“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
This SPECIAL (D5 + 4) = (D13 – 4) SEE SOMETHING SAY SOMETHING SUNDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
Say what you want, comment on what other people said, comment on people’s comments. Keep it civil. Treehouse rules, but expect lots of QAnon.
No illegalities, please! Even Eric Holder, the Architect of Parkland, is protected from threats of violence on this site. He is not, however, protected from the Truth about what he did by taking away our due process rights, in order to take away our rights of self defense.
Today (Sunday, December 9) will be the seventh day of Hanukkah, and the eighth day of Advent.
Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 94d00f No.4197470 Dec 7 2018 11:21:52 (EST) https://video.foxnews.com/v/5976775955001/?#sp=show-clips Interesting music for Fox News? Sound familiar? Why ‘all of a sudden’ are people talking about the CLINTON FOUNDATION (including whistleblowers and hidden company established to investigate covertly (ex_ABCs))? Would you ‘go public’ if the investigation was still ongoing? What happens when you have enough evidence to PROCEED? What is the benefit of educating the public PRIOR TO proceeding? COME[Y] Q
Q Post 2562
Interesting. [Y] ??? Is Sally Q. Yates going to get thrown under the bus? Or is Jim Comey’s testimony part of the WHY in answering Q’s questions above?
You decide.
It’s very interesting to see how the press is handling this.
On one end of the reality spectrum, Muh Russia Insider, whoops I mean Soviet MSM Insider, oh, what the heck, let’s go with their Mu Sigma Mu secret name Business Insider makes it look like Trump’s time is up:
Look how the frigging SOVIET MEDIA – tool of the Deep State – uses their time delay for narrative setting. Comey. WHAT A SPUD. Wish they would have been smart enough to get a 24 hour delay on Black Hatspell’s testimony on Khashoggi, rather than permanent burial alongside Lindsey Graham’s red pill!
Now compare to NPR, which actually does a decent job this time! WTF is up with THAT???!!!
Grateful for a fair hearing from judge. Hard to protect my rights without being in contempt, which I don’t believe in. So will sit in the dark, but Republicans agree I’m free to talk when done and transcript released in 24 hours. This is the closest I can get to public testimony.
When did POTUS make the statement “Calm Before the Storm?” When was HUBER activated by SESSIONS? Who was/is assigned to HUBER? ACTING AG PRIMARY PURPOSE? SCARAMUCCI MODEL? PUBLIC OPINION (OPTICS) DO NOT MATTER. What was leaked today (on purpose?)? https://twitter.com/johnrobertsFox/status/1070749777334292481 HUBER to testify re: Clinton Foundation? HUBER to reveal ‘active’ probe actively underway into organization? OIG to release report #2 [overview indicating many ‘potentially criminal referrals’ made]? “We do not discuss active/ongoing DOJ / FBI investigations.” MIL INTEL FISA THE WORLD IS WATCHING. Q
Q Post 2561
.@realDonaldTrump wants to nominate William Barr to be the next Attorney-General. Barr served as Attorney-General during the Bush 41 presidency. While POTUS normally likes to surround himself with people he knows and likes, he doesn't know Barr, but Barr commands immense respect
I urge people to read both links – the DC article immediately above, and Sundance’s analysis.
In my opinion, we are now seeing an open civil war in the federal government. This is completely analogous to what happened when the communists in CIA, FBI and DNC (as well as Stefan Halper, snug as a bug next to Erlichman) entrapped President Richard M. Nixon, and the government as a whole did NOT know what to do. This was the communist-created “constitutional crisis” which actually started the kangaroo courts known as special counsels.
Allow me to explain some very important things.
If you observe the Robert Mueller Hoax Kangaroo Court, it is curious for these reasons:
Comey really did not have a reason to instigate a special counsel – the logic was weak
Rosenstein, likewise, had little reason to start one – there was no CRIME to begin with
It was started very quickly, which made little sense, as there was no rush b/c no crime
It has always appeared to be a fishing expedition for weird stuff or anti-Trump stuff
It always appeared to be looking for process crimes on the anti-Trump stuff
It always seemed to be trying to GENERATE crimes on the anti-Trump stuff
Some of the crimes that Mueller obtained plea bargains for were not even crimes
THAT is actually similar to what happened in Watergate, with CIA personnel
The goofy weird stuff was Russians, but not related to Trump
All Russians found seem to be related to the Democrats and Obama people
Fusion GPS is weirdly tied to the Russians and the attorney let in by Loretta Lynch
Mueller indicted Russian women who acted as internet provocateurs and trolls
Those women were living in now-infamous Broward County
Those women lived very near Nikolas Cruz
Those women were long gone when indicted
It is now becoming clear to me that the Mueller investigation had THREE primary but closely related purposes:
Try to find dirt on Donald J. Trump
Try to create a “Watergate-style Impeachment Bluff” to get Trump out of the White House
Cover up Democrat collusion with Russia (and China, but mostly Russia)
I have discussed John Podesta’s part of the collusion HERE, and – sadly – I believe that I have inadvertently caused MORE “Panic in DC” in doing so.
The reason is that I carefully articulated WHY the Democrats “accuse the other side of exactly what they are doing“. In doing so, I came VERY close to doing so SPECIFICALLY for the Mueller special counsel.
The reason that the Mueller special counsel is tasked with going after an accusation of Trump doing exactly what the Democrats were doing – under the PRETENSE of going after TRUMP for doing those things, is so that they can COVER UP themselves doing those things.
Stated differently, the Mueller special counsel was a way for Democrats to keep a footprint in government in order to cover up Democrat collusion with Russia.
Sundance spotted a while back that Mueller seemed to be trying to corral all the evidence needed for FISAgate. Yes – that was a brilliant insight.
And NOW we have THIS incident, where the FBI raids the whistleblower against Mueller and the FBI. Well, that sure sounds like all the FISAgate “evidence corralling” that Mueller has been doing, too.
Beyond THAT, I think it’s even worse. I think that Mueller has been going after ALL the evidence of ANY Democrat collusion with the Russians – including female internet provocateurs and trolls who live near mass shooters – and is covering up THAT evidence by “corralling” it.
SO – what I’m saying is that we now understand part of the benefit of accusing the “other side” of doing exactly what they were doing.
What we are talking about is a RACE TO THE EVIDENCE. There is nothing to get one there FASTER than having a window on the SAME crimes and the SAME evidence, but PROTECTED by DISINFORMATION.
But because we know that “collusion with the Russians” and “accuse the other side of exactly what they were doing” are in operation, that means that WHOEVER Mueller was going after is DANGEROUS to the Democrats. Even if we don’t recognize them.
Do you realize how mind-blowing this is? NOW we have a good explanation of why they came up with bogus stories like “Mueller is gathering all the evidence that Trump needs! Mueller is on Trump’s side!”
This kind of disinformation is POSSIBLE when you “accuse the other side of exactly what you are doing.”
WOW. Talk about CHUMPS. We was CHUMPS.
Sundance also spotted that AT LEAST SOME of the people saying “don’t worry – trust the plan” and/or various forms of “trust Sessions” and/or “trust Wray” were in fact buying time for a counterattack by the communists.
I now believe Sundance was 100% right.
Not everybody. Certainly not me. But some. I’m sure of it. Even if not CONSCIOUSLY, I think some were simply misled. An “overconfidence ploy” against Trump and his supporters.
And now you’ve got John O. Brenzhnev posting his Soviet demoralization tweets to go after POTUS and his supporters.
“THE NOIVE OF DAT MAN!”
This admission may sound very weird coming from somebody who Sundance kicked out of CTH commenting for being a “Q believer”, but I really think that Sundance is right that the other side is helping to push “Trust the Plan”.
However, it’s NOT THAT SIMPLE. I believe that OUR side is legitimately pushing patience, too.
What I think we have here is a case of two sides that are bought into a kind of massive poker game, and “going for the mid-terms” was on BOTH of their agendas. This is a MASSIVE mutual deception between the two sides. This is a GAME OF CHICKEN.
There are PATRIOTS saying “Don’t fire until you see the whites of their eyes! Patience! Give Trump time and freedom! Trust the plan!“
There are also DECEIVERS saying “Mueller is on our side, don’t worry! Trust the plan!“
BOTH SIDES have been driving toward the exciting conclusion.
So – Sundance is right. But so are we. Here is why I think this.
I think that the game is getting EXTREMELY intense. Mueller’s cover is ALMOST BLOWN. Rosenstein’s cover is ALMOST BLOWN.
BUT NOBODY WANTS TO MAKE THE FIRST HEAVY MOVE.
I don’t think it’s a good idea for us patriots to be divided.
And yes – there are some among us who are actually helping the other side. Helping to cover up Democrat-Russian collusion to help China and the “globalists” (really another long Soviet front) “peacefully” slide us into a socialist model similar to both China and Russia. Look at Europe. Sure doesn’t look like the “West” won now, does it? Freedoms from oppressive government are disappearing everywhere.
But you know what? I trust TRUMP. And I trust the COMMANDER IN CHIEF. I trust the MILITARY to back him up. And I trust that “Q” would have been frogmarched LONG AGO if he was working for the other team.
I am ALSO observing that the new demoralization trolls on CTH, who came out of nowhere and psy-opped Sundance, are all screaming to declassify now. I don’t trust them. Not one bit.
I trust TRUMP. CIC TRUMP.
SO – I think it would be a good idea for CTH to let the good people HERE who USED to help Sundance chase away all the demoralization trolls, chase away the current phalanx of demoralization trolls. But if not, I’ll keep the good guys safe here, until things become much clearer.
I personally think that having TWO MAGA CANNONS to fire at the communists beats having just one. So I will not abandon this fort, and I will always HELP CTH whenever I can.
All I DO know is this. Times just got a WHOLE LOT more interesting.
W
BOOM!
PS – now you understand why they took down Alex Jones. “Conspiracy theories”. LOL! He might say something that MADE SENSE.
Looks like Soros, Venezuela, Russia, China, and the Communist DNC just walked into a trap. By turning the border into a legitimate crisis – their WET DREAM – they unintentionally turned it into a bona fide national security issue – perfect for our VSGPOTUS to deal with in a more straightforward and Communist-proof fashion.
Notice how the Communists JACKED UP the problem, and then when it got here, realizing their MISTAKE, they tried to tamp down all messaging – all photos and videos? Seems like they figured out too late that they got set up.
Trump Boomerang Effect. The Democrat Fake News deserves no less.
Now we go on to those other 3 posts.
Here is the image of the referenced Q post within Post 2499, shown more closely.
That post (the “Nothing can stop what is coming.” post) contained a reference to the well-known “Trump vs. The Establishment” video. The post also put the CLINTON FOUNDATION straight in the crosshairs. WELCOME TO FBIAnon. I always thought that FBIAnon was the beta test for QAnon. Now I think they were more like Part A the warm up and Part B the SHOW.
Back to the rest of the post.
Or in text:
Everything stated has a purpose. Think timing of Tweet (above) v last drops [HouseOfCards] re: Maggie NYT re: WL ‘Maggie’ drops re: WL attack re: ‘Q’ Do you believe in coincidences? Be ‘extremely’ vigilant in Dec. See something. Say something. EXTREME PANIC IN [DC] WWG1WGA! Q
Q Post 2499
Note that a Trump tweet is referenced:
The same tweet as an active text embedding, for those who need text.
Clinton Foundation donations drop 42% – which shows that they illegally played the power game. They monetized their political influence through the Foundation. “During her tenure the State Department was put in the service of the Clinton Foundation.” Andrew McCarthy
An amazing tweet. Trump calls out the Clinton Foundation, and basically says (by quoting Andrew McCarthy) that the STATE DEPARTMENT was at its beck and call.
Remember who became Secretary of State AFTER Hillary’s embeds RESISTED former SoS Rex Tillerson, in regard to providing evidence to investigators. No such problems with Secretary Pompeo. Note that this picture was taken during questioning of Secretary Hillary Clinton.
Now we understand ONE of the reasons that Tillerson was replaced. The WITCH could not be prosecuted without STATE providing EVIDENCE to HUBER.
DONE.
Next, Maggie Haterman, the Politico flack (“Tee-em-up Maggie”) elevated to the NYT just for Hillary Clinton’s use before Hillary’s ascension, is referenced. Q calls attention to the timing of the tweets.
Maggie, Minion of the Hildabeast, was allowed to attack Trump, Q and the prosecution, and NOW Trump and Q drop bombs to show that THE MEDIA is not journalism, but (IMHO) DEFENDERS OF COMMUNISM.
Lastly, a very disturbing warning.
Be ‘extremely’ vigilant in Dec. See something. Say something. EXTREME PANIC IN [DC] WWG1WGA! Q
“Extreme panic in [DC]”
This means the PANIC is bigger than it was earlier. The first “Panic” posts were made around 9/11, and those were “frisky” times.
Huber testifying. Comey testifying. Yeah. This means a LOT of people are worried about skeletons in closets.
And THAT explains the WARNING to be “extremely” vigilant.
Thankfully, we have this EASILY WATCHED venue called The Q Tree now, don’t we?
“See something. Say something.” So much EASIER to do that, now that we’re free of the troublemakers at CTH, is it not? Why, it’s rather remarkable in hindsight. Maybe we’re SUPPOSED to be here.
It’s worth considering.
Next, the very monumental Post 2500.
This post quotes the prior one, and includes THIS new section:
The post deals mostly with Corsi, who is stated to have attempted to infiltrate Q, and it looks like he was doing so on Mueller’s behalf. This is then linked up to the idea that many of the people who “left” the White House did NOT have a choice. They were FAKE NEWS, FAKE MAGA.
As Q says – TRANSPARENCY IS THE ONLY WAY.
Patriots united. BOOM.
Finally, Post 2501.
The first part reviews what we know about classification NOT being able to hide crimes, errors, inefficiency, etc. Surprisingly, OBAMA make this Executive Order in 2010. There is indeed a bit of karma there.
The second part is the new information:
The big picture here is that Q is saying that Whitaker and the OIG (Horowitz) have approved the release of the FISA documents as requested by the HOUSE and ORDERED by Trump.
But will they be released BEFORE or AFTER the D5 testimony? Yeah. Think about THAT STUFF. There is useful ambiguity here – which may INFLUENCE testimony.
Finally, the points of conflict with the UK and AUS are noted – that these countries were in truth only allied with PART of the United States – “selected divisions”, as Q calls them.
The Dems? Deep State? Let me tell you, I actually *KNOW* about this selective collaboration – these “selected divisions”. I was never regarded as part of them – I do know that. In fact, I was TARGETED BY and USED BY those “selected divisions” and their foreign allies.
So things are going to be interesting to me in particular. VERY interesting.
I do NOT think that [Koala] means Cuddly Kudlow. I know that much. Pretty sure it’s a PLACE and maybe a COUNTRY and maybe SELECTED DIVISIONS.
One final point. Post 2499 references Post 2498 containing a link to THIS Maggie Haberman tweet:
Or as an embedded tweet:
OH on the Q train intercom: "Attention passengers. The intercom phone is for emergencies only, it is not for asking the conductor questions."
The basic meaning (where OH = “overheard”) is as follows:
Overheard on the intercom in the Q train: “Attention passengers. The intercom phone is for emergencies only, it is not for asking the conductor questions.”
Maggie Haberman, Twitter, Nov 20, 2018
Maggie MAY just be toying with Q supporters – the usual NYC snark. I thought it was cute and funny. But this woman is a friend of Hillary Clinton. She can’t be so stupid not to realize that Hillary Clinton is not a nice person. So it could be a “code-speak” message. And if it IS some kind of code, OH could be OHIO. But I can’t really see much more than that.
I’m interested in other interpretations. This is somewhat unusual. Maggie NYT may actually be passing information of some kind to somebody. So your thoughts are appreciated.
That is all. Let’s discuss.
W/WWG1WGA
IN GOD WE TRUST Because God not only HAS a plan – God IS a plan. In fact, GOD is THE plan.
The YouTube link is to the now-familiar Trump speech on the historic nature of what is coming.
SO – what do you all think?
This strikes me as a commitment to irreversibility. Q is saying “there is no going back”. To put it in my language, the UniParty and its foreign backers are raus – and rausfor good.
What exactly will this mean?
I have my own ideas – I’m not even sure I want to speak them aloud. But Q is basically saying:
“they’re getting cleaned up in a way that doesn’t allow them to come back.“
WOW.
W
The VSGPOTUS ban hammer may be IS bigger than mine.