2023·01·07 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

EDIT: 22:54 MT. Well let’s just say the top item didn’t age well…except perhaps for the deserved insults to Speaker Dungsmear.

I can only hope McCarthy keeps his promises.

Giving Our “Love” To A Certain RINO POS

Sundance of Banhammer Central, addressing Kevin “Dungsmear” McCarthy:

(See, this is how you do it, Sundance. Don’t drone on for ten thousand words, half of which are selected [and many of those misused] solely for their two-dollar value.)

More seriously, have you ever seen a more blatant example of how the Republican Party simply does not care about what its voters want? (Except of course to figure out what positions they need to mindlessly parrot when doing town halls and campaigning.)

Most of the base loathes McCarthy, and all but twenty of the Republicans in the House of Representatives insist on voting for him for Speaker of the House, again and again, exemplifying the definition of insanity.

For those twenty standing their ground, you are heroes. For the rest…you’re RINO scum (or you’re acting like it so if, deep down, you aren’t I can’t tell and neither can any other actual American, so quit acting before we decide to terminate your careers). Lauren Boebert is not my representative…on paper. That honor is dishonorably discharged by Ken Buck. In spirit, however, Lauren IS my representative.

[Note: Now there are six holdouts. Five of whom say NO WAY to McCarthy. The others, I hope, got some very good concessions that will neuter the RINO to some extent. And of course two hours before this posts, they will try again, so (other than my note to Sundance) this may all be moot by the time it posts.]

[11:45 PM ET: Dungsmear lost again, but the House remains in session. Apparently Gaetz is being pressured to switch from “present” to “Dungsmear.” Ongoing…]

Now the most likely outcome is that McCarthy does indeed pick up that gavel, after having made a deal. Hopefully one that renders him powerless to interfere with a MAGA agenda.

RINOs an Endangered Species?
If Only!

(Well this is the perfect time for this to come up in the rotation!)

According to Wikipoo, et. al., the Northern White Rhinoceros (Ceratotherium simum cottoni) is a critically endangered species. Apparently two females live on a wildlife preserve in Sudan, and no males are known to be alive. So basically, this species is dead as soon as the females die of old age. Presently they are watched over by armed guards 24/7.

Biologists have been trying to cross them with the other subspecies, Southern White Rhinoceroses (Rhinoceri?) without success; and some genetic analyses suggest that perhaps they aren’t two subspecies at all, but two distinct species, which would make the whole project a lot more difficult.

I should hope if the American RINO (Parasitus rectum pseudoconservativum) is ever this endangered, there will be heroic efforts not to save the species, but rather to push the remainder off a cliff. Onto punji sticks. With feces smeared on them. Failing that a good bath in red fuming nitric acid will do.

But I’m not done ranting about RINOs.

The RINOs (if they are capable of any introspection whatsoever) probably wonder why they constantly have to deal with “populist” eruptions like the Trump-led MAGA movement. That would be because the so-called populists stand for absolutely nothing except for going along to get along. That allows the Left to drive the culture and politics.

Given the results of our most recent elections, the Left will now push harder, and the RINOs will now turn even squishier than they were before.

I well remember 1989-1990 in my state when the RINO establishment started preaching the message that a conservative simply couldn’t win in Colorado. Never mind the fact that Reagan had won the state TWICE (in 1984 bringing in a veto-proof state house and senate with him) and GHWB had won after (falsely!) assuring everyone that a vote for him was a vote for Reagan’s third term.

This is how the RINOs function. They push, push, push the line that only a “moderate” can get elected. Stomp them when they pull that shit. Tell everyone in ear shot that that’s exactly what the Left wants you to think, and oh-by-the-way-Mister-RINO if you’re in this party selling the same message as the Left…well, whythefuckexactly are you in this party, you lying piece of rancid weasel shit?

In Defense of Ranked Choice Voting

One of the biggest obstacles to direly-needed change is RINOs, and one of the weapons in their arsenal is the “Wasted Vote” argument.

Periodically a third party has arisen, trying to hold RINOs to account by putting pressure on them from outside of the party, since doing so from the inside has historically done very little good. But, even if you find a third party candidate who perfectly reflects your views, you’re likely to vote for the RINO anyway. Why? Because if you don’t, the Democrat might win, and that would be even worse. So if you vote for that third party (that few will vote for), you’re throwing your vote away and increasing the likelihood of the Democrat winning. (It’s half as much a gain for the Democrat, as actually voting for the Democrat would be. Not as much, but half as much. Because although you denied the R your vote, you did not flip your vote to the Democrat.)

The Republican Party Establishment knows you don’t love them. But they know you hate the Democrats worse, and they use that to continue to herd you into supporting them. With gritted teeth but your vote counts the same whether you cast it enthusiastically, or only because it’s probably a felony to piss on the voting apparatus.

But what if you could vote for that third party without increasing the changes of the Dem walking away with the prize?

This is what ranked choice voting, or instant runoff voting, can do provided it is properly implemented. (And this includes the votes, and only genuine votes, being counted honestly, of course. However, I’m going to compare it to what we have today, and pretend that is honestly done too. RCV can’t work if it’s not honestly administered, just like our current system isn’t working because it isn’t honestly administered.)

The idea behind RCV is to vote by expressing your order of preference. You could vote for the Patriot Party, then for the Rino Party as your second choice (and ignore the Democrat, the Green, the Overt Socialist Party, etc.)

What does this do? It nullifies the wasted vote argument. Your vote will be counted for the Patriot party, first, then instead of it being “wasted” when the Patriot Party loses, it ends up going to the RINO. Actually, it’s just barely possible that the Patriot Party would actually beat the RINO, if people weren’t all individually afraid to vote for it. (It’s just like the famous “Prisoner’s Dilemma” where your fear of other peoples’ actions prevents you from doing the optimal thing. As long as Job Lowe is afraid to vote Patriot because he’s afraid you’ll vote RINO, you’ll have to vote RINO because Job Lowe will.)

So on the whole I like RCV. It gives you a no-risk way to vote against the RINO scum, and in favor of someone who deserves your vote.

The problem is, as done here in the US, it comes packaged with a “jungle primary.” A bunch of candidates get to put their name out there, and the top four (or so) candidates get onto the “main” ballot. This gives party establishments their way around the threat of a good third party bumping them off. Because they know that few people bother with primaries, and third parties don’t have the resources to run in a primary…so they throw two or three establishment hacks into the primary and they will probably beat the third party. The result is the RINOs end up with two of the four slots in the general election, and the Dems get the other two. Now there’s suddenly no third party candidate on the ballot at all.

If we were to combine RCV with the present system where each party could nominate exactly one candidate to appear on the November ballot, or at the very least, ensure minor parties could get onto the ballot with at least one candidate regardless of the primary, we would be getting somewhere, but the establishment is smarter than we like to give them credit for. They will support the jungle primary + RCV “solution” rather than the more appropriate one-candidate-per-party + RCV solution.

It’s not RCV, it’s the primary structure grafted onto it.

Justice

It says “Justice” on the picture.

And I’m sure someone will post the standard joke about what the fish thinks about the situation.

But what is it?

Here’s a take, from a different context: It’s about how you do justice, not the justice that must be done to our massively corrupt government and media. You must properly identify the nature of a person, before you can do him justice.

Ayn Rand, On Justice (speaking through her character John Galt, in Atlas Shrugged):

Justice is the recognition of the fact that you cannot fake the character of men as you cannot fake the character of nature, that you must judge all men as conscientiously as you judge inanimate objects, with the same respect for truth, with the same incorruptible vision, by as pure and as rational a process of identification—that every man must be judged for what he is and treated accordingly, that just as you do not pay a higher price for a rusty chunk of scrap than for a piece of shining metal, so you do not value a rotter above a hero—that your moral appraisal is the coin paying men for their virtues or vices, and this payment demands of you as scrupulous an honor as you bring to financial transactions—that to withhold your contempt from men’s vices is an act of moral counterfeiting, and to withhold your admiration from their virtues is an act of moral embezzlement—that to place any other concern higher than justice is to devaluate your moral currency and defraud the good in favor of the evil, since only the good can lose by a default of justice and only the evil can profit—and that the bottom of the pit at the end of that road, the act of moral bankruptcy, is to punish men for their virtues and reward them for their vices, that that is the collapse to full depravity, the Black Mass of the worship of death, the dedication of your consciousness to the destruction of existence.

Ayn Rand identified seven virtues, chief among them rationality. The other six, including justice, she considered subsidiary because they are essentially different aspects and applications of rationality.

—Ayn Rand Lexicon (aynrandlexicon.com)

Justice Must Be Done.

Trump, it is supposed, had some documents.

Biden and company stole the country.

I’m sure enough of this that I put my money where my mouth is.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system. (This doesn’t necessarily include deposing Joe and Hoe and putting Trump where he belongs, but it would certainly be a lot easier to fix our broken electoral system with the right people in charge.)

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is pointless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud in the system is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

This will necessarily be piecemeal, state by state, which is why I am encouraged by those states working to change their laws to alleviate the fraud both via computer and via bogus voters. If enough states do that we might end up with a working majority in Congress and that would be something Trump never really had.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

Spot Prices

Last week:

Gold $1,825.50
Silver $24.08
Platinum $1,079.00
Palladium $1,869.00
Rhodium $12,900.00

This week, 3 PM MT on Friday, markets closed for the weekend

Gold $1,866.70
Silver $23.92
Platinum $1,100.00
Palladium $1,889.00
Rhodium $13,250.00

Everything other than silver is UP. Gold might actually exceed palladium soon at this rate. (I still remember when gold was $300-400 and palladium was $80 or so. Then palladium spiked overnight to $120 when cold fusion was announced by Pons and Fleischman.)

Obligatory PSAs and Reminders

China is Lower than Whale Shit

To conclude: My standard Public Service Announcement. We don’t want to forget this!!!

Remember Hong Kong!!!

https://youtube.com/watch?v=L3tnH4FGbd0

中国是个混蛋 !!!
Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!!
China is asshoe !!!

China is in the White House

Since Wednesday, January 20 at Noon EST, the bought-and-paid for Joseph Biden has been in the White House. It’s as good as having China in the Oval Office.

Joe Biden is Asshoe

China is in the White House, because Joe Biden is in the White House, and Joe Biden is identically equal to China. China is Asshoe. Therefore, Joe Biden is Asshoe.

But of course the much more important thing to realize:

Joe Biden Didn’t Win

乔*拜登没赢 !!!
Qiáo Bài dēng méi yíng !!!
Joe Biden didn’t win !!!

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cthulhu

“This would only be justice if it were McCarthy dangling in this talon.”

— little fish

TheseTruths

McCarthy is in, apparently.

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TheseTruths

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Brave and Free

Haha, LOL
Good one Steve.
😁 😅 😆

TheseTruths

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Dodge and FIB. EVIL.

TheseTruths

Concessions, from a tweet by Anna Paulina Luna:

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cthulhu

All of which will be reneged and repudiated by April.

cthulhu

Not that April….the other April — McCarthy’s press flack.

Brave and Free

And all unenforceable when there reneged.

eilert

The motion to vacate is actually a big deal:
It means McCarty must get 218 votes to stay as speaker, if this motion is invoked by one single member.

michaelh

Interesting.

pgroup2

A really good trick since he couldn’t get 218 to become speaker.

Aubergine

I’ll say what Scott always says:

Without a way to enforce it, it means nothing.

I guess we’ll see what happens.

Aubergine

Lol. True.

TheseTruths

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bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

McCarthy wins.

Yep, Dems went home. We got screwed.

428 total

McCarthy got 216
Jeffries got 212
Present 6

The last vote there was 432 total and McCarthy needed 217 to win. He only got 216 so no majority. This vote it looks like 4 Dems went home, so he needed 215 to win. What fresh hell did he promise Dems to arrange this???

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

OK, got ya. Still the presents don’t count. 216 + 212 = 428, Majority = 215

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

Basically, kinda. Then why the hell did they vote present if they didn’t frikkin count????

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

The point was to STOP him.

Aubergine

Yeah, not holding my breath.

On the plus side, there’s a photo out there of my guy Rosendale literally waving off a phone call from Trump.

I think he was not happy with the interference. I’m not sure I am either.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

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bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

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RDS

IMO, it was The Turtle and the DeepState who won the vote for Speaker last night. McCarthy is a “straw man” who will do and say as he’s instructed to.

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para59r

🙄Straw man as in conduit😠 . Yes, has been explained here before 😉

Charlie

The turtle and 45 were working the ropes all week. 45 met with McCarthy, then endorsed him. 45 taught “the art of war” leverage with congressmen to keep Kevie in place and to correct some of the house machinations. The 20 strong were playing the game as 45 would have. Know the outcome before the game begins. Two fold, the 20 strong had backbone, they came out looking better for it and they changed the way business is done in the house. 45 is teaching All of us how to stand and fight.

singingsoul1

Thank you for sharing your insight 🙂

cthulhu

Meanwhile, in the kitchen of the Fripp estate….

cthulhu

Somewhat less silly, in what will eventually be a studio at the Fripp estate…..

The funny thing about this is that it could just be a tremendously talented couple doing a cover of a Grace Jones song in their barn with a friend…..except that Toyah did it first. She actually laid down the guide vocal for the producer (Trevor Horn, IIRC) before the song’s demo was first shopped around. The very popular Grace Jones version is the cover.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

WTH? He said we are men, we are women. What happened to the other 999 genders??? OMG, he’s a racist, transphobic, misogynist, blah, blah, hater!!! 😱😱

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

Until the end. LOSER!!

RDS

Islam only recognizes males and females.

TradeBait2

Exactly. All the rest of that gender nonsense is phys ops to achieve what they want. They know the average leftie is a complete dumb azz.

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BillBeakman

& females are chattel.

Tonawanda

Calling anybody a racist is total delusion, and collaboration with our enemy.

This is a MAJOR blind spot on our side.

There is NO such thing as racism.

When we accuse anybody of racism, all we are doing is undermining the truth.

Why are we weaklings on this concept? It shows the extent of brainwashing and propaganda.

This is why our side is so far from winning.

True humanity is true humanity. True humanity has NOTHING to do with imputation of racism.

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Tonawanda

I deny that anybody, even alleged racists, thinks that anybody, including people in their same “group,” is exactly the same.

In my experience, everybody understands that each person is unique, regardless of group. This is probably because the uniqueness of every individual, regardless of the group they belong to, is readily apparent in every and all circumstances of life.

That people have certain similar characteristics, and that certain of those characteristics are found in different degrees – – often in widely disparate degrees – – in different “groups,” is capable of meaningful quantification, however imperfect, and that quantification is often reflected in the every day, common sense observations people make about life.

Sometimes walking to the other side of the street is just prudence based on valid risk assessment.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

What an ASSHOE, slamming Mar-A-Lago and Qanon. Getting rightly booed. PoS interjecting scripture in his diatribe is disgusting.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

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Donald J. Trump

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The “Speaker” selection process, as crazy as it may seem, has made it all much bigger and more important than if done the more conventional way. Congratulations to Kevin McCarthy and our GREAT Republican Party!

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Gingersmom2009

But – the PEOPLE didn’t want McCarthy. You know, the folks that are supposed to be represented. Is this lost on HIM now?

This is obtuse. His take on warp speed is obtuse. Did he mention our poor souls in Siberia ONCE yesterday?

Are these his first steps toward weaning the base off him, and trying to pass the baton?

I don’t know how to relate to this guy anymore.

Aubergine

It’s like he’s become a politician.

Gingersmom2009

Well, in about 90 days, when this all blows up in his face – what then?

Aubergine

I don’t know….

Gingersmom2009

me either – and I’m all out of 4-D chess too

Gail Combs

Of course POTUS Trump is a ‘politician’ He has been negotiating contracts his entire adult life. Do you think this is any different?

Oh, and speaking of building contracts, Stormy Patriot Joe was saying he worked for Trump as a tradesman. Contractors are hired and they then hire the tradesmen (All or most are union) The rank and file LOVED POTUS! Why? because he paid his bills on time and thus the contractor could then pay his tradesmen.

This may not sound like a big deal until, as a contractor, the SOBs hold up your check for 90 or 120 days AND YOU HAVE 3 months of bills to pay out of pocket. Holding the check is very common practice because YOU EARN INTEREST ON THAT MONEY.

….
Spags in Boston (actually Shrewsbury) took advantage of this. He did CASH ONLY. He would go to a company and negotiate. Then towards the end of the deal he would say, how much less if I pay cash that day? He got REALLY GOOD DEALS. He did not take checks or credit cards he was strictly cash. He did not unpack the merchandise either and used trailers instead of a warehouse thus avoiding tax since the goods were ‘intransit’  😋  So his prices were a good ten percent lower.

When he died, his kids hired a HAAAaaaavrd business school graduate who put in credit cards and other ‘spiffy’ stuff….. AND KILLED THE STORE! 😭 

(I still have stuff I bought at Spags)

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para59r

Fast look, last mention was indirect on the 24th when he retweeted this.

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Gingersmom2009

I was talking about Trump, not her.

singingsoul1

Trump is financially (paying for lawyers) supporting some Jan 6 people that is something.
Agree Trump should not injected himself into the speaker selection. Bad advice from the stoodges around him not good.

Charlie

It was never about Kevin. He is only a figure head now, the 20 strong have him in check. A major step in the right direction.

Gingersmom2009

I certainly hope so.

TradeBait2

Sorry, PDT. But that is complete bullshit as you would say. But play the game your way, We don’t have a say anyway.

RF121

You have to play the majority or you do not win. We are the fringe of the fringe. The odds of them making us happy are pretty low.

TheseTruths

Well stated.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

ART OF THE DEAL.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

EXACTLY.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

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pgroup2

Rudy shows he still has what it takes to be an alpha.

Gail Combs

I would loved to have seen Rudy as Speaker but his health is not good enough and he is needed more elsewhere.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

YUP.

The pictures of the climber being pushed off and falling to leg injuries – that is exactly the kind of image they didn’t want.

Did you miss anything because of it, in your opinion?

I saw that they arrested Ashli Babbitt’s MOM yesterday – for jaywalking!

TradeBait2

Nope, we don’t “think”, since we “know” that is was.

eilert

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Great letter – especially how she chides the Dems for saying that Congress functioning properly is “embarrassing”!

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TheseTruths

Point #4 is part of what made this process so interesting and what gives me some hope.

“When Congress actually functions as intended, when [we] were all on the Floor debating a path forward, the result is far better for the American people than when governing is done behind closed doors.”

For the first time, I was able to see part of the process, to hear about some of the rules, and to understand what the Freedom Caucus has been up against. Knowledge is power. I believe FC members will continue to make things transparent and I believe they will hold McCarthy accountable, just as we will hold them accountable.

pgroup2

And our yoke on the FC members is easy, just as Christ’s yoke on us is easy.

For the dense among us [who don’t know they are dense  😆 ], a yoke is easy when the yoke wearer walks the same direction as the yoke holder. [think of a dog that is leash trained]

holly08

para59r

😖 🙄 🤔 Hrmmm… sold out or ancient tactic? Guess we won’t know for sure unless Frank moves out. 😮

para59r

Meanwhile there’s this… wish I could bring the video out. Tucker talking to Massie. Worth a listen. It hints that the twenty were not working alone. That they may of been working a larger coordinated plan.

https://dailycallernewsfoundation.org/2023/01/06/rep-massie-confirms-seat-on-church-committee-vows-to-reveal-any-illegal-or-unconstitutional-govt-acts/

singingsoul1

She turned out to be trash. Sorry I am so rude but I saw her turn the two faced behavior. She fooled me for a while wanted to believe she was real but she is a fake like a two dollar bill. I do not like to be fooled.

Gail Combs

Two dollar bills are real. I have a stack of them I got from my bank.

You mean a three dollar bill
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Valerie Curren

That might be a fun topic (again) for one of your openers! Your money insights, like those in So Many Arenas, are priceless! 

Valerie Curren

When in an opener you usually provide pics, which are always a treat from my view in the cheap seats!

Valerie Curren

& if so rare “quite” valuable, presumably?

Valerie Curren

That’s Beautiful. Thanks. It would be Amazing to find such an old coin!!!

singingsoul1

Yes I guess I got the dollar bills confused 🙂

para59r

Not there. One of the first to speak out against Ukraine, rallies for J6 political detainees, solid on Trump, the Wall, the Vax, COVID, the Steal and so much more. If we want to fault her for McCarthy we’d have to do the same for Jordan and many others. I’m going to stick with the Fluff and Ruff thing until more evidence can sway me. She’s positioned herself to have his trust and I’d suspect it’s to take advantage of that trust, but she’s not endorsed or forgiven his wily ways, she’s simply bowing to a forgone conclusion that he will be speaker and to continue to fight it comes with peril.

Worth a look. . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marjorie_Taylor_Greene
Lots there for anyone to be easily dismissive of her.

also notes that McCarthy has also come to her aid before. Finds this small part slightly interesting.

Removal from House Committee assignments

As controversy grew about her previous comments, Greene removed her old social media posts[334] and spoke before the House Republican Conference on February 3, 2021, to state that her social media content did not reflect who she is, prompting a standing ovation.[335][336] In lieu of total removal from her assignments, McCarthy stated that he had suggested Greene be moved to the Small Business Committee.[27] That day, the Democratic-controlled House Rules Committee passed Wasserman Schultz’s motion to remove Greene from her committee assignments.[27] McCarthy indicated his conference would not act against Greene.[337][338] Pelosi chastised McCarthy for acquiescing to Greene, referring to him as “McCarthy (Q-CA)”, in reference to the QAnon conspiracy theory.[339][340] On February 4, the full House voted to remove Greene from her committee assignments.[27] The vote was 230 to 199, with 11 Republicans joining all Democrats.[341] After the vote, Greene described herself as “freed”, calling the committees part of “basically a tyrannically controlled government”.[342][343]

She’s taken many more slings and arrows for MAGA then even the above average Congress critters. Heck you could say her joining with Gaetz might even have damaged his initiative. Better she repair her image some with the vast amount of American’s before this fight starts again in earnest.

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singingsoul1

Thank you for your wisdom and insight concerning MTG. In time we find out but give her a second look. She just turned me off on Bannon the way she run her mouth on Gaets and other. She sounded all about Me

kalbokalbs

Some how I don’t think we know the full story on MTG supporting Kevin.

  • Coulda been at the behest of Trump. I, (we) don’t know.
  • Coulda been arranged as part of fluff and rough.
  • MTG handily won her seat, which bodes well for her reelection in 24. unless a GA Senate seat opens up.

I am convinced, MTG supporting Kevin, is NOT in MTG character, that I’ve witnessed the past couple years.

para59r

First bullet is most likely. Second bullet possible. I only developed it when I saw the MTG collage, because as you say, it’s not in her character.

Gingersmom2009

Lin Wood was right.

para59r

Maybe. Or optimistically we could be witnessing “Operation Fluff and Rough” , a covert action to mold McCarthy’s thinking?

para59r

So what’s operation Fluff and Rough Ruff you ask?

pssst.. no one asked.

In a secrete strategy session at Mar-A-Logo months before the election a small group of loyal Trump supporters from the House discussed what they would do when they won election.

During the session they figured the biggest obstacles for the House were the rules and realized they needed to change the rules, best done when the new House came to order. The other obstacle was Kevin McCarthy who could easily muck that up. So then they figured they needed to remove him. Since that was unlikely they figured they needed to control him. What better way to control McCarthy than build up his ego but make his precious ego subject to the carrot and stick. Thus the public twenty were formed to embarrass McCarthy publicly and shake his confidence in order to force change while the remainder of the team played on boosting his ego, but making it contingent on carrying out the rules change.

Gail Combs

I tried to search the term and found nothing but porn…

para59r

I only suspect, thus the term is made up.

TheseTruths

Excellent! (I would have asked what it meant, but you beat me to it. 😅)

Gingersmom2009

I don’t buy it after 6 years of “4-D chess”. Sorry. Most of the time it is what it is.

pgroup2

Does that mean MTG and Stefanik are fluffers?

  :wpds_shock: 

[I’ll stop here]

para59r

  :wpds_lol: My guess in some sort of sense, yes. Well at least MTG, hasn’t followed Stefanik close enough to venture a guess except to say she’s married and has child, so likely not or at least not as covert as I suspect with MTG.

We all know McCarthy bunks with Frank Luntz. Just roomies they say, but everyone suspects its more. We also know woman through the ages have wielded power over important men. McCarthy is still single and the only one suspected of wielding power over McCarthy is Luntz. Now MTG is single. What better way to find out what’s happening in the enemy camp while trying to influence the enemy camp at the same time than insert someone like MTG into the mix?

As far as conspiracies go, I’d say this is not too far fetched and is rather basic intrigue kinda of stuff.

I’d go further and suggest that McCarthy is likely aware, but he’ll want the cover she can bring as well and will use her as a something of a sounding board both to gather info on MAGA as well as figure out his limits to straying from the new rules. Meanwhile she’ll keep up the charm offensive in order to gather intel on him as well as attempt to influence his decisions.

She’s still one of the most conservative members of Congress, solidly for getting the J6 captives released and one of the few voices to be against Ukraine from the very beginning. Walking this out to the end of the tree limb where it will likely break it would not surprise me to learn she had her husband divorce her back in September and then planted the info so McCarthy could use it against her, which if I remember correctly he did.

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Deplorable Patriot

Kevin McCarthy is married to a woman and has two kids.

Robert Baker

Kevin McCarthy is married to a woman and has two kids.”

It strikes me as a bit sad that you had to say “to a woman”.

Deplorable Patriot

Yes.

para59r

Who aren’t in D.C. apparently or there’d be no Frank Lutz.
Besides nothing about Fluff and Ruff has to go so deep as real sex, just ego stroking.

scott467

“Kevin McCarthy is married to a woman…”

____________

Is her name Frank?

singingsoul1

About MTG? Yes he was

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holly08

🤣🤣🤣

Gingersmom2009

She makes me cringe.

TheseTruths

It’s ovbious that MTG and McCarthy seem close. That is no surprise since she wanted him for Speaker. Do we know all her reasons? Did things work out just as she wanted them to, as a positive for us, with McCarthy being under the spotlight, with firebrands like Jim Jordan able to effectively work in other roles, and with McCarthy being (IMO) directly accountable to Trump? Very possibly. Beyond that, I’m not going to read anything into photos. Anyone can hug and smile and be polite and even smooch in photos in public. Anyone can mug for a photo op, and that doesn’t just apply to these photos.

Is MTG working against the MAGA agenda? I highly doubt it, but as always, we will watch. But to go all Eeyore now is not something I endorse or accept. 😂

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

I’m sick of the Eeyoring too. It’s everywhere. People need to grow up. It’s not like the House was going to be able to do a whole heckuva lot anyway. Stopping the PERVOTUS agenda, preventing him from passing any more assinine Bills, was the Prize. Investigations will bring out truth, but we need a damn good R nominated Law and Order AG with balls to prosecute. Defunding the rogues, which got sabotaged by McTurtle, will take longer than we wanted. Impeachments, will be ceremonial, will go nowhere, just like Bills. The House better fight like hell on the debt ceiling and implementing a budget. Let Creepy keep screwing up the economy and eff’n over the people. That will be the motivator for people to vote for change. We need to have our messaging right. These 2 years are to get things in order for 47’s return. Clean up the voter rolls. Get involved locally. Primary RINOs. We need to constantly call and write all of our reps w/our feedback. The Dems are in a bad place electorally, set to lose many in the 24 Senate. If we have a trifecta in 25, we have a chance to get 47’s policies into law. Now that’s a goal to work towards!

Gail Combs

I am glad you see the strategy. We need more than a quick fix we need an INFORMED electorate and that is what all the ‘pain’ is about. Waking up the Sheeple before we end up with thousands of years of totalitarian world government and slavery.

GA/FL

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We did not need the dangerous deadly vaccines – nor Remdesivir – nor Paxlovid – nor masks – nor ventilators – nor big payments to hospitals – nor any of that crap.

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GA/FL

The Art of The Deal?

RAC

I still have that thought that PDJT didn’t endorse him as such, but set him up for what eventually happened.

Barb Meier

Article at Epoch Times lists a few things gained by the 20. “Such rules, if the package is passed, would include, among multiple provisions: raising the vote threshold required to approve increases in tax from a simple majority to a three-fifths majority, and imposing budget restraints. It would establish several panels to investigate various issues of concern and lower the requirements needed to call for a vote of no confidence in the speaker. It would also provide members with a 72-hour notice to read bills before they get to vote.”

My thought is that these items would be agreed to easily by honorable men. Why did they have to “fight” to get these items? A dearth of honorable men in that body.

Article by Mimi Nguyen Ly, link: https://www.theepochtimes.com/here-are-the-6-republicans-who-voted-present-in-the-final-vote-for-mccarthys-house-speakership_4968455.html

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RAC

“A dearth of honorable men in that body.”
That’s it.
Because of the most recent steal there were only 20 or so real MAGA.
Had PDJT endorsed one of them it would probably been a forlorn cause.
By endorsing McCarthy and using the few available troops he was able to maneuver a more favorable outcome.

Gail Combs

It is to SHOW CASE THE CORRUPTION.

The Uniparty knows they are now under the spotlight so are much more likely to pass these commonsense rules. If they do not The Freedom Caucus will raise a VERY PUBLIC FUSS.  😆 

Make your choice SUCKERS! You lose either way.

pgroup2

Except that the mere act of passing commonsense rules gives cover to the RINO thugs.

“See? We’re on the good team.”

Gail Combs

AND the Freedom Caucus WILL hold their feet to the fire.

Now it is up to US to start cleaning up our county voter rolls, try to kick out the voting machines AND WORK TO PRIMARY THE RINOs.

𝗪𝗘 𝗔𝗥𝗘 𝗧𝗛𝗘 𝗦𝗢𝗟𝗨𝗧𝗜𝗢𝗡! 𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝗖𝗼𝗻𝗴𝗿𝗲𝘀𝘀

TheseTruths

the mere act of passing commonsense rules gives cover to the RINO thugs

Not to me! I know exactly who fought for the reforms and who had to drag everyone else kicking and screaming into supporting them.

Brave and Free

Well only time will tell about that perdition.

Gail Combs

Burning Bright, Sean Morgan and Just Human discussed the possible overall strategy earlier. Do not forget that General Flynn has come out with a book The Citizen’s Guide to Fifth Generation Warfare
https://generalflynnstore.com/products/the-citizens-guide-to-fifth-generation-warfare-autographed-1st-edition-w-challenge-coin

Patrick Gunnels has read the first three chapters on Epic Threads Rumble:

Preface and Ch 1 of General Flynn’s Guide to 5GW – Come Check it Out!
https://rumble.com/v22sb0m-general-flynns-guide-to-5gw-come-check-it-out.html

General Flynn’s Citizen’s Guide to 5GW – Chapter 2
https://rumble.com/v22zhpe-general-flynns-citizens-guide-to-5gw.html

Burning Bright, Erik Carlson, and 5GW Chapter 3!
https://rumble.com/v23uimu-burning-bright-erik-carlson-and-5gw-chapter-3.html

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Jan 5 Game Theory Ep 3 — Burning Bright & Sean Morgan
https://rumble.com/v240yw2-game-theory-ep-3-1523.html

Jan 1 DEFECTED Ep 8 — Burning Bright & Just Human
https://rumble.com/v23g22u-defected-ep-8-sun-900-pm-et-.html

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

We are looking at STRATEGY.

The name of the game is to allow Americans to get a REAL HARD LOOK at what the Cabal actually has planned for them. AND allow the blame for the Border crisis, Drug crisis, Human trafficking crisis, Inflation Crisis, Vaccine/DEATH SHOT MANDATE splatter ALL OVER the DemonRats & RINOS Trump and the MAGA Freedom Caucus want to make very sure they are far away from that splatter. This theater separates the MAGA Freedom Caucus from the rest of the Republicans (RINOS) public’s mind.

Matt Gaetz & the Freedom Caucus fought a VERY PUBLIC and valiant fight against the CABAL PICK McCarthy, managing to wring some concessions.

Remember the HOUSE can ONLY STOP LEGISLATION, so why the fight?
#1 – to give the general public a lesson in civics
#2 – to showcase the UNIPARTY nature of the RINOS
#3 – to make sure MAGA Freedom Caucus members are in a position to run investigations AND McCarthy will ALLOW subpoenas unlike Paul Ryan.


Now that the House is under the spotlight called TWATTER, McCarthy and the RINOS will get called out every time they make a wrong move. This matters a heck of a lot more in the House than the Senate because it is ONLY 22 months until the NEXT ELECTION and even less to the PRIMARIES…  🤔  😋 

TheseTruths

Thanks for providing those chapter readings. I have wondered what the book was like, and that will give me a good idea.

Gail Combs

Yes, it is useful to have an idea of what you are ordering before placing the order. ($50 for autographed copy)

scott467

What were those tracts, and who published them (under a false name), during the War for Independence?

scott467

Scott, I think that was Thomas Paine, who published Common Sense and The American Crisis.

Robert Baker

OPINION: All we get from Trump now is propaganda. Propaganda is designed to keep an enemy from taking action. Guess who the enemy is? Hint: It is not the Democrats.

pgroup2

Well stated. Kudos.

Robert Baker

I find nothing to disagree with in your answer.

Gail Combs

So you want an open civil War?

And yes I am very serious. If Trump tried to get back in in 202o, ANTIFA and BLM were primed to burn US cities to the ground. With ‘Defund the Police’ county sheriffs might be forced to use local citizens AND the Canadian Military was ALREADY GIVEN PERMISSION TO STEP IN! (Bush era treaty)

Perhaps because I have been in this fight for a couple of decades, I can see the steps being taking.

Yeah, Trump is using ‘propaganda’ after all we ARE in a fifth Generation War and NARRATIVE is the battlefield. He has to swing the entire USA towards the right. The Cabal has had over a century with unlimited funds and a captive media. Trump has US… AND HE CAN NOT TELL US HIS BATTLE PLANS.

Robert Baker

No I am not advocating Civil War. However MAGA people need to take the blinders off and understand that just because Trump smiles at you it is not a proposal of marriage. He may have some plan to take back the government and he is not obliged to tell us but he also does not have to slap lipstick on a pig and tell us what a great day for America we witnessed last night. A victory for the Republicans who are only part-time allies in the best of times and sworn enemies a lot of the time. How many times have we gotten the same message? Are American citizens much better off than when we first went to war against the Deep State? That question calls for answers from every citizen based on their individual circumstances but overall my answer is that we may be retreating in orderly fashion but we are still retreating.

TheseTruths

does not have to slap lipstick on a pig and tell us what a great day for America we witnessed last night

Agree to disagree. I think we did witness a great day for America, and this is what I thought before Trump made a statement. It was my observation and opinion without influence from him.

I have never seen negotiations like that, for our side, in my lifetime. They were in the open where people could see exactly what has been covered up in the past, why we can’t seem to get things accomplished, and part of what it will take to get our voices heard again. The process was part of the victory.

We had members of the House refusing to budge until their concessions were met. It was amazing to watch. And I believe they will stand strong. I believe they are representing us and are our voices. I don’t think people are considering one alternative to what just happened: the same old vote going down without opposition, and McCarthy getting in without all the public reveals and concessions he had to make. This is HUGE, and I am encouraged and will take this as a win. For me, it does no good to count every single positive thing that happens as a negative.

Gail Combs

We take all the good days and there have actually been many. When you add them up they WILL bring the GREAT day we are all hoping for.

para59r

“…some way to torpedo and make it look like someone else’s fault”.

Possible. Correct me if I’m wrong, but they negotiated for three seats on the rules committee and only got one. So all of what they can make with that part is hanging by a thread.

Robert Baker

I have never seen negotiations like that, for our side, in my lifetime.”

Well since they started at 10pm on a Friday, you may have been one of the few who did.

para59r

Not sure if I’m talking the same thing, but Gaetz describes the negotiations as going back a few months.

TheseTruths

I’m referring to the entire process of electing a Speaker, which happened over the course of days. It was very eye-opening. “Day” in a more general sense, with the final vote being the culmination of an extraordinary process.

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Robert Baker

To be accurate the part of the process we saw was the votes on C-Span or elsewhere. The rest of the process consisted mostly of what you heard or read from third party accounts or videos. It is my understanding, from what I read, that many of the meetings took place behind closed doors which I assume were not open to reporters.

I am not trying to change your mind. It is not unusual for anyone, including me, to put lipstick on a pig because, at least in my case, I want to believe that I should be able to trust people, at least the ones on my “side”.

singingsoul1

“Well since they started at 10pm on a Friday, you may have been one of the few who did.”
————————————————————

Yes but the videos are permanent so is the Internet. No escaping it is for all to see.

kalbokalbs

Three or four days. ~15 votes. Talks before the first vote…

Never have I see R-Cons internally battle, beyond lip service.

We’ll see how it plays out.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

I agree.

Gail Combs

You explain it better than I.

We have a LONG BATTLE ahead. This WAS a win in the context of that long battle. It was not a complete defeat of the enemy, but it was a win for us not them.

singingsoul1

That McCarthy spelled out to the Country in his speech what he wants to change and where he stands I see as a win. He said it to the world and cannot backtrack then we all know. The hidden has been revealed and he has no place to hide.
We all will hold him accountable.

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kalbokalbs

Trump aside, R-Cons got major concessions, by twisting Kevin in the wind.

Next, those concessions need to be implemented. If the concessions are put in play, progress should be clear.

The 20 did well. Sure I wanted more. Kevin is on notice. We’ll see how it plays out.

Robert Baker

I have no criticism of the 20 who stood in the gap even knowing there was no cavalry coming. May their numbers increase.

kalbokalbs

Edited out…

True Leaders” are few and far between.

^^^ Congress PERFECT EXAMPLE.

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Linda Harrison

I watched this last night and had no problem with the 20. Where I would question what happened is Gaetz seemed to be threatened by McCarthy and someone else. All sat back down and the next round began. Gaetz and what was rest of the 20 all voted present. Almost as if they threw in the towel. My perspective. Thank you for commenting.

Gail Combs

It could also have been McCarthy in frustration saying OK you win you F…King Bastard.

Linda Harrison

That would give McCarthy the upper hand.

Gail Combs

No it would mean McCarthy agreed to terms AND would abide by them.

Linda Harrison

thank you.

Wyoming Kucklehead

I’m going to throw this out here. A comenter on Salty’s sight said he thought Trump endorsed McCarthy so that the Dems would not. I don’t know myself but it’s worth a thought. And in the first big debate our new Rep did not make me happy. Harriet I’m watching you. Pointing fingers at my eyes and back at her.

Robert Baker

An interesting theory but I don’t follow why that would be important. As far as I know McCarthy did not receive any Dem votes but I do not know that for a certainty. I thought the Dems ran their own candidate for Speaker. I knew there was speculation that McCarthy was courting a few Dem votes to put him over the top but as far as I know it came to nothing. Politics is a strange business conducted by ambitious people so I suppose anything is possible.

Wyoming Kucklehead

That’s for sure. I think his point was perhaps Trump knew there was going to be a fight and wanted to make sure the Dems didn’t jump ship. I thought is was interesting also. Well at least we sort of have him by the you know whats. I hope.

Gail Combs

I think you may be correct. A Trump endorsement would make him ‘Radioactive’ to the DemonRats.

Wyoming Kucklehead

Can you imagine if some of the Dems had voted for him then he would really be under there control. I shutter to think about it.

holly08

Could be. Democratic Rep. Katie Porter in the House Chamber. Check out the book title.

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Charlie

Stay Classy! Ugly mug says it all.

duchess01

BE MY VOICE

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BABY LIVES MATTER

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duchess01

PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD

Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow, that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ.

AMEN.

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duchess01

PLEASE PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

“Be ye strong therefore, and let not your hands be weak: for your work shall be rewarded.”

Amen!

RF121

So instead of complaining about those that folded of the 20, I have bigger issues with the 200 that voted with McCarhty. Had it been a secret vote it would have been a lot more. Cowards. Good thread from Larry about expectations.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. It should have been a lot more than 20.

Gail Combs

THE DONOR CLASS would not like it.

I will settle on some A LOT of those 100 being placed on the important committees.

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para59r

Is this another indicator that Operation Fluff and Rough could be real?

kalbokalbs

Operation Fluff and Rough?

Gail Combs

This is a very good thread. please click on the date to read all 11 comments.

phoenixrising
TradeBait2

It’s pretty clear what the next two years will be about. Defunding and defanging with the thin red line to protect from the snakes in the Senate, oval office (Soetoro) and alphabets.

If election stealing is not a top subject that is sincerely addressed, all of this is just polishing the turd. The alphabets are influencing through social media along with aiding and abetting. The social media piece serves the dual purpose to move the needle with the sheeple as well as a cover for the actual steals that they never investigate, charge and convict.

The political machines in numerous states are the ones participating in RICO that FIB and DODGE are not addressing. It’s still up to the local communities and states to clean it up. All we ask is for the GOP to hold the line on adequate voter ID and cut the funding.

kalbokalbs

Waiting to work on voter roll cleaning. They are supposed to reach out to me, having signed up.

Clean voter rolls AND working ballot collection / count is my focus.

Gail Combs

Great to hear!

Last I checked my state was not yet listed.

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michaelh

Who knew?

This is the scandal:

“To our knowledge, this study is the first well-powered, placebo-controlled clinical trial to report results of zinc for the treatment of patients with COVID-19.”

To summarize the background: We already knew zinc was useful against quite a few viruses and have known this since 1974. We also knew from another study that 6 out of 10 Covid patients were deficient in zinc, and those patients were more likely to die. Odds were that zinc would be useful, low cost and low risk, so… we waited two years and let a few million people die before someone, somewhere managed to do this obvious study with 400 patients.

Gail Combs

Aren’t you glad the Qtree did the digging a couple years ago?

TradeBait2

Yep, my first reaction with like, well, duh…

Gail Combs

Esp with Dr Zelanko screaming it at the top of his lungs from the get-go.

singingsoul1

Yes he was a real hero 

kalbokalbs

Dr Z and a doc from, IIRC Houston, that lost his father. May have been McCoullough.

AFLD and FLCCC were quick off the mark, calling out FauXi and his criminal gang.

Gail Combs

Maybe Dr Ryan Cole. There was also Dr Fleming and Dr Didier Raoult

kalbokalbs

Very thankful!

Your posts, several others and early on a MedCram.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

Very thankful, Praise God!!

RAC

My first thoughts also, without going back to check I reckon we had learned the first basic ideas about half way through 2020.

Aubergine

I thought we were earlier than that even, so I had to go check.

This is a comment in the Q Tree Corona Crisis thread from MARCH of 2020 (bolding is mine):

daughnworks247( daughnworks247)Offline

Cute Chipmunk

Reply to  MAGA Mom
March 31, 2020 19:49
#384269
Most of us have read about the advantages of Hydroxychloroquine, Chloroquine, + ZPack + Zinc supplement to treat the symptoms of Chinese Flu.
Although Chloroquine has been used for over 50 yrs with billions of prescriptions, the medical community, the Leftist MSM, and at times, the FDA have severely cautioned the public against widespread use.
Cuz we might die from the medicine, as opposed to dying from the virus?
Nonetheless, Dr Fauci calls for double blind clinical trials to “be sure” of the efficacy of the meds……. while at the same time, Dr. Fauci disregards/condemns/criticizes as “anecdotal” all studies done in other countries for a multitude of reasons.
Do you realize, in order to be in a double blind clinical trial, you may be in the half of the group who gets no meds, only a placebo.
Would you volunteer?
Or would you rather be assured of lifesaving meds in the midst of a global pandemic?
I’m not sure if we have time, during a war, for a traditional blue-ribbon study, as Dr Fauci desires, but we are doing it. 1100 people are part of the study in NY.
Meanwhile, the FDA reversed course and with an Emergency Order to allow the disbursement of Hydroxychloroquine and Chloroquine.”

WE were on this from the very beginning. I suspect I could find even earlier comments about zinc; this was literally the first search I did in the first thread I clicked on.

RAC

You introduced us to Nattokinase, and am pretty sure mentioned that article in Time Magazine and the connection to vaping.
I hope this still works…
https://europepmc.org/backend/ptpmcrender.fcgi?accid=PMC2135271&blobtype=pdf

Aubergine

I think the vaping info came from Gail.

RAC

Apologies to Gail then, my memory is somewhat threadbare.

Gail Combs

Never worry about that. It is the INFORMATION that is important.

Aubergine

Mine, too. I could be wrong, lol!

Aubergine

And I thought I would find something even earlier, and I did. From March 1-10 Corona thread:

“In summary:

What dosage?

Vitamin C fights all types of viruses. Although the dose should truly be high, even a low supplemental amount of vitamin C saves lives. This is very important for those with low incomes and few treatment options. For example, in one well-controlled, randomized study, just 200 mg/day vitamin C given to the elderly resulted in improvement in respiratory symptoms in the most severely ill, hospitalized patients. And there were 80% fewer deaths in the vitamin C group. [7]\

…The sicker a person was, the more ascorbic acid they would tolerate orally without it causing diarrhea. In a person with an otherwise normal GI tract when they were well, would tolerate 5 to 15 grams of ascorbic acid orally in divided doses without diarrhea…..

But to best build up our immune systems, we need to employ large, orthomolecular doses of several vital nutrients. The physicians on the Orthomolecular Medicine News Service review board specifically recommend at least 3,000 milligrams (or more) of vitamin C daily, in divided doses. Vitamin C empowers the immune system and can directly denature many viruses. It can be taken as ascorbic acid (which is sour like vinegar), either in capsules or as crystals dissolved in water or juice. It can also be taken as sodium ascorbate, which is non-acidic. To be most effective, it should be taken to bowel tolerance. This means taking high doses several (or many) times each day. See the references below for more information….

Magnesium: 400 mg daily (in citrate, malate, chelate, or chloride form)…..

Vitamin D3: 2,000 International Units daily. (Start with 5,000 IU/day for two weeks, then reduce to 2,000)…..

Zinc is a powerful antioxidant and is essential for many biochemical pathways. It has been shown to be effective in helping the body fight infections. [20,21] A recommended dose is 20-40 mg/day for adults….

Selenium:100 mcg (micrograms) daily…..

B-complex vitamins and vitamin A: A multivitamin tablet with each meal will supply these conveniently and economically…..

Nutritional supplements are not just a good idea. For fighting viruses, they are absolutely essential”

FROM THE BEGINNING. We knew.

Gail Combs

Actually it was before June of 2020 (April I think). I remember because I was waiting and waiting for the HCQ + Zinc trials to finish. Of course they KILLED the trials that were supposedly being run in New York State.

kalbokalbs

Early Spring, as I recollect.

TheseTruths

This place is amazing!

singingsoul1

Amen

TradeBait2

It truly is.

singingsoul1

No wonder I did well when having covid in 2019 my eye meds have lots of zinc in it.
Yes I do appreciate all the researchers here you are one of the earliest and others. Thank you 🙂

barkerjim

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michaelh

(In this tweet, I’m less interested in the tweet than I am in the fact the Twatter sent it to me in today’s highlight reel.)

Nor'easter

(NOTE: conservativebrief.com is allegedly paying “influencers” to post their click-bait)

michaelh

Hmm that’s interesting.

There’s another site called THEconservativebrief.com which is nothing BUT clickbait, and they keep dumping newsletters in my inbox.

Even fakers have their fakers!

Nor'easter

Interesting !

phoenixrising

pgroup2
Gail Combs

Ukraine Parliament Cheers Nazi Collaborator

Even neighboring Poland, a staunch ally of Kiev in the ongoing war with Russia, has criticized the Verkhovna Rada’s Jan. 1 celebration of the birthday of Stepan Bandera. 

By Peoples Dispatch [Can you say a Commie rag?]

Ukraine’s support for neo-Nazi groups and its attempts to officially recognize pro-Nazi legions and Nazi collaborators from World War II have been steadfastly criticized by communists and other anti-fascist groups in the region.

Kiev’s supporters in Europe and North America have, until now, maintained a complicit silence about these maneuvers. However, the latest gesture by the Ukrainian parliament — cheering on the birthday of the Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera — has drawn sharp criticism even from neighboring Poland, its staunch ally in the ongoing war with Russia. 

On Jan. 1, a post celebrating the 114th birthday of Stepan Bandera — notorious Ukrainian far-right leader and World War II Nazi collaborator….

“….far-right leader and World War II Nazi collaborator…”

I am getting really really sick of this…

Nazi” is short for Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, which translates to National SOCIALIST German WORKERS’ Party!!! A PARTY ACTIVE BEFORE HITLER.

WIKI:

Nazism (/ˈnɑːtsɪzəm, ˈnæt-/ NA(H)T-siz-əmGermanNazismus), the common name in English for National Socialism (GermanNationalsozialismusGerman: [natsi̯oˈnaːlzotsi̯a

ˌlɪsmʊs] (comment imagelisten)), is the far-right[1] totalitarian[2] political ideology and practices associated with Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party (NSDAP) in Nazi Germany. During Hitler’s rise to power in 1930s Europe, it was frequently referred to as Hitlerism (GermanHitlerfaschismus). The later related term “neo-Nazism” is applied to other far-right groups with similar ideas which formed after the Second World War...

And another interesting but WRONG take.
Were the Nazis Really Socialists? | by Martina Petkova | Medium

“Is it socialism?” The government angle

Here’s a simplistic but reliable way to figure out what system you’re dealing with: Ask “Who’s holding most of the wealth?”

If it’s a royal family, you’re dealing with a monarchy.

If it’s the government plus some select oligarchs, you’re dealing with either Fascism or Communism.

If it’s big privately-owned corporations, you’re dealing with Capitalism.

If it’s distributed across society by a central power, you’re most likely dealing with democratic socialism. 🙄 

The Nazi party falls fair and square into the “Fascism or Communism” category. Under Hitler’s rule, wealth belonged to the government, the military, and the “elite.”

What did he actually do?

He outlawed trade unions, declined the nationalization of property belonging to elites, and partnered up with nobility, businessmen, and industrialists who funded his rise to power and, later, his war efforts.

This wasn’t just about tactics. It was in resonance with his beliefs. He publicly made the statement in a debate with a socialist member of his party that “powerful businessmen were powerful because they were evolutionarily superior to their employees.”

In other words, his heart — and his political allegiance — were never with the “average people” but with the “elite.”

She really is brainwashed, simplistic and naive. However she does have Communism correct, she just refuses to see that ‘Socialism’ is RIGHT NEXT TO COMMUNISM and BOTH ARE PSYOPS by the Cabal.

Notice she doesn’t get Capitalism correct either.

singingsoul1

Sounds what the Biden regime want to do here? Hand all the wealth to the elites take property what they are doing in NYC with Trump and it will not stop there.

Gail Combs

“You will OWN NOTHING….”

pgroup2

… which means you will steal to get what you need/want.

RDS

Or drive oneself to outdo competitors to get even the basic necessities of life. Ask musicians and artists who were famous during the time of the Soviet Union. Extra food coupons, vouchers for housing, and so forth, were given to singers who did extremely well in competitions or were hired to perform in the premiere opera houses. Galina Vishnevskaya (prima donna assoluta of the Bolshoi Opera), Dmitri Shostakovich (composer / conductor) are examples. But, even then, if one didn’t toe the Party line all the time, one could run afoul of the Politburo and lose everything.

scott467

“You will OWN NOTHING….”

___________

Except me, because I have my own slogan now, to do battle with their slogan:

You will take nothing.” 😁

barkerjim

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bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

Yep, 47 is a Mastermind. He KNOWS McCarthy is SWAMP. How do you drain the Swamp? Start with the head Alligator. He played this perfectly, many just don’t see it yet. MTG, Gaetz, Boebert, others, they all had their parts to play. Net result, McCarthy was HISTORICALLY HUMILIATED on the World Stage. He was OWNED and CONTROLLED by MAGA Patriots for all the world to see for FOUR LONG DAYS. We got so many good changes. ONE PERSON can move to get rid of him if he steps one hair out of line. We now have TWENTY willing to fight for US! His leash is so tight, his balls are throbbing. Watch how Trump and the Freedom Caucus keep him in line. This is exactly the change we needed. Hold on to your hats folks (and NeverTrumpers), the next 2 years are gonna be a wild ride. Trump gravity in motion. 🤸‍♀️🤸‍♀️🤸‍♀️🤸‍♀️🤸‍♀️

Aubergine

I do so hope you are right.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

McCarthy Wins the 15-Round Bout, but Matt Gaetz Is the Real Winner – RedState

Usually when a writer writes, “it was like a 15-round fight,” they’re engaging in hyperbole—but as RedState’s Nick Arama reported, Friday night’s vote for Speaker of the House did indeed go 15 rounds before Kevin McCarthy finally won after facing a rebellion from 20 Republicans who initially refused to vote for him. It was the longest speaker battle since 1853.

California’s McCarthy finally won the speakership, but Florida congressman Matt Gaetz may have won the war. He was the leader of the pack of holdouts, along with Colorado’s Lauren Boebert and Arizona’s Andy Biggs, and for a brief moment in time, they held the future one of the three branches of government in their hands. All eyes looked to them as their yay or nay could change the course of the future.

In fact, the moment was so tense that a fight almost broke out when Mike Rogers of Alabama seemed to lose his cool, as Arama reported.

It was after the 14th vote that Gaetz apparently had a change of heart, approaching McCarthy and saying something which seemed to invigorate the candidate who immediately started animatedly advocating other members to vote “no” on adjourning for the night.

The subsequent vote nuked the motion to adjourn, and after 14 failures, McCarthy finally inched across the finish line with a vote of 216-212 (the 212 going to NY Democrat Hakeem Jeffries) with five voting present, including Boebert and Gaetz.

He is now the Speaker of the House.

However, his powers have been severely compromised, as he was forced to make concession after concession to get the votes of his peers. Who forced these concessions? Gaetz and the Freedom Caucus, which includes Andy Biggs, AZ, Dan Bishop, NC, Lauren Boebert, CO, Michael Cloud, TX, Andrew Clyde, GA, Matt Gaetz, FL, Bob Good, VA, Paul Gosar, AZ, Andy Harris, MD, Mary Miller, IL, Ralph Norman, SC, Scott Perry, PA, Matt Rosendale, MT, Chip Roy, TX, Byron Donalds, FL, Josh Brecheen, OK, Eli Crane, AZ, Andy Ogles, TN, Anna Paulina Luna, FL, and Keith Self, TX..

It was an action-packed night on C-SPAN, as Nick Arama reported, explaining how the vote to adjourn was pulled back from the brink:

Gaetz and McCarthy seem to have come to some sort of agreement. Gaetz, who had voted to adjourn, pulled that back and voted “no,” so they could continue the vote. It was a sign McCarthy didn’t need more time to whip votes.

So then, in the 15th vote, all of the six holdouts then voted “present,” lowering the count needed to win, securing the vote for McCarthy. Those six were Rep. Andy Biggs (R-AZ), Rep. Bob Good (R-VA), Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL), Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-CO), Rep. Eli Crane (R-AZ), and Rep. Matt Rosendale (R-MT)

You may or may not like Matt Gaetz, Lauren Boebert, and the Freedom Caucus, but one thing is for sure: they flexed their muscles this week, and they are going to be a force to be reckoned with.

Aubergine

I read this this morning, too. I hope it plays out as we want.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

McCarthy kissing the Ring. If you’re on TS you can watch video.

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Thank you Kevin. It was my great honor!

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pgroup2

“I made him an offer he could not refuse.”

singingsoul1

Master negotiator  😂 

RF121

Promises in D.C are worthless. I doubt they got much. Until we see action then we know for sure. What I do know is there are way more R’s against these 20 then are speaking up. They are just not going to sit back and let them get there way.

gil00

I just got an email from Socal Gas saying the average natural gas bill will be more than double this month.
No warning at all, just oh by the way we are charging X on your bill. No way to have planned for it either.

“There’s no easy way to put this: January bills are likely to be higher than usual. An unprecedented cold snap across the nation in part has caused natural gas market prices in the West to more than double between December and January – much higher than expected. As a result, SoCalGas residential customers can expect the typical January bill likely to be more than double the typical bill last January, assuming the same amount of natural gas is used.”

Senior Vice President and Chief Customer Officer, Gillian Wright”

Not sure how she expects a lot of people to pay when applying for assistance takes weeks to approve.

Minimum 128% increase.

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Gail Combs

This was ALL part of the plan by the way.

Shell Oil VP Ged Davis outlined in his B1 Scenario. The name of the game was to trash coal. which can be STOCK PILED and replace it with Nat’l Gas. This meant ANY hot or cold snaps would bring in BIG $$$ thanks to the  natural gas ‘scarcity’ thus driving  natural gas market prices through the roof.

Ged Davis who wrote the Sustainability Scenarios for the IPCC shows this in the “Sustainable Development (B1)” part of the February, 1998 Climategate e-mail which asks for comments on the attachment: “Draft Paper for the IPCC Special Report on Emissions Scenarios” by Ged Davis.

RF121

There is plenty. The gas is being shipped oversees where they get paid more for it.

Gail Combs

Of course but that is not what the Fake News is going to tell the Sheeple.

Heck I am sitting on a boatload if NC would allow drilling.

singingsoul1

My husband has a gas plan over 12 months works well for us. He pays $120 a moth and in June he normally gets a credit . Before we paid $300 plus depending on how cold it was. We find the plan very acceptable. We normally do not pay gas from June to October.

kalbokalbs

Not sure how she expects a lot of people to pay when applying for assistance takes weeks to approve.

^^^ SoCal gas does NOT care how you pay, so long as you pay. Or lose service.

Maybe Gavin will send natural gas cards, as I heard he sent gasoline cards out once or twice. $500 cards, IIRC. No idea if those gasoline cards were CA wide, or chosen few, Gavin was buying votes from.

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Yesterday, posted San Diego gas announced a doubling in gas price.

I expect gas price increases will spread to QTreeper’s in LA area, up to Santa Clara County, Nye County, NV and out my way.

My gas bill, two days ago, $242. Average January bill over previous six years, $152.

It’ll get worse. Much worse.

Gail Combs

We are normally up to somewhere north of $400 despite only heating or cooling 2 rooms. If our bill doubles we will be at $800 – $900 and I have zero idea how we can cut back anymore.

gil00

Live in a teepee and cook over a pot on open flame.

Gail Combs

I have the cast iron skillets and bought the dutch oven just in case. We certainly have plenty of wood.
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gil00

Lol. You have a lot of resources already. Good.

Gail Combs

Yes we do. If we can get gas and diesel to run our generators that is good too. Our well is over 300 ft deep but we can always hand dig a shallow well and the guy across the street has a well you can use a bucket on.

pgroup2
gil00

Gas cards were chosen few. Not us. I have the heater at 63. Kiddos breathing gets uncomfortable much lower than 60. At least the daytime weather doesn’t usually require heater on, ut we take a lot of showers and cook and do laundry.

RDS

One is on the “budget plan” for natural gas. Thermostat is at 66 (never lived with an indoor winter temp that low before). One bundles up inside the house. Space heaters are in use in the mostly-used rooms. Doors to unused / little used rooms are closed and the registers in those rooms are open only a little. The “winter coat” on my Yorkie is being allowed to grow out and there’s a “doggie coat” for him if necessary.

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RDS

It appears that in North Carolina, if one doesn’t live in or near the mountains, winter weather is considered to be a nuisance that needs to move on quickly. Houses built more than 30 years ago have only minimal insulation, etc. The place where one is at the moment had good insulation installed in the attic before she agreed to move in. Another issue appears to be crawl spaces — they can be traps for moisture, even if they’re professionally “encapsulated.” In addition to potential mold problems, they can be a problem in cold weather (especially in cold, damp weather.)

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scott467

If the house is cold, something that is really nice to help stay warm is to have warm feet.

Something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000079896

With an accessory to control temperature, like a dimmer switch for the heating pad: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000FPCEGI?psc=1

This one comes with a temperature control unit, is cheaper, and looks less industrial: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B08LVHYQWG/

I haven’t tried this one, but it looks like it would be good for under a desk if the desk has an open design: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B09CCF5QXC/?psc=1

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Edit: interesting… the Amazon links would not show up at first. I tried adding a character before the ‘http’ and that didn’t work either.

Then I eliminated the http://

The links then appeared, with the http:// included, even though the http:// is not actually there in my post.

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scott467

Unless your floor is cold, in which case your slippers just transmit the cold to your feet 😉

cthulhu

Not necessarily. Scott may have aluminum slippers.

scott467

He’s right, they’re aluminum.

cthulhu

I can actually sympathize. In my first year, my parents started out thinking I was an incredibly fussy baby….until someone tipped them off and they started keeping my feet warm.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

What Happened to Dan Crenshaw? What’s with his Bloody Hand in the House?… Is Someone Punching Walls? (thegatewaypundit.com)

singingsoul1

He seems to be a guy who has anger issues by his display the last couple of days towards the 6 🙂

singingsoul1

Good insights.

scott467

Pirate Clotshaw got a boo-boo.

phoenixrising

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/here-are-concessions-mccarthy-had-make-speakership

all this noise from uniparty about seniority … bahumbug … they should serve ONE term and go home …

phoenixrising

I’m too often unclear these days… should have said “ALL representatives” instead of pronoun “they” —

(prison terms for uniparty is good Steve! Throw in some hemp and you get A+  😀 

pgroup2

That would put the staffers in charge.

singingsoul1

Do not members have to pay to hold a chair?

Gail Combs

It is more the amount of donations they can bring in to the RNC.

singingsoul1

Al about the RNC .

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

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pgroup2

You’re so mean to po’ widdle Z-skee.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

Moi? It’s that stanking mean Catturd, owner of the Puppyturds! I’m just joyfully reposting his work! 😀🤸‍♀️🦋🤸‍♀️😍

RDS

Well, looks like “Tracksuit Thug” just issued his first veiled threat for more money.

RAC

Didn’t take him long, wonder if the unseemly speed is a measure of his anxiety.

Gail Combs

Quite possibly.
He is running out of people to toss at the Russians. Remember he is down to teenage boys who do not shave as Cannon Fodder.

Meanwhile people around the world are waking up. The way it goes is drip… drip… drip… FLOOD!

While many here are disappointed in the ‘Red Wave’ never materializing due to voter fraud, and the choosing of the Speaker of the House, I think the Cabal is getting increasingly nervous, or at least their puppets who are in the front lines are.

michaelh

Besides “NO” and “HELLLLL NO” you also offended us with your failure to dress properly. There aren’t enough “F”s in F off for you.

RF121

When they rub it right in your face.




mollypitcher5

FJB to hell

Gail Combs

The Cabal needs something to take the nasty taste of the last 4 day exercise in humiliation out of their collective mouths.

Consider it a GOOD Sign BTW.

scott467

That sure is one creepy look they’re giving each other.

RDS

https://mole.substack.com/p/vax_danger-2023-01-07-sat-killjab
Yours Truly: This is the “SuperSpreader” site. Scroll down the page to “The FDA Assigned Pfizer’s COVID Vaccine a License Number Months Prior to Actually Licensing it – ICAN – Informed Consent Action Network” hyperlink.
The FDA, on June 17, 2021, via an email from Christopher Joneckis, Associate Director for Review Management, to recipient “STN 125742, COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine”, that he “was authorizing release of the BLA license number for Pfizer/BioNTech Covid vaccine in advance of the typical notification in the approval letter.”
The FDA’s approval letter for this “vaccine”, called COMIRNATY, was issued on August 23, 2021. Both the email and the letter are hyperlinked in the article on the SuperSpreader page.
Some extra information from Yours Truly regarding this:
COMIRNATY is not available for use in the United States, even though the FDA “fully approved” it on August 23, 2021. The only Pfizer-BioNTech “vaccine” being used is the one called, “PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 VACCINE.” The FDA states that COMIRNATY and the Pfizer-BioNTech “vaccine” can “be used interchangeably” when prepared according to instructions. The Pfizer-BioNTech “vaccine” is also known as BNT162b2.
http://www.fda.gov/media/153715/download
The FDA’s license number for BNT162b2 / COMIRNATY, is “STN: BL 125742/0.” 125742 is the identifier number for the C4591001 clinical trial for this ‘vaccine” that has been discussed on this board, and the documents thereof can be found on both the ICAN website and the PHMPT website due to FOIA. These are the data that the FDA and Pfizer-BioNTech wanted to have sealed for 75 years, and lost that bid in court when sued under FOIA.
The FDA’ “approval” letter of August 23, 2021, details many clinical trials for BNT162b2 / COMIRNATY, that are ongoing. Therefore, the FDA issued “approval” for BNT162b2 / COMIRNATY before all clinical trials were finished and analyzed. At least some of these clinical trials is ongoing until 2025 and 2026. At least one “Final Report” of an ongoing clinical trial is due in 2027.
http://www.fda.gov/media/151710/download

TradeBait2

Update on our friend’s daughter that committed suicide earlier in the week.

Five people are now the recipients of organs that can extend their lives.

Extensive conversations with her mother have been held between friends. The school plans to have counselors available for kids and teachers on Monday – it was that big of shock to lose somebody to this tragedy that was so loved and respected. The special needs kids are really going to need prayer and special handling as they will not take this well. The church, our former church, will have counseling available for church members as the congregation is also reeling over this as she helped teach the youth.

Her husband is a disabled veteran on a pension. He took care of their young son while she taught during the days. The couple were very happy together. All who were at the son’s party at a local restaurant said everybody had a great time. They drove the short distance home and went inside. She left her husband and son, went to another area of the house and hung herself. He wondered why she had not come back to the room they were in, went to find her and saw her. He took her down and called 911 immediately and the paramedics got there quickly as their station is nearby, but it was too late.

Again, no note, no indication whatsoever something was wrong that anybody who knew her could detect. Happy, doing craft projects for her students, loving on her husband and son, working with the youth at church, talking and visiting with friends, etc. Everything to live for by all appearances.

Sadie pointed out the possibility of anti-depressants being an issue and I immediately thought jabs. I know she took the jabs, Sadie’s suggestion I am waiting until the right moment to ask. Combined they could have definitely been lethal.

Love on your loved ones, folks. You never know.

michaelh

Thanks for the update. Praying for the best outcome.

Aubergine

So sad, and so disturbing. I am very sorry for your and your community’s loss. Just such a shame.

TheseTruths

I have read that suicidal people often can think of no one but themselves and their situation. In this case, I am struck that she didn’t think of the effect on her students, and especially on her husband and son, whose birthday is forever marked by this tragic event. But none of the signs point to her having been depressed. It’s mysterious, and very sad.

Gail Combs

Yes it is. Something changed, antidepressants &/or Jabs seem possible because it was now and not during the lockdowns.

The other possibility is she found she had a bad disease but that does not jive with organ donation.

No matter what it is very very heat breaking especially for her son. 💔  😖 

pgroup2

She listened to a demon. Or a chorus of them.

cthulhu

I know that Joffen’s suicide at Ace’s hit me very hard. And it wasn’t “depression” as such — he could hear suicide calling him, even in times he was happy or content. He could be joking around or eating mint oreos, and you’d find out he had gone out and bought a rope.

It was a weird compulsion — like he’d been MKUltra’d….or, indeed, if he had demons whispering in his ear. And, then, he was dead.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

As far as MKU and demons, I go with “and logic”. I strongly suspect that human (or possibly any) brain architecture allows for ghosts in the machine and thence in the network, thus usable by MKU. It is likely Turing-stuff – a built-in, in the nature of intelligence, in this universe, and with this mathematics.

In the same way that I believe OCD and the underlying mechanism is leveraged in MKU, I believe that demons, or at least spirits, as such, are also part of the MKU process.

Indeed, one can look at the satanic abuse of infants to create dissociated personalities as part of the self-perpetuation of the demonic intelligence. Same with grooming, in all its manifestations.

Turing’s suicide can be seen in this context. He was a great danger to them, IMO. I also believe they have worked hard to recharacterize his life, his work, and his importance in a way that supports THEM and not God and “our side”. They made Turing all about his gayness, and not about the profound aspects of intelligence, which IMO approach God, that he was unlocking.

cthulhu

I went through a bit of the Kubler-Ross DANDA thing….I talked to the police and medical examiner. Then, another of his online friends and I tracked the movement of his remains — they just sat for a time, and I was worried that he might be forgotten. Once they started moving, they headed to Canada to rejoin his IRL family.

They had an online memorial and I signed the guest book, which got me interrogated by his sister, but ultimately resulted in some sense of closure.

pgroup2

Fortunately, the company could afford it.

scott467

“Indeed that week was spent by many making a scrapbook of him.”

_______________

At work? During business hours?

How is that even possible?

I’ve never even heard of a boss who would tolerate something like that.

RDS

TradeBait2
Thank you for the update. Such a terrible tragedy for her husband, her son, the rest of the combined families.
If the deceased was vaxxed and also was on an anti-depressant, there could be connection between the two.
“You never know” is the truth.

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TradeBait2

I’m going to stay with this one to try to learn more. I have been around suicide with divorce and grief counseling. There have always been signs or difficult situations. This one has me flustered. Nobody knew or observed anything.

Gail Combs

Please keep us updated.
Understanding what happen will help with closure for her family and friends. So I hope you are successful.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This really bothers me. Something about it is just so wrong.

Wyoming Kucklehead

I’m so sorry. I hate to say this but I know far to many people who have committed suicide.

Valerie Curren

As a member of a transplant family I can truthfully say that the gift of life is a deeply precious thing—life from lifelessness! This demonstrates in the natural world an eternal truth, “what Satan meant for evil God works for good” for those who love Him!

scott467

Unless the donated organ, chock full of vaxx and boosters, continues to create spike proteins in a recipient who otherwise managed to avoid being vaxxed.

Valerie Curren

…yes there is THAT! 🙁

RAC
para59r

Actually very good. But you need time to watch it. It starts about one third the way through but that’s okay. Even if you think you know it all, she’s got more to show you.

cthulhu

Heh….separated at birth?

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

Gail Combs

Reading from General Flynn’s 5GW Chapter 3! by Patrick Gunnels.
Everyone should listen to the section:
𝟯.𝟯 𝗛𝗢𝗪 𝗧𝗢 𝗠𝗔𝗞𝗘 𝗣𝗘𝗢𝗣𝗟𝗘 𝗞𝗜𝗟𝗟 𝗣𝗘𝗢𝗣𝗟𝗘

I THINK YOU WILL RECOGNIZE IT.
Starts at 51:45

https://rumble.com/v23uimu-burning-bright-erik-carlson-and-5gw-chapter-3.html

It is worth your time to listen to this to understand AND DEFEND YOURSELF from this.

Gail Combs

This is NOT from Q but from another Anon:

Anonymous 01/05/23

Lb Lb Lb [Last bread]

anons were chosen for a very specific reason, they were to bear the burden of awakening before the rest of the world. Anons would see the truth before the rest and feel the pain of knowledge every step of the way while the rest of the world was a sleep. Anons are selfless in their dedication to find truth no matter how painful it was, no matter how many friends were lost on the way. To be awake is to know the darkeness and not just the light, anons were chosen by GOD to help sheperd the normies to salvation. Anons fight battles most aren’t even aware of . Anons were chosen for a very specific reason. Bear the cross of truth, no matter how much they are persecuted.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I tend to agree. To make sure that we do this task justice, we must constantly renew our strength in the Lord first and foremost. Only through the power of God are we not deceived.

Tonawanda

1. Doctors no longer care about patients. They are motivated by something different.

2.  There will be no cover bands for the music of the last 20 years.

3.  The UFO/alien narrative may be true, but it also may be another hoax, aimed at the destruction of Christianity.

4.  An analogy to Aubergine’s deep and certainly true insight, although not as sharp. Yes, the older generation will necessarily but often mistakenly call into question the younger generations. But the younger generations — now — have no idea the peril they face.  They prove their shallowness every day.

5.   The concept of hallowing your elders is completely dead. See # 4.

6.   The sinfulness of men is a mystery. The sinfulness is true. The context is not knowable.

7.  In several recent centuries, men discussed every important thing. Of those things, discussion is no longer allowed by those with controlling influence on Earth.

RDS

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/new-evidence-based-doctor-registry

Yours Truly: Steve Kirsch has a (growing) list of doctors who will treat patients based on evidence of what works, rather than on what “establishment medicine” dictates. Several of the doctors listed are licensed to practice medicine in more than one state. The list includes chiropractors. Caveat: California law requires medical professionals to treat COVID-19 using only “establishment medicine” and state dictates; other conditions will be treated using evidence-based techniques.

Gail Combs

“…The list includes chiropractors…..”
Oh thank you. I would like one to take a look at Hubby to see if he can help his balance problem.

TradeBait2

As you know, I highly recommend those that use modern techniques.

Gail Combs

TradeBait, I just checked and no chiropractors. Could you ask yours if they know of a decent one in the Pittsboro NC, Cary NC, Chapel Hill area?

Often they know people out of state.

RDS

One hopes that more chiros will get on the Kirsch list. I believe that there’s one in Wyoming and one in California on the list at the moment (in the General Public hyperlink,)

TradeBait2

Will do. We have appointments on Tuesday morning.

Gail Combs

THANK YOU! 😍 

Charlie

The Elite HATE 45, the same ELITE that donate to politicians and own BIG properties.
Elites will do all that they can to obstruct 45.
Signed April 2019
NEW FINANCIAL PENALTIES ON AMERICAN HOMEOWNERS
Limited the Home Equity Interest Deduction 
Limited the Property Tax Deduction 
Capped the Size of Mortgages with Interest Deductions 

https://porter.house.gov/uploadedfiles/april_2019_report_on_tax_bill_and_homeowners_ca-45.pdf

kalbokalbs

Nothing To See Here… Move Along, Please

GWP

Breaking News Editor For LA Times Dies Unexpectedly at 33

16-Year-Old Sophomore Student ‘Collapses and Dies Suddenly’ While Playing Flag Football

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/01/breaking-news-editor-la-times-dies-unexpectedly-33/

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/01/16-year-old-las-vegas-teen-flag-football-player-collapses-dies-suddenly/

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RDS

J_A_B
J_A_B
J_A_B
May the deceased rest in eternal Peace.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

People who’ve had the jab need to get right with God quicker.

cthulhu

I’m not sure the flag football girl was necessarily a jab — she was under medical care for a preexisting heart condition, this was supposed to be her last game, and she had a doctor’s appointment for Friday. That’s not exactly “out of the blue with no prior signs”, like a jab death would be.

kalbokalbs

I’m not sure either.

But if she was JABBED, JAB is in the mix.

FWIW, not much of anything. Clark County (Vegas), reportedly 66% jabbed.

RF121

I think come summer, as these continue, they will no longer be able to shove them under the rug. Pretty rough for the kids with this one.

gil00

Thats scary but maybe the kids know firsthand now…dont take the shot.

RF121

I was reading booster uptake is way down. Problem is, damage is probably done.

gil00

Likely. We dont know what genetic anomalies will happen either as they become adults, or as adults have children, if they can, and all the issues speculated upon. Im still seeing ads for the shot and 😷. Those in masks do vary.

kalbokalbs

Ad for the Boosters are becoming constant in stores with Jab capability.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This is a GREAT point.

Stop asking if they got the jab or not.

Ask HOW MANY JABS?

I’m figuring that this will give us some answers we need, AND will push the point home.

para59r

One more besides this one and the ones Kalbokalbs posted.

Full story here. Victoria Lee was 18yrs old.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/01/mma-rising-star-victoria-lee-dead-18/

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kalbokalbs

MMA team she was with required JABS.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OMG – I’ll bet that her biochemistry was more like a young male, with lots of activity, and that myocarditis is either more common or more significant in that subset.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This was in the replies…..

Canadian Guest
RF121

Robert Baker

I agree wholeheartedly but I think I am showing my age and my personal predilections.

pgroup2

Which is far superior than showing one’s stupidity.

Speaking of stupidity, it’s supposed to be painful.

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gil00

Ive seen a lot of guys with slave rings too. Its a nasty trendy thing.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Wheat-chaff self-sorter of the most excellent kind.

Gail Combs

If they can just print money out of thin air and send it anywhere they want, why are we paying taxes again? – The Hodge Twins

pgroup2

So tell me why there are counterfeiting laws.

cthulhu

The government hates competition.

RF121

Don’t see how this gets fixed.

para59r

Greg Price continued.. “You can thank the ongoing lawsuits from the Missouri and Louisiana Attorney General’s offices for revealing this information.

Here is a whole thread of how the Biden administration colluded with Big Tech to censor their critics, including RFK Jr.”

RF121

Been going on for years. Gubmint agencies are corrupt to the core. Run by leftists, hire leftists after their college indoctrination.

Aubergine

The hits just keep on coming, don’t they. Good grief. We might as well be living in North Korea.

barkerjim

The food is better here, so far!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LMAO. Loved that you had to add “so far”, because BUGS surely seem to be on the proposed menu.

TradeBait2

Got a BIMD for a release tonight. All of of them from this point on will be 10 minute reads or less.

cthulhu

Something revised your estimate of the blog’s attention span?

Oh, look — squirrel!!!

TheseTruths

Rep. Paul Gosar: ‘The Effort to Attempt a Coup Between Traitor General Mark Milley and Pelosi Will be Exposed’
https://nationalfile.com/gosar-the-effort-to-attempt-a-coup-between-traitor-general-mark-milley-and-pelosi-will-be-exposed/

General Mark Milley once “warned” the Chinese Communist Party that he would not follow orders from then-outgoing President Trump in late 2020.

Bob Woodward’s book Peril revealed that General Milley held a secret Pentagon meeting behind President Trump’s back where he instructed his staff to ignore orders given by the President a few days after January 6. The purpose of the meeting was centered on Milley’s belief that President Trump would order the use of nuclear weapons towards the end of his term.

CNN reported that Milley “called a secret meeting in his Pentagon office on January 8 to review the process for military action, including launching nuclear weapons. […] Milley instructed them not to take orders from anyone unless he was involved.”

“You never know what a president’s trigger point is,” Milley reportedly told his staff. “No matter what you are told, you do the procedure. You do the process. And I’m part of that procedure,” Milley said. “Got it?” His senior staff replied, “Yes, sir.”

The book also reveals that Miley had secretly coordinated with a top Communist Chinese general in the days following January 6 behind President Trump’s back. “General Li, I want to assure you that the American government is stable,” Milley said, according to a transcript, “and everything is going to be okay.”

Gosar, Bishop and a number of additional House Republicans have called for Milley to be investigated and eventually arrested over his actions. “If this report is true, Gen. Milley didn’t act heroically as his leftist media allies are pretending, he sold America out & should be court-martialed,” Bishop wrote in a tweet shortly after the revelation. [Defense Secretary] Austin needs to get to the bottom of it. America deserves better than a rogue General who colludes with an adversary”…

Milley should be in prison.

Linda

He’s not just treasonous. He’s a total moron if he really thought POTUS would use nuclear weapons for ANY reason.

kalbokalbs

Doubtful, Milley believed Trump would use nukes.

It’s all a BS narrative useful for the likes of Milley, Piglosi…hussein.

Robert Baker

Milley really should thank the fates that he was an American and not a Ruskie or Chinese. In either alternate instance he would have already shaken off this mortal coil.

cthulhu

…..or had it shaken off of him.

Robert Baker

More likely I would agree.

RF121

Catturd makes the big screen tonight.

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pgroup2

Sure looks like a catturd hat to me.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LMAO!!! A pink Catturd hat!!!