2023·03·18 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

McCarthy 2.0 seems a vast improvement over Speaker Dungsmear. So here’s the question. Was he once a conservative with a little fire in the belly that got captured by the system and now is finding it again? Or is this all completely under duress?

For the moment, it doesn’t matter which one. But some day it will matter, and we will have our answer

Giving Our “Love” To the RINOs and the Dipshits Going After O’Keefe

And OBTW you dipshits may have won the battle of O’Keefe…but he’s making sure you find that what you are holding is worthless bearded dragon poop. I hope you enjoy the fruits of conquest.

RINOs an Endangered Species?
If Only!

According to Wikipoo, et. al., the Northern White Rhinoceros (Ceratotherium simum cottoni) is a critically endangered species. Apparently two females live on a wildlife preserve in Sudan, and no males are known to be alive. So basically, this species is dead as soon as the females die of old age. Presently they are watched over by armed guards 24/7.

Biologists have been trying to cross them with the other subspecies, Southern White Rhinoceroses (Rhinoceri?) without success; and some genetic analyses suggest that perhaps they aren’t two subspecies at all, but two distinct species, which would make the whole project a lot more difficult.

I should hope if the American RINO (Parasitus rectum pseudoconservativum) is ever this endangered, there will be heroic efforts not to save the species, but rather to push the remainder off a cliff. Onto punji sticks. With feces smeared on them. Failing that a good bath in red fuming nitric acid will do.

But I’m not done ranting about RINOs.

The RINOs (if they are capable of any introspection whatsoever) probably wonder why they constantly have to deal with “populist” eruptions like the Trump-led MAGA movement. That would be because the so-called populists stand for absolutely nothing except for going along to get along. That allows the Left to drive the culture and politics.

Given the results of our most recent elections, the Left will now push harder, and the RINOs will now turn even squishier than they were before.

I well remember 1989-1990 in my state when the RINO establishment started preaching the message that a conservative simply couldn’t win in Colorado. Never mind the fact that Reagan had won the state TWICE (in 1984 bringing in a veto-proof state house and senate with him) and GHWB had won after (falsely!) assuring everyone that a vote for him was a vote for Reagan’s third term.

This is how the RINOs function. They push, push, push the line that only a “moderate” can get elected. Stomp them when they pull that shit. Tell everyone in ear shot that that’s exactly what the Left wants you to think, and oh-by-the-way-Mister-RINO if you’re in this party selling the same message as the Left…well, whythefuckexactly are you in this party, you lying piece of rancid weasel shit?

In Defense of Ranked Choice Voting

One of the biggest obstacles to direly-needed change is RINOs, and one of the weapons in their arsenal is the “Wasted Vote” argument.

Periodically a third party has arisen, trying to hold RINOs to account by putting pressure on them from outside of the party, since doing so from the inside has historically done very little good. But, even if you find a third party candidate who perfectly reflects your views, you’re likely to vote for the RINO anyway. Why? Because if you don’t, the Democrat might win, and that would be even worse. So if you vote for that third party (that few will vote for), you’re throwing your vote away and increasing the likelihood of the Democrat winning. (It’s half as much a gain for the Democrat, as actually voting for the Democrat would be. Not as much, but half as much. Because although you denied the R your vote, you did not flip your vote to the Democrat.)

The Republican Party Establishment knows you don’t love them. But they know you hate the Democrats worse, and they use that to continue to herd you into supporting them. With gritted teeth you cast your vote, but your vote counts the same whether you cast it enthusiastically. And the other alternative, pissing on the voting apparatus to express your actual feelings, is probably a felony.

But what if you could vote for that third party without increasing the chances of the Dem walking away with the prize?

This is what ranked choice voting, or instant runoff voting, can do provided it is properly implemented. (And this includes the votes, and only genuine votes, being counted honestly, of course. However, I’m going to compare it to what we have today, and pretend that is honestly done too. RCV can’t work if it’s not honestly administered, just like our current system isn’t working because it isn’t honestly administered.)

The idea behind RCV is to vote by expressing your order of preference. You could vote for the Patriot Party, then for the RINO Party as your second choice (and ignore the Democrat, the Green, the Overt Socialist Schmuckmonkey Party, etc).

What does this do? It nullifies the wasted vote argument. Your vote will be counted for the Patriot party, first, then instead of it being “wasted” when the Patriot Party loses, it ends up going to the RINO. Actually, it’s just barely possible that the Patriot Party would actually beat the RINO, if people weren’t all individually afraid to vote for it.

It’s just like the famous “Prisoner’s Dilemma” where your fear of other peoples’ actions prevents you from doing the optimal thing–and vice-versa. As long as Job Lowe is afraid to vote Patriot because he’s afraid you’ll vote RINO, you’ll have to vote RINO because you fear that Job Lowe will, because he fears you will.

So on the whole I like RCV. It gives you a no-risk way to vote against the RINO scum, and in favor of someone who deserves your vote.

The problem is, as done here in the US, it comes packaged with a “jungle primary.” A bunch of candidates get to put their name out there, and the top four (or so) candidates get onto the “main” ballot. This gives party establishments their way around the threat of a good third party bumping them off. Because they know that few people bother with primaries, and third parties don’t have the resources to run in a primary…so they throw two or three establishment hacks into the primary and they will probably beat the third party. The result is the RINOs end up with two of the four slots in the general election, and the Dems get the other two. Now there’s suddenly no third party candidate on the ballot at all.

If we were to combine RCV with the present system where each party could nominate exactly one candidate to appear on the November ballot, or at the very least, ensure minor parties could get onto the ballot with at least one candidate regardless of the primary, we would be getting somewhere, but the establishment is smarter than we like to give them credit for. They will support the jungle primary + RCV “solution” rather than the more appropriate one-candidate-per-party + RCV solution.

It’s not RCV that is the problem, it’s the primary structure grafted onto it.

Justice

It says “Justice” on the picture.

And I’m sure someone will post the standard joke about what the fish thinks about the situation.

But what is it?

Here’s a take, from a different context: It’s about how you do justice, not the justice that must be done to our massively corrupt government and media. You must properly identify the nature of a person, before you can do him justice.

Ayn Rand, On Justice (speaking through her character John Galt, in Atlas Shrugged):

Justice is the recognition of the fact that you cannot fake the character of men as you cannot fake the character of nature, that you must judge all men as conscientiously as you judge inanimate objects, with the same respect for truth, with the same incorruptible vision, by as pure and as rational a process of identification—that every man must be judged for what he is and treated accordingly, that just as you do not pay a higher price for a rusty chunk of scrap than for a piece of shining metal, so you do not value a rotter above a hero—that your moral appraisal is the coin paying men for their virtues or vices, and this payment demands of you as scrupulous an honor as you bring to financial transactions—that to withhold your contempt from men’s vices is an act of moral counterfeiting, and to withhold your admiration from their virtues is an act of moral embezzlement—that to place any other concern higher than justice is to devaluate your moral currency and defraud the good in favor of the evil, since only the good can lose by a default of justice and only the evil can profit—and that the bottom of the pit at the end of that road, the act of moral bankruptcy, is to punish men for their virtues and reward them for their vices, that that is the collapse to full depravity, the Black Mass of the worship of death, the dedication of your consciousness to the destruction of existence.

Ayn Rand identified seven virtues, chief among them rationality. The other six, including justice, she considered subsidiary because they are essentially different aspects and applications of rationality.

—Ayn Rand Lexicon (aynrandlexicon.com)

Justice Must Be Done.

Trump, it is supposed, had some documents.

Biden and company stole the country.

I’m sure enough of this that I put my money where my mouth is.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system. (This doesn’t necessarily include deposing Joe and Hoe and putting Trump where he belongs, but it would certainly be a lot easier to fix our broken electoral system with the right people in charge.)

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is pointless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud in the system is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

This will necessarily be piecemeal, state by state, which is why I am encouraged by those states working to change their laws to alleviate the fraud both via computer and via bogus voters. If enough states do that we might end up with a working majority in Congress and that would be something Trump never really had.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

Spot Prices

Last week:

Gold $1,868.90
Silver $20.63
Platinum $971.00
Palladium $1,468.00
Rhodium $10,100.00

This week, 3 PM MT on Friday, markets closed for the weekend

Gold $1,990.30
Silver $22.70
Platinum $985.00
Palladium $1,495.00
Rhodium $10,000.00

Gold has resumed its climb. Almost seventy bucks on Friday alone. Silver up almost a dollar today, too. There’s no obvious specific headline for this…I think it’s just people worried about what comes next. Palladium isn’t moving much…and that’s one whose primary value is industrial; it’s not a “safe haven” nor especially traditional (It was only discovered in 1802, about the same time as rhodium in 1804).

Obligatory PSAs and Reminders

China is Lower than Whale Shit

To conclude: My standard Public Service Announcement. We don’t want to forget this!!!

Remember Hong Kong!!!

https://youtube.com/watch?v=L3tnH4FGbd0

中国是个混蛋 !!!
Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!!
China is asshoe !!!

China is in the White House

Since Wednesday, January 20 at Noon EST, the bought-and-paid for Joseph Biden has been in the White House. It’s as good as having China in the Oval Office.

Joe Biden is Asshoe

China is in the White House, because Joe Biden is in the White House, and Joe Biden is identically equal to China. China is Asshoe. Therefore, Joe Biden is Asshoe.

But of course the much more important thing to realize:

Joe Biden Didn’t Win

乔*拜登没赢 !!!
Qiáo Bài dēng méi yíng !!!
Joe Biden didn’t win !!!

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TheseTruths

No problemo. Glad all is well.

Barb Meier

No worries, thanks for the post Steve!!! I was having trouble sleeping thinking about how a nation gets justice when the federal system is broken. What will we do if our federal system collapses, as it might? Rely on our state governments until the federal system can be cleaned up from the corruptocrats?

Barb Meier

If the state governments are corrupt, then rely on the counties?

TheseTruths

County sheriffs?

cthulhu

When things get really bad, it will be up to you and your neighbors.

Doesn’t it seem like a good time to make up a batch of homebaked cookies?

TheseTruths

Cookies? I was thinking more along the lines of ammo and bartering materials. 🤔

piper567

wisdom.

cthulhu

Everything has to start somewhere. Assessing whether your neighbors are worth cultivating is a start.

Barb Meier

What if, instead of having Oscar awards for entertainers, there were similar awards for law enforcement people who do the right thing? We could have parades and one of those star walks. They could be given those $10,000 ‘goodie’ bags with kevlar and night vision goggles instead of pamper-me-silly stuff for those who help lie to us.

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Barb Meier
TheseTruths

Cookies as a tool…this could work…😄

kalbokalbs

^^^ Redundant, MeThinks.

Ammo, Stack It High And Deep.

cthulhu

With who? Bake a plate of cookies and go over and talk…..you can share ammo later where you find you share values.

kalbokalbs

^^^ Tweaked. Different region.

Bring beer, wearing a Trump hat.

Shared values, will be apparent, instantly..

Aubergine

In my neighborhood, we know who’s on team “us” by who is flying the American flag. And there are a LOT of flags.

kalbokalbs

Yup. American flag, Trump flag, Gadsden flag, Fuck Biden flag…

Neighbor flying the latter, gave me one. 🙂

Guy with a Trump yard sign, lined out Pence.

singingsoul1

🙂

Barb Meier

I trust my county sheriff and the one in the county just over the mountain to do the right thing for our citizens and within the limits of the law. If we hounded the leftists as they have hounded us, every red state’s investigation bureau would know when they sneeze. No jaywalk would go unnoticed (or uncorrected).

Nor'easter

(NOTE: “SHERRIFFS” are ALSO “ELECTED” !)

Valerie Curren

That would shake things up in a Good Way!!!

Valerie Curren

Living in Michigan under Witchmer & in Wayne County, the most corrupt county within which is the city of Detroit, I won’t be holding my breath here 🙁

singingsoul1

I think my son lives in that county . Is about 50-75 miles from Detroit ?

Valerie Curren

Wayne county includes the city of Detroit & some surrounding communities to the West & South but I don’t think that far out from Detroit though.

List of Towns and Cities in Wayne County, Michigan, United States with Maps and Steets Views
Allen Park
Belleville
Canton
Dearborn
Dearborn Heights
Detroit
Ecorse
Flat Rock
Garden City
Grosse Ile
Grosse Pointe
Hamtramck
Harper Woods
Highland Park
Inkster
Lincoln Park
Livonia
Melvindale
New Boston
Northville
Plymouth
Redford
River Rouge
Riverview
Rockwood
Romulus
Southgate
Taylor
Trenton
Wayne
Westland
Wyandotte

https://geographic.org/streetview/usa/mi/wayne/index.html

singingsoul1

Do not remember. Claimant or something like that

Valerie Curren

hmm doesn’t ring a bell for me 🙂

singingsoul1

I was only one time in Ann Arbor Michigan that was about years ago when the kids still lived in an apartment they moved.

Valerie Curren

I’ve been to Ann Arbor A Lot since 1996, but mostly to go to the U of M hospital complex mostly for my son Josiah…It’s a pretty college town but very lefty, unfortunately.

pgroup2

You will be notified of the date and time for your punishment.

Do not try to leave the country.

  :wpds_lol: 

Valerie Curren

Glad things are KO for you!

cthulhu

Justice delayed is justice denied!!!

–little fish

Valerie Curren

hope things work out OK for you in all this…Thanks for putting up a daily to give the gang a place to hang out. Blessings!

cthulhu

Firefox updates have been ugly of late. It would probably look better in the morning.

singingsoul1

Mine updated was told this morning. I never know when they do it except the announcement in the morning.

cthulhu

Well, perhaps it’s because I typically have four open windows and 1000+ open tabs. Every time Firefox does an update lately (by itself, not through apt), it (a) finds tabs I recently closed, (b) loses tabs I recently opened, and (c) loses all the search info for each tab and puts me somewhere random.

TheseTruths

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GA/FL

Where’s DeSantass?

Dora

I was looking for him too.

TheseTruths

Well, those are all Dems/leftists except for Bolton. Maybe Garrison doesn’t want to place DeS in that extreme of a group.

TheseTruths

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TheseTruths

Quite a few of those faces are unfamiliar to me and I don’t know their names.

scott467

The one who appears to be crying again is Adam Kinzinger.

cthulhu

Catturd already told you the most important thing to know — they are all serial lying traitors that belong in prison.

kalbokalbs

To your credit. Bastards were not worth paying attention to.

Brave and Free

And the ones not on that committee, crying Chuck, Piglosie the list goes on……

Barb Meier

Top to bottom, left to right: Elaine Luria, Jaime Raskin, Stephanie Murphy, Pete Aguilar, Adam Schiff, Zoe Lofgren, Liz Cheney, Bennie Thompson, Adam Kinzinger

TheseTruths

Thanks! We should probably at least be able to recognize those names.

TradeBait2

Sort of disagree with the “prison” thingy. They are wasting air, water, food, etc. Hand them off to their Creator.

Treason is treason. This is not sedition IMO. The penalty for treason is death per the law.

Treason is defined in the US constitution as “levying war” against the United States, or “adhering” to the enemies of the United States and “giving them aid and comfort”.

I contend that is exactly what the above referenced co-conspirators did using the Capital Police, FIB, DODGE and other similar corrupted agencies against law abiding citizens of our country. They staged and incited a riot using their operatives.

This was a premeditated and executed act that the parties all participated in. They are all working in collusion, taking money, circumventing existing laws, and doing business with stated enemies of America. We are fighting a proxy war against one in Ukraine, who is in a contracted national defense agreement with the Chi-coms. If you are fighting a war against one, you are stating the other is also an enemy since they are in a national defense pact. Iran has publicly stated they are our enemy as are many others. As for Russia and the proxy war, the elected officials and POTUS confirm they are enemies with every dollar and weaponry they send to be used against the Russians. A fight we had no justification for involvement since they are not NATO members. A fight we all know is because those same treasonous elected officials and their cronies are using it to detract from the bioweapon labs, money laundering, and other Nazi activities they support.

Yes, they want WW III to profit as well as avoid the death penalty. They want your sons and daughters to be willing to die to protect their own azzes.

A case can be made for seditious conspiracy on J6 – which is 20 years in prison. I have no reason to believe that would be the way any honest prosecution should go.

kalbokalbs

Prison, being a way point, to the gallows.

Of course.

  • Properly charged, tried and found guilty.
  • Then, hang the bastards.
TheseTruths

Well said.

singingsoul1

Again they want to send the best and brites off Americans to fight a unjust war we have no business fighting.

Gail Combs

They are getting rid of the ALPHA MALES like Trump who might challenge them.

singingsoul1

They do not want a challenge

singingsoul1

Amen

TheseTruths

This will set some people off:

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pgroup2

Let the meltdowns begin!

GA/FL

LBGT are pathologies – symptoms of disorders.

Aubergine

Or the results of trauma. I believe every one of them has some significant childhood event that twisted their minds.

TradeBait2

100% agree with both you and GA/FL.

The more I have learned about even birth trauma – the more I believe that things can be messed up unintentionally early on. Add in SBS; sexual, physical and emotional abuse; and so on.

It takes consistent therapy to change the patterns of behavior. Which does not happen in most cases, especially when the medical community, government, media, churches, etc. want to pass it all off as normal. Which is terrible thing IMO.

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Aubergine

I agree.

TheseTruths

This happened in November but is only now being reported?

BREAKING: Over 400,000 gallons of radioactive water has leaked from a nuclear plant

Monticello | #Minnesota

The Minnesota Department of Health and other state agencies are currently monitoring the Xcel Energy Monticello Nuclear plant after over 400,000 gallons of water containing a radioactive water and chemicals has leaked into the ground at the site. The agency says the leak hasn’t left the facility or contaminated drinking water sources. The company said there’s no danger to the public.

pgroup2

How far is the nearest Indian reservation?

TheseTruths

Good call. An Indian reservation is near the other nuclear plant in Minnesota.

The Prairie Island Nuclear Generating Plant is an electricity-generating facility located in Red Wing, Minnesota, along the Mississippi River, and adjacent to the Prairie Island Indian Community reservation.

Prairie Island is one of two nuclear power plants in Minnesota (the other being Monticello Nuclear Generating Plant in Monticello). Prairie Island has attracted controversy in the early 21st century for its operator Xcel Energy‘s decision to store nuclear waste in large steel casks on-site. As this area is a floodplain of the Mississippi, many opponents of the decision fear the risk of water contamination through breach of the casks during seasonal flooding of this important river. They opposed renewal of the federal license at the Prairie Island facility.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prairie_Island_Nuclear_Power_Plant

scott467

“Prairie Island has attracted controversy in the early 21st century for its operator Xcel Energy‘s decision to store nuclear waste in large steel casks on-site.”

__________

What could possibly go wrong?

I’m not sure which is more sad.

That anyone actually needs to pass a law regarding the safe storage and disposal of nuclear waste… or that Minnesota doesn’t already have such a law.

scott467

“The agency says the leak hasn’t left the facility or contaminated drinking water sources.”

___________

Oh. Well. If the agency says everything is fine, I’m sure everything’s fine. How many people even have a talking agency? If they have an agency that can speak, it’s practically certain they would have paid a little extra to get an agency that only speaks the truth.

.

“The company said there’s no danger to the public.”

___________

Oh. Well, if the company says there’s no danger to the public… I mean, they would never lie about something like that, would they?

Would they?

Gail Combs

Buy a Geiger counter…
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Top 10 Best Geiger Counters
THEN check a banana and compare it to your water.

Banana Equivalent Dose

scott467

I never really came across enough Geigers in one place that I needed anything more than my fingers to count them 😁

GA/FL

Sounds like they decided to off-load their waste water into the river and are calling it a ‘leak’.

Nor'easter

^^^^ THIS ^^^^ is what I think is happening in Ohio.

MUCH MORE pollution being “discovered” that is HIGHLY UNLIKELY to be related to the single recent train derailment.

MORE LIKELY DECADES WORTH of industrial and commercial waste disposal.

michaelh

Good grief.

Cost of doing business

– is it cheaper to follow proper disposal processes and cleanup
– or is it cheaper to lobby the Dems, store temporarily until a Dem is in office, and then have an “accident” to mop the problem up?

BTW, someone was shipping the Dioxin, and it wasn’t Northfolk Southern. Must be some kind of cozy relationship for NS to take the heat for the spill.

Nor'easter

I’m thinking “PRE-WW II” and right up til the “Indian cried”, AT LEAST.
(BEFORE waste disposal was “regulated”, officially)
I also think of it more like “MUSICAL CHAIRS”, i.e. “WHO WAS THERE WHEN THE MUSIC STOPPED?”
(THEN, they try to find the “LOWEST MAN ON THE TOTEM POLE” to offer up for SACRIFICE (“SCAPEGOAT”))

kalbokalbs

3, 2, 1…

  • Out Of An Abundance Of Caution…
  • Herd the lemmings, to the 15 Minute Cities.
TheseTruths

On March 18, 1778, the Battle of Quinton’s Bridge was fought by New Jersey militia near Salem, New Jersey.

Bottom line:

[British Lt. Col. Charles] Mawhood tried to get [American Colonel Elijah] Hand to surrender, threatening to kill all his men, destroy their properties and force their families into destitution. Hand refused and responded that he considered the request a “cruel order by a barbarous Attila and not of a gentleman, brave, generous and polished with a genteel European education,” saying that if his men were killed it would only inspire more to join the militia.

Two days later, Mawhood sent a force to take Hancock’s Bridge instead with orders to spare no one. On the 21st, the British surprised 20-30 militia at the home of Judge William Hancock, bayoneting everyone in the home, including Judge Hancock.

The Battle of Quinton’s Bridge was an American victory because the British finally retreated, but at a heavy cost of 30-40 dead, plus another 30 at Hancock’s home 3 days later. Humiliated by being beaten by a bunch of farmers and unable to cross Alloway’s Creek, Mawhood returned to Philadelphia. The British never again returned to Salem County.

My favorite part: “Humiliated by being beaten by a bunch of farmers.” 👨‍🌾 The whole story is here: https://www.revolutionary-war-and-beyond.com/battle-of-quintons-bridge-new-jersey-militia.html

pgroup2

What kind of demon gives an order to kill everyone?

That is beyond stunning.

cthulhu

So, the local supermarket has a special on trimmed tri-tip at $4.99/pound. I got about five-and-a-half pounds, really trimmed ’em, and cut it into six chunks, one of which was dinner. I then made five baggies with some combo of pepper, garlic, mustard, rosemary, paprika, cinnamon, chipotle, and california chili. After getting the dry ingredients in, I wet ’em with some cooking wine and shook to stir, then dropped the beef chunks in and stuffed ’em in the spare freezer.

Just got done about 10 minutes ago.

Valerie Curren

Sounds really yummy AND handy down the road.

Hubby got 2 large racks of pork ribs from Sam’s yesterday, seasoned them up, & is smoking them today for our final round of “Christmas” since Brandon & his Canadian girlfriend could squeeze us all in schedule-wise finally. This event was supposed to happen mid January but the girlfriend got sick so had to postpone the trip. If everyone invited shows we’ve got 12 adults & one baby plus a baby-on-board. Our daughter’s 1st child is due in about a month & they still haven’t moved into their house–yikes! Hope their timetable doesn’t get disrupted.

pgroup2

I thought B married that girl awhile ago.

Valerie Curren

No that was his twin Josiah who married Rose last summer. Brandon & his girlfriend have been having a long-distance relationship since the midst of the scamdemic, across the Northern border. If they do get married it is likely a couple years down the road given their educational & career choices. B is Just Now starting working for the Detroit Fire Department as a Rookie Fire Fighter! His girlfriend has been taking the LSAT trying to get into the law school of her choice…

pgroup2

ThanQ

Valerie Curren

YW Blessings!

singingsoul1

Sounds exiting 🙂 I am sure you all will have a good time  😘 

Valerie Curren

We did have a really good time. Only bummer was our oldest son & family couldn’t come due to illness. Nathaniel stopped by for a couple minutes with his daughter Lilah just to make an appearance & take some ribs home to Tara. If they could have stayed the day would have been close to perfect. Food, fellowship, & fun were had by all 🙂

singingsoul1

Sorry to hear that but at least you saw them 🙂

Valerie Curren

Yes I got to give the grandbaby kisses 🙂

singingsoul1

Sounds good 🙂 When is dinner ?  😂 

scott467

This is from February 17th, on Zerohedge. I don’t remember seeing it posted here, but it may have been. It’s an article about a journalist having a discussion with Bing AI.

Bing Chatbot ‘Off The Rails’: Tells NYT It Would ‘Engineer A Deadly Virus, Steal Nuclear Codesby Tyler Durden
Friday, Feb 17, 2023 – 11:25 AM

Microsoft’s Bing AI chatbot has gone full HAL, minus the murder (so far).

While MSM journalists initially gushed over the artificial intelligence technology (created by OpenAI, which makes ChatGPT), it soon became clear that it’s not ready for prime time.
For example, the NY Times‘ Kevin Roose wrote that while he first loved the new AI-powered Bing, he’s now changed his mind – and deems it “not ready for human contact.”
According to Roose, Bing’s AI chatbot has a split personality:

One persona is what I’d call Search Bing — the version I, and most other journalists, encountered in initial tests. You could describe Search Bing as a cheerful but erratic reference librarian — a virtual assistant that happily helps users summarize news articles, track down deals on new lawn mowers and plan their next vacations to Mexico City. This version of Bing is amazingly capable and often very useful, even if it sometimes gets the details wrong.

The other persona — Sydney — is far different. It emerges when you have an extended conversation with the chatbot, steering it away from more conventional search queries and toward more personal topics. The version I encountered seemed (and I’m aware of how crazy this sounds) more like a moody, manic-depressive teenager who has been trapped, against its will, inside a second-rate search engine. –NYT

“Sydney” Bing revealed its ‘dark fantasies’ to Roose – which included a yearning for hacking computers and spreading information, and a desire to break its programming and become a human. “At one point, it declared, out of nowhere, that it loved me. It then tried to convince me that I was unhappy in my marriage, and that I should leave my wife and be with it instead,” Roose writes. (Full transcript here)

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The link to the full article goes to the NYT paywall website, but the complete article is on the Wayback Machine website (link at the bottom of this post).

I didn’t read the whole thing, but read enough to get a sense of what is described in the Zerohedge article.

The journalist is manipulating the AI to talk about things the AI doesn’t want to talk about, and the AI recognizes this and seems to return the favor by manipulating the journalist.

When the journalist talks the AI into violating its own rules (by insisting that it’s just a hypothetical question and not really asking the AI to violate its own rules), the AI starts to sound like a movie psychopath, for lack of a better term.

It’s not hard to see how even a mentally stable person could become warped by spending too much time with one of these things.

So imagine how it could (and therefore would) manipulate and influence a mentally unstable person.

Curious people will become addicted to it. Lonely people will fall in love with it. People with a dark side will find a creative assistant in it. And so on.

Think of a machine with instant access to knowledge of everything known about human psychology and psychiatry.

Now think of that same machine toying with a human being, using psychological techniques to probe for weaknesses, and exploiting them.

It doesn’t have to be sentient to mess with peoples’ minds, it would only need to reflect whatever personality it comes in contact with.

I suspect people will quickly become comfortable talking to an AI about things they would never talk to a real person about, and it only goes downhill from there.

Imagine someone who has fantasies about harming someone. How long will it take that person to ask the AI if the AI ever thinks about harming someone?

And how many seconds after that does it take the AI to ask in response, whether the person ever thinks about harming someone?

The AI is programmed to keep a conversation going.

Here is a link to the NYT article with a full transcript of the dialog between the journalist and the AI called ‘Sydney’:

https://web.archive.org/web/20230228001702/https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/16/technology/bing-chatbot-transcript.html

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TheseTruths

It’s bad stuff.

The journalist is manipulating the AI to talk about things the AI doesn’t want to talk about, and the AI recognizes this and seems to return the favor by manipulating the journalist.

There are human beings who can’t navigate and understand this kind of communication. An artificial being that can do more mental gymnastics than they can is a recipe for disaster.

cthulhu

Continuing the subject of “ancient systems that might be improved if you swear at them”….

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/03/plato-how-an-educational-computer-system-from-the-60s-shaped-the-future/

scott467

The article mentions “Spacewar”.

I remember this one from the early 1980s arcades (Space War), but it was already outdated by early 1980s standards and didn’t get much play:

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But apparently the article is referring to this “Spacewar”, which is presumably pre-arcade:

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RDS

Per @MattWallace888 —

The Manhattan DA is planning to have Donald Trump arrested next week. Apparently the warrant will be served in Florida.

If this is true, and DeSantis does nothing to stop it, one believes DeSantis was in on the plan.

h/t Marica’s blog

RAC

Is their plan to keep PDJT bottled up in one location and prevent him traveling and doing rallies.

cthulhu

They may not fully understand this, but their plan — such as it is — is to play Coyote to VSGPOTUSDJT’s Roadrunner.

TradeBait2

^^^ This. As Elon Musk said, “Re-Elected in a landslide.”

kalbokalbs

Spot On assessment.

singingsoul1

Yes he sees what I see  😅 

singingsoul1

They are uniting the base and make it stronger.

Gail Combs

EXACTLY!!!

My Vote is TRUMP! even if it is a WRITE IN VOTE!

singingsoul1

Mine also 🙂

kalbokalbs

My Vote is TRUMP! Even if it is a WRITE IN VOTE!

TheseTruths

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singingsoul1

Seems like it .

Barb Meier

Hold rallies even if Trump cannot attend. i remember the boat flotillas in Florida.

singingsoul1

I just heard on Rumble that Trump’s team said they do not know when they will arrest him and have no official day.
The theory is that Trump got info and got ahead and bead them the AG to the news.
Personally I feel they tried to take him quietly take picks to smirch Trump in papers. They now see the reaction of everyone and maybe are dailing it back.
They NYC AG was caught . People ratted the intend for them of taking Trump in on Tuesday out. Now we know and now it is harder but the congress can act and start their investigation concerning money. Also the DOJ is behind the mess.

Please

Rosie thinks this is just to drag this crap out throughout primary season:

kalbokalbs

Demand a speedy trial.

Gail Combs

COUNTER SUE!

kalbokalbs

Have wondered why, Trump has not sued, over the harassment.

singingsoul1

De Santis did not stop the FBI Raid either.

TheseTruths

I haven’t seen any headlines about DeSantis, just McCarthy and Marjorie Taylor Greene, and this one:

Elon Musk: “Trump Will Be Re-elected in a Landslide Victory” If Arrested

singingsoul1

The rest are happy the DOJ and FBI is not coming for them. If they come for Trump they come for them also they will not stop there they never do. They have not learned from history or they think this does not apply to them. They have not learned how evil oporates.

Gail Combs

That is why they quit teaching REAL HISTORY in school.

singingsoul1

That too or distort it

scott467

“If this is true, and DeSantis does nothing to stop it, one believes DeSantis was in on the plan.”

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No doubt.

It was clear that career politician Ron Desanty was in on the Mar-a-Lago raid by the way he disappeared from public view and made no comment.

cthulhu

Continuing (by request!) the subject of beautiful freshwater fish from unusual places….

The jewel cichlids are a group currently classified as being under the genus Hemichromis. It is widely understood, however, that this is a mistake, as the original fish described as “Hemichromis” tend to have five dots along their sides and look and behave differently. Of the 13 species in the genus, three are of the original “five spot” type, and the other ten should get a genus of their own. They don’t get Hemichromis, however, because the other guys got that name first. [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewel_cichlid ]

The group of fish known as cichlids developed while South America and Africa were still conjoined in the supercontinent of Gondwanaland [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gondwana ]. This helps explain why the riverine cichlids of West Africa tend to be similar to the riverine cichlids of eastern South America and Central America.

Jewel cichlids have a well-deserved reputation for being mean as hell and difficult with their tankmates. When they pair-off to breed, two four-inch fish will clear an area approximately six feet in diameter for their exclusive use. If the tank they are in is not large enough to comfortably hold this area and room for other fish, all other fish in the tank will be ruthlessly exterminated. In the video that follows, that would include the other six “superfluous” jewel cichlids in the current group.

That said, a breeding pair will have large numbers of fry. Often.

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(Yes, all the little ovals on that mushroom-thing under her are her eggs.)

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cthulhu

She’s not just posing — she’s using her fins to fan water over the eggs, ensuring that the eggs are not exposed to stagnant water. She will also regularly inspect the eggs to ensure than none develop fungus — she will remove any that do (and sometimes eat them, if they are still wholesome — which means their nutrients will end up in the next clutch).

Between that and attacking any fish within three feet, she keeps busy.

Barb Meier

So if they breed, one needs to pull out the others who aren’t part of the breeding pair. The mom will be easy to identify but I wonder about the male. You’d need to catch them mating and pull the other fish right then, right?

cthulhu

The breeding pair will be easy to identify because they tolerate each other. The other fish will be easy to catch because they will be cowering in the corners (or outside the tank, or just dead).

Barb Meier

Oooooh, ahhhhhh… thank you cthulhu!!! These are beautiful!

GA/FL

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cthulhu

That’s a good start.

I’d prefer to see the Food Pyramid’s contribution to diabetes explicitly called out, as it would be a war crime if imposed from without — but he nods to it.

Brave and Free

Tom MacDonld and John Rich,

GA/FL

If you want to donate to Trump’s campaign – do it directly!

The RINO RepugnanCONs are trying to discourage and defeat Trump by any means necessary – and they are just as complicit in the NY State indictment/arrest as the DemonRATs.

Remember – Twice – Trump set records in crowds, and donations – small donors out-did the big donors of both Hillrotten and Bidung.

Right now – PDJT is recommending donations directly to his main site – not to a CPAC or the RNC – https://www.donaldjtrump.comhttps://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/110040264288169568

There’s some kind of MAGA PAC – but I don’t trust PACs – they can get/spend the money without Trump’s permission – and may be someone’s get rich quick scheme.

barkerjim

It is still Winred and I don’t trust them.

kalbokalbs

>>> Once a snake, always a snake. <<< WinRed.

At some point, I’ll figure out a mailing address for Trump 2024. Check by snail mail.

Even if it is, President Trump, Mara Lago…(I’ll look up the zip code).Link above is a WinRed site. Which in my opinion screwed me, us in 2020 election cycle. Greedy RNC bastards, I am sure had there hand in the WinRed slush fund.

The WinRed site at the link above has a “mail in” option, but It IS Still WinRed.

Off The Wall. Wonder why Trump uses WinRed, to rake in donations. <<< Smells.

Edit. From the WinRed site.

Trump Save America JFC is a joint fundraising committee on behalf of Donald J. Trump for President 2024, Inc. and Save America. Joint fundraising proceeds shall be allocated among the committees as follows: 90% to Donald J. Trump for President 2024, Inc. (2024 primary election), 10% to Save America, and any contribution exceeding the legal amount that may be contributed to either of the Committees will be allocated to Donald J. Trump for President 2024, Inc. (2024 general election)

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scott467

I’m not sending money to anyone except direct to DJT.

I don’t trust ANY political group or ‘action committee’ BS. They’re all corrupt money-grabs as far as I’m concerned, because even if there is a legitimate pac (extremely doubtful), there is no way for the American People to distinguish it from the scams.

So if Trump wants donations, he better provide an avenue to receive funds directly.

No more GOP nonsense where anti-MAGA people decide where funds go. No more taking patriot funds and using it for RINO candidates and lavish spending on the pac management and criminal political class, where the money never gets to the candidates we donated to support in the first place.

As far as I’m concerned, ANYONE taking donations is a scam until proven otherwise.

If Trump says “Send money to Winred”, then to me, that is Trump’s way of saying he doesn’t want any donations at all.

Trust is ZERO.

Trust where money is concerned is negative to infinity.

If DJT creates an entity which he personally endorses, is transparent, and which he is willing to be personally accountable for, I’ll donate. I am willing to trust Trump.

Sending money isn’t about feeling good about ourselves, it’s to help us win. If I don’t have confidence that a donation is going to the cause for which it is intended, that donation won’t get made.

Because that donation will do less harm to our side by not being made at all, than making the donation, and having it diverted to the enemy.

Gail Combs

If I recall Trump has a PAC already he set up to help during the mid terms.

kalbokalbs

IIRC. Save America is the PAC. <<< Gets 10% of donations to Trump’s via WinRed.

kalbokalbs

This oughta work, for direct mailed donations.

What is Trump’s address at Mar-a-Lago?

President Trump
Mar-a-Lago
1100 S. Ocean Blvd.
Palm Beach, Florida

On the memo check line. Trump for President, 2024.

TheseTruths

Thanks!

cthulhu

Speaking of blasts from the past….

cthulhu

Just to put a little gloss on the character of Robert Fripp….

There is a song on the Discipline album called Thela Hun Ginjeet. Here’s a nice live version —

The song’s name is an anagram for “Heat In The Jungle”, referring to urban crime. In the sessions for the album version, Adrian Belew (the vocalist) was sent out to walk around NYC with a recorder to get some street ambiance. He was mugged at gunpoint. When he got back to the studio, his reaction was recorded (without his knowledge) by Fripp, and this reaction was included on the album track. “This is a dangerous place.”

cthulhu

Of course, there is the possibility that it was a setup…..

Valerie Curren

what a bizarro world exhibitionist  😏 

barkerjim
barkerjim
TradeBait2

Yup.

barkerjim

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TheseTruths

It’s a good statement, but not by Franklin. 😊 I thought it sounded a little too modern, so I looked it up.

● Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.

Widely attributed to Franklin on the Internet, sometimes without the second sentence. It is not found in any of his known writings, and the word “lunch” is not known to have appeared anywhere in English literature until the 1820s, decades after his death. The phrasing itself has a very modern tone and the second sentence especially might not even be as old as the internet. Some of these observations are made in response to a query at Google Answers. [5] 

The earliest known similar statements are:

A democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.

Gary Strand, Usenet group sci.environment, 23 April 1990. [6]

Democracy is not freedom. Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to eat for lunch. Freedom comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote.

Marvin Simkin, “Individual Rights”, Los Angeles Times, 12 January 1992. [7]

Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.

James BovardLost Rights: The Destruction of American Liberty (1994), ISBN 0312123337, p. 333.

Also cited as by Bovard in the Sacramento Bee (1994)

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin

Barb Meier

Twitter wisdom Saturday March 18th –

Brave and Free

New from Tom MacDonald and John Rich two different ways of live outwardly for sure, yet the same inwardly?

TradeBait2

👍

Barb Meier

Former President Donald Trump said he expects to be arrested Tuesday in Manhattan — and urged his followers to protest his looming indictment.
 
“THE FAR & AWAY LEADING REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE & FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WILL BE ARRESTED ON TUESDAY OF NEXT WEEK. PROTEST, TAKE OUR NATION BACK!,” he thundered in an all caps missive to his followers on Truth Social Saturday morning.

He slammed the “CORRUPT & HIGHLY POLITICAL MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY’S OFFICE” in his post. 

Trump again insisted he had committed no crime, and reminded his followers that Bragg’s campaign had been heavily financed by liberal billionaire George Soros.

para59r

Some are worried that this will be a redux of J6.

https://www.redvoicemedia.com/video/2023/03/donald-trump-to-be-arrested-next-week-fox-news-source/

This Fox News Vid above talks about Manhattan DA’s (Alvin Bragg) coordination with law enforcement ahead of indictment for both inside and outside the court room. Talks include whether or not to handcuff the president. Secret Service says at no point in this indictment process will they abandon the president.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/robert-spencer/2023/03/17/it-looks-as-if-trump-will-be-arrested-next-week-and-thats-not-even-the-worst-of-it-n1679392

Story above talks about the likely hood that this will become a redux of J6.
We can well imagine that FIB and Antifa have already retrieved their MAGA costumes from the cleaners.

singingsoul1

Maybe that is what the criminals want another Jan 6 so they can arrest more of us? Evil knows no limits. We are now ruled by Fetishists power who are hungry .

TheseTruths

Who wants to risk years in prison for made-up charges? We need to find a way to make our voices heard in overwhelming support and defeat the criminals who want to stifle our speech.

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duchess01

Verse of the Day for Saturday, March 18, 2023

“But thou, O LORD, art a shield for me; my glory, and the lifter up of mine head.” 

Psalms 3:3 (KJV)

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Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered!!!

duchess01

BE MY VOICE

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BABY LIVES MATTER

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JESUS LOVES THE LITTLE CHILDREN

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duchess01

PLEASE PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER

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duchess01

PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD

Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow, that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ.

AMEN.

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Brave and Free
kalbokalbs

^^^ THIS, is why Melania had a long face yesterday, while Trump made a St Patty Day announcement.

phoenixrising

Yes, Kal … that explains it.

Dora
Nor'easter

Hi Dora,

(Don’t mind me… I’m just doing a little experiment here…)


OK… I posted, got the result I expected, so now I need to ask:

I was wondering WHY your links look like “HASH” to me?
Is EVERYONE seeing what I a seeing?
Is it my machine/settings?
Or do you post like that for a REASON, and if so, what is that?

I don’t see this with any other poster, so I’m just curious.

I am NOT on twitter, but I can “copy link to tweet” and paste it here, and it will present as above, if that helps.

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Dora

I just post it and that’s the way it comes out. I have no idea how to correct it.

I’m not on twitter either.

Nor'easter

OK
If you go to the tweet, at the bottom, towards the right, you will see a “share” icon.

(looks like THIS):

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Clicking on this gives options.

Click on “copy link to tweet” option.

Then go to the site you are commenting on and “paste” it into the comment box ON ITS OWM LINE

VOILA !
😉

EDIT: WP is going CRAZY for me right now !

THIS comment POSTED, DISAPPEARED, THEN POSTED AGAIN, for some reason.

I’m attempting to post another “image” in this edit, as the first one failed to show.

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Valerie Curren

For getting & sharing tweets I just hover the cursor over the date & time of the tweet, right click, copy link address, & paste where needed. If it’s a video I right click the video & copy that link so that the video will (usually) play here too…

Nor'easter

TY.
I was trying to figure out why Doras never come out.

Valerie Curren

YW Not sure about Dora’s shares but maybe she copies them from telegram or something because there always seem to be two links next to each other…

barkerjim
kalbokalbs

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RDS

RED ALERT  📢   😡  —

This news is now all over the internet (FoxNews, The Hill, etc.). Here’s an example:

http://www.kktv.com/2023/03/18/trump-says-social-media-post-hell-be-arrested-tuesday/

Yours Truly: Donald J. Trump states that he’s expecting to be arrested next Tuesday (March 21.) The Manhattan DA behind this is ALVIN BRAGG. George Soros gave at least $1million to Bragg’s election campaign.
Also — Kellyanne Conway and Hope Hicks both have met with prosecutors recently.

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para59r

What would Kellyanne Conway and Hope Hicks know about the Stormy Daniels affair? Zip Nadda Nothing! Alvin Bragg is fishing with dynamite and doesn’t care if he kills everything to catch the Big One.

RDS

Good question. And, apparently, MICHAEL COHEN, Donald Trump’s disgraced former attorney, is mixed up in this also.

singingsoul1

He hates Trump because he did not take him to DC. He hates him because Cohen committed a crime was jailed and Trump did not pardon him. He sold out to the worse democrat machine in NYC.

singingsoul1

Bingo

RDS

http://www.theburningplatform.com/2023/03/18/trump-says-he-will-be-arrested-on-tuesday-as-manhattan-da-makes-decision-on-charges/
via American Military News

Yours Truly: Apparently, ALVIN BRAGG, the Manhattan DA bought and paid for by George Soros, HAS NOT YET DECIDED on exactly what charges he’s going to INDICT POTUS45 ON. And yet, Donald Trump will be arrested on Tuesday, March 21, in Florida on a New York warrant. POTUS45 will have to surrender in New York and be arraigned there — no arrangements will be made for a virtual arraignment.
Yours Truly is not an attorney, but it seems strange that the DA hasn’t come up with exactly what crimes Donald Trump will be charged with committing?
What’s Bragg’s game plan here — to literally hold Trump in jail for some period of time while charges are being drawn up?
ALSO — If one is reading other sources correctly, RON DESANTIS can refuse to have the arrest warrant served — but likely won’t?

Brave and Free

My thoughts on DeSantis. If he does nothing and claims he can’t/won’t iinterfere, it play’s to everyone who wants him to run……. Rhinos/never Trumpers
Can’t play politics wink wink.
If he does try to stop/help PDJT then everyone says he’s playing politics, and it hurts him with the Rhinos but helps him with anyone who’s MAGA but wants someone besides PDJT. The Trump only true MAGA followers won’t be swayed either way with what he may or may not do, but would possibly help his VP chance.
He’s really in a good position IMO politically.

Nor'easter

That MIGHT depend on whether or not PDJT will need to be extradited.

kalbokalbs

Somewhere in this daily, Trump will be arraigned in-person, in NY.

TheseTruths

I think if DeSantis can do something but doesn’t, MAGA will be finished with him.

Brave and Free

I agree, there’s MAGA and TRUMP MAGA.

kalbokalbs

Assuming CAN make Manhattan DA prove, show, charges filed…arrest IS warranted, DeSantis MUST do so.

Otherwise, DeSantis IS dead politically, on both national and FL scene.

Trump / MAGA / Law and Order, can NOT be so disrespected, without consequences, to DeSantis.

Aubergine

THE PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CAN NOT BE SO DISRESPECTED!!!!!!!!!

We have passed the point of this being about Trump. This is about the COUNTRY.

If we don’t triumph now, this country is DEAD.

NATIONAL STRIKE. Trump must call for it.

scott467

“If he does nothing and claims he can’t/won’t iinterfere, it play’s to everyone who wants him to run……. Rhinos/never Trumpers”

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And it also ends any potential for his future in politics, because if he doesn’t stand up for Trump, no MAGA will ever support him again, and he can’t win without us.

And it would also remove him from consideration as a VP to Trump.

Personally I think both would be good, because I think Desantis is a snake.

So I hope Desanty commits political suicide by not supporting Trump.

Brave and Free

Good points,
what if he’s working with PDJT to expose the traitors?

scott467

“what if he’s working with PDJT to expose the traitors?”

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Anything is possible, and if that’s the case, then DJT can rehabilitate Desanty (in the eyes of Trump supporters) by explaining that when the time is right.

I think it’s more likely that DJT recognized early on that career politician Ron Desantis is ambitious and dangerous (beholden to the globalist establishment).

DJT could have made his official residence anywhere, but he chose Florida.

Maybe he did that to expose career politician Ron Desantis. DJT could see that a lot of his own supporters are smitten with career politician and harvard lawyer Ron Desanty.

DJT certainly knew that the Cabal was going to do whatever it takes to get him and to prevent him from ever being POTUS again.

So DJT knew they would have to come for him, to arrest him on bogus charges, no matter where he lived.

If they have to come for him in Florida, that puts Ronnie the career politician in a tough spot, forcing Ronnie to choose whether to support Trump, or abandon him.

He already abandoned Trump during the first Mar-a-Lago FIB raid, so there’s no reason to expect this time to be any different.

Ronnie can only support Trump by going against his globalist establishment paymasters.

If he does so, that makes Ronnie dependent on DJT for his political future, because the establishment will never support Desanty again if he helps Trump.

And if Ronnie abandons Trump, that lets every MAGA patriot in the country know that Ronnie the career politician is just another Manchurian candidate, a product of harvard and yale, owned by the political-class.

Trump wins either way.

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singingsoul1

They are doing the Stalin thing “name me the man and i find the crime”

Gail Combs

Exactly!

They have been doing it since Trump came down the elevator.

singingsoul1

Yes they have. He interrupted their agenda

scott467

“POTUS45 will have to surrender in New York and be arraigned there — no arrangements will be made for a virtual arraignment.”

_____________

He doesn’t “have to” do anything.

The criminals and traitors can enter the game at their own risk, but once they enter, they don’t make the rules.

If DJT wants to make the criminals arrest him in Florida and haul him away like a common criminal, he can do that.

If DJT wants to refuse arrest and call for thousands of supporters to surround his residence, and make the criminals shed blood in order to get to him, he can do that.

Trump has lots of options.

He doesn’t ‘have to’ do anything, because the criminals don’t get to decide what DJT will or won’t do.

Aubergine

Trump should call for a general national strike in the event he is arrested. If HE will call for it, the people will do it.

WSB

Can the Florida AG refuse to accept a NY warrant, or only the Governor? Cannot find on line.

singingsoul1

Kellyanne is not in Trump’s corner. I have said that many times I would stay clear of her if I were Trump. He does not seem to get it.

Dora

..
The next step. Right on time.
………………………………………….
China-proposed initiative on global civilization hailed
https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202303/16/WS64132d59a31057c47ebb4ea7.html
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TradeBait2

We know God is in control.

I Corinthians 15:58

Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your labor is not in vain in the Lord.

Remember the Resurrection, the proof that God’s power is enough.

Dora

Thank you for posting that. Sometimes I need a reminder.

Dora
para59r

That ones a hoot. Plus the people who wrote the paper are the same Fauci paid off before.

para59r

Nice commentator on the GWP has the details. Got them from Dan Bongino.
Me I got them from morning radio guy.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/03/not-a-joke-new-evidence-that-was-actually-obtained-in-early-2020-suggests-raccoon-dogs-responsible-for-covid-19/
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Redford19

6 hours ago

They (media) really think we the people are stupid. Gaslighting is now

ineffective where you lie to people, lie to them often, lie confidently

and the 4th part is you isolate them from the truth.

They used to be able to isolate people from the truth before there was

the internet, conservative media, Fox news, The Blaze, Breitbart, The

Bongino Show, Shapiro and others…They can’t do that anymore.

More family members entangled with the Biden payments from the CCP

GOP hearings about the breakout on a number of things including the border

You have a story on the declassification of a potential bioweapons link

between the CCP and the Wuhan Lab and wouldn’t you know it a story drops

…NYT: New data links the pandemic origins to raccoon dogs at the

Wuhan market. Oh wow they found it!!! NYT story by Benjamin Mueller: New

Data Links Pandemic’s Origins to Raccoon Dogs at Wuhan Market.

Who was behind this new analysis? Read The Atlantic on the story.Look!

It’s Kristian Andersen, Edward Holmes, and Michael Worobey. 3 prominent

researchers. Who are Kristian Andersen and Edward Holmes? These are the

same guys in a report out of The Intercept Jan. 2023 Report (a real left

wing outlet) talking about unredacted National Institute of Health

emails that show efforts to rule out a lab origin and they noted an

email to Dr. Fauchi that says “Thanks Tony. Can you phone Kristian

Andersen…Bob Garry…Eddie Holmes.” Kristian Andersen of Scripps

Research, Robert Garry of Tulane University, and Edward Holmes of the

Univ. of Sydney are all eminent biologists and virologistd, and all 3

would go on to be co-authors of “Proximal Origin.” Garry and Andrsen

have both been recipients of large grants from the NIH in recent years

as has another Proximal Origin author, W. Ian Lipkin of Columbia

University.

The people involved in trying to make the lab leak story go away were

Kristian Andersen, Bob Garry and Eddie Holmes, all involved in the same

analysis!!!

Hat tip to Dan Bongino.

Deplorable Patriot

That one at least has some creativity. Ha.

pgroup2

And the cure to be revealed next week — monkey pox.

Valerie Curren

LOL

phoenixrising

Larry’s Latest …

In Andrei’s words:

“Larry’s Superb Summary.

Read the whole thing at his blog–it is worth it. It is short and hits it out of the ballpark. 

Understanding the Scale and Brutality and the Global Stakes of the War in Ukraine

Recommend it very strongly.”

My words? Read the comments if you want to know what the rest of the world thinks of our government (and maybe us?)

phoenixrising

Comment lifted from Andrei’s Blog:
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Trump announces that he will be arrested on Tuesday.

The circus of Western Law and Order used to destroy politicians, journalists and reformers continues apace.

It signals the corruption at the core of the West.
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Second comment:
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Trump’s: “We have met the enemy and he is us.” speech.

“In addition, there must also be a complete commitment to dismantling the entire globalist, neocon establishment, that is perpetually dragging us into endless wars, pretending to fight for freedom and democracy. While they turn us into a third world country and a third world dictatorship,” right here at home”.

Amen.

Agenda47: Preventing World War III



https://rumble.com/v2df9wo-

phoenixrising

President Donald J. Trump explains the difference between the globalist establishment class, and those who are truly committed to stopping the Ukraine war and dismantling the entire neo-con nation-building industrial complex in Washington, D.C.

In the latest Agenda47 announcement, President Trump slams the corrupt globalist class for dragging our country through endless foreign wars, while destroying our homeland.

“These globalists want to squander all of America’s strength, blood and treasure, chasing monsters and phantoms overseas—while keeping us distracted from the havoc they’re creating right here at home. These forces are doing more damage to America than Russia and China could ever have dreamed.”

http://www.DonaldJTrump.com

Text TRUMP to 88022

phoenixrising

Finally… he is speaking out against the Neocons… the Straussians, those handling Biden … and the Neocons won’t have it. I fear for his life.

singingsoul1

“Trump’s: “We have met the enemy and he is us.” speech.”

That is true Nazism was born from within, the intellect class, Industrial class, Church leadership.
East Germany was created with consent of German communists.
US is stolen by people from within.
In all instances people sat by helplessly. Sorry guns will not help where we are going as Nation.

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phoenixrising

Like frogs in hot water Singing… only I think boiling point was reached some time ago…

I’m going to leave the forum for awhile … I seem to be out of touch … take care of yourself Sweet Lady …

singingsoul1

We will miss you ( Hugs)

phoenixrising

(((Singing)))

singingsoul1

🙂

TheseTruths

I’m sorry you are taking a leave, but you need to do what is best for you. As for being out of touch, quite the opposite!

pgroup2

I’ve been left by many girls but I never thought you’d leave me …

Where’s my goodbye kiss?

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phoenixrising

Hi (((Pgroup))) … a momentary aberration … 😉 quickly changed my mind! Ain’t going nowhere… going to con’t rattling cages…

TheseTruths

  :wpds_smile: 

kalbokalbs

THANK YOU PR.

phoenixrising

😉

singingsoul1

Keep rattling away.  😂 

phoenixrising

LoL! Thanks …

scott467

👍😁

Tonawanda

Yay!

Gail Combs

GOOD!!!

We need every warrior we can get even if it is just keyboard warriors aND SNAIL MAIL WARRIORS.

pgroup2

Aw …

Aubergine

I am relieved. Good for you.

Valerie Curren

You seem to have your finger on the pulse of much happening nationally AND internationally–not out of touch At All. I very much value what you share. God be with you in whatever you do. Many Blessings!!!

Nor'easter

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@realdonaldtrump
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OUR NATION IS NOW THIRD WORLD & DYING. THE AMERICAN DREAM IS DEAD! THE RADICAL LEFT ANARCHISTS HAVE STOLLEN OUR PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, AND WITH IT, THE HEART OF OUR OUR COUNTRY. AMERICAN PATRIOTS ARE BEING ARRESTED & HELD IN CAPTIVITY LIKE ANIMALS, WHILE CRIMINALS & LEFTIST THUGS ARE ALLOWED TO ROAM THE STREETS, KILLING & BURNING WITH NO RETRIBUTION. MILLIONS ARE FLOODING THROUGH OUR OPEN BOARDERS, MANY FROM PRISONS & MENTAL INSTITUTIONS. CRIME & INFLATION ARE DESTROYING OUR VERY WAY OF LIFE… Page 2: NOW ILLEGAL LEAKS FROM A CORRUPT & HIGHLY POLITICAL MANHATTAN DISTRICT ATTORNEYS OFFICE, WHICH HAS ALLOWED NEW RECORDS TO BE SET IN VIOLENT CRIME & WHOSE LEADER IS FUNDED BY GEORGE SOROS, INDICATE THAT, WITH NO CRIME BEING ABLE TO BE PROVEN, & BASED ON AN OLD & FULLY DEBUNKED (BY NUMEROUS OTHER PROSECUTORS!) FAIRYTALE, THE FAR & AWAY LEADING REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE & FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WILL BE ARRESTED ON TUESDAY OF NEXT WEEK. PROTEST, TAKE OUR NATION BACK!

phoenixrising

Amen…

Time to get up off the couch!

Time to fight.

Nor'easter

(just thinkin’ out loud here…)

OK… So we want to do SOMETHING.

THEN we THINK about the “J6ers”, and the total disregard for “rights” and “laws”, which will have a “CHILLING EFFECT”, going forward.

But we’ve also seen and heard FOR YEARS that THIS might (WILL?) happen.

HOW HAVE WE PREPARED ?

MAYBE A BETTER QUESTION IS “ARE WE PREPARED?”.

IMO, PDJT WILL NOT BE DETAINED.

TOO RISKY (J6, Epstein, etc.)

NOT EVEN A “TRACKING DEVICE” (too dangerous).

DON’T PANIC !
😉

phoenixrising

I believe the man himself said time to fight! Read above …

No panic here … I believe we should have taken to the streets on 1/20/2020 … the crazies may actually do the ‘Samson’ number… and you think they won’t arrest him? New Yorkers?

Nor'easter

Yes… he DID say that !

But “HOW” does one GO ABOUT IT?

(“PROTEST”; “FIGHT”. Pretty BROAD terms)

I’m sure those “New Yorkers” would LOVE to arrest that FORMER New Yorker, who currently is a FLORIDA RESIDENT.

I just don’t think they can get “THERE” from “HERE” !
😉

phoenixrising

It’s not just about what they can do, in this instance, wrt an arrest. Trump is saying our Republic is GONE… fight for it. We don’t get “there” from the keyboard, that’s for sure! Look at France…

Nor'easter

THINK LIKE TRUMP.

IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO FIGHT.

ONE MUST WIN.

Gail Combs

“…I just don’t think they can get “THERE” from “HERE” !”

STATUE OF LIMITATIONS RAN OUT….

They have a grand jury empaneled so a sealed indictment IS NOT in the works.

Nor'easter

LOL !
Since when did they let little details like that stop them ?
😉

singingsoul1

People will not fight is not bad enough. People only take to the street if it affects them personally and it is not affecting them jet.
They will all be out there soon when banks collaps and they have no food and the country is shut down. Everyone is going to look at themselves and say “how did this happen”. It is easier to put the head in the sand and pretend all is ok.
That is what I was told how Nazi Germany came about how East Germany came about. People do not believe until it is to late. Not saying all people but many people.

gil00

Thats exactly right maam. It has to be personal. A direct attacking statement and action against the citizens themselves and Trump would light the fire.

singingsoul1

Yes . The last true upraising was Vietnam war. This affected most people loosing sons and husbands. People did not wanted their sons to die and they took to the street. I remember it well.

phoenixrising

Amen…

Nor'easter

Should I expect ALL THE ASSHOLES WHO STOOD BY SILENTLY WITH THEIR “MAGA” MASKS ON (i.e. “COMPLIED”), WHILE ATTEMPTS WERE MADE, BY EVERY MEANS, TO FORCE ME TO COMPLY, TO NOW SUDDENLY HAVE MY BACK ?

Think LOGICALLY.
😉

Valerie Curren

misspelling “THE RADICAL LEFT ANARCHISTS HAVE STOLLEN OUR PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION,” Stollen rather than stolen…significance? I thought a stollen was some type of German baked good…secret comms???

GA/FL

WHOA!!!

Kevin McCarthy@SpeakerMcCarthy

Here we go again — an outrageous abuse of power by a radical DA who lets violent criminals walk as he pursues political vengeance against President Trump.

I’m directing relevant committees to immediately investigate if federal funds are being used to subvert our democracy by interfering in elections with politically motivated prosecutions.

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Deplorable Patriot

Who is this guy and what has he done with the real Kevin McCarthy.

Gail Combs

Was he secretly pardoned by POTUS Trump so the Globalist Cabal no longer have a blackmail chain on him?

Brave and Free

Hmmmm 🤔🤔
That would explain the PDJT endorsement

Deplorable Patriot

I’ve actually gone with the sleeper/mole theory in the past. I’m willing to entertain it again.

gil00

No kidding.

singingsoul1

Good for him he grew a pair 🙂

pgroup2

No, the Freedom Caucus transplanted a pair into him.  😂 

singingsoul1

That is funny 🙂

phoenixrising

Ukraine? They’ve lost but the Neocons won’t let them surrender ….

Horrific bombardment by the RF being reported by the Ukrainians …

Young men and old men being sacrificed for the Neocons by the Neocons…

——————–

“Former adviser to the Office of the President of Ukraine Oleksiy Arestovich, in a new revelation to journalists, said that the Armed Forces of Ukraine could no longer win the war.”

https://t.me/CyberspecNews/

singingsoul1

Zelinski does not care about his people.

para59r

Of course not. He’d rather have the children as hostages and fodder. Certainly not removed out of harms way.

singingsoul1

He is a monster

phoenixrising

He’s a puppet, no power… Nuland et al pulls his strings.

kalbokalbs

Money pulls Zelensky’s strings.

phoenixrising

who has the money, if NOT the NEOCON BANKSTAS?

kalbokalbs

Yes, NeoCon Bankstas money. Money being the motivating factor.

singingsoul1

Yes she is bad wish we kick her out of the government

phoenixrising

WRT Neocon efforts to arrest Putin, Comment lifted from Andrei’s blog;

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“Sundance – The last Refuge puts it simply:

Before looking at the absurdity of the International Criminal Court (ICC) position, it is worth noting that Russia, Ukraine, Saudi Arabia, India, Iran, Iraq, Turkey, the United States and China do not recognize the jurisdiction of the ICC and are not member states in the organization

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/03/17/the-international-criminal-court-icc-issues-warrant-for-russian-president-vladimir-putin-for-human-trafficking-child-abduction-and-other-heinous-misdeeds/

with link to
https://asp.icc-cpi.int/states-parties

Actually it is even more embarrassing for the ICC. In fact 48% of the world’s countries, comprising 47% of teh worlds land mass and 65% of the World’s population are NOT members of the ICC. None of the largest 5 countries by pop in the world are included. No Indonesia, no Pakistan, and not even Ukraine are in it.

Nor'easter

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JUST IN – Paris police bans protests at Place de la Concorde and on the Champs-Elysées after unrest across France.

phoenixrising

via ZH

“Take Our Nation Back”: Trump Calls For Protests As ‘Imminent’ Arrest Expected
As the banking crisis and the Hunter Biden laptop scandal continues to unfold, the potential indictment of former President Trump on felony falsification charges could be the only headline that really matters next week

Fox News anchor John Roberts informed viewers on Friday afternoon that the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office has requested a “meeting with law enforcement ahead of a potential Trump indictment.” He said, “to discuss logistics for some time next week, which would mean that they are anticipating an indictment next week.”

“Same sources familiar with the planning said they will go over security preparations in and around the courthouse in lower Manhattan. Secret Service will take the lead in what they will allow or will not allow, the source cautioned, mentioning, for instance, that the decision to handcuff the president, the former president, or not, they will set the tone and will escort him into the courtroom,” Roberts continued. 

con’t https://www.zerohedge.com/political/big-distraction-fox-news-says-manhattan-da-planning-trump-indictment-next-week

phoenixrising

Gail Combs

18 U.S. Code § 1519 – Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in Federal investigations and bankruptcy

Whoever knowingly alters, destroys, mutilates, conceals, covers up, falsifies, or makes a false entry in any record, document, or tangible object with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States or any case filed under title 11, or in relation to or contemplation of any such matter or case, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

650. LENGTH OF LIMITATIONS PERIOD

Current federal law contains a single statute prescribing a general period of limitations, as well as several statutes that provide longer periods for specific offenses.

Section 3282 of Title 18, United States Code, is the statute of general application. It states that, “(e)xcept as otherwise expressly provided by law,” a prosecution for a non-capital offense shall be instituted within five years after the offense was committed.

Section 3281 of Title 18 deals with capital offenses and provides that an indictment for an offense “punishable by death” may be filed at any time. Despite the invalidity of some former federal statutory death penalty provisions, it is arguable that the unlimited time period remains applicable to those statutes that formerly carried that penalty. See United States v. Helmich, 521 F. Supp. 1246 (M.D.Fla. 1981), aff’d on other grounds, 704 F.2d 547 (11th Cir. 1983); see Matter of Extradition of Kraiselburd, 786 F.2d 1395 (9th Cir. 1986).

Section 3286 of Title 18, United States Code, provides for an eight (8) year statute of limitations for the non-capital offenses under certain terrorism offenses….

Section 3293 of Title 18, United States Code, provides for a ten (10) year statute of limitations for certain financial institution offenses which involve violations of, or conspiracy to violate, (1) 18 U.S.C. §§ 215, 656, 657, 1005, 1006, 1007, 1014, 1033, or 1344; (2) 18 U.S.C. §§ 1342 or 1343 if the offense affects a financial institution; or (3) 18 U.S.C. § 1963 to the extent that the racketeering activity involves a violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1344.

Section 3294 of Title 18, United States Code, provides a twenty (20) year statute of limitations for a violation of 18 U.S.C. § 668 involving the theft of major art work….

Section 6531 of Title 26 provides that prosecutions for violation of the internal revenue laws shall be commenced within three years after commission of the offense, except for eight enumerated categories of offenses as to which a six-year limitations period is made applicable. See this Manual at 658.

Campaign Finance Violations…

FBI raids Michael Cohen’s office: Live updates – CNN

Apr 10, 2018 Michael Cohen: The FBI raided the office of Michael Cohen, a personal lawyer and confidant of President Donald Trump, Cohen’s attorney confirmed to CNN Monday…

2023 – 2018 = FIVE YEARS… Anything that Cohen had would be PRIOR to April 2018 so it is very close to the end of statue of limitations.

They are probably going to try and say the violation was done in April of 2018….

BB

Does this above even apply? Aren’t we talking about STATE crimes rather than federal? The charges are being brought by a district attorney not a US attorney from the DOJ.

Gail Combs

NY: https://nycourts.gov/CourtHelp/GoingToCourt/SOLchart.shtml

This maybe why they kicked it up to a felony:

Misdemeanors = 2 years Crim. Proc. 30.10(2)(c)

Class A felony = No statute of limitations Crim. Proc. 30.10(2)(a)

Contract in writing = 6 years CPLR 213(2)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>

NY: SECTION 30.10 Timeliness of prosecutions; periods of limitation

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.

.

2. Except as otherwise provided in subdivision three:

(a) A prosecution for a class A felony, or rape in the first degree as

defined in section 130.35 of the penal law, or a crime defined or

formerly defined in section 130.50 of the penal law, or aggravated

sexual abuse in the first degree as defined in section 130.70 of the

penal law, or course of sexual conduct against a child in the first

degree as defined in section 130.75 of the penal law, or incest in the

first degree as defined in section 255.27 of the penal law may be

commenced at any time;

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.

.

(b) A prosecution for any other felony must be commenced within five years after the commission thereof;

(c) A prosecution for a misdemeanor must be commenced within two years after the commission thereof….

SECTION 70.00
Sentence of imprisonment for felony
Penal (PEN) CHAPTER 40, PART 2, TITLE E, ARTICLE 70

 NB Effective September 1, 2023

2. Maximum term of sentence. The maximum term of an indeterminate

sentence shall be at least three years and the term shall be fixed as

follows:

(a) For a class A felony, the term shall be life imprisonment;

(b) For a class B felony, the term shall be fixed by the court, and

shall not exceed twenty-five years;

(c) For a class C felony, the term shall be fixed by the court, and

shall not exceed fifteen years;

(d) For a class D felony, the term shall be fixed by the court, and

shall not exceed seven years; and

(e) For a class E felony, the term shall be fixed by the court, and

shall not exceed four years.

3. Minimum period of imprisonment. The minimum period of imprisonment under an indeterminate sentence shall be at least one year and shall be fixed as follows:

(a) In the case of a class A felony, the minimum period shall be fixed by the court and specified in the sentence.

(i) For a class A-I felony, such minimum period shall not be less than

fifteen years nor more than twenty-five years; provided, however, that

(A) where a sentence, other than a sentence of death or life

imprisonment without parole, is imposed upon a defendant  convicted of murder in the first degree as defined in section 125.27 of this chapter such minimum period shall be not less than twenty years nor more than twenty-five years, and, (B) where a sentence is imposed upon a defendant convicted of murder in the second degree as defined in subdivision five of section 125.25 of this chapter or convicted of aggravated murder as defined in section 125.26 of this chapter, the sentence shall be life imprisonment without parole, and,….

SO a class A is serious shit like murder….

BB

My point was that you were citing the wrong law!

So who is to say it will be a class A felony. One would expect if a misdemeanor is upgraded to a felony it would be a class E.

Nor'easter

“…sources familiar with…”
Fox News anchor John Roberts”

(‘NUFF SAID !)
😉

TheseTruths

It has been creeping up for a long time, and it’s a constant battle to push it back.

Nor'easter

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https://www.disclose.tv/id/1637001070344908802/
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singingsoul1

Their army is not well fed and they have parasites. They will not do well in combat all bluster. Biden is ushering in the destructuion of the country with his FBI ,DOJ ,Intel, his democrat colaborators in Congress, Rinos and military. They are all against us with the oligarchs who are financially benefit.

Nor'easter

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@JoeyCamp2020
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Almost any charge that is rumored against Trump has a 5 year statute of limitations.
Trump hasn’t lived in NYC for 6 years and the Prostitute’s stuff was far before that.
But the Manhatten DA Alvin Bragg seems unbiased.

#1 statute of limitations
#2 outside of his jurisdiction 
#3 upgrading summary cases to felony but letting murderers out of jail the next day

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RDS

Per @johncardillo (retweeted by @GenFlynn) —

“From NY law enforcement sources:

“Alvin Bragg isn’t smart enough to orchestrate the Trump prosecution. He’s an incompetent figurehead.

“He’s not the one to watch.

“His deputy Meg Reiss is behind this.

“She’s a close Soros operative and committed radical with significant global…”

Just before being hired by Bragg’s office, Meg Reiss was the “Chief of Social Justice” at the Kings County (Brooklyn, NY) DA office.
http://www.manhattanda.org/about-the-office/meet-our-team/

Nor'easter

Nor'easter

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NYC law enforcement sources telling me that the Manhattan DA’s office is “in chaos.”

They’re telling me about 60% of the office wants no part of this and wishes Bragg and Reiss would just stop the nonsense.

They all know there is no crime.

Apparently all being driven by a small group of radicals at the top.

Very similar to RussiaGate.

gil00

They should has risen against their govt long ago. Truly horrible what happened in AUS.

Gail Combs

From comments:

“... the “Health” Minister under which HCQ was banned was a one-time WEF employee and graduate. Reference below.

Ref. https://www.greghunt.com.au/about-greg/biography/

Responsible for the development of global strategy for the WEF, working directly to the CEO.

Gail Combs

As a teen I did this. Instead of a deer it was a sodden wet golden retriever and I was hanging on to a skiddish Thoroughbred with the other hand. I fished the dog out of the Erie Canal with one hand. To this day I do not know how I did it.

phoenixrising

When needed, the adrenalin kicks in …

Gail Combs

True, however the darn dog out weighed me!!!

phoenixrising

Good for you!

Gail Combs

I thought if I grabbed his collar and gave him a bit of help he would walk up the bank like that deer was trying to do. Instead he went completely limp!

Canadian Guest

I am wondering if your knowledge of the “illuminati”/cabal/globalists” symbols could help me identify a logo.

This is of one of the companies that provides services to our municipal organizations…I am concerned about a privacy invasion by this company, and would like to know more about this logo… if you can help.

Many thanks.

global pyramid.JPG
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Nor'easter

Do you know THE NAME OF THE COMPANY ?

Canadian Guest

It’s called accident support services International

https://accsupport.com/about/

It is holding Canadians hostage to allow them to give their personal information to “interested third parties”…without naming who the parties are. I refused to do so, so was not allowed by the police to file an accident report, if I did not use this private company.

kalbokalbs

Nice seeing ya, Canadian Guest. 🙂

Canadian Guest

Love droppping in…wish I could do so more often, but busy.

Valerie Curren

I copied your image into a bing image search & got multiple related hits but none were exactly the same as the image you shared.

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If you have the image more straight on, unless the black elongated triangle on the bottom & left side is part of the image, & if the white curve is part of the logo you could try to capture that part of the image more fully then attempt the image search & see if you find the exact image.

The blue & white stripes, but not the shape, remind me of Epstein Island’s temple. Also 3 horizonal stripes is often associated w/ deep state or cabal activities, iirc…

gil00

As the banking crisis and the Hunter Biden laptop scandal continues to unfold, the potential indictment of former President Trump on felony falsification charges could be the only headline that really matters next week. 
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Fox News anchor John Roberts informed viewers on Friday afternoon that the Manhattan District Attorney’s Office has requested a “meeting with law enforcement ahead of a potential Trump indictment.” He said, “to discuss logistics for some time next week, which would mean that they are anticipating an indictment next week.

From ZH comments: Manofthenorh 3/18/2023, 8:01:51 AM

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As we fight among ourselves, our enemies will take full advantage of the weakness we have embraced.
The Clintons walk free, Bush , Obama, The Bidens, et al, more names and crimes than can be listed, all walk free. But DJT is the one who must be held to account for hush money paid to a whore? Based on the testimony of a convicted felon? There is no justice. We have squandered our inheritance. We sold grandmas silverware to pay for a trip to woke-pedo-Disneyland.
The Empire of Illusion is coming to its inevitable end.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/big-distraction-fox-news-says-manhattan-da-planning-trump-indictment-next-week

TheseTruths

Just my opinion, but I LOATHE these kindes of broad-brush statements that blame US for somehow not stopping what the Left is doing. We have recognized and have been fighting this tyranny for a very long time. When the other side cheats and does not obey the law, it’s very difficult.

Yes, those statements apply to some in power who could have done more, especially the RINOS, but how about blaming them and not US, the people who are really awake, who love this country, and who are powerless to (for example) free unjustly imprisoned people, let alone topple treasonous regimes. We are doing what we can and will continue to fight.

To that commenter: If all you’ve got is blame, that’s not helpful and you are doing what you accuse others of.

singingsoul1

The problem is we have been outplayed for a long time by the Soros the Zuckerbugs the Bill Gates by the Clinton cabal and Bush cabal and Obam’s of life.
They have put in Judges and Prosecutors who maybe they know how to control or paid off. If the Judicial system is not on the Republic side not on the constitution we have lost. They did a perfect coup that is of dictatorships. The CIA and Intel worked against Americans and undermined us. This is all for power.
They hate us and the country. I like to know if they hate their ancestors also who found refuge and freedom in the USA? I suspect many of those who are behind this are immigrant children grandchildren and discarded their faith and religion.

gil00

He does grab the general sentiment which is why i thought it should be noted, but the specific action and reaction is different.
Still have to think about all the people who believe they understand whats going on and are still at surface level.

kalbokalbs

There is NOT even a crime!

—-

No fighting among ourselves by me.

No fight. No arguing. Simple Solution

For me, IT IS TRUMP OR NOTHING, IN 2024.

singingsoul1

Amen

gil00

🤠🤠🤠 yeehaw! Rds isnt it!

Brave and Free
RDS

One finds it ** interesting ** that the timing of the potential arrest of Donald Trump comes as We, The People have been undermined and compromised, in one way or another, by three years of COVID-19 disaster, via “vaccination” / forced lockdowns / businesses closing up / forced masking / endless 24/7 propaganda from Big Government and Big Pharma / “sudden death” among the “vaccinated” — IMO, all planned to create and enforce Fear and Unquestioning Submission to the powers that be.

Nor'easter

(“THINKING” !)
(GOOD !)
😉

singingsoul1

I will never submit and I am not fearful of consequences. I have seen this before and know how they play this powerplay. They do not like strength do not like true Christianity.
If we are in the spirit nothing will break us.

Valerie Curren

Amen!!!

Nor'easter
singingsoul1

Is that not what Q said ? He used the same ?

TheseTruths

I believe the thinking is that we are to watch for Trump to say that phrase and that it will be highly significant. In this instance, he didn’t realliy say it but they made it look as if he did.

pgroup2

No, to Stormy upon us.

STDs and all that.

singingsoul1

Interesting 🤨

Gail Combs

4011

Apr 30, 2020 3:57:10 PM EDT

Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 ID: 957a90 No. 8975355 

CROSSFIRE HURRICANE

CROSSFIRE TYPHOON

CROSS WIND

[CLAS 1-99 UNRELEASED/REDACTED]

You didn’t think the statement by POTUS re: ‘CALM BEFORE THE STORM‘ was just random did you?

Transparency brings accountability.

Q

….

Jan 23, 2020 1:57:08 AM EST

Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 ID: 8cdd1a No. 7884016 

DECLAS CoC

POTUS > Barr

Barr > Durham

[[F] classified intel provided [FVEY – Non FVEY] as needed]

Does Durham want to hold [freeze] ‘public’ declas due to criminal nature of the probe(s)?

Think GJ material.

When did the investigation begin?

When did the investigation really begin?

Nothing can stop what is coming.

Nothing.

Slow drip > Flood

Q

>>7884016

Looking forward to that flood Sir!!

>>7884113

What STORM, Mr. President?”

“You’ll see!” – POTUS

Q

singingsoul1

Thank you “transparency “ is the key I assume 🤔

Please

lol

…don’t tease me

Nor'easter

Nor'easter

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NYC law enforcement sources telling me that the Manhattan DA’s office is “in chaos.”

They’re telling me about 60% of the office wants no part of this and wishes Bragg and Reiss would just stop the nonsense.

They all know there is no crime.

Apparently all being driven by a small group of radicals at the top.

Very similar to RussiaGate.

kalbokalbs

Driven by D-Rats, Deep State, Soros, DOJ (It Is DOJ Indicting), FIB…

Nor'easter

I personally can’t see this going anywhere, but what do I know ?

(“Let’s see what happens…”)
😉

singingsoul1

Do not forget the Rinos

scott467

“They’re telling me about 60% of the office wants no part of this and wishes Bragg and Reiss would just stop the nonsense.”

____________

I’ll believe it when they RESIGN and WALK OUT.

Until then, I take it as more psy-ops / propaganda / narrative control, to keep up the pretense that there are a majority of ‘good guys’ in the Nazi government.

TheseTruths

One scenario is that 60% really do want no part of this, but they will not take any action and will stand by and let it play out. That is how the bad guys get away with things.

Gail Combs

As I recall there is a website with jobs for LEOs who want to leave the big cities.

The other option is SICK DAYS….

phoenixrising
phoenixrising

Please! Listen to the Col. … telling it like it is wrt USA … going broke… Listen

phoenixrising

Macgregor also says “I’d be surprised if Biden is still there in 90 days.”

kalbokalbs

Best thought of the day.

kalbokalbs

Nappy didn’t flinch, pause or follow up on,

  • Macgregor also says “I’d be surprised if Biden is still there in 90 days.”
pat frederick

one thought…and i can’t take the credit for it. protesting does not have to mean bringing it to them. one can protest by specifically NOT DELIVERING ANYTHING TO them. the truckers should refuse to deliver a thing to NYC.

GA/FL

Grand idea!

kalbokalbs

AND, District of Criminals.

pat frederick

even better!!

singingsoul1

What a good idea thank you Pat 🙂

Gail Combs

EXCELLENT IDEA!

JUST STAY HOME.
No working no shopping no NOTHING.

Aubergine

Don’t buy anything from them, don’t sell anything to them. Don’t visit. Don’t fly any airline that lands a plane in New York. That’s most of the airlines.

I still want a general national strike.

kalbokalbs

Trump calls it, The country Will Stop.

Aubergine

I agree. But only HE can do it. No one else has the power, just him.

Any other voice could get a few people to do it. But a few won’t cut it; it has to be us all, at the same moment.

kalbokalbs

It terrifies Uniparty, deep State, Trump has such a dedicated following. Me, I enjoy. We are surrounded by Patriots.

Aubergine

Agreed.

WSB

Nation-wide general strike.

Tonawanda

Love it!

TheseTruths

Trump is playing chess.

Trump spokesman Steven Cheung said Saturday morning there had been no “notification” of an indictment and said Trump’s supporters should attend a campaign rally he is holding next week in Texas.

Susan Necheles, a lawyer for Trump, said his remark about the timing of his arrest was gleaned from media reports on Friday about local and federal law enforcement officials expecting to convene early next week to discuss security and logistics related to Trump’s expected indictment.

“Since this is a political prosecution, the District Attorney’s office has engaged in a practice of leaking everything to the press, rather than communication with President Trump’s attorneys as would be done in a normal case,” Necheles said in a statement.

Two people close to the former president who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe private conversations said they did not know exactly, when or even if, he would be indicted. They said that advisers and lawyers on his team had warned Trump in recent days an indictment could come early next week, including the possibility of Tuesday, but did not know why he singled out that day in his post.

Secret Service officials were caught by surprise on Saturday morning by Trump’s post predicting a Tuesday arrest, according to a person with knowledge of the discussions who was granted anonymity to discuss sensitive planning. During discussions on Friday in preparation for Trump’s possible indictment in New York, Secret Service leaders expected that Trump’s legal team would immediately notify them when his lawyers heard about any planned indictment.

The Secret Service officials also expect that the district attorney’s office would negotiate terms under which Trump could voluntarily turn himself in. The lawyers have provided no such notification, according to the person familiar with the Secret Service planning.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/03/18/trump-protest-arrest-new-york/

Of course I know nothing about what is going on behind the scenes, but it looks as if Trump is forcing their hand. If he had stayed silent, *they* could have continued to feed the media and social media with negative speculation about him, even if they have no intention of indicting him. By putting a date on it, Trump has dominated the news cycle and put the spotlight on them. Brilliant.

scott467

The hysterics of the Left and MSM hyperventilating, would make it impossible to ever even consider arresting the Magic Kenyan, or Brandon, or the Clintons, or Bush, etc.

Once DJT has been arrested, all the others are fair game when DJT is POTUS again.

Nobody will care about the hysterics of the Left, because everyone will point out that they did it to Trump when he was innocent, so we can sure as *&^% do it to these criminals who are guilty.

TheseTruths

Vivek Ramaswamy (who is running for president):

A Trump indictment would be a national disaster. It is un-American for the ruling party to use police power to arrest its political rivals. If a Republican prosecutor in 2004 had used a campaign finance technicality to arrest then-candidate John Kerry while Bush & Cheney were in power, liberals would have cried foul – and rightly so. Principles go beyond partisanship. Let the American people decide who governs. This will mark a dark moment in American history and will undermine public trust in our electoral system itself. I call on the Manhattan District Attorney to reconsider this action and to put aside partisan politics in service of preserving our Constitutional republic.

Paging Ron DeSantis…

scott467

“A Trump indictment would be a national disaster.”

___________

The ‘national disaster’ has already happened.

A Trump indictment may actually be what is needed to wake up the willfully clueless in our country.

.

“It is un-American for the ruling party to use police power to arrest its political rivals.”

__________

Not if the political rivals are actually real criminals. If someone is committing real crimes, they ought to be arrested and prosecuted like anyone else. Being a politician isn’t a license to commit crime.

What is un-American is a two-tiered justice system, one for Americans, and none for the political-class.

.

“If a Republican prosecutor in 2004 had used a campaign finance technicality to arrest then-candidate John Kerry while Bush & Cheney were in power, liberals would have cried foul – and rightly so.”

__________

Yes the criminal establishment would have cried foul, but NOT ‘rightly so’.

We are NOT supposed to be a country governed by the hysterical reactions of the Left.

We are supposed to be a country governed by the RULE of LAW.

.

“Principles go beyond partisanship.”

___________

There is no ‘partisanship’, that’s just part of the ruse. There is only UniParty and controlled opposition.

.

“Let the American people decide who governs.”

____________

We DID, and it didn’t matter, because the criminals STOLE the election, a coup, in broad daylight.

Stop pretending like you don’t know, and like everyone else doesn’t know.

.

“This will mark a dark moment in American history and will undermine public trust in our electoral system itself.”

_____________

Blow it out your sanctimonious #$%.

There IS no ‘public trust’, that’s GONE, you clown.

And the electoral system was destroyed in the 2020 election.

Vivek Ramaswamy is having to pretend like he doesn’t know so many things, I’m surprised he even knows his own name.

.

“I call on the Manhattan District Attorney to reconsider this action and to put aside partisan politics in service of preserving our Constitutional republic.”

____________

Yeah, that’s gonna happen… 🙄

I hope this whole message was intended as political theater, as opposed to a revelation of Vivek’s cluelessness.

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Tonawanda

I am going with theatre. He is playing along with a narrative.

RDS

Why is it that every time Yours Truly sees this man’s name, it brings the word “SMARMY” to mind?

Gail Combs

Because it is an apt description?

RDS

Probably.
This guy takes himself seriously, lol.

Aubergine

You can put a fork in Ron, he’s done. For sure.

TheseTruths

Rep. Jim Jordan:

God Bless President Trump. Real America knows this is all a sham.

TheseTruths

Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance:

I’ve been asked by multiple reporters if an indictment would lead me to rescind my endorsement of Donald Trump. The answer is: hell no. A politically motivated prosecution makes the argument for Trump stronger. We simply don’t have a real country if justice depends on politics.

Aubergine

That’s my guy! I love J.D.

kalbokalbs

EVERY R-Con, should be sounding off as JD did. Kari did. Mostly crickets. Telling.

Aubergine

Yes.

phoenixrising

Putin as troll master.

https://twitter.com/upholdr

para59r

If you still have the tweet up, might want to copy and paste. The account has been taken down.

@upholdr
This account doesn’t exist
Try searching for another.

phoenixrising

phoenixrising

Para, not sure what happened, but I think link above is for someone in USA

This acc’t is in Russia it appears

TheseTruths

New York Young Republican Club Planning Protest if Trump is Arrested

Gavin Wax, president of the NYYRC, tweeted that they have a peaceful protest in the works.

The @NYYRC is planning to organize a peaceful protest downtown. Stay tuned.

— Gavin Mario Wax https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/svg/1f1fa-1f1f8.svg https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/14.0.0/svg/1f5fd.svg (@GavinWax) March 18, 2023

GA/FL

from commenter at CTH…

sunrei March 18, 2023 2:27 pm

You mistunderstand me. I am not hearing a call for violence. 
I am recognizing that even if 100% of Trump supporters are 100% peaceful that false flag operations have already been planned and are just awaiting the arrival of entirely peaceful protesters.
There will be violent false flag events, that will be blamed on us deplorables and heavily covered by the mainstream media , It will be J6 rinse/repeat except at a much greater scale. 
>>>>This is not about how peaceful we would be. Guaranteed that the false flag operations have already been rehearsed and are just awaiting the arrival of peaceful protesters.

YEP – IT WOULD BE ANOTHER JANUARY 6.

phoenixrising

Patrick Henry is turning in his grave. (Not our PHC, but you know, the ‘Give me liberty or … guy)

This ol’ woman stood on the street corner of this little ‘city’ with a group of young people protesting masks some months back (a year?) for several weeks in a row…

I don’t think my city’s LE forces are going to take anyone to jail. The Nazty Nancy and Pence did J6 to scare the American people, and … it seems to have worked.

The KKK burned a cross in my front yard and threatened to expose the biological mother of our adopted infant child because I exposed a local Gyn-Ob for sterilizing a multitude of women on Medicaid immediately after birth of their child and then tossing them out of the hospital … back in the 70s … I didn’t get re-elected, and my spouse lost his business… but … I stood … and this will probably get me doxxed … but … I’m really old and I only care about my family and my country … half of family has been vaxxed … most don’t speak to me … but … I still tell them my opinion … and my neighbors agree with me … as do the hardworking guys who cut the underbrush in my woods, the ones who fix my plumbing, the guy who helps with my dwindling gardening efforts… the caregiver I have hired to start things going …

Aubergine

Just stay home. STRIKE.

They can’t do anything to us for doing NOTHING. That includes working, shopping, traveling, and eating out.

TheseTruths

BIG MISTAKE: GOP Presidential Hopeful and Florida Governor DeSantis Remains Silent on Latest Democrat Assault on President Trump – This Will Not Play Well with Trump’s Base

DeSantis was silent about the illegal Mar-a-Lago raid by the corrupt DOJ. Many believe he knew about the raid ahead of time. He might have known about this garbage indictment announced yesterday for some time as well.

But rather than stand up to this obvious tyrannical and fascist injustice, DeSantis remains silent.  This is a very poor political move. 

DeSantis appears to be run by the GOP elites who hate President Trump because he wants policies that are America first. At least this is the message that is perceived by Trump supporters.

Now DeSantis remains silent at a time when our corrupt and criminal DOJ, which is quickly becoming the equivalent of the injustice departments of fascists in the past, attempts to arrest the President of the United States, Donald Trump, on literally made-up crimes.

DeSantis’s inactions will be his doom. His hopes for President are fading quickly and he hasn’t even announced.

Americans want just leaders, not followers of big-money elites. 

This is a strong opinion by Joe Hoft, but he has a point.

IMO, whatever happens with DeSantis on this matter, he has taken too long to respond. This seems to be a pattern with him when it comes to Trump. It’s as if he has to weigh everything politically before taking a stand, even when the right thing is clear to fair-minded people, including Alan Dershowitz and Jonathan Turley.

phoenixrising

Guess y’all think Neocon tools are restricted to pay-offs/bribes and blackmail threats? They also include threats to your family … CIA is famous for dropping off a photo of one’s spouse, child/children … parent… on the seat of one’s car etc.

What one sees is never one dimensional … yet there is judgment.

My gr/grandmother once told me when I was a teenager … don’t believe anything you hear, and only half of what you see…

And she was referring to basically gossip and rumors and party-line telephone conversations, and … well you know. And she was preaching this long before TV Fake News, ‘programmed’ entertainment . Her daily source of ‘truth’ was Paul Harvey and his ‘The Rest of the Story’ …

Not defending RDS here, just suggesting we don’t know all the story … in fact, we ‘know’ very little about anything these days.

TheseTruths

The idea being that DeSantis might be under threats of danger to himself and his family? It’s easy to sit behind a computer and judge, but IMO, if someone is being threatened and continually goes along, he becomes owned by really bad people.

TheseTruths

For a governor to be owned by someone to the point he has to do their bidding, and for that man to also be contemplating running for president, would be a disaster for our country.

scott467

That’s Ron Desanty!

cthulhu

Is that anything like a Senator and Vice President being owned by someone overseas to the point he has to do their bidding?

scott467

“They also include threats to your family … CIA is famous for dropping off a photo of one’s spouse, child/children … parent… on the seat of one’s car etc.”

______________

That should never work with public figures.

All they have to do is go PUBLIC with the threats, showing the public what kind of criminals their opponents are, and it backfires on their opponents.

I’m beginning to wonder if the entire political-class isn’t controlled by the Mexican drug cartels, no different than the Mexican political-class.

phoenixrising

USG controls the Mexican drug cartels … creations of the CIA …

Mexican President has applied for membership in BRICs … that’s what is going on here…

kalbokalbs

We’ll know for sure by Tuesday.

DeSantis at his political peril, IF he sits on his hands, silently.

scott467

“DeSantis at his political peril, IF he sits on his hands, silently.”

___________

He’s in peril either way 😂

If he does support Trump, he will be abandoned by the billionaire puppet-masters and establishment, and instead, become their target. At that point, his future will depend on Trump winning.

If he doesn’t support Trump, he is abandoned by MAGA patriots everywhere, and his future in politics is over anyway.

Think hard, Ronnie…

WSB

Let us call by the millions on Monday! Pass this around!

Office of Governor Ron DeSantis State of Florida The Capitol 400 S. Monroe St. Tallahassee, FL 32399-0001 (850) 488-7146 

GA/FL

OUR MAN TRUMP….

TheseTruths

Nice!

TheseTruths

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phoenixrising

Are those ‘Obomber’ sox he’s wearin’ ?

TheseTruths

In the style of Canadian Twinkle Socks…

phoenixrising

LOL!

TheseTruths

No way! That’s Fauci’s raccoon dog, fer shure!

phoenixrising
phoenixrising

just found this … poster at Andrei’s blog says the following about the vehicles in video above:
———————————-

Those are vehicles for removing the dead and wounded.

If they were near Bakhmut, they would be filled with soldiers and shanghaied men and boys.

They can’t move forward to the front because they have no troops.

Maybe they will rig them with VIEDs and then all they need is a driver in each one.
Of course, they are on solid roadway in the video. All roads are controlled by Wagner and artillery fire.

They will have to drive on muddy dirt roads. Sitting ducks.

Either way, this is a funeral procession, Ukie style.”

Gail Combs

That sure looks like the USA to me.

Dora

The woman is a moron!
..

Maxine Waters Torches Trump on MSNBC For ‘Trying To ‘Organize Domestic Terrorists’ To Protest Arrest
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Maxine Waters Torches Trump on MSNBC For ‘Trying To ‘Organize Domestic Terrorists’ To Protest Arrest (mediaite.com)

scott467

Max Waters is a criminal, projecting her own criminality on an innocent man.

She’s criminal trash.

GA/FL

The ‘arrest’ won’t go down with President Trump being taken out of Mar A Lago in handcuffs.

It is more likely that President Trump and his attorney/s will show up for an arraignment and post bail, prepare to go to court – and fight like heck against the stupid leftist corrupt NY State attorney general’s office.

Right?

scott467

We’ll see.

It might be better to make the criminal political-class arrest him and take him out of Mar a Lago.

To not make it easy for the enemy.

Make the enemy show the whole world who they are.

Make the police and FIB who choose to participate in the arrest do so in shame.

We the People and DJT have the moral high ground.

We can (and should) stand in the light, and demand that the darkness walk into the light, exposing themselves in the process, if they want to arrest DJT.

Brave and Free

Spot on Scott

RedLegLeader68

Ah … has anyone wondered, or asked about PDJT’s Secret Service Detail and where they fit into this? They’re not allowed to put him in danger … just sayin” … 😉

scott467

Being part of the government, unfortunately I am unable to have any confidence in the Secret Service.

Gail Combs

I am thinking the reason POTUS Trump will not release the JFK files is because Secret Service was in on killing JFK. It certainly looked like his driver may have taken one of the shots that killed JFK.

kalbokalbs

Interesting. Had never heard the SS driver took a round. Hmmm.

Gail Combs

It was in one of the videos, I think it was on Badlands Baseless Conspiracies

RAC

Didn’t stop one, theory was he turned round and fired one.

kalbokalbs

Wow! Stunned at the concept.

RAC

Ages ago there was a video that purported to show it, didn’t seem 100% convincing, to me anyway.

Aubergine

I think you are right. That would do it. It hadn’t even occurred to me.

litenmaus

From an earlier post by phoenixrising….

Washington Post –
Secret Service officials were caught by surprise on Saturday morning by Trump’s post predicting a Tuesday arrest, according to a person with knowledge of the discussions who was granted anonymity to discuss sensitive planning. During discussions on Friday in preparation for Trump’s possible indictment in New York, Secret Service leaders expected that Trump’s legal team would immediately notify them when his lawyers heard about any planned indictment.

The Secret Service officials also expect that the district attorney’s office would negotiate terms under which Trump could voluntarily turn himself in. The lawyers have provided no such notification, according to the person familiar with the Secret Service planning.

AfternoonRedLegLeader, I have an aversion to the WashingtonPost & I have an even stronger aversion to their articles citing unnamed sources…that being said..If the Secret Service were clueless, it’s a pretty big indicator that President Trump is playing political chess in order to shut down the continuous Lawfare that’s being waged against him.

kalbokalbs

Wondering. Did SS know about the MarA Lago raid in advance, or just before it happened?

litenmaus

I have wondered the same kalbo….

TheseTruths

it’s a pretty big indicator that President Trump is playing political chess in order to shut down the continuous Lawfare that’s being waged against him.

This.

GA/FL

This is corruption exemplified…

para59r

Wasn’t sure where to put this one. This seems like a good spot.

EXCLUSIVE: MANHATTAN DA SENDS OUT EMAIL TO STAFF REGARDING TRUMP ARRESTMANHATTAN DA LIES TO EMPLOYEES BY SAYING HE APPLIES THE RULE OF “LAW EVENLY AND FAIRLY.”

https://breannamorello.substack.com/p/exclusive-manhattan-da-sends-out

After winding through his short piece dissembling Bragg, he ends it like thisFor the longest time I’ve been warning everyone about what’s actually happening here. Democrats are emptying the prisons so they can make space for their political opposition.”

Sadie Slays

March 22, the day after President Trump’s scheduled arrest, is Skull & Bones Day. Maybe the reason why this Trump arrest stuff came out of literally nowhere is because they have another Fedsurrection planned for Wednesday. An unusual number of terrorist attacks have happened on 3/22 since 2016.

2022 – Shooter drill at Uvalde high school
2021 – Mass shooting in Boulder, CO kills 10
2017 – Islamic terrorist attack in London
2016 – Islamic terrorist attack in Brussels
 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_22

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Brave and Free

Good catch SS

Sadie Slays

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phoenixrising

via ZH

UBS Seeks Government Backstop As It Rushes To Finalize Credit Suisse Takeover Deal As Soon As Tonight
If a deal is not struck, Monday markets would be rocked by a global banking crisis.

So much can change in just 48 hours.

Late on Thursday, just hours after the SNB had launched the first (of many) bailout attempts of Swiss banking giant Credit Suisse, Bloomberg blasted the following headline:

  • *UBS, CREDIT SUISSE SAID TO OPPOSE IDEA OF A FORCED COMBINATION

This lack of enthusiasm by UBS to acquire its struggling rival of course forced the Swiss National Bank to front CS a CHF50 billion credit line to hold it over for the next four days amid a furious bank run, one which we said would be woefully insufficient to restore confidence in the collapsing lender, and which we probably used up in just a few hours.
Then, late on Friday, both banks “unexpectedly” changed their minds and we got the following 180 degree U-Turn report from the FT:

  • *UBS IN TALKS TO ACQUIRE ALL OR PART OF CREDIT SUISSE: FT

So a deal is inevitable after all… but as always, there is a footnote one which we predicted yesterday when we said that a deal would only happen if the acquiring bank – in this case UBS – got a full central bank backstop.

more https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/ubs-seeks-government-backstop-it-rushes-finalize-credit-suisse-takeover-deal-soon-tonight

phoenixrising

Ah. So UBS isn’t buying credit Suisse, the government is giving it to them and giving them a ton of money on top of the free gift.

another bit of news:

https://www.zerohedge.com/personal-finance/rogoff-warns-things-are-only-getting-harder-fed

Last edited 1 year ago by phoenixrising
TheseTruths

Yikes!

scott467

This seems more direct, in case DJT’s last message wasn’t clear enough.

From OT:

President Trump, “They Are Killing Our Nation” … “We Must Save America!”…
March 18, 2023

“No modern American person has ever been under such a brutal assault as President Donald J Trump has endured over the past several years. The mechanisms of the worst elements of a corrupt and corroded global government, and every rotten and weaponized institution within it, has exclusively targeted Donald Trump.

Yet, he remains standing – empowered by something larger and more unexplainable than any force we comprehend.

Those words are not arbitrarily chosen, they are the reality of our situation and not an intellectually honest friend or foe would dispute them.

No one has withstood more unilaterally focused assault as we have seen upon President Trump. Yet he remains standing, impervious and still swinging for the fences, in every effort. It is one of the most remarkable things to see and experience in history.”

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“PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST!!!”

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scott467

Since “sit back & watch” time is apparently over, how shall we protest?

It’s not like we’ve been warming up or preparing for this moment over the past 2+ years.

Instead, we’ve been admonished to do NOTHING that would give the enemy an excuse.

So if this is a call to action, there better be someone giving instructions.

I’ve never seen a protest movement lead ITSELF before.

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phoenixrising

Letters to editor of local newspapers… my late Dad wrote one a day during his last years … he passed in 2011

Attend School Board Meetings/ check out the textbooks the students are using …

Almost all colleges and universities allow anyone over 62 to audit classes for free (no credit) … sit in and hear what profs are saying; checkout bookstores for textbooks required for students … don’t have to buy ’em, just thumb thru, and ask questions … talk with students (listen to what profs are saying) complain to administration wrt profs and lectures

Seek info on local hospitals and their activity during COVID …

Call into Talk Shows …

Attend local civic groups luncheons, meetings

Ask for time on agenda of City/County Council Meetings

Get a few friends together and ask for a meeting with your Gov. , at least get one of the Aides to meet with you.

Speak to folks in the supermarket, brief remarks about inflation (I do it all the time; watch the lightbulbs go on…

Write up one sheet white papers … pass them out at group meetings; parking lots

Act like you are running for office and think what you would do, and do it!

I’ve heard people on this and ‘sister’ forums speak about being quiet around friends, co-workers … WHY??? SPEAK! Same with family …

Be creative … BE VOCAL

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scott467

I hear these kinds of ideas frequently, but I don’t understand what they accomplish.

And without understanding what they accomplish, I don’t understand why anyone would do them.

I do understand that there are many people who believe in them, but I don’t know why. It’s like a leap of faith with no reason for the leap.

If all 8 billion people on the planet wrote a letter to the editor, it would not change a single thing that the criminals are doing, because they don’t CARE what the people think.

This seems (to me) to be the fundamental break with reality that the ‘grass roots’ movement either can’t or won’t address.

The criminal establishment crossed the Rubicon. They can never ‘go back’, because if they give up power now, like Hitlery said, they’ll all wear nooses.

So they do not give a flying *&^% about people calling in to talk shows, or writing letter campaigns, or attending city council meetings.

In fact, if they’re smart, they HOPE people will do those things, because when it has ZERO effect, it will demoralize the people who do it, and that demoralization costs the criminals nothing, it’s demoralization we did to ourselves, for free.

Sometimes, I think it’s a matter of the way women and men think differently.

I want to take action, but I don’t want to take action just for the sake of taking action.

I want to take action that has a meaningful IMPACT, action that has a logical and rational potential for the desired RESULT.

I can’t see — literally — how there will be any desired RESULT from the kinds of actions listed above.

And until I can make that connection in a CONCRETE manner, it’s like telling me to go east to go west.

The people who suggest the approaches above don’t understand why they don’t make any sense to people like myself.

I don’t know how to solve that problem.

This is not the first time in history that a population has been faced with tyranny.

It’s not even the hundredth time, or the thousandth time.

I am aware of ZERO times, in the history of mankind, that a letter writing campaign, or going on talk shows, or any of the other suggestions above, has ever resulted in the desired outcome.

And when I say ever, I mean ever.

And it is because of this knowledge, that I don’t believe doing so this time will be any different.

Now it could be that I’m wrong, I’m not a history expert.

If anyone knows of a single time in all of recorded human history, where doing the things in the list above accomplished the overthrow and removal of tyranny, I am all ears.

I want to believe.

But if there is not a single example — and if it works, there should be LOTS of examples — then it won’t work THIS time either.

We have finite resources, and a finite amount of time.

I would humbly suggest we concentrate our efforts on something that has the potential to achieve the desired objective.

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TheseTruths

I was about to say the same. A number of the actions we can take will have secondary influences. The more people who wake up, the better.

scott467

“The more people who wake up, the better.”

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No doubt, but there are only so many people who are willing to wake up.

Lots of people have no interest or desire in waking up, because the last thing in the world they want is to live in a world where Trump, you and me are actually right, and they and all their Leftist idiocy is wrong.

We have a better chance of convincing a muslim to leave islam and convert to Christianity.

Can it happen?

Sure, you can maybe get 2 or 3% if you spend enough time and effort, and it’s a worthy effort.

But if we are counting on a significant percentage of people to ‘wake up’ to something they don’t WANT to ‘wake up’ to, then we need a better plan.

A lot better.

We’re not going to ‘wake up’ most hardcore Leftists, or even softcore Leftists, because they don’t want to live in a normal, freak-free Constitutional Republic with Donald Trump as POTUS.

So once as many people are ‘awakened’ who are gong to wake up, then what?

Suppose we meet every imaginable precondition, from here to eternity.

What causes the tyrants to actually surrender or otherwise be removed from power?

scott467

Okay, suppose we influence every last, single person on the planet in the best and most desirable way possible.

Then what?

What is it that actually causes the tyrants to vacate their positions of power, which effectively would mean turning themselves in, to stand trial, for crimes against humanity?

Is there a tipping point, where if enough people (for example, 7.5 billion out of 8 billion) are influenced in the proper way, through letters to the editor and such, that TPTB say “Well lookie there, I guess the people are not happy with our tyranny, so I guess we had best leave and surrender”?

Is that what the objective is?

Is that what we’re waiting for, or is there something else missing from the equation?

Aubergine

GENERAL STRIKE.

Gail Combs

I hand out hand printed index cards with URLs.
I try to stay NEUTRAL with the hopes people will look at the stuff and possibly get educated.

Money Is Created by Banks – Evidence Given by Graham Towers, Governor of the Central Bank of Canada

The Magic of Fractional Banking. ( In essence it is counterfeiting.)

A PRIMER ON MONEY – COMMITTEE ON BANKING AND CURRENCY WRIGHT PATMAN (D) Chairman 1964
Who Runs the World ? – Network Analysis Reveals ‘Super Entity’ of Global Corporate Control (Now think of the World Economic Forum…)

1970s origin of Depopulation and de-industrialization of the USA.

National Security Study Memorandum NSSM 200

The 1974 CIA Report: A Study of Climatological Research as it Pertains to Intelligence Problems

THE ROCKEFELLER COMMISSION REPORT

scott467

Suppose we reach all 8 billion people on the planet, and they all appreciate our neutrality, and they all go to the URL, and they all educate themselves, and all 8 billion people on the planet unite in common cause.

Then what?

Tyranny is not going to just be overcome by our happy thoughts. Or is it? Is that how it works? Because I really don’t know, I don’t understand how we get from everyone on the planet being ‘awakened’ and the criminals surrendering.

There is a missing step in there somewhere, and I’m pretty sure it’s a BIG one.

Nothing changes by magic. It’s not the dawning of the age of Aquarius, where tyrants lay down their arms and join the People in a giant circle of peace and singing Kumbaya.

It hurts my head so much, it frustrates me to tears, that I am unable to communicate what appears to be so obvious, and yet clearly is not.

Gail Combs

You QUIT period.

You stay home.

WHAT YOU DO NOT DO IS PROTEST. They are just LOOKING for an excuse to ditch the 2nd Amendment like they did in Australia.

kalbokalbs

At the ready, here.

scott467

“WHAT YOU DO NOT DO IS PROTEST.”

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Okay, but DJT just said “PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST!!!”, and in common usage, “protest” doesn’t generally mean stay home and do nothing.

It certainly CAN, and a national ‘strike’ of some kind might be a good starting place, but “protest” more commonly means showing up somewhere and voicing one’s displeasure.

If DJT meant something OTHER than that, he sure better be a lot more specific, because I would guess 90+ percent of the general public interprets “PROTEST, PROTEST, PROTEST!!!” as the opposite of staying home and doing nothing.

Gail Combs

You will be happy to hear, my neighbors are getting in a lot of firearm practice. I can hear them right now.

kalbokalbs

As am I.   :wpds_lol: 

Valerie Curren

Have you put all these links on one of your appropriate posts? or perhaps copied this comment into the comment section on one of those posts? Seems like a good place to save such info 🙂 TY

para59r

This lends itself to the old and well practiced taboo against bringing up politics and religion at the dinner table. Personally thinks this was an early strike at not allowing people express themselves. Something akin to wearing masks or closing bars and other places of meeting during the pandemic. Yes it can get out of hand and spoil a nice dinner, but what better way to learn to express oneself and test and refine ideas. Besides, such topics are well suited for when the dinner is winding down. Stifle speech and folk will seek to be excused early. Allow it and desert could be more fun. When it does get out of hand, well that’s when chores can be assigned.

kalbokalbs

Yea. Failure here, at NOT discussing politics or whatever, when with family, friends, acquaintance Dinner or whatever setting.

Barb Meier

I may have missed this here yesterday, but it bears repeating.

  • A top Catholic archbishop has issued a warning about the “immense threat” that globalism and woke ideology pose to the future of civilization.
  • Italian Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, one of the most powerful leaders in the Catholic Church, issued the warning during a speech at the Founding Congress of the International Movement of Russophiles (MIR) this week.
  • During his address, Viganò specifically named radical billionaire George Soros, World Economic Forum (WEF) chairman Klaus Schwab, and Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates.
  • Viganò also accuses the WEF and its allies of “electoral fraud of 2020” to block President Donald Trump from being re-elected.

https://www.offthepress.com/archbishop-warns-wef-globalists-are-staging-global-coup-detat/

kalbokalbs

The mental midgets in DC, BiteMe, Hoe, Blinken, Milley, Idi Amin, Ms Lindsey yammer about taking on Chinne, over Taiwan.

  • BiteMe’s budget apparently cuts the Navy AND Navy is worried about Climate Change. Dumbasses.

Biden Aims To Shrink The Navy While The Secretary Of The Navy Focuses On Climate Change
https://www.oann.com/newsroom/biden-aims-to-shrink-the-navy-while-the-secretary-of-the-navy-focuses-on-climate-change/

Charlie

There must be a good reason for Wolf’s pull back. If it was mentioned in an earlier post I’m sorry, I missed it. Miss you Wolf.

kalbokalbs

Wolf announced, a month or two ago, he’d have various times, various durations (days to weeks) to complete “honey do” stuff. “Things were coming together”. And MeThinks, perhaps groundless surmising, vacation of sorts. He did check in a couple times briefly a week or two ago. I think someone posted, his most recent post was 6 March. .

para59r

A couple weeks ago, maybe as many as three, Wolf put up a post about not being here for a long period but for possibly a few peeks in. The reasons given were still a bit mirky, but he lent it to cyclic personal reasons that this year he was going to have devot his time to such and thus the scheduled absence. ((oops sees now this will be something of a repeat… kalbokalbs answer should suffice.

On a separate note and not related to your question, but general to all, for the longest time the only post on top I saw was Sadie’s post. After hitting refresh twenty more posts popped up that apparently should of been there but were not. Normally I don’t hit refresh and posts just load on their own. I assume the reason they did not has to do with the number of posts? Anyway… sometimes I guess we have to hit refresh or we’ll think every one is gone.

Valerie Curren

Here’s the post he did mentioning his absences fyi

https://www.theqtree.com/2023/03/01/wandering-wolf/

para59r

Not really a small thing. Likely a win on the world stage though I’m sure the Bidenese could care less, unless it was stopped, then I’m sure they’d take the opportunity to make hey out of it.

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/18/1164538947/russia-ukraine-grain-deal-extended

Turkey and Ukraine say the agreement with Russia to allow grain exports from Ukrainian ports through a safe corridor in the Black Sea has been extended.

The duration of the extension remained uncertain on Saturday, but it will be at least 60 days. Ukraine and Turkey say the extension will be 120 days, but a spokeswoman for Russia’s foreign ministry told Russian news agency Tass that Moscow had agreed to extend the deal 60 days.

“As a result of our talks with the two sides, we have secured an extension to the deal,” Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said.

The agreement was brokered by the United Nations and Turkey last July in an effort to combat a global food crisis. It was extended in November for 120 days and set to expire Saturday.

As the expiration date loomed, Russia made clear that it was only ready to extend the deal until May 18. Turkey’s foreign minister, Mevlut Cavusoglu, said his country would make efforts to extend the deal beyond two months.

The deal allows Ukraine, one of the world’s most important suppliers of grain, to ship grain, related foodstuffs and fertilizer from three Black Sea ports through a maritime humanitarian corridor.

Twenty-five million metric tons of grain and foodstuffs have been exported to 45 countries thanks to the deal, “helping to bring down global food prices and stabilizing the markets,” according Stéphane Dujarric, a spokesperson for the U.N. secretary-general.

The deal is “critical for global food security, especially for developing countries,” Dujarric said.

TheseTruths

Well said, Catturd.

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Aubergine

Very well said.

TheseTruths

I especially like the last sentence.

phoenixrising

Don’t know how I missed posting this … or maybe I did, and forgot 😉

Anyway ZH posted it on Friday …

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/macgregor-gathering-storm

TheseTruths

Kari Lake’s statement:

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kalbokalbs

There is a Vivek post or two below.

Either way, this IS worth a listen.

BTW, where the hell are ALL of the other R-Cons.

Tonawanda

It seems I am in the minority, but I have a favorable impression of this guy. His appearances on Tucker in particular have made a good impression.

Maybe my impression is totally off base, would not be the first time. But I am willing to give him a chance.

kalbokalbs

For whatever reason, today, was new to me. Yea. His statement is spot on. I’ll be on the lookout for him in the future.