catapult, Delivery Club, Relate IQ, DollarShaveClub, Bruhouse Brewery, Cage Warriors, Eagle Alpha, Gokixx, Rebuy.de, Travelbird, Healthtech Digital, OWKIN, Reporty Homeland Security, and Carbyne911. The latter four of these companies are of significant interest.

NebraskaFilly

Well, let’s see what FB does with this – just posted the link.

duchess01

Interesting bio, DP – however, I think her claim to fame is the Photo connection…there are numerous links on Duck – and this summary on Investor’s Globe…
https://www.investorsglobe.com/investors/europe/nicole-junkermann/

Deplorable Patriot

Yes, that’s one. But, another was found. DuPont. It means “bridge” in old French.
All the way around the chemical and pharmaceutical companies are mixed up in all of it, too.

Tonawanda

I could never “see” the Fuddy murder in the video before, and I am not sure I am seeing it now. But this link from QRV gives the clearest pictorial I have seen showing Fuddy’s murder:
https://accidentalpatriot4.wordpress.com/2014/02/23/see-how-loretta-fuddy-was-murdered-photos-beyond-frightening/

BAM

Excellent! Keith Yukio Yamamoto must have seen the diver, in fact the diver has placed himself between Yamamoto and the person who’s behind Yamamoto. He’s watching the camera person, because that’s the direction he’s most exposed to except for Yamamoto. I looked a bit, and the only thing that cropped up about him was he amended his 2012 financials. (He replaced Fuddy.) His largest holdings are with Vanguard, and not an unusual amount.
But it seems that I saw something about Vanguard in connection with Epstein, Maybe he keeps a LOW profile by profiting from some insider info, but doesn’t make waves by using modest amounts? I dunno.

Tonawanda

Do not know either, and the whole “diver killed Fuddy” scenario needs Yamamoto as a true witness to be explained.

churchmouse
Tonawanda

Oh my goodness. Much sadness happening.

churchmouse

Totally agree.
Thank you for reading the extended explanation, recommended to all on the Q Tree.
Have a blessed week ahead, Tonawanda.

daughnworks247
GA/FL

The (insert expletives) brazen monster evidently believed he was untouchable.

daughnworks247

Within the article, we learn a freshman girl got into a fight with another girl who called her a prostitute. School admin found $300 in her purse, knew she was doing something but dismissed drugs.
Problem was NEVER REPORTED and school principal was “unavailable for comment”.

pgroup

Was this due to the program that kept Trayvon Martin out of justice system until he got killed? Which was the program that helped keep the Stoneman HS shooter out of jail until he murdered all those people?
That ‘never report’ program?

pgroup

Wonder if he got inspiration from this flick:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Maids_All_in_a_Row

daughnworks247

No, I believe that was a high end high school in NYC. This one is in Florida

GA/FL

Blasphemy laws – resist them with all possible means!!!

A Fortiori

Yes, I have posted here before that we in the West are going to have to think clearly about religious freedom in the coming years. Islam is both a religion and a political system, and as a political system it is not compatible with our constitution. If we allow everything Islam embraces to be protected as the exercise of free religion, we will be allowing Muslims the ability to undermine our constitution and our laws.

kalbokalbs

^^^ Huge issue that has yet to fully emerge.
Courts supporting the Constitution essential. Critical President Trump gets another four years.

NebraskaFilly

Just as I have posted the solution before – the problem is verification – is it real or is it Taqqiyah? Islam MUST publicly accept that Sharia Law is subservient to Constitutional Law, just as every other major religion in the world has done.

GA/FL

Absolutely so.

GA/FL

Could this hit Florida? What is the cause?

NebraskaFilly

Whaddya’ mean, what is the cause? Don’t you know about climate change??!!?? How backwards of you!!!! (/s hopefully not needed).

andyocoregon

Western Florida beaches have been invaded by a red tide that has killed a lot of sea life and made the beaches virtually unusable since last year.
https://www.vrmintel.com/florida-gulf-coast-red-tide-stifles-tourism-and-vacation-rentals/

singingsoul1

The way I see the algae it is the filter of the Ocean just like a fishtanks has a filter.
Maybe I am wrong but something has to filter all the shit that goes into the ocean it just does not evaporate.
I mean we had cabbage and all kind of other stuff including oil leaks. The other day there was a video where drug smugglers threw their loot over board.
Somehow all the impurities need to filtered out. Amazing how nature finds their own cure for human stupidity or near sidedness.

GA/FL

In freshwater ponds, we see algae overgrowth smothering fish as a symptom – caused by too much phosphate/phosphorous in fertilizer.

GA/FL

From The Um-Hmmm Department.

daughnworks247

Sooooooo, did he SAVE his life or was the one who tried to kill him?
This is the NYPD officer convicted of killing 4 drug dealers and burying them.

GA/FL

Why did Epstein have a cell mate?
When did the cell mate call the guards?
Too many questions to answer yours.

singingsoul1

daughnworks247
“Sooooooo, did he SAVE his life or was the one who tried to kill him?
This is the NYPD officer convicted of killing 4 drug dealers and burying them.”
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That is if the powers want Epstein dead or alive.
I say the cop threatened Epstein to what will happen to him if he does not play they the rules.
Being in fear for your life I more frightening than death.

LM

I am not familiar with Kevin Shipp, but i found it interesting that his view of mob influence corresponds with Wolf’s analysis of the NYPD “suicides”.
https://usawatchdog.com/deep-state-wants-epstein-gone-kevin-shipp/

NebraskaFilly

I’ve seen a few items from him over the years.
“Kevin Shipp is a retired CIA spook and whistleblower. He has exposed the US deep state and charged the CIA with systematically use of unconstitutional and illegal measures to terrorise employees to prevent them from becoming whistleblowers. He has also charged that “Hillary Clinton was running and is running a global financial criminal syndicate. She was using these secret servers to conduct Clinton financial money laundering business.”[1]
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Kevin_Shipp

LM

He has a website. (Referenced in the article I posted). I peeked but have not listened to the audio or extensively looked at the site.
However, the little that I did read is appalling in its revelations.
https://www.fortheloveoffreedom.net/

kinthenorthwest

Our politicians continue to debate what to do about illegal immigration, how best to secure our southern border, and how serious the problem is. Illegal crossings have surged — and President Trump has declared a national emergency. What’s driving so many migrants to risk their lives and join caravans to enter the US? And is there reason to be concerned about the criminal elements coming with them? Jonathan Elias traveled to Honduras to find out.

kinthenorthwest

From a friend on FB

daughnworks247

Beautiful………..

kinthenorthwest

TY I felt it was worth sharing

kalbokalbs

T3, Thanks for highlighting slavery, specifically modern day slavery. Horrifying what is happening to people.
Here in the US, as I travel the highways, have seen many of the anti-trafficking signs in truck stops and hotels.
Releasing the 2,000 pages of Epstein information can’t come to soon. IMHO. This crap needs to be further exposed. Nailing the obscenely rich will, I think, make great inroads as details are made public.
Epstein reaching directly into high schools, (Daughn’s post) is horrifying.
The wall will have an effect also, I think. Stymie the flow of coyotes hustling women and children across the border. Then onward across the web of Interstates.
Globally, amplifying slave trade supporting mining, industries directly supporting the supply chain of US consumer products would help, somewhat.
A few months back, IIRC, here at Q Tree someone posted a great information article on child slaves mining a key mineral / component used in batteries used in cars. Imagine if that information went main stream via MCM. Wonder what the freaks running CA would do. Ban batteries made from minerals mined by child slaves. Would be great. Or would they be in denial. and ignore it out of convenience.

Cuppa Covfefe

The Greens will have an issue with that, although they support paedophilia. They don’t give a rip about children.
It will be bad publicity for them, and without the child slaves mining the rare earths, they will become far too expensive to use for the Greem schemes, erm, scams. Every electric car, every wind turbine, and every solar panel requires a relatively large amount of these minerals, especially considering the volume the Greens intend to push on this.
No slave kids ;= no green “Energiewende”…

kinthenorthwest

What I did find interesting about slavery in the past is the plight of the Irish…In fact they had it worse than Blacks in most households.
Further interesting was that Harris’s family had a long history of slave holding, and when it became illegal to have Black slaves, her family brought Irish slaves.

kinthenorthwest

So much history out there that people don’t look into

Valerie Curren

If you ever watch Henry Louis “Skip” Gates (of “the Cambridge police acted stupidly” “fame”) show “Finding Your Roots” he often places a very heavy emphasis on Race & Slavery (he appears to be a personally conflicted soul in these arenas) for his famous guests. It’s amazing how many times whatever slavery tale is unearthed from the records it doesn’t fit the modern established narrative…
White man marries black woman & gives his name to their children & trains “mulatto” sons in his trade…
Free blacks own slave blacks (because it’s the only way to protect their family you see!)..
More blacks are free than slave in certain areas pre-Civil War…
Most whites in the Slave-era South were neither slave-owners nor managers…
Irish, Chinese, Indians, etc were treated as or worse than slaves (Indians kept black slaves, etc)…
Certain black former slaves refused to leave their former masters & continued to “love” & “serve” them…

kinthenorthwest

I try and turn channel very quickly if Gates appears on my set…Gates was one of the biggest first examples of what a racist Obama was/is.
Black slaves were treated far better than any other race because they cost way more.
As you said, very few people actually owned slaves.

Valerie Curren

“Black slaves were treated far better than any other race because they cost way more.”
I have no way of knowing if that’s true. I was merely pointing out that even with Gates’ obvious bias & black/slavery agenda tendencies he still couldn’t make the records consistently spit out the perspective that seems to be the modern “authorized” version of this horrific institution.
I once read a book called “Slaves in the Family” that is fascinating in its telling. The author has a Daughn-like capacity to paint evocative word pictures to give you a glimpse of the many people/relations both black & white he interviewed. It is a personal genealogical tale but definitely has implications for understanding the historical aspects of slavery in his expansive family & can certainly inform our national understanding on this complex topic…
I also read this book (below), which sheds fascinating & historical light on the topic of slavery using a court case study & plums the depth of many records to come to its fascinating conclusions–a great read for history buffs interested in race relations, New Orleans, court cases, etc…
Title: The lost German slave girl : the extraordinary true story of the slave Sally Miller and her fight for freedom
by: Bailey, John
From a personal perspective I am a white female who grew up in Metro Detroit. I had a good friend from church who was mixed race/mulatto, as were both her parents. They lived in Windsor (just across the Detroit River from Detroit).
I slept over a few times at this friend’s house & was Amazed at the difference between Canadian blacks (often descended from Underground Railroad escapees) & American blacks. From my limited exposure it did not appear that the Canadians carried nearly the chip on their soldiers about race relations as did their black American “cousins”.
I also went on a Missions Trip to West Africa & was usually the only “white” person in sight. We met a fellow missionary who lived in that country but came from England (& also happened to be black) & her attitude & interactions were Very Different from the American blacks & seemed to be lacking the “chip on the shoulder” aspect that can be so pervasive over here.
We encountered African blacks who had black servants (these were major church leaders) & seemed to treat these servants as if they were invisible & practically non-persons. My close (black) friend & I would make it a point to look these servants in the eye & speak to them as equals but the undercurrents of classism persisted across the Atlantic.
We’ve had a number of “black” respite-care workers over the years to help care for our autistic son in our home. Many of them either lived, worked, or had close family that lived in Detroit. Some shared incredible stories of extreme black racism amongst Detroit blacks, judging each other significantly based on the lightness or darkness of their skin & some strange business dealings within “the community” (black business owners demanding black customer loyalty but black customers preferring to frequent white businesses because they “knew” they would get better quality service there)…
Race in America is Extremely Complex & based on my limited experience with blackness in a couple of other countries it is way more than one dimensional in other locations too…

kinthenorthwest

There is a site but here a couple of Memes and the story on Harris
https://twitter.com/GracieLovesUSA/status/1118000049219231744?s=20
https://twitter.com/GracieLovesUSA/status/1118231537621667840?s=20
SLAVE REGISTERS FROM LONDON Name The Slaves Kamala Harris’ Ancestor Owned https://bigleaguepolitics.com/slave-registers-from-london-name-the-slaves-kamala-harris-ancestor-owned/ via @BigLeaguePol

Valerie Curren

Thanks

Valerie Curren

Here’s a little more food for thought on this topic:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/07/the_forgotten_history_of_britains_white_slaves_in_america.html
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/05/islamic_sex_slavery_painting_stirs_international_controversy.html
https://dna-explained.com/2016/06/19/fredericka-not-moselman-but-ruhlereuhle-1788-1863-and-the-voyage-from-hell-52-ancestors-123/
The last link is to a fascinating blog with a genealogical focus & there are glimpses of a relatively positive “indentured servitude” story pieced together from discovered records. In another blog post the author discussed the Caribbean Island slavery of religious minority whites, Mennonite or Quaker, I believe…
https://dna-explained.com/2018/07/08/johann-adam-ruhle-reuhl-1764-after-1817-shipwrecked-refugee-52-ancestors-201/
This post shows an auction of ships passengers for indentured servitude to pay off their transport costs…

kinthenorthwest

Wow to think some were auctioned off..Ouch

Valerie Curren

So the ship’s captain that brought them to the New World would get his money up front. They then had to work for their “buyer” until they’d worked off their debt (though apparently, per some of your info, many died before they were ever freed). The DNAexplained posts have relatively happy endings for the indentured family thankfully.

kinthenorthwest

Read/heard that many never were able to work it off, even though they worked their butts off.

Valerie Curren

Sadly this was apparently true…but at least that indentured scenario allowed Some impoverished to Choose to come to the New World & pay their debts by the sweat of their brow & strength of their backs (assuming those that bought their passage dealt fairly with them)…

kinthenorthwest

Most however didn’t—H3LL even today we see the mistreatment of people in service jobs

Tonawanda

The evidence is overwhelming (IMO) that the Shroud of Turin is the actual burial cloth of Jesus.
The evidence is NOT overwhelming, but very interesting, that the image on the Shroud is similar to a strobe-photo, “taken” by the parallel emissions of radiation. IOW, the Shroud captures the moments of resurrection and shows actual movement.
This was posted today:
https://townhall.com/columnists/myrakahnadams/2019/07/28/why-does-the-shroud-of-turin-still-exist-n2550635
The post discusses the many takes on the Shroud.
BUT if the Shroud interests you, I HIGHLY recommend the years-old site of Stephen Jones. Jones is a scrupulous – – and I mean scrupulous – – document-er and explainer of the Shroud. Jones covers every conceivable aspect of the Shroud. There is a LOT to cover. It would take weeks of careful to get through the entire site.
https://theshroudofturin.blogspot.com/
His site is not intuitive, but when you get used to his posting methods, it is fascinating.
I extracted 25 points of interest from Jones. They are MY summary, totally the work of Jones. Jones copyrights all of his material, so I am posting under fair use. Each point is the subject of a much longer post by Jones. And these points are just a tiny bit of what is on his site:
1. The Assyrian cubit was the standard commercial measurement at the time of Jesus. The Shroud measures 8 x 2 Assyrian cubits, whole numbers suggesting that the Shroud was in fact measured in Assyrian cubits. There is no corresponding Medieval measurement.
2. The process for creating linen yarn was different in ancient and Medieval times. The ancient method resulted in variations in color; the Medieval resulted in uniform color. The Shroud has various shades
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3. No examples of the rare herringbone weave of the Shroud have been found from ancient times, and only one has been found from Medieval times. This is most likely because the process to make this cloth was very expensive at either time. Joseph of Arimathea was a rich man. A Medieval forger is unlikely to have spent the money on a forgery.
4. There was hidden stitching used to sew on the side piece of the Shroud (probably a belt sewn on to keep it with the Shroud). The subtle method of creating the hidden stitching has only been found in one place: at the Jewish fortress of Masada overrun by the Romans in 73 AD.
5. Selvedge is the edging used on a piece of fabric. The selvedge on the Shroud indicates it was created on a very broad loom which existed in ancient but not medieval times.
6. The man on the Shroud is naked. Jesus was never portrayed as naked in Christian art.
7. The image of the man on the Shroud is double, showing his full-length front and back. No image before the Shroud did that.
8. The image is so faint it cannot be seen close up. A person needs to be a couple feet away to see it. How would a forger create a faint image from two feet away?
9. The image is created from a single, uniform color, straw yellow. There is no other color. The image creates its effect by density; more straw yellow fibers for dark, fewer for light. The image is therefore digital.
10. The Crown of Thorns in the image shows a caplet, not a wreath. The wreath was the exclusive means of showing the Crown in Christian art.
11. The image shows piercing through the wrists, not the palms. The palms were the exclusive way Christian art depicted the Crucifixion. Only in the recent past was it discovered that the palms could not support a crucified body.
12. Scourge marks are shown around the buttocks and genitals, completely absent from Christian art, and probably considered blasphemous if done.
13. The image on the Shroud has no outline.
14. There is no sign of paint, dye, powder, or any other foreign substance on the cloth that can account for the image. The image was not painted, an undisputed fact.
15. There is no “style” to the image.
16. There is no directionality to the image, except for up or down.
17. The image is extremely superficial, one fiber deep. The image does not penetrate into the Shroud.
18. The image is a photographic negative first discovered in 1898. You can only “see” the image in a photograph.
19. A VP-8 Image Analyzer was used in 1975 to create a perfect 3-d image of the non-contact areas of the image, including the face and front of the head.
20. The image shows a man in rigor mortis with no decomposition of his body.
21. Interior parts of the man’s body (such as teeth) are shown on the image as if revealed by an x-ray.
22. The blood on the Shroud is real human blood. The blood on the right side of the man’s body is mixed with watery fluid.
23. The image shows unbroken blood clots.
24. There is no image underneath the blood clots, therefore the image was made after the blood clots.
25. Water stains on the Shroud correspond exactly to what would be expected if it were stored in an earthenware jar.

Deplorable Patriot

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NebraskaFilly

IDK what this means? Why “placeholder?”

Deplorable Patriot

so i know where i left off

NebraskaFilly

Ok

NebraskaFilly

“Art” is subjective, no? Personally, I don’t believe it but, then, I no longer believe a lot of things involving the Christian faith.

Tonawanda

Art is subjective. Whether something is art or a natural phenomenon is not.

NebraskaFilly

I was speaking about the references to historic “Christian art.”

Tonawanda

OK, I see! Yes, that is an area open to interpretation, in addition to gaps in the history of Christian art we cannot possibly know about.

Linda

Thanks for the links, Tonawanda! I’ve believed the shroud was real ever since I started reading about it in depth. There are just far too many points of proof for it to all be coincidence. (As Q would say, there are no coincidences). And the fact that they cannot explain how the image got on the shroud is a big clue that this was supernatural – the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead.

Tonawanda

If you go to the blog link, the site owner extensively discusses the carbon dating issue, which turns out to be a great discussion.

Deplorable Patriot

I am a firm believer that the Shroud is authentic, but there some problems with this list:
6. The man on the Shroud is naked. Jesus was never portrayed as naked in Christian art.
Michelangelo, actually, painted the Christ figure nude originally on “The Last Judgement” in the Sistine Chapel. After the protestant revolt, all naked figures were given loin covers, and the statues in the Vatican collection were relieved of their manhoods.
12. Scourge marks are shown around the buttocks and genitals, completely absent from Christian art, and probably considered blasphemous if done.
I would think this proves it true. The wounds clearly show the steel balls that would have been on the ends of the leather strips. Jim Caviezel got tagged with one during the filming of the Passion of the Christ and the wound was used as the basis for the make-up on his back.
Does this researcher mention that the blood type on the Shroud is AB-, same as the Crown of Thorns in Paris and the Sudarium Christi which is in Oviedo, Spain? Another tidbit, all the markings on the Shroud match the marks on the other twp artifacts.
There’s a lot of evidence that it’s the real thing. Once they got the French reweaving off of it, and retested the carbon, the dates put it right where Christ would have walked on Earth. The pollens match those of plants that only appear in that part of the Mediterranean region during March and April.
It also hasn’t disintegrated. That alone is a stunning fact.

Tonawanda

Michelangelo came after the Shroud. Prior to the Shroud, according to Stephen Jones, Christian art did not depict Jesus as naked.
Jones discusses every aspect of the Shroud extensively (you have to search it out on his site). He discusses the blood. And he discusses the Sudarium, which is (to my mind) conclusive proof of the Shroud.
The carbon dating is to be respected, but it was wrong for a variety of reasons which require more than mere acceptance of the results, and I am NOT talking about the concept of carbon dating itself.
The mere existence of the Shroud is a stunning fact by itself, no question, for those who wish to consider such a fact.

Deplorable Patriot

If the Shroud is authentic, there is no Christian art prior to it.

Tonawanda

I am sorry, you are right. I should have said “prior to the earliest agreed upon date of the Shroud’s existence.” The Shroud (IMO) existed before the mutually agreed upon date, but we are discussing whether it existed before that date. Everyone acknowledges it existed in the 1300’s, we disagree on whether it existed before. Michelangelo was after the 1300’s, and Jones says Jesus was never portrayed naked before the 1300’s.

Deplorable Patriot

Mmm…. there’s a sculpture I saw in Lucca maybe that was pretty early. It’s considered to be very authentic. All I really remember is the eyes were bulging. It was of the Crucifixion. If Christ was wearing anything it was a lioncloth.

Valerie Curren

I saw portions of a video documentary, Fabric of Time, I believe, that made some fascinating biblically & scientifically based cases for the validity of the Shroud of Turin–well worth watching if you can find it…
My main concern with the concept of the Shroud being from Jesus death/burial/resurrection (the video makes a case for an instantaneous holographic representation of the body appearing while the body was actually suspended in space–perhaps from the very act of Life returning to the slain Christ) is biblical…I used the NIV (New International Version) from BibleGateway.com to get the verses quoted below…
Matthew 27: 59 Joseph took the body, wrapped it in a clean linen cloth,
Mark 15: 46 So Joseph bought some linen cloth, took down the body, wrapped it in the linen, and placed it in a tomb cut out of rock.
Luke 23: 50 Now there was a man named Joseph, a member of the Council, a good and upright man, 51 who had not consented to their decision and action. He came from the Judean town of Arimathea, and he himself was waiting for the kingdom of God. 52 Going to Pilate, he asked for Jesus’ body. 53 Then he took it down, wrapped it in linen cloth and placed it in a tomb cut in the rock, one in which no one had yet been laid.
Luke 24: 12 Peter, however, got up and ran to the tomb. Bending over, he saw the strips of linen lying by themselves, and he went away, wondering to himself what had happened.
Note the “STRIPS of Linen” in Luke 24 above…& below in John 19 & John 20
John 19: 38 Later, Joseph of Arimathea asked Pilate for the body of Jesus. Now Joseph was a disciple of Jesus, but secretly because he feared the Jewish leaders. With Pilate’s permission, he came and took the body away. 39 He was accompanied by Nicodemus, the man who earlier had visited Jesus at night. Nicodemus brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about seventy-five pounds.[e] 40 Taking Jesus’ body, the two of them wrapped it, with the spices, in strips of linen. This was in accordance with Jewish burial customs.
John 20: 3 So Peter and the other disciple started for the tomb. 4 Both were running, but the other disciple outran Peter and reached the tomb first. 5 He bent over and looked in at the strips of linen lying there but did not go in. 6 Then Simon Peter came along behind him and went straight into the tomb. He saw the strips of linen lying there, 7 as well as the cloth that had been wrapped around Jesus’ head. The cloth was still lying in its place, separate from the linen. 8 Finally the other disciple, who had reached the tomb first, also went inside. He saw and believed.
Note John 20: 7 reveals that there was a separate cloth that had been wrapped around Jesus’ head & it was lying separate from the linen…
Therefore based on “strips of linen” & a separate burial cloth for the head of Jesus it sounds like the Shroud of Turin as fascinating & mysterious & historically relevant & analyzed as it might be Does Not appear to align with the scriptural descriptions of Jesus burial cloths, so it is most likely Not an image of Jesus…

Tonawanda

Have you read about the Sudarium of Oviedo? It is a bloodied piece of linen with a documented history older than the Shroud. The historical accounts describe it as the linen wrapped around the head of Jesus. The blood stains on the Sudarium perfectly or very closely with the stains on the Shroud.
The Shroud also has a strip of linen sewn along one side of the Shroud. It is a piece of linen separate from the Shroud, thought to be a belt, which was sewn on to keep the pieces together so the belt would not get lost.

Valerie Curren

No I’m not familiar with the Sudarium. Also my faith doesn’t at all depend on whether the Shroud or the Sudarium are actually from Jesus or not. I shared those scriptures to show that the scriptural record (especially John’s purported Eyewitness account) would seem to contradict the Shroud being the burial cloth since it is clearly Not StripS of linen…otherwise no ax to grind here–Blessings!

rayzorbak

Don’t forget about “Economic” Slavery……
Think you own your house, cars, property?
Don’t pay you TAXES…….
And see who REALLY OWNS them.

NebraskaFilly

We, ourselves, are the property/collateral of the USA Inc., held against the corporation’s international debt.

pgroup

Do you realize that can only be true if you cannot leave the USA? Do you realize that no one can be owned in the US – there is literally no authority for it? Do you realize that you don’t even own your body parts that are removed as a consequence of surgery (they are termed ‘medical waste’)?
Do you realize that your statement about USA Inc is rhetoric run through a literal lens? That our economy is being operated similar to that but that there are no facts or law to support it?
Just trying to show you a light you might have missed. No offense is intended or should be inferred.

NebraskaFilly

I believe we need to agree to disagree on this subject.

Gail Combs

“Do you realize that can only be true if you cannot leave the USA? “
Try getting a passport if they do not want you to have one. A friend who has a felony found she could not LEAVE the USA! (No Passport)

rayzorbak

So they THINK 🙂

kalbokalbs

Pardon the directness…
Apples and oranges, an understatement, me thinks.
To compare our lives with some combination of mortgage,rent, taxes…to abject slavery as desxcribed in T3 article above, 100% misses the point of, SLAVERY.
Respectfully, might be good to read, re-read T3 article above. Really puts various versions of “slavery” in perspective.

NebraskaFilly

Respectfully, you clearly do not understand my point. I am not comparing it to slavery at all.

kalbokalbs

Reply links to my post, I think. I do get confused at times. Too often, me thinks. Intended elsewhere? No matter really.
My post was in response to Razor’s post, quoted below, which I wholly cannot agree…
Quote
Don’t forget about “Economic” Slavery……
Think you own your house, cars, property?
Don’t pay you TAXES…….
And see who REALLY OWNS them.
Unquote
Regarding taxes…
Short of taxes, debt I have, is done so by choice.
Taxes I pay are to a degree, by choice….where I live, how I live drives taxes. If we wanted to, really wanted to, we could vote the bastards out and reduce taxes. To me, smacks of, choice.
Slaves have no personal choices or decisions to make.

rayzorbak

Complete Bullshite…… Our state just raised the sales taxes to the highest in the country….
I had ZERO say in the matter. Vote ’em out? Ya right. Are you suggesting that I don’t have to pay sales taxes? How? by NOT buying FOOD, etc?

Gail Combs

As far as I am concerned we are ‘free range slaves’ There is NO WAY you can avoid paying taxes even if you are on ‘welfare’ you pay the hidden taxes — 151 taxes on a loaf of bread — President Reagan.

rayzorbak

Again!…
Gail is our WINNER!

singingsoul1

In my humble opinion I believe we are slaves of our own making.
We are slaves to our things the things that own us the things we work for the things we spent our time on.
We could be free to live simple lives to give up addictions to competition, addiction to food alcohol and drugs.
Addictions to gambling , to Internet, to owning more stuff ad to money and holding gold.
True freedom is within oneself we are free people if all the things I mention do not own us.
We are not what we own we are simple as that.
I give more and more away because I see stuff as bondage and I do not want to be a slave to my tings.
Enjoying some things is good and life giving unless it owns us than we become slaves.
This is some of my own wisdom that age gifted to me.

kalbokalbs

100% agree.
Ceased collecting stuff a decade or so ago. Don’t know about the bondage angle, but simply realized I don’t need MOAR. Don’t always need “latest and greatest” TV, cell, truck… MOAR stuff means I need to care for stuff I simply don’t need.
Most of my money beyond needs goes to family in Philippines. Dirt poor they are. Sent a couple nieces to college to earn Bachelor of Science in Nursing. they are doing well now. Built a couple modest houses. Fish ponds so they can earn a living… On and on…
Yup, have MOAR than I’ll ever need. Time to help those in dire circumstances;-)
All of that said, I absolutely am onboard with MOAR guns and ammo!!!

rayzorbak

Whatever….. I was just making a point. My bad

crossthread42

Folks..
Looks like Judgement Day has arrived..
Misses & I have to move..
Uncertainty abounds

Concerned Virginian

crossthread42
Oh how awful. There are no words. This is your home.
I can only imagine what you and your wife are going through.
Dear God, please help these good people!

BAM

🙏

Linda

Crossthread, I’m so sorry to hear this. You have my prayers and hopes that a solution will be found.

BAM

🙏

crossthread42

Misses & I are going through things, As no, We are selling” “everything” Car/Boat/Tools/Fishing gear etc for deposits/moving expenses.. one example.
We have this 3 piece set of coffee/inn tables, (from Mom), that is heavy solid wood.. They are YUGE!comment image

Valerie Curren

Hey, I just wanted to drop in & say I’m Finally (mostly) caught up with reading the historical posts on this Amazing Blog. What a wealth of info, perspective, patriotism, hope, & faith can be found here!!! I’m looking forward to reading along more in real time & potentially interfacing with the many unique & insightful commenters & posters here. God Blessings to you All!comment image
http://www.wordblessings.com/images/9702-truth-will-set-you-free.jpgcomment image
…hopefully above you can see a few scripture-based encouragements along the lines of freedom…

pgroup

Such nice things to say about our little group of Q fanatics! 🙂

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

Correction: Q FANTASTICS!!! 😉😍😉

B.b.S.s.Saint

hello bflyjesusgrl! Those are great memes that Valerie posted and yes Fantastics! Hope you are doing fine.

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

Hi Miss Bren!! 👋👋😍🤗😘

Valerie Curren

& some of us Q agnostics… 🙂

ladypenquin

Hi, Valerie. Welcome. I’ve been receiving notifications realizing you were reading some of my abortion posts. Thank you.
You’ll like it here. This a great bunch of MAGA folks, who are realistic and optimistic.

Valerie Curren

An incredibly insightful distillation of the Treeper population & such wide-ranging & well-researched & well-presented perspectives. Reading most of the posts & some of the comments has been quite eye-opening!

Valerie Curren

I copied some material by another Treeper on the abortion topic at this post:
https://specialconnections.wordpress.com/2018/02/23/american-abortion-abomination/
Here’s a bit of the detail there, fyi:
“FACT: An average of 1,300,000 babies are killed annually in the U.S. through surgical abortion.
FACT: Because many contraceptive measures are abortifacients (drugs that induce or cause abortions), it is important not to overlook the number of children killed by chemical abortions. Since 1965, an average of 11 million women have used abortifacient methods of birth control in the U.S. at any given time.
FACT: Using formulas based on the way the birth control pill works, pharmacy experts project that about 14,000,000 chemical abortions occur in the U.S. each year.
FACT: ALL estimates that a total well in excess of 560,000,000 chemical abortions were performed in the U.S. between 1965 and 2005.
FACT: Using formulas based on the way the birth control pill works, pharmacy experts project that well in excess of 610,000,000 chemical abortions were performed in the U.S. between 1965 and 2009.
FACT: Since that 610,000,000 figure only takes you to 2009, you have to add in the years 2010 to 2017 — eight additional years of chemical abortions. Eight times 14,000,000 equals 112,000,000. Now add in the estimated 61,000,000 surgical and medical abortions since 1965. The total is 797,000,000.
So this is what I wanted to point out — the American abortion number is not 60,000,000-plus.
No, it is 13 times that amount.
Let’s put this mass murdering into context:
• 20,946,000 = murdered by the Nazis
• 61,911,000 = murdered by the Soviet Union (1917-1987).
• 76,692,000 = murdered by Red China (this is a moving number, since the communist Chinese still have prison camps).
IMHO, you can thank the 19th Amendment for the sorry fact that American women are far and away the top mass murderers of all time.
FACTOID: A majority of American women have consistently voted for DemonRAT in EVERY SINGLE Presidential election since Reagan vs. Carter, i.e., for the past 36 years.”
These horrifying statistics only reflect calculations through 2017. Some Abrahamic figure must have pleaded with God to not (yet) destroy our version of a modern day Sodom & Gomorrah for the sake of a small “righteous” remnant! May God forgive us for the blood of these innocents & grant repentance…

Nor'easter

Welcome aboard!

Valerie Curren

Thanks!

Nor'easter

YW!

Valerie Curren

Thanks much “Triple T”–Blessings!

michaelh

Glad you’ve caught up!

Valerie Curren

Me too. So many amazing things happening & I hope to be reading about current events while the conversations are hot off the presses! 🙂

michaelh

There’s gold in them past convos.

Valerie Curren

Yes & maybe I’ll keep wandering through the past interactions to mine the occasional nugget (as time & the mood permits)!

NebraskaFilly

“According to the Thomas More Society, which is representing the mother, Anmarie Calgaro, her “due process rights were trampled upon when the county and its referred health providers ended her parental control over her minor son without a court order of emancipation.” This is all plainly spelled out in the LifeSiteNews article. You might be able to piece the information together from the CNBC report but not without an heroic effort to cut through all the political correctness, beginning with the misleading reference to Calgaro’s biological son as her “transgender daughter.”
This is a nightmarish story that CNBC endeavors to make less nightmarish by making it next to impossible for readers to follow.”
https://libertyunyielding.com/2019/07/27/journalism-101-youd-never-guess-that-these-two-articles-are-reporting-the-same-news-story/

Concerned Virginian

700WLW, 11:30AM Eastern news:
So now some REPUBLICAN congressman from TEXAS (sorry, disremember his name) just said that while impeachment for POTUS is moot, his “behavior” is “concerning” and that the congressman will “support whoever the Republican nominee is for 2020”.
THIS follows what SCHIFF tweeted about how POTUS’ “behavior” is “against the core principles of our country” (SCHIFF of all people saying this!).
WATCH: this is latest strategy to 1) derail POTUS’ efforts on all fronts for the next 18 months;
2) sow JUST ENOUGH LIES about POTUS’ “un-American behavior” to give “credibility” to a potential Republican challenger for 2020.
3) cement DemocratCommunistIslamist hopefuls for 2020 arguments that POTUS is a terrible person and bad for the country, so elect a one of them in 2020.
And as an aside, I’m wondering if SCHIFF, in his tweet about POTUS’ “behavior” is “a violation of our obligations of citizenship” — is SCHIFF making a veiled threat that POTUS’ own citizenship is now on the table for possible revocation? I’m NOT being a tinfoil hat here —these people are beyond desperate. If they’re THIS apparently deranged, what else would they try to do?

ladypenquin

It isn’t going to go anyway. There are still Never Trumpers, no surprise. Schiff is going to ultimately fail, and these talking points are simply being giving another go ’round by all the talking heads. Nothing un-American in anything POTUS is saying.
Long before the “get” President Trump – the truth is going to be made public, re: criminality of Obama/Clinton et al, and it looks like DJT is going to be able to expose the corruption of Congress critters as well. In fact, some of those people making noise are likely worrying behind the scenes about their own issues.
If Mitch McConnell wanted to take out DJT, he could have done it long ago – and it’s clear, he isn’t… Instead, he is getting honest judges in place.

ladypenquin

Oh, and they “sowed” all kinds of hate, lies and discontent during the 2016 GOP primary – and POTUS still won the nomination. “They” like to talk because there is always some Lefty MSM looking for a good soundbite – but it’s clear they are losing and we’re winning.

singingsoul1

Concerned Virginian
“THIS follows what SCHIFF tweeted about how POTUS’ “behavior” is “against the core principles of our country” (SCHIFF of all people saying this!).”
___________________________________
I always get annoyed when leftists speak about the “core principles of our country.”
The core principles we find in the Declaration of Independence and Constitution and I am sick of people twisting their communist principles on us. Schiff needs to go back to California and life with his principles there and see the mess they have made.

Rodney Short

If you cant trust Mother Theresa who can you trust on this planet?
Kimi shared this with me this morning and I am blown away, Q is right…
https://twitter.com/Tiff_FitzHenry/status/1155186604971057152?s=19
Clinton and all the sickos are all in this shit, I just wanna drag em all to the swamps.
Awesome thread TTT as always you rock my Sundays.

kalbokalbs

UFB. Continue to be glad, some 50 years ago, I walked away from the Catholic Church. Through the eyes of a fourteen year old at the time, had seen enough.
Whether Mother Theresa was in the know, dunno. Not the point. The Church’s involvement is.
If I am wrong, the big guy can judge me on my merits over the years. Have yet to see where I mad a bad decision.
That said, I do respect folks religions they choose to follow.
The beauty of Freedom, as opposed to religious ideology edicts…Islam. A form of slavery?

Rodney Short

Thru Jesus Christ our chains are broken.

andyocoregon

Ban Confession! Conduit for victims of pedophile priests.

Deplorable Patriot

Andy is fallen away.

Deplorable Patriot

RCC…Royal Crown Cola? Pet peeve. CATHOLIC. I detest using letters rather than saying the name outright and it doesn’t matter the entity other than the FBI.
Anyway, those who have fallen away have their reasons. The deep animosity has a root in the Scandal in this case, never mind the details.
And Sacraments are non-starters. They are what they are, given to us by Christ.

andyocoregon

@D.P.
I prefer to think of myself as self enlightened about the corrupt Catholic Church.
And I think many True Believers are simply highly indoctrinated and think the church can do no wrong.

andyocoregon

That’s Nunya.
As in Nunya Biznis.

mandy

Maybe….the Church has a lot of people who do evil in it because it’s a HOSPITAL and so it is sought out by those who have SICK SOULS.
Maybe….the Church has a lot of people who do evil in it because satan hates the Church and is constantly on the attack.
Maybe…the Church has a lot of people who do evil in it because just as Christ will leave the 99 faithful to try and reclaim the one lost sheep, so too will satan pursue ANYONE who tries to leave HIS fold.

NebraskaFilly

A lot of very murky info, altho her involvement with truly evil men is troubling, to say the least.

Rodney Short

Whats murky about it?

NebraskaFilly

Just all the claims and counter-claims. Only thing that might be consider proven are the 4 cases; even then, there are claims that nun’s “confession” was coerced. Throw politics into the mix and you get a decidedly murky picture, IMO.

Deplorable Patriot

I said this on yesterday’s thread when this story was posted and I say it here: never believe the surface of Mother Teresa’s order stories without reading the whole thing. She died in 1997, and waiving the twenty year stay before opening a cause for canonization was a mistake, IMO, I mean it’s there for a reason. BUT, if you look at the dates of the crimes most of them occurred AFTER she was dead. In addition, someone here wrote that it is possible she was hoodwinked and her order was used. That is entirely possible.
The miracles attributed to her, though, are still valid.

kinthenorthwest
andyocoregon

Those inflated smashing balls look like fun to me. I can’t imagine anyone getting hurt doing that.

NebraskaFilly

They have those at all of our Klown Festivals – my sweet Piper tried it this year and LOVED it. It looked like SO much fun but it was steaming hot at the time. She had fun helping some of the smaller kiddos. I actually considered buying her one for her BD but they are expensive!!!

NebraskaFilly

A side note: Twitter covered the GIF as “containing sensitive material”……!!!!

LM

For some reason this website is prefaced with a “not secure” notice before the website title.
However, it is full of encouraging news that sounds just like Q and Flep without being either one (I think).
http://allnewspipeline.com/Game_Changing_Smoking_Gun_DOJ_To_Expose_Russia_Hoax.php

NebraskaFilly

My “local” (Norfolk) newspaper site also has the same notice. Not sure what that means exactly, TBH, but I have never had a problem on the site over the last 6+ years.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Browsers are now coming down hard on everybody who has not switched to the https protocol. Anybody who is still using old-school http in their URLs is getting pressured to change over.

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. Gargle, via Chrome (the code base for just about all browsers now, at least the “engine”) is having a monumental hissy fit about certificate handling, and some other protocols. Seems like they want to be the ones setting the standards.
Having said that, https should be the standard. Just hope we don’t end up with another TLS (heartbleed) situation where last-minute or quicky fixes bork everything…
Brave puts up some “self-glorifying statistics” 🙂 when you open a new window. Like https “upgrades”, etc.
They also have xxxx.x hours saved.
Is there anywhere I can cash those hours in and get them back? 🙂

michaelh

Hey, the week’s just starting and a TLS vulnerability hasn’t been announced yet… too early to call

mandy

“Trump Was Right: Orkin Lists Baltimore as One of Most Rat-Infested US Cities”
just the headline cracked me up…
I did not read the story, but for those who’d like to do so, here is the link:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/07/trump-was-right-orkin-lists-baltimore-as-one-of-most-rat-infested-us-cities/

kalbokalbs

IF CNN were not in bed with D-Rats, they’d ask D-Rat clown car Presidential candidates about President Trump’s tweets addressing Baltimore (via cummins), San Francisco (via TW to Pelosi). CNN moderator could easily, factually talk to tent cities, lack of sanitation, poop in the streets, drugs… in large D-Rat run cities (Baltimore, Frisco, Oakland, LA…).
Ask about possibility of naming Antifa a terrorist organization.

andyocoregon

Nice fantasy, but those are all questions the liberally biased CNN moderators will avoid asking for fear of losing their cushy jobs.

Cuppa Covfefe

Mandy, just a thought. If you don’t read a story, and “vet” it, e.g. run down the links, why post it? The content and(or background might be VERY different than what the title or URL says.
In the newzbiz, the people writing the headlines are rarely the ones writing the stories. And on the web, it’s who can even get more clicks (“If it bleeds, it leads” and “good news is no news” v2.0).

kinthenorthwest

From 1st of July.
REPORT: 35,000 MORE Africans on way to US via South America
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/report-35000-more-africans-on-way-to-us-via-south-america/

GA/FL

This is Obama’s doings. Bet he ‘organized’ this migrant community.

mollypitcher5

The picture of the Pelosi entourage in Italy is only a stopover. Her real reason is to go to Ghana. There I’m sure she’ll cement a plan for them to assist fighting age men to “migrate” to the US~~~~
“In Ghana, our delegation looks forward to high-level discussions on key issues such as regional security, sustainable and inclusive development and the challenges of tomorrow including the climate crisis,” Speaker Pelosi continued. “It is a special honor to be the first U.S. Speaker of the House to address the illustrious Parliament of Ghana, as we build on the partnership between our nations.”
https://www.pulse.com.gh/news/local/us-speaker-nancy-pelosi-to-address-parliament-of-ghana/m7qdx69

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. This is COVER for her AIDES to engage in GLOBALIST MIGRATION CONSPIRACY.

Concerned Virginian

Ghana is 2/3 Christian and of the rest of the population, 16% is MUSLIM. This percentage is well above the 7% – 9% Muslim-population threshold in non-Islamic countries — that can give them a disproportionate influence on that country.
GUARANTEE you that “OMAR”-ELMI and TLAIB (I think she’s on the trip) are going to agitiate the Muslims in Ghana to start “exerting their rights under Islam” for foot-in-the-door laws to institute Halal food laws / acquiescing to Muslim females wearing the hijab and abaya everywhere including at work / establishment of more mosques / incremental acceptance and implementation of Sharia Law.

kinthenorthwest

Between Obama, Pope and Soros — I bet majority of money came from them.

andyocoregon

Can a breakout of Ebola be far behind in our country?

kinthenorthwest

Probably not—Border patrol has been warning America for years that the illegals are bringing in all kinds of diseases with them.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This is GLOBALIST BULLSHIT.
Time to put the MIGRATION-PROMOTING GLOBALISTS INTO PRISON.

kinthenorthwest

Past time–so we have illegals from all over the world but we when we say any against an illegal we are racist…Give me a break

Gail Combs

“REPORT: 35,000 MORE Africans on way to US via South America”
And they get STOPPED in Guatemala!!! OR in MEXICO.

Alison

T3 – thank you so much for today’s exceptional post. I am blown away by the amount of time & thought you put into your writings; it definitely adds meaning to my life. There have been a few Sundays where your offerings are so profound and thought-provoking that I decide to skip church attendance in order to focus on what you’ve provided. Today is one if those Sundays.
I agree with a comment upthread that ‘facts’ on the enormity of global slavery are arbitrarily tossed about in the same manner as climate change science, without any accepted methodology or reconciliation to verify accuracy. NGOs & govt’s are not to be trusted to provide the stats when they are the ones pulling in ‘the Benjamins’.
Regardless of the accuracy of slave numbers or distribution maps, there is certainty that this is an unacceptable human condition. Exposing realities like the nexis between mining and ‘green’ energy or the nexis between trafficking & political/financial powers is vital.

Valerie Curren

“T3 – thank you so much for today’s exceptional post. I am blown away by the amount of time & thought you put into your writings; it definitely adds meaning to my life. There have been a few Sundays where your offerings are so profound and thought-provoking that I decide to skip church attendance in order to focus on what you’ve provided. Today is one if those Sundays.”
Although I’m relatively new to the Q Tree & have never yet read a T3 Sunday Thread I can relate to the concept of finding a fellowship of believers online, sort of like a cyber church of the mind in a way. Sometimes this is more edifying & interactive than many face-to-face church experiences have been for many years now…

NebraskaFilly

Book report on John L. Allen, Jr.’s 2016 “The Global War on Christians.” I am about half-way through and finding that he conflates MANY examples as “religious persecution” that aren’t really religious persecution but repercussions from political acts by certain Christians. He claims that because their motivation arises from their Christian beliefs, he considers that as persecution. NOT!!!!

michaelh

Look forward to hearing more

Dora

Another peaceful afternoon in Atlanta.
https://twitter.com/Trump454545/status/1155488061796638721

andyocoregon

IMO, the cops should have deployed pepper spray on those thugs. This crap is totally out of control and someone is going to get hurt badly some day soon I think.

mollypitcher5

Agree.
I did notice that one of the last ones, NYC I think, the police wouldn’t get out of the car. Story was they were called by a lady ( couldn’t tell her age) regarding street water fight. She’s at the police car window trying to tell them and getting soaked herself. I think it was a set up..get them there and out of the car so they could get doused.

Cuppa Covfefe

Hmmm. Couple that with the flame-throwing drones, and the police could “dry up” that situation in short order…

andyocoregon
andyocoregon

Oops. Sorry, wrong link for above post. S/B…..
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/events

B.b.S.s.Saint

Yay!!! our own Marica is going to be there!

mandy

From Gab:
“Andrew TorbaVerified Account@a
“The left is destroying the family!”
Get married and create your own family.
“Birth rates are down!”
Start making babies.
“Everything in culture is degenerate.”
Stop paying to support it, join a local church.
“This country is doomed!”
Run for office. Any office. Start local.
“Big tech is censoring!”
Support alternatives, learn how to set up a basic website for yourself.
You’ve been waiting for a sign, and this is it. Change comes from within. It takes work. Make the decision to *start* and you’ll be ahead of 90% of people who will be miserable complainers forever.”

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

That’s why we have this place. SICK OF THE FAKE NEWS MEDIA. If they can’t tell the whole truth, we will FIX IT.

michaelh

TRUTH!!!

michaelh

Check, check, check, check. Have to skip on public office for now, but I am engaged 😉

mandy

“Hungary Offering $35,000, Lifetime Tax Exemption For Having Lots Of Children
Faced with a declining birth rate and an unwilling to fill population shortfalls with immigrants like some of its European neighbors, Hungary has rolled out a seven-point “Family Protection Action Plan” which showers boatloads of cash, loan assistance and tax breaks to couples who agree to crank out lots of Hungarian children.
For starters, the state is offering $35,000 to couples who get married and have at least three children. Specifically, women under 40 who are getting married for the first time will receive an interest-free, general-purpose loan of $35,000. Upon the birth of the couple’s first and second children, loan payments will be suspended for three years each – with 1/3 of the principal paid off after the second child. After the third child is born, the debt will be wiped out.
Couples with two or more children can also use their loans for the purchase of an existing property – but it gets better. ”
more at the link:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-27/hungary-offering-35000-lifetime-tax-exemption-having-lots-children

mandy

Russia is doing some similar things as well.

singingsoul1

Germany has the same gives money for children and has all kind of programs but is has not helped German families they are still behind the curve having children. The new immigrants to Germany take advantage of the program and have plenty of kids.

Deplorable Patriot

“Crank out” is a rather nasty way to slam big families. TBH, I think a lot of our social pathologies come from children who don’t have to share the limelight or are the sole object of overly competitive parents’ attention. Being the oldest of five, I have no problem saying that even if God has not dropped a man I can actually see myself with in my lap yet.

andyocoregon

There are too many children being cranked out by illegal aliens and ghetto dwellers. More people, more problems. IMO, poor people of all races need to cut back on having large families. Our prisons are overflowing and our cities are over populated. Just look around.

phoenixRising

Has zeroHedge dot com closed its comment section ?

NebraskaFilly

Perhaps it has something to do with allowing cookies? Just a thought….I am not seeing a comment section at all…..maybe Brave is blocking the 3rd-party cookies on my LT?
“How To Disable Cookies:
Be forwarned: disabling cookies will render you unable to login to Zero Hedge, and as such, you’ll not be able to comment, chat, or generally interact with other users.
To disable cookies on your browser, the good people at All About Cookies have put together the following information:”

andyocoregon

Once again Mick Mulvaney has to set Chrissy Wallace straight on Fox News Sunday. Despite Wallace’s best efforts to paint President Trump as a racist, Mick Mulvaney isn’t having it. Wallace needs to leave Fox News and get a job with CNN or MSDNC. He would fit in well with those Fake News outlets.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

RED DIAPER CHRISSY is RED DIAPER.

andyocoregon

Doesn’t Rush Limbaugh call them Red Diaper Doper Babies? LOL!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Maybe he does now, but I think it originated with Michael Savage.

andyocoregon

Yeah, I think you’re right. I haven’t listened to either in several years. I used to enjoy listening to both. May have to have the TV on less and the radio on more again.

Cuppa Covfefe

I rather expect he also personifies the contents of said red diaper 🙂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL!!!

Big T

And in other news, if you were to look for independent, unbiased information about a particular specialized topic, it would be sensible to consult with experts experienced in that field. So, if the topic were pest control and, in particular, rate and rodent infestations, you would likely consult with companies well-versed in this public health problem. How about The Okin Man?comment image
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/07/trump-was-right-orkin-lists-baltimore-as-one-of-most-rat-infested-us-cities/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=the-gateway-pundit&utm_campaign=dailyam&utm_content=weekend

phoenixRising

On point as usual Big T…………………………

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Some very good insight into seeing Perkins Coie as the foreign threat they are. They are a criminal organization, in my opinion – they have been committing ultimate LAWFARE against the United States – and they need to be SHUT DOWN and their ASSETS SEIZED.

Deplorable Patriot

I’m seriously wondering how many law firms are going to be exposed like this before it is all over.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Many of these international ones will have to pull back overseas, but they will also get the boot from Brazil and other places, too.
If Perkins Coie is linked to all the crimes that are about to be exposed – and I’m sure they are – there is not enough popcorn to go around.
There are others, too. Covington and Burling has been getting a lot of exposure through Eric Holder and Trisha Anderson. WilmerHale is tied to Mueller and Hillary Emailgate. And a few others have kept their names quiet, but that could all change if “mistakes are made”.
The inevitably failing attempts to take down Trump and his supporters and other deplorables inevitably lead to scrutiny.
But people on the other side are stupid. They always think that “one more crime” will fix things.
Buckle up.

B.b.S.s.Saint

I hope they trace them bat rastards all the way back to Seattle where they got their start and start draining the WA swamp!

Linda

This is interesting (the tweet by NoMoreLiberals, in case Twitter adds more):
https://twitter.com/NoMoreLiberals2/status/1155443701574975488?s=20

Linda

Another commenter mentioned that Perkins Coie is funding Kamala Harris’ campaign as well.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. Globalist law firms pushing globalist deceptions. RAID ‘EM.

Valerie Curren

comment image?w=640&h=716
hope the image above shows…it’s from this post:
https://specialconnections.wordpress.com/2018/08/16/perkins-coie-collusion-connections/

Valerie Curren

This extremely thorough work by Ya’acov Apelbaum deserves intense scrutiny:
https://apelbaum.wordpress.com/2018/03/17/the-mechanics-of-deception/
Perkins Coie gets 8 mentions between the post & comments. There is Huge Info about so many aspects of the Coup Attempt, dossier, Ukraine, many players, techniques to unearth info, etc…Majorly important read!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Oh, this is a great article! Yes – amazing stuff.
And all worth it, just for these mug shots!comment image

Valerie Curren

Boom! 🙂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Actually, I do need to review this. The second time helped a lot – the third time should really make some things click!

Valerie Curren

Yes new names, companies, & countries keep jumping out…Can’t keep up with all the winning as Flep likes to say!

Gail Combs

“The political law practice of Perkins Coie was started in 1981 under the leadership of Bob Bauer, who went on to become the White House Counsel to President Barack Obama.”
The Democratic Law Firm Behind the Russian Collusion Narrative
How a high-powered practice contracted oppo-research on Trump—and then pushed a hack story.
By Scott Ritter • October 31, 2017
An old article but with good background info.
(I wish I could read the article Wolfie links to. Maybe later when Hubby is asleep.)

fleporeblog

News roundup has been posted if interested.

phoenixRising

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duchess01

#RT #news
Siberian Maldives: Blue lake beside power plant becomes Instagram sensation

kalbokalbs

^^^ Computer animation?
Was fortunate to visit the Maldives in 2008 for ten days. Logistics planning for USN. Landed in Male. Puddle jumper flight south to Addu. Incredibly beautiful. Stunning, actually.
Have visited many islands over the years, but the Maldives is in a class of its own.
Only downside, Maldives is a Muslim country.

duchess01

Awww…what a shame!

daughnworks247

Time for the Presbyterians to take over the Maldives.

pgroup

[snort]

kalbokalbs

Huge leap forward for folks in Maldives!

Sue Mcdonald

I am not an eloquent speaker ,in fact I think I sound most of the time like a country bumpkin. That being said I find it very hard to put my thoughts on the JE pedo web into words, is everything I believed all a lie? From my church right on down to products I’ve bought for years? It really bothers me most that all of this has been in the open all these years but I did not see nor understand any of it. Am I culpable? The very thought of what has been done to children and young people all these years is weighing very heavy on my heart.it angers me that these evil people see us as less then nothing to use us and our children as fodder for there perversions. I have bought products over the years without knowing that they were involved in this wickedness. No wonder Q says that most people would end up in mental hospitals .I see the symbols everywhere now that I know what I’m looking for.coffee,cars, soaps, perfumes ,all right in our faces.

andyocoregon

You must not belong to the Catholic Church or you’d realize they are one of the largest promoters of pedophilia in the world.

Sue Mcdonald

Ive never been a member of that church ,grew up in non denomination church out in the country. Was a member of the church of christ at one time ,when we had a very young preacher who started doing things i believed were not in line with the bible i left..my aunt and uncle come by the house now for communion and bible reading with me since i have health issues these days.

singingsoul1

Sue Mcdonald
About 15 years ago several pastors told a group and myself the future will be the home church. There will be a spiritual revival and the structure of the hierarchy in church will crumble. Sadly the process is slow but I see it. People are awake and see the depravity and abuse of the church.I am not speaking of a specific church just general. This has been known to monks for years.
Home church is good as long as the Bible is the center of teaching.

Sadie Slays

At least you are able to see it now, and can use this knowledge to protect your loved ones as much as possible. The red pill is a bitter one to swallow, and I suspect that most people who have taken it have had similar thoughts to yours. You’re not alone.

B.b.S.s.Saint

Hello Sadie, I appreciate your insights and encouragements. It is a startling feeling when your eyes are opened and you realize your whole life has been smoke and mirrors. I truly believe those Matrix movies were truth in many ways. Now to keep walking out and looking out for those ladies in red dresses…

TheseTruths

You are not culpable. Your heart is in the right place, and you have not supported the evil or the evildoers.
It can be very difficult to avoid all corporations, manufacturers, and individual products made by those people. And I think so few in the general public are aware of what is going on that a few of us boycotting their products would not make a bit of difference.
Some companies who don’t stand for the 2nd Amendment, for example, have taken a revenue hit from boycotts; but I don’t think the number of people who are aware of corporate symbology is big enough to make a difference with a boycott. I think the fight has to take place on a different level, which is what Pres. Trump and others are doing. Of course, not buying products when you think they are part of a larger evil would never be the wrong thing to do.

daughnworks247

Sue, you’re not alone in your eloquent summation.
We’re all surprised.
None of us ever knew it was this bad.

kea

I don’t do FB but I think daughn you said your part of some FB groups and maybe anyone else might want to take a look. She’s being blocked by youtube of course.

Sue Mcdonald

Hi Kea,are you talking to me? I havnt been on FB in ages due to being in FB jail for my posts on Q a year ago.that and my mom drives me bonkers with family gossip that I don’t really care one whit about😊

kea

my mom drives me bonkers with family gossip that I don’t really care one whit about—- LOL another reason why I don’t do FB.
FB jail wow. I’m sure I’ll be in twitter jail soon. (yeah?!?!?!)
But I was just putting it out there that she has a FB group if people wanted to check it out. Just was giving a heads up because her videos keep getting blocked now.

Sue Mcdonald

Oh…well I will have to check that out then.thanks!

Sue Mcdonald

The older my mom gets the more inappropriate she is lol. Trying to talk to her about family on FB is useless.if I had talked smack about family when younger she would tore me a new one,sigh

andyocoregon

This lady has it all down correctly. And she made that 18 minute video with no teleprompter or notes that I could see. Sounds as thought it all came straight from her heart. Very genuine.

phoenixRising

She’s outstanding………………………
She’s hitting every point of importance, as far as I am concerned.

kea

Yes that’s what I like as well. She explained in one a while back why she became a Trump fan and she went and protested when Florida was doing that funky ‘recount’.

daughnworks247

She hit it out of the park.

CoffeeBreak

Great video. I enjoyed listening to her. She’d make a great local representative. I hope she’ll do it when the time’s right for her. Thanks for sharing.

kea

I was thinking the same thing. We need more people like her in gov.

trumpismine

Just hearing someone with common sense is so refreshing some days. Sharp lady.

kea

Fully agree. I mean its a long video but I just kept nodding my head the entire time.

trumpismine

Same here. I would like to listen to this lady making just a normal conversation.

kea

Its a nice story:
Arkansas Family Buys All Shoes at Fort Smith Payless Before It Shutters to Donate to Community Members in Need
https://www.southernliving.com/news/alma-arkansas-payless-shoes-news

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Pelosi Lectures Trump on Attacking Cummings on Poverty In Baltimore – from FIVE STAR HOTEL!
https://share.par.pw/post/41c10658419740b8b3cb05a6f8af05f5

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kea

LOL and now the O’s are getting in on it. Of course they are.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Maybe the next Democrat convention should be held in SICILY!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Easy flight from KENYA for the Obamas!

Cuppa Covfefe

Maybe somewhere a little warmer…like HELL!!! For that’s where their real “manager” lives,,,
And they can whine about local warming…

andyocoregon

It really pisses me off our federal taxes are paying for her European trip………again.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. They’re CRIMINALS. GRIFTERS.

Teagan

Andy, you bring up a point regarding these junket trips that I would dearly love to know..
Who has the authority to plan/make these trips?
Do they need sign/off approvals? By whom?
Is there an annual budget limitation on these trips?
Do they have unlimited funds for 5 star hotels/dining/ sight seeing?
Family members/ staff allowed and paid for?
Is there financial accountability or audit for money charged to the tax payers?
Obviously, current occupier of House Speaker’s chair has total control of participants…a reward or bribe…is there no control of that, either.
I’ve never noticed Senator Mcconnell, for example, lead a junket trip…actually only Pelosi seems to lead them.
I think many Americans would like accountability by our “public servants,”

pgroup

Separation of powers – they make their own rules and the only oversight is the ballot box.

CoffeeBreak

LOL @Twitler.

Deplorable Patriot

3528
New: Title TBD
Q
!!mG7VJxZNCI
28 Jul 2019 – 3:00:25 PM

DRAIN THE SWAMP!
Q

realsauce

hmmm…Ratcliff, interesting

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FORECAST: MOAR WINNING

Linda

Looks like it’s official:

Deplorable Patriot

3529
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!!mG7VJxZNCI
28 Jul 2019 – 3:11:59 PM
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/john-ratcliffe-ag-william-barr-will-deliver-justice-to-any-obama-officials-who-committed-crimes
While Congress is away….
The month of AUGUST is traditionally a really HOT month.
Nature is unpredictable.
Q

Deplorable Patriot

Thanks. i have a heat maggot in the head today.

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Ratcliffe:
“Now the things that Bob Mueller said he didn’t know about and his team clearly didn’t look at, those are things that would be fair for Bill Barr and the Department of Justice to look at. Because we know that things happened in the Obama administration that haven’t been answered. There’s been no accountability for that yet,” Ratcliffe said.

I would go beyond that. I believe there is EVEN MORE that is FAIR GAME for Barr and Durham.
I believe there are clearly VARIOUS THINGS that the Mueller team DID look at or do, but….
– they actually HID or DESTROYED those things, like text messages
– they misinterpreted those things, like Russian spies – possibly INTENTIONALLY
– they executed BAD PROSECUTIONS on those things, like Flynn and others
– they even committed CRIMES, such as ATTEMPTING TO SUBORN PERJURY

So – I think the WHOLE SHEBANG is open for questioning.

andyocoregon

And here I always thought willful destruction of evidence was illegal. But, I suppose Hillary set the precedent to make that a non-crime.

B.b.S.s.Saint

What’s with the packet of information that was delivered to Nunes? Anymore on that?

ozzytrumpster

Wtf? Australia and New Zealand are red in that slave map?

gil00

Thats wierd. I wonder the criteria?

ozzytrumpster

We may have got lumped in with the Asia pacific.

ozzytrumpster

Yeah, I was thinking where’s MY slaves

Rodney Short

You rang???

ozzytrumpster

Youis sitting in the corner of the branch nearest the trunk with you’re feet up. Not that I don’t appreciate the offer but if I’m gonna feed someone they gonna clean. And cook. Minimum

Rodney Short

I will be back to 100% very soon.
Did I mention I am an excellent cook?

ozzytrumpster

Ok. You’re in. No wages but a roof over your head and all you can eat. Free wi fi…..
Hell , I might kick the useless 16 yr old to the kerb.
Now for a cleaner with ocd and we are set

Rodney Short

Wi Fi ? What a deal.

realsauce

This whole Baltimore/Cummings frenzy is soooo classic PDJT tactical twitter miss direction….
….as we all know, something wicked this way comes for the Washington Deep State, then the World.

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mandy

“Baltimore’s Current Carnival of Murder Can Be Timed Precisely To The Freddie Gray Riots”comment image
“Here is the rolling average of homicides per previous 365 days. The Red Dot represents Freddie Gray Day, April 27, 2015 when Black Lives Matter rioted, the mayor said they need their space, and the cops semi-permanently retreated to the donut shop.”
https://vdare.com/posts/baltimore-s-current-carnival-of-murder-can-be-timed-precisely-to-the-freddie-gray-riots

mandy

In the above quote, Sailer provides this link, which is to the researcher whose chart is included in the post.
https://epidemiological.net/2017/11/16/a-quick-geographical-analysis-of-homicides-in-baltimore-before-and-during-the-current-homicide-epidemic/

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Look at the weird drop leading into Obama, and then the ramp-up at the end when they wanted it to go nuts.
Something is up there. WHAT is it?

GA/FL

You are so right. Ø is/was a crime catalyst.

Teagan

Ferguson! Don’t forget Holder’s part in the crime catalyst, either.

mollypitcher5

Found this at the site where the graph came from. Has nothing to with anything but curious. I looked all over and can’t find when he came to US. Had to be very recently.
https://vdare.com/posts/bowie-teen-african-arrested-in-maryland-for-killing-sierra-leonean-politician-father
“Bowie Teen”—African Arrested In Maryland For Killing Sierra Leonean Politician Father
The MSM headline, courtesy WJLA, in the case of Barba Koroma, 17,above, being arrested for killing his father, also called Barba Koroma, 62, deceased, says Bowie teen arrested, charged in murder of father at Prince George’s County park, ABC, July 27th 2019.
Reuters in July of last year: “Corruption under former Sierra Leone President Ernest Koroma who stepped down in April took the economy to the brink of collapse, a report commissioned by his successor, President Julius Maada Bio, said on Wednesday.”

trumpismine

So sad what the leftless has done to Baltimore. My father returning from WWII from Europe to the family farm in Ky. after his father died and the family started to migrate to the cities ( my mother told me) Dad had a buddy from his unit that invited him to Baltimore and he almost went.
Then he met mom and they eventually moved to Cincy.
Baltimore was once a nice place. sigh…

Teagan

Spent some time in the Johns Hopkins Hospital area in the mid-60’s…lovely, safe city then. I felt no sense of fear and took public transportation into town to take care of business frequently.
Twenty years later attended several hospital-related conferences in the Inner Harbor area…same delightful experience and marveling about the story of how it was transformed because of the vision of one individual.
It makes me so sad to see the same thing happening to Seattle, San Francisco, LA and soon Portland. Killing the Golden Goose…such short=sightedness.

MAGA Mom

Disclaimer: I am not posting this trying to be like “she who must be named” (a reference back to a ’16 OT poster) by posting prophecy. I am not that “into” prophecy and prophecy/dream interpretation, even Biblical prophecies. However, I found this interesting and thought I would share.
One thing that caught my attention is the references to Cruz and his donation totals from Wall St. a time of the original video.

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realsauce

sweet….17 stars even. And Ohio was the 17th state (sadly had to look it up)….
…way, to go, O hio

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Well DARN, good old Qhio.

trumpismine

Hey that might catch on. Maybe some wolf smart entrepreneur will make some hats or tee shirts with that slogan on it at the Trump rally in Cincinnati!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Hope somebody does. That would be very cool if they showed up at the rally!
Sadly, it can’t be me – I have to keep ALL MONEY AWAY from this site to protect it. Any interaction with money presents a risk – a weakness – a way to take us down.
But YES….
DO IT – QHIO

Deplorable Patriot

So, this weekend, the Missouri Attorney General and the Archdiocese released the full list of 65 names of priests CREDIBLY accused of sexual abuse of minors. It hasn’t changed since the last time it was released a few years ago, other than a few more of them are dead, and there is no mention of who went to prison in the reporting, but several of them did thanks to Archbishop John May back in the 80s.
Anyway, our pastor gave the homily this morning with another retired priest saying Mass (GREAT priest), and after going through all the talk about prayer since St. Luke’s version of the Our Father was the gospel reading, the pastor apologized. Again. I’ve heard this apology off and on for YEARS from any number of priests. And when it comes to children, this particular priest did nothing wrong. He also apologized to all the young people that they had to hear about it.
But the highlight of Mass…I got to sing my favorite hymn. It’s sort of the parish theme song, too. Here is the octavo version that we use on special occasions. The Cathedral groups used to sing it at ordinations. In the hymnal, though, it’s only the first and third verses and no descant. The tune is one of Gustav Holst’s from the Jupiter section of The Planets.

Deplorable Patriot

But the most important thing Monsignor said this morning, though, was now is the time to fight for the faith. He was rather impassioned about it, too.

mandy

He’s right…

mandy

beautiful!

andyocoregon

Did he hear childrens’ confessions before or after Mass?

Deplorable Patriot

Confessions are before the Saturday Mass and are currently being heard in a room with a glass wall where everyone can see what is going on.

andyocoregon

It’s not what happens during and inside the booth , it’s what happens afterwards when the priest begins grooming the child who confesses to him he or she had “impure thoughts”. That’s the Catholic catch-all sin kind of like the police who use “disorderly conduct” to go after innocent citizens they want to screw over.

Deplorable Patriot

This particular priest is not into children in that way. Other men…that’s another story, but all speculation at this point. And in THAT parish, the people are highly educated professionals, movers and shakers who would have no compunction about turning him in. He knows he can’t get away with that crap in that place. That is also part of it. Knowing which parents are gullible. Not in this particular place.

andyocoregon

Unless you’re with this priest 24×7, you have no idea what goes on behind closed doors or in out of town motels.

Deplorable Patriot

Ummm…yeah. STL is a pretty big small town. The degrees of separation are barely a two. More gets out than you would imagine. Somebody married to an old family friend confirmed some stuff to me about this guy. His eye is not for tender flesh.

Deplorable Patriot

The other thing about this particular priest, I am not really a fan on a number of levels. I really do not care for him as a person. However, he is serious about the faith and does things by the book. he does keep tabs on what’s going on with just about everyone in crisis, my own family included. And then there’s his dog. The dog is far more popular than the priest is.

andyocoregon

So you’re judging him by rumor and inuendo. There were many rumors about various priests in our parish when I was a kid, but to my knowledge none of them were disciplined. They were all eventually transferred to other parishes out of state since that’s what the Catholic Church routinely did. I don’t know if the Church still does that or not since I haven’t been involved with it since I was a teenager.

Cuppa Covfefe

Andy, lighten up. All that’s left of that axe you’re grinding is gonna be stump.

Deplorable Patriot

Since I can’t reply to the actual post you made about the pastor, I’m judging him by the way he treats the music program, and the way he presents himself. I will give the man credit for having good willpower as he is a recovering addict of more than one sort. (Not sex)

redlegleader68

Andy, just a hint: Give. It. Up.
We get where you’re coming from. Everyone around the world has problems.
Pray for your own forgiveness … God’s in charge of the rest.
Never forget this: WWG1WGAL.
Something in there about Teamwork. Just sayin’ … 😉

andyocoregon

Enter a couple of pious holier-than-thou types who cannot handle truths about the Catholic Church. One would think they never heard of pedophile priests and the sex scandals that have rocked that institution for decades. Amazing.

andyocoregon

And I will continue to criticize the Catholic Church and any other religious institution or educational system that allows and enables the systematic sexual assaults on underage children.
So long as the Catholic Church requires children to confess their sins to an unmarried priest who is not allowed to have sex, a perfectly normal adult activity, I’ll continue to speak out against that Back Page equivalent.

andyocoregon

@thinkthinkthink
I don’t see your response you are referring to. Where was it? If it was a previous page, you need to mention that. Otherwise it’s confusing. Can’t read your mind.
And I don’t think I misread or misunderstood anything.
With that, I’m done with this thread.

nikkichico7

This is a beautiful hymn DP. I’ve heard the hymn “I Vow to thee my country” it sounds similar but I love this hymn.
Gustav Holst The Planets/Jupiter was used by my older son’s concert band at a competition, they scored well with it and my son loved Holst to bits.
Gorgeous … ❤️

Deplorable Patriot

If God ever drops the right guy in my lap [Sign of the Cross] O God Beyond All Praising will be the recessional. It’s a great hymn.

nikkichico7

That will be lovely, such a gorgeous hymn … goes right to your heart and soul. I hope you find the right guy, may the Lord God Almighty bless you with this …
better to have each one’s spiritual oars in the water paddling in the same direction, otherwise you go round in circles … it’s annoying
❤️
The Lord has someone for you … 😉❤️

trumpismine

Are you a Soprano Deplorable Patriot? Their part in the higher octaves was so beautiful, thanks for sharing.

Deplorable Patriot

Classically trained soprano with Queen of the Night notes and all. That would be me. The descant on O God Beyond All Praising is right in my wheelhouse.
Of course, to keep the wheelhouse, I have to keep the lower octaves in shape. They balance out the top and anchor them.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Something of a feel-good story.
There is a terrible word processing error, where “eating a sheriff” is substituted for something else, but… well, you’ll see….
https://www.theepochtimes.com/man-captures-photo-of-cop-reveals-officers-secret-rendezvous-on-the-side-of-a-road_3020115.html

evereleutheros

LOL, whatever happened to good ole proofreading.

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There’s an app for that!

drillerelite

HE had to do a double take? I had to do a triple take on what he said because that read really creepy at first 😯😆

B.b.S.s.Saint

Hey driller, yeah a triple take for sure. i expected blood and gore, but got sammich and companionship!

drillerelite

Yeah and whew, I didn’t have to lose my appetite and felt like having a sammich myself after reading it 😄

B.b.S.s.Saint

As they said on Duck Dynasty

coming up!

Deplorable Patriot

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mandy

What could it be, I wonder….

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Whatever it is, it’s part of David Axelrod’s strategy to put Mooch and Kenya Satan back in the White House.

singingsoul1

wolfmoon1776
“Whatever it is, it’s part of David Axelrod’s strategy to put Mooch and Kenya Satan back in the White House.”
________________________________________________
I do not see Mooch back in the WH. You might be right but I do not see it.
People will to reword Obama with another turn and Mooch made not enough friends with her big mouth.
She would be a disaster for our country she does not have the temperament to be President.
POTUS will be back in 2020 and will continue to 2024. I do believe he will be wounded in the spring not figuratively but politically. He will be good to go unless something happens to one of the family members he is protective off. Everyone is so out there so vulnerable .
Never let up to pray for POTUS his family and our country.

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AMEN! Prayer power on 11 !!!

Teagan

Michelle is much too lazy and now too spoiled to ever be a serious candidate…not to mention a lot of personal baggage.

Chris

Teagan,
I agree, they may try to run him, and it will all be fun and games until
someone actually kicks or back-hands him in the nuts on live tv .. then it’s back to all FUN !
( Mods feel free to delete this post )

Deplorable Patriot

Amazing that the Empire State Building didn’t turn to dust since it didn’t fall when a plane hit it. In fact, it’s still standing.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/empire-state-building-plane-crash
“An English day if I ever saw one.”
Those were some of the last words that Lieutenant Colonel William Franklin Smith Jr. said to his wife before accidentally piloting his B-25 Mitchell Bomber into the side of the New York City’s Empire State Building, killing 14 people in the process.
On a routine transport mission from Bedford Army Air Field to LaGuardia Airport, just before 9:40 a.m. on Saturday, July 28, 1945, Smith found himself lost in a heavy fog. With his view distorted, he was instructed to land at Newark Airport instead.
However, as he was flying slow and low to seek better visibility, he made a wrong turn to avoid the Chrysler Building and found himself staring at the Empire State Building, the city’s tallest building.
Upon crashing between the 78th and 80th floors of the building’s north side, the plane’s jet fuel exploded, filling the skyscraper with flames. One of the plane’s engines shot through the building to the other side, landing in sculptor Henry Hering’s penthouse across the street, destroying about $75,000 worth of art. Other pieces of the plane landed on the street and on top of nearby structures.
As a shocked crowd watched from the street, police, firemen, and rescue workers rushed to the scene to aid those trapped and injured in the building. One of the those injured was Elevator operator Betty Lou Oliver, who was working on the 80th floor when the plane struck

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Interesting outcome, isn’t it?
I’ve got MY popcorn.
I am led back to the same questions I had on 9/11/2001 and 9/12/2001, before one of our local clown gals, who was fingered to me by others and I didn’t listen, pooh-poohed all the questions that the scientists had.
Like I said, POPCORN.comment image

mandy

I’m a bit of a “truther” on 9/11, but honestly…I never fretted over it. Because, to me, it comes down to this.
There are only TWO options. Either you believe 19 guys with plane tickets and box cutters managed to bring down the towers, OR you believe that the gov’t was in some way complicit.
I don’t care WHICH view you take, both end the SAME WAY:
ABJECT FAILURE TO PROTECT THE NATION.
This means our government needs a COMPLETE OVERHAUL.
(or, in today’s vernacular, we have GOT to .. DRAIN THE SWAMP.) 😉

Cuppa Covfefe

It is VERY different, if it is an inside job as opposed to an outside job.
And the fact that the site remained hot FOR MONTHS after 9/11, and the way the buildings fell, including building 7 (no plane needed, right), show it was an inside job. And this has been confirmed by hundreds of scientists and demolitions experts. Buildings DO NOT normally fall into their own footprints.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Psychology figures into this every step of the way. The OUTCOME was designed for psychology – they had to insure that the BUILDINGS FELL. If the buildings stood, it would not be the proper psychology, of “America can be defeated”. It would be “America stands tall – you can hit us, but we stand tall.”
Oh, those commies.
I’m starting to see how the Clintons and the communists behind them also used psychology to gain buy-in beyond the already-compromised KGB-CIA elements. I believe that it started with TWA 800. That was the beginning of the “compromises” that they needed in FBI and the military. But they did not trust the NSA to compromise into being “set up” like the others, and THAT is why there was the “Ashcroft fight” with Mueller and Comey against the Bushies who would have given NSA the domestic monitoring which would have uncovered the larger communist conspiracy. That RISK of a sudden burst of understanding would not have occurred under President Gore, but under Bush it became a risk that they had to stop.
All making sense now.

Sadie Slays

Red stripe watch. I’m mad it took me this long to remember this one. I half-wonder if the reason Biden is using the three red stripe symbol in his current logo is to create a subliminal connection to the old Hussein logo.comment image
Bonus logo from Hussein’s Senate campaign. My gut reaction upon seeing it is that the red thingy reminded me of Islamic calligraphy.comment image

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OMG – hilarous! Especially the Islamic thing on a Socialist Star. OY VEY!
Ridiculous.
I used to echo Obama’s thing in the jab “journ=O=lists”, but it might have been better with the identity operator instead of the equal sign – as in “journ≡O≡lists”. And then there is “strict identity” – “journ≣O≣lists”, but that is probably only David Axelrod himself.

wheatietoo

I’m glad you brought up that O-logo, Sadie.
That’s not a sun in that logo…it’s a Moon.
The Moon figures prominently in Islam; their calendar is based on it and the crescent moon is a symbol of islam.
Muslims view the moon events like eclipses and such, as signals or harbingers of things to come.
The scimitar-shaped stripes could be seen as ‘rivers of blood’.
So muslims might see that logo as…a muslim moon rising over rivers of blood.
There is a reason that HusseinO had all the American Flags removed from that leased plane he used in 2008, for his trip to the ME and Europe.
He had the plane repainted with his O-logo featured prominently.
I think that was his signal to the muslim world, that he was not an apostate…and was still ‘with’ them.

Sadie Slays

Excellent interpretation.

phoenixRising
andyocoregon

Well, as for me….

piper567

oh, thanks andy,
tears in my eyes…
this is just SO brilliant!

phoenixRising
mandy

From Gab:
“Andrew TorbaVerified Account@a
‪We took “build your own app store” literally and did just that. ‬
‪Almost ready. 🙂 ‬”
This could be GREAT! Remember those apps designed to help drivers AVOID dangerous parts of various cities? I seem to recall that those got tossed … because they hurt the feewings of the creators of those dangerous parts of various cities.
Maybe someone can design those again, and offer through the gab store.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Torba is really thinking ahead. A FREEDOM app store.
Waiting to see if Tim Cook makes any further attacks on Gab, before I spend a dime on any more Apple products EVER.

phoenixRising

phoenixRising

Epstein did more than supply girls, blackmail………………. he was, still is C_A (why he was slapped on the wrist in FL), and involved in supply arms, etc. The recently placed him in a cell with another prisoner. That in and of itself tells you they don’t intend for this to go to trial.
oops………… forgot to mention this tweet is part of Watcher’s THREAD

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Putting him in a cell with somebody else…. wow.

gil00

Basic rules. All sex offenders are segregated and the high profile ones are in isolation. That they put him in a cell with a non sex offender, a murderer, is not normal.

andyocoregon
Deplorable Patriot

I came across this in the last couple weeks. MEGA is a group to handle with aesbestos gloves. I don’t want to say anything else.

phoenixRising

I ‘hear’ what you’re saying Dep Pat.
Have seen tons of same info by several citizen reporters…. came out when Epstein was arrested, but of course, lid was placed on it immediately…. which is why I repeat and repeat, Epstein will NEVER come to trial.
Thanks for the warning, though. It’s all going to come to the surface at some point………………… absolutely has to.

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Personally, I think he’ll never make it to trial because he’ll be dead. This guy is the intersection of so much bad stuff – so many organizations – so many criminals – so much money. EVERY ONE OF THEM wants to see him dead. Even the GOOD GUYS who were blackmailed would rather see him dead. Think about that. It’s a MINEFIELD.
I hope – HOPE that they bring him down – that it all comes out NOW – but I see his lawyers just working for ANYTHING to settle it or get him into a position where he can be eliminated.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I agree.
BTW, that site leaves me with many questions of “who is behind it”. Any call of “unite [the right, conservatives]” just strikes me as a potential “Kessler left” deception and herding operation.
But the fact of the matter is that there are criminals of all kinds, and we have to be fearless in rooting them out, no matter what they scream for cover. There are Italians in the mob and fighting the mob. There are Irish crooks and Irish revolutionaries and Irish cops and Irish priests – not all of whom are pedophiles, BTW. More like MOST who are not. And YES – there are Jewish crooks and Jewish saints.
All kinds of humans at both ends, with most of humanity being somewhere in between.
The lines will get fuzzy on a lot of these people. Let the truth come out, and then we can examine it. I tend to think of Epstein as a VICTIMIZER, and not all of his victims were girls. The girls had the SEX. Others had the MONEY. Epstein’s sweet deals sound like he leaned on people HARD.
Also note that victimization WITHIN a subculture or nationality or religious group or whatever is a very common thing. VERY common. It has a whole different dynamic which has echos of a HOSTAGE situation. “You can’t go to the cops – there’s no escape – we’re on your side – don’t be a traitor….”, etc.
Very nasty.
Note that while we have the same free speech here as on Gab, we don’t have the kind of toxic shills who make rational inquiry impossible. There are a few Jewish guys on Gab who have worked very hard to try to create reasoned discourse there, and I wish them well, but in one case, i simply had to stop following the guy because he spent his entire time engaging and debating the NASTIEST antisemites, and eventually their screeds just wore me down. They sounded worse than the old “Illinois Nazis” that the Blues Brothers made fun of.
The thing is, real Illinois Nazis are not funny at all – they’re reminiscent of the old German Nazis – just like Antifa are reminiscent of the old German communists. There is a certain weird type of self-delusion that they all have, which a perceptive mind can see very clearly leads to only one place – a society that turns on itself. It’s important to see the danger of ALL kinds of socialists.
BTW, I mentioned this the last time MEGA was brought up, but I think that “MEGA intercept” was disinformation designed to protect a technical leak. Just sayin’. Ask what MEGA would RATIONALLY be used for, and it’s primarily positive – image stuff – schmoozing – but also basic intelligence – keeping eyes on movers and shakers – with the primary goal being understanding support for Israel vs. falling for things like BDS. That’s what “MEGA is used for”, IMO.
Israel plays a very tricky game there – a very touchy one. The LEFT are a whole different danger from the RIGHT. Knowing who will fall for BDS and who won’t is very tricky, and just a modern incarnation of “who will fall for Yasser Arafat and the PLO and their Soviet backers”.
Sorry for the long rant, but “MEGA” triggered me in a good way!

phoenixRising

Well…………………. that didn’t take long.
Again, can’t criticize Israel without being anti-semitic………………….
Right? Thought so.
Censorship everywhere…. right Wolf ?
Y’all soldier on…………

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Oh, it’s a frigging minefield. We will have to pick our way through it very carefully, but we are not backing down to ANY dog-whistles. So it really bugs me when I see DP saying she saw something but didn’t post it because she’s afraid of being called an antisemite.
NOPE. This is a free speech site. Get this stuff posted and let’s have a look. Debate it!
MICROSCOPES OUT!!! No matter whose blue dress, off-shore accounts, or spy agency we’re looking at.
There are a lot of people, even on the right, who think “Mossad can do no wrong.” Just hit them with
“Well, maybe THEY are having the same problems as the CIA and FBI.”
Trust me – that puts a LUMP IN THEIR THROATS FAST.

BAM

👍 👍

NYGuy54

Well it’s because most people who do it ARE anti-semitic. So tread carefully. Say what you like but expect a response and it will be direct.

mandy

The Epstein ‘temple’ blue stripes have ALWAYS reminded me of those blue striped shawls the jewsih rabbis wear. That is the connection that I recognized the very FIRST time I saw images of the sicko ‘temple,’ and that was YEARS ago!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Absolutely. Yet there are other things that just seem WRONG as far as being a real Jewish temple.
I think you’ve hit on something very big here. Allow me to explain.
If it’s true that the guy is an occultist, THEN the pilfering and semi-bastardization of religious motifs makes sense – both as COVER and as desecration. The thing is, there are so many variants of satanism and the occult, that it’s very loose and free of standards. But just like perversion of Christian things is important in much of the satanism that we’re generally familiar with in the United States (just look at all the movies), I suspect that for a Jewish occultist, perversion and desecration of Jewish symbols would be very important.
The blue stripes – the prayer shawl – this is a very sacred emblem to Jews. Look at almost any modern synagogue and you are NOT going to see this motif externally, because it’s just “too much” – it’s like a giant flashing neon 500-foot day-glo pink cross. Yes, it’s “of the faith”, but it’s simply too much. It’s an “inside thing”, not an “outside thing”.
I mean, I’m pretty sure a synagogue made up like Epstein’s temple would take major heat anywhere else.
For lack of a better term, it’s “cringe-worthy”.
Know what I’m saying? If that is correct, then we should be able to find similar “borrowing + subtle desecration” for Christianity, Islam, and others. An “international occultist site” should have other things in it that desecrate other religions, too. Especially if they really did have sexual and bloody rites there.
So it may be worth looking for such things in those RC island photos.

mandy

Remember, Esptein had that frikken satan OWL on top, Wolf!
This was BEFORE the ‘gold dome’ got blown off, I guess the owl was blown away, too….
creeps me OUT.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Very symbolic! Think about that! Yes.

GA/FL

The design is taken from Aleppo Syrian bath houses and temples….the city and designs date back to Baal and Molech worship.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Now what is interesting about that MOSQUE is that it was constructed on what was a courtyard of a church, and before THAT during Greek times, it was an agora. (Wikipedia)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Mosque_of_Aleppo#History
“The site of the Great Mosque was once the agora of the Hellenistic period, which later became the garden for the Cathedral of Saint Helena during the Christian era of Roman rule in Syria.[6]”
The question in my mind – did the patterns transmit all the way through all that history? I’m thinking maybe they did. Maybe the agora patterns, particularly. Just speculating there.comment image

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Now – here is my thinking. What if Epstein consciously chose Islamic references from the Great Mosque, and blue striping as a Jewish motif, and perhaps other things, and then sticks his owl on TOP of all that?
I think it’s a domination symbol. But it’s subtle. So he invites all these people there, and many of them may not even realize it. “Oh, that’s nice!” In reality, it’s domination. And THAT fits with all the weird “war of symbols” stuff we’ve seen.

NYGuy54

Tallits come in all styles. Different colors too. Perhaps you don’t have a lot of experience with them. I have one with blue and grey. Doesn’t look like Epstein’s temple at all.
https://www.judaicawebstore.com/tallit-C92.aspx?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkrjt1r_Z4wIVjZ-fCh09UQ6HEAAYAyAAEgJSPvD_BwE

Sadie Slays

Here’s an interesting article from the “New York Times” of all places. It’s about how the President frequently talks to members of Congress, which is something most Presidents (in either party) don’t do. I had no idea he spent so much time talking to Congress. The NYT, of course, spins it as a bad thing, but I see it as a sign of good leadership.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/27/us/politics/trump-phone-congress.html

Deplorable Patriot

Reaching out and fostering relationships certainly can’t hurt. One of the reasons Reagan was so successful at getting the Democrats to go along with his agenda was having dinner with Tip O’Neil once a week. Trump does the same sort of thing with the phone calls and golf when he really needs to talk to any one member of Congress. It’s a sign of good leadership skills, especially since the president is not given a choice as to who he gets to work with in Congress.

phoenixRising

the author of this piece, Carl Hulse, should RE- READ, esp. history…. he’s old enough to know better. On the liars’ payroll I suspect.
LBJ talked to Congressional members 24/7……………….. he had, after all, once been Sen. Majority Whip.
Many presidents did the same.

drillerelite

Knew this story was a bunch of crap the moment I heard it the other day. Friggin Wall street journal no less.
https://amp.dailycaller.com/2019/07/28/wall-street-journal-correction-north-korea-nukes?__twitter_impression=true

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I don’t trust WSJ at all. Sometimes great, but sometimes toxic. Almost all of Fusion GPS got there by way of WSJ. RAISED EYEBROWS HERE.

drillerelite

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phoenixRising
phoenixRising

Again, forgot to mention that this is a THREAD………….
and I guess this has to be in LARGE FONT……………
POTUS NOMINATES RATCLIFFE NEW DNI TO REPLACE COATS

TheseTruths

Will the House really be gone? I’m so tired of hearing about their antics. Does this mean we’ll get a reprieve? I can’t wait. And things could get really juicy while they’re gone. (Maybe that’s been the plan all along.)

mollypitcher5

LOL, I must see the glass half empty . I envision them on every show and their stupid instagrams and hobnobbin with all their favorite communist activists which will then be on the news.
They never shut up!

kalbokalbs

Hot August Nights in Reno, NV is hot rods, muscle cars, great music…
Hot August Nights 2019 in DC…Congress six week unearned vacation…ideal timing for…
– Epstein papers released…
– Declas, texts, emails, FISAs released…
– Indictments, arrests…
Whatever happens, will be MOAR winning!

kea

Q is real! 😉

drillerelite

Heading to the dog park but I’ll leave with a Hell Yeah!!

Volgarian8301

So who is going to be the “acting” director during the interim?

drillerelite

Dan Bongino! 😆

Volgarian8301

That would be sweet!!

phoenixRising
mandy

um….what IS this?comment image

mandy

whoa that is bigger than I expected. Apologies for that.

mollypitcher5

No worries, it sounds like the info is big too! ?

michaelh

I can’t confirm the details on the current gen SWIFT software. Interesting for sure but can’t confirm it is an acct #…

mandy

andyocoregon

Joey Gibson echoes many of our sentiments exactly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3GznlU-TT4

pgroup

Joey has spoken at our little local tea party and is a friend of ours. I think he’s a bit wild but he walks with the Lord. If antifa gets declared a terrorist group, it will be because Joey “triggered” them in Portland. That’s when they exposed themselves and I believe it would not have happened without Joey street preaching.

ladypenquin

SD questions why there is a need to replace Coats if AG Barr has the ability to declassify everything…
“If AG Bill Barr holds all the granted executive office power to declassify information (he does)…. then why would replacing ODNI Dan Coats be necessary?”
I believe that SD harbors doubts about Barr, though I might be reading his previous comments wrong, but on this, IMO, regardless of whether Barr can run the entire show, etc. etc. Coats should be gone (never should have been chosen) – he’s a GOP-E, and perhaps he is part of the Deep State, though that isn’t clear. But he should not remain in a position where he isn’t totally supportive of POTUS.
Thoughts?

gil00

Its not necessarily about need. Timing of specific goals is what matters and Sen. Ratcliffe is what is needed.
Now, I would like to know when his next election would be if he does pass nomination. Will there be a special election? And importantly WHO will run in that seat? Will beto and castro drop their Pres bids to go after the seat?

Volgarian8301
gil00

Oh. Whoops. Guess its not good enough for beta, et al then.

Volgarian8301

Yeah, Beta’s not good enough to even try to fill those shoes

GA/FL

Bet President Trump and Congressman Ratcliffe and Governor Abbott have already discussed his successor and they have a doozy of a candidate!

pgroup

Candace Owens would be a good fit.

kalbokalbs

Coates has been and is an impediment to declas.
Coates is deep state, sabotaging progress President Trump’s efforts and shielding bad players in IC.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I will bet that Coates held up a lot of stuff “until certain things happened”. He probably counseled “slow walking” too much. Now that the impediments he counseled have happened, and proved worthless, Trump has likely been proven RIGHT, and Coates WRONG.
Out Coates goes for DELAY OF GAME.

ladypenquin

Agree. I see every reason for him to be gone.

Marica

Hey Lady P! Replacing Coats with Ratcliffe!!!! Ratcliffe knows what happened!!! TO me, that’s the most telling signal…Coats was a placeholder–Def. GOPE and tainted I feel pretty certain as he was in there too long…

ladypenquin

Yes, and I feel the same about Wray.

Marica

Yup!!! In VSG’s (and Q) time!!! Any thoughts on Wray replacement? When Wray gets replaced…I think that might the SIGNAL!!!

crossthread42

Don’t ask Me how I really feel..
*** DemoRat Liberals & every forsaking dern *knows better than Me* DUMB DEM CUCKS, that’s Diddling Kids here in My A.O. ..
Couldn’t move Me, So sold the property, to evict ME..
Home Will be demolished to make-way for a parking lot..
I outta just collect My things and toss a match, Let’it burn..
(But I cannot do that)..
Grrrr..comment image

crossthread42

I’m sorry Folks, just got off the horn with My “Former” Landlord, He threatened Me If I DO NOT “ play nice

mollypitcher5

What’s the hurry if they’re going to knock it down? I’d think that would be on some sort of schedule..like not tomorrow and not next week and most likely not next month. HE can’t play “nice” and be compassionate?

crossthread42

NO, See Folks here are “inter-connected”, (Hence My comments), I suspect a massive Pedo-Ring operates in this town, and, has been for a long time..
Anyway, YES, THEY, are on schedule , they want things DONE by the open of the up-coming school year..
I CANNOT do anything until I receive “legal” Doc, (eviction notice).. So I looked up the “contact” person, a one Kathy Cook, from Ding-Ding Boulder Co. Formerly from Commiefornia Oh boy..
My former Land Lord conveyed that they are IN-FACT SCARED of Me & What I might do..
OH my just
Let it burn comment image

mollypitcher5

I can say this, it’s a fact…my neighbor here in Ca had rented his place out..the woman trashed it, never paid rent ..all kinds of stuff BUT the slap in the ass was that she wwent to court and he had to pay HER…so a good renter with disabilities could probably get somewhere with going to court. my 2cents

crossthread42

Molly, it’s (best), if I can just buy time to find another home.. 90 Days out, with Docs..

BAM

Praying for a guardian angel for you and your wife.

Marica

We are lifting you up and storming the heavens for you and Mrs Crossthread!!! Lots of people praying hard for you guys!!! Don’t stop believing!!! Hugs!!

Gail Combs

Call him back and get him to again threaten you. RECORD THE CONVERSATION WITH AN OUTSIDER (friend) ALSO LISTENNING ON SPEAKER PHONE!!!!….
THEN SUE HIS ASS OFF!!!!

North Carolina recording law stipulates that it is a one-party consent state. In North Carolina, it is a criminal offense to use any device to record or share communications, whether they are wire, oral or electronic, without the consent of at least one person taking part in the communication. This means that in North Carolina, you are legally allowed to record a conversation with prior consent from one of the involved parties. N.C. Gen. Stat. Ann. § 15A-287 (West 2012)…
https://recordinglaw.com/united-states-recording-laws/one-party-consent-states/north-carolina-recording-laws/

https://www.justia.com/50-state-surveys/recording-phone-calls-and-conversations/

gil00

Just a miilisecond of this mans life. How much did he pay to buy her? How did Epstein find her in the first place?
“WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT 
“Nada Marcinkova, who now goes by Nadia, was one of Epstein’s victims as well as an enabler according to interviews with victims back in 2005 An incident report obtained by DailyMail.com reveals she was as young as 15 when she first began having sex with Epstein and other victims She was forced to have sex with at least three other women, two of whom were underage, while Epstein would watch and perform sex acts on himself’Epstein had purchased her from her family in Yugoslavia,’ wrote Detective Joseph Recarey after his interview with one victim ‘Epstein bragged he brought her into the United States to be his Yugoslavian sex slave,’ Detective Recarey said after speaking to that same victimShe was granted immunity as part of Epstein’s 2008 plea deal, despite never being identified as a person to criminally charge in the case 
The foreign-born model who many have identified as an accomplice in procuring underage girls for Jeffrey Epstein is just as much a victim of the serial pedophile, according to official reports. 
Incident reports from the Palm Beach Police Department’s 2005 investigation that were obtained by DailyMail.com claim that Epstein told at least one underage victim that Nada Marcinkova was his ‘Yugoslavian sex slave.’
Multiple girls also state that Epstein made them engage in sexual acts with Marcinkova, which eventually turned into threesomes with both himself and the model.
‘Epstein had purchased her from her family in Yugoslavia,’ wrote Detective Joseph Recarey after his interview with one victim. 
‘Epstein bragged he brought her into the United States to be his Yugoslavian sex slave.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7295159/Jeffrey-Epstein-purchased-assistant-Nadia-Marcinkova-child-family-teen-victim-told-cop.html

crossthread42

Not liking this, though acknowledge it..

GA/FL

About Ratcliffe:
“Ratcliffe was ranked as the most conservative Texas legislator in Congress and second most conservative legislator in the country.” – Wikipedia – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ratcliffe_(American_politician)
Ratcliffe Committee assignments
House Intelligence Committee
Strategic Technologies and Advanced Research Subcommittee
Intelligence and Modernization Readiness Subcommittee
House Judiciary Committee
Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism and Homeland Security (Ranking Member)
Subcommittee on Courts, Intellectual Property and the Internet
House Committee on Homeland Security
Subcommittee on Cybersecurity, Infrastructure Protection and Innovation
Subcommittee on Transportation and Maritime Security
House Ethics Committee
Ratcliffe seems to be on board with President Trump’s policies and the pursuit of corruption and swamp draining.

crossthread42

Mt introduction in sex/Human trafficking coming soon on My blog.. From a very Personal perspective..

redlegleader68

When it’s up, pls post a link!

realsauce

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Jul 28 2019 18:11:09 (EST)
https://static.wixstatic.com/ugd/65db76_d0731c7799784020a8c45a5615b8b3f3.pdf
Baltimore rec $1.8 BILLION from [HUSSEIN]’s American Recovery and Reinvestment Act?
Follow the money.
Follow the family.
Q

GA/FL

That’s 1800 million folks – fill a lot of dirty politicians pockets.

Nor'easter

“Q-Drop Cutie”… If you please?!!
😉

GA/FL

I don’t have that meme.

Nor'easter

My bad… Meant for PR.
(It’s my “placeholder” so I can scroll right to where the Q drops are)
😉

Deplorable Patriot

I get up to turn the brats and stir the carmelizing onions and….
New: Title TBD
Q
!!mG7VJxZNCI
28 Jul 2019 – 7:11:09 PM
https://static.wixstatic.com/ugd/65db76_d0731c7799784020a8c45a5615b8b3f3.pdf
Baltimore rec $1.8 BILLION from [HUSSEIN]’s American Recovery and Reinvestment Act?
Follow the money.
Follow the family.
Q

kea

Well now I’m hungry DP!!! LOL My Mom’s really getting into Q now by the way!!!

Deplorable Patriot

Mini golden potatoes and calico corn on the cob round out dinner.

kea

Oh that sounds good…. Enjoy! 🙂

realsauce

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Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 8442b9 No.7233932
Jul 28 2019 18:17:54 (EST)
Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 8442b9 No.7233832
Jul 28 2019 18:11:09 (EST)
https://static.wixstatic.com/ugd/65db76_d0731c7799784020a8c45a5615b8b3f3.pdf
Baltimore rec $1.8 BILLION from [HUSSEIN]’s American Recovery and Reinvestment Act?
Follow the money.
Follow the family.
Qcomment image
>>7233832
Those who take are offered more powerful positions within the party (controlled).
Italy is w/ POTUS.
Q

Deplorable Patriot

oops. Sorry. Didn’t realize you were close to a computer.

mollypitcher5

wow! Thank you

Deplorable Patriot

New: Title TBD
Q
!!mG7VJxZNCI
28 Jul 2019 – 7:17:54 PM
New: Title TBD
3530
Q
!!mG7VJxZNCI
28 Jul 2019 – 7:11:09 PM
https://static.wixstatic.com/ugd/65db76_d0731c7799784020a8c45a5615b8b3f3.pdf
Baltimore rec $1.8 BILLION from [HUSSEIN]’s American Recovery and Reinvestment Act?
Follow the money.
Follow the family.
Qcomment image
>>7233832
Those who take are offered more powerful positions within the party (controlled).
Italy is w/ POTUS.
Q

Concerned Virginian

An idea for a savvy internet wizard here at the Q Tree —
Make a video montage of the filth in Baltimore and then cut over to a video montage of the HOTEL DANIELI in Venice where Rep. CUMMINGS is staying with Pelosi’s group AND push it hard that the people of CUMMINGS’ DISTRICT are helping to pay for it by paying their taxes.
Then get the whole thing up on social media / Baltimore city social media / send to Candace Owens, etc.

mollypitcher5

A great idea. I’ve got expand my skillz and learn to do some of these things..

kea

Good idea but it would totally would get pulled on youtube mark my words.

Concerned Virginian

kea
Probably would get pulled from social media too but NOT before it’s seen.

mandy

So don’t put it on youtube – upload it to BitChute and post links to it at Gab and here and wherever else you travel online.
just a thought….

redlegleader68

I know this just might be counter intuitive, but if you ever go to Venice, please stop by the
Hotel Danieli. Yea, theoy’re there on our dime, but if you’re there on your dime you simply must go. Mrs. Redleg and I spent some time there and it remains my 3d favorite hotel in Italy. Sorry for the off topic comment, but I couldn’t resist.
https://www.marriott.com/hotels/travel/vcelc-hotel-danieli-a-luxury-collection-hotel-venice/

redlegleader68

Ack!!! theoy’re = They’re

Nor'easter

Maybe start by re-tweeting Brandon Dilly (from above; click on link to read thread):
https://twitter.com/realhublife/status/1155533438666940416

Teagan

There’s an accompanying photo of the plush bar in the hotel with the caption…”well, Nancy might be sending her twitters from here!” LOL

Nor'easter

Hah!!!

kea

The Candace Owens Show: Paul Joseph Watson

Linda

Hmmm. Could this be part of why POTUS is going after Cummings?
https://twitter.com/michaelbeatty3/status/1155500088443072513

Linda

Deplorable Patriot

Just thinking about all the inlets around the Chesapeake Bay…yeah. I would be really easy to putter a boat into the more rural areas where mail used to be delivered via the water.

Valerie Curren

In relation to the topic you posted, “In Louisiana, “A slave is one who is in the power of a master, to whom he belongs; the master may sell him, dispose of his person, his industry and his labor; he can do nothing, possess nothing, nor acquire anything but what belongs to his master. Civ. Code, Art. 35.””
http://studentdevos.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/no-longer-slaves-to-sin-daily-devotion-for-teens.png
That section really made me think a bit about what it is to be a Christian in willingly surrendering your life, your very self to the Lordship of Christ. Of course willing & chosen “slavery” is very different from forced involuntary slavery. As you shared from Romans 6:
“12 Do not let sin control the way you live; do not give in to sinful desires.
13 Do not let any part of your body become an instrument of evil to serve sin. Instead, give yourselves completely to God, for you were dead, but now you have new life. So use your whole body as an instrument to do what is right for the glory of God.
14 Sin is no longer your master, for you no longer live under the requirements of the law. Instead, you live under the freedom of God’s grace.
15 Well then, since God’s grace has set us free from the law, does that mean we can go on sinning? Of course not!
16 Don’t you realize that you become the slave of whatever you choose to obey? You can be a slave to sin, which leads to death, or you can choose to obey God, which leads to righteous living.
17 Thank God! Once you were slaves of sin, but now you wholeheartedly obey this teaching we have given you.
18 Now you are free from your slavery to sin, and you have become slaves to righteous living.”comment image
Another scripture comes to mind that could somewhat reflect our choice as Christians in our “slavery” to God: From Exodus 21, KJV
“2 If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing.
3 If he came in by himself, he shall go out by himself: if he were married, then his wife shall go out with him.
4 If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master’s, and he shall go out by himself.
5 And if the servant shall plainly say, I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free:
6 Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever.”comment image?cb=1384737821comment image
Other scriptural passages pertaining to slavery might be more applicable to the employer/employee rather than master/servant/slave relationship reminding us to conduct ourselves honorably on either/both sides of the equation…like this passage in Ephesians 6 NIV:
“5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.
9 And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.”
http://studentdevos.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/daily-bible-verse-devotional-for-teens-job-working-1024×512.png
And then there is this passage from I Corinthians 7 NIV which puts things into perspective:
“21 Were you a slave when you were called? Don’t let it trouble you—although if you can gain your freedom, do so. 22 For the one who was a slave when called to faith in the Lord is the Lord’s freed person; similarly, the one who was free when called is Christ’s slave. 23 You were bought at a price; do not become slaves of human beings. 24 Brothers and sisters, each person, as responsible to God, should remain in the situation they were in when God called them.”comment image
It’s an historic irony that passages about slavery were used to both justify that societal evil & to teach abolitionist thinking & eventually destroy that abomination!
Thanks for this interesting & provocative topic! Many Blessings!!!comment image

Valerie Curren

Oh, thanks…glad to add a bit to the discussion. I was thinking that we are all technically slaves, like scripture has said, to what/who-ever has mastered us. The only True Freedom that is ever to be found comes in & through Jesus Christ!

Deplorable Patriot

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Q
!!mG7VJxZNCI
28 Jul 2019 – 7:53:47 PM
The SWAMP runs deep.
DNC server(s) hold many answers.
SCARAMUCCI MODEL.
DNI & NSA
[AWAN]
[DWS]
[D_Congress]
House of Cards.
You didn’t think the plea deal was the end did you?
Q

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Wow. The AWANS and DWS made deals. WATER OFF THE TABLE? Something happened after that, evidently.

Deplorable Patriot

Not everything is broadcast.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Bet there is some FEAR AFOOT NOW.

kalbokalbs

Me thinks…Hot August Nights will be G R E A T !

Marica

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Crooked Debbie. Yup, the WATER came off the table, and she’s looking at long runs of HARD TIME.

Marica

Never will forget that cabinet meeting (I think)) when POTUS and VEEP BOTH…took the Water–Off the table!!! What a Great signal!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

BATMAN!!!

Marica

Yes!..Yes you are!!!! 🤣😎

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL!!!

ladypenquin

What are you referencing, Marica? I’m not familiar with the story.

Marica

Lady P– THey were signaling “Deals are OFF THE TABLE” NO DEALS!! You are ALL GOING TO JAIL!!! If I can find the clip.. I will bring it..But THat is BURNED in my mind!!! Pence’s face!!! WOW!!!

tessa50
realsauce

Her twitter account is still pretty active….id like to think she got no deal and goes down in flames

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I think you got that right. Either that or she’s pretending pretty hard right now.

Linda

I’d forgotten about this Q drop:

wheatietoo

One of the Anons posted that…’A member of Congress cannot be arrested while Congress is in session.’
If true, then August could mean some fireworks, no?
Anyone know if this is true?

bakocarl

Not answering your direct question, but I would bet that Congress will be in session with pro forma sessions during the recess so PTrump can make a huge batch of recess appointments . . . or am I missing something here?

bakocarl

can make s/b can’t make

wheatietoo

I don’t know, Carl…yeah, we’ll just have to wait and see.

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

Recess appointments pertain to Senate, not House. Senate approves personnel.

Gail Combs

“Anyone know if this is true?”
Yes it is true. Somewhere I have the link. I will look it up later and post.
I have been thinking that for a couple of days now when Q said August and I found out the DemonRats were off on Vacation AGAIN.

Linda

churchmouse

Thank you for that tweet.
The readers’ comments are most enlightening — and scary.
One comment links to this article with horrifying government findings. Excerpt follows, more at the link:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/pipeline-from-foster-care-to-child-sex-trafficking-highlighted-in-state-departments-report_2972229.html
‘The State Department’s annual report on human trafficking pinpointed the prevalence of foster care history among child sex trafficking victims in the United States.
‘While in many other countries, the report listed foster care among the tools used to protect victims of human trafficking, “in the United States, traffickers prey upon children in the foster care system,” it stated (pdf).
‘“Recent reports have consistently indicated that a large number of victims of child sex trafficking were at one time in the foster care system.”’

socaristobo

Your 15 minutes are up.

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andyocoregon

Let’s hope so! I was sick of seeing her on TV after her 1st appearance.

Marica

https://twitter.com/Jewel4Trump/status/1155654256189480965?s=20
FF!!! to change narrative? Anyone confirm?

wheatietoo

It’s confirmed, Marica…been watching this live coverage:
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There was a police scanner report of 50 people shot.

Marica

Thanks Wheatie!! I hate bringing fake news over.. but I wish this wasn’t real… this isn’t Devin Nunes district is it?😡

wheatietoo

I don’t know, Marica…hope it’s not Devin’s district.

Marica

Sounds like Cabal trying to spook him…If it’s His district…Early reports remind me of Vegas? Eyes on for Q drops….

wheatietoo

I just checked…it’s Not Devin Nunes’ district.
😀

Marica

Oh GOOD!!! Not that he scares easily BTW…😃

andyocoregon

It’s a real shame that once again innocent people attending an event they go to for fun and good food only to end up shot dead or seriously injured.
Gun free zones are dangerous!
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/shooting-gilroy-garlic-festival-san-francisco-bay-area-live-updates-today-2019-07-28/

para59r

Still watching this.. Lookner does news as news should be done. Just facts.. keeping viewer informed with no opinion no bias… Can well imagine what its like with the alphabet channels. BTW remembers Lookner from the Puget Sound Island crash quite some time ago. Interesting guy, sad subject.

kalbokalbs

Gun Free Zone…CA in general. Event web site specifically.says forbids weapons, knives.
SMH.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

If I was the event organizer, I would specifically WELCOME licensed and off-duty guns. Keep those “active Democrats” GONE!

Volgarian8301

Wonder what they are trying to deflect attention away from??Hate to be so skeptical when people are injured, but this will grab the newscycle and be on a continuous loop for the “gun control” agenda

Marica

Trump was winning the Baltimore narrative…?

wheatietoo

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1155651170414841856?s=20

wheatietoo

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Zoe Lofgren…she’s a Dem, right?

mollypitcher5

Don’t know if it’s applicable but that area like many in Ca has a lot of gangs

B.b.S.s.Saint

Wolf, I had posted this on marica’s site and Nor’easter asked me to post it here too. She thought you would like the motif. You are being protective….for those on your tree who are ill and need the extra over watchcomment image

Marica

Bren!!! This really is Wolfie!!! LOL!! Commies BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Weeper

Bren ❤️🙏

B.b.S.s.Saint

In the holy name of Jesus I pray: Father in heaven, Abba, hear my prayer. I ask this night that you watch over those that are ill, hurting, angry and need help in their situations. Forgive our sins, use us as your heart and hands to each other and work your life giving miracles. We thank you for your love, power, and Spirit in us. Help us to be lights to others in darkness. May Your will be done and Your truth prevail. In the name of Jesus, Amen

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

AMEN! (And that is one BIG DIRE WOLF by the way!!! o_O )
Yeah, sometimes the Wolf has to growl just a bit for the benefit of the monsters that only he can hear, over the hill in the next valley. They ain’t nice – believe me.
Q said 40:60, or maybe 60:40, as far as what is revealed-versus-not-revealed, but whatever it turns out to be, the other side is gonna try to pull stuff out of their 60 against our 40, EVERY step of the way. I’m gonna have to growl at shadows and howl at silences – it’s just part of the gig. Q said “not a game” – it’s a very fine line he’s treading by saying that. He has a duty to warn, but he has to be subtle and not induce fear. “Not a game” is about right.
A lot of New York cops are on the front lines right now, IMO. White hat FBI, too. And Barr bringing that USSS agent with him, eyes like radar, nobody sitting close to him – do the math. It’s a dangerous world out there until these people are in prison, and even after that, until the threat is completely put down.
Prayers for Q and all the White Hats – that has to be on our list. There are good guys and gals stepping up, and NOW is when they need to know we’re 1000% behind them.

B.b.S.s.Saint

Yes they do and we are. Operators are standing by!!!

Linda

Twitter isn’t subtle at all. I’m on PDJT’s page and who does Twitter want me to follow? Hillary Clinton, Paul Ryan, and Ellen deGeneres. No thanks, Twitter!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL! Yeah. Ahem – not looking to hang out with criminals, personally!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

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TheseTruths

Is the garlic festival false flag to take the attention off of what is coming? The evildoers have to be reading Q at the very least, and have other info as well. Or maybe the Dem campaigns need a boost and they think they can use gun control to get people riled up. Or is it a warning to someone to back off?
I’m seeing so many reports about human trafficking lately. It’s staggering how widespread it is. And its tentacles spread to the blackmailing of judges, politicians, and others in power. I’m sure they REALLY would like to stop what is coming.
Mueller and impeachment are done. Leftists are getting desperate. But this seems like an odd time to me. Why choose an event on a relatively uneventful Sunday when there is nothing specific (like DECLAS) going on?

bakocarl

This is a sneaky one. This is a real incident, cleverly planned to make people think it’s a false flag, later to be proven to be a real incident, totally demoralizing all those who called it a false flag, but with a major hidden purpose of setting up the next false flag so that people will think it’s a real incident and not recognize it as a false flag.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yeah, I need to look at this sucker. Nasty.

Sadie Slays

There’s a difference between “false flag” and “hoax.” A false flag can still be a “real incident” with real violence, injuries, and fatalities.

Sadie Slays

It was a bad week for Democrats in general.
1) Mueller’s disastrous performance puts an end to impeachment hopes for many.
2) Border wall victory.
3) The President’s Baltimore comments have moderate Democrats and the black community asking too many unwanted questions.
4) Epstein stuff in general.
Anons on the Q board began speculating right after the Mueller disaster that a false flag was right around the corner. Here we are again like clockwork. Democrats get to start off a brand new week’s news cycle with their go-to gun control arguments and hope that everyone forgets about Baltimore, Elijah Cummings, and Mueller’s testimony.

TheseTruths

Good info. I don’t mean to be callous, but my impression is that the effects of these big incidents are lessening over time. Sadly, some people are becoming used to them, and others are “woke” enough to know something else is up.

Sadie Slays

666 days between the 10/1/17 Las Vegas attack and the Gilroy shooting.
There’s your answer on why it had to be today.

TheseTruths

Very interesting.

TheseTruths

I’ve been watching Right Side’s coverage of the shooting. One woman said she looked the shooter (or one shooter) in the eye, and another said the police told her one shooter was dead and another was on the loose. The witnesses are talking openly and posting their experiences to social media. I don’t know if that latter report is true, but my point is that people with that kind of inside knowledge of an event like this have been known to die under mysterious circumstances later. It all depends on the narrative “they” want the public to believe. Any eyewitness who saw something different is in grave danger, IMO, and I think it’s best to keep quiet.

mollypitcher5

This presser is so bad..he might as well have said..some people did something. No details confirmed. One shooter, maybe two..no details on victims

daughnworks247

Kiss goodnight, fellow Treepers.
Congrats to ThinkThinkThink for a terrific thread today.
https://twitter.com/Bubbalouwie/status/1155682323309957120

daughnworks247

I believe the President has launched a big “Bat Signal”, and it’s time for us to take a cue from the boss.
We’re going to fight for our cities.
Time for Dem corruption to end.

Big T

One of the writers at Power Line is Paul Mirrengoff. He and I have crossed swords repeatedly in the comments section as he is pathologically afflicted with TDS. Even when he is complimenting a Trump policy or accomplishment he still throws in some ad hominem drivel that is almost knee-jerk to the hard core NT Kristolite crowd. Giving the devil his due, nonetheless, when the medication is working and it is an off-Trump topic, here is quite helpful as in this analysis of what is in store for the next 15 months.
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/07/on-impeachment-democrats-will-do-their-own-thing-in-their-own-time.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+powerlineblog%2Flivefeed+%28Power+Line%29