Dear MAGA: Open Topic 20181125

This SPECIAL THANKSGIVING SUNDAY (variously referred to by numerous insufficiently sacred and competing commercial names that we shall not repeat) open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.

Say what you want, comment on what other people said, comment on people’s comments.  Keep it civil.  Treehouse rules, but expect lots of QAnon.

And YES – we ARE THANKFUL for GOD and COUNTRY.

No illegalities, please, or we get shall ban you and pour merciless scorn upon the proglodytes who sent your hoaxy ass this way.

W

We don’t need warnings against antisemitism in OUR Bibles, but some people need warnings against Nazi-inciting, jihadist-coddling communism in their “Welcome to Campus” brochures.
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SteveInCO

Well, it has been 545 days (or so) since I was first banned from the Old Tree House.
Not that I’m counting, mind you.
We come up on Dec 5, almost certainly signaled by Q to be the cue for Something Big happening.

JasonD

Not had occasion to use Uber, so don’t know if they are any good… Which makes me wonder about Huber …
Interestingly, the letter H is 8’th in the alphabet ….
Q is 17’th, as we all should know by now …
17 = 1+7 = 8 Hmmm ….
Coinkydink? Me thinks …. What?
So H may be very special indeed. Add it to an uber, and we get Huber!!!

JasonD

Yup, I am just joining in the fun with the numbers, cause a couple of poster’s here seem into it. As you can see from my post, it is all in good humour.
I actually have some experience with it and have learnt that your right hemisphere is scanning for meaning in your peripheral vision. If you think something is meaning full – you WILL see more of it. Your attention is subconsciously drawn to focus on these numbers when they appear in your visual field.

SteveInCO

This is why I don’t accept alleged “Q proofs” that relate to numerological methods or numeric coincidences. As many numbers and disconnected letters as Q throws out there, you can do arithmetic to some part of it to get basically anything desired out of it. It’s almost like a Rorschach test.

daughnworks247

On numerology – brings back memories.
When I was a kid, my dad was transferred from Chicago to New Orleans. My parents were overly paranoid about school system in Louisiana. After searching and interviewing at many private schools, they enrolled me in a very small private school for kids with a high IQ. I was only 10, had skipped a couple of grades, and was going into 6th grade at the time.
I remember being scared, taking the IQ test. What if I didn’t do well? Didn’t get accepted? Would dad be disappointed? Apparently I was ‘okay’ (huge relief), and 6th grade began.
There were only 13 kids in all of 6th grade. In 7th grade, there were 7 of us. In 8th grade, the same 7. No hiding in those classes, everyone was in the front row. Over half were Jewish kids, which was cool because I went to Bar Mitzvahs and Bat Mitzvahs. Classes in the morning were straight math/english/history/science but rigorous.
Classes in the afternoon were like a wonderland and I thrived.
We had everything from Aesop’s fables/myths/Shakespeare, Latin and French every year, world topography/mapmaking, Roman and Greek empires, specific classes on exploration/trade routes and commodities important at the time compared to trade/transportation and commodities today, European and Russian composers/art, history of China, Egypt, Aztecs and Mayans, the Dutch Hegemony, British Empire, and Persia conquest, along with architecture of the ancients.
We even dissected an eye, then a hand, than a human body at Tulane Medical (that was cool and no one threw up). We experimented with chemistry to blow things up or dissolve them, and traveled from Canada to the swamps of Louisiana to look at geology/strata on how the earth developed.
Debate was encouraged and we had public speaking classes, to the point we were filmed speaking extemporaneously on a given subject to weed out our ticks of swaying/pointing/stuttering/’ums and yeahs’.
Memorization of a list to music, repeating it forwards and backwards, and speedreading were plugged in skills.
But…..
Mathematics became a whole new world.
The mathematics ‘super classes’ in the afternoon were intense, more like math as a language. We learned to add/subtract/multiply/divide and estimate with great rapidity, in our minds, in front of others, thinking quickly, while being peppered by classmates. It made us comfortable with math and thus, algebra was easier. We were constantly breaking codes, alpha or numeric, and often our regular morning exams were given to us in code. Numerology/patterns/ flipping images/find the oddity and do it quickly, word problems and puzzles, the game of chess, were all commonplace and became a sport in class as well as our spare time.
We were never bored and we were definitely challenged.
What the heck were they training us to do?
Who puts together that kind of curriculum?
Whatever or whomever did it, it was FUN!
I couldn’t wait to go to school in the morning and we went 1/2 hour earlier and stayed an hour longer than the public school kids.
When my children were small, I diligently searched for a school with this kind of curriculum to no avail. What we did in middle school was only available in private high schools and in small parts, not all. Kids had been dumbed down. Their summer reading lists were 4-5 years behind schedule and our kids were largely bored with school. I often included puzzles and books for extra interest in their backpacks. We sent them to summer camps for extra learning all over the world.
We shouldn’t limit our children’s curiosity and they are far more capable than we think they are.
We should let their minds run freely, within a structure of competent academics who encourage them to explore higher levels.
Such a policy would make us a much stronger country.

SteveInCO

@daughnworks,
That does sound like a wonderful place. I was in public school, no one ever got to skip a grade by the time I was going (and I remember exactly once a kid being left back). But I was lucky enough to have parents, and very often, teachers who would indulge my curiosity, or at least leave my alone while I indulged it, and I did a lot on my own too. My first couple of teachers had the sense to just let me plow through the material as fast as I could.
If I were going into the system today…well, I shudder to think of it. Even leaving aside the falsehoods and propaganda, it probably would have destroyed me.

Covadonga

Second that, Steve.
Randomization can give you a game-theoretic advantage over an adversary. But, other than that, and in literary symbolism, tea leaf reading is of no value.

Spab

Theological Studies already has its Q Source, the subject of countless monographs. I imagine that there will, at some point, be a doctoral thesis in the Political Sciences field entitled, “Analysis of the Q Data and Its Significance During the Trump Presidency.” There may even be a Q Chair in the Political Science Department of one of the Ivy League colleges. It is possible that we may be underestimating Q’s importance. Perhaps only the Shadow knows.

Covadonga

“Theological Studies already has its Q Source”
Yes, Q = Quelle, German for “source”. One of the threads in the Bible, isn’t it?

Spab

Along with the Gospel of Mark it is theorized as early source material for the Gospels of Matthew and Luke.

SteveInCO

If memory serves, Bible Q is the source that both “Matthew” and “Luke” got many of the sayings of Jesus from. We don’t have any copies of Bible Q, but infer its existence from the fact that the two gospel authors quote Jesus exactly the same way in multiple circumstances. Someone else recorded the words of Jesus at (or nearly at) the time, and “Matthew” and “Luke” both used it as source material. (The author of “Luke” even says, at the beginning, he pieced together his gospel from multiple sources.) Of course since we don’t have a copy of Bible Q, it could be multiple different sources they both had access to. (Incidentally, they call source material that “Matthew” has that “Luke” doesn’t, “M”, and for vice versa, “L”.)
Now as to why I put “Matthew” and “Luke” in quotes, it’s because there is NO evidence from within the two gospels going by those names that their authors were in fact people named “Matthew” and “Luke.” (Unlike the epistles of Paul, which all say, in essence, “This is Paul writing” at the beginning of the text.) The titles, chapter headings, and chapter and verse numberings were not part of our oldest manuscripts. “Matthew” and “Luke” are ascribed to those people by tradition, not on the basis of any actual scriptural evidence. This is true of the other two gospels as well–the author does not name himself in the text.

SteveInCO

…and I can see that Spab got there first and more concisely. I hope my added verbiage wasn’t a waste of people’s time.

Covadonga

Steve,
You had a very cogent and helpful explanation, as did Spab.
Thank you both.
I’ve read books on this subject in the past, along with the Qumran scrolls, Nag Hammadi gnostic library, and so forth. But none of it recently enough for it to swim into focus before your replies.

Plain Jane

Posts like I read here in WQTH, as shown in this thread, are the reason I tell DH that my IQ raises several points every time I come here. Thank you Wolfie for expanding my universe. Thank you, you insightful, knowledgeable commenters.

andrew1979

the suspense is killing me almost as much as the dread of not really being fully prepared! something definitely brewing though whether q said something or not. i am not much into the day and time thing. and frankly not into depending on one source as infalliable. but in myself i know when something is up…

churchmouse

Two-week anniversary of the Q Purge, November 11, 2018.

tomf

Veterans Day

churchmouse

Not only that, it was the centenary of Armistice Day.
A very poor choice of day. Could patriot SD not have waited for another?

SteveInCO

Maybe he only observes it on Monday.

Cuppa Covfefe

Speaking of numbers and numerology, the Armistice was signed 11.11 at 11:11. And THAT was on purpose.
There are “magic numbers” to the elite (banksters, illuminati, globalists, etc.): 3,6,7,11,13,18 and multiples thereof. 18 (especially as 6+6+6), 666, and 999 (inverted 666) are especially important to them. They do everything by the numbers (superstitious doesn’t even come close). http://www.cuttingedge.org and http://www.crossroad.to have more on this, as well as vigilantcitizen.com.

SteveInCO

My brother was a cashier, and he made sure to log off, then back onto the system at (20)11/11/11 11:11 just to create the tape with all ones on it.

Cuppa Covfefe

In twos-complement arithmetic, in binary, -1 is a string of ones, often used as a “stopper” in memory or compiler output (going back a long, LONG time there).
I always wanted to give one of those “thumpa-thumpa” car guys an OS data disc, just to see what would happen when their CD player hit a string of -1s. With all bits set to one, that could be really lout 🙂
Speaker cones shooting out through the grilles 🙂
OK, sorry, just a thought experiment… and yeah, most CD players wouldn’t attempt to play a data disc. Although there are some Sony compact systems that will (don’t ask 🙂 )…

SteveInCO

LOL. Yes, I understood that.
Somehow I’m not surprised Sony did that. I stopped buying anything from them ages ago because they had an assclown designing their user interfaces. Picture a portable CD player that insisted on resetting the volume to Full Blast whenever it shut down/restarted! The second time it blows your eardrums into your skull when you put on your headphones and start it is the basically the time I decided the person who came up with THAT bright idea needed a rubber hose session.

Plain Jane

I’m bad. I got the boot and never noted the date. Don’t miss it either..

singularZoe

I had to wait so long for the space to type my comment to show up, I completely forgot my comment. Lol.

Plain Jane

That sometimes happens to me even if there is no wait. LOL. The comment you made though gave my a chuckle, so it was effective.

churchmouse

For me, it was because every Remembrance Sunday there is a televised ceremony in Whitehall in front of the Cenotaph.
This Remembrance Sunday was significant because it also marked the date the Armistice was signed a century ago.
I watched most of the walk past of the different regiments past and present then returned to CTH only to find SD’s rather ill-timed Q post. After having watched such a beautiful, thought-provoking morning and early afternoon ceremony, it struck me as a thoughtless and ignorant move by someone who rather prides himself on patriotism and doing the right thing.

Plain Jane

That ceremony sounds impressive. Yes, even I would then remember the date. That obviously would be ingrained into one’s memory. That move by him had to feel like a huge betrayal.

churchmouse

It did indeed, Jane. Thank you for understanding — greatly appreciated.
The BBC (as much as I criticise it normally) always does a fine job in remembering ‘The Glorious Dead’, the words carved into the Cenotaph remembering those who died for our freedom in the First World War.
Since then, the meaning has extended to the Second World War and subsequent conflicts. That said, the original significance is still very much alive:comment image
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cenotaph%2C_Whitehall
The BBC’s programming was extended by 75 minutes this year, which means that there were many more than the usual number of 10,000 who marched past.

Plain Jane

Thank you Churchmouse. I never knew about this. As a matter of fact, civics was non existent in grade and high school for me. History was very sparse even in college history classes. Sad. Anything I learned was on my own.

churchmouse

I’m sorry to read that, Jane.
I had lots of US and world history throughout primary and high school, which included essays, memorisations and tough tests. My classmates and I also had to pass a state-wide test on the US Constitution in junior year. If you flunked the test, you had to retake it until you passed — or you didn’t graduate from high school. My era was from the mid-1960s to mid-1970s.
I’m sorry you had to learn such the history of a one-of-a-kind (amazing!) nation on your own … but am glad you did!

Plain Jane

Thanks churchmouse. Once I met DH, and we started to exchange life info, I realized how cheated I was by my schooling. I would ask him how he knew such and such. His answers were usually directed at a specific teacher, and he remambered their names.
The only thing really positive in all 12 years of Catholic education, was the nuns who taught me excelled in teaching and offering His Love. Two nuns in particular did instill confidence in me, Sr. Assumpta and Sr. Mercedes. I will never forget them.
High school, not so much.

churchmouse

Well, I had 14 years of Catholic education.
I’m surprised and saddened to read of your experience. My sincere commiserations.
Like your DH, I can remember my teachers’ names, the subjects they taught and, with regard to History and English, what years I learned them (and from whom).

SteveInCO

For whatever reason, in the US WWI is much more of a forgotten war than it is in Europe. We don’t even call it Armistice Day any more, we turned it into Veterans day and often observe it on whatever Monday nearby is most convenient.
I just finished a book on the US involvement in the war. VERY uncomplimentary to Woodrow Wilson. Enough blame to go around though.

churchmouse

Europeans remember it because it was fought here and all the war memorials, museums and cemeteries are here.
Interestingly, a 96-year-old American from San Diego marched past with a regiment of British Army engineers with whom he had fought in the Second World War. He probably already has his booking for 2019, as he told a BBC reporter that was one of the first things he was going to do when he got home. His time with those engineers was a pivotal experience for him.
‘I just finished a book on the US involvement in the war. VERY uncomplimentary to Woodrow Wilson.’ Paris has a boulevard named after him. Other French cities (Lyon, Reims, etc.) have streets, bridges and other public places named after him. I never heard a French person criticise him, and they — until recently (i.e. the younger generation) — are all well-versed amateur historians.
I’m not defending him, just saying that not everyone sees him from an American perspective.
On the other hand, I can’t think of a British city or town that has anything named after him. So, there’s that.
Judging from what I have read in recent years, he wasn’t quite the man I learned about in US History class.
Calvin Coolidge seemed a more decent president, but no one talks about him.

SteveInCO

Calvin Coolidge seemed a more decent president, but no one talks about him.

And he was known as “Silent Cal” so he probably returned the favor. I could tell some stories but they’d be a digression.
This book claims that Wilson should have been truly neutral in the War, refusing to sell munitions to the Allies. If that had happened, there would probably have been some sort of negotiated settlement in 1916.
Instead we ended up with Germany half starved to death (The UK did NOT slacken its blockade after the armistice) and saddled with such huge reparations they simply caused bitterness on the part of Germany (and they defaulted, but the bitterness was still there). Germany had only agreed to negotiate because they thought it would be based on the 14 points but Wilson let Clemenceau and George ditch every one of them except for the League.
That’s what the book claims, at any rate…

churchmouse

Thank you, Steve.
I do remember these two points from history class, which you mention:
1/ ‘… claims that Wilson should have been truly neutral in the War, refusing to sell munitions to the Allies.’ The beginning of the military-industrial complex?
2/ ‘Germany had only agreed to negotiate because they thought it would be based on the 14 points but Wilson let Clemenceau and George ditch every one of them except for the League.’
Those are accurate, from what I can remember from history class. Diplomacy is complicated for high school students, as my classmates and I were at the time. It was difficult to make sense of, especially when the League of Nations sounded good on paper.
‘Silent Cal’ was probably appropriately modest about his tenure as president. If it’s okay with moon, I’m happy to read what your research has to say about him — anytime.

SteveInCO

Oh, it’s not really research, just some lore I hear from people that is amusing.
He was a man of very few words.
A woman met him at some sort of event, and said, “Pleased to meet you, Mr. President. I made a bet with my best friend I could get you to say more than two words.” His response: “You lose.”
One time visiting a chicken ranch his wife came up to him and pointed out that the rooster mated several times a day. His response: “Same hen?”

churchmouse

Thanks for the chuckles!

churchmouse

Really??
Wow, I’ll have to go research. I really liked what I’ve read about him but know very little about his time in office. Sadly, he was a bit of a footnote in our US History class.
Campaign slogan: ‘Keep cool with Coolidge’.
If you or SteveInCO want to ever share anything in the meantime about him, please do. I’d be fascinated.

Covadonga

Calvin Coolidge and Abraham Lincoln, as well as the Founding Fathers and the Framers of the Constitution, and the books they read, were all huge influences on Ronald Reagan.

churchmouse

Brilliant!
Thank you, Covadonga!

Linda

I love that commemorative coin with POTUS and Cyrus the Great. I wonder how a person could get one.

andrew1979

plenty of choices on the big auction site…

Sylvia Avery

Were you walking like an Egyptian?

Sylvia Avery

Loved The Bangles!

singularZoe

Lol.

SteveInCO

Drat. I was hoping to see what it was they used to make that “gong” noise that shows up twice in the song.

SteveInCO

It’s a day too soon for Manic Monday, so that was pretty much going to be it unless Wolf has the albums and knows other songs of theirs.

Cuppa Covfefe

Drat. And here I was thinking of Ray Stevens and “Ahab the Ay-Rab”… 🙂

Sylvia Avery

Ha, Ray Stevens. He was great!

trumpismine

I want 1 !

zoontexas

Blacklisted II: Double Blackout – #SorosRentBoy @FranklinLeonard an In-Q-Tel Tool? #Scriptchat #AidToo #GreatAwakening #BlacklistAnon #NEONREVOLT
November 21, 2018 by Neon Revolt
https://www.neonrevolt.com/2018/11/21/blacklisted-ii-double-blackout-sorosrentboy-franklinleonard-an-in-q-tel-tool-scriptchat-aidtoo-greatawakening-blacklistanon-neonrevolt/

andrew1979

highly reccomend this. the big story here is all the linking and supporters of these groups right down to personnel going from one to another…
this is the first time i had been to NR to be honest. a few days ago someone linked it here and i actually just fiished reading the article today.

Deplorable Patriot

Yeah, I’ll have to dig it up, but somebody along the line did a whole thing on the personnel who go from Monsanto (bought out by Bayer) to the FDA and USDA and back again all the time. Then there’s the go form government to the think tanks and back and forth depending on which party has the White House. Been going on for a long time, and the information is readily available. It’s just not served up on a silver platter by the MSM.

tomf

Finished reading the link. Took a while.
The rabbit hole is very deep indeed.

trumpismine

TY – great read

Plain Jane

Will get to read tomorrow night after kids leave for home from extended weekend here.

Elizabeth Carter

It looks like an exciting day is in store according to Gateway Pundit
INVASION: Honduran Migrant Says 20,000 Will March Through Vehicle Lanes at Border, Claims That Applying for Asylum is ‘Waste of Time’
by Cassandra Fairbanks November 24, 2018 356 Comments
Migrants in the Central American caravan heading towards the US border are planning to wait until an expected 20,000 migrants arrive in Tijuana and then enter the United States illegally en masse, according to a report.
The group plans to attempt to illegally enter the US through vehicle lanes at San Ysidro, because “it’s more spacious.”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/11/invasion-honduran-migrant-says-20000-will-march-through-vehicle-lanes-at-border-says-applying-for-asylum-is-waste-of-time/

SteveInCO

Twenty thousand (or so) rushing the post all at once…even if it were only a thousand, that would get interesting in a hurry.
And someone posted yesterday a report of rocks being thrown at Border Patrol officers somewhere.

SteveInCO

“We’ll stay together and be strong, and then move on to the U.S.,” he said. “Peacefully, like people going from one country to another. Marching.”

Question: If 20,000 people walk through your front yard “peacefully” it’s still trespass, right?
(I don’t really need any help figuring that one out 🙂 )

JasonD

Testing the “Too big to fail” principle …
Looks like it s about to get real down there …

Cuppa Covfefe

The song that comes to mind is “Tanks for the Memories”…

Sylvia Avery

Oh honestly. These people are making my lose my patience. Not that I had any to begin with, mind you.
We should all be very thankful I am not in charge. I’d handle it right quick. Might be a messy aftermath to sort out, but I bet it wouldn’t ever be attempted again.
I thank God for PDJT.

Sylvia Avery

And in the perfect scenario, some crowd control agents would drift toward the press pack…And Jim Acosta would cry like a little girl.

SteveInCO

I read this several hours ago and took it as meaning agents, like government agents. No, you meant chemical agents, the gas drifting towards them. SMH.
😀

Cuppa Covfefe

Shovels to the left of them
Shovels to the right of them
Into the valley of sharply-pointed-garden-implements
Rode the 600, er, 20,000…

Sylvia Avery

🙂 🙂 🙂

SteveInCO

Oh, that’s frigging awesome!

para59r

Tommorow’s event will not have those numbers but if what is foretold comes about it may well be quite interesting. Read the story for the details.

trumpismine

thanks, couple days of reading to do and jist logged on a few minutes ago 🙂

trumpismine

more coffee for me and my jist -I mean just

GA/FL

The 20K invaders will be going up against SecDef Mattis and the US Military with orders to use lethal force if necessary to protect Border Patrol and US Border.

Sauce

…and I would guess there will be an array of these types of crowd suppression weapons.

Hope we get video of it in action

A.D. Everard

YES. Love these things. I really hope they use these! And film it (I want to see that mob scatter). No blood, no death, nothing for fake news to lock onto and utilize against POTUS.

Plain Jane

Tanks anyone. Water cannons?

NebraskaFilly

I am guessing this was already posted somewhere and I missed it but I am posting it anyway. It is WAY too historical not to, IMO. The video of the No. and So. Koreans shaking hands at the border. Who, on God’s green earth, would have EVER thought we would be seeing this only 2 years after electing our VSG???? Seriously!

North & South Korean Soldiers Shaking Hands at the Border from HumansBeingBros

SteveInCO

Someone did post something about this (I don’t know if it was this particular thing).
Even if so, it bears repeating!

NebraskaFilly

I thought so. Simply incredible, IMO!

NebraskaFilly

Particularly because my Dad and my niece both served there.

zoontexas

Everything is infected the number of 501c3’s involved is staggering.

JasonD

Wolf, case in point …
Aboriginal “welfare” is an industry here that has been going for many decades and growing in real terms.
Every year, the aboriginal social indicators decline, which result in MORE money …
The system rewards failure …
Today, Aboriginal health in remote townships is worse than comparable communities in South Africa. Australia had 7x the per capita income than South Africa when I migrated here 13 yrs ago. Today that disparity is greater.
There is no incentive to reverse course, not from the Aboriginal “leaders”, who are the conduits of the cash from government, or the bureaucracy whose jobs depend on the “problem” persisting.
Go figure. Unaccountable bureaucracy is evil.
Same same with educational performance – the worse the performance, the more funding is thrown at it.
If failure is rewarded you can guarantee MORE FAILURE.
This is not hard – but no one want to deal with it.

para59r

And how do they rule from that? Only answer is complete and total tyranny.

Disney Echo

“So the irony is REVERSAL. Climate SCIENCE turns into harm of science. Climate Charity turns into Climate SCAMMING.
CHILD CHARITY turns into CHILD TRAFFICKING.
MEDICAL CHARITY turns into MEDICAL SCAMMING.”
Think ‘mirror’. -Q

judyw

WM, I agree the “big picture money” and how to get in on it are at the heart of all the destruction and who better than POTUS could deal effectively with it using his lifetime experience of seeing it play out on a world stage.
Eric Braverman’s short tenure from 2013-2015 as Clinton Foundation CEO and IIRC his abrupt resignation just before the signature of the CEO was required on some financial documents that likely disclosed many of the people who had figured out how to get in on it is just one example.
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/14/us/politics/unease-at-clinton-foundation-over-finances-and-ambitions.html
Former President Bill Clinton had raised over $1 billion though the foundation to rebuild 100 villages in India, but only $53 million was spent on the project. Also, Braverman resigned at the time Hillary was arranging one of her notorious “pay to play” deals with foreign leaders: a $12 million contribution from the king of Morocco in exchange for giving a speech.
https://stream.org/the-mysterious-disappearance-of-former-clinton-foundation-ceo-eric-braverman/
And before the Braverman spotlight on the Clinton Foundation there was the Clinton Bush Haiti Fund created at the behest of then President Obama.as a major fundraising effort to underwrite Haiti’s long-term recovery.
Actually pretty transparent for all to see if they just look but as you said, WM. “If one can SEE the “big picture money”, and other people DON’T, it allows all sorts of scamming”.
“Just send your cash,” Bush said, discouraging Americans from contributing blankets, water or similar items. The three men said a website, http://www.clintonbushhaitifund.org, has been established to accept donations for the relief and reconstruction effort and according to its website, donations to the Clinton Bush Haiti Fund will be channeled through the two ex-presidents’ nonprofit foundations.
https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/article40702176.html
When I began to notice the financial aspect of major and even what some people would consider minor “events” that pulled at the heartstrings of compassionate souls, it was educational to see how quickly these “avenues to donate” were up and running. More educational were the new “avenues” created before the “event” actually happened and can be found in the state or federal charitable/non profit registrations/filings..

judyw

Am wondering if the “awaiting moderation” has anything to do with Word Press kicking me out so I had to sign back in after I posted the video and article about JM last night….

judyw

Well, apparently not as this one posted….hmmm!

judyw

Thanks so much…

judyw

Thanks…nice to know! 🙂

daughnworks247

The Blacklist info from Neon Revolt is fascinating.
It takes a hour to read but when I got to the D5 discovery, after everything from Q about D5….
https://www.neonrevolt.com/2018/11/21/blacklisted-ii-double-blackout-sorosrentboy-franklinleonard-an-in-q-tel-tool-scriptchat-aidtoo-greatawakening-blacklistanon-neonrevolt/

daughnworks247

You’re right WolfMoon, Nashville as well.

Cuppa Covfefe

Have a look at http://www.vigilantcitizen.com They have an enormous amount of research on Hollywierd, the music biz, MK Ultra (and the butterflies and kittens, including Marilyn Monroe, who I think the Deep State used to sidetrack/compromise JFK), and other things, such as the EU buildings, the Denver Airport, and other “Sinister Sites”.
They also have articles about the Satanic ceremonies “dedicating” the new Gotthard Tunnel bore, and the expansion of the CERN Large Hadron Collider (only thing it absorbs is money…).
The illumis are now out in the open, basically daring us to do something about them. Then again, just like the DEMONcRATs and Herod with their Hubris, they’re prepping themselves for a fall.
Down to Hell. Where they belong, until and unless they repent…

zoontexas

They are clearing for a road frantically things are moving at Trump Speed

wheatietoo

Back when the great Global Warming Hoax was fully in play…I noticed there was evidence that the other Planets in our solar system were experiencing ‘global warming’ too.
I used to go onto Youtube videos and leave comments about this, hoping to spread the word.
Each time, I would usually end with the remark:
“Hey Al Gore, even Uranus is warming!”
Steven Crowder replied to me once…”I see what you did there.”
Heheh. At least someone caught the joke!
Then the organized Left changed it to ‘Climate Change’.
Oh Em Gee.
We’re all gonna die! eleventy!!11!!!
Well duh…the climate on our planet is always changing…and has been changing since our planet was created.
But the Left thought that changing their wealth-distribution hoax to ‘Climate Change’ would work.
And they are still stroking it, despite the real scientific evidence that proves that the earth’s climate has always been in a state of ongoing change.
Well, now there is Evidence that all the other planets in our system are experiencing a ‘climate shift’ right now too.
I suspect that this has been going on forever on the other planets, just like here on earth.
But we Now have better ways to observe this.
This short video is the latest in a series that highlights some of the ‘changes’ that our recent space probes have revealed:
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Thank God we have a VSG President who turned thumbs down on that nefarious Paris Climate Accord agreement!
Those EU weasels were planning on fleecing us to pay for all their shortfalls from overspending on their stupid socialist programs.
Thank you, Mr. President!

SteveInCO

I’m not a climate change weenie by any means, but it LOOKS like you are engaging in a logical fallacy here, and we should be careful of those.
Maybe you didn’t intend to say this, but it looks like you are trying to say that because the climate has changed in the past without mankind being around to cause it, any current change also isn’t mankind’s fault. That doesn’t follow. A current change could be due to any of a number of factors, including (but not limited to) the ones that caused changes in the past.

wheatietoo

Huh?
What changes in the past did mankind cause?

wheatietoo

It’s Occam’s Razor abuse, really.
They promote the use of Occam’s Razor, knowing that people will then draw the ‘simplest conclusions’…based on the false evidence or incomplete facts that They give out.
In other words, they use Occam’s Razor to herd people into the ‘conclusions’ that they want people to arrive at.

wheatietoo

I’m just going to back away from this discussion, because it’s like I am getting picked on and flamed for making “dumb arguments” and committing “logic fail”.
Here I make the same assertion that Jason did…although he referred to it as an “observational record” and I didn’t.
And yet Jason is called “brilliant” and I get picked on for some perceived crime against logic.
Pffft.
backing away now

Emeraldstar

I had always understood, from the course I took on Medieval Science, the the “razor” that William of Ockham promoted, was that the simplest answer is LIKELY the true answer.
NOT always, but just PROBABLY, when evaluating all questions and all answers (to have a representative sample, in statistics-speak).
It was/is a generalization. And, it’s a fallacy (informal) to apply a generalization to any single specific case … just like it’s a fallacy to generalize based on a sample too small to characterize the general case (it was called, when I learned about it, the “Hasty Generalization” fallacy).
So, on AVERAGE, Occam’s Razor works, but not in a specific, single case.
Also, one may never prove a negative. The Climate-scam crowd has set us up with this fallacy also, wrongly putting the burden on US to “disprove” any effect our civilization has had on the environment.
They try to shift the burden-of-proof away from themselves, and onto us. MORE psychological projection – it’s absolutely RAMPANT in the emotionally-driven crowd, which the DS attempts to exploit.

Emeraldstar

I’d found a better schematic of informal fallacies a few years ago, but since I’m unable to retrieve that site on a quick DDG search, I substitute this one:
https://philosophy.tamucc.edu/notes/informal-fallacies

SteveInCO

Uh, no, you misread me somehow.
I do NOT say mankind caused any changes in the past. Quite the opposite.
I AM saying that the fact that mankind did not cause past changes does NOT entitle anyone, logically speaking, to claim that therefore mankind isn’t causing THIS change. That is a fallacious argument.
It would be like someone trying to claim that the Fed did not cause the Great Depression, because prior market “panics” and other economic disruptions all happened before the Fed existed. That’s a dumb argument whether or not the fed caused the Great Depression, and it’s a dumb argument to talk about past climate changes to try to disprove that humanity is causing the current changes.

JasonD

Your logic is correct.

SteveInCO

THANK you.
I’m not trying to argue for AGW, but I AM trying to couch people on how NOT to try to argue against it.

wheatietoo

“…it’s a dumb argument to talk about past climate changes to try to disprove that humanity is causing the current changes.”
_____
Okay, since I am so “dumb”…why don’t you educate me on what it is that humanity is doing to ’cause’ the current changes.
The earth *has* gone through climate changes in the past.
There seems to be a cyclic pattern in the way that the earth swings from Warming Periods to Cooling Periods.
Are you saying that we should ignore that?
Are you trying to say that the earth has stopped it’s ongoing process of climatic changing, with the advent of Mankind’s Industrialization?
Pollution is bad and we shouldn’t do it.
It is crapping in the nest.
But blaming mankind for changes in the climate seems to be a lot like Cargo-Culting to me.

SteveInCO

The earth has gone through climate changes in the past.
That true statement doesn’t prove this one is not caused by man. It does suggest it might not be, but doesn’t prove it.
To claim it does is an elementary logic fail.
I can’t state it any clearer than that.

wheatietoo

How is it not a ‘logic fail’ to blame the current climate changes on mankind, without valid proof?
Isn’t that a lot like what they tried to do to Kavanaugh?
If mankind is going to be declared ‘guilty’…then where is the proof?

SteveInCO

Pointing out errors in their logic does not negate the errors in yours.

wheatietoo

But your ‘declaring’ that my logic is in error, does not make it so.
You still haven’t offered any proof of why mankind should be blamed for ‘climate change’.

SteveInCO

I’m pointing out your argument is a bad one, it doesn’t follow the rules of logic, and it therefore cannot be used to disprove an argument in favor of climate change. I am NOT trying to argue for climate change, I am simply trying to point out your attempt to argue against it is not logically valid and therefore can’t convince anyone that they are wrong.
let’s try an analogy.
You’re a passenger in a car, and you notice it’s accelerating. You look around and figure out that’s because the driver is giving it more gas.
This happens several more times. You notice the car is accelerating, and it turns out to be because the driver is giving it more gas.
The next time you notice the car is accelerating, are you justified in concluding that, because every time in the past it was the driver applying more gas, this time it MUST be because the driver is giving it gas? Are you justified in eliminating the possibility that the car is accelerating because it’s going downhill?
You’re not. Not until you check, or unless you already know you’re on a flat lake bed.
But this is exactly what you’re asking people to do when you state that because past climate change wasn’t caused by humans, this one isn’t either.
Now, if you had INSTEAD said that THEY are failing to consider other possibilities, such as the ones that caused past climate changes, you’d be making a good attack on their argument…but that’s not the way you were coming across; you were flat out insisting they were wrong because past climate change had happened due to other causes, therefore this one must (not “could be”) be, too.

wheatietoo

I’m not sure that the AGW crap is “undisprovable”, Wolfie.
The hoaxer-scientists have already been exposed for ‘hiding the decline’.
And several reputable climate bloggers have exposed NASA for their repeated ‘data manipulation’ that was done in support of AGW.
So far, the AGW ‘theory’ has only been supported by Lies and as you said…Guilt and Fear.
The more this is all exposed, the more it becomes ‘disprovable’.

wheatietoo

Let’s hope not.
It starts with changing our public school curricula!

SteveInCO

I am not talking about their logic fail (which exists).
I’m talking about yours.

SteveInCO

I’m not sure that the AGW crap is “undisprovable”, Wolfie.
The hoaxer-scientists have already been exposed for ‘hiding the decline’.
And several reputable climate bloggers have exposed NASA for their repeated ‘data manipulation’ that was done in support of AGW.
So far, the AGW ‘theory’ has only been supported by Lies and as you said…Guilt and Fear.
The more this is all exposed, the more it becomes ‘disprovable’.

Now THIS is the way to attack it. Here you are directly confronting their (putative) evidence, and you’re referencing things that show that that evidence is likely invalid. (I still want to know why it was okay to “massage” the data, as one released code comment said.)
Incidentally, the major point of the video (that other planets are warming, therefore other factors are likely at play) is another good one.

NebraskaFilly

Yep – hoist on their own petard now, they are – Macron is having to deal with riots due to the rising diesel taxes to pay for those environmental programs!!!!

JasonD

NF, if I may suggest “environmental” in scare quotes ….?

churchmouse

SD should have said in his post on the yellow vests — gilets jaunes — that this is the SECOND weekend running.
Last weekend wasn’t too pleasant in places with yellow vest folks ambushing cars and verbally harrassing drivers near Nice. Elsewhere, a few violent fights broke out within the yellow vest groups.

wheatietoo

Exactly so, Wolf…they are predators.
In nature, there are predators who take down their prey to survive.
These SoCom Globalists are preying on people out of greed and their lust for domination & control.
They rely on having control over the media and other sources of Information.
Without that control…they would’ve been exposed years ago.

churchmouse

As Q so often wrote, ‘FOLLOW THE MONEY’.
Truer words were never spoken or written.

churchmouse

Absolutely!
Yes, FBIAnon prepped many of us for Q. There were the same urgent messages about a spiritual war between good and evil — and that the raw truth was so revolting most of us could handle only a small portion of it.
True in 2016, true now.
Neon’s got his finger on the pulse. For him to put his posts together must take days. Writing things up like that in a coherent way is not easy. Research is the greater portion of it.
Between Neon and the chans, something should be taking place whereby the Trump administration can take action. (If you’re thinking of a chan-identifiable name from the not so distant past at this point, you’re on the right track.)

SteveInCO

There was a time they were pushing the “precautionary principle.” Basically, because there was a possibility it was true, we needed to run around with our hair on fire and take vast and expensive preventative measures. (This was before they decided to decree that the science was settled.) I never figured out how to point out it was also possible we were headed for an ice age and therefore, as a precaution, we needed MORE greenhouse gases.

JasonD

Wolf, you are NOT wrong in your suspicion – it does not pertain to climate, but LIFE.
For all the misanthropy out there, especially as it relates to humanity’s effect on the biosphere, please note the following. If you are not yet aware of this, it will BLOW YOUR MIND. I know, promises, promises. Well, it blew my mind …
Over geologic time scales in the last 180 million yrs or so, CO2 has been steadily sequestered out of the atmosphere into subterranean strata. Pre-industrial CO2 levels were at 280ppm
CO2 is soluble in water. Solubility increases with DECREASING water temps, and vice water. Put simply, cold water absorbs more CO2 than warm water. So atmospheric CO2 decreases with glaciation as it is absorbed in the cooling oceans, and the reverse occurs during warming. This is why CO2 increases AFTER warming – it takes time for the oceans to warm and outgas CO2 (I referred to this in my other post here).
To verify this water / CO2 solubility, shake up a bottle of warm soda. Put it in the fridge and open it an hour later – the colder water temp has re-absorbed the CO2 and minimal fizz.
The advent of glaciation (what we plebs think of as a bona fide Ice age) thus leads towards reduction in atmospheric CO2. Typically in the past, a glaciation cycle would lower atmospheric CO2 by around 100 ppm, meaning earth was heading for 180 ppm CO2 after the next glaciation. Guess what the starvation levels are for the current generation of plant life is as far as atmospheric CO2.
Winner, winner chicken dinner (I think thats’s a saying ?) – Yup 180ppm
Life on earth was set to starve due to too low atmospheric CO2 post the next glaciation – mankind came along just in the nick of geologic time to rescue life.
Pretty cool, hey?
Coinkydink?

SteveInCO

More directly relating to ice ages: Apparently one natural phenomenon that consumes CO2 is rock weathering. When India collided with Asia and began forcing up the Himalaya mountains, rock weathering increased substantially, hence the fact that we’re going through ice ages now, and weren’t before.
Over longer periods of time, it should be noted that the sun itself is slowly increasing its output, about ten percent every billion years. That’s not fast enough to account for what’s going on today, but it’s something to keep in mind if one is tempted to claim that we had much higher levels of CO2 hundreds of millions of years ago and it wasn’t a problem–they’ll just fire back something like: “we needed the CO2 back then because the sun put out less radiation; today we’d bake with that much CO2”

SteveInCO

the last thing I wanted to do was give them a NEW cause to go nuts about

But in this case, my idea was to point out that:
Using the precautionary rule, you want environmental regulations to counter the unproven possibility (remember this was before they started proclaiming the science as settled) that the world is warming catastrophically.
By the same logic, one could demand environmental regulations to counter the unproven possibility that the earth is cooling.
The idea was to get them to realize that the principle could be used to justify any action at all, including the opposite of the one they were screaming for.
Of course we started getting abnormally cold weather in many places, such as the most heavily parts of the US (not here in CO, we’ve been getting less severe winters, which has done little to encourage Californians to go back where they came from) and they had to switch from “global warming” to “climate change” purely as a salesmanship effort.
Which is ironic because “it was really cold last winter” isn’t actually a good argument against their thesis either. It’s not only possible, it has actually happened in the past that a warming trend has had an effect that caused colder weather. At the end of the last Ice Age, Europe and Africa were warming up quite nicely, but then around 12,900 years ago, a large ice dam in North America melted to the point where it weakened and broke loose and a LOT of cold water got dumped into the North Atlantic, killing the Gulf Stream. The northern hemisphere and especially Europe suffered a severe cooling period, on the order of 2-6 degrees centigrade, for twelve centuries. The globe was warming even though my ancestors were freezing their butts off.
Their past models have so over-estimated the effects that they’re clearly too oversimplified to be of any real use. If they have any integrity at all, they’d be working on improvements (and maybe they are). An adequate computer climate model would have to take into effect so many factors it’s unlikely to ever happen. It would have to know everything about ocean currents, air circulation, likely sources of meltwater, likely ways to buffer greenhouse gases, likely reservoirs of greenhouse gases, AND account for the variability of solar radiation AND be able to predict that.
So I place little credence in their models. But as I said elsewhere that doesn’t give US leave to use logically invalid counterarguments against them.

JasonD

I experience global warming every time I switch on a light … I’m still here, so nothing to worry about.
Retreating glaciers in Greenland are still exposing settlement structures established during the medieval warm period – so it is not yet as warm as it was naturally then. But lets tax the cr@p out of everyone to ???
The Roman Warm period saw vines cultivated further north in the UK than today, so we are not yet as warm as then. But no matter, do not let details get in the way of a taxing agenda …
Geologists have long recorded that CO2 concentrations in the atmosphere has always FOLLOWED warming, never preceded it … according to their science.
They must be deniers then. But it is their measurements of past events vs future predictions done by models. So they can only logically be labelled as Model deniers.
Denying the efficacy of models of complex systems would seem to be a good bet. As far as I know, no one has yet modelled the economy effectively, cause they would be insanely wealthy if they could get this right.. Ditto the climate models – they have been cr@p at modelling the future – they all run hot. GIGO applies here.
Call me a model denier then, if you must. Not for my steely good looks, nor for the notion that anyone should model themselves on me (my wife would laugh at that notion) – no for the simple fact that models of complex chaotic systems, like climate models, are no better than examining chicken entrails.
So I choose science based on observation over models programmed with the logic of an unverified hypothesis – said logic which runs counter to the observational record.
So if you are labelled a “science denier” tell them to look in the mirror – they are the ones ignoring the observational record on which science is supposed to be based – you deny their models based on an imaginary effect – an effect which is NOT borne out by the observational record.
If indeed CO2 led to warming, then every warming period which was followed by elevated CO2, which is INDEED every warming period ever recorded, should have demonstrated the so-called runaway greenhouse effect. This has never been demonstrated in nature to date.
So why are current levels of atmospheric CO2 levels rising. It is surely our fault, they say. Well, look no further than a rebound from the little ice age. So a significant proportion of rising CO2 is natural due to natural warming. We have coincidentally added to this with burning fossil fuels. But since elevated COs has never caused warming in the past, this can be viewed as a net positive, since elevated CO2 IS promoting global greening, especially in arid regions.
So call me a MODEL denier as far as to their efficacy in outsmarting Yogi Berra – I embrace that moniker. But I will take umbrage to the accusation that I am a science denier …

JasonD

You were quick on the draw there Wolf – I had to check whether you had posted your reply BEFORE I hit send.
On the ball tonight … 🙂

JasonD

LOL

wheatietoo

Here, here, Jason…very nicely said!

JasonD

Thanks Wheatie, as I mentioned before, I got inculcated into the mindset of the globalist scum by observing the climate scam …
PS I’m taking the liberty of dropping the “too” from your moniker, based on your explanation elsewhere to others? 🙂

wheatietoo

Oh, please do drop the ‘too’.
I’ve been thinking about going into my profile and doing that…but I wouldn’t want people to think that I was a different ‘wheatie’.

JasonD

Better stick with the original
Knock-offs can be a bit dodgy 🙂
I never felt comfortable with the pjasond change – not because its wrong, just that my first ever blog persona was JasonD – and I wanted to keep that since it was ALL good – EVEN getting banned, cause that led to here!!

Sylvia Avery

There’s only one wheatie!

SteveInCO

Well done.

JasonD

Re the light bulb? I can’t afford running a heater with the damn tax, so I imported the global warming into my house. Works as follows …
Whenever I switch on the light and see my power bill, I think of “All” Gore, my blood boils and I warm up – works a treat!!

SteveInCO

Of course you are burning more calories that way and therefore need to eat more food…

JasonD

Win win – I like eating!!
The Gore’ster is my hero. I told you one can (mis)use logic to get where you want to go.
Our globalist betters are THE experts in the field …. 🙂

Deplorable Patriot

IMO, the models have a serious flaw that simply cannot be overcome. They do not take into account volcanic eruptions. NOTHING puts pollutants and ash in the atmophere like a mountain blowing up. NOTHING. Back in 1992 when one in the Phillipines exploded, we had cooler weather and beautiful sunsets for two years, yet no one bothered to factor such events into the computer models.
How can we talk about planetary weather without discussing natural phenomena?
Oh, yeah. No way to blame man.

JasonD

Its even worse than that. “Climate scientists” will admit that they do yet model clouds nearly well enough. They don’t have a clue whether clouds will be more dark or more white, affecting albedo (reflectivity).
Clouds govern how much solar radiation is absorbed in the oceans, where light penetrates to 20m+, not like on land where it only heats up the top few inches.
Algae emit SOx (Sulphates) which play a major role in cloud seeding – don’t have a cue how to model it. The quiet / active sun determines how many cosmic rays enter our atmosphere and seed clouds – no clue how to model this.
In short, if you can’t model clouds, you can’t model climate. This field is in its infancy, and scientists will admit this in private – bur you will almost never read this in a newspaper.
As I said up thread – garbage in, garbage out, with respect to models.
So yes to volcano’s are a problem, as is most of the natural world – IT IS WHOLLY A SCAM.

SteveInCO

I remember once reading that there were actual dedicated climate scientists who were upset at how the environmentalists were taking their reports, hyping them, suppressing all hedging, and whooping it up, using their stuff for a political agenda with the real scientists thinking it was too early to jump to conclusions, etc.
I could see that being the case, right up until the time I saw the whole CRU scandal happening. Now I don’t trust any of them.

Deplorable Patriot

Global warming, climate change…yeah…the story is of late to be ready for cooling, etc. I’ve been watching this narrative develop for a while (years) that the star we call the sun is working its way to sleep. Now, we’re seeing news of it pop up in MSM outlets. Today’s offering:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6384457/Lack-sunspots-bring-Space-Age-record-cold-weather-NASA-scientist-warns.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ito=1490&ns_campaign=1490
Lack of sunspots for a number of years lead to minimums which lead to ice ages. (Hence, claims of anthropologic permanent global weather changes should be questioned.) This has been observed for centuries. The sun is our furnace, and when its not as active it gets cold here. When it is active, the planet heats up. The Middle Ages, when the sun was roaring away, and then the Maunder Minimum (17th-18th centuries) which gave us the Little Ice Age (and whiskey since grapes wouldn’t grow in northern climes, and the tight wood that made up the golden period of string instrument making).
It looks like we are in for some form of that.
But man didn’t cause it. Don’t let the guilt trips get to you.
Get your wool socks now because thanks to the dumbing down of the people, not many women know how to make them any more.

JasonD

Maybe the sun is upset cause we did not offer enough sacrifices, as in plaster the whole planet in solar panels. Maybe that would have saved us from the climate monster? 🙂

Deplorable Patriot

I know people who would actually believe that. Of course, they all voted for Bernie.

SteveInCO

Remember when they wanted windmills, and it turns out they kill birds, so then they didn’t want windmills?
Covering the entire planet with solar panels would actually prevent plants from growing. It’s only a matter of time before they complain that solar panels are preventing sun from reaching the surface in the desert.
There IS no way to satisfy people who want you to have no environmental impact, shy of cutting your own throat.
Evil.

scott467

Why does everyone ASSUME that ‘global warming’ would be BAD?
Nobody ever asks that question, because it doesn’t support the propaganda lie.
When people talk about globull warming, I always think of the “Freedom Rock” dude, when he says “Well turn it up!” 😁
Winter is too cold in most parts of North America anyway, so a healthy average ten degree increase would be just enough to help take the edge off.
So even IF the temperature of planet earth was RISING, that would be a GOOD thing.
Less heating costs, greatly expanded crop land area… and IF we experienced gradually rising sea levels, that would require a construction boom like this world has NEVER seen.
We should be TRYING to make it warmer on earth!

Sauce

Given we’re in the early throws of another little ice age (grand solar minimum), In a180 degree policy change I’m sure at some point we will be pumping green house gases into the atmosphere by some UN directive to try and change this natural inevitable cyclical climate cycle…..
….and that will cause the global flooding as we come out of the minimum solar cycle into a maximum.
And as the saying goes, Liberalism (i.e.: socialism) will cause what they claim they are trying to prevent.

NebraskaFilly

“Ecuadorian officials turned away attorneys Jen Robinson and Aitor Martinez scheduled to meet with Assange, who is preparing for a court hearing at a “national security court complex at Alexandria, Virginia,” according to the whistleblowing non-profit organization. The aim of the hearing is to “remove the secrecy order” concerning the U.S. charges Assange faces, the group tweeted.”
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/11/24/julian-assange-lawyers-refused-entry-to-ecuadorian-embassy/

wheatietoo

Assange may already be over here…in advance of his hearing in a few days.
So those attorneys may have been turned away because Assange is not there.

NebraskaFilly

I doubt he was planning on appearing himself but that’s just my opinion. Seems pretty low-level and proforma for him to take that chance? IDK

wheatietoo

Maybe he’s getting a deal for ‘asylum’ here in the US?
Assange said months ago, that he was getting ready to release a ‘bombshell’ on something…the Clinton Foundation, perhaps.
Then…nothing.
Q was asked about the way that the Wikileaks & Assange twitter accounts seemed…different.
Seemed ‘comped’.
And Q replied something like…”They have the accounts. We have the source.”
Which many people took to mean that ‘We have Assange’.

NebraskaFilly

Ah – I sure hope that’s it.

churchmouse

If so, who is taking care of his cat?
From the article:
‘Officials have also imposed a series of other restrictions on Assange’s activities and visitors, and ordered him to clean up after his cat.’ Errgh.

NebraskaFilly

Justice system? We do not HAVE any damn justice system!!!! Just look at the short sentences these POS’ got!! Now, my preference would be deporting them the moment they are arrested – due process, my ass! They are NOT citizens and deserve NO due process!!!! – ok, sorry, but…….I just can’t……SMH
“Agents working near the border town of Los Ebanso, Texas arrested a Mexican national who illegally re-entered the U.S. after being deported. The deportation stemmed from an arrest and conviction in Tukwila, Washington, for the rape of a child. The court sentenced the Mexican man to 41 months in prison and three years probation.
Rio Grande City Station agents patrolling near Roma, Texas, on Wednesday also took a child predator off the streets. The agents arrested a Salvadoran man after he illegally re-entered the U.S. from Mexico. During processing, agents learned from court records that the man received a conviction in Aurora, Colorado, for sexual assault of a child. The Colorado court sentenced the illegal alien to three years in prison.
On Thanksgiving Day, McAllen Station agents stopped a Mexican man from successfully re-entering the U.S. Records revealed the mad received a conviction in Hickory, North Carolina, for involuntary manslaughter. The court sentenced the man to three years in prison.”
https://www.breitbart.com/border/2018/11/24/child-rapists-killer-busted-near-texas-border/

Elizabeth Carter

President Trump took us out of the Paris Accord. They are taxing their people and going on without us. They will be just in time to reap huge taxes from people who will have to put everything they have into burning fuel trying not to freeze to death. They were hoping the USA would pay for most of it but President Trump just said no.
Once again the rich globalists will get richer and the poor “little people” will get poorer.
http://www.climatedepot.com/2018/02/08/solar-minimum-may-bring-50-years-of-global-cooling/
On the bright side, their people can learn to dress warm and build igloos.

JasonD

The “elites” in France better tread carefully – France has form when it comes to dealing with “elites” who look down on the common folk. Plus that have a significant minority that also has a, dare I say enthusiastic, penchant for liberating head from torso.
Macron is treading on thin ice …
Not sure what is causing the ice to thin – global warming or Paris burning? – my money’s on the latter!!

Elizabeth Carter

JasonD The French liberation method would reduce the number of their people exhaling CO2.
I always cringe when I call them “elites”. President Trump says if they are the “elites”, his supporters are the “super elites”.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/06/27/donald-trump-super-elite-better-than-elite-stone-cold-losers/
It is wonderful having a President with a sense of humor who cares about America First and legal American citizens.
I am so tired of being preached at for 55 years by Presidents who hate America and hate the people who make America great.
They accuse us of clinging to our Bibles and our guns. They do not understand that our Bibles and our prayers are what keeps us from picking up our guns.
President Trump is not our last chance. He is their last chance to let us take back our country in a peaceful and orderly way. I pray that they allow us to do that for the benefit of all concerned.

JasonD

Hear, hear Elizabeth. I view President as the last chance for western civ – we in the rest of the west are not armed.
We have been following your lead for some time, unfortunately all downhill in the past 60 odd years, with the exception of the Reagan years.
So many around the world are rooting for you, hence my incessant posting.
By the way, if my posting on US affairs is deemed presumptuous, please tell me. A certain NCO at the other place alluded to that, but no one else backed him up. I will not take offence, as this IS primarily about the US.
Re the “elites”, I saw POTUS in the rally talking about super-elites. That is why I put the term in scare quotes – I by no stretch of the imagination consider “them” our betters.

SteveInCO

You’ve generally talked on a level of general principle, so you’ve not stopped in any brown smelly piles of ignorance.
The other day I was going to try to write something on the Big Picture of US Government spending, but then I realized that you and A.D Everard might not be familiar with the way our tax system is structured (it’s as much a part of life here as oxygen and doesn’t need to be explained most of the time, but you’re not here) and I’d have to explain absolutely all of it for it to make any sense to you. I decided not to write a book, especially since it was all a tangential point anyway.

JasonD

Steve, your consideration is much appreciated. However, I post stuff that I THINK may appeal to some, thinking that it is highly likely that it would not appeal to all here. Please do not let my presence here limit the ideas and /or information you present, tangential or otherwise.
This is an incredible blog, with such varied perspectives – I say bring it all. Obviously when I say all, I’m looking at Wolf to see whether he agrees ….
So thanks for your thoughtful response – you stand head and shoulders above the posters remaining over there, as do all here. But don’t let a bunch of “virtual migrants” limit you, please!!

Sylvia Avery

I can appreciate people from other countries being interested and anxious about what is going on in the US political realm. This feels like The Last Stand for Western Civilization. PDJT is fighting for America First, but if America wins this we ALL win. If we lose, it is all over for all of us. IMO.

JasonD

Much appreciated Sylvia, thank you.

SteveInCO

but if America wins this we ALL win. If we lose, it is all over for all of us. IMO.

Oh, never underestimate the capacity of idiots to buck a positive trend. There will be places that lose whether or not we win, because they’ll be trying so hard to lose.
Your second sentence, on the other hand, is spot on. They won’t be able to buck a negative trend by continuing to be stupid.

Sylvia Avery

Well, if we win this we all of Western Civ at least wins a chance. What we do with that chance is of course open to all the permutations of human idiocy, that’s for sure!

SteveInCO

As long as you have your shovel at the ready all is not lost. 🙂

Elizabeth Carter

JasonD, As far as I can tell, we are all in this together. I really appreciate your information and your viewpoint. As you are aware by now, if we didn’t have Fake News, we would barely have any news at all.
Americans are just beginning to understand how much we have been lied to about everything.
I didn’t think you meant they were our betters, I just liked the way President Trump handled that issue. I find laughing at them is very powerful. Taking them seriously gives credence to their positions and they really don’t have a good position on anything. President Trump laughs at them and says they are planning to run in 2020 on a platform of no borders, no ice, no police, no military, higher taxes and expect to win.
I am glad you are here.

NebraskaFilly

Oh, no, Jason – it is wonderful, IMO, to have people like you from around the world to add your unique perspective. One can only hope that you can find your own DJT there in Australia at some point.

wheatietoo

Heh.
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SteveInCO

I should have bought stock in publishers who put out books full of profoundly stupid quotes. This dingbat is a gold mine.

PeteC

Ally Cortez is so smart!!!! I can’t wait for her to be “inaugurated”– she’s a game changer!!! 😉

SteveInCO

January 3, the House of Fools takes office.

PeteC

Lol!!! So true!
By the way, if anybody cares, I didn’t mean to like my own comment above SteveinCO!!! Things can get carried away on an I-phone when you’re in your sixties!:)

SteveInCO

I doubt anyone really cares unless you make a habit of it. But you CAN just hit the button again to unlike it.

Spab

It is hard to blame this poor lady for her opinions. She, no doubt, is summarizing what she learned during her formal education, of which I have heard does not include American history in the way I remember. The computer proverb is a timeless truth: garbage in, garbage out.

SteveInCO

I remember speaking to a predominantly leftist audience and they were astonished that there was a time in this country you could live for months, even years, without seeing a federal agent. To them, the federal government has always been big and always interfered in daily lives at a local level.

wheatietoo

It’s good that Sharyl Attkisson is even talking about this, because it’s being largely ignored.
I hope that she reports on the parallels of where these outbreaks of this new ‘polio-like’ disease are occurring…to the increase in recently enrolled children from other countries.

Sylvia Avery

Yes. I think you could overlay that map that shows the concentration of illegals across the country with a map showing the outbreak, and it would look like the blue voter map…

wheatietoo
Sylvia Avery

I had Fox & Friends on for while on Black Friday. That had reporters stationed at various shopping centers. They did a piece where they interviewed quite a number of people and asked them if they preferred Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays. Everyone was so happy to say Merry Christmas. Their faces just lit up. Except for one hipster doofus who said he prefers Happy Holidays and his compliant female companion agreed and then said actually both worked for her.
It was kind of remarkable to see! It made me happy. Except for the hipster doofus. Hipster doofuses never make me happy.

SteveInCO

Originally, I always took “Happy Holidays” as a sort of way to combine Christmas and New Years. Only later did I realize it was actually an attempt to not snub Jews, who of course have little interest in Christmas, instead celebrating Hanukkah. Then people started inventing holidays. Kwanzaa is a pure invention, as worthy of being taken seriously as Festivus. (Actually, I’d rather take Festivus than Kwanzaa, as a generic holiday.)
It would be interesting to see how merchants in a predominantly Jewish neighborhood handle this bucking of “Happy Holidays.” Do they continue with Happy Holidays or do they start saying Happy Hanukkah?

JasonD

Wolf a suggestion for a thread / main post topic (whatever its called in internet lingo) for WHEN Q’s veracity has been demonstrated ….
You keep pointing out how deviously cunning the commie rats are. We like to mock and deride them, which leaves us underestimating them.
The fact is,t they have objectively WINNING the culture wars. This cannot be allowed to continue if humanity is to flourish.
Maybe we can discuss their strengths and weaknesses in order to get a handle on what we have to do to win in the long term?

Nor'easter

More from CTH commenters questioning the whereabouts of MIAs (link to first post; click and read):
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/11/25/november-25th-2018-presidential-politics-trump-administration-day-675/#comment-6371200
I see that para59r dropper in there.
PS: Wolfmoon: Nice use of the graphic at the top the page. Really an awesome picture!

Nor'easter

Well, it’s early yet…

churchmouse

A lot of them do not know we were banned.

churchmouse

You’re most generous.
I look at it cynically. He’ll look as if he had nothing to do with our departure. Clean hands, clean reputation. Onwards and upwards.

Linda

I’ve been tempted to drop it into one of SD’s Twitter threads.

churchmouse

You should do it.
If so, let us know what happens.

Sauce

…or what he’s really thinking….”onwords and up yours (or ours)”

churchmouse

Yep, you got it.

SteveInCO

I really can’t respect that motivation.
If you are banning someone justly, there’s no reason you shouldn’t want it known.
Secret bannings imply you’re ashamed of the act. He doesn’t want it known that he’s banning these people. Why?
It doesn’t need to be pointed out, but I’ll do it anyway. Wolf clearly falls in the first camp here.

churchmouse

‘He doesn’t want it known that he’s banning these people.’
Exactly.

Disney Echo

Moon, I’m thankful that in the introductions to these Open Topic threads that you no longer include “We ask that people NOT duplicate material posted to the Treehouse open threads, unless it’s REALLY IMPORTANT.”
Why am I thankful? Because ever since S[ ]’s (or his moderators’) purge, I no longer read that website. Now before I write here in these Open Topic threads I no longer have to worry that I might be including something that was already posted at a place I no longer read, that other website where I no longer feel comfortable to be at (so I now stay away from there). I’m VERY thankful you started this place, Wolf!

SteveInCO