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In the following article there are one or two statements (not from God’s Word) that I cannot see are supported by God’s Word . . . or, perhaps, I’m not wise enough to make a solid connection to God’s Word. Nevertheless, this article is a timely presentation for our times.


God Raises Up Kings or Nations
and Removes Them

“Before Him all the nations are as nothing; they are regarded by Him as worthless and less than nothing. To whom, then, will you compare God? What image will you compare Him to?” (Isaiah 40:17,18 )

Civilizations come and go, and governments rise and fall.  Because our Creator loves people, He also blesses each nation with a span of time so it might prosper and do well, but this blessing ends when a nation becomes degenerate, rebellious, and unfit for self-rule.  When God determines that extended mercy for a nation has no redeeming effect, He marginalizes or destroys that nation.

Many Christians understand that God destroyed the world in Noah’s day because it became evil, but this is only part of the picture!  God drowned all but eight people in Noah’s day to free future generations from the evil conduct that belonged to their parents and grandparents.  The Lord created the Earth and it belongs to Him.  He loves future generations just as much as He loves the present generation.  When it becomes evident to Him that future generations will be ruined by the behaviors passed down by parents and grandparents, He wipes out the present generation. He did this in Noah’s day.  In more recent times, He did this with World Wars I and II.  Surprisingly, a God of love imposed these wars during the first half of the 20th century so the world’s population would grow and flourish 75 more years before needing another world war.  “But the Lord is the true God; He is the living God, the eternal King. When He is angry, the Earth trembles; the nations cannot endure His wrath.” (Jeremiah 10:10‘I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the Lord, do all these things.’ ” (Isaiah 45:7)

Many Christians will not accept the premise that a God of love destroys nations when they become decadent and degenerate. (Ezekiel 14:12-21)  Notice what the Lord said to Ezekiel: “ ‘Son of man, if a country sins against me by being unfaithful and I stretch out my hand against it to cut off its food supply and send famine upon it and kill its men and their animals, even if these three men – Noah, Daniel and Job – were in it, they could save only themselves by their righteousness,’ declares the Sovereign Lord. . . . ‘Or if I bring a sword against that country and say, ‘Let the sword pass throughout the land,’ and I kill its men and their animals, as surely as I live,’ declares the Sovereign Lord, ‘even if these three men were in it, they could not save their own sons or daughters. They alone would be saved.’ ” (Ezekiel 14:13-18)

World War III is Coming!

Sooner than later, the “sword” is going to come again.  World War III will occur.  Tensions are mounting. Nations are preparing for war.  Secret alliances are being made.  Military spending has increased. And now, for the first time since World War II, Japan and South Korea are building missiles for protection.  India is seeking to purchase submarines that can carry missiles.  Iran is developing its military prowess as fast as possible.  Israel is perfecting its use of drones.  China, Russia, and the United States are in an arms race and North Korea is defying the world’s nations.  Like it or not, World War III is coming; and when it does, millions of people will die.

Meanwhile at home, the United States is suffering from paralysis.  The leaders are fighting each other.  They are bogged down with complex domestic problems and cannot get anything done because they cannot agree on a solution.  Partisanship has created a do-nothing legislature.  The U.S. is facing large, complex problems so expensive that no one can offer a good solution.  Many governments in the world are in a similar or worse situation.

According to the Bible, the longevity of a government is determined by its commitment to moral principles God has dictated.  When a majority of people abide by these principles, God blesses that nation with prosperity and longevity.  He sends the Holy Spirit to prompt honest hearted citizens to be good neighbors.  The Holy Spirit helps people make good decisions because good decisions bring good results for individuals, families, and ultimately, the nation.  To ensure continuity for oncoming generations, God also raises up good leaders and the result is a good government that prospers and endures. This is why King David wrote:  “Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord, the people He chose for His inheritance.  From Heaven the Lord looks down and sees all mankind; from His dwelling place He watches all who live on Earth– He who forms the hearts of all, who considers everything they do.  No king is saved by the size of his army; no warrior escapes by his great strength.  A horse [a symbol of military might] is a vain hope for deliverance; despite all its great strength it cannot save. But the eyes of the Lord are on those who fear Him, on those whose hope is in his unfailing love, to deliver them from death and keep them alive in famine.” (Psalm 33:12-19, insertion mine)

Governments are very complex organizations.  In fact, they are so complicated that men cannot manage a government on their own.  Of course, a man or woman can rise to the position of a king, queen, dictator, or president, but only with God’s approval.  God sets kings up and takes them down according to His higher purposes.  Sometimes God will raise up a king to serve as a destroyer of other nations only to destroy that king and his nation when they pass the point of no return. (Jeremiah 25:9-12)  Because we cannot know or understand God’s higher purposes until He reveals them, we have to trust Him. We have to accept that He is carefully and thoughtfully managing the political processes on Earth to benefit the world.  Daniel told king Nebuchadnezzar,  “He [the Most High God] changes times and seasons; He sets up kings and deposes them. He gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to the discerning. He reveals deep and hidden things; He knows what lies in darkness, and light dwells with Him.” (Daniel 2:21,22, insertion mine)

God Does Not Guarantee a Nation Will Be Successful

History indicates that prosperity and longevity is not a guaranteed right for any nation.  A nation will flourish or disappear depending on the behavior of its people and the wisdom of its leaders.  God enables a nation to prosper for as long as the majority of its people are honorable, living right, and making wise choices.  Think of the billions of decisions, the actions and consequences that occur every day within every nation.  If a million immoral decisions are made each day, a million evil consequences will follow, because the law of “cause and effect” cannot be broken.  Whatever we sow, we reap. (Galatians 6:7,8)  This axiom is true for individuals and governments.

For example, when Dictator Mao Zedong implemented “The Great Leap Forward” program in 1958, he did not anticipate that his efforts to transform China from an agricultural economy into a communist society would cause mass starvation within five years.  We now know that His decision resulted in the death of some eighteen to fifty-five million people!  A God of love allowed Mao to make such a decision even though God foreknew the outcome and He allowed Mao to rule over China for twenty five years as dictator.  This is because Mao’s choices fit within God’s plans for the future of China and the world.  This is a hard concept to accept because we cannot see the end from the beginning as God does.  In fact, a time is coming when God will allow the devil himself to rule over the whole world!  (Revelation 13:11-18)

Jesus understood the curse of sin.  He knew that evil things happen to innocent people, and He made it clear that those who cause others harm will be repaid:  “Things that cause people to sin are bound to come, but woe to that person through whom they come.  It would be better for him to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around his neck than for him to cause one of these little ones to sin.” (Luke 17:1,2“Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: ‘It is mine to avenge; I will repay,’ says the Lord.” (Romans 12:19)

Because adults have free will and a sinful nature a nation always has the possibility of rebellion and chaos.  This is why law enforcement is necessary.  To help offset man’s propensity for rebellion, and to help nations grow and improve, God has given adults the ability to recognize and appreciate a need for law and order.  He has also given us a “natural desire” to live in peace with one another and in harmony with the laws of the country.  Paul was aware of this phenomenon when he wrote Romans 13.  As you read his remarks, keep in mind that Paul was a prisoner in Rome when he wrote this:  “Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.  Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.  For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. For he is God’s servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God’s servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.  Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience.  This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing.”  (Romans 13:1-6, italics mine)

When a nation advocates and exalts evil, a patient God removes His blessings from that nation in small steps, hoping that repentance and correction will occur.  If there is no change in behavior, problems soon begin to sprout like dandelions after a spring rain.  The nation’s economy flounders.  Poverty increases.  Sexual misconduct ruins relationships, and families and children are abused by predators.  Political problems escalate until finally, war engulfs that weakened nation.  One of the tell-tale signs of a nation’s imminent downfall is the arrival of poor managers.  When people are put in positions of power that are self-seeking and immoral, we know the end is near because they only make matters worse.  When lies and suspicion replace truth and trust, government is doomed. God is no respecter of persons.  He will destroy nations that He once blessed when they become unfit for His purposes because He owns and rules over the Earth.

God Permits Rebellion Against a Cruel Government

The Bible teaches that man’s first and highest duty is to obey God. (This is why church/state governments are so dangerous.)  When man’s laws run contrary to God’s laws, civil disobedience is warranted.  When Jewish leaders forbade the disciples from speaking about a resurrected Jesus, “Peter and the other apostles replied: ‘We must obey God rather than men!’ ” (Acts 5:29) Jesus highlighted the concept of “God first” when He repeated the first and greatest commandment.  He said we must love God with all of our heart, mind and soul and the second commandment is that we must love our neighbors as ourselves.  (Matthew 22:37-39)  Given the order presented in these two commandments, Paul’s counsel in Romans 13 could be considered a third commandment, “Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established.”

When a government becomes cruel and oppressive, tyranny occurs and under such circumstances, God permits revolt, civil disobedience, and war.  In fact, the United States came to be a nation through acts of civil disobedience and the revolutionary war.  Then, about seventy-five years later, a civil war broke out between the north and the south and 620,000 people perished. In spite of all the blood that was shed in both wars, consider the results.  A great nation arose, greater than England by far!  A nation having fifty united states where no man is permitted to own another as a slave.

Many people have argued through the centuries (using Paul’s comments in Romans 13:1-6 and a concept called “the divine right of kings”) that revolting against government leaders is forbidden by Scripture.  But Paul included an important qualifier in his remarks.  Paul said, “For he is God’s servant to do you good.”  When a government violates God’s laws and when leaders become dishonest, cruel, and oppressive to maintain their power, they are doing no good.  God warns all government rulers that they will have to give an account for their actions. (Psalm 2:10-12)

Citizens of the U.S. are blessed to live in a country that has the finest constitution ever created, but the nation is falling apart because people have abandoned the moral principles which God requires to receive His blessings.  Corruption is replacing confidence and there is no shortage of liars and predators in politics.  Forty million of 360 million U.S. citizens need assistance to buy food and the median price of a home is beyond the reach of three-fourths of the population.  The number of people in poverty is swelling because the middle class is disappearing.  Wages are stagnant and student loans are proving to be ruinous for millions of young people.  More than ever, fellow Americans do not like or trust each other; and more and more, we carry guns because we are increasingly afraid of each other.  America has fallen so fast!

God Has a Solution to National Degeneracy

There is no human solution to the world’s problems, but there is a divine solution for both.  The downfall of all nations is near!  During the Great Tribulation a stern-faced king will arise; he will take control and utterly ruin everything on Earth ­– a fitting end for a world that insists on evil behavior.

*https://wake-up.org/morality/god-raises-up-kings-or-nations-and-removes-them-larry-w-wilson.html


How unsearchable are His judgments and His ways past finding out! For who has known the mind of the Lord?

For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, declares the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts.

And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose.

For God so loved the world that He gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.

He has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you.

The sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us.

But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slow to fulfill His promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance. 

But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it we await a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body to be like His glorious body, by the power that enables Him even to subject all things to Himself.

Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be His people, and God himself will be with them as their God. He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.

. . . for the kingdom of God is . . . righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. 

Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, nor have entered into the heart of man the things which God has prepared for those who love Him.

For of Him and through Him and to Him are all things, to whom be glory forever. Amen.

Behold, I am coming soon.

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Dora
trumpismine

WTH is going on in DC?
https://youtu.be/mbY-tH6KI-s

GA/FL

That building doesn’t look quite like the Capitol.

SteveInCO

It’s the east front (which is technically the “front” of the building). It has the triangular pediment front and center, above the columns but below the dome. Here:
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The side one usually sees is the west front that faces the mall, and that’s where the march ended up–there’s no pediment there which is why this didn’t look right to you. Here’s the west front:
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GA/FL

It’s the building across the street but part of the Capitol complex area – @ :57 in this video.

GA/FL

More troops arriving:

SteveInCO

OK, I don’t know how things got crossed up.

But THIS is the east front of the capitol. Now, where my comments are, I don’t see a picture of any building at all. But I was looking at THIS cover image and you saying it didn’t look like the capitol.

Sorry about that.

singingsoul1

Do we know this is really today that military is in DC ? The video could be from another time?

Linda

Mel Q
55 minutes ago ·
350k
@ Littllemel
We just had a countdown 5 to 1
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Wolf Moon

Yuge!!!

michaelh

SoS clearly messaging

It’s one thing to shut down POTUS

But to shut down the SoS . . .

singingsoul1

What is SOS ?

Katie

Secretary of State

michaelh

SoS = Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo

ladypenquin

Simon Parks had indicated the original “timetable” for POTUS’ moves had been geared toward Wednesday, the 13th – but was being moved up – because of Pelosi? Anyway, the tweets’ content is numbered in a countdown order, regardless of the tweets in between. I’d say that was deliberate.

gil00

What happens at ZERO?

singingsoul1

POTUS giving address to the Nation in the House? Just speculating.

para59r

Just saying. From 5 to 1 there are 15 tweets total. They do come in that order (5-1) with tweets between. Didn’t notice other written numbers in the between tweets except Quad was used twice back to back.

Sadie Slays

This graphic is misleading. If you visit Secretary Pompeo’s Twitter feed, you’ll see there several tweets in between each number tweet. For example, there are five tweets between the “Five eyes partnership” and “Quad diplomacy” tweet on his actual Twitter timeline, but not on the graphic. It’s not a series of consecutive tweets with an obvious countdown.

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ladypenquin

Here’s another way to think about it though.

While we were looking at seeing increased comments from on the hour to the half hour and less, within the tweets is an actual countdown – else he could have placed those accomplishments in random order not the way he did. Folks looking out of context might not catch it. Someone did.

singingsoul1

I think I figuers out the message from Pampeo. He is hinting about three parties?
Democrats – Republican -uniparty- One / Third party POTUS

duchess01

1984

RF121

Too funny.




Wolf Moon

LMAO!!!

singingsoul1

My son and his wife were considered essential one in their job to get the Pfizer vaccine. They had no adverse effect and it two weeks get second shot. He said second shot could evoke slight temperature. I need to pick his brain why he choose Pfizer.
Both are in there fifties. She has health issues but seems fine after the vaccination.

Gingersmom2009

But apart from perhaps 2 months of not total immunity, while still encouraged to wear a mask – what is the upside? I just don’t see the point. I assume they were required to get it?

singingsoul1

They have to get the vaccine part of their job. My son works with some of the components that are in the vaccine .
I have to ask him more about it when he calls. He had told me how each vaccine works differently why but I forgot.

suzyqster58

now that’s some funny shitz right there lol

Dora
RF121

May see Parler next month or so. Maybe. I guess they forgot to review the business contingency plan.

Katie

Shit’s getting real. This is NOT good.

michaelh

I think you have the situation pegged.

Wolf Moon

People are NOT learning from Trump. DOWNSIDE FTW.

scott467

Hard to imagine how they didn’t see this coming… have they been living under a rock?

grandmaintexas

Yeah. Really not good. So glad I’m on Gab.

Gail Combs

Controlled Opposition?

Requesting/Requiring Phone # was a complete turn off for me.

cthulhu

You see this petty BS all the time these days. Last year’s tax prep software had a blank for “email”, which was starred as “necessary”.

There is no law that says you must own a computer. There is no law that says you must own a phone. Every “necessary” phone or email is in-your-face datamining.

Steve in Lewes

Fascism at it’s finest…’private’ companies doing the bidding of it’s political leaders is anti-capitalism…..classic fascism…this is not in the best interest of the stock holders.

Concerned Virginian

My opinion: If I’m reading the Geoffrey Grinder piece correctly, it appears he’s certain that Harris – Biden will be “inaugurated” on January 20th; and that Biden will be “removed” soon afterwards, paving the way for Harris to take over .
Mr. Grinder uses the word “Reich”. I believe “dictatorship” may be more apt.

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Concerned Virginian

bakocarl
Thanks so much!

para59r

The logical plan would be to let Biden take all the slings and arrows after some heavy moving and then hopes that has all died down by the time Harris takes over. Not that, that would matter as all would be cemented in by then.

piper567

para, the logical plan would be to grasp Trump is headed for a second Term.

duchess01

I have a hard time reading anything that claims Biden will be anything but, in jail, CV!!!

These guys that are parading his cabinet picks just make me cranky – so I skip those, too – these people are STUPID!!!

duchess01

Storm Dispatch -20210110
https://youtu.be/jPlpw0NDzcQ

smiley2

has anyone here posted anything about THIS yet ??

a friend just called to tell me : pelosi has been arrested trying to get into Canada…??

I do not know anything at all to verify that.

might just be rumor.

but…!!!

singingsoul1

What would she do in Canada? Would they not extradite her unless she flies further to China?
This sounds like a roomer. that she was trying to get into Canada.

Wolf Moon

I’m betting Maple Castro would protect her from Bad Orange Not His President!

TheseTruths

“Maple Castro,” 🤭 That’s perfect!

Gail Combs

OUCH! and I am not male.  😋 

Cuppa Covfefe

The spinto pinto…

Wolf Moon

LMAO!!!

smiley2

trying to escape ?

smiley2

probably just rumor…she’s still blathering into her mask about “impeachment”.

Gail Combs

Large Chinese Military presence in Canada??

smiley2

then there’s that.

phoenixrising

Rumor Smiley… went round, debunked yesterday

MAGA Mom

so many rumors, so little time

No, she is in DC impeaching President Trump again.  😳  😱 

smiley2
smiley2

POTUS…and…

The Insurrection Act

link..

https://www.monkeywerxus.com/blog/hyufdwtux92z2g4kc89s0vht85vu04

1/10

gil00

Says his friend told him, going in to Pendleton. Lets see.

kalbokalbs

What brought up Pendleton?

BTW, there IS a MCAS Pendleton. Marine Corps Air Station. Runway only 6,000′.

MCAS Miramar very close by.

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gil00

The link says he got his info from a friend on his way in to Pendleton. We have lots of navy and marines as you know. I would think that kind of info if it was real would spread fast.
Ive never trusted the monkeywerx info much.

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gil00

Yep plus san diego airport…can go up to March arb too.

jamcooker

What if his friend is not located in CA?

SteveInCO

I am not going to lie, when I saw it I was a little angry at POTUS because I felt like he had just sold us out. HE was the guy who called everyone there, and now he was condemning us!? It made no sense. NOW IT DOES!

So the reason we were called to be there was not to help put pressure on Congress, but so that we could then be told to go home.

“Please come here so I can tell you to leave,” basically (paraphrasing).

As long as it was useful, that suits my sense of irony!!! 😄 

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singingsoul1

I thought he called people together because he believed it would be a celebration. He did not know Pence would bail until last minute.

SteveInCO

For reasons I gave yesterday, I don’t think Pence really did have the power. Otherwise Gore would have done the exact same thing in 2001, rejected Florida’s votes and put himself in the White House.

Wolf Moon

This is an extremely strong argument. The commies would have done it even if illegal but still plausible.

SteveInCO

And it was not only plausible, the media had been feeding Gore’s side of it, unlike this time where they certainly weren’t feeding Trump’s side of it.

He could have got away with it easily, whereas with Trump it’d have been controversial forever.

phoenixrising

Florida’s electors were nominated/selected by the State Legislature… they were LEGAL. Gore could not have done the same.

Wolf Moon

Big difference, constitutionally, though not to the commie media!

phoenixrising

Amen

piper567

wow…I find that hard to believe!

Gail Combs

AND Logic

  1. The Presence of so many supporters ON A WEEK DAY was a warning to the dingbats in Congress.
  2. I am ABSOLUTELY SURE POTUS KNEW Aunty Fa would be there to cause trouble. That means He could bank on being able to tell everyone to go home peacefully.

Kinda of a neat sneaky way to get around alerting the Enemy.

duchess01

Message Received, Blackout, Hello GEORGE, Time To Show The World The Truth -Ep. 2374 
 January 10, 2021  x22report

https://x22report.com/message-received-blackout-hello-george-time-to-show-the-world-the-truth-ep-2374/

duchess01

Ep. 2374a – Trump & The Patriots Are Bringing Down The [CB] Economic System
X22 Report  Published  January 10, 2021

https://rumble.com/vcmybd-ep.-2374a-trump-and-the-patriots-are-bringing-down-the-cb-economic-system.html

duchess01

Ep. 2374b – Message Received, Blackout, Hello GEORGE, Time To Show The World The Truth
X22 Report  Published  January 10, 2021

https://rumble.com/vcmywr-ep.-2374b-message-received-blackout-hello-george-time-to-show-the-world-the.html

duchess01

WOW!!!

duchess01

The push is on from the [CB], they are preparing the world for the great reset, this is why the MSM has been reporting about food shortages, small homes, new currency etc. Now they are preparing the country to eat insects and weeds. Trump and the patriots are ready to take down the entire system. The [DS]/MSM are now panicking, they are rushing to impeach Trump and get him out of office because they know what is about to happen. They will start the impeachment process and Trump will then start to reveal the crimes they have committed, Treason. Trump sent a message, it’s happening, it is time to show the world the truth. It’s time to take down the corrupt diseased system.


yucki

CB?
central bank

SteveInCO

X22 puts out two reports a day, as near as I can tell, and one of them is ALWAYS about how Trump is going to kill the central banks.

duchess01

Yes – our Central Bank is the Federal Reserve – however – Central Banks exist in nearly every country in the world – do not serve the people –

Masters of Debt Instruments – Fiat Money – Enemy of the People

Putin took control of Russia’s Central Bank – I believe Iceland abolished its CB

cthulhu

During the big financial crisis, Iceland’s bankers went to the government to shake them down for a bailout. It didn’t work out according to plan — Iceland jailed ’em instead.

duchess01

Yes, Cooth!!! I thought it was monumental!!!

We may be in the process of doing something here – after all – Mnuchin is now the head honcho – love that guy!!!

duchess01

HMMM…
Green Castle
https://youtu.be/hn2kh1qAh_M

charlie

POTUS speaking tonight 9:00 PM EST?
How can we listen?

kalbokalbs

EBS?

charlie

The Marshall Report has an “URGENT” President Trump will address the nation.
Newsmax Right Side Broadcasting One America News Network, America’sVoice News.
Scouring their sites – no info.???

smiley2

is it thru The Emergency Broadcasting System…??

if so…radio ?

kalbokalbs

My understanding is EBS crosses all platforms. Probably scalable, types of platforms to be used.

smiley2

ok thanks.

smiley2

thanks…geez…I feel like I’m in Nazi Germany in the 40s.

Fireside Chats and all.

Harry Lime

It’s alright, Smiley, I know a little German…

GA/FL

There are no links anywhere.

Not White House Live, CSPAN, RSBN – nowhere.

kalbokalbs

Rabbit hole?

MAGA Mom

Seems like we have gone through this the last 2-3 evenings in a row.

Gail Combs

Ten Days of Darkness?

MAGA Mom

What is “dark” about rumors that POTUS is going to speak? Seems we are in the 10 days of rumors phase

singingsoul1

Was on OAN and YouTube

rayzorback

Link please?

I can’t believe that there was not an “Official” announcement.

MAGA Mom

Well, I guess we can’t complain about the RNC elections and complain that they don’t support President Trump. She was His choice for reelection. If anyone else had won they would not have been supporting President Trump

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/trump-aligned-tommy-hicks-jr-wins-rnc-co-chair-in-key-proxy-battle

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/politics/rnc-members-in-florida-love-trump

Gingersmom2009

The Republican Party/RNC is dead and gone. Those two can turn off the lights.

MAGA Mom

Why? RNC elected exactly who President Trump wanted them to elect. If you don’t like who won the RNC elections are you disagreeing with President Trump and his choices for leadership?

Who are your RNC members and how did they vote? Had you contacted them prior to the election and voiced your opinion about how they should vote, who they should elect, etc.?

GOP is far from finished. I attended a GOP meeting in a county several hours away on Saturday – packed! Unless Trump …

The RNC does not control the Senators.

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Gingersmom2009

And there are plenty of GOP’ers in DC too — real upstanding bunch. Just movin’ on doesn’t work for most people that are paying attention. But whatever floats your boat.

RF121

You really sure PT is all in on the RNC after the past week?

MAGA Mom

Did you read the links? He called them on Thursday since he couldn’t make it in person.

However, if he leaves the party all bets are off.

RF121

He had to play with the RNC to get things done. Pretty sure he knows it is not his friend. And no, it cannot be fixed.

MAGA Mom

The articles are from his calls and endorsements last week – 3 days ago
Why was he “playing” along 3 days ago?

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RF121

Maybe because he is still President and needs to get shit done. We will know his decision once everything is settled in a couple of weeks. Then he will let us know his plan.

Some people will never go back to the RNC. Some will probably not join a new party either.

If you think RNC can be fixed and worked with. Go for it and good luck. But then there is a time for things to die and be replaced with something new.

Gail Combs

The Whigs and the Reboobs will be joining them.

They had LESS than 20% support of the population. Now they have lost a sizable chunk of that 18%

Gail Combs

As I have pointed out more than one when given a choice of the DemonRats, Tea Party & the Reboobs, the Reboobs came out DEAD LAST at 18% even the ‘I do not know’ @ 22% was higher.

If POTUS wants to make a NEW party the Reboobs are DEAD, DEAD DEAD!

No one like turncoats and at least the DemonRats do not hide what they are.

grandmaintexas

Got your angle now, girl.

GOPe. 😁

Gingersmom2009

Yes, the “can’t we all just get along and let bygones be bygones” crowd. I’m convinced it’s a role. Every dead horse it beats here is playing a role.

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yucki

Yesterday anonymoushorse was here.

Had some … uh … intemporate words.

Making the same point.

MAGA Mom

Sad to see unfounded crazy theories born.

If I was GOPe why would I have been gunho for President Trump in the 2016 primary?

All I did was post 2 articles about POTUS and the RNC concerning things that took place mere days ago and post 1/6

Gail Combs

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MAGA Mom

How is it GOPe when I merely posted President Trump’s endorsements at the RNC this past week?

I am echoing President Trump

rayzorback

I suggest you give it up.
Nobody is listening.

Gingersmom2009

Exactly.

MAGA Mom

I listened and responded

You opinion wasn’t impactful because you didn’t read the links or know the difference between your Congressman and your RNC members or realize my post was about the RNC elections and had ZERO to do with the Congressional votes on 1/6.

President Trump won in the RNC elections this week. Why did that trigger so much hateful meltdown?

RF121

Because the vast majority here are not party people. They are Trump, MAGA people. We understand Trump has to work within that framework to be the Republican leader.

But we also know, that party hates Trump and they tolerate him because they need us. But since the election we have all seen the party do nothing to support him. So this crowd is not going to do anything for the GOP.

Gail Combs

BINGO!!!

kalbokalbs

^^^ PERFECTLY stated rf.

Me = TRUMP TRAIN.

Me = NOPE RNC & GOP.

BOTTOM LINE.

America First.

Aubergine

EXACTLY!

I got it at the same time!

GOPe operative.

Good call.

RF121

She is very similar with this and covid. Presents all this info, got the links, the logical arguments etc. But forgets about the way most of us look at things. Using common sense.

Aubergine

Reading what this supposed person writes is a bit like reading something an A.I. would write. So tone-deaf it seems like a Borg.

RF121

She is committed I will say that. I don’t want to slam her for her passion on these topics. But she is a tone deaf as to how it is received.

anonymoushorse

Thank you, Aubergine, I have been waiting (impatiently) for this to become clear.

holly

Me too.

Gingersmom2009

Jeff Van Drew voted the right way. And to be perfectly honest, we should not HAVE to be riding herd on everyone constantly to try to insure that they do the right thing. Integrity should be a GIVEN, not the rarity that it has become. The citizenry have their own lives to lead, their own responsibilities and families. The GOP is done, their true colors are waving in the breeze. And I’m done as well. Have a good night.

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MAGA Mom

Jeff Van Drew is not a member of the RNC. He is a Congressman.

Do you know your state’s members of the RNC are? Do you know how they voted in the RNC elections?

The people *President Trump* endorsed in the RNC elections won. Why are people upset that the people *President Trump* endorced were reelected?

Gingersmom2009

I made a few other points apart from referencing Van Drew. But you conveniently ignore. As I said, you’re playing a role. A tired one. I make the mistake of actually stating things logically – hoping for logic in return. Everyone else blows you off with one sentence. I think I’ll follow suit.

Aubergine

I figured out that logic and facts have ZERO effect on this one. It’s not worth your energy.

Gingersmom2009

yup.

Gingersmom2009

Past tense of endorse is endorsed.

MAGA Mom

This past week he endorsed them. mere days ago.

Did you bother to read the links? You are not even making sense.

Van Drew has Nothing to do with the RNC votes this past week.

MAGA Mom

Based on your comments, I take it that you do not know who your RNC members are. You can look them up here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_National_Committee#Current_Republican_National_Committee_members

Based on your comments, I take it that, No, you did not contact them about the RNC votes, RNC policies, RNC bylaws, etc.

Based on your comments, I take it you do not know how they voted in the RNC election which is the election discussed in the links I posted.

Based on your comments I wonder if you know how the RNC members from your state are chosen … ??

Based on your comments, we are all reminded that many Republican voters, MAGA voters and conservatives actually do not know how the SECs, the RNC, much less the county level GOPs work, are not involved and therefore have no idea how to make an impact on them for the better.

This highlights that we have not done all we could, that we have Much more work to, many opportunities that haven’t even been tried and, maybe most of all, much more educating of the general voting public to accomplish.

Gingersmom2009

There is NO GOP’s work. You are either delusional or playing a role. The GOP as an entity is dead. The RNC as the fundraising arm of the GOP is dead. No one will be giving any money. And I don’t give a rat’s behind who POTUS was obligated to rubber stamp for whatever reason, at some former time. He supported Kelly Loeffler when that had to be done, so what. NO ONE is supporting the GOP except the Mitt Romneys, and those who are OK with the Mitt Romneys. If you’re good with it, as I said – whatever floats your boat. But if you ever expect for people to be willing to hear you out, maybe – you need to lose the smarmy, overbearing, superior tone. After all, you ARE just a stranger on the internet. And you can’t hold a candle to Catturd.

MAGA Mom

I just posted to links about the RNC elections and the Good News that President Trump’s endorsed candidates won and you were triggered.

Learn the difference between your Representative and your RNC members, read the links and then attack. But you are attacking without even reading the links or knowing what you are talking about. Why?

Why did posting the Good News that President Trump’s influence in the RNC is strong and will continue upset you so much?

Aubergine

Ronna, is that you?

rayzorback

lol…. I was just about to ask that

grandmaintexas

Laughable. He supported those who were presented to him to support. Good Lord. 🙄

MAGA Mom

that is why he called them Thursday morning? Did you even read the articles?

singingsoul1

I never was a Republican not democrat. I learned something from my parents and grandparents never join a party they never did for very good reason. I finally became a citizen so I could vote for Trump. Presidents like him do come about every 100 years if lucky.
Party is like Union I do not like clubs did not like what I saw.
RNC gives us candidates that are turkeys do not have my values no character.
RNC has now a chance to show the Trump supporters that they are the new party and are not gobbled up by the Conway’s and Kristall and that establishment ilk.
RNC failed to protect the voting system by that failed to protect our votes..

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suzyqster58

Honest, plain and simple ,thank you grandma😊

MAGA Mom

All I did was post that the RNC elected those that President Trump endorsed and that was a good thing. Thought I was just posting a news update. Had no idea so many would find a post that President Trump’s endorsed RNC candidates won as controversial. Thought it was just a post of news and onto the next news bit. It was an encouraging, posititive news story … and yet look at the responses.

And you called me GOPe.  🙄 

And now you do a full blog post on being involved in the local GOP … just as I have called for and talked about for years at OT and here + repeatedly since 1/6.

Ironic. Maybe be a little more cautious of who you accuse of what … ???
Now that you are posting for people to be inolved in the county and state GOP’s …. are you know to be looked at with side eye, called a shill, a chinese spy, a GOPe … ???

Of course not!

Why, because we, both you and I, are encouraging people to get involved to MAGA. Period.

Never did make any logic sense as to why I would be GOPe if I am encouraging MAGA voters to be involved in the GOP. GOPe wants we MAGA people to leave, to quit. smh …

Well, as long as MAGA people get involved doesn’t really matter to me who gets the credit. that isn’t the point … just as long as they do it so that we can MAGA and win.  🇺🇸 

RF121
gil00

No sheet.
Tryingbto hard to just get it to load. I cant though.

RF121

They said they just got 4 out of 10 new servers going. Traffic up 753% today. Yep, going to be slow.

gil00

Arghhhh.. itll be great at 10 of 10…but I think they may need more!

RF121

Torba mentioned they were getting more hardware purchased.

gil00

So many are still completly ignorant to everything, and she knows a whole lot more than me!

gil00

I cannot get gab to load. It just sits and sits.
If thats all we have, Torba better get hopping faster…..

para59r

Gab.com is under maintenance

Sorry for the inconvenience but we’re performing some maintenance at the moment. We’ll be back online shortly!

— The Team
Cloudflare message:Web server is returning an unknown errorThere is an unknown connection issue between Cloudflare and the origin web server. As a result, the web page can not be displayed.

  • Ray ID: 60fac7a84fa2c7ea
  • Your IP address: 2600:1700:2670:5cf0:f049:27c8:5dd7:bbfc
  • Error reference number: 520
  • Cloudflare Location: Dallas

Interesting. Cloudflare is in Dallas.
If they take Gab down, they should get the same plus and eye toward the servers.

RF121

They can’t take down GAB the same way they took down Parler. They own their own hardware. They would have to hit the distribution hubs which would be a different matter. My Cloudfare shows Denver.

para59r

“My Cloud shows Denver” Yes. sees they are home based in San Fran. Maybe the Dallas thing was for me or Gab?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloudflare

gil00

I got that now, course its los angeles.

kalbokalbs

Gab is very slow for me. Lots of surging demand. Probably “attacks” from bad guys trying to cripple or otherwise bring Gab down.

phoenixrising

or, tons of peeps trying to get on?

GA/FL

Yep.

gil00

They will start the conservative round up under the health n safety covid guise. I think theyll jusrmt start saying we are so infected its killing us off and the new strain is si bad theyll need mass graves. GA, theyre going to kill us if they have all the power.

GA/FL

Or work farms.

Gail Combs

Only for the young.

Harry Lime

Gosh…everything I watched as a child is coming true…

A lot of those old-time directors got their ideas from experience.

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smiley2

I watched The Train last night, for the umpteenth time since highschool days.

all that art !

Vive la Resistance !

suzyqster58

Sounds horrible i know but yes they will kill us and consume us. We are viewed as human crop,cattle. When the truth is laid before everyone it will be ghastly. A lot will not be able to wrap their minds around such horrors.prep supply side but prep mentally also

smiley2

Pelosi Gives Pence 24 Hrs To Activate 25th Amendment

link…

https://breaking911.com/breaking-pelosi-gives-pence-24hrs-to-activate-25th-amendment/

(today)

well…so much for her being “arrested”.

so much for her and The US Constitution.

Cuppa Covfefe

Pelosi cannot tell VP Pence to blow his nose…

He does NOT report to her.

SHE’S CRAZY.

Take her out with the 25th (hmmm, is that FIVE FIFTHS? No wonder she likes it so much….)….. DRUNK WITH POWER…..

smiley2

absolutely.

#NoWayNancy

singingsoul1

What does Pelosi have on Pence that she thinks she can lord over him? Sure worked on the 6th she thinks it work again?

SteveInCO

Possibly that’s a deadline before they start impeachment proceedings.

kalbokalbs

Impeachment is effectively DOA. yes, the House can do as Crazy Nanzi demands. The Senate IS adjourned until 1PM 20 January.

As usual, I may be missing some key details.

MAGA Mom

Impeachment is Not DOA.

The Senate is not needed for President Trump to be impeached.

They wil, most likely, impeach President Trump in the House, almost immediately. They only need a simply majority and the Dems have a simple majority.

Why do you think the impeachment is DOA and that the Senate being absent has an impact on the impeachment?

kalbokalbs

OK, YES, the House can do as Nanzi demands.

THEN the whole impeachment drill is DOA. Senate IS adjourned.

WHAT, did I miss? Other than D-Rat and fake news headlines?

MAGA Mom

He can still be impeached by the House, just not convicted and removed as long as the senate remains in recess.

Impeachment is literally not DOA. Conviction and removal are (hopefully)

kalbokalbs

YA> Get over it. IT is ALL a PR sham to paint ill of president Trump.

literally impeachment CAN happen. BFD. IT IS THEN MOOT. Senate will do NOTHING.

MAGA Mom

Geez … wasn’t trying to upset you.

Just that impeachment if far from DOA and probably will happen … the opposite of what you posted.

Does no one care about facts around here any more?

Truth doesn’t care about feelings. And why get upset about correct info? Don’t we want correct info?

kalbokalbs

Upset, me? Oh no. Just not going to indulge any fanciful talk that GOP and RNC give a rats ass about every day Americans. They don’t.

Do as you wish.

Even the RNC and GOP here in NV have donw NOTHING to protect the vote.

Emailed the asshoes, EVERY RNC elected official in NV, daily for a while after the 3 November election was obviously stolen.

NV GOP and RNC reply… C R I C K E T S.

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MAGA Mom

what has the RNC “debate” have to do with the fact that impeachment is very likely much less not DOA?

Trial, conviction and removal are DOA but impeachment isn’t.

that is the only point I was making so that others who didn’t know what you meant and took your comment at face value would not be surprised or disapointed today as impeachment rolls forward.

there are so many rumors and misinfo … just trying to be clear about impeachment

MAGA Mom

Perhaps you are thinking of removal if convicted by the Senate after the House impeaches?

“In impeachment proceedings, the defendant does not risk forfeiture of life, liberty, or property. According to the Constitution, the only penalties allowed to be imposed by the Senate are removal from office and disqualification from holding any federal office in the future.”

Helpful review:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_States

Aubergine

AOC said 25th and Pelosi thought she said “twenty fifths,” so she went all in!

Cuppa Covfefe

LOL!

Her favorite response in hearings is “I’ll take the Fifth”, and she usually does…
in one go…

GA/FL

FL cat with attitude is so right. I won’t vote for any of the Demon Rats or Repugnant Cons ever again.

Gingersmom2009

Hey MM ^ ^ ^ THIS.

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MAGA Mom

My post was about President Trump’s clear support of the RNC this past week.

You want to abandon the RNC because of the Senator’s votes which have nothing to do with the RNC … why? How does that make sense?

If we support President Trump, then why are we abandoning the RNC when they Literally just elected his endorsed candidates?

President Trump is supporting the RNC – why wouldn’t President Trump’s supporters then support the RNC?

Do we follow President Trump’s lead or not?

I will follow President Trump’s lead over a stranger posting on twitter. But you do you.

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GA/FL

We are ANGRY because of the Republicans’ lack of support for OUR GOOD PRESIDENT TRUMP on the 6th – and – they have done NOTHING to defend ELECTION INTEGRITY and have made our votes worth nothing.

HECK NO – I WON’T FORGET!!!!!!!!! EVER!!!!!

You can do what you want.

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Gail Combs

The RNC is CORRUPT TO THE CORE!

MAGA Mom

We either follow President Trump’s leadership or we don’t.

What triggered Ginger’s Mom off on this is that I posted to articles concerning the RNC – both demonstrating President Trump’s support of the RNC and the RNC’s support of President Trump.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/trump-aligned-tommy-hicks-jr-wins-rnc-co-chair-in-key-proxy-battle

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/politics/rnc-members-in-florida-love-trump

kalbokalbs

Trump Train YES.

RNC – NO. NEVER AGAIN. DONE WITH THEM RNC BACK STABBING BASTARDS.

MAGA Mom

Who in the RNC backstabbed President Trump? Currently if office RNC? They literally just elected who endorsed!

kalbokalbs

Step away for a moment, your support to local GOP, RNC or wheoever they are.

WHAT has the RNC done to help show the election steal? 

President Trump GOT HIMSELF RE-ELECTED.

NO DUNCE at RNC did a damn thing to reelect President Trump.

RNC and GOP tagged onto Trump 2020 web site to fund raise. NOT President Trump tag along with RNC and GOP.

RNC and GOP have fought President Trump for four plus years.

anonymoushorse

You know, if you keep feeding the Troll it won’t go away.

holly

Spot on.

Tom F

I feel like I have a stone in my shoe.

Gingersmom2009

OMG, brilliant!

smiley2

what the hell is your problem ??

all you do is provoke arguments here, hanging onto a dead topic like a dawg with a bone to pick.

you harass ppl here, you hound ppl here, you stalk ppl here…and then you come back around again, and do it some more.

what the hell is your problem, exactly ?

do you know ?

anonymoushorse

It’s a Troll attempting to demoralize us.

smiley2

absolutely…s/he’s more & more OBNOXIOUS about it, every day s/he hovers here.

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. Attempting to continue the illusion that there are two parties, rather than the UniParty controlled by the Elites: Illuminati, Satan Soros, Satan himself, and the Dragon: the Red Chinese (note that the Dragon is a symbol of Satan)…

Anything but MAGA, in other words…

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smiley2

I’m starting to think it’s Mittens in drag.

para59r

Nah. The RNC needs to move back to their base. They are the ones that have abandoned us.

TheseTruths

I’m not advocating for one side or the other in this discussion. I only want to say this: Pres. Trump has done what he had to do to get enough members of Congress, and especially of the Senate, to keep him from being convicted and removed from office after impeachment, to get judges confirmed (including SCOTUS), and hopefully to move some of his policies through.

I don’t know what he thinks of the RNC per se, but he has had to work closely with them to try to get Repubs elected. I don’t consider this to be a ringing endorsement of them; it is part of the strategy.

Where were the Repubs that Pres. Trump worked so hard for, and with, on Jan. 6? (Where was the RNC?) We’re tired of having our chains jerked and being betrayed over and over. And Pres. Trump has been betrayed in the biggest way possible.

I do think that if we all abandon the Republican Party, we will give power to the Dems. I don’t know what the solution to that dilemma is.

grandmaintexas

She’s gauging what the GOPe has to do to retain Trump voters.

Cold, hard fact: the GOP is over. I would no more vote for GOP than a Dem…they are identical in eventual outcomes.

We’ve voted for these asses for decades, hoping to slow the inevitable. They can go eff themselves forever.

holly

Exactly! It’s using us for info. mining.

I thought It was just a troll, but figured it out when wolf posted something about his plans for going forward after being in D.C.

It asked if he would post what his thoughts and plans were.

kalbokalbs

RNC IS DEAD TO ME. DNR – Do Not Resuscitate. F’m all.

MAGA Mom

Why? Seriously, what did the RNC do that makes you so upset?

I am upset with many Republicans in Congress …. but what did the RNC do?

Gail Combs

Are you really THAT STUPID???

The RNC PUT those people IN OFFICE! I watched it happen real time. We tried to primary that bastard Burr but the RNC sent people down to President Trump’s campaign office FOR THE SPECIFIC PURPOSE of SUPPORTING BURR NOT TRUMP!

I had a shouting match with one of the SOBs.

TheseTruths

I have heard of this happening numerous times over the years.

Cuppa Covfefe

Exactly.

R ulers
N ow
C hina

is their agenda, led by the likes of Mittens, Miss Lindsey, and the ghost of John McShame…

kalbokalbs

RNC abandonded President Trump. Recall Rudy, Sidney and Jenna presser. They talked about Dominion and going after all the asshoes elected via Dominion fraud. including GOP.

Day or two later, Sidney publicly disassociated with trump Team. Reports were RNC did not want to pay Sidney legal bills.

Gingersmom2009

Bye.

kalbokalbs

RNC IS a bad joke on Americans.

RNC abandoned President Trump right after the election. AS have MOST RepubliCONs.

RepubliCONs AND RNC have essentially done NOTHING to expsose the election steal. Them asshoes are embracing Beijing Biden, Cry’n Chuckster and Nitwit Nan. Many have gone along with Trump 6 January rally violent and dangerous. Plus, these same dirt bags talk about Presidemnt Trump resigning, being impeached…

RNC and RepubliCONs ARE fully aligned with d-Rats, deep state Wall Street and big tech.

these shitheads couldn’t support President Trump veto of NDAA(?) to hopefully trash 230 and a rafter of other things that should have been STOPPED.

  • RepubliCONs and RNC are nearly in lock step against President Trump.

Won’t banter back and forth on this. This IS what I have read for two plus months since the election.

singingsoul1

The RNC had a working retreat on some Island Jan 5 when the GA election was held. How much do they really care who gets elected? They should have been working in GA or did they know they would loose?

MAGA Mom

They worked tirelessly in GA since 11/3. Huge #s of phone calls, doors knocked on, etc. Reached out to fellow states … we made phone calls from TN due to our leadership getting out the info.

Did no one here help make phone calls for GA through the RNC?!  😱 

We signed volunteers for GA at our Stop the Steal in Nashville rallies.

How do you all not know all the RNC was doing in GA?! Wow, just wow.

singingsoul1

Dr Gina on her show said the only people in one of the voting counting places in GA was her husband and another volunteer from Florida no one else there. A person said that the RNC was on retreat on an Island for 5 days I believe (and did not finish their job my comment.)

jamcooker

It was obvious that no matter what the RNC did on the ground, the fraud was already baked in. Look at the state party, it’s controlled by the uni party, all owned by the Chicoms. The people that control the various state parties are the ones that need to go, and since they hold the reins, the only way you are going to reform the party is to somehow clean out ALL the upper echelon. They will never let anyone in that doesn’t think the way they do. If you think you can make a difference on a lower level think again. You’ve been being used. How do I know? DH ran for office eons ago before I met him, and almost upset the incumbent R, but he was too conservative for the party. They really didn’t appreciate him almost getting the incumbent out.

MAGA Mom

How is the RNC against President Trump? They worked, cooridinated voluteers, etc. I take no one here volunteered? If so you would know all they were doing.
https://www.gop.com/by-the-numbers-the-rncs-unprecedented-ground-game/

No, they did not abandon President Trump but worked along side him to fight election fraud. They demanded audits, created a website to help follow the various cases, etc.
https://www.gop.com/why-audits-matter/

kalbokalbs

S M D H.

We’ll never agree on this.

DONE.

yucki

Sounds like you’re pitching for a cult.
Every movement has groupies, but I haven’t found many here.

I was Tea Party before MAGA and I’ll be KAG from my little corner of eternity.

PTrump is my hero.

Full.
Stop.

I’ll always think for myself.

MAGA Mom

Sounds like you are not listening to President Trump. His endorsed candidates won this week and he called them to congratulate them.

Do we follow President Trump’s lead on the RNC or not?

yucki