Dear KAG: 20211020 Open Thread

Let’s see….

Where to start….

How about with what’s for dinner.

Unhappy with prices, ranchers look to build own meat plants

DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — Like other ranchers across the country, Rusty Kemp for years grumbled about rock-bottom prices paid for the cattle he raised in central Nebraska, even as the cost of beef at grocery stores kept climbing.

He and his neighbors blamed it on consolidation in the beef industry stretching back to the 1970s that resulted in four companies slaughtering over 80% of the nation’s cattle, giving the processors more power to set prices while ranchers struggled to make a living. Federal data show that for every dollar spent on food, the share that went to ranchers and farmers dropped from 35 cents in the 1970s to 14 cents recently.

It led Kemp to launch an audacious plan: Raise more than $300 million from ranchers to build a plant themselves, putting their future in their own hands.

“We’ve been complaining about it for 30 years,” Kemp said. “It’s probably time somebody does something about it.”

Crews will start work this fall building the Sustainable Beef plant on nearly 400 acres near North Platte, Nebraska, and other groups are making similar surprising moves in Iowa, Idaho and Wisconsin. The enterprises will test whether it’s really possible to compete financially against an industry trend that has swept through American agriculture and that played a role in meat shortages during the coronavirus pandemic.

The move is well timed, as the U.S. Department of Agriculture is now taking a number of steps to encourage a more diverse supply in the beef industry.

Still, it’s hard to overstate the challenge, going up against huge, well-financed competitors that run highly efficient plants and can sell beef at prices that smaller operators will struggle to match.

More here

I’m sure the carnivores here at the Q Tree wish them the best in this endeavor even if they are not producing bacon.

Here’s a question for the ages:

It’s a sad and tragic situation.

Critical Thinking 101(Expert of Expert Evaluation)@critica18495985
People seriously worship vaccines as holy. But if you ask them what convinced them, you’ll find evidence so flimsy, it feels like a joke. “Well before them there was polio, after there wasn’t, duhhh.” Ignoring the fact that almost all diseases were in a pattern of decline.
12:03 AM · Oct 19, 2021

All diseases except a non-disease treated as one.

Not going to expand on this one at this juncture.

BlackRock, who is buying up homes and foreclosures at record speed in the United States has an ownership of 262,067,651 shares of Pfizer Inc. 

Would it surprise you to know that Blackrock/Vanguard own 15% of Delta airlines, collectively?…

Who is Michale Pyle? He is a former alumni of Black Rock and is currently Kamala Harris’s Chief Economist. Black Rock’s assets are worth over 8.7 Trillion dollars and gobbling up US assets as fast as they can

Vanguard works along side BlackRock. They own the largest stake in Pfizer at a whopping 432,721,863 shares which equals $18,611,367,328.

More links at the Thread Reader

Government and commercial incest at its finest.

Our friends in Italy are putting on a show.

About Let’s Go Brandon….

About the fact checkers:

Chef Andrew Gruel@ChefGruel
Every “Fact Check” I see trending turns out to be real, even though the fact-checkers say “missing information”. This fact-checking mission is actually bringing attention to the fact the fact-checkers are wrong. Fact check that one with a fat check.
1:02 AM · Oct 19, 2021

Oh, Red hen Jen:

Have a good day y’all.

(I hope there’s this much good stuff out there tomorrow.)

(I don’t remember who brought this to a daily in the comments, but thanks.)

And, of course, the obligatory George Carlin:

Per the Boss:

I know I said we’d go through the horror film themes, but given the beef story….

I’ve only seen Carnegie Hall from the stage, and, uh, that’s not Carnegie Hall, at least not the main hall.

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ROMANS 6:12-18

12Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal bodies, to make you obey their passions. 13Do not yield your members to sin as instruments of wickedness, but yield yourselves to God as men who have been brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments of righteousness. 14For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. 15What then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means! 16Do you not know that if you yield yourselves to any one as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? 17But thanks be to God, that you who were once slaves of sin have become obedient from the heart to the standard of teaching to which you were committed, 18and, having been set free from sin, have become slaves of righteousness.

Do not be afraid to take a chance on peace, to teach peace, to live peace. Peace will be the last word of history” – St. Pope John Paul II

Holiness is this profound contact with God, becoming a friend of God: it is letting the Other work, the Only One who can really make the world both good and happy. — Benedict XVI

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome.

Please include: President Donald Trump, the Q team, our soldiers in the field, special forces, tactical units, first responders and those working behind the scenes…and any and all people with family members in the hospital, COVID or not.

Wolf Moon

July 6, 2021 17:07
Thanking everybody for your patience. Whether happenstance, coincidence, or enemy action, I’m dealing with some technical issues. In addition to those, and the obvious spiritual attacks, I am dealing with the obvious site stuff in what are best maintained as unobvious ways.

I suspect we struck a nerve.

A combined technical / spiritual / strategic response by all of us will prevent this attack from succeeding. Hold the line – bite the bullet – gird the loins – bite the lip – pray for guidance, discernment, and strength – whatever YOU believe keeps the ship aright for the moment. Everything else is lower priority.

In that spirit, the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel from Tuesday’s threads, and the Breastplate of St. Patrick, not to mention the Litany of Humility are favorites recommended by exorcists in spiritual warfare.

It’s one of those days.

The things you find on the internet.

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Wolf Moon


From GAB (remember that!)

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Wolf Moon

Sign-up does not appear to require a phone number – just a “name” and an email address. GOOD. You can sign up now and be part of the beta test in November.

Brave and Free
Says available Feb 21,2022 @ app store

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YUGE! That is great news, and I bet the stock is a winner.

Wolf Moon

This will be a good site, IMO. They have had time to study the problems with all the others.


Big competition for Gab and GETTR?


Available at the Apple App Store. What could go wrong there?

Wolf Moon

Yeah, I know. I think Trump is baiting them.


More at Citizen Free Press

Additionally, TMTG intends to launch a subscription video on demand service (TMTG+). TMTG+ will feature ‘non-woke’ entertainment programming, news, podcasts, and more. TMTG has named Scott St. John as the leader of TMTG+ Corporate Operations. Scott St. John is the Executive Producer of “Deal or No Deal’ and “America’s Got Talent” and has produced over 1,000 hours of Network and Cable TV.

Wolf Moon



Honestly, this should have been ready to go in Jan. 2020

Wolf Moon

Maybe Jan 2021. I still think 1/6 took a lot of people off guard. The other side spent YEARS in top secret preparing that steal.

Wolf Moon

Wait – I see what you’re saying. Ready BEFORE the election. Yeah, that would be problematic, though, as far as Trump himself, but the TIMING would have helped.


Should have anticipated the steal and had this as a ready-to-go Plan B (for backup)

Wolf Moon

Which makes it a bit ironic, as in “They never thought he’d lose.” Which I know isn’t true, because I think they DID expect some big cheating. But Trump was headed to a victory, and it was clear that they used the mail-in fraud to make it go all the way to Biden.

So evil.

Deplorable Patriot

Respectfully, the reality is that the sheep had to be shown what a sham network television is. How fake it is, and how reality is presented as fiction as well as setting up the people for the acceptance of paganism as a societal norm. That was part of the Great Awakening, actually.

I’ll give it a shot, but shows like the ones mentioned, are a turn off to me. “America’s Got Talent” and all of that…no. Just no. It’s a personal preference.


Pro Tip:

If you need to infiltrate a radical lefty meeting you’ll need to blend in. They’ll throw you out on your ear if you don’t.

The solution:

Bug-eye glasses. Wear them in the lib meetings, and don’t forget to take a recording device with you.

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Valerie Curren

about says it all!
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Any costco shoppers here able to confirm prices like this where you are?

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Valerie Curren

Shopping at Sam’s yesterday hubby said ground beef was up 10 cents a pound but chicken (usually boneless, skinless breasts) was steady…


Valerie…same at WINCO and Kroger.
Everything fully stocked, too. Everything.
I’m gonna monitor each wk…maybe make a graph, ha!

Valerie Curren

Maybe it’s going to be like rolling blackouts. Random & inconsistent losses. Or like those psych experiments where they taught dogs “learned helplessness” where they used inconsistent electric shock to train them into hopelessness. They learned there was nothing they could do to escape the pain so they just hunkered down & took it. The effect of that was that they would basically never leave the torture chamber, even when the metaphorical door was left wide open!


Ok good. Ive got to go get chicken on Friday. 1.99 lb for boneless on sale. Cannot find turkey bacon less than 2.75 for 12 ounces rn tho. 😫 progresso soup is .99 can too. Im running out of space! My mother gave me 10 lbs of butter sticks but its salted. Had to buy can corn with salt bc unsalted was out, unless i wanted to pay more than double for organic unsalted. Ill just have to rinse well and not add salt i suppose.

Valerie Curren

Keep us posted on the basics as you notice!

Cuppa Covfefe

At least not moving 😀  🐤 

Valerie Curren

For now…

Valerie Curren

NIH “corrects” (distorts?) the record…
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The NIH issued a correction today for previous statements made by NIH director Francis Collins and NIAID’s Dr. Fauci that the NIH did not fund gain of function research in Wuhan.
The NIH states that the Ecohealth Alliance violated the terms and conditions of NIH grant AI110964.

Valerie Curren

From the comments
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Sounds like Fauxi and Collins are getting skeered.

Valerie Curren

Let’s hope so!!!

Wolf Moon

Things are getting SPICY!!!


Good stuff.

Wolf Moon

TikTok. ChiComs are wildly running around figuring out what to do about this one!!!

Valerie Curren

God’s glorious creation!
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A Divine Sunset – Grand Teton Mountains, Wyoming…


h/t kyblue:


That doesn’t surprise me, but what need does Romney have for donations? Does he think he will run for president again? LOL


He probably does. But I doubt he will even win his next Utah Senate race.


Hope not! But we don’t need a Dem to take his place. He needs to be primaried by a patriot.

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Valerie Curren

Shocked, shocked I say!/s


Joe Biden, Democrats Furious After Senate Republicans Block Democrats’ ‘Voting Rights’ Bill

The US Senate on Wednesday held a vote on the motion to invoke cloture on the Democrats’ ‘voting rights’ legislation.

60 votes were needed to open debate — the senate voted 49 yeas to 51 nays.

Senate Republicans poured cold water on the Democrats’ bill and Joe Biden is furious.

The Democrats’ voting bill would be a federal takeover of elections and would eliminate voter ID, force 37 states to adopt automatic voter registration (which would lead to illegals being registered) and force states to allow felons to vote.

Cue Chucky, lying again.

Schumer went off on Republicans from the senate floor.

“Let there be no mistake, Senate Republicans blocking debate today is an implicit endorsement of the horrid new voter suppression and election subversion laws pushed in conservative states across the country,” Schumer said.


Wonder who the D or I was that, voted against this.

But yea, shockingly, apparently all Rs voted against the lunatic D-rat bill.


I wondered that too.


Sinema maybe? Manchin talks a good game but always caves in the end.


Yea. One of the two.

Sinema certainly trying to become the “maverick”. Manhin is simply owned, and seemingly always caves.

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Wolf Moon

“Schuck you, Fumer!”


Whenever they mention Uncle Chuckles speaking (on anything), I always envision him like this, and then I read what he has to say as if he is speaking….

…after having inhaled helium….

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Valerie Curren

Hopefully that voice seems more melodious on helium. It’s like those timid speakers imagining their audience naked & then someone finding their courage!


From Gab:

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Cuppa Covfefe

Shades of “Deteriorata” from National Lampoon parody of Desiderata from 1972 [wow, has it been that long????]

(You are a fluke of the universe.
You have no right to be here.
Deteriorata, Deteriorata)

Go placidly amidst the noise and waste, and remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof. Avoid quiet and passive persons, unless you are in need of sleep. Rotate your tires. Speak glowingly of those greater than yourself; and heed well their advice, even though they be turkeys. Know what to kiss – and when. Consider that two wrongs never make a right, but that three do. Wherever possible, put people on hold. Be comforted, that in the face of all irridity and disillusionment, and despite the changing fortunes of time, there is always a big future in computer maintenance.

(You are a fluke of the universe.
You have no right to be here.
Whether you can hear it or not,
The universe is laughing behind your back.)

Remember the Pueblo. Strive at all times to bend, fold, spindle, and mutilate. Know yourself. If you need help, call the FBI. Exercise caution in your daily affairs, especially with those persons closest to you… That lemon on your left, for instance. Be assured that a walk through the seas of most souls would scarcely get your feet wet. Fall not in love, therefore, it will stick to your face. Gracefully surrender the things of youth: the birds, clean air, tuna, Taiwan – and let not the sands of time get in your lunch. Hire people with hooks. For a good time, call 606-4311, ask for Ken. Take heart in the deepening gloom that your dog is finally getting enough cheese. And reflect that whatever misfortune may be your lot, it could only be worse in Milwaukee.

(You are a fluke of the universe.
You have no right to be here.
Whether you can hear it or not,
The universe is laughing behind your back.)

Therefore, make peace with your god, whatever you perceive him to be: hairy thunderer or cosmic muffin. With all its hopes, dreams, promises, and urban renewal, the world continues to deteriorate. GIVE UP!

(You are a fluke of the universe.
You have no right to be here.
Whether you can hear it or not,
The universe is laughing behind your back.)

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Valerie Curren

Wow, not familiar here but seems apropos for these dark days…


Allowing for variation, transhumanists confess there is no God but the future Computer God. They believe neuroprosthetics will allow communion with this artificial deity. They believe robot companions should be normalized. They believe longevity tech will confer approximate immortality. They believe virtual reality provides a life worth living. Above all, they believe the Singularity is near.

According to the Cult of the Singularity and its prophet, Ray Kurzweil, we’ll see artificial general intelligence by 2029. Unlike narrow algorithms performing specific tasks, AGI will be robust cognition enacted by neural networks, far faster than any human brain.

By 2045 (or 2049), we will hit the Singularity — when artificial superintelligencesurpasses human intellect to the point we cannot comprehend its output. Purely organic humans will be left in the smart dust. Our only chance for long-term survival is to fuse our minds and bodies with the All-Powerful Machine — to become a new posthuman species.

Therefore, our meaning in life is to make sure the future Computer God is benevolent, while we still have time. 



So what he’s saying is, we should pull the plug on Skynet BEFORE it achieves self-awareness.


There may be something to that…

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It would make perfect sense for the anti-Christ to be a huma-noid, created by man.

”Look upon my powers and worship me.”

11 Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth.It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon.12 It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. 13 And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to the earth in full view of the people. 14 Because of the signs it was given power to perform on behalf of the first beast, it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.


transhumanists confess there is no God but the future Computer God

They have given us an excellent reason to counter everything they are doing, then. We already knew this, but they’re right out in the open about it. What they are doing is somewhat religious in nature, and certainly differs from the religious beliefs of many of us. So we can be open about our vehement opposition, too, with the assertion that “thou shalt have no other gods before Me.”

the Singularity — when artificial superintelligence surpasses human intellect to the point we cannot comprehend its output

Someone — I can’t remember who — has said this is not possible. I hope they’re right.


It’s actually not that uncommon with computers that I “cannot comprehend its output.”

Cuppa Covfefe



Or, make something idiot-proof, and someone comes up with a better idiot…

Faulty programs are proof positive that alongside artificial “intelligence” flourishes REAL STUPIDITY…

Years ago, El Reg ( mocked and pilloried a transhumanist/cyborg-loving professor, I think at Uni Warwickshire. mercilessly and seemingly daily (he was a rich target, so to speak).

Judging from their recent and wildly leftist/commie effusions, I rather expect that they would welcome him with open claws, erm, arms now…..

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Cuppa Covfefe



They won’t be happy until they can say, “In the beginning, MAN created the Heavens and the Earth”…

But they are of the darkness, and cannot (and will not) comprehend the LIGHT.

Romans 1:16-32 says (especially verse 22):

16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Wolf Moon

From GAB…..

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