Health Friday Open Thread 9.20.2024: Double-Expose’ Edition

The above is a vintage image of Dr. Edward Jenner administering the first smallpox vaccination (inoculation) to James Phipps, 14 May 1796. Courtesy of www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/.

Today’s post, as it relates to the disaster of COVID-19 and the COVID-19 “vaccines”, is dedicated by Yours Truly in memory of her cousin Bill, who died “suddenly and unexpectedly” in September 2023. However, the discussion is not limited to what is presented here: it is an Open Thread.

There are two separate, although connected (Big Pharma), parts to today’s offering. Each part is of itself an expose’. This post is a long one, but important. Please, take a cup of coffee or tea; or, if it’s an appropriate time of the day, perhaps a “wee dram” of something like chilled D.O.M. Benedictine with a twist of lemon peel, and settle in for reading.

Readers already know the caveats regarding civil discussion on this board; of the alternate sites in case the main board is not accessible (here and here); and, that what Yours Truly presents on Health Friday is not medical advice, but opinions and/or hypotheses from ongoing research on COVID-19, Big Pharma, and other health topics.

Quick, down-and-dirty summary” of today’s post:

One: Pfizer-BioNTech has begun a new enterprise, PfrizerForAllTM, which apparently seeks to completely circumvent / marginalize, in-person consumer contact with pharmacies; to “funnel” in-person consumer contact with healthcare practitioners to “Pfizer-affiliated” professionals; and, to “redirect” the dissemination of information about the COVID-19 “vaccines” to that provided by Pfizer-BioNTech.

Two: That the FDA approval of the very dangerous and deadly Smallpox “vaccine”, ACAM2000, for use also as a “prevention” for Mpox, is the result of a complex mixture of Big Pharma influence + FDA review of the Biologics License Applicaion for this use of ACAM2000 that is, in Yours Truly’s opinion, “a foregone conclusion despite serious reservations”, to say the least + Gain-of-Function experiments on the Mpox virus. There is also a potential tie-in to “an expanded biodefense role.”

Yours Truly has tried to avoid making today’s post read like a scientific paper; however, there is a lot of information that is relevant to each Expose’. Note: Mpox is now the “official” name for monkeypox.

Expose’ One: It appears that Pfizer-BioNTech is creating new ways to increase the company’s consumer operations (and, therefore, potential profit lines.) Pfizer-BioNTech has just launched PfizerForAllTM — a direct sell-to-consumer business that will provide online access to healthcare providers (online [virtual], or affiliated healthcare providers encounters [for example, to get a COVID-19 “vaccination”]); plus, “delivered to your door” prescription drugs and “easier access” to other company products, such as their COVID-19 “test kits.”

The story begins here: https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/pfizers-vaccine-business-is-so-pfucked, 7 September 2024. From the blog article, below:

Pfizer-BioNTech filed a Trademark Application in May 2024 for this new PfizerForAllTM program https://endpts.com/pfizer-submits-trademark-application-that-suggests-it-could-be-launching-a-direct-to-patient-program/, 13 May 2024, by Nicole De Feudis. (One must be a subscriber in order to read the entire article.) It appears that the application was approved: the company officially launched the program on 27 August 2024 (from the article on www.businesswire.com/, Pfizer Launches PfizerForAllTM, a Digital Platform that Helps Simplify Access to Healthcare (www.pfizerforall.com/.) From the article:

In other words, in Yours Truly’s opinion, Pfizer-BioNTech, not happy with the company’s portfolio loss due to falling consumer acceptance of the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines” offered, and due to the failure of the company’s clinical trial of its “combo” modRNA COVID-19 “vaccine” + influenza “vaccine”, a corporate decision was made to find a way to go straight to the consumer and make it “so easy” to get access to the “vaccines”, plus other Pfizer products. Translation: banish “vaccine” hesitancy / “vaccine” refusal, by doing what may be called “straight to the consumer medical psy-op.” Again, from the Latypova article:

Dr. Peter McCullough’s take on the Pfizer-BioNTech move is here: https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/pfizer-launches-pfizerforall, 14 September 2024. Below is a portion of his article:

The lawsuit that Pfizer-BioNTech settled in 2009 was over the use of the company’s drug, Bextra, in “off-label” situations. The scope of the settlement is described here: www.justice.gov/, “Justice Department Announces Largest Health Care Fraud Settlement in Its History”, 1 November 2023. A portion of the announcement is below:

This lawsuit was the starting point for FDA changes to its “regulations” regarding the use of prescription drugs in “off-label” situations. The latest FDA changes are summarized here: www.sidley.com/en/insights/newsupdates/2023/11/fda-s-latest-off-label-guidance, 1 November 2023. It appears, in a nutshell, that drug manufacturers can be held responsible (liable) for “off-label” use of their products, even if they already comply with the “new” FDA “regulations.” (Think of this in light of the use of, for example, Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine to prevent or to treat COVID-19 — these uses, arguably, are “off-label” for these drugs.)

By the way, PfizerForAllTM is working with UpScript Health and Alto Pharmacy regarding access to healthcare services and filling prescriptions. Guess what? UpScript Health lists Pfizer as a “partner” on the company’s “About” page of their website: www.upscripthealth.com/about/. And, there’s more — Alto Pharmacy, the online prescription drug company, has a couple of interesting members on their Board of Advisors: Alex Azar (HHS head under then-President Trump); and, Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel (he who helped to write the “ObamaCare” bill; he who advocated for people to take their own lives at age 75 “to make room for the younger generation”, and more): www.alto.com/our-company. Dr. Emanuel is also involved with the Center for American Progress (Soros-connected: www.americanprogress.org/c3-our-supporters/); The Aspen Institute; and, he is Co-Director of the Healthcare Transformation Institute (HTI) at the University of Pennsylvania. Below is the Mission statement of HTI (https://hti.upenn.edu/mission/):

Note 1: the “objective” to transform the behavior of physicians and other healthcare providers. (Italics, mine.) Note 2: the “imagifashion” hyperlink, apparently, after getting past the “fake Latin language” on the main page, takes one to a clothing/accessories company in California: https://nilah.la-studioweb.com/contact-us/. (??)

Regarding Alto Pharmacy, please see here: www.fiercehealthcare.com/health-tech/track-soon-hit-1b-revenue-alto-pharmacy-tapped-amazon-exec-its-next-phase-growth, 17 August 2022. Here’s what one needs to know about the “mission” of Jamie Karraker and Matt Gemache-Asselin, the company’s co-founders:

This statement really frosts Yours Truly. My late father was a Registered Pharmacist for 57 years, who: kept his pharmacy very clean and neat (one was part of the crew that swept the floors and cleaned the display shelves starting when she was 10 years old); made it a point to know about all of his patients and to TALK with with then they came to have prescriptions filled or refilled; worked out deals with his suppliers to get extra samples of OTC products to give to his patients who had lost their steel mill jobs when the mills left Pittsburgh in the late 1970s-early 1980s, and, who paid for their prescriptions with his own money at times, etc., — finds the language, “…brick-and-mortar terrible experience…” in the above statement not only to be personally insulting to the memory of her father: but, also, degrading to those “brick-and-mortar” pharmacists who do their job to keep their stores clean and organized.

Expose’ Two: This regards the FDA just “approving” the “expanded use” of the dangerous and deadly Smallpox “vaccine”, ACAM2000, for the “prevention” of Monkeypox (now called “Mpox.”) The FDA issued this “approval” on 29 August 2024. The trail on this begins here: https://mole.substack.com/p/acam2000-package-insert-warning-death, 14 September 2024.

To gain more understanding of Smallpox and inoculation / vaccination against Smallpox, please see: www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/objects-and-stories/medicine/smallpox-and-story-vaccination. Both Smallpox (variola) and Mpox (mpox virus) are members of the genus Orthopoxvirus. Whereas, a disease condition that would equate to Smallpox goes at least as far back as to China around 3000BC, Mpox was first discovered in 1958 (all, per Wikipedia search.) Dr. Edward Jenner, an English physician, noticed that milkmaids were immune from Smallpox infection; he deduced that the Cowpox infections that they sustained had made them immune to the other type of infection. Dr. Jenner administered the first “inoculation” of Cowpox virus (to prevent Smallpox) to a child, James Phipps, on 14 May 1796. Another source of information is here: wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/yellowbook/2024/infections-diseases/smallpox-and-other-orthopoxvirus-associated-infections. Further details are found here, in the article, Edward Jenner and the history of smallpox and vaccination, January 2005. A screenshot of a portion of this article is below:

About ACAM2000: it is manufactured by Emergent BioSolutions, headquartered in Gaithersburg, MD. The FDA approved ACAM2000 for use for the prevention of Smallpox in August, 2007. It contains vaccinia, a live virus ingredient used in modern Smallpox vaccines. The vaccinia used in ACAM2000 is a replicating version. The vaccine is cultured in a mixture of African Green Monkey kidney cells (sound familiar? — as in, perhaps, SV40 African Green Monkey cancer promoter gene splice that was found in the Pfizer-BioNTech modRNA COVID-19 “vaccine” by Dr. Kevin McKernan?). ACAM2000 was originally only intended for use to prevent Smallpox — until its use was “suddenly expanded” on 29 August 2024 by the FDA to include prevention of Mpox (more on that later in the post.) Since then, articles such as this one have appeared (https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/fda-acam2000-mpox-vaccine-warning-death-unvaccinated/, 17 September 2024, by Suzanne Burdick, Ph.D.; and, social media has been posting items like this one: https://x.com/toastontheside/status/1835921932841062412. This tweet references the FDA-issued handout for patients and/or caregivers regarding ACAM2000. The FDA handout is found here: www.fda.gov/media/75800/download. FDA handout documents for patients and/or caregivers are likely to have, in Yours Truly’s opinion, “sanitized” information and “pablum-like” assurances regarding the “safety and efficacy” of the drug or injectable. The FDA handout for ACAM2000, however, is different: when one reads the handout, one gets a distinct impression that this “vaccine” is highly dangerous. Below is a screenshot portion of the FDA patient/caregiver handout for ACAM2000:

Note that there is NO MENTION of the other FDA-approved Mpox vaccine, JYNNEOS, which is arguably “safer” for the patient (see further down in the presentation regarding JYNNEOS.)

The Fact Sheet for Healthcare Providers for ACAM2000 is here: www.fda.gov/media/75792/download. The document gives a much more comprehensive picture of the dangers of this “vaccine.” Yours Truly will highlight a few of the items in this document which show how dangerous and deadly this vaccine is, beginning with two images from page 1 of the Fact Sheet: the Black Box Warning; and, the Warnings and Precautions:

Remember, this dangerous and deadly “vaccine” is now approved for persons “at risk for Mpox”, in addition to persons at risk for Smallpox (this disease was eradicated in 1980.)

And, from Section 6 Adverse Reactions portion of the Fact Sheet for ACAM2000:

Continuing with Section 11 Description from the Fact Sheet for ACAM2000:

And, from Section 17 Patient Counseling Information of the Fact Sheet for ACAM2000, two portions:

Note several items from the above screenshots: One, that the “vaccine” must be given to the recipient via 15 separate jabs with a bifurcated needle; Two, there are MULTIPLE adverse reactions potential for persons taking this “vaccine”; Three, that persons who contract a Smallpox infection from a person “vaccinated” with ACAM2000 can die of the infection they contract; Four, that the ACAM2000-“vaccinated” person must stay away from pregnant women, household members, persons with eczema, etc., for a period of time after “vaccination”; among many other issues.

Yours Truly will again recall to the reader’s mind that ACAM2000 is now FDA-approved for PREVENTIVE USE among persons who are at risk for Mpox. From what Yours Truly has read about it, Mpox is, for all intents and purposes, likely to be a LESS-DANGEROUS form of Orthopoxvirus, compared to another form of the same Genus, variola (Smallpox virus.) [HOWEVER, see the presentation answering Question Two, further below in the post.] There is a vaccine that was previously FDA-APPROVED for the prevention of Mpox — JYNNEOS, manufactured by Bavarian-Nordic. This vaccine also uses the vaccinia virus as the foundation; but, JYNNEOS is cultured in a mixture of chicken embryo cells; and, although it also has live vaccinia, it is a NON-replicating version. JYNNEOS was also originally FDA-approved for the prevention of Smallpox. In Yours Truly’s opinion, even though JYNNEOS does indeed have potential for serious adverse reactions (for example, cardiac issues), this vaccine appears to be much less dangerous and deadly compared to ACAM2000. The FDA Fact Sheet for Healthcare Providers for JYNNEOS is here: www.fda.gov/131078/download.

Two questions arise immediately: First, what is about ACAM2000 that makes it so dangerous?; and, Second, why did the FDA suddenly approve the use of ACAM2000 for the prevention of Mpox in August 2024?

As to the first question: ACAM2000 is the “descendant Smallpox vaccine” from the older Dryvax Smallpox vaccine, which was manufactured by Wyeth. ACAM2000 replaced Dryvax in August 2007, after FDA approval. The Package Insert (archived version) for Dryvax is here: https://biotech.law.lsu.edu/blaw/bt/smallpox/dryvax_label.htm. Below are two screenshots from the Package Insert for Dryvax:

Note that the inoculation process for Dryvax consisted of 2 or 3 punctures for the initial (primary) vaccination; and that 15 punctures were used for revaccination. However, ACAM2000 requires 15 punctures for the initial vaccination. Why 15 punctures for the initial vaccination? It would appear, in Yours Truly’s opinion, that requiring 15 punctures for the initial vaccination with ACAM2000 exposes the patient to more of the ingredients of the vaccine (think the Moderna COVID-19 modRNA “vaccines” all having more than 3 times the “mcg payload” of lab-enhanced SARS-CoV-2 spike protein PER INJECTION, as compared to the “mcg payload” of the Pfizer-BioNTech modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines.” [Which is NOT to say that the Pfizer-BioNTech modRNA “vaccines” are somehow “safer” than those of Moderna. THEY ARE NOT.])

Yours Truly turns to section 8.1 of the FDA Fact Sheet for Healthcare Providers for ACAM2000 (link above.) This “vaccine” is particularly dangerous to pregnant women, to women who wish to become pregnant, and to a fetus carried by a pregnant woman (whether or not she is “vaccinated” with ACAM2000, since persons “vaccinated” with this product will “shed” ingredients [from the forming / formed pustule, or the scab from the pustule, etc.], onto other persons who come into contact with the “vaccinated” person.) Below is section 8.1:

It would also appear that there is inherent danger due to the fact that ACAM2000 uses a live, replicating vaccinia (another Orthopoxvirus that is “weaker” than variola [the Smallpox virus], and which is used to make modern-day Smallpox / Mpox vaccines), as compared to the live, NON-replicating vaccinia that is used the JYNNEOS Smallpox / Mpox vaccine. Once inoculated (vaccinated) with ACAM2000, the vaccinia produces a kind of “mini-infection” in the patient, affecting the area around the inoculation site, along with the lymph nodes in the same area. Vaccinia may also appear in the blood of the patient. There is also the issue of “self-inoculation” by the ACAM2000-“vaccinated” patient (from scratching or “picking at” the scab that forms after the “mini-infection” pustule forms on the skin, and also when this pustule begins to clear); and for other reasons — the FDA Fact Sheet section 17 Patient Counseling Information for ACAM2000 discusses this. In addition, there is the varying amount of vaccinia concentration that is produced in the patient after ACAM2000 inoculation; see below from section 11 Description of the FDA Fact Sheet for Healthcare Providers:

In other words, there are many areas about the ingredients and mechanisms of ACAM2000 that raise the risk of complications, including death, for the patient who takes this “vaccine”, for pregnant women and their fetuses, for women who wish to become pregnant, for persons who are immunocompromised, and for persons who are NOT “vaccinated” with ACAM2000, during the multiple “danger zone” weeks after ACAM2000 inoculation.

Turning to the second question, concerning the FDA approval in August 2024 for ACAM2000 to be used as an Mpox “vaccine”: this situation is complex. It involves Big Pharma, the WHO, and, what to Yours Truly “smells like” Gain-of-Function research, among other items.

Yours Truly will begin with Emergent BioSolutions, the company that produces ACAM2000. Emergent BioSolutions, a “global enterprise” with headquarters in Gaithersburg, MD, was established in 1998. Its first project was to partner with the United States Defense Department to supply the Anthrax vaccine that was administered to members of the military (www.emergentbiosolutions.com/about-us/.) The current CEO of the company is Joseph C. Papa. Mr. Papa’s most-recent position was CEO of Bausch + Lomb, another large Big Pharma company. Mr. Papa, apparently, is a “mover and shaker” in the pharmaceutical industry. However, it is also apparent that Baush + Lomb was in financial trouble when he left it to become CEO of Emergent BioSolutions. In fact, Bausch + Lomb is “exploring” selling off some of its pharmaceutical assets, due to “significant debt load” (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bausch-lomb-explores-sale-amid-112230409.html.) Perhaps, the company’s Post-IPO debt funding was not enough: www.crunchbase.com/organization/bausch-lomb/company_financials; scroll down to “Investors.” Mr. Papa has Bachelor’s and Doctorate degrees in Pharmacy; his career includes working with many Big Pharma companies (Novartis, Cardinal Health, and Watson Pharmaceuticals, among others.) Please see his entry in Wikipedia; and, here: https://waterstreet.com/people/papa-joseph. Water Street (Water Street Healthcare Partners) is an investment company that has a portfolio worth approximately $6Billion spread across healthcare services companies, medical diagnostics companies, and pharmaceutical/life sciences companies (https://waterstreet.com/companies.)

Mr. Papa was hired on 21 February 2024 by Emergent BioSolutions to facilitate the financial turnaround of the company. Below is a screenshot of the company’s financials from September 2023 to September 2024, via Crunchbase. It appears that Mr. Papa, a “mover and shaker” in the Big Pharma world, is working hard:

Also, via Crunchbase, a snapshot of Emergent BioSolution’s funders:

Which leads to this: https://investors.emergentbiosolutions.com/news-releases/news-release-details/emergent-biosolutions-acam2000r-smallpox-and-mpox-vaccinia, “Emergent BioSolutions’ ACAM2000R (Smallpox and Mpox (Vaccinia) Vaccine, Live) Receives U.S. FDA Approval for Mpox Indication; Public Health Mpox Outbreak Continues Across Africa and Other Regions”, 29 August 2024. The announcement follows this, from the WHO: www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/mpox, 17 August 2024. A screenshot of a portion of article is below:

Which also follows the WHO declaration of an “Mpox Public Health Emergency” in Africa: https://investors.emergentbiosolutions.com/news-releases/news-release-details/emergent-biosolutions-responds-mpox-public-health-emergency, 19 August 2024.

It appears that now, Mpox is being “re-classified” as another, although serious, sexually-transmitted disease that can infect any sexually-active person; and, that Mpox has apparently “made the leap” from monkeys to other animals (rodents and even to domesticated dogs), and to between animals and humans. This leads to another aspect of the situation: Yours Truly’s suspicion that there have been / are ongoing, Gain-of-Function experiments on Mpox.

Here is the “fast and dirty” summary on Gain-of-Function experiments with Mpox:

One: Up until 22 August 2024, the FDA had only ONE approved “vaccine” for Mpox: JYNNEOS. However, on that same day, the FDA conducted a “review” of the BLA Application (Biologics License Application) for ACAM2000 to have approval as a “vaccine” for Mpox. This application was approved on 29 August 2024 (www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-roundup-august-30-2024.) Please see: www.fda.gov/media/181552/download for the BLA review. The FDA reviewers, apparently, had some “reservations” about ACAM2000 — see the screenshot below:

Despite the multiple reviewer comments regarding the BLA for ACAM2000, the FDA approved it anyway for Mpox “prevention.” In fact, look at THIS, from section 11.2 of the ACAM2000 BLA document, below:

Two, the Gain-of-Function issue regarding Mpox: First, the CDC connection:

The CDC has a”working relationship” with countries all over the world, including African countries: www.cdc.gov/global-health/about/index.html. The NIH has an entire department, the Fogarty International Center, part of the agency’s “global outreach.” Here is the agency’s link to the “Sub-Saharan African Region”: www.fic.nih.gov/WorldRegions/Pages/SubSaharanAfrica.aspx.

The “Fauci connection” related to his article regarding the role of the NIAID “…in preparing for an expanded “biodefense” role”, April 2022: www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/expanded-biodefense-role-national-institutes-health. The NCJ Number is 194395. Below is the Abstract:

The CDC has an updated report on the incidence of Clade II infections of Mpox, an outbreak that originated in Central Africa (more on Clade II of Mpox further down in today’s post): www.cdc.gov/, “Clade II Mpox Outbreak Originating in Central Africa”, 13 September 2024. Per this article, there are no Clade I Mpox infections in the United States at this time; however, there are 2466 reported cases of Clade II Mpox infections, with 7 deaths. There are also, per the CDC report, cases of Clade II of Mpox literally all over the world at this time.

Here is an example of Gain-of-Function experiments with the Clade II of Mpox. This paper is about a study conducted at Kansas State University in which pigs were exposed to the Clade II of Mpox to see if they would get sick, and then take various blood and biological samples and test them. Sure enough, the pigs contracted Mpox. Please see: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC11168330/, “Experimental inoculation of pigs with monkeypox virus results in productive infection and transmission to sentinels”, Emily Mantlo, et al., 7 May 2024. “Sentinels” were the pigs who were not injected with the Clade II Mpox, but were put in the same cages as those pigs who were. The “sentinel” pigs also came down with Mpox (in other words, animal-to-animal transmission of the virus.) Below are the Ethics Statement and the Funding Statement for this study:

Note that the study was conducted in BSL-3 labs at KSU; that tissue-processing was performed at CDC BSL-2 facilities; and, that, apparently, college students were working in the BSL-3 labs in the study. This indicates that Gain-of-Function experiments with the Clade II of Mpox were being performed; that lower-level biosafety labs were used; and, that college students were involved (how much close supervision was provided by KSU?)

Yours Truly now turns to the alarms being sounded regarding this Gain-of-Function research on Mpox, beginning here: www.science.org/content/article/house-republicans-fault-nih-for-evasive-answers-on-risky-monkeypox-virus-study, 11 June 2024. This is followed by: https://usrtk.org/risky-research/fauci-institute-hid-mpox-gain-of-function-plans/, 11 June 2024, by Emily Kopp. A screenshot from the USTRK article is below:

The link to the Congressional report is here.

So, Gain-of-Function experiments are being performed using the Mpox virus; experiments funded by the NIH. A very dangerous, deadly Smallpox “vaccine”, ACAM2000, was suddenly FDA-approved for the “prevention” of Mpox. The “definition” of who is “at risk” for an Mpox infection has been “expanded” to include all persons who are sexually active. The Clade II of Mpox (the one that is the subject of the Gain-of-Function experiments) is now infecting people all over the planet, including in the United States. And more. Cui bono? How many of the general public will line up for an injection of ACAM2000 because the CDC / FDA / AMA / Establishment Medicine, will issue a warning due to “increasing numbers of infections being reported of Mpox?” How many healthcare professionals will be “mandated” into taking ACAM2000 “to protect themselves and the patients they care for?” (Again, JYNNEOS was already approved for Mpox “vaccination”, and it is ** potentially ** a “safer” alternative “vaccine.”) How many more Gain-of-Function experiments will be conducted, not in facilities like the Wuhan Institute of Virology or the Baric Lab at UNC Chapel Hill — but at places like the BSL-3 Ag Lab at Kansas State University (a facility where, arguably, one would expect research on, say, equine viruses, not Clade II Mpox experiments on pigs)? How much more Gain-of-Function experimentation will be hidden and/or “obscured” from public knowledge, let alone from Congress?

Peace, Good Energy, Respect: PAVACA

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pgroup2

My condolences.  😥 

cthulhu

Gahhhh!!!

What a repulsive company, people, and industry!

cthulhu

Thank you, CV, for doing a deep dive to document these slimeballs. I had to read it in little bits so as not to spike my BP — I hate to imagine what researching it must have been like.

Gail Combs

Thanks so much for doing these deep dives.

Gail Combs

PAVACA,
All it takes is INTEREST and the willingness to read and research. There is nothing ‘magical’ about a science degree.

I FIRED a guy with a BS in Chemistry and hired a carpenter’s helper as a replacement. One of the BEST TECHS I ever had. He was absolutely great to work with.

GA/FL

You are such a brilliant gifted lady in music, medicine and mercy!

Valerie Curren

Amen & so well said!!!

TheseTruths

I’m only part of the way in, and the name “PfizerForAll” is sickening. It appears to be a propaganda effort to funnel people into Pfizer’s income stream. I wish RFKJ could clean this up.

scott467

Pf-Lie-zerForAll

cthulhu

Sign up now to become Pfertilizer!

GA/FL

Snort!!!

scott467

” I wish RFKJ could clean this up.”

__________

Not just clean it up, the whole pharmaceutical industry, as it exists today, needs to be utterly destroyed.

The people IN it, who have facilitated turning it into a global crime organization, need to be prosecuted for crimes against humanity.

The only way to stop what is happening — not just in Big Pharma but across all globalized industries — is to expose the insane greed and the insane political ideology that motivates everything they do.

It seems like the greed, communist ideology, and fascist eugenics-on-steroids Nazi depopulation ideology have become a Satanic humanity-extinction machine.

You don’t ‘reform’ something like that (as if anything of any size has ever actually been ‘reformed’).

It can only be razed to the ground, and start over.

And this time, no seeding of the new with the same bad actors, a la Operation Paperclip 2.0.

If that means the wholly corrupt, criminal, rogue, renegade, tyrannical gov’t needs to be razed to the ground right along with it (see applicable sections of the Declaration of Independence, i.e., duty), well, that would be truly heartbreaking

…………………….
“That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.” — Declaration of Independence
…………………….

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TradeBait2

^^^ This.

Beyond reclamation.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yeah, this homopox vaccine is horrible. Something is very wrong here.

rayzorback

Hey Pfizer…… How about coming up with a CURE for something.
I hear that you have NEVER come up with a CURE for ANYTHING!

smiley2

with NO LIABILITY either !

what does that tell us.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The evil is just growing.

TheseTruths

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pgroup2

Typical idiot terrorist thugs – that method doesn’t work unless the string is taut.

Sheeesh.

TheseTruths

Brenden Dilley:

Absolutely incredible story.

The Trump family is a national treasure.

A man tells what PDJT’s father, Fred Trump, did for his family after his father died when he was a boy.

Happy go lucky.

🥹 🥹 🥹 🥹 Beautiful thanks for sharing.

I hope everyone listens to this today 💕

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TheseTruths

YW. PDJT followed in the footsteps of his father. That guy was a schoolmate of Donald’s.

Gail Combs

You could hear the tears in his voice as he remembered.

TheseTruths

George:

BREAKING: Oklahoma officials just announced that they have removed 450,000 ineligible names from the voter rolls, including 100,000 dead people and 15,000 duplicate registrations that somehow got pushed into the system

“Oklahoma ensures only eligible voters participate in elections in part by following voter list maintenance procedures provided in state law. Since January 1, 2021, Oklahoma election officials have removed 97,065 deceased voters, 143,682 voters who moved out-of-state, 5,607 felons, 14,993 duplicate registrations, and 194,962 inactive voters who were canceled during the address verification process.”

Inflated voter rolls are on the Mt. Rushmore of ingredients of fraud. All you need to cheat in an election are ineligible names, universal mail-in voting, no chain of custody on ballots, and vulnerable voting machines. And don’t forget a little bit of corruption on the side.

Oklahoma is a red state with 4 million people in it. Numbers like these can easily flip it from deep red to blue overnight. If this is happening there, you can only imagine the problem is 100x worse in other states.

pgroup2

Stunning but not surprised.

TheseTruths

Needs to happen in every state.

GA/FL

AMEN!

TradeBait2

People are starting to put it together how the system has been rigged for many decades and perhaps longer.

This does not just concern Dem vs. GOP in the federal elections. It extends into the primaries of both as well. This is how the uniparty beats We the People. You get RINOs in conservative districts instead of patriots. It extends down ballot to the state and local elections from which the future federal officials rise up.

It all has to be cleaned up in each state before we have a shot at being the Constitutional Republic we are designed legally to be.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Good news! Wheatie will NOT be voting Dem this time!

TheseTruths

😊

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

She would be relieved.

para59r

TheseTruths

Karli Bonne’

Here are two questions Trump was asked that didn’t make the show last night – This is exactly what Kamala lacks “authenticity”! Trump being on Gutfeld was fantastic!

para59r

Not the only thing Kamala lacks… She lacks votes!

TheseTruths

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TheseTruths
Gail Combs

NewScum is going to really regret his attack on Memes. 😆 TALK ABOUT A CHALLENGE!

scott467

Here Are 9 AI-Generated Deep Fakes Of Gavin Newsom That Are Illegal To Share In California

Sep 18, 2024 ·
BabylonBee.com

Brought to you by: My Patriot Supply

“California Governor Gavin Newsom took a strong stand against anyone enjoying life yesterday, signing a law that prohibits making artificial images in order to make people laugh. Sad!

As a helpful guide, The Babylon Bee has created the following A.I.-generated images of Gavin Newsom himself to demonstrate exactly what is now illegal in California:

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1) A shocking image of Governor Newsom preparing a family’s beloved cat for dinner:

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2) A damning depiction of Newsom using a flamethrower to ignite California’s devastating wildfires:

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3) It would be a shame if too many people saw this image of Newsom losing badly to Donald Trump in a game of Catan:

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4) The public might view the governor in a different (even more gay) way when they see him enjoying a Bud Light:

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5) Ah, Gavin enjoying a lovely, romantic candlelit dinner with his “Pooh Bear” Xi:

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6) Newsom will be sure to jail anyone who dares to share this image of him proudly attending a Trump rally:

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7) Shame on anyone who laughed at this picture of Gavin Newsom wearing his underwear on the outside of his pants:

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8) As lifelike and totally believable as this image is, no one should be led to believe Gavin Newsom picks his nose. Disgusting!

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9) Here’s an embarrassing picture of Gavin Newsom dining out at a French restaurant after ordering everyone else in the state to stay in their homes:

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Oops — that last one was totally real. Sorry, Gavin! Don’t worry, nobody’s laughing at you. Please don’t put us in jail. Yet.”

Aubergine

Meme them ’til they cry, and then make memes of them crying.

Also, Rules for Radicals:

“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”

TheseTruths

The Babylon Bee:

Governor Abbott Declares Texas Sanctuary State For Memers

…and Elon applauds.

Valerie Curren
TheseTruths

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There never was any joy.

scott467

There is no joy in Mudville — mighty Cackala has struck out 😁

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TheseTruths

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scott467

Wow. I resemble all of those remarks! 😂

Valerie Curren

Ditto! Maybe he reads at the Q-Tree!

Please

No Lies Detected.

Pretty bleak from someone named ‘HealthRanger’.

TheseTruths

Exclusive — Rep. Matt Gaetz: Some Colleagues Suspicious of a Secret Service Mole

Some lawmakers are suspicious of a potential mole in the U.S. Secret Service following the second assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump, Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) said during an appearance on Breitbart News Daily.

Host Mike Slater pointed to the fact that now, after the second assassination attempt on Trump, the “aura of invincibility of the Secret Service” is disappearing, which could lead to more individuals with ill-intent attempting to go after the former president.

“It’s a great point. The barrier to entry to assassination chaos seems to be lowered,” Gaetz said, noting that he has colleagues who are suspicious that there is something more nefarious at play within the Secret Service.

“I have Republican colleagues who have not ruled out a mole inside the Secret Service of providing information about points of vulnerability,” he said. “I’ve not seen evidence of that, but I’ve got colleagues that are very, very smart at this who say they can’t rule that out, given some of the anomalies and the fact pattern here.”

More likely, Gaetz said, there is “such a sense of disdain for Trump, and there’s such a desire to diminish him within some of these agencies that giving him less protection, not having him surrounded by a bunch of strong men that appear authoritative in nature, that that type of a virtue signal to drain protective resources away is tolerated because, frankly, in their heart of hearts, they don’t think much of Trump”…

smiley2

and watch out for those foreign honeytraps 💋

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para59r

and frat girls. They’ve begun to flash Trump at his rallies. Not sure what’s up with that, but photo’s are making the rounds on the internets. 😮

Valerie Curren

trannies with titties???

sorority chicks?

rayzorback

Chicks with dicks?

Valerie Curren

could be

pgroup2

I must lead a sheltered life because I sure haven’t seen any.

Got any links?  😂 

kalbokalbs

Not from Missouri, but Show Me some links or pics, or it didn’t happen.

para59r

Happened

pgroup2

Not real tatas.

Silicone storage containers. No different than that freak on the White House lawn. Just disgusting.

Flashing is for nightclubs, if it’s for any place at all.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This is an attempt to discredit MAGA and Trump in particular.

Things are going to get very interesting now. They will try EVERYTHING to stop Trump.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Thank you. This is a very weird account, peddling other disinformation as well. Seems very agency.

I think this is CIA trying to start a trend to discredit MAGA.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

That’s very CIA, actually.

TheseTruths

WAYNE ROOT: We Can Stop the Democrats From Rigging & Stealing This Election. Now. Today. Here’s How.
Wow. He is proposing that Trump, who is “filthy rich,” offer huge rewards NOW to those who have participated in election fraud and who will testify about it.

…Please announce you are putting up $100 million, or $200 million, or $500 million (by passing the bucket among your wealthy friends at Maralago), for a REWARD FUND.

To pay REWARDS of millions of dollars to anyone willing to come forward and confess, who is an active participant in the rigging of this election.

They must know where the bodies are buried. 

They must be key players in the steal. They must be not just witnesses, but guilty of participating themselves. They must be willing to sign sworn affidavits and appear at press conferences. It must lead to convictions. 

But they can get filthy rich. Rich enough for the rest of their lives. Rich enough to buy a mansion on the beach and sip Margaritas for life. 

Offer $100 million, or $200 million, or $500 million, to richly reward any of these witnesses who can testify to the nation how Democrats are rigging, and fixing, and stealing this election. 

Offer eye-popping money and they will come…

pgroup2

I love Wayne.

RAC

But their beneficiaries can get filthy rich. Rich enough for the rest of their lives. Rich enough to buy a mansion on the beach and sip Margaritas for life. 

fixed it

scott467

This could lead to a bidding war, where the Cackala campaign publicly offers to pay the criminal witnesses even MORE money to remain silent — and raw sewage media would TOTALLY cover for her 😂

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Please

All she has to say is, “Epstein didn’t kill himself” ;))

TheseTruths

🍿

Valerie Curren

Crime pays & Big Crime Pays Big 🙁

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Wayne is a nice guy, but he’s naive if he thinks this can’t be stopped by the Demon Dems. All they have to do is send in some fake whistleblowers to gum up the works.

smiley2

excellent information & compilation of a hefty & formidable subject.

will have to bookmark this, and chew in small bites for proper digestion.

thanks for putting all of it together.

depressing & infuriating…

but what isn’t.

👍

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Happy go lucky.

Yeah absolutely 😡

scott467

Two: That the FDA approval of the very dangerous and deadly Smallpox “vaccine””

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What’s wrong with the old smallpox vaccine, the one that eradicated smallpox in the West?

cthulhu

The story of the smallpox vaccine is quite lengthy and very strange.

Supposedly, Dr. Edward Jenner (the guy in the pic on top of this page) found that milkmaids who had cowpox (which was annoying) didn’t get smallpox (which was deadly). But pharmaceutical law wasn’t as developed as it is today, and soon every Dr. Tom, Dick, and Murgatroyd was running around England vaccinating people with cowpox. The very word “vaccine” has more than a casual relationship with the Spanish word for cow — “vaca”.

None of them seem to work as well as Dr. Jenner’s vaccinations, however, and there is evidence that this was because Jenner actually used horsepox instead of cowpox. Furthermore, every doctor used their own “special blend”, based on various breeds and colors of cow, among other things.

TL/DR — there is no one “magic bullet” smallpox vaccine that eradicated the disease in the West.

scott467

Guessing it was more or less standardized a few years later, by the time I was born?

Gail Combs
cthulhu

I don’t think they ever truly standardized it before they stopped generally using it. The last natural case was in 1977, and they stopped vaccinating people in the West in the 1970s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox_vaccine

Valerie Curren

Was it another one of those diseases that Mostly disappeared due to better hygiene?

cthulhu

Most of those went the fecal-oral route (bleah!). Cholera, polio, typhoid, etc.

Person-to-person (measles, smallpox, chickenpox) aren’t so much dampened by hygiene. This goes double for respiratory diseases (RSV, common cold, flu).

Vector diseases (malaria, dengue, plague, lyme disease) are not dampened by hygiene so much as vector control.

One thing to remember about ecosystems is that pretty much every organism wants to kill off every other organism and reign supreme.

Valerie Curren

TY, this is a helpful summation   :wpds_evil: 

cthulhu

Helpful, if nauseating…..

Valerie Curren

Yeah….shudder

pgroup2

One thing to remember about ecosystems is that pretty much every organism wants to kill off every other organism and reign supreme.

Well that’s certainly true with Democrats.  😠 

TheseTruths

One thing to remember about ecosystems is that pretty much every organism wants to kill off every other organism and reign supreme.

So basically they’re all politicians.

Valerie Curren

I’m not sure what disease it was for but my dad said that His dad, as head of the household, got some type of vaccine/shot? that developed a pustule & then they would prick that pustule with a pin & prick all other household members with the “pus” in the pustule, thus inoculating the family. This would have been the 40s or 50s in Detroit, I believe.

pgroup2

Sounds like deliberate infection with cowpox. Why the procedure wouldn’t be used on each family member is strange to me.

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Valerie Curren

Well government only had to give it to like 1/4 of the population & then families would carry our the follow-through I would guess.

pgroup2

Aha!

ThanQ.

Valerie Curren

YW

Valerie Curren

I would guess it’s more economical to just get the head of the house who then would give it to everyone else in his household. Perhaps also quicker with fewer logistics to deal with.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Smallpox vaccine, using “vaccinia” see all prior complicated discussions of what this actually is).

I got this as a kid. Still have the scar.

Barb Meier

My cousin’s scar sunk in. Mine made a big bump. I wonder if we got different shots or if I reacted differently than my cousin. After a number of years, my scar became flat.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Lots of variability in how people react.

cthulhu

Also, the mode of administration can vary widely from patient to patient.

Valerie Curren

I’ve got a scar on my upper arm from something they injected, I think near the surface of the skin, that bubbled up, probably in the 70s in school, iirc.

Gail Combs

Calf lymph I still have the scar.

A History of the Smallpox Vaccine since the 16th Century

 Cowpox served as a natural vaccine until the modern smallpox vaccine emerged in the 20th century. From 1958 to 1977, the World Health Organization conducted a global vaccination campaign that eradicated smallpox, making it the only human disease to be eradicated. Although routine smallpox vaccination is no longer performed on the general public, the vaccine is still being produced to guard against bioterrorism, biological warfare, and for monkeypox.[2][3]…

Calf lymph was the name given[7] to a type of smallpox vaccine used in the 19th century, and which was still manufactured up to the 1970s. Calf lymph was known as early as 1805 in Italy,[8] but it was the Lyon Medical Conference of 1864 which made the technique known to the wider world.[9] In 1898 calf lymph became the standard method of vaccination for smallpox in the United Kingdom….

Dryvax was a freeze-dried live-virus smallpox vaccine prepared from calf lymph and used for smallpox eradication efforts.[14] The vaccine was effective, providing successful immunogenicity in about 95% of vaccinated persons. Dryvax has serious adverse side-effects in about 1% to 2% of cases.[15]

Before its discontinuation, it was the world’s oldest smallpox vaccine, created in the late 19th century by American Home Products, a predecessor of Wyeth. By the 1940s, Wyeth was the leading U.S. manufacturer of the vaccine and the only manufacturer by the 1960s. After world health authorities declared smallpox had been eradicated from nature in 1980, Wyeth stopped making the vaccine.[16] The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) kept a stockpile for use in case of emergency. In 2003 this supply helped contain an outbreak of monkeypox in the United States.[3] In February 2008, the CDC disposed of the last of its 12 million doses of Dryvax. Its supply was replaced by ACAM2000,[17] a more modern product manufactured in laboratories by Acambis, a division of Sanofi Pasteur.[16][18]…

ACAM2000

ACAM2000 is a smallpox vaccine developed by Acambis. It was approved for use in the United States by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) on 31 August 2007.[17] 👉It contains live vaccinia virus, cloned from the same strain used in an earlier vaccine, Dryvax.👈 While the Dryvax virus was cultured in the skin of calves and freeze-dried, ACAM2000s virus is cultured in kidney epithelial cells (Vero cells) from an African green monkey. Efficacy and adverse reaction incidence are similar to Dryvax.[15] The vaccine is not routinely available to the U.S. public; it is, however, used in the military and maintained in the Strategic National Stockpile.[14][20]

A droplet of ACAM2000 is administered by the percutaneous route (scarification) using 15 jabs of a bifurcated needle. ACAM2000 should not be injected by the intradermal, subcutaneous, intramuscular, or intravenous route….

pgroup2

“Just stop with the misinformation.”
— Big Pharma spox

RAC

Before this story finally fizzles out it will be buried under a blanket of multi layered lies….
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“Israel planted explosives in the pagers that exploded in Lebanon at the manufacturing stage, ABC News reported, citing sources.

This type of supply chain interdiction operation had been planned for at least 15 years, a US intelligence source confirmed.”

“The attack planning involved front companies, with multiple layers of Israeli intelligence personnel and their assets, and at the forefront was a legitimate company that made pagers… At least some of the companies carried out the work without knowing who they were really working for,” ABC reports.

The pagers were loaded with one to two ounces of explosives and a remote trigger to cause the explosion.

Although the pagers were formally manufactured by Hungarian BAC Consulting, they “were never produced in Hungary and the company was a reseller with no manufacturing or operational facility in Hungary.”

https://t.me/intelslava/66794

scott467

“This type of supply chain interdiction operation had been planned for at least 15 years, a US intelligence source confirmed.”

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How could they have predicted that anyone would go back to 1990s pager technology?

cthulhu

Wait until the Israelis have them making smoke signals using oleander branches….

rayzorback

Target Cell Phones… Force the issue.

pgroup2

A little help from God?

scott467

“The pagers were loaded with one to two ounces of explosives and a remote trigger to cause the explosion.”

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From the videos I have seen, it seems like they needed more powerful explosives, or to use cell phones, so three to four ounces could be jammed inside.

cthulhu

Rumor has it that they used PETN, which is 1.6x more powerful than an equivalent amount of TNT — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TNT_equivalent#Relative_effectiveness_factor

Even TNT should not be disregarded, as it is about twice as effective as gunpowder.

cthulhu

To put things further into perspective, 45ACP loads are only about 7 grains of propellant per cartridge — and there are over 400 grains per ounce.

cthulhu

Now I’m worried that I misread something and there are about 7 grams of propellant.

There are still a little over 28 grams per ounce, meaning that there might be about 1/4 ounce per 45ACP.

But that doesn’t seem right. 1 gram is 1cc of water, which isn’t particularly light. How would you stuff the weight of 7cc of water, in the form of a powder, into a 45ACP cartridge? It’s not powdered lead.

It’s getting late for me, and someone around here probably knows.

pgroup2

Grains, not grams?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The whole thing about an OUNCE of explosive seems very off. An ounce is a LOT. It would cause a way bigger blast than what is seen in the videos.

I think the media gave a wrong unit. Possibly intentionally.

kalbokalbs

“I think the media gave a wrong unit. Possibly intentionally.”

AND, the media largely has no clue. Media regurgitates whatever is handed to them.

barkerjim
  • 1 grain is approximately equal to 64.8 milligrams or 1/4375 of an ounce.
cthulhu

I think you may have slipped a digit there….

https://www.unitconverters.net/weight-and-mass/ounce-to-grain.htm

I’m seeing 437.5 grains per ounce.

cthulhu

Here’s a nice source for all sorts of propellant needs, including cannon —

https://hodgdonpowderco.com/warnings/

— does not, however, include recommendations for pagers.

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cthulhu

Sample loaded pager —

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cthulhu

This story — https://www.timesofisrael.com/hezbollah-was-still-distributing-pagers-hours-before-tuesday-blast/ — states that the pagers had 3 grams of explosive.

smiley2

the writer of that is ABC’s Josh Margolin, therefore I believe and trust absoliutely none of it…

here’s Margolin’s professional profile, FYI…

https://abcnews.go.com/author/josh_margolin

“…a U.S. intelligence source…”

yeah right. 👎

(picking up on some anti-Israel vibes here, lately, BTW.)

RAC

Read em or scroll em

smiley2

or disagree with ’em.

Gail Combs

How about ANTI [NUCLEAR] WAR?

Israel can do as they please BUT DO NOT USE AMERICAN TAX PAYER MONEY AND DO NOT DRAG US INTO IT!

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cthulhu

Unfortunately, “Arming Israel” is something that would need to be phased out — much like “Arming NATO” and for much the same reasons.

US warmongers have used Israel (and NATO) as an advanced staging base for decades. The deal was, “you guys standardize on our stuff, and we can borrow from you and you can borrow from us…..and, furthermore, we can manufacture it where we conveniently need jobs and just trade paperwork.”

Going cold turkey on Israel (and NATO) would be a major betrayal, and going cold turkey on Israel when they’re fighting Hamas when the US cleared their shelves for Afghanistan, the Iraq War, the Syrian operations, and now Ukraine is particularly nasty.

Signaling a withdrawal and phasing out over 10 years might be viable.

cthulhu

Just to be abundantly clear, we’ve been hosed by many institutions among our “allies” for a very long period of time.

In many cases, there was a “quid pro quo” in place, but our quid is an obvious drain while their quo was secret. With NATO and Israel, some of the quo is obvious, so any winding-up processes should be gradual.

In many other cases, the quo is not so obvious. Either it can be disclosed, and an appropriate wrapping-up performed — or it can remain secret, in which case we should just cut it off.

Organizations that we should do without include:

The United Nations (UN)
The International Monetary Fund (IMF)
The World Bank
The World Trade Organization (WTO)
The World Health Organization (WHO)
NATO
Five Eyes
…..

Valerie Curren

hear, hear to your list!

cthulhu

Feel free to add your own. I didn’t even include the WEF….

Valerie Curren

DNC comes to mind
IRS
FBLie
CeYeA
Federal Reserve
SES
EPA
Dept. of Ed
Green New Deal (all permutations)
TSA

kalbokalbs

Flush them all. Cold Turkey.

GA/FL

Arming ISIS, arming Ukraine, arming Iran, arming the Taliban…

Arming evildoers was what Benghazi was all about….

kalbokalbs

End it all.

Gail Combs

That is what Donald Trump and the Abraham Accords was all about but Bibi WAS NOT INTERESTED.

smiley2

do you understand the meaning of allies ?

Gail Combs

I understand the BRITISH EMPIRE USING THE USA FOR CANNON FODDER!

RAC
kalbokalbs

He right. Stop the madness.

RAC

Are you claiming that Margolin totally invented the story or that he was repeating the governments talking points.
If the latter, then he did get it from government sources, the same ones who have been publishing the same stuff previously on CNN and NYT.
Maybe the government or departments within it are disassociating itself from the Israeli action.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/israel-hand-manufacturing-pagers-exploded-lebanon-source/story?id=113851347

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Valerie Curren

(picking up on some anti-Israel vibes here, lately, BTW.)”

maybe this is underpinning that

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smiley2

the History of Zionism is just one, historically recent political perspective for the so-called “History of Israel”…and , as such, is not at all a complete History of Israel.

there is also the much older, more poignant & more profound Biblical/Prophetic History of Israel which, to date, I’ve not seen posted here.

referring to the history of Zionism, and the various proponents of it throughout recent world history, as “The History of Israel” is a rather shallow…and oftentimes politically-motivated… perspective.

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Valerie Curren

The Jews remain God’s Chosen People.

When I see “Zionist” & strikes me as an anti-Semitic derogatory label.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The whole problem here is that proud Jewish labels instantly become allegedly antisemitic based upon who is calling out who, and why.

I’m starting to think “antisemitic” is about as stupid a label as “racist’, and I’m shying away from both.

The number of right-wing Jews who call left-wing Jews antisemites has always made me think it must be a very successful tactic, but is it real? I don’t think so. Leftist Jews are stupid, and sometimes deluded and self-destructive, but I don’t think their Israel-loathing and self-criticism is actually self-hateful at the level of actual antisemitism. I don’t think it’s healthy, but that’s a different story.

My bottom line remains simple. I support Israel’s existence, because I believe that’s right, whether or not Israel acts abusive or manipulative in its relationship with us. People have rights, and Jews have the right of return to their historic homeland, from which humanity made a horrible mistake of evicting them.

I’m America First, and I understand why Israel is Israel First, and Russia is Russia First.

Beyond that, I stand for Truth. I won’t lie for the sake of American politics – why would I do that for Israel?

The world is constantly trying to manipulate Jews into extinction, so it’s not surprising that Jews will try to manipulate others into protecting or defending them, or into attacking their enemies.

The Book of Esther is basically the admission and even celebration of this sad role as ordained suspicious-cat survivor.

If America was more honest about defending Jews and Israel, we could demand more honesty about Israel’s behavior toward America. It works both ways. So – without asking anybody’s permission – I do both. I defend Israel and Jews, but I will NEVER shut up about the truth for the sake of either – other than telling Nazis that there are no Jews in my basement or attic, and there never will be! 😉

Tonawanda

The above is about 90% of where I am at.

The history of the Jews is one of the most remarkable aspects of human history.

When the British wish to defuse a tense situation, or to avoid a confrontation, they will say in a conciliatory way: “faults on both sides.”

In 2024 it is deemed anti-semitic to say “faults on both sides.”

Assigning characteristics or consequential action to entire people is always faught with imprecision and subjectivity. Yet every day we say “the Americans did this” or “the moslems do that” and it is readily understood to involve imprecision and subjectivity, and we also understand it to mean something real.

In 2024, it is considered anti-semitic to look at history and conclude that the Jewish people were anything other than 100 % persecuted victims at all times and everywhere, always completely innocent. Common sense and reason make this pov implausible and absurd.

The use of the bludgeon “anti-semitic” has long since become just as malignantly preposterous as use of the word “racist.”

There is a genuine hatred for Christians and non-Jewish white people among Jews, historically and everywhere. People wonder why Jews overwhelmingly vote Democtat – – and that IMO is part of the reason. Whether the hatred is justified ought to be a debatable proposition, but that would entail discarding the absurdity of 100 % innocence.

It is understandable why so many black people hate white people; understandable, but based on dubious reasons, reasons that can be debated. But all we get is name-calling and dehumanization.

The crux of your post is that truth is non-negotiable. Not easy to get at very often, but essential. And the process of getting at the truth is essential and non-negotiable.

I have read several books recently on the history of Indians in North America, books which necessarily include the conflict between Indians and white people. While the conflict was taking place over the course of centuries, there were in fact “faults on both sides.” But the nature of the conflict was so intense, the parties had their own respective truths, but not the whole truth and nothing but the truth. The hatred was too intense, and the matter could only be settled with violence (generalizing).

The matter of Israel, its founding and existence, is separate AND not separate from the history of the Jews. The “whole” truth is not likely to be recognized or even allowed to be discussed in 2024. It is not even close to analagous to the conflict between the Indians and white people, IMO, but that is one of the debatable points.

If the premise of a position is that of either the Indians or the white people, then IMO that is a faulty premise, understandable as it may be.

And if you want me to accept your unacceptable premise, than there is a good reason for your position to deserve no respect.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Excellent points! And you have me perfectly pegged – TRUTH is not negotiable – both its pursuit and its free statement.

That’s why we have to have free speech here. I may not have the truth, and somebody may bring it here, in the form of very unpopular – even hateful – speech.

Valerie Curren

TY Wolf for this important articulation of a moral high ground…

smiley2

so is those Dancing Israelis after 9/11…

they were “dancing” because their job/work was cancelled for the day…work that required them to use box cutters, incidently.

they had some other issues…but Icke’s (and others’) conspiracy theory about The Dancing Israelis is BS.

https://www.thejc.com/news/world/who-were-the-dancing-israelis-of-9-11-c7f9b960

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cthulhu

One of the rumors I found particularly amusing was that the actual explosive-loaded pagers were manufactured in Iran, with a cover story that they’d be deployed in the Great Satan or Lesser Satan, then shipped to another country where they were relabeled as “special Hezbollah pagers”.

pgroup2

That’s not true? Dang, there goes my happiness.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OMG, that is a level of “push the ‘Iran did it’ mantra toward DJT” that is just OTT!

cthulhu

But if those pagers came through Iran, as a number of press reports have claimed, it also planted doubt in the Lebanese mind about the reliability of Iranian systems. Many Israeli intelligence operations, including the recent Haniyeh killing, have demonstrated that Mossad has thoroughly penetrated Iran. That penetration has now obviously become a threat to Hezbollah, which has to wonder if it can trust anything manufactured or procured by Iran.

From https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1836725630001381576.html h/t Insty

mollypitcher5

That explains the pagers but what about the walkie talkies and the other items blowing up the next day?
I don’t understand how they could be prompted to all go off at once

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Easy. Israel has to use it up now. Once the op started, all devices come under suspicion. Use them or lose them. And they don’t want any to remain for analysis, if possible.

Israel did this perfectly, IMO, getting maximum damage from each phase of the op.

mollypitcher5

thank you and I hate to be the dumb one but if they put some explosive in all the devices what method do they use to set them off? Obviously not a fuse. Does this material react to number dialed to the device or did the material have a known shelf life before it would overheat.

IOW, if it was a message or # to these devices, how does just that sequence happen? Wouldn’t there also have to be a chip or something that was also implanted to react to the incoming #?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

YOU GET IT!

Yes. Something – ANYTHING – any component of the device electronics – needs to simply react to some hidden signal, and then do whatever it needs to do to set off the bomb. It could be ANYTHING – even part of the bomb itself.

As an aside, this is exactly why electronic voting machines are INHERENTLY INSECURE, in my opinion, and should be BANNED.

cthulhu

This is such an epic operation that it puts Bibi’s execution on the same level as Jonathon Netanyahu’s execution of Entebbe.

cthulhu

For those not familiar with the reference, Benjamin (“Bibi”) Netanyahu had an older brother, Yonatan, who led the raid on Entebbe airport in 1976.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entebbe_raid

Palestinian terrorists hijacked an Airbus A300 in Athens, eventually landing at Entebbe airport in Uganda with 248 hostages. Idi Amin’s army supported the terrorists with 100 troops, and 148 non-Israelis were released over the next couple of days.

As night fell on July 3, 1976, 100 Israeli commandos slipped into Entebbe. They rescued all but three of the 106 remaining hostages, killed all the terrorists and 45 Ugandan soldiers, and destroyed 11 MiG17 and MiG21’s….in 90 minutes with five casualties and one fatality.

The one fatality was Yonatan Netanyahu. Bibi grew up in the shadow of his brother, the hero.

Rosa

Can one of you science types explain why we are 100% positive and absolutely certain beyond a shadow of any doubt that no way, no how could it possibly be a digital (stuxnet-type) attack sending a signal to, say put the device into a rapid endless loop (sending receiving signals???) eventually overheating enough to blow the lithium batteries??? Which could work for radios, handphones, pagers, anything that has such batteries. Making explosive pagers 15 years in advance seems a bit improbable. What would they be making now to use 15 years from now?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

They’re not saying Israel made the pagers years in advance – they’re just saying that 15 years ago, somebody came up with the idea of Israel secretly becoming a supplier of electronic equipment to the enemy.

Which is exactly what China is doing to us, by the way. Expect everything to start blowing up when China goes for Taiwan.

Now – could what happened in Lebanon be a lithium battery blowing up, and not just explosives?

I like the explosive theory much better, because it’s more reliable, and far easier to get the results that were observed.

Overheating a lithium battery is possible, but not reliable, in terms of getting an EXPLOSION. Most would be duds, IMO. Many fires and maybe (if you’re lucky) a majority of “pops”, but getting almost all of them to EXPLODE is far easier with a tiny amount of actual explosive.

Also consider the facts. Many phones should have been noticed to overheat, if it was batteries overheating. Many would have removed the pagers from clothing, hands, etc. Some people would have quickly pulled the batteries. Some would have fizzled, burned, or been duds. Yet none of that happened.

Explosives, IMO. Small component – may have even looked like a condenser or capacitor.

RAC

Condenser, you’re showing your age.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Oh, yeah! 😉

RAC

Bet you remember radios with 4volt filaments and three batteries.

Rosa

Thanks!

cthulhu

My other objection was that Israel would be better off gathering intel from the pagers than making them go boom, but if they manufactured them, they probably have all the intel they need on locations of leadership, warehouses, weapons, etc. It looks like Israel was the one that blinded Hezbollah, not the reverse.

It may also explain why Israel hasn’t assassinated Nasrallah yet: Because he’s evidently an idiot.

https://www.battleswarmblog.com/?p=60301

cthulhu

From the comments:

If I were running the Israeli effort, I’d have deliberately left some of the targets out of the loop, and then quietly let it be known in later months/years that anyone who had a pager and survived unharmed…? Was an Israeli agent.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

TheseTruths

A group portrait of old friends 😅

RAC
Valerie Curren

The potential (likely?) deaths of the “unvaccinated” from exposure to the “vaccinated” are incredibly alarming, especially since the shedding goes on for weeks. Evil people abound!

pat frederick

Martin
September 20, 2024 12:39 am

The Coincidences Continue: New Details About Would-be Assassin Ryan Routh’s Wife
[…]more curious developments involves Ryan Routh’s wife Kathleen Shaffer and her work.
[…] the information about Routh getting his funding from his wife Kathleen Shaffer has raised a whole new line of questions.
[…]Shaffer edited Routh’s book and ran a GoFundMe for his Ukrainian recruitment crusade.
[…]she is employed by a huge, international, publicly traded company called Maximus Corporation which claims to have trained CDC workers in administering covid shots and also brags about helping the Dept. of Defense modernize its technology systems.
According to ChatGPT, “Maximus Corporation has significant connections to the U.S. security state.”
[…]From here, the coincidences continue with Maximus Corporation being headquartered just a few miles away from the CIA’s Langley, Virginia headquarters.
https://amgreatness.com/2024/09/19/the-coincidences-continue-new-details-about-would-be-assassin-ryan-rouths-wife/

From what I can tell,

Ryan Routh and his wife Kathleen Shaffer moved to Hawaii around 2017.

They bought a house in Kaawa in 2017, the house is in her name.

She wrote on LinkedIn about her husband fighting in Ukraine, and how it “turned her world upside down”.

Her world is… pic.twitter.com/11567njX5A

— Audit the Vote Hawaii (@AudittheVoteHI) September 15, 2024

GA/FL

OH-MY-GOSH… another wife involved in ‘nefarious endeavors’ reminds me of that Nellie whats her name?

cthulhu

Ohr.

Aubergine

Whohr.

Fixed it for you.

Valerie Curren

Boom!

Aubergine

Lol.

pgroup2

I love that the strands of your mental network resemble a black widow web. Very asymmetrical and indicates danger within.  😂  😍 

Aubergine

Lol! That’s the best descriptor for my mind anybody ever had!

pat frederick

does explain where he was getting all the funding

TradeBait2

Yup. All roads lead back to Langley after first passing through Ohio.

Valerie Curren

Nellie Ohr, Bruce Ohr’s wife & HAM radio aficionado?

Last edited 24 days ago by Valerie Curren
cthulhu

Whoa, Nellie!!

Valerie Curren

 😂 

pgroup2

Aficionado is a nice touch.  🤗 

Valerie Curren

 😎 

Valerie Curren

she’s his handler???

cthulhu

Likely.

GA/FL

Did he ‘go rogue’ on her?

A marital spat?

Valerie Curren

no clue here–my standard state here in the cheap seats 😉

TradeBait2

Yes.

Long term employable operative of the clowns is “married” to a long term criminal lunatic operative of the clowns.

Yeah, OK, moving on.

Valerie Curren

Sounds like a full time job   :wpds_envy: 

TradeBait2

Operative of Wexner’s operations (Clown). The link below, albeit from Wiki, provides a reminder.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Wexner

Gail Combs

HMMMmmmm

Wexner has owned the mid-18th century Foxcote House in Warwickshire, England, since 1997.[46]

President George W. Bush appointed Wexner to serve in the Honorary Delegation to accompany him to Jerusalem for the celebration of the 60th anniversary of the State of Israel in May 2008.

pgroup2

How come the YSM didn’t swarm her house after he was arrested?

That is their modus operandi, a la the song Dirty Laundry, isn’t it?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

“bUT iRaN DiD iT!!!”

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OMG, I knew it, I knew it, I knew it!!!

This is why they have to go with the IRAN bullshit! Hilarious!!!

Gail Combs

Any bets that is why ISRAEL set off those Beeper Bombs???

Gotta get the Islamic Terrorists all riled up now don’t we?

pat frederick

Martin
September 20, 2024 12:40 am

People 
Sean ‘Diddy’ Combs Placed on Suicide Watch While Awaiting Trial
But Mental State Unclear, Sources Say (Exclusive)
[…]According to the U.S Department of Justice National Institute of Corrections,
suicide watch is “supervisory precautions taken for suicidal inmates that require frequent observation.” 
[…]MDC, which houses 1,600 inmates — many of whom are awaiting trial — is known for being dangerous and understaffed, with a high number of deaths and suicides.
[…]
https://people.com/sean-diddy-combs-placed-on-suicide-watch-while-awaiting-trial-mental-state-unclear-source-8715686

GA/FL

Of course he is….

pat frederick

they have to report it before they do it…you know for optics

Last edited 24 days ago by patfrederick
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Exactly. The evil media setting up the alibi for the murder.

TradeBait2

Good follow-up, friend.

Who didn’t see this coming?

kalbokalbs

Believable coincidence if it happens, again.

pgroup2

He better start getting pumped up so he has a chance to avoid being Epsteined.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

He won’t make it that far, IMO. Suicide coming.

Gail Combs

YUP! He knows too much!

GA/FL

PAVACA’s post @QTH today is a must read!

My take – the gain of function on the Covid virus grafted features of both HIV and Monkeypox into the SARSII Coronavirus.

These people – the Fauci crowd and the Pharmaceutical companies – particularly Pfizer are killers – as are the Hospital Corporations and Health ‘authorities’ and colleges and school systems that mandate these damned killer vaccines.

Hopefully, RFKJr and Trump can change all this.

pat frederick

pgroup2

Kamala Harris: “If someone comes in my house, they are getting shot. …”

Only if the walkway to her door isn’t sloped.

pat frederick

zephyrbreeze
September 20, 2024 6:58 am

DEVELOPING: In 2018 a man named Jonathan Oddi who claimed he was Sean Diddy Combs ‘sex slave’ shot up the inside of Trump’s National Doral Golf Club and was taken into custody by the police after opening fire.
Johnathan also claimed that Rick Ross, Dj Khalid and Diddy were secretly gay. The indictment that was unsealed today claims Diddy would force women to have intercourse with his male ‘sex workers.’ I wasn’t joking when I said EVERYTHING is CONNECTED.
See the video clip:
https://x.com/dom_lucre/status/1836237953137246285

kalbokalbs

pat frederick