Dear MAGA: Open Topic 20181129

This SPECIAL THANKSGIVING PLUS SEVEN THURSDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.

Say what you want, comment on what other people said, comment on people’s comments.  Keep it civil.  Treehouse rules, but expect lots of QAnon.

No illegalities, please.  We’re WISE to ya, ya damned communists.

Have fun!  But not as much fun as the corruptoids in the white Bronco!

W

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Five hundred seventy days since the BannedWagon began to roll, gathering people in who are tired of Can’t Tolerate Heterodoxy.
Aaaaand it looks like things are coming to a boil soon. MAGA on!

Sylvia Avery

Sure does, doesn’t it?

Sylvia Avery

Wolf, I totally love tonight’s photo selections. Gave me a big ol’ smile! BOTH of them!

phoenixRising

Ditto…

Sylvia Avery

I can see why it got a lot of play!

phoenixRising

phoenixRising

I can’t find the tweet, but someone reminded us today that all of POTUS’ tweets will go into the archives, records…
I think of them as ‘etched in marble’ so to speak…

zoontexas

This was seen 10 days ago but still had a feeling to post it.

zoontexas

Sorry I meant to say it was posted 10 days ago.

wheatietoo

He says…”This can’t be good.”
I disagree.
Those tanks heading to the border is a good thing, in my book.
Tanks could be lined up and serve as an ‘instant wall’ in places where the invaders are trying to rush through.

oncefired

I’ll be happy when these are deployed at the Border:

oncefired

Let me try again:

oncefired

Won’t let me post a link?

A.D. Everard

I have that trouble too, at least with videos, I think it’s the way I hold my mouth.
Are you posting about those access denial units? I nickname them “zappy-guns” and I would LOVE to see them employed against the raging horde. Brilliant equipment.

wheatietoo

What was the video about?
Did Youtube delete it?

Tonawanda

Wow! Gas in Louisiana is only $2.13???? Paid 2.76 yesterday up here.
Maybe this is just a delivery of tanks newly manufactured.

daughnworks247

$2.02/gallon for regular, day before yesterday. It helps all Americans when gas prices are lower, AND it helps our VSG in negotiations with Russia/Saudi when oil is low. $50-60 a barrel seems to be a sweet spot.

NebraskaFilly

$2.23 here in my neck of the woods.

Tonawanda

Oh my. Cuomo rips us off so bad here in NY. All the red diaper and trustafarian special snowflakes who live on the East Side or Park Slope don’t drive cars, or have so much money the price of gas does not affect them in any noticeable way.

holley100

Andy the Ridiculous Clown. I did read he is saying no to a 2020 presidential run. That he would even consider it is laughable. When you own state can’t even stand you what chance do you have?

Tonawanda

His own state re-elected him overwhelmingly even with a decent Republican candidate.
But you are right, even the folks who voted for him hate him. They know he is a corrupt, power-hungry maniac with a loathsome personality. He is just not Republican.
The thousands of well-paying jobs in Western New York and The Southern Tier through fracking have been sacrificed to the campaign contributions and other relayed financial incentives provided by leftist Manhattan millionaire and billionaire communists, the ones who own all the best dachas.

holley100

I’m in upstate and you’re right. He’s just a joke here even to the Democrats. Took I think 3 terms for NY to get rid of his father? Maybe there’s hope.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Hard to tell at that distance but they could be Strykers (armored infantry carriers) or even Bradleys. The Bradley in particular looks like a tank.
I saw a train once with a lot of armored vehicles on it, they didn’t look quite like any of the three pics I just looked at.
No matter which one, it’s a good thing.

Gudthots

Hello all. Nice to see the site has enough traffic that keeping up will take some time. Nice to be here with y’all at TQT.

phoenixRising

yes TTT,
comfy & cozy it is here

NYGuy54

well if you guys would have let me known…I would have been here earlier.

NebraskaFilly

Most of us are banned there now and for those who aren’t, posting a link to our warm den would get them banned.

NYGuy54

I want to be banned too…no fair

NYGuy54

lol. hey I sent you a DM.

Linda

We’re definitely getting a lot of great comments. It took me a good part of the day to get caught up. 🙂

Tonawanda

I am going back to the beginning and having a lot of fun.
Right now I am on W’s post asking whether he is still a Treeper. Very interesting and (honestly) entertaining stuff.

daughnworks247

I’ve tried to ‘follow’ everyone here who has an account with WordPress. Don’t ever want to be left out in the cold again.

phoenixRising

wheatietoo

And um…how is CNN getting to see Pres Trump’s written answers to Mueller’s questions?!

daughnworks247

Hey Wheatie, do you think CNN really has the questions? Their article from yesterday talked about 2 questions. Have we ever seen another legit leak out of the Special Counsel?

Aubergine

I wondered about that, too!
Who leaked the answers? How did CNN and little Adam Schitt get to see them?
Better question, is this a sting? What if those aren’t exactly the answers PDJT gave?

NebraskaFilly

How do we know they actually DID see them?

Gudthots

“I am the Lord your God,
who teaches you what is best for you,
who directs you in the way you should go.
If only you had paid attention to my commands,
your peace would have been like a river,
your well-being like the waves of the sea.”
Isaiah 48:17b-18

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Gudthots

I’ve learned that I am enjoying creating original pairings of photos and scripture tied to themes related to current events. To more easily collect them in a single place, I am posting on Gab.
Today’s post … https://gab.com/thinkthinkthink/posts/42238267

para59r

The further we remove ourselves from the godhead to go our own way, the more turbulent the waters become for all. Nice pairing! (tried to post that to your page, but my real name kept popping up. So I’ll keep this here for now till I figure that out. 🙂 )

Gudthots

Thanks. On Gab, you will want to navigate to your Profile > Settings & then change the first field, NAME, to be whatever you want it to say instead of your name. This name also shows up when I go to my follower list, just so you know (I tried not to look ;))

Alison

This is beautiful, TTT. I am spending much more time with my Bible these days. A great source of understanding & comfort.

Gudthots

In the early years of my formation the work of Brother Andrew with Open Doors was a strong influence for me. Stories of those in prison with only their memorized portions of scripture to comfort them made an impression. God’s grace alone can explain how quickly I took in the pages of His wonderful, mysterious, even terrifying communications as found in the Scriptures.

Sylvia Avery

Really nice. I love the water scene.

Tonawanda

You have been choosing GREAT quotes!

Gudthots

I try to allow the Holy Spirit have input into my daily life. I guess I listen “good enough.” Yesterday I found myself praying an ancient prayer, “Lord, form in me Your more perfect Love.” A good prayer. A sobering prayer actually, thinking of all those moments every day when my love is far from perfect.

fleporeblog

Interesting article in the NY Post today on PDJT declassifying the documents House Republicans asked him to.
https://nypost.com/2018/11/28/trump-threatens-to-declassify-devastating-docs-about-democrats/?utm_campaign=iosapp&utm_source=facebook_app&fbclid=IwAR2iZ5iz5EYXdkLEnpQ2QMYTBOMQNvYqAooXgskgv9v7ThZml98pNCZPwhs
This is all about LEVERAGE. Our President has all the leverage in the world on Democrats, RINOs, World Leaders, Mueller, DOJ, FBI, Deep State etc. that were involved in the “soft coup”. Trumpism only survives if our President builds a foundation that can withstand the hand of time.
A majority of the President’s before him have very little left of their legacy (whether good or bad). If our President decides to hold certain things back to preserve his legacy for generations to come, we as a country, our children and grandchildren will benefit from it.
LarrySchweikart wrote this the other day. It coincides with the article. His thread is a perfect example of how PDJT is using his LEVERAGE with Mitch McConnell to make sure the Courts are stacked with MAGA Justices that will judge on issues that would try to chip away at TRUMPISM for decades to come.
https://twitter.com/baba9773/status/1067515596395479040?s=21

wheatietoo

Thanks, Fle.
Yes…getting good Judges seated across the country is the Key to restoring Law & Order.
And getting a ‘real’ majority in the Senate, was the key to getting that done.

NebraskaFilly

Not doing us any good now, is it? WTF is WRONG with Grassley???? ALL cancelled!!!! Again, I say: WTF???? “considered beyond the pale from the practical perspective?” WHO GIVES A DAMN??!!??
“Flake’s defection makes it impossible for the SJC to vote on judicial nominations with its current 11-10 partisan makeup. The Senate can technically bypass the committee process, but that is considered beyond the pale from the practical perspective.
With Flake voting no, this means that six nominees for the powerful U.S. courts of appeals and 15 nominees for federal district courts — where trials are conducted — cannot make it out of committee.
One of those nominees is Bridget Shelton Bade, recommended by Flake to President Trump for a seat on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.”
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/11/28/flake-no-judges-grassley-cancels-2018/

Gudthots

There are other options. 1. The chairman can move judges out of committee voting (according to rules mentioned during Kavanaugh hearings). 2. The committee could be “trimmed” in numbers until Flake’s vote has no importance.

NebraskaFilly

Exactly! But is Grassley going to do that? IDK

fleporeblog

The POS can’t stop 🛑 the Judiciary Nominations that are out of the Committee and on the Senate floor waiting to be confirmed (District & Appellate Court Seats {29 total}).

He also wasn’t able to stop the inevitable from happening with Thomas Farr being confirmed tomorrow as the U.S. District Judge for the Eastern District of North Carolina.

He will cry 😭 his eyes out as the PDJT Armada is placed throughout the Federal Courts in the next 2 years!
With 53 Republican Senators, our President will fill every single vacant District, Appellate & International Trade Court Seat with hardcore young Conservatives/Constitutionalist.
There are currently 124 vacancies (11 Appellate, 111 District & 2 Court of International Trade).
https://www.americanbar.org/advocacy/governmental_legislative_work/priorities_policy/independence_of_the_judiciary/judicial_vacancies/
By the end of our President’s first term, he will accomplish the following:
Supreme Court – 2 (total 9) = 22.2% PDJT
Appellate Court – 53 (total 179) = 29.6% PDJT
District Court – 223 (total 678) = 32.9%
International Trade Court – 4 (total 9) = 44.4%
The totals above can only go up with retirements and deaths 😉!

NebraskaFilly

As per usual, you raise my spirits a bit, Flep! Thank you!!!!

fleporeblog
Aubergine

Well, it’s just a rumor, but Flake may be one of the “Pizzagate compromised” individuals under the control of the Deep State and the Clinton machine. Rumor says he likes young girls.
I live ten miles from a splinter community of the Mormon church. The mainstream LDS disavows them, but it’s a large community. They practice plural marriage. People are born and die there with no records attached. We all know about it, but nobody does a thing.
I know people who have “escaped.” They don’t say much, but young marriage for girls is probably a given. I’m not sure if we’d ever know the girl existed.
Religious freedom is a two-edged sword.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

What we are aiming for in this country is religious freedom as long as the religious practices don’t violate some law that (we think) everyone can agree on. Except that in reality not everyone agrees with those laws, only the vast majority of us do. We generally won’t tolerate human sacrifice or wife beating or plural marriage involving underage girls, even though some religions not only permit, but demand that we do those things. I’m sure practitioners of those religions would love to lodge a religious freedom claim and demand exemption from those laws. DENIED, I hope…though I expect down the road it will be a Muslim line of attack to get despicable practices that are legal under sharia legalized.

NebraskaFilly

Sadly, no “down the road” about it – it has already been happening around the US. Just look at the recent case on FGM dismissed in Michigan.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I believe that was actually dismissed on federalism/jurisdictional grounds. I don’t doubt that someone argued religious freedom there, but it wasn’t decided on that basis.
But your larger point stands.

Uncle John’s Band

This looks like a good take. Making the economy roar was the other strategic priority from the jump.

Tonawanda

Sad to say, Schweikart says something which is almost certainly true: “So far, this has been my best prediction to date: the struggle and infighting that would have come from a full assault on the Deep State would have possibly met with LIMITED success, but to the detriment of every single other Trump agenda item.”
Trump does not waste resources. He is a master of cost/benefit analysis. He wants lasting accomplishments of the widest application.
Putting Hillary in prison may, in Trump’s pov, just not be worthwhile, especially if the Deep State is being slowly but unspectacularly being drained over time.
The other good point is about Roberts’ opinion in Obamacare. Yes, it looks like Roberts was blackmailed or something along those lines. The opinion is that incoherent.
BUT a majority (including Roberts) signed onto an interpretation of the Commerce Clause which is beautiful, and maybe will have beautiful consequences in the long run.

NYGuy54

yeah…this is the latest technique being used to demoralize the base. Rather ingenious way to suck in supporters. Use the phrase “leverage” as a code for Pres Trump not doing anything. They know that a Trumpian thing is leverage so they use it against us.
Sundance is all in.

NebraskaFilly

I noticed a decided defensive bent to that article.

Tonawanda

To my ears it sounded highly defensive.

NebraskaFilly

Oh, and one question popped into my mind while reading that article – when does “leverage” become “blackmail?”

NYGuy54

exactly…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

especially if the Deep State is being slowly but unspectacularly being drained over time.

If it is in fact being done quietly, it can be undone quietly. Their leadership needs to be discredited permanently so they cannot get elected, come back and undo it quietly. I’m, not calling for an immediate visible boom, but we’ll need one eventually that captures the high profile ones.

Tonawanda

A visible boom is coming, I believe that 100%.
But the wait seems interminable, and will necessarily go on longer than we want (we want it NOW) but there have been many issues Trump needed to straighten out before we got there, not the least of which is Mueller, but also judges, etc.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I do trust him to play his cards for maximum possible effect…while being aware that “maximum possible” won’t necessarily be “enough to satisfy SteveInCO’s desire for justice.”

Tonawanda

LOL … You know, I really wish the President would call some of us so we could set him straight about a thing or two.

NebraskaFilly

I don’t think ANY punishment for ANY of them will be enough for many of us!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Riffing off our conversation yesterday… 🙂

Spab

I think your analysis is accurate Ton. I am a JT Wentworth deplorable and want my convictions NOW. Alas, I think the President and his team are smarter than me.

Tonawanda

LOL … did you HAVE to put that jingle back in my head! With the images of sideways baseball caps prancing around? I will need to take an early nap!

Spab

That commercial was marketing genius.

Tonawanda

No question! I was always amazed that there were that many structured settlements to make the commercial worth while.

wheatietoo

Indeed…God does work in mysterious ways.
https://twitter.com/MrEdTrain/status/1067951139293929472

Sylvia Avery

Wow! And to think that he was a 3.2 lb. preemie. It should give the entire “pro choice bunch” pause. But it won’t.

NYGuy54

Thank you. Kindness is a blessing to others. It strengthens your soul.

para59r

Okay, short story, ehmmm.
I don’t stray over to CTH much anymore, more out of solidarity than anything else, however Sundance posted this:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/11/28/president-trump-discusses-his-decision-not-to-declassify-spygate-documents (Worth reading to see his take)
This being a subject that much interests me I weighed an against position and it was accepted. Then I weighed in again and post does not show up. Tried twice more with slight changes to the post. They don’t show up either.
Also my likes are not showing now either.
Seems SD took to sounding out the community and allowed one angst and that was it. For SD’s opinion seems to have multiple posts showing up Angst not so much though they are running about 60 percent of posters.
Bottom line seems to be that it’s his way or the highway and right now I seem to have joined the ranks of the officially banned. Temp or not time may tell.
I’ll post Quick history of the posts separately below if your interested. If not no need to wade through.

para59r

Quick history of the posts. This, the first one accepted
1. “If you have knowledge of a crime you expose the crime. It really is that simple. To do less is in essence to partake in the crimes longevity as it continues to take victims be they individuals, the tax payer or the nation at large. Do you think deep state is not even now working more diligently to wipe away signs of their complicity in these many matters? Wait long enough in exposing these things and you then run the risk of losing the best effect you can get out of it by exposing it in a timely manner.
It’s one thing to say your waiting for all the cards to be collected before you then snap the trap. It’s another thing entirely to say your going to hold it over peoples heads for ‘leverage’ which is nothing more than saying black mail.”
2. Not accepted not copied, lost in the ether 🙁
3. I saved to note before sending 🙂 Didn’t go through.
“When the fraudacrats take the house in Jan, the noise they make will fill everyone’s ears. Best to get this in the open now while we can still think and aren’t up to our ears fighting imaginary dragons.
I don’t much like the idea of trying to figure out “Oh was that leverage there?, wait for it wait for it…. ” Now that would be a bit too ‘Q’ish if you know what I mean as we go full circle… Meanwhile I shouldn’t have to tell anyone what ‘they’ are clamoring loudly for now, while we debate simple ethics.
Personally I’m of the mind that POTUS may have suggested this leverage thing only because he didn’t hear a rally cry for Declassification and this ‘leverage’ thing is his second best option if the people are not solidly behind him.”
4. I cleaned this last one up quite a bit by changing ‘fraudacrats to Democrats and taking out the ‘Q’ish thing. Didn’t go through.
“When the Democrats take the house in Jan, the noise they make will fill everyone’s ears. Best to get this in the open now while we can still think and aren’t up to our ears fighting imaginary dragons and release will make much less of an impact.
Personally I’m of the mind that POTUS may have suggested this leverage thing only because he didn’t hear a rally cry for Declassification and this ‘leverage’ thing is his second best option if he thinks the people are not solidly behind him. “

para59r

Yeah, I didn’t include the Qish till the third post and took it completely out of my fourth post (mind you the second was none Qish and it did not go through. I’d show you but that’s the one I didn’t save because I didn’t think I needed to).
Anyway, seems he’s picked a whole new population to censor, at least for that thread. Them being for declass now and against this ‘leverage thing’.

TakeBackOurRepublic

I think the filter trap also caught people who “liked” comments re anything Q related. It happened to me concurrent with SD’s post about the dangers of the Q phenomenon (Nov. 10th). Glad to see all you treepers here. Thanks Wolfmoon!

TakeBackOurRepublic

Thanks wolfmoon!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Welcome to the BannedWagon!

Alison

Love your moniker, TakeBack 😊
Welcome 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

TakeBackOurRepublic

Thanks, Alison!

Linda

It sounds to me like you are banned, para59r. Pretty much the same thing happened to me. I disagreed with SD and the next thing I knew, I was banned. Sorry. SD doesn’t seem to tolerate any disagreement these days. Maybe it was always that way and I just didn’t notice, but it’s been very noticeable of late.

Alison

When many of you say you were banned, did you receive an email telling you that, or do your comments go into moderation without ever being released, or do your comments just not show up?
I don’t doubt what you are saying, especially in light of the “no Q” stuff that went down.
On the other hand, WordPress is a VERY wonky software program with tons of bugs, and the techies at WP are constantly tweaking one thing which screws up 5 other things. Couple that with some of us posting from old laptops, new laptops, IPads & phones, and I wonder of some of you
are having WP-related problems rather than being kicked out by SD et al. Especially when one of your comments goes through and the next one doesn’t.
At any rate, thank goodness we’ve gathered here!

para59r

I don’t think your going to get an email to such, others can likely tell you better.
I was banned at Breitbart during the primaries in 2016, when I was arguing (nicely but pointedly) late at night with a bunch of people from Stormfront (nasty group of anti Jewish white supremacists). In that case I think the moderator just went right down the line and banned everyone in the conversation regardless of what you were saying . No email then and no getting back either, but I do get a red note telling me I’m banned when I forget where I’m at and try to post. I tried several times to contact their admin and even sent them a full transcript of the postings that night and but never get a reply back.

Alison

And I see from Wolfie’s comment upthread that WP bloggers can put automatic blocks on comments based on specific words. That makes sense.

wheatietoo

If you have a WP account…and can post here, or on other WP sites…but cannot post on the CTh site, then chances are you are banned there.
I think this is what most of the banned folks are going by.
Not sure if I’ve been banned there…because I fled and haven’t been back to check.
But I probably have been, at this point.
What is curious, is that I started having trouble with WP while at the CTh site…a couple of months ago.
It seemed to start when I started posting here on Wolfie’s new Q Tree site.
Which in hindsight…I am now wondering if it was more than a ‘coincidence’.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I’m not going to start a ProbablyBannedWagon, so you’ll just have to continue on the BannedWagon.

Sylvia Avery

I didn’t receive any email telling my I was banned. Just all of a sudden, after the Q Purge and I came here, I could like an article or a comment and then it would revert back very shortly as if I had never hit like at all. Also, I posted a couple of short very non controversial comments and they disappeared in short order as if they had been erased.

TakeBackOurRepublic

Same here. I initially thought it was a WP problem and reached out to their techs who said it wasn’t an issue on their end. The comment, reply and like features work for me on other blogs using WP so it’s apparently a CTH ban. I considered myself a SD loyalist so being banned for being a Q follower is more than a disappointment.

Gudthots

No matter.
You’ve earned a badge of honor in our book.

Sylvia Avery

It is so weird. I don’t know how this works or is supposed to work, but I would think there would be some response or explanation when you reach out to the people running the place. An automated email saying you have been banned, go away, or something.
But then in your case, they tell you there is not a problem….except you can’t post no matter what they say.
I keep thinking there is a magic key that if I can just find it it will unlock they mystery.

TakeBackOurRepublic

I don’t think the WP techs can see on their end the banning of functions specific to websites that use their product. That’s why they told me to try other sites using WP to see if I could comment, reply and like.
That magic key is controlled by SD and his admins who are using it to censure all things regarding Q. Is it to protect our President or protect SD’s narrative? Who knows, but the flock appears to have found our way over to a new perch here at the QTree, thanks to Wolfmoon!

TheseTruths

Allison said, “When many of you say you were banned, did you receive an email telling you that…”
A year and a half or so ago, I witnessed the deletion of someone else’s comments. They were not even political, and were polite and respectful. I never saw that person again. Then my comments about the Milo situation got deleted, and I couldn’t post. I emailed three times to ask my status. I was polite each time, just factual. I never got a reply. In my last email, I finally said it appears that only sycophants need apply, and wished them well in their support of MAGA.
I do not have a WordPress account, so I do not post through it and WordPress is not a factor in my case.
All of the problems people are talking about have been present at that site since I started reading it several years ago. I read for quite a while before posting, and I immediately realized that 1) you have to be very careful not to post anything considered objectionable — and that those criteria are not always clear or consistently enforced, 2) that if SD responds to you he is more likely than not to bite your head off, and 3) you have to “bow at the altar of SD.” I don’t know any other way to put it.
So while there currently must be a purging of Q-related posts and posters over there, this behavior is nothing new for that site. I have consistently been surprised that some have not seen it, and it’s been nice to see the posts by others here who, like me, did see it.

churchmouse

Oh, the Milo controversy. Thanks for the reminder.
I don’t know why SD was so set against him. Milo is definitely pro-MAGA.
Totally agree with you on your three points for posting on CTH. Well said. SD never chimes in with a compliment, only censure. Yes, it is surprising that some hadn’t noticed it before.

Sylvia Avery

SD definitely bites. I’ve seen it a number of times. One time he said something to Bull Durham along the lines of “boy you really are a Russian troll aren’t you” or something like that. I saw him light up Pam once and I was taken aback because it seemed so unkind and for something pretty innocuous.

churchmouse

Yes.
He seems to have a go more often at good commenters than trolls, for some reason.
Hope you are feeling better, by the way.

Sylvia Avery

Thanks. Marginally better, but I’ll take what I can get!

Sylvia Avery

‘”I immediately realized that 1) you have to be very careful not to post anything considered objectionable — and that those criteria are not always clear or consistently enforced, 2) that if SD responds to you he is more likely than not to bite your head off, and 3) you have to “bow at the altar of SD.” I don’t know any other way to put it.”
I lurked for a couple years before I ever posted. I did not notice the need to be careful not to post anything objectionable, although to be fair I wasn’t looking for anything, either. I thought I noticed established posters handling obvious trolls and I thought that was nice. I also rarely observed nastiness, name calling stuff and I thought that was superb.
I rarely ever saw SD reply to people but I did notice the tone was usually, ah, cranky which made me quickly hope I never drew SDs attention. I can only recall one time, maybe two at the most, that he ever replied to one of my comments and I was totally shocked. Very bland non committal type comments and he commented something back like, “Yeah, me too” or “I sure agree” or something. Again, I was shocked.
You are right that the Great Q Purge is apparently only the latest. I did notice people disappearing during the Bannon Wars, and the Time of the Sessions Bashing, but I had no idea a ban hammer was flying. I just assumed people got tired of the crap and left, and that may have been part of it.
Obviously, I have been pretty naive. I can only say in my defense CTH was the first site like that I had ever commented on. I have never been one for reading comments because they are usually stupid and vile and I’ve never had any longing to roll in the gutter. The comments at CTH quickly became one of my favorite things because there were so many smart, witty, deep thinking, informed people who posted I learned as much there as from the articles.
Oh well. Our lives have seasons and the one at CTH has essentially ended for me, but it led to my being here. I don’t believe these are random events, but I don’t have answers to any of the mysteries. I just try to accept and move on, boats against the current, but hopefully not being borne ceaselessly into the past.

churchmouse

Well said, Sylvia!

A.D. Everard

I think you are right, Sylvia, that this is meant to be, and I’m talking in a spiritual sense, not any SD plan sense (he didn’t just kick out Q supporters and, as These Truths said, this has been going on for years behind the scenes).
I too thought people were leaving CTH because they’d had enough of the trolls, but it turns out many were appallingly treated by SD himself and then disposed of. It amazes me we didn’t all wake up to it sooner, but I guess that was because no one before set up a neighboring site where we could actually mention it.
CTH seemed like a great place to chat, but I think all we really did was share our thoughts with someone wanting to control where we went with our notions. Once seen it cannot be unseen, as the saying goes, and nothing explains his HIDDEN animosity against support for so many in POTUS’ team, not just Q.

Sylvia Avery

Yes, it is sure clear now that we’ve had a chance to compare notes it wasn’t just about Q. That was just the most recent example.
And it all seems so petty. I’ve never run a blog, so who knows what I’d do, but I’d like to think I’d ban people who were rude or crossed the line in terms of taste and decorum and no trolls. But other than that??? Who has the time and energy for this kind of thing?
It boggles the mind that someone would take the time and trouble to look here and see who is posting and then put them on a Nixonian Enemies List and hit them with the old ban hammer. Really????? Who DOES that?

Sylvia Avery

(And yes, I agree with you–I meant it in a spiritual sense not a 64D chess way.)

TheseTruths

Sylvia: “The comments at CTH quickly became one of my favorite things…”
Yes! I used to spend lots of time reading comments there, and now this site is similar in that respect. I learn from the insightful people here.

Sylvia Avery

Agreed!

scott467

“2) that if SD responds to you he is more likely than not to bite your head off, ”
______________
I resemble that remark 😁
I remember the last time Sundance came out to play with me. Seems like only yesterday…
Why she had to go?
I don’t know, she wouldn’t say.
I said something wrong,
Now I long for yesterday…
Yesterday…
Love was such an easy game to play…

Oh, sorry, was I singing that out loud? 😁
Several days earlier I had posted about Q’s ’53-47′ prediction, before the Kavanaugh senate confirmation vote.
It must have really bothered SD, because he waited for an opportunity to use it against me.
Several days later, in a completely different thread, I was responding to a bunch of Q attacks and having a pretty good time at it, playing with a feralcatblog. Took a little to find this again:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/10/07/very-important-interview-devin-nunes-discusses-fisa-investigation-rod-rosenstein-currently-corrupt-doj-fbi-and-robert-mueller/comment-page-1/#comments
Suddenly, out of nowhere, SD replied to me with this:
…………………………………
sundance says:
October 7, 2018 at 7:27 pm
Oh yeah…. and that “53-47”? How’d that work out for you?
FYI, the entities behind the most current “Q” movement are “paytriots” connected to Robert Caron and Joshua Macias. [the search function is your friend]
…………………………………
It’s a shame I can’t explain to SD that not only was Q not wrong, but the “53-47” is actually a Q proof, that it turns out it referred to the outcome of the midterm elections a MONTH later. He would love that… 😁
But think about what happened there. I made the “53-47” comment days earlier in a completely unrelated thread. He didn’t say anything about it at the time, but he saved it… or it bothered him enough to remember exactly where to find it… and then after the vote was taken and it ended up 50-48, he actually found me, to throw it in my face.
Which I don’t mind, it’s just an invitation to dance — and I didn’t get to dance with Sundance very often.
So I replied, but there was no follow-up.
………………………………………
scott467 says:
October 7, 2018 at 7:42 pm
“Oh yeah…. and that “53-47”? How’d that work out for you?”
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It worked out fine for me!
What did I say? I don’t have the actual post, but going from memory, I said that Q predicted 53-47, and that if the vote turned out that way, Q-skeptics would say it was a lucky guess, and if it turned out different, they’d say ‘Q is fake!’
Either way, it would be rejected.
In other words, no matter what Q says, those who have already made up their minds are going to attack Q.
Lo AND behold (is ‘lo’ ever without ‘behold’ in tow?)… I was right 🙂
.
Furthermore, what did Q say about the Kavanaugh confirmation vote total?
Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 9b4509 No.3368187 📁
Oct 6 2018 15:08:40 (EST)
>>3367982
God bless, Patriot.
Celebrate – this means so much.
Closer than anticipated but a win nonetheless.
Red-State D’s who voted ‘no’ are in trouble.
Q
……………………….

Spab

“Lo AND behold (is ‘lo’ ever without ‘behold’ in tow?)… ”
Just so you know. For many many years Lo and Behold were a great team. But as often happens with great teams discord set in and Behold decided to go solo. After a language revival Lo also went out on his own. Lo these many years later you can find them together only on the Oldies Libraries. That is the way it happened…honest.

Gudthots

““… paytriots” connected to Robert Caron and Joshua Macias…”
That anti-Q proof actually says a lot about the mindset of our former host. What those two guys did was trying try to monetize and hijack Q followers. It was a promotion of a website with “inside” info that was behind a subscription paywall.
How convenient. While actual Q followers that are thinking for themselves are going to recognize the deception because Q pre-warned us about this very thing, others can point to it as anti-Q proof.
But, only those who are failing to do deep research will be deceived.
In what camp does that leave our former host?

scott467

“and 3) you have to “bow at the altar of SD.” ”
__________________
I was just never any good at that one.
Not out of disrespect in any way, but it’s just not right.
I remember one time, after a worship session was getting in full swing, I commented that people should stop it, that this wasn’t a Sundance ‘worship’ blog, it was creepy, and I didn’t think Sundance wanted to be treated that way.
It was a perfect opportunity for SD to gracefully post something about how we’re all on the same team or something, but that didn’t happen.
The impromptu revival meeting stopped, but it only worked for short while, because they were doing it again, the next day or two.

NYGuy54

sundance is moving his blog in a different direction. He’s essentially given up on deep state countermoves and he will attack you if you disagree. It attracts a different type audience that I don’t think fits where I am at right now.

Aubergine

“The impromptu revival meeting.”
Scott, that is a perfect description!
I had a similar reaction to yours, not being disrespectful, just that’s wrong.
It seems there are many people looking for a “leader,” someone all-knowing and powerful to tell them how to think and what to do. I am not; I want to read, think, and decide for myself.
I am going WAY out on a limb here, but what if the Deep State really has compromised SD in some way, and is now using him against us, and by extension, against the President? He has a huge, invisible following. Most people NEVER comment, so we don’t even know about them.
I wonder, exactly when did the change in the comments section begin? I noticed something “off” with the comments months ago. Sundance could have chosen to ban-hammer THOSE people, but didn’t. Was that the beginning? Now, he has banned some of the most ardent supporters of PDJT, but the invisible readers don’t know that. They only read the negative articles and comments. They don’t know we are over here.
Of course, I could just be a crazy “conspiracy theorist.”

TheseTruths

Re: Robert Caron and Joshua Macias, there was a “bombshell” report by Tracy Beanz in Sept. involving them, but I thought it was later debunked. If anyone has details, please post them.

Alison

Thanks for the info. It is disappointing to hear so many supporters at the Treehouse have been treated to a form of shunning. I view it as their loss, not yours or ours.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

No, it’s the loss of everyone over there if a valuable commenter is banned. To the extent that good people are still over here, or lurking, that’s a loss to them.

churchmouse

No warning.
I was banned the Monday after Thanksgiving when I noticed I could no longer ‘like’ comments (one can still like SD’s posts).
By now, someone Over There **could be** reading over here and taking action accordingly. Who knows?

Plain Jane

That’s my thought.

scott467

“When many of you say you were banned, did you receive an email telling you that, or do your comments go into moderation without ever being released, or do your comments just not show up?”
________________
You will receive no email informing you that you have been banned.
Nothing. Zero, zip, zilch, nada.
No goodbyes, no consolation prizes, no parting gifts.
It’s like they never knew you, and you were never really there.
Like you’ve become a ghost.
You can still see everything, but no one can hear you anymore.
It’s a curious thing that ‘banishment’ is so widely practiced and accepted, in an era where radically less consequential actions — frequently including accidental utterances — routinely cause entire herds of snowflakes to melt into rivers, washing away anyone who might be caught up in the path of their tears of rage and apoplexy 😁

Sylvia Avery

Banishment. Shunning. Depersoning. It is a powerful tool for totalitarians to keep order in their communities or cults.

daughnworks247

Good point Alison, re: WordPress problems versus being banned.
Even though I’ve never had a WP problem, so many discussed their snafus, I naturally assumed it was my turn in the WP woodchipper.
Found Wolfmoon because I knew him (I mean, everyone knows WolfMoon, am I right?) and was looking for “help with WordPress”
It wasn’t until I arrived here did it dawn on me….., yep, I was banned.
Flabbergasted!!!!!!
No “comment in moderation”, no “warning email”, no warning whatsoever. It was only a few months ago when SD took one of my posts and made it a special feature. I was honored.
Never a problem w/ Facebook or Twitter, any social media, ever.
Yet, banned by fellow “Patriots”, where I hung out for YEARS?
Like others here, I’m moving thru the stages of grief and rapidly approaching, the Defcon 1 level of “Pi$$ed off”.
The division in our base is absurd, immature, and petty. It weakens us when our President needs us the most.

NYGuy54

You were banned? Really? You’re a good poster. Many years there. I got kicked off once but I was invited back after I inquired about it.

NYGuy54

And if anyone recalls, I was the very first poster there to warn about how people were trying to slice up the base and I was laughed at.

Alison

So sorry for you, Scott467 and all the others. Sylvia is right about the psychological effect of shunning. I’m sure no one thought that would occur at ‘the last refuge’.
I am grateful to Wolfmoon for facilitating a safe & welcome landing here. I daresay we have learned a thing or two about what we want in an online community, and the interaction here will be elevated because of your past experiences.
Bring on your riches of wisdom & opinion. I treasure them.

scott467

“So sorry for you, Scott467 and all the others. Sylvia is right about the psychological effect of shunning. I’m sure no one thought that would occur at ‘the last refuge’. ”
________________
Please don’t feel bad, it’s okay, I’m fine. When it happened, I had a feeling it was coming, I just didn’t know exactly when. I had just finished my 4th or 5th (maybe more) consecutive post disputing SD’s big anti-Q article, paragraph by paragraph, when I hit the ‘Post Comment’ button, and that time it didn’t post.
I knew from experience to check the ‘Like’ buttons to see if they still worked, like checking for a pulse — and they didn’t work anymore, so that’s when I knew. I remember I smiled and said ‘Well, I guess that’s it, then’.
It was a little sad, in the same way saying goodbye can be sad, but there was also a sense of ‘completion’, for lack of a better word. I did the best I could do. When it happened, I had the ball, I was in the clear, and running for the end zone like always.
I think that’s why I smiled. I was fighting for what I believed was right, right to the end, so no regrets.
If you have to go, that’s a pretty good way to do it 🙂
Then I found this place, which is even better 👍

singularZoe

Yes, Scott, you should feel good about the way your time at CTH ended, because you were acting according to principle and doing what was right, and you did your best. And now we have this wonderful place, at least for a whil

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I personally got no notification. I just could no longer like posts nor have a comment post.
Emailing their address, Ad Rem told me (to her surprise) that I was near the TOP of the permanent ban list. I tried emailing them a couple of more times, and never got a response.

NebraskaFilly

No notice at all – comments won’t post, likes won’t register. Some may be a result of WP-related problems but not THAT many, IMO.

Gudthots

The typical signs of a ban are: 1. You can still “Like” the blog articles. 2. You can’t “Like” comments, even after refreshing the page (another cause of that). 3. You can’t post comments or replies to comments.

para59r

Yes very noticeable, but he’d be banning an awful lot of people. Posts per individual were going about 60% against his opinion and 40% for. Hard to say though when ‘for’ are allowed more posts than ‘against’.
I’m thinking it might be I’m banned from the thread, and not CTH, but time will tell. Meanwhile I’m not to anxious to go back one way or the other.
Anyway, seems more like he’s running that place more as an operative with a hidden agenda. Meaning he’s going to strike the heard at crucial times to turn or slow them. I think a lot of that has always been going on but its becoming easier to spot.

churchmouse

‘I’m thinking it might be I’m banned from the thread, and not CTH …’
Unlikely.
Just try liking a comment on another thread. If your like shows up, you’re still in.

A.D. Everard

YES! That’s what I’m seeing as well, Para. The tantrum over Q began when we, as a herd, did not go where SD wanted us to go. He has this massive following and we were supposed to go where he directed!
Reminds me of the Hollywood stars convinced that one word from them will have their masses of fans moving wherever they direct politically. Then they wonder why their latest movie flops.

NYGuy54

Don’t bite on this leverage thing. The President will release the information we wanted to see.

para59r

The data points seem to agree with you.

Gudthots

*Pokes around looking for something…*
Oh, here you are, you can have my badge of honor. Nearly new actually. 😉

para59r

Hey! 🙂

Tonawanda

LOL.

Sylvia Avery

In my youth, the saying was always, “Well, er, I only look at it for the articles….”
I kind of feel that way, myself if I click on CTH. I only look at it for the articles. And any more, that has become kind of a quick skim most of the time because I feel like I have picked up The Weekly Standard or The National Review by mistake.

Cuppa Covfefe

Funny when you think about it, it’s the polar opposite with the Daily Fail. I only look at it for the pictures 🙂
And yep, I’m looking at CTH less and less. The pessimism is stifling. All of the rollover-and-dies there (the true possums, as it were)…

Tonawanda

What a fascinating post by Sundance, psychologically speaking. His psychology, I mean.
The main implicit point he is trying to convey is that he is not the Trump hater some might suspect.
But the other point he is making implicitly is that he is not some kind of closed minded narcissist, that he understands and respects differences of opinion, that one can be a true MAGA supporter without having to agree with every spoken Sundance word.
As I say, these messages are all implicit. But they are as close to an apology (I suspect) that you will ever get.
It was also strange to see a Sundance post written so understandably and explicitly (explicit on the explicit points, I mean). It was nice not to have to get through the riddle-wrapped-in-a-conundrum-wrapped-in-an-enigma style of writing.

daughnworks247

I’m still thinking husband’s first guess was correct.
SD is going through a nasty divorce and the bitter ex-wife got a hold of the blog.
It’s 180 degree turn and antithetical to the ‘values’ professed.

Tonawanda

You sparked a memory: a now deceased very dear, dear friend and I used to go to the same neighborhood watering hole starting in the mid-80’s.
The barmaid there was always abrupt, hostile, mean and unfriendly. But she served us what we wanted in a timely fashion, so we just wondered and tipped as usual.
Then after two or three years, she turned into a wonderful, funny, “intimate” barmaid we looked forward to seeing.
About 20 years later my friend and I were hanging out at the same place. The barmaid was still serving, and still delightful. Talk about sturdy conservatives.
We recalled how nasty the barmaid had been and decided we knew her well enough to ask her what accounted for the transformation, and she answered readily.
“I was going through a nightmare divorce. I got up angry and went to bed angry, anger mixed with depression and hopelessness.
“Then the divorce was over, he was 100% out of my life, and it felt like a great, horrible burden was lifted from my shoulders.
“I became myself again.”
We told her we loved who she really was, and we all laughed over the “mystery” which lasted two decades.

Cuppa Covfefe

A former colleague of mine who got shredded by an ex-wife with a better lawyer said:
Marriage is like a three-ring circus;
First, the engagement ring,
Next, the wedding ring,
Then, the suffering…
From personality and appearance, he was like Cliff Clavin on “Cheers”… wonder if that had anything to do with it 🙂

NYGuy54

I thought he was a divorced grocery store manager in Broward County.

wheatietoo

During the hurricanes last year…he talked like he was on the west coast of FL.
The central west coast area, T-bay area maybe.

NYGuy54

yeah I don’t know him so I can’t speak with authority about it.

Gudthots

If you believe SD 1.0 and SD 2.0 are the same person, an alternate explanation is that the drop in activity has moved him into what in domestic violence is the called the “honeymoon” phase where you are trying to woo your victim back after a big abuse event.
But it’s like looking at a 3-D puzzle from the outside without any insight into the gears on the inside.
Our honest reactions and views would actually be a gold mine for our former host if he were interested in understanding what we saw as the value added in the comments section of his articles.
Perhaps this is a view that would be truly surprising to our former host. Maybe he has been thinking the content of his articles are the main draw.
I did see that the comments were often the source of inspiration for new articles. And that seemed like a healthy ecology of sorts.

scott467

“If you believe SD 1.0 and SD 2.0 are the same person, an alternate explanation is that the drop in activity has moved him into what in domestic violence is the called the “honeymoon” phase where you are trying to woo your victim back after a big abuse event.”
_________________
Yes, but part of that ‘honeymoon’ phase necessarily involves leaving the door open to the one you threw out.
I just checked the knob… it’s still locked 😁

scott467

“But the other point he is making implicitly is that he is not some kind of closed minded narcissist, that he understands and respects differences of opinion, that one can be a true MAGA supporter without having to agree with every spoken Sundance word.”
____________________
That’s nice, but isn’t that horse already out of the barn, isn’t he just speaking to the choir now?
Seems like everyone with a different opinion was kicked out before he decided to respect differences of opinion 😁

singularZoe

Very likely he is doing it because the choir has shrunk in membership and donations are also down.

Tonawanda

Sundance (IMO) is a mixture of absolute brilliance and puzzling clumsiness. And (IMO) a believer in Jesus with all the good things that implies.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Welcome to the BannedWagon!!

phoenixRising

fleporeblog

Watched 30 minutes of it! FLOTUS was so comfortable speaking to the students as our FLOTUS and as a mom. I had tears in my eyes when Eric first introduced her to the students at Liberty University. The applause was so generous and overwhelming.
Eric shared a story that just reinforces how incredible our President truly is! He said the day after his son had died he and his wife were meeting with the doctor in Colorado. His phone rang and it was our President sharing his and Melania’s condolences and letting him and his wife know they were there for his family.
On Thanksgiving Day, the phone rang again and PDJT and Melania called to tell him and his wife that they were in their thoughts.
We are truly blessed as a country to have the two of them leading us!

churchmouse

Full video here:

scott467

There is an article this evening at CTH that helps to explain the disconnect, at least on one subject, “leverage”.
President Trump Discusses His Decision Not to Declassify “Spygate” Documents…
SD: “On one hand the declassification would potentially, and finally, outline the scale of the FBI/DOJ politicization and weaponization of intelligence against the President – exposing the entire ‘spygate’ scandal in all its glory. On the other hand that potential is also seen as political leverage against the schemes of DC and all the characters.”
Reply: Agreed.
.
SD: “From the CTH perspective this interview essentially solidifies something we have been outlining for several months: President Trump is applying the consideration of leverage to his decision-making.
Many have refused to accept “leverage” was part of President Trump’s primary determination and decision-making. CTH has been heavily criticized for even presenting such analysis. Hopefully, this interview puts an end to those criticisms.”
Reply: I don’t think anyone claimed that DJT was not using leverage, the dispute is whether it is ‘leverage in perpetuity, never to be used’ vs. ‘use it before you lose it’.
.
SD: “President Trump has fifty years of business skills in various predatory and adversarial financial deals. Leverage, or the ability to force an opponent to take an action that benefits your position, is the most valuable weapon in deals; business or politics the same is true.”
Reply: Fair enough, but HERE is the difference.
Leverage is only useful to the extent it can be exerted against an opponent. In business, DJT would ALWAYS have an opponent, whether it was organized crime trying to weasel their way into his business, or the government trying to obstruct deals, deny zoning variances, refusing permits, etc. These issues could never be ENDED, only dealt with, and leverage, if strong enough, could be equally indefinite.
But that is NOT the case here.
In this scenario, DJT has the opportunity to END the opponent. To drive a stake through Dracula’s heart. If he expends the ‘leverage’ and declassifies everything, it:
A) ‘Brings down the House’ (of Representatives) by exposing their part in the Treason
B) brings down the wholly corrupt leadership of the UK and Australia
C) brings down ALL of the corrupt elements of the FIB
D) brings down ALL of the corrupt elements of the DOJ
E) brings down Mueller and his team
F) brings down the corrupt and unConstitutional FISA court
G) brings down Chief Justice Roberts, who oversees the FISA court and appointed every corrupt FISA court judge
H) brings down corporate media, ALL of the dozens of ‘reporters’ who colluded with the Clinton campaign and Hussein, along with their editors and CEOs and boards of directors
Horowitz and Huber bring down the Clinton Crime Foundation and everything (and everyone) attached to it. Huber and/or FCC and courts bring down FB/Goog/Twitt/youtube and related monopolies for all kinds of anti-trust violations and violations of Constitutional rights (censorship against conservatives, violations of privacy, spying and lots more) in addition to working with foreign governments against the United States government (Treason).
The EO issued by DJT on December 21, 2017 (and apparently goes into effect January 2019) allows Treasury / Mnuchin to seize assets of anyone involved in interfering with our election process (Soros, Rothschild, Hussein, Clinton et al) or involved with human trafficking (Soros, Rothschild, Clinton, Gates, Red Cross, et al).
DHS report due before end of the year brings down the DNC nationwide voter fraud scheme, ushering in national voter ID (by legislation or judicial mandate) which destroys the DNC; electoral extinction.
I’m sure there is a LOT more that I’m forgetting.
The point is, unlike a scenario where ‘leverage’ is needed in perpetuity, in THIS case, if you EXPEND the ‘leverage’, it NUKES everything. ‘Leverage’ is no longer needed, when your opponent is obliterated.
The dominoes all fall down.
There will be NOBODY LEFT against whom ‘leverage’ will be required.
And remember also that the clock is always ticking on DJT’s ‘leverage’, because the longer he waits to USE it, the more time he gives to the Cabal to either get him or come up with a plan to escape and reconstitute.
So by all means, hold the ‘leverage’ of declassifying FISA for as long as necessary, until the battlefield is perfectly set.
But then you gotta USE it.
Huber testifies December 5th.
DHS report on election fraud is before the end of the year. If it includes multiple indictments against candidates who committed election fraud to win, we may not lose the House after all. And pick up more seats in the Senate. So it makes sense to play that card BEFORE the new Congress is sworn in, in January.
Actually USING the ‘leverage’, this time, WINS the game outright.

Linda

I have to agree. I’m wondering if PDJT’s comments in that interview were a feint to keep them from knowing what he’s going to do.

churchmouse

I certainly hope so.

churchmouse

I have now read SD’s post in full.
SD’s conclusion is that Trump’s No. 1 priority is restoring the economy for the long haul. SD also reminded readers that, during the 2016 campaign, Trump did tell supporters that they’d like a lot of what he would do as president and other things rather less.
So, SD thinks that Trump is putting the economy above the DS for now.

NYGuy54

yeah then next month, sd will say he can’t really affect the economy with Dems in the House…so Pres Trump made the wrong decision. He will move the goalposts each time.

scott467

“So, SD thinks that Trump is putting the economy above the DS for now.”
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Which is a contradiction, because as SD has explained many times, the Deeps State / Global Cabal and the economy are inextricably linked. That’s how the ‘Wall Street economy’ was separated from the ‘Main Street economy’ in the first place.
To focus on the economy without focusing on the Deep State is like trying to eat a birthday cake without getting any of the icing on your fork.

churchmouse

Exactly!
This will be so interesting to watch going forward.

daughnworks247

You’re probably right about that one, Linda. Even Q posed the question, ‘use it now, before the testimony, or after the testimony’. Q seemed to be asking for a discussion about the advantages (What are the advantages…) and limitations of both arguments….. which is what we are doing here.

Gudthots

From every video of our VSG Lion of a President, I see him as one who is always watching and listening audience reaction. Think of all the times he even comments on which person got the most applause when introduced or when he points to people with more enthusiasm in a rally crowd.
Who would not expect him to be daily, or even hourly taking in feedback from all over the country to inform and refine the trajectory towards his total goal set?

tomf

Some disinformation may be required.
I’m thinking that there’s more than one way to skin a cat with regard to the FISA exposure.
There’s a bevy of violations to bring against the conspirators.

wheatietoo

“G) brings down Chief Justice Roberts, who oversees the FISA court and appointed every corrupt FISA court judge”
________
This brings up a question that I have had, about exposing corruption in a SC Justice.
It’s never happened before, has it?
And if a SC Justice is exposed as ‘corrupt’ and is forced to step down…what happens to all of the rulings that they contributed to?
Are those rulings affected?
Or do all of their rulings still stand, unaffected by the charge of ‘corruption’.

scott467

Great questions, I’m not sure of the answers.
I suspect that a SC Justice has been impeached and removed for something, at some point in our history.
I would guess that the rulings of a SC judge (who was forced to step down for corruption) would stand, unless or except any ruling that was clearly a result of corruption.
For example, if a SC judge was bribed to throw a case, then the ruling was not made on the merits, it was made in (pursuant to?) the commission of a crime.
I don’t know how such a ruling could be allowed to stand, violating both the spirit and the letter of the Law in such a grotesque miscarriage of Justice.

Roberta

Whoaaaaa!

TheseTruths

This site lists judges that have been impeached: https://www.history.com/news/has-a-u-s-supreme-court-justice-ever-been-impeached
Summary:
1804 – SCOTUS Justice Samuel Chase is impeached for political reasons, is not convicted by the Senate, and continues to serve until his death.
1969 – “Abe Fortas became the first—and, to date, only—Supreme Court justice to resign under the threat of impeachment…Fortas was forced to step down due to financial improprieties that involved him agreeing to act as a paid consultant to the family foundation of a man under investigation for securities fraud.”
14 other federal judges have been impeached.
None of this answers the question of what would happen if a SCOTUS Justice were impeached and convicted of a crime against the country like FISA abuse or influencing an election.

wheatietoo

Thanks, TheseTruths.
There has been talk about Justice Roberts possibly having violated some adoption laws, when he & his wife adopted their two children.
This has come up in speculation as to ‘why’ he made that dreadful ruling on ObamaCare…that he might have been ‘blackmailed’ into making that ruling.

Deplorable Patriot

The Roberts children are from Ireland, and they had to go through another country to adopt them because Ireland will not allow children to be adopted into the US.
This is another we don’t know what we don’t know. Remember, the FISA court was set up long before he was chief justice (1978). We don’t know if he’s really choosing the judges or just rubber stamping a list put in front of him thanks to possible blackmail.
I’m reserving judgement on Roberts because even if he was the author of that Obamacare ruling, the victory for the other side was superficial at best as he left some poison pills in it for further down the road that escaped the original headlines.

NebraskaFilly

There was much speculation about that with PFA/OAS in 2014 but I can’t find any of my links from that time right now. Found these that appear to debunk that theory:
https://heavy.com/news/2017/01/jack-josie-roberts-john-roberts-children-family-adopted-inauguration-supreme-court-chief-justice-jane-ages/
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/02/the_ghost_and_john_roberts.html

Linda

Perhaps if it can be shown that he made that ruling due to blackmail, the “new” Supreme Court could redo the whole thing.
On a related note, though, what if it is found that Obama was never qualified to be President. Would every law he signed and every appointment he made be nullified? Now that would really be a can of worms!

Nor'easter

That’s what I would like to find out.
And I believe that we SHALL!

Sylvia Avery

Interesting about Abe Fortas. I don’t remember that, although I was pretty young. But I don’t ever remember hearing about it before. Wow.

churchmouse

I remember my mom talking about it when it happened. She followed politics intensely at the time.

Deplorable Patriot

Samuel Chase…yes, Thomas Jefferson didn’t like all the federalists being on the bench as they had too much power there. So he sought to remove them.

churchmouse

People have linked to opinion pieces Over There that say prior rulings and convictions could be affected. To what extent, however, is unclear.

Sylvia Avery

Samuel Chase, Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, was impeached in the early 1800s. Just that one time.
But good question. I’ve no idea what happens to their decisions. Yuk. Could be nasty. He just needs to resign, really, if he’s been compromised. It would be the honorable thing to do.

daughnworks247

SC Justice forced to step down – rulings not removed.
Only came close once before in our history. Samuel Chase was impeached by House, acquitted in Senate, 1804. Case was seen as a hallmark for independent judiciary. The impeachment attempt was political in nature, not for a crime.

para59r

Totally agrees and reposts what I mentioned earlier of a failed post in that CTH thread.
“When the fraudacrats take the house in Jan, the noise they make will fill everyone’s ears. Best to get this in the open now while we can still think and aren’t up to our ears fighting imaginary dragons.
I don’t much like the idea of trying to figure out “Oh was that leverage there?, wait for it wait for it…. ” Now that would be a bit too ‘Q’ish if you know what I mean as we go full circle… Meanwhile I shouldn’t have to tell anyone what ‘they’ [ Q and the Qanons] are clamoring loudly for now, while we debate simple ethics.
Personally I’m of the mind that POTUS may have suggested this leverage thing only because he didn’t hear a rally cry for Declassification and this ‘leverage’ thing is his second best option if the people are not solidly behind him.”

Disney Echo

Bravo! Too bad it isn’t possible to also make your points “over there”.

churchmouse

Scott, I agree with you 110%.
Just wanted to point out that SD’s prose there is a perfect example of making a simple issue complicated. Why does he have to pack his sentences with a lot of poly-syllabic words? This is why I used to read his Twitter feed where he explained everything simply.
In contrasting SD’s prose with your own, I know which I would rather read.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I think he does it to seem more educated and intelligent. The problem with that is, you don’t need to do that; your clarity of thought will be apparent without it.
And he misuses a lot of his polysyllabic words, or uses them in a way that although technically correct, is quite odd. This has the ironic effect of making him look LESS intelligent and certainly more foolish.
Case in point: “transparent.” He uses it as if to mean “clear” when it actually means “can be seen through.” He’ll mention a hidden thing and say it’s transparent (when “clear” or “obvious” would be a better word choice); no, what should be transparent is whatever it’s (not very well) hidden under.
Anyhow, I got banned for pointing this out…570 days ago, not that I’m counting, mind you.

Gudthots

If you are anything, you are consistent.
Not that I find that reminder of your long suffering is getting worn or anything. 🙂

churchmouse

Thank you for making all those excellent points, Steve.
Agree 110%.

scott467

“Just wanted to point out that SD’s prose there is a perfect example of making a simple issue complicated. Why does he have to pack his sentences with a lot of poly-syllabic words?”
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If I had to guess, I would say that his training / education required that he write somewhat ‘formally’, and so that is his habit, at least when he composes complete articles for publication on the website.
Or I suppose you could call it ‘old school’, or closer to the way we were taught in English classes, compared to the more ‘free-form’ or conversational style commonly used in the comments section.
I like the informal style better. It’s easier, both to write and to read, and because it also allows for one’s individual personality to be expressed more clearly, which makes each individual’s writing more distinctive and recognizable, all of which is helpful to get the reader’s attention and communicate more effectively, IMO.
By contrast, unless one is very skilled, a more ‘formal’ writing style often ends up sounding technical with less of the individual personality traits that make people — and what they write — more interesting. Again, IMO 😉

churchmouse

I actually have a degree in English Writing, which covered everything from creative writing to journalism to expository writing.
In each genre, we were taught to keep it simple. Polysyllabic words are fine, provided one or two are used per sentence to enhance the meaning.
In all cases, a sentence should be relatively short and — above all — clear.
For these reasons, I disagree with SD’s writing style, especially as he uses it only when he explains complex topics. That makes his posts really hard to understand, which is why I go to his Twitter feed on occasion to find out what he actually means.

scott467

“For these reasons, I disagree with SD’s writing style, especially as he uses it only when he explains complex topics. That makes his posts really hard to understand, which is why I go to his Twitter feed on occasion to find out what he actually means. ”
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I see what you mean, and I agree, and I defer to your degree in English Writing for sure!
Even so, I don’t have much difficulty with the vocabulary, it’s the lack of connecting the dots in a logical progression that often causes me to wonder what in the world he’s talking about.
I tried to explain it better, using a recent example below.

churchmouse

The problem comes in packing too many complicated words into a sentence that already has a complicated structure and is conveying a complicated idea.
Prose should not be unnecessarily complicated. His is.
Certainly, we all know what the vocabulary means, but then decoding it all (‘What’s he saying?’) is something else. This is why his tweets are much better.
Maybe SD wants readers to see him as a political esoteric. He is one of a handful who knows the truth. He makes some of his analyses **unnecessarily complicated** so that readers will keep coming back.
Invariably, such posts bring much adulation in the comments.

scott467

“Invariably, such posts bring much adulation in the comments.”
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A compliment is nice… but adulation creates a really weird atmosphere, and once somebody starts, it often devolves quickly into a contest to see who can top the last person in their praise.
Pretty soon it feels like you might be the only one who didn’t drink the Kool-Aid, and it’s positively weird to be around a group of people who seem to have collectively lost their sense of self-awareness.
It creeps me out a little 😁

churchmouse

Me, too, which is why I never felt very comfortable there.
I don’t think some of the people praising him have **ever** had any sense of self-awareness.
He has probed and played (preyed?) on a vulnerable readership market: those suffering from battered conservative syndrome. Like Muller in the X Files, they really ‘want to believe’. So, they’ll believe anything.
Not everyone Over There is suffering from it, but those who adulate him are. They’re the ones who also get most mixed up in rubbish like ‘white hat’ versus ‘black hat’. My jaw dropped open every time I saw comments like, ‘Could Mueller be a white hat?’ or ‘Rosenstein must be a white hat’. Yeah, right.
(I know what Q says, but there is no way Rosenstein is a good guy.)

scott467

Having said all that, a lot of times I have trouble figuring out where SD is going in his articles. Sometimes he even asks if we understand, and more than once I have replied “No, there are too many unconnected dots.”
There is a term (and I don’t remember what it is) for what often happens when writers assume their audience has the same background / foundation / knowledge base as the writer has, and so the writer skips over things, leaving gaps which the reader is expected to know and fill in. I experience this phenomena regularly with SD.
Last night’s article, Michael Cohen Pleads Guilty to Lying to SSCI… is a case in point.
I have no idea what he was talking about.
SD: “Don’t get so caught up debating the granular issues over ‘muh Russia’ that you fail to elevate and see the landscape from the 30,000 ft. level. The Rosenstein/Mueller move today is all about protecting the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) from President Trump (declassification threats);”
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How does Cohen’s plea deal protect anyone, on the SSCI or elsewhere? We never find out, it’s just assumed that we know.
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SD: “…and it was specifically scheduled, timed, to be launched today as Trump leaves for the G20 to achieve maximum political damage.”
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What damage was inflicted? DJT has done nothing wrong. Cohen seems to be somewhat shady, got himself in trouble, and now he’s saying whatever Mueller wants him to say in exchange for a reduced sentence.
99% of the population has never even heard of Cohen. What damage could he possibly do to DJT?
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SD: “This power-move by Mueller and Rosenstein (the small-group teams within the construct and not just the individuals), is another move with a similar motivation to the plea agreement over SSCI security director, James Wolfe.”
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Power move? It looks pathetically weak, not powerful. Mueller is once again showing the whole country that his is an investigation in search of a crime that doesn’t exist, so once again he creates a crime by entrapping someone in a lie, which is a ‘process crime’, the same way the FIB routinely entraps people and then charges them with lying to force them to cooperate.
How does this ‘power move’ do any ‘damage’ at all to DJT? We never find out.
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SD: “Whitaker is powerless to stop it.”
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Why would he want to? Why does anybody care what Cohen is doing? DJT didn’t do anything wrong, didn’t break any laws, so whatever trouble Cohen is in, it’s his problem, not DJT’s.
I understand the frustration over giving James Wolfe the plea deal, and how that protected the corrupt SSCI, because if Mueller hadn’t given James Wolfe a plea deal, Wolfe could have squealed on the corrupt Senators (Warner, Burr, et al) revealing their part in orchestrating the leaks.
That didn’t ‘damage’ Trump either, it just protected (for now) the corrupt SSCI.
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SD: “Rosenstein and Mueller are protecting their allies in the most corrupt committee in DC.”
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Agreed. But why is it a ‘power move’, what does the ‘timing’ have to do with inflicting ‘maximum political damage’ on anyone, including DJT? We never find out.
The next 7 paragraphs are about James Wolfe, not Cohen. Then back to Cohen:
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SD: “The Cohen plea is part of creating that DC swamp leverage that benefits all of these creatures….. and it is timed to undermine the President at the beginning of the G20 because the geopolitical perspectives/policies of Donald Trump, that are counter to the indulgent life amid the benefactors inside DC, is what made Trump the original threat to the system.”
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I have read that sentence several times now, and I don’t have any idea what it means, lol!
What ‘leverage’ was created, and how (and against whom) would it be deployed?
What did the timing have to do with anything?
How will Mueller and his side show have any impact at all on DJT’s goals and objectives at the G20?
Everything after ‘creatures…” seems to be a non-sequitur, i.e., the conclusion does not follow from the premises. Remove the ‘that are counter to the indulgent life amid the benefactors inside DC; from the middle and we’re left with:
“…and it is timed to undermine the President at the beginning of the G20 because the geopolitical perspectives/policies of Donald Trump is what made Trump the original threat to the system.”
Okay… but he has been a threat from day 1, and from day 1 they have always taken whatever ‘angle’ they can to annoy him, and mostly they just succeed at making themselves look desperate and corrupt in the process.
How does that ‘damage’ DJT?
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SD: “This is Deep State (via Mueller/Rosenstein) fighting President Trump;”
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Then the Deep State is LOSING, badly!
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SD: “…and trying to blunt the declassification weapon he holds. Nothing more:”
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How so? Why won’t he EXPLAIN what in the WORLD he’s talking about… it frustrates the DAYLIGHTS out of me, lol!
Let’s play it out.
Michael Cohen, who nobody besides news junkies has ever heard of, took a plea deal to help himself, in a case that has nothing to do with DJT.
And this is the Deep State’s game plan to counter DJT’s declassification of FISA, which will expose the treason committed by multiple Senators in leadership positions of both parties, along with Crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan, Lo-retta Lynch, Valerie Jarrett, Susan Rice, Eric Holder, Samantha Power, James Clapper, James Comey and HUSSEIN?
Some guy (Cohen) that nobody has ever heard of, vs. laying bare the sedition and treason (and countless other SERIOUS crimes) committed by the leadership of BOTH parties, the wife of a former president, and the first black Marxist Muslim president, and ALL of his henchmen?
If Michael Cohen’s plea deal was their ace-in-the-hole, dandy Don Meredith can start singing ‘Turn Out the Lights, the Party’s Over’ NOW 😁

churchmouse

I fully agree:
‘I have read that sentence several times now, and I don’t have any idea what it means, lol!
‘Why won’t he EXPLAIN what in the WORLD he’s talking about… it frustrates the DAYLIGHTS out of me, lol!’
Your analysis makes a lot more sense than his, partly because I can actually understand it. You’ve written clear, comprehensible explanations.
I agree with you. I can’t see that Michael Cohen’s case has any impact on anything or anyone other than himself. As far as PDJT is concerned, Cohen is a lying gnat.

scott467
singularZoe

IMO, the

Tonawanda

Wonderful analysis. Leverage has a shelf life and Trumps understands that. Sundance does not.

NYGuy54

spot on.

A Fortiori (@AFortiori16)

I wonder if the EO on military tribunals has something to do with Trump’s thinking. Perhaps there is an effective date reason for waiting?

wheatietoo

Yes.
And yes…the effective date for that EO is Jan 1st, 2019.

A.D. Everard

Mammoth post, Scott! I agree 100%. It MUST be used or all this is for nothing because the cockroaches WILL be back. If they are ever restored to power they will obliterate everything. They will also go after Donald Trump, his family, his team and his supporters. Remember that obnoxious tweet? “His kind must not rise again”.
President Trump KNOWS what will happen if he does not act.

Gudthots

State Supreme Court: Roe v. Wade ‘patently illogical’
Shocking decision declares unborn baby is ‘a person’

I don’t see why this decision should be considered shocking. Do you?
https://www.wnd.com/2018/10/shocker-court-rules-unborn-baby-a-person/

wheatietoo

Haven’t there been a couple of cases where someone was charged with taking ‘two lives’…because the victim was a pregnant lady?
I think there have been, but I didn’t follow the cases to see how they turned out.
It just struck me at the time…that this was progress, towards getting Roe v Wade overturned.

scott467

“Haven’t there been a couple of cases where someone was charged with taking ‘two lives’…because the victim was a pregnant lady?
I think there have been, but I didn’t follow the cases to see how they turned out.”
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Absolutely.
And it’s Biblical, it goes all the way back to Exodus.
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“If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman’s husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. [23] And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, [24] Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, [25] Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.” (Exodus 21:22-25, KJV)
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WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT HURTING THE UNBORN
http://uipeducation.org/BWVdocs/HurtingtheUnborn.pdf
“In Exodus 21:22-23, God gives the law concerning injury to the unborn. The passage reads as follows in the King James translation, which is closest to the original Hebrew:
If men strive and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief
follows; he shall be surely punished, according as the woman’s husband will lay upon him; and he
shall pay as the judges determine. And if any mischief follows, then thou shalt give life for life.

The Hebrew word translated here as “mischief” is asone, which means “hurt.”
“To paraphrase, if a pregnant woman gives birth because she is unintentionally injured in a fight between
men, and the child suffers no harm, the men will still be punished according to the husband’s wishes,
and judges will determine the compensation to be paid. If the child suffers harm and dies, it is consid-
ered murder and the men will be punished according to the punishment for a capital offense – a life for a
life.
Thus, mother and unborn child were entitled to equal protection under the law”

Sylvia Avery

I believe Sharon Rocha, Lacey Peterson’s mom, successfully lobbied Connor’s Law that meant (I THINK) someone who killed a pregnant woman could be charged with two murders because, well, it is. And that was in California for heaven’s sake, and probably something like ten years ago now….
And there are others.

Linda

I’m thinking that was sarcasm. WND is a Christian site and I don’t know any Christians who think an unborn baby isn’t a person.

scott467

Not shocking at all, what’s shocking is that anyone ever argued otherwise.
It would be better for the court to declare an unborn baby is a ‘boy’ or a ‘girl’ rather than a ‘person’.
‘Person’ is legalese for all kinds of things to entrap us in codes and statutes. Even ‘corporations’ are ‘persons’.
‘Person’ derives from ‘Persona’, a ‘corporate’ persona, like your Strawman, which the government recognizes by addressing ‘you’ (your Strawman, not YOU the living Man or living Woman) in ALL CAPS.
Look at your driver’s license, your credit cards, your checks, any government correspondence, your utility bills, practically everything ‘official’ that has your name shows your name in ALL CAPS.
That’s not by accident.
That’s part of the whole scheme that has been perpetrated against We the People, moving us away from Common Law (where our Constitutional Rights are paramount) and into civil law, treating us like corporations instead of natural human beings, where our Constitutional Rights have been exchanged for ‘benefits and privileges’ — which (of course) can be REVOKED at any time for ‘non-compliance’. That is their leverage, ‘in perpetuity’, against We the People.
So it sounds like a step in the right direct to recognize an unborn child as a ‘person’, it’s better than NOT recognizing the unborn child as a ‘person’ — but it a lot more than a ‘person’, it is a MAN-child or a WOMAN-child, a natural human being, as opposed to a corporate ‘persona’.
A natural human being with inherent and unalienable God-given rights.
A ‘person’ is a civil construct, which may or may not have God-given rights recognized and protected by the Constitution.
But a living Man or Woman always has God-given rights recognized and protected by the Constitution.
I know I’m not explaining this very well, it has been purposely complicated to prevent us from ‘seeing’ our prison, so we never even think to try to escape.
The best ‘short’ explanation I can reference actually has to do with Chief Justice Roberts and his Hussein-care ruling.
The following is just an excerpt from a short document on Roberts’ Obamacare decision (see the pdf link above for the complete article), but it highlights and reveals that the CENTERPIECE of the Roberts decision was actually to draw attention to the fact that our government has been engaging in a pervasive type of FRAUD against the American People for over a century now:
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CHIEF JUSTICE ROBERTS On OBAMACARE & The IRS — Traitor or Patriot? YOU Decide.
http://americannationalmilitia.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/CHIEF-JUSTICE-ROBERTS-ON-OBAMACARE-THE-IRS-1.pdf
“You see, Roberts jammed the machine. And scared the crap out of the entire Federal government by doing it. That’s why no other Justice would join him— he terrified them too.
And he did it because it was the only way he could find to halt the unstoppable expansion of a process that was originally promised by Congress to be limited only to the income tax – but technically could be applied to anything at all Congress wanted.
What was that process?
• The Federal government’s ability to presume that natural human person Americans had volunteered to be treated as corporations under the law;
• The Federal government’s ability to do this without telling the people that such a presumption had been made against them;
• The Federal government’s ability to use this presumption to deny Americans their inalienable constitutional rights by replacing them with government-controlled corporate privileges;
• And finally, The Federal government’s ability to not tell Americans how to get out of that presumption without being harmed by trying to do so.”
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And this is just the tip of the iceberg.
People (in the “Patriot” movement, “Sovereignty” movement, etc.) have been making these same points for years, on MANY issues, but were always dismissed by the lower courts as being “frivolous”.
But now the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court has made the exact SAME argument — and NO court in the land can say the argument made by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court is frivolous!
It would appear that what Roberts did was to actually expose the mechanism of the whole deception — by the United States federal government — which they have used to usurp the Constitutional rights of the American People AND all of the many powers reserved to the STATES by the Constitution.

Emeraldstar

Excellent post, Scott.
I tried, Over There, a couple times to hip people to some of what you’ve pointed out.
But I knew I had to tread VERY lightly. So, I began with the difference between the Peace-time flag (Stars and Bars) and the War-time flag (Stars and Stripes), and the difference between a “pennant” (with fringe) and a “flag” (without fringe). Essentially, the former means captured / dependent, while the latter means free / independent.
Flag-lore is great jumping off point, because it just seems so innocuous at first. Then one may dig deeper, to realize the difference between Admiralty Law and Common Law, and to go on from there.
I didn’t get much interest Over There, other than passing curiosity. So I let the matter be.
The whole Citizens United suit – that corporations are “persons”, and so, are allowed (and have the RIGHT) to contribute to politicians – should have woken everyone up.
But the Bread and Circuses, Matrix-style slumber is difficult to wake up from, and near-impossible unless one REALLY wants to wake up to reality.
I’m encouraged by the fact that you, and Filly, at least, have already latched onto the real problem, and that we can help other posters here get informed about it as well.
But what we can and should DO about it, though, is an entirely different question. I believe the answer(s) will come …

Gudthots

People want to see how it impacts their daily grind. If law enforcement is supporting the matrix illusion, your daily life is going to be less encumbered if you buy in.

Tonawanda

Your post is a perspective changer, that’s for sure.

NebraskaFilly

I am jumping for joy, scott! Hallelujah! Someone else is aware of this travesty and understands why we are where we are today. And it all goes back to the Act of 1871, which essentially incorporated the United States. There are currently TWO Constitutions – the original, which rests in the dustbin, and the Constitution of the United States of America, INC., which turned every single US citizen into nothing but property to be used as collateral against the corporation’s international debt.

Emeraldstar

“incorporated the United States”
In Delaware, from what I’ve heard.
And – paying strict attention to upper-case v. lower-case letters – the ORIGINAL Constitution used the phrase, the “united States of America”. Note the lower-case “u”.
From what I understand, this case-change was one of the devious means by which the traitorous lawmakers effected a different meaning, by strict interpretation of law.
And the word “citizen” originally applied ONLY to British / English subjects, whilst residing in our Republic. It did NOT apply to Americans. And guess what. It STILL doesn’t!
There’s a ton more – as I’m sure you know, Filly.
Baby-steps!
Cheers!

Linda

Ha ha ha!

Tonawanda

Better and better!

wheatietoo

Aww…this is so sweet.
https://twitter.com/Cory_1077/status/1067989649191137280
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Although, it may be a case of “Are we playing a game, mommy?”…rather than empathy.
Either way, it’s sweet.
A couple more cute poochie vids:
https://twitter.com/Cory_1077/status/1067996154216861696
https://twitter.com/Cory_1077/status/1067991480894087169

para59r

Ha! Empathy dog even got the little pup to raise a foot!

wheatietoo

Haaa…I noticed that too.
It’s like the little guy was going, “What are we doing, raising a paw? Okay.”

wheatietoo

Was someone painting Pres Trump with a laser target?
Some people on twitter think so.
See for yourself…the ‘red dot’ on PDJT starts at around the 4:57 mark.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL8L3gHyE64&w=560&h=315%5D
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It could’ve been some asshole with a laser pointer.
But I dunno…it’s creepy.
Maybe this is why they left so quickly.

Sylvia Avery

It most likely was some dipshi*t with a laser pointer, but I think that is a distinct threat and I hope the SS finds him and sticks him in a black op site forever. That really makes me angry.

wheatietoo

Yes…because even a laser pointer can cause retina damage, if it hits your eye.
Grrrr. I hope they found whoever was doing it.

para59r

This was the most upvoted comment at GWP. “Not lasers. Red focus beams from the cameras reflecting off the bullet-proof panel he is standing behind”.
Actually ran across a post today about the bullet proof panel thing prior to the tree lighting. Can’t find where I saw it though but the bullet proof structure was large enough to park a small bus in.
Still though whoever did this, likely did it deliberately for just this effect IMO.

churchmouse

Disgusting.

Roberta

Apologies; your comment wasn’t showing when I replied re the 8chan traffic. Thanks for this info.

Roberta

On 8chan this morning, questions (in response to latest Q drops) re “Ass………. practice.” No confirmation yet.

A.D. Everard

Looks like they’ve changed the video link. I did see it though, but I think it’s something else reflecting on the glass, maybe a camera. Just guessing…

para59r

GWP has opened up a new front with new news on Epstien. Passes it on in case you missed it.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/11/robert-muellers-fbi-gave-orgy-island-billionaire-epstein-light-sentence-today-details-were-released-on-his-widespread-child-sex-abuse/
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/11/sorry-lib-media-bill-clinton-took-26-junkets-with-deviant-epstein-trump-banned-the-perv-from-mar-a-lago/
Sees that Drudge has picked up on this also.
Note. For me GWP is one of those sites I have a hard time getting around on. Computer keeps locking up though I can sometimes get to comments.
Dailycaller is much worse. Freezes now right out of the box.
Contingency is to read from phone or tablet.
Hopes none of you have my problems and its just dumb operator and old equipment. 🙂

churchmouse

Thanks for the links.
I could access GP easily. However, a few months ago, they underwent DDOS attacks, so it’s not unheard of.
I can also access DC easily.
Anyway, the important items in the article are:
1/ We can now see the handwritten messages about the schoolgirls (good grief);
2/ Mueller was FBI director at the time, and the case was heard in DC;
3/ Alex Acosta was the US Attorney (Florida) in charge. This was discussed Over There when he was nominated for the Secretary of Labor position;
4/ FBI agents felt pressured to stop investigating.

NebraskaFilly

Sounds like that is a problem with your computer – JMO. You might try installing Ghostery and AdBlockerPlus. DC will ask you to whitelist them but you can continue to read without doing so. Plus, clear your cache every day, as well as deleting saved thumbnails and such. Will make your computer run much more smoothly. No doubt there are many others here who are MUCH more tech savvy than I who could assist you. Then again, you probably already know this. Just disregard if that is the case.

Roberta

Thank you for bringing this to our attention. And reminding us to WATCH these films of our beloved POTUS.

churchmouse

Trump supporters have a tendency to elevate his appointees a bit too much sometimes. We would do better to reserve judgement until we see what they do over time.
One case in point is Mike Pompeo: ‘He should run for President in 2024’.
On November 27, for whatever reason, he appointed a rabid anti-Trumper, Mary Kissel, to be his senior adviser for policy and messaging:

Ryan Saavedra’s article has a load of tweets from Wall Street Journal editorial board member Mary Kissel. Here’s one of them:

Trump tweeted about her in 2016:

What is going on with Pompeo?

churchmouse

Felice tweeted:
https://twitter.com/Baba9773/status/1067896257576882177
I couldn’t agree more!

wheatietoo

Yeah, I’ve had a wait-and-see attitude about Pompeo…ever since I read about his background.
He has a ‘history’ with the Koch Brothers.
It might be nothing, but it’s something to file away.

churchmouse

Definitely something to keep in mind.
I didn’t know that. Thanks for the info.

JasonD

I think a wait and see approach is required on all who have spent significant time in DC.
If you have spent mucho time in DC and DON’T have a record that says “Law respecting Patriot” (LRP) then you are a self serving swamp scum bucket.
It appears that DJT is capable of putting these people to work for MAGA – but they cannot be trusted beyond their current remit, unless they are a LRP.

Deplorable Patriot

Exactly. This could be a way to shut her up and we don’t know about it.

NYGuy54

Just hold your fire until you know. Sometimes things aren’t what they appear to be.

Alison

Responding to a few comments above …
One thing that drives me crazy in comments is instantaneous exuberance or despair over appointees who might, or might not, pan out. President Trump operates differently from politicians, and I don’t need to explain those differences to all of you b/c I know you ‘get it’. (Wheatie explained it well a day or so ago).
Perhaps Sec. Pompeo is hiring Kissel at this time for a specific reason. Or she’s realized President Trump isn’t the dumb f**k she trashed in earlier seasins. Or she’s one more anti-Trumper who weasled her way in the door.
From what I’ved observed in Sec. Pompeo’s short stint, he has done a great job supporting President Trump’s agenda. My first reaction, hearing about Kissel’s appointment was “ugh”. Then I realized the articles announcing her appointment were written in a way that INTENTIONALLY elicits an “ugh” response.
I’m with Deplorable P and NYGuy – waiting to react until I have more info. Pompeo isn’t stupid, and I don’t view him as white or black hat. Digging deeper for relevant data is difficult, but that’s where we are.

wheatietoo

Heheh.
Ben Garrison’s take on the staged show at the border:
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The Anons have been rounding up other photos, taken at the same time as the ‘famous’ one.
This is the famous one:
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This is from the other side:
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Notice the cameraman and how it looks like she is getting the kids into the ‘right’ position.

wheatietoo

Here’s a wider shot, from the other side:comment image
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Other camera guys in this wider shot.
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wheatietoo

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NYGuy54

This is exactly what Hamas has been doing for years. Wictor is late to the party on that idea. Tells me Iran is involved likely with help from Soros.

churchmouse

The Washington Examiner has a good article on Pompeo’s never-Trump hires — and other never-Trumpers in the administration. This is shocking (emphases mine):
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/why-did-mike-pompeo-hire-never-trumper-mary-kissel-as-a-top-adviser?_amp=true
‘ … Kissel’s hire is not an abnormality, it’s the status quo. As the personnel has become more establishment and less focused on making America great again, so have the policies coming out of the White House.
‘For example, Pompeo hired another “Never Trumper,” Jim Jeffrey, who opposed Trump during the campaign after the billionaire condemned the Iraq War and said he wanted to avoid long-term conflicts in the Middle East. Jeffrey is now the representative for Syria engagement and said policy has shifted from a light footprint in the war-torn to country to the U.S. having a “more active approach in Syria” and with “no rush to leave.”
Another “Never Trumper” who altered policy goals of the Trump administration was former legislative director Marc Short, who ran a multimillion-dollar campaign opposing Trump in the primaries. He was a former Koch Brothers employee who openly admitted he wasn’t cutting deals with Republicans in Congress to do anything about immigration.
There’s also Johnny DeStefano, who was the director of presidential personnel and now is a counselor to the president. DeStefano has earned the ire of conservatives like Mark Levin and Richard Viguerie for his establishment leanings and flooding the administration with former Bush personnel and Trump critics.
‘During a sit-down interview with ABC back in October, first lady Melania Trump revealed that she believed there were members of the Trump administration that couldn’t be trusted. She was right; maybe Trump should lean on her more to do the vetting and hiring. Maybe Melania can drain the swamp?
If this were within the first several months of his presidency, I could understand getting establishment people in there to a) see what they know and b) then get rid of them.
But, as we’re heading into 2019, it’s all a bit strange.
Agree with the conclusion: listen to Melania!!

NYGuy54

This sounds like Cernovich stuff. I will see how things progress before I start whacking Pompeo.

A.D. Everard

Also it’s the Washington Examiner. Not sure how far along the line they are for fake news. There Are So Many.

churchmouse

Cernovich was right about HR McMaster.

A.D. Everard

Is Washington Examiner one to be trusted? I tend not to trust any of ’em now. President Trump runs a pretty tight ship and there’s nothing I’ve seen that indicates any of his team are moving away from Making America Great Again.
If the wrong people are in place, they won’t last long. President Trump keeps an eye on results.

churchmouse

The Washington Examiner has been accurate in its reporting as long as I’ve been reading it (three years now).
I believe the First Lady when she says there are some people there who shouldn’t be. They rightly quoted her from her Africa interview.
After HR McMaster got sacked, I did a long series (reposted on my blog from another site for which I write) on his tenure in the Trump administration. The newspaper articles derided Over There at the time were not wrong. The same goes for news reports about someone else who is no longer around, but I won’t go into that.

JasonD

Not sure if any here have ever run across Brigitte Gabriel?
I have seen her before in forums where Islamism is being discussed – she takes no prisoners.
She has met PDJT, is a big supporter and has founded a MAGA activist org to help MAGA. It is called ActForAmerica.org
Has anyone heard of her? Check out this interview (Part2)

churchmouse

Have bookmarked to watch later.
According to the video blurb, she is a ‘national security expert’.

wheatietoo

Oh yeah, Brigitte Gabriel is great…been a fan of hers for years.
Thanks for the video!

JasonD

Here is Part 1 – on the minor matter of saving western civ

Tonawanda

She had that amazing interchange a couple years back with a muslima who tried to create propaganda video using Gabriel as a prop. Gabriel squashed her flat.

NebraskaFilly

Here is the video of that exchange:

Tonawanda

That’s it
BTW, during the Kavanaugh hearings I kept looking at Ballsey Ford’s attorney and thinking he looks so familiar. Why?
This video gave me my answer. He looks like Frank Gaffney.

NYGuy54

She runs the PAC that Scott Presler works for. Some people think the Persistance dude works for the Republican party but he gets paid by Gabriel.

NebraskaFilly

Oh, heavens yes! I have watched many of her videos and speeches. This is one that should be required watching, IMO, re: the MB:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFxNPvns7nU

NebraskaFilly

Another of Brigitte’s videos worth watching – she explains her history, how Israel saved her and her family, and the MB plans to destroy the US from within – from 2011:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFO1AtjoUoo

churchmouse

Tariffs work. BMW considers a second plant in the US:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-bmw-manufacturing/bmw-chief-says-considering-second-u-s-manufacturing-plant-idUSKCN1NX00R
‘BMW (BMWG.DE) is considering a second U.S. manufacturing plant that could produce engines and transmissions, Chief Executive Harald Krueger said on Tuesday, shortly after a report that U.S. President Donald Trump would impose tariffs on imported cars from next week.’

churchmouse

Now that she has to pay up, Stormy Daniels claims Michael Avenatti sued Donald Trump without her permission:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/stormy-daniels-michael-avenatti-filed-defamation-case-against-trump-against-my-wishes/
‘Here is her full statement, provided to The Daily Beast:
‘“For months I’ve asked Michael Avenatti to give me accounting information about the fund my supporters so generously donated to for my safety and legal defense. He has repeatedly ignored those requests. Days ago I demanded again, repeatedly, that he tell me how the money was being spent and how much was left. Instead of answering me, without my permission or even my knowledge Michael launched another crowdfunding campaign to raise money on my behalf. I learned about it on Twitter.
‘ … I don’t want to hurt Michael, but it’s time to set the record straight. The truth has always been my greatest ally.
‘“My goal is the same as it has always been—to stand up for myself and take back my voice after being bullied and intimidated by President Trump and his minions. One way or another I’m going to continue in that fight, and I want everyone who has stood by me to know how profoundly grateful I am for their support.”’

wheatietoo

It’s doubtful that Stormy will never see any of that donated money…Creepy Porn Lawyer probably considers it ‘his’ money.
But she’s the one who is on the hook to pay PDJT’s legal fees.

churchmouse

She should have thought of that earlier.

wheatietoo

Yep. I don’t feel sorry for her…at all.

Deplorable Patriot

WHOA! Really. This is better than anything Hollywood has produced in years.

churchmouse

You bet! 🙂
‘Enjoy the show!’

churchmouse

What’s going on with Caius Lowell?
Weird comments:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/11/28/melania-trump-liberty-university-convocation-and-town-hall-discussion-on-opioid-crisis/
Caius Lowell says:
November 28, 2018 at 8:53 pm
Can you next please remind me why the term “Obamaphone” is incorrect because the government had been giving phones away before Obama came to office because I forget.
Someone explains Obamaphones, adds that it’s off topic (true) and he comes back with this:
Caius Lowell says:
November 28, 2018 at 9:55 pm
Similar because leftist dissembling is used to excuse Obama’s complicity in both instances — I’ll try to go slower next time…
Later in the thread he accuses CTH folks of defending Obama, when they’re clearly not. They’re talking about adverse opioid effects:
Caius Lowell says:
November 29, 2018 at 1:06 am
Why are commenters on CTH so quick to defend Obama? Next thing they’ll be defending the Sacklers, who seemed to be able to do what they wanted under Obama and were well compensated under Obamacare: https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a12775932/sackler-family-oxycontin/

Sylvia Avery

Okay, so that was odd.

churchmouse

Very.

Sylvia Avery

I remember seeing the name before, but he made no impression on me apparently. But this is kind of off base. One of those things where I wonder if the unfortunate person takes drugs to regulate a serious chemical imbalance int he brain and they decided to quit taking them (as often happens). I’m just kind of taken aback by the disconnectedness and overall peculiar nature of the comments.

churchmouse

Me, too.
Caius Lowell has always been a considered, sensible commenter. This is out of character for him.
Your hypothesis is an interesting one.

Sylvia Avery

Total shot in the dark.
Or maybe he’s a drinker and decided to tie one on and post. It is just so OFF that I’m scrambling to make sense of it.

churchmouse

Me, too.
I have no idea what’s going on with him.
He couldn’t have posted on the wrong thread, either, because there were no Dem trolls commenting on those posts.

churchmouse

Cripto (on the Spygate thread) about the state of Over There:
cripto says:
November 29, 2018 at 3:28 am
Somebody will turn the lights off here. Done and dusted. What does anyone need to know?
We are left with the few loyalists, the libertarians who trash anyone in their cites, the putin bots, the moaners, the half believers in the MSM, the violent weirdos who call for gruesome deaths for all who don’t agree with them, all pushing agendas.
It is very plain to see the cracks, Farewell to arms.
How about America First. The MAGA call we all supported.

Sylvia Avery

Wow!

churchmouse

IKR?

Sylvia Avery

This makes me think about Wolf’s tip off about the systematic take down of conservative sites via the comments section.
I just went over and skimmed a bit and there is sure nothing there to draw me in and make me wish to comment over there. And then I think, well duh, most of the people whose comments I enjoyed are here now.
But it is interesting to see how others are viewing it and experiencing it.

churchmouse

Exactly!
It will be interesting to watch what happens over the next several weeks.

Tonawanda

The aspect which bothers me is that Sundance allowed repetitive, witless, nasty remarks to infect the site all day long. Truly wacky newcomers would appear to make vicious remarks without any semblance of reasoning. Wolf’s point about possible extraneous influence is well taken, but Sundance himself was unjustifiably nasty to posters.
For whatever reason (and we do not know what reason or reasons) the site devolved into a nasty, unappealing mess, a great and we hope a not irreversible lost of a valuable source.

Sylvia Avery

It bugs me, I admit. I want to know why this happened. What was behind it? It is like an itch I can’t scratch. Annoying as all get out.

Alison

Me too, Sylvia. The deterioration of the comment section is deeply puzzling. If that is a ‘first level’ attempt to destroy the site, why didn’t SD turn off all comments as a means of protection (preferable to banning decent posters and letting the losers run amok).
If he’s being threatened in some way, is there no one he could alert? Are we watching another insidious way those who control social media platforms are snuffing voices like SD’s?

Tonawanda

There might very well be an element of coercion involved. He was made an offer he could not refuse.
And it does NOT need to involve anything about Sundance himself, as a person, but could relate to an outside matter like the well being of family member.

Sylvia Avery

Why indeed? I’d really like to know the answer.

churchmouse

The following is not from the President but will get one thinking. A chart with proof is in the first reply to the tweet:

churchmouse

Another gem from The Trump Train:

churchmouse

The President has retweeted both these tweets from The Trump Train along with a few more, including this one:

Sylvia Avery

PDJT has really turned up the heat on his tweets recently. It is interesting to try to balance this with his interview about not declassifying the DOJ stuff. I don’t get it.
But it sure feels like something’s coming.

churchmouse

Hmm, the President retweeted Hillary’s overlooked gaffe from October. This is a really good version of it, by the way:

churchmouse

And another presidential retweet about Hillary’s gaffe. They are back to back on his Twitter feed:
https://twitter.com/dbongino/status/1057074872118140930

churchmouse

You’re way ahead of the curve, wolf, in your observations.
Seems as if this is something only a Democrat could do.
Can you imagine if a Republican had said that? We’d be hearing about it into next year.

churchmouse

Thank you, Dr Gorka:

churchmouse

More Mueller. Unaware he was supposed to protect against terrorism as FBI director:

churchmouse

Going back to Pompeo (see above), the Senate advanced a resolution to end the war in Yemen. Great!
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/the-senate-advances-s-j-res-54-with-a-63-37-vote/
‘The Senate voted today by a wide margin of 63-37 to bring S.J.Res. 54 to the floor for debate:
‘The Senate on Wednesday advanced a resolution seeking to end U.S. military support for Saudi Arabia’s war in Yemen, delivering a sharp rebuke of the Saudi crown prince and President Trump’s decision to defend him amid the fallout over journalist Jamal Khashoggi’s killing.
‘The 63-to-37 vote means the resolution can be considered by the full Senate, but it does not officially launch debate on the matter. That will happen next week, provided the Senate passes a second procedural vote — which seems likely, senators said, unless the Trump administration takes definitive steps to hold Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman accountable for Khashoggi’s murder.
‘Today’s vote represents a huge turnaround in the Senate since the same resolution was killed by a 55-44 vote eight months ago. The large number of votes in favor shows how much opinion has changed on both the war on Yemen and the relationship with Saudi Arabia in less than a year. There is no question that the Khashoggi murder and the Trump administration’s ham-fisted Saudi First handling of things contributed significantly to the result, but there is also a growing awareness of and opposition to U.S. support for the war on Yemen …’
The Senate was not impressed with either Pompeo or Mattis. Nor were they impressed by the administration’s refusal to send Gina Haspel (CIA) to give an assessment of the Saudi-Khashoggi situation (link to Laura Rozen’s report in the article):
‘ … Laura Rozen reports:
‘”But the Donald Trump administration’s refusal to send CIA Director Gina Haspel to brief senators on the intelligence community’s assessment of the role of Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman in the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi, coupled with Pompeo’s urging of business as usual with the Saudis in a poorly received Wall Street Journal op-ed overnight, appeared to backfire. Several senators emerged from the briefing saying they planned to vote for legislation that would curtail US involvement in the war.”‘

NebraskaFilly

Sorry but that’s BS. Senator Kennedy said this last night – she did not come because her staff was concerned about leaks.

NebraskaFilly

And, IMO, SA is quite rightfully fighting against Iran’s takeover of Yemen – a HUGE threat to SA sovereignty. I support them every step of the way and have no problem with our military assisting.

NebraskaFilly

There also appears to be an EXTREME desire to separate PDJT from MBS. I have to wonder why? Could the new intelligence center be a part of that? Hmmm…..inquiring minds want to know…..

churchmouse

More from Cripto — the President’s full plate (true):
cripto says:
November 29, 2018 at 4:28 am
What is facing the President of the US?
Domestically, the Wall funding, the budget, Immigration Reform, the threats on the southern border. What he is not facing is the Mueller investigation that has exonerated him so far. No there there.
Internationally, NK doing what it has done since Grandpa’s day, hide the nukes, give lip-service to denuking, get China and Russia to support you to get the sanctions lifted. Too bad the UN has just published a report on the violations of sanctions ship to ship transfers. Quite a list.. Perhaps no more cheese for Fatty Kim, especially as a Frenchman has been caught and arrested in the Macron government for being a spy for NK.
And Chairman Xi, well he has got the message. He is courting Spain, Argentina, and Panama to make deals like he never has done before (all luxury goods BTW), especially since his spanking at ASEAN/APEC. And at the same time arming the SCS islands and saying that any condemnation for incarcerating a million Uyghurs in Xinjiang will be condemned. Game on.
Putin is acting like a total numpty, arguing the US and Ukraine were behind the recent incident in Kersh (I saw the broadcast on Russian TV) which everyone is laughing at. He has escalated tensions in the region (with troops and armaments), but it has been going on for five years. He wants Crimea and Eastern Ukraine to be under Russian control to fulfill his Oligarchs demands, keep himself in power, and build his pipelines.
Then there is Venezuela and its tragedy, the Yemen war supported by Iran, Iran’s continued support at the expense of its own people for destabilizing that strategic country.
So I think the President has a full plate. Not one with what his doubters or detractors would want to sup from.
So spare me the tinfoil hat nonsense, or begone.

Deplorable Patriot

And that’s just the surface.
No mention of the Federal Reserve, rising interest rates, or the stock market.
Just sayin’. Watching this unfold so slowly is worse than waiting for the Second Coming.

churchmouse

I fully agree!

NebraskaFilly

I have to disagree with your thesis on Russia and Ukraine. The US installed a puppet as President in Ukraine (oh, thank you, Victoria Nuland), over the Ukrainian people’s objections, might I add! The Clowns were deeply embedded in that effort. And I would not be the least bit surprised if the Clowns were involved in this latest incident.

NebraskaFilly

Ooops…..I guess that was cripto’s theory, not yours. In either case, IMO, he/she is wrong.

Sylvia Avery

Just watched a segment or two on serious health issues at the border. Horrible lice infestations, chicken pox, HIV, drug resistant TB, and everyone is coughing and hacking and spitting as they have respiratory infections. And then there is the shortage of toilets, the toilets backing up into the showers, people cooking in unsanitary conditions (think backed up plumbing) and it is one gigantic mess.

NebraskaFilly

And it is all their own fault! Nope, no sympathy here. Go back to your own country.

Sylvia Avery

Right there with you. Don’t want any nasty bugs or diseases coming this way, either.

Gudthots

Was this segment using a pro-immigration tone, as in, we need to take these people in and help them? Or would this be helpful to convince more of these invaders to fold their tents and head south?

Sylvia Avery

LOL, I couldn’t even tell you now. If it was dripping with sympathy for the poor invaders that just rolled right off of me. I’m completely impervious.
What I got out of it was KEEP THESE SICK AND DISEASED PEOPLE AWAY FROM HERE, but that may have not been what was intended.

Elizabeth Carter

Sylvia, Just think, these are the people who want jobs cleaning our homes, manicuring our yards, working in our hospitals and taking care of our children.
I would think their camp would be one of the best kept places in all of Tia Juana since they have nothing else to do. They should take excellent care of it out of gratitude and as a world showcase of what wonderful qualities they bring to other people’s countries and include pictures on their resume.

Sylvia Avery

Yeah….Just like you’d think they’d come to the border and beg to be shown mercy and taken in instead of marching in with rocks flying and demanding their “rights.”

singularZoe

They act like barbarian hordes, but that may be an insult to the barbarians. Then they complain about the food they are given.

Sylvia Avery

Ainsley Earhart from FOX and Friends has an interview airing tomorrow with Melania to look at the Christmas decorations. That should be fun to watch, if I can remember.

Sylvia Avery

Ha, ha. Murphy Brown did so poorly they have cancelled it already. Super lefty politics. Gag.

NebraskaFilly

Did you read the statement where they claimed it was always only supposed to be 13 episodes, and they will be on next year? CYA, bigly.

Sylvia Avery

*Snort*
If their oh so sad taco truck owners vs. the Big Bad ICE episode (while we have barbarians at the gates trying to get in) didn’t do it in, I don’t know what would.

Deplorable Patriot

NEW Q POSTS this am
Q 2503
!!mG7VJxZNCI
29 Nov 2018 – 5:49:55 AM
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6X-382-NTP0038-3u2
We know.
Q
Q 2504
!!mG7VJxZNCI
29 Nov 2018 – 6:01:45 AM
A picture is worth many sentences.
Has POTUS ever made a statement that hasn’t been proven to be correct (future)?
Think timing.
Think Senate lock.
Think SC lock.
Locked & (who is) Loaded.
Q
2502 has a cell phone pic of what looks like maybe an elevator lobby with a hallway into another lobby. Gaudy holiday decorations involved.
https://qmap.pub/?pg=1

Tonawanda

Just as there are two up and down reflections in the picture, I wonder if the word “sentences” has more than one meaning. Is the picture suggestive of criminality?

Emeraldstar

“Is the picture suggestive of criminality?”
The picture? – No, not to me, yet.
Q’s words? – Yes, definitely.
I think it was a message (the picture) that only the criminals would understand.
Believing THAT … is enough for ME!
I feel like saying MAGA!!!

Deplorable Patriot

I agree a message to the other side. And, yeah, I think it is an elevator lobby in a high rise. It’s been renovated recently, too. Wonder whose offices they are. Some law firm? Think tank?

Emeraldstar

I’m still checking the Anons over at 8-chan.
Nothing definitive yet (I’m only 1/3 through the posts), but some think it’s the Trump Tower.
Rockefeller was also mentioned, but I couldn’t tie it to an “address”-meaning.
Goin’ back in now!

Deplorable Patriot

General consensus at VOAT is that the picture worth a lot of sentences is the graphic of all the people in jail POTUS retweeted yesterday. Goats have noticed Brennan is missing.
Still no lobby ID, but that’s definitely what that is, and one person pointed out that the craftsmanship on the floor was not top notch, so that rules out Trump Tower and anything owned by the Rockefellers. They wouldn’t pay for such sloppiness. Maybe where someone lives. It’s definitely a message, though.
There is consensus that there was indeed an assassination attempt last night as well. The safe zone is transparent aluminum, apparently. It was mentioned more than once.
The code numbers someone over there claims are part of coding for insurance files. Also, they were somehow connected to “Give me liberty or give me death.” Still not sure how all that works.
As for locked and loaded: the Senate. Now that the last race is done, the numbers are there. My guess is 53-47 includes a couple defectors. Also Supreme Court, which adds to the Roberts mystery. Q tells us we have 5 and the Obamacare ruling is clouding that for a lot of patriots.
Locked and Loaded are in caps leading some to believe the person who is locked and loaded is Loretta Lynch. That is a definite possibility as she was known to be talking and would have had a lot of dirt to share.
Gotta be careful who you double cross in life.
If more comes up, I’ll pass it on.

Aubergine

Well, this person over at Voat found the photo I think:
https://www.hyatt.com/en-US/hotel/china/hyatt-regency-chongqing/chong
Who lives here? Q has mentioned the Chongqing Province before:
Q !xowAT4Z3VQ ID: bbd970 No.978771 📁
Apr 10 2018 00:15:56 (EST)
Clarify.
Chongqing.
Tuesday.
Demand.
Xi.
Confirm tariff reduction.
Tuesday (China).
Cars.
Article provides foundation.
Major import.
Ford.
US.
Start.
Q
Some are speculating this has to do with ChiFi-DiFi. I don’t know, maybe. This could be her hotel of choice in China. I tend not to agree with this supposition.
Some think this photo may be stating that “they know” who was responsible for the incident at the tree lighting ceremony. There may have been an assassination attempt, and they “know” who did it. Was it China-directed? I tend to agree with this hypothesis as the most likely.
My personal feeling is the photo-post, and the next post are unrelated. The post about the picture worth many sentences is about the re-tweet of the people behind bars. Loretta Lynch (Locked and Loaded) is singing like a canary, IMHO.

NYGuy54

It is. Looks exactly like the entranceway to the residence.

Emeraldstar

Wow – thanks!
You’re a NY guy; have you been there? (I assume it isn’t on the bottom floor.)

NYGuy54

bottom floor

Emeraldstar

Okie-doke!
My assumption bad.
Your intel good.
You got here JUST in time …
You now have about a hundred “free post” rights. No one is allowed to complain until those hundred have been used.
You should be good for at LEAST a couple days. Ha!
Cheers!

Sylvia Avery

Thanks. I’ve been obsessively checking in. There is just such an air of something coming I’ve been anxiously looking for new drops.

Deplorable Patriot

I do believe we are in a countdown situation. Roadblocks had to be removed and people put in place before the ball really got rolling. After the new Congress is seated, everything changes.

Mary Morse

Something occurred to me re: “Trust Sessions.”, “Trust Wray”.
According to DoD PSYOP docs the “product” should consider all target audiences. Since Q often directs the message to an adversarial audience, who’s to say that this message wasn’t directed at that audience also. It’s been assumed that this message was intended for Patriots.

Mary Morse

It messes with the opposition’s heads. It leads them to believe that their plants are safe and undetected, if they are plants.

churchmouse

Democrats — the party of death:
https://twitter.com/TXbonniejean/status/1067932220235661313

Really?

churchmouse

Doesn’t the First Lady look stunning? A perfect dress for Argentina, with the white and light blue in their flag:

Sylvia Avery

Her dress is pretty. It looks a lot like one she wore in France at the Bastille Day celebration. I’ll have to look for more pictures.

churchmouse

Michael Delauzon (the guy who tweeted this one) is bound to have more later.

GA/FL

It is the same dress – which has a French Limoges-like pattern and a French Cordon Bleu sash.

Sylvia Avery

Ah ha! I thought I recognized it!

NebraskaFilly

Makes me think of spring – very pretty.

GA/FL

That was a photo of the France trip – it’s freezing cold in DC – Mrs. Trump was wearing a wool coat and dark sheath skirt to board the plane.

Sylvia Avery

Okay, that makes sense. When I saw the bare arms and sunshine I assumed they had arrived in South America, but now that I think about it they hadn’t even left yet.

churchmouse

She would have changed to disembark in Argentina, where it’s late Spring right now.

GA/FL

FLOTUS was wearing a dark top and white skirt when they arrived in Argentina. Not the Limoges dress.

churchmouse

Yes, many thanks. Sincere apologies.
I acknowledged the error on today’s (November 30’s) thread and posted the correct photo.

Deplorable Patriot

Remember: things tend to happen when POTUS is out of the country. This could be a wild weekend.

churchmouse

Indeed.

churchmouse

Manafort’s passport stamps further disprove fake Guardian story of earlier this week:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/28/feds-control-manafort-passports-would-bolster-deni/
‘Paul Manafort’s passports don’t show he entered London in all the years claimed by Guardian newspaper when it said he met secretly with WikiLeaks Julian Assange.’

Deplorable Patriot

Why is Manafort getting the 4am CIA talking points treatment? On easily disproved information. I guess we’ll have to wait to find out.

churchmouse

Conservatives advised to stay on Twitter:
https://amgreatness.com/2018/11/26/conservatives-dont-quit-twitter/
‘ … the reality is that Twitter is ground zero in our ongoing political war. Having utterly failed to infiltrate the country’s one-sided media behemoth, or hold news organizations responsible in any way for their egregious political bias and dishonesty, the Right has no choice but to fight back on Twitter. And for now, there is no other serious alternative or legitimate replacement in the offing.
‘It is the only public forum where you can instantly call out a journalist for lousy news coverage or condemn a politician for bad behavior. In just the past week, Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) had to walk back his tweet threatening to use nuclear weapons against disobedient gun owners, and Sen. Brian Schatz (D-Hawaii) had to delete a tweet that suggested the use of tear gas at the southern border violated international laws on chemical weapons. Without Twitter, those ridiculous comments would have gone unanswered …’

Greg Cox

I’ve heard that there are some tricks you can implement, after you have been shadow banned, that will get you going again. Anyone here know how, or have any links?

churchmouse

There was something on Reddit about it a while back. Remove * before copying and pasting link:
*

A guide to getting Un-Shadowbanned (Sticky maybe?)
by in ShadowBan

churchmouse

Yet more strands to the Honduran mother’s story, the latest being that she has nine children:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/11/maria-meza-tear-gas-caravan-migrant-mom-has-nine-children-one-living-in-louisiana-the-past-two-years/
Ultimately (the article has a lot more):
‘Reports on Meza’s story are contradictory and incomplete, with sympathetic media more interested in pushing her case for entry into the United States than ascertaining the facts.
‘Meza has said in several interviews she is seeking work in the U.S. to help her children.
‘In addition to economics, Meza told ABC News she left Honduras because a gang recruited her 16-year-old son and she was afraid her 14-year-old son would be next be targeted by the gang.
‘On the contrary, Meza told Buzzfeed reporter Adolfo Flores she left Honduras because one of her daughters was being pressured by a gang to be one of their “girlfriends” Flores did not report Meza mentioning the gang recruiting her sons.’

churchmouse

Roger Stone rightly says, ‘This is an inquisition’:
https://twitter.com/ChristusPatriot/status/1067660543794720768

Gudthots

Just to be clear about my “Like” of this post. Sometimes I don’t find material likeable, as in, something I like happening in my beloved nation, but I want to show my appreciation to someone bringing quality information into the comments here at TQT. My like of the above video post is one such example.

Elizabeth Carter

I agree.

churchmouse

Thank you.
I use ‘like’ in the same way.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

You’re using it as if it were an “agree with the commenter” button…which IMHO it should have been.

Sylvia Avery

Saw an interview on Fox & Friends with Rodney Scott of the Border Patrol. Interesting. He says another 1200 migrants have arrived and conditions are worse now than they were on Sunday. It is raining, conditions are awful, health and hygiene is poor. They are scared they will have a hepatitis outbreak. Tiajuana is overwhelmed.
The 600 criminals they keep referencing are known primarily because they have been in the US and deported which is how we know about their criminal histories. He said it is very difficult if not impossible to get criminal backgrounds on people from foreign countries.
(What this says to me is the number of criminals is undoubtedly much higher than 600.)

churchmouse

Candace Owens and other black conservatives meet with senators re prison reform, The First Step Act:
https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/28/african-american-conservatives-first-step-act/
‘The “First Step Act,” which passed easily in the House of Representatives last summer, would roll back some of the initiatives of the 1994 Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act —also known as the “Clinton Crime Bill.” Most importantly for its supporters, the bill intends to combat recidivism, which is the rate at which released prisoners return to criminal behavior …
‘The group of mostly black conservatives met with Republican Sens. Steve Daines of Montana, Mike Lee of Utah, Rand Paul of Kentucky, Tim Scott of South Carolina and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina. They also found their way into the offices of a few other senators, not all of whom were available to meet with them.’

churchmouse

This article explains all about what Jerome Corsi said and what Roger Stone said about the Wikileaks emails in 2016. Contradictions abound. It’s so complicated, I’m not even going to excerpt it:
https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/28/jerome-corsi-roger-stone/

churchmouse

Jerome Corsi hires Larry Klayman to file a criminal complaint with Matt Whitaker against the Mueller team — and the DoJ!
https://twitter.com/jerome_corsi/status/1067871073407049728
Klayman will be right in there. He’s brilliant.

churchmouse

Corsi on WikiLeaks and how he might die in prison. Not if Klayman keeps the ball rolling:
https://nypost.com/2018/11/29/roger-stone-associate-jerome-corsi-i-might-die-in-jail-for-helping-trump/
‘Conspiracy theorist Jerome Corsi, who is an associate of Roger Stone, said on Wednesday that he “might die in jail” and admitted he wanted to get stolen Clinton emails to the Trump campaign.’
I do not know that he is an associate of Roger Stone’s, but, whatever.
Anyway:
‘Corsi, during an interview with MSNBC, said he plans to reject a plea agreement with the special counsel’s office, which is is probing whether he was an intermediary between Stone and Wikileaks founder Julian Assange.
‘“Even if Julian Assange had stolen material that was classified, as a journalist I can see him, I can get that material and I can publish it — I’m not committing a crime,” Corsi told the network.
‘“So I was happy to do it and I was happy that it would benefit Donald Trump.”
‘Corsi however, fell short of admitting that he was the intermediary between Assange and the Trump campaign.’

Sylvia Avery

Team Mueller may have picked on two of the wrong guys. Older, perhaps more street smart, definitely better connected than the Carter Pages and George Papad’s of the world. And I’m sure they don’t want to end up in solitary like poor Manafort.

Emeraldstar

I just found this autist-post (a regular Anon) on 8-chan, and thought it a good combo of analysis and speculation:
[I’ve added paragraph breaks for readability, and begin / end quotes]
“POTUS wouldn’t just wait for no reason, given that justice undelivered is justice denied.
Q stated that 2018 is not glorious until SHTF for the bad actors.
That narrows the timeframe to this year.
We also know that the House will never be allowed to sit with all the illegal voting that went on.
We also know that the Senate was the target, which implies that the House will fall, yet the Senate will not.
So what would allow for new elections in the House and not the Senate being re-run? Either all the races will be re-run or something does not add up or the House members are dirty for things that can have them removed or it is not this House we’re talking about.
House of Commons? Possibly, DECLAS removes the possibility of Boris Johnson, Amber Rudd, PM May, and pretty much anyone who has been near the Home Office or Foreign Office in the UK for the last four or five years.
The old guard would then not have control of the leadership of the UK unless they managed to install Jeremy Corbyn who is controlled through ties to Iran (weapons and drugs and IRA) and is involved in child trafficking in his consituency of London (many child brothels). The other alternative is to install someone from out of nowhere, like an Obama character but that’s tough in the UK and at short notice (they have known this is coming for a while now though).
So, the countdown is on. Military Trials will start in the New Year, given the EO perhaps.
Once the public knows how bad the Dems acted and some Repubs, we will all unite together as they wake up.
Notice POTUS is dropping big hints to flip the last few flippables?
RATS… RATS DESERT A SINKING SHIP.
D.C. in panic means rats are deserting the sinking ship.
MANY need to try and get deals and flip on higher ups to lower their own damage.
Enjoy the Show.”

Tonawanda

If anybody was not here or did not read W’s post entitled Am I Still A Treeper, I encourage you to do so NOT because of the CTH aspect but because of the complete, realistic and IMO irrefutable explication of what Q is about, and how Q followers look at Q:
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2018/11/10/am-i-still-a-treeper/
I think this puts us on the same page big picture-wise.

GA/FL

From their recent ‘tours’ and TV appearances it is obvious that the old worn out Clintons and Obama just don’t have it any more. They are looking old and and all their lies and PC crap have been exposed.

daughnworks247

It’s the arrogance, smugness, superiority, the attitude that they will never be called to account…. which makes us crazy. I admit, I’m worried. The societal ramifications of law/order/decency, I fear, will be wide ranging.
How can parents teach their children to be honorable, ethical, follow rules of society, when a double standard of justice exists?
I recall my 11 yr old step-son standing on the landing of the back stairs. I had just busted him in a lie and was in the process of dressing him down when he said, “The President lied, why is it so important to you?”
That was 1998 and Bill Clinton.

Gudthots

As a good parent, and I am fully confident you are a good parent, I’m sure you helped correct his impression of the way things work. 🙂

daughnworks247

I could have sold tickets!

Elizabeth Carter

This was on CTH yesterday and the comments are interesting. I watched the video yesterday and noticed that Pompeo said several times that he was doing this press conference instead of Gina Haspel because he was asked to do it. Odd.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/11/28/secretary-of-state-mike-pompeo-briefs-media-following-senate-briefing/
I was concerned about President Trump going to the G20 today. Then I remembered that he seems to be out of the country when big things are happening. He is safest on AF1 and can simply leave if he is threatened on the ground as he did in Paris at the Armistice 100 year event. He can and has changed course before to avoid being shot down. I am certain there are lots of safe places they can take him if needed. Melania is with him.
The Assassins are getting desperate now. The opposition is trying to involve us in a war with Russia. I believe that the last 2 Q posts are to assure us that he is okay. I believe he is going to release the declassified documents now.
It is hard to tell who can be trusted in his cabinet. I just take a wait and see attitude. It goes without saying that President Trump has all sorts of information that we don’t know about and he has been planning this for 30 years.
Don’t worry. He’s got this.

Gudthots

Our Lion is POTUS because of the King of All the Earth was pleased to raise him up for such a time as this. There is no greater protection for any of God’s children but to be in His perfect will, walking uprightly.

Emeraldstar

Here’s a bit of sauce on that GM CEO, which wasn’t included in today’s (or was it yesterday’s) thread. Like my prior post, it’s from the Anons at 8-chan, from just before 6am this morning:
[the Anon’s words]
“GM CEO Mary Barra, who wants to destroy the economies of Ohio and Michigan just in time for 2020, was a ‘Special Guest’ Of Michelle Obama at Barack Obama’s 2014 State Of The Union address where he singled her out for special praise and she sat next to Valerie Jarrett.”
[the “sauce” {= the sources}]
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2014/01/28/obama-barra-gm-general-motors/4956305/

NYGuy54

deep state op but coming from GM. These ppl don’t care about us.

singularZoe

Emerald, thank you for that very interesting info.

phoenixRising

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-29/michael-cohen-plead-guilty-lying-congress-mueller-probe
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-29/trump-michael-cohen-lying

daughnworks247

Thank you, Emerald Star, this is the sauce we’ve been looking for.

Emeraldstar

No problem at all, Daughn! Glad to help us ALL!
We all feel the vibe: there isn’t much time left. Maybe the internet WILL go dark for 10 days. Maybe the financial system will suddenly become unavailable. Maybe civil unrest – who the heck knows?
IMO, we’ve all got to do as much as we’re able, NOW, to obtain and save the info and intel that’s still available to us. You’re checking Voat (thanks so much for the update earlier on the current thinking over there!), and I’m doing 8-chan.
Right now, I’m counting my blessings, info-wise:
VSGPDJT, via tweets (Thank you, Mr. President!);
Q themselves, via posts (Thank you, Q team!),
the 8-chans, via posts (Thank you, Autists!),
THIS site, via WP (Thank you, Wolf! and fellow Posters!); and
Patriots Soapbox, via YT live-stream (Thank you, Pamphlet & Radix and Crew!).
I’m also saving posts to my HD, from here and elsewhere. Haven’t bought a thumb-drive / memory-stick yet, but it’s on the list, if circumstances allow. In the meantime, I’ve got paper to PRINT it out – HARD COPY, baby!
Right now, I have “free” time until the Holidays, so I’m using it as best I judge to be valuable for our Republic. Many don’t have the time to spend on forums like this, checking all the news / opinion, and NOT earning $$$! Luckily, for a brief time I DO have the time (and motivation!).
So, I do what I’m ABLE, and WILLING, to do.
It seems that the Sh!!show begins next week … and it will get more and more potent / dire, as Dec progresses. D5.
Gotta be – or GET – prepared … NOW!
Tremendous job in your home state, btw! Your updates were great – I was paying special attention to the results, and hearing them from an on-the-ground participant (you work 24/7, yes? lol) was a treat.

phoenixRising

https://twitter.com/MichaelDelauzon/status/1068174395477114880
Indictments are coming as POTUS leaves for Argentina

Deplorable Patriot

Page no longer exists for me. Anyone else?

holley100

Same for me.

NebraskaFilly

Yep, same here.

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NYGuy54

I always thought Barnes would have been an excellent attorney for the Pres. Thank you.

realsauce
realsauce

“A picture is worth many sentances….”comment image
hmmm…… thoughts? Where?

realsauce

Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: ba2ad5 No.4070722
Nov 29 2018 06:01:45 (EST)
A picture is worth many sentences.
Has POTUS ever made a statement that hasn’t been proven to be correct (future)?
Think timing.
Think Senate lock.
Think SC lock.
Locked & (who is) Loaded.
Q

Emeraldstar

Already on it – check posts from Deplorable Patriot (7:24am), and DaughnWorks24/7, and me and others, from then on, toward the bottom of the first page of this thread!
There’s a new thread, just for this purpose, everyone! Time to tack …

singularZoe

Wolfmoon, is there any way you could put a “latest post” at the top of the page? Sometimes I just want to know and be able to get to it easily. Also, on Last Refuge, we can get an email to subscribe to new posts, but you don’t seem to have that here. Thank you in advance.

Nor'easter

singularZoe:
Disclaimer: I am so not-a-tech-guy that I’m hoping to point you in the right direction without confusing you. I do not know how to set this up correctly, so its default settings from me!
On word press, as I browse this site, I have a “Header Bar” (?) At the Top of the page.
Clicking on the icons brings up menus, for example, clicking on profile Will give a menu that offers
Notifications. Clicking on notifications gives you notifications settings, and in Notification settings, there is a clickable link for Reader subscriptions. Clicking on this provides a hyperlink to manage the WordPress reader settings, and you can also get there by clicking on the reader icon.
I believe you will be able to subscribe to new posts.
IIRC, you cannot use a mouse (?), but I’m sure someone with more tech savvy than I have can help you with this, if need be.
Hope this helps.

singularZoe

I do follow it, but when I signed up for Last Refuge, I didn’t have to do that, just checked it when I posted. I’ll try to find how to do that. Not sure I can.

phoenixRising

THREAD

Gudthots

Looks like a lot of furious negotiations going on behind the scenes.

daughnworks247

Bizarre news on Cohen pleading guilty for lying to Congress.
We can bet the articles and spin are being written currently.
Thus far, we have Cohen working on a potential hotel build in Moscow during the fall of 2015 until Jan’16, when the deal was tabled, according to Cohen, before the Iowa Caucus.
Looks like Cohen was questioned in Senate Intel Comm, where he was asked something along line of “When was the last time you talked/had discussions about the Moscow project?”.
Cohen must have answered January of ’16.
Then submitted a two page draft of summary of project to the Senate Intel Comm, whereby the timing conflicts.
Apparently there is a convo/email with Felix Sadr (spelling?) which happened in June of 2016. It could have been a convo as innocuous as “Thanks for your help, sorry we’re not paying you as per terms of deal…. if I’m ever in Moscow, we can have dinner. Bye-bye”
Then today…..
Senator Warner, minority on Senate Intel Comm, admitted he referred Cohen to Special Counsel for the discrepancy in timing, “Lying to the Senate Intel Comm”. Warner also confirmed he has referred several people to the Mueller team — but won’t name names.
Warner….
Who we KNOW lied about his outreach to Waldman, the USA attorney for Deripaska. Warner admitted he lied and covered up is many texts and phone calls to Waldman nd revealed his actions in September – when Rubio defended Warner. Remember?
Then, we have Wolfe, who was head of Security for Senate Intel Comm, charged with lying to FBI, instead of a full blown investigation, when we know Wolfe was sleeping with Ali Watkins of the NYTimes — and probably leaked the FISA docs, all 82 pages, March 17th.
Plus, we KNOW Felix Sater is an FBI informant, a Russian Jew, a la Brighton Beach. AND we remember McCabe and Ohr came out of the Southern District of NY, where they were cozy with the Russians. Strange that Ohr was placed in charge of organized crime when he was brought to DC. McCabe/Ohr/Mueller know all these Russian players and they all grew up (professionally) together.
The Moscow Hotel deal is not news. Here’s a clip from Sept of 2017, with Steven Harper harping about it on MSNBC.
https://billmoyers.com/story/msnbc-steven-harper-talks-moscow-tower-deal-will-get-donald-elected/

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Deplorable Patriot

Read through some reports this morning and the amount of crowing for what was charged made zero sense. I mean none. It was in no way a gotcha moment.

phoenixRising

Of course it’s not a gotcha moment… from the viewpoint of sensible, rational people.
But that’s not who is spinning it…

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phoenixRising

just to add …
iirc POTUS terminated Cohen before he was inaugurated…

GA/FL
SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Second page and it isn’t even noon!!!

NYGuy54

it’s because of me…I post alot…just skim by me

Emeraldstar

“just skim by me”
No can do.
Besides, your AVERAGE posting, over the duration of this site, is WOEFULLY small.
hehehe!

NYGuy54

yeah I like shorter posts…gives our fine analysts more room to express themselves.

NYGuy54

Don’t get cocky…I dont read your stuff anyways …

NYGuy54

Seriously though…you’re a good person wolf…I wasn’t sure at first but you wore me down. I know you care deeply. I may joke but that is my real sentiment. Ask Tona…I’ve told him.

Gudthots

I always liked Wolf’s enthusiasm, but his use of all caps…
But no one beat Black Knight Rides in the use of all caps. No contest.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yes.
I could read his post and hear the voice speaking with the emphasis in all the right places.
I hope he makes it over here someday.

Nor'easter

Did it again- Hah!

para59r

Straight from their mouth. European Parliament makes no bones about criminalizing all decent concerning immigration. Short, unequivocal and retched. Take a look.
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/1068116062942576640

phoenixRising

right para, and the Dims in America would like to put us in the same position… not to mention at health risk

Nor'easter

Hate speech versus free-speech.
Once caveats are thrown in, free speech ceases to exist.
Creation of protected classes under the guise of anti-discrimination leads directly to division and discrimination.
Much of Europe has fallen. It’s already too late for most of them.

phoenixRising

Gudthots

Ok, just looked over his timeline. This is a good one. (all good, just picked this one)

Nor'easter

Chuck Schumer would sell anybody down the river for his own benefit, including his own daughter.
Let’s see how this plays out.

phoenixRising

The fella at the old watering hole wrote about Warner and his crimes. Seems he is doing everything possible to see that he (Warner) stays out of jail.

Deplorable Patriot

Another Hmmm….. moment.

Deplorable Patriot

I think you’re right. I got the impression goading Russia into war was involved with the Crimea thing. Maybe it was a FF? Is it one of the hotspots Q talked about?
Crimea has been a bone of contention and place to fight over for a long time. Is there an oil or natural gas pipeline involved? Given it’s location…..

Emeraldstar

IIRC, from reading Q and 8-chans, Pappy Butch gave his word, while P (in the late 80’s / early 90’s), that Nato wouldn’t encroach further toward the borders of R.
Then, he enabled that very expansion. High-ranking cabalist, “a thousand points of [Luciferian] light”, Big (traitor) Pappy!
Putin saw the treachery. I’m HAPPY he took Crimea (90% Russian-speaking, yes? Voted for alliance with R, yes?), and and HAPPY he is confronting the Clown co-opting of Ukraine against his country. Soros was there – the “Orange” revolution, right?
As an aside, scr** YOU, ideologue A2 / Cripto, for your smug mis-assessment of int’l politics. It is WE, (not really “us”, though, but the DS part of the USA), who created this very real threat to R!
Big Bogey-man Russia. One of the only countries in the world WITHOUT Redshield central-bank control.
Muh, enemy.
Pfft.
But, of course, maybe I just don’t “get it” …

phoenixRising

Ohh you GET IT Emeraldstar,
Could not agree more with your comment.

Emeraldstar

Thanks, Phoenix!
Ya know, I’m beginning to believe that A2 and Cripto actually ARE the same person – and have always been State-owned!
How in the heck does / did he post from Commie Ch***, with the prohibited perspectives he used, and have his posts make it all the way HERE. Sorta stretches the envelope of credibility, yes?
So, when A2 got banned (IP address maybe), he created another.
I saw that last posted-here post of “his”, in re negativity … but honestly, how in the HECK are we getting info from C-town? As Q has said, “Reconcile.”
And, right now, I cannot. Is A2 “special”? Then I would ask “HOW “special” is he?” Maybe TOO special!
R isn’t our number-one problem. When one addresses first things FIRST, then there isn’t any “second”. Because, once one DOES take care of the number-one problem … guess what? The pecking order changes, and a NEW “number-one” problem ascends to the primacy spot.
Somehow, I like the slogan “Let Russia be Russia”. If the D’s weren’t colluding with them, then just MAYBE, we could co-exist. The DS has to go, though, before this can even be seriously considered.
Our DS is the DIRTIEST player on the world scene. OK – I’ve said it! We’ve got to take care of our OWN house … before we sanctimoniously start throwing stones at OTHER nations.
I think this will HELP the MAGA goal.

Spab

“Then, he enabled that very expansion. High-ranking cabalist, “a thousand points of [Luciferian] light”, Big (traitor) Pappy!”
I expect ‘Pappy’ doesn’t have longer before he can verify all of his assumptions.

Deplorable Patriot

Another data point for the matrix.
Ryan casts doubt on ‘bizarre’ California election results
By Scott Wong – 11/29/18 10:34 AM EST
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/418880-ryan-casts-doubt-on-bizarre-california-election-results
Weeks after House Republicans lost their majority, Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) on Thursday cast serious doubts about the “bizarre” election system in California, where it appears that seven GOP-held seats will flip to Democratic control.
The California election system “just defies logic to me,” Ryan said during a Washington Post Live event.
“We were only down 26 seats the night of the election and three weeks later, we lost basically every California race. This election system they have — I can’t begin to understand what ‘ballot harvesting’ is.”

Deplorable Patriot

“In Wisconsin, we knew the next day. Scott Walker, my friend, I was sad to see him lose, but we accepted the results on Wednesday” after the election, Ryan said. In California, “their system is bizarre; I still don’t completely understand it. There are a lot of races there we should have won.”
When pressed about his California comments, Ryan said it seemed “bizarre” and “strange” that Democrats would win all seven competitive House races in California. Democrats ousted GOP Reps. Mimi Walters, Dana Rohrabacher, Jeff Denham and Steve Knight, and won seats held by retiring GOP Reps. Ed Royce and Darrell Issa. GOP Rep. David Valadao is trailing Democrat TJ Cox, but the race is too close to call.
“The way the absentee-ballot program used to work, and the way it works now, it seems pretty loosey goose,” Ryan said. “When you have candidates who win the absentee ballot vote and then lose three weeks later because of provisionals, that’s really bizarre. I just think that’s a very very strange outcome.”

Emeraldstar

Staging, for the devastating Election Report due on Dec 21 / 22 ( / 23? I still haven’t found any definitive chronology on this! Dec 21 is a Friday.)
I think we’ll all have a “Holly, Jolly Christmas!”
Ryan is playing his role …

Deplorable Patriot

That’s what I figured.

Sylvia Avery

This election system they have — I can’t begin to understand what ‘ballot harvesting’ is.”
I think I understand. I could explain it to you, little Paulie.

Deplorable Patriot

Well…Q did tell us that Ryan was freed some time ago. He’s got nothing to lose now.

Emeraldstar

I think it was Graham that was freed … but Ryan was captured, and forced to bow out.
Which means Ryan still has a LOT to lose, if his “deal” falls apart by his not complying with its terms.

Deplorable Patriot

1434
Q !CbboFOtcZs No.98 📁
May 22 2018 11:52:25 (EST)
Re_read.
Slowly & carefully.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/31/turley-sessions-using-utah-federal-prosecutor-much-better-trump-2nd-special-counsel/📁
Did you see the Ryan [PR] interview a short time ago?
When you are no longer seeking another term you are ‘FREE’ to make better decisions.
RAPID FIRE.
‘Flood is coming’
Future proves past.
[CNN].
Q

Emeraldstar

OK – I stand corrected!
I didn’t remember that post.
Somehow, though, I still have the impression that Graham is acting a lot “freer” than Ryan … and that Ryan somehow (i.e., purposefully) flubbed on getting more R’s elected to the House.
And, my suspicion is that whatever “dirt” was on Graham was far less severe in nature to whatever was on Ryan. Graham is staying; Ryan is leaving.
I guess it’s just my subjective take, though – so I could be wrong AGAIN! lol
Thanks Deplorable!

Deplorable Patriot

Paul Ryan does not have, for lack of a better term, killer instinct. Not like Lindsey who was forcibly banked. Ryan was offered an out and he took it. Don’t blame him. Lindsey turned back into his old self once the shackles were off. It’s refreshing to see.

Nor'easter

Deflection from Ryan.
Wisconsin needs to be looked at.

phoenixRising

I believe Ryan is up to his eyeballs in Deep State…

Deplorable Patriot

I don’t think it’s deflection. It’s priming the narrative shatter about voter fraud.

phoenixRising

Seems Mitch is doing best to push through despite Flake…

Nor'easter

Tongue-twister!

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phoenixRising

LAT did terrific expose’ on Epstein… some have noticed they didn’t go to Mueller, who was FBI Director at time, for comment. Now comes tecno_fog with a THREAD – is it possible all of Mueller’s activity currently is an attempt to smokescreen his lack of action in the pedo criminality of powerful people?

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NYGuy54

Look s like Stacey Abrams is going to stiff her campaign workers and not pay them
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/exclusive-text-messages-reveal-stacey-abrams-campaign-owes-back-pay-to-staffers/

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singularZoe

@wolfmoon, love love love that idea.

Linda

We should also freeze his funds and take out the cost of our military being at the border.

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[FIRST time I have seen FLOTUS wear purple… ]

CM in TN

We’re comandeering their “revolution” and turning it back on them! Resist the global commies!

phoenixRising

Sounds great to me !

Nor'easter

More like lavender maybe?

GA/FL

Orchid!

Nor'easter

Sold!
Anything but purple!

Deplorable Patriot

Lilac 😉

singularZoe

Lavender and lilac two of my favourite colors, though can’t see them any more.

tomf

On rare occasions color blindness is a blessing.

phoenixRising

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Nor'easter

Big big big

phoenixRising

Why is Sd saying this wrt 400+ – Huber has access to OIG’s staff which is over 400… Sd himself first reported on this when Sessions FIRST appointed Huber…

GA/FL

What is DS?

GA/FL

Duh – of course. :8->

GA/FL

That would be easy if your computer has small print.

singularZoe

GA/FLA. DS is deep state. Took me until this morning to figure it out. I kept thinking democratic socialists, but that didn’t quite seem like it, though they are.

GA/FL

Thanks, Miss Zoe! I just could not figure it out…

Nor'easter

Guide to Qanon abbreviations:
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Nor'easter

Guide to Qanon abbreviations:
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phoenixRising

Well, Sd is denying what he said previously… months ago perhaps, but he said it nonetheless.
Sessions appointed Huber to work with Horowitz, and then
Sessions ALSO made Huber Vice Chair of AGAC (Atty Generals Advisory Committee), a 9 member committee… Nov 13, 2017… a little over a year ago.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ut/pr/attorney-general-jeff-sessions-appoints-utah-us-attorney-john-w-huber-leadership-position
I recall discussion of the staff of this committee and its importance –
there are certainly more than 400 staff amongst the 93 US Attys…
I followed SD’s writings obsessively in 2017… I was the one who gave him John Carlin’s name and rank after he had resigned (through my research of spouses of agents, etc.). I know that SD wrote about Huber’s resources, and he himself proclaimed that he had over 400 available to him. My problem is that I don’t know how to search through the CTH articles, or I would go pull it up.
Additionally, SD in his tweet today denies that Huber is working with Horowitz. This from AJC article:
“… In a letter to congressional leaders released on Thursday, Attorney General Jeff Sessions revealed that the United States attorney for Utah has been investigating whether the Justice Department and the FBI abused its authority in surveilling an adviser to President Donald Trump’s campaign.
In addition to an investigation into the request for a warrant to surveil Carter Page, U.S. Attorney John Huber has been looking into whether the Justice Department ignored allegations of Hillary Clinton’s ties to the sale of U.S. uranium rights to Uranium One, whose parent company is Rosatom, a Russian nuclear energy company. He also could be looking into the investigation of Clinton’s use of a personal email server and the workings of her family’s foundation, according to a story by The Salt Lake Tribune. “

How can Huber investigate the Justice Dept without working with Horowitz, who is the IG.
SD has the right to his opinion, but he can’t ignore facts just to sell his opinion.

phoenixRising

oops forgot link to AJC piece above
https://www.ajc.com/news/national/who-john-huber-the-man-appointed-investigate-gop-concerns-about-fbi-justice-department/EpVp5miuzXzTVh6aufFhOI/
SD appears to be working hard to downplay Huber’s appearance. I don’t expect Huber to say much to the committee unless it is said behind closed doors. And, Huber is only one who is appearing before the committee on 12/5. What I do expect is that Huber has already made a report to the AAG Whitaker, if he is testifying before House Committee. It is the AAG who will act on Huber’s findings.

Nor'easter

PS:
On the right hand side of a CTH Page, there is a search bar, and directly below it is a “choose a topic” search tool (click on link and scroll menu.
But don’t ask me HOW to use them!!!

Nor'easter

Semantics?
Huber is likely OBLIGATED to report DOJ/FBI misconduct to OIG (likely applies to all Government employees to their respective OIGs).
Horowitz, as IG, is obligated to investigate reports of misconduct.
OIG needs some independence to “investigated itself” to have at least the appearance of credibility.
AG and US attorneys prosecute. OIG investigates and REFERS (for prosecution and/or disciplinary charges).
Mmmkay, I guess technically you could say they’re not working together.

phoenixRising

I hear you Nor’easter…

daughnworks247

Best ground report ever!
Big Al stopped by today to tell us his Trump story. Big Al owns the local liquor store and he’s a fun guy, Trump supporter, and a no-nonsense retired Marine.
Big Al donated $10K to the RNC before the Southaven, MS rally and got the VIP treatment at the rally. The VIP treatment came as a surprise.
He was ushered into a room with 6 other people and the President appeared, sat down, and he said, “How the hell are you?” and “Do you have any questions for me, anything you want to say?”
One guy piped up to ask a question to which the President responded, “That’s bullshit, next question.”
Big Al said the President is happy, incredibly normal, curses like a sailor, and a genuine guy. Big Al is not easy to impress, at all, but Big Al was gushing and grinning like a 7yr old who caught Santa Claus on Christmas morning.
The President signed multiple photos, took as many pics as they wanted, answered all kinds of questions and spent about 20 minutes with them.
BTW, Big Al said Cindy Hyde Smith has “bigger balls than I do” (which is a huge compliment from a Marine). Guess we voted for the right lady as Senator in Mississippi.
Big Al is now in LOVE, in a manly way, with our POTUS.

Sylvia Avery

OMG I’d pay ten grand for that experience! Except I suspect all I would be doing is weeping and saying “thank you, thank you, thank you, build that wall, I love Melania, thank you, can you fire everyone at DOJ? thank you, thank you” and the SS would haul me away thinking a mad woman had been let in with the VIPS.

daughnworks247

Sylvia, exactly. I’ve never seen a grown man with that big of a grin.

Plain Jane

LOL. Me too Sylvia. Last time I was struck dumb for intelligible words, was to the Question “Did you do this?” when I was a kid.

Sylvia Avery

I remember that feeling all too well!

Plain Jane

LOL

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NebraskaFilly

Hmmm – that didn’t take long! ROFL
“CNN fired contributor Marc Lamont Hill Thursday following his apparent call for the destruction of the state of Israel and his defense of violence by Palestinians during an appearance at the United Nations.
A CNN spokesperson told Mediaite, “Marc Lamont Hill is no longer under contract with CNN.”
https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2018/11/29/cnn-fires-marc-lamont-hill-after-anti-israel-comments/

Sylvia Avery

Seriously, this does surprise me a little. I didn’t think there was any kind of restraints whatsoever on how low they could go. I figured this would pass by without even a comment from CNN. I am really amazed.
And happy. Marc Lamont Hill is a POS.

NebraskaFilly

Me, too. Hmmm…..wonder who made THAT phone call?

Nor'easter

Well at least he didn’t ruin his chances to become a UN Human Rights Commission member.

singularZoe

@or’easter, lol.

Sylvia Avery

Okay, that’s funny right there!

NebraskaFilly

IKR?

A Fortiori (@AFortiori16)

I’m starting to like the new Brazilian government. It seems Brazil’s incoming Foreign Minister believes that “the climate change issue was invented by “cultural Marxists” to help push a globalist agenda that is anti-growth and anti-Christian.”
https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/brazils-new-top-diplomat-climate-change-marxist-hoax

Sylvia Avery

I love it! We’ve all known this since the 90s, but it is one of those things that you must not ever say. And he did it! Ha! If that’s what it means to be a far right wing politician, I’m all in.

Sylvia Avery

Also, I expect that a lot of you guys who heard about “PRESIDENT TRUMP’S OWN ADVISORS” produced that big climate change report on Friday telling us the earth has a fever or whatever had the same reaction I did–something along the lines of “I bet it is another Obama Admin holdover responsible” instead of what we are supposed to think, “Oh dear! Even PDJT’s team says climate change will kill us all so it must be real!”
Well, here’s the story!
“A former Obama administration official with ties to a liberal advocacy group funded by Democratic megadonors George Soros and Tom Steyer helped prepare the Fourth National Climate Assessment, whose dire predictions have since been attacked as overblown….
“The question remains, whose idea was it to have John Podesta’s climate adviser and Obama political appointee be in charge of the review of the most important chapter, which leans heavily on Tom Steyer research?” Mr. Pielke said in an email…”
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/28/andrew-light-obama-official-helped-prepare-dire-na/

Sylvia Avery

More and better pics of Melania’s tree lighting outfit plus some fashion details. Includes a good photo of her suede boots, too.
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2018/11/29/fashion-notes-melania-trump-ready-for-white-christmas-in-max-mara-coat-leather-gloves/

GA/FL

John Binder is a great fan of our First Lady and her wardrobe! He does a wonderful review of her outfit for each event and outing with great photos.

Deplorable Patriot

I hadn’t seen a pic of the outfit. Wow. I so want to play in her closet, but she’s about ten inches taller than I am.

Sylvia Avery

I know what you mean. That coat is just beautiful. She puts herself together so well. I really admire her choices, the way she uses clothing to communicate.

Deplorable Patriot

Communication is definitely part of it, but her choices are elegantly classic. She has yet to make a choice that was anything but. Some of her gowns (Inauguration, for one) were understated, but the woman knows what endures.
BTW, can you tell I watch old movies for the dialogue and the clothes.

Sylvia Avery

So do I! I love to see the old fashions, the way the homes were furnished, and yes the dialogue!

Sylvia Avery

Comey takes legal action to try to get out of appearing before Congress. I’m sure we all expected this.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/29/politics/comey-house-subpoena/index.html

Linda

Now this is interesting:

Deplorable Patriot

At long last.

daughnworks247

Jim Jordan will be Minority Leader of Oversight Committee, announced on FOX Biz.

Deplorable Patriot

I’ll take that appointment.

phoenixRising

Robert Barnes suggested in a tweet today which included FLOTUS at Liberty University, that she is moving to defend herself against the constant attacks of the media.
Well here is another tweet which affirms Barnes’ message… (Reporters according to Benny at Daily Caller have viciously attacked FLOTUS’ Christmas decorations – keep in mind that most ‘reporters’ are not even 30 years old and probably have difficulty finding their way home, much less have any basis for criticizing decorations!)
https://twitter.com/biker4marriage/status/1068261441747202053

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Sylvia Avery

Short video of PDJT and FLOTUS getting off of AF1 in Buenos Aires. Melania has the most gorgeous brown leather coat slung cape style over her shoulders, an off white pencil skirt with front slit, and a sweater about the same color as the coat. I can’t get a good look at the shoes, but they look like they are brown and off white print.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5Kxn1B12ao&feature=youtu.be

singularZoe

@Sylvia, wow. Thanks.

Sylvia Avery

Daily Mail pics of FLOTUS leaving the US in her purple skirt enroute to Buenos Aires as well as the run down on the designers.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6443845/Melania-Trump-wears-6-000-Ralph-Lauren-coat-flies-Argentina.html

Plain Jane

That skirt sure looks like a leather or brushed for slight sheen sueded leather. I’m drooling. Of courst, I’d look like a pale purple eggplant in that skirt next to Melania.

Sylvia Avery

It IS leather, can you imagine? Wow. Gorgeous!

Plain Jane

Thanks Sylvia. Once again, I drool.