2023·06·10 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

Joining The Herd Of Lemmings

I’ve had cause to consider a few things. Maybe we’re going about it the wrong way, and we need to ditch Trump

Yeah, NO

Trump all the way! Why? Because being hated by the people who hate him is a sign of impeccable character, that’s why.

The haters can go fuck themselves with rusty twelve gauge bore brushes. I’d prefer ten gauge but that’s kind of scarce, so…I’m willing to compromise.

The RINO’s Dilemma

The RINOs who who have burrowed in and taken over most GOP organizations, from the state down to local organizations, have quite a dilemma on their hands, and most of them have their heads too far up their asses to realize it.

OK, I’m not talking about the liberal in a Republican area, who knows they’re in the wrong party, but is there because it’s the only game in their town; they hope to capture a nomination someday, at which point they’re guaranteed to be elected…otherwise, they never will be. These people are a hazard in any heavily conservative area.

No, I’m talking about the guys who are a little bit conservative and want to do some good by going into politics, and they’re in a closely matched area, closely enough that they can join the party they are most aligned with and still have a chance. They think the Democrats…particularly the ones who end up running for office…are nuts.

They don’t think much better of the Deplorable types, either. A bunch of bumpkins whose hearts are in the right place, mostly…OK a bit extreme. But they think Deplorables can’t understand that first you have to get elected, then work within the system to change things…a slow process. They genuinely want many of the things Deplorables want…just not as much. The government is spending too much. Or they need to spend money on highways instead of welfare for illegal immigrants. But they want to work within the system to get these things done.

Or maybe they think things are pretty close to ideal right now, and they want to nail it in place.

The problem is, that means they don’t stand for anything in particular. And it shows. They’re about as unappetizing to the electorate as a puddle of dog vomit. The folks in the middle, who they think they are appealing to because they themselves are not extreme, would honestly prefer a clear-spoken radical to someone who qualifies everything they say to the point where they sound like they don’t believe anything at all.

The problem these “Mild RINOs” have, is they just can’t see that. And the reason they just can’t see that, is their entire sense of self-worth is tied up in not seeing that. In their minds, they’ve worked tirelessly for their party, to keep those crazy Democrats out…only to have to constantly fight with a small number of crazy Republicans–who are only liabilities if they end up as candidates. They’ve fought the good fight, and if they can just find the right candidate, someone with some charisma, they might stop the crazies…without being too beholden to the OTHER crazies. In the meantime it’s not working. What’s a responsible guy in politics to do?

They simply cannot understand that the Republicans can’t succeed as the party of nothing in particular. Not really in the past, and certainly not today when people are starting to realize that no matter what they do in the voting booth, the country is still about to fly off a precipice. If they did see it, they’d suddenly have two choices: Go away and let the GOP succeed, or stay and fight. But “go away” isn’t really an option, because what’s the point of having a party now owned by the crazies, win?

Well, they have a dilemma…and WE, therefore have a problem. And we would have that problem even IF they realized that they had a problem…that they were the problem.

No one ever thinks they are the bad guy. Even Epstein probably thought he was the good guy. Right up to the moment where he didn’t kill himself.

So if you ever wonder why these unappetizing dufuses cling on even when their fingernails are being left behind…that’s why. They don’t understand no one wants them, and can’t imagine that no one should want them. And oftentimes their greatest pride is in all the hard work they’ve done for the party. They’re not going to give that up; it’d be psychological suicide.

If you’ve worked with these people, there’s a good chance you like them and consider some of them your friends. But even if so…we’re going to have to give them a good, hard shove. Because America is more important than those milquetoasts’ egos.

Justice Must Be Done

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

Spot (i.e., paper) Prices

Last week:

Gold $1,948.50
Silver $23.68
Platinum $1,015.00
Palladium $1,459.00
Rhodium $7,450.00

This week, 3PM Mountain Time, markets have closed for the weekend.

Gold $1,961.70
Silver $24.38
Platinum $1,018.00
Palladium $1,356.00
Rhodium $7,100.00

Silver up a decent amount. Gold a bit less so (and it went down a few bucks on Friday). Palladium and rhodium continue to slide which either means, someone is finally mining the stuff and meeting the demand, or…the economy is in a world of hurt. (The problem is they tend to piggyback on platinum mining, and no one is bothering with platinum because it’s been a glut on the market for years.)

Arbitrary Powers

No, this is not political, even though our would-be overlords are exercising arbitrary powers.

The last two posts on e and π have probably bent a few minds as people read them. I talked about some pretty wacky arithmetic…and it is arithmetic. Some few people here might not know what fractional and negative powers mean, or that they can even exist, so I’m going to take a break and bring ’em up to speed. Then I’ll bring in the Taylor series.

It seems like it would be a bit tricky multiplying an irrational number by itself, or even by some other irrational number. If it’s a rational number, even a repeating decimal, you can do the multiplication with fractions (where you get an exact answer), then if necessary convert to a decimal. But when the number doesn’t end as a decimal and can’t be represented as a fraction what do you do? You can just take it out to about twice as many digits as you need, do the multiplication, then throw away the digits you don’t need….only some of them at the end were wrong anyway. But that’s not really satisfying to mathematicians (engineers settle for it, because this is the real world and computers can only go so far for rendering numbers–there is a whole branch of mathematics devoted to estimating the errors in approximations).

And especially in the post on e, I talked about raising numbers to fractional powers. OK…at first blush, that is just plain screwy. e you might have a grip on. e2…well you multiply e x e. And e15…well it’s a lot of work and even the most sadistic math teacher wouldn’t expect that done longhand, but you just multiply 1.0 times e, then repeat..a total of fifteen times. But what in the heck does it mean to raise e to the 2.4th power? e2.4 is 1.0 times e…2.4 times. But multiplication is a single operation, you can’t do 4/10ths of a multiplication. It’s either done or it’s not done. And that’s not because e is irrational and transcendental, you have the same issue with 2x.

A similar question arises when someone talks about raising a number to a negative power…what does it mean to multiply 1 by xnegative three times? That one’s a bit easier, and I’ll give you a hint up front…division is the opposite of multiplication. Read on for the answer.

Yet with all these questions about what powers other than 1, 2, 3, etc. mean, you see a nice smooth graph of ex, like this one, with values drawn in between the integer powers:

You’ll note that the line goes through x=1, x=2 and so forth as if it’s meaningful to raise e to any power…fractions, compound numbers, irrational numbers, transcendental numbers, you-name-it. How do we know that line is smooth between e1 and e2, e2 and e3, and so forth, instead of jiggling all over the place in some wacky way that only just has to cross through the integer powers?

Well, it seems fairly intuitive that e2.5, whatever the heck it means, should be somewhere between e2 and e3. And that e2.25 really ought to be somewhere between e2 and e2.5. Follow that one far enough and you have a plausible argument that whatever that line should do, it should climb the whole way between e squared and e cubed, and not jiggle around. That’s not a solid proof, but a fairly strong suggestion. And of course that still leaves the possibility of the line being straight or even convex upward between the knowable, sensible points.

But we can actually go there, in a much more rigorous way–and the graph has it right. Nice smooth curve.

Consider what it means to raise some number, like, say, two, to an integer power…like, say, ten. In other words, 210. That;s simply 2·2·2·2·2·2·2·2·2·2 = 1024 (and that’s where You-Know-Who’s fraction of Indian (feather, not dot) ancestry comes from).

What happens if you multiply 24 by 23? Let’s see…that’s 2·2·2·2 multiplied by 2·2·2…which is to say, 2·2·2·2·2·2·2 or 27. And 7 happens to be 4 + 3. That’s not a coincidence. Provided you’re working from the same base, here 2 in both cases, (rather than doing 24 times 35, where they are different) you simply add the exponents. That’s a quick shortcut in algebra, where you might have to multiply x4 by x3. You just write x7. (But if you’re faced with x4 multiplied by y3, you’re stuck with x4y3.)

You can similarly divide by subtracting exponents, because dividing is the opposite of multiplying, and subtracting is the opposite of addition. So: x4/ x3 is x4-3 = x1 = x. Or written out, x·x·x·x/x·x·x. The three xs on the bottom cancel out three xs on top leaving you with x. And if the latter number is bigger than the first number, you end up with a negative power. That means more xs on the bottom, and (if you’re dealing with x3-4, you end up with x–1 = 1/x.

So a negative power is just the reciprocal of the same positive power. Thus x-3 is 1/x3, etc.

And you now know that any number raised to the zeroth power is 1. In other words, x0 = 1, no matter what x is. Don’t believe me? Do some algebra. Divide x2 by x2 to get 1, then do the same thing by subtracting the exponents.

OK, now for the next trick. There is a number–let’s call it s, which, when you square it, gives you 2. So s2 is 2. Or, s·s = 2. Or strictly speaking, s·s = 21. But we’ve already seen that you can get a number, raised to a power, by raising that number to other powers and adding the powers. So, you could figure s is two raised to some power, and multiply them together, like this 2p·2p=21. So what is p then? What is the one number, which when added to itself equals one? That’s ½.

So we have: 2½·2½=21.

Of course, s, which is equal to 2½, is simply the square root of 2. So…raising a number to the 1/2 power gives you its square root. And raising a number to its 1/3 power is the same as taking its cube root. And so on. That means to take the nth root of a number…you can divide the exponent, whatever it is, by n. The cube root of some number, x, is symbolized by first writing x as x1, so that it has an exponent…then dividing the exponent by 3.

So do you want to know what 22.4 is? Now we can figure it out. It’s 22 x 21/5 x 21/5 because 2.4 = 2+1/5+1/5. Or you can treat it as 212/5. To compute that, multiply 1 by 2…repeating 11 times for a total of 12 multiplications. Then take the fifth root.

No, I am not suggesting you do this, but at least now you can see what a calculator might be doing behind the scenes when you enter 2, then xy, then 2.4.

How about raising the power of some number, to yet another number? Like, say, raising 2 to the third power, then raising that to the fourth power? In other words, (23)4? Well, let’s see, that would be (23)·(23)·(23)·(23) which we already know you can figure out by adding 3+3+3+3 to get 212. But it’s also multiplying 3 by 4 to get 12. So when you raise a power to another power, you multiply the two exponents. (And again the base…the number you’re raising…has to match–in this case it will match.)

I said a couple of paragraphs ago that your calculator might be raising a number to a power, then taking some root of it, to compute a fractional power. But it’s probably not. Taking some weird root of a number is hard. (It’s easier using certain tricks, but still…) There is instead something called the Taylor Series. And unfortunately, deriving it requires calculus, but it can be used for any “infinitely differentiable” (i.e., “smooth-curve”) function.

You use it to approximate the value of some function that might be otherwise very hard to compute. Just run it out as far as you like; eventually you’ll see your answer isn’t changing enough to change the last digit on the calculator’s display, and you stop. (That’s called “converging on the value.”)

Here’s the full Taylor series. Don’t worry too much about it; it’s about to get much simpler.

{\displaystyle f(a)+{\frac {f'(a)}{1!}}(x-a)+{\frac {f''(a)}{2!}}(x-a)^{2}+{\frac {f'''(a)}{3!}}(x-a)^{3}+\cdots ,}

(For calculus geeks and the brave: A is some number you want to start from; most of the time that just gets set to zero and when you do that, it’s called the Maclaurin series. The fs with all the tick marks are derivatives of the function f. And the ! notation means to multiply a number by all the smaller numbers, so 6! is 6x5x4x3x2x1=720.)

As I said, you can use any smooth function here. And it just so happens that raising a positive number to the power x gives you a smooth function. So we can use the Taylor/Maclaurin series.

If that number you’re raising happens to be e then it gets very simple. The Taylor series for ex simplifies as follows if a=0…because the derivatives of ex are all themselves ex. So you’re taking ex of zero…over and over again. But that’s just one. And with a equals zero all of those (x-a)s become simply x. So you’re left with:

{\displaystyle {\begin{aligned}\sum _{n=0}^{\infty }{\frac {x^{n}}{n!}}&={\frac {x^{0}}{0!}}+{\frac {x^{1}}{1!}}+{\frac {x^{2}}{2!}}+{\frac {x^{3}}{3!}}+{\frac {x^{4}}{4!}}+{\frac {x^{5}}{5!}}+\cdots \\&=1+x+{\frac {x^{2}}{2}}+{\frac {x^{3}}{6}}+{\frac {x^{4}}{24}}+{\frac {x^{5}}{120}}+\cdots .\end{aligned}}}

(Sorry if you don’t know calculus…you can take my word for it…or dig, somewhere. If you can’t dig, ask other people who know calculus to confirm I’m not just some guy on the internet bullshitting you…rather, I’m just some guy on the internet actually giving you the straight dope. Will miracles never cease?)

Notice One Very Cool Thing: You’re computing ex without actually using the number e. And you’re doing it without having to take some weird root of the number for a fractional case. And x can be a fraction, a compound number, the square root of 2, some negative version of any of these…you name it! It’s all multiplication, division, and addition. You just have to keep going until it converges. Which, granted, might be a long time.

Yes, it’s a lot of arithmetic…but arithmetic is what calculators do.

I just set this up in a spreadsheet. Each term is simply x/n times the previous term, then you add them all up. So if I raise e1, it converges on 2.718281828 after twelve steps (and you’re just adding 1+1+1/2+1/6+1/24+1/120…). So you can compute e this way, as far out as you like. However, if I raise e10, it takes 35 steps to converge on 22,026.46579. The farther away from zero you get, the longer it will take to converge. Your calculator would probably take some shortcuts; I could guess what they are (and bore you, if I haven’t already) and probably be wrong anyway.

OK, well that’s bloody nice, you might be saying. But what if I want to raise some other number to a fractional exponent? Like, say, ten? Surely ten is a more useful base than friggin’ e is! So….just for an example, what’s 103.7?

This series can help you do that!

There is some number, call it q, that if you raise e to that power, you get 10. In other words, eq=10. Or in yet other words, q is the natural logarithm of 10, q = ln(10). (Apparently ln was chosen as the symbol for this by the French…or some other language that would want to put “natural” after “logarithm.”)

[Logarithms deserve their own post…and they’re not going to get one, at least not in this little miniseries. Suffice it to say you can figure out what two numbers multiplied together is…by adding their logarithms. Calculators probably use them a lot, too, inside and behind the scenes.]

How does that help us? Well, your original problem, “what’s 103.7?” is equivalent to “what’s (eq)3.7? But we already know that that is the same as: eq·3.7. Remember how you multiply exponents, to take the exponent of an exponent? And we know how to raise e to any power; use the series!

You just need to know what the natural log of your desired base is. And your desired base can be anything…a fraction, an irrational number…you name it, as long as you can get there by raising e to some notional power, you can use it. You just need to know what that notional power actually is.

Well, guess what, there’s a Taylor series for that too, a series for ln(x). I’m not going to hit you with that, though, because it won’t matter down the road. Suffice it to say natural logs are readily obtainable…naturally.

OK…so where are we?

We went from wondering how the heck you can raise numbers to negative and fractional values, and wondering how to raise an irrational, even transcendental, number like e to a power…to realizing that fractional and negative powers actually do mean something, and being able to raise e to any fractional or negative value without even having to use the number e to do it, using nothing but multiplication, division and addition. Pretty slick. And going from there to being able to raise any real number to any real power.

You might not be impressed but your calculator loves it.

Fuck Joe B*d*n

Due to complaints about foul language, I’ve censored the most objectionable word in the title of this section.

B*d*n, you don’t even get ONE scoop of ice cream today.

(Please post this somewhere permanent, as it will continue to be true; the SOB will never deserve a scoop.)

Obligatory PSAs and Reminders

China is Lower than Whale Shit

Remember Hong Kong!!!

中国是个混蛋 !!!
Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!!
China is asshoe !!!

China is in the White House

Since Wednesday, January 20 at Noon EST, the bought-and-paid for His Fraudulency Joseph Biden has been in the White House. It’s as good as having China in the Oval Office.

Joe Biden is Asshoe

China is in the White House, because Joe Biden is in the White House, and Joe Biden is identically equal to China. China is Asshoe. Therefore, Joe Biden is Asshoe.

But of course the much more important thing to realize:

Joe Biden Didn’t Win

乔*拜登没赢 !!!
Qiáo Bài dēng méi yíng !!!
Joe Biden didn’t win !!!

Dear MAGA: 20230604 Open Topic

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It’s also a place to read, post, and discuss news that is worth knowing and sharing. Please post links to any news stories that you use as sources or quote from.

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On this day and every day –

God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up


Hopefully, every Sunday, we can find something here that will build us up a little . . . give us a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.

“This day is holy to the Lord your God;
do not mourn nor weep.” . . .
“Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet,
and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared;
for this day is holy to our Lord.
Do not sorrow,
for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”


Be Holy For I Am Holy

Perhaps better than any other chapter in the Bible, Leviticus 19 explains what it meant for Israel to live as a holy nation. Through Moses, God spoke to the people, saying, “Be holy because I, the LORD your God, am holy” (Leviticus 19:2). Both the Old and the New Testament stress the importance of developing personal holiness in our lives as believers: “But just as he who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do; for it is written: ‘Be holy, because I am holy’” (1 Peter 1:15–16).

In Hebrew, the words translated “holy” and “holiness” have to do with being “set apart,” “separate,” “different,” or “dedicated.” The absolute moral purity of God’s character sets Him apart, making Him different from every other living creature. Yet He calls His people to be holy as He is holy. Humans generally think of holiness as obeying God’s law. But, for God, holiness is not a mere action or a set of behaviors. Holiness is His essence. God is morally and ethically perfect by nature. So how can we set ourselves apart to reflect God’s holiness in the way we live?

The Bible reveals that God’s holiness of character is a model for believers’ lives and our shared communion with others. Both passages (Leviticus 19:2 and 1 Peter 1:16) and their surrounding verses stress that we who wish to replicate God’s holiness must reflect His holy nature in our relationships with other people and our sincere love for fellow believers.

In Leviticus 19:1–37, God applies the Ten Commandments to various areas of life, spelling out in great detail for the Israelites how to be holy as He is holy. They were to honor their parents, keep the Sabbath, not practice idolatry, worship and offer sacrifices properly according to God’s instructions, provide for the poor, not steal, cheat, seek revenge, and not follow pagan customs and rituals. The commands continue, covering every aspect of spiritual, moral, family, work, and community life. Included is the charge to “love your neighbor as yourself. I am the LORD” (Leviticus 19:18).

Peter also lays out how we can live in the light of God’s command to be holy as He is holy. First, he says to discipline our minds: “So prepare your minds for action and exercise self-control. Put all your hope in the gracious salvation that will come to you when Jesus Christ is revealed to the world” (1 Peter 1:13, NLT). We are to exercise self-control and stay alert both mentally and spiritually. This mental discipline requires a concentrated focus on trusting in the Lord to get us to our final destination, where we will experience the fullness of God’s grace in Jesus Christ.

Paul expresses it like this: “Not that I have already reached the goal or am already perfect, but I make every effort to take hold of it because I also have been taken hold of by Christ Jesus. Brothers and sisters, I do not consider myself to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and reaching forward to what is ahead, I pursue as my goal the prize promised by God’s heavenly call in Christ Jesus” (Philippians 3:12–14, CSB). If we focus only on the short-term—our current situation—we run the risk of straying off course. But if we live with total trust that Jesus Christ will return to accomplish all that He started in us (Philippians 1:6), it will make a significant difference in how we live.

“You must live as God’s obedient children,” says Peter, “Don’t slip back into your old ways of living to satisfy your own desires” (1 Peter 1:14. When we “do not conform to the evil desires” we had before we came to know Christ, we live in response to God’s holiness, adopting His behavior as our pattern.

This change of behavior begins on the inside with our attitude and mind-set. When our inner thought life, our purpose, and our character are changed into the image of Christ, our outward selves and outworking behavior will alter naturally. This process is the Holy Spirit’s work of sanctification: “And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit” (2 Corinthians 3:18).

As part of his teaching on cultivating holiness, Peter instructs believers to “live out your time as foreigners here in reverent fear” (1 Peter 1:17). Living as strangers here on earth hammers home the idea that our earthly lives with all their challenges and struggles are only temporary. Even in our pain, we can live with hope as citizens of a future heavenly reality. Reverent fear refers to humble, respectful awe of God, which motivates us to live obedient, holy lives.

Finally, Peter makes the point that living in the light of God’s holiness means demonstrating “sincere love to each other as brothers and sisters. Love each other deeply with all your heart” (1 Peter 1:22, NLT).

Believers ought to be notably different from non-believers and their old selves because of our relationship with God through Jesus Christ. His holy presence in our lives produces in us a loving obedience to God’s Word, which ultimately forms God’s character in us. If we are set apart for God’s use, separated from our old, common way of living, we are following God’s command to “be holy for I am holy.”


Take Time To Be Holy

Take time to be holy, speak oft with thy Lord;
Abide in Him always, and feed on His Word.
Make friends of God’s children, help those who are weak,
Forgetting in nothing His blessing to seek.

Take time to be holy, the world rushes on;
Spend much time in secret, with Jesus alone.
By looking to Jesus, like Him thou shalt be;
Thy friends in thy conduct His likeness shall see.

Take time to be holy, let Him be thy Guide;
And run not before Him, whatever betide.
In joy or in sorrow, still follow the Lord,
And, looking to Jesus, still trust in His Word.

Take time to be holy, be calm in thy soul,
Each thought and each motive beneath His control.
Thus led by His Spirit to fountains of love,
Thou soon shalt be fitted for service above.

William D. Longstaff (ca. 1882)

Dear MAGA: 20230528 Open Topic

This Rejoice & Praise God Sunday Open Thread, with full respect to those who worship God on the Sabbath, is a place to reaffirm our worship of our Creator, our Father, our King Eternal.

It’s also a place to read, post, and discuss news that is worth knowing and sharing. Please post links to any news stories that you use as sources or quote from.

In the QTree, we’re a friendly and civil lot. We encourage free speech and the open exchange and civil discussion of different ideas. Topics aren’t constrained, and sound logic is highly encouraged, all built on a solid foundation of truth and established facts.

We have a policy of mutual respect, shown by civility. Civility encourages discussions, promotes objectivity and rational thought in discourse, and camaraderie in the participants – characteristics we strive toward in our Q Tree community.

Please show respect and consideration for our fellow QTreepers. Before hitting the “post” button, please proofread your post and make sure your opinion addresses the issue only, and does not confront or denigrate the poster. Keep to the topic – avoid “you” and “your”. Here in The Q Tree, personal attacks, name-calling, ridicule, insults, baiting, and other conduct for which a penalty flag would be thrown are VERBOTEN.

In The Q Tree, we’re compatriots, sitting around the campfire, roasting hot dogs, making s’mores, and discussing, agreeing, and disagreeing about whatever interests us. This board will remain a home for those who seek respectful conversations.

Please also consider the Guidelines for posting and discussion printed here: 
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On this day and every day –

God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up


Hopefully, every Sunday, we can find something here that will build us up a little . . . give us a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.

“This day is holy to the Lord your God;
do not mourn nor weep.” . . .
“Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet,
and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared;
for this day is holy to our Lord.
Do not sorrow,
for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”


Faith, hope, and love remain.
(1 Corinthians 13:13)

First Corinthians 12 talks about spiritual gifts, which are distributed by the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 12:4). One Christian may receive one type of gift while another receives a different gift. Chapter 13 goes one step further and mentions the three gifts that are common for all Christians: faith, hope, and love. Verse 13 says, “And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.”

In stating that faith, hope, and love remain, Paul does something interesting and unexpected: he uses a singular verb for a compound (and therefore plural) subject. His statement in 1 Corinthians 13:13 could be literally rendered “faith, hope, and love remains.” Paul’s point is that, essentially, faith, hope, and love are united; what happens to one happens to all. And what happens is that they “remain.”

The fact that faith, hope, and love remain must be understood in light of the broader context. Paul had just listed another set of three gifts that would not remain: “Where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is knowledge, it will pass away” (1 Corinthians 13:8). So, the passage contains a contrast: three gifts of the Spirit that will cease, and three gifts that will never end. Faith, hope, and love will always remain.

The Corinthian church members were priding themselves on the fact that they could speak in tongues and demonstrate other attention-getting gifts. Paul reminds them of “the most excellent way” (1 Corinthians 12:31)—the way of love. The gifts that the Corinthians so desired were but temporary; faith, hope, and love, the foundational gifts, are permanent and therefore more to be desired.

Faith, hope, and love are gifts in the present age, and they will still be gifts in the age to come. The NLT translates the promise this way: “Three things will last forever—faith, hope, and love.” It’s easy to see how love will last forever, since love is an essential part of God’s nature (1 John 4:16). But what about faith and hope? Those two gifts will likewise last forever. Faith in the Son of God will not cease in the eternal state; we will not stop trusting Jesus just because our faith has become sight. If anything, our trust in Him will grow greater. Similarly, our hope will not cease just because our blessed hope has come. Our lives will continue in the eternal state, as will our expectation of other things in an infinite sequence of adventure.

Faith, hope, and love are the three gifts that will be ours throughout all eternity. And agape love is the ultimate gift. God in His goodness gives us the privilege of possessing these gifts today, and we look forward to having them remain with us forever.

The greatest of these is love.

First Corinthians 13:13 says, “And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.” This comes just after Paul’s eloquent and famous description of what true love—agape love—is. There are several ways in which love can be said to be the greatest.

First Corinthians 13:13 lists love along with faith and hope as a gift that lasts forever. The lasting nature of faith, hope, and love make them greater than all other gifts of the Spirit; the gifts of prophecy, tongues, and knowledge are mentioned in 1 Corinthians 13:8 as coming to an end. Of the three “forever gifts,” love is the greatest.

Love is greater than faith and hope in that both faith and hope depend on love for their existence. Without love, there can be no true faith; a loveless faith is nothing but an empty religious exercise. As Paul says, “If I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing” (1 Corinthians 13:2). Without love, there can be no genuine hope; a loveless hope is an oxymoron, because we can’t truly hope for something that we do not love. Faith and hope are dead, sterile things if not accompanied by love.

One of the reasons that love is the greatest gift is that it is inherent in God’s nature. First John 4:8 tells us that God is love. The book of John and John’s three letters are replete with the theme of love. God gives us His love, and we reflect that love back to Him: “We love because he first loved us” (1 John 4:19). Jesus said, “As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Now remain in my love. If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love. I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and that your joy may be complete. My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. . . . You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit—fruit that will last—and so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you. This is my command: Love each other” (John 15:9–17). Here we see that love is something that has always existed among the persons of the Trinity. Love has no beginning and does not end. And this is the love into which we are invited. Jesus desired for future believers to be part of His love as well: “I have made you known to them, and will continue to make you known in order that the love you have for me may be in them and that I myself may be in them” (John 17:26).

Jesus taught that the greatest two commandments both include love, the greatest gift: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments” (Matthew 22:37–40).

John Calvin puts forward a very simple reason why love is the greatest gift: “Because faith and hope are our own: love is diffused among others.” In other words, faith and hope benefit the possessor, but love always benefits another. In John 13:34–35 Jesus says, “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.” Love always requires an “other” as an object; love cannot remain within itself, and that is part of what makes love the greatest gift.

Love is core to God’s character and central to the Christian life. The law of Christ is to love God and love others. Love infuses all that God does and should infuse all that we do. “Love never fails ” (1 Corinthians 13:8), and it will never cease. Because of this, love is greater than even hope and faith.

Agápē Love

The Greek word agápē is often translated “love” in the New Testament. How is “agape love” different from other types of love? The essence of agape love is goodwill, benevolence, and willful delight in the object of love. Unlike our English word loveagape is not used in the New Testament to refer to romantic love. Nor does it refer to close friendship or brotherly love. Agape love involves faithfulness, commitment, and an act of the will. It is distinguished from the other types of love by its lofty moral nature and strong character. 

Agape love does not come naturally to us. Because of our fallen nature, we are incapable of producing such a love. If we are to love as God loves, that love—that agape—can only come from its Source. This is the love that “has been poured out into our hearts through the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us” when we became His children (Romans 5:5; cf. Galatians 5:22). “This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers and sisters” (1 John 3:16). Because of God’s love toward us, we are able to love one another.


Remember, “nothing can ever separate us from God’s love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow—not even the powers of hell can separate us from God’s love. No power in the sky above or in the earth below—indeed, nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate us from the love of God that is revealed in Christ Jesus our Lord.” (Romans 8:38-39) And,

2023·05·27 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

McCarthy 2.0 seems a vast improvement over Speaker Dungsmear. So here’s the question. Was he once a conservative with a little fire in the belly that got captured by the system and now is finding the bellyfire again? Or is this all completely under duress?

For the moment, it doesn’t matter which one. But some day it will matter, and we will have our answer.

RINOs an Endangered Species?
If Only!

According to Wikipoo, et. al., the Northern White Rhinoceros (Ceratotherium simum cottoni) is a critically endangered species. Apparently two females live on a wildlife preserve in Sudan, and no males are known to be alive. So basically, this species is dead as soon as the females die of old age. Presently they are watched over by armed guards 24/7.

Biologists have been trying to cross them with the other subspecies, Southern White Rhinoceroses (Rhinoceri?) without success; and some genetic analyses suggest that perhaps they aren’t two subspecies at all, but two distinct species, which would make the whole project a lot more difficult.

I should hope if the American RINO (Parasitus rectum pseudoconservativum) is ever this endangered, there will be heroic efforts not to save the species, but rather to push the remainder off a cliff. Onto punji sticks. With feces smeared on them. Failing that a good bath in red fuming nitric acid will do.

But I’m not done ranting about RINOs.

The RINOs (if they are capable of any introspection whatsoever) probably wonder why they constantly have to deal with “populist” eruptions like the Trump-led MAGA movement. That would be because the so-called populists stand for absolutely nothing except for going along to get along. That allows the Left to drive the culture and politics.

Given the results of our most recent elections, the Left will now push harder, and the RINOs will now turn even squishier than they were before.

I well remember 1989-1990 in my state when the RINO establishment started preaching the message that a conservative simply couldn’t win in Colorado. Never mind the fact that Reagan had won the state TWICE (in 1984 bringing in a veto-proof state house and senate with him) and GHWB had won after (falsely!) assuring everyone that a vote for him was a vote for Reagan’s third term.

This is how the RINOs function. They push, push, push the line that only a “moderate” can get elected. Stomp them when they pull that shit. Tell everyone in ear shot that that’s exactly what the Left wants you to think, and oh-by-the-way-Mister-RINO if you’re in this party selling the same message as the Left…well, whythefuckexactly are you in this party, you lying piece of rancid weasel shit?

In Defense of Ranked Choice Voting

One of the biggest obstacles to direly-needed change is RINOs, and one of the weapons in their arsenal is the “Wasted Vote” argument.

Periodically a third party has arisen, trying to hold RINOs to account by putting pressure on them from outside of the party, since doing so from the inside has historically done very little good. But, even if you find a third party candidate who perfectly reflects your views, you’re likely to vote for the RINO anyway. Why? Because if you don’t, the Democrat might win, and that would be even worse. So if you vote for that third party (that few will vote for), you’re throwing your vote away and increasing the likelihood of the Democrat winning. (It’s half as much a gain for the Democrat, as actually voting for the Democrat would be. Not as much, but half as much. Because although you denied the R your vote, you did not flip your vote to the Democrat.)

The Republican Party Establishment knows you don’t love them. But they know you hate the Democrats worse, and they use that to continue to herd you into supporting them. With gritted teeth you cast your vote, but your vote counts the same whether you cast it enthusiastically. And the other alternative, pissing on the voting apparatus to express your actual feelings, is probably a felony.

But what if you could vote for that third party without increasing the chances of the Dem walking away with the prize?

This is what ranked choice voting, or instant runoff voting, can do provided it is properly implemented. (And this includes the votes, and only genuine votes, being counted honestly, of course. However, I’m going to compare it to what we have today, and pretend that is honestly done too. RCV can’t work if it’s not honestly administered, just like our current system isn’t working because it isn’t honestly administered.)

The idea behind RCV is to vote by expressing your order of preference. You could vote for the Patriot Party, then for the RINO Party as your second choice (and ignore the Democrat, the Green, the Overt Socialist Schmuckmonkey Party, etc).

What does this do? It nullifies the wasted vote argument. Your vote will be counted for the Patriot party, first, then instead of it being “wasted” when the Patriot Party loses, it ends up going to the RINO. Actually, it’s just barely possible that the Patriot Party would actually beat the RINO, if people weren’t all individually afraid to vote for it.

It’s just like the famous “Prisoner’s Dilemma” where your fear of other peoples’ actions prevents you from doing the optimal thing–and vice-versa. As long as Job Lowe is afraid to vote Patriot because he’s afraid you’ll vote RINO, you’ll have to vote RINO because you fear that Job Lowe will, because he fears you will.

So on the whole I like RCV. It gives you a no-risk way to vote against the RINO scum, and in favor of someone who deserves your vote.

The problem is, as done here in the US, it comes packaged with a “jungle primary.” A bunch of candidates get to put their name out there, and the top four (or so) candidates get onto the “main” ballot. This gives party establishments their way around the threat of a good third party bumping them off. Because they know that few people bother with primaries, and third parties don’t have the resources to run in a primary…so they throw two or three establishment hacks into the primary and they will probably beat the third party. The result is the RINOs end up with two of the four slots in the general election, and the Dems get the other two. Now there’s suddenly no third party candidate on the ballot at all.

If we were to combine RCV with the present system where each party could nominate exactly one candidate to appear on the November ballot, or at the very least, ensure minor parties could get onto the ballot with at least one candidate regardless of the primary, we would be getting somewhere, but the establishment is smarter than we like to give them credit for. They will support the jungle primary + RCV “solution” rather than the more appropriate one-candidate-per-party + RCV solution.

It’s not RCV that is the problem, it’s the primary structure grafted onto it.

Justice

It says “Justice” on the picture.

And I’m sure someone will post the standard joke about what the fish thinks about the situation.

But what is it?

Here’s a take, from a different context: It’s about how you do justice, not the justice that must be done to our massively corrupt government and media. You must properly identify the nature of a person, before you can do him justice.

Ayn Rand, On Justice (speaking through her character John Galt, in Atlas Shrugged):

Justice is the recognition of the fact that you cannot fake the character of men as you cannot fake the character of nature, that you must judge all men as conscientiously as you judge inanimate objects, with the same respect for truth, with the same incorruptible vision, by as pure and as rational a process of identification—that every man must be judged for what he is and treated accordingly, that just as you do not pay a higher price for a rusty chunk of scrap than for a piece of shining metal, so you do not value a rotter above a hero—that your moral appraisal is the coin paying men for their virtues or vices, and this payment demands of you as scrupulous an honor as you bring to financial transactions—that to withhold your contempt from men’s vices is an act of moral counterfeiting, and to withhold your admiration from their virtues is an act of moral embezzlement—that to place any other concern higher than justice is to devaluate your moral currency and defraud the good in favor of the evil, since only the good can lose by a default of justice and only the evil can profit—and that the bottom of the pit at the end of that road, the act of moral bankruptcy, is to punish men for their virtues and reward them for their vices, that that is the collapse to full depravity, the Black Mass of the worship of death, the dedication of your consciousness to the destruction of existence.

Ayn Rand identified seven virtues, chief among them rationality. The other six, including justice, she considered subsidiary because they are essentially different aspects and applications of rationality.

—Ayn Rand Lexicon (aynrandlexicon.com)

Justice Must Be Done.

Trump, it is supposed, had some documents.

Biden and company stole the country.

I’m sure enough of this that I put my money where my mouth is.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system. (This doesn’t necessarily include deposing Joe and Hoe and putting Trump where he belongs, but it would certainly be a lot easier to fix our broken electoral system with the right people in charge.)

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is pointless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud in the system is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

This will necessarily be piecemeal, state by state, which is why I am encouraged by those states working to change their laws to alleviate the fraud both via computer and via bogus voters. If enough states do that we might end up with a working majority in Congress and that would be something Trump never really had.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

Spot Prices

Last week:

Gold $1,978.70
Silver $23.93
Platinum $1,073.00
Palladium $1,548.00
Rhodium $7,900.00

This week, 3 PM MT on Friday, markets closed for the weekend

Gold $1,946.20
Silver $23.41
Platinum $1,033.00
Palladium $1,458.00
Rhodium $7,900.00

Precious metals again taking a beating. Dollar going up…somehow.

Recycled from The UTree

When the U-Tree first began, Wolf had set up a generic opener, but each day was devoted to a different element. Some of the geekier of us (i.e., Cthulhu and I) would talk about that element in the comments.

When it got to 92-Uranium, I had something written up already and simply pasted it into several succeeding comments. The next two days carried on with that.

I’m going to just copy those into here lest they be lost. I’ll include some of cthulhu’s commentary too (attributed).

I remembered these posts when someone mentioned the UTree over on the backup site.

Dates: 6-9 February of 2020.

Uranium

Uranium may be an actinide, but it is FAR from dull.

The story begins with a mineral that was once called “blende,” from a German word for “to blind” because it resembled galena, a valuable ore of lead, yet contained nothing of value. It is now regarded as a zinc ore, but back then it wasn’t appreciated for that. Today, blende is called “sphalerite.”

One variety of blende was called pitchblende, for being black, like pitch. This showed up alongside silver, lead and copper ores in Germany and what is now Czechia (the Czech Republic).

In particular, there was a town called Joachimsthal in what is now Czechia, with a VERY rich silver mine, and that mine had pitchblende in it.

Joachimsthal had so much silver its lord began coining very large silver coins, which became known as Joachimsthalers, which got shortened (in some countries) to thalers. These are the direct ancestor of the US dollar.

But we’re more interested in the pitchblende tonight.

The German chemist Martin Heinrich Klaproth (1743-1817) took an interest in pitchblende, and began experimenting on it. He eventually ended up, in 1789, with a yellowish substance, which he figured had to be the oxide of a new metal. (This sounds a lot like the stories of discovering the lanthanides, doesn’t it?). (This oxide, by the way, is now known as yellowcake.)

There was, at the time, a strong tradition of associating metals with planets. (Look, for instance, at mercury, and Mercury.) And in 1781, just eight years before, a new planet–the first one since ancient times–had been discovered. So Klaproth named his new metal, which he hadn’t isolated, after the planet: uranium. (Nor was this the only time this happened: shortly after Ceres was discovered in 1801, cerium was named after it. Eventually we realized Ceres was something of a totally new type, an asteroid, not a full-blown planet.)

OK, so Klaproth wanted to see the real metal, not just its oxide. He tried a trick that often worked, he reacted it with charcoal. That often pulls oxygen away from something else. And indeed he got a shiny black powder, and he figured that was the metal uranium. So did everyone else.

In fact, yellowcake is UO3 uranium trioxide, and what Klaproth had done was to strip one oxygen from it; his black shiny powder was uranium dioxide, UO2.

This was eventually realized, in 1841, by the French chemist Eugene Peligot (1811-1890), who had been experimenting with UO2, and finding he couldn’t get things to add up; he concluded there must still be oxygen in it. He then decided to try to isolate the real metal. He started with uranium tetrachloride (that sounds like nasty stuff), UCl4, and figured he’d try something a lot more reactive than charcoal to pull the chlorine away.

He used potassium metal. (Yikes!) And did so without injuring himself. And now he had a new black powder, and this really was uranium.

Nobody but a few chemists cared. Uranium was a thoroughly useless substance, unremarkable in any way, most people had never even heard of it. It was as obscure back then, as thulium is today.

When people tried to determine uranium’s atomic weight in the middle of the 19th century, they thought it was about 116. So it didn’t even get noticed as having the highest atomic weight of any known element. Instead, it was thought to lie between silver and tin. The champion was bismuth, coming in at 209.

Dmitri Mendeleev, when he constructed the first periodic table around 1869, found that uranium simply didn’t fit, chemically, between silver and tin, not in the least. But it worked well if he doubled the weight to 232; then it naturally fell into a place with the right chemical properties. Going back to the experimental data, it could actually be re-interpreted to give a value near 240; someone had made assumptions while interpreting the data the first time around, that apparently were unwarranted.

That brings us up to 1871. Uranium is now by far the heaviest atom known, easily beating out bismuth…but that meant nothing to anyone but chemists and trivia geeks like Cthulhu and me.

In 1896, something interesting happened. The previous year, X rays had been discovered by Wilhelm Konrad Roentgen, and exotic rays became all the rage. Well, Antoine Henri Becquerel was running experiments to see if fluroescent minerals emitted X rays. He used photographic plates, wrapped in black paper. Visible light couldn’t affect them, but X rays, if any were present, would. So he figured he’d put the fluorescent substance on top of the plate, expose it to sunlight, let it fluoresce, and then later, unwrap the plate and develop it. If it were fogged, the fluorescent substance had emitted X rays.

He tried a huge number of fluorescent substances, and got zero positive results. There was one exception: potassium uranyl sulfate. It would fog the plates. So Becquerel got excited. That particular day it had been cloudy, but he’d wait for good weather, really expose the potassium uranyl sulfate, and get a really good fogging of the photographic plate.

So what happened? Murphy stepped in. Paris had a long run of crappy weather. Becquerel had a bunch of brand new plates and nothing to do with them, for a while, so he stuck them in a drawer, and put his sample in with them.

Days passed; Becquerel got more and more frustrated. He was this close to confirming an interesting result from his experiment; if only the damn Sun would come out!

Well, he figured, he might as well develop the plates. Maybe there had been some lingering X ray fluorescence. That could be interesting, couldn’t it?

The plates were totally fogged. As if he had simply exposed them to sunlight! WTF!!!

Whatever this was…it could go right through the black paper, and did NOT need the Sun to excite the sample, like fluorescence did. It just kept on going, even in the darkness of his cabinet.

Becquerel tried samples that hadn’t seen sunlight in months. He eventually realized that what mattered was how much uranium was present; he even tried uranium compounds that did not fluoresce.

Whatever this was, it had NOTHING to do with fluorescence, and everything to do with uranium.

He had a new phenomenon, and it became known as Becquerel rays. Maybe it wasn’t Murphy after all.

Marie Sklodowska Curie stepped in almost immediately, and named this new phenomenon “radioactivity” and showed that thorium, which had been discovered in the meantime and had an atomic weight almost has high as uranium’s, was also radioactive.

This, suddenly, made uranium glamorous. Nothing like this had ever been seen before…a totally inanimate lump of metal, just pumping out energy continuously.

Further experimentation showed that uranium and thorium were giving off gamma rays…a lot like X rays only even more energetic. But they were also giving off small particles with mass, and that implied atoms weren’t the smallest pieces of matter out there. So now we had “subatomic particles.”

And it turned out uranium and thorium slowly turned into lead. (The alchemists who had tried to turn lead into gold would surely be spinning in their graves; something was turning other things into lead–the wrong direction!)

Ernest Rutherford was able to demonstrate that an atom had a huge cloud of negatively charged particles (electrons) and a very small, dense nucleus with a positive charge to balance the electrons.

And in 1913 Henry Gwyn-Jeffries Mosely used X-rays to excite nuclei, and showed that every nucleus had a positive charge that was a multiple of hydrogen’s; this became the atomic number. Hydrogen is 1, iron is 26, silver is 47, tin is 50, gold is 79, lead is 82, bismuth is 83, thorium is 90, and uranium is 92.

Uranium had the highest number, and nothing known lay between bismuth and thorium. It was speculated that there probably were elements 84-89, but they hadn’t lasted long enough to survive to the present day, whereas thorium and uranium had known half lives of billions of years, so they were still around. This is essentially correct.

So now uranium is fascinating–it was radioactive, the highest atomic weight, the highest atomic number…but still, only chemists really cared.

Uranium minerals were tested for their radioactivity. And there was too much of it. Chemists knew exactly how much uranium was in the mineral. And they knew, based on uranium’s 4.5 billion year half life, how much radioactivity there SHOULD be from that much uranium. Yet there was quite a bit more. Separating out the uranium and checking it, the numbers came out right; the more pure the uranium, the better the fit. So there was other stuff in the minerals that was radioactive. More radioactive than uranium.

Which made no sense; if it were MORE radioactive, it should have been gone by now.

They even noticed the pure uranium samples got more radioactive with time.

This was realized well before 1913.

The only explanation that made sense was that the uranium didn’t turn directly to lead, it broke down by stages into intermediate elements, and an old sample would basically be in a balance, uranium decaying into something else at a rate just enough to replenish that something else as it decayed into yet another something else. If it’s something that breaks down quickly, there’s never much around. It’d be undetectable chemically.

Well Marie Curie and her husband Pierre realized they could find those in-between elements, though, because their radioactivity was a beacon.

So they got a bunch of pitchblende and started experimenting on it. (The Ronco Pitchblendeamatic had not been invented yet.) They went through several tons of the stuff, doing experiments and noticing if any of the results showed a concentration of radioactivity. Eventually, in 1898 they got just a bit of polonium (84). Further experimenting hit on radium (88). But they couldn’t get much of it, and they wanted a visible sample. So they asked Joachimstal to send them their waste slag, which they were happy to do as long as the Curies paid the shipping.

They went through tons of it to get the radium. By 1902 they had a tenth of a gram. And it became the glamour substance. Who cared about uranium any more?

Back to 1911 and Ernest Rutherford. He decided to try to deliberately produce nuclear reactions. He was able to bounce alpha rays off of nitrogen atoms…and some of them transformed into oxygen atoms.

He decided to try other things, and, ultimately, switched to using bare protons (which are just hydrogen atoms with the electron stripped away, or to put that another way, positive hydrogen ions). Devices that could accelerate protons were developed, in particular by Ernest Orlando Lawrence in 1931. Still, it was hard to do this, because the proton, with a positive charge, was repelled by the nucleus, which was its target. [Cthulhu commented here to point out that Ernest Orlando Lawrence is the namesake of the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. I responded by pointing out that element 103, lawrencium, is also named after him.]

But it also turned out that when beryllium was exposed to alpha rays, a new particle came out. One without a charge. That made it hard to pin down, but eventually it was to become known as the neutron (1932). It was much easier to hit a nucleus with a neutron, because the positive charge of the nucleus didn’t repel it, as it did with protons and alpha rays.

Almost immediately, we realized nuclei didn’t just contain protons, they also contained neutrons.

And often, when a neutron was added to a nucleus, the nucleus would become radioactive, spit out an electron, and one of the neutrons would turn into a proton–the atom would become an atom of the next higher element.

What would happen if you did this to uranium? Would you get element 93?

This would be a new–and man-made–element. That would be a big deal!

Enrico Fermi, who had worked a lot of this out (including methods to slow down neutrons so they could react with nuclei), decided, in 1934, to try. He got some very peculiar results. He was unwilling to announce success, he couldn’t be sure what he had. But Mussolini got wind of this and insisted on announcing a triumph of Italian physics.

By 1940 people had untangled the mess and realized that Fermi hadn’t just created element 93, but that element 93 had decayed *again* and become element 94. These elements were named neptunium and plutonium, continuing with the planet sequence.

But elsewhere, Otto Hahn and Lise Meitner whad different ideas. Perhaps, if they hit uranium atoms, they could get TWO alpha decays instead of just one…uranium could turn directly into radium without going through thorium first.

They tried it, figuring if they started with pure uranium, then later detected radium, they’d have the proof they needed. But there wouldn’t be much of it. But, radium and barium are virtual twins, like zirconium and hafnium. So they figured they could do the bombardment, mix the uranium with barium, chemically separate the two, and see if the barium was radioactive…because it had some radium in it. Then they could put the final period on the whole thing by separating the radium from the barium, which was difficult but possible.

Before they could get started, Germany annexed Austria, and Meitner fled to Denmark, where Niels Bohr helped her get on her feet again.

Hahn, who had stayed behind, performed the experiment, and indeed the barium was radioactive. But he couldn’t get any radium out of it! Not a shred!

Eventually, the logic forced itself on him. If he couldn’t separate out the radioactive atoms from the barium by any means, it’s because they were barium.

So wait…you hit uranium, element 92, with a neutron…and you don’t get something nearby (like element 93 or 91 or 90 or even 88), you get barium, element 56?

This implied…that the nucleus was splitting into two very large pieces. It was fissioning!

Meitner had been kept updated, and although Hahn didn’t want to go public–this was just too crazy–she did. This was January, 1939. World War II was months away.

As it turned out: Fermi’s results came from hitting the uranium-238 isotope, with 92 neutrons and 146 neutrons.

Hahn and Meitner’s results came from hitting ther uranium-235 isotope, with 92 neutrons and 143 neutrons. And it turned out the fission released two or three free neutrons. Another physicist, Leo Szilard, had already wondered if one could find a reaction, started by a neutron, that would release more neutrons, and set up a chain reaction and produce energy…and now here was his answer.

American physicists were the first to follow up on this…luckily for the world.

And Leo Szilard, who had fled to America to get out from under Hitler, realized we HAD to do that chain reaction before Hitler did. He wrote letters to scientists, begging them to keep their research secret…and many of them did. And he eventually got Einstein to write to Roosevelt, and the Manhattan Project was born.

But let us consider uranium 235. It has a half life of 700 million years or so, which means most of the U-235 the earth had at formation, is gone. And indeed uranium is less than one percent U-235, 0.72% in fact.

If you add a neutron to uranium 235, it becomes U-236. U-236 is likely to just split into two large pieces, as Hahn had discovered. (All uranium isotopes can do this; but U-236 does so often, and very quickly, when it has just been excited by the neutron capture that created it) This releases a LOT of energy. It also happens to release some neutrons…which could go on to hit more U-235, which releases more neutrons…the chain reaction has started.

That means that U-235 is not just fissionable (all uranium isotopes *can* fission) but since it can sustain a chain reaction, it’s “fissile.”

The rub is, there’s so little U-235 in a lump of uranium those freed-up neutrons are more likely by far to hit a U-238 nucleus, and do other interesting things…but not release more neutrons. That would squelch the chain reaction right there. Instead we need to have a net increase of neutrons (for a bomb) or a steady number of them (for a reactor).

The only way to do that with U-235 is to concentrate it. Somehow, it must be separated from the U-238.

This cannot be done chemically. Both types of uranium are uranium and will behave the same. But, because the weight is over one percent different, perhaps, say, a centrifuge, or gravity could separate them. But for that to work, the uranium cannot be in solid form.

It turns out that uranium hexafluoride is a gas, and (bonus) there’s only one isotope of fluorine found in nature, so any difference between uranium hexaflurode molecules is due to the uranium atom. So the Manhattan project was able to produce “enriched” uranium this way. It was difficult (fluorine is nasty, nasty, nasty stuff) and took buildings so big people rode bicycles in them to do, but we managed to produce uranium where a large fraction of the U-238 had been removed.

You end up with some uranium that is enriched (a large percentage is U-235) whereas the U-238 that has been removed is called “depleted uranium”

[And, if you hear about Iran and its centrifuges, that’s what they’re for: to enrich uranium, to make bombs.]

Apparently, uranium that is more than 5% but less than 20% U-235 is suitable for use in reactors, above that you’re getting into nuclear bomb territory.

In principle, it’s easy at this point. To make it go kaboom, you need only put a sufficient mass together in one place at one time. That mass is the critical mass. But that depends on how concentrated it is. The more concentrated, the better. You could make a bomb out of hundreds of kilos of 25% U-235, but if you can get it up to 85%, you need a lot less.

It’s so simple, that we didn’t bother to test the U-235 bomb we built in World War II. (We did test the plutonium bomb, near Alamogordo, New Mexico. But that’s a story for another day, like maybe two days from now.) We dropped our one and only U-235 bomb on Hiroshima, and it worked like a champ.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Boy

The bomb, named “Little Boy,” consisted of a cylindrical slug, and a cylindrical ring, of U-235, combined mass 64 kilograms, of 80% U-235. There was a neutron reflector around the whole thing, increasing its efficiency; the 64 kilograms was about two and a half critical masses.

To detonate it, explosives fired behind the ring, it went down rails to surround the cylinder, and the critical mass was formed. With a little help from some neutron sources in the nose of the bomb……

BOOM!!!

(Note to potential aggressors: Don’t sneak-attack US soil. Unless some pusbag like Obola is in office. Little Boy was ~20 kilotons. We now have bombs, in the plural, at least 50 times as powerful.)

So the U-235 bomb is very simple to make…but getting the U-235 itself is a very painful process.

The U-238 isn’t useless for nuclear energy…but it has to go through a different process, again, a story for a different day.

One thing I forgot.

The order creating the Manhattan Project was signed on December 6, 1941.

If Roosevelt had dithered for a day, well, he would likely have been too distracted to remember to sign it.

Neptunium

[The next day I did this. But before I posted, cthulhu posted about the isotopes, so let me quote that first]

Neptunium has three isotopes of significant interest. Np-237 has a half-life of 2.14 million years; Np-236 has a half-life of 154,000 years; and Np-235 has a half-life of 396.1 days [or just less than 1.1 years]. Other isotopes have been observed, but not for long.

It has been determined that Np-237 could be used to make an atomic bomb. This would clearly be less of a geopolitical threat than making an atomic bomb out of Np-235 — such a bomb would have to be used within a few months of the neptunium’s isolation or half the fissile material could have transformed into something else.

cthulhu

[Now me.]

Neptunium was discovered by Enrico Fermi when he tried bombarding uranium with slow neutrons. (I described this yesterday, but I will recap it here.)

In doing so, he converted some U-238 nuclei into U-239 nuclei. (Recall that U-238 is the most common uranium isotope, with 146 neutrons, as opposed to U-235, which has 143 neutrons; the 238 and 235 are the numbers you get when you total up the number of neutrons with the number of protons, 92 in the case of any uranium isotope).

U-239, however, has a very short half life (in contrast with over four billion years for U-238). That half life is 23.45 minutes. But makes it far more interesting is that U-239 does NOT decay by alpha decay. Alpha decay (hypothetically) would subtract 4 from the isotope number and two from the atomic number, making it thorium-235. Big deal.

Instead U-239 undergoes beta decay. In essence, a neutron splits apart into a proton and an electron (and an antineutrino is blooped out too, but Fermi didn’t know about that…yet). The electron flies out of the nucleus, and that’s the “beta radiation.” The proton remains in the nucleus.

But now…instead of element 92, isotope 239, you have element 93, isotope 239.

And that is a VERY BIG DEAL indeed, no sarcasm at all this time.

Until this moment, we had never seen ANY element past uranium.

(Which is not to say element 93 doesn’t exist in nature; it does, because sometimes this neutron capture happens naturally in uranium ores. It’s an extremely rare occurrence, however.)

Fermi didn’t realize it at the time. He thought his experiment had succeeded, but there was an awful lot of other stuff in his sample and his measurements were all over the map; likely because he’d fissioned some U-235 (see yesterday). But he had also unknowingly created element 94.

You see, element 93, isotope 239 has a 2.3 day half life…and it, too decays by beta decay. So it bumps up to element 94, isotope 239.

Uranium had been named after the planet Uranus; it seemed natural to continue the sequence with Neptune->neptunium, and Pluto->plutonium, because in the 1930s and 1940s Pluto had just been discovered and was decades away from being understood as the first member of a new class of astronomical object. It was considered a planet. (Sort of like Ceres, after which cerium was named; it became recognized as the first known asteroid.)

So element 93, the element of the day, is “neptunium,” symbol Np, and stands as the first element artificially created, in fact many tons of it have been created.

But in and of itself it’s of little interest. It’s the plutonium we’re after. And that’s a story for another day…tomorrow being that day.

The most stable isotope of Neptunium isn’t 239, it’s 237. And 237, with a 2.14 million year half life, decays by alpha emission; in fact it’s considered the “top” of the neptunium decay series, which consists of a number of isotopes whose numbers, when divided by four, leave a remainder of 1.

The earth is over 2000 times as old as that half life, thus in order for one atom of original neptunium 237 to still be around, statistically, we’d have to have started out with 2^2000 atoms of neptunium-237 in the earth. This is quite absurd. 210 is 1024, roughly a thousand [add: and exactly equal to 1/fauxcahontas], so for every ten powers of 2, we have roughly 3 powers of ten, so 22000 is very roughly 10667.

There aren’t that many atoms in the universe, much less the earth, not even close! (I’ve seen figures–old ones–estimating the number of protons in the universe at 1080. Replace each proton with 10587 protons, and now we’re getting somewhere close to 10667 atoms in the universe.) So, it’s safe to say there isn’t an atom of original neptunium 237 on earth, and there isn’t a four billion year old atom of neptunium 237 anywhere in the universe; it would have to beat incredible odds to still exist after 2000 half lives.

So there are few, if any, naturally occurring neptunium-237 decay series atoms on Earth. Any that do, exist because something in the thorium decay series captured a neutron, and that’s just as rare as natural Np-239.

If you look up “neptunium” on wikipedia, there’s actually a picture of a sphere of it (coated in nickel, I believe), but that makes the point that neptunium can be, and is, mass-produced.

Thus it actually makes sense to talk about its bulk properties.

The density is 20.45…that beats out gold and wolfram, but does not beat out platinum, iridium, osmium, or rhenium. Still, it’s respectably dense.

Here are some videos, from “Periodic Table Videos”

[To which cthulhu responded:]

It should be noted that Neptunium is produced in volume inside nuclear power reactions as an unwanted by-product of their operation. It’s not that anyone is generating it on-purpose.

cthulhu

And I replied:

Np-239 of course is the stepping stone to Pu-239, so it IS definitely produced, quite deliberately, in breeder reactors. But it’s a mere stepping stone to what we really want.

But you’re certainly correct that the other isotopes are crud.

More from me:

I mentioned that Np-237 was the “top” of the neptunium decay series, but…hypothetically, Am-241 will decay into Np-237. It has a much shorter half life, though, so it’s not considered the father of the series.

But–you almost certainly have some Am-241 in your house! A story for another day.

And more from Cthulhu:

Work done by Edwin McMillan at the Berkeley Radiation Laboratory at UC Berkeley starting in 1939 led to the discovery of neptunium when he was playing with their new 60-inch cyclotron that had just been built there.

Berkeley had an extensive collection of cyclotrons (particle accelerators) around that time — it seemed that every PhD student wanted to build a bigger one as his thesis work (or first postdoc grant). There’s actually an amusing anecdote that arises from this.

It seems the FAA kept getting reports from people flying airplanes around the East Bay hills. They’d be flying along, clear skies, nothing untoward — and all their cockpit electronics would fail. Or an engine would quit firing. Or their radio would drop out….a second later, things would go back to normal — and a few minutes later, the pilots’ heartbeats would return to normal. This happened for years and the FAA had no idea why.

Until some bright boys figured it out. One of the smaller cyclotrons — about a 30-incher IIRC — was used for training purposes to “show people how it worked” before they could book time on the larger ones. Because this was for practice purposes, students would irradiate stuff like paper clips and pencils. And because it wasn’t very large, it didn’t have a specific home — they’d move it from classroom to classroom. And, without a specific home, they’d just aim the output that went past the target out any convenient window.

So these random aviators would encounter invisible particle beam weapons while flying anywhere near Berkeley. Mind you, the beam wasn’t collimated like a laser — it formed a cone……but at 10,000 feat, the cone was only a few yards across. Large enough to get one engine in a two-engine plane. And even if you hit it right in the middle, you’d be through it in a second or so. And the strength probably wasn’t going to permanently damage anything…..

cthulhu

Plutonium

Plutonium is interesting for various reasons.

First and most famously, of course, is its use in nuclear weapons.

That’s generally plutonium 239…which, if you’ve been following along, is generated by decaying neptunium 239, which in turn is generated by decaying uranium 239, which comes about when uranium 238 in a breeder reactor captures a neutron.

It’s called a breeder reactor because it actually creates nuclear fuel, to wit the plutonium 239. It’s an excellent fuel, easily made (far more so than uranium-235) but it’s much more difficult to make a bomb out of, fortunately. It won’t fission unless it’s compressed, and the best way to compress it is to surround it with explosives and have those explosives detonate simultaneously so the plutonium has nowhere to squirt out to. A large part of the Manhattan project was figuring out how to do this–precision explosives.

A plutonium bomb, like the one dropped on Nagasaki, is basically a hollow sphere of plutonium surrounded by the explosives; when the explosives are detonated, the plutonium is compressed to far higher than its normal density and it goes *kaboom*.

This was just complicated enough we felt the need to test it, before dropping the bomb on nagasaki, so the very first nuclear explosion was near Alamagordo, New Mexico. It worked quite satisfactorily so we could drop “Fat Man” on Nagasaki to end World War II.

It’s called “Fat Man” because of its bulbous shape (to accomodate the sphere of plutonium and the surrounding explosives). By contrast, the bomb dropped on Hiroshima involved moving part of the critical mass along rails, so it was relatively long and thin, “Little Boy.”

Nowadays the hydrogen bomb functions by putting tritium and deuterium in the bomb, and letting the heat and pressure of the plutonium detonation cause them to fuse, resulting in a MUCH more powerful bomb. A 50,000 kiloton hydrogen bomb was built and detonated by the Soviet Union once; without hydrogen we were pretty much limited to a few dozen kilotons.

The plutonium in hydrogen bomb–the little bang before the big bag–is often called a “trigger.”

[Cthulhu comment: The bomb at Alamogordo was called “gadget.”]

Plutonium 239 has a half life of about 24,000 years.

Plutonium has another very useful isotope, plutonium-238, with a half life of 87 years It’s used as radioisotope fuel for spacecraft, and at one point, even in pacemakers, in nifty devices called radioisotope thermoelectric generators that directly generate electricity and heat. Its half life is comfortably longer than a human will live, or a space mission will run, without being so much longer we just don’t get as much energy as we could out of it. (Why put something that decays slower than it needs to in your spacecraft? You don’t get as much bang for your buck.) This isotope has a density of 19.3+, similar to gold.

As I mentioned above, it was used in pacemakers for a while starting in 1966, until someone realized tht if the body was cremated, the container might rupture. Not being able to guarantee that some idiot wouldn’t cremate a corpse with one of these installed, the program was canceled. Meanwhile 139 people had received the pacemakers. As of 2007, seven were still with us. On dying the undertaker is supposed to ship the device home to Los Alamos where it will be lovingly cared for.

But that’s not (to me at least) nearly as interesting as another isotope…

Plutonium 244 has a half life of 80 million years. It’s one of the two longest-lived non-primordial radioisotoes.

(There are 34 primordial radioisotopes, i.e., ones that have long enough half lives that they still exist on earth, 4.5 billion years after its creation. Obviously, Uranium 235 and 238, and thorium 232 are on this list, but there are also isotopes of lighter elements that are slightly unstable. In fact most of the indium, tellurium and rhenium on earth today are unstable isotopes, as is all of the bisuth. The tellurium has a halflife in the septillions of years, the indium in the trillions, and the rhenium in the tens of billions of years, so it’s all very, very mild.

Of the primordial radio isotopes, potassium 40 (1 billion years) and uranium 235 (700 million years) have the shortest half lives, after that the next POSSIBLE isotope is Plutonium 244 with its 80 year half life. (It’s interesting that there is no isotope in between 80 and 700 million year half life.)

The age of the earth is 57 half lives of plutonium 244, so some have estimated there might still be about ten grams of it in the earth’s crust. Indeed, someone in 1971 claimed to have detected it. But more recent lab work has failed to confirm this. On the other hand some of the meteoric dust that hits the Earth is of interstellar origin, and some Pu-244 has been detected in that.

It was probably never particularly common, though, because to make Pu-244, you have to keep adding neutrons to something like pu-239, and Pu-243, one of the stepping stones, has a short half life (5 hours), making it unlikely that any slow natural process will manage to get past it–it will most likely decay before another neutron happens along. But that’s a slow process. The same issue arises inside our nuclear power plants, for the same reason, so Pu-244 doesn’t show up much in spent fuel rods. For a fast process, like inside a nuclear bomb, the neutrons get added on quickly, and indeed Pu-244 has been detected in the residues of nuclear bomb blasts.

But it’s interesting to think that, say, two or three billion years ago someone could have mined plutonium from rocks in the earth’s crust. And that some of it, a very small amount, might still be around, a residue of the creation of the solar system and our earth.

One more isotope to consider: Pu-240. This one is a nuisance. When one is creating Pu-239 by exposing U-238 to neutrons, it’s important to pull the sample out of the reactor before too much of the freshly-created Pu-239 has a chance to capture another neutron and become Pu-240, because Pu-240 will actually act to damp the chain reaction that is desired. It simply absorbs the neutron and says, “Ok, give me another” rather than fissioning and creating more neutrons, like Pu-239 does.

The first nuclear reactors dedicated to manufacturing plutonium (as part of the Manhattan Project) were at the “Hanford Site” in Washington State, on the banks of the Columbia River. Being in the rain shadow of the Cascades, the area is pretty much a desert.

The facilities are massive, and by April 1945, they were making a shipment of Plutonium to Los Alamos every five days.

The Hanford Site is the most contaminated nuclear site in the United States.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanford_Site

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Americium

Americium-241 is very likely in your home.

It’s generally kept safe under a layer of gold foil inside that big black thingamabob in your smoke detector.

That’s an ionization chamber, within which smoke particulates pick up an electric charge (from encountering an alpha or beta particle given off by the americium). The electrically charged smoke sets off the detector.

Am-241 has a half life of around 432 years. It decays by alpha particle to the much more stable (but not stable enough) neptunium 237, which is the namesake of the neptunium decay series (isotopes of elements heavier than lead, whose numbers have a remainder of 1 when divided by 4).

The other “common” isotope (remember that spent nuclear reactor fuel has to be gone through to find all this stuff, about 100 grams per tonne) is Am-243, with a half life of 7,370 years.

One of the metastates of Am-242 hangs around for 141 years, on average.

Other than that no americium lasts for more than a year.

Americium was discovered in 1944 by workers on the Manhattan project; they actually found curium (the next element) before they found americium. The discovery was not made public until the next year. (Why announce to the enemy that, with a war on, you’re spending resources on atomic research? They might wonder why and we don’t want them wondering why.)

The amount of americium in a typical new smoke detector is 1 microcurie (37 kBq) or 0.29 microgram. This, of course, would be several times the number of milli-microcuries found in Italian mineral water — which is why you seldom find ionization smoke detectors powered by Pelligrino.

In theory, you could build ultra-compact atomic bombs from americium-242m (half-life 141 years) with a critical mass in the 3-5 kg range if a metal reflector is used. Nobody has claimed to have done so. Then, again, nobody has claimed to have actually orbited a “rods from God” weapons system yet…..

One enterprising young lad removed the americium from approximately 100 smoke detectors in 1994 in hopes of constructing a breeder nuclear reactor in his home shop. I’m not sure that David Hahn, at 17, would have had the wet chemistry chops to actually do anything with a reactor if he had managed to accumulate sufficient material and lit it up…..but we all have to start somewhere.

cthulhu

Obligatory PSAs and Reminders

China is Lower than Whale Shit

To conclude: My standard Public Service Announcement. We don’t want to forget this!!!

Remember Hong Kong!!!

https://youtube.com/watch?v=L3tnH4FGbd0

中国是个混蛋 !!!
Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!!
China is asshoe !!!

China is in the White House

Since Wednesday, January 20 at Noon EST, the bought-and-paid for Joseph Biden has been in the White House. It’s as good as having China in the Oval Office.

Joe Biden is Asshoe

China is in the White House, because Joe Biden is in the White House, and Joe Biden is identically equal to China. China is Asshoe. Therefore, Joe Biden is Asshoe.

But of course the much more important thing to realize:

Joe Biden Didn’t Win

乔*拜登没赢 !!!
Qiáo Bài dēng méi yíng !!!
Joe Biden didn’t win !!!

Dear MAGA: 20230521 Open Topic

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On this day and every day –

God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up


Hopefully, every Sunday, we can find something here that will build us up a little . . . give us a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.

“This day is holy to the Lord your God;
do not mourn nor weep.” . . .
“Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet,
and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared;
for this day is holy to our Lord.
Do not sorrow,
for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”

Glory to God 4

Worthy are You, our Lord and our God, to receive glory and honor and power; for You created all things, and because of Your will they existed, and were created. Revelation 4:11

GLORIFY GOD THROUGH OUR PRAISE AND WORSHIP

Psalm 50:3 says “The one who offers thanksgiving as his sacrifice glorifies me; to one who orders his way rightly I will show the salvation of God!”. Similarly in the New Testament the Apostle Paul summarizes the way we should order our lives in order to glorify God.

The highest call and purpose of man is the joyful act of glorifying God. Notice here, that this is a ‘joyful’ act. As I mentioned earlier when we fulfill the very purpose for which we were created, which is to glorify God, and when we do this in worship, it is a joyful act and not something we have to put on. What is special about glorifying God through worship is that it combines the other two points previously mentioned, “Glorifying God by Believing in Him” and “Glorifying God by Declaring Him”.

When we praise the Lord, we do it because we believe in Him and we have faith in the sacrifice of our Lord Jesus Christ. Secondly when we praise, we are declaring His glory, His honor, His praise, His power, His majesty outwardly.

God is seeking those who will bring Him glory, not just through the Sunday worship time, not just for an hour every day but what He seeks is worship every day, every moment through all our activities. We cannot worship God properly on Sunday or just in our prayer times, if we are not worshiping God throughout the week. In fact, 1 Corinthians 10:31 says “So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.

So, the only way to achieve “glory to God” through worship is when it is done to Him in spirit and truth. John 4:23-24 says “But the hour is coming, as is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship Him.”

Worshiping the Father in spirit is to worship from the heart, from deep within you. It is not the external worship, because external worship can also be performed by those who are not right with God. Matthew 15:8 gives us an example of this, saying “This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me; in vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.”

Worshiping the Father in truth is to worship God for all that He is in the majesty of His attributes revealed in all of scripture. We glorify God and worship Him for His love, and not only for His love but also for His righteousness and justice. We glorify and worship Him for His Kindness, His sovereignty and for His grace.

We worship Him, when He gives and when He takes away. Job 1:20-21 says “And he said, Naked I came from my mother’s womb, and naked shall I return. The LORD gave, and the LORD has taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD.”

We worship God for all of His ways. God’s Word is the source of our worshiping in truth, and as we do this, notice that worship in “spirit” flows out of worship in “truth” through the revealed word of God. As we fill our hearts and minds with the pure word of God, the truth of God will move our spirits to praise and love and glorify God through worship in Him. So starting today, let’s be sure to glorify God through our praise and worship.

Give glory to God! This is the very purpose of why we are created and are image- bearers of the living God. The very reason that we were created is to glorify God in all that we do.

It’s only when we do this that we will be complete, because this is when we fulfill the purpose of our very being. Without consciously giving the glory to God, there is a part of us missing. We will be always left wanting.

So, today if we are struggling to find meaning for our lives, perhaps there is something missing which we just can’t pinpoint. There is something in us searching for answers and we find ourselves lacking without an answer. Hebrews 8:12 says “For I will be merciful toward their iniquities, and I will remember their sins no more.” We are made righteous in Him. 2 Corinthians 5:21 says “For our sake He made Him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in Him we might become the righteousness of God.”

This is the greatest privilege in our life, so take some time to come before the Lord, and start giving Him the glory for everything in our lives, and live for Him, through Him, and by Him, as it says in Romans 11:36 “For from Him and through Him and to Him are all things. To Him be glory forever. Amen.”

Everyone of us owes all that we are and have to God. We owe every fiber of intelligence to God, and the slightest resolve to do good is a gift from Him. Apart from Him we are all useless. And worse than worthless . . . wicked. We would fly into nothingness without His sustenance, and we would degenerate into devils without His grace.

If the totality of our dependence on God would hit us full force, how differently we would live and do good. We would “serve as one who renders service by the strength which God supplies.” We would not boast in our achievements, nor criticize the speck in our brother’s eye, nor grumble about inconveniences, nor be presumptuous in any way, as if even existence itself could be taken for granted!

A person who truly owns up to the fact that he exists by the word of God, that all his strength and moral resolve is a gift of God, that person will have a spirit of joy and gratitude and lowliness. And in serving this way, God gets the glory.

Let’s fulfill our very purpose and walk in the joy of the Lord, “so that the name of our Lord Jesus may be glorified in us,  and us in Him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.


Though you have not seen him, you love him; and even though you do not see him now, you believe in him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy, for you are receiving the end result of your faith, the salvation of your souls. 1 Peter 1:8-9

2023·05·20 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

News Flash

Today, it is still the case that Joe Biden didn’t Win.

I realize that to some readers, this might be a shock; surely at some point things must change and Biden will have actually won.

But the past cannot actually be changed.

It will always and forever be the case that Joe Biden didn’t win.

And if you, Leftist Lurker, want to dismiss it as dead white cis-male logic…well, you can call it what you want, but then please just go fuck off. No one here buys that bullshit–logic is logic and facts are facts regardless of skin color–and if you gave it a moment’s rational thought, you wouldn’t either. Of course your worthless education never included being able to actually reason–or detect problems with false reasoning–so I don’t imagine you’ll actually wake up as opposed to being woke.

As Ayn Rand would sometimes point out: Yes, you are free to evade reality. What you cannot do is evade the consequences of evading reality. Or to put it concretely: You can ignore the Mack truck bearing down on you as you play in the middle of the street, you won’t be able to ignore the consequences of ignoring the Mack truck.

And Ayn Rand also pointed out that existence (i.e., the sum total of everything that exists) precedes consciousness–our consciousnesses are a part of existence, not outside of it–therefore reality cannot be a “social construct” as so many of you fucked-up-in-the-head people seem to think.

So much for Leftist douchebag lurkers. For the rest of you, the regular readers and those lurkers who understand such things: I continue to carry the banner once also carried by Wheatie. His Fraudulency didn’t win.

Let’s Go, Brandon!!

Hey China!

Or rather, “Hey Chinese Communist Party and your entire array of servitors, ass-wipers, and fellators!”

You’re not even worth my time this week. When you decide to act like civilized people, maybe I’ll give you a lesson or two in how non-barbarians behave.

Hey BiteMe!
(Or, Whoever Has Their Hand Rammed Up That Putrefying Meat Puppet’s Ass)

[Language warning]

You and yours have caused a lot of injury. Literal injury with your war on people who don’t want to take an untested vaccine. When people die in an emergency room because a hospital won’t admit them because they haven’t had their clot shot, that’s a crime.

I’m going to address here the insult on top of the injury, because I am among the insulted. I still have my health but apparently you want me to live under the 8th Street Bridge (which actually isn’t on 8th Street, but whatever, that’s what the I-25 overpass over Cimarron is called), so maybe if you have your way that won’t be true for long. Dreadful time of year to become homeless.

No, you’re just trying to make me unemployed, because I won’t take your fucking shots.

Well, that threat is NOT going to work. I. Won’t. Take. Your. Fucking. Shots.

And it looks like enough people agree, that you’re having to back down, you worthless asswipe.

You’re LOSING.

You LOSER.

You Chinese-bought ratfucking traitor.

I would love to see you die an agonizing, humiliating death. (This isn’t a threat, because I am not threatening to cause that death. I am just announcing my intention to party if it happens.) It would be just recompense for the way you’re killing America…and millions of Americans.

His Fraudulency

Joe Biteme, properly styled His Fraudulency, continues to infest the White House, we haven’t heard much from the person who should have been declared the victor, and hopium is still being dispensed even as our military appears to have joined the political establishment in knuckling under to the fraud.

One can hope that all is not as it seems.

I’d love to feast on that crow.

(I’d like to add, I find it entirely plausible, even likely, that His Fraudulency is also His Figureheadedness. (Apparently that wasn’t a word; it got a red underline. Well it is now.) Where I differ with the hopium addicts is on the subject of who is really in charge. It ain’t anyone we like.)

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

Tranheuser Busch

Those asshats either get the world, all time record for obtuseness…or this is deliberate somehow. And their namby pamby non-apology that amounts to a “We’re sorry you’re too much of a knuckledragger to appreciate what we did” simply underscores the stupid. It’d be like a 400 pound golfer wearing spikes tromping on your instep and being utterly clueless why you are screaming in pain.

Me

I wrote that five weeks ago, and they are casting about now trying to figure out how to get people to come back. However the one thing that might work (an abject admission that they were wrong to even think of doing this) is the one thing they cannot do. Because the decision makers are woke and cannot conceive that they were actually fuckheadedly wrong to do this.

Spot Prices.

Kitco Ask. Last week:

Gold $2,011.50
Silver $24.05
Platinum $1,058.00
Palladium $1,538.00
Rhodium $8,300.00

This week, markets closed as of 3PM MT.

Gold $1,978.70
Silver $23.93
Platinum $1,073.00
Palladium $1,548.00
Rhodium $7,900.00

Wow, gold and silver have been taking a beating lately! Market manipulation? Or just fake good news about the dollar?

The Number e

I brought this up a bit in my post on rocket science…but I want to hit it a bit harder this time. The number e is one of the most important in mathematics, at least as important as pi (π). And like π, it’s one of those annoying numbers that goes on forever after the decimal point, without falling into a repeating pattern.

It is approximately equal to: 2.718281828, but don’t be fooled, that “1828” only repeats once. The number goes on as: 2.71828182845904523536028747135266249775724709369995…

It’s used in exponential functions (ex) as well as logarithms, which is a curious thing.

(A logarithm is just the reverse of an exponential function. An exponential function represents the question, “what is e raised to some particular given power?” For example if the power is 2, the exponential is equal to e x e or 7.389056… A logarithmic function, on the other hand, represents the question, “to what power must I raise e to get a particular number” so that the logarithm of 7.39056… is 2.)

In both cases e is called the base of the exponential (or the logarithm).

If you’re going to go raising some number to the power of x, or computing the logarithm, wouldn’t it make sense to have a base be some nice clean number like, say, ten, instead of this number that only some schroom user would conjure up?

Where the heck does this e number come from?

Well, the story starts with interest.

(And any of my detractors reading this will note I finally wrote something with some interest in it.)

Put a dollar in the bank. This is a very unusual bank though; they pay 100% annual interest.

So you’d expect after a year, your dollar is now two dollars. Let it ride, and a year later (two years total) it is now four dollars. A year after that, it’s eight dollars, and so on.

But that assumes they calculate the interest only after one year has passed.

It’s actually much more common to compute (and pay) interest more often than that. As an example, let’s go with every six months.

After six months, half a year has passed, and so the interest paid should be 100 x ½ = 50 percent. So you get paid 50 cents after six months. After a year, another 50 cents, right? Wrong! Because the interest should be paid not on a dollar but on $1.50. So that payment should be 75 cents, not just 50 cents. And now your balance stands not at $2 as you might expect, but rather $2.25.

Clearly it’s quite beneficial to have interest paid as often as possible because it compounds like this. You’re being paid interest, on the interest you have been paid.

If this is done monthly, you get paid 8⅓ cents in interest the first month, then 9.02 cents the second month, etc. At the end of the year, you have $2.613035… in the bank account (and the banker will round to $2.61). If daily (and not a leap year), your first day’s interest payment is $0.002739726… cents (and the 02739726 repeats forever). After a year of compounding this tiny amount every day, you end up with a balance after the first year of $2.714567… which again the banker will round down to $2.71 should you withdraw it.

Note that going from annual to monthly gave you 61 cents more interest after a year, but going from monthly to daily only added a tiny bit over ten cents on top of that. Clearly the more finely you divide up your year, the smaller the additional benefit.

There’s a mathematical formula here to figure out how much interest you should get, given the rate for some time period and the number of subdivisions in that time period. We’ve simplified things a lot for these examples. Here’s the general formula without any of the simplifications (don’t worry, I’ll simplify it shortly):

{\displaystyle A=P\left(1+{\frac {r}{n}}\right)^{nt}}

A is the total balance after all of the interest has been paid. P is the principal…which in our example has been one dollar. The rate is r, in our example it has been 100% but 100% is equivalent to 1. Finally, n is the number of subdivisions, be it 12 or 365 or whatever. And t is the number of time periods. We’ve been just considering one year, once, so that is one also. Plugging all of these numbers in (except for n, because that’s the number we’ve been changing) we’re dealing with:

A = 1(1+1/n)n1

Or getting rid of all the redundant ones:

A = (1+1/n)n

So that’s the formula for the simplified cases I’ve been using as examples.

You can try different values of n with a calculator and verify the formula matches what I’ve been saying (not that that’s a rigorous proof), or you can puzzle it through and realize the formula describes the situation.

What happens if you make n very, very large…i.e., compound your interest lots and lots of times over the course of the year?

As it turns out the higher you raise n, the closer A gets to e. But you can’t make n infinity directly; because then the formula just becomes 1 raised to the power of infinity and the trend collapses. But you can stuff a gigantic number (like a 1 followed by a trillion zeros) in and you’ll get an answer very, very, very close to e.

The more frequently you do the compounding, the closer you get to continuously compounding, and the answer to that is, basically, e.

So you can go back to the original (unsimplified) formula, and turn it into a continuously compounding formula:

A = Pert

Where r is the rate (expressed as a fraction, not in percent), t is the number of periods of interest paid, and P is the starting principal. Of course, r and t can (and probably will be) non-whole numbers. So you have the odd situation of raising a number you can’t even express as a fraction, to a power that’s not an integer. Fortunately there are ways to deal with this.

Very fortunate, because mathematicians find that e is the “natural” choice for a base for both logarithms and exponentials, in fact the logarithm base e is the “natural logarithm” and is notated ln so going back to my example earlier, ln(7.389056) is 2. And when a mathematician talks about the exponential function, he means ex, not 10x or 2x or anything else. exp(2) is 7.389056. (In both cases, approximately!)

As it turns out, e shows up in all kinds of places in mathematics you wouldn’t expect to see it. I’m going to get to some in future posts perhaps, but here’s another as a bonus.

Let’s say you go to Vegas, and play the roulette wheel. You place a dollar on your lucky number, and you have one chance in 37 to win. (The numbers 1-36, plus the zero, are all equally likely outcomes.)

You lose, of course. You try again. And again, and again…37 times total.

What are the chances that you will never win any of those 37 times? Greater than zero, certainly. There’s no guarantee that your number will come up in the next two hundred spins of the wheel, much less the next 37 spins.

In general, the problem is like this: You have one chance in n of winning, and you try n times. For one trial, you chance of not winning is 1-1/n, i.e., the complement of your 1/n chance of winning. For your roulette wheel, it’s 36/37ths. For two trials, you can square that, (1-1/n)(1-1/n). And for more times, you raise (1-1/n) to that power. So for n times, it’s (1-1/n)n.

Which should look familiar.

It’s almost the same as that compound interest term, only it has a minus sign in it instead of a plus sign.

And it turns out if you make n really, really large in this formula (without going to infinity), you end up with 1/e. In other words, if it’s something very very unlikely, a one in a million chance but you play that same number of times (a million times), you have one chance in e of not winning ever. (Think about that as you play the lotto…if you do. One chance in 100,000,000? Well you might not win even if you play a hundred million times.)

OK, I said it was “natural” for mathematicians to use e for a base. Why is that? Well…it involves calculus. If that made your eyes glaze over just skip to the next paragraph. Suffice it to say, if you plot ex on graph paper, and want to know what the slope of the line is anywhere…the slope is ex. And the total area under that curve, up to x, is also ex. That sounds arcane to people who haven’t taken calculus, but to a calc student, it means that ex is its own derivative, the only function that has that property.

OK, so that’s an intro to the number e. A very inadequate one and certainly not terribly rigorous. But as I said it shows up in all kinds of odd places. More on that later.

The big question is whether this post had any interest.

Obligatory PSAs and Reminders

China is Lower than Whale Shit

Remember Hong Kong!!!

Whoever ends up in the cell next to his, tell him I said “Hi.”

中国是个混蛋 !!!
Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!!
China is asshoe !!!

China is in the White House

Since Wednesday, January 20 at Noon EST, the bought-and-paid for His Fraudulency Joseph Biden has been in the White House. It’s as good as having China in the Oval Office.

Joe Biden is Asshoe

China is in the White House, because Joe Biden is in the White House, and Joe Biden is identically equal to China. China is Asshoe. Therefore, Joe Biden is Asshoe.

But of course the much more important thing to realize:

Joe Biden Didn’t Win

乔*拜登没赢 !!!
Qiáo Bài dēng méi yíng !!!
Joe Biden didn’t win !!!

CALM DOWN! Miller Lite Got It Right, At Least The History of Women in Brewing And Bikinis

Before going any farther, remember:

“THEY” want us divided.

And with the reaction to Miller Lite’s new ad regarding women in brewing, the day after men everywhere celebrated their mothers, it seems that priming the audience to a knife’s edge to see “wokeness” and trannies everywhere is at an all time high. And it’s dividing us.

For those who are late to the party, all the hub-bub is about this ad which dropped today and is being called “stupid” and “repetitive”:

First off, let us review history as brought to us by Smithsonian Magazine:

Humans have been drinking beer for almost 7,000 years, and the original brewers were women. From the Vikings to the Egyptians, women brewed beer both for religious ceremonies and to make a practical, calorie-rich beverage for the home.

In fact, the nun Hildegard von Bingen, who lived in modern-day Germany, famously wrote about hops in the 12th century and added the ingredient to her beer recipe.

From the Stone Age to the 1700s, ale – and, later, beer – was a household staple for most families in England and other parts of Europe. The drink was an inexpensive way to consume and preserve grains. For the working class, beer provided an important source of nutrients, full of carbohydrates and proteins. Because the beverage was such a common part of the average person’s diet, fermenting was, for many women, one of their normal household tasks.

Some enterprising women took this household skill to the marketplace and began selling beer. Widows or unmarried women used their fermentation prowess to earn some extra money, while married women partnered with their husbands to run their beer business.

So if you traveled back in time to the Middle Ages or the Renaissance and went to a market in England, you’d probably see an oddly familiar sight: women wearing tall, pointy hats. In many instances, they’d be standing in front of big cauldrons.

But these women were no witches; they were brewers.

They wore the tall, pointy hats so that their customers could see them in the crowded marketplace. They transported their brew in cauldrons. And those who sold their beer out of stores had cats not as demon familiars, but to keep mice away from the grain. Some argue that iconography we associate with witches, from the pointy hat to the cauldron, originated from women working as master brewers.

Just as women were establishing their foothold in the beer markets of England, Ireland and the rest of Europe, the Reformation began. The fundamentalist religious movement, which originated in the early 16th century, preached stricter gender norms and condemned witchcraft.

Male brewers saw an opportunity. To reduce their competition in the beer trade, these men accused female brewers of being witches and using their cauldrons to brew up magic potions instead of booze.

Unfortunately, the rumors took hold.

Over time, it became more dangerous for women to practice brewing and sell beer because they could be misidentified as witches. At the time, being accused of witchcraft wasn’t just a social faux pas; it could result in prosecution or a death sentence. Women accused of witchcraft were often ostracized in their communities, imprisoned or even killed.

Some men didn’t really believe that the women brewers were witches. However, many did believe that women shouldn’t be spending their time making beer. The process took time and dedication: hours to prepare the ale, sweep the floors clean and lift heavy bundles of rye and grain. If women couldn’t brew ale, they would have significantly more time at home to raise their children. In the 1500s some towns, such as Chester, England, actually made it illegal for most women to sell beer, worried that young alewives would grow up into old spinsters.

With those stricter gender norms, came the confiscation of convents, and women who were previously physicians, musicians, poets, brewers, etc., were told that they MUST be wives and mothers exclusively, but that’s a post for another time.

So, we have it established then, that before the commercialization of mass produced beer via mechanization and the assembly line models of production, women were kicked out of the beer business in some places. Don’t get me wrong on the big breweries: they are marvels of innovation. I live less than ten miles from one of the world’s largest and it is something to behold, but beer began as small batches as part of a woman’s work in the home.

From what some of us saw, that was the point of the Miller Lite ad. It gives a history lesson told by real women as many of us really look. Unlike with the Bud Light debacle, there were no trannies involved, nor were there scantily clad models. In fact, the scantily clad models – eye candy for men – were really rather denigrated by the real women. Most of us don’t look like that and would never entertain wearing a bikini.

Why these sorts of ads are coming out now might well be explained by a response to the ad itself:

That being the case, of all of the “go woke” campaigns started of late, this one may be the least objectionable. At least there are no actual trannies, and someone finally objected to women in bikinis or scantily clad in advertising and atmospheres targeted at men.

I’m no feminist, but that has been a pet peeve for a long time.

What was striking about today’s experience with this ad and the reaction to it was just how much vitriol there was. It was like so many conservatives were on a hair trigger with the trans stuff being in our faces for over a month. People are seeing “woke” everywhere, even when, for once with these social credit scores, the truth is being told. Men from all corners of the internet claim the target market was insulted. How?

And what exactly is woke about telling history, and explaining how compost – even if profanity was used unnecessarily to describe it – helps to produce the grains needed to brew the product?

Is there a real problem with women being entrepreneurs in the microbrew business?

Before just condemning the whole micro-episode in the woke agenda implosion, those are questions worth asking.

P.S. St. Hildegard von Bingen mentioned in the Smithsonian article is worth a look for those interested in the history of the Middle Ages. She was a VERY accomplished woman.

Dear MAGA: 20230514 Open Topic

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On this day and every day –

God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up


Hopefully, every Sunday, we can find something here that will build us up a little . . . give us a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.

“This day is holy to the Lord your God;
do not mourn nor weep.” . . .
“Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet,
and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared;
for this day is holy to our Lord.
Do not sorrow,
for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”


Glory to God 3

GLORIFY GOD BY DECLARING HIS GLORY

God’s Word tells us that all of creation declares His glory. In fact, we read in Psalm 19:1-4 saying “The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims His handiwork. Day to day pours out speech, and night to night reveals knowledge. There is no speech, nor are there words, whose voice is not heard. Their voice goes our through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world.”

If all of creation declare the glory of God, then there is even more of an obligation for us to glorify God. This is because we are made in the image of God, we are His image-bearers. If we are image-bearers of God, then we need to declare His glory. The way to declare His glory is not just to be an image-bearer but also display Him in our every action, word and deed.

Proclaiming God’s glory to the world always begins by taking a look at our own hearts. We cannot declare that God is above every other name if “we” are still on the throne of our hearts and not God. We cannot proclaim His excellencies and then seek personal selfish gain, success, approval and affirmation from others etc. Declaring of God’s glory starts with our humility. It begins with a life of sacrifice to the One who has given up everything for us.

When we set Christ as number one in our lives and in our hearts, then we are set free to magnify Jesus. It is only when we set our eyes on the Lord Jesus Christ who freed us from the weight of sin and death and when our whole lives become about Him, that in this freedom we find the life that we were always meant for, to glorify God and to declare His Glory to the world.

Notice that we cannot achieve this in our own strength, it must be the work of the Holy Spirit in our lives. Romans 11 says “For from Him and through Him and to Him are all things.” The ability to glorify God and honor Him only comes through the transforming power of the Holy Spirit. So allow Christ into our lives, so that we may surrender our life to God in order to declare His glory in everything we do.

1 Peter 4:11 says “whoever speaks, as one who speaks oracles of God; whoever serves as one who serves by the strength God supplied – in order that in everything God may be glorified through Jesus Christ. To Him belong glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.”

In order to declare the Glory of God, we must also produce the fruit of our salvation and display of the work of the Holy Spirit in our lives. For example, when we plant a fruit tree in our garden, we have high expectations of it to produce the fruit of its kind. If it is an apple tree, then we would expect the tree to produce apples. When the tree is full of apple’s and the tree is overhanging with abundant fruit, then people look at the tree and speak of the goodness of the tree.

This is the same for the children of God. In order for us to flourish like well-watered plants and to produce the kinds of fruit that declare the glory of God, there are some things we must allow God to do in our lives. Let’s continue to look at the analogy of a tree. If we have a green thumb, we will know some of the secrets of producing more fruit from our garden plants.

When a new tree is planted, before we even begin to try encourage fruiting on a tree, we need to make sure that the plant is old enough and healthy enough to bear the load. Usually standard fruit trees need anywhere from 5 to 7 years before they are ready to produce. In a similar way for us to produce the fruit of Christ in our lives, what we require is time, and time for us to mature in Christ.

There is a requirement of patience. James 1:4 says “And let steadfastness have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete lacking in nothing.”  What is meant by steadfastness is patience and perseverance. There is a requirement to grow in order to produce fruit.

There are many scriptures in God’s Word that describe the need to grow and mature spiritually. Ephesians 4:15 says “we are to grow up in every way into Him who is the head, into Christ,” and again in 2 Peter 3:18 saying “But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.” Ultimately this is what is pleasing to God. In fact, Jesus Himself says in John 15:8 “By this my Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit and so prove to be my disciples.”

Then there is a requirement for pruning. Fruit trees ideally need to be trained in their first few years of growth into the shape we want them to maintain throughout their productive lives. In a similar fashion, in order to declare the glory of God, we need to maintain a certain shape. An outward proof of the internal change and this is the shape that declares the glory of God. In order to do this, there must be pruning.

Pruning involves getting rid of those things in our lives that are not of God and that don’t contribute to our lives in Christ. It can sometimes be a painful process, where God may discipline us, mold us and make us into the person that declares the glory of God. The end result of the pruning is a beautiful tree with abundant fruits, and the end results of God’s pruning in our lives is a life that shouts out and declares the glory of God through our person.

Ephesians 4:22-32 gives us instruction on exactly what must be pruned in our lives. It says “…put off your old self which belongs to your former manner of life and corrupt through deceitful desires, and to be renewed in the spirit of your minds, and to put on the new self, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness. Therefore, having put away falsehood, let each one of you speak the truth with his neighbor, for we are members of one another. When angry, do not sin; do not let the sun go down on your anger, and give no opportunity to the devil. Let the thief no longer steal, but rather let him labor, doing honest work with his own hands, so that he may have something to share with anyone in need. Let no corrupt talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear. And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you, along with all malice. Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.”

Once this pruning takes place, then we begin to see the fruits of the Spirit, as it says in Galatians 5:22-24 “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.”

God’s Word is very clear in explaining to us what the fruits of a follower of Christ are. Our example is Christ Himself. If a believers behavior contradicts what the word says, he is not really transformed in Christ. In fact the scriptures tell us that if we declare Jesus Christ as Lord and have a relationship with Him but still walk in the darkness of disobedience then we need to test ourselves to see whether we are truly regenerate. 1 John 1:6 says “If we say we have fellowship with Him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.”

We also need good soil for our fruit bearing plant to maximize its output. In a similar fashion we need to cultivate and nurture ourselves which is an intentional move towards seeking and cultivating our hearts to allow the spiritual seed in us to grow and develop. Jesus tells us that those who cultivate good soil in their hearts will result in hearing the word, accepting it and then finally producing thirty, sixty or even a hundred times what was sown.

This is the person whose heart is not hard, receiving the word of God into their lives and working the soil of their hearts, ploughing it, weeding it and fertilizing it and so becoming productive, whose end is abundant fruit that declares the glory of God to all those surrounding it and far beyond its reaches. Amen.

So let us be united with Christ and as it says in 2 Peter 1:4 “…become partakers of the divine nature,” through the work of the Holy Spirit in us that we boldly declare the glory of God to all those around us and fulfill the purpose for which we are made.


2023·05·13 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

Language Warning

In the next piece I had to discuss a particular topic. Unfortunately, I couldn’t discuss it without naming it. Therefore I apologize in advance for having to do so, and apologize to anyone offended by the sight of the name.

RINO McDaniel

RINO McDaniel continues to infest the GOP. But RINO McDaniel isn’t the problem.

Let me be crystal clear on this, RINO McDaniel is a lower-than-whale-shit, piss guzzling ratfucking shit eating traitorous rancid syphillitic cunt. Her worth as a human being is substantially less than zero, any oxygen sucked into her lungs is wasted, and it would be, no matter what job she had.

I fear I haven’t been clear enough, but that will have to suffice.

But she is not the problem…or rather, she would not be a problem were it not for others. She’d still be as I have described, but we wouldn’t know who she is and would not care, because she could do no damage. She’d just be anonymous human refuse.

No, the real problem is the fact that a majority of the 168 top GOP people voted for her. And now that has happened five times so they cannot claim they didn’t know what she was.

In spite of the fact that under her “leadership” the party has deliberately sabotaged the will of its base, has deliberately refused to challenge blatant election fraud, had gone out of its way to ensure certain candidates do not get nominated, has diverted donor money to namby-pamby candidates who have all the electoral appeal of a puddle of dog vomit…and in general has done nothing whatsoever to help fix the problems that plague America.

However that last is to be expected; I cannot expect anyone who IS the problem to help FIX the problem.

RINO McDaniel would be powerless without an entire party leadership of the same mind as her. They want this dismal performance; they want to ignore the party base.

If she were to drop dead this instant, it would solve nothing as someone just like her would be elected by those same pustulous people.

According to Charlie Kirk, about 55 people voted against her, 10-12 wanted something different but were too chickenshit to do the right thing, and roughly 100 people voted for her enthusiastically, and even had the unmitigated gall to complain to Kirk about US. Fuck ’em. Rusty 12 gauge bore brushes would be too good for these arrogant pricks and cunts.

Every single one of those hundred is just as bad as she is. In other words, they are all worse than I described at the beginning of this piece. And no doubt those people in turn have people who supported them to be state party chairs and whateveritis they call the other two people from each state and territory who were voting.

It’s time to face up to the fact that the Republican party is effectively owned by the shit-eating RINOs. We’ve got more work to do, a lot more work, to make the GOP an instrument for the restoration of the United States of America. And that’s in addition to cleaning up our elections.

There’s no point in cleaning up elections just to elect ratfucking RINOs.

OK, hopefully now you will have some inkling of my true attitude towards RINOs. Sorry that words were inadequate to give you the full picture.

The Real Fascist is His Fraudulency Joe Biden*

*Or whoever has his hand rammed up that meat puppet’s ass.

Brandon (which I will use as a term for whoever is the power behind the Porcelain Throne) has thrown down the gauntlet…but in a way where most of America will never see it. The networks didn’t carry his tirade. CNN air brushed it (or whatever you call editing the red background) for its five viewers (who aren’t trapped in airports).

Luckily for me I live in Colorado, and therefore, despite my best efforts, I probably didn’t vote for Donald Trump.

Of course, for this purpose who I actually did try to vote for will be essential, and they undoubtedly know.

Come and get us, asswipes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h6ZZ28QtX4

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

Small Government?

Many times conservatives (real and fake) speak of “small government” being the goal.

This sounds good, and mostly is good, but it misses the essential point. The important thing here isn’t the size, but rather the purpose, of government. We could have a cheap, small tyranny. After all our government spends most of its revenue on payments to individuals and foreign aid, neither of which is part of the tyrannical apparatus trying to keep us locked down and censored. What parts of the government would be necessary for a tyranny? It’d be a lot smaller than what we have now. We could shrink the government and nevertheless find it more tyrannical than it is today.

No, what we want is a limited government, limited not in size, but rather in scope. Limited, that is, in what it’s allowed to do. Under current circumstances, such a government would also be much smaller, but that’s a side effect. If we were in a World War II sort of war, an existential fight against nasty dictatorships on the brink of world conquest, that would be very expensive and would require a gargantuan government, but that would be what the government should be doing. That would be a large, but still limited government, since it’d be working to protect our rights.

World War II would have been the wrong time to squawk about “small government,” but it wasn’t (and never is) a bad time to demand limited government. Today would be a better time to ask for a small government–at least the job it should be doing is small today–but it misses the essential point; we want government to not do certain things. Many of those things we don’t want it doing are expensive but many of them are quite eminently doable by a smaller government than the one we have today. Small, but still exceeding proper limits.

So be careful what you ask for. You might get it and find you asked for the wrong thing.

Political Science In Summation

It’s really just a matter of people who can’t be happy unless they control others…versus those who want to be left alone. The oldest conflict within mankind. Government is necessary, but government attracts the assholes (a highly technical term for the control freaks).

A Few Things We Cannot Blame on His Fraudulency

I am pretty sure Joe Biden had nothing whatsoever to do with the 30 Years War that ran from 1618-1648 and probably killed about a third of the people then living in what is now Germany.

Nor did he cause the collapse of either Roman empire (Western, 476 CE, Eastern 1453 CE). Nor the ignominious failure of most of the Crusades. Nor the collapse of Bronze Age civilization around 1200 BCE (including the collapse of the Minoans and the blowup of Santorini).

However, my utter lack of ability to imagine how he could possibly be responsible for these things is not a valid argument against them, so I await correction if appropriate.

His Truth?

Again we saw an instance of “It might be true for Billy, but it’s not true for Bob” logic this week.

I hear this often, and it’s usually harmless. As when it’s describing differing circumstances, not different facts. “Housing is unaffordable” can be true for one person, but not for another who makes ten times as much.

But sometimes the speaker means it literally. Something like 2+2=4 is asserted to be true for Billy but not for Bob. (And when it’s literal, it’s usually Bob saying it.) And in that sense, it’s nonsense, dangerous nonsense. There is ONE reality, and it exists independent of our desires and our perceptions. It would go on existing if we weren’t here. We exist in it. It does not exist in our heads. It’s not a personal construct, and it isn’t a social construct. If there were no society, reality would continue to be what it is, it wouldn’t vanish…which it would have to do, if it were a social construct.

Now what can change from person to person is the perception of reality. We see that all the time. And people will, of course, act on those perceptions. They will vote for Trump (or try to) if their perception is close to mine, and vote against Trump (and certainly succeed at doing so) if their perception is distant from mine (and therefore, if I do say so, wrong). I have heard people say “perception is reality” and usually, that’s what they’re trying to say–your perception of reality is, as far as you know, an accurate representation of reality, or you’d change it.

But I really wish they’d say it differently. And sometimes, to get back to Billy and Bob, the person who says they have different truths is really saying they have different perceptions of reality–different worldviews. I can’t argue with the latter. But I sure wish they’d say it better. That way I’d know that someone who blabbers about two different truths is delusional and not worth my time, at least not until he passes kindergarten-level metaphysics on his umpteenth attempt.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

(Paper) Spot Prices

Kitco “Ask” prices. Last week:

Gold $2,018.60
Silver $25.77
Platinum $1070.00
Palladium $1,567.00
Rhodium $8,600.00

This week, 3PM Mountain Time, markets have closed for the weekend.

Gold $2,011.50
Silver $24.05
Platinum $1,058.00
Palladium $1,538.00
Rhodium $8,300.00

Gold again came close to all time highs midweek but has been pushed back. It’s roughly back to where it was. Silver is well down since last week. The platinum group metals are all down…not as much as silver but in each case over a percent.

Beethoven Eroica

The entirety of Beethoven’s 3rd Symphony is worthwhile. It’s a bit “dark” in the way that Trump’s inauguration speech wasn’t (at least not to us–he was threatening them with a well-deserved asskicking so of course it was dark to them). But here are some highlights, first from the second movement:

If you can hang in there from the starting point, and get to 9:48…the gloves come off as one YT commenter put it.

Fourth movement, a theme that always made me imagine a righteous asskicking (so long as we’re discussing such)…so not quite as dark.

Obligatory PSAs and Reminders

China is Lower than Whale Shit

Remember Hong Kong!!!

https://youtube.com/watch?v=L3tnH4FGbd0

中国是个混蛋 !!!
Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!!
China is asshoe !!!

China is in the White House

Since Wednesday, January 20 at Noon EST, the bought-and-paid for His Fraudulency Joseph Biden has been in the White House. It’s as good as having China in the Oval Office.

Joe Biden is Asshoe

China is in the White House, because Joe Biden is in the White House, and Joe Biden is identically equal to China. China is Asshoe. Therefore, Joe Biden is Asshoe.

But of course the much more important thing to realize:

Joe Biden Didn’t Win

乔*拜登没赢 !!!
Qiáo Bài dēng méi yíng !!!
Joe Biden didn’t win !!!

Progressive Education and the Destruction of America: PART 2

With Part 1 as a foundation, fast forward to the critical decade of the 1970s. Especially 1974 where you had the classified 1974 CIA Report, the Rockefeller Commission Report (1972), the National Security Study Memorandum (1974) and the 1973-4 Oil crisis that doubled the price of oil –> SEE: THE ROCKEFELLER CONNECTION

This dig started from a MichealH comment:

….In many cases, “science” has become about extreme proof, you can’t know something unless you have Cartesian Certainty about it. Too much money is wasted creating double-blind experiments and seeking “gold-standard” academic proofs. This is a boon for grant money but does nothing to move the needle on human advancement. This kind of “science” is about controlling truth because high burdens of proof require grant money to demonstrate with is controlled by the gatekeepers, and if something does get past them, they can get a grant to prove with “science” conclusively that the opposite of what is true is true, and put those out-of-line researchers back in their place.

In poking around looking for something else, I came across a series of comments I made on Tony Heller’s site in September of 2015 : The World’s Top Climate Scientist Is A Complete Moron

Those comments have a major connection to what MichealH observed. They show a switch in attitude of the US government in the early 1970s. I have updated and add more information.

As my previous articles in the Depopulation Series displays, the early 1970s is when the Cabal realized the earth was headed into a possible Ice Age and used that to scare world leaders into going along with their Depopulation agenda. The classified National Security Study Memorandum NSSM 200 aka the 1974 Kissinger Report reveals Rockefeller mouth piece Kissinger was talking Global COOLING to world leaders while another Rockefeller mouth piece, Maurice Strong was screaming about Global Warming at the First Earth Summit (1972) to the public. Also do not forget it was Kissinger who PICKED Klaus Scwab to organize the World Economic Forum in 1971, the year Nixon took the USA off the Gold Standard.

Henry Kissinger and Nelson Rockefeller, January 1975

To make the masses BELIEVE in the Global Warming LIE the cabal had to CONTROL SCIENCE. Remember in 1976 Hays and Shacklton published the paper with concrete evidence to support Milankovitch’s theory. They were not the first but their paper was the most accepted. SEE: Ice Ages Confirmed

These old comments of mine show how it was done.

2015 comment:

Sea Level rise is one of the sticks used to beat the public over the head. A new (1998) paper Near-field hydro-isostasy: the implementation of a revised sea-level equation came out and NASA jumped on it:

 Glacial Isostatic Adjustment: A Survey of Recent Studies (now removed)

ARCHIVED: https://web.archive.org/web/20040112111629/http://bowie.gsfc.nasa.gov/ggfc/sbm_gla.html

COMMENT: I am still trying to make heads or tails of the Bafflegab, but it looks like they found a new way to adjust sea level rise ”.. the existing sea-level equation incorrectly predicts the change in sea level (and thus the ocean load) in ice-covered, subgeoidal geographic regions during periods of deglaciation…”

…..

Since I wrote that in 2015, the archived articles have been changed to:

…the authors suggest that this effect would be extremely large, large enough so as to entirely invalidate all previous analyses that had been performed using the “sea level equation” formalism first developed in the work of Peltier (1974…”

2001: https://web.archive.org/web/20010309133151/http://bowie.gsfc.nasa.gov/ggfc/sbm_gla.html

2013 (Last time saved): https://web.archive.org/web/20130218010711/http://bowie.gsfc.nasa.gov/ggfc/sbm_gla.html

This is a bit of a face slap since it SHOWS the Cabal goes back into the web archive AND CHANGES THE ARTICLES! And now we find the Cabal goes in and scrubs recent articles it deems dangerous like those Jon Harold managed to find about Blinken’s connection to the Aspen Institute during the time of the Hunter Laptop = Russian Disinfo tabletop exercise.

….

Back to 2015 comments:

What was interesting was when I tried to follow up on a pointer to:
(wwwDOT)homepage.montana.edu/~geol445/hyperglac/isostasy1/%20%5C%5C%20Rates returns

Sorry….homepage.montana.edu 7Egeol445 hyperglac isostasy1 20 5C 5C 20Rates’ does not exist or is not available.”

So I poked around and found Isostasy and Postglacial Rebound “This resource is no longer officially part of our collection ….” referring to cleanet in the URL.

So I continued poking around and I found it had been removed by the CLEAN project.

The Climate Literacy and Energy Awareness Network (CLEAN) Portal was launched in 2010 as a National Science Digital Library (NSDL) Pathways project. It is led by the science education expertise of TERC


So who the heck is this TERC that is removing web pages? — TERC is based in Cambridge, MA. NOTE: Cambridge is so far to the left that a communist party member (a friend) had to register as a republican so the polls could open!

2023 comment:

That is the archived page from 2015. Seems TERC has this new page

History

In 1965, Arthur Nelson and a small group of co-founders established the Technical Education Research Centers. During its early years, TERC focused on various aspects of technical and occupational education, primarily at the post secondary level. In the early 1970s, TERC successfully initiated a series of projects that marked a transition from post secondary technical education to K-12 science. Today we are known as TERC. This change embraces the development of our education initiatives through the years and the learners we serve, including those in K-12 classrooms, museums, after school programs, community colleges, adult education centers, universities, and other research institutions.

Organizational Structure

Currently, TERC’s staff of 104—including nationally recognized leaders in educational research and curriculum development—are actively engaged in over 70 projects and 62% of staff have advanced degrees in science, mathematics, engineering, education, psychology, and technology. In 2013 TERC had $13.5 million in revenue. Each year, TERC’s products and services reach more than 3.5 million students throughout the United States.

TERC’s research and development projects are housed within three centers—the Center for School Reform, the Center for Science Teaching and Learning, the STEM Education Evaluation Center—and the Education Research Collaborative division.

….

Another 2023 dig:

Arthur Nelson [1923 – 2015] Obit

For over 65 years, Arthur Nelson was one of Boston’s leading entrepreneurs founding over twenty diverse Massachusetts companies in technology, real estate, international management, and education…. Among the companies he founded were Associates for International Research, Inc. (AIRINC), Technical Education Research Centers (TERC), and The Nelson Companies…  He also co- founded over a dozen non-profit organizations, many of them in Waltham, including the Charles River Museum of Industry, Historic Waltham, Inc., the American Innovation Institute, the Boston Computer Foundation, and the 128 Business Council. …[He] graduated from the University of Kansas in 1943 with a degree in physics. As a Naval Officer he was stationed during WWII at MIT’s “Rad Lab” working on the development of the first AWACS radar planes and high frequency radar…

Associates for International Research, Inc. (AIRINC)

Focused on workforce globalization, AIRINC provides compensation insights, allowances, technology and advice to facilitate global and domestic mobility.

Sure sounds like he was a Globalist!

Back to 2015 comment:

And following up on CLEAN (“Climate Literacy and Energy Awareness Network “)

what do I find? NOAA!

https://www.climate.gov/teaching/about-clean-climate-literacy-and-energy-awareness-network-pathway-0 [Goes to Page not found]

2015:

https://web.archive.org/web/20150906122058/https://www.climate.gov/teaching/about-clean-climate-literacy-and-energy-awareness-network-pathway-0

Teaching Climate »About CLEAN: the Climate Literacy and Energy Awareness Network Pathway
(You have to see the interactive header.)
It lists
TERC, (above)
CIRES – colorado-edu
SERC – carleton – edu
Colorado School of Mines
NSDL – National Science Digital Library
NAGT – National Association of Geoscience Teachers
NOAA
U.S. Department of Energy
NSFThe National Science Foundation, (who controls the research grants given to schools by the government.)

CLEAN cont.

Digital resources for teaching about climate and energy – resources are reviewed by educators and scientists, annotated, and aligned with standards and benchmarks.

The Teaching Climate section partnered with the Climate Literacy and Energy Awareness Network (CLEAN) to use the Climate Literacy guide to identify and integrate effective resources across different educational levels. The CLEAN framework for vetting, reviewing, and assuring scientific quality of climate and global change education materials on climate, energy and related topics will be very useful to teachers and educational systems across the nation.

CLEAN, the Climate Literacy and Energy Awareness Network Portal, was launched in 2010 as a National Science Digital Library (NSDL) Pathways project. It is led by the science education expertise of TERC, the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Science (CIRES) at the University of Colorado Boulder, the Science Education Resource Center (SERC) at Carleton College, and NOAA. CLEAN builds on the efforts of the CLEAN Network (formerly Climate Literacy Network), and the establishment of the Climate Literacy: Essential Principles of Climate Science, and the Energy Literacy Essential Principles and Fundamental Concepts of Energy Education.

CLEAN’s primary effort is to steward a collection of educational resources around energy and climate topics and foster a community that supports learning about climate and energy topics. CLEAN’s focus has been to integrate the effective use of the educational resources across all grade levels – with a particular focus on the middle-school through undergraduate levels (grades 6-16). The activities of CLEAN include…

No wonder there is a ‘97% consensus in Climate Science’’ NOTHING ELSE is ALLOWED!

I think I am going to be sick.

kentclizbe  [Ex-CIA] adds:

September 27, 2015 at 6:56 pm

“Climate Communications” staff:

Susan Joy Hassol
Susan’s Projects
Richard Somerville
Jerry Melillo
Denali Hussin

Science Advisors

Ken Caldeira
Bill Chameides
Julia Cole
Robert Corell
Simon Donner
Kerry Emanuel
Jennifer Francis
Peter Gleick
Katharine Hayhoe
Greg Holland
Mark Z. Jacobson
Daniel Kammen
Jeff Kiehl
Joan Kleypas
Chuck Kutscher
Mike MacCracken
Edward Maibach
Michael Mann
Jeff Masters
Jerry Meehl
Michael Oppenheimer
Naomi Oreskes
Jonathan Overpeck
Camille Parmesan
Stefan Rahmstorf
Eric Rignot
Barrett Rock
Paty Romero-Lankao
Terry Root
Benjamin Santer
Drew Shindell
Kevin Trenberth
Warren Washington
Spencer Weart
Don Wuebbles

– See more at: https://www.climatecommunication.org/who-we-are/staff/#sthash.nXgsbozr.dpuf


I responded:

Kent that goes back to what I wrote about Judith Curry and her business partner Peter Webster:

Judith Curry
https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2015/02/10/the-global-temperature-record-is-meaningless-garbage/#comment-489761

Peter Webster
https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2015/02/10/the-global-temperature-record-is-meaningless-garbage/#comment-489803

Webster is a member of the Aspen Global Change Institute and Climate Communication. It is a project of the Aspen Global Change Institute. https://www.agci.org/

Climate Communication is a non-profit science and outreach project supported by grants, including from the Rockefeller Brothers Fund. Climate Communication operates as a project of the Aspen Global Change Institute…

Judith Curry is no Skeptic she is a Trojan Horse introduced to the skeptic community by WUWT.

2023 comment:

AGCI History

Aspen Global Change Institute began in 1989 with the support of the US National Aeronautic and Space Administration (NASA). Conceived as an interdisciplinary center to advance scientific understanding of Earth and human systems, the formation of AGCI also anticipated the vital role this knowledge could play in helping society advance sustainability.

Under the direction of co-founder John Katzenberger, AGCI held its first summer workshop in 1990. Since then, AGCI has held over 80 workshops, gathering more than 1,900 scientists from over 40 countries. Today, AGCI’s landmark interdisciplinary workshop series continues alongside our research and technical assistance programs, each working to advance science, catalyze solutions, and nurture community.

OUR STORY

Founding

Aspen Global Change Institute (AGCI) was co-founded by Charles “Rick” Chappell and John Katzenberger in 1989 as the result of a planning workshop funded by NASA. At the workshop, experts considered the fledgling organization’s mission: to further interdisciplinary understanding of global environmental change and Earth system science. Until February 1995, when it became an independent nonprofit in its own right, AGCI operated under the nonprofit 501(c)(3) umbrella of the Windstar Foundation, an environmental organization co-founded by Tom Crum and John Denver….

Charles “Rick” Chappell is the same Charles Chappell from 12 years earlier. AGAIN note the 1970s time period.

The summary papers from a NASA Workshop conducted February 14-16, 1977, at the Utah State University, Logan, Utah

…The initial concepts from which the Workshop began its deliberations are embodied in the NASA document, “The Solar-Terrestrial Observatory as a Major Module of a Space Station: An Advocacy Document, Marshall Space Flight Center, September I, 1976 (see Appendix C). More broadly, the problems to be addressed are highlighted in the NASA Outlook for Space. George C. The specific purpose of the Workshop was to bring together specialists in the areas of solar physics, atmospheric physics, magnetospheric physics, and Sun-weather relationships in order to stimulate interdisciplinary discussions about the intertwined cause and effect relationships within the Sun-Earth system. Further, these discussions were expected to expose typical instru1 mentation requirements for exploring and ultimately exploiting these relationships….

…It is hoped that this collection will propagate further development of more comprehensive, elaborate, and refined definition of the needs and uses for a Solar-Terrestrial Observatory in such a manner as to make it a significant factor in the proper management and use of the Earth’s limited resources. The Workshop was organized by Drs. Donald J. Williams (Chairman) of the Space Environment Laboratory, NOAA, and Charles R. Chappell of the Space Sciences Laboratory. Marshall Space Flight Center, NASA. Professors Andrew F. Nagy and Peter M. Banks, Physics Department, Utah State University, were hosts….

Background Solar physics investigations have evolved to a state such that information in wavelengths and with techniques only possible from space platforms is crucial to the solution of most of the central problems in the discipline. In the recent past, observations from the OS0 satellite series and Skylab have played major roles in the development of the field; and it is envisaged that the Solar Maximum Mission and Spacelab will likewise contribute substantially to future efforts.

Background

The advent of the Shuttle/Spacelab/Space Station era in the 1980’s will provide unique opportunities for comprehensive studies of the atmosphere. Some progress has been made in understanding the Sun-Earth environmental system during the last decade, but major advances are needed before a working understanding of the basic behavior of our global weather system is obtained: the Sun-weather relations hip, the role of anthropogenic constituents on the atmosphere, the coupling of the lower and upper atmosphere, to name a few examples….

Differential absorption of Rayleigh scattered W pulses from the neutral atmosphere below 30 km, on the other hand, permits measurement of ozone and other absorbing constituents. This is just one of the instrument techniques planned for early Spacelab development that will be greatly enhanced by long-duration flight as a permanent space station….

I am sure Steve will find this old report fascinating. The paragraphs I pulled show that they were already aware of how the sun changes the climate on earth.

The reason the jet stream changes from zonal to meridional (loopy)

Δ UV ===> Δ Ozone ===> Δ Stratospheric Temperature ===> Δ tropopause height + Δ wind strength of jets and motion** + Δ strength of the stratospheric vortex + Δ Ozone hole

(Δ = Changes in)
(**Blocking phenomenon is part of Loopy jets)

I am going to go into that in more depth later in another article.

NASA Finds Sun-Climate Connection in Old Nile Records

…Alexander Ruzmaikin and Joan Feynman of NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., together with Dr. Yuk Yung of the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, Calif., have analyzed Egyptian records of annual Nile water levels collected between 622 and 1470 A.D. at Rawdah Island in Cairo. These records were then compared to another well-documented human record from the same time period: observations of the number of auroras reported per decade in the Northern Hemisphere…. The researchers found some clear links between the sun’s activity and climate variations. The Nile water levels and aurora records had two somewhat regularly occurring variations in common – one with a period of about 88 years [There is thatGleissberg solar cycle I mentioned in an earlier article] and the second with a period of about 200 years….

BIO of Charles Richard Chappell, Associate Director for Science. Marshall Space Flight Center

Dr. “Rick” Chappell is the associate director for Science at NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala. In that capacity he serves as the chief scientist for the center advising the Center director on all science and university programs while maintaining interaction with leading scientists throughout the world. He has directed research in solar terrestrial physics and has been a principal investigator on several satellite missions. In May 1994, Chappell became special assistant for Environmental programs to the NASA administrator.

👉He was assigned to the White House to implement an environmental science/education program for Vice President Al Gore.

Prior to joining NASA in 1974, Chappell was a research and staff scientist with the Lockheed Missiles and Space Company where he conducted investigations of the Earth’s space plasma environment.

From 1976 to 1985, Chappell was the mission scientist for Spacelab 1, a joint European/American shuttle mission that conducted investigations…

Chappell is a magna cum laude graduate in physics from Vanderbilt University with a Ph.D. in space science from Rice University. He is the author of more than 100 published scientific articles and has served on numerous advisory committees for NASA and the National Academy of Science. He is a member of Phi Beta Kappa, the recipient of a Sloan scholarship and has twice received the NASA Medal for Exceptional Scientific Achievement. Chappell has represented NASA in an extensive variety of public appearances including color commentary on the Cable News Network and interviews on NBC1 s Today Show, ABC1 s Nightline, and the BBC….

I was wondering if Aspen Global Change Institute was connected to the Aspen Institute (Aspen Institute address: 1000 N 3rd Street Aspen CO 81611)

https://www.aspeninstitute.org/about/

Aspen Global Change Institute,104 Midland Ave, Suite 205, Basalt, CO 81621

The address is a CONDO!

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/104-Midland-Ave_Basalt_CO_81621_M18517-52464

Overview

Note: This property is not currently for sale or for rent on Zillow. The description and property data below may’ve been provided by a third party, the homeowner or public records.

Enjoy loft-style living with an urban, rustic feel in this newly-constructed condo. Located in historic downtown Basalt, this second floor two bedroom, two bath living space offers a garden patio, elevator access and beautiful finishes throughout. Great ambiance and decor. Private parking and storage included. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/104-Midland-Ave-201203-Basalt-CO-81621/242660135_zpid/

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Back to 2015…

…Hansen…is a product of our educational system that is infested with Progressives intent on the destruction of the USA.

Kids are taught to be ashamed of the USA, to hate capitalism, to hate Christians, to hate whites, (or feel guilty) to not think, to be dependent on the state….

From Robin:
Destroying the Dominant Social Paradigm Via Education for 21st Century Political Power and Personal Gain
Posted on November 6, 2013

Who knew that targeting the Dominant Social Paradigm to facilitate future social change was so thoroughly underway in countries like Germany and the US and the UK by the early 80s that books were being written simply shorthanding the goal as DSP? No wonder Outcomes Based Education and systems thinking were needed via K-12 education reform globally starting in earnest in the 80s. Now that I have firmly attached my deerstalker hat on my head of curls and pulled out my magnifying glass to peruse the footnotes, let’s go back to Lester W. Milbrath and his Environmentalists: Vanguard for a New Society before pivoting to go through the troubling Brookings Institute presentation yesterday of the new Oxford report. Pushing for “a collective vision for society” and “shared global values around which a unified and enduring pathway for society can be built.”

Whew! Good thing Brookings has no interest in education or social policy or we might need to be worried about what they are pushing. Why? How? Who really benefits? will all need to become our habitual inquiries as we embark upon our continuing investigation into this hoped for wholesale transformation away from individualism and personal choices to a planned public sector centric economy and society. As we saw in the last several posts, this aim has gone on for decades but whether we know it or not, we are in the final stages.

So let’s go back to 1984 without Orwell to lead us and make it satirical. These have been very real, long term aims. To develop and then unite a new “sophisticated understanding of how the world works with a normative/ethical system that recognizes and addresses those realities.” That would certainly explain why as I traipse around the world via the Internet examining global ed reforms over the last 10 years or so I just keep encountering diagrams of concentric circles with “core values and core beliefs” at the center….

And from an earlier comment HERE: https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2015/09/25/obama-agrees-to-let-china-co2-emissions-grow-for-15-more-years/#comment-543050

Look at what Kent Clizbe has said:

He [William R. Russell] was in Russia soon after the Bolsheviks seized power and spent considerable time there, working on Creel propaganda against the Germans, for the Bolsheviks, and later against the Bolsheviks. Russell described how he saw the communist tradecraft:

The way they worked their way to the seizure of power was as follows: Talk about peace, talk about social equality, especially among those most oppressed. Talk about organization of labor, and penetrate into every labor union. Talk on soapboxes. Publish pamphlets and papers. Orate and harangue. Play on envy. Arouse jealousy. Separate class from class. Try to break down the democratic processes from within. Accustom the people to picketing, strikes, mass meetings. Constantly attack the leaders in every way possible so that the people will lose confidence. Then in time of national peril, during a war, on the occasion of a great disaster, or of a general strike, walk into the capital and seize the power. A well-organized minority can work wonders.

Russell’s spot-on understanding of how the communists worked, based on his own on-location observations in Russia during the revolution should have been useful to him during the next two decades of his work at Columbia. Yet, under his nose, communist covert influence agents like George Counts, who was under Russell’s supervision at Columbia’s Teachers College, used the exact tactics he described—talking, publishing, orating and haranguing, breaking down democracy from within, attacking the leaders, making people lose confidence—to destroy American society.

I think this dive shows US science education was intentionally targeted to push an agenda and not science.