DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20211223

I don’t know where I found this, but just about any media can be used to create beauty.

Coming soon….

About being “woke” (I first typed that wok. Wrong decade.)

Well, one guy who isn’t bored said this in an interview with the Babylon Bee podcast:

The interview itself covers a broad range of topics that are most interesting and the science people among us might enjoy his discussion on space travel, alternative energy, etc. (It was great background noise for various activities. My mother had the radio, I have internet videos.) Disagreeing is fine, but it is amazing that this guy built two very valuable companies out of nothing.

Another video came up, and while the conversation is difficult to hear, it is a bit of a gut check to see James O’Keefe in a bullet proof vest.

These people are putting their lives on the line for us, just not the way the other side wants us to.

What we need to remember.

Speaking of…this wouldn’t work:

Because of this.

Maybe this is why so many are willing just to lay down and surrender to the tyranny.

More memes as Twitter was a COVID ghetto, and I’m starting my COVID fast.

Well…..

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One of the obstacles to full understanding of just what the enemy is all about revolves around the concept of symbolism.

Short answer:

The three gifts are mentioned throughout the Bible and are ubiquitous in Moses’ story  — gold for the Ark of the Covenant and the Temple’s altar, tabernacle and decorations; frankincense to purify the temple and myrrh to anoint sacred people and objects.  

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MALACHI 3:1-4, 23-24

31“Behold, I send my messenger to prepare the way before me, and the Lord whom you seek will suddenly come to his temple; the messenger of the covenant in whom you delight, behold, he is coming, says the LORD of hosts. 2But who can endure the day of his coming, and who can stand when he appears? “For he is like a refiner’s fire and like fullers’ soap; 3he will sit as a refiner and purifier of silver, and he will purify the sons of Levi and refine them like gold and silver, till they present right offerings to the LORD. 4Then the offering of Judah and Jerusalem will be pleasing to the LORD as in the days of old and as in former years. 45“Behold, I will send you Eli’jah the prophet before the great and terrible day of the LORD comes. 6And he will turn the hearts of fathers to their children and the hearts of children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the land with a curse.”

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JP is on a roll.

He really shouldn’t give them any ideas.

Hey, red hen Jen:

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cthulhu

Whenever any woke idiot goes after the Second Amendment, I always wonder what he thinks he knows about the people who wrote it.

In order to defeat the British, patriots were volunteering their private cannons for Washington’s army.

cthulhu

Interesting. JP’s house uses the same Home Depot tile for the kitchen backsplash and backing for his fireplace…..

cthulhu

The only problem with those cute niches is that they generally lack AC power.

Barb Meier

I have some little open closets in my sunroom. Fortunately, one backs to a nice cedar closet in another room, so we were able to easily run wiring for a security system. That little closet also has an electric outlet as designed. The previous owners were going to make it into a telephone booth. They had lots of kids and grandkids so the idea of quiet phone conversations seemed appealing to them.

piper567

Barb, that telephone booth is actually a nifty idea!
Something to keep in mind when remodeling…Thanks for mentioning this.

GA/FL

Builders do that. I have the same tile on the fireplace surround as the bath and kitchen floor.

cthulhu

Yeah, that’s always been part of the game when you’re banging-out cookie-cutter subdivisions, but I had been thinking the rest of his home looked a little bit more upscale.

And, BTW, I live in a cookie-cutter home built in 1955. It has amazing solid “bones” to it, and has been internally modified to where it is quite distinct from the rest of the neighborhood (as about 1/3 of the nearby homes have been). It has some peculiarities — e.g. the forced-air heating treated ductwork like it was solid gold [current practice is to put registers near windows, not as close to the furnace as possible].

gil00

Near the window? That is odd.

cthulhu

The idea being that that’s the area in your house that gets cold. So you heat near the windows based on the temperature in the center of the house.

Same thing applies for AC. It’s likely that more heat is coming in through windows than through insulated walls.

gil00

Ok. Well it makes sense. My old single pane windows are awful 😫.

Gail Combs

Blinds and heavy drapes and weatherstripping if you do not plan to replace.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Or you can retrofit another pane of glass in; that’s how my family did “storm windows” when I was a kid. There was a sliding window inside the “main” sliding window.

It meant you couldn’t put bric-a-brac on the window ledges but that was probably a good thing.

gil00

Our windows are crappy aluminum frame. We will probably do the upstairs ones in spring.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yeah, that sounds like what we had.

No concept of sealing whatsoever, beyond some sort of stripping keeping the glass in its frame.

singingsoul1

My house has still the 1920 windows and steam heat. The radiators are under the windows. We have been debating to replace the windows just one problem I love the woodwork and would have to give that up I think?
The windows still have weights that pull the window up and down. The previous owner got rid of the storm windows I believe the cost of having someone take the windows up and and down the second floor was to costly. Unless one was able to install the windows from the insight. Lazy I think .
They took some doors out going from the front hall entrance to the living room and on the other site to the dining room. Having doors I could close them and the house would be even warmer 🙂
In the back hall I have two doors one to go into the living room one kitchen. When I close them it gets warm very fast.
I am not complaining the house is nice warm as is. The woodwork in this house is beautiful. I should think of when I get older 🙂

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cthulhu

You’re not talking about “remodeling” or “repair” as much as you’re talking about “restoration”….which tends to be much more expensive.

singingsoul1

We did remodeling and restoration about 34 years ago but I did not wanted to get rid of the windows. We did floors and walls and kitchen and two bathrooms. Did not touch the woodwork or crystal doorknobs. We did work on the outside also.
Vinal windows turn me off.

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cthulhu

Perhaps you could have their glass replaced?

singingsoul1

Never thought of that !

singingsoul1

replaced the furnace 5 years ago. This one looks like a box and is small compared to what was there. Yes steam is very nice.

Cuppa Covfefe

We have radiant heating in the floors (Fußbodenheizung) and radiators, of course. Makes all the difference in the world on REALLY cold days. Our windows are double-glazed, but could probably do with being triple-glazed or have some sort of gas in them to up their R-Value.

I’ve even heard talk of quad-glazed (probably more green nonsense), but the cost there would be astronomical. Our living room windows are floor-to-ceiling (east and south side) so some *cough* opportunities for energy saving are there (if we were rich enough to afford them   :wpds_cry: 

singingsoul1

Sounds nice and warm specially from floor heating. My daughter has some of it in her house she love it.
We do have southern windows that make a difference even in winder standing against the wall outside it seems warm. Our house has double walls that helps.

cthulhu

We used to have an eight foot single-pane sliding glass door that was incredible — it was like having a wall of ice in our living room.

Replacing windows is not too terrible of a project, BTW. (You generally don’t have to spend any time under sinks.)

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gil00

We have 2 sliders. 1 and the adjacent window were replaced by previous owners w double pane, luckily its the 1 we use daily. The other is original and has a long non opening window right above it, which i hate. The glass in the slider is defective, you can push it out concave a little bit. That replacement will be a lot bc we will get rid of the stupid window above it.

cthulhu

Getting rid of a window should be extremely cheap. After all, it’s already framed so that area can be “air”, so all you have to do is put “wall” in there.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Ironically, for a load bearing wall, a “hole” is heavier than a solid wall, at least while it is being framed. The header over the hole is heavy.

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. They need a Lintel filter for them to keep all the dust out 😀

We have an opening in the wall of our kitchen downstairs, which is a load-bearing wall…. boy howdy, the rules, regulations, and calculations that went on with that when our house was being built… talk about terminal bureaucracy… but FAR better safe than sorry, especially considering the load above it…

(Then again, if someone burns dinner, etc., it might have been better to leave it closed up 🙂 )….

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Or if they serve chard.

cthulhu

Chard what?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Exactly.

cthulhu

Check to see if a glazier can just replace the glass with something double-paned.

cthulhu

If it’s anything but the north side of your house, low-e would probably be good, argon-filled would be nice, and I like the internal-divided look (particularly on things like sliders, as it keeps people/dogs/birds from casually trying to go through them).

Barb Meier

Double-paned and the inside pane might be stained glass. I have a small bathroom window and would love to have it changed to stained glass. Instead, I added inexpensive vinyl that sticks to the window in a stained glass pattern. I’ve even gotten compliments on the window.

gil00

That is nice. Even w the blinds you can feel it coming through.

gil00

I have small tile on the fire place surround, that random placed 4 different sized on a sheet and the hearth is similar in color but not exact to the floor.

cthulhu

BTW, if it hasn’t started raining yet, this would be a good time to make sure everything outside is ready for it.

gil00

It has! Took the dig out at 130 am, wet outside a little. Slept in til 7 today and it was heavy sprinkle. Been raining light since. We had a leak in the garage wvlast week’s storm. Super super windy then, notsure if that pushed rain under the tiles or what, but it stopped when the rain stopped. Have a roofer coming on Monday to check. Leak is next to garage door. Hopefully nothing major. No broken or moved tiles i see.

cthulhu

The thing that actually keeps water out is the “membrane” (typically tar-paper). The shingles or tiles on the top are merely “bodyguards” for the membrane.

gil00

After the storm last night, no leak that we see yet.

Linda

Jimmy Carter was bad, but he wasn’t a demented pedophile.

Linda

Obama was MUCH worse.

cthulhu

I thought you were comparing Carter with Biden….

Linda

I was. But if we are comparing bad presidents, Carter never reached the level of bad that Obama did.

smiley2

obama’s the motherlode of “worse”.

he sets the bar real low.

Gail Combs

Actually FDR did. OH!Bummer built on the nasty hill FDR created.

prognosticatasaurusrex

Yep! the “new deal” was totally anti Constitutional. Antithetical to all the founders wrote. Carter was an incompetent boob who later became a globalist AFTER his time in the Whitehouse. Now Minka’s dad is another story.

Obama was a DISASTER. We was likely a Clown In Action creation. He learned Chicago bully politics, and sold us out as bad as the Clintons did. He also was also the first homosexual president, Muslim, and LIKELY SATANIC.

He was nowhere near as smart as he pretended, but he was ruthless and Chicago smart. He HATED and still does hate Americans of ALL races, he just hated whites worse.

As for Pedo Joe. He is a crook, always has been. He is also a bully, look no further than what he did to Clarence Thomas and Robert Bjork. He and his entire sick demented hair sniffing, groping family, the apple does NOT fall far from the tree, are the epitome of everything the Founders WARNED us about in the enemy within. He is likely a puppet for Obama, who is still setting the agenda. 3 of the 4 worst Presidents in history in my lifetime, thankfully balanced by two of the best. (Trump and Reagan)

gil00

Mr Gil always says obummer didnt do as much damage then as he could have bc he’s too lazy abd was more interested in the benefits, money, and parties.

prognosticatasaurusrex

Obama was less the puppet people make him to be, and less lazy too. He was 100% AGAINST America AND Americans. He worked TIRELESSLY at it.

Remember, it takes EFFORT to clean up a mess. It also takes EFFORT to CREATE a mess. The status quo is EASY.

cthulhu

Was Edgar Bergen funny, or Charlie McCarthy? My own take is that Valjar was the Bergen to Obama’s McCarthy.

prognosticatasaurusrex

Possible, but she for sure was his Iran and MB handler.

cthulhu

I have to say that the mental image of the jurist as a quixotic Icelandic musician is quite amusing.

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Barb Meier

It might be decades before we uncover all the sneaky bad things done by BO’s admin.

prognosticatasaurusrex

Sooner than you might think…wink. Pay attention in the coming weeks. CLOSE attention. BIG things start innocuously.

BillBeakman

Indeed, & let’s not forget!

EllieLA

My Dad Hated FDR. The only person he hated more was Eleanor.

gil00

Was she a lesbian?

EllieLA

Probably, most likely. She was also a Communist and started the League of Nations/ UN.
Hillary liked to “Chanel” her.

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gil00

Ugh. So she was a witch 🧙‍♀️ too?

EllieLA

Looked like a Duck and walked like a Duck, so…

Gail Combs

Remember Billy Clinton Said in a video that Hitlery used to commune with Eleanor.

https://www.skywatchtv.com/2019/08/18/how-hillarys-seances-led-democrats-to-embrace-the-occult/

How did Marianne Williamson, the author of 21 Spiritual Lessons for Surrendering Your Weight Forever, and other stuff you might see on the bottom layer of a garage sale, end up on the 2020 debate stage? Marianne teaching you spiritual lessons about weight loss on an episode of Oprah does. Hillary Clinton held a séance in the White House. The seance overseen by Jean Houston, the author of The Hero and the Goddess: The Odyssey as Pathway to Personal Transformation, encouraged Hillary to contact Eleanor Roosevelt. Hillary and Houston hit it off after the Clintons invited self-help book authors to Camp David to help them cope with their defeat. The authors included Marianne Williamson. Marianne Williamson had reportedly participated in some of Hillary’s White House seances…

more:
https://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1018.html

NEWS BRIEF:“Hillary Clinton says imaginary talks just ‘intellectual exercise’, The Providence Journal Bulletin, Tuesday, 6/25/96, p. A3. “Hillary Rodham Clinton said yesterday her imaginary conversations with Eleanor Roosevelt were merely an ‘intellectual exercise’ … Trying to douse what she called ‘sensational’ speculation, the first lady rejected inferences that psychic researcher Jean Houston, who led her in several White House sessions, was her ‘spiritual adviser’.”

I distinctly remember the video Billy boy talking about Hitlery’s conversations with Eleanor. It was on the Other treehouse.

EllieLA

Thank you, Gail! I have a good memory of what was said in the past, but finding and citing exact links is beyond my internet capabilities.

gil00

Ah wow.

Sylvia Avery

With good reason. She was even more hardcore lefty than FDR.

Cuppa Covfefe

LBJ didn’t only have a “hevuh heart”, he had a heavy hand in making things bad, too… real crooked SOB he was…

rayzorback

he wasn’t a demented pedophile”

That we know of….

Linda

He didn’t have obvious dementia like Biden. But you’re right about the other part.

Aubergine

Say what you want about Carter, but I’m fairly certain the man was a Christian.

Terrible President.

TradeBait2

Is he? I have no idea. For many will come in my name… (Matt. 24:5). Jesus will decide. I do know that if he is, he will lose rewards for his positions on abortion, homosexuality, etc.

https://banneroftruth.org/us/resources/articles/2000/former-president-jimmy-carter-leaves-the-southern-baptist-convention/

kalbokalbs

And the third worst president in my lifetime.

Aubergine

Yeah, he sucked at being President. Really, really sucked.

RF121

So an update to my travels in the Pacific Northwest. Completed a 10 day trip, mostly through central and eastern WA state for work a couple of weeks back. Kind of normal and I would say masks used by those that wanted to. I fasted the whole trip so that was different. Dropped 15 lbs of weight, killed the crud I had, and ended up with a 10 lb weight loss for the trip after the refeed. So a good time.

Back in the Portland area for two days this week. Does it ever not rain here? Did almost 300 miles today and could not see a damn thing for most of that. Supposed to be snow and ice next week. Mask compliance 99%. Lost cause.

Almost 2,300 miles in rental car miles this month. Yikes. Looking forward to a slower start to next year. My daughter is getting married on 1/14 so no out of State travels until that is done. Apparently I have to dress up and do what I am told for a day. Have to get a new suit as my current ones did not pass the wife and daughter inspection standards. Too baggy apparently.

I recommended Vegas to get married as me and the wife did 33 years ago. I wore shorts and and a T shirt. Got vetoed on that also.

Being busy, so I better wish every one a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

2022 has to be better then 2021.

cthulhu

Mazel Tov on the wedding, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

rayzorback

Apparently I have to dress up and do what I am told for a day.”

“did not pass the wife and daughter inspection standards”

Hmmm….

Sometimes…. we have to stand up 🙂

RF121

For my daughter, I will.

rayzorback

I understand….. I would for my daughter too 🙂

cthulhu

What kind of a fast? Looks like it was mostly the right kind.

RF121

It was water and coffee. Some cough drops for when I was flying plus my zinc, quercetin, d3 travel pack.

cthulhu

That’s pretty hard-core (approves).

RF121

True. Takes time to build up to that. Was my first 10 day but I would say it was my easiest fast.

cthulhu

I suspect it’s a lot like breath-hold diving. There are valid safety systems saying that you must continue these processes or you will die…..and you have to convince your body that you have a bit more time than that, and you have a plan to get back toward normal.

RF121

Mainly getting your body used to running on ketones (fat) and not glucose (sugar). There is a difference between having ketones and being able to run on ketones with plenty of energy.

Sylvia Avery

Hope we treated you well in Washington. It’s good you were in the saner half of the state. Congratulations on your daughter’s wedding. Your discussion about your suit made me think of that movie Father of the Bride. Pretty funny.

Merry Christmas RF121.

RF121

The solution was staying out of Seattle. Everywhere else was definitely saner.

Gail Combs

I very much agree!

RDS

Thank you for a great ground report. That really is a lot of miles to log!
Congratulations on your daughter’s upcoming wedding. I hope it all goes off without a problem.
You’re right about 2022 — please, Almighty God, a better year.
Sending Good Energy and Sound Health to you and yours.

singingsoul1

That you for your trip report 🙂
Glad you overcame Covid and are ok now?
Congratulation becoming a father in law 🙂
Yes weddings are something fathers of daughters have to accommodate wishes.
Merry Christmas to you and your family  🌲 

gil00

Hope the wedding and the suit wearing goes well. Vegas just isnt quite the right place Dad, but it wouldve been a lot cheaper. Shouldve played it that youd help with stuff for the new home, but its ok.
Glad youre all the way better.
Merry Christmas.

rayzorback

Maybe off topic here… but….

What if the “Omicron” … “Variant”…
was put out here to END the covid bs by the “White Hats”?

Linda

Yes, some of us have that same suspicion.

cthulhu

It would be a cute “love letter” from the Ft. Detrick group to the Wuhan collaborators….

“Y’know, some of us know how to do this stuff right — not like your half-assed pangolin bat-soup lab-leak crap.”

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rayzorback

LOL!!!.. Yep.

Gail Combs

ESPECIALLY after the CDC shut them down!

CDC Shuts Down Army Lab’s Disease Research – The Scientist

CDC Shuts Down Army Lab’s Disease Research. … R esearch on dangerous pathogens has been suspended at an Army lab at Fort Detrick in Maryland after the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found biosafety lapses there,

Anyone who has been through a government ‘inspection’ knows what happens all depends upon whether or not they are out to get you. I won’t go into my long list. 😎

singingsoul1

Did not Dr Hatfield worked at the Army Lab’s Disease Research? Is it not interesting how he surfaced again on Bannon yesterday?
If someone worked for good would be Hatfield and maybe others who wanted to save the country ? Just wondering not saying it is so.
Hatfield worked with Peter Nevaro in the WH on finding a way against the covid virus.

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Gail Combs

THE SHARYL ATTKISSON PODCAST (27 min) @ Just the News:

Coronavirus: “Mother Nature’s Last Warning”

If you know the name Dr. Steven Hatfill, it might be from an infamous incident that happened in the 2001-2002 time period. Hatfill had been a biodefense researcher at the US Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases at Fort Detrick, Maryland. And he’d also worked for National Institutes of Health. He was a biodefense expert, and it turns out he was wrongly blamed by the FBI, implicated in these anthrax attacks where somebody mailed deadly anthrax spores to some media and political figures in 2001. The FBI was leaking his name to the press. Somebody tipped off the news when they went to search his home and drain a pond and so on….. 

That guy will have ZERO love for the FBI.

…..

Dr. Hatfill: Boosters Won’t Protect You From Omnicron – It’s A Traveling Vaccine 4 minute clip
https://rumble.com/vr9ej9-dr.-hatfill-boosters-wont-protect-you-from-omnicron-its-a-traveling-vaccine.html

I t think they are the same guy.

Here is a photo from New York Slimes at the time Aug. 12, 2002. LINK

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singingsoul1

Yes I remember that was injustice if I ever saw one. Yes seems to be the same. Need to listen to the video.

Sylvia Avery

I’ve wondered that myself……

trumpismine

Herd immunity?

para59r

Expect that Biden will take credit for it. It should though, expose more of their lies and thus we should be ready to pounce.

Gail Combs

I do not think the White Hats care.

Remember Biden’s approval among INDEPENDENTS is in the 20s! I can not find the clip I want but there is this:

December 16, 2021 (4 minutes)
Historic Number Of Americans Feel That The Economy Isn’t In Good Shape
https://rumble.com/vqwci5-historic-number-of-americans-feel-that-the-economy-isnt-in-good-shape.html

@ 1:15 Shows ECONOMIST** chart so you can read it.

Direction of country: right track wrong track
Headed in Right direction 26% total, Black- 49%, Hispanic – 31% ,Female – 25%
WRONG direction. 59% total


@ 2;30 new slide on State of the Economy.

EXCELLENT: doesn’t get off the floor!!! TOTAL is 4%, goes from 1% to a high of 8% for Hispanics. Female 2%, Blacks 3%

Good: 19% total

AND PEOPLE’S VOTE DEPENDS ON THE ECONOMY. The vote their comfort.
….

Earlier September 2, 2021

There’s An Implosion Of Biden In The Polls (11 minutes)
https://rumble.com/vm02wr-theres-an-implosion-of-biden-in-the-polls.html

@ 2:15
38 — 40% with Independents (They are using D + 14)

….

** The Economist according to Steve Bannon, is the paper of Wall Street and the Party of Davos.

Gail Combs

“….What if the “Omicron” … “Variant”…
was put out here to END the covid bs by the “White Hats”?
….

That is certainly what I am thinking.

prognosticatasaurusrex

Yep it was, by THE White hat of ALL White Hats, the Lord. Funny how EVILs plans are always laid to waste by something unexpected isn’t it. God works is subtle and mysterious ways. Just when all seems lost, a light at the end of the tunnel appears.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj7q5LEp_r0AhW0kYkEHcqlAvcQ3yx6BAgREAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dy_4Xfj2LRSA&usg=AOvVaw3dnzeUvwGJ2zt3YDYd2q85

prognosticatasaurusrex

Well that did not work LOL supposed to be a link to Alabama’s Angels among us. Sorry

Gail Combs

google and Angels are just not compatible!

prognosticatasaurusrex

Gee, wonder why that is. (sarc)

gil00

Thats interesting. Would be great if true.

scott467

That guy with the long hair, I notice he does a LOT of cross-dressing.

Aubergine

I love J. P. I think he is utterly un-self conscious, one of my favorite qualities in a person. He’s hilarious.

And I have to say, I don’t mind at all when his straps fall down 😉

scott467

“And I have to say, I don’t mind at all when his straps fall down”

_____________

That’s actually the main reason why I almost never watch him.

If he’s appealing to a female audience, then I guess that approach works.

If he’s appealing to a male audience — or a male and female audience — then another strategy might be in order… 😉

Naked dudes and dudes dressed up like women is guaranteed to make me change the channel… that I can tell you… 😁

Aubergine

Lol! I get it.

TradeBait2

It’s a poke at the trannies because he is so over the top with it.

marymorse
Gail Combs

OH CRAP!!! I never thought of that.

When I lived in an Upstate NY city, if we had a really heavy snow, I would go around with my shovel and shovel for the elderly folks so they did not have to do it. (And I wonder why I have back trouble…)

singingsoul1

My Haiti neighbor shovels our sidewalk and up steps before we get up. He says he has fun doing so. He is a sweetheart and his wife is Hispanic. Good people and Christians. I hear Christian music coming from their home. They seem Evangelical. If a person is old Evangelical always help and refuse pay.

Gail Combs

Mucking out stalls keeps me in shape for snow shoveling. 🙄😖

eilert

This is some of the 3hour of video footage of Jan 6 in the tunnel, which the judge ordered to be released:

eilert
GA/FL

YEP – obviously a False Flag – a FBI operation – just like Charlottesville, the MI Governor Kidnapping Plot and a host of others.

Wray’s lies about ‘white supremacists’t being the USA’s biggest terror threat make perfect sense now.

GA/FL

#7 TOP TWENTY TWEETS

Why does a Capitol Police officer have prison tattoos?

https://directorblue.blogspot.com/2021/12/top-20-tweets-from-badblue-tonight_22.html#more

GA/FL

It’s looking like the US Gov Capitol Police, under orders from Pelosi, beat and killed a number of US citizens – from Ashli Babbitt and others.

It also looks like there were trained fed excalators trying to incite a riot – and failed.

Trump MAGA patriots didn’t kill anyone.

Gail Combs

EXACTLY!!
In the background Hubby is playing:

cthulhu

Needs something to the tune of Jingle bells:

Kristallnacht, Kristallnacht, it’s coming to your town….
From SF to the Big Apple, it’s what’s coming down….
Watch rioters loot and see them burn, while cops just stay away….
Kristallnacht, Kristallnacht, is just another day.

scott467

Market-Ticker:

Here’s A Reality Check
Karl Denninger
12-21-21

“To Joe, to all the Reeeing Karens, to Jerome Powell, to Anthony Fraudci and hundreds more:

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If you don’t read sign language I’ll do it in English: **** YOU.
Oh, yes, the stawk market looooves it some bull**** out of the ******* makers. Moderna’s shares were on a tear yesterday — until people said “wait a second, what?” Why? Because muh variant, that’s why. Who forgot that everyone, including Moderna, Pfizer, Biden, Fauci and everyone else just a few months ago told us all: If you take these shots you won’t get *****. We’re sure of it.

It was a lie.

It wasn’t an error, it was a lie.

I pointed out originally when the trials were going on that they were both underpowered and deliberately did not seek to demonstrate that the jabs actually prevented getting ***** or transmitting it to others. Proving that is indeed possible but it takes more people, far better surveillance with routine tests on a once or twice a week basis across the entire jabbed population and thus you build statistical evidence. For an EUA we did not require it, the FDA did not demand it, neither did Trump or HHS and thus we didn’t get it.

In short there was no reason at all to believe that they worked in that fashion — that is, that any sort of public-health argument for them would ever have merit. At best the EUA process undertaken was one that could potentially demonstrate that for a short time, a few months, one obtained a personal benefit.

Note: Personal benefit.

This made the entire edifice of using these jabs as a means of “ending the pandemic” an outright fraud. I so-noted at the time, roughly one year ago.

Nobody cared and I was called all manner of crazy.

Well, I was right. Not because I wanted to be right, but because I was; there simply was no evidence demanded or developed that durable and stable immunity, never mind interrupting transmission, was possible with this path. It had never worked before and we did not demand it of the manufacturers for authorization.

Now maybe that’s good enough on a voluntary basis. Or is it?

Well, only if you clearly and fairly disclose the risks.

Which, as with Vioxx, was in the original data. Of course you had to look, and you had to care. You also had to run to the ground that which was developed early; in September 2020, to be exact, there was scientific evidence that the spike protein, absent the rest of the virus, was individually dangerous.  This discovery did set off further inquiry and it was subsequently confirmed.

We did none of that further investigation on a formal basis nor did we care or act on that which was developed.

We didn’t do it with Vioxx either, did we? Nope — that took 60,000 dead Americans and five years before we cut the bull****, and that was for a drug that helped with pain from arthritis!  

This is a global cash cow and if it makes people sick and thus forces them to take even more drugs and spend more money in the hospital that’s good for all the ghouls bank accounts.  That you get ****ed in the process is a call the Whaaambulance event and all of this has occurred because you let it happen.

Pfizer has disclosed in their own data that for young people the shots are as dangerous, as measured in hospitalization, for ***** as they are for caused myocarditis.  Since infection is never certain but inoculation, once you take it, is there was never an argument for authorizing these jabs in healthy young people simply on the math.  We did it anyway and we’re still advocating it.”

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kalbokalbs

The only fraud bigger than Covid IS Covid injections.

Aubergine

AMEN!

Gail Combs

….Proving that is indeed possible but it takes more people, far better surveillance with routine tests on a once or twice a week basis across the entire jabbed population and thus you build statistical evidence. For an EUA we did not require it, the FDA did not demand it, neither did Trump or HHS and thus we didn’t get it….

ERR so were was the HERO  Doctor Eric Topol???  

…. Topol, who works at the Scripps Research Institute in La Jolla and is one of the country’s most prominent doctors, aimed to prevent Trump from greenlighting a vaccine before scientists could prove it to be safe and effective. To Topol, developing an effective vaccine against covid-19 is “the biggest event in our generation” and one that should be evaluated on the basis of scientific data, not political implications….

…Releasing a vaccine that people are afraid of could do more harm than good.

To prevent such a scenario, Topol led online calls for FDA commissioner Steve Hahn to resign after his agency was criticized for cowing to political pressure—and then phoned Hahn a number of times to urge him to resist Trump’s influence. Topol also targeted Pfizer, the only pharmaceutical company likely to seek approval of its vaccine before Election Day, which eventually set up a meeting for him with its vaccine team.

On October 16, Topol and his allies were able to claim success…

https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/10/19/1010646/campaign-stop-covid-19-vaccine-trump-election-day/

Topol – Hahn (Head of FDA) transcript: (7 pages)

October 9, 2020
FDA’s Hahn to Topol: Decisions Will Be Made Based on Science Alone

Eric J. Topol, MD: Hello. I’m Eric Topol, editor-in-chief of Medscape, and I have the privilege today to interview Dr Stephen Hahn, the commissioner of the FDA. So, Stephen, welcome. It’s great to have you with us.

Stephen M. Hahn, MD: Well, Eric, it’s great to be here. I appreciate the invitation. And I’m looking forward to our conversation. These are really important topics for the country.

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There are two important points of EUA. One is that, from a treatment or a therapeutic point of view, the standard is “may be effective.” There has to be evidence that something may be effective. We have to have data behind that.

The other one is the assessment of the risk-benefit ratio. And that’s where the safety comes in.  You can imagine a situation where you have an incredibly life-threatening infectious disease — COVID-19 and Ebola would be examples of that — where the risks are high. Eric, just like doctors would make a decision in a situation where the risk for death is high, you might accept more risk on the therapeutic side from a safety point of view.

And that, of course, plays directly into the issue of therapeutics vs vaccines, because therapeutics are given to people who are sick, maybe even in life-threatening situations. Vaccines are given to people who are, in general, healthy but may be at risk for life-threatening complications. All of that has to play into our decision-making, and that’s what the experts at FDA are really good at.

Topol: Well, that’s really being put to the test now with the vaccines. There are multiple phase 3 programs underway. We were fortunate that we pushed the manufacturers to release their protocols because I don’t think that was their initial intention, but they did. First it was Moderna and Pfizer, then AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson, and finally Novavax.

These protocols have a lot of homology. Most of them have approximately 150-160 endpoints of infections. These are some of the largest trials that have ever been conducted, from 30,000 enrollees up to 60,000 for Johnson & Johnson’s. What’s interesting here is that you have a relatively small number of events that could lead to an interim analysis — 32, for example, in Pfizer. And you’re extrapolating that to tens of millions, even hundreds of millions, of people.

Hahn: Eric, this is, as you point out, the central issue. It’s why we issued guidance on June 30th about our expectations. One of the reasons that these trials are the size they are is because we established a floor of 50% efficacy. Now, you and I and the rest of the country want to have a hugely efficacious vaccine and certainly a safe one. But these trials were powered and designed based upon that — detecting a 50% difference….

We have drawn from the beginning a very bright line between FDA activities and OWS. We provide technical assistance. But neither I, nor anyone at FDA, is involved in any decision-making, because think about it, Eric: Let’s say there’s a commercial company that’s developing a product. If FDA were involved in the commercial decisions of that company, how could we possibly be an independent regulator? So we’ve made it clear that we’re not going to — and we haven’t — participate in any decisions. We’ll provide them with technical advice just like we would for any other sponsor of a medical product. Now, OWS’s job is to work with various sponsors and manufacturers to facilitate the development of vaccines and other medical products. That’s actually happening. But we’re only in the position of providing technical assistance to them, which I think is the appropriate place for us to be….

I don’t think people know this, but the secretary of HHS by statute in the Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act delegates his authority to the commissioner of FDA. And I’ll go through that in just a minute.

What I’ve done, and what previous commissioners have done, is delegate that authority to the center directors — in this case, the Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research (CBER), and in terms of monoclonals, it’s the Center for Drug Evaluation and Research (CDER). So under my watch those decisions will be made by scientists within the centers.

Our expectation is that when an application comes to us — and again, that’s the decision a sponsor makes based upon their determination that data are mature — we’re going to work with them; we’re going to be flexible. But we’re also going to be insistent about our criteria. And we’ve communicated those criteria both in our guidance and also in letters to the manufacturers. Once a sponsor submits an application to us, we’re going to look at those data, but we’re also going to open this up to a vaccine advisory committee. That will allow us to have independent experts comment on this. So there are a lot of safeguards in place, both for our scientists and also for this external public-facing advisory committee, to assess those data. Everybody’s aware of that. I think when an application comes in, we’re confident that it’s going to be ready to be assessed. But either way, we promise that the process will be the same for every application.

Now, to speak to some theoretical situation where someone else could make the decision, it’s been made very clear to me by Secretary [Alex] Azar in HHS that they’re delegating this authority to us and that they have the same expectation with respect to our scientists making decisions. I’ve had no indication otherwise, and nor do I expect that, Eric.

Topol: That’s good to hear. That’s reassuring.

  :wpds_arrow: One of the troubling features here was that there was concern in the past around the EUAs for hydroxychloroquine and the convalescent plasma. But you took initiative here to tighten the EUA criteria for vaccines.  Back in June you established the vaccine efficacy criteria and you published it in The New England Journal of Medicine. And then more recently you said, “We’re going to make this tougher and we’re going to have this 2-month median safety follow-up; we’re going to require some serious COVID-19 events that have to be part of this.”.

trumpismine

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL!!!

Barb Meier

The white flag seems appropriate.

wowohwow1528

Wow I just saw slow Joe wander around the corner, it took 5 seconds .. he kept stumbling and tripping on in the shrubbery … holly jolly! 😊🎄🎶

kalbokalbs

The sentiment IS accurate. Sadly.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Great stuff!

trumpismine

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smiley2

the wheel is spinning…

but the hamster’s….

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have a Merry 4th of July thing, c’mon.

wowohwow1528

Mortimer Snurd, a very dark, dumb one

trumpismine

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kalbokalbs

I’d buy that sticker.

eilert

Pepe Lives Matter
@PepeLivesMatter17
15h
Me.
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duchess01

BE MY VOICE

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BABY LIVES MATTER

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duchess01

PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD

Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow, that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ.

AMEN.

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Dora
Dora

Bill Gates said he called off his Christmas plans as the gain-of-function omicron COVID variant ushers in what he predicts could be the “worst part of the pandemic.”
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Pretend president Joe Biden went live yesterday, informing unvaccinated Americans that nothing but ‘severe illness and death awaits you’ and telling vaccinated people they have nothing to worry about. Biden is dead wrong in both instances. So Bill Gates, the man who spent half a billion dollars funding 7 big pharma companies to create the vaccines, gloomily forecasted that ‘Christmas must be cancelled’ in lock-step of the Biden administration. Oh, really?
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https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/bill-gates-says-we-need-to-cancel-christmas-predicts-that-gain-of-function-omicron-will-be-worst-phase-yet-pandemic/

GA/FL

Gates, Fauci and Biden – three evil dudes trying to take away our liberty and lives.

Dora

Paid Abortion Leave For City Employees Poses New Questions.

In Boston, Pittsburgh and Portland, Oregon, pregnancy loss ‘bereavement’ policies have been extended to include elective abortions.
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https://www.ncregister.com/news/paid-abortion-leave-for-city-employees-poses-new-questions

para59r

They’ll end up wanting the same amount of time off people are now allowed for having a baby. It will work both as a mockery and as an incentive.

Dora

University of Hong Kong tears down Tiananmen Massacre statue overnight citing ‘safety’ and ‘colonial gov’t’ law.

HKU removed the Pillar of Shame overnight, without notice, whilst students were on break.

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https://hongkongfp.com/2021/12/23/university-of-hong-kong-tears-down-tiananmen-massacre-statue-overnight-citing-safety-and-colonial-govt-law/

prognosticatasaurusrex

So it begins.

cthulhu

Begins?

I’m thinking more “Commies gotta Commie”.

prognosticatasaurusrex

well that too,

GA/FL

Great Daily Open, D Pat!

We need the truth wrapped in funny memes to keep us going!

Dora
scott467

Excellent.

It’s what we’ve been saying here for at least a year, and we’ve known about Mattias Desmet and his mass psychosis theory since he was interviewed by the Reiner Fuellmuch and his legal team, at least 6 months ago or more, IIRC.

He (Dr. Malone, the speaker) covers nearly ALL the things we have been struggling to describe in our encounters with the ‘zombies’, the people who drank all the purple Kool Aid and can’t hear anything they haven’t been spoon-fed by legacy media.

smiley2

political hay

 👇  a very good read  👇 

The Failed Presidency of Franklin Roosevelt

he set the nation on a course of virtually unlimited federal power

article link…

https://spectator.org/the-failed-presidency-of-franklin-roosevelt/

12/20

required reading.

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Gail Combs

FDR tops my list of nasty evil presidents.

TradeBait2

Yes ^^^

Gail Combs

People have been puzzled and even angry as to why POTUS Trump continues to support the vaccine and even got the booster.

Yesterday in Wofie’s thread I said I thought it was because the Demon-Rats would try to hang the Clot Shot around his neck and HANG HIM, perhaps literally. Since he tossed his hat in the ring, they have set trap after trap and this is ONE HELL OF A NASTY TRAP!

Jack Posobiec tweeted a similar point of view.

In response Holly posted this comment:

Seems like that’s where this is heading…

One doctor’s campaign to stop a covid-19 vaccine being rushed through before Election Day

https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/10/19/1010646/campaign-stop-covid-19-vaccine-trump-election-day/

That is the publication of MIT and the rest of the heading is:
How Heart Doctor Eric Topol used his social-media account to kill off Trump’s October Surprise.

So I read it (You only get two free) and then followed up the leads. I get to Dr Topol last.

The above MIT review cited a Washington Compost article.

 
Trump, White House demand FDA justify tough standards for coronavirus vaccine, raising concerns of political interferenceSome worry the move is an attempt to speed a vaccine before Election Day, which the president has tied to his reelection prospects

….The FDA, which had planned to release the guidance this week, instead has been working on detailed scientific justifications for the questions raised by White House officials, according to two people who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations. White House officials are especially interested in the agency’s recommendation that manufacturers provide safety data for their clinical trial participants for a median of two months after they get their second vaccination shot. The FDA’s data request would make it exceedingly difficult, though not entirely impossible, for a vaccine to be cleared by Election Day, experts say.

The recommendation is a way of ruling out some vaccine-related side effects, such as spinal cord inflammation called transverse myelitis or blood clotting issues, several experts said.

At a vaccine forum Thursday, Peter Marks, the top FDA career official who oversees vaccine reviews, said those types of side effects, though rare, tend to occur 42 to 60 days after the second dose of a vaccination, according to a research note from analyst Geoffrey Porges.

If the guidance is derailed, it may have little practical effect on how the FDA reviews prospective vaccines. The agency can still seek the information it wants from the companies, and the firms have known for weeks what the agency is looking for…. 

They later say White House officials = Mark Meadows. (I will get to him in a later comment.)

We already know Blood clotting is a MAJOR PROBLEM. So what is ‘transverse myelitis’

Transverse myelitis is an inflammation of the spinal cord”

September 5 2021
Acute transverse myelitis following SARS-CoV-2 vaccination: a case report and review of literature
Not much just a report.

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 It is interesting that Heart Doctor, Eric Topol, the guy who ‘SINGLE HANDEDLY STOPPED THE VACCINE ROLLOUT’, (WHAT A HERO!!)…

And he did it all WITH A TWITTER ACCOUNT! 🙄

According to the MIT report:

Across the country, in California, a doctor named Eric Topol was responding in real time on social media. He questioned the president’s health, his doctors’ actions, and even his mental status.

By that point Topol, a heart expert and researcher with a huge Twitter following of his own, was already weeks into a personal campaign to make sure the administration could not rush a covid-19 vaccine through regulatory authorization before Election Day on November 3….

Topol, who works at the Scripps Research Institute in La Jolla and is one of the country’s most prominent doctors, aimed to prevent Trump from greenlighting a vaccine before scientists could prove it to be safe and effective.  

So a few months later, under Biden he has NO PROBLEM with the Clot Shot Safety??

October 9, 2020
FDA’s Hahn to Topol: Decisions Will Be Made Based on Science Alone(Transcript of conversation)

OH, and it gets BETTER!!!

NIH RECORD
February 19, 2021Vol. LXXIII, No. 4IN THIS ISSUE  :wpds_arrow: Vice President Visits NIH to Complete Covid Vaccination
Whanna bet she got SALINE???

VARIOUS ASPECTS OF ATTACK
Covid-19 Affects Heart, Other Organs

Covid-19 is not just a respiratory virus. The virus affects many organs, including the heart, said Dr. Eric Topol during a recent NHLBI webinar series called “Covid-19 Insights.”

“The more we learn about Covid, the more we learn about other aspects of its attack,” said Topol, executive vice president and professor of molecular medicine at Scripps Research Institute and founder and director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute….

….“There’s a whole spectrum of things the virus does to the heart and the blood vessels,” Topol said. “We don’t know why certain people are predisposed.”

While the fatalities are “horrific,” he argued, not enough attention has been paid to patients experiencing long-term symptoms of Covid-19. These include chronic fatigue, chest pain, shortness of breath, dyspnea and a decreased ability to perform physical exercise. This is occurring in at least 10-20 percent of people. Those who experience long-term symptoms tend to be young, female and previously healthy.

“Studies suggest it goes on in most people for many months,” he said. “We don’t even know the real duration because this is only a 1-year old disease. It may go on for years.” 

In the future, artificial intelligence technologies might be used to accurately diagnose Covid-19. Recently, researchers built an algorithm to identify cases based on the sound of a person’s cough. In a study of more than 4,000 people, the algorithm provided an accurate diagnosis 98.5 percent of the time….

𝔸ℕ𝔻 𝕋ℍ𝔼 𝕄𝕆ℕ𝔼𝕐 𝕋ℝ𝔸𝕀𝕃…

WINTER OF 2019

The Scripps Research Translational Institute has received over $34 million in renewed funding from the National Institutes of Health’s National Center for Advancing Translational Sciences to advance medical research and clinical care through genomic and digital technologies. This is the third Clinical and Translational Science Awards (CTSA) grant to be awarded to Eric Topol, MD, founder and director of the Translational Institute.

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BOY did they ever set POTUS up to take the fall AND THEY KNEW HOW BAD THE CLOT SHOT ARE!!!!

A compendium of information I just stumbled on: https://www.rasmusen.org/rasmapedia/index.php?title=Covid-19

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THIS IS A MAJOR RABBIT HOLE WE HAVE OVER LOOKED!!!

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Gail Combs

There was also this going on that he wanted to stop.
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As the CCP virus mutated towards a less lethal more contagious form, the Cabal would find more and more ways to kill people to ‘Keep the numbers up’ and thus the fear porn.

TradeBait2

No one really likes this approach, but he did what he had to do.”

Love the info, thank you. Disagree with the above sentence. I would add, “…he did what he thought he had to do.” He abandoned what other nations did to rid themselves of the disease after first drawing attention to it – therapeutics. He allowed that to be harder to acquire – for the globalists to win. The two approaches to solving the COVID problem are not mutually exclusive. He jumped into the gene therapies with Warp Speed and backed away from promoting therapeutics and making them more accessible. Why?

Cure the disease as much as possible first while developing the long term solution the right way. Do science, not fake science. Perhaps hundreds of millions worldwide have died and been injured for life by not doing it that way.

Dope or rope-a-dope will be answered at some point.


Gail Combs

Actually you are missing a bit of information.

October 09, 2020
FDA’s Hahn to Topol: Decisions Will Be Made Based on Science Alone

HAHN: There are two important points of EUA. One is that, from a treatment or a therapeutic point of view, the standard is “may be effective.” There has to be evidence that something may be effective. We have to have data behind that.

The other one is the assessment of the risk-benefit ratio. And that’s where the safety comes in….

TOPOL: … I mean, it’s hard to know from a trial like this, when you’re evaluating it for EUA, that you’ve nailed it, that it’s truly efficacious and safe. Can you comment about this? This is a momentous time for clinical trials when, even though they’re large, the number of events that will be influential in making critical decisions is small.

HAHN: Eric, this is, as you point out, the central issue. It’s why we issued guidance on June 30th about our expectations. One of the reasons that these trials are the size they are is because we established a floor of 50% efficacy. Now, you and I and the rest of the country want to have a hugely efficacious vaccine and certainly a safe one. But these trials were powered and designed based upon that — detecting a 50% difference….

So that is the Vaccines.

So what about therapeutics??

And this transcript let’s the cat out of the bag:

TOPOL: That’s good to hear. That’s reassuring.

𝕆𝕟𝕖 𝕠𝕗 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕥𝕣𝕠𝕦𝕓𝕝𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝕗𝕖𝕒𝕥𝕦𝕣𝕖𝕤 𝕙𝕖𝕣𝕖 𝕨𝕒𝕤 𝕥𝕙𝕒𝕥 𝕥𝕙𝕖𝕣𝕖 𝕨𝕒𝕤 𝕔𝕠𝕟𝕔𝕖𝕣𝕟 𝕚𝕟 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕡𝕒𝕤𝕥 𝕒𝕣𝕠𝕦𝕟𝕕 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝔼𝕌𝔸𝕤 𝕗𝕠𝕣 𝕙𝕪𝕕𝕣𝕠𝕩𝕪𝕔𝕙𝕝𝕠𝕣𝕠𝕢𝕦𝕚𝕟𝕖 𝕒𝕟𝕕 𝕥𝕙𝕖 𝕔𝕠𝕟𝕧𝕒𝕝𝕖𝕤𝕔𝕖𝕟𝕥 𝕡𝕝𝕒𝕤𝕞𝕒. But you took initiative here to tighten the EUA criteria for vaccines….

So what the heck happened??? Dr. Peter A. McCullough tells you in his address to the Texas legislature.  Monoclonal antibody treatment is essentially HIDDEN from the public. Dr McCullough shamed the Texas legislature into setting up centers and making the treatment available. DeSantis did the same in Florida.

HCQ???
#1 It was ONLY allowed for hospitalized patients when it was WAY TO LATE to be effective. Also as we know it has to be used WITH zinc and also an antibiotic.

Second, On JUNE 15, 202 it was REVOKED BY THE FDA based on the results of the above INTENTIONAL MISUSE!

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Gingersmom2009

What happened to the stockpile of HCQ that he ordered? Why create a stockpile and then abandon therapeutics? At least have a “therapeutic” team of high-powered docs/reearchers working alongside the evil ones. It would have forced their hand re: denying the meds — it was all happening on TV. Daily.

Gail Combs

“…At least have a “therapeutic” team of high-powered docs/reearchers working alongside the evil ones….”

FauXi controlled the money. Also any doctor who stuck their neck out got SLAMMED HARD!

I do not know the ins and outs of how the US Gov actually works, but Peter Navarro’s book shows that HE, as POTUS spokes person on the CCP virus team, WAS EXCLUDED AFTER THE FIRST MEETING!

I think a lot more sabotage happened than we are aware of. Remember the Senior Exec Service is the liaison between the presidential appointees and the rank and file Gov. Workers.

Obama expanded the existing program of Deep State managers and appointed over 7,000 of the 8,156 bosses who are called the Senior Executive Service.

This means a short circuit between the president and the departments under him. ESSENTIALLY OBAMA RAN THE GOVERNMENT NOT TRUMP! That is why he set up his headquarters so close to the White House.

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REMEMBER Q’s KEYSTONE?

The Senior Executive Service (SES) lead America’s workforce. As the KEYSTONE of the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978, the SES was established to “…ensure that the executive management of the Government of the United States is responsive to the needs, policies, and goals of the Nation and otherwise is of the highest quality.” These leaders possess well-honed executive skills and share a broad perspective on government and a public service commitment that is grounded in the Constitution.

Members of the SES serve in the key positions just below the top Presidential appointees. SES members are the major link between these appointees and the rest of the Federal workforce. They operate and oversee nearly every government activity in approximately 75 Federal agencies.

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/senior-executive-service/

Gail Combs

This sums it up.
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Gingersmom2009

This is why the sole solution is calm, firm, unexpected handcuffs.

Gail Combs

For the whole Demon infested federal government!

Gail Combs

MARK MEADOWS

The Fake News, is calling Meadows a ‘close ally’ of POTUS but I am not sure I agree. I remember a story posted here a while back about Meadows appearing with Pence at some event but I can not find it.

So here is the read between the lines on Mark Meadows. He certainly seems to be really helping the Jan 6th Committee continue their Witch Hunt for everybody BUT the TRUE instigators, the FIB.

NEW YORK TIMES

Mark Meadows. Mr. Trump’s chief of staff, who initially provided the panel with a trove of documents that showed the extent of his role in the efforts to overturn the election,…

The former White House chief of staff previously provided the committee with thousands of pages of documents, including text messages he received on Jan. 6….

The vote of 222 to 208 sent the matter to the Justice Department to consider whether to prosecute Mr. Meadows, who would be the first former member of Congress to be held in contempt….

….his initial cooperation with the inquiry — including around 9,000 pages of documents he turned over — has already given the committee its first substantial burst of momentum and political traction….

What the heck was Meadows doing turning over 9,000 pages of documents in the first place???

From the NYT news scroll
Key Figures in the Jan. 6 Inquiry

Donald Trump. The former president’s movement and communications on Jan. 6 appear to be a focus of the inquiry. But Mr. Trump has attempted to shield his records, invoking executive privilege. The dispute is making its way through the courts.

[In Other words Mark Meadows had ZERO AUTHORITY TO TURN OVER THOSE RECORDS! I think the Contempt vote is to shield him and not actually punish him. Notice how he GAVE the committee a trail to follow? A method to keep the show trial going? -GC]

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Phil Waldron. The retired Army colonel has been under scrutiny since a 38-page PowerPoint document he circulated on Capitol Hill was turned over to the panel by Mr. Meadows. The document contained extreme plans to overturn the election.

Fox News anchors. ​​Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity and Brian Kilmeade texted Mr. Meadows during the Jan. 6 riot urging him to persuade Mr. Trump to make an effort to stop it. The texts were part of the material that Mr. Meadows had turned over to the panel.

If you want to read vile nastiness from the NYT (where that scroll was) Pence Reached His Limit With Trump. It Wasn’t Pretty.It paints POTUS as an egotistical BULLY and Pence as the long suffering man of logic and patience.

…The loyal lieutenant who had almost never diverged from the president, who had finessed every other possible fracture, finally came to a decision point he could not avoid. He would uphold the election despite the president and despite the mob. And he would pay the price with the political base he once hoped to harness for his own run for the White House….

Meadows also hung Jim Jordan out to dry.

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) confirmed Wednesday that he forwarded a message to former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows on Jan. 5 that was revealed in part this week by the House select committee investigating the U.S. Capitol riot on Jan. 6.

The text outlined a legal argument that then-Vice President Mike Pence had the authority to interfere in the certification of the Electoral College count in the 2020 election as pro-Trump Republicans tried to nullify Joe Biden’s win.

Part of it was presented during a Monday hearing of the House select committee, but it was attributed to an unnamed lawmaker.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/rep-jim-jordan-admits-sending-015510707.html

From Peter Navarro — IN TRUMP TIME

Page 227

…Cleta Mitchell, by the way, is as pro-trump as it comes, and for her Trumpism, she was soon canceled by the firm for whom she worked for. Disgusting stuff.

In one of the most revealing phone conversations I have ever had. Cleta tells me that as far back as May 2019, she put out a full alert to both the Trump Campaign and the Republican National Committee that the Democrats were getting ready to steal the election. In one instance, she met with Brad Parscale and told him the campaign could use soft money from donors to finance the kind of legal counterstrike that was going to be necessary….he told Cleta, an election law specialist, that her idea was illegal.

Cleta also tells me that she put out an SOS to both Mark Meadows at the White House and Justin Clark at the Trump Campaign in September of 2020. 👉When she asked Meadows why the campaign had never acted on her advice, all Meadows had to say was, “It just didn’t happen.” 👈

As for Justin Clark, …. Seems Clark hired several attorneys for the Trump campaign in Georgia but by definition they could not help on election issues. This is because they are also working of the Georgia Sec of state and therefore conflicted out. Talk about a waste of money….

So if we go by ACTIONS and not words, 🐍Mark Meadows💩 has a definite.. whiff about him. And that makes me wonder what his REAL role was in setting up POTUS over the Covid Clot Shot roll out.

TradeBait2

BOOM!!!! Thank you, Gail!

Related ground report on the Transverse Myelitis. It involves one of our four 80+ year old friends who was healthy before the two Pfizer jabs who now sings in the choir of anti-Covid vaxxers. He developed back problems a few months after the shots, could not stand for more than a few minutes without pain. Highly active before including regularly golfing, traveling to national and state parks to visit and hike, a really good woodworker, etc. He showed me the scan of his spine on Friday. Scoliosis at the base similar to the linked report. Never been diagnosed in his entire lifetime on the planet, never had any side effects from it. Played collegiate baseball – athlete. Seems it would have shown up somewhere along life’s path. Orthopedic starts him in therapy a few weeks before I saw his scan and he now does 45 minutes of exercises per day to help the issue. Says he already feels better and about 80-90% of his former self. He is also getting farther removed from the jabs and began taking immunity supplements. Anecdotal – maybe. If and when he has a follow-up scan I will report on here. Just sent him the link.

Follow the money. Topol did it for his 30 pierces of silver.

As I have posted ad nauseam, at some point it will be really obvious whether PDT is a dope or has been playing rope-a-dope. Nobody gets drawn into the spider webs as many times as he has without being one or the other.

Gail Combs

I hope your friend gets a lot better. Back problems can be a real pain in the rump!

Mine has been acting up these last few weeks. — GEE I wonder if lifting 100# kids on weekends and toting ten – 50# feed sacks during the week could have anything to do with it… NAH! 🤓

TradeBait2

lol. But it’s a great life you lead.

Gail Combs

Yeah, not bad for a fat little old lady… WHERE did the time go!

prognosticatasaurusrex

As I have been saying. THAT is why Trump is treading lightly. I have no doubt that he has a prepared response. The FOOLS will likely subpoena Trump’s Covid discussions, when the SHTF, thinking that there is a smoking gun that it was Trump’s fault it was “rushed” They should be CAREFUL what they wish for.

I have no doubt that those discussions will paint a VERY different picture to the one they have as a “fallback” Let us all not forget, that Trump wanted a 3 prong attack on Covid, Vaccines, therapeutics, and PPE. Trump would have NEVER mandated the shots, Biden DID.

They will have a HARD time smearing Trump for rushing something that was not “deemed” safe yet, while Biden ORDERED the same stuff safe AND to be mandated to keep your jobs AND mandated to CHILDREN.. Oh btw, MONTHS after Trump was gone and there actually WERE those studies that PROVED the risks, ALL before Biden and his mandates. Oh btw WHO has ordered therapeutics NOT to be used…WHO is in “charge” why Biden.

When Trump was “rushing” it we were in the MIDDLE of the pandemic, tens of thousands were dying weekly, or so the MSM told me. We did NOT yet know how to treat it, AND the therapeutics Trump PUSHED were downplayed by the same people now or who will say
he “rushed”

Can’t have it BOTH ways guys…moving the goalposts or retroactive hindsight will NOT work. Biden OWNS this. The vaccines were NOT released until HIS watch. HE pushed them, despite all the warnings, BILLIONS of doses right. Then HE mandated them, oh and he is FIGHTING IN COURT to KEEP them…good luck with sayting Trump KNEW in august 2020 but Biden does NOT in Dec 2021.

So let them TRY IT. boomerang incoming if they do.

Gail Combs

HERE IS THE KEY:

TRANSCRIPT: FDA’s Hahn to Topol: Decisions Will Be Made Based on Science Alone

Topol: That’s good to hear. That’s reassuring.

One of the troubling features here was that there was concern in the past around the EUAs for hydroxychloroquine and the convalescent plasma. But you took initiative here to tighten the EUA criteria for vaccines. Back in June you established the vaccine efficacy criteria and you published it in The New England Journal of Medicine. And then more recently you said, “We’re going to make this tougher and we’re going to have this 2-month median safety follow-up; we’re going to require some serious COVID-19 events that have to be part of this.”

SO WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ‘EUA for hydroxychloroquine’????

There are seven pages in that transcript and I would ask you to read them since you have a better understanding than I of the pharmaceutical field.

prognosticatasaurusrex

OK, I will read through. Interesting on HCQ EUA. You know what else is interesting? Trump signed into LAW right to try. What the hell happened to that? THAT should trump any state “mandates” but it doesn’t.

It speaks volumes, and IS their Achilles heel in trying to hang this on Trump’s “rush” and or “negligence” They FOUGHT HCQ, Ivermectin, and Doxycycline (and others) as therapeutics, VIGOROUSLY. VICIOUSLY, despite years of efficacy, safety, and minimal side effects in humans. Plus, they were CHEAP.

An EUA, to my understanding, cannot be issued or EXTENDED IF there are viable therapeutics available. HCQ has been in use since the 1930’s on US troops, and after as an anti malarial in the third world. ( it is why I think peoples in Africa, Latin America and the Middle east do not get Covid as wide spread or badly. ONLY Iran in the ME. ) it is STILL issued to troops deploying overseas to this day, yet it was “deemed” unsafe for Covid. They played the heart arrhythmia card (it was their OWN shots that cause FAR worse) BUT, heart arrhythmia is a side affect of another of the protocols recommended Azithromycin, not HSQ. Z pack has been widely used since at LEAST the 1960’s. Another CHEAP and effective drug that WORKED that was SMEARED. Remember the FALSE study at John’s Hopkins on HCQ? Gee who is tied into event 201 AND Covid? John’s Hopkins.

Then we have what the did to Ivermectin. They KNOW full well that it got a freaking Nobel prize in medicine for its EXACT use against coronaviruses. Yet they deemed it “dangerous” and a horse de-wormer. They know DAMN well that there are two different doses, one for animals and one for humans,

Hell Fauci even HAIED both of them in 2015 for their uses on Coronaviruses. They have ZERO legs to stand on should they proceed down the blame Trump avenue.

In fact, I KNOW they are going to do it. Here is the secret. Trump does too, and he WANTS them to. Trump is a master at turning a perceived (by the left) weakness into HIS strength. He did it dozens of times. They NEVER learn Art of war.

prognosticatasaurusrex

Then there is this ” based on the work they did with OTHER vaccines”. Well there has never BEEN a “vaccine” like the mRNA concoction, it is totally opposite everything that was done for 300 years.

Gail Combs

THANK YOU for also going through that transcript and verifying my take that it was UTTERLY DAMNING!

Then you add the NC_updipchick thread on the FINANCIAL INCENTIVES…
https://www.barnhardt.biz/2021/12/23/huge-black-letter-law-massively-financially-incentivizing-hospitals-to-poison-and-kill-covid-patients-found-save-and-share-aggressively/

Yeah, they ALL DESERVE TO HANG and that includes the DOCTORS WHO DELIBERATELY KILLED PATIENTS!

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I am not sure what POTUS Trump is up to, but I very much doubt he is uninformed given Peter Navarro Dr Malone and Steve Bannon.

Also note POTUS WAITED until NOW to actually say much, AFTER the Clot shot was shown useless but deadly.

prognosticatasaurusrex

BINGO Gail…Timing.

Gail Combs

AND A WHOLE NEW AVENUE TO EXPLORE!

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prognosticatasaurusrex

“Because at the end of the day, Eric, that’s how you’re going to judge us: based on whether we stuck to our criteria and put them out there. Letting people know what both the criteria and the process are is very, very important to the agency. These were generated by our career scientists based upon their look at previous data with vaccines and the information we had available.
I’m incredibly proud of the career scientists and what they’ve done. My commitment to the American people, to the providers of this nation, is that we will stand by those criteria and we will use our external advisors and the vaccine advisory committee to further vet this.

This is where we stand. I said it in the most recent Senate hearing: There’s going to be no other criteria that are going to influence our decision. No externalities, nothing else. It’s going to be about the science and the data and the medicine.”

Square that with the demeaning of the therapeutics, the rush to mandates, and the decisions to force this on children. Follow the Science my ass. Notice how there was pushback against Trump on EUAs, but not on Biden’s mandate.

I think the pushback was NOT on the “vaccine” but on the therapeutics, even monoclonal antibodies. Where is the TRANSPARENCY he is promising the public here?

prognosticatasaurusrex

“Topol: That’s really important. There are no more important clinical trials I know of in our generation than these vaccine trials; it’s our exit strategy for the pandemic. The fact that you stood up and did this — and you stood up for these 17,000-plus people at FDA — to show this country that you’re going to tighten things up because this is the rate-limiting step, the EUA.
Also, just to point out, the EUA is the right path for all the vaccines, because the BLA (Biologics License Application), the licensure, would be a long, long process and we don’t want to wait for that. So the EUA is what we want to see for each of the vaccines.

You’ve stood up, in a masterful way, in what had to be a difficult situation. I can just imagine that you’re putting your neck on the line here. You don’t have to agree, but that’s just the external perception”

This is pure unadulterated horse manure. We DON”T want to wait for the clinical trials or customary BLA because that would take too long..but good job in standing up to the MUCH quicker EUA, you know the EUA that BYPASES all the “safety protocols” that a BLA would achieve. Exit strategy my ASS. This is gobbltygook. Let me paraphrase…Orange man bad, must stand up.

Trump wanted to bypass the BLA FOR the EUA, because it was quicker, but too quick for Topol and Hann. They were the moral “saviors” from Trump’s “rush” you know in a killer Pandemic. I suspect the ONLY thing Hahn pushed back on was HCQ and any other therapeutic.

prognosticatasaurusrex

“And just like with the vaccines, my promise is that the only information that will be used to make this decision — either yea or nay — will be based upon the science and data we receive. Again, the externality around this will not influence our decision-making around it.”

Oh FFS. Give me a BREAK. “based on SCIENCE” WHOSE “science” We have known for DECADES that HCQ is SAFE and EFFECTIVE. The ONLY trial that needed to happen was to see if it WORKED against Covid…hint it DID. Then we have used convalescent plasma for decades.

Again, the ONLY trial needed was to see if it WORKED on Covid, it did ALSO. The ONLY thing rushed was the new mRNA “vaccines” which do NOT work on Covid and LIKELY at this point have horrendous side effects.

This is nothing more than a straw man for holding UP the KNOWN therapeutics while rushing the unknown “vaccine”

Remember folks, half of the trial is not that something works, it is the adverse consequences OF the drug that take the time. Those would have been ELIMINATED in the KNOWN therapeutics. HCQ has been IN human use sine 1930’s nearly 90 YEARS. It is STILL in use today. The ONLY thing that needed to be seen, and WAS, was IF it worked on Covid. It DID, and THESE fools HID IT. They slow walked it.

Example. If I told you Robitussin worked on Covid, do we NEED a trial to SEE if Robitussin is SAFE? NO!.. We JUST need to see if it WORKS on Covid. With the “vaccine” they had to see IF it worked and IF it was safe, it did NEITHER, and they PUSHED it, just after Trump was out. Agenda much.

There can ONLY be one reason for that. They KNEW from the start the therapeutics worked, and at the same time the “vaccine” had issues. SO what did they do? Pushed the unsafe, un reliable, yet profitable vaccines while slow rolling and trashing the safe, effective, yet UN profitable therapeutics. PERIOD. MONEY over health and safety.

I told you all long ago, an old colleague said to me. “there is NO money in the cure, the money is in the DISEASE” Never more true than today.

prognosticatasaurusrex

“Now, you and I, I think we both would agree as doctors, if there are data available on any therapeutic that look like it could save a life during a pandemic, and it is safe and it fulfills the criteria of “may be effective,” and the risk-benefit ratio is in the right direction, then we should go forward with it. But we intend to be transparent about the rationale behind an EUA, when and if it occurs, for therapeutics. We’re going to have to encourage the sponsors to be transparent about the information we provide them, because we are restricted by law from releasing confidential commercial information. But we will, to the extent allowed, be very transparent about it.”

BELCH, sorry, this is their LAME ASS attempt at “justifying” what they were going to do with the therapeutics. Transparent as MUD. “Safe and may be effective.” gee you mean like HCQ and Ivermectin? What RISK benefit ratio? the ONLY ratio they were and ARE considering is PROFIT.

Then they say this gem

But Eric, it is no different from vaccines with respect to needing to see data to make a decision about the criteria for an EUA. The decision is different. As you point out, because if this is for someone who’s sick with COVID-19, that’s different from someone who’s healthy and doesn’t have COVID-19.
Topol: Right. And that brings up the point about an unmet need. We have dexamethasone and remdesivir for severe advanced illness, but we have nothing in the early phase or prevention.

See Covid is DIFFERENT than the use on a healthy person…RIGHHHT. There might be unintended consequences of using HCQ or Ivermectin on a covid patient, like you know HEALING THEM.

Pushing Remdisivir, which was NEVER used on Covid for an EUA for ?advanced cases” Yeah it helped, it KILLED the patient. but muh safety and don’t rush. BARRRFFFF. These two “doctors” are EVERYTHING that is wrong with modern medicine today. Pretending to CARE about safety, when ALL they really care about is PROFIT, oh and a nice liability shield from lawsuits.

prognosticatasaurusrex

AHHH the MONEY shot.

“The point here is that you have the president with videos that he’s made about the cure and all these other things, and we know that there is no cure for COVID-19. And he now appears to be using this as a political lever instead of the vaccines, which didn’t work before the election. He’s using this as the miracle he’s going to bring forth for the country. So here again we have this problem of politics clouding the discussion, using advances in science and medicine that are notable. The vaccines obviously have had a remarkable path, with speed that we’ve never seen. And now the monoclonals are another similar thing. We’ve never seen monoclonals developed this quickly.
Can you give us any reassurance that this process will be totally immune from any interference and will not be influenced by, for example, November 3rd?”

Orange man BAD. How DARE he speak of a CURE (besides the “vaccines”)

See Trump was all about politics… PLEASE. If it were ALL about politics. Fauci, Hahn, and others would have been put out to pasture. 15 days would have been IT, and the country would have proceeded as they ALWAYS did BEFORE Covid, herd immunity would have been the goal, and REAL science would have HELPED with studies pushing the therapeutics UNTIL a a REAL vaccine could have been THUROUGHLY vetted and tested. It was the DEMS who made Covid political, it has been ever since. I WISH Trump WOULD have made it political AFTER coming up with the therapeutics and restocking the supply chain, but he didn’t

singingsoul1

What many forget is there was an impeachment, several lawsuits, and congress trying to get their hands on his business taxes. How much can one man do without giving other tasks. Pence was the point man and others according to Peter Nevaro seems many worked against the president. He did not have the power to deal with Fauci and scarf lady. He had no control over the national health teams that had been delegated away from presidents. He had to be careful. I wonder if he was lied too all the way around.

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prognosticatasaurusrex

BINGO. Think, the distractions make it HARD to concentrate, at some point even the best defer.

singingsoul1

Yes people forget to quickly.

prognosticatasaurusrex

BINGO. and that is what the left and their puppet MSM count on, short attention spans. It is why they are always in a rush to get stuff done, before people do research and find out the Truth. Mark Twain once wrote ” a lie can travel around the world before the truth gets it pants on” Truer today than ever.

singingsoul1

I am cursed with a long memory about some things. I do remember what Trump and his family went through. Also the impeachment just at the right time for dems when Covid epidemic came out.
People always say “he is the president and needs to deal with that”. Really? He is has to rely on other people. He relied on Pence and who ever he assembled on his response team. Reading Peter Nevarrow one gets a good sense who double dealt POTUS 45.

para59r

Yes. Trump has the excuse of acting during an emergency with limited time, data and resources. He earmarked the vaccines for the most vulnerable, while everyone else could line up later if they wished. The country and world were subject of a Bio attack from the Chinese, and later we’d find out done in conjunction with Mr Global’s surrogates. Trump was also under continuous attack by the Democrats, a recalcitrant and treacherous media conglomerate as well as inbeds in the Federal bureaucracy plus too many State Governments working against their people, all who did everything they could to stymie a coordinated response that would benefit both the nation and the world.

All that broadened out under Biden. The time, the data, the pressure, the lack of resource and Biden took all that Trump largesse and squandered it for political gain in order to follow a more broad genocidal plan at the behest of Mr Global.

prognosticatasaurusrex

EXACTLY!

singingsoul1

Very good observation.

kalbokalbs

100% Trump has recordings of his meetings.

Would be atsonished if he didn’t have them recorded AND in his possession.

prognosticatasaurusrex

All business men of his level do, how do you think JR bet their attempt to frame him into a perjury trap? He had the actual recordings too.

TradeBait2

Yeah – Standard Hotel, Rising Sun in New Orleans, Robb Mansion, Epstein’s Temple, NM Rat Ranch – the list goes on and on.

para59r

Not a Freudian slip. Hard to understand but Tedros wants the developed world to step up distribution of vaccines in undeveloped countries (some are still below 10%) so he’s just outing the plan to kill children. Meanwhile his belief is that vaccines do help enough to be needed.

RDS
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Barb Meier

Here is the data.gov source to the data set mentioned in RDS’s link above. If I could get my cat Bradley to give me back my computer chair, I would like to run the comma-delmited data set through some graph analysis software to see things like centrality, betweeness, and layouts of relationships showing the patterns in the data sets. Very few repaid the first round of $. Not surprising. https://catalog.data.gov/dataset/provider-relief-fund-covid-19-high-impact-payments

Barb Meier

data.gov is a great place to get public fed gov data for analysis.

prognosticatasaurusrex

As I said, when Covid got its very own unique billing code, that was the downfall of ”
science” I know you know DP. It is ALL about $$$ including research grants. I have seen it with my own eyes.

gil00

Lol.

EllieLA

Are these the Special Op Underground Tunnel Troops?

wowohwow1528

Proverbs 3:5-6
Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%209%3A6-7%2CLuke%202%3A1-20&version=KJV;NIV

https://www.ltw.org/read/my-devotional/2021/12/the-shalom-of-the-prince-of-peace

https://www.intouch.org/read/daily-devotions

wowohwow1528

Big thank you DP .. awesome open, God bless you and your loved ones abundantly, always .. 🙂❤️

🎄Merry Christmas🎄 …

very thankful for you ..

singingsoul1

Amen 🙂

wowohwow1528
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TradeBait2

Great start to the morning, DePat. Thank you!

JP is off the charts funny and spot on. Have been sending his vids out to family and friends, so they will be circulated more.

Some are called to battle. Band of Brothers and Sisters on The Q Tree.

holly

The vaccine defense continues, though he does says it’s a choice.

From an interview Trump had with Candace Owens.

Trump’s stirring vaccine defense: Ex-president says most Americans dying or hospitalized because of COVID are unvaccinated and encourages everyone to get the shot when pushed on why more have died under Biden

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10339913/Trump-says-Americans-dying-unvaccinated-encourages-shot.html

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pgroup2

It is beyond obvious that DJT has not yet solved his traitors-as-advisors problem. I predict this issue alone will prevent him from getting the GOP nomination, which will go to Ted Cruz instead.

Gail Combs

Still a long way to go time wise so we will see.

prognosticatasaurusrex

BINGO.

Gail Combs

  :wpds_cool: 

I am enjoying watching this play out.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

A convenience store I go to has signs posted telling you you should get the jab, and they cite that Trump has done so as a “reason” for it. It’s a stupid reason to go get the shot but it might persuade some people.

para59r

I’d think at this point everyone has made up their mind. Then again, your in Colorado where they take the Mile High city stuff serious and not much else. 😁

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

You don’t know this county very well do you?

The basic attitude here is “who gives a flying f*ck about Denver” other than, of course, the fact that all our highway money gets spent there.

prognosticatasaurusrex

Trump did NOT get the vaccine. He got Covid, and was given monoclonal antibodies.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I thought I had read here recently he was just bragging about getting the booster?

(Oh and the sign also claims Melania did too.)

prognosticatasaurusrex

Why would someone who HAD covid get a shot. Not believing it unless he says it.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Whether or not he did say it is (on one level) irrelevant–it doesn’t matter if YOU believe he got the shot (or if I believe it).

The point IS, his talking up the vax IS BEING USED to get people to take it.

prognosticatasaurusrex

Not for long…the worm is about to turn..

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

He’s SAID that he’s been vaccinated multiple times!

prognosticatasaurusrex

I have never heard that. My only question would be WHY, or was he talking about Covid, or something else. There are MANY vaccines after all.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I’ll try to scare up the links. TWO that I’m aware of are:

– a Fox News piece
– the Bill O’Reilly interview where he said he got the booster

However, I think there are two or three more sources I’ve seen. Might be in the Candace Owens video.

prognosticatasaurusrex

Ok. Candice I would believe…Fox news…not so much.

para59r

We’ll the internets are loaded with people not to enthralled with his current vax stance. Would suggest that he tweak it some more to look at vax injuries and talk about people relooking their need for the vax and start to steer them toward the alt therapies we are familiar with. Even calling for ivermectin to be made available would go far in fixing any damage.

prognosticatasaurusrex

I will bet my gopher suit Trump gets the nomination in a WALK over the others. Trump has a HISTORY of fixing this mess once, DESPITE the traitors. You think Cruz or anyone else would have any success or LESS traitorous advisors? LOL NO.

Trump had his reelection STOLEN, anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together knows that. He gets his 2nd term to FIX the mess the fraud created. Now 2024 is gonna be a crap shoot. Hopefully Trump will chose and mentor Desantis, and we will have decades of MAGA>

kalbokalbs

I would NOT bet on any R-Con getting the nomination IF Trump wants it.

IF Trump does NOT want the nomination, Trump WILL clear the field for DeSantis.

On a good day, Cruz is a politico putz.

Gail Combs

Cruz is a CANADIAN politico putz.

rayzorback

Cubanadian!

Barb Meier

Governors and businessmen can make good presidents because of their skill sets. Senators don’t get the experience running large enterprises so I don’t expect them to do well unless they had prior business experience. In DC schmoozing is a skill set too but the elites only use it to benefit their cliques.

kalbokalbs

Exactly.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

In general, Senators have a hard time being elected POTUS when running against someone with executive-branch experience even at the state level. Of course in 2008 it was two senators, McStain and Obola, so a Senator was guaranteed a win.

singingsoul1

I will never vote for Cruz to me he seems a sleaze boll. I watched him closeley in 2016 and did not know why he even was there. I hope republicans choose wisely no Cruz no Pence.

Gingersmom2009

The “hospitalized with covid are mainly un-vaxed” thing simply is not true from what I’ve read. I DO believe though that there are plenty of unvaxed people who are not taking any real protective measures, either meds for prophylaxis or acquiring same for emergency.

para59r

Meanwhile we have to be careful about the “From” Covid vs “With Covid” thing. A story that only says “With Covid” does not tell enough for anyone to make any informed judgements at this point and should be a marker of media mal practice as anyone covering the news knows better. They are just counting on slipping their slanted coverage past the people. By the same token the media & government certainly share in the responsibility about people not being aware of alt prophylaxis and therapies but the number one place of blame is on the individual for not doing their own homework.

cthulhu

It’s just like the BS about “cases” that they’ve had flying around since Day One.

Simply put, “cases” are a random number designed to increase panic. Even “hospitalizations” are a farce — since hospitals were bribed to hospitalize Covid even if there wasn’t any.

prognosticatasaurusrex

BINGO. propaganda tool, especially using PCR to 40 cycles (40000 spins)

Remember the DEATH tote boards…same thing.

singingsoul1

Two things
1) We are misinformed and have been propagandized ?
2 )Trump has been propagandized ?

Gail Combs

OR POTUS Trump is up to something….

Gail Combs

The timing says something is up.

singingsoul1

I hope so with him one never knows.
I am also wondering if they told him one thing and then did something else with the vaccine? I mean he is not a scientist.

Gail Combs

They called GENE THERAPY a vaccine by CHANGING DEFINITIONS!

singingsoul1

I need to remember that not call it vaccine.

kalbokalbs

Unacceptable, pushing Covid injections AND BLAMING unvaxed for getting Covid / dying.

I do HOPE, AFTER the interview, Candace asked for a couple minutes PRIVATELY. Then take a couple minutes to offer proof to Trump.

It is one thing to say get injected IF one wishes. But blatant false statements, unacceptable.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Repeating MSM propaganda makes him look “less than Trump” for sure.

singingsoul1

Ok I could not finish watching the interview it pained me seeing Trump defending the vaccine in the manner he did. That he is so ill informed or he believes the disease is worse than the vaccine? That is not a good sign. Just my thoughts on it. I wish it could have exposed a little more what the thinks and why.
Or I am ill informed and am not understanding something. This is all not normal but then we do not live in normal times.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Depending on many factors (like age) and how you measure “worse”, the disease CAN BE and often IS worse than the vaccine.

The vaccine is not “safe” – and neither is the disease.

The are GREAT numbers on this, where the spike does something in both diseased and vaccinated, and typically the disease is worse.

But you get MORE IMMUNITY FROM THE DISEASE.

It’s tough to take a pick.

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singingsoul1

True both the vaccine and covid is dangerous. I guess I never weight them against each other except I am not a friend of having something injected.
I think what has happened people who are more afraid of the shots and damage it does verse those who are more afraid of covid and take a chance.
You made a good point there is no 100% sure choice just what each person feels comfortable with.
In life nothing is 100 % except “there is a time to be born , to live and a time to die”.
When we accept one has nothing to fear.
I do better when I do not give into emotion then reality becomes clear.

marymorse

Some data to watch, hotspot Tompkins County NY.

Vaxxed deaths are exceeding unvaxxed since September:

https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/NMHhk/8/

Also, overall deaths since Feb are almost evenly distributed:

https://datawrapper.dwcdn.net/uONz3/5/

Full data set:

https://tompkinscountyny.gov/health/factsheets/coronavirusdata

barkerjim
gil00

Super cool stuff in the meme section DP. Jp is always great.

para59r

Yeah, but he shouldn’t do back to back lingerie spots. Scotts beginning to wonder.

kalbokalbs

Guys do NOT belong in lingerie. NOT a complicated truth.

cthulhu

You can say that again!

Gail Combs

OR bikinis!!!
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GUYS too
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kalbokalbs

Or yoga pants.

But those that wear them well…  :wpds_grin: 

kalbokalbs

Never knew there was a difference. (Uninformed guy)

gil00

Haha. Mr gil said the same!

cthulhu
cthulhu

Eh, late to the plate.

cthulhu
ROBERT BAKER

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

mollypitcher5

lol…what a classic that line is

cthulhu

I live in the SF Bay Area…..there are gays everywhere, and people just do people things.

But if some guy is out in the middle of the street screaming “I AM NOT GAY” at the top of his lungs, he will get a pitying look from both gays and straights.

kalbokalbs

I laugh at all of them…gays and deniers.

Do what they wish. But do, STFU about it.

Gingersmom2009

Is this because of his (former?) fluffer id?

cthulhu

Honestly, it just looks like he’s slipping into breakdown — probably largely due to the ridicule he bought with his misconduct in the Rittenhouse case. Unfortunately, many thousands of people in the US saw it.

Gingersmom2009

I saw that yesterday. Funny and bleak combined.

TheseTruths

Word of the year in the Netherlands: Prikspijt
GWP: Prikspijt’ or ‘Vaccination Regret’ Is Voted 2021 Word Of The Year In The Netherlands

‘Prikspijt’, which translates for ‘regretting getting a vaccination,’ was voted the Word of the Year 2021 in the Netherlands after a social media campaign by famous Dutch dictionary-maker, Van Dale.

Dutch News reported:

“Prikspijt, a new word for regretting getting a vaccination, has been voted Dutch word of the year after a social media campaign, reports dictionary-maker Van Dale. The word had 82.2% of almost 49,000 votes cast, followed by woonprotest (protests about the Dutch housing crisis) and wappiegeluid (a derogatory term applied to coronavirus conspiracy theorists). Van Dale defines prikspijt as ‘a feeling of regret someone has about having been vaccinated against any infectious disease.’”

The Netherlands reimposes strict lockdown on Sunday due to fear of the Omicron variants. This means more COVID-19 restrictions over the Christmas and New Year holidays.

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

James Webb Space Telescope still on track for launch Christmas Morning.

Apparently Musk’s Gigantomondo Rocket is supposed to do its first orbital test sometime early next year, too. IF it works it is a huge step forward.

litenmaus

Steve, Due to your delightful post on the Webb Space Telescope, I am filled with a new found sense of interest in the telescope’s launch. :0) Thanks.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

If we do nothing but dwell on Covid we’ll surely go mad.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I’ve been on Covid fast for months.

holly

I need to try harder.

Gail Combs

AHHhhh but your pointing to that MIT article really opened a new rabbit hole. THANKS!

holly

I thought it was something, but can’t come close to putting it all together like you do. So you deserve the thanks 👍

Gail Combs

It is just a God given knack I have. At work I was floored that others could not see the connections I could…

Just don’t ask me to sing Christmas Carols! People will run screaming. Tone deaf doesn’t come close as a description.

RDS

Well.
I just heard, via the 2PM news report on 77WABC New York, an audio clip of POTUS45 stating that the “unvaccinated” are driving the numbers of hospitalizations and deaths from COVID; that the “vaccines” are “a great thing” that his administration brought about; and that everyone should get “vaccinated”, but “it’s a matter of choice.”
Sounds to me like maybe he lost about 80 million potential votes of the currently “unvaccinated.”
Sounds also to me like he’s kicked the door open for the Fauci Cabal to come after AFLDS and FLCCC. What’s he got against these groups?

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ROBERT BAKER

It does appear that he just put a star on the back of the unconvinced unvacinated citizen. That fits with what the DailyMail article that Holly referenced earlier. It seems the cabal may have just gotten new ammo to go on the attack. Resisters may be wise to keep their heads down.

TradeBait2

I wear it proudly. I guess we are in the 10% of our age bracket that refuse to be intimidated.

kalbokalbs

Unvax folks will NOT take kindlky to anyone pushing them to get injected.

EVERYONE who wanted to be injected, has had ~one year to do so.

ZERO defense for pushing injections. Simply say its a personal decision.

TradeBait2

Especially since there is never a mention of natural or acquired immunity from his mouth anymore. Get vaccinated is all he is about. Explain why, Mr. President. Give us the science since you are so sure. Explain the VAERS report and why all the hospitals and such get extra money for coding COVID? Why no mention of HCQ and Ivermectin, Z-pacs and doxycycline with supplements? Why no discussion about Drs. Malone and McCullough, PDT?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10339913/Trump-says-Americans-dying-unvaccinated-encourages-shot.html

Aubergine

This is infuriating!

Why, why why!? Seriously. Is he TRYING to lose half his base?

I do not get it.

EllieLA

I understand the frustration and disgust, folks. But honestly, do you really think he believes the BS that the unvaccinated are driving the number of hospitalizations and deaths from COVID? Think about it…

In this news report, he is regurgitating information spewed by the “FAKE NEWS”! He’d be the last person to give them any credence! He knows we are not stupid. He knows we do our own research. Let’s take a deep breath, step back from the hysterical wailing crowd, and wait to see what he has up his sleeve. I don’t believe that he has abandoned us or the Front Line Doctors.

I’m not belittling or attacking anyone. You are all fantastic! I just think there is more to this than we can see right now.

At this point, no one who hasn’t already been vaxxed, is going to run out and get jabbed because of what he says. Yes, he is angering some of his base, temporarily; and at the same time perplexing those on the left who don’t trust him and hate everything he stands for.

Gail Combs

EXACTLY!!!

Time to step back and let the other shoe drop.
….

What has been happening recently? And do you REALLY think POTUS is NOT aware of this or is so hard headed he would not reconsider his original position?

Covid-19: Omicron: Early Signs That It Escapes Vaccines
CBS: Omicron variant has “robust ability” to evade COVID“…Omicron more contagious but may be less severe…”

318 Athlete Cardiac Arrests, Serious Issues, 178 Dead, After COVID Shot
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EllieLA

And look at all the Democrat Politicians, who are “so-called” vaccinated, like Pocahauntas, and now Jim Clyburn, etc., all testing positive now for COVID, hitting the news right now. We don’t hear about any Republican non-vaccinated politicians coming down with it.

Gail Combs

Yes, I do not think they were expecting Omicron.

Wolfie had a mutation map, I can not find. It was something like these and showed Omicron most likely came from the original CCP virus and NOT the later variations like delta.

It looked like this
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But the information was closer to this:
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Nor'easter

THANK YOU EllieLA !

“All warfare is based on deception.” – Sun Tzu, “The Art of War”

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

But honestly, do you really think he believes the BS that the unvaccinated are driving the number of hospitalizations and deaths from COVID? Think about it…”

The issue is NOT whether he believes this…but rather WHY THE BLOODY HELL IS HE SAYING IT?

trumpismine

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

HA! AMEN! One of the greatest statements EVER!!!

cthulhu

From Insty:

21ST CENTURY RELATIONSHIPS: I Think My Husband’s Constant Demand to Get a Dog Is Sexist.

A friend comments: “Get your husband a dog, you damned harpy.” He probably just wants to come home to someone who loves him.

singingsoul1

My husband lets me have any pet I want and as many as I like. He spoils them rotten. The dogs know how to beg from him. He is the one getting up in the night if dogs want to go out they know I will tell them it is not time and they go back to sleep. My husband get up so they tyrannize him.  😎 

singingsoul1

Yes dogs know whom they can manipulate. Your father seems a soft touch for his dogs 🙂
Yes it is sad when the die there are family.

singingsoul1

That is wonderful 🙂

Gail Combs

Horses/ponies are just as bad.

I have a few only I can handle. They are good for me but my helper and Hubby get pushed around by them.

Ponies are really bad about pushing their handlers buttons.

singingsoul1

Just like little kids 🙂

Gail Combs

Perpetual two year olds…

singingsoul1

Yes they are 🙂

cthulhu

My uncle used to go hunting with his dog, Buck. They were buddies, out traipsing around in the middle of the night.

And then there was a shot that didn’t quite work right, and Buck took a couple of pellets in his butt. Whereupon my uncle, the Marine, carried him out of the wilds to his truck, then drove him home, then cleaned and fixed him up and dug the pellets out and bandaged him.

After that, the dynamic was slightly changed. My uncle would be digging into a nice steak dinner, and Buck would give him his “you shot me….” look, and Buck got steak that evening.

singingsoul1

What a nice story.

TheseTruths

How could that be sexist? Some of those accusations are just crazy. She might as well say he wants to get a dog because he’s racist or a climate denier or something. None of it makes any sense, and we never used to hear this kind of “reasoning.”

Dora

singingsoul1

Tacky just like the Biden’s

Gail Combs

NOTICE IT IS NOT CHRISTIAN!

singingsoul1

I do not think they are. Anyone can say they are but the way they live life tells you much.

ROBERT BAKER

Even had choreography. Is this a glimpse of a new Broadway musical, Healthcare Christmas?

litenmaus

Healthcare Christmas musical featuring the new smash hit “You’re all gonna die.” The song is destined to become popular as “Somewhere over the Rainbow” just you wait and see…

scott467

Healthcare Christmas musical featuring the new smash hit “You’re all gonna die.”

_____________

👍😂🤣😂

wowohwow1528

with the Monty Python actors ringing bells an yelling “Bring out your dead”

marymorse

Maim

gil00

Barf.

Barb Meier

Poster people for enlarging the capacity of our mental institutions so these “folks” don’t hurt themselves. It is literal insanity.

holly

The one doing the most singing looks a lot like Hillary.

wowohwow1528

Blech …. hurl 🤮

arrogant gits

kalbokalbs

BiteMe and his Hoe Jill, give trailer trash a bad name.

gil00

Jesse Kelly (@JesseKellyDC) Tweeted:
Because you watch CNN.

https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1474096299251314689?s=20

Jesse Kelly (@JesseKellyDC) Tweeted:
I’m not anti-vaccine. I might have gotten one. I wanted to wait and see how it worked. But then you shut down all other treatments. And then you insisted people shouldn’t be allowed to work without one. Now you insist boosters are needed.

I’ve seen all I need to see.

https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1474098646383742979?s=20

Jesse Kelly (@JesseKellyDC) Tweeted:
If I’m standing in a room with ten doors and you tell me to ignore nine of them and only take one, I’m gonna be a little suspicious. If you then start threatening me if I don’t take that one, well now I’m never walking through it.

https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/1474099335814168580?s=20

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

AMEN!!!

cthulhu

Daunte Wright verdict in — guilty both counts.

Who in hell would want to be a cop in this version of the US?

https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/12/daunte-wright-shooting-trial-verdict-watch-day-4-is-today-the-day/

ROBERT BAKER

Given the present state of the government, especially how it has come to take shape in judicial proceedings, a line from Nietszche comes to mind:

“All things are subject to interpretation. Whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.” 

I can say with absolute certitude: I have no clear idea what has taken over American culture, but it is bad. I do believe it is a cancer that will destroy us. We may survive abandoning fact for preference but we will never survive preferring preference to truth.

TradeBait2

Very well stated.

When God lifted his veil of protection, this mess is what happened. It has been brewing for decades due to the hard hearts of our people and leaders.

Zechariah 1:3:Therefore say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord of hosts, “Return to Me,” declares the Lord of hosts, “that I may return to you,” says the Lord of hosts.

Job 22:23 “If you return to the Almighty, you will be restored; If you remove unrighteousness far from your tent,

James 4:8: Draw near to God and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners; and purify your hearts, you double-minded.

Acts 16:31: They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”

Gingersmom2009

This has nothing to do with anything, just hilarious.

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TradeBait2

How many broken hearts of parents to be and deaths of sweet unborn children will it take for PDT to tell us the truth? I get that the evil globalists love death. But he represented to us that he is MAGA, that he had our backs, and so on. Was that just for how long he could remain POTUS? What is the back story for supporting and defending the indefensible with COVID and the gene therapies to this day?

https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/horrifying-hidden-pfizer-data-show-unborn-babies-newborns-dying/

I get that he did great good and the light he has shone on evil has been enlightening. But why negate the legacy? My personal opinion is that we are chasing our tail and PDT is contributing to it. It’s up to him to change that opinion by his actions and not his words, not me.

Maybe we need to start asking different questions and see where the answers take us. What could it hurt to consider everything with no preconceptions? Like why was PDT on Epstein’s plane 7 times per the flight logs per the Maxwell trial? He was in the same elites’ circles as all of them including Mr. Depop himself, Bill Gates for decades. What does the DS have, if anything, on PDT that he would support death cult stuff with experimental jabs, do nothing for 4 years to stop an election steal he knew was coming, and allow himself to be kneecapped by the Dossier, Manafort, Flynn, Sessions, Rosenstein, Barr, Comey, Wray, McMaster, Pence, Priebus, Kelly, Ukraine, Fedsurrection, etc.? Who is really pulling the strings?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Gail Combs

POTUS is not talking to US, consider the venue.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

One must periodically consider the possibility that Trump’s job was simply to jerk us off for four years, and do nothing that couldn’t be instantly reversed.

For those who will be instantly outraged when they read that sentence:

It’s OK to reject it after due consideration, but the key word is due. Don’t just dismiss it as ridiculous. Otherwise you’re not doing your due diligence in trying to see through all the bullshit–much of which is meant to deceive us. If you reject it, be able to articulate why you reject it; what your evidence is. If you can’t articulate it, then maybe you’re taking “Trump is on our side” as an article of faith rather than as a reasoned position, and you’re being suckered.

You have to stop and ask yourself, every once in a while, “could I be wrong?”

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Gail Combs

I am of the opinion the Cabal picks for 2016 were Jeb Bush vs Hilary Clinton. They would prefer Hiltlary but Jeb was just as much of a puppet. The Rockefeller’s have OWNED that family since Samuel Bush.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I don’t think Hitlary is a puppet, she’s enthusiastically going along. She’s a foot soldier.

(No, I’m not claiming she’s the boss; I’m just claiming she’s wholeheartedly “with them” whereas a puppet might be trapped into it or even unaware what his actions are really leading toward and who they are benefitting.)

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Gail Combs

Oh I think BOTH of them were Cabal NOT puppets although not of the highest levels.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I don’t know Rubio except by reputation; he *could* just be a moderate republican dupe. The result would be the same either way.

TradeBait2

I can personally attest that the Clintons are Cabal – Rockefeller side.

Gail Combs

Thanks.

Aubergine

Oh, I’m asking.

This bullshit fake clot-shot quackzine nonsense is making me ask REAL HARD.

Every time I hear it out of his mouth, I get so mad my eyes twitch. Fury is a good word.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

When I looked back and realized that Trump accomplished almost nothing permanent…I started asking. I have for the most part decided the preponderance of the evidence was on the NO side, but the scale is starting to shift.

Aubergine

The dead babies, clot-shot deaths, and injuries are convincing me. I am on the knife edge. I will not support him if he encourages people to take this fucking poison. I will NOT.

para59r

90% of dems took the jab.
68% of independents took the jab.
56% of republicans too the jab.

Trump made the jab available for those people and he’s not going to lightly walk away from that. If he does he’s toast.

The people who did not take the jab are for a diverse set of reasons a bit more sophisticated in their thinking. But some of that sophistication stops at “my freedoms” and does not continue on to the serious health considerations of taking the jab.

The MSM is all in for the Jab. Talk radio is largely “My Freedoms” and not about serious health considerations. Trump wanted the Jab primarily to keep people at work, to keep the economy functioning.

Bannon and Navarro floated the platform for Trump to land on. Vax for vulnerable (some may have to stay on it for life). Give him time to get there. He’s working with a spastic society.

Aubergine

I hope so. I am not jumping ship yet. But I am damned mad.

Aubergine

One thing at least semi-permanent was the judges. They’ve been great so far, right? /SARC

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

YUP.

para59r

Trump pretty much undid the the entire Obama Presidency. Would of got about all of it, if not for McStain. Are we going to say that Obama was Republican in donkey clothing?

The permeance concept is good, but I see it applying more to congress critters and they way they play us rather than to Trump persay. I don’t see Trump as having played us. Did he get played? We’ll that’s obvious as he’s not in office now. But that was a fault of many of the people around him.

Valerie Curren

It’s possible that the Executive Orders (unconstitutional executive “legislation”?) were the Only way he could get some of his agenda items going. RINO Congress was majorly cabal controlled…DC is a cesspool.

I agree w/ your previous comment. Trump is Not Jesus so cannot get undying devotion. I Hope he was & is on the side of the angels but recognize he could just have been on the “going to Hell in a handbasket” brigade, but just not greasing the trail the way the Demoncrats openly do…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I’ve seen people here behave as if they believe Trump is infallible, omniscient and all powerful.

Christians should have problems with that, except in one case, and that case’s initials weren’t DJT.

Valerie Curren

Absolutely agree, Steve. JC is the Only person who Ever fulfilled that list!

It was also a reason, for me, to not be a Q follower, especially since Disinfo was part of the known mix of Q drops. I remained hopeful that it was (mostly) a good guys operation & it seemed that the Anons & Q followers were also mostly on the side of the angels.

No one but God will ever get my “full” trust. & even so I’m w/ the biblical skeptic who cried out “Lord I believe, help Thou my unbelief!” AND also w/ Pilate in his “What is Truth?” search–though the better question could have been Who is Truth!

Merry Christmas Eve blessings, Steve.

If/when you accept that perfect CHRISTmas Gift I’ll be right there with you in the skeptics & Doubting Thomas corner. God’s got a Really Big House!!!

TradeBait2

Thanks, Steve. You get it. I’m not saying with certainty one way or the other. People have chosen to believe in Trump. Why? Because he did some things and said some things they liked. Who was he before he decided to run? To be honest, I thought it was a joke when he said he was considering it. I never liked or trusted the man. I grew to really like his willingness to call things out and do some things we wanted to see done which were great for America. I will still support him if he wins the primary. But who is he personally in the elite circles he’s run in for decades?

How hard is it to use the pen (Soetoro) like Trump did with EO’s and reverse what he did, just like he did with Soetoro and W before him? Easy, and has been happening for the past year. So what legislation passed in PDT’s term to support MAGA? Tax reform with lower rates – the gold standard for the GOP for every GOP POTUS. Was there a full repeal of Obamacare? He promised that would happen immediately, but nah. Took out the penalty for not using it, that’s it. Still being used as a mechanism to push national healthcare and drive up deficits. Got the military budget increased with budget approval. The same military that is melting like an ice cream on a hot day as it is torn apart by the woke and vaccine mandates. Got a sign-off on the reworked NAFTA – after giving Nancy and Chuck some juice. IIRC the rest were all executive actions including killing burdensome fed regulations – with the pen passing to the criminal in the WH. The major legislation that passed benefitted us, but also benefitted the globalists. The Neocon military industrial complex loved the military budget increase. What happened to Keystone and with it exploration and expansion of that sector since the look at me Mr. Energy President passed the pen? Yep, doubled the gas prices at the pump and shut it down. Who is back to flooding the markets with their cheap azz products, why the Chi-coms of course. So much for that tariff attack since they own the Dems. Back to joining the Paris Climate accords in the future among other things.

Personally, I think the results of his term point out just how sold out our government is that even if he was/is sincere and is MAGA’s war time POTUS, there was very little he could accomplish that would be lasting, positive change for We the People. It is that corrupt in the swamp. It’s on us to change it at the local and state levels first. Continuously expose the bastards for who they are and support real patriots.

para59r

Gesh Steve, we have to write a book to answer this. Is this an essay question that if we don’t answer we have to possibly submit to the alternative. Okay, lets give it a try, but while my memory is not short my ability to articulate may be, which might be why this could take the better part of year to give a proper answer too.

Wall comes to mind, lets start there since we are doing this at the drop of hat and haven’t much time to formulate and format the nebulous task we’ve been given. Wall was it.. okay.. Not like he didn’t fight tooth and nail for the wall. In fact I think he even mentioned such during the campaign and had some solid ideas he’d articulate before even announcing a run for the presidency. Walls are reversible true, but they are harder to reverse than most things. Did Mr Global want a wall? No I don’t think so. In fact Mr Global was making it quite clear that we needed a wall as they kept sending waves and waves migrants up to North America, paying their way to settle here at essentially no benefit to the American people with the one exception, the Democrat party and what ever service it would do to collapse this country for Mr Global. Did the Dems want a wall? Heck no they tried to deny him the money, also no wall was great for their coffers. Was the wall a good idea? Great Idea as it was doing much to hinder the movement of drugs, human trafficking and illegals from crossing the border.

Was fighting human trafficking just a gimmick?
Was getting NATO to pay their fair share just a gimmick?
Was pounding terrorist into dust just a gimmick?
Was confronting China on trade policies and rolling back their largesse just a gimmick?
Was nailing ISIS to wall just a gimmick?
Was Right to Try just a gimmick?
Was Veteran Health Care just a gimmick?
Was staring down North Korea just a gimmick?

Heck the list of things Trump did for America are an arm long and not going to drag up a list to put them here, besides everyone’s read them. They also saw all the adversity and road blocks tossed up to make sure none of these that happened but they happened anyway. Are we thinking he tossed the election? I don’t think anyone is thinking that, so all these things would of still been around if he had won.

Meanwhile Hillary was our alternative to Trump and she was more than prepared speed up this countries demise at the behest of Mr Global should she had won.

Questioning Trumps motives is not a sane or rational way of thinking. It may apply to some of those around him but to apply it to Trump isn’t going to pan. So no, I don’t think anyone needs to ask if we could be wrong. He had a commitment to the American people and for once we had a president that was taking that commitment seriously.

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Um, note that I didn’t come down on this one way or the other; I just said we have to remind ourselves to question EVERYTHING when we’re dealing with all the multiple level deceit that’s out there.

I will admit that his stance on the vaccine is a heavy weight in the “bad” side of the balance for me.

But you have declared his motives off limits for questioning…so, that’s that. Dogma.

para59r

Facts have a funny way of becoming dogma so you got me.  😎 
But I’m sure if we search we can find something that Trump was being disingenuous about. He is human after all. Well.. maybe not.. but that’s for another time.

Please

I’d have to ask “why would they put in maga/trump when they could have had either bush or hrc?”

Gingersmom2009

I have never seen 7 times on the plane. I saw he hitched a ride from Palm Beach to Newark, once, and Epstein wasn’t onboard. If that info were out there it would have been 24/7 for a week straight.

He banned Epstein from mar-a-lago, and assisted the prosecution in some capacity – 20 years ago or whenever that was. If it were not true he could be in trouble for stating it.

That being said, he absolutely cannot keep this tap-dance up much longer. He has to find the path.

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Gail Combs

Riled everyone up didn’t he?
And just before we all visit during the holidays.

Going to be some interesting conversations maybe? Conversation that would probably NOT have taken place other wise?

Aubergine

I’m not ruining MY Christmas talking about dead babies. It’s bad enough I have to talk/read/think about it the other 364 days of the year.

This is beyond the pale. It’s too much. If Trump doesn’t shut up, I quit. I have fought my heart out against this Covid bullshit for two years. I have done everything I could to keep people I care about from taking this poison. To have our supposed leader subverting me is TOO DAMN MUCH.

How do I keep convincing normie Conservatives NOT to take it, when the Great and Powerful OZ is telling them to do it? What a fantastic position he has put me in. I will denounce him from the rooftops to keep them from doing it, I mean that. I will campaign against him with people to save them from his poison.

singingsoul1

That is just it how do I convince my kids I am not a loony because I do not take the jab. They now can say Trump is saying the jab’s are fine.
I worry about other people who are on the fence if they should get a jab and now take it maybe with consequences. Wonder who will sue Trump now if they get sick from the jab or family when one person dies?
It is almost as if he is sabotaging himself.

Aubergine

It is, isn’t it? Weird.

But I do know people who have had the shot and it completely changed their personalities. I know people who had it who now have brain fog and confusion. And not elderly people. Forties, fifties people.

This thing is dangerous, Trump is pushing it. I don’t know how to respond. I will denounce him to anyone who uses him as an argument FOR the vaxx. I really will. And if I have to do that, I will stick to it.

singingsoul1

Maybe Trump is confused from the shots?

Aubergine

Maybe. I have considered it.

scott467

Dr. Malone is becoming a well known figure now, at least to people who research on the Interwebs, and to people who still watch Fox News.

Dr. Malone is now promoting Mattias Desmet’s ‘mass psychosis’ theory, i.e., that most of the normies who can’t see what’s going on are literally hypnotized, in a similar way as has happened in the past, and he uses people of Germany leading up to (and during) WWII as an example.

It was done on purpose then, and the mass psychosis has been induced on purpose now. It’s psychological warfare.

What if the best way to shatter the hypnotic trance is to create so much societal friction (arguing, fighting, general angst, etc.) that people are compelled to snap out of it?

What if the only way out is to make everyone so *&^% angry that the trance cannot be maintained?

Just a thought.

Aubergine

It’s a good thought. And I am so damned mad if that’s the plan, it’s working like a charm on me.

singingsoul1

PS my kids already think I am a loony  😂 

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

You are a loony, but you’re our loony. 🙂

singingsoul1

Love it 🙂 Only good I love myself as I am 🙂

scott467

“This is beyond the pale. It’s too much. If Trump doesn’t shut up, I quit.”

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Probably better to get even, than to quit. 😁

Aubergine

Well, I said and I meant that I will disavow him totally if I have to to convince people not to take the poison. I meant that. My vote is not worth someone’s health, or their life.

singingsoul1

I only read Trump did fly one time on Epstein plane. Yes you are right he hitched a ride.
At this time I am very careful what I read because they are out to get Trump. The thing is if Trump was supposed to be with the cabal then it cost him lots of money. Lawyers are not cheap and fighting on so many fronts in court could be tiring.
With the jabs they puzzle me and i have not figured out what is going on. I know what Peter Nevaro thinks “he said on Bannon the jab was supposed to be for over 65 and people with health problems never meant for younger people. He was overruled.
Maybe he was not prepared being surrounded by people with self interests and using the power of president for their agenda.
I always believed his daughter and son being in the WH was not a good idea they also had an agenda. Nothing taking away from them they might be nice and good people.

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TradeBait2

It’s in the Maxwell court documents that has been reported. 7 times. Twice with his children.

singingsoul1

Lets see what the explanation is. Maybe he hitched rides back and fourth from Florida to NY. I would be more concerned if he flew to the island or teenager said “they had a relationship with him”.

Gail Combs

Epstein was trying to entrap POTUS Trump. You do that by being ‘friendly’

In 2016 it came up that Trump was invited to a party at Epstein’s Florida property. There were teenage girls in the pool and Trump remarked to his chauffeur how nice it was for Epstein to allow the neighbor hood kids to use the pool. Trump stayed at the party for about 10 minutes and then left. This was a story by Trump’s chauffeur.

Trump also kicked Epstein out of his Florida club because of his actions towards the daughter of an employee. He also volunteered info to the police.

kalbokalbs

Until there IS hard evidence Trump did something wrong, he has a pass by me.

Seemingly trump AND his family IS baited continuously, and they take the high road.

singingsoul1

Innocent until proven guilty is my take. The society seems to find people guilty then one has to prove innocent. Trump had that for 5 years.

singingsoul1

Yes I heard the story also. Epstein was a neighbor and maybe he did not know what the guy was up too?

TradeBait2

Agree the plan rides could have been innocent. I contend he knew for years what Epstein was up to like all the rest of the elites that were imbibing. Needs to be more about any business dealings Trump may have had with Epstein. Even said he liked the guy openly in the press, until the bad event happened under his watch on his property.

para59r

Interesting and did they mention all the other flights that we haven’t heard about all these years or is this a selective release? I hear that there are many many more, but this is the first I’ve heard it be added to by name.

TradeBait2

Maxwell court documents – 7 times, twice with children.

Sadie Slays

Incoming rant that has been brewing all day and is not aimed at anyone in particular. Everywhere I’ve checked the news today has been nothing but bitter division over President Trump’s vaccine decision. Two camps of people—”President Trump is doing it because [theory]” vs. “President Trump betrayed us and was always a cabal tool“—and not a whole of nuance inbetween. It’s becoming a lot like that stupid Wood-Powell-Flynn soap opera all over again with the distraction and division. And, IMO, bad actors are blatantly and successfully exploiting President Trump’s vaccine stance to distract and divide entire communities.

Again, I am not making any personal accusations here. This is what I’ve observed in every single Q and MAGA-related community I’ve checked today. All I’m saying is that people need to be mindful of the manipulation. 

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singingsoul1

You are right the jab issue is causing division. I like to hear more about Trump’s stance on the jab and his reasoning after someone explains to him what is happening the truth, At this moment I believe he has no clue. Bannon needs to send him some clips or Nevaro or Dr Melon. I know Dr Zelenko contacted the Trump WH several times. He was in contact with Mark Meadows.

Sadie Slays

If President Trump was aware of the 16-year Plan to Destroy America, then he’s probably more than aware that genocidal vaccines were part of the plan to usher in the NWO/Great Reset. I refuse to accept the stance (that I’ve seen argued elsewhere so this is not personal either) that “President Trump doesn’t know.” He Knows. The man who greenlit the Q operation Knows. 

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singingsoul1

Then I am a moron Trump is the genius and is playing chess. If he has a goal a plan then so be it. That is why I am confused.

Sadie Slays

You are not a moron, and I don’t know what President Trump’s ultimate plan is. It’s just a general rant not aimed at anyone in particular. A lot of these “why Trump is defending the vaccines” theories hinge on him conveniently knowing everything else about Q and the 16-year plan EXCEPT for this one super crucial component in the plan with the vaccines. Trump is apparently totally unaware that the Deep State and Fauci and Big Pharma are capable of abusing vaccinations to kill people and grab power. I don’t buy it.

singingsoul1

Sadie you make sense. I wait and see have lots of patience. This has been a long year.
You always think rational and make good posts 🙂
Merry Christmas

Sadie Slays

Thank you, and Merry Christmas to you, too.

singingsoul1

🙂 Thank you

para59r

Okay, but we didn’t know about the vaccines being in the 16 year plan.

singingsoul1

You are most likely right.

para59r

It’s my personal opinion that there was never a Q operation green lit.
Q is something else entirely. Something that sprang up with in and was aloud to continue.

para59r

Oh.. adds. We all knew about the 16 year plan. I don’t recall we knew about the genocidal vaccines. It would of come up if we had.

Aubergine

If Trump would shut the hell up, they wouldn’t have anything to exploit.

Sadie Slays

I’m sure President Trump has his reasons, and it’s not our job to defend them. He’s on his own with this, and I suspect that he’s probably okay with that. All I’m trying to do is warn people that there’s a deliberate, organized effort out there to break apart patriot communities over this issue, and hope that we at the Q Tree can weather that storm regardless of how we feel about President Trump’s opinion.

kalbokalbs

Point well taken.

Best I see is, the dialogue is OK. Not divisive, as it seemed to be with Woods, Flynn, KR, Sidney…

Die hard Trump supporter here. BUT, pushing the Covid injections as “SAFE” or “EFFECTIVE” is out to lunch. IMO.

  • Given all the preventive stuff AND EFFECTIVE treatments, can’t rationalize the injection.
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Sadie Slays

NOTHING about that stupid Wood-Powell-Flynn drama was worth losing people here, and I hope it can be avoided this time. Look, I am not happy with President Trump right now and am pretty damn blackpilled over the injections, but I can also sense when something foul is trying to manipulate and divide, and there is something is afoot about all of this.

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kalbokalbs

Spot on.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

We’re gonna be OK. I see where this exits – and I think Trump does, too. I get all sides of this, now.

The vaccines are NOT SAFE like previous vaccines. They’re RISKY. But the disease is risky, too, and durability of immunity is now comparable, IMO.

The vaccine makers are CRIMINAL, they HIDE DATA, and they’re LIARS.

The mRNA technology was FOISTED on us by people who ABUSED a phony, treasonous crisis they CREATED, and we’re not sure how UNSAFE it is, but it could be really bad, but more likely not, IMO.

I’m not gonna sugar-coat this shit. But people can STILL take rational risks with this vaccine – no more irrational than wearing a cool but worthless helmet on a chopper.

Natural immunity is a risk. No helmet. Both risks are defensible.

RF121

As omi-con is a fizzle, the yelling and screaming that accompanied Delta was not going to work this time. Some still doing it, but over all not the same. Some narrative change is needed.

RF121

Name anyone in gubmint, the media that even acknowledges adverse effects of the jabs? The vast main stream consensus is they are safe. And if you look at percentages you could make that case. Plus the last thing those that got jabbed want to contemplate is that the jabs are not safe. So sticking their heads in the sand is a safe play at this point.

kalbokalbs

Gubmint LIES EVERY DAY regarding Covid, covid injections.

“Concensus” IS dictated NARRATIVE. NOT TRUTH. NOT TRANSPARENCY.

Percentages of what data? Can we at least have an honest analysis of VAERS? Stop calling “dying with Covid” the same as DIES OF Covid?

OK, the jabbed prefer to be in denial. True going in. At some point, perhaps they want to face reality. Look at their options to maintain their health.

RF121

If the truth comes out, people in charge need to hang. So I doubt it will. Still waiting on the JFK files I believe.

Aubergine

I agree. I DO NOT blame anyone, take disagreement personally, or get mad if someone thinks the complete opposite of me. I am just expressing how I feel about it all.

kalbokalbs

Bingo.

Be proud he pushed the system. AND, be transparent with the results.

Aubergine

Yes.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

AMEN.

People are not being rational.

I think Trump understands this. I think he’s lit the fire now intentionally, like a back-burn, before the other side was ready for arson.

ROBERT BAKER

Wolf would you elaborate on your comment? I am not clear on what argument you are advancing. It seems as though you are arguing that Trump understands that people are not thinking rationally and made those comments as a strategy to forestall cabal actions. What do you think Trump’s reasoning is?

singingsoul1

He might use reverse psychology not for us but our enemies.

Gail Combs

When the Sheeple finally figure out the Clot shot is poison, the Cabal are going to try to HANG THE MESS AROUND TRUMP’s NECK.

Wolfie’s AND Logic at work. Depopulate PLUS get rid of Trump.

By acting like a stupid sheeple he confuses the Cabal and makes it very tough to say he DELIBERATELY POISONED AMERICANS AND THE WORLD.

Another benefit is to GET PEOPLE TALKING! GET INFORMATION OUT THERE!
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Meanwhile Trump’s Troops have been busy warning people about the Clot shot and have been working hard to come up with alternatives and getting them out to the public.

If some of us are correct. Dr Hatfill’s ‘Moving Vaccine’ aka Omicron, spikes the guns of the REAL Danger, a leaky vaccine turning a virus into a VERY VIRULENT KILLER. A situation where the choice really is take the vaccine or die.

Karl’s Well, Duh. This Is Why It Was Stupid* explains the problem.

The PBS article, This chicken vaccine makes its virus more dangerousshows what a mass vaccination scheme with a ‘leaky vaccine’ can result in.

…But a chicken virus that represents one of the deadliest germs in history breaks from this conventional wisdom, thanks to an inadvertent effect from a vaccine. Chickens vaccinated against Marek’s disease rarely get sick. But the vaccine does not prevent them from spreading Marek’s to unvaccinated birds.

“With the hottest strains, every unvaccinated bird dies within 10 days….

In fact, rather than stop fowl from spreading the virus, the vaccine allows the disease to spread faster and longer than it normally would, a new study finds. The scientists now believe that this vaccine has helped this chicken virus become uniquely virulent.

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“With the hottest strains, every unvaccinated bird dies within 10 days. There is no human virus that is that hot. Ebola, for example, doesn’t kill everything in 10 days,” said Read, who is an evolutionary biologist at Penn State University….

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scott467

“When the Sheeple finally figure out the Clot shot is poison, the Cabal are going to try to HANG THE MESS AROUND TRUMP’s NECK.

Wolfie’s AND Logic at work. Depopulate PLUS get rid of Trump.

By acting like a stupid sheeple he confuses the Cabal and makes it very tough to say he DELIBERATELY POISONED AMERICANS AND THE WORLD.”

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Doesn’t that just create a “what did he know, and when did he know it?” scenario?

If DJT is acting, then he knows the clot shot is poison, and he is leading sheeple who were on the fence into taking the shot, along with their innocent children, who have no ability to speak for themselves or resist.

If DJT is not acting, if he really believes in the clot shot, then as Sadie said, he doesn’t know anything about the Cabal’s 16+ year plan, or anything else that’s going on.

In that case, he’s just Chauncey Gardiner, and we projected VSG Triple-D Chess Sun Tzu warrior status onto him.

But that can’t be right either, because he didn’t just ‘luck’ into becoming POTUS, and he didn’t just ‘luck’ into beating two Impeachment efforts and a 4-year long non-stop an all-out IC effort to remove him.

Regardless, the only people who are confused, like always, are We the People.

The enemy knows for sure whether DJT is “for ’em or against them.”

The enemy has no doubts.

The enemy is not fooled by any of his BS, if indeed it is BS.

As always, the only people who are in the dark, are us.

holly

👍👍👍

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I think mandates were used as a cruel psy-op against people who were muddling along with chosen, comfortable stances of all kinds on the vaccines (vax, don’t vax, decide later, don’t care just delay, etc.). Mandates created URGENCY that created psychological pressure.

Part of the ploy was shifting mandate blame to vax blame on the part of the anti-vax people, and the “delayed decision” people, many of whom were in Trump’s base. The media would not state negatives about the vaccines, so we would have to discover and publicize those ourselves, creating an echo chamber that would increase division and irrationality.

Trump is bursting that division.

I don’t KNOW if part of his timing has to do with changes in the current state of knowledge about the disease and the vaccines, or is related to the omicron explosion.

For me, having COVID a second time changes the calculations drastically. All one has to do to be rational here, is to look at the negatives of the death shots, and the negatives of the disease, and the amount of time that either one gives immunity to the next wave.

We had NO IDEA about the true durability of natural immunity until now, but IMO the numbers create much more of a horse race.

When natural immunity was potentially 10-17 years or even greater, it struck me as a really smart option. But I only got 2 years. If the “death shot” is 1/16 as dangerous as the disease, 4 boosters in 2 years is a winner, for somebody with no contraindications or comorbidities.

I *ACTUALLY* follow the science, which is now up for grabs, after getting a second case of COVID at 2 years. I followed the science AWAY from the jabs, and now I’m back CLOSER to the jabs for some people.

I’m not planning on having kids. I’m not planning on living 50 more years. If these jokers at Pfizer could offer strain-only-sterilizing vaccines that Geert Vanden Bossche blessed, AND they could make those strain-specific for the current ones, AND the rate of evolution meant a new vaccine in 6 months, and the side effects were less than say 1/16 the dangers of COVID itself – well – that sounds like a good deal to me.

Now if I had a specific contraindication that made the shots much more dangerous (say, a clotting problem), I would probably stick with a new case of COVID every 2 years.

These are both bad options. But THAT is the result of getting only 2 years of protection by natural immunity. It changes the relative reward of the two approaches.

I’m just making the best choice for me, which at the moment (I’ve got 2 years, maybe) is to not get the shot. But at 1.5 years, a really safe shot would have appeal to me, to extend my immunity.

MY advantage is that I can admit that BOTH the vaccine and the disease are risky. THEY’RE BOTH NASTY.

Gail Combs

I think I would rather go with keeping my immune system in tip top shape, therapeutics & **monoclonal antibodies. HOWEVER I am still quite healthy for my age and weathered my tangle(s) with Covid reasonably well. My decision will probably change with time.

As long as there is a CHOICE as there is with the flu shot, I’m good.

**I am taking it the monoclonal antibodies can keep up with the variants at the same pace as the vaccines.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The trouble with antibodies is you have to have the right ones READY TO GO. That really great paper on omicron proved that NONE of the commercial antibodies out now work worth crap on it.

Gail Combs

I realize that. However the vaccines don’t work either. That is why I said the same pace as the vaccines.

ROBERT BAKER

Thank you for your quick response. Is it fair to say that, for you, COVID and its attendant therapies are a probability matrix? And further, your therapeutic paradigm is influenced by your health experience with COVID?

I can understand how that reasoning would impact your approach to vaccine therapy. What I still do not grasp is Trump’s strategy. I guess I must wait for further input. The blame game model does not strike me as an appropriate interpretation of his actions.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes and yes. And I think Trump had a probability matrix and based on what he knew and what he knew he didn’t know, he chose to try to get vaccines quickly. I think he tried to get therapeutics, too, for those who didn’t like vaccines, and that “deep science” blocked him intentionally and cruelly.

scott467

“I *ACTUALLY* follow the science, which is now up for grabs, after getting a second case of COVID at 2 years.”

_______________

[JB]: good tree, or corrupt tree?

Fauxi: good tree, or corrupt tree?

Hussein: good tree, or corrupt tree?

Sorass: good tree, or corrupt tree?

Klaus Schwab: good tree, or corrupt tree?

Gates: good tree, or corrupt tree?

Xi Jinping: good tree, or corrupt tree?

Leadership of Big Tech: good tree, or corrupt tree?

Leadership of WHO: good tree, or corrupt tree?

CDC: good tree, or corrupt tree?

Leadership of Pfizer: good tree, or corrupt tree?

Leadership of Moderna: good tree, or corrupt tree?

Leadership of J&J: good tree, or corrupt tree?

……………………………
“Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Tools Unchecked [17] Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. [18] A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.” (Matthew 7:16-18, KJV, boldface emphasis mine)
……………………………

I don’t understand the point of pouring through the data, trying to suss out some ‘good’ from the very intentional work product of evil.

If you happen to discover any good, and it becomes known, they will cease and desist, because their entire motive and purpose is to do evil, not good.

It’s like a guy who has been convicted ten times for hiding razor blades in apples for the kids on Halloween.

This year he has another barrel of apples for the kids, and you’re looking through the whole barrel, each and every apple, trying to find just ONE that doesn’t have a razor in it.

Even if you happen to find one, it will have been an oversight on his part, and he will rectify it! 😂

Likewise, there will be no good that comes from these monsters, because they are monsters, because they are HELL BENT on evil.

And if any good accidentally came from their efforts, they would correct that error, as soon as it came to their attention.

Because these are not people who are acting in GOOD FAITH, these are people who are acting in BAD FAITH.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

BOTH the virus AND the vaccines are ultimately works PROVOKED by evil, but then the virus works on its own, while the vaccine is forwarded through a combination of minions and dupes, so that some evil options become impossible.

For example, the vaccine can’t be BAD beyond certain measures which would cause normies inside the companies to say “Well, we can’t do THAT.” If bad things can be snuck past them, sure, but if not, then those things don’t fly.

I think the vaccines would kill many more people if some of the bad faith people had just a bit more wiggle room.

scott467

“If these jokers at Pfizer could offer strain-only-sterilizing vaccines that Geert Vanden Bossche blessed, AND they could make those strain-specific for the current ones, AND the rate of evolution meant a new vaccine in 6 months, and the side effects were less than say 1/16 the dangers of COVID itself – well – that sounds like a good deal to me.”

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So four “ifs”.

Even if Pfizer could produce such a Unicorn, why would they do it, if they are captured by / working with the DS, and their whole reason for existence is to do harm?

.

“MY advantage is that I can admit that BOTH the vaccine and the disease are risky. THEY’RE BOTH NASTY.”

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I can admit that both the vaccine and the disease are risky.

I can even admit they were both created by the same globalist totalitarian psychopaths.

What I don’t understand is why the same globalist totalitarian psychopaths would ever produce a vaccine that helped people survive against their own Covid bio-weapon.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Ah, that’s a good question – and the answer is really horrible!

Think about it. Why would they want us alive and taking the vaccine without question?

scott467

“Ah, that’s a good question – and the answer is really horrible!

______________

It always is! It’s never a good answer! 😂 🤣 😂

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“Think about it. Why would they want us alive and taking the vaccine without question?”

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Could be to make sure the vaxxed spread the disease to those who won’t take the vaxx.

Could be to make everyone sick, which will make everyone grifting off the medical industrial complex richer. More profit in sick people than dead people.

Could be they just enjoy watching people suffer.

Could be they’re conditioning people to ever greater forms of submission.

Could be they’ve watched too many zombie apocalypse movies 😁

RF121

Not a single politician in any party running for President in 2024 will have an anti vax position as a part of their platform. None. Us hard core “anti vaxxers” are a minority. A very stubborn minority. While I disagree with Trump on this, he still has the best position out of any other politician who speaks on covid.

Sadie Slays

We literally do not know who is running for President in 2024. Impossible to have an anti-vax position when we don’t even have candidates.

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RF121

Just saying who ever it is will be pro vax.

Sadie Slays

Not if a massive amount of vax-related death and injuries pushes the Overton Window to the point where being pro-vax is highly unpopular. A lot can happen in three years. We don’t even have 2024 candidates or even a secure election system (Trump won), but we somehow we already know their political platforms!

RF121

Yes, the vax damage has to become main stream. But with that comes huge liability for those involved so I just don’t see it. Possible with the right visibility.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Trump could actually play a very smart position of vaccine realism, where he admits that these vaccines are not as safe as earlier vaccines, but that this is a terrible bargain we were forced into, and thus that mandates are a Sophie’s choice – terrible and immoral. He can CRUSH the other side from a position of vaccine/disease realism.

“I will never force you to take a medicine that you fear or don’t want.”

Medical freedom could be a big winner.

RF121

Yes, but we will need media and medical research showing the vax safety issues. So far still buried except in small pockets in our media world.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Oh, I see some great possibilities here, but I’ll let Trump exploit them, rather than preparing the other side.

para59r

Yes. Anti hard core policy would be something much more than “My Freedoms” which is where the vast majority of talking heads in the Republican party are right now. People concerned with vax injury and death and the whys of that are still a minority group.

GA/FL

Wondering – Is Trump legally liable if he recommend the vaccine and says it’s safe, while adverse effects are being discovered?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I think the whole idea of “safe drugs” is dishonest. That said, the vaccines are “legally safe”, by THEIR (the government’s) rules.

GA/FL

Amen, Wolf Moon!

singingsoul1

I wondered the same.

para59r

Gail hinted at that. Meanwhile Trump might not even be doing it on purpose, but things have a way of working out for him. Providence.

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EllieLA

I said this at the bottom of page one. Take a step back and look at it logically. Trump is taking the side of the MSM, the FAKE NEWS. Does that make sense to any of you? He would be the last person to give them any credence. He knows we are smart and that we do our own research. No one who has avoided the Vax up to now is going to suddenly change their mind, just because he says so. He knows that he is temporarily upsetting some of his base, but he’s also perplexing those on the left who want to condemn everything he says. He hasn’t abandoned us or the Front Line Doctors.

What’s in the news today? More Democrat Politicians, Pocahauntas, James Clyburn, etc., claiming that they have COVID – despite having been fully vaxxed.

Sadie Slays

That recent news about the US military vaccine also seems conveniently timed.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Antigen vaccine – could target 20-some strains at once – may be too big for a lot of side-effect processes – I’m very curious about adverse effects.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

You might want to read this post and watch the video of Trump with Candace Owens.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/12/23/president-trump-supports-vaccine-doesnt-support-mandates/

Please

“Pace and lead”?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Saturday “Reason There Is A Season” daily is in the can.

Gail Combs

Thanks Steve and Merry Christmas!

kalbokalbs

Looking forward to Saturday.

Aubergine

Cool! Looking forward to it.

TradeBait2

👍

Sadie Slays

Kentucky tornado update. The official death toll is now a highly-symbolic “76.” 

Then, on Monday, Beshear said officials confirmed a worker from the Mayfield candle factory that was rescued after the tornado succumbed to their injuries.

That brings the updated death total to 76.

https://www.wlky.com/article/kentucky-tornado-update-death-toll-storm-track-impact-dec-20/38572217

Valerie Curren

Why is 76 symbolic? I really appreciate so many of your comments Sadie!

RF121

Did I post this one.

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

😀

I don’t think you have before now, so it’s a good thing you did.

Valerie Curren

That was hilarious–had to share w/ hubby & we both laughed out loud–thanks!