“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
President Trump addressed the troops, laying out the case for overturning the election:
I will address the skunks and yellow bellies in Congress in the Daily Thread. POTUS DID try to set up the reality for us. Not everyone wanted to believe what happened would.
This is essentially a place to stash information about the MAGA/Stop the Steal Rally in Washington. This post is a place for the people who went to give us the low down on what REALLY happened as the reports are conflicting.
Please, remember, AT NO TIME should live “I am here” information should be shared. Hopefully, all of our people who attended made it out safely. Even if there is nothing else to say, please check in and let us know you are unharmed in the comments.
As for the invasion of the Capitol and driving Congress from it…the fog of war hasn’t faded, and other than the young lady who was shot and is in critical condition needing our prayers, nothing is for certain.
This is essentially a place to stash information about the MAGA/Stop the Steal Rally in Washington. This post is about the happenings on Wednesday.
For people actually travelling to Washington and there for the festivities, the boss put up a thread for pre-rally logistics. Here you go.
Please, remember, AT NO TIME should live “I am here” information should be shared. I’ll have a thread up later for stories, etc., once everyone is either home or on their way home for those who wish to share any of the above.
In the meantime, this is what is planned here at the Q Tree:
THIS is thread 2 the live thread for those of us who could not get away to at least participate in spirit if not in person.
Thread 3 will be posted late Wednesday for stories, photos, and the like from our Q-Treepers who wish to share them.
These are not to take the place of the daily threads, but to be a place to stash all the rally info.
And what’s going on in the swamp, courtesy of Matt Couch:
Daniel 4:35 All the inhabitants of the earth are accounted as nothing, and He does according to His will among the host of heaven and among the inhabitants of the earth; and none can stay His hand or say to Him, “What have You done?”
Jeremiah 29:11 For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans for welfare and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope.
Proverbs 16:4 The Lord has made everything for its purpose, even the wicked for the day of trouble.
Nehemiah 9:6 “You are the Lord, you alone. You have made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth and all that is on it, the seas and all that is in them; and You preserve all of them; and the host of heaven worships You.
Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done . . .
There are many conditional promises in the Bible. God will do this if we do that. God will relent if we repent. God will answer if we pray.
Perhaps the most famous example of this in the Scriptures in 2 Chronicles 7:14, spoken by the Lord to King Solomon after the building of the first temple in Jerusalem.
Starting in v. 13 for context, it reads, “When I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain, or command the locust to devour the land, or send pestilence among my people, if My people who are called by My name humble themselves, and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.”
Now, we cannot make a direct application of this verse to the USA, since America is not chosen in the sense that Israel was chosen, and God does not call our entire nation “My people.”
Yet, since there are tens of millions of His people in America, to the extent we humble ourselves and repent and pray, I believe that God will answer from heaven and mercy on our nation.
How, then, does this apply to the outcome of the elections? And, when all is said and done and the votes are fully counted, can we say, “The will of God has been done”?
I believe the answer is yes, we can say, “God’s will was done,” regardless of the outcome.
I say that because for much of this year, there has been a steady stream of prayer ascending to heaven.
The impeachment hearings drove us to prayer.
The pandemic drove us to prayer.
The protests and riots drove us to prayer.
The elections drove us to prayer.
Even now, as I write, 24/7 prayer vigils are taking place around the world – and I mean prayer vigils for America.
Millions have been crying out for mercy, for God’s intervention, for His will to be carried out in our land.
On September 26 alone, there were two massive gatherings in DC, Franklin Graham’s Prayer March and The Return.
Another large gathering took place on October 25, also in DC, focused on worship and prayer, including a special prayer meeting outside the Supreme Court.
Pastors and leaders who never prayed together have been gathering for regular online prayer meetings focused on repentance and abasement and seeking of mercy.
Churches that have gathered together despite the pandemic have devoted time in their meetings for prayer.
Another major event in DC culminated immediately before I started to write this article, with seasoned participants saying that they never seen such a prayer emphasis in their lives.
That’s why I truly believe that whatever the outcome of the elections we will be able to say, “The will of God was done.”
I know that there are some who believe that, when it comes to the leader of a nation, the will of God is always done. In other words, they believe that God sets up one leader and brings down another. And, despite the fact that we get to vote for our presidents here, they still say, “The president is the one whom God appointed to be president.”
But when Trump was elected in 2016, against all odds and with so many prophetic words saying it would happen, I wrote an article titled, “Donald Trump, President of the United States by the Sovereign Intervention of God.”
It seemed to be a clear example of God’s sovereign hand. Outside of His working, I could not see this happening.
This doesn’t mean that there was only one divine purpose involved. As David G. noted on Twitter, in his view, the Lord’s raising up Trump has been “a mercy, a judgment, and a test.”
I concur with this, recognizing multiple divine purposes in the Trump presidency.
When it comes to the outcome of the 2020 elections, with the amount of prayer and fasting that has taken place, whoever the winner is, I will be convinced that God’s will was done.
That being said, it’s possible that His answer will be the opposite of what we wanted in the short term, only to lead to greater good in the long term.
To be sure, it is possible that He will answer with great mercy, giving us time to mend our ways while our liberties remain protected.
But it’s also possible that He will answer with judgment, something to humble us and drive us to an even deeper place of contrition. Have we really gotten to the place called for in Joel 2, where we rend our hearts, where we weep and wail, where we grieve deeply over our corporate and personal sins? Could it be that, with an outcome that is to our liking, we will return to our complacent state?
Only God knows the answers to these questions. But I truly believe that He has heard our prayers for intervention and that His purposes will come to pass.
Should Trump be reelected, I will focus my energy on calling for ongoing prayer, repentance, and obedience, leading to revival in the church and awakening in the nation.
Should Biden be elected, I will focus my energy on calling for ongoing prayer, repentance, and obedience, leading to revival in the church and awakening in the nation.
Either way, I will not point to a biased media or to voter fraud or to low (evangelical?) voter turnout as the decider of the elections.
I will point to the one who sits enthroned in heaven. He is the King, after all.
Yesterday saw the beginning of the gathering of the masses in Washington. A thread is dedicated to yesterday’s information. It can be accessed here. Sometime after this daily publishes, there will be another post for Wednesday’s goings on.
In the meantime, it looks like the run-off election in Georgia was a train wreck. How bad of one it was may not be known for some time.
And still, the show goes on.
It’s either this or the theme from Indiana Jones. Although, I don’t think POTUS and his team are making all of this up as they go along.
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45Immediately he made his disciples get into the boat and go before him to the other side, to Beth-sa’ida, while he dismissed the crowd. 46And after he had taken leave of them, he went up on the mountain to pray. 47And when evening came, the boat was out on the sea, and he was alone on the land. 48And he saw that they were making headway painfully, for the wind was against them. And about the fourth watch of the night he came to them, walking on the sea. He meant to pass by them, 49but when they saw him walking on the sea they thought it was a ghost, and cried out; 50for they all saw him, and were terrified. But immediately he spoke to them and said, “Take heart, it is I; have no fear.” 51And he got into the boat with them and the wind ceased. And they were utterly astounded, 52for they did not understand about the loaves, but their hearts were hardened.
As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome.
Please include: President Donald Trump, the Q team, our soldiers in the field, special forces, tactical units, members of the Cabinet, first responders and those working behind the scenes…and any and all people with family members in the hospital, COVID or not.
And please add all the legal teams as they take our fight to court.
