Nothing Can Stop What's Coming

Fresh Q is here!

Will add more as they come in!

But wait!  There’s more!

https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/419901-fbi-email-chain-may-provide-most-damning-evidence-of-fisa-abuses-yet

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/obamas-fbi-brass-hollowed-out-after-latest-resignation-of-key-official

There you have it.  The latest Q.

It’s very clear what he’s talking about.  INFORMATION REBELLION.

Goodbye, Goolag.

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Elizabeth Carter

Great job Wolfmoon, Thank you for posting these.

Elizabeth Carter

I am so grateful the Trumps are not participating. Q2553

Pat Frederick

thanks for posting these! another newbie question: do the underlined parts means something special to someone? like in #2555 the “LL” (Loretta Lynch) seems to be underlined but not JC (James Comey) is that significant?

Nor'easter

You might be onto something…!
Can’t zoom enough-hard for me to tell-can anyone verify:
Are there 10 “dots” under “D’s”
And seven “dots” under “LL” ?
10+7=17=Q
We might have another Autist !

andrew1979

i can’t wait to see what they have up their sleeve for the next Delay Tactic!!!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I’d like to add a bit more about uranium isotopes.
Note: if Keln comes over here I’d welcome any corrections he has; this is a hobby for me but he used to deal with nuclear power for a living.
U-238 is overwhelming more common than U-235, it’s over 99% of uranium as it comes out of the ground. It radioactively decays quite slowly, taking 4.5 billion years for half of it to decay. (It becomes thorium-234, which much more rapidly decays further, a chain that ends with lead-206.)
You cannot build a bomb out of U-238, although you can make plutonium 239 from it–which can be made into bombs (very difficult technically–a mass must be created AND compressed with high explosives). (A plutonium bomb was used on Nagasaki, and it was complex enough they had to test one beforehand in New Mexico.)
U-235 has a 700 million year half life, eventually becoming lead-207, and it can be made into bombs. In bombs, it doesn’t undergo that kind of decay, rather it undergoes the exact reaction shown in the “cover art” for this post. And a U-235 bomb is easy to make, provided you have a stock of U-235–just arrange for two smaller chunks to be brought together quickly to form a critical mass and KaBoom! (The bomb dropped on Hiroshima was a U-235 bomb. It’s so dead simple to make one of these, in fact, that they didn’t even bother with a test.)
The difficulty with making a U-235 bomb comes in the fact that the U-235 must be separated out from the U-238. There’s no chemical way to do this, because the two isotopes are both uranium.
A physical process is required and the most well-known of these is to react uranium with flurorine to make uranium hexafluoride (a gas), and then use centrifuges to separate out the heavy molecules (with U-238 in them) from the light ones (with U-235).
This is a very difficult, tedious process. One pass through a centrifuge only somewhat “enriches” the mixture, making U-235 slightly more common in the product than it was before (and the discarded fraction has less U-235 but not none of it). So it has to be done over and over again, removing more U-238 each time, leaving (proportionately) more U-235 behind.
This is known as enrichment. It’s not perfect. But it can raise the U-235 portion enough to be usable in a nuclear reactor (up to about 20 percent, known as low enriched uranium), or if even more enriched (20-80%, high enriched uranium), make bombs.
This is what Iran is doing with all those centrifuges we keep hearing about.
The U-238 rejected by this process is called “depleted uranium” and is often used by the military for bullets, and can sometimes be used as tank armor. It’s extremely dense material, much more so than lead.
There was a poster over on the other tree who kept claiming that Robert Mueller delivered our nuclear stockpiles to Russia (that’s an awful lot of stuff!). Or that (supposedly) he delivered a sample of highly-enriched uranium to Russia so they could see what they’re buying. (People would try to correct him, and he’d simply ignore them and paste the same one-paragraph diatribe over and over again into his posts.)
That’s just absurd, and now I can finally say something.
What Russia got in Uranium-1 (thank you, Hitlary!) was a lot of our uranium mines. It’s ore. It hasn’t been enriched yet. If they needed samples, they would have been given samples of the ore to see how much uranium is in it–but this uranium is NOT enriched, because it’s still in the ground and hasn’t been processed yet.
It’s like I am trying to sell you an iron mine, and I give you a piece of (highly processed) tool steel as a supposed sample. No, you’d want an ore sample, so you could see how much iron was in the ore.
From what I read (once, so take it with a grain of salt), apparently what Robert Mueller took to the Russians was a sample of HEU that came from some that was stolen and we had recovered. The Russians could analyze that (isotopically with a mass spectrometer, if not some other way), and determine it came from one of their enrichment facilities, and positively identify that we had recovered the stolen HEU.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yikes. Somehow I failed to close the “em” tag after the word “can.” Please fix it unless, of course, you want to keep it for posteriority for some reason.

Deplorable Patriot

The italics are fine. It makes sense. Thanks.

Nor'easter

Where can I find out about changing my fonts for a post on wordPress (such as italics or bold)?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Where can I find out about changing my fonts for a post on wordPress (such as italics or bold)?

I do the following [em]something[/em] makes it italics, and [strong]something[/strong] makes it bold. Some places allow i and b as well. But instead of using square brackets, use the angle brackets (above the period and the comma if you’re on a standard keyboard).
Another one I use is [blockquote]something[/blockquote], but only on full paragraphs. It’s what I used to quote your question up above; I did it like this (again, I used angle brackets instead of the square ones):
[blockquote]
Where can I find out about changing my fonts for a post on wordPress (such as italics or bold)?
[/blockquote]

Nor'easter

Thanks Steve !

scott467

Testing….

Another one I use is [blockquote]something[/blockquote], but only on full paragraphs. It’s what I used to quote your question up above; I did it like this (again, I used angle brackets instead of the square ones):

scott467

Ha! It works!
ThinkThinkThink posted to show me how to do that a while back, but I misunderstood and used the square brackets instead of the angle brackets.
Thank you!

CHI->AZ : Improvise, Adapt and Overcome

Nor’easter,
Try this HTML Text Formatting educational site. The site has relevant WP HTML coding and practice boxes to increase your proficiency.
https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_formatting.asp

Nor'easter

EXACTLY what I needed!
Thanks

para59r

Using Strong with these things because I don’t have angled brackets… lets see…

para59r

these things, side ways v’s above the , and . didn’t show up but yeah.. it works. 🙂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Thanks!

Sylvia Avery

What I want to know is if this sale was done illegally or illegitimately can it be unspooled? Can we just go confiscate our mines and say, “sorry, we’re taking them back.”
Thanks for the explanation, btw. Very helpful and informative.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Oh, that’d be a legal question (and a very good one). MUCH more complicated than nuclear physics. 😀

JasonD

Depends what you mean by “complicated”.
In fact, lets start at the beginning (whatever that means) – define “a” 🙂
We can proceed from there – 5:5? Yes? No ………..

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

We’re still overdue for defining “is.”

JasonD

Correct, but it wasn’t in your post that I replied to, leaving me without such a big fat sitting duck! Curse you!!
So I decided to dispense with all pretence, and go for the “whole hog”, as it were. You did leave the door wide open by including that innocent little article – the “a” – were you going for the subtle double entendre? By dropping a sneaky little definite article into a treatise about law – very cleverly played sir!!
Somehow I don’t think this is going to end well for me ……

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I’m going to reQse.

singularZoe

Steve, you triggered a memory in me, whether true or not I don’t know. Was that uranium sample yellow-cake? Hope I’m not being very ignorant, lol.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yellowcake is partially processed ore, everything but the uranium oxide removed and the UO2 itself powdered. As such…I doubt it. It wouldn’t be a good sample to demonstrate how good the ore is, and it also has not been enriched, so it couldn’t be from a stolen stockpile of weapons-grade uranium. So regardless of which story of Mueller you believe, it wouldn’t make sense.
I *could* be wrong about this but that’s my educated guess.

singularZoe

Thank you, Steve.

Deplorable Patriot

I believe you are correct, and I also seem to remember that the sample Mueller took to Russia was theirs and he was returning it, but the details have gotten blurred as time has passed.

Sylvia Avery

This is ridiculous and I know it, but I kind of feel like I’m living on tenterhooks. I hate to leave the house to go to the store because, well, I might miss something. Silly. But jeepers.

andrew1979

right there with you!

Tammy Evers (@EverEleutheros)

Same here, hard to get anything done with all these new Q posts at all hours of the day & night.
Sylvia, you taught me a new word today, had to go look up tenterhooks. LOL, fits perfect.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Apparently everyone’s expecting the Huber testimony to be IT, but there are rumors of many other things afoot, such as the “other investigation(s)” that Flynn was helping with–any of which could conceivably bust loose before or after that. And who knows if something is going to pop up re: election fraud.
I just know that if the House of Reprehensibles has any role to play in this, it’s gotta happen before January 3.

Plain Jane

RINO Medved suggested that Flynn helped with investigation of Kushner. Oi!

Plain Jane

You got that right. He’s such a jerk. I suffer through some programming just to learn what the other sside is up to.

Plain Jane

He has courage to disparage callers on Conspiracy Day, and shut down callers on Disagreement Day programming, but that’s about it.

A.D. Everard

Heck yeah!

rayzorbak

Fake and Distracting “News”
.
Yep! Fox news is almost as dead as CNN to me anymore…..
Tucker keeps bringing on LIBERALS to debate, yet lets them go on and on…..
Hannity keeps parroting the SAME questions to Each and Every “guest” all day long….
(when he is not breaking his arm patting himself on the back TRYING to prove how “smart” he is)
Chris Hahn, Juan Williams, Horrendous Revolver, Cathy Areu and the like?
If I wanted to listen to PROPAGANDA…. I’d watch CNN… or BSMSPHD
(BS = Bullshite)
(MS = More Shite)
(PHD = Piled Higher and DEEPER)
Lou Dobbs, Stuart Varney, Charles Payne and Trish Regan on Fox Business are still ok by me.

Marica

Sylvia–I just got dressed up and made an appetizer for a girls nite –drove over there and found out it is FRIDAY–not tonite! and instead of being perturbed–I was so excited I could come home and come here!! LOL!!!Sitting in jammies, full make-up and hair eating dip for dinner….
What is wrong with me? LOL

Sylvia Avery

I think it sounds PERFECT! I wish I was there eating dip for dinner with you!
I need to figure out what to do about dinner and I really need to get to the store, but I may say the heck with it and call for pizza or Chinese instead.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Hmmm….out of popcorn?

Sylvia Avery

Oh no, dip just sounded really good and decadent. Depending on the dip, of course. Artichoke? Texas Dip with corn chips? Spinach? Wow, they all sound delish!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Artichoke works, seven layer works, spinach works, heck even plain ol’ French onion works.

Tonawanda

That is funny! So true and human!

Marica

Ima bad Hallmark movie is what I am!! LOL!

Tonawanda

Not so “bad” …

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Ima bad Hallmark movie is what I am!! LOL!

You’re absolutely deplorable, in fact.

Marica

Most Certainly AM! and so damn proud of it!! Do You Hear The People Sing?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Only in my right ear! (Deaf on the left side.) And only when they’re in their right minds!

Plain Jane

Four of my group went a week too soon to a Junior Woman’s Club meeting back in the ‘60s. We decided to just go to a bar and drink.
BTW, nothing is wrong with dip for dinner. 🙂

singularZoe

Sylvia, totally feel the same,so would you please pick up some eggs for me next time you go to the store? Thanks. Lol.

Sylvia Avery

Ha, ha! No problem, or better still we invite ourselves over to Marica’s!

singularZoe

@Sylvia, sounds like a plan to me.

Sylvia Avery

So Q says the blue check marks on Twitter are all about the arrests were going to happen today. Snort. As if. No way they’d do it on the national day of mourning. No way. That just doesn’t even make sense. In fact, I’d be surprised if anything happens this week.
But it would be nice if the info that was going to be released on Hannity on Monday was released tomorrow instead. But I am doubtful. I think they have slithered off the hook, briefly. There will be a new plan. But I wonder who will have to die to halt those proceedings? Carter?

Tammy Evers (@EverEleutheros)

Good times…you’re having too much fun today.

NYGuy54

sylvia?

Sylvia Avery

LOL I hope I’m not on the menu, chicken fried or other wise!

NYGuy54

lol….I had no idea what wolf was referring to. Sorry Sylvia.

Sylvia Avery

I don’t know either, but now I am picturing myself skewered on a rotisserie with an apple in my mouth slowly turning over the fire. Whew. Not pretty!

Sylvia Avery

🙂 🙂 🙂

NYGuy54

ah thank you..see I thought he was owned by Saudis but I like yours better

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I think Carter might have at least partially awakened when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan.
Not nearly enough, though.

rayzorbak

Soviets ran him….
“Palestinians” still do!

andrew1979

well, we know the president said he will give his G20 press conference after the funeral…
if i were his comm group, i would give zero more info to news networks for about a week. just publish through you know what!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Maybe soon whenever we read “G20” it will be a reference to the full size 10mm Glock.

Deplorable Patriot

I think the point is that before GHWB’s death was announced and D5 was declared a national day of mourning the blue check marks determined that arrests would happen today. They continually want to claim that exact dates for action like arrests are being put forward by the anon, which the anon and Trump would never do in a war time frame.
As for their next move, two state funerals that close together…. Maybe, although Jimmy Carter doesn’t conjure up a lot of fond memories. I was a kid, but even I remember the highlight of his four years was the 1980 Olympic gold in hockey.

Sylvia Avery

No, no one really liked Carter. Although we’ll still have all the pomp and circumstance. But I doubt they’d go twice to that particular well. I worry about a FF of some horrific sort.

andrew1979

i agree. i think there will be something huge in the next couple days (ok, at least within the next week).
on another note, personally i find jimmy’s brother much more interesting than jimmy! have a pic sitting in one of the trucks at his gas station (more like a tourist trap by the time i was there in the late 70’s. of course i was too young to appreciate billy beer and all that, but he was interesting to say the least! kind of like bill’s brother roger… just a strange cat whose brother happened to be president!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I can think of something far worse than either another state funeral, or a false flag.
I don’t even dare write it, but hint: this is a false dichotomy.

Sylvia Avery

No. No. No. All across American there are fervent prayers said daily. I am trusting to the One who holds us all in His hands.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I think you didn’t quite get my drift…but you came very close.

rayzorbak

Forgot about the Hockey….. I remember the Gas Lines and Interest Rates.

Nor'easter

Hannity announced on his radio show this afternoon that he was making a big announcement on his televised fox program tonight.
I know we’ve heard stuff like that from Hannity before (in fact, almost every day) to the point where it’s almost like “The Boy who Cried Wolf”.
Q has mentioned Hannity a few times.
And we know and that as per the story, the Wolf shows up for real in the end !

Sylvia Avery

I know, I find the Hannity hype tiresome, too. But between Q sending us and PDJT sending us, I feel I gotta watch!

andrew1979

i hope hannity says “folks, listen, FOX NEWS IS JUNK AND I AM OUT OF HERE!” rips off the mic and runs out, maybe even knocking a camera over, runs back in, grabs his box of footballs, and then runs back out knocking over laura ingraham.

Deplorable Patriot

Where will he go then to have an audience in prime time that size to get information out? OANN is not in all cable packages, and there are millions who do not do live streaming on the internet.
Yeah, he’s putting up with a lot, but this is war.

Marica

I used to think Carter–but he’s not part of the Cabal? So either Bill or W…–Maybe they draw straws 😉

andrew1979

carter has ties…

Deplorable Patriot

Is anyone else curious to know how a “Case Study of the Clinton Foundation” differs from a regular bread and circuses Congressional hearing complete with useless remarks and grandstanding? I may actually have to sit and watch this.

Sylvia Avery

I was wondering, too, or is that just a fancy name for the same old, same old?

Deplorable Patriot

I’m not sure. The wording is odd if it was just a hearing.

Sylvia Avery

Agree.

Aubergine

Hmmm. That does make one wonder.
case stud·y
/ˈkā(s) ˌstədē/
noun
noun: case study; plural noun: case studies; modifier noun: case-study
1.
a process or record of research in which detailed consideration is given to the development of a particular person, group, or situation over a period of time.
2.
a particular instance of something used or analyzed in order to illustrate a thesis or principle.
“airline deregulation provides a case study of the effects of the internal market”
They are either 1) exploring how in the world the Clinton Foundation developed into the greatest crime syndicate or our time, or 2) using the Clinton foundation to illustrate what the greatest crime syndicate of all time would look like.
Case study is an interesting term, indeed.

Deplorable Patriot

I mean, this isn’t a legal proceeding. If anything, it’s a presentation to get the public to understand just what in the H-E-double hockey sticks was going on in the name of “charity.”

Aubergine

Which, if looked at that way, makes perfect sense.
The “case study” of the Clinton Foundation is going to demonstrate to the public how public officials can, using a charity, illegally amass millions of dollars, all the while doing nothing “charitable” at all.
CF is, after all, the perfect illustration of that principle. It is a “teachable moment,” as we adults in the room (conservatives) like to say.

Deplorable Patriot

THIS intrigues me:
WHITAKER, HOROWITZ, HUBER, and WRAY.
Long meetings held within a SCIF [unusual] usually indicate something ‘highly important’ was discussed [planned]?
Oh, to be a bug in that SCIF….

NYGuy54

Whitaker went quiet right away. I suspect they are planning the hammer drop.

Deplorable Patriot

Apex predator. An orca closing in on the sharks.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

More like a bunch of Komodo dragons waiting for the injured boar to finally drop.
(Except that the numbers are reversed.)

Sylvia Avery

Me, too. I read that and had to reread it a few times. And note who is missing from that little gathering? Rosenstein.
So you have our new Acting AG, the DOJ’s Inspector General who has been charged with looking into FISA abuses etc., Session’s Stealth Investigator Huber, and Mr. FBI. Quite an interesting group.
As you say, DP, to be a bug in that SCIF!!!

JasonD

Note that POTUS is still toying with me!!!
He told us he likes Rosie, then he told us that Rosie recommended Wray!
Then Q posts a pic of Rosie in jail.
Now Wray joins our known white hats in the SCIF, meaning Wray is a white hat – what the heck does that make Rosie??
I DEMAND the truth – I can handle it ….. I think 🙂

Sylvia Avery

Drives me crazy! This is where Wolfmoon’s explanation about Q using his drops to send disinfo and confuse the enemy makes sense. Probably because it confuses me so successfully I can see how it might work to confuse the black hats.

Tonawanda

I was talking to VSG the other day. He called me as he does every once in a while.
“Hey Tona, how you doing?”
“Pretty good, Don, you ok?”
“I was thinking we could give JasonD a little razzle-dazzle, but cannot think how”
“Don,” I said, “throw him some Roddy stuff. Mix it up. Zig and zag.”
“Tona,” he said, “I got it. Watch what happens! This will be hilarious.”
“Don, please have just a tiny bit of sensitivity with all this stuff.”
“Listen, Tonawanda, I keep tweeting out hard core stuff. You saw the jail cell?”
“Yeah, but it gets overwhelmed with other stuff. And why JasonD, anyway?”
“I like the dude. Teasing is a form of affection.”
“Sometimes teasing looks like toying”
“Tona, JasonD is ok. Calm down. Trust the plan.”

JasonD

It’s the “Calm down” part that’s hard!!
Now if Don EVER puts Adam Schiff in a SCIF – then the teasing would have moved far beyond toying to pure torture ..
I mean, the biggest leaker, in a place that cannot tolerate leaking – it is almost as if we are just one F’ing H away from that occurring!! 🙂

Tonawanda

Lol …

JasonD

That is oxy-moronic of you – wanting to be the one place that you are “definitionally” excluded from? 😉

Deplorable Patriot

I don’t have to be there in person…at some point, though, knowing what was said….
I can be a nosy broad when I want to be.

Sylvia Avery

Yeah, I’d really like to cup my glass to the wall of the next room so I can hear it all!
(Did that EVER work?)

Deplorable Patriot

Short answer, no. But laying the ear against drywall works if the voices are supported enough to penetrate.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I suspect a SCIF has pretty good precautions against a method of surveillance that basic.

Deplorable Patriot

I’m sure it does. But still, every now and then the spirit of my nosy broad grandmother surfaces.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Oh, if I had a nickel for every time I wished I was a fly on the wall around something that’s happened in DC in the last two years…I could buy my own intelligence operation. (Just like Trump apparently did.)

Marica

Sylvia! A strong swing of your shovel should work quite well–way better than a cup ! 😉

JasonD

Sorry, I was playing with the idea of being a “bug” in a SCIF – 🙂

Deplorable Patriot

🙂 So was I.

Aubergine

I’d bet this was the meeting where Huber was laying it all out (CF) for Whitaker and Co.
Huber is the investigator. Horowitz has to have the information to complete his investigation of the various agencies parts in it. Wray has to have the info to go after the perps (civilians, Clintons, agents, etc.). And Whitaker is there because he is Huber’s supervisor (backup), and he reports to the President.
Arrests must soon follow, if I am correct.

Deplorable Patriot

Arrests hopefully.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Makes sense. But…even if your analysis is correct (and I sure hope it is) it might take a couple of months. Processes must be followed.

Sylvia Avery

More Q’s just dropped.

Deplorable Patriot

Interesting information there. Quiet, steady, stealth moves. Wow.

Sylvia Avery

I know SD is highly suspicious of John Solomon and Sara Carter because he believes they are being used for nefarious purposes as leak receivers for black hats.
I get the concern. But I’ve always wondered why SD never seemed to consider that maybe John and Sara are getting leaks from the good guys? It’s not just black hats that leak. Everyone leaks in DC for all sorts of reasons, and strategic leaking by white hats is just part of the game.
That’s been my thought, anyway, as it seemed much simpler and not as convoluted as SDs theory.

Nor'easter

^^^^THIS^^^^

wheatietoo

Sara Carter is married to a Veteran who lost his sight in Afghanistan.
She was the one who mysteriously got her hands on those leaked text messages between Strzok and Lisa Page, iirc.
She has gotten other good info too.
I don’t see her as anything other than a patriot journalist…which is a rarity.

Marica

Hi wheatie!!! I agree with you regarding Sara Carterand did not know her Vet hubby lost his sight…I would bet as much as Potus loves our vets–that she was hand-picked by POTUS!
The leaked text messages were the true turning point in spygate….

Tonawanda

A possible explanation occurring to me is jealousy.

Sylvia Avery

Well, that at least would be a human emotion, which could mean he has not been replaced by a bot.
And seriously, your explanation had crossed my mind as well.

Tonawanda

Just a possibility, but it covers the reaction to Q as well.

Sylvia Avery

Yes, it sure does.

Marica

yes it does! on all counts!!!!

JasonD

Sylvia, there is one simple test you can apply re Carter and Solomon …
Hannity is favoured by PDJT – that is obvious – a “lock”, so to speak …
That is all you need to know re Carter and Solomon – PDJT approves, by deductive reasoning.

Sylvia Avery

This is true!

TheseTruths

SD was also highly suspicious of Kellyanny Conway during the campaign. He was wrong about her, but I never saw him acknowledge it.

TheseTruths

“Kellyanne” 🙄

Sylvia Avery

No, he NEVER says if he was wrong or made a misjudgement or anything.

andrew1979

I AM NOT TIRED OF WINNING FOLKS!

Deplorable Patriot

It’s addictive even if one of my brothers quit a sport in high school because the team was so unbeatable he considered it no longer a challenge.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Indeed.
I have to take then-Candidate Trump for being slow to deliver on a key campaign promise. He said we’d get tired of winning. Hasn’t happened yet. So I guess by the logic of the other tree house I should assume it never will.

Sylvia Avery

Fresh Q posts this link to John Solomon, who was SUPPOSED to be on Hannity Monday:
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/419901-fbi-email-chain-may-provide-most-damning-evidence-of-fisa-abuses-yet

Johnny

What do you want for XMAS?
Q
Ya want a list? He wants a list, lol
New 2557-59

Deplorable Patriot

Another piece of intrigue missed by just about everybody, and the anon brings to our attention.
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/419901-fbi-email-chain-may-provide-most-damning-evidence-of-fisa-abuses-yet
FBI email chain may provide most damning evidence of FISA abuses yet
“By John Solomon
Opinion Contributor
Just before Thanksgiving, House Republicans amended the list of documents they’d like President Trump to declassify in the Russia investigation. With little fanfare or explanation, the lawmakers led by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) added a string of emails between the FBI and the Department of Justice (DOJ) to their wish list.
Sources tell me the targeted documents may provide the most damning evidence to date of potential abuses of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), evidence that has been kept from the majority of members of Congress for more than two years.
The email exchanges included then-FBI Director James Comey, key FBI investigators in the Russia probe and lawyers in the DOJ’s National Security Division, and they occurred in early to mid-October, before the FBI successfully secured a FISA warrant to spy on Trump campaign adviser Carter Page.
The email exchanges show the FBI was aware — before it secured the now-infamous warrant — that there were intelligence community concerns about the reliability of the main evidence used to support it: the Christopher Steele dossier.
The exchanges also indicate FBI officials were aware that Steele, the former MI6 British intelligence operative then working as a confidential human source for the bureau, had contacts with news media reporters before the FISA warrant was secured.”

phoenixRising

Excerpt from John Solomon’s article that Q referenced in last drop:
“If these documents are released, the American public will have clear and convincing evidence to see the FISA warrant that escalated the Russia probe just before Election Day was flawed and the judges (were) misled,” one knowledgeable source told me.
Congressional investigators also have growing evidence that some evidence inserted into the fourth and final application for the FISA — a document signed by current Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein — was suspect.
Nunes hinted as much himself in comments he made on Sean Hannity’s Fox News TV show on Nov. 20, when he disclosed the FBI email string was added to the declassification request. The release of the documents will “give finality to everyone who wants to know what their government did to a political campaign” and verify that the Trump campaign did not collude with Russia during the election, Nunes said.
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/419901-fbi-email-chain-may-provide-most-damning-evidence-of-fisa-abuses-yet

phoenixRising

my apologies DP… didn’t see your post…

Deplorable Patriot

It’s all good. 🙂 We’re here for the same purpose.

Sylvia Avery

“Congressional investigators also have growing evidence that some evidence inserted into the fourth and final application for the FISA — a document signed by current Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein — was suspect.”
Gosh, Rosenstein has an awful lot to answer for doesn’t he? I’d hate to be in his shoes right now.

Deplorable Patriot

To quote Garry Marshall in the movie “Soapdish,” It’s hypnotic.

phoenixRising
Deplorable Patriot

I’ll drink to that.

phoenixRising
NYGuy54

Don’t start a Lindsay Graham fan club yet

andrew1979

several of those people should also be behind bars right now.

Marica

When you jump on same bill as Feinstein, Rubio and Coons—well that might be the most abhorrent thing you can do Sen Graham…

phoenixRising

So, with NO EVIDENCE, they are the judges… they decide guilt?
They want a coup… SHAME.
Crown Prince is the one who created the purge, took Alaweed’s wealth…
Lindsey, you will NOT get head of Judiciary Committee. There is probably a cell waiting for you at GITMO.

Marica

exactly Phoenix! Damn Corrupt Senators will NOT ruin Potus relationship with Crown Prince. That purge was totally related to the Vegas shooting IMO…

NebraskaFilly

Agree on LV 100%!

Plain Jane

Well, I just heard that my idiot senator Todd Young, IN is also in on it. I didn’t like that guy from the get go. I hope Braun straightens him out somehow, someway.

para59r

However long any of those Senators have been in office its just that late for anyone of them to start virtue signaling.
Maybe MSB can invite Dinesh D’Souza to do a then and now documentary wrapping it into current events.

phoenixRising

Brian Cates has a THREAD (He supported Sessions 24/7 from day he was confirmed to… still does.

phoenixRising

And peeps say “Nothing’s Happening” !!
Is the expectation that there will be trumpets, and a box wrapped with a bow proclaiming
that all the bad guys have been rounded up and are boarding a plane for Gitmo. All televised, of course. And then a smiling angel appears on the screen and says do not worry, all is well.
Some people really need to wake up.
Joe M says forget about red-pilling them now…
The coming events will take care of that.

Deplorable Patriot

John Carlin is the one name that gets lost. He bugged out. Why?
We don’t know what we don’t know.

fleporeblog

Interesting that the day after Mueller releases his heavily redacted court document pertaining to General Flynn, John Solomon puts this article out on The Hill.
I know SD has his suspicions about Solomon but my belief is that the Good Guys are using him to get information out to the public domain.
The information here pertains to the FISA abuses. The same issue that IG Horowitz is investigating that Acting AG Whitaker will get to see and decide what redactions should occur.
https://twitter.com/politicalshort/status/1070455642769498117?s=21
From the article linked above:
Just before Thanksgiving, House Republicans amended the list of documents they’d like President Trump to declassify in the Russia investigation. With little fanfare or explanation, the lawmakers led by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) added a string of emails between the FBI and the Department of Justice (DOJ) to their wish list.
Sources tell me the targeted documents may provide the most damning evidence to date of potential abuses of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), evidence that has been kept from the majority of members of Congress for more than two years.
The email exchanges included then-FBI Director James Comey, key FBI investigators in the Russia probe and lawyers in the DOJ’s National Security Division, and they occurred in early to mid-October, before the FBI successfully secured a FISA warrant to spy on Trump campaign adviser Carter Page.
The email exchanges show the FBI was aware – before it secured the now-infamous warrant – that there were intelligence community concerns about the reliability of the main evidence used to support it: the Christopher Steele dossier.

Marica

Flep!! Good to see you here!! Totally agree with regarding good guys getting stuff out to people. via Solomon and Sara carter.. and LOVE that Nunes heads up request for additional emails!!! We are gonna have THE BEST CHRISTMAS!!!

fleporeblog
Marica
scott467

“I also think that in order to make it completely bulletproof, it was POTUS who instructed Mueller to hire an ALL-Democrat legal team. This way, once the hammer comes down on dirty dems, NO libs could use the argument that it was prejudicial due to R attorneys. Genius move.”
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Except how does that work?
The demonrat lawyers are all career criminals. Andrew Weisman? And several others who were nearly as notorious.
So how do people like that investigate their own cronies, their fellow Swamp Denizens, and keep their mouths shut, and don’t give a heads-up to their partners in crime?
And even if they could, who (especially POTUS) would believe they could be trusted to play it straight?

JasonD

Scott, that was my understanding of the sting. POTUS is innocent – so he’s not worried about himself. People like Manafort, persecuted for old charges ONLY because Trump campaign involvement get pardoned, Flynn gets restitution, Cohen gets ….. nothing from POTUS
Now the rabidly partisan team allows the swamp to think THEY are free and clear, while Huber gets on with the job out of sight.
That is how I envisaged it – how it actually played out, we shall have to see.

churchmouse

I’d never thought about that!
‘Genius move’, indeed.

Marica

What Patriot Girl and Clandestine RR retweeted was the theory I got busted by SD for…hmmm

phoenixRising

Did he comment on the tweet, or simply ban you Marica?

Marica

I didnt’ get banned—JUST yelled at in ALL CAPS! Something like ITS JUST A COINCIDENCE!!!! I thought–was this an over reaction/ or did I hit some kind of nerve?

phoenixRising

I’m sorry you were responded to in that manner.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I’LL BET YOU HIT SOME KIND OF NERVE!!!
(oops, sorry…)

Marica

STEVE!!! I AGREE!! LOL!! it was unnerving but it still makes me think SD may have to keep some things under wraps? I used to think he was asked by white hats not to get the true story out there… not so much anymore…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I’ve seen enough evidence now to be reasonably sure SD is someone who enjoys spending his time impressing people with how intelligent he is (and he loves lavish praise and a sycophantic following). The nerve you struck was pointing out something obvious that he was denying.

Marica

Dang Steve! Stop with you lavish praise! 😉 Could be could be…

TheseTruths

Agree. In addition, he casts doubt on others who have insider sources, who are close to the President, or who are very effective at their jobs. He has to be the one people look to. It makes me wonder if he’s threatened by some of the posters/posts and purges the site of them periodically.

Marica

It’s all good! we are here now and this year is gonna end with a giant BANG! and we are all gonna be here to ring in 2019!! Another glorious year with Donald J Trump still PRESIDENT!!! YES!!!!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

It’s such a shame to see you in such a down mood.
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.:D

Marica

I’m good as long as you don’t SERIOUSLY ALL CAP ME!! lol!!!!! Also—my last post over there was when–I forget who-said–Hey Marica–go fix another drink… Just mean–And I wasnt even drinking–then…:)

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

They were trying to change that.

Marica

for realz

Marica

https://twitter.com/TWPundit/status/1070480786787319809
Anyone else see this? Laura looks like she is gonna puke…

NebraskaFilly

Looked like a program from the ceremony?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

It does.
And she looked just as disgusted as JebZzzzz did.
Someone wrote a note in it?

NebraskaFilly

IDK

wheatietoo

That’s really interesting, isn’t it.

Plain Jane

Oh darn, I’m bad. My first thought was that they were being warned that the Federal Marshalls were waiting outside for the whole DS present at the party. I got pretty excited.

Marica

Jane!! Great first thought!! But as much as Jeb! is a huge low energy douche—I dont think he gets to go to Gitmo– unless he’s visiting family or friends 😉

Plain Jane

Bwahahaha. I would settle for that. He was probably kept in the dark about much. Not sure where he is on the IQ graph.

Johnny

Laura Bush had the look of evil for just a moment there. There is something wrong with her. And Jeb looked like he just lost his best friend.

phoenixRising

Laura was the spine behind Dubya… She is not the sweet, demure Southern lady you see.

Johnny

Actually,ya, thinking maybe that look was her joy that she could upset Jeb with whatever was in her hand. Wicked

Marica

Phoenix— Excellent deduction!! Dubya is a puppet STILL!

Deplorable Patriot

When it comes to the soft spoken southern belles, I always remember the killer in some mystery I read years ago. She was one, and the woman was a horticulturalist who specialized in carnivorous plants, the ones that eat insects.
They aren’t what they seem. At all.

Cuppa Covfefe

As Dorothy Parker said, “You can lead a Horticulture, but you can’t make her think” 🙂
(Said to be at a punning contest at the Algonquin club where they gave people words and they had to pun on the spot )…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I remember the Star Trek episode with the intelligent rock creatures called the Horta, who undoubtedly had a very advanced Horta culture.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I always wanted to tell Jane Fonda (who was anti-nuke) that she looked absolutely radiant today.

Cuppa Covfefe

THen there’s “The Little Shop Of Horrors” (a musical no less, with its man-eating plant): “FEED ME”…
Not forgetting “Sweeny Todd”, of course…

Marica

Maybe it said “low energy Jeb Bush” ? Or 41st President only got 1 term? Or it left out the H? WOAH… Next up?

wheatietoo

Maybe it said…”We’re not in the Will.”

Marica

You get NONE of the 1000 points of light!

wheatietoo

Hah.
Or maybe it was this picture:comment image

Marica

wheetie!! Well THAT”S hilarious!!!! can.not.stop.giggling.

Marica

Marica

Remember this? LOLOLOL!!

phoenixRising
phoenixRising

Lisa has a THREAD – click on tweet
https://twitter.com/LisaMei62/status/1070518056307298309

Cuppa Covfefe

Good to see the Paedostas getting the “attention” they so richly deserve…

wheatietoo

Hillary’s new exoskeleton is difficult to hide under more fitted clothing.
comment image
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But her makeup has improved since the campaign:comment image

JasonD

My lord, she’s looking younger by the day!!
If this rejuvenative process continues, she’ll be beat out the turkeys that will no doubt be lining up to cook her goose in the 2020 primaries.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

With a joke like that, you should feel entitled to a feather in your cap.

JasonD

I knew I would receive some thanksgiving …

Marica
phoenixRising

andrew1979

guys just a quick note on the u1 deal, the “sample” by RM, hilldawgs roll, etc…
the way i understood it to be was that there was this deal going down for u1, 2008-2009 era.
time travel back to 2006… the US (some agency or agencies) was doing some kind of operation “against” clandestine radioactive materials smuggling…
anyway somewhere in 2006 the US came into possession of like some amount lets say like 120 grams of HEU in the russian territory of georgia. russia alleged that thee HEU could have been their property which had been “stolen” from them.
meanwhile the russians and the US (bush43) govts. were trying to do a deal on uranium rights (not yet known as U1 in the popular lexicon.
2007 turns into 2008… HEU seized in the sting still in our possession somewhere. not sure what is being said but uranium talks/negotiations still engaged.
in 2008 russia invades or somehow infringes on georgia in a mean way. we already know from my statement above the US has been tooling around in the area for a while, definitely since their sting op in 2006 when the HEU was recovered. so assume we cleared out or laid low or assisted in this russian aggression against georgia…BUT at the same time bush state department decides to cut off talks with russia regarding uranium as punishment for the unjust aggression in georgia…sound familiar end of administration some kind of hack job russia bad narrative comes out.
meanwhile money had been pouring into clinton foundation all this time because she had been running fior president for a bit and people were getting in line to play…
election 2008 and change comes to america do you know what i mean! russia still in poiticaal doghouse because georgia. but fear not because hillary is now sos. more money rolling in now. probably need a reset button on russia guys. more money coming in…
uranium talks resume after much love is professed and buttons pushed.
2009…one day russian and american guys are out having a smoke at a break in the uranium talks, they are happy things are going good, money flowing, russian guy says hey you remember that HEU that you sieed that we think was stolen? how abuot we get a little sameple of it to see if it matches our markers.
robert mueller is fbi boss. word comes down through state dept to get a little sample and deliver it too the guys we are doing business with as a favor to see if it was their stolen stuff. rm takes a snall vial placed inside a blast proof cylinder form fitting. cylinder is laid in a foam lined mini attache case which is closed and locked with a thumbprint and maybe a wax seal stamped with the ring on robs right hand to double verify authenticity.
mueller flies to moscow and delivers the mini attache case on the order of presumably hillary because her/office cabled all players involved saying mueller would indeed be flying in and would have the case containing the sample of HEU siezed by a US clandestine op in 2006 which the russians wanted to se if it was their looted stash..i mean just for closure to heal the would of the theft.
2010. usanium deal reached with russia!
much money has been flowwing the whole time to CF…
so the question is – 2006 wth was going on…sketchy bush kill deal…deal back and better than ever…deal done.
so really the only thing i keep wondering is what all was going on here? the sample wwas not the uranium rights it was a whole separate matter.

para59r

A few days back someone here posted an eye opening Brian Cates Twitter thing that centered the entire Russian Collusion thing over U1, saying everything that followed was a result of covering that up.

Deplorable Patriot

These are details that have gotten lost as time has passed. Thank you.

wheatietoo

Wolf…Thanks for posting these threads for us with the Q-drops.
I appreciate it.
I noticed some of the Anons were wondering about Q’s use of “XMAS” in no. 2557…instead of saying ‘Christmas’.
Actually, I was wondering about that too.
Q wished everyone “Merry Christmas” last year.
And he surely would know that some people have an aversion to seeing Christmas written as ‘Xmas’.
But he also put it in All Caps.
“XMAS”
One Anon posted this:
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Possible ways to interpret the “X” in Q Drop 2557:
* “ten more” (X plus “mas” = 10 more days??)
* “X” mass = Christmas mass
* positive vs negative (Christ vs Christ x-ed out)
* traditional vs commercial/atheist meaning of Xmas (Xmas is synonym for Christmas) vs (“Xmas” intentionally used to negate/diminish Christmas)
* (placeholder/unknown variable) vs (“x marks the spot”)
Did I miss any??
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(From me:) Another Anon posted this:
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Camp XRay (GITMO)?
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(Me:) And another posted this:
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Yes,
X as a place holder for US vs X in indictments.
See pic for Q drop 2070.
Sealed names (Xs) unsealed in mass.comment image
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(Me:) This is a reply from another Anon:
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I remember looking through the data a bit and damn near every single one was USA VS. X…. so he’s saying Huber’s team is churning most those bad boys out.
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(Me:) I thought this was an interesting discussion, so I posted it here.
So when Q asked: “What do you want for XMAS?”
Was he referring to a roundup of FBI guys for Gitmo?
I hope so!

Deplorable Patriot

The anons need to learn some history about Christianity.
In Greek, X or Chi, is the first letter in Christ.That is why the word Christmas is shortened to Xmas. Chi is an ancient symbol for Christ. In my faith, we use this all the time especially with a Rho going through the Chi.
Why Q chose that spelling…that’s another matter.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

In Greek, X or Chi, is the first letter in Christ.

In St. Peter’s basilica in the Vatican, way, way up there is lettering ten feet tall, most of which is in Latin. But near the nave some is in Greek and the name of Christ is recognizable there: ΧΡΙΣΤΟΥ.
I’ve seen “Xian” used as an abbreviation for “Christian” by the same logic as in Xmas (and sometimes, illogically, Xtian, but that has two t’s in it).
You’re right, Xmas shouldn’t bug Christians, but it does bug many of them, ones who don’t know the history and that Xianity has its roots in the Greek-speaking eastern part of the Roman empire.

Deplorable Patriot

There’s a lot that got left behind when the revolt happened. The Greek is part of it. And we still use Greek for Ichthyus, or fish, which was one of the original Christian symbols.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I see “Jesus fish” that say “JESUS” and others that say “IXOYE” which on closer examination is actually “ΙΧΘΥΣ” which is not just Greek for fish but also an acronym: Ιησους Χριστóς Θεοῦ Υἱός Σωτήρ or in Latin lettering Iesous KHristos THeou Uios Soter, Jesus Christ God Son Savior.
Somebody, almost two thousand years ago, was quite clever with words.

Deplorable Patriot

Yes.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

(I was pretty certain you already knew it, but of course others are reading here too who might not.)

Deplorable Patriot

Yeah, I’ve had to explain a lot of ancient symbolism over the years.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

(I cheerfully admit I had to look up what the acronym expanded to–but, I did know it was an acronym, so I knew what I didn’t know. At some point, one offloads things not accessed often, to reference books.)
When I see an ichthus fish on a car, I generally figure that the driver is a Christian with a higher-than-average level of knowledge about Christianity and its history.

singularZoe

I might have thought that, too, at one time, Steve. sorry to say those I know with the most knowledge of background and history of Christianity wouldn’t drive around with a fish symbol on their cars. It’s become more of a “Look at me, I want to identify as a “Christian”” thing than a sign of being a well-grounded believer. I’m generalizing, realize there are exceptions, so if anyone has a fish on their car, please don’t think I’m pointing at you. I’m not. Lol.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

All reasonable observations.

wheatietoo

This screencap that Q posted:comment image
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Refers to this:
[video src="https://media.8ch.net/file_store/2c41356d0578a718f02e7f6a0d63d78a46d431c7ce2d6df0d105558cef24bdcf.mp4" /]
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I hope this mp4 clip posts.
It shows that President Trump and FL Melania didn’t participate in the recitation of the ‘Apostles Creed’.
Which they are being criticized for, by the enemedia.
I don’t really understand why they didn’t recite it, but I’m sure they had a Good Reason.
Many Anons are cheering them for it.
They say that a lot of Christians don’t recite that…something about the “false church”.
Maybe someone here could explain this, if they know.

wheatietoo

Drat. That mp4 video didn’t post.
Perhaps Wolfie can fix that somehow so it will show up.
Hope so.
It shows that the evil ones were having to read their programs, to know what to recite.

wheatietoo

That stuff with the bracket + the word ‘video’ + src=…just appears on it’s own, doesn’t it.
It wasn’t on the link that I posted.
Is that what you mean by “burps on it”?
There was that time before when you managed to clear that stuff off and the mp4 posted.
But I don’t know how you did it.

wheatietoo

Thanks!

churchmouse

I do not know why they did not recite it, especially as the text would have been in the programme. (Not a good look, IMHO.)
The Apostles Creed is **not**, whatever Anons say, about the false Church. I had to memorise it for Religion class as a child. My mother thought that was an excellent assignment.
It encapsulates the basics of Christian doctrine.

churchmouse

Given that the National Cathedral is Episcopalian, I hope they would have labelled it as the Apostles Creed.
I doubt the Trumps got specially labelled programmes.
For those unaware, there are three accepted Christian creeds: Apostles, Nicene and Athanasian.
Some denoms (e.g. Reformed, Baptist) do not use the Nicene Creed for various reasons. Hence the use of the Apostles Creed.
‘Catholic’ in the creeds’ context means ‘universal’, not Roman Catholic.

wheatietoo

Well, all the usual Trump-haters in the enemedia are stroking this.
They seem to think they see a weakness and are trying to exploit it…calling PDJT a “phony Christian” because he didn’t recite the words.
Pres Trump will probably explain it, eventually.
Like I said, I don’t think he and FL Melania would’ve done that without a Good Reason.

Deplorable Patriot

I’m going to take issue with the two Creeds being “nearly identical.” Nope. The Nicean is like three paragraphs longer. Catholics recite it every non Lenten Sunday. The Apostles’ Creed is recited on Pentacost and is one of the prayers we’re supposed to say daily.
And, I have suspicions about why there was non-participation. But, it’s a we don’t know what we don’t know situation.

Deplorable Patriot

My first response to this did not post, so I am going to try again without getting into the True Church discussion.
The two Creeds are nowhere close to identical. Trust me. Church going Catholics recite the Nicean all but seven Sundays a year (Lent and Pentacost when we say the Apostles Creed). We know them both by heart.
I have an idea of why Melania, anyway, didn’t participate, but it’s a case of we don’t really know what we don’t know.

Deplorable Patriot

Sorry for the double post, but the first one did not appear when the page refreshed.

singularZoe

@Wolfmoon, of course you know that “catholic” in the creed does not refer to a specific church, but to the church universal. And yes, it is pretty much used by main-line churches.

wheatietoo

I’ve been reading about it.
Evangelicals and some Christian denominations object to the part that says:
“I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy Catholic Church,”
They say that it elevates the Catholic Church to the same level as God.
Some versions of the Creed, have modified it and don’t capitalize “Catholic”.
Other versions have modified it to…”the holy Christian Church”.
But still…there are people who object to the implied elevation of church to the same level as the Holy Spirit.
I don’t know which ‘version’ was printed in those funeral programs that they were reading from.
But maybe that had something to do with it?
I dunno.

churchmouse

No one should object to the ‘catholic’ church in the creed.
Notice that it is not capitalised.
This is because ‘catholic’ means ‘universal’, not Roman Catholic.
***As to elevation of the Church, she is Christ’s Bride.***
Pseudo-Christians — i.e. those who object to the wording of the creeds — should study the theology behind them before pontificating.
They are spouting rubbish, nothing more.

wheatietoo

It may seem like “rubbish” to you, Churchmouse…but it doesn’t to millions of Evangelicals and other Christians.
God didn’t invent religion, mankind did.
A person can be a Christian without being a member of any church.
Perhaps this is Pres Trump’s way of being neutral about it all.
He does try to be President to everyone.

churchmouse

My key points were the following:
1/ … ‘catholic’ means ‘universal’, not Roman Catholic.
2/ ***As to elevation of the Church, she is Christ’s Bride.***
3/ Pseudo-Christians — i.e. those who object to the wording of the creeds — should study the theology behind them before pontificating.
A lot of Evangelicals do not understand theology and they know next to nothing about Church history! Those creeds were written for a reason!
I’m not upset with you, wheatie, but these people objecting to creeds that are 1700 years old are peddling FAKE NEWS OF THE RELIGIOUS SORT.
Everyone who takes proper Religious Ed either at a responsible church school or at a decent church Sunday School is told about the meaning of the word ‘catholic’ in the creeds.
I’ve said what I have to say on this topic — I have nothing more to add — but am glad we had the opportunity to discuss it.

GA/FL

The Creeds were written for a reason – too many people follow their own ideas that lead them away from the True Gospel of Salvation.
St. Vincent of Lerins said we must hold to ‘what was believed always, everywhere and by all.’
The tendency and desire to change the gospel occurred from the very beginning of Christianity. There were heresies from the first century….even while Sts. Paul, Peter and John were alive. See the book of Jude.
That is a good word!

GA/FL

I meant St. Vincent of Lerin’s admonition is a good word!

churchmouse

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GA/FL for an excellent comment supporting the Creeds!

GA/FL

Even the Creeds don’t protect against all heresies and apostasies (Example, the Episcopalians and Church of England which have embraced pansexualism, a gender-neutral god and and syncretism and a host of other errors).
The Creeds didn’t stop the power-struggle, competition and the tragic split between the eastern and western church either.
The filioque (which is most definitely Scriptural- see* below) was the excuse for the split, but there were many factors.
*JOHN – Trinity of Scriptures proving the Filioque
15:26 – “But when the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness about me. 27 And you also will bear witness, because you have been with me from the beginning.
16:7 – Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you.
16:15 – All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will receive from me what he will make known to you.”
In fact, one of Orthodoxy’s most beloved Icons – Rublev’s Trinity – depicts the Filioque – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_(Andrei_Rublev)
Jesus is sitting at the right hand of the Father, and they are both looking at and sending the Holy Spirit, dressed in gold, anointed for His work on earth. There can be no other interpretation without putting Christ at the Father’s left hand.

singularZoe

I was always taught it (catholic) was not capitalized and did not refer to Rome, but to the universal Christian church. Yes, there have always been heresies like, for example, Gnosticism. The letters of John warn about heresies, too, as doe Jude.

singularZoe

I recited it growing up, too. It was not, of course, written by the apostles. I always liked it.

Deplorable Patriot

It’s a good question, and I have an idea, but, um, that specific rule is not observed all that often anymore.
Keep an eye out though for participation from them in other church services.

singularZoe

Wheatie, that is interesting. I think M. is either Orthodox or Roman Catholic. Some Christians think reciting creeds is ‘”vain repetition,'” but mystified why the Trumps did not do it.

Deplorable Patriot

Both Catholics and Orthodox are technically not supposed to participate in protestant services. Technically. I don’t know about the Orthodox, but Catholics are really only supposed to go to weddings and funerals also. I haven’t seen this done in a long time, though.

singularZoe

DeplorablePatriot, I suspect that may be the most likely explanation.

Deplorable Patriot

So, did I, but I don’t want to start rumors with suspicions.

singularZoe

Wheatie, there may have been more recitation going on than just the Apostles Creed–I am told there may have been some masonic recitations, in which case I can understand the non-participation by the Trumps. I do not know this to be true, speculation only.

wheatietoo

I wish we could see what was on those funeral programs, that people were reading from.

singularZoe

@Wheatie, so do I.

Pat Frederick

reading here about the “other site” i am as baffled as the rest of you. I always thought that knowledge was fluid–you form your theories on what is currently known and then make your assumptions. As more information becomes available or known to you, your theories might change. you accept it and begin again. it’s like putting a puzzle together without seeing the picture on the front. you may think you’re constructing a zoo scene, only as the piece come together it’s not a zoo but a jungle.
There came a moment when SD’s zoo turned into a jungle and instead of accepting it and going with the flow, he seemed to get really dark.