Dear KMAG: 20221121 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic

Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.


The [Q+4]th of November, 2022

Also, Twitter Liberation Day Plus One!


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And indeed, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will CARVE TURKEY!

Maybe show off some dance moves!

And get ready for a WILD RIDE!


Dedication

Image: https://gab.com/wheatietoo

WHEATIE – OUR WARRIOR ANGEL

by Duchess01


Please forgive us, Wheatie, we did not know
That you had left us with armor in tow
We had no idea with what you dealt
We did not know the pain you felt
And now we can only imagine
With you what really did happen
Cause rarely did you complain 
And/or share your personal pain
Of one thing we are most certain
You are flying high behind the curtain
Watching over us above the crowds
Our Warrior Angel above the clouds
Thank You, Wheatie, for caring for us
While you were here among the fuss
We miss you dear you have no idea
Since time began in the pangaea
With you there was no time
In your wisdom you would chime
To clarify and magnify
The what where how and why
We did not question when you left
We were not slightly bereft
But over time we wondered why
You did not at least stop by
Now we know where you have gone
With the break of this new dawn
We could be angry but are not
Tho with an arrow we’ve been shot
Rest peacefully Warrior Angel dear
Send us a sign that you are near
A butterfly a flower a kiss of rain
From your love do not refrain
God sends Angels to watch over us
And now we have an Angel Plus
A Warrior Angel of Magnificence
From today and forward hence

LINK: https://www.theqtree.com/2019/05/23/the-poetry-tree/comment-page-2/#comment-917655


The Rules

TL;DR –

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

Boilerplate, more or less, but worth reading again and again, if only for the minor changes, and to stay out of moderation.


MINOR CHANGE NUMBER 1

Never talk about committing violence in a reply to Wolf or in response to anything Wolf has said, or you may get put into moderation so that your comments can be screened. This is ONLY because DHS is now playing door-knock Gestapo with people who have spoken at school board meetings, made public comments, etc. DHS regime jackboots are knocking on doors of school board mama bears and stupidly insinuating potential violence from things people say or don’t say on social media. A guy in Ohio pointed his FINGER at the school board, and they went after him, armed with pictures of the pointing, and screen captures of online comments. Yeah.

SO – give the Nazis ZERO ammo. Keep any mention of violence, even joking, away from Wolf, so that he doesn’t have to “explain” humor to humorless jackboots who pretend not to know things.

As for discussion of “violent humor” among yourselves (e.g., “#TeamHeadsOnPikes”), just use whatever discretion you think is appropriate for yourselves. I will only put you in moderation if your comments create problems for ME or THIS SITE, but not if they only impact you.

YOU are responsible for your own comments, if they come knocking. YOUR choice. Just remember this…..

OTHER THAN THAT…….


The bottom line is Free Speech. Theories and ideas you don’t agree with must be WELCOME here, and you must be part of that welcoming. But you do NOT need to be part of any agreement.

Bottom line – respect other people’s FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

Our only additional requirement is that you do so NICELY. Or at least try to make some effort in that direction.

SO….. [ENGAGE BOILERPLATE…..]

We must endeavor to persevere to love our frenemies – even here.

Those who cannot deal with this easy requirement will be forced to jump the hoops of moderation, so that specific comments impugning other posters and violating the minimal rules can be sorted out and tossed in the trash.

In Wheatie’s words, “We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

That includes the life skill of just ignoring certain other posters.

We do have a site – The U Tree – where civility is not a requirement. Interestingly, people don’t really go there much. Nevertheless, if you find yourself in an “argument” that can’t really stay civil, please feel free to “take it to the U Tree”. The U Tree is also a good place to report any technical difficulties, if you’re unable to report them here. Please post your comment there on one of Wolf’s posts, or in reply to one of Wolf’s comments, to make sure he sees it (though it may take a few hours).

We also have a backup site, called The Q Tree as well, which is really The Q Tree 579486807. You might call it “Second Tree”. The URL for that site is https://theqtree579486807.wordpress.com/. If this site (theqtree.com) ever goes down, please reassemble at the Second Tree.

If the Second Tree goes down, please go to The U Tree, or to our Gab Group, which is located at https://gab.com/groups/4178.

We also have some “old rules” and important guidelines, outlined here, in a very early post, on our first New Year’s Day, in 2019. The main point is not to make violent threats against people, which then have to be taken seriously by law enforcement, and which can be used as a PRETEXT by enemies of this site.

In the words of Wheatie, “Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”


A Moment of Prayer

Our policy on extreme religious freedom on this site is discussed HERE. Please feel free to pray and praise God anytime and anywhere.

Thus, please pray for our real President, the one who actually won the election.

You may also pray for our nation, our world, and even our enemies.


Musical Interlude

In honor of dear Wheatie, we now present some music to soothe, inspire, invigorate, or relax.

OK – this is WHEATIE-APPROVED….

EPIC THANKSGIVING DANCE PARTY!

They get a bit worse from there – but here’s one more….

OK – no more “furries”. Let’s go back in time and get away!

That’s better!

But what is best in thanksgiving? Wolf! Answer!

2Jesus invited a little child to stand among them. 3“Truly I tell you,” He said, “unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. 4Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this little child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 5And whoever welcomes a little child like this in My name welcomes Me.


Call To Battle

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

https://thelibertydaily.com/can-you-spot-the-difference-between-twitter-today-versus-twitter-before-elon-musk/

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Aw, heck – let’s have a twofer!

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.


Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Wolfie’s Wheatie’s Word of the Day Year Week:


defamation

noun

The act of defaming; calumny, slander, or libel.

The act of defaming; the wrong of injuring another’s reputation without good reason or justification; aspersion.

The act of communicating to a third party false statements about a person, place or thing that results in damage to its reputation.

Any intentional false communication, either written or spoken, that harms a person’s reputation; decreases the respect, regard, or confidence in which a person is held; or induces disparaging, hostile, or disagreeable opinions or feelings against a person. Defamation may be a criminal or civil charge.

[Formerly defamation was used more with reference to slander or spoken words. In modern use slander is spoken defamation and libel is published defamation. Both are subjects for civil action for damages. Libel alone is usually punishable criminally, the common test of criminality being that it tends to a breach of the peace.] 

synonyms 

Detraction, aspersion, backbiting, scandal, libel.

Used in a title:

Elon Musk DROPS ADL CEO for ‘defaming’ him over reinstating Trump’s Twitter account and DAMN son

LINK: https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/11/20/elon-musk-drops-adl-ceo-for-defaming-him-over-reinstating-trumps-twitter-account-and-damn-son/

Explored in Tweets:

And THAT is why I’m happy to be back on Twitter!

ENJOY THE SHOW

Have another great week!

W

Original Wheatie Context: https://www.theqtree.com/2019/12/28/dear-kmag-20191228-open-topic/

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TheseTruths

This is more like it! Last week’s placeholder (“place Holder under arrest” 😊) tipped me off that something was wrong. I hope you are doing well, Wolf.

The Thanksgiving video with the animals was wild, and you can’t go wrong with Charlie Brown and Peanuts.

Defaming seems to only apply under certain circumstances. People say horrible things about Trump all the time, and he often gives back in kind. So I guess that, legally, it doesn’t apply to public figures (?).

Deplorable Patriot

Special request for attention to the YouTube thing.

Not being able to post YT videos is cramping my style.  😎 

barkerjim

Can always post the link and a short description.

para59r

Or turn the youtube vid into a tweet and post that.

Valerie Curren

For those that aren’t still banned 😉

cthulhu

Bah.

para59r

quick reminder, use the share button on any youtube vid and make a tweet of it and then post that. Quick and efficient, just two extra steps….

cthulhu
TheseTruths

I don’t even want to read it. ☹️

pgroup2

That’s two of us.

  :wpds_mad: 

Gail Combs

Threeees

scott467

Poor Schlicter.

cthulhu

Eh. He’s digging his own hole.

TheseTruths

I wonder why. Paid off? Compromised in some other way? From his other articles he hasn’t seemed like a globalist or a RINO.

TheseTruths

I understand what you’re saying, but I don’t give Schlichter that much credit. You’re talking about a harsh, dire situation where our elections are stolen and manipulated without remedy. (And that is how it’s looking right now.) He’s talking about vetting people’s positives and negatives as if they’re on a level playing field. I don’t see how it helps, even if he thinks *they* would “allow” RDS in but not PDJT. And if it means being subjected to two years of rah-rah-RDS over PDJT from him and other people — or even attempts to make the two seem equal — count me out. We need to be unified, and we should be working to fix the problem, not playing into someone else’s efforts to take over America. IMO, playing their game would indicate we have given up. We need to be looking at who is the best person for the job, and that is PDJT, hands down. The rest is annoying fluff and silliness, if not downright capitulation.

Are we at (internal) war, or not? If so, why talk smack about your general? Schlichter is a military man, so he should know better.

Tonawanda

100% agree! A column like this from KS promotes the false premise that electoral politics are on the up and up.

kalbokalbs

^^^ Nicely stated. ^^^

…the best person for the job…

^^^ E A S Y decision. T R U M P.

pgroup2

OMG! ^^^^ THIS ^^^^

TheseTruths

Also:
I understand the concept of our side playing PDJT vs. RDS as a strategy. IMO, it is not effective, it makes me feel gaslighted, and it does nothing but sow discord and cause division. I don’t see a benefit from any of those things. I don’t see how it would stop election fraud, and I don’t see how it would get us out this situation without a physical fight.

kalbokalbs

Agree, nothing good comes of the Trump Vs DeSantis yammering.

Gail Combs

The good is it REVEALS THE BACKSTABBERS!!!

Anyone, like Kurt who jumps on the DeSantis train is NOT a real MAGA Deplorable.

TheseTruths

I think the backstabbers are revealing themselves without a conscious, deliberate subterfuge by our side, of playing PDJT vs. RDS. In other words, we don’t have to play pretend games for people to show their true colors.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

In some cases the “backstabber” might just be someone who is convinced Trump can’t win again.

That’s an easy enough thing to believe if one is too wrapped up in the YSM bubble.

TheseTruths

Possibly. I guess I have no patience with that, when you look at the number of votes he got in 2020 and when you look at the number of people he still draws to rallies for other politicians. The only way he couldn’t win would be if he were cheated out of it, again. So IMO, the “backstabbers” could be giving in to that reality, which is basically giving up on the country.

So we have people deliberately cheating to stop Trump and conservatives in general, and we have what amount to, IMO, useful idiots who see that handwriting on the wall and capitulate. We have a once-in-a-generation individual who has proved he knows how to fix the problems, and we’re going to let this opportunity pass us by? Completely unacceptable and inexcusable, in my view. Especially since giving in now guarantees that Dems take over the country from now on.

Gail Combs

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scott467

“I think he knows that the Shadow Government sanctioned Trump out of any presidency,”

_____________

Fortunately, it’s not their call. It’s ridiculous that these clowns haven’t been flushed down the sewer, traitors ALL.

Karl Denninger at Market-Ticker had a list of potential solutions in a recent article, and I saw this reply to it:

Denninger: “The Constitution sets the boundaries for both the Federal and State governments,without exception. Any political group that asserts a desire to change things on a 50-state basis,where same either “stretches” or outright violates the Constitution must change it. We shall not permit end-runs around this process and any attempt to do so, no matter what it is is comingled with, shall be turned away.”

Reply: “There is a problem with the last sentence, and it applies to all of the other points as well. We the People can assert or declare whatever we like. The organized crime cartel running our government doesn’t care.

To say that “we shall not permit” this or that has no meaning, without the force necessary to back it up.

That is the problem.

There is no Rule of Law now, there is only Rule of Man, and might makes right. We see it everyday. The FIB and other 3-letter agencies are not law enforcement now, they are guardians and enforcers and brown-shirts for the Uni-party government cartel.

They come down on anyone they don’t like, or who causes them trouble. Lest we forget, they are brazen enough to stage a heavily armed pre-dawn raid at the home of the former President of the United States. Their total focus is ‘domestic terrorists’, which is code for anyone who opposes their lawless tyranny. Rapists, murderers, pedophiles, drug dealers, human traffickers and every other kind of criminal are no threat to the cartel, and therefore low (or no) priority.

As for the military, did they not officially clock out on their oaths, the day 10% Joe was inaugurated? But they’re certainly not neutral, they’ll do whatever the Uni-party crime cartel orders them to do. And so will the large majority of police. Because who among them is going to stand up to their commanding officer? Some may resign in protest to the rampant government lawlessness, but not many. Not enough. And if large numbers do resign, they will immediately be replaced with thugs, illegal aliens, anyone who will not hesitate to do violence against the American population.

So if We the People say anything like “We shall not permit end-runs around this process and any attempt to do so, no matter what it is is comingled with, shall be turned away”, how are We the People going to back that up?

The criminals aren’t just going to give up and go away. Why should they? They’re not in any danger. Currently, We the People don’t have the power, literally, to “not permit” anything with regard to the organized crime cartel that has taken over our government.

Because there is no Rule of Law without Law *enforcement*, and with a criminal cartel running the government, will they enforce the Law against themselves?

As you frequently point out, only a minority is needed to successfully oppose. We can even stipulate to that, but it doesn’t make a difference, because there won’t be any such minority without organization and leadership, and anyone who would accept a position of leadership would be ‘suicided’ or disappeared in some offshore government gulag.

According to the corrupt judiciary, even the President of the United States (Trump) did not have ‘standing’ to object to the election theft. If the POTUS does not have “standing” in matters of Law, then who does? They do whatever they want, they don’t even try to hide it anymore. They want us to know. So if We the People are going to ‘permit’ or ‘not permit’ anything, it will only be *after* the Rule of Law is reestablished.

We’re a long way from there right now.

And standing between We the People and the reestablishment of the Rule of Law are the police and the military. And all three branches of government. It is true that We the People vastly outnumber them, but the number who are able and actually willing to resist is currently a much smaller subset of “We the People”. It is also true that the criminals and traitors have the best surveillance technology and training and weapons our money can buy them. And they get paid to oppress We the People, but We the People don’t get paid to resist.

It’s no secret that you don’t like Trump, but unless he is a globalist mole pretending at opposition, there has to be a reason why the Uni-Party crime cartel goes after him every single day, like hornets whose nest just got whacked with a stick.

If we scan the horizon from sea to shining sea, who else is willing or able to take them on, or has a track record of ever beating them? There is no one else who will achieve anywhere near the level of support Trump has, so unless something ‘happens’ to him (God forbid), Trump will be the nominee. If the nation doesn’t collapse before the 2024 election, Trump will certainly get more votes than any candidate in American history. I expect things will be so bad by then, that DJT will easily take all 50 states and the territories too, if only legitimate votes were counted.

The tyrannical regime knows this also, which is why it won’t matter even if every man and woman in the country votes for Trump, because it’s no longer the votes that count, but who counts the votes.

By the time of the election, Trump could have Woodstock sized crowds at every event, and Pedo Joe (or whichever other puppet gets installed in his place between now and then) won’t even campaign. And just like what happened in Arizona and Pennsylvania and Michigan (and other places) a couple weeks ago (and in 2020), the election results will be purposefully delayed so the criminal cartel can determine how many votes they need to manufacture (or make disappear) in order to win.

We have seen it twice in a row now. The government’s propaganda arm, establishment media, will provide cover for their election theft, just as they have done the past two weeks, just as they did in 2020. When (not if) that happens again, the third time, and no one can anymore credibly deny it, We the People will be at a crossroads.

That’s where we’re headed.

It would be good to have a plan, before we get there.”

TheseTruths

Well said. Have you made that reply to Denninger or Schlichter?

By the time of the election, Trump could have Woodstock sized crowds at every event, and Pedo Joe (or whichever other puppet gets installed in his place between now and then) won’t even campaign…[and the text that follows this]

Yes, and Trump, et al., have to know this. I think they have a much deeper knowledge of it than we do. Yet, at the moment, all is going as usual: declare candidacy, and campaign. There has to be more going on behind the scenes because these people are not stupid. They are not Charlie Brown, and they know that 2024 will be a repeat of 2020 if things don’t change. Something’s gotta give.

scott467

“Well said. Have you made that reply to Denninger or Schlichter?”

____________

I saw that reply already posted on Denninger’s website, and copied it here.

I haven’t read the Schlicter article. I knew if I did, it would take the next hour of my life to rip it apart, and I didn’t have time this evening 😁

scott467

“There has to be more going on behind the scenes because these people are not stupid. They are not Charlie Brown, and they know that 2024 will be a repeat of 2020 if things don’t change.”

_____________

I sure want to believe you’re right, but they (and we) knew all of that going into the recent midterm, and while the spotlight on fraud may have mitigated some portion of the wholesale cheating, it didn’t stop the steal in all the usual places.

There is no way they will ever give up the Executive Branch again.

They can’t.

Hillary thought they’d get the nooses if DJT won in 2016.

If he was to win in 2024 — which of course he will, by an overwhelming majority, to no avail — they would get the nooses for sure.

And they know it.

cthulhu

I respectfully disagree.

Mind you, planes may need to crash, people may need to hang themselves with prison bedsheets, someone’s trachea may need to be crushed by a barbell, someone’s exercise bands might need to blind an eye, people might need to OD, people might need to drown, etc.

But there is no absolute need for firearms.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I took “gun pointed” as a metaphor for force having to be threatened.

Valerie Curren

LOL don’t forget the suicide techniques from the Clinton Body Count lists 😉

pgroup2

“Have you made that reply to Denninger or Schlichter?”

Interesting that such a comment as scott’s could be allowed by the Great KD. I got banned for asking … ASKING .. what provision one of his proposals had for people on a fixed income.

He must have stopped drinking.

scott467

After one of Wolf’s comments a few weeks ago, that someone could briefly take over our accounts and post as if they were one of us, I was curious if anyone would recognize one of my posts or not.

I suspected some would, the same as I think I would recognize some other’s writing styles here. So when I read Wolf’s post above, it occurred to me that this was an opportunity to try it and see.

So I meant to post it as if it wasn’t clear that it was my own post, but apparently I messed that up.

Either that, or it was just too obvious that I wrote it 😂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

In essence it beat the same drum you always do, with some identical phrasing and rhetorical devices.

scott467

I wasn’t trying to disguise it, I just didn’t know if anyone paid enough attention to notice 😂

And I only beat that drum because it rings true. If it gets out of tune, I will gladly adjust it 😁

pgroup2

In a pinch, an upturned 5 gallon galvanized bucket makes a satisfactory snare drum.

scott467

“I got banned for asking … ASKING .. what provision one of his proposals had for people on a fixed income.”

____________

Well that’s not very nice!

I don’t think anyone replied to my comment at Karl’s, or even acknowledged it.

I’m not a regular poster over there, so maybe they didn’t know what to make of it.

I don’t read the comments very regularly at Market-Ticker, so I don’t really have a feel for what’s normal there.

JW in Germany

Notice Trump’s choice of words at his announcement. He said the work to take back America “starts now” not in 2024.

I still do not believe that all of the military is compromised—many more Generals and Admirals supported Trump than Hillary or Biden.

Somehow Trump is still standing after a 7 years and counting onslaught from the cabal—he shows no signs of quitting.

Seems to me that Trump either has powerful backup—or he is indeed one of the cabal playing controlled opposition. I believe the former.

Valerie Curren

Seems to me that Trump either has powerful backup—or he is indeed one of the cabal playing controlled opposition. I believe the former.” I Hope that you’re right 🙂

JW in Germany

Me too!

Valerie Curren

🙂 !!! 🙂

Tonawanda

There is a lot of the “we shall not permit” type of language on our side, pretty much daily. It is surprising to hear it from Denninger who usually does not engage in such performative nonsense.

We have zero leadership and zero organization, and any possible means to either has been anticipated brilliantly and thoroughly.

And the third element is the required consciousness. Such consciousness as does exist is probably found mostly among old-timers who do not have the physical capacity.

It is one thing to understand that a situation exists, quite another to know what to do about it.

Galvanizing events/circumstances can instill the required “we shall not permit” consciousness quickly, but who knows what that might be?

And that has been anticipated, too, whatever it may be. The Khmer Rouge are in control.

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TradeBait2

One of my pet peeves from PDT’s rallies. “We are not going to let that happen.”

After it’s already happening…

Tonawanda

I say this with genuine sadness: the corruption and degeneracy are so deep and broad, so thoroughly ingrained and protected, that the loss is permanent, way beyond winning elections, or changing the school board.

And one significant factor which cannot be changed, unless there are (highly unlikely) decades of intense remedial action, is the dramatic dumbing down of America, which can be seen and experienced every day, in every way, everywhere.

kalbokalbs

^^^ T H I S. ^^^

For those that scanned on by, please go back and READ. ^^^

JW in Germany

Excellent reply!

scott467

Danke!

Gingersmom2009

I’m avoiding Ticker more often than not anymore. He’s right about not voting our way out of this. But the seething Trump hate to the point of being blinded, coupled with the constant profanity for punctuation gets really old. And it’s the same dozen worshippers commenting every day. 🙄

I’m going to try to find the conversation though, thanks. 👍🏻

Barb Meier

Okay, I took one for the team and started reading. FTA: “Back in June, I wrote, “The Case For Donald Trump 2024” (I followed that up with “The Case Against Donald Trump,” just as this Thursday I will offer “The Case Against Ron DeSantis”). My goal was not to provide some panegyric to the then-potential candidate but to objectively assess his strengths and his weaknesses. We must be cold-eyed and ruthless in our candidate analysis – 2024 is too important to risk by following our hearts and embracing tired clichés.”

Barb Meier

Would it help to wait until someone decides to run for president before we spend time on a false premise. If someone hasn’t declared he is running for president, why should I spend head space evaluating him for the job? Schlicter does say toward the end of his piece “if he decides to run” but IMHO, he is making assertions about DeSantis that I don’t think will age well. Particularly if it becomes a Trump / DeSantis ticket.

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Barb Meier

Thanks for your thoughts on this Wolf! I want to focus my attention on the bad guys for a while. They always direct our attention away from themselves as they commit endless illegal acts and do great harm, all with no consequences to themselves.

For instance, is doxxing illegal? Has anyone been prosecuted for that? The only doxxing I know about has been done by leftists. I am old enough to remember when the online white pages had complete phone numbers for real people and not some smarmy money-making site wanting to sell you people’s criminal records.

Back when we had journalists, these public tidbits were easily obtained through public records. Did you know there’s no info I could find yet in open source that gave Katie Hobbs’ parents or siblings (if any) names? Has any journalist even asked? Trump’s family is all well-known and it seems to matter to the public. Aren’t such basic facts about someone running for Governor of a state also important for the public to know? Perhaps ending some tiny part of the double standards would be a good way to for me to spend time.

I am also old enough to remember when Google Maps identified the location of one of Al Gore’s homes. Does it still allow that kind of data in their Maps user comments? If so, is it only for those the leftists oppose?

kalbokalbs

100%.

Couple months ago, I quit giving thought to DeSantis running, until, IF, DeSantis decides to run.

Waste of time. Nothing to gain by spending time on a maybe, DeSantis run.

A DeSantis run, if it happens, is EASY to assess later.

TheseTruths

We must be cold-eyed and ruthless in our candidate analysis – 2024 is too important to risk by following our hearts and embracing tired clichés.

So we ignore what Trump did for the country in four years, and we ignore all the attacks against him (impeachments, lawsuits, threats, media bias, lies, etc.), and just put everyone on a level playing field? Hogwash!

pgroup2

Smash that false premise, TT. Just for grins & giggles, keep smashing it until it’s roadkill flat.

  :wpds_mrgreen: 

Gail Combs

Trump is the ONLY politician who has PROVEN HIS CHOPS.

TheseTruths

LOL!

Tonawanda

KS says “2024” as if it were real. Address that first, KS, and use your brilliance to analyze what difference it makes.

para59r

Your courage buoyed me so went ahead and listened as well.
He ends the column basically saying give DeSantis a gold watch, perhaps move on that Trump has powerful winds at his back so don’t discount him in the general.

Further he ascribes many DeSantis strong points to DeSantis that can easily be transferred to Trump in that DeSantis is a product of having grown in the Trump Sun, which includes a Republican Senate and House in Florida and all that.

Sad to see Town Hall only allows paid up folk to comment and thus edges out the little folk.

pgroup2

Oh silly one. Where on earth did you get the idea that the comments of peons had sufficient value to be included?

 😂 

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kalbokalbs

— but nobody’s going to like it.
OK, but was it worth the read?

Guessing I have a god idea what is in Schlichter article. Taking a pass. After last week, and others, the guy is full of shit. Follow the herd mentality.

Aubergine

I will await the promised upcoming “Case Against DeSantis” before deciding how “clear-eyed” Schlichter is.

We’ll see.

TheseTruths

It worked. He’s talking about immune system changes after getting vaxxed.

scott467

It would be interesting to know if WP blocked YT, or if YT blocked WP.

para59r

Youtube seems to work fine on our sister sites, but I don’t think we use the same version of wp. So perhaps the embeds addon Wolf mentions is the problem and it didn’t roll with a change youtube made and may just be too low on the pecking order of things to update for wp?

TheseTruths

According to this MSNBC article linked by Citizen Free Press:

Trump is obligated to give Truth Social a six-hour exclusive on any post – but is free to post “political messaging, political fundraising or get-out-the vote efforts” on any site, at any time, according to a May SEC filing.

scott467

Why would Trump agree to obligate himself, to a company in which he is a part owner, i.e., to give Truth Social (essentially himself) a six-hour ‘exclusive’?

And yet is ‘free’ to post “political messaging” — which could plausibly cover anything he would ever say — “on any site, at any time”?

Besides a ‘hook’ to get everybody to ask that question, and therefore, talk about Truth Social?

Aubergine

Trump is a pretty smart businessman, doncha think?

GA/FL

Donald Trump – 30 Second Ad – via Truth Social on Rumble:

https://rumble.com/v1w0wl4-trump-maga.html

Video added by Wolf:

Last edited 18 days ago by Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy
Aubergine

Compare this ad to the abysmal “God created Ron DeSantis” ad, and tell me who will be the nominee in 2024.

Ferrari vs. Pinto.

kalbokalbs

  :wpds_arrow:  Ferrari vs. Pinto.   :wpds_lol: 

Aubergine

I really like this emoji:

  :wpds_arrow: 

Lol!

pgroup2

I dunno about that. Pinto was pretty hot, back in the day.

Gail Combs

As in catching on fire?

Ford Pinto Fuel-Fed Fires – The Center for Auto Safety

Ford Pinto Fuel-Fed Fires. On June 9, 1978, Ford Motor Company agreed to recall 1.5 million Ford Pinto and 30,000 Mercury Bobcat sedan and hatchback models for fuel tank design defects which made the vehicles susceptible to fire in the event of a moderate-speed rear end collision. The action was the result of investigations…

pgroup2

Precisely. Glad somebody caught the snark.

Gail Combs

  :wpds_wink: 

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Heck those things were explosive!

(Remember Pam at the Eeyore Tree who would post all those videos and they were all “Explosive” (not her labeling)?

Gail Combs

Yup, they were.

At the time I had a Chevy Vega Hatchback that got rear-ended and pushed into the car in front DESPITE my having both feet on the brake. I could see the idiot coming over the hill. I was hemmed in at a stoplight.

I was really glad it was NOT a
Fix
Or
Repair
Daily

Found
On
Ramp
Dead.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Nor was it a Buick (Butt ugly imitation Cadillac kludge) or a Pontiac (Po’ old n*****r thinks its a Cadillac).

I know someone who bought one of those electric Chevys (Bolt? Volt? Can’t care enough to keep track), and he just loves anti-Ford humor, such as a burned out truck with the caption “I really hate the people who burn their trash by the side of the road.”

Valerie Curren

LOL!

Valerie Curren

My dad’s entire working career post-college/grad school was at Ford. At his (early) retirement party the MC claimed he bled blue. So on your thing above

Found
On
Ramp
Dead.

We always heard that one with Road for the “R” 🙂

GA/FL

Cool comparison!

Aubergine

Lol. That DeSantis ad bugged the crap outta me!

GA/FL

Trump’s ad was patriotic – not sanctimonious – not claiming to be God’s gift to the world – !

Aubergine

Exactly!

Barb Meier
Linda

Liars!

cthulhu

Defund the FDA.

BillBeakman

Tell that to all the hospitals that “under CDC guidance” (follow the science) refused patients Ivermectin then promptly administered Remdesivir, sedated them, put them on a ventilator & watched them die!
https://pandemictimeline.com/2021/09/in-memory-of-veronica-wolski/

kalbokalbs

One quack refused to script HCQ early on. Two quacks have refused to script me “I”.

In December, will ask for “I” in that 20 question session. I’ll post her reply to me.

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singingsoul1

My son a Dr at the Va told me they the “hospital did a experiment and Ivermectin did not work.” He also told me ” that science papers did say Ivermectin did not work.” He also mentioned the CDC.
I think doctors were also deceived by scientists who wrote papers doctors read and should be able to rely on. In VA guidlines come down from high up and doctors trusted the process.
Using Ivermectin in the hospital when people come in are already seriously compromised waiting for a week having covid.
I hope they all learned something . This was a fraught on many people also professionals.
Getting the jab is another failure. My son believed the jab that it would ward off covid. He had 4 jabs so did all other doctors. My son in Ann Arbor MI University hospital was forced to take the jab all 4 so did his wife. People need to be held responsible.

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BillBeakman

It’s all a sad commentary on the dissolution of critical thinking…

singingsoul1

Yes it is and what bothers me he has always been a critical thinker but that has changed.

Gail Combs

Tell your son that paper on Ivermectin that said it didn’t work?

It was FUNDED by CON ARTIST Sam Bankman-Fried.

The Covid-Cryptocurrency Connection: How FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried Bankrolled the Lockdowns 2 days ago

A series of revealing texts and tweets by Sam Bankman-Fried, the disgraced CEO of FTX, the once high-flying but now belly-up crypto exchange, … Earlier this year, the New York Times trumpeted a study that showed no benefit at all to the use of Ivermectin. It was supposed to be definitive. The study was funded by FTX.

para59r

That one should be enough to shut up all the quacks. Hopefully it is used in Congressional hearings. Done often enough against all they question should help get past the sequestering of information on this.

Last edited 18 days ago by para59r
para59r

How we should be handling this kind of information.

singingsoul1

Thank you for posting. I do not think he listens since covid he has distant himself more and more. If I get to speak to him one time in a year is a big deal.

Gail Combs

Sorry to hear that Singing.

Once vaccinated a person has a MAJOR emotional investment in NOT learning the truth.

singingsoul1

That it so true.

Happy go lucky

That’s too bad, Singing 🙏 This nightmare really tore families apart, by design.

singingsoul1

Has mine will never be the same. We avoid real topics and when we speak is just niceties on the phone. We make the best for our self my husband and I. We have our dog and cats we spoil.

Happy go lucky

There was also the study published in the Lancet early on, March 2020 🤔 that was spread far and wide, but eventually the authors asked it to be removed because of scientists pointed out the data was crap. I’ve lost my bookmark on it.

Aubergine

Yeah right. Tell me another one, FDA.

RDS

Here’s the actual language from http://www.fda.gov/media/150386/download, the EUA re-authorization letter from the FDA to Pfizer-BioNTech for the company’s COVID-19 “vaccine”, BNT162b2 (called “Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine”), dated 12 October 2022, Page 15 of 30:
“C. There is no adequate, approved, and available alternative (31) to Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine to prevent COVID-19.(32)”
The footnotes referenced in the letter describe, in “fancy footwork terms”, that the Moderna mRNA-1273 (SPIKEVAX) or the German version of BNT162b2 (COMIRNATY) can be used, due to “not sufficient quantities” of BNT162b2. Not a word about the Novavax “vaccine.”

Here’s the official FDA release regarding exactly what treatments can be used for COVID-19 : http://www.fda.gov/drugs/emergency-preparedness-drugs/coronavirus-covid-19-drugs
Dated 9 November 2022
“Coronavirus (COVID-19) | Drugs”
Not a single word about Ivermectin or HCQ, of course. At the top of the FDA list for “COVID-19 Therapeutics” is — REMDESIVIR.

pgroup2

As lawyers say: “Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence.”

C. There is no adequate, approved, and available alternative (31) to Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine to prevent COVID-19.(32)

The false premise assumes that the Pfizer ‘vaccine’ prevents covid. A false statement made as if it was an established fact but for which no evidence has ever been presented.

RDS

IMO, the entire d@mn COVID-19 “vaccine” narrative presented by “official government” and “Big Pharma” sources are a series of lies.

scott467

Ivermectin update.

Ordered from Ivermectin.com on Thursday morning. No prescription required, just go to their website, fill out the requested information, and place the order.

Website claims all Ivermectin sold through U.S. pharmacies comes from china, while their Ivermectin comes from India.

Website seemed a little hokey, but others here had used it so I wasn’t too concerned. You can get 50 x 12mg tablets for $105 or 100 x 12mg tablets (plus some kind of anti-germ spray) for $190.

Multiple shipping options. I chose 2-day shipping for $12, I think overnight shipping was $45.

There is no direct payment through the website, when you click the order button they send you an Invoice by email. I received the Invoice in a few minutes. Paid the Invoice. Received a shipping confirmation with Tracking number later that same afternoon.

Arrived as promised on Saturday.

My food-tester and I happen to be the same person. I took a dose on Saturday, and I’m still here. So apparently it’s fine 👍 😁

I had forgotten all about Ivermectin.com

Thanks very much to piper567 and barkerjim for the reminder and for posting the link 👍

cthulhu

I just broke out my dispensing syringes, ivermectin, shotglass, and 151 rum. Assembled syringe, poured a shot of rum, swished needle in rum, sucked a couple of cc’s into syringe, pushed out. Discarded rum.

Opened metal top to ivermectin, showing rubber cap. Punctured through cap with syringe and pulled desired amount of ivermectin in, pushed ivermectin out of syringe into shotglass.

Topped off with mineral water. Looked awful. Swigged that down and repeated.

Fiancee had scratchy throat, I had scratchy throat while Fiancee seemingly recovered, it came back for Fiancee worse and I was fine, then all day today I had it worse — glorking up annoying amounts of fluid. I had been lulled into not taking the ivermectin when the Fiancee got better, but I decided that it would be worth doing. Let’s see what tomorrow brings.

scott467

“I just broke out my dispensing syringes, ivermectin, shotglass, and 151 rum.”

____________

Rum 151? Sounds like one of those fufu drinks.

Where’s the 190 proof Everclear grain alcohol?

That’ll put hair on your chest and run your car (or the lawnmower) in a pinch 😂

cthulhu

Have you tried buying it lately? It’s unavailable in California.

scott467

No, I haven’t seen or looked for any since I was at the Delta House 😁

scott467

“Assembled syringe, poured a shot of rum, swished needle in rum, sucked a couple of cc’s into syringe, pushed out. Discarded rum.”

____________

When I was younger, that would have been an inexcusable party fowl… 😁

cthulhu

The only good thing about this rum was the proof.

scott467

We used to do flaming shots of 151, without blowing the flame out.

Burned my nose real good one time 😁

Lucky we didn’t burn our esophaguses (esophagi?), all the way down to the gut 😂

scott467

Just looked it up, esophagi was right… they’re both correct… how often does someone need to pull either of those out of the tool box 😂🤣😂

cthulhu

We used to do layered drinks in a shotglass, with Bacardi 151 on top, clear 100 proof peppermint schnapps in the middle, and 60 proof green creme de menthe on the bottom — “the Green Death”. Freeze everything before you pour and it’s really easy to make.

scott467

Party FOUL.

Man… what’s happenin’ to me?!?

😂

cthulhu

Flaming rum will do that to you.

Aubergine

It’s the Ivermectin, Scott. Don’t you read the liberal press? They give it to chickens you know. Do you have feathers yet?

Valerie Curren

cute 🙂

Aubergine

🙂

pgroup2

Well, he is now crowing at dawn. So something happened.  😉 

Aubergine

LOL! BWAHAHA!

scott467

Not yet!

If Ivermectin causes you to misspell certain words having to do with checkens, that’s seems to be a highly specific and unusual symptom… not sure I’m buyin’ it…

scott467

Thank you for the routine, I saved it for future reference, if/when I need to break the seal on my liquid vitamin I.

I don’t have any alcohol, except maybe rubbing alcohol, so I probably would have done something like I’ve seen in the movies, and use a match flame to sterilize the syringe 😉

If I thought to sterilize it at all, which I might not have.

Though it should be sterilized already. I have a box of syringes individually sealed in plastic wrappers, purchased over a year ago with the liquid Iver. Probably always a good idea to sterilize, but since these are likely from chyna, who knows what kind of dreck they’re covered in.

If it was something I had to use often, I’d probably get one of those little Kikkoman no-drip restaurant-style soy-sauce bottles for it. Or just poke a couple holes in the foil with a fork, and use it like a salt shaker.

I hope you feel better tomorrow. I think you will. This stuff works 👍

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Gail Combs

The syringes in plastic wrappers are sterile. We use them all the time.
Just use the 90% isopropanol to wipe the top of the bottle of I. (And swab the injection site 🤓 .) DO NOT inject BTW. My goats will tell you the injected HURTS like a mother! I have never seen such aerobatics! That’s why I do down the throat now.

scott467

“(And swab the injection site 🤓 .) DO NOT inject BTW.”

________

Don’t worry, I don’t particularly like needles 😁

Gail Combs

I hate them and faint at the sight so Hubby gets to do the deed while I hold the animal still.  🙄 

para59r

Having uncultivated taste buds, I’ve found the apple flavored syringe based Ivermectin to be just fine as is, though it was followed with a chaser of water.

Valerie Curren

Is that the “horse de-wormer” prep?

para59r

Yes right out of the tube. That said, I chase everything with water 😁

Valerie Curren

How does it compare pricewise to “human” IVM? I looked for the animal prep stuff before & here in Michigan it was locked away w/ huge warning signs about the dangers to humans–spit!

para59r

From Amazon. Also note that with my poor math skills, (not joking) you can likely pull about three dosings out of one tube maybe more. Someone should do the real math on it, I just ball parked. The one time I did it, I used near double the recommendation by being rushed from a call you don’t dare ignore (DW) or it’s off with the head. 😂 Also never went back to finish the tube in a timely manner so didn’t bother to trust it after that. I still have some in fresh tubes. Expiration date is past 1 yr, mine from first batch says March of 2023, and I bought it in 2020.

From Amazon: (these prices seem to have gone done from recent highs)
Duramectin Ivermectin Paste 1.87% Horse Wormer (2 Tubes)
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SAFETY ALERT: Animal products containing ivermectin SHOULD NOT be used in people. These products can cause serious health effects, including death. Ivermectin has not been shown to be a safe or effective way to prevent or treat COVID-19. If you are worried about COVID-19, please talk to your doctor. Learn more from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration

Finds it funny that people rated the flavor high! 😁

Should also add, getting it through Amazon last I did, took a little over a month. Compare that in you calculus. Seems the pill might be the smarter bet but it comes with practically no additional information such as dosage or expiration dates unlike the tube from Amazon or elsewhere which have that information.

Additionally the pill from Ivermectin.com place is Iverotal 12mg. Taj Pharmaceuticals LTD. That is about all the additional info you get. But pretty sure your good with this product as you would be with the tube.

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Valerie Curren

Thanks for this great info!

I think the Ivermectin.com site has a dosage schedule based on one’s weight.

What I want to find, but haven’t yet, is what possible dosage schedule for IVM could work for type II diabetes. Someone here, likely Gail or Aubergine, mentioned that IVM Could work for that & I’ve wanted to explore that possibility too 🙂

Gail Combs

Get OFF the sugar and bread and potatoes ….

Leafy greens and meats (and good fats) PERIOD. I have low blood sugar which will turn into Type II if you do not control it.
Berries are OK as well as nuts but watch out for the high fructose fruits

The cure for type 2 diabetes is known, but few are aware

……To get smart on insulin resistance — the cause of both type 2 diabetes and obesity — read Dr. Jason Fung’s book, The Obesity Code: Unlocking the Secrets of Weight Loss, or watch his free lecture on YouTube….

He outlines the diet and also suggests

Trick (most important): Go for longer periods of time without eating (yesyesfasting). Consume water only for days or weeks at a time. Your fat will literally dissolve away, and with it your type 2 diabetes and other ailments. The definitive books here are Dr. Joel Fuhrman’s, Fasting and Eating for Health: A Medical Doctor’s Program for Conquering Diseaseand Dr. Jason Fung’s Complete Guide to FastingI highly recommend them both;

I am not a fan of fasting (except between dinner and breakfast 🤓 )

Here is a ‘Mainstream’ article on fasting
https://www.livestrong.com/article/434136-when-fasting-does-your-body-eat-fat-or-muscle-first/

Her is a much better explanation and how to control WHAT the body targets. (Discusses diabetes too.)

https://www.dietdoctor.com/fasting-muscle-mass
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Valerie Curren

Wow Gail. Thanks so much for this major digging that I’ll need to review in extreme detail. You, as always, Rock!!! Blessings 🙂

Gail Combs

Hope it helps. I was very lucky and caught the low blood sugar at age 19 DESPITE the doctor. I have tried to control my sugar intact ever since…
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Luckily the super dark chocolate can be found WITHOUT very much sugar.

No sugar added:
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14 gr carbs
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Trader Joe has a bar that each sq is 5 gr of carb.

Valerie Curren

Thanks again. Hubby has official hypoglycemia & special needs son has it unofficially (never gone through the medical diagnosis process), as he has the exact same progression of issues. They both do poorly if they eat too many carbs w/out sufficient fat &/or protein. Hubby keeps peanuts in his car to back up any meals he has & son will sometimes take a huge spoonful of peanut butter to stop the low blood sugar cascade. If they’re careful about it they rarely have any big problems any more, thankfully.

Gail Combs

I have a spoon and a small cup of peanut butter (no salt or sugar) sitting by my key board.  😆 

We were told decades ago to eat 5 small meals to stop the low blood sugar cascade and sugar cravings.

Sugar is VERY addictive for us too!!

Valerie Curren

I believe it. Hubby has a Massive sweet tooth, but prefers something like snickers, reeses, or peanut M & M’s to keep things in “balance” LOL

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

PB is my life.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

#1 Hypoglycemic girl here for decades.

No sugar, fried foods or white flour. Sugar substitures are bad too. Maltodextrin is horrible. Those both cause me episodes.

READ EVERY LABEL. They put sugar in EVERYTHING. Learn all the synonyms.

High Protein, low low carbs, good fats, always have nuts handy. After years of practice, my desert is fruit. Berries are best, green grapes. My drinks are water and black covfefe.

The more you eat sugar and carbs, the more your body craves them. Once you break the cycle w/out, 3-4 days, your body adjusts.

Eat lots of eggs, chicken, fish, veggies, nuts. Low glycemic foods. No more packaged/prepared foods. Buy basic ingredients and fix your own. It’s the only way.

Valerie Curren

Interestingly that sounds like sound advice for “diabetics” too! Thx 🙂

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

It is, the diet is the same. The trick is to keep your blood sugar levels stable by eating several small meals.

Valerie Curren

Still got A Lot of work to do for hubby & me 🙂

TheseTruths

I have read some of his materials online. Regarding fasting, he says to not eat between meals. Every time you eat, your body has to produce insulin, which is something you don’t want if you’re insulin-resistant.

pgroup2

Removes worms and bots? Does Elon know about this?

scott467

“Seems the pill might be the smarter bet but it comes with practically no additional information such as dosage or expiration dates unlike the tube from Amazon or elsewhere which have that information.”

_____________

My box actually came with an instruction sheet, with dosage for various types of illnesses (not Covid though).

Also dosage based on height, in the event of “mass chemotherapy” where no scales were available.

.

“Additionally the pill from Ivermectin.com place is Iverotal 12mg. Taj Pharmaceuticals LTD. That is about all the additional info you get.”

_____________

It cuts very easily, I was surprised. I bought a pill cutter, but even using a regular steak knife, it cut into quarters without much pressure required, and didn’t disintegrate.

No identification marks on the pill itself at all, which seemed unusual, but that may have been true of my prescription batch too. I don’t have any of those left to check.

Tonawanda

Does your container state what a “dose” is? How many mg/pound?

barkerjim

From Ivermectin.com, 0.2mg/Kg. 1Kg=2.204623 pounds

para59r

Meanwhile Ivermectin out of the tube is very forgiving of over dosing, to the point of being unnoticed should you up the dose by a quarter more or less and should you notice, you can just ride the effects off.

Tonawanda

I get mixed up. So a 12 mg. tablet, which is what they sell, is for what weight? And how do you break up a tablet to correspond to the right weight? That is why I was curious about what the container said.

Gail Combs

Unless you are being frugal you don’t break the tablet.
Overdosing with a medication with a high LD-50 is the better way to go.

12 mg = 132 pounds or a reasonable sized woman.

1 +1/2 tabs = 200 lbs (so you might cut a tablet in 1/2)
Here is the chart again:
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Tonawanda

TY!

kalbokalbs

Can’t recall the source. THIS chart posted here, QTree numerous times.

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para59r

Says July 2020, but I believe they’d up the dosage recommended and or tolerated since then at least once. Chart is good enough!

kalbokalbs

Dunno. Not a quack, medically trained, scientist, chemist, mathematician… Jus a Slow Guy.

Charts appears to be inline with today’s FLCCC protocol.

Also inline with “I” sent to me, by a FLCCC quack, September 2021.

100%, dosage recommendations may vary between quacks.

Tonawanda

With the paste, I take as much as the horse would take, if the horse weighed the same as me.

From the above, if I am reading this correctly, one tablet of 12 mg (which is what they come in at I.com) is for a person 132 pounds. And two tablets is for someone 264 pounds?

What if you need less than one tablet?

barkerjim

Pill cutter would work but have read that just getting close is generally ok. Overdose is supposed to be about 10 times the recommended amount.

Gail Combs

Ivermectin, a potential anticancer drug derived from an antiparasitic drug

…. It has been widely used in humans for many years, and its various pharmacological properties, including long- and short-term toxicological effects and drug metabolism characteristics are very clear. In healthy volunteers, the dose was increased to 2 mg/Kg, and no serious adverse reactions were found, while tests in animals such as mice, rats, and rabbits found that the median lethal dose (LD50) of IVM was 10-50 mg/Kg [112] In addition, IVM has also been proven to show good permeability in tumor tissues [50]. Unfortunately, there have been no reports of clinical trials of IVM as an anticancer drug. There are still some problems that need to be studied and resolved before IVM is used in the clinic…..

scott467

“Unfortunately, there have been no reports of clinical trials of IVM as an anticancer drug.”

______________

Because why would you ever TEST something that has a chance of curing CANCER?

If it worked, it could put the entire medical industry out of business.

So corrupt it makes me want to vomit.

.

“There are still some problems that need to be studied and resolved before IVM is used in the clinic…..”

_____________

Oh yeah?

How many DECADES are needed to ‘study’ those ‘problems’ before they can be ‘resolved’?

You only needed an ’emergency use’ authorization and a couple weeks to start injecting the population of the WHOLE WORLD with untested rat poison, you #&@*^**&^T@#*&$*^ *%^.

Those “problems” begin with “Big” and end with “rma”, and has a “Pha” in the middle.

Gail Combs

You have such a way with words Scott. I stand in awe.
 🤓 

scott467

Sometimes I get a little carried away 😁

kalbokalbs

As BarkerJim suggest, pill cutter ought to work.

Via IndiaMart, picked up “I” 3, 6 and 12. Easy enough tailoring to weight.

Tonawanda

TY!

scott467

“What if you need less than one tablet?”

_________

I bought a $5 pill cutter, but a steak knife works just as well to cut in half, or cut halves into quarters, as necessary 👍

para59r

Adding a steak knife to the medicine cabinet also adds an extra level of security for the home, that wouldn’t have been available before especially if it has some chopping power like mine. 😁

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scott467

Exactly! 👍😁

Happy go lucky

Those are excellent knives. I cut off the tip of my thumb with the bread knife 😢

pgroup2

If that’s what it takes for a knife to get an excellent rating, I’ll settle for a fair knife.  😆 

Valerie Curren

Yikes!!!!

Gail Combs

Good for peeling onions too.

pgroup2

Or skinning RINOs.

[j/k]

Tonawanda

In my experience, cutting pills is wasteful and inexact, but maybe I am not doing it right.,

scott467

With a steak knife, I just place the pill on a flat surface (dresser, counter top, etc.) and place the blade across the pill, where it looks like the halfway point.

Easier to judge if you’re looking down from above, like on a counter top, than on a dresser, which may be chest high.

Once it’s carefully lined up, then keep your eye on pill, and in one smooth, swift motion, raise that knife straight up over and behind your head, and bring it straight back down onto the pill, like you’re swinging a samurai sword.

BAM!

I use one hand, because I’m pretty good, and because the knife handle is kinda small for two hands anyway.

Or, you could do it the boring way. Once the knife is lined up across the pill, just gently press down on the top side of the blade, with the thumb of your other hand.

I do not recommend a double-sided blade for this particular procedure.

With these pills, it only takes a slight amount of pressure on the top side of the blade, and it should split right in two.

Some pills crumble or disintegrate easily when you cut them, but the Ivermectin pill that I cut the other night was a surprisingly clean cut.

Otherwise, one of these cheapie pill cutters should work okay. Fortunately the dose doesn’t need to be very exact with vitamin I anyway 👍

ahttps://www.amazon.com/s?k=pill+cutter

Tonawanda

TY! It was the crumbling pills I had in mind because of experience.

But now that I have thought about it, the tablets you recommended are somewhat high for my wife (one) and somewhat high for me (two) but close enough where they will work as is.

My wife hates the paste and will be happy!

scott467

You’re welcome!

I have used the scissors type pill cutter before too, and it also worked well.

Like this one:

[not sure why the link won’t work, here’s a picture]

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Last edited 17 days ago by scott467
Valerie Curren

I have a pill cutter hinged box w/ a razor blade in the lid & a V-shaped slanted base to use gravity to keep the pill in the slot. It’s great on round tablets but I don’t know how well it would work on the oblong ones…

Gingersmom2009

The best dosing charts – REALLY simple and clear – are at FLCCC. They have charts for single dose (prophylaxis), double and triple. All for download.

Valerie Curren

Thx!

RDS

Yours Truly hopes you fell much better very soon.
The “dispensing regimen” around here is 4mg of “vitamin I” on Saturday / Tuesday / Wednesday, making a total of 12mg per week at the dose appropriate for one’s weight. This is being supervised by an FLCCC doctor.

Last edited 18 days ago by RDS
kalbokalbs

^^^ Nice strategy, MeThinks.

Have been taking “I” once per week.

  • “I” in our system effective for ~seven days. Prolly the wrong words.
  • Guessing a bow wave of “I” in our system. Recedes over the seven days.

Spreading “I” full dosage over three days, in my simple mind smooths, “I” in our system. Guessing more effective, day-to-day.

Gonna adopt this. Thanks.

kalbokalbs

^^^ Guessing more effective, day-to-day, in a “preventive” mode.

For an emerging issue, full dosage AND I’d follow FLCCC protocol.

RDS

Yours Truly thinks that the dosing regimen likely depends on the individual person’s body. For some people, “spacing out” the weekly dose (for prophylactic use) makes it easier for the body to “process” the “vitamin I.”

kalbokalbs

Got it.

BB

I would not recommend doing this because many drugs require a particular blood level to be effective. Giving smaller doses means that the effective level will never be reached. At best you are wasting your money and at worst could be allowing the virus to build up resistance so that it doesn’t work for you when needed.

kalbokalbs

Appreciate the information.!

RDS

On the other hand, one is being monitored by an FLCCC doctor regarding when and how much “vitamin I” one takes during the week. This was discussed with the doctor based on certain factors pertinent to the patient.

barkerjim

I just ordered a few days ago, picked the cheap ($6) delivery, and had the order in two days anyway,

Valerie Curren

Thanks for the info. This is on our to-do list soon (when income is coming in again) 🙂

kalbokalbs

Hope ya get it, before ya need it! <<< When it’s to late to get.

Perhaps…

 🎀  Family Christmas gift. Put it in the medicine cabinet until, IF, needed.  🎀