“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
This Fortress Q Tree Saturday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KMAG/KAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).
Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. But please keep it civil.
Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.
With the Storm upon us…please remember to Pray for our President.
Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition by Infraction, titled ‘Cinematic Epic Trailer Music’:
Visual Descriptions for our dear Zoe, and for anyone else who may find them helpful: Header and First Image: Is an enormous Tree standing alone in a clearing with a giant door built into the base of the trunk. A lone figure is approaching the doorway. There are patches of moss and small leafy branches emerging up and down the gnarled trunk. Second Image: Is an interior room with vaulted ceilings and arched throughways. There is a sturdy-looking couch with throw pillows and nearby armchairs. Behind the couch is a table and chairs…and there are additional seating groups in the adjacent spaces. Third Image: President Trump is walking outdoors and giving a short wave, with his arm out shoulder high. He has a solemn look of resolve on his face.
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Lately, I have been craving Coconut Custard Pie.
It’s a favorite of mine.
My childhood was totally devoid of Coconut Custard Pie. In fact, I didn’t even know it existed until I went to college, where I discovered it at a diner nearby.
I realize that this is not very big favorite with most people. It doesn’t even merit a mention in the ‘Most Favorite Pie’ category.
But that’s okay…I love pie. Pie makes me smile. It would be hard for me to pick just one that is my ‘favorite’. But I will ask you a very tough question…
We’re being lied to by our media. Lutsenko, the Prosecutor General of Ukraine, did NOT retract a statement about Yovanovich “She had a Do Not Prosecute List”, but it was an oral list, which Lutsenko wrote down…… and then he kicked her out of his office.
I had to magnify the pic from Glenn Beck’s video, searched and searched the internet. Finally, I found the author on Facebook, befriended her, and went back to the date of published article. Sure enough, once I translated the article, there it was. Here she is – Maria Zhartovskaya. She was a correspondent for Forbes, and it looks like she grew up in NYC https://m.facebook.com/zhartovska
Watch this video first to see how the media created the lie.
Okay, now here is the link to the actual source, which was twisted to create the lie.
The meeting [with the ambassador] was at the GPU, at this table (certificate- The interview was recorded in the Attorney General’s office., in January 2017.) It did not take place face to face. She was not alone, and I was not alone. Ms. Jovanovich was interested in the case of [former Deputy Attorney General] Vitaliy Kaska [whom the Kyiv prosecutor’s office suspected of fraud during the privatization of housing]. The fact that Mr Kasko registered a mother who had never left Lviv in an office apartment – these were signs of abuse. (certificate – In January 2017, the Kiev prosecutor’s office closed the case against Kask “for insufficient evidence.”.)
According to her, Casco was a prominent anti-corruption activist, and the criminal case [against him] discredited anti-corruption officials. I laid out the details [of the case] and explained that I could not open and close the proceedings at will. He called a number of so-called anti-corruption cases that are taking place in the cases. She said it was unacceptable, she said, undermining the credibility of anti-corruption activists. I took a leaflet, wrote down the names, and said, “dictate the list of untouchables.” She says, “No, you misunderstood me.” I say, “No, I understood you correctly; Previously, such lists were written by [the Presidential Administration] on the Bank, and you propose new lists from the Tank (certificate – The US Embassy in Ukraine is located on V. Sikorsky Street (former Tank) in Kiev.». The meeting is over. I’m afraid the emotions weren’t very good.
Due to comments public and private, which have escalated to levels which could theoretically constitute evidence in criminal and civil trials, I have been forced to suspend posting by two individuals. Both the public and private comments are of questionable legality, and appear to be admissible in both civil and criminal proceedings.
Both the public and private comments are potentially usable to close this site.
Acting with an abundance of caution to preserve both sites, I am forced to suspend posting and preserve evidence. The final private message WILL BE MADE PUBLIC so that neither I, WordPress, nor this site can be accused of hiding evidence.
The policy of NUCLEAR SUNSHINE on private messages is posted HERE, on the “Contact” page, along with the instructions about how to send private messages.
Note that there is NO EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY with private messages here. From the beginning of this capability, I have made it extremely clear that I do not like private messages, and believe that secrecy can be abused to create traps of various kinds. I have made clear that I can and will publicize private messages as needed to break up traps and leverage of various kinds. I will not hide or destroy evidence, and there is an abundance of the stuff now.
Although I know that federal officials are actively monitoring all information at this site, including “private messages”, it is important to remove all doubt.
I will post more information later and answer selected questions from any comments below.
I regret having to take this action. Not only does it tarnish our free speech record – it removes two posters whose interactions WITH ME have been enjoyable and rewarding. However, this is no longer a tolerable situation. When things get EVIDENTIARY, I believe it’s time to SHUT IT DOWN. No chances will be taken. NONE.
THESE SITES WILL RAIN HELL ON THE SOVIET DEMOCRATS IN 2020, AND NO WEAPON FORMED AGAINST US WILL BE ALLOWED TO ACHIEVE ITS OBJECTIVE.
W
PS – comments on these actions must remain CIVIL on Q Tree, and LEGAL on U Tree. I shall remain the sole judge of both. Note that I may act in an abundance of caution on both as well.
Announcement 2 (20191118):
I regret having to go into more detail than I did earlier, but questions, concerns, and opinions from well-meaning people leave me no real choice. I have no “probably secure” means of privately informing members. It is precisely because I anticipated the need for this step, that I previously notified everybody of staged announcements in this post.
I had hoped I would be wrong about needing a second announcement, but down deep, I knew.
So here goes.
There are multiple SPECIFIC reasons WHY I took the actions that I did. Not all of them can be shared publicly, but ALL of them are important for the following GENERAL reasons downstream of the specifics:
the well-being of this site
my personal security
the well-being of people on the site
the safety of the people suspended
the future of the Q movement
To a careful and limited extent, I’m going to share information about the SPECIFIC REASONS so that people can understand how and why they are necessary in support of the GENERAL REASONS.
It’s easiest to start at the end of the list.
First of all you need to understand that there is an ongoing, persistent, and (in my opinion) DIABOLICAL effort to slander the Q movement as violent. In a strong and valid sense, this is a form of controlling the opposition, so that those who oppose us can manipulate our speech, our behavior, and our FUTURE. They are doing everything they can to COUPLE the ideas of free speech and violence as a means to GASLIGHT HUMANITY into a state of CONTROL.
This is all based on a contradiction driven by our animal natures, wherein speech drives emotion in dumbed-down humans. Every one of us can be finagled into “chimping out”, if the Communists are persistent enough to find the means, in their patient, Maoist way. When you see me HITTING CHINA HARD in the future, it will be in part because CHINA deserves push-back for what is happening here.
When in doubt where it’s coming from, HIT CHINA.
The disease is complicated, but the cure is simple. Yeah, I know that China is a front for others, but still – THAT is where best to address the BTFO. Stop China, stop their masters.
So why, then, do we need to ban some of OUR members? Isn’t that “helping the enemy”?
First of all, that depends on the specific member. There are different reasons here, and the different reasons known publicly have most of the people here championing the return of one member but not the other.
Without risking sources and methods, it is important for me to state that BOTH MEMBERS were strongly flagged as site risks in the final stage of Wolf’s Extreme Vetting. I chose to “note” but not to act upon those flags. I now believe that this was an error.
It is entirely possible that I allowed my PERSONAL FEELINGS to overcome my PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT by not acting immediately to either not approve or belatedly suspend memberships.
Based on what has transpired, it would be NEGLIGENT of me to ignore those same warnings again.
NOW – none of this is to say anything bad about either individual. Just because a person was accurately deemed by some method to be a potential risk to THE MISSION OF THIS SITE says nothing about them as a friend, an ally, a fellow American, a fellow patriot, or just a good person, made in the image of God. It’s all about THIS PARTICULAR SITE and THE FUTURE. Take that however you want to take it.
If you want to take it as “woo-woo” – take it that way. If you want to take it as just another coincidence, take it that way. All I know is that I am now forced to respect the prediction.
It was a predicted risk. I chose to ignore the prediction. It happened.
FUTURE PROVES PAST.
Now we get into the meat of why this matters.
When indictments and evidence begin to come out, the FAKE NEWS will do everything in its power to protect the COUP PLOTTERS and ATTACK PRESIDENT TRUMP.
Sites like this are going to be under fire like NEVER BEFORE.
WE are on the FRONT LINES. We are ON POINT.
If the FAKE NEWS featuring people like KFILE and WAKE-UP MAGGIE can help take out a “QAnon Conspiracy Site” as the next 8chan to harm President Trump, using a MERE-MINUTES LEAD on “violent” posts that miraculously pop up here while I’m away, do you think they might do it?
Do you understand now why I automatically moderate every new poster here?
Do you understand why very sketchy happenings in my personal life keep me on my toes?
I can’t afford a bodyguard, and the other side is taking all kinds of risks to find out how much and what types of security I *DO* have.
They have ALREADY spent a considerable sum to get PRESENT and FUTURE information.
But there is something that matters even more than ME. That something is YOU.
The other side will very COLDLY target and use innocent people to achieve its objectives. Those innocent people may be just bystanders, but they can also be PARTICIPANTS, used as TOOLS in complex political dramas. If the other side thought for even a moment that they could use ANY OF YOU as a way to get to me with 100% deniability and acceptable risk, and that plan required TWO BODIES on the slab, they would do it in a HEARTBEAT.
In my experience, in plots that I have busted, the other side has repeatedly set things up so that somebody who I had reckoned as THEIR PRIME ASSET either COULD or WOULD be eliminated in the process. Those realizations are always a bit stomach-turning.
In other words, in “Epstein vs. Prince Andrew”, BOTH are in danger.
This is NOT a game. I ask all of you to join me in DOING THE RIGHT THING – which is not always the EASY THING.
Let us all go where the path to victory takes us – because in the end – WWG1WGA.
What’s the over/under on Marie breaking out into tears during testimony? Marie thinks President Trump was mean to her, implies she “feels threatened”. Really, Marie?
From President Zelinsky to President Trump: “……It was great that you were the first one who told me that she was a bad Ambassador because I agree with you 100%. Her attitude towards me was far from the best as she admired the previous President and was on his side. She would not accept me as a new President well enough.“
Background: Yovanovitch was born in 1958, in Canada. Her parents were Russian emmigrees, moved to Connecticut at age 3. Parents were professors, taught Russian. She grew up speaking Russian. Naturalized American citizen at age 18. Graduated Kent School in ’76, went to Princeton, BA in History and Russian Studies, entered foreign service. Posts in Canada, Moscow, London, Mogadishu, and Kyrgyzstan. Deputy Chief of Mission in Kiev, Ukraine from August 2001 to June 2004 (right up to the Orange Revolution). Then appointed Ambassador to Kyrgyzstan, Ambassador to Armenia. Back to State Dept in 2011, helped get rid of missiles in Poland (bad idea-Obama gave it away and got nothing in return). Announced as Amb to Ukraine on May 18, 2016 (note date), approved August 29th of 2016, just in time for US election.
Used her office as Hillary Clinton headquarters, working with Glenn Simpson and Fusion GPS.
Yovanovich is also implicated in the Black Ledger docs which magically appeared (implied Manafort was receiving millions in cash payments) and were supplied to the prosecutors in Ukraine along with a simultaneous delivery to the New York Times.
May 2019, After Durham’s visit to Ukraine, Yovanovitch was fired and the evident outrage by the left was for good reason. This is where the Atlantic Council, AntAC, but more importantly Nellie Ohr and her mentor’s involvement in #crossfirehurricane, came to light.
Yovanovitch and Sergiy: As an Ambassador to the USA, worked with an MP in Parliament, Sergiy Leshchenko.
Leshchenko is a hard left fascist radical (used to be an investigative journalist) who leaked the Party of Regions docs on Manafort to the NYTimes. He was found GUILTY of the leak, convicted for meddling in a US Election of 2016. The conviction was overturned on “standing of suing party” and “statute of limitations” technicalies. No denying Sergiy did it – he’s proud of it. He doesn’t seem to understand he’s an MP now and not a rag reporter with journalist immunity to smear. Almost 100% consensus the documents were faked, provenance is sketchy, but the trick worked and Manafort was forced to resign the following day. https://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/229471/ukrainian-mp-manafort-secrets
Yovanovitch and PRESIDENT Zelinsky: Zelinsky does not like Yovanovitch and implied she told him she preferred the previous President. I believe that’s from the phone call on July 25th – Again:
From President Zelinsky to President Trump: “……It was great that you were he first one who told me that she was a bad Ambassador because I agree with you 100%. Her attitude towards me was far from the best as she admired the previous President and was on his side. She would not accept me as a new President well enough.“
Yovanovitch and George Kent: In her testimony, Marie claims she never spoke to George about Burisma or Hunter Biden. Really? George Kent was her Deputy. George Kent complained about the appearance of conflict of interest for Hunter Biden, to the VP’s staff, directly…….. but he never spoke to Marie?
Yovanovitch and Giuliani: Judge for yourself.
Yovanovitch Surveillance of Americans:(Judicial Watch) Judicial Watch has obtained information indicating Yovanovitch may have violated laws and government regulations by ordering subordinates to target certain U.S. persons using State Department resources. Yovanovitch reportedly ordered monitoring keyed to the following search terms: Biden, Giuliani, Soros and Yovanovitch. Judicial Watch has filed a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request with the State Department and will continue gathering facts from government sources.
Prior to being recalled as ambassador to Ukraine in the spring Yovanovitch reportedly created a list of individuals who were to be monitored via social media and other means. Ukraine embassy staff made the request to the Washington D.C. headquarters office of the department’s Bureau of European and Eurasian Affairs. After several days, Yovanovitch’s staff was informed that the request was illegal and the monitoring either ceased or was concealed via the State Department Global Engagement Center, which has looser restrictions on collecting information.
“This is not an obscure rule, everyone in public diplomacy or public affairs knows they can’t make lists and monitor U.S. citizens unless there is a major national security reason,” according to a senior State Department official. If the illicit operation occurred, it seems to indicate a clear political bias against the president and his supporters.
Hidden in the new law – Section 1287 – are the funding and guidelines necessary to establish a Global Engagement Center. The wording is sufficiently vague enough for the GEC to become a Ministry of Truth.
Section 1287, (a) Establishment, (2) Purpose: The purpose of the Center shall be to lead, synchronize, and coordinate efforts of the Federal Government to recognize, understand, expose, and counter foreign state and non-state propaganda and disinformation efforts aimed at undermining United States national security interests.
From 2017
National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2017 into law last Friday while Americans were busy making their last minute Christmas preparations. The vote in the Senate on December 8th was 85-13 where its sponsor was John McCain. Only two Republicans voted against the final version before it was sent to President Obama to sign. It had passed the House a week earlier by a vote of 375-34 with no more than 5 Republicans voting against it. Paul Ryan wasn’t one of them.
Hidden in the new law – Section 1287 – are the funding and guidelines necessary to establish a Global Engagement Center.
Yovanovitch will play the victim.
State Dept has rallied around her
WASHINGTON, DC – JANUARY 20: President-elect Donald Trump (C) and President Barack Obama (R) are greeted by members of the Congressional leadership including House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) as they arrive for Trump’s inauguration ceremony at the Capitol on January 20, 2017 in Washington, DC. Trump became the 45th president of the United States. (Photo by J. Scott Applewhite – Pool/Getty Images)
“……“bribery” as defined under the constitution for impeachment speaks to the President receiving cash or value to take an action for the benefit of a foreign power. [Pelosi has the entire thing reversed]…” SD
Welcome to the Open Thread!!!!!! Open Thread is very open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
I know, I know, it’s not even Thanksgiving yet, but the WH Official Christmas Ornament is out and it’s a copy of Marine One! Completely different than anything else. Love it.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways.
Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible. Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!
“I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Aubergine’s Razor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Brad Parscale is our beloved Campaign Manager and he is rewriting the rules.
WOW!
$3,144,257 RAISED YESTERDAY!@realDonaldTrump loves these huge numbers.
He knows that it isn’t enough to end this IMPEACHMENT SCAM. We're upping the goal to $5 MILLION!
We’ve developed quite a taste for the bodacious seafood in Louisiana and need to go back at least once a week with the President. While we’re there, we can have a MAGA RALLY!
Nothing in the world better than a fresh “dressed” Shrimp Po-Boy
Today we’re going to Shreveport/Bossier City, Louisiana. They’re twin cities which straddle the Red River, kind of like Minneapolis/St. Paul do up north. The area is “up and coming” more influenced by Dallas than New Orleans, and sits in a tri-state area of Arkansas-Texas-Louisiana. Shreveport Bossier has cyber corridors, large facilities for AT&T, Chase, Capitol One, SWEPCO, GE, and used to be the headquarters for Standard Oil, until it was absorbed by Exxon. City itself has a population of about 200K with the metro at just under a half million. Younger population, more families, more restaurants, museums, art, theatre, with a lot of BBQ and Seafood.
Just outside the cities, is the location of Barksdale Air Force Base… which completely kicks a$$ and where President Bush flew into on 9/11 to organize our government while we were under attack. It was a tense day for all Americans, but for those on the ground in Shreveport, we were defending our very government amid the fog of war.
Great story about the base and the power of locals/state/Feds working together – The federal gov’t was looking for a major interior air base and NE Texas was chosen as the spot. Town forefathers in Shreveport wanted the base on the LA side, so they bought land from 800 private citizens, including a 20K acre cotton plantation with a 1.5 million dollar bond. Then, they gifted the land to the Feds. Barksdale AFB was born, continues to grow and dominate, and we are so proud.
I don’t know if you guys know this or not, but Louisiana has “Blue Laws” which stem from old Napoleonic Code, quite different from other states, which is why lawyers from out of state have a hard time licensing in LA. Additionally, Governor Huey Long was the next thing to a socialist in the 1930’s, enormously popular, and almost won nomination for Dem President. Therefore, many of the tax laws and procedural contracts in LA are contrary to effective business.
If Louisiana had a businessman as Governor, Eddie Rispone, a Republican, backed up by a President like Trump, the area of Shreveport/Bossier City would take off like a rocket. Which is why we’re here to RALLY for Rispone! The latest poll showed a 49.2% for John Bel Edwards and 48.6% for Rispone. With the race this tight, we need turnout. Therefore, we need President Trump to drive turnout!
Eddie Rispone Rips Leftist Democrat John Bel Edwards. Looks like Louisiana has a chance to elect a great fighter for governor. #LA#Louisianahttps://t.co/yufnbCGB7z
The Dems are worried and pouring MILLIONS into Louisiana at the last minute.
National radical Democrats are pouring hundreds of thousands of dollars into this race to save liberal @JohnBelforLA. It’s time to send a message to the radical left – Louisiana stands with @realdonaldtrump. Go vote Saturday! #LAGovhttps://t.co/BkdoVfld7r
Shreveport is the 113th largest city in the country. The land price, labor pool, access to inexpensive utility/energy, new shale and LNG discovery, lifestyle, local breweries, great food, a Sci-Port, universities, cyber corridor, mild weather, low home cost, gorgeous new boardwalk, film industry, and proximity to a major AFB puts Shreveport in a perfect position for MASSIVE economic expansion. Just takes the right leadership to light the fire and a few tweaks to the tax code.
When what is about to be exposed is fully exposed, people are going to prison all around the planet. Some nations and political systems will have to live down their roles in this conspiracy for CENTURIES. The Catholic Church will very likely have a new Pope. American politics will be changed forever. Science will be changed forever. News as we once knew it will not exist. Even the United Nations will either be reformed, replaced, or simply removed – all because it will have shown itself to be worse than a failure – an active CO-CONSPIRATOR.
And all of this is part of a GOOD THING.
The people who were part of this conspiracy were, at the top levels – MONSTERS.
They didn’t just betray their countries – they betrayed HUMANITY.
So how did this happen?
WE BEGIN.
Check the LATEST Q Post:
3594 The Armor of God Q !!mG7VJxZNCI 13 Nov 2019 – 5:21:13 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MK0j765ko4 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. Prepare. For God & Country. For Humanity. We FIGHT! Q
Q Post 3594
Here is the specifically relevant section:
Prepare.
For God & Country.
For Humanity.
We FIGHT!
Q
FOR HUMANITY.
This is international – GLOBAL – in scope. You MUST go global to see it all.
The point that will become very evident is that the people behind this were not interested in the well-being of humanity. They were LYING to us – COLDLY – knowing the COLD TRUTH that they were deliberately HIDING FROM US by means of a DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED LIE.
These people CANNOT be left in power. No matter what happens, they must be removed.
EVEN IF THE SKY FALLS.
We are seeing, in this impeachment defense by the Democrats, a pattern which I have talked about before – the attempt to “generate a conspiracy” or “generate a scandal” to protect a much larger and more dangerous one.
I’m an expert on this stuff. I SAW how this stuff worked – from the inside – and I LIVED to tell about it.
I was in a bush-league, multi-million dollar conspiracy, that I eventually figured out was CREATED by a bigger one – that would ultimately accrue trillions of taxpayer dollars over decades – to protect the monetary and political interests of all the players.
Quickly summarizing, there was a PROBLEM with the very beginnings of university-level affirmative action. There really shouldn’t have been. It was intentionally tested in places where it was DESIGNED TO SUCCEED. People were sympathetic with it. People were also instructed to “help it along”, one might say. Make sure it succeeded, more or less. Don’t get in the way. It’s been a long time, and I don’t want to get the exact words out of cryogenic storage, but that was the basic idea.
SO – when there was a PROBLEM with it, I recognized the problem. There was a “self-evident failure” – a dramatic proof that was basically a “no brainer”. Anybody confronted with the facts could understand WHAT happened and WHY it happened. A sympathetic person like me would look PAST racial stuff, to REAL CAUSES. I understood it, because I had seen it at a different university, which was dealing with a problem of privileged white American students “not ready” for freshman classes. I had even seen a FIX tried, by good, honest academics, and the FIX had WORKED. I *PREDICTED*, using SCIENCE, that the fix would work here, too.
And then I forgot ALL ABOUT THAT PART. For about 35 years.
That is when Democrats had two problems.
EVIDENCE and SOMEBODY WHO HAD SEEN IT.
They never wanted this stuff to work. They wanted the MONEY. The FIX would have cut into the MONEY. Not a lot, but these are GREEDY PEOPLE. A few percent at that level could mean YEARS and BILLIONS OF DOLLARS. Yes, out of TRILLIONS, but a percent or two is a percent or two! Depending on who would have gotten it, that’s a problem.
So – using some very stealthy but unethical ways to WRAP UP THE PROBLEM, it was WRAPPED UP.
But I LIVED, and REMEMBERED some things I wasn’t supposed to remember, and kept my mouth shut for almost 40 years.
You want to know something interesting?
The WHITE HATS knew a lot more about this, a lot sooner, than you might have thought.
This gives me comfort.
Anyway, during the TRUMP CAMPAIGN and now during the TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, I figured out a LOT OF STUFF. One of the most important things was the PATTERN of the bigger conspiracies creating smaller ones as defenses. It’s rather ingenious. That is how I recognized what happened to me. Our little podunk “conspiracy” to defend ourselves was DESIGNED. Once I understood this, everything was explained.
THE CREATION OF SMALLER FAKE OR REAL CONSPIRACIES IS A PATTERN.
IT IS A DEFENSE STRATEGY OF THE GRANDER CONSPIRACIES.
AND IT IS SUBJECT TO CATASTROPHIC FAILURE.
LIKE WE ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW.
IN THE GREAT AWAKENING.
ENJOY THE SHOW.
Let’s look at THREE MORE Q POSTS from this afternoon. They all point out something very interesting.
3590 Alexandra Chalupa, Ukraine & The DNC Plot to Link Trump to the Russia Hoax Q !!mG7VJxZNCI 13 Nov 2019 – 11:54:51 AM https://www.grassley.senate.gov/sites/default/files/constituents/2017-07-20%20CEG%20to%20DOJ%20%28Ukraine%20DNC%20FARA%29.pdf Read carefully. Re-read carefully. Spy_insert [EC] known? Re-read drops re: Spy_insert. What do these people have in common? Pelosi’s son Kerry’s son Romney’s son Biden’s son Hint: Geo location: Ukraine Hint: Energy Coincidence? When [GS] calls, D’s always answer. Nothing can stop what is coming. Nothing! Q
Q Post 3590
3591 Paul Pelosi Jr. Served on Ukraine Gas Company Board Just like Hunter Biden Q !!mG7VJxZNCI 13 Nov 2019 – 1:32:54 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1KfU5ifhqE Follow the family. Q
Now ISN’T THIS INTERESTING. Top Democrats – including Mitt Romney – are all using their KIDS to somewhat secretly invest in Ukrainian fossil fuel energy. And yet – FUNNY – this is exactly the WRONG KIND of energy, according to Democrat propaganda.
Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) and Senator Ed Markey (D-MA) were joined by Democratic lawmakers from both the House and Senate on February 7, 2019, to introduce Green New Deal legislation.
If it were just one or two of them, I might let it slip. But we are now seeing FOUR of them. And maybe there are EVEN MORE! What’s up with THAT?
Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action.
Ian Fleming, in “Goldfinger”
This is NOT coincidence. There are a bunch of Democrats, including Mitt Romney [What about Kasich? What about Kasich? What about Kasich?] who appear to be invested in Ukrainian “unclean” energy for some reason – while at the same time pushing phony “CLIMATE CHANGE” and phony “GREEN ENERGY” on us like we MUST accept it.
And there are simply TOO MANY OF THEM to think this is just a coincidence.
What’s up with THAT? Something doesn’t smell right. But WHAT IS IT?
We’re about to see. HANG ON.
So now we move on from IAN FLEMING to the MAMET PRINCIPLE…..
In order to continue advancing their illogical arguments, modern liberals have to pretend not to know things.
David Mamet, paraphrased by Sundance from “The Secret Knowledge”
First of all, there is the EVIDENCE. And there is a LOT. How are the Dems going to be able to deny all THIS STUFF?
Leaked documents from the Ukrainian General Prosecutor’s office indicate complex money transfers from foreign sources into the control of a “slush fund” owned and operated by Devon Archer, John Kerry Senior, John Kerry Junior, Heinz Jr, and Hunter Biden.
According to the Department of Financial Monitoring (Counter-intelligence) of Latvia, the following sums of money were obtained from Busima Holding Limited (Cyprus) which is open at AS PrivatBank in Latvia: pic.twitter.com/vSG1LLwqvA
BURISMA HOLDINGS LIMITED, during a period from November 18th 2014 to November 16th 2015 transacted 45 money transfers through MORGAN STANLEY SMITH BARNEY LLC in the sum of $3.5M dollars.
The recipient of the money transfer is Rosemont Seneca Bohai LLC.
Leaked transaction and bank records indicate an influx of large payments from Ukrainian energy company Burisma Holdings Limited to Rosemont Seneca Bohai LLC, in what appears to be monthly payments of $83,333.33. pic.twitter.com/BZXi61NnOO
And today, there was a real treat at the PHONY IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS.
People everywhere could SEE the Democrats PRETENDING!
.@CongressmanHice on #ImpeachmentHearings: "Democrats are aware, if we get to the truth, it will be revealed for what it is. This is a sham, it is a witch hunt, it is political theater with the sole intent of harming the president." pic.twitter.com/3iVyKe0Ron
Wait, George Kent had never heard of Crowdstrike????? What echo chamber under a rock does he inhabit? And hence, why should the Trump Administration pay any attention to what he has to say? About anything including how to cook borscht?
Remember, neither did Robert Mueller. He didn’t know who Fusion GPS was either. Who wants to bet Mr. Kent or someone close to him is on the PAYROLL of Crowdstrike. IT will come out.
“It is dangerous to attribute to stupidity that which could be the result of malice or guile.” -Aubergine I love it! Born from our discussion of Hanlon’s Razor HERE, I can neither vouch for the originality of Aubergine’s idea, nor will I even try. For MY purposes, this simply IS “Aubergine’s Razor”. Others can argue …Continue reading
What this is saying is that we should not think that what these Ukraine-investing Democrats are doing here is just stupidity. It is DANGEROUS for us to think this is merely stupidity. There could be GUILE and even MALICE involved.
It seems hypocritical to push phony green energy and invest in the alternative – right? Well, one way to interpret the hypocrisy is that it’s just DUMB. And Aubergine’s razor says NO – don’t assume it’s dumb. That’s DANGEROUS. Be careful. There may be GUILE or MALICE here.
So we’ll be careful, and keep looking.
But HERE is the real trick with Aubergine’s razor. To remain SELF-CONSISTENT, you have to apply it REPEATEDLY, every time you hit a stupidity.
And when you do this, you will be BLOWN AWAY by what you find.
All you have to do HERE is ask WHO is going to buy the Ukrainian gas.
EUROPE.
And who is being deceived, more than ANYBODY ELSE, by the CLIMATE CHANGE HOAX?
EUROPE.
And who had their very efficient and very advanced and very safe nuclear energy industry shut down by a former East German information warfare specialist who JUST HAPPENED to become a “conservative” Unified German politician after the WALL FELL?
GERMANY. The MAIN CUSTOMER in EUROPE.
Are you starting to see this stuff?
THEY. CREATED. THE. SCARCITY.
THEY. CREATED. THE. MARKET.
THEY. CREATED. THE. NEED.
And then bear in MIND that it really seems like the FIRST attempt to impeach Trump, using Carter Page (ENERGY GUY) and George Papadopoulos ( ENERGY GUY) and Paul Manafort (UKRAINIAN ENERGY GUY), seemed to be all about ENERGY as well.
HMMMMMMMMM…..
If – instead of just saying “Oh, those Democrats just wanted to make money.”, we actually FOLLOW THE MONEY – well – we might see that they’re not just PRETENDING not to know – they VERY WELL KNOW – and are probably acting in a spirit of guile and/or malice.
But it gets worse.
MUCH WORSE.
Have you noticed how the entire NATION just got COLD AS HELL for the phony backfiring impeachment hoax that is about to send hundreds of Democrats and their criminal friends to JAIL?
THAT. COLD. SNAP. IS. A. MESSAGE.
I could say that God showed this to us. However, I know that sounds crazy. So I could also say that KARMA showed this to us – in a kind of probabilistic inevitability. But I think it’s even neater to say that SCIENCE showed it to us – because it did!
Science that is WAY BETTER and WAY STRONGER and WAY MORE RELIABLE and WAY MORE PREDICTIVE than all the hoaxy “climate change” bullshit, pardon my French.
Yes, humans can LIE and LIE and LIE, but because the LIE depends on DIVERGING from reality, all that is needed to burn that lie is for that REALITY to come crashing back – by PROBABILITY and REAL SCIENCE – to thereby give HUMANITY an excellent demonstration.
It’s not magic – it’s science. But God – well, He invented THAT, too. And it works GREAT with the universe!
The phony explanations about how “global warming” and then “climate change” were causing hurricanes and whatnot – all that stuff is either WRONG, inconclusive, or tenuous at best. Even the proponents of AGW and “climate change” don’t really want to go there. You will see most of these arguments from NON-CLIMATE scientists and lay people. The climate scientists know that they can’t go there. The data don’t support it. And now that OTHER scientists are politically more free to SAY there’s no proof of even a connection, you’re hearing it a LOT MORE OFTEN.
BUT WAIT.
That INABILITY to make a connection and that INABILITY to PREDICT STUFF ACCURATELY is NOT the case for SOLAR GLOBAL WARMING AND COOLING.
No.
The science on SOLAR heating and cooling is STRONG, WELL-UNDERSTOOD, and operates well on short time frames.
It is NOT rocket science. Reduced solar activity – reduced temperatures on Earth. EASY.
This is the simple, well-known science that politically driven hoaxing “AGW / CC” Fake Climate Science was able to SHOUT OFF THE STAGE.
Yes. The simple, easy-to-understand answer was shouted down by politicized FAKE SCIENCE.
But OMG – there are still some brave souls who survived Obama!
Don't forget the sun! We are heading into a deep Maunder minimum. You know what that means? We are gonna freeze our asses off. Ain't that a hoot. And I thought it was the cow farts.
Take a look at the graphs. They are VERY self-explanatory. We are right now ENDING cycle 24, and beginning cycle 25. Cycle 25 is being predicted to be DOWN EVEN FURTHER.
I urge you to go back to that link and read the context of these graphs. Not only does the article context hint at prior politicized science in the NSF *FAILED PREDICTION* of cycle 24 being stronger than 23, which even an UNTRAINED EYE sees as CURIOUS if not UNBELIEVABLE – there are much more believable assessments of the ACTUAL data, demonstrating that we are heading into a solar minimum which may EVEN be of “little ice age” character – a truly HISTORIC minimum.
More tweets:
The upcoming grand solar minimum predicted, similar to Maunder Minimum, which starts in 2020 and will last until 2055 is a huge cause for concern.Jul 1, 2019 #GrandSolarMinimumhttps://t.co/2j3Eh00NMD › 2019/07/01 Valentina Zharkova on the upcoming Grand Solar Minimum
Here is an EXTREMELY useful video on the prediction and effects of solar heating and cooling, and in particular, some discussion of the INFAMOUS “Maunder Minimum”.
So now we are finally back where we were before. Aubergine’s Razor.
Who is her handler?
A MONEY GUY.
If it’s not clear as day what is going on here, let me spell it out.
These people have LIED TO US. They have FOOLED US. They have run a monstrous HOAX on the entire world. We are very likely going into MASSIVE GLOBAL COOLING – reduced solar activity – cold that will REQUIRE fossil fuels and nuclear energy – and what have they done to America?
Sold 20% of our uranium to Russia.
Pooh-poohed thorium.
Shut down nuclear.
Bashed coal and gas.
Tried to ban fracking.
Hooked us on solar and wind.
Sent everything to RUSSIA and CHINA.
Helped China pollute without consequence.
ALL of this stuff seems to be setting America up for a fall. And yet…
Invested PERSONALLY in UKRAINIAN FOSSIL FUELS which will be valuable and controlling when the solar minimum hits this planet.
In short, they are setting up the planet for an “accident” and then reaping on the DESIRED consequences.
Yeah. I know something about people who would do that to MAKE money, PROTECT money, or BOTH.
This Night before Daughn THURSDAY 20191114 Open Thread is very open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
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the Continental Congress What would our founding fathers think of today’s Disgraceful Democrats Display of Debauchery?
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways.
Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible. Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!
“I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
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Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics:
Are you ready? Are you ready for the live House of Representatives Special Committee on Intelligence impeachment show hearings, affectionately known as the Adam Schiff Show, featuring emergency replacement and actual national wrestling champion Republican Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio on the panel asking Democrat witnesses questions about what they claim to know, but didn’t witness as revealed in the transcripts of closed door depositions?
Guess what, the Schiff Show is about to go live, and We the People will be witness to history, the sort of history that will be turned into memes and soundbites for the next election cycle without any passing go. See, Fox News’s Gregg Jarrett tells us about the hole Democrats have dug for themselves, but refuse to admit.
At first, Schiff wanted the faux “whistleblower” who triggered the impeachment farce to testify. Then, suddenly, he didn’t. What changed? In the interim, evidence emerged that Schiff and/or his staff colluded with the “whistleblower” before the complaint was ever filed and then lied about it, earning Schiff “Four Pinocchios” from The Washington Post.
The chairman now wants to conceal his own role in engineering the pretext for impeachment and his subsequent deceit. This is why he has insisted that the “whistleblower” remain anonymous, despite no such right, guarantee, privilege, or entitlement written in the law, as I explained in an earlier column. Even though the undercover informant (reportedly working for the CIA) does not qualify for whistleblower status under the law as determined by the Department of Justice, any effort by Republicans to call him as a witness will be blocked by Schiff.
But Schiff’s machinations are more malevolent than masking the key witness. Those he will call to testify are already on record dishing up prodigious plates of multiple hearsay and rank speculation. It is obvious from the released transcripts of the heretofore “super top-secret” inquisition that none of them have any firsthand knowledge of a “quid pro quo” allegedly demanded by President Trump.
In other words, the Democrats have been running around claiming double secret probation without the benefit of any crime committed, or even a witness that can claim any material knowledge of what condiments President Trump had on his last hamburger. Not only that, they don’t want anyone to know who the whistleblower (Eric Ciamarella) is to the point that no one is supposed to utter his name in public. Well Republican Rep. Dan Bishop had something to say about that.
100%. I refuse to cower before the authoritarian intimidation campaign.
He’s not Voldemort. And he’s not a bona fide whistleblower. Even if he were, he wouldn’t be entitled to secrecy.
Eric Ciamarella is a deep state conspirator. He needs to testify now. https://t.co/JOxhEOOJiA
And…they’re holding public hearings today, apparently trying to relive the heady days of Watergate when a future Democrat candidate for president was actually fired from that fiasco for lying. (Funny that the little woman didn’t learn from that experience.)
Watch at any of the links provided. (More options for viewing will be dropped below when they come available.)
Morning all. Hopefully, your pre-holidays weeks are going well. It’s that time of year when roaring fires become cozy beacons…oh, let’s face it. A solar minimum has us using the Crock Pots way more than normal. Please, stay warm.
And now, how about something from the American Revolution.
Okay, so here’s the deal. This is the open thread. This is where we all come to get the news that other Q tree inhabitants think is worth knowing and sharing. Please, post links to any “news” stories quoted, and ask for help if you are stumped as to how to do that. We’re a friendly lot. Someone will be with you shortly, and there is no reason to have to press one for English.
Free speech, and the open exchange and hashing out of ideas is not only allowed, but encouraged. If we all don’t use it, we’re going to lose it. A little incivility goes a long way, though. Everyone here has closely held convictions and values. Stepping on them might result in something like this:
https://youtu.be/QUkTiLA1d5g
There is absolutely no reason for infighting to result in burning down the tree, house up in the branches and all. Please, keep the tail feathers tucked and avoid lifting legs on the fire hydrants.
AND before hitting the “post” button, ask yourself if the words you use are reminiscent of the Alinsky method of isolating a target rather than actually fostering dialogue and discussion. Getting the MAGA movement to engage in infighting is one of the other side’s goals. Falling into that trap no matter the topic being discussed feeds the divisions, and the impression the other side wants to impose on us as being violent and all that goes with that characature.
And now for some house keeping:
There are a few rules here in the branches of the Q Tree. Our host, Wolfm00n, outlined them in a post on New Years Day. Please, review these rules from time to time.
Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Steve suggests – to be accurate – no shooting at the nuclear weapons, but to be safe about it, don’t event point firearms toward them. I, Deplorable Patriot, bossy chick that I am, request no teasing the animals, pets and wildlife alike.
Teasing and trolling the lefties and their bastions, on the other hand is a moral imperative. Found this on FB.
In the eternal fight against the forces of evil and darkness, unceasing prayer is always needed.
Today’s Gospel is St. Luke’s version of the ten lepers asking Jesus for pity before he cured them, but the reading that speaks to our times comes from the book of Wisdom of the Helenistic Canon:
WIS 6:1-11 Hear, O kings, and understand; learn, you magistrates of the earth’s expanse! Hearken, you who are in power over the multitude and lord it over throngs of peoples! Because authority was given you by the Lord and sovereignty by the Most High, who shall probe your works and scrutinize your counsels. Because, though you were ministers of his kingdom, you judged not rightly, and did not keep the law, nor walk according to the will of God, Terribly and swiftly shall he come against you, because judgment is stern for the exalted– For the lowly may be pardoned out of mercy but the mighty shall be mightily put to the test. For the Lord of all shows no partiality, nor does he fear greatness, Because he himself made the great as well as the small, and he provides for all alike; but for those in power a rigorous scrutiny impends. To you, therefore, O princes, are my words addressed that you may learn wisdom and that you may not sin. For those who keep the holy precepts hallowed shall be found holy, and those learned in them will have ready a response. Desire therefore my words; long for them and you shall be instructed.
As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome.
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