20200212: DOJ in Disarray? OR, the "Lack of Justice" Sound Off Thread

Please consider this the DOJ pro/con sound off thread. PLEASE read Scott467 response comments (highlighted at the bottom) which are right up there with Wolfie’s Roller Coaster essay. Well done, Scott! It’s time to sound off!

QTreepers can follow a story faster than a sneeze. Impressive! What was a fairly boring news day following the machinations of the NH Primary, was rocked by news coming out of the DOJ.

  • Jussie Smollet indicted on 6 counts by a Special Prosecutor in Chicago (which could have dominated a news cycle by itself).
  • News of 4 DOJ Prosecutors, 3 of them on the Mueller Special Counsel, resigning after the dust up on Roger Stone sentencing…. sending DC media into a firestorm. (WaPost said it was a ‘break glass moment at the DOJ’, the WaPost is running out of incendiary headlines)
  • News of Jessie Liu, former US Attorney to DC, nomination to the US Treasury being pulled…suddenly.
  • and silence fell over the land……… something was “up”.

By late afternoon, the President gave an Oval Office presser and commented on the Roger Stone sentencing. PDJT was not happy. Then we received news from the DOJ that the sentencing recommendation was NOT what was discussed within the hierarchy, which sets up a HUGE problem. Barr acted, pulled the recommendation and four prosecutors resigned….. and the MSM went wild. Comments across media, from Nadler and Schumer implying a conspiracy within the WH/DOJ to subvert justice. Oh, they’re ready to impeach the President AGAIN. But it was just beginning…..

By 7:00pm, we had Lou Dobbs with a segment about Jessie Lu, who left the US Atty slot in DC because she was promised a plum job at US Treasury. Her nomination hearing is supposed to take place in the Senate this week…… and the nomination was pulled. Made everyone’s head spin. FLEP has great details on this, won’t bother you with them here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_e3-zATi2RM&feature=emb_logo

Devin Nunes spoke to Dobbs later about the problem of Liu and James Wolfe, Senate Intel Committee (see FLEP for video) but it instantly reminded us of the Geico Commercial……. Yeah, Jessie Liu almost had that plum job at Treasury but was faked out. OOooo, she almost had it!

By mid-evening, the NH Primary was old news. Everywhere we turned, folks were talking about the DOJ, “Are we finally getting some justice?” to “Why has it taken so long to get justice?”. Heck, I woke up in the middle of the night to let the dog out…. and people were talking about DOJ/JUSTICE on the a Blueberry Muffin Thread!! Don’t get me wrong, not complaining, we all post stuff on different threads……. it was a good thing because I found a golden nugget, The Muffin Thread is where I found this GEM from Scott467. By the time I finished reading Scott’s comment, I was wide awake, cheering. Scott nailed it. Here it is:

I just don’t know why ANY of the games are necessary. I don’t even know who all the games are FOR. They’re certainly not for OUR benefit, Sleepy Joe Public certainly isn’t keeping track of any of the palace intrigue. And the bad guys certainly don’t give a flip about the perception game.

It all reminds me of the arguments (such as they were) I used to have with Sundance about his insistence that Washington exists in a virtual alternate reality, a place where law means nothing and perception is all that counts. He could never explain it, or even try. We were just supposed to swallow it whole, like mm-mmm good dogma.

The Left doesn’t worry about ‘awakening’ the public, or public support, or even concern itself with whether the public lives or dies (preferably dies, from their perspective). They just arrest whomever they want, prosecute whomever they want, railroad whomever they want, smear whomever they want, violate whomever’s rights they want, simply because they have the power to do so and the WILL to do it. Because NOBODY is going to stop them. Like nerds with chips on their shoulders the size of Mount Everest.

But when on extremely rare occasion the ‘good guys’ are in a position to purge and wipe the slate wholly clean, they don’t. Instead, they play an elaborate game, taking YEARS, ostensibly in the effort to win public support for simply enforcing the LAW. Apparently failing to realize that they don’t need any permission to ENFORCE the freakin’ LAW.

If people are committing treason, don’t tell us about all the clues and evidence… you have the power to arrest and convict them… so DO it already. Nobody is going to stop you, just like nobody ever stopped the lawless tyrants. I know, I know, the government is filled with dirty prosecutors and judges who will see to it that the bad guys are never actually convicted. So arrest the dirty prosecutors and judges.

It’s not rocket science.

When bad people do bad things, the people granted power and authority to enforce the Law have a responsibility and an OBLIGATION to take control of the situation and ENFORCE the LAW. It doesn’t matter if the public understands SQUAT about it (they don’t, and they won’t, and they never have!). The public is simply NOT relevant to the enforcement of the LAW.

EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER LAW.

What part of that does law enforcement NOT understand?!?

If I run a traffic light, and a cop sees me, he doesn’t go on TV and try his case in public, to win public support, so that maybe, 3 years down the road, he can issue me a traffic ticket. He USES his lawful authority to pull me over and give me a ticket right then and there. It could even happen in the middle of the night, on the highway, with NO witnesses! The public would NEVER find out about my traffic ticket, and yet I would still have to pay it, or the state would begin using its power and authority to compel me to pay it, one way or the other. They always do, because they know EXACTLY how to exercise power… when they WANT to. People in positions of power always do.

But now we’re in alternate reality land, where the people who ARE awake must be convinced that the Public who mostly couldn’t care less must be ‘awakened’ (but never actually are awakened) before the Cops can ever do their job.

The whole thing is a farce.

In fact, it’s disrespectful to the word ‘farce’ to compare the ongoing insanity to anything so noble as ‘farce’.

Our guy, Scott467.

It gets better. Scott was just getting started. Scott is tired of excuses and so are we. A few folks chimed in and pleaded for patience which is understandable. I know, I know, wheels of justice grind slowly but exceedingly fine….. we’re playing by the rules while the other side is trashing the rules. It’s frustrating. We’re ready to mop up this mess.

PGroup and Ozzie were fabulous, calm, and rational! Scott continued and by the time he was done, I was ready to nominate HIM for Atty General. PGroup commented he was in awe of the “slick move” to eradicate Jessie Liu. Scott responded brilliantly…… Watch. (Edited for space, emphasis is mine, Scott’s words are powerful, full comment here: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/02/11/about-those-blueberry-muffins/ )

……. We the People OWN this country, it is OURS. We are NOT hostages to traitors, unless we allow ourselves to be. And if we do, that’s just sick……..A lot of wasted energy and wasted time. Justice delayed is justice denied. We don’t have to reinvent the wheel, and there’s not a single person in Washington on either side who doesn’t know how to exercise power.

The only mystery is why nobody will DO it.

But I’m not in awe, I’m in pain. Every day. And I’m in grief over the lawless ruin our country has become. That doesn’t leave much room for ‘awe’ at slick maneuvers. What is needed, what has been needed from day one, and what we all thought we were getting was a man of ACTION.

YES, I know the script, I know the great ‘hope’, I know ‘the plan’ we’re all supposed to be following (but which no one ever actually articulates). It starts to ring a little hollow after 1,100 days and counting…..

It means the Constitution was created for OUR benefit, to serve US — it was NOT created to serve the interests of TRAITORS seeking to DESTROY us. And if it should be that the Constitution was either destroyed or twisted by Traitors, such that We the People and the Republic are in danger of being lost, not only are we NOT obligated by the Constitution, but contrariwise, we have a duty far above and beyond the remains of the Constitution to do whatever is necessary to SAVE the Republic.

The Constitution didn’t start this country. This country and our People existed long before the Constitution did. The Constitution was established to protect US (We the People) FROM the very tyrannical government we now face. We are NOT obligated to self destruct, to lose the Republic to Traitors within, because lawyers have twisted the Constitution and the laws against us……

The Constitution exists to SERVE us. Not only would the president have been well within his Rights and lawful Authority to do so, but he has a Duty and Obligation and Oath of Office requiring him to do so. But 3+ years later, we’re still playing games about how to ‘trick’ people into leaving their positions of abuse in government. Meanwhile the People continue to suffer — year after year after year. Our rights remain trampled upon and the enemy continues to encroach with abandon. Traitors at the highest level in the history of our Republic remain free. The rule of Law remains dead and buried.

“SD’s Big Ugly has begun. And there’s nothing anyone can do to stop it or slow it down.” I hope so.

The thing is, we shouldn’t have to be relying on ‘hope’.

We never should have.

Please read Scott467 full comment here: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/02/11/about-those-blueberry-muffins/

Well, there’s the flaming arrow of truth.

There IS an overwhelming feeling of frustration with our current double standard of justice. If we don’t discipline the toddler, the toddler demands cookies for dinner. Not being an Eeyore to call it out. Hillary/Obama buddies have gorged themselves on too many cookies. There must be consequences. We can’t ignore it nor pretend the problem does not exist. It’s time for indictments.

Think I’m over-reacting?

Good heavens, the political opposition has smeared the President of the USA, his family, and ALL of his associates, PLUS those who voted for him, for FOUR YEARS. They almost impeached our President on a false whim and didn’t even allow him to defend himself within the Congress of the United States…….

The problem with the double standard of justice and lack of objectivity in the media and in the DOJ cannot possibly become any MORE severe than our current state of affairs. Are we fearful of offending the other side? Are we waiting for the slow grind of the wheel of justice? Why are we sitting on our hands? What are we so passive and accommodating to those who are ruining our country, our culture, and our legal system?

Yeah, this is the sound-off thread.

What happens when we ignore the problem or choose not to prosecute? We get guys like this…..

PASADENA, CA – JANUARY 15: Jussie Smollett attends the 49th NAACP Image Awards at Pasadena Civic Auditorium on January 15, 2018 in Pasadena, California. (Photo by Alberto E. Rodriguez/Getty Images for NAACP )

How President Trump Just Obtained Nuclear Superiority Over The Swamp

It is now very important to RECONFIGURE YOUR THINKING about what is going on in Washington.

They are going to try to distract you with LOOK, SQUIRREL…..

when the thing you should really be looking at is the LIU-K, WOLFE!

President Trump, in firing (in two brilliant steps) the CORRUPT Jessie K. Liu, has just powered up his new-fangled nuclear-powered laser which is going to dry up the swamp in a jiffy.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/02/breaking-president-trump-pulls-nomination-of-corrupt-deep-state-us-attorney-jessie-liu-to-treasury-dept/

It is, as Sundance says, BIGGER THAN SPYGATE.

  • Spygate was just PART of this shit.
  • The Russia Hoax was just PART of this shit.
  • Mueller was just PART of this shit.
  • The Maria Butina / Jessie Liu “lost episodes of Mueller” farce is just PART of this shit.
  • Some Russian guy named Deripaska is just PART of this shit.
  • Bogus Forced Recusal of Jeff Sessions is just PART of this shit.
  • Fusion GPS is just PART of this shit.
  • Impeachment Failure One – Russia is just PART of this shit.
  • Impeachment Failure Two – Ukraine is just PART of this shit.

There is SO much more, and I am hoping that ALL YOU COMMENTERS will add many, many more items to the list of “what was part of this shit“. It’s all VERY BIG.

But there is ONE SPECIAL PART that just connects EVERYTHING.

Sundance was RIGHT that it was the DOJ that was at the center – the dirty, rotten CENTER – the Eric Holder CENTER – of all the nastiness that was arrayed against Citizen Trump, Candidate Trump, and ultimately President Trump.

AND LITTLE MISS NASTY, ERIC HOLDER’S LITTLE SPIDER WHO WOULDN’T HURT A FLY, JUST GOT HER SPINNERETS KICKED RIGHT OUT OF THE WEB.

In particular, Jessie Liu protected ONE THING which – once you see it – shows you how ROTTEN and POISONOUS the whole damn thing was.

But FIRST, I have to help you see it. Or bring in a friend to do it.

Remember – IT’S ALL ABOUT MISDIRECTION. Both how they tried to attack our VSG. And how he defeated them.

SUNDANCE is going to do the heavy lifting. RIGHT NOW.

First, I want you to READ THIS SLOWLY AND CAREFULLY. Read it twice if you have to.

The DC Cover-up That’s As Big As Spygate…

NOW – if you have read this CAREFULLY, then you understand that Jessie Liu was basically in charge of making everything VANISH in plain sight, while making it NOT look like that’s what she was doing.

She tried at all times to make it look like she was actually helping President Trump, when in fact she was SAVING THE SWAMP. In particular, she single-handedly took all the heat off of the role of CONGRESS – both the House and the Senate, but especially the SENATE – in the plot against Trump.

To do this, she had to let a SPYGATE LEAKERJames Wolfe of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) – get off on the ACTUAL charges that mattered – the LEAKING CHARGES – and convict him on the lesser charge of simply lying to the FBI. This, of course, would hide the circumstances of the leaking. And THAT was very important to the Swamp.

I repeat. Jessie K. Liu protected the Swamp from justice for some of THE MOST DAMAGING parts of the Spygate story. She *LITERALLY* obstructed justice.

Frankly, at this point, I wonder if Wolfe actually DID lie to the FBI, or if that was an engineered charge precisely to let him off easy, while BURYING the actual substantial charges and circumstances surrounding the leak.

In any event, Sundance saw this IMMEDIATELY for what it was – a naked dereliction of the DOJ’s duty, and particularly stunning in light of Trump’s promise to plug leaks and treat leakers like the criminals they are.

Sundance used to be quite angry about this. It seemed like nothing would ever be done about it.

UNTIL TODAY.

With Jessie Liu – the gal who let off James Wolfe, and was PLANNING to let off Andrew McCabe – out of the picture – there are all kinds of possibilities for a CHAIN REACTION in the swamp.

TWO OF THE MOST IMPORTANT AND HIDDEN CABAL CONTROL “RODS” HAVE BEEN REMOVED.


So – NOW – what did the SWAMP in DOJ do in response to this? A desperation move. An SJW Lawfare HOAX.

SUNDANCE explains again.

Remember – what the Mueller DOJ attorneys are doing is just another very big form of LOOK, SQUIRREL.

Mueller Prosecutor Departs DC Team After Setting Sentencing Trap in Roger Stone Case…

This is rather cunning of these DOJ attorneys. This is pure LAWFARE. They are setting a fire and jumping ship. By leaving DOJ, they protect themselves from internal investigation and any requirement to tell the truth WITH CANDOR. If they leave, they can hide evidence of the coup.

There will be a fight over pardoning Roger Stone for being prosecuted in a hoax investigation, and that is a good thing. However, DO NOT be distracted from the main issue here.

The main issue is THIS:

THERE WAS A BROAD, DEEP, AND PERVASIVE PLOT – CENTERED AT THE HOLDER DOJ – TO TAKE OUT CITIZEN TRUMP, CANDIDATE TRUMP, AND ULTIMATELY PRESIDENT TRUMP. THAT PLOT INVOLVED ALMOST EVERY BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT.

This was more than just a hoax. It was more than just “SpyGate”. It was a

  • PRE-COUP AGAINST A CITIZEN
  • ELECTION COUP AGAINST A CANDIDATE
  • LITERAL COUP AGAINST A PRESIDENT

Normally, what we see in a coup, is the MILITARY being used in a plot against the head of state.

But in this coup, we saw the CIVILIAN branches of government being used instead – largely because the head of state was TOO POPULAR with the military.

We truly live in amazing times.

Sundance has rightly surmised that Trump and Barr have just split the atom under the corruptos in DOJ, and that this explosion leads to a LOT more fusion than just Fusion GPS.

There will be booms EVERYWHERE. ALL ACROSS THE GOVERNMENT.

Enjoy the show.

W

Dear KAG: 20200212 Open Thread

Mornin’ y’all. This morning, well….

Due to the sheer number of BOOMs in the last two weeks, it’s time to bring out the big guns.

And…a picture I took at Scott Air Force Base in St. Clair County, Illinois, a few years back. The bird’s name is/was Liberty and he was recovering from having been hit by a car near Alton, Illinois, not far from the confluence of the Missouri and Mississippi Rivers.

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From today’s Gospel According to St. Mark, Chapter 7:

Jesus summoned the crowd again and said to them,
“Hear me, all of you, and understand.
Nothing that enters one from outside can defile that person;
but the things that come out from within are what defile.”

When he got home away from the crowd
his disciples questioned him about the parable.
He said to them,
“Are even you likewise without understanding?
Do you not realize that everything
that goes into a person from outside cannot defile,
since it enters not the heart but the stomach
and passes out into the latrine?”
(Thus he declared all foods clean.)
“But what comes out of the man, that is what defiles him.
From within the man, from his heart,
come evil thoughts, unchastity, theft, murder,
adultery, greed, malice, deceit,
licentiousness, envy, blasphemy, arrogance, folly.
All these evils come from within and they defile.”

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome.

Given the rodent discussion earlier in the week, I’m leaving this one here for one more look.