Dear KMAG: 20201011 Open Topic

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The Storm is upon us.
Please remember to Pray for our President.


It’s time to replace
a failed and CORRUPT political establishment
with a new government
controlled by you, the American People.
~ Candidate Donald J. Trump

Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.


On this day and every day –

God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up

Hopefully, every Sunday, you can find something here that will build you up a little . . . give you a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.

“This day is holy to the Lord your God;
do not mourn nor weep.” . . .
“Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet,
and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared;
for this day is holy to our Lord.
Do not sorrow,
for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”

Proverbs 9:10
Reverence for the Lord is the beginning of wisdom,
And the knowledge of the Holy One is understanding

Our culture is wearying. Not only is it non-stop and fast-paced, but it is also so full of contention and controversy that it is maddening, stressful, and frustrating.

God accurately catches the essence of our time when He tells Daniel, “Many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase” (Daniel 12:4). The word picture is of a multitude of people scurrying around like ants, but unlike ants, their scurrying is erratic, futile, and unproductive. The New English Bible creatively renders this, “Many will be at their wits’ end,” suggesting both frustration and a kind of psychosis in the people as they struggle to keep up with and understand what is happening around them.

It is no wonder that many throw up their hands and give up trying to battle the culture. Some of these simply give in and go with the flow, while others check out altogether, finding a place out in the country, throwing out their televisions and having as little to do with the rest of us as possible. Many others, knowing they cannot escape to rural tranquility due to job or family commitments, do their best to withdraw privately from the exasperating culture.

Our culture, with its 24-hour news cycle and information overload, obfuscates every important matter. From the mainstream media to mysterious entities that claim detailed insider knowledge, virtually none can be trusted as they manipulate facts into contradictory stories about almost every news item. That is an unsound basis on which to build a functioning and productive society.

We are warned that things will only get worse as the end approaches (Matthew 24:6, 8, 21; II Timothy 3:1, 13). Society will continue to break down, violence and deception will increase, and persecution of those who live morally will intensify—not a positive outlook as we prepare for the kingdom of God.

(Adapted and excerpted from *

With all the fanciful speculation swirling about concerning the much heralded “10 Days of Darkness”, I thought I might present a few thoughts, from a source that can be absolutely trusted, about being quiet, a shutdown, if you will, an escape to tranquility that might actually be profitable to read, think about and even do.

Be still and know that I am God

This thought comes from Psalm 46:10, “Be still, and know that I am God; / I will be exalted among the nations, / I will be exalted in the earth.”

This verse comes from a longer section of Scripture that proclaims the power and security of God. Here is the whole psalm:

“God is our refuge and strength, an ever-present help in trouble. Therefore we will not fear, though the earth give way and the mountains fall into the heart of the sea, though its waters roar and foam and the mountains quake with their surging. There is a river whose streams make glad the city of God, the holy place where the Most High dwells. God is within her, she will not fall; God will help her at break of day. Nations are in uproar, kingdoms fall; he lifts his voice, the earth melts. The LORD Almighty is with us; the God of Jacob is our fortress. Come and see what the LORD has done, the desolations he has brought on the earth. He makes wars cease to the ends of the earth. He breaks the bow and shatters the spear; he burns the shields with fire. He says, ‘Be still, and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth.’ The LORD Almighty is with us; the God of Jacob is our fortress.”

Notice that the majority of the psalm is written in the third person as the psalmist speaks about God. However, God’s voice comes through in verse 10, and the Lord speaks in the first person: “Be still, and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth.”

Be still. This is a call for those involved in activity, to be still. The word still is a translation of the Hebrew word rapa, meaning “to slacken, let down, or cease.” It is only after our own activity on our behalf has stopped that we can acknowledge our trust in God. Christians often interpret the command to “be still” as “to be quiet in God’s presence.” While quietness is certainly helpful, the phrase means to stop frantic activity, to let down, and to be still. For God’s people being “still” would involve looking to the Lord for their help (cf. Exodus 14:13); for God’s enemies, being “still” would mean ceasing to fight a battle they cannot win.

Know that I am God. Know in this instance means “to properly ascertain by seeing” and “acknowledge, be aware.” How does acknowledging God impact our stillness? We know that He is omniscient (all-knowing), omnipresent (present everywhere), omnipotent (all-powerful), holy, sovereign, faithful, infinite, and good. Acknowledging God implies that we can trust Him and surrender to His plan because we understand who He is.

I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth. It was tempting for the nation of Israel to align with foreign powers, and God reminds them that ultimately He is exalted! God wins, and He will bring peace. During Isaiah’s time, Judah looked for help from the Egyptians, even though God warned against it. Judah did not need Egyptian might; they needed reliance on the Lord: “In repentance and rest is your salvation, in quietness and trust is your strength” (Isaiah 30:15).

When we are still and surrendered to God, we find peace even when the earth gives way, the mountains fall (verse 2), or the nations go into an uproar and kingdoms fall (verse 6). When life gets overwhelming and busyness takes precedence, remember Psalm 46:1, “God is our refuge and strength, an ever-present help in trouble.” Stop our activity, run to Him and fall into His arms. Acknowledge that He is God and that He is exalted in the earth. Be still and know that He is God.


Rejoice in the Lord always. Again I will say, rejoice! Let your gentleness be known to all men. The Lord is at hand. Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, so that by the power of the Holy Spirit you may abound in hope.

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It’s very clear that SOCIALIST MEDIA just wants people to OBEY SOCIALIST AUTHORITIES.


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Because they are already in LOCKSTEP with SOCIALIST VALUES – Slaves do what they are told – and the Elites reap the benefits – those who tow the Party Line will not suffer what they imposed upon the populace – or so they believe – they, too, could be exterminated – paid Robots.
Let us learn from History – lest we be doomed to repeat it!


Somebody would have to explain this to Dementia Joe. Even then he’ll probably not get it…
Everyone keeps calling Slow Joe Vice President. Slow Joe would conclude Nanzi is helping Slow Joe.




duchess, I think the important part of this Amendment is the “…by law…” part….”..may by law provide…”
This means the Senate has to pass it, and the President needs to sign it.
yeah, good luck w that!


The Constitution already provides for the process and those who participate – the Speaker wants to ‘pack the participants’ –
Wouldn’t they have to change the Amendment to the Constitution to do so? If so there is a process by which that can be done – and I do not believe it is called a ‘Bill’ passed by Congress.
Agree with you about the ‘by law’ part – the ‘law’ has already been provided in the Constitution – Yes?


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Gail Combs

Sir Aaron (Says he is FBI)

So as an Agent I’ve been working cyber crimes for over five years. @JohnWHuber is exactly right in his assessment. I’m going to go into a little more detail.

This type of “hacking” is called account takeover fraud. It’s exactly what it sounds likes. Somebody gets access to your account through an unauthorized access. This is typically accomplished by phishing. Second common way is by using your passwords to brute force into your acct.
Getting your password could be a via a data breach.
For example, you own a Chevy Tahoe and visit a Tahoe fan site which has weak security and suffers a breach. Then the hackers try your email and password at various other sites.
Local police don’t investigate this at all. Most other Fed agencies including FBI will not investigate one offs. We Feds only investigate takeovers if it’s part of a larger identifiable pattern or a certain business or entity is a victim.
For example, hacker gets access to a An entire schools payroll. Something like that. Other possibility is that it’s a political issue and Feds feel obligated to investigate. Because the problem with a hacking of a Twitter account is that thousands of them happen everyday. The FBI established IC3 as their cyber intake. That’s where you go to report a cyber crime to the FBI. But in order to investigate an Agent has to open a case then ask an AUSA (like @shipwreckedcrew) to open a case too so we can issue subpoenas. Tough sell on one.
Which btw is suspicious because the Twitter takeover doesn’t follow the pattern of a typical takeover as @JohnWHuber said. If this was a takeover, it was shrewd in that it’s sole purpose was to make Sully look biased. With a single tweet.
Who can investigate this easily is Twitter. Because the FBI wouldn’t be able to do anything without first getting data from them.
What do they keep? It’s no mystery. You can see it yourself. Login history with IP addresses and device information. You can go into account history and see yours now. Now FBI or DHS or whoever investigates any takeover would first subpoena that info.
Unfortunately an IP address doesn’t mean much these days. Although in this case I suspect the IP history would show the account wasn’t hacked. See most criminals are smart enough to use proxies, VPNs or hotspots. It’s still useful info but doesn’t get me to the end user.
Unless of course the IP history shows the user was using the same cell service as the owner in the same geographic area.
Also, why were tweets locked down by the owner? My guess is because history isn’t kind to his case.
Twitter can come out and provide confirmation within a few minutes. No need to “look into” it.

Deplorable Patriot

With this, I am retiring for the evening. Buono notte, tutti.


Have a good night.

Gail Combs

Another Sir Aaron
He is riffing of the Roscoe thread I put up earlier today on the Durham Spygate Case.

Very good thread by @RoscoeBDavis1 which I’m going to riff off. Roscoe already covered many of the problems with this case…I’m going to discuss the politics of it, just why even ordinary investigations take so long.
Roscoe thread
I’m a specialist in financial and cyber cases with particular emphasis on complex multi-defendant cases. Most of my own investigations take several years to bring to indictment. Let’s start with the basics.
First, once you get an investigation up and going, it takes a while to get evidence, organize it, then analyze it. For example, let’s say a bank account has been identified. A subpoena has to be issued and served. Then a bank will deliver the records you subpoenaed and 𝘰𝘯𝘭𝘺 what was requested. Now, normally the investigator will request everything and the kitchen sink in order to cover all the bases. But that still wont get you everything. I’ll come back to that. So the records come in. This used to be physical documents now is mostly electronic.
So that often takes two to four weeks to get those records. They have to be analyzed for information. That takes time. Then that may lead to more accounts being identified. Now if that account is held by the same person that might be covered under the subpoena. But it’s not. Its Let’s say its an account/person/company that wasn’t known when the first subpoena was issued. Or its at another bank entirely. Guess what? Now a second subpoena has to be issued. Now you’re almost two months out and you’ve got two accounts.
And many times the bank doesn’t give you everything because they overlook stuff or make errors. They forget signature cards or they want to argue over whether the subpoena covers certain items that weren’t specifically mentioned.
Now many people think this happens in a vacuum. It’s important case so the Agents should only work that. And maybe there are Agents dedicated to the investigation that have absolutely nothing else. But most Agents have other duties even if they have no other cases.
And while a particular case is important to you, Agents have lots of things that are important going on. For example, my AUSA calls me and says they want something by Friday. That’s a priority for me. But that priority changes if an AUSA in another state calls and says they need me to testify as an expert next week. At that point, I have to drop everything to work on that case. Travel to/from also will take a week. One day to fly in, one day to fly out, and at least one day to be in court assuming the prosecution can accurately predict which day I’m needed. So now two weeks have gone by and I’ve not worked on my case. Also, it’s October. I’ve got 15 mandatory briefings to do. I’ve got a TS clearance so I have to take TS briefings/trainings for my agency and the same one for the FBI. So that takes up more time.
Oh, btw, it’s October and I’ve taken ZERO leave. I have use or lose. Now I’ve got a month to take off between now and January. This happens to senior agents A LOT. Between September and January 2nd, there are at least 6 holidays. I say at least because sometimes the President gives us Christmas Eve off. That’s 7 days. Ok…moving on. See in most people’s fantasy world, emails and text messages are easy to obtain and then analyze. This just isn’t reality. First you’ve got to get them. You get an email account via search warrant (the emails that is).
An affidavit has to be drafted then reviewed by attorneys then signed off by a Judge. That can happen in a matter of hours but usually takes days. Then it’s served on the provider. That is done electronically.
Two weeks later or longer you get a file with 10,000 emails. Now you’re thinking just run keyword searches. For example, people were talking about insurance. So just run a search for “insurance.” Sounds good, right? Wrong. People make typos. They abbreviate. They use jargon.
They imply a thing without actually saying it. None of that gets caught by using keyword searches. In text messages some people hardly use intelligible English. What has to happen is the case agent(s) have to review ALL of the emails and text messages.
You ever read 10,000 emails? Now let’s say that email communicates with another email that is clearly relevant to the investigation. Guess what. You have to go get another warrant and wait for the production.
So let’s move on. Roscoe mentioned TS material and he outlined the problems with it and why it needs to be declassified. Well there is also a problem in reviewing it in the first place. Guess where you have to be to review classified material?
If you said “the office” you are correct. Agents can’t take it home and really can’t access it remotely. If its SCI then it has to be reviewed in a SCIF. So guess what happened in March? All Federal employees were told to work from home and limited time in the office.
Whenever somebody at the office gets infected the entire building is shut down for cleaning and those in the workgroup are not allowed back for 14 days. Also, entire courthouses and businesses were closed. In short, COVID really played havoc with the ability to get stuff done.
Moving on. Interviews in major cases are often left until the end or at least until the Agents and prosecutors know enough to do a thorough interview and detect any false information given by the witness/subject.
The problem with interviews, and a lot of Agents don’t know this (this is a major problem with management who wants to do things the old way), is that you give information when you interview people. The mere question can signal what you have/don’t have or know.
Moving onto additional problems. When phones/computers/etc. are deleted or need to be forensically analyzed this takes time. You have to get the items then get a computer scientist to image it then run it through forensic programs to push out information (like deleted files).
Let’s talk about multiple targets for a minute. As a case is developing you start adding more Targets/suspects/subjects. As you are building a case many times you realize the case against certain conspirators is weaker than others. The evidence you have is massive.
What this means is going back through what you’ve got or focusing on evidence you need for these particular subjects. Some subjects the case may be clear cut and ready to go. But you aren’t going to indict that person until you’re ready to go on all of them.
This is especially true with a RICO case. But even in a general conspiracy case or any case where you will charge multiple people, you really don’t want to charge until you are ready to go. Contrary to popular opinion, government resources are finite.
Agencies are loathe to assign more people. You may think this case is important but to top brass this is a giant suck of resources that will produce ONE STAT. That’s nice for press but terrible for your stats. And that’s mostly what management cares about. That’s what gets money from Congress and asset forfeiture. When you indict a case that puts things into motion you can’t stop. Discovery. Hearings. Motions. Possibly trial prep. All of that takes up resources from investigations. It also takes up the prosecutor’s time.
Another potential problem is that the defendant can talk to co-conspirators and defense attorneys can talk to one another. That could be a problem if investigators are still collecting evidence.
Going back to evidence for a minute. A lot of things being looked at by Durham are probably not illegal in and of themselves. I’ll give you an example that’s not related but show how an action that is legal can be illegal under certain circumstances.
Here’s an unrelated case but related to the govt misconduct against Trump.
So IRS-CI employees and most law enforcement have access to multiple databases including FinCEN either directly or indirectly.
They run inquiries all day everyday. As long as its related to their job there is nothing wrong with it. But let’s say a guy gets divorced and runs his wife (I was a supervisor and I had an employee do this). That’s illegal.
That was the case in this DOJ case where the analyst accessed information (that case is more problematic because he also leaked it). The Durham case will likely be much more difficult because many actions may be perfectly acceptable under normal circumstances.
Remember what I said about all those emails and texts? Now they have to be gone through to determine who knew what and when they knew it. That’s likely the only way to establish intent to commit a crime which is what would make certain actions criminal.
As an aside, I was previously skeptical that Durham would be able to prosecute anybody. The reason is because these cases, from my experience, are exceedingly difficult to find evidence of intent. I’ve now changed my opinion due to what I’ve seen so far. However, my doubt was never related to the time the case was taking.
There are many other issues that can delay a case I’ve not even touch. But I hope this serves as a decent discussion of why these cases can take so long (on top of Roscoe’s points).


Is Kayleigh talking in code?


She’s trolling like crazy and I LOVE IT!!!


She did an interview with Fox on the 10th from home while quarantined that lasted just over 8 minutes. During the entire interview her clock minute hand never moved. The fox channel had her in wide shot with the clock behind her, then narrow shot with just her, then wide shot, narrow, wide shot, narrow through the eight minutes that include news clips.
The clock was set to Q’s recent Micky Mouse Clock (Q post 4730 with clock showing 10:10 ) the entire time. Essentially she was involved in a Q proof.


Just a silly guess, but If she does have a new time set that does not change tomorrow morning during her interview I’d wonder if it has something to do with this post.
Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 ID: a63e6c No.10949641 📁
Oct 6 2020 15:08:10 (EST)📁
Time for a change?
“Let’s see what happens.”

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