Dear KMAG: 20200110 Open Thread

Welcome to the OPEN THREAD!!!!!!!! January shall be known as “Expose the Sham in SHAMUARY!” Let the truth bombs fall. Expose the hypocrisy of the press, malinent of politicos, bureaucracy, and NGOs. 

Here are a few examples:

  1. The press and Dems insist our President was out of bounds for an “Assassination”. Well, it wasn’t an assassination when Holder and Obama did it.

2. For the past 3 days, the press and Dems have foamed at the mouth about curbing the President’s Power with a War Powers Resolution. They passed it. The media covered it. It means nothing. It’s toothless. All a big act for the media and to mislead the people. Besides that, most people think the War Powers Act is unconstitutional.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1215401433824026624

#3. The word of the day has been “Crossfire”, intended to mislead the public to believe a Ukrainian Airliner was shot down, with 176 dead, because of something the USA did. No.

Expose them all!!!!!!!!!!! They’re STONE COLD BUSTED!

Cuz you know what happens right?

Now for the housekeeping.

We don’t believe in political correctness at QTree. You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on. Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it. Important Guidelines are outlined here in the January 1st open thread, with an addendum on 20191110. In other words, please keep it SOMEWHAT civil. We have a new board – actually a new SITE – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation. NOT HERE. This board will remain a REFUGE for those who need civility, either some or all of the time.

SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!, “I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!

And remember….. it is time to drain the swamp in DC and LOCALLY. Please make a commitment in the new year to attend a LOCAL board meeting for your town or municipality or school board. Get involved and make your presence known. Put your local officials phone numbers in your cell phone and call them once a week (or more often).

“Our movement is about replacing a failed and corrupt political establishment with a new government controlled by you, the American People.”

Candidate Donald J Trump

Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
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phoenixrising37

THREAD – click tweet

Sadie Slays

Interesting.

piper567

Sadie, looks like hrc has caught “those eyes”!
thanks for this.

ForGodandCountry

Interdasting.
Funny how this coincides (timing) with a WaPo article (used by Sundunce to ridicule QAnon) that claims Huber has wrapped up all investigation of Clinton with no finding of criminality.

ozzytrumpster

@RichLowry: “Is the new standard really that a president of the United States can’t defend against attacks on U.S. personnel by a terror regime because the regime might accidentally shoot down an airliner taking off from one of its own airports?”

(H/T @ScottAdamsSays RT )

ForGodandCountry

Wut?? New standard??
According to who??
If dims, then LOL

Gail Combs

F,G&C
Why in Hades do you think the people criticizing Matt Gaetz went ballistic?
And who ever said it DID NOT CRITICIZE PRESIDENT TRUMP was full of SCHIFF!
This is the House & Senate Joint Resolution:
Senate version introduced by Hillary’s VP pick Kaine:
*

(8)Department of Defense officials have been warning for more than a year that the Trump Administration ‘‘maximum pressure campaign’’ against Iran, which has included economic, diplomatic and military pressure, is raising the risk of retaliation against United States troops and personnel. The cycle of escalating back-and-forth violence between Iran and its proxies and the United States and its allies have proven their warnings correct. <— [Maybe why briefing was not up to snuff; more sabotage?]
(9) The question of whether United States forces should be engaged in armed conflict against Iran should only be made following a full briefing to Congress and the American public of the issues at stake, a public debate in Congress, and a congressional vote as contemplated by the Constitution. The absence of such a deliberative approach is deeply unfair to members of the United States Armed Forces and other Americans whose lives are at risk in the event of hostilities between the United States and Iran….

singingsoul1

Where were these people when Obama indiscriminately killed people in many countries including Libya?
Paul, Goetz and the other guy from Utah where were they?
Goetz is my deepest disappointment.

ForGodandCountry

LOL
You can’t even spell his name correctly, much less carry his weight, his eloquence, or his class.

singingsoul1

You are right and I am happy 🙂

Gail Combs

Singingsoul is not a native English speaker. I wish I could write in HER language as well as she does in mine.
Despite three years of French and two of German plus a year in Germany, I can butcher both languages with the best of them!

Aubergine

Oh, for God’s sake. She is not a native English speller, and makes a great effort here, often correcting her own spelling. Don’t be rude. You can defend Gaetz if you want without that.

scott467

“LOL
You can’t even spell his name correctly, much less carry his weight, his eloquence, or his class.”
______________
Why turn to someone who has been fighting in the trenches WITH us, for a long time now, and just blast them?
What purpose does that serve?
What’s the objective?
Is it to silence people with whom you disagree?
And if so, is that a smart strategy?

ForGodandCountry

1. People went ballistic over a symbolic vote that has zero effect or meaning.
2. They did so without waits to hear his reasons for doing so.
3. The overwhelming majority of comments were vile (such as your wondering “if the deep state owns his balls”.
4. None of the commenters (both here and on Twatter) have done more for PDJT and the MAGA movement than Gaetz.
And
5. Because of #4, Gaetz has EARNED the right to vote however he likes on a insignificant and meaningless symbolic vote.

kalbokalbs

^^^ Five is out to lunch.
Save flaming reply for another time. OR, flame away.

scott467

“1. People went ballistic over a symbolic vote that has zero effect or meaning.”
_____________
By definition, symbolism has meaning, or it wouldn’t be… uh… symbolic. 😁

scott467

“5. Because of #4, Gaetz has EARNED the right to vote however he likes on a insignificant and meaningless symbolic vote.”
______________
He has the right to vote however he likes, on anything that is brought up for a vote, doesn’t he?
Just like we have the right to criticize or object to his vote if we disagree with him, right?

Hoofhearted

….such theories when dealing with individuals who claim to want change is called “harm reduction”. You have to rob a bank to support your drug habit so if your drugs are given to you, it won’t be necessary to rob banks……….It does not work!!

Aubergine

I publicly broke off my love affair with Matt Gaetz today on Twitter.
I hated to do it that way, but he doesn’t answer my calls!

wolfmoon1776

Soviet Iran-Co-Conspirator Democrats need 10 embassies threatened before they care.

phoenixrising37

Appears Some Dude has done it again…
Brian has a THREAD – click a tweet
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1215637828312403968

ozzytrumpster

Some dude is locked into his own narrative and hubris. Big fall coming

phoenixrising37

My sweet Momma used to say “Pride cometh before the fall”

michaelh

I have a good idea what we can do with that WaPo article.comment image

ozzytrumpster

Good idea. But stay where you are. Come here to oz brandishing that about and you might get lynched

michaelh

lol so true!

phoenixrising37

phoenixrising37

Above Brian says Carlos is NOT Thomas Wictor… I agree. Look at profile for Carlos.
*

Thomas Wictor is at *https://social.quodverum.com/@ThomasWic Be sure to remove *
I just clicked his addy and he ‘boosted’ an acc’t that says:
“.@IlhanMN@twitter.com hates this picture and she hates when people Retweet it
Let’s piss her off. RT”
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scott467

Wow, that is a serious case of turban-head.

scott467

Pretty sure that’s a dude now.
If that’s what wearing a turban did to his hair, imagine what it’s doing to his brain?

scott467

You know, Democrats are always stealing MAGA hats from Trump supporters.
Why hasn’t someone yanked that towel off Mullah Omar’s head in public?
Don’t steal it (that would be wrong), just hand it back to her.
And compliment her hair 👍

scott467

Sorry, his hair.
It’s going to take a few minutes to adjust to Omar’s probable tranny status.

phoenixrising37

It’s really sad, but that is what wearing those things on your head does to your hair… and it’s difficult to get the hair back to a healthy state, impossible if allowed to go to far… which appears to be IIhad’s case…

ForGodandCountry

The Sundunce article in question is nothing more than a Sundunce exercise in ridiculing QAnon people…
…and Sundunce uses a WaPo article(!) to do it.
Weak, pathetic, and sad.

ladypenquin

Without reading one word of any article, Washington Post being used as a source is a deal-breaker. No one knows the truth about anything yet…

Dora

TheseTruths

Wow, who didn’t see that coming? There are 13 candidates left:
Sen. Michael Bennet of Colorado
Former Vice President Joe Biden
Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg
Sen. Cory Booker of New Jersey
Former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg
Former Rep. John Delaney of Maryland
Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii
Sen. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota
Former Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick
Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont
Billionaire Tom Steyer
Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts
Tech entrepreneur Andrew Yang
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/01/10/dear-kmag-20200110-open-thread/#comments

ForGodandCountry
Dora

Pelosi: ‘McConnell Has Been Engaged in Tactics of Delay;’ Senate to Get Impeachment Articles Next Week
Pelosi began her letter by accusing McConnell of being the one who has been delaying the impeachment process:
“For weeks now, Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell has been engaged in tactics of delay in presenting transparency, disregard for the American people’s interest for a fair trial and dismissal of the facts.”
https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/pelosi-mcconnell-has-been-engaged-tactics-delay-senate-get-impeachment

ForGodandCountry

(yawn)
Standard Alinsky tactic….accuse others of doing what you are guilty of doing.

ForGodandCountry

More like everyone is throwing perfect pitches, Daughn. 😉

wolfmoon1776

“bUt DRuMpf iz DeEP sTAte cUZ NOthing iz haBBeninG!!!”
Have an underhand TOSS over the plate! 😀

ForGodandCountry

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phoenixrising37

My post just went to the bin ! HELP!

phoenixrising37

Thank you ma’m … photo prob did it 😉

Dora

Lock him up.

ForGodandCountry

The enemy within

Rodney Short

We The People’s House is full of snakes brought in by Ozero.
God help us all

phoenixrising37

Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic@social.quodverum.com
Now BIDEN is campaigning in California.
The Democrats are in massive trouble.
California is in play.
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/joe-biden-visits/2288054/
Joe Biden Visits Long Beach and Irvine
Former Vice President Joe Biden will return to Southern California Thursday in his campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination, touring the Gerald Desmond…
NBC Los Angeles

scott467

“Now BIDEN is campaigning in California.”
___________
😂
If he has to campaign in commiefournya… 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

phoenixrising37

Music to my ears!

ForGodandCountry

Interdasting.
Funny how this coincides (timing) with a WaPo article (used by Sundunce to ridicule QAnon) that claims Huber has wrapped up all investigation of Clinton with no finding of criminality.

GA/FL

Harry may also have to give up rank in Royal Marines.

What a mess.

ForGodandCountry

Sad….
….but not the first man, nor the last, to be ruined by a cheap piece of ass.
Total soy-boy beta male.
If anything, the “royal” family should be delighted and celebrating his leaving. Imagine the Queen putting out a public statement to that effect….
Good riddance and don’t let the door hit ya in your backside, sonny boy!

Rodney Short

You nailed it FG&C, I believe she was put in there to do exactly what shes accomplished.

Deplorable Patriot

Please, tell us how you REALLY feel.
Yes, like Henry VIII, he fell for a cheap…well, a woman not worthy of the name. Imagine how it makes the rest of us look.

Concerned Virginian

And I’m still of the opinion that a DNA test will prove that Prince Harry’s ONLY Royal blood comes from his mother, Princess Diana — who was descended from illegitimate sons of Charles II and James II.

Hoofhearted

….and whose baby is that? Maybe OB referred them to elite branch of Rent-a-Kid. Worked for him and big Mike.

scott467

“What a mess.”
_____________
If he had any real friends, they’d mock some sense into him.
That’s one of things friends are good for.
They wouldn’t let some Jenny-from-the-block tie a shoelace around his nuts and lead him around like a show poodle.
If he had friends, they would save him from that kind of humiliation.

ForGodandCountry

And THIS, right here, is perfect proof of why I have and will continue to say that Gov. Abbott should be the next President (46) after PDJT finishes his two terms in office.

phoenixrising37

FG&C…
When I saw that item, I thought of you, and the fact that you would sing Abbott’s praises (as you should)… so, I didn’t bother to 😉
But I will say that Gov Abbott is a great leader… and we need more like him.

ForGodandCountry

Very kind of you to say so, PR. And you’re right, we can never have too many like him.

mollypitcher5

Doesn’t it blow your mind that we all agree that Abbot is a great leader because he rejects the idea of refugee pollution and other common sense things. Things that pre Obamination most of the country (and also most of the pols, including Dims) would have agreed also

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

Luv my Gov!! 💞

Deplorable Patriot

May Gov. Abbott pay Mike Parsons a visit. MP is only governor because Greitens got run out of Jeff City on a rail. May he be primaried.

mollypitcher5

Echoing Pelosi’s belief …will the Dems make some more rules ? Please do let us all know how many are worth consequences?

ForGodandCountry

Kerry is a traitor, has been a traitor, and always will be a traitor to the USA.

Rodney Short

Hemp makes good rope,I say let Kerry be a test dummy for its strength.

Gail Combs

He is also a psychopath who enjoys trashing the US military.
JOHN KERRY’S SHIPMATES SPEAK OUT!

Teagan

Ironic that I just read Kerry and his wife (mainly his wife!!) have about1 Billion In assets. Just as the very wealthy get cancer and die (thinking Steve Jobs here) like a poor man…all the Kerry’s wealth may not keep him from being arrested and tried for high crimes against our nation.

para59r

All this talk from Kerry to Matt Gaetz and in between is simply paving the road for the next Iranian attack, while at the same time attempting to restrain the President from acting reciprocally.
Good luck with that. One of our President’s great strengths is his ability to act reciprocally and the Constitution supports him.

mollypitcher5

They better hurry deciding how many is enough….

ForGodandCountry

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Hoofhearted

…but I noticed no Americans on the passenger list for the Ukrainian Jet they shot down. And Justin can’t get his pussy hat on straight enough to be able to pay his NATO bill and expect anyone to support him. What’s he going to do…..slap the Iranians knuckles with plastic straws????????

phoenixrising37

ForGodandCountry

Why do people STILL wait in line for 24 hours to see Trump speak in year 3 of his presidency?
Simple.
For the same reasons the Greatest Generation stood in recruitment lines to go fight the Germans and a Japanese…comment image

Teagan

Plus, it’s fun…you just never know what he’s going to say next…9” Pencil Neck…LOL!

mollypitcher5

Ain’t that the truth?! It’s tiring to read or hear facts twisted or omitted 24/7. The projection is expected by now but I hate it.
This latest situation..the media has orchestrated the complete revision of what happened. Demoncrats have become pathological in their lying. They don’t even seem to have their own thoughts anymore. Party line all the way. Even when they speak…they usually surround themselves with others in lockstep..they take turns all saying the same thing.

Aubergine

I think there is more to it than what the people get from the rally. It’s the only way we have to GIVE BACK.
Think about it. We love Trump rallies, true, but camping out in the rain for days? In the bitter cold? Brutal.
We all know that if attendance falls off, the media will pounce. So thousands and thousands of people show up, to SUPPORT our VSG. It’s a small thing, but we know HE knows WWG1WGA.

Barb Meier

Yesterday, a lady said that people go to Trump rallies to thank him and that she heard people saying Thanks to POTUS during the rally. I think that’s wonderful.

phoenixrising37

Absolutely!

phoenixrising37

foxglovemeadows

I think she’s starting a new arm of the party on the down low. I read she is raising and funnelling money to players that would take out existing elected dems.

ForGodandCountry

This seems like a perfect spot to repost this…comment image

phoenixrising37

ForGodandCountry

Flush with cash from the CNN settlement.
Proof positive he got Nick and his parents to settle so he could get paid RATHER than go to trial to destroy CNN in a can’t lose lawsuit.
Sad.

phoenixrising37

iirc, this was pro bono

ForGodandCountry

I don’t think that is correct but I could be wrong.

phoenixrising37

I have done a little diggin’… # 1 Robert Barnes offered to represent other Covington boys pro bono, and is representing them. (that may be where I heard pro bono)
# 2 So far, I am reading Nick Sandmann’s parents HIRED LL Wood with Covington to get justice for their son. Can find nowhere so far that Wood worked pro bono. Wood is known to be good, and known to ask for extremely high amounts for clients. He did so for Sandmann, and that may be why his parents ‘hired’ someone immediately rather than go with some of those who like Barnes offered to do the work pro bono. Barnes is also referring to his clients as Covington Boys, refusing to release their names, saying that suing for invasion of privacy etc. means protection of their privacy while suing. Which makes complete sense.
Bottom line, I misspoke in stating Sandmann case was pro bono. Your memory is correct 😉

phoenixrising37

I guess Kerpen was one of the Covington lawyers working with LL Wood. Most cases of this kind, if they win, the lawyers get 1/3 of settlement. There are exceptions of course. If they lose, they get nothing. There are exceptions to this also.

ladypenquin

There are still others being sued by Sandman.

Deplorable Patriot

CNN doesn’t want discovery. The last thing they want is a smart lawyer reading through their files. The amount requested in the lawsuit was excessive and was bound to be brought down. Any good lawyer knows to take a deal that’s reasonable. What was offered was reasonable, and cheap for CNN to pay out and keep their paperwork out of the hands of a lawyer who would know what to do with it.
It is what it is.

Hoofhearted

and it sets precedence for other similar claims.

ForGodandCountry

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phoenixrising37

You’ll want to ck out the list

phoenixrising37

churchmouse

Portland should be interesting. Looking forward to his tweets about it. Thank goodness he’s so tall.

phoenixrising37

ForGodandCountry

If I was Gov. Abbott I’d hire him as my personal body guard.
The man shot a MOVING gunman in the HEAD from 20 yds away with just 1 shot. Bang. Over. Done.
Even Navy SEALS would like to be able to brag about possessing such skill, proven and tested in actual combat.

ForGodandCountry

….and I failed to mention…..with a pistol…..at 20 yards
Phenomenal skill.

wolfmoon1776

Any word on what weapon he was using?

phoenixrising37

Teagan

Only appropriate that this full Wolf moon photo was taken by a man named William Moon!

phoenixrising37

😉

Anonymoushorse

Sort of looks like a ‘Q’.

Deplorable Patriot

Moon? There’s a moon out there? Really? We’ve had enough rain to make the Meramec a traffic hazard again. And it’s only January.

gil00

Just bc I bet there’s people who like music here.
Neil Peart, the drummer from RUSH just died. Brain cancer.
https://news.yahoo.com/neil-peart-rush-drummer-dies-212443814.html

ForGodandCountry

OMG!!
I am destroyed to get this news. 😭😭😭
Rarely does anyone achieve such success and fame yet remain so gentle, humble, generous, and genuinely nice.
The world just lost the man who was arguably the greatest rock ‘n roll drummer of all time.

gil00

Lots of tributes going on. Mr Gil says he feels like crying. One of his top 10 babds. Apparently he had cancer fir 4 years and this is really why they retired.

ForGodandCountry

Tell Mr. Gil that Mr. FG&C is right there with him in sentiment and spirit.
This is a horrible loss.

gil00

I will. Its going to be happening much more in the next decade.

gil00

At least he was alive for the rock n roll hall of fame induction.

Rodney Short

Amen. Neil was the best in the industry.

rayzorbak

Tribute:

Rodney Short

Awesome…

rayzorbak

I had never really paid attention to this story in song…..
until I saw this video.

Deplorable Patriot

A lot of my friends posted about their sorrow over this.

Dora

socaristobo

80 million dollar lottery player

mollypitcher5

One of the suicide terrorists hired by Soleimani’s daughter?

Gail Combs

It occurs to me that Matt Gaetz might have gotten hoodwinked into signing that resolution. Was this a Psyops to take away his supporters???
We KNOW they have played sleight-of-hand before and we also know the Congress Critters generally do not actually read the bills. That is why they have staff.
I find it very… interesting… that I could not find the actual HOUSE VERSION and only the Senate version although I spent a lot of time on both Duck-Duck and Bing looking.
LOOK at what Matt Gaetz wrote:

Matt Gaetz

Verified account
@mattgaetz
Follow Follow @mattgaetz
MoreMatt Gaetz Retweeted The Columbia Bugle 🇺🇸
Throwback to my debate *against* the Resolution condemning @realDonaldTrump for his removal of troops from Syria.
I stood w @potus when @GOPLeader & others didn’t.
By contrast, yesterday’s Resolution I supported offered *zero* critique of Trump or his policies.
*

Yet the version I found had this:
HOUSE & Senate JOINTResolution:
Senate version introduced by Hillary’s VP pick Kaine:
*

(8)Department of Defense officials have been warning for more than a year that the Trump Administration ‘‘maximum pressure campaign’’ against Iran, which has included economic, diplomatic and military pressure, is raising the risk of retaliation against United States troops and personnel. The cycle of escalating back-and-forth violence between Iran and its proxies and the United States and its allies have proven their warnings correct.

⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️
Unless I a have gone completely nutz THAT is a critique of Trump or his policies.
So exactly WHAT does Matt think he voted on?
😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠
WHAT GAMES ARE THE DEMONRATS PLAYING!!!
😠 😠 😠 😠 😠 😠

kalbokalbs

NOTHING GOOD can come of Gaetz’ vote…
– NOT for Gaetz.
– NOT for President Trump.
– NOT for Republicans.
– NOT for America.
D-Rat Resolution is PURE political theater to promote D-Rats AND SLAM President Trump.
.
.
Yea, I know the resolution is NOT binding and legally meaningless.
BUT, the resolution IS MOAR D-RAT EVIL that three Rs signed onto. MCM and D-Rats lapping up getting one over on Gaetz and two other Rs. WTF?

para59r

If he’s worried about when Democrats take the Presidency he should not be. That should it come, is the signal for Civil War and a whole new era to follow.

Concerned Virginian

Almighty God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob; Father of Our Lord Jesus Christ; Creator of heaven and earth; Maker of all creatures; Protector of the innocent; Defender of the falsely accused:
We come now to beseech Thee, in Thy Mercy, to grant to the members of the United States Senate the wisdom and courage to acquit DONALD JOHN TRUMP, President of the United States, of the false accusations brought against him by those who would destroy him and his work through Impeachment.
We come now to beseech Thee to grant to those appointed to defend DONALD JOHN TRUMP in the Impeachment trial, wisdom and courage to so vigorously present the proofs of his innocence, that there is no doubt that he will be acquitted.
We come now to beseech Thee to unleash the sword of St. Michael the Archangel upon those who would destroy DONALD JOHN TRUMP, his Presidency, and his good work.
We ask in the Name of Thy Son, Jesus Christ, and Thy Will be done. Amen.

inquisicatz3

Amen

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

Amen.

Chris

Amen.

Ddanna

Amen

churchmouse

Here’s Dan Wooton, executive editor of The Sun, whom I mentioned up-thread. He said he gave H&M 10 days to comment on his article before he published it a few days ago. He said they made their public announcement shortly afterwards.
Good two-minute piece from him to talkRADIO’s Julia Hartley-Brewer:

More to follow on Wooton.

churchmouse

Dan Wooton from The Sun nails it on Harry and Meghan. I totally agree with him:

Two comments follow, which are also 100% spot on:

kea

Look how m treats her dogs. She dumped the one dog and the beagle had two broken back legs and was never seen again. It’s a freaking beagle! Just like mittens look how she treats her pets

churchmouse

Thank you for the information. Wow.
I didn’t know that.
I only follow them when big news breaks.

kea

No prob. So here’s what I know. She heard Ellen d was going to a pet shelter and Meg’s run to meet her and bump into her and Ellen asked if she’s getting a dog. So she got one. She dumped that older aka 7 year old dog and left it in canada. Aka it was a mutt so who cares. the beagle named guy ended up with two broken back legs somehow? This is a hound so who knows what happened. She supposedly took him with her to the uk but he was never seen again.

churchmouse

Good heavens. That is awful.
Thank you for the details, kea — much appreciated.

kea

No problem.

Sadie Slays

churchmouse

Dan Wootton from The Sun also wrote about vegans. I’ve included a comment to his tweet showing what goes on here now in the UK in January with regard to veg diets:

churchmouse

Yes.
I thought about the comment you made up-thread about vegans expecting hosts to change their menus just for them.

churchmouse

Thank you, friend. Make mine a gin and tonic, please. 🙂
Thank you for the update from PDJT on Laura Ingraham. He is so right.

mollypitcher5

I had 3..various degrees of vegan during Christmas . By New Years I was sick to death of the “oh I don’t eat that now” business. One of them was trying to explain and actually for real mentioned car farts..by then I just laid the feast and didn’t even attempt to make dishes without cheese, without butter or eggs but no eggs for that one.
But lemme say..all 3 of them would eat cookies made with the forbidden items and maybe “just a bite of cheesecake” lol…whatever.
Vegan terrorists!

mollypitcher5

supposed to be Cow farts..not car farts

mollypitcher5

hahah..hey in the world of perpetual angst there probably is a tie in to car exhaust !
I think when I had made tempura shrimp I almost about had a stroke…the most difficult one of all says..oh wow, these are so good..I may go pescadarian..lol..why the hell can’t they be normal ???

Aubergine

Car farts are evil.
When I was a kid, my sister would let out these monstrous, disgusting farts in the car. In the winter, when it was too cold to crank down a window.
I could have died, because I never had a gas mask. They were that bad.

kea

You all handled those people so well. Ugh I hate that. What about when they push it onto their pets. It’s a dog not a cow. They eat meat

michaelh

Keep this article and the ACSH bookmarked…
Why I Am Not a Vegetarian
https://www.acsh.org/news/1997/04/01/why-i-am-not-a-vegetarian
I’ve never completely understood what drives people to militant veganism, but I do have my theories…
* The slippery slope from “health benefits” to prescriptive nannying busybodies
* The strong internal desire not just to favor vegetable consumption, but to actively DISFAVOR or protest the consumption of animal foods. Militant veganism is demonstrably dishonest in this vein.
* Pantheistic Paganism and/or animism is often a motivating factor, as is occultism
* Occult Mystics of the major religions, same. Christian Mystics, Jewish Kaballah, Muslim Sufi’s
* An attraction to all things oriental (ie, “orientalism”) – for example, Indian religious practices, Buddhism, etc. Particularly so in the context of academia and strong undercurrents of anti-americanism and contempt for all things Western or American
* Environmental reasons, ie AOC’s “cow farts” (but for some reason we let Eric Swalwell get away with it?)
* Nutritional deficiency, especially choline and DHA/Omega3s (impaired neurochemical function)
* CONTROL of the Deplorable’s diets, for its own sake. This is in line with Bloomberg’s dictates on what everyone else should be eating “for their own good”.
* Gail mentions reduction in the population’s strength to fight or be mentally fit – worth remembering
* Urban Trendy Virtue Signalling amplified by a weak moral self-concept
* An expression of an immature childish need to be morally superior to others
* A desire to make food tasteless and unfun. Vegetarian dishes do not need to be tasteless, but many insist on doing so. There is an entire food nuttery that says people overeat because food tastes too good, rather than due to availability… God gave us taste to enjoy the pleasure of His good creation and have fellowship, he tells us to come “sup” and “dine” with him but there are those who feel it is necessary to remove the pleasure and fellowship of food which were created to enrich our lives.
* NeoMarxist Critical Theory applied to food politics: See Carol Adams, “The Sexual Politics of Meat: A Feminist-Vegetarian Critical Theory”. Folks, you can’t make this up. Academics really are this nuts. This is only one title of MANY.
* Reiterating the NeoMarxist critical theory point: NeoMarxists tie themselves in knots to draw a connection between what they call “animal oppression” (I know, “oppression” of “animals” is a favorite of the HSUS types who like to make fake exposes that are always proven to be staged, they injure and hurt the animals more the in the fake video production than any slaughterhouse) and “human oppression” (you know, like slavery in the United States, because every Marxist knows no other civilization owned slaves). They imagine a world of mistreated animals and human rights abuses – but they’re strangely silent about the Soviet Union’s maltreatment of both…
* They hate the Bible, which repeatedly requires in the law for the eating of meat, and in the histories where Patriarchs (oh that “Patriarchy” again!) were wealthy in large animal herds, where the Jewish people were great ranchers, into the New Testament where Jesus practiced the passover and gave his disciples and followers meat to eat on several occasions, where Peter had his vision of the sheet, and Paul and other Apostles wrote in the epistles warning against those who said to abstain from eating meat. “Indeed according to the law almost everything was purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.” – Hebrews 9:22 NET

michaelh

Wow, could be… I think they’d be so much happier if they just added fish oil twice a day to their diets…

churchmouse

SO TRUE — all of it.
Thank you kindly, Michael.
Have just bookmarked the article and the website for future reference.
Amazing to see that the article was written 23 years ago! I’ll now enjoy reading it with morning coffee.

michaelh

You’re welcome – I originally stumbled onto it through Quackwatch years ago. Mostly I saw it as relatively harmless silly-making – but when I realized the real dangers of veganism on preborns, infants, and children the whole thing took on a new moral seriousness with me. It’s one thing for a late-twenties grad student to go radical vegan with everyone in their department, but when children’s development and livelihood is involved we’ve crossed the line from self-discipline to potential child abuse.
Anyway, you’re in luck I have some of my notes handy and can do some searching:
I got this book recently during a promotion through the Cornwall Alliance:
“What Would Jesus Really Eat? The Biblical Case for Eating Meat”
*https://cornwallalliance.org/product/what-would-jesus-really-eat-the-biblical-case-for-eating-meat/

The new book What Would Jesus Really Eat? The Biblical Case for Eating Meat brings together the insights of two Ph.D.’s in philosophy, a Ph.D. in natural resource and agricultural politics, a Ph.D. in Old Testament, doctor of veterinary medicine, a farmer, and a Ph.D. in communications to answer all those arguments and more.
They write in a friendly, clear, persuasive way that makes What Would Jesus Really Eat? a great book to away to Christians considering the ethics of eating. Many of those are young Christians—Millennials and younger.

More assorted links…
Pregnant vegetarians are three times more likely to have kids who abuse drugs and alcohol, study finds
*https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4946396/Babies-vegetarian-women-likely-abuse-drugs.html
New study finds vegetarians twice as likely to be depressed than meat-eaters
*https://www.fox26houston.com/news/new-study-finds-vegetarians-twice-as-likely-to-be-depressed-than-meat-eaters
The Baffling Connection Between Vegetarianism and Depression
*https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/animals-and-us/201812/the-baffling-connection-between-vegetarianism-and-depression
Why I Am Not A Vegetarian: The China Study
*https://jonnybowden.com/blog/weight-loss/why-i-am-not-a-vegetarian-the-china-study/
Does being veggie leave you hungry for love? Meat eaters ‘have more sex than vegetarians’ (but that’s according to a meat company!)
*https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5225265/Meat-eaters-sex-vegetarians.html
The China Study Fallacy (And Why I Stopped Being a Vegetarian)
*http://blog.primalpastures.com/uncategorized/china-study/
The China Study Myth
*https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/the-china-study-myth/
Of course, Quackwatch… one article of interest:
Vegetarianism: Healthful but Unnecessary
*https://www.quackwatch.org/03HealthPromotion/vegetarian.html
The Center for Consumer Freedom
*https://www.consumerfreedom.com/
Often counter some of the idiot attention-grabbing public relations campaigns of the lobbying front group “Center for Science in the Public Interest”.
…More on the intersectionality of opressed veganism and ecofeminism:
‘BY WOMEN, FOR WOMEN’ Vegan cafe charges male customers 18 percent ‘man tax’ and seats women first in bid to address gender pay gap
*https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4176712/men-tax-pay-more-melbourne-cafe/
Food privilege: The unfortunate truths of veganism
*https://tastytufts.wordpress.com/2013/10/16/food-privilege-the-unfortunate-truths-of-veganism/
Swiss town denies passport to Dutch vegan because she is ‘too annoying’
*https://ca.news.yahoo.com/swiss-town-denies-passport-to-dutch-vegan-because-she-is-annoying-125316437.html
Vegans protesting against restaurant are horrified at owner’s revenge – and there’s video
*https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/03/27/vegans-protesting-against-restaurant-are-horrified-at-owners-revenge-and-theres-video

churchmouse

Thank you very much for the links, Michael.
I greatly appreciate them and have duly bookmarked.
Acts 10 will always stay ingrained upon my brain.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+10&version=ESV
9 The next day, as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the housetop about the sixth hour[b] to pray. 10 And he became hungry and wanted something to eat, but while they were preparing it, he fell into a trance 11 and saw the heavens opened and something like a great sheet descending, being let down by its four corners upon the earth. 12 In it were all kinds of animals and reptiles and birds of the air. 13 And there came a voice to him: “Rise, Peter; kill and eat.” 14 But Peter said, “By no means, Lord; for I have never eaten anything that is common or unclean.” 15 And the voice came to him again a second time, “What God has made clean, do not call common.” 16 This happened three times, and the thing was taken up at once to heaven.
AMEN!

ladypenquin

Anyone seen this? Worth sharing regarding sources and what’s being said about Hillary Clinton investigation closed or open. Remember the source, Washington Post, Devlin Barrett, and DOJ said “No Comment”
https://twitter.com/mizdonna/status/1215541456993181696
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1215541456993181696.html

ladypenquin

Click on the time stamp for the entire tweet thread, or use the reader thread app link.

churchmouse

Yes, this has been posted, but some time ago.
Someone here said today (or possibly yesterday) to apply the 48-hour rule on this.

kalbokalbs

OR, until Barr and Durham weigh in with indictments.
Have really only paid attention to IGs the past three years or so.
IGs are notorious for NOT recommending indictments.
– IGs ARE company people.
– Protect the institution.
– AND, cannot investigate outside their agency.
IG investigative hands ARE EFFECTIVELY TIED. DOOMED to NOT be effective.
IMO.

churchmouse

Agree 110%.
I don’t hold out much hope for any of the names mentioned or the IGs.
Case in point: Barr wanted to be kept informed about Epstein; now we find out that the security tape of his final hours no longer exists.
Well, knock me down with a feather.
What is Barr’s response to that?
I have been busy with other things and might have missed it, but, surely, if he’d had a response to that, someone would have posted it here.
Speaking personally, these people are useless until they actually start DOING something useful. I don’t care what they say. Lindsey Graham says something interesting quite a lot. Does he act on it? Does he …
I agree with you. Until indictments start, I’m not going to be cheerleading any of these guys.

kalbokalbs

Agree. Personally remain optimistic justice will go our way.
Epstein aside, AND I’m not minimizing that fiasco.
I have faith in Barr, Durham. AND, ABSOLUTELY believe President Trump is watching & managing justice pursuing the attempted coup and moar.

ladypenquin

Yes. Conservative twitter toe tappers were up in arms about the Washington Post article, but Miz Donna does a good disection – AND reminds us of the source – not just the WaPo, but Devlin Barrett, the Lefties go to guy for writing or massaging false narratives.

ladypenquin

“dissection”

churchmouse

Yes, his name raised a flag, for sure.

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

Greg Jarrett and Sara Carter were on Hannity saying that Huber investigating Clinton was a scam, he never did anything, didn’t even interview U1 whistleblower. Their track record is pretty accurate. Victoria Toensig said same about not interviewing her client a while back. Also Huber never responded to Mark Meadows investigation/hearing with the financial WB’s that had to transmit doc to Huber 3 times. Jus sayin….Hoping for the best, Maybe someone else was assigned?

ladypenquin

I’ve never thought Huber was anything but a red herring. There are issues that concern me, but right now, until we hear from Barr or POTUS, I think we’re stuck. Lots of commentary out there, but what the truth is – I don’t think we know for sure at this moment. Going to wait until the dust settles.
POTUS KNOWS that the criminality and corruption of not only the last administration, but decades of the Swamp in this country must be cleaned up – or his time in office was nothing more than a respite to be followed by the final collapse. That’s how bad things are, and I believe POTUS is aware.

churchmouse

The Sun’s Dan Wootton on Meghan’s commercial ideas on marketing the Sussex titles. Appalling:

FTA:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10708665/meghan-markle-fashion-brands-waxwork/
‘Meghan is understood to be using her array of fashion industry contacts in a bid to cash in on her worldwide fame — potentially making millions in the process.
‘The sources say French fashion house Givenchy is included in the discussions.
‘But the new has infuriated royal courtiers — who are shocked by her underhand efforts to rake in a fortune before the couple had even discussed their plans with the Queen, Prince Charles or other senior figures.
‘A source said: “Meghan is very connected in the fashion industry and there are a lot of major labels who would like to partner with her on projects.
‘“There have already been active discussions with Givenchy. Some of these deals could be worth millions of pounds.
‘“I’m sure she is going to link some of the initiatives to their foundation.”’
There is also info about their staff, who are now in limbo, so to speak:
‘Their backdoor dealings have further angered many household staff who now fear for their jobs — amid mounting pressure for Harry and Meghan to give up the funding for running their office and make their teams redundant.
‘As civil war steps up among major figures in the royal machine, a senior royal insider explained: “We cannot be expected to keep funding their staff in the UK now they’ve gone rogue and have essentially quit.
‘“In the current climate, it is going to be impossible for Meghan and Harry to continue to have an office in Buckingham palace hiring all these staff.
‘“They’ve said they are stepping back. Well, sorry, there are consequences connected to that.
‘“It’s particularly cruel to these young and loyal staff members.
‘“They’ve devoted their lives and many of them have quit successful other careers.
‘“But there’s no guarantee any of them will keep their jobs. What would they do? Move to Canada with them?
‘“For big roles like the private secretary, the debate is about who pays for it.”’
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SAD!

churchmouse

Exactly!
There will be no end to this nonsense.
And how can they control pirate/counterfeit merchandise?

itswoot

“marketing the Sussex titles. Appalling!!!!!!!!!!!”
Meghan is into the trashing of traditions. Similar to the profaning of the sacred.

mollypitcher5

Ah yes..trample the aristocracy but toy with Givenchy or other haute couture to be feted by the aristocracy. She can hawk vegan purses and “sustainable” clothing and destroy the high fashion industry too.
When it was reported that they modeled their new adventure on the Obamas they were right. Pretend it’s for self growth, humanity but it’s really for self aggrandizing and the almighty $$$.

TheseTruths

I am heartily sick of Meghan and Harry. I’m sorry for the trouble for the royal family and Britain as well. My main concern is that everyone is getting into the weeds when there might be a bigger picture we are missing. Is someone paying/financing them, someone they’ll have to answer to? We don’t need more liberal globalist celebrity influence in America; yet that looks like exactly what we’re going to get. Whom does that benefit? And whom does chaos in Britain benefit? And what stories are M&H taking attention from? I can’t help but feel that someone is pulling the strings.

kea

Someone like gs

churchmouse

Yes, I mentioned the same thing upthread (first page, IIRC).
Theirs is such a bad move. Someone could well be behind it. Money talks, and I don’t mean their planned merchandising.

TheseTruths

It’s about time Melania was given some recognition!

churchmouse

More Dan Wootton. He says staff must agree with everything the Sussexes say or be ostracised. Yet they parade themselves as paragons of morality:

churchmouse

Oh, the similarities.

scott467

“It’s Michelle Obama on steroids…”
____________
Pretty sure Big Mike *is* on steroids.
Hormone treatments, at least.

churchmouse

Dan Wootton on M, although it applies to H, too. H should know better:

Katie

Kind of like having a requirement being a natural born citizen. Divided loyalties cause division.

itswoot

“WTF did I just watch…”
“Squirrels Gone Wild”

Hoofhearted

Final Score —– Shirts ….. 8, Skins …. 4

TheseTruths

Feral humans? That’s a Katie Hopkins term. I’m not sure if she reserves it for terrorists, but it seems appropriate for that bunch.

churchmouse

CNN and the NYT are criticising The Sun’s Dan Wootton for prematurely publishing article on Sussexes which he gave them 10 days to review beforehand:

Good points follow in the comments:

churchmouse

Royal Rota is their official schedule, like PDJT’s daily diary of appointments.
Re ten days, yes, agree. Most reporters just file the copy. End of.

michaelh

Holy crap. Cheers of “Revolution” in Paris – someone better wake up fast.

churchmouse

According to Valentine Low from The Times, Prince Harry’s and Prince Charles’s correspondence with each other on a changing role started out normally, in a friendly manner.
Unfortunately, the article is behind a paywall, but this is just to say that it was not originally as hostile as it’s made out to be:

churchmouse

The UK’s Press Gazette (excellent weekly for journalists) discusses Dan Wootton and the H&M story:

FTA:
https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/harry-and-meghan-are-professional-victims-says-sun-journalist-who-broke-royal-split-story/
“They have wanted to feel like they are under attack from the British press and a lot of the time they actually haven’t been,” Sun executive editor Dan Wootton told Press Gazette.
It comes as the Sun defended its coverage of the duchess against claims of racism, saying in a leader column today that it is “sick” of “woke morons crying racism over press criticism”.
Wootton, former showbiz editor at the Sun, said Harry and Meghan were given ten days’ notice about the paper’s royal split scoop, having first gone to the couple’s spokesperson on 28 December …
‘“I would say the fact we had given them ten days’ notice is actually a very lengthy time – people are lucky to get ten hours these days with how quickly news breaks,” said Wootton.’

scott467

“2. For the past 3 days, the press and Dems have foamed at the mouth about curbing the President’s Power with a War Powers Resolution. They passed it. The media covered it. It means nothing.”
__________
I wouldn’t even know about the media’s propaganda narrative, if I hadn’t read it here.
That is the beauty of ‘cutting the cord’ and having no cable TV, therefore no MSM propaganda conduit plugged directly into my cerebral cortex.
Standing back from it, it’s like watching a tempest in a teapot. Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
Like a theater show on Potemkin Avenue, in a shadow box — with sock puppets.
That’s what it has always been, it’s just much more obvious when you disconnect from it.
Imagine if everyone did that.
If everyone just turned their back on the lying, treasonous, corrupt MSM, rendering them not just powerless, but (for them) even worse — irrelevant.
In a way I guess it’s good that I learn what traitor-press is up to, by secondary sources, on any given day. But isn’t paying attention to them just enabling them… sort of like Ann Coulter relentlessly raging at the NYT, therefore ensuring the NYT remains relevant to Ann’s audience?
Wouldn’t it be better if she completely ignored the NYT, allowing it to die from neglect?
If we all stopped watching and reading MSM, it would become very costly for the treason cabal to maintain their iron grip on the ‘narrative’ de jour. The insane Left would still watch (remember when the ‘promise’ of paying for ‘cable’ was TV without the need for commercials? uh-huh…), but without US, half (or more) of their audience vanishes.
The MSM is already heavily subsidized by various Cabal entities in order to stay afloat… imagine… how much more would it cost the enemy if we weren’t helping them by watching their ‘shows’ and generating their ad revenue for them?
Imagine how much more heavily they would have to subsidize MSM, how much money they would have to inject to keep their propaganda flotilla afloat, if NPCs were their only audience?
They are at all-out war with us, against our country and our families — not to mention at war with God.
If we ever got around to going to war with them, they would lose almost instantly. The only way they’re even in the fight is because we DON’T fight.
Just turning them OFF would be an act so severe that it would cripple the enemy.
We can at least do that much… can’t we?
If not, why not?

duchess01

#CES #Brainwaves #CERN
Brainwave Tech & Microchip Nano Portals

Deplorable Patriot

Well, it wasn’t the Empire, exactly. Strictly speaking, as someone on Free Republic pointed out years ago, it was the Grand Moff Tarkin who made the call. Even Darth Vader didn’t stop him.

gil00

Hahaha!

scott467

“Journalists Caution Against Blaming Empire For Blowing Up Alderaan”
______________
And a more subtle dig at journalists.
Journalists don’t ‘caution’, that would be an editorial function, not a function of reportage.
Not that any journalism skule graduate today would know the difference.

ladypenquin

A very good thread by Carlos Osweda, but in particular I like these remarks, re: DJT
Click on the date stamp to get the other nuggets. It’s a good reminder that POTUS is WINNING, and thus, we are winning. Don’t let the lies from the MSM, the Dems, pundits, and even folks from our side dissuade from that viewpoint.
https://twitter.com/COsweda/status/1215757962079137793
https://twitter.com/COsweda/status/1215761042686394368

TheseTruths

“He’s absolutely ruthless.”
And they still think he’s stupid. He is winning despite the greatest opposition any president has ever faced, IMO, and they still don’t understand that there’s a reason why he wins. They refuse to acknowledge who he really is. This is to our advantage.

rayzorbak

I wish that the Supreme Court was “Ruthless” 🙂

ladypenquin

Yes. I’ve been saying all along that they forget or have never accepted the fact that he has a genius level IQ, combined with an incredible personality, affiliation, and understanding of the human race – their mistake, and our good fortune.

Teagan

But, LP, it was Obama who was the genius…”so easily bored because of it” ..after all, Valerie J, told us so!

ladypenquin

I think it was Duchess who mentioned just wants to know the truth about Obama for solving a mystery’s sake. I’m like that too. He’ll never go to jail or be prosecuted, but I’d like to know who is was, and how they did it.

Linda

Okay, this is interesting. I hadn’t heard this about the other airliners who flew out of Iran before the one that was shot down:
https://twitter.com/COsweda/status/1215814018247512064

mollypitcher5

Well that’s interesting. It’s also interesting that someone was filming at the exact vantage point at the exact time to see it happen

kalbokalbs

^^^ Very interesting it is.
MOAR information on passengers on that aircraft. Come out it will.

Chris

If that plane had defecting Generals and families (or one MIA General/family) on it
Crazy mullahs may have intentionally brought plane down “while it was in their controlled airspace”
They can then control the clean up
If any traitor made it to Ukraine.. whole new set of problems..

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

About time!
Iran admits it ‘unintentionally’ shot down Ukrainian jetliner, according to state TV
https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-admits-it-unintentionally-shot-down-ukrainian-jetliner-according-to-state-tv

Volgarian8301

Ummmmhmmmmmm
Version 1- it didn’t happen, it was mechanical
Version 2- it wasn’t Iran
Version 3- OK it was, but we didn’t mean to
🤷
I find it fascinating it was a Ukraine plane….all the other places in this big old world….

para59r

Yeah, that’s kind of like a Deep State Symbolism thing they have going on there, like Deep State wanted to write Karma in the sky. Definitely adds juice to the story they wanted and it would of gave them a perverse delight in being able to rub Trumps nose into a story about Ukraine. Hell, the media and democrats are using the story any way trying to say it was Trumps fault.
Waiting for version 4. Okay we did mean too so we could help the Americans get rid of their President. Followed by version 5. Okay, yeah we had some outside help planning all of this.
Let anyone talk about 4 or 5 and it will be the last we hear the MSM talk about this.
I thought I read somewhere the flight was delayed an hour. Wonders if that was delayed from boarding or delayed from take off.
Meanwhile Carlos Owsenda is claiming 6 flights flew the same path just before the Ukrainian jet was blown out of the sky. My guess would be they were gaming our response to be somewhere with in that one hour window if the flight was delayed from take off.

kalbokalbs

FTA
Homeland Security officials announce milestone in southern border wall construction
Acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf provided an update on the construction of the U.S. border wall on Friday. While speaking in Yuma, Arizona, Wolf marked a milestone for the Trump administration by announcing 100 new miles of southern border wall have been completed.
*https://www.oann.com/homeland-security-officials-announce-milestone-in-southern-border-wall-construction/

Volgarian8301

michaelh

“It’s ok … this is a man who is deeply upset…”
Not going to go well for her – if she can even make it out of the primaries