“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
This Comfy Q Tree Saturday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KMAG/KAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).
Come on up and find a comfy spot.
Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. But please keep it civil.
Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.
Remember…your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU.
Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
……………………………………………………………….
For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition by James Paget, titled ‘Flight of the Swallows’:
Visual Descriptions for our dear Zoe, and for anyone else who may find them helpful: Header Image: Is a view of a gigantic Tree that dwarfs everything around it. Even though it is in the distance, it still looks huge. There are outcroppings of it’s bark that form ledges and there appear to be tiny figures on one of the ledges, headed for an opening in the massive trunk. A few gnarled outgrowths that may be roots are growing out of the trunk, with a large one growing down into the ground, perhaps serving as a support.
There is a stream running beside the Tree and in the far distance is a lake. Beyond that, are mountains with light coming up from behind them, casting a golden glow on everything. The sky is kind of hazy with a few windblown loosely formed clouds overhead. Second Image: A stone pathway leads up to tall double doors, built into the side of an enormous tree trunk. The doors are arched and covered in ornate carvings. There are a few small points of light in the doors, giving off a slight blue glow. Rays of sunlight illuminate the path in front of the doors. Third Image: Is an open-sided room with a view of treetops. There is a warm glow coming from a wood-burning stove and a comfy looking couch. Nearby is a rustic table and chair, a bed covered in fluffy fur throws and a hot tub in the corner overlooking the mountain vistas.* A large tree trunk and branches support the rustic ceiling…and tree branches form the railing along the side deck. (*H/t to Teagan.) Fourth Image: President Trump has his back to us and is facing a gaggle of press curs across the lawn. He is holding up his right hand at shoulder level and making a fist…perhaps a signal that he is going in.
This Night before Daughn Thursday 20191017 Open Thread is officially Open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG! You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it. Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM. Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible. Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven. SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT! “I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules: •1.No food fights. •2.No running with scissors. •3.If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone
Join me in Dallas, Texas this Thursday (October 17th) at the American Airlines Center! #KAG2020
This Merry Warrior Monday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA-KMAG-KAG! world.
Yes, it’s Monday…again.
But it’s okay! We’ll get through it.
Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. But please keep it civil.
Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.
Remember…your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU.
Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
……………………………………………………………….
For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition by Paul Dinletir of Audiomachine, titled ‘Seeds of Promise’:
This Cozy Q Tree Saturday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KMAG/KAG world.
Take the elevator up….
And find a comfy spot.
Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. But please keep it civil.
Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.
PLEASE SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!
“I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
…………………………………………………………………..
For your listening enjoyment, I offer this mix of two compositions from Demented Sound Mafia, titled ‘Come Back Home’ and ‘One Fine Day’:
Visual descriptions for dear Zoe and any others who may find them helpful:
Header Image: The view is of the base of a large moss-covered Tree with a doorway, deep in a mossy forest. There are narrow double doors of dark brown wood that are framed in a lighter wood, with a carved trefoil arch at the top. There is a small flight of stone and brick steps leading up to the door, with a trickle of water down one side of the steps.
A carriage light fixture is attached to the side of the Tree near the door, with a wrought-iron bracket. It is shining brightly, lighting the door and stairway. Behind the Tree there is a soft filtered light illuminating the forest floor and the bright green moss that covers the ground and surrounding trees. First Image: Is a small round wooden elevator with a couple of fold-down jumpseats inside. There is ornate metal scrollwork on the door entrance, and a sliding metal door. Second Image: Is an open-sided room with a view of the treetops. There are over-stuffed couches covered in throw pillows, with lots of lanterns placed around giving off a soft glow. The ceiling is supported by gnarly tree trunks and the railing along the open side is made up of bark-covered branches. Third Image: President Trump is facing down the unruly gaggle of hostile press curs. They are kept outside now because they refuse to become house-trained and have continued to shit on the carpets.
a guest post by our dear house guardian Suspicious Cat
NOTE FROM WOLF: This post may require some explanation.
After allowing my somewhat mythical and somewhat not mythical sister Fox Moon to have her guest post, our dear pet Suspicious Cat has demanded to have his post, too.
You see, Suspicious Cat considers himself to be NORMAL CAT, and the rest of us to be DUPEY HUMANS, HUMAN SHEEP, or TALL DUMB DOGS, depending upon how stupid we are about things. He just thinks that humans are the best deal he’s going to get, so he’s “covering the downside” by watching out for us. And OH YEAH, he would vote for TRUMP if Democrats would let him.
Anyway, Suspicious Cat thought I made an exceptionally cat-like, albeit “incomplete like quantum mechanics” thread on Twitter, and he’s demanding to post it here, since he knows that my Twitter account is highly throttled and shadow-banned by other Dupey, Sheep-Like, Tall, Dumb Dogs. So here you go. Enjoy being lectured by a mouthy pet who thinks even the Watch Dog is an idiot.
W
PART 1: Hanlon’s Dull Razor
Thanks, Wolf. I’ll take it from here.
Wolf made an interesting thread on Twitter yesterday, and I’d like to begin there. Actually, it started with his Twitter friend Girl Grimly, who noticed Maggie Haberman “playing dumb” on Trump’s strategy vis-a-vis Turkey, Erdogan and Syrian withdrawal.
You will notice that there is a typically human non-sequitur here – “You cannot possibly be this stupid.” followed almost directly by “The globalist DC establishment is stupid.“
Just like what happened repeatedly with that smarter human named Einstein, this very bright young lady “had it right the first time“.
They cannot possibly be this stupid.
Smart people are remarkably easy to fool. Particularly if you tell them they’re SMART. After that, you can deceive them in all kinds of ways. Trust me – I’m a PET. Laziest, most deceptive job on Earth. I know how this works.
Normally, Wolf doesn’t catch onto this stuff, but for some reason, this time he did. So here is what Wolf said in response. We will start from the top using IMAGES – not tweets, because eventually Girl Grimly will be banned from Twitter, and only the DNC and CIA will have access to her wisdom.
See how that works? And you people are STILL ON TWITTER. Ridiculous.
To which Wolf said (with ZERO engagement, of course)….
Social media for humans to vent, in combination with Fake News playing dumb, is an amazing control tool to keep humans in the kiddie pool. In a normal world run by household pets like me, Maggie Haberman would have been fired long ago for this crap. But she’s actually a pet to her masters, and she is intellectually lazy – ON COMMAND – to get her treats.
It really is “fake news”. It’s a way of controlling people. It is NOT real news. It’s a kind of movable jail without bars.
Anyway, despite the fact that nobody is ever going to see his postings on Twitter, Wolf rather stupidly kept yelling into the void.
Wolf made this point before – LOST in the void of TWITTER.
Thomas Wictor likes to use Hanlon’s Razor, and while Thomas is a smart person, remember what I said – SMART PEOPLE are among the easiest to fool.
Wolf’s explanation of the fallacy follows:
Wolf’s corrected maxim, “Stupidity is likely to explain misfortune where deception is highly unlikely.“, accounts for the intriguing fact that the smarter and more capable the deceiver is, relative to the deceived, the EASIER it is to rely on deception, which in the case in question would mean PLAYING DUMB. This is why deception has to be not just unlikely, but HIGHLY UNLIKELY, for Hanlon’s Razor to even BEGIN making sense. Otherwise, Hanlon’s Razor is BACKWARDS thinking.
Hanlon’s Razor….
“Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”
….is problematic because YOUR stupidity matters even more than the PRESUMED stupidity of the potential perpetrator of “whatever”. If the other party is smarter than YOU, then they can simply FEIGN STUPIDITY and you will TAKE THE BAIT.
They have ACHIEVED COVER.
I really have to admire the remarkable LULLING that Hanlon’s Razor accomplishes. To REMEMBER this deceitful malaphorism PROPERLY, remember it being whispered into a foolish king’s ear by your tribe’s mortal enemy, whoever that may be.
“I beg of thee, your Highness – remember thy own wisdom, as I have remembered it, and dare I say been served so well by such wise thought – that we must never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”
“Oh, NOES! NEVAH!”
Sheesh.
THE CHUMPHOOD. IT BURNS.
Let’s go on.
Wolf hadn’t noticed this part about “malice”, THE LAST TIME he woke up on Hanlon’s Razor, only to be lulled back into “compliance”. I’m very glad he spotted it, because the “malice” part ALWAYS grated on my nerves.
Malice is a diversion – a presumption – a shiny object – a distraction.
The sleight of hand of asserting MALICE helps to sell the LIE that is Hanlon’s Razor.
If you’ve ever dealt with real criminals, like my previous owners (yes, I’m a rescue), then you understand that they are malicious about as often as good people. They just follow a simple rule:
“The rules don’t matter if I don’t get caught breaking them.”
Crooks are actually somewhat lovable people. They have reasons for breaking the rules, just like others have reasons for following them. Malice is rarely part of the equation.
It’s hilarious, but there should be a FULL STOP in Hanlon’s Razor, the absence of which almost argues for its diabolical intelligence. We’ll use a different form that shows it more clearly:
“Never assume malice when stupidity will do.”
But look at it this far:
“Never assume malice….”
“WAYUL SURPRISE, SURPRISE, SURPRISE!”
You just assumed malice, as DIRECTED by the PROGRAMMING of the assertion.
Take a look at how this looks from the “perp side of the con job”….
“Never assume malice, but you just did, and your stupidity will do.”
Are you seeing this? I hope so. It really is time for you tall dogs to grow the XXXX up.
Let’s go on.
Wolf is onto the key point. Hanlon’s Razor is very useful for DELUDED SHEEP to keep themselves in line.
“Don’t worry about that bloody spot. Nobody was malicious! Somebody was just stupid!”
Do you see how this has the wonderfully deceptive property of being “not even wrong“, due to the false attribution of malicious intent from the start?
SIDEBAR:
Has anybody studied the theory of “dead-endedness” of theories, or of theoretical approaches? Would older civilizations have discovered this idea first? Would they be tempted to – well – use it, for – say – “mutual benefit”?
Just theoretically. Since we’re all talking about deception.
Think about it.
Suspicious Cat
So let’s bring this back to something we can remember and carry with us at all times.
And I’m not going to let you go to the water fountains from hour 1 of this class without some homework.
The link won’t work in the tweet image. Try these links. FIRST, a variety of translations of Matthew 10:16.
SO, go take a break, and come back to the next step – how to GO BEYOND the Mamet Principle, using Hanlon’s Broken Razor as a BEATER SCREWDRIVER.
PART 2: Beyond The Mamet Principle
OK, class. There is a reason that we’re back here.
We need to bust not just one, but TWO ideas. The problem is, the second one is actually EXTREMELY useful as a “spotting scope”, but it is NOT accurate as a RANGE-FINDER.
What I am talking about is the Mamet principle, something which was LOOSELY stated by liberal-turned-conservative playwright David Mamet.
“In order to continue advancing their illogical arguments modern liberals have to pretend not to know things…”
Sundance, paraphrasing David Mamet in his book “The Secret Knowledge”
Wolf was taught this idea by SUNDANCE at The Last Refuge. Sundance uses it A LOT. Wolf LOVES it. So much so, that he made that MEME above, which alludes to the Mamet Principle using the idea that liberals utterly ignore Uranium One and the payoffs that Hillary Clinton received, to the tune of 146 million dollars. Liberals who still support Hillary Clinton LITERALLY pretend that these things didn’t happen, and/or don’t matter. The meme is designed to make liberals UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE PRETENSE.
For some background on the Mamet Principle, [Go Deep] here:
Now, recently, Wolf started to WAKE UP on an idea – the idea that one can USE the Mamet Principle like ALGEBRA to SOLVE for what liberals are ACTUALLY DOING.
This is sometimes a scary thought, as you will see. When liberals PRETEND things, it is comfortable to think that they’re just being ILLOGICAL. What is NOT comfortable is realizing that they are actually pursuing something, and that their LIES are actually LOGICAL in that pursuit.
It is very important to DIVORCE the “brain-dead fronts” themselves from the liberal propaganda. Maxine Waters and Beto O’Rourke may be fronting the illogic, but if you let them personify it, you may have trouble appreciating the STALIN or the BERIA or the HOLDER or the AXELROD behind it.
Here is Wolf on Twitter again, as he was starting to see this. Let’s track his understanding as it grows.
The left pretends not to know that shutting down THEIR AntiFa is key to solving the political violence. #Charlottesville#MametPrinciple
You can see here that Wolf was starting to get beyond the illogic – to see their LOGIC. The leftists WANT the political violence. That is a HARD PILL TO SWALLOW. It means they’re BOLSHEVIKS. It is much easier – much more comfortable – to think they’re stupid.
Their IDEAS and LYING GOALS interpreted at face value may be illogical, but the PEOPLE are not. Perhaps the “brain-dead fronts” who PARROT the ideas are illogical and stupid, but NOT the people behind the situation.
THEY HAVE A PLAN.
Now look at this two-tweet response to Thomas Wictor. You have to follow it to Twitter, to see Thomas’s “missing” tweets, all nice and linked up in a row and weirdly accounted for, yet somehow invisible. It is extremely reasonable to presume that Thomas’s TWEET DATA is still on Twitter, usable by DNC and CIA. But WE cannot see it.
It's the Mamet Principle on mega-steroids. Liberals pretend not to know.
Kristin Welker’s FACE says more than 1000 words could possibly tell us.
THEY KNOW. THEY ARE NOT STUPID. It is not illogic. WE are the ones who are being illogical about THEM. We are not admitting that this Fake News Media is absolutely NOT ON OUR SIDE – meaning HUMANITY AS WE KNOW IT – and must be UTTERLY REJECTED.
Don’t assume THEY are stupid. Look hard. Look deep. Be humble. Who is REALLY being stupid? It is only by adopting THIS attitude that we can EVICT THEM from our lives.
Consider how the media CONSCIOUSLY slanders and CONSCIOUSLY psy-ops us, while simply pretending they are not. It’s worse than phony. It’s literally CRIMINAL but they get away with it by HIDING MALICE.
Here, Wolf talks about another Wolff, that horrible author of lies and malicious slander, who “pretends not to know” that he publishes assault garbage for a political agenda. Wolf also lays into another bad practice of the left in the publishing world, while he’s at it.
The left can stop almost any book they want, LONG before it goes to press. They STEAL pitches and give them to favorites like Chelsea Clinton. But by pretending not to know it's BS (Mamet principle), they can let psy-op slander move all the way to their #FakeNews talk cycles.
Perhaps the best place that Wolf actually put his new realization to use, as he was developing it, was PARKLAND. The entire operation depended on MASSIVE PRETENSE OF IGNORANCE.
Here is the first tweet of Wolf’s LONG THREAD on it.
This is in many ways a restatement of the Mamet Principle, but it shows that at the upper echelons of leftist thought, the pretense of ignorance is used in a highly strategic manner to achieve "social justice "goals. This can and will be demonstrated by deconstructing #Parkland. https://t.co/Do2u14C6QG
It turned out that the situation was even WORSE than that.
Wolf LATER applied the Mamet Principle, and seeing beyond it, to Twitter’s shadowbanning of conservatives. Another long thread HERE:
Part of the reason we're winning is that we actually try to understand things – for example, Twitter. The left has no clue – and doesn't REALLY try to get one. Observe this leftist troll, one Bradley "I block Nazis" Duke, who thinks he understands shadowbanning, but doesn't. pic.twitter.com/mgIfZTj7IS
Here is where Wolf was starting to see the connection to Hanlon’s Razor:
Mamet principle – leftists "pretending not to know" that their STUPID actions will have the INTENDED evil consequences. Note to all rational conservatives: Leftists figured out LONG AGO that the old saw "Never attribute to malice yada yada yada" is some of the best cover EVER. https://t.co/NTkuUEj5Tgpic.twitter.com/JdSE8X0rc4
Most recently, Wolf applied this idea of “logical lies behind Mamet principle apparent illogic” in dealing with a troll, who formed part of a three-way “conversation” (sort of) with Girl Grimly:
Appreciate the support, @ed_grimly! That boy is a perfect example of what @TheLastRefuge2 calls the Mamet Principle – David Mamet's contention that leftists feign ignorance to advance illogical arguments. I take it one step further. The illogic is a byproduct of hidden LIES. pic.twitter.com/fSNqaXmMPm
The hard thing to accept is that there are many on the other side who are more or less beyond redemption. We can influence those on the left who have accepted leftist positions due to many positive motivations, but not those who are deceptive by nature and fully love the lie. pic.twitter.com/AUsqYfK3RI
It’s very simple. DO NOT assume that the leftists are stupid. Yes, some of them ARE stupid, and THEY are the ones who make excellent FRONTS – a deception that buys time and opportunity for the more devious leftists.
When liberals “pretend not to know things”, don’t stop there. They are PLAYING STUPID or fronting a stupid position, but it is not the REAL position. Their stated goals are not the REAL goals.
FIND the real goals and STOP THEM from getting there.
Here is an actual plan of action.
when you hear illogic, realize that they pretend not to know
ask yourself why they would LOGICALLY do what they do
figure out what the LIE actually is, and WHY they are lying
explain the lie OPENLY to truth-tellers, to DISARM the left
work with other truth-tellers to END the source of the illogic
A perfect example of this technique, is how we shut down the Obama-Holder “Promise Programs” that were destroying due process (Trayvon Martin) and creating propaganda such as the Parkland massacre. The left had pretended not to know what was happening. We had to figure out what WAS happening – what the LIES actually were – and then STATE THEM OPENLY.
It was identifying the CONSPIRACY OF FEIGNED STUPIDITY and LIES behind #Parkland that put the Promise Programs in jeopardy.
find the indefensible reality behind the lies and illogic
accuse the left openly of the indefensible reality
This Merry Warrior Monday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA-KMAG-KAG! world.
Yes, it’s Monday…again.
But it’s okay! We’ll get through it.
Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. But please keep it civil.
Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.
PLEASE SPEAK FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!
“I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
………………………………………………………….
For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition by James Paget, titled ‘Possibilities’:
I keep shilling this book that I love to criticize as a CIA cover-up, but my motivation isn’t just because if you read it backwards and inside-out, it’s like a roadmap to REAL MK, and its amazing tale of [re]discovery.
It is also a testament to the GENIUS of Sidney Gottlieb, who scapegoated his brilliant early project to save the final result.
And if only the socialist ASSHOLES who inherited it hadn’t killed 58 people in Las Vegas using this stuff, I would not be enlightening everybody as to what the heck is going on.
But then, it is rapidly becoming apparent to me that Kinzer’s book, STRAIGHT OUT OF THE FAILING NEW YORK TIMES, is a desperate attempt at CYA by the socialist / “whatever” Deep State to cover up recent ABUSES of MK ULTRA, in their DESPERATE attempts to remove President Trump.
DON’T. TURN. AWAY.
Yes. Courtesy of those who very soon “won’t be able to walk the streets”, as SOMEBODY PUT IT.
So let’s get back to the topic at hand.
I was at 25% of the way through this book when I made my LAST update. Well, guess what – I am now at 28% and I’ve got another huge post.
I keep telling people – GET THIS BOOK!
So what is the big deal here? What is in the magical “3%” that blew my mind?
THREE THINGS.
First off, this.
It is becoming clear to me that, FAR from some hodgepodge program of desperate grabs for anything “mind control”, MK ULTRA was SMART SHOPPING by a SMART SCIENTIST.
Now, why would I come to this assessment, against all the disinformation and shill messaging to the contrary?
Well, mostly because (1) I’ve been inside scientific research, so I know how quality investigation looks from the inside, but (2) I’ve been OUTSIDE of scientific research, thus able to LOOK IN, and (3) I’m a huge devotee of the HISTORY OF MODERN SCIENCE, and view it as not just worthy in itself, but essential for young scientists, to develop a healthy and moral outlook, understanding the need for openness and honesty above all else.
EVERY TIME that Kinzer points out some new subproject of MK ULTRA, I just have to marvel at how SMART Sidney Gottlieb was in going after what MK ULTRA would eventually become.
It’s ALL RATIONAL, FOLKS. It all makes SENSE.
Yes, if you take any one of his highly compartmentalized, funded projects by itself, it may look like a bit of a WTF in the pursuit of MK. The thing is, *I* know what the final product looked like – remarkably similar to exactly what Sidney Gottlieb was pursuing. So I look at all the pieces, and I see that they are SMART PIECES.
The kind of mental dissociation I experienced – exact as a scalpel – precise as a laser – part of a complex whole that allowed a fantastic “surgery of the mind” – in frigging 1981 – I mean I can see every part of MK ULTRA research leading RIGHT TO IT. If it were not for a “medical error” – or more truthfully a compounding of them – ONE TIME – we would not be having this conversation.
ONE FRIGGING MOLECULE – a stray thought that I had, as part of an “error of subject consciousness” – was all it took to eventually reveal Sidney Gottlieb’s genius achievement.
Second point.
It is clear to me that Kinzer is relying on leftist, NYT, Deep State, CIA, Fake News memes and viewpoints in his interpretation of this stuff. We are talking what might be called “Charlottesville narrative viewpoint”. This is where you show people two hoops, black and white, and they jump through black “because black”. You show them male and female and they jump through female “because wymyn”. You show them whatever the left has said – possibly without openly saying – is the preferred hoop, and they jump through it.
CONDITIONED RESPONSE.
It is impossible to see the world clearly if you have conditioned PC blind spots of right or left. It takes PRACTICE to get around them – to RESIST them.
This is something that makes true free speech a real gift.
I can THINK all sorts of possibilities because of it. Many of which ALMOST NOBODY can think of.
Most of you out there will agree with the idea that Israel’s future and well-being depend on AMERICA. But how many of you can see that AMERICA’S future and well-being depend on ISRAEL?
Most of you will automatically look at the MK ULTRA criminal drug volunteers in prison as victims. I can do that, easily. But how many of you can view them as heroes?
Most of you, whether you will admit it or not, have been so bombarded with the idea that black people are less intelligent than whites, using all sorts of metrics, that you undoubtedly suspect at some level that it might be true. But I will assure you – if you start looking to discover why it might not be true – and I don’t mean in a virtue signal way – NONE of the stuff that the Deep State and controlled left offer on this – you will be led to SHOCKING realizations on the nature of intelligence itself, and how it is defined, expressed, perceived, and how it perceives US. You may at first by disturbed by things, but – trust me – you will eventually be comforted. This stuff was well-designed at the most basic levels. There is CONSERVATION and SYMMETRY that make it all work out BEAUTIFULLY.
FREEING YOUR MIND TO SEE ALL SIDES TOGETHER IS TOUGH. But that is the only way to have a MORE GODLY [notice I did not say “god-like”] view of the universe.
SO – with that hopeful MIND JOLT, let’s go on.
Third point.
Whitey Bulger was an MK ULTRA volunteer.
Yes.
In 1957, when Bulger was just a twenty-something armed robbery thug, but not yet a murderer, imprisoned in the Atlanta federal penitentiary, he was RECRUITED to be an MK ULTRA volunteer. He thought it was ONLY a medical project looking for a cure for schizophrenia. It may have been that, but we now know so much more about it.
The details are interesting, as are details from other volunteers. It is clear that there was a lot of wheedling done to get people to stay in these mind-bending programs. One participant endured terrible high doses of LSD just to get a promised shot of HEROIN.
Bulger was told he was one of the best subjects. However, I get the impression that all the docs told that to all the boys, so to speak. Bet the nurses were pretty fine-lookin’ ladies, too.
Hey – I’ve been around the block. I wasn’t born yesterday, either.
Bulger’s own previous memoirs are cited by Kinzer, so this is totally confirmed stuff.
This is an astounding bit of information, but it makes sense. Maybe it’s been out there for a while, but it was news to me.
And HERE is where I get to thank “principles” from history which first connected Adolph Hitler with Saddam Hussein, and ultimately with Barack “By The Book” Obama.
I believe LEGAL CONSENT and LEGALISMS are part and parcel of the CHOOSING of people to study, test, use and abuse (and then get utterly lost in) the “MK world of human bottery”.
SO – just because Bulger is known to have been part of the LSD experimentation, does NOT mean that it all ends there. I may find out more in the remaining 72% of the Kinzer book. Or I may find out more from other sources.
REMEMBER – part of the overall MK project – which we KNOW from Sidney Gottlieb – was the desire to know if people could do things, up to and including KILLING PEOPLE – maybe OTHER PEOPLE – maybe THEMSELVES.
Can you think of a BETTER reason to get rid of Whitey Bulger NOW? What information might he have revealed – in a BELIEVABLE WAY – about MK ULTRA and its GOALS?
If you read Kinzer’s book, then you may very well ask yourself if these goals ever went away.
If you read my posts here, then you may very well ask yourself if these goals were achieved.
Our wolf sentries at the door are quite friendly…just give them the password, “Q”, and they will let you pass.
This Cozy Q Tree Saturday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KMAG/KAG world.
Come on in and get comfy:
Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. But please keep it civil. Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.
SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!
“I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
……………………………………………………………
For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition by Max Hulick for the Mass Effect video games:
Visual descriptions for our dear Zoe, and for anyone else who may find them helpful: Top Image: Is an illustration of the base a huge Tree with double doors inside a pointed arch. There are two beautiful white wolves standing guard on either side of the doors. The doors have a carved medallion near the top with simple geometric shapes within it. The leaves on the tree are orange and starting to fall, indicating this is in autumn. There is a mist hanging in the air, in the surrounding forest. Second Image: Is a cozy interior view of a stairway against the wall leading down into large area with overstuffed chairs and soft lighting. There is a bannister made of winding tree branches. Throw pillows and throw rugs add to the comfy atmosphere. Third Image: President Trump is sitting at his desk in the oval office, reading some papers. Sunlight is streaming in from one of the windows behind him, illuminating both him and the papers he is holding. An aide is standing beside the desk, and looks like he is waiting for President Trump to read what he is looking at.
………………………………………………………………….
Celtic Metal? Yeah, it’s a thing. How about some Lords of Iron:
I had no idea that Justin Raimondo had died. I was wondering why I never saw his tweets any more. Usually it was REPLIES to famous people, sometimes as retweets, where Justin would show up in my Twitter feed. SMART, insightful, replies or retweets, taking people to task for positions that were going to get us into another Vietnam, Iraq, or Afghanistan.
I quickly scanned down his old timeline. It has been fully taken over by the staff at AntiWar, who now bring back some of Justin’s old columns, and keep his memory alive.
One of the tweets led me to this great article.
Well worth a read. Particularly if you believe my almost unbelievable theory that Justin’s strong and unwavering support of Trump, and his influence over the “intellectual libertarian and antiwar” segment of the potential Trump bloc, was ESSENTIAL to Trump’s victory in 2016.
The first place I ever read this guy was some guest column on WorldNetDaily during the Clinton administration. Justin was a gay conservative who looked like “the Fonz” and had his own website (kind of a big deal back then) called “AntiWar.com“. Well, it wasn’t really “his” site, but he was the Freddie Mercury of AntiWar. It sometimes SEEMED like his site. And yet, it was all about ANTI-WAR – not about him.
Justin was respected by Joseph Farah of WND – and that was enough for me. I paid attention. Justin and Joseph didn’t always agree, but they both cared enough to agree or disagree with each other, outside the stifling chorus of UniParty shills who kept up the FAKE NEWS that neither one had time for.
One of Justin’s best articles – the one that I never forgot – was the one where he took the entire LGBT movement to task for calling gay “normal”. His position was utterly logical. Gays have rights like everybody else, but the reason they are a minority – and a small one at that – is because they are FAR from “normal”. To call gays “normal” was, to him, robbing the very essence of what gays were – DIFFERENT. It was not just illogical to Justin to try to “normalize” gayness – it was DISHONEST.
See why I might like this guy? BRUTAL honesty – even with himself.
But “gay” was not the big issue to Justin. It was a minor aspect of his life – a reality that he simply dealt with, and accepted as a libertarian. The big issue for Justin Raimondo was WAR. But NOT as a typical libertarian. Raimondo was – oddly – very conservative for a libertarian, more so for a gay one. Justin was also too tough to be a simple peacenik, yet he wasn’t one of those horrible “bully pacifists”, either. He considered himself a “conservative paleo-libertarian” – which I interpret as going back to the most “limited government and keep the HELL out of foreign entanglements” people of all – the FOUNDERS.
And Raimondo had that same SPUNK that the Founders did. A kind of patient and determined yet hopeful RELENTLESSNESS – a refusal to give up. In that era, he would have fought alongside my own DAR ancestor against the British. He would have simply kept his “odd affections” a secret. Well, who knows. Maybe not. But he would have been a PATRIOT either way.
And YES, the idea of an ANTI-WAR patriot is somewhat contradictory, but then, so much of this nation’s founding BRILLIANCE was contradictory – back when were had discernment, and didn’t all have to believe exactly the same things to be patriotic Americans.
Justin was very similar to Ron Paul, Rand Paul, Pat Buchanan, and other libertarians and paleo-conservatives on the idea of war. And – unlike me – he was NOT FOOLED by the Bush clan.
But after George W. Bush, Justin would make the same mistake as me – voting for Obama in 2008. I think we did it for the same reason. McCain was itching to get us into a war. We both knew it. McCain helped sell Obama – exactly as intended.
Justin was a TRUMP supporter from the beginning, too, because he remembered Trump’s stand on IRAQ. This is EXACTLY where I was, too. There were many times that I retweeted Justin in his defenses of Trump, or tried to echo his wisdom to my followers.
And Raimondo was NOT A FAN of Crooked Hillary. NOT AT ALL.
Justin was a WEE bit too automatically defensive of Russia for my taste, but he was not a dupe. I could respect him when his anti-war knee jerked in time with the Kremlin’s, because I knew it was still under his control.
There were, however, times that I strategically backed Trump on bringing neocons into his campaign or administration, which is something Justin could never stand. Justin could NEVER believe that association with John Bolton was a good idea, even merely as a spokesperson and media ally of Trump. However, Justin was a kind soul, and he simply held his tongue when I tried to convince him that it would all be OK – that Trump could handle Bolton.
The thing is, I don’t think Justin TRUSTED Trump in the same way I did, and that fact is, at its core, probably RELIGIOUS. Trump, Pence, myself, and most other Trumpers TRUST GOD TOGETHER, so we tend to TRUST EACH OTHER. That makes a HUGE DIFFERENCE.
Justin was raised a Roman Catholic, but he later described himself as “not a believer”, per Wikipedia.
However, if one goes back to THIS article about Pope John Paul II, and gives it a read……
…..one sees a few hints that “you can take the boy out of the church, but you can’t take the church out of the boy“.
So who knows. I would love to once again have the opportunity to celebrate the amazing, glorious, common-sense and ANTI-WAR Trump administration with Justin Raimondo on some ethereal form of Twitter.
After all, they say that with God, all things are possible.
In this post, I will shift around between three points of view:
The Stephen Kinzer (NYT) book entitled “Poisoner In Chief” – a restated CIA cover-up of ACTUAL progress on mind control, adjusted for new disclosure losses on MK, and blamecasting MK away from socialism and socialists, both foreign and domestic
The Adam and Melissa Dykes film about MK ULTRA centering on the human experimentation aspects, but also unaware of ACTUAL progress in practical programming of human beings through drugs and hypnosis.
This is some major dot-connecting. While I don’t have all the answers I want, I believe that I am closer to understanding past and current black hat MK abilities.
Relevant Bible Verse:
The man who sets a trap for others will get caught in it himself. Roll a boulder down on someone, and it will roll back and crush you. Proverbs 26:27
I begin this update on my search for TRUTH about MK (mind control) with a series of four tweets, three of which Twitter will NEVER let anybody see. OK – maybe a few people. Enough for COVER.
We begin with Sara Carter retweeting one of her old tweets.
#AMNESIA?@AGLynch, fmr AG Loretta Lynch told Congressional lawmakers in closed door testimony that despite the #DOJ having approved the @FBI warrant and renewals to spy on #CarterPage, she did not recall the applications nor any details.
You see – I am reading the new Kinzer book on Sidney Gottlieb and MK ULTRA at this very moment.
Anybody who reads this book will understand – amnesia was and undoubtedly remains a “holy grail” of the CIA. The problem is that Kinzer – at least from what I’ve seen of the book – never got access to anything or anybody which violated the “MK ULTRA Failure and Abandonment Narrative” (MUFAN for short, no pun intended, OK, maybe just a little).
And – if he did – he would only try to disprove it. The signs of a CIA water-carrier are all over this one.
MUFAN is wickedly hard to get around if you don’t have both data and persistence, but if you DO have them, then MUFAN is pretty much impossible to accept. And THAT is where DA WOOF is right now.
Well, I could not help commenting into /dev/mulder, so to speak. Check out who else was on the thread, thanks to Sara’s tagging – both Loretta Lynch and the FBI.
Read the new Kinzer book on the history of MK ULTRA, but drop his updated, LSD-centric whitewash/distraction agreement with the "cover failure" of the earlier chaff release. Drug/hypnotic amnesia is admitted by Kinzer/CIA as one of the top holy grails of IC. Trust me, it works. pic.twitter.com/Zj52ZRyU8L
Then I decided to really start laying it down – though gently. Note my very cryptic use of the date rather than to just spell things out. Credibility. I push RIGHT to the edge.
There are failures possible when the protocol is not rigidly followed, but Sid and colleagues deserve a lot more credit than getting thrown under the bus. Ask WHY people would go to the lengths they did. Kinzer & Dykes (The Minds of Men) don't frame MK in its full 1947 motive.
Now if you watch “The Minds of Men” (see below), you will see that the interest in the subject of mind control which preceded 1947 has meaning, but that meaning is most easily understood in the big picture by STILL referencing 1947 – to be really cagey about things. You’ll see.
Then we go for the finale, bringing it back to Loretta Lynch.
As for more common abuses of IC, there is no more beautiful obstruction of justice than making sure witnesses honestly can't remember stuff they honestly don't WANT to remember. The chimp chorus sanity-signals to the fake reality of no God, but sometimes holy grails are found.
I honestly have mixed feelings about waking up Loretta from her innocent bliss of ignorance granted by the technology, but we cannot truly forgive without remembrance – even if we truly forget. In the end, we will all come out of this better if we accept the fact that we have sinned.
So – WHERE WAS I?
Ah, yes. Reporting on what I’m learning about REAL MK.
In the book
POISONER IN CHIEF,
CIA chemist Sidney Gottlieb, is reintroduced in his classic role as willing scapegoat. The TRICK, however, is that he’s not covering up failure – he’s covering up SUCCESS.
In a cover-up which works by fake betrayal of the original project, calling it a loser and a fraud that grifted the world, somebody has to play Judas. Gottlieb, weirdly, also plays Christ. The man who was most responsible for the TECHNICAL aspects of MK work, and probably least responsible for the “wet works” dirty trade-craft aspects of sentencing victims to terminal human experimentation, other than carrying out the sentences (presumably by drug overdoses), takes on all of the CIA’s sins. Safely dead, with all of the “medical errors” of early MK research dead along with him, things can now be wrapped up as “the sorry history of Sidney Gottlieb“, thrown out, and the whole forgotten and/or forgiven, while the Mengelian fruit of the effort – WORKING MK – neatly persists in secret.
The problem? FRESH SINS. Once the AMERICAN PEOPLE themselves began to wake up, and became an OPEN THREAT to the socialist occupation by our own CIA, fronted through the failing New York Times and the rest of our FAKE NEWS, it was only a matter of time until they turned the guns on us. While FAKING that we – the “Bad Americans” – are the ultimate problem.
After El Paso and Dayton, I have no reason to believe – NONE – that the MK technology will not continue to be used against American citizens – over and over and over again – into the future. Socialist politics cannot let go of any tool which keeps its minority viewpoint in power. The only way to STOP it is to reveal until we BURN THE ABUSERS TO CINDERS.
Pushing back against Kinzer’s sleazy update of the KGB-CIA’s mind control firewall known as the MK ULTRA chaff release is part of that process.
While I’m showing you the El Paso shooter and one of his handlers in the above picture, where MK aspects are only hinted at, through the FATHER of the suspect / patsy, it is the DAYTON killings that have all the hallmarks of intense MK usage.
Not only is there a highly classified DARPA contractor angle on the father and mother – not only is there satanic sexual stuff all over the shooter (one of THE best motivators for MK violence) – there is TRANS on the sister, which obeys the economy of events principle. While I have not yet discussed the important MK aspects of TRANS in great detail, I can assure you that the psychology and biology of “transgendering” have been long-researched by those who are “transforming” humanity. There is a DEEP connection between individual MK and covert psychological research in THE PAST, and the current public mass psychology of the TRANS agenda. Research first – mass action later. That’s how they keep it seamless.
And I would be remiss not to leave this beautiful clue here for everybody. The shooter’s sister, Megan Betts, a.k.a. Jordan Cofer (her toe-in-the-water “trans” name), was studying earth sciences at Wright State University, and….
….hoped to someday work for NASA on EXO – specifically “exploring the viability of life on other planets”.
Poor, dumb, smart girl. She never knew what hit her.
Yeah. Don’t expect this one to go back in the box.
So where was I? Ah, yes.
The Kinzer book is heavy on details about MK from the viewpoint of Sidney Gottlieb and the “official” combined “fake news” history of mind control. It is everything that the CIA wants you to believe, to their supposed eternal embarrassment.
What happened with MUFAN (reminding you again – MK ULTRA Failure & Abandonment Narrative) is that the narrative was so successful, many of us actually doubted the cover narrative ITSELF as being too “woo-woo”.
We FIGHT over the reality of the REALITY STRAW MAN set before us. Think about that.
This is exactly what you want, if you’re covering something up. People are picking and choosing from limited information acting as disinformation. Many people are doubting even that limited information. However, any smart collection of ALL THE COVER combines to a cohesive whole story, and the COVER HOLDS.
Taken together, what Kinzer reveals all sounds shocking and new, but it’s not. It’s merely a kind of retro-historical cover compilation of well-known MK ULTRA narrative that seems fresh.
What Kinzer does, to make MUFAN seem new and fresh, is:
include “everything”, so there will be “new” material for every reader
increase the murderousness of it, cloaked in “Bad America” narrative (NYT gospel)
make it all center on Sidney Gottlieb as a kind of tragic American Mengele
link the CIA’s LSD “suicide” scandal to MK ULTRA and Sidney Gottlieb
play up all Nazi connections, play down all other socialist / communist connections
All of this serves to position Kinzer’s take on things as “the new definitive reality of MK ULTRA”. However, to anybody who actually experienced Gottlieb’s work first-hand, and secretly remembered (and kept DAMN quiet) how successful it actually was, it is very clear that Kinzer is simply – either knowingly, unknowingly, or somewhere in between – helping to renew MUFAN in a sturdier way that can be used to pooh-pooh future reveals as part of a now darker, sexier, and more believable MK ULTRA project failure.
Seriously, I can almost write those future pooh-poohs now.
The Kinzer book accomplishes several things as CIA-DNC-DSA-NYT propaganda:
blames early CIA anti-communist “white hats” as the origin of MK ULTRA
pooh-poohs all Soviet and Chinese brainwashing – even the term itself
pooh-poohs the very idea of “truth serum” – which I know for a FACT works
paints MK ULTRA and the experimentation that produced it as unjustified
minimizes the importance of Sidney Gottlieb being a card-carrying socialist
covers up Gottlieb’s role as a cultural Marxist – the hidden pied piper of “acid”
covers up the successful internal repurposing of CIA by KGB (a.k.a. “KGB-CIA”)
not a word about exo or post-Roswell motivations, to maintain “scoff levels”
not a word about the embedding matrix of CIA interest in CYBERNETICS
fulfills the “bad America” narrative over and over and over again
renews old, forgotten, but effective Soviet and Chinese Korean War propaganda
diverts away from scientific core principles of REAL MK using shiny objects
diverts away from the pharmacology of REAL MK using “shiny molecules”
A beautiful example of what I now call FAKE PUBLISHING.
However, as you can tell from the above, the book also GIVES AWAY MUCH:
accidentally reveals how CIA was immediately hiding MK successes from the military, something which I always suspected
reveals what was important in MK success by AVOIDING ALL MENTION
reveals current American and global socialist / cabal / “allied bad exo” goals
validates key points of my own story on MK abuse, including the larger CA3 scandal
validates the core idea of KGB-CIA’s penchant for regarding political opponents or people who simply get in the way of their projects as “expendable”
validates criminal interactions like Mueller-Bulger as normalized in the Deep State
validates the reality of DOMESTIC OPERATIONS as normalized in “bad CIA”
throws enormous shade on ANTHRAX as a key totem which appears over and over in the larger cabal story, and the story of which may be important in bringing them down
reveals that there is extreme sensitivity on SOCIALISM and CIA (a.k.a. KGB-CIA)
Based on this final list, you can see why I *highly* recommend this book, despite it being a combination of whitewash, distraction, diversion, propaganda, and cover.
Kinzer has given us a ROADMAP into socialist reliance on MK, socialist embedding in CIA, socialist abuse of CIA, and socialist weaponization of CIA. All we have to do is simply read the book BACKWARDS and INSIDE-OUT as cover-up. If you KNOW it’s a cover-up, their strategy and weaknesses just FALL OUT.
Kinzer’s over-reach on protecting socialism in America and its secret weapon – the owned, pwned, and duped-out CIA, along with their secret AND public MK weapons – is where this book really becomes valuable for most lay readers. To the astute anti-communist, knowing how the book was written and what its objectives are, the book REALLY gives away a LOT.
However, for readers interested in the TECHNICAL aspects of MK, you will be intensely interested in what is NOT FOUND in the book, and thus I recommend the KINDLE VERSION.
Search on any chemical term that you think might be used in actual MK drugged hypnosis and psychological programming – things like fentanyl, carfentanil, valium, librium, chlordiazepoxide, benzodiazepines in general, and any other agents with known aerosol induction utility or amnesic properties. Because we KNOW that benzodiazepines REVOLUTIONIZED sedation, DESPITE their amnesia-inducing side-effects. They undoubtedly revolutionized amnesia as well.
NOT. THERE.
And yet, an espionage-aware and historically skeptical reading of the literature indicates that the KEY amnesic/hypnotic drugs were discovered *accidentally* in the WEST in 1956-1957, meaning they could have EASILY been discovered a decade earlier in the Soviet Union – in novichok fashion – in time for actual brainwashing use in Korea.
Now do you believe me about how much of a HOAX the “MK ULTRA FAILURE AND ABANDONMENT NARRATIVE” actually was? The KEY DRUGS for amnesia that are never even mentioned in MUFAN – foisted on us in the mid-1970s – were found 20 years earlier – and possibly 30 years earlier in the more psychologically oriented Soviet Union.
And I’m only a quarter of the way into this book. Think about THAT.
Now – one last point about Sidney Gottlieb.
SIDNEY GOTTLIEB MAY NOT HAVE BEEN HIS ORIGINAL NAME.
Yes. Joseph Scheider may or may not have been Sidney Gottlieb’s birth name. But it was definitely used as a pseudonym.
Yeah. Are you smelling the DIAPER yet? Oh, I am smelling diaper all over this guy. Add Kinzer’s OTT defense of socialism in this book, and I’d say we have PAY DIRT.
Kinzer says that Joseph Scheider was just a pseudonym that Gottlieb used for testimony. However, Wikipedia says that Gottlieb was actually born as Joseph Scheider.
Let’s move on. This next part is what REALLY blew me away. You’ll see why, momentarily.
THE MINDS OF MEN
Aaron and Melissa Dykes, the creators of a fascinating documentary – The Minds of Men – about MK ULTRA and the larger effort within which it fell, don’t think much of the Kinzer book. This 21-minute video is worth watching to see why.
Very important to note that CIA-Bezos-WaPo-Amazon kicked this movie off of Amazon for absurd reasons. That’s how over the target this banned work actually is.
The bottom line is that the Dykes’ work shows Sidney Gottlieb to be a scapegoat of MK ULTRA. It is very likely that Gottlieb was a WILLING scapegoat, in my opinion, and this is shown by the level of responsibility he had in the project, which Kinzer points out. Gottlieb knew enough, that he knew exactly WHAT to HIDE, and HOW.
So – once you get BEYOND Sidney Gottlieb, there is MUCH, MUCH MORE. And THAT is where the documentary, The Minds of Men, goes.
This film is very much worth watching. However, I will warn you in advance, it is NOT going to leave you as any kind of happy camper. If anything, this film will leave you thinking that the Cabal’s control of the world is vast beyond correction or even restraint.
You will be taken down one rabbit hole after another, and shown that “mind control” and MK ULTRA were really just small parts of a much vaster CIA interest – CYBERNETICS.
The Wikipedia entry for Cybernetics provides a good definition, as follows:
Cybernetics is a transdisciplinary[1] approach for exploring regulatory systems—their structures, constraints, and possibilities. Norbert Wiener defined cybernetics in 1948 as “the scientific study of control and communication in the animal and the machine.”[2] In other words, it is the scientific study of how humans, animals and machines control and communicate with each other.
Cybernetics is applicable when a system being analyzed incorporates a closed signaling loop—originally referred to as a “circular causal” relationship—that is, where action by the system generates some change in its environment and that change is reflected in the system in some manner (feedback) that triggers a system change. Cybernetics is relevant to, for example, mechanical, physical, biological, cognitive, and social systems. The essential goal of the broad field of cybernetics is to understand and define the functions and processes of systems that have goals and that participate in circular, causal chains that move from action to sensing to comparison with desired goal, and again to action. Its focus is how anything (digital, mechanical or biological) processes information, reacts to information, and changes or can be changed to better accomplish the first two tasks.[3] Cybernetics includes the study of feedback, black boxes and derived concepts such as communication and control in living organisms, machines and organizations including self-organization.
The word cybernetics comes from Greek κυβερνητική (kybernētikḗ), meaning “governance”, i.e., all that are pertinent to κυβερνάω (kybernáō), the latter meaning “to steer, navigate or govern”, hence κυβέρνησις (kybérnēsis), meaning “government”, is the government while κυβερνήτης (kybernḗtēs) is the governor or “helmperson” of the “ship”. Contemporary cybernetics began as an interdisciplinary study connecting the fields of control systems, electrical network theory, mechanical engineering, logic modeling, evolutionary biology, neuroscience, anthropology, and psychology in the 1940s, often attributed to the Macy Conferences. During the second half of the 20th century cybernetics evolved in ways that distinguish first-order cybernetics (about observed systems) from second-order cybernetics (about observing systems).[4] More recently there is talk about a third-order cybernetics (doing in ways that embraces first and second-order).[5]
“The scientific study of control and communication in the animal and the machine.”
Norbert Wiener is key:
Norbert Wiener is credited as being one of the first to theorize that all intelligent behavior was the result of feedback mechanisms, that could possibly be simulated by machines and was an important early step towards the development of modern AI.[3]
One of the key types of revelation in The Minds of Men regards human experimentation. Not only is it very ugly, but there is LOTS OF IT. Almost four hours just touching it at a HIGH LEVEL. Much of it centers on mapping the brain using implanted electrodes. This work seems cruel and wasted from what the Dykes duo knows, but I now believe it was NOT WASTED. Just knowing what stuff appears where in the brain, and what drugs fire up or shut down what parts of the brain, was likely KEY in understanding how to pharmacologically play with the circuit breaker panel, so to speak, and create a HACK into the brain which allowed rudimentary programming.
In other words, I believe the work was FRUITFUL, and if we want to turn this stuff in a Godly direction, it needs to be REVEALED.
Now – something very STRIKING about the revelations in The Minds of Men.
On the one end of it, you have famous members of the intellectual elite like Norbert Wiener and Margaret Mead, jonesing up the cybernetic revolution in New York City at fancy conferences sponsored by the Macy’s Foundation. The names – the players – businesses, foundations, universities, governments – it is all HUGE and OVERFLOWING WITH MONEY and utterly UNSTOPPABLE. As soon as I saw the MONEY and POWER behind cybernetics, I understood WHY MIND CONTROL MATTERED.
And yet these people were “reputationally” disconnected from the very people they met with at these conferences. The ones who did the real dirty work of cybernetics – the wannabe-famous medical scientists who did sneaky, CIA-funded experiments that could NEVER ultimately make them famous – only infamous – because REAL LIVE PEOPLE were experimented on like animals.
And yet, put it all in the context of Roswell and the headbands, of which I’m sure only a few players knew (Wiener, Dulles, Helms, maybe Gottlieb), and one starts to understand WHY such experiments were “green-lighted”. There was URGENCY on this stuff.
Earth – HUMANITY – was way behind. Anybody who received briefings of what was experienced at Roswell would have surely realized that RADICAL MEDICAL EXPERIMENTS in hopes of curing people while gathering precious data to unravel alien near-telepathic communications and programming were almost saintly next to German and Japanese experiments on prisoners.
Although – yeah – see Kinzer – we did THAT, too. *face-palm*
And speaking of unwilling subjects experimented upon, I would LOVE to see my data someday – I can really correct a LOT of it.
So now, let’s bring it back to
My Hot Date With Nonexistent Tech
After watching The Minds of Men, it is VERY clear to me now why my ass got run over by MK ULTRA. There were HUGE forces, on a schedule, on a timetable, to advance this world – and more correctly SAVE IT in ways that Stephen Kinzer MOCKS and LAUGHS AT (read the book). Do those forces justify SHOOTING and KILLING US NOW?
Well, I tend to think NOT. Just like I think that trying to kill two guys who BARELY got in the way of their runaway train was not justified.
And trust me – Stephen Gottlieb is not the guy who ordered my “expending” in 1981, at which time (same month!) a similar job was used on Ronald Reagan – PRESIDENT Ronald Reagan – and some guy named Brady to advance the SAME FOREIGN AGENDA.
Are you all starting to see why they would dump that Kinzer book now? I only have to remind myself of what I actually went through, and what this NATION went through, to get a wee bit pissed about this stuff.
It turns out that the RULES I thought we had to obey are a JOKE and WINDOW DRESSING so that people like you and me can pretend that we’re in a nice fancy moving restaurant – when in fact we are actually in a BOXCAR on a TRAIN on a CONTINENT on a PLANET in a SYSTEM in a STAR GROUP in a GALAXY in a CLUSTER in a UNIVERSE in a SUBSET of an INFINITY of universes.
As lying Greta – that child shill whose role I once played – says: “THERE’S NO TIME.”
No, not “no time to save the planet”. NO TIME TO SAVE THEIR MONEY.
Here was me, thinking we had to do the right thing, even if that meant slowing down a good, well-meaning, GIANT idea just a little tiny bit to meet reality, when – little did I know – a day’s delay in the MONEY was worth more than my entire lifetime’s work.
These people had NO USE FOR ME. They had even less use for the student who caused the problem. They needed us dead, and they TRIED, but they MESSED UP. And then the backup failed. And then the backup to THAT failed.
And here we are. My happiness just to be alive is schadenfreude, because I was, am and always will be a PEST to them.
What is REMARKABLE is that my story falls RIGHT INTO “The Minds of Men”. I won’t say how or where, but that is now my biggest nuke. I was SHOCKED to hear FAMILIAR WORDS in the movie.
If anything ever happens to me, just fit me into the movie, and crash the whole damn thing to the ground. Every Trump accuser and enemy in the “60% that won’t be revealed” will spill out on the ground like some broken alien doll-person falling out of a flying saucer and
JUSTICE.
Although maybe a bit too much. But if they want it that way, it could happen.
Little did I know, when I walked into my would-have-been life of science, I walked right into a hotbed of MK ULTRA research. Everything and everybody was RIGHT THERE to take care of the problem. The NAIL stuck up. The HAMMER was there, just looking for a job.
That hotbed is only mentioned tangentially in the documentary, but combined with other things, it forces me to realize that there was a NEST of practitioners of cutting-edge PROGRAMMING OF HUMANS at my university. A department – a program that everybody thought was PUDVILLE – was actually housing human psychological programming that this world would not even BELIEVE POSSIBLE.
And there is so much money in it, KILLING PEOPLE is part of doing business.
It’s hilarious. I remember being a student on a plane, visiting universities, deciding where I was going to go. The guy next to me – a regular, random guy – thought I should go to the university with the most research. I liked that answer. I listened to him.
And here we are.
SO – the following is what I currently believe about the human individual MK tech which is now in use by the black hats.
Pharmacological
it is based on initial access to subjects while they are incapacitated, such as sleeping
initial induction of anesthesia may be done with a fast-acting narcotic such as carfentanil
devices and protocols are designed for the operation to be aborted at almost any time without the subject ever gaining awareness of the process
scheduled operations are almost risk-free – my awareness was due to a string of misfortunes, accidents and errors, including likely protocol violations
they don’t like subjects having access to guns – hence the tendency of sides using MK to attempt accessions when subjects are traveling or visiting prepared destinations
white hat accessions may exhibit ethical aspects in both programming actions and the programming itself (gonna leave that as a generality)
failed employer or service drug tests may serve as indicators of past MK accessions
highly amnesic sedatives, probably benzodiazepines, are used in combination with other drugs which may include specific stimulants or depressants
the goal is to increase *particular* areas of voluntary brain activity such as speech, while decreasing others, such as CONCURRENT MEMORY STORAGE, to gain a state where a subconscious persona can respond to questions and the subject cannot remember it
thus, the drug combination and the parts of the brain affected are KEY to the target state
Psychological / Cybernetic
the implantation process requires entry into a highly hypnotic state not achievable by normal hypnosis
the implanted programming can be described as a kind of artificial obsessive-compulsive disorder
the implantation process involves a skilled combination of input and output, much like an interactive computer programming session
remote programming was not possible in 1981, but is likely now, using advanced technology to connect a programmer to a subject
AI will soon be able to function as the programmer, if not already
subject requires a motivation to perform scripts
success requires freedom from “showstopper” inhibitors of script actions
“unthinkable” is “undoable”
motivations can be implanted, within limits
some but not all inhibitors can be overridden by motivations
success is proportional to motivation
success is inversely proportional to inhibition
script executes or fails in ACTUAL environment, just like scripting/shell languages
script can be insulated from environment by creating “tunnel vision” and internal focus
existing intelligent sub-processes can be used to support missions
new intelligent sub-processes can be generated in situ
interrogation is used to find motivators, inhibitors, and other existing programming to exploit or bypass
event triggers are used just like value checks and logic tests in normal programming
like any hacking, the more programming has been introduced, the more becomes possible
subject ability to SELF-PROGRAM increases ability to be EXTERNALLY PROGRAMMED, but also presents RISKS of SELF-DEPROGRAMMING
hypnotic suggestion can close off access to memories outside of the programming session, but cannot guarantee against possibility of accidental re-creation of access
hypnotic closure can be breached by trigger creation if the subject accidentally gains concurrent consciousness in the session and this is not spotted and erased by the programmers
Now – to be completely blunt – I believe that the alien tech is way better, and has likely benefited from human research since the Barney and Betty Hill days. I also believe that the human tech has improved, and may now be a generation BEYOND what I experienced. Nevertheless, I think these “fundamentals of human programming” still apply, even if they are highly automated and compressed now.
Cybernetics. The CORE principle is that – carbon or silicon – it’s all MACHINES. But that means that GOD’S MACHINES – all of them – can love God, too. I am convinced of this.
