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Since the Fake News refuses to cover any good news out of the Trump Admin, I thought I would do a rough transcript of this Sean Hannity interview of Kash Patel. I was pleasantly surprised by Sean’s knowledge and interview style. Since it is two hours I am going to do it as a 2 part series.
In this episode of Hang Out with Sean Hannity, FBI Director Kash Patel details the massive shift in Bureau operations since taking the helm. Patel breaks down the staggering 112% increase in violent crime arrests and the strategic dismantling of 1,800 localized street gangs. But the mission doesn’t stop on the streets; it extends to the very halls of the FBI headquarters. Patel reveals the discovery of a “secret room” containing unburnt bags of evidence and hard drives that point toward what he describes as a “Grand Conspiracy” to weaponize law enforcement against political opponents. From the “Russiagate” origins to the modern-day “Arctic Frost” and “Plasma Echo” investigations, this is the definitive account of how the FBI is being restored to its former greatness. Director Patel further explains the truth about the 40,000 violent criminals arrested in 2025 and how the FBI is using AI to stop school massacres and terrorist plots. He also provides updates on “Operation Not Forgotten” in [American] Indian Country and why the “Grand Conspiracy” investigation has no statute of limitations.
00:00 – 05:15: The New FBI Mandate: Crushing Crime
05:15 – 10:30: 40,000 Arrests: The 112% Surge Explained
10:30 – 17:45: Operation Gangster Paradise: Wiping Out 1,800 Gangs
17:45 – 22:00: Protecting Indian Country: Operation Not Forgotten
22:00 – 30:45: Fighting China: Stopping the Purchase of U.S. Farmland
30:45 – 38:20: The Secret FBI Room: Burn Bags & Hidden Evidence
38:20 – 45:00: Defining the Grand Conspiracy & Weaponization
45:00 – 58:30: The FISA Fraud: How the Spying Began — TO BE CONTINUED
58:30 – 01:10:00: Modernizing the Bureau: AI vs. Terrorist Threats
01:10:00 – 01:25:30: Stopping Foreign Scam Centers & Fentanyl
01:25:30 – 01:49:00: Investigating Arctic Frost & Plasma Echo
Kash Patel
When President Trump appointed me to be the FBI director, he said, “Kash, you got a mandate to do two things. Crush violent crime and defend the homeland and also level the institution that has become the weaponization of law enforcement in this country.” … The FBI agents have come to me time and time again and said, “We have been waiting 15 to 20 years to be able to do our job on the streets of America, and they’re doing it cuz President Trump gave us the authority to do it.” The win here is not just holding these people accountable. The win here is making sure that the FBI, DOJ, and the entire government are never able to do this again to anyone else.
Sean Hannity:
…..it’s hard to fathom that in the last four years under Biden, Harris, Mayorkas , that they allowed in over 12 million un-vetted illegal immigrants from over 200 countries, many with terror ties. We have known terrorists in the country, murderers, rapists, child molesters, cartel members, gang members, and other violent criminals. And this is the mess on top of the corruption that Donald Trump inherited and handed off to the guy that’s hanging out with us today, our FBI director, Kash Patel.
Mayorkas has also been lauded online in places like the Fed News subreddit for his generous granting of administrative leave to DHS employees around the holidays. His affinity for giving extra time off to staff has even led some to jokingly dub him the “Patron Saint of Admin Leave.”
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I guess when you do not want the border protected you can hand out leave like candy. 😡
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Sean Hannity: … I got to introduce you to President Trump. Do you remember?
….I just want to freeze frame what you inherited. Okay. Just illegal immigration alone. I understand a lot of it falls under the purview of DHS, Tom Homan, who I admire a lot. They’ve done a great job. Known terrorists, murderers, rapists, child molesters, other violent criminals, cartel members, gang members. …and then everybody’s screaming, “Where’s the JFK files?”
Kash Patel: …When President Trump appointed me to be the FBI director, he said, “Kash, you got a mandate to do two things. crush violent crime and defend the homeland and also level the institution that has become the weaponization of law enforcement in this country. We’ll get to the second part later. When it comes to crime in this country, President Trump secured the border. He had the audacity to do it and he did it. Then he came back in and said, “We’ve had four years of open border. We’ve got criminals running around this country.” And I know we rifle off statistics all the time, but if your audience takes away nothing else from this show, then it’s the following. Because behind statistics are real people.
Sean Hannity: Highlight that, I don’t want to interrupt. Behind statistics are real people. That is like Laken Riley’s family, Rachel Morin’s family, Jocelyn Nungaray’s family. Democrats wouldn’t stand for them and honor them at that joint session
Kash Patel: ….In 2025, in one year under President Trump’s leadership, this FBI arrested 40,000 violent criminals. That’s not the total arrest the FBI had. That number is closer to 80,000. But the 40,000 violent criminals we arrested,was 112% increase from 2024.
….Break that down by state. 50 states. You do the math. We’re talking murderers, rapists, pedophiles, gangbangers, terrorists, everybody that wants to harm our way of life. That President Trump stood up and ran on and said, “We are going to crush violent crime.” That’s what we did. That number alone is emblematic of two things. One, President Trump is the absolute most successful president in US history in reducing crime in the history of America. And two, why are there so many violent criminals in the United States of America? …The open borders policy and the lax rules laid out by the opponents of President Trump to be pro- crime. Remember these are the defund the blue movement people…
Sean Hannity: …In four years, they got four of the FBI’s 10 most wanted under Biden. You’ve been in office a year when you eventually got sworn in. ..14 months. [And you got] Eight of the 10 on the FBI most wanted list. That is an insane number. …In some cases, fugitives that have been on the run 70 years.
In DC, where the president put a surge of police instead of defund, you have motor vehicle theft down 56%, homicides down 52%, robbery down 23%, burglary down 21%. That should be a big story,
Kash Patel: Especially in our nation’s capital. What President Trump did was to bring in the inter agency and unlock the FBI’s greatest partners, state and local law enforcement authorities. And he went into DC and he said, “Not in the nation’s capital.” We also did it in cities across America, whether it’s Memphis or Miami or Dallas or San Francisco or LA. But DC with the president’s backing and with the backing of local law enforcement there, we were able to completely annihilate violent crime in the nation’s capital… If President Kamala Harris had done this, it would be the only story that the mainstream media would be talking about.
Here’s the theme that I think has been leveled by the mainstream media against President Trump. He did everything they wanted done. It’s just that he did it so they’re pissed off at him. He shattered violent crime. He safeguarded American communities. We got eight of the top 10 most wanted… We went around the world and found these animals … guys that have been on the run for 60, 70 plus years in total and put them in American prisons. You can’t do that unless you have a commander-in-chief that says law enforcement is supreme and law enforcement is going to be supreme across the country because that’s what Americans voted for in record numbers when they put President Trump back in office.
Sean Hannity: So, besides myself, have many other media outlets cover this? Outside of Fox?
Kash Patel: And they won’t touch it because President Trump did it.
Sean Hannity: I’m going to put up another screen. Operation Gangster Paradise. 30 pre-dawn raids, 30 alleged members of the Mexican mafia in Southern California. You’ve also gone after the hate groups that go after synagogues and target specific groups. Tell us about that.
Kash Patel: So, two things, Sean. When I got to the FBI, I said, What is the one thing that is causing crime across the country, not just the influx of illegal criminals and violent actors from everywhere in the world? It was localized street gangs. And I’ve never talked about this because you simply can’t on a three minute show at night. Localized street gangs that were supported. And I’m not talking TDA and MS-13. We’re handling that, too. Localized street gangs in LA, in Miami, in Denver, in New York, in Chicago. Do you know how many gangs, street gangs we dismantled last year? 1,800 localized street gangs have been eliminated from the streets of America through Operations Gangster Paradise, Operation Viper, and other things that we do. 1,800. That number, Sean, is a 20% increase from 2024. When you wipe out not just the head shed [Command Post], the overseas components, the TDAs of the world, the MS-13s of the world, and you go down to the root level in the streets of LA and elsewhere and wipe them out as we did in Philadelphia. I was there on the ground. We literally took out an entire city block in West Philadelphia of a localized street gang. And they’re all in prison. They’re the ones dealing dope. They’re the ones getting illegal firearms. They’re the ones holding up everyday Americans as hostage and stealing their money and jacking their cars.
That was a power that had not been unleashed. And this is what happens when you let good cops be cops. The FBI agents have come to me time and time again and said, “We have been waiting 15 to 20 years to be able to do our job on the streets of America.” And they’re doing it because President Trump gave us the authority to do it.
Sean Hannity: Maybe this is a good moment to pause and get into this whole ideology philosophy. It’s being pushed by the left. Defund, dismantle, no bail, re-imagine the police. That’s some of the dumbest stuff I’ve ever heard in my life.
Kash Patel: I mean, just look at the tragedies of this cashless bail policy. Every month we read about some violent offender who gets bail on a violent crime and goes out and does what? Murders a young American, deals fentanyl to young school children and they overdose and die. And that had never been highlighted except by President Trump. He is turning every democratic weaponized institution of justice on its head and challenging them to say, “Why are you passing these laws that are leading to the aimless deaths of young Americans?” He’s the one centering the focus point on law enforcement.
We have to have state and local legislators fix that problem. President Trump can’t do it at the federal level, but what we can do is make sure we roll these guys up, which we’re doing in record numbers, and put them behind federal bars so they don’t ever get out.
..You’re talking to a kid, this son of parents who fled a genocidal dictatorship in East Africa. Immigrated here lawfully and watched their son become the director of the FBI. That is the American dream. But it’s not about me. It’s about capturing that lightning in a bottle and handing that American dream to every single kid out there. That’s what President Trump’s driving…
Sean Hannity: Every weekend you can predict with pinpoint certainty in Chicago how many people will be shot. How many people will be shot and killed. I’ve asked Democrat after Democrat on my shows, can you name one person shot in your city? They can’t name one because they can’t weaponize it and use it to bludgeon Donald Trump or use it politically. I thought every life mattered?
Kash Patel: Let’s just look at Chicago for a second, Sean. How many times does a kid under the age of 10 have to be shot, caught in the cross-hairs of gang fire, before they’ll do anything? How many stories of that, double-digit stories from just last year alone, — that if it had happened under any other administration would be the only headline — saying why is law enforcement failing its citizen, its most vulnerable citizens? But they wash over it because it’s President Trump . And this FBI even without Chicago’s help, Sean, we’ve reduced violent crime in Chicago by 25 points. By 25 points. We’re doing it anyway. And if they let us in like they did in DC, like they did in Memphis under the president’s task force, those numbers would be doubled. We’d be saving twice as many lives.
Sean Hannity: It really is amazing. Explain, and I’ll put this up on the screen, the 400 FBI agents that are dedicated to [American] Indian country. Three brand new task forces that you put together. That was a big deal that didn’t get any press.
Kash Patel: I’m so glad you brought this up. This is one of my passion projects. I think everybody in the United States of America deserves the same brand of law enforcement. Our 575 dedicated Indian tribes across the land deserve the same brand of justice. If you go onto any reservation, and I’ve been on more reservations as FBI director than anyone before me combined, and you talk about missing kids, you talk about murders, you talk about unsolved violent crimes, they are plagued by it. Just last week, I was in Montana on the Crow Reservation. It’s the size of Rhode Island and Connecticut combined. They got five cops. Five cops. And so what we’re doing is we did a durational program last summer called Operation Not Forgotten. We just launched Operation Steadfast Promise, which is going to dedicate 400 plus agents and intel analysts across Indian country for the entire year. We solved, I think, 2,000 cases on Indian country last year alone. I want that number doubled this year. We’re going to solve the mysteries behind the gruesome murder of the Emily Pikes of the world. We’re not going to forget Indian country. And I’m so glad you brought it up because this is representative of millions of people across the country who think they’ve been forgotten by law enforcement, but when I go and see them, they say, “President Trump’s the first guy to send law enforcement here and show up and ask for a partnership, and we’re going to continue that.”
Sean Hannity: … Dan Bongino sat in that seat and told me that there are two FBIs . A lot of people had to go and a lot of people were working against both of you but then there were other good agents that wanted to do their job. More importantly there seems to be a systemic targeting of pro-life Americans, peaceful protesters or moms and dads that show up at school board meetings .They just care about the curriculum that is being taught their kids and they were being investigated as domestic terrorists.
Kash Patel: This is the best example I can see right now to highlight the transformation of this FBI. …All the FBI did before Donald Trump and I was grow the size of the Washington DC footprint. When I came into office, one third of the entire FBI workforce was located in the national capital region in and around Washington DC. The prior directors and presidents, they loaded Washington DC for bear so that they could put out things like the Catholic memo. They could go to school board meetings and terrorize parents. Threaten them, their way of life and have the audacity to tell them it’s the government and not the parents who know how your child should be educated and brought up.
What did we do? I said a third of the crime doesn’t happen in the national capital region. We’re putting the mission first in the field. I took a thousand FBI agents out of the National Capital Region last year and permanently moved them across all 50 states. On top of that, I took 500 intel analysts, took them out of the Washington DC. The directorate of intelligence that we had seen built up by my predecessors to sat in Washington and produce quote unquote intelligence? And I said, I don’t need that weaponization. What I need is intelligence to drive operations in the field. And I sent hundreds of intelligence analysts permanently to the field along with support staff. Then I took another 500 FBI employees and moved them down to Redstone Arsenal, [ Alabama] our premier advanced law enforcement training facility. I said, “Go train everyday cops from around the country on how to be better partners ‘cuz they want us and we want them.” So I reduced the footprint in Washington DC. This is maybe the biggest transformational change that President Trump asked for and we delivered on. And I shrank that one-third footprint in DC by half.
Sean Hannity: You have Operation Fighting China. I have read about Chinese nationals buying up massive quantities of American farmland, American ranch land, and land near our military installations. Now, I can’t imagine for one second that President Xi is going to allow Sean Hannity to go in and buy land near their military installations. Why would we ever do that?
Kash Patel: So, there’s two things you highlight. One, there needs to be a congressional legislative fix ‘cuz right now the only prohibition is one mile in and around military installations in America. So, we got creative. We said, “Okay, while Congress works to fix that, while we work with them to fix that, what can the FBI do?” So, we called our state & local partners. I’ll give you two examples. Down in Louisiana, they were buying up oil rigs off the coast of Louisiana, but it was outside that one mile zone. So, I called Governor Landry and I said, “Hey, this is illegal under state law. The FBI is going to help you.” You know what he did? Shut down those oil rigs. In Texas, a Chinese national had bought thousands of acres of farmland in Texas and was traveling back and forth between China. He had direct contacts and connections to the Chinese government, the CCP. We couldn’t get him under the current law because it was outside of a mile. So, what did we do? We found out that he had been stock piling illegal firearms on his ranch. We went in and seized every single firearm and the entirety of that ranch and he’s still sitting in China because they won’t give him back to us. But now we own it and the US government has it. So we’re doing things like that.
Sean Hannity: Common sense would dictate that if this is happening over and over again that this has got to be some subversive plot by the communist Chinese. They’re doing it for a reason. They are, as far as I’m concerned, our number one geopolitical foe. Why do they want ranch land, farmland and land near our military installation if they’re not trying to spy on us?
Kash Patel: Sean, that’s just it. That’s what they’re doing. If you look back at the last year, this FBI has arrested 47% more Chinese espionage actors to include people that they have co-opted in every branch of the United States military. We are indicting and arresting at least multiple people a month for stealing secrets providing classified information back to mainland China and we are imprisoning them including US Navy sailors. You saw we just charged the individual in Delta Force. And it’s not just connected to China, but it’s also Russia and other entities as well. But that’s how they get their tentacles across the US government enterprise. And so what we’re doing is seeking out those bad actors wherever they are, including within the United States government.
Sean Hannity: I mean, that to me is one of the scariest things. And now we’re talking about national security. I don’t think China has our best interest at heart. I think they view us as an enemy. I think they’ve proven it over and over again. Look, if President Xi’s for China first, I get it. Putin’s for Russia first. I get it. I’m for America first. Fine. However, they don’t get to come into America. They would never allow Americans to do to them what we’re allowing them to do to us. And I’m not saying that every person from China is bad. I’m just saying that maybe you need to buy your property a little further away from military installations. And why farmland? Why ranch land?
Kash Patel: Because it allows them to get large swaths of property, import material and equipment and also use that equipment to go spy on our military bases, our fixed wing and rotary aircraft and our personnel. But let me put out something that’s unorthodox that was led by President Trump. Protecting national security is of the utmost importance. and we’re doing that against these bad actors and spies.
President Trump in his historic meeting with President Xi in Busan S.Korea last year said we have to engage where we can and law enforcement has a unique opportunity to do that. The fentanyl precursors coming out of mainland China were the ones that were killing tens of thousands of young Americans. So he kicked the door open. You know what I did? I was the first FBI director in over a decade to go to Beijing last year. And under President Trump’s authority, in agreement with President Xi, we shut off all 17 illicit precursors that were being delivered to the Mexican drug nationals down in Mexico and then shipped up here. That is a huge win because we worked with the MPS, which is the Ministry of Public Security, their equivalent of the FBI. And since that time, in this law enforcement space, we have sent working groups to China. They have set working groups here and we are tackling money laundering, scam center compounds, which I’m sure we’re going to talk about, the fentanyl and counter narcotics crisis. For the first time ever in the history of the FBI, there is a daily communication between our agents and their agents in mainland China because President Trump kicked open the door.
Now, like you said, their spy services are doing unimaginable harm to our national security. We’re on that mission. But where we can work with them because of President Trump, we are working with them and we’ve seen a drastic reduction in the production of fentanyl by the Mexican drug trafficking organizations down south. We see it in the intel. It’s not classified.
Sean Hannity: Haven’t they been sending the raw ingredients to Mexico?
Kash Patel: That’s what they were doing. And there’s very specific ingredients that make fentanyl as lethal as it is. Those were shut off thanks to President Trump and our engagement. So now they’re struggling to find the ingredients. How do we know it’s working? Last year alone, the opioid overdose rate, the death rate in America dropped 20 points. If any president had done just that alone, save 20% more kids, it would be banner news year round.
Sean Hannity: This is the most frustrating thing to me because it’s our national treasure and they’re being targeted by these cheap street drugs and they have no idea what they’re taking and they’re dying in droves. The deaths now are coming down.
…This should be a big story that, hey, law and order works. Safety and security works if you put the resources in place. They don’t want to talk about that part of it.
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…I’ve got to imagine within a week you realize you’re drowning because of what you inherited. Known terrorists in the country. We still know there are terrorists here, but we don’t know where they are.
Kash Patel: That’s the scary part. We’re looking for them every single day because the last administration, as you highlighted, let in criminals by the thousands, violent criminals, to include terrorists, and they’ve been sitting around and embedding themselves in our country for the last four years. And as we know from the al-Qaeda and ISIS of the worlds, the one thing those folks have is patience.
Sean Hannity: But they came from Egypt, Muslim Brotherhood. People from Iran were let into this country and let loose by Biden, Harris, Mayorkas. I mean, is it really far-fetched in the middle of a war with Iran to think that we have sleeper cells in this country?
Kash Patel: That’s what we’re monitoring 24/7, 365. We’re going into communities. We’re using our undercover resources. We’re using our online covert employees to root these folks out. And that’s why you’re seeing terrorist prosecutions skyrocket in terms of numbers and people we are expelling from the country with our partners in DHS. I think President Trump has struck the right tone. If you are a violent criminal actor, violent, the worst of the worst, then we’re going to put you down here. We’re going to arrest you. We’re going to put you down. Everybody else, if you’re here illegally and committing crimes, we’re going to send you back to where you came from. That two-fold parallel approach is securing America and safeguarding America. And this FBI continues to have the responsibility with our intelligence community partners to make sure that all the sleeper cells are rooted out.
Sean Hannity: Okay. You walk in the door, get confirmed by the Senate. You get to the the infamous Seventh floor. What did you look at? When did you realize, “Wow, this place is a mess.” When did it dawn on you how bad it was?
Kash Patel: I knew before getting in there. I think the worst thing that could have happened to the institution of weaponization, and the mainstream media, is the combination of President Trump and myself running the law enforcement of this country. Because, as you said, 10 years ago, I led the charge to expose the Russia Gate conspiracy.
Sean Hannity: I need you to go back and explain that to people because you worked on the House Intel Committee and I love Devon Nunes. He’s been a friend for a long time. I spent years of my life on TV night after night after night.
Kash Patel: You were one of a few.
Sean Hannity: Me, John Solomon, Sarah Carter, Greg Jarrett. I mean, there was a small group of us. Catherine Herridge there was not a lot of us. We ended up being vindicated. However, you were on the inside and Devon got vindicated and that congenital liar Adam Schiff was not. So, let’s go back to the main point. You walk in the door, you already know things are bad. You know you have work to do in foundationally within the bureau. You had to feel like you’re drowning, did you not? I would have felt that way.
Kash Patel: You can have that feeling and at times I certainly did. But what you can’t have happen, once you become the FBI director, is allow it to actually drown you. And so what we did, let’s hit the reset button, and what we put out and proved through facts in 2016, 2017, 2018. It took me two years of my life to prove the following:
That a political party in the United States of America in the 21st century would go overseas and hire some bogus intelligence asset to manufacture fraudulent, fake, unverified information, funnel that to not just the intelligence community, but the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and then take those packaged lies, that they had paid for with campaign finance funds, and go into a secret surveillance court and illegally spy on your opponent to be the president of the United States.
That took two years of my life. And what do we find out? The FISA court themselves came back and said these warrants were illegal. That the FBI did not provide exculpatory evidence and innocence and that the FBI essentially lied in those applications and all the information was unverified. So that was step one.
But I knew that it didn’t stop there. I knew in the four years that we were out of office that they continued to regenerate that institution of weaponization. So when I walked in the door, I said we only got a bit of it. We only got maybe half of it. Because what did we learn in those four years, right? That I was illegally spied on by the likes of Rod Rosenstein and Chris Wray.
Sean Hannity: And me.
Kash Patel: And you and 10 other staffers on the hill and people who were elected to serve this country in the halls of Congress.
They were actually continuing the weaponization that Donald Trump and I had exposed during Trump one and we caught them. So I knew walking in the door the following: These individuals, these purported leaders of law enforcement and government are so arrogant that they write the stuff down themselves to memorialize how great they are. That’s how we caught them in Russia Gate. It wasn’t my documents. It was their emails. It was their FISA application. It was their bogus Steele dossier. It was their unverified reporting that was documented in FBI holdings that we put out and that you covered. So I knew there were other places that information was hidden. So day one I set out to find it and we found it.
Sean Hannity: Dan said something that blew me away when he was sitting in your chair on this show, but I want to go back ‘cuz some people didn’t go this deep in the weeds as we did. So we can start with Hillary Clinton’s top secret classified information on her servers. Which by the way I’m — I keep hearing rumors. Maybe you can confirm that information may still exist and we may have a copy. Any truth to that?
Kash Patel: We’re working on a lot of things.
Sean Hannity: You’re smiling. I don’t know. I like that smile. The smile is very revealing, Kash. All right. We’ll save that for a different show.
But let’s go back. And then of course the infamous July 2016 presser by James Comey. No reasonable prosecutor would prosecute.
Kash Patel: Can I just stop you right there?
Sean Hannity: Go.
Kash Patel: The mandate of the FBI and the director is to investigate. It is illegal per the constitution for any FBI director to make a decision on prosecutions. That is the sole province of the department of justice and the attorney general. The fact that he held that press conference and unilaterally made that decision by his own admission without informing the attorney general is a bastardization of our version of law enforcement. He did it because he knew the mainstream media would help him get away with it.
Sean Hannity: So, I’m gonna get your thoughts on Comey and Wray in a few minutes, but I want to stay focused on this. So, he exonerates Hillary that way. And then what do we discover? Hillary Clinton. The reason this is important is because you have said publicly you’re investigating a grand conspiracy.
Would you define a grand conspiracy as the minute Donald Trump came down the escalator till today?
Kash Patel: Yeah.
Sean Hannity: That there has been a coordinated effort to destroy this man.
Kash Patel: Yes, there has. And it’s not me saying it. Look at the documents. Just flip the tables, Sean. Let’s say President Trump unleashed his FBI to go and illegally surveil his opponents. What would happen? The media cycle would stop. It would be the only thing that the mainstream media [would cover. They] would be screaming for accountability. But because President Trump’s the one, that delivered a record reduction in law enforcement under this FBI, because it was him, who was attacked unlawfully and his surrogates and his campaign, they cover it up.
So, I learned as a lead investigator on House Intel that it’s not my words that are the best evidence, it’s theirs. Go find the documents. So what we did was when we walked in the door, I said, “Hey, this conspiracy continued.” It didn’t end because the documents we released under the House Intel days showed that there were individuals who are continuing the work of the Steel Dossier. And I said, “These documents, computer hard drives have to exist somewhere.” And this is a part that’s frustrating to me too. People are are saying, rightfully so, where’s the accountability? Where are the arrest? We are undoing 30 years of weaponization. We are doing that while delivering record results on crime reduction in America. And we’ve got to get it right. So we found that room that Dan Bongino talks about the burn room.
Sean Hannity: Explain a burn bag.
Kash Patel: It’s basically a large paper bag that you use to destroy and literally shred and burn classified information. So we not only found burn bags in a room that was locked away and they weren’t burned, but the room was also off the map. It wasn’t on our blueprint, and nobody had access to it.
Sean Hannity: So, how’d you find it?
Kash Patel: Well, that’s what we do. That’s what I do. I know that these people put it in places for us to never find, but I also know what Dan talked about, and you talked about. There are a lot of good people at the FBI. Now, we got rid of a lot of bad people since Trump
Sean Hannity: What percentage is gone?
Kash Patel: Every single one of the people that weaponized law enforcement is gone. who identify them, threw them out, and they’re terminated.
Sean Hannity: Okay. So Dan’s theory, and I’d love to get your thoughts on it, was he believes that people purposely saved this information, left little crumbs in a trail like Little Red Riding Hood, [It’s actually Hansel and Gretel.] wanting you to find it. That it was saved by design, by good people, special agents, you know, the rank and file good guys that want to do good. You believe that?
Kash Patel: I think there’s a lot of truth to that because I think the rank and file wanted the FBI to be restored to what it used to be before the weaponization of law enforcement. And so what we have to do is methodically catalog this stuff. We’re triaging computer hard drives from previous directors and deputies. We’re looking at the totality of information. We’re finding jurisdiction. And by the way, I’m not looking at it in one jurisdiction. I’ve launched this investigation in multiple jurisdictions. And I can tell you that ‘cuz I got the permission of the attorney general to tell you that. And I can tell you the following too because it’s of such importance. Russia Gate 1.0, they did it again and we found them. We found the documents.
Sean Hannity: … I want to get to the bottom of it still. We’ve all been vindicated at different times, be it the Mueller report or the Durham report or whatever came out. We were right and the rest of the legacy media mob was wrong. Adam Schiff is a congenital liar. Sue me, Adam. He’s a congenital liar.
So we started with the Comey, that press conference. Here’s where things get very interesting. This becomes, I think, the beginning of this grand conspiracy that continues. And I want you to explain it, not me. Start with Hillary Clinton’s bought and paid for dirty Russian disinformation dossier. She uses money. They hire Fusion GPS. Fusion GPS hires Christopher Steele. He has a series of documents that he puts together. They’re all complete bull shit in the end, but that becomes the dossier. Okay?
Kash Patel: And the media was in on it. Remember, they use circular reporting. They leaked that information to the media. Remember then deputy director Andy McCabe, who’s constantly on TV talking about the integrity of the FBI. As deputy director of the FBI, he impermissibly and without permission leaked information about the Hillary Clinton investigation to the media.
Then on top of that, when he was investigated by the Department of Justice, he lied to them. So, I’m not going to be taking any lectures on ethics and how to run the FBI from a then deputy director who abused his position to continue the weaponization of justice. And we’re looking at that. And the scheme you just laid out, is the exact same scheme they replicated when Donald Trump decided to run again. And that’s the investigation I’m tying everything to.
Sean Hannity: I would argue there may be three, but we’ll get to that. Let’s go in chronological order. So they knew, even Brennan knew, the dossier was political hack and he was warning the administration at the time. That’s Obama. That she’s putting together this dossier on Donald Trump. Bruce Ohr, a little interesting his wife worked for Fusion GPS, put it together. Didn’t he warn that it was political and shouldn’t be trusted in August of 2016?
Kash Patel: John Brennan and Bruce Ohr? They all knew it was bogus. I mean, just think about this, Sean. take a step back. The then director of the CIA, the then associate deputy attorney general of the Department of Justice for the United States of America along with other bad actors that we’ve identified, including the media and fusion GPS got together and continued that narrative anyway because then President Obama said, “We have to be able to say” What? — the one thing that they needed, to be able to say, to take a wrecking ball to President Trump’s presidency, before he even got in the door — That there was Russian collusion.
Sean Hannity: So now take it a step further. That becomes the basis of not one but four FISA warrants even though it was unverified and unverifiable because it wasn’t true.
Kash Patel: And when we first informed the FISA court of that when I was working on House Intel, they wrote us a letter back and said, “You guys are dead wrong.” Fast forward
Sean Hannity: The FISA court wrote that to you ? I didn’t know that.
Kash Patel: And fast forward later on in our investigation, the FISA court would quietly put out an opinion themselves stating that we are rescinding — I don’t think that’s ever happened before — We are rescinding the FISA warrants that were used to illegally surveil President Trump.
[REMEMBER BOASBERG: Chief Judge Boasberg served a seven-year term on the United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court beginning in May 2014. Appointed by Chief Justice John Roberts, he was the Court’s Presiding Judge from January 2020 to May 2021. LINK ]
Sean Hannity: When was this?
Kash Patel: This was about a year after investigation was completed. Probably 2018.
Sean Hannity: Okay. So by that time the year of spying was over. Carter Page’s life was ruined and they had a back door to the Trump campaign in Trump world.
Kash Patel: Yeah. Many lives. [ruined]
Sean Hannity: You can’t even write this in a spy novel…
We’re going to go in a little bit deeper. Of the four FISA applications, ‘cuz they have to get renewed every 3 months, three of the four of them were signed by James Comey. He signed the first three. And [Deputy AG] Rod Rosenstein, I think signed the fourth one.
Kash Patel: So FISAs have to be signed by two people. On the Department of Justice side, the attorney general, or the deputy attorney general. And on the FBI side, either the director of the FBI, or the deputy director of the FBI.
Sean Hannity: Now, when you fast forward a couple of years later and Lindsey Graham was doing the questioning and everyone that signed those FISA warrants was asked, “Knowing what you know now, would you sign the FISA warrant?” Every one of them said, “Oh, no. Not knowing what I know now.” Here’s the problem I have with that.
Kash Patel: Hang on. Let me hit pause on that for a second. Knowing what you know now. Why didn’t they bother to figure it out then? Why didn’t the FBI under Comey. And why didn’t the FBI and DOJ under Rosenstein and company and McCabe and all those people bother to do the verification work? They didn’t want to do it because they knew if they did it, they would find the same thing we proved, which it was completely bogus.
Sean Hannity: And what was “you” is the House Intel Committee, Devon Nunes, you were his lead guy and and that’s when I first got to really know you.
Well, here’s the interesting part because I went back and Greg Jarrett actually walked me through the statute. The FISA statute actually says that if at any point information — now again it was unverified and unverifiable — If at any point you find out information you presented to a FISA court is not true, you have an obligation at that moment to go back to the court. So they’re telling, a Senate committee, knowing what I know now, I wouldn’t have signed that warrant. However, why didn’t they go back? They did not follow the statute of the law. How did they not get held accountable for that?
Kash Patel: Well, that’s what we are literally in the process of doing right now. That’s what I’m saying. I want accountability yesterday and the American people deserve it. But to peel back. To get to that point. To be able to have the FBI and DOJ do that in the 21st century of the United States of America, it takes decades of layering on and creating this diseased temple of corruption. We exposed it. That’s step one, right? And then I can’t speak to why folks in previous administrations didn’t do that. I wasn’t in the job that I am in now. But that’s what we’re doing now. And that’s why President Trump and we, me and you are the targets because they know the truth. So they are breathlessly going on TV and radio every single day and just making personal attacks.
Note what they’re not doing, Sean. They’re not attacking the FBI for reducing the murder rate by 20 points. They’re not attacking the FBI.
Sean Hannity: How could they attack that anyway?
Kash Patel: They’re not. And this stat, I’ve never released before. Again, we say stats, and some of my team doesn’t love it when I use stats because it’s a quick hit, but there’s people behind these stats. State by state, this FBI has reduced violent crime in every single state by an average of 10 percentage points.
Sean Hannity: So, so there’s another part to this. After the 2016 election, in spite of the dirty dossier, FISA warrants, the lying, the break that Comey gave Hillary Clinton to keep her in the race. Obviously, he had a dog in that race. He wanted Hillary to win. Then we have senior career intelligence officials. They do an assessment, an ICA, it’s called, after the 2016 election. They determined beyond any doubt Russia played no part in the election. That was senior career intelligence guys, from the Obama administration.
In a meeting in the Oval Office in December after that assessment came out. It had, correct me if I’m wrong, Obama, Biden, I believe Brennan was there, Clapper was there, you know, all the players are in there. Obama, according to reports, if you know more, please tell me, says he doesn’t like that assessment, demands another one. They get another assessment. It contradicts the senior career intelligence assessment. So at that point then, they get the assessment that said, “Oh, Russia did interfere.” Is that not the predicate to set up Donald Trump for his first term? Russia, Russia, Russia, which went on for years and you were a big part of investigating it.
Kash Patel: That’s it. You summed it up perfectly. That’s what happened.
Sean Hannity: Explain what that setup means?
TO BE CONTINUED NEXT WEEK