2021·02·20 Joe Biden Didn’t Win But Silver is Money Daily Thread

Scroll down for some info, some of it may be useful, some may be interesting, some might even be both, but more likely most is neither, about precious metals and what sorts of products are out there.

His Fraudulency

Joe Biteme, properly styled His Fraudulency, continues to infest the White House, we haven’t heard much from the person who should have been declared the victor, and hopium is still being dispensed even as our military appears to have joined the political establishment in knuckling under to the fraud.

One can hope that all is not as it seems.

I’d love to feast on that crow.

But we do have a nice little distraction at the moment. SCOTUS at least pretended to pay attention to a lot of election fraud cases on the 19th; as I write it’s 5PM ET and I have no idea how that went. It’ll be interesting to see how they weasel out…this time.

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

Silver (and Other Bullion): The Basics

First thing: Bullion is not a coin collection, and a coin collection isn’t bullion. People I know who know I collect get the two mixed up a lot, and I suppose it’s understandable, because coin shops generally sell both rare coins and bullion.

The key difference is that collector coins are generally worth considerably more than the metal they contain, and even when they’re not, they’re being bought because of the date of issue, the design, the error made in producing it, or any of a number of issues that have nothing to do with what it’s made off. The value of the metal in the coin puts a floor on its value, though. For instance, there are plenty of “common” gold coins that collectors want (because they’re trying to put together a date set), that are worth barely more than “melt” (the term for the value of the gold or silver in the coin). Their prices move up and down whenever gold fluctuates. But they’re still being bought for their interest as collectibles; they’d be worth something even if the gold value dropped to zero (like that’s going to happen!).

Bullion, on the other hand, is being bought because it is made out of what it is, and other considerations are secondary. But not necessarily insignificant: People will buy precious metals in a form that makes it easier to sell. One of the issues is it being in a form that the buyer will trust to actually be made of silver (or gold) rather than somehow faked (e.g., gold or silver plated lead). If it has to be assayed, that has a cost, which will eat into how much you’ll be paid for your bullion. Which is why a struck coin (or coin-like) object is often trusted, and why some of this stuff comes in tamper-evident packaging.

To sort of drive home the difference, I was told this story by a coin dealer one time, and I’m sure it’s not a terribly uncommon occurrence. Someone offered him a gold coin. It looked to be a rare date, so it’d be worth a lot more than the gold content. On closer examination, though, it was counterfeit, but undeniably made out of real gold. He paid the customer what the gold in the coin was worth, then took a pair of pliers and bent the coin…and tossed it in a pot he was going to sell to the wholesale market, where it would no doubt be simply melted. He didn’t want anyone to mistake the coin for something rare…as opposed to just a lump of precious metal.

I’m going to assume here you want silver itself, not a piece of paper saying you’re entitled to it, not a futures contract, not mining stocks. You want the lump of metal in your hand.

History and Overview of the Metals Themselves

Some history, because why not? Copper, silver and gold (among other metals) were all discovered so long ago we have no idea who discovered them. When coinage was invented in the 600s BCE (at least in what we think of as the Western world, though that place–Lydia–was in present day Turkey) it started out as an alloy of gold and silver. These materials were known to be rare, and were valued as jewelry if nothing else. Gold, in particular, simply didn’t tarnish or corrode. Silver would tarnish, but once it did tarnish, that was the end, it didn’t turn to useless powder like iron did. Copper similarly. In fact, these metals are sometimes found free in nature, not needing to be extracted from ore: gold most commonly, then silver, then copper. (Because of this, in most ancient Egypt, gold was considered more common than silver and was less expensive. Once we figured out how to extract them from ores, the situation changed.)

Unsurprisingly, given their similar chemical properties, copper, silver and gold appear in the same column of the periodic table, and they’re known as the coinage metals, because once we started making coins, those were the metals that went into them. Gold, in particular, was difficult to convincingly fake, because it was denser than anything else known. Nothing else was as heavy on a per volume basis. If you gold plated a lead brick, that brick would be much, much too light! (Only in the 1700s did we discover other things, like platinum or tungsten, that could equal or exceed gold’s density.) Their chemical symbols are Cu (copper), Ag (silver) and Au (gold). But, when talking to someone whose interest is in historic coins, they’ll be abbreviated AE, AR, and AU, usually as ligatures (like Æ, but AU and AR don’t seem to exist in unicode as ligatures). I learned the chemical symbols long before the numismatic ones, and get twitted for writing Ag a lot.

Immediately to the left of these three, under iron/cobalt/nickel, are a group of six metals called the Platinum Group Metals. These are: ruthenium (Ru), rhodium (Rh), palladium (Pd), and osmium (Os), iridium (Ir), platinum (Pt). Platinum is quite famous, the others less so. Platinum was discovered about a century before the others, and they’re almost invariably found together in nature. You can buy platinum, palladium, and sometimes rhodium as bars and rounds (and even NCLT platinum and palladium, I’ll explain what that means below). At least in theory you can, for rhodium–you’d better bring about $25 grand to the table. But the others (ruthenium, osmium and iridium) are very specialty items, hard to find in solid as opposed to powder form, and available in 50 kilogram lots.

And to the left of osmium is rhenium (Re), an interesting metal in its own right, and the second to last stable element to be discovered, back in 1908. It’s sometimes used in spacecraft and jet engines, relatively cheap compared to the PGMs but more expensive than silver and considered the ninth precious metal, sometimes.

Anyhow: Once we started making coins, gold and silver began to be thought of as “money.” (Copper was good for making money out of too, but it had a number of other uses as well, and still does.)

Troy Ounces and Purity

The precious metals (but not copper) are commonly weighed out in either grams or troy ounces. Troy ounces, though are different from the grocery store ounces (avoirudupois onces); it’s a parallel weight system. Avoirdupois and troy both use the same “grain” (the grain you use at the reloading bench; the grain your ammo’s bullets are weighed in). But an avoirdupois ounce is 437.5 grains, where a troy ounce is 480 of them. Worse, a troy pound is twelve troy ounces, 5760 grains, whereas an avoirdupois pound is 16 avdp ounces, or 7000 grains. Fortunately, you will almost never hear about troy pounds except in some weird Parade magazine ads for silver weighing a quarter or a third of a pound (don’t do these–you’re paying their advertising budget). Pretty much, everyone in the US who deals in precious metals thinks in terms of troy ounces, and even multiples will be in ounces. There are ten ounce, hundred ounce, and even thousand ounce bars of silver out there, but I don’t recall ever seeing bars denominated in troy pounds. (Which doesn’t necessarily mean some eccentric guy isn’t doing that, somewhere.) Even overseas in the metric rest-of-the-world, the troy ounce clings to life, and foreign countries and companies make products in ounces, alongside their other products in grams.

You will sometimes see gold sold in kilogram bars. A kilogram is 32.15074657 troy ounces…if you can afford to buy that much gold in one lump, good for you! And those bars you see in videos of bank vaults? They’re typically about 400 ounces. They don’t make them precise, but they are marked with their precise weight. At that level, the institutions have no trouble whipping out their calculators and knowing what it’s worth.

Even a futures contract is for an approximate amount…you’ll be delivered about 100 ounces of gold, possibly in one big bar, but will be expected to pay a certain price per ounce. Just be prepared to buy a bit more or a bit less than that. I wasn’t planning to talk about futures, but there is one good thing about them from our standpoint; if a company can say that their bars are “good delivery,” that means the Big Boys trust that company and its bars, and therefore you can too.

[A troy ounce, by the way, is 31.1035 grams. That’s a number I have memorized. But I don’t remember other than “twenty eight point something” how many grams are in an avoirdupois ounce, which should tell you where my head is–precious metals, not groceries. [If I need to know I can grab a calculator and do the following: (437.5/480) x 31.1035.] And incidentally, since the mid 1900s the ounce (both of them) has been defined in terms of the metric system. (Aw, geez, now I have to look it up): one avoirdupois ounce is exactly 28.349523125 grams, by definition. And that also means the troy ounce is exactly  31.1034768 grams by definition, just in case the six digits of precision I have memorized isn’t enough.]

Purity is usually given as a decimal fraction; you will see notations like “.900 fine” which means ninety percent of whatever it is you’re looking at, is of the precious metal, the rest is some sort of alloy. Generally, when looking at a piece of bullion, you will be told how much pure metal is in it. A one ounce gold American Eagle, for instance, will weigh more than an ounce, but there will be a full ounce of gold in it plus some copper and silver. Our old silver coinage was .900 fine (this will become relevant below) and people call that “coin silver.” British silver was 0.925 fine in the good old days, that’s commonly known as “sterling silver.” In a way it really doesn’t matter, what matters is the net amount of silver or gold. (The other metals will generally be .999 fine in any product you will find.) Gold, by the way, is often given in karats, 24 karats is pure, 18 karats is .750 (common in European jewelry), 14 kt is common here in the US (and the Europeans wonder why we go gaga over it).

Your Choices for Silver

So how do you get into silver? There are three main methods–and the first two apply to the other metals to some extent or another.

1–Rounds and Bars

A lot of people produce “rounds” that look like coins; when you look at them closely, though, the writing says they contain so much silver (usually an ounce). There won’t be a denomination, and usually there’s no country name, but there will be a company name. In this same vein, there are one ounce bars (rare for silver) and larger bars (5, 10, 100 and even 1000 ounce). Sometimes the rounds are prized and even collected for the artwork; even I once bought a two ounce round that had a “Don’t Tread On Me” motif on it. In all cases, there is a marking on the rounds/bars indicating how much silver is in them, and they are usually 99.9% pure, better known as .999 fine. Gold purity will usually be given this way too, but sometimes, you will see it given in karats, 24 karat being pure. Back when I was buying lots of precious metals (when the price was a lot lower), I tended to buy silver in larger bars, with some rounds thrown in. I also had bars of other metals (but not gold).

If you get into more expensive metals’ bars, there are some big, internationally known companies whose one ounce (and higher) bars are considered trustworthy, such as Johnson Matthey, Hereaus, PAMP (formerly Credit Suisse and you’ll see plenty of bars marked as such), APMEX, and Engelhardt. Some of these come in a tamper proof plastic pack. Recently, I’ve seen gold come as a sort of wafer like a big chocolate bar, with individual blocks you can twist and break apart. Although this looks like a decent way to buy gold in one gram increments, I have no idea what the aftermarket is like once they’ve been broken apart.

1/2 ounce platinum bar from PAMP; they sell many different sizes in both metric and troy, the troy sizes being more common here, but 1 gram being conveniently small. They also do silver, gold, palladium and even rhodium.
Don’t be fooled, this bar is MUCH larger than the PAMP one above.
This is one of those break-apart-able chocolate bar style, I’ve seen them with little piece sizes of 1 g (like shown here) and 1/10th of an ounce. As I said I have no idea what the aftermarket is like for the pieces, but it might help you own gold (or platinum) in small pieces, which might be convenient for trade.

2–NCLT Bullion Coins

There are the current crop of coins–yes, legally coins because they have a denomination on them–that only an idiot would spend at face value. Because they don’t circulate, but are legal tender (to unmask idiots, maybe), they’re called “Non-circulating Legal Tender” or NCLT for short. These coins will have a government’s name on them, a denomination, and they will also give their content and purity. Generally even when the metal isn’t pure, there is a net ounce (or half ounce, or quarter ounce) of gold or silver or whatever in them.

Your choices are American eagles, Canadian maple leafs, Chicom Pandas (please don’t buy these!), and so on, often in ounces, sometimes in grams. Back in the 70s and 80s there was pretty much one country doing this, South Africa, and they were producing the krugerrand (the gold rand). If memory serves, they came in 1 ounce, 1/2 ounce and quarter ounce sizes. They were not pure gold, however: with copper alloyed they tended to be tan in color.

The Krugerrand, which started something…

Our gold eagle is also not pure gold but is alloyed with a mix of copper and silver, so it has a proper “gold” color to it. We also sell a “buffalo” that is very pure gold; but I don’t see those as often.

Canada, in particular, loves to make pure gold coins, one ounce and up, and they’ve even made manhole-cover sized 100 kilogram gold coins (I got to see one once) that were 99.999% pure. However, this isn’t necessarily a good thing. Because gold will dent easily, these “Maple Leaf” coins get beat up and generally won’t sell for as much as you would think they ought to.

Since the impure coins still contain an ounce of gold or silver (or whatever) in them, the alloy is extra and usually helps the coin’s physical durability.

This is actually my favorite way to hold gold–American eagles. They come in 1/10th, 1/4th, 1/2 and 1 ounce sizes, denominated 5, 10, 25, and 50 dollars (and yes, that $10 should be $12.50 to be consistent–but again no one is actually going to use these at face value!). In general the buy sell spread is narrow on them, but is significantly wider for the smaller sizes.

Silver eagles (they are only made in one ounce size, denominated a dollar) tend to sell at a huge premium…nevertheless I buy one each year, because…yes, well, I am collecting them by date. (So much for the great divide between bullion and collectible coins–but I consider them part of my collection, not my bullion stash.) Actually, since I’m not the only one collecting (rather than accumulating) these coins, that’s probably why they sell at such a premium.

Junk Silver

Finally…yes, you can buy old coins. There’s an entire market for what is called “junk silver.” Junk silver is real coinage that actually circulated, once, not like those NCLTs we were just talking about.

“Junk” silver. That 1964 quarter (and the dime next to it) is surprisingly worn…and 1964 is such a common date that any wear at all makes it worthless as a collectible. But it’s a bona fide piece of silver!

But, these are old coins that are common dates, or they worn so badly they have no numismatic value. (You will find a LOT of early 60s coins in junk silver, that are in pretty decent shape, and you will see the occasional very worn coin from before 1940 as well.) They’re worth their silver content, and that’s it. Prices will be quoted in terms of face value. Ask a coin dealer how much he’s selling junk silver for, and he’ll tell you something like, “26 times face.” (Kitco is selling hundred dollar bags for $2,596.24–so basically, 26 times face. But that includes quite a substantial volume discount!) That means he’ll sell you a silver dime out of his junk silver dime stock, for $2.60, a half dollar for $13.00…and a quarter for $6.50. In general, though, you buy several of these at a time. A dollar’s worth, face value, contains .72 ounces of silver in it. (It also contains copper; the silver is 90% pure.) With these coins, it will be a bit less because many of them are worn, but this is figured into both the buying and selling price. The Kitco bag I just mentioned, for example, claims to have 71.5 ounces of silver in it, not 72. If you are on a super-tight Biden-era budget, this is the only way to get into silver, because no one makes rounds or NCLTs with only 0.072 ounces of silver in them, but an old dime has that much.

When you go to sell these, you will be paid, again, some number times face value. The difference between what the dealer sells for and what he pays is how he makes his lunch money.

But now I need to tell you some things that are well known to the experienced, but probably won’t be obvious. First off, half dollars from 1965-1970 contain 40 percent silver, not 90 percent. You can buy those as junk too, and they’ll be cheaper, but there’s less of a market for them and the buy/sell spread is really bad. pricing and almost no demand. Second: Old silver dollars have .77 ounces in them (they’re different because the events of 1853 and 1873 left them alone–I’ve talked about this) and sell at more of a premium because too many people just like silver dollars. There are “junk” silver dollars, usually loose in a tray at the coin shop, but they will cost a lot more for what they are than junk dimes, quarters, and halves, because they’re popular as silver dollars–you’re edging into “numismatic” territory here. Finally: the part-silver “war nickels” from 1942-1945, identifiable from the fact that the manganese in them turned black AND the large letter over the dome of Monticello (that’s the mint mark) don’t trade in this market. At least, I haven’t ever seen them offered as bullion–but then I never really went looking, either. They contain 0.05626 ounces of silver in them, which is more than half as much as a silver dime…fancy that. (Silver was so cheap relative to gold at the time that none of our silver coinage at the time was worth even close to face value.)

Is there such a thing as “junk gold”? Sort of. There are plenty of US gold coins–some even desirable to a numismatist–that sell for just barely over their melt value, simply because that melt value is high. You could buy one of those. If you buy one that’s just barely of numismatic interest, you might not lose that much money if gold drops. You could go look up prices, figure out how much the gold is worth (gold was 20.67 an ounce back then, so a $20 gold piece that is “junk” should sell for a bit more than gold spot; proportionately so for the $2 1/2, $5, and $10), and if the coin isn’t priced that much more, you can go for it. I’d buy something with the highest grade manageable because those are least likely to drop in value; these coins will almost certainly come in a certified holder with a grade on it. You shouldn’t technically rely on that grade but use your own judgment (which if you are a beginner, you don’t have!) but in this case it doesn’t matter that much.

How about the other metals? Nope, no junk rhodium. No junk palladium. The only other precious metal that ever got used in a circulating coin (other than via fraud by Spain) was platinum, and that was by Russia in 1828-1845. Those coins came in 3, 6, and 12 ruble denominations, weighing almost exactly 1/3, 2/3, and 1 1/3 ounces. And the sixes and twelves are all scarce to rare, selling for far more than their weight in platinum (try five figures). You might luck into a three ruble piece that is beat to hell and gone not selling for too much over a thousand bucks…but that’s still far more than the platinum is worth.

Watch the Spread

However you choose to pursue this, be aware of the spread. Find out not just how much the dealer is selling it for, but also what he’s buying it for. These two numbers are different; this is how he pays for his lunch. And his mortgage. For example, gold eagles often sell for more money than other gold coins. But they also are bought for more money. The dealers have to make a living, and they do so based on that buy/sell spread. You want to pick a product that has the narrowest buy/sell spread possible, because that represents how far the price has to move before you can make your money back. For example, if they want $1850 for an eagle, but are willing to pay $1825, that’s a better deal than a Canadian Maple leaf selling for $1830…but they’re willing to pay you $1790 for it. Even though the Eagle is $20 more expensive. Because in the first case, you can make your money back after gold goes up $25, in the second, you have to wait for it to go up $40. The same sort of considerations apply to rounds, junk silver, and the like. (And this is why new jewelry is often a terrible buy for such purposes–though second hand might not be so bad–the first owner paid for the artist’s labor.) But, as with everything else, there is a caveat…the spreads themselves can change with time, and what’s true today can be not true five years down the line. But a really huge difference in spread between Major Well Known Refinery’s platinum bar versus Fly By Night Platinum Company’s bar probably won’t change all that much.

Junk silver has a wide spread and if you’re a major investor it sucks for that reason, but if you are expecting a huge price hike, or the end of the world, it has its advantages. If you find yourself in some post-apocalyptic market trying to buy a head of cabbage, a silver dime is the right size; a one ounce gold eagle will be a pain in the ass, if not impossible, to get change made for and you’ll probably not get all the change you should because of that (you’re paying them for the pain-in-the-ass factor). I’m sure I need not make snide remarks about moneychangers to this audience, though in this context, they have to make a living too. (The objections, in the Bible, were to them doing their business on Temple grounds.) Because of all of this, I do have a notable amount of junk silver–bought years ago when it was a lot cheaper. It’s part of the picture; I wouldn’t want it to be all of it…but if it’s what you can afford to do, it’s better than nothing!

In that mode, I have another combination coin collectiong/bullion story to tell. I went to a coin show with a couple of gold eagles just in case I found a coin I really wanted to buy (gold was a lot cheaper back then) but didn’t quite have the money for. Sure enough, there was something I didn’t have the cash for. “Can you take a trade for some of it?” I asked. The dealer asked me with some trepidation what it was I was offering to trade. After all, it could be something he’d have no use for, and he’d have to sell it to some other dealer and get less than it was worth so that dealer could make his lunch money–what a pain! I pulled out a gold eagle. His eyes showed his relief. One of those is instantly negotiable at a coin show as if it were a really odd-denominated piece of paper money. If nothing else he could walk over to the APMEX table and sell it. Of course so could I, so I basically got what it was worth in trade, just so he could save some time and not have to wait for me to run over there and make the deal. I even got some regular money back as change. Moneychanging, indeed!

Finally, there’s the issue of spot prices. Which by the way are now (Kitco Ask):

Gold $1785.60
Silver $27.36
Platinum $1276.00
Palladium $2412.00
Rhodium $23,000.00

(Rhodium is insanely rare stuff, and tends–in the long term–to go up and down a lot. I’ve seen it as low as $400…but that was 20 years ago. And back then you couldn’t buy it as bars, you had to buy it by the 50 kg lot as powder. Now PAMP makes bars and I don’t make nearly enough money. Gold bullion taste…chicken bullion budget!)

Anyhow, the issue of spot prices. You’ll never pay spot. You’ll invariably pay a bit over it, and that amount will fluctuate. And sometimes spot does something crazy, like taking a major dump, and no one will have any precious metals for you to buy. Sure, silver spot is fifteen bucks that day after the huge drop, but there’s no silver to be had. Some coin shops will have a tray full of miscellaneous silver rounds…and the price card on the tray will say something like $3 over spot. That means they’ll look at the spot price at that instant, and add three bucks to it, there’s your price. (And that implicitly means “per ounce” so if there’s a two ounce round in there it will cost you six bucks over the spot price of two ounces of silver.)

Spot prices tend to be a product, largely, of the futures market and doesn’t reflect what people will pay for physical metal that day, on Main Street.

I have deliberately given you no advice on whether to do this. That’s because I have no idea what’s going to happen in the market. Of late silver seems steadier than gold, which seems to be sliding. Even platinum (which has been ridiculously cheap lately compered to gold) seems to be doing well, going up mostly. But that could turn around at any time. I venture no predictions. I am not responsible if you run off and buy a bunch, and the price drops, because I haven’t told you to do so or even claimed it’s a good idea. All I’ve done is given you some pointers on how things work, and what kinds of products there are, and how you might evaluate them compared to each other. You can lose money on this. I know people who ran up their plastic buying gold and silver back in the early 2000s…and lost their shirts and ended up with monster credit card debt. I’ve been mauled and even eaten by that bear a few times myself (though never with plastic), and no one else was responsible for that.

If you want some notion of the bewildering array of different products out there, check out kitco.com and apmex.com But also check out your local coin shop(s), and price shop all of them and the internet, IF you decide to go forward with this.

Obligatory PSAs and Reminders

China is Lower than Whale Shit

Remember Hong Kong!!!

Whoever ends up in the cell next to his, tell him I said “Hi.”

中国是个混蛋 !!!
Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!!
China is asshoe !!!

China is in the White House

Since Wednesday, January 20 at Noon EST, the bought-and-paid for His Fraudulency Joseph Biden has been in the White House. It’s as good as having China in the Oval Office.

Joe Biden is Asshoe

China is in the White House, because Joe Biden is in the White House, and Joe Biden is identically equal to China. China is Asshoe. Therefore, Joe Biden is Asshoe.

But of course the much more important thing to realize:

Joe Biden Didn’t Win

乔*拜登没赢 !!!
Qiáo Bài dēng méi yíng !!!
Joe Biden didn’t win !!!

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The fact that this is happening in 2/2021 v. 20/2022 or even 10/2021 tells us the GOP 2022 primary is going to be Fire! I love it!

Wolf Moon

Yup. 2/2023 is going to be IMPEACHMENT OF BIDEN AND HARRIS.


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Joe Biden didn’t win.

Wolf Moon

OMG, that is just BRUTAL! This lady is AWESOME.

JW in Germany

I am surprised twitter has not suspended her account yet.

Valerie Curren

had to pass that one along–awesome!


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Deplorable Patriot

When you’re in the audience hall, it doesn’t look like that.

And finding photographs of the interior without that wide angle lens that’s distorting the image is not easy.

Frankly, the sculpture on the stage is scarier.

Deplorable Patriot

The building itself doesn’t give off any nasty vibes. Not that I noticed when I was there. It’s also not really in Vatican City. It stands over the border.

That’s not to say that the Church hasn’t been infiltrated with evil elements and that ugly architecture was pushed for quite a number of years so as to reduce the sense of the transcendence of the Church, but I don’t know that a serpent head is what the architect of the Audience Hall had in mind.


The sculptures of children being eaten by a horrible and terrible looking man thing in the Netherlands I believe and the lizard creature strangling a woman scared me into nightmares. why are these abominations in parks?

Wolf Moon

If you find one, post it!


Oh indeed DPat .That sculpture and the chair looks very much like the throne from GOT. and it is just evil looking.


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That’s really not a fair comparison.

Bologna is actually good.

Wolf Moon



Finally, the ‘Voice of Reason’!!!


I love Bologna! I had 3 Bologna and pickle sandwiches for lunches last week. 😃 


I like fried bologna but my wife won’t let me make it.


hahahah…brings back great memories of several Southern biker bar eats!
Fried bologna sandwich is good..not equal to BLT but up there!


Fried bologna with caramelised onions is a real treat.


If Trump had done this……yada yada yada

we know who the media work for.


Yes, I agree. They’re all protecting their “lifestyle” … whereby they fleece the global population as much as possible… which is why they all oppose Donald Trump.


Yes it is !


living in a CLOWN WORLD

Biden’s “Equality Act”

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She’s still in charge of Vice.




Wonder how he will decorate the WH for Christmas and the Easter egg roll?


The Lighter Days of the ‘Cuomo Brothers’ Show Are Long Gone
It’s very early in the probe, but current and ex-law enforcement officials say possible investigative avenues could include looks at potential false statements, any scheme to defraud the feds of funds or misuse of funds


Include daBozo and make it a twofer

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Valerie Curren

The Real Bozo the Clown (at least in Metro Detroit) just died the other day 🙁

Valerie Curren

Cracking up on that one!

Valerie Curren

somebody deserves a Bozo Button!

I really wanted my husband’s favorite quote from that movie “nude women…clowns welcome!”

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Brave and Free

Not till he’s in cuffs will it be worth following, just a distraction @ this point IMO


“It’s very early in the probe, but current and ex-law enforcement officials say possible investigative avenues could include looks at potential false statements, any scheme to defraud the feds of funds or misuse of funds”


As always, any 12 year old could connect the dots that would put this clown away forever. It’s not as if his guilt is in doubt, about this or a thousand other acts committed during a lifetime of crime.

The problem is that ‘Law enforcement’ always manages to find a way to play the three monkeys routine.

Because law enforcement is corrupt.

Simple as that.

Criminals run law enforcement.

It’s like a unified field theory.

It’s the one answer that explains everything.


And now for something different! Seth Rich stuff. I found it interesting and wanted to share.

SR – Symbolism Communication (wordpress.com)


Very interesting stuff, thanks. Sometimes when I think about the amount of vile things the Dems have done..it’s so much. Disgusting horrible things, one after the next, 24/7, year after year


Via Sidney Powell



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Texas has the second largest GDP of any state in the union. It is home to some of America’s most critical warfighting capabilities and is the only state with a semi-independent electrical grid.[i] These facts alone make Texas critical to U.S. national security. These same facts make the Lone Star State a prime target for America’s adversaries – especially a less recognized, yet remarkably dangerous conglomeration of state and non-state actors in Latin America, known as the Bolivarian threat network.

Led by Cuba and Venezuela, the Bolivarian threat network unites a lengthy list of criminal groups, socialist non-governmental organizations (NGO), digital activists, media entities, political parties, terrorist organizations, and rogue regimes to wage asymmetric war against the United States. Asymmetric warfare is known conceptually as the use of non-state groups for surprise and subterfuge to achieve parity against superior opponents. The Bolivarian threat network relies on more than just non-state groups, though. It also enjoys the support of America’s near-peer adversaries in Russia and China, and from the world’s leading state sponsor of terror, the Islamic Republic of Iran.[ii]

The term “Bolivarian” is drawn from the late Hugo Chávez’s so-called Bolivarian revolution,[iii] which began as a socialist political movement that has transformed Venezuela into a criminalized state and the worst humanitarian crisis in the Western Hemisphere.[iv] Chávez exported his socialist revolutionary model to other nations in the region through a political power bloc formed in 2005 called the Bolivarian Alliance of the Americas (ALBA).[v] Although the once-powerful ALBA has lost much of its legitimacy in Latin America after the death of Chávez in 2013, it maintains an informal network of non-state actors and high-profile political figures who continue to shape political discourse in the region.

The ALBA survives through the Bolivarian threat network and Texas’ location and resources make it a chief target for this Latin American adversary. The Bolivarian threat network, as the name suggests, relies heavily on covert and overt networks that run through Texas. Whether its strategy to undermine U.S. power in the region and weaken the security of the homeland is effective hinges, in part, on its operations in the Lone Star State.

This article is the first of a three-part series where we will deconstruct how the Bolivarian threat network has penetrated Texas by utilizing Venezuelan illicit networks and legitimate oil networks to tap into the core of economic and political influence in the Lone Star State. This is part of a six-month research effort to understand how Venezuelan threat networks directly affect Texas security and prosperity. But first it is important to understand the purpose and capabilities of a modern threat network and recognize their design.


Sidney Powell just opened up a wormhole.

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For a region with 33 countries and more than 626 million people, Latin America and the Caribbean does not command the kind of attention it deserves in the United States. That is probably why a powerful political-criminal network has been able to organize without much attention.

The “Bolivarian Alliance,” once led by Hugo Chávez of Venezuela and now Nicolás Maduro, can be best understood as a transnational effort to achieve a 21st century socialism in the Americas. The alliance once consisted of eleven countries and three observers, to include Iran and Syria.[1] Its strength has since dwindled with the death of Chávez and the departure of member countries Bolivia, Ecuador, and most importantly with the 2018 election of Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil.

Today, however, the once-dominant alliance is reinvigorated with the ascent of Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador, or AMLO, to the presidency in Mexico in 2018. AMLO’s ideological affinities with the alliance will certainly influence Mexican policies. Anticipating the outcomes could position Texas businesses to better protect its relationships in Latin America in a post-pandemic world.

Deplorable Patriot

For a region with 33 countries and more than 626 million people, Latin America and the Caribbean does not command the kind of attention it deserves in the United States.

No part of the world commands American attention like it should.

Cuppa Covfefe

Great point.

And the DEMONRATS and RINOs, led by Piglosi, Bye-Done, HO-HUN, Schumer, and the rest of the cast of Kommie Klowns, Klones, and Puppets, want to make sure that we’re looking at shiny things elsewhere while they’re destroying our republic, our society, our families, our Churches, and our lives…

VSGPDJT had a global (NOT globalist) understanding of all the forces and “powers” in play: Bye-Done, on the other hand, meets a new friend every morning when he stares in the mirror…

May ALMIGHTY GOD forgive, protect, and save us from the evil and evil one…

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Deplorable Patriot

I watched something this morning that claimed Texas was targeted with the cold, etc. That would assume that the weather can be manipulated, and I’m not convinced of that at all.


I try to avoid that topic, and refer people instead to Tambora 1816, and Bill Gates’ investment history.

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. One VEI 7 (not to mention 8) can ruin your whole climate decade (if not more)…

Or even a VEI 5 or 6…


You have room in your lunar space traveler?



Deplorable Patriot





“Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.



My understanding, yes, Ray! This is no joke!!!


Research “scalar waves” (Tesla – HARRP – etc)







Thanks, Ray!!!


YW duchess. 🙂




The Wiki article does not go into the types of weather modifications that we would be concerned with in reference to the recent storm (article talks about cloud seeding and agent orange) however it does not preclude such either so it would be interesting to see this treaty.

The link for the treaty itself on that page does not work.

The idea that such a treaty would speak in plain language as to capabilities in weather modification is unlikely or else it would be common knowledge so I’d assume any successful search would use ambiguous catch all language to limit the use of weather modification. Example there was a separate article recently, not sure if I read it here or elsewhere, that claimed the rule was “weather modification is only permissible in your country”, which can have a variety of meanings if true since weather does not know borders. So would that be originate from, impact only, impact primarily. Then to what are the rules for non border areas such as oceans? Would it be okay to steer a hurricane while in international waters? Would any such treaty address NGOs?

Anyway, I’m sure Anons are looking into it and we’ll hear more if there’s anything to be heard.

Personally I find the timing and severity of that storm event to be suspect.

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Much like the hurricanes during the last 4 years that seemed, erm, targeted.





What Marc Short is about is getting Pence to be President of the United States or if he can’t do that to at least be rich. So that’s his mission…but Mike Pence basically left the Presidential race on January 6th


You know that Rush was on target given the hatred for him.

Utter irrational hatred, that POISONS EVERYTHING.

Case in point.


From this post on Diaspora, a rant from a former PCLinuxOS user and fan:
#PCLinuxOS has really pissed me off
I figured the messed-up fonts would get fixed in a future update but after 3 months, same unsolvable issue. So what, I could live with that. But then

In the Forum’s “Sandbox” section, only visible to forum members who are logged in, there was a thread about #Rush #Limbaugh, filled with hateful, nasty crap celebrating his death and berating his life and his followers. I stood up for Rush, said I was a fan, and that they should at least wait until he assumed room temperature before attacking his memory. Two other forum members agreed. But Tex, the lead developer, among others, resorted to an insulting barrage of hate against Rush, and I logged out, never to return.

I don’t care whether your #Linux distro is left or right politically, but when you use the distro’s official forum to launch a tirade of cruel and venomous hostility toward a public figure for his or her #political views, then you’re just an asshole and you’ve made the distro political as well. I would link to the thread, but the “Sandbox” (kind of a chatty, off-topic subforum) is not visible except to forum members who are logged in.

Once you make an #operating-system political, you’ve crossed a line I can’t abide. Time for a new distro, just because I won’t pollute my #computer with crap from a hostile #Leftist asshole who has made his distro political by posting such vitriol in the official forums.

Looking for a new systemd-free Linux distro. And no, not antix either because of this. I’ll revisit #SalixOS I guess.

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. . . MORE . . .


Hate like that is demonic. How can one hate God’s creation? We might dislike someone or not listen to someone we do not agree with but this type of hate on the posts is void of character.
Even myself I have to watch it because I read and hear about hate so much that it does not cling on me and then easy it is usable.

Cuppa Covfefe

Just look at the “Greens” who, truth be told, have NO interest in conservation or nature…

“Thanks” to Schröder and Trittin, Gophers, Moles, Racoons, Siebenschläfer, various mice, Wasps, Hornets, and other pests (as well as some invasive plants!) are “protected”, and we can’t even trap them, let alone kill them (despite their ever-increasing numbers)….

Yet they don’t even bat an eye at a baby (or ill or elderly person) being killed… seems that’s “good for the planet”… Euthanasia is their next goal, followed by polyamory, bestiality, pederasty, and eventually “death for point of view”…..

Just hearing sirens down the hill…. probably someone isn’t wearing a mask…..
Funny how a year or two ago the Polizei were nowhere to be found and took 45 minutes to show up when some of our new “Fachkräfte” (read: refauxgee Moslems) stabbed some people at the train station….. priorities, priorities…….


Germany has lost its way also. To me it seems the politicians do serve some one other than their citizens with the open borders and looking the other way when immigrants kill. The two cultures do not mix .
I am so sorry what is happening.
I think in the US is still hope.


We’re living a dystopian nightmare


“Lucifer” was God’s “creation”?

Cuppa Covfefe

Yes, he was. Indeed he was the highest created being (a Cherub, cf. Ezekiel 28:14), but, having free choice, he wanted not only to “be like the Most High”, but to raise his throne above GOD’S.

Ezekiel 13:19:

13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

Deplorable Patriot

Lucifer was from the Choir of Principalities, I thought. St. Paul goes on about Principalities and Powers, none of the other choirs (Angels, Archangels, Dominions or Dominations, Crowns, Thrones, Cherubim and Seraphim).

We see Seraphim in Isaiah and the Apocalypse, and Archangels in the Gospels, Tobias or Tobit which is one of the Greek books Martin Luther took out of his version of the Bible, and in the Apocalypse.


I cannot tolerate the hate word. My grandma told us kids that saying we hate someone is the same as murdering them in the eyes of the Lord. When we hate we are filled rage and murder is in our hearts. I detest and loathe certain politicians or people who are hateful inside and out. but we cannot carry hate in ourselves it warps us and turns us ugly like rabid dogs.


You had a wise grandmother. These are good reminders. I do not hate but the word has recently slipped over my lips. I am trying to be more aware because words matter.

Valerie Curren

love the sinner & hate the sin–way easier to say than to do, like so many things!

Cuppa Covfefe

Chiefio has a lot about system-D. Seems he’s had more than a few “adventures” (maladventures?) with that…

Sad to say, some of the worst “hating” I’ve seen is on tech boards, and in the SillyCone Valley. I had to listen to a Wicca “Practitioner” vomit her vile opinions about Christians and Christianity (at a major computer firm, where both of the founders were Christians), knowing full well that if I posited my point of view, I’d end up in Personnel (as did a friend of mine there) getting an “attitude adjustment”.

Seems that some people are “more equal” than others… Sounds like a DIV0 “solution” to me…..

Cuppa Covfefe

Better yet, he can multiply by zero to correct for it 😀

And Tim Allen (as Tim “The Toolman” Taylor) paraphrases Ahhhhnold….
“I am the Denominator”…..

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LOL that is epic

Cuppa Covfefe

tails from the decrypt…

The proposed computer language “Babbage” has a few verbs that are often helpful. From a 1981 article in Datamation by Tony Karp:

Open and shut case
Basket case
Going, going, gone
OR ELSE (conditional threat)

That, and the tale of “Mel” the old-time programmer (the person who inspired that is actually pictured on the web) are a couple of my favorite computer jokes/articles from the Datamation days…


Mel is Mel Kaye, of Royal McBee, in the photo below:
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Wow, there he is! I’ve always wondered if that was a real story or just lore.


Think like Project Vertias. These people are emboldened.

President, Other School Board Members Resign After Video of Them Mocking Parents Exposed
By Jack Davis
Published February 20, 2021 at 11:12am


The entire school board of one California school district has quit after their comments trashing parents were captured on video.

The Oakley Union Elementary School District school board president, Lisa Brizendine, was the first to resign, followed by fellow board members Kim Beede, Erica Ippolito and Richie Masadas, according to Fox News.

The trustees were waiting for the official start of the meeting when talk turned to parents who had written letters or social media posts pushing for schools to reopen, according to the San Jose Mercury News.

“It’s easy to hide behind their screen but when you’re face to face with people, it’s a whole different ball game,” Masadas said, according to a YouTube video of the call taken by an anonymous listener.

Beede then pushed back against criticism from parents that she went to a party, even though she opposes putting students and teachers back in classrooms.

Warning: The following video contains vulgar language that some viewers will find offensive.

[see the 5:10 timestamp]

. . . “Bi—, if you’re going to call me out, I’m going to f— you up,” Beede continued, to the general laughter of her colleagues. “Sorry, that’s just me.”

. . . Masadas then said parents want alone time to enjoy [mari].

“My brother had a delivery service for medical [mari]. The high clientele were parents with their kids in school,” he said to laughter from the group.

“When you got your kids at home, no more puff-puff,” Masadas said.

A few moments later, board members learned they had been live the entire time, and the feed ended.

Once the video went viral, the members were deluged with calls to resign.

. . . “What are their true intentions,” Stalf wondered, “if they feel so freely that they can talk, you know, on a mic that may or may not be hot, what’s truly being said behind closed doors?”


North Texas is warming up and is pretty much melted out at this point.

In the last three hours even neighborhood streets have become 90% free of snow and ice.

There is still a lot of water and risk of re-freezing. As I’ve said elsewhere this is a risk because 1) too many local drivers are inexperienced in these conditions 2) too many vehicles are poorly maintained, especially with bald tires, and aren’t equipped with ice melt, ash, or even ice scrapers to be driving in icy conditions. Even if you are an experienced driver, I would not recommend being on the roads with other inexperienced drivers trying to get around.

That said, I did take a trip to our nearby taco shop via the neighborhood streets, and got a slew of bean burritos for lunch. People were out and about at about the same levels as a typical Saturday.

I haven’t spoken with many folks, but those I’ve talked to are out trying to recover from ice damage. One man was pullling off the 2 inch thick ice off the top of his coy pond hoping that his fish were still alive down there. (I don’t hold out much hope.) Others have the usual downed branches, vehicle damage, busted hoses. There have been many many reports of broken pipes, indoor waterfalls and icefalls. Some shocking (and eerily beautiful) frozen waterfalls pouring over balconies, stairs, down cieling fans, and over the lids of toilets.

My appliance guy was able to get to our house yesterday and completed the repairs to the dishwasher. The last problem was an old rubber hose that was deteriorating and blocking the water flow. It had not yet burst but was very much at risk. Fortunately we were able to get a stainless steel hose to replace it – they were not sold out (yet). He was very happy to save us having to call a plumber, particularly since all the plumbers (and other contracters) are much busier than normal right now.

Deplorable Patriot

From past experience, if you have an ice sheet on the top of a car, get it off before going too far. They WILL fly off and break windshields on other cars.


It’s illegal to fail to clear your car in WA state.


LOL – you funny guy today, Steve!!!


I am getting buried in snow – it has not stopped all week – I have no idea how much we have now – must be at least 1.5′ –

Hard to be SH when one is bundled up like an Eskimo – praying for warmer temps and a slow melt – Missing Pat – I am


Dunno – the only thing I can figure is she has gotten more snow that we have here – if the power was out – it should be back on by now – she has been gone (3) days now!!!


Oh? And – about what would she be warning?


Most definitely!!!

Deplorable Patriot

Well, we’ve been known to have solid ice storms.

Tonight, when I walked into Church to cantor…you should see the icicles hanging off the roof.


T M I…alert.

Last Wednesday afternoon, daughter in Iowa Colony, SSW Houston called me. She accepted my offer to deliver generators, electric heaters, fuel… Since IIRC, 6AM last Monday morning, she was without electricity. Except a brief 4 hour point early Wednesday, 3Am-7AM.

1,980 miles, ~30 hours nonstop, I.E., no fueling, tinkle, sleep, food… I guessed, I could do the drive under ideal circumstances in, <48 hours. Years ago I had completed a MD to CA drive in <72 hours.

El Paso on I-10 heading east, dozens of highway warning signs reporting severe fuel shortage east of Van Horn.

Somewhere east of Van Horn, TX, temps dropped below freezing. NOT a big deal.

Acceptable driving conditions through 6PM Thursday. Roughly five hours sleep at this point. ~1,380 miles in ~ 28 hours. Nearly all Interstate driving speed 70-75 MPH.
~ 500 miles to go. ~8 hours driving time to go. Toss in a nap, food, fuel… Called my daughter and told her noon Friday latest arrival.

Remainder of the evening temps dropped. Through Friday 6AM, low was 6F. Majority of the time in the 0-16F range. This not a big deal as truck is quite comfy.

After we left Fort Stockton, roads iced significantly. Driving a Ram, placed it in 4WD lock. Traction was good. Only noticed a slight slippage once. Speed typically 30-45 MPH. Initially few vehicles on the road, until we caught “the pack”.

~40 miles east of Fort Stockton “the pack” was single file semi’s…10-20 MPH. Another 20 miles the pack formed two lines, coming to, ALL S T O P. Literally 5 1/2 hours later, we started nudging forward.

Roughly 3AM Friday, we took the next exit. Roughly ~22 miles west of Odona on I-10. ~480 miles shy of Iowa colony.

The deal breaker for me was 2WD semis WITHOUT chains trying to drive on solid ice. Saw more than one semi without traction, blocking lanes. One semi, having lost traction, literally blocked both lanes.

Absolutely insane to drive on ice with2WD semi’s without chains. Would have been treacherous on I-10 dropping down to San Antonio. Iced roads. Significant long stretches of down hill.

Last night in a Tucson hotel. Tonight Vegas. Home tomorrow. It was an interesting adventure.

Note. Daughter’s electricity came back on a second time Thursday early morning. She call and text to say it was on. Cancel the drive if we wished. At the time we opted this far into the drive, let’s go see Grandson and Granddaughter. Probably leave generators and electric heaters with them. They lost a freezer and two fridges of food. They LEARNED a good lesson, GET PREPARED and STAY PREPARED.

Now to catch up with QTree news.


You are a heroic father. That’s all I can say.


Dang. That stretch through Fort Stockton is NOT fun under ideal conditions.


Yea. Have done three December crossings through Ft Stockton in the past two years, incident free. This deep freeze ya’ll are living this month is brutal.


One positive thing; I think your friend’s fish will be ok. They can survive under ice if they are getting oxygen, and a week or so should be ok. I hope so. I love the cool giant goldfish!


I know that in 2012 the freeze killed all the Coy at the North Dallas Benihana, and it’s taken years for the stock to grow back. I used to take my wife there quite a bit when the kids were still really small, even though it was a bit of a drive to get there. Naturally the kids loved the coy.


Is that like a car with a wrap?




The first time I really noticed a car wrap was when I was complimenting a woman on her car’s paint job. It was jet black with an 8-inch “beam” of magenta and an 8-inch “beam” of bright orange going across, bouncing off the undercarriage, and running off the hood. I said, “that sure doesn’t look like stock paint.”

She laughed, and said, “it isn’t. It’s not even paint. It’s a wrap.” So I walked over to it to see it more closely — the wrappers did a good job, I couldn’t tell, even when close. She continued, “this one’s pretty new — I only had it put on a month ago. It’s just something I decided to do every once in a while. The actual car is white.”

So, naturally, I thought a catfish masquerading as a koi would most likely be wearing a Sanke wrap.



They are slow-growing fish, which is one reason that good sized ones are $$$$$.


Unlike tropical fish, koi will live quite happily if their pond freezes over…..PROVIDED that there is sufficient residual oxygen in the water.

This can be provided by a small clear area (although with a 2″ covering, this doesn’t sound good), with underwater plants, with aeration, or through other means. If the pond is large and lightly stocked, the fish can even survive with no air for a while — they’re cold-blooded, and it’s not likely that they’ll be doing wind-sprints or jumping-jacks in subfreezing temperatures….likely, their metabolisms have been pretty inert.

Deplorable Patriot

Brought over from Marica’s.


His EOs seem almost scripted…



Yeah, like lawfare wrote them months ago


Every time POTUS Trump did anything hundreds of their sycophant bootlicking lawyers were drafting the remedy…waiting til the time to put them in front of Biden to sign


So the companies need to step up and replace the now-missing taxpayer money.


The more I see of this the more pissed off I am getting. WTH is GOING ON?

Wolf Moon

Scripted Chinese takeover of the United States, through traitors.


On top of China takeover, it’s the canceling of anything Trump. his kind must never rise again.
The kalorama kabal has probably had these orders written and ready every single time PTrump instituted any program to help American people…waiting for the installation of Biden.

Wolf Moon



Biden had nothing to do with this – there is a Demonic Army determined to finish the job they began with Zero!!!


Jobama hates America and Americans.


Okay, y’all can stop lookin’ ……………….

I found it! Eureka!
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Deplorable Patriot

Also brought over from Marica’s.

Wolf Moon

The level of TREASON is breathtaking.


Why are we tolerating this treason? Do we still have a country at this point? Dear Lord in heaven does this insane clown show ever end?

Wolf Moon


Maybe not.


Who’s going to stop them? The R’s cowered and only tolerated DJT’s America First policy .

Wolf Moon

The only people who CAN and WILL stop them are US.

We do that by spreading the understanding of what is going on, while others try to work within the system to gain ground.

We will have to work around several obstacles.


Agree but my cynical nature is overwhelmed by seeing the scope of their infiltration and edicts.
Every person tapped for positions are the most far left, often what would be considered radicals . The hydra is growing stronger every minute with the demonic obama/jarrett host dictating to their puppet in the WH what next to dismantle.

Seeing the freight train bearing down on you doesn’t mean that it can be stopped simply by seeing it and sharing the news

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Wolf Moon

Some of us are not going to make it to the end.

I am resigned to the idea that they will overreach more and more and nobody will do anything about it until the overreach is MASSIVE.

I’m off the hopium and facing the pain.


Understand and have to say that’s my thought right now also.

I hope and pray that the next generation will have the guts to stand up. Small but very encouraging thing in my world..my gs (s)are not hating the masks & lockdowns because of the obvious but because they think it’s stupid. Even they can see…their friends aren’t getting sick, their friend’s parents aren’t/haven’t been sick .

Despite their dad going full 2 masking, their other grandparents scared shitless and pushing vaccines…they’re not falling for it. Dropped one of at an outside bb court the other day and he said all of them playing have stopped wearing or even carrying masks.
Let them see and give them cunning and strength…is my prayer .

Wolf Moon

AMEN! Wolverines.


We had no idea how deep and how powerful the swamp is. Entrenched in the Fed Gov so strongly they they undercut and attacked President Trump from within for his entire 4 yrs and while he was a candidate.

100% they are “spying” on him right now.

Wolf Moon

Yes, I agree. Many abuses happening right now.


We have to band together and fight back. The best ways to do that are what Andrew Torba is advocating, and by getting the hell out of the blue-state shitholes. We have to build our own economies, force our red-state representatives to defend our way of life, and STOP doing anything for leftists. Left to fend for themselves, they will peter out like wet firewood. They don’t know how to do anything important. Gender studies and the like are not real-world skills.

We have made federal elections WAY too big a deal for far too long. We need states to take their powers back. That way, if you wanna live in a liberal shithole, you can move to one, but if I want to live in a sensible oasis of sanity, I have Montana. Or Idaho, or South Dakota. Or Florida if you like humidity and gators.


Like this ^. Simple but effective..and doable


The Library

Forwarded from 
Tierney Real News

Most of the developed world BANS MAIL-IN VOTING and where it is allowed in limited fashion, one must produce a government ID to secure a ballot.

The USA by FAR has the most lax voting standards on earth despite the Media and Democrats assuring us this is VERY good for us.

So WHY does most of the world ban mail-in voting? Easy. FRAUD. Not because they worry there may be fraud but because there HAS BEEN massive fraud in the past.
When it comes to voting, the USA acts like a 3rd world Banana Republic. Does anyone doubt that if not for absentee ballots (resulting in over 90% turnout in blue districts that normally have under 60% turnout) Donald Trump would still be our President today?


Voting fraud is a real concern. Just look around the world | Opinion
If concern about voter fraud with mail-in ballots is delusional, it is a delusion that is shared by most of the world.



Stu Cvrk


Wolf Moon



Amen. I believe the “pandemic” was created to require them (can’t go outside, can’t stand in line to vote — rubbish, all of it)

Wolf Moon

Absolutely. I am certain of it. The Q drop states as much.

A virus to get rid of Trump is asymmetric 4GW straight out of China’s doctrine.


….which means that DemChiCom leadership was in agreement PRIOR to the “pandemic” ever arriving in the USA. This wasn’t a surprise attack by China is asshoe.
If this was a true pandemic without any political overtones…many thousands of deaths would’ve been prevented..by HCQ,Invermectin, etc treatments and the use of the hospital ship and portable hospitals that Trump had provided.
It was 100% political from day one.

Wolf Moon

Yup. Maoism / Stalinism sees nothing wrong with killing old opponents who get in the way of their Nirvana. Especially if this can be done without getting caught.


Difficult to get caught when State run Ministry of Truth (across all mediums) cover and provide the narrative.
The 4th Estate is the mechanism by which they get away with it.

At least we’re holding ground with the wonderful QTree, Gab, Alt sites , etc that haven’t been squashed

Wolf Moon

Yup! Now we have to GROW THE FREE SECTOR.


Did Space Force Just Defeat the CCP Weather Weapons?? 2-19-21
RedpillTheWorld Published  February 19, 2021



There is no such thing as “weather modification” technology, and Hillary sold the SAP’s for to China.


MIT has a degree in geoengineering.
Using small particles to seed clouds and cause cooling/downward activity or heating/rising motion is not all that complicated.


I’ve actually watched a video from a geoengineer explaining how it’s done. Complete with tables of materials that could be used. It has to do with an already established “line” going up off the coast of the pacific northwest that is driving warmer pacific ocean air up into the artic which is indeed having a huge effects on the ice thickness, among other things. I think he called that line a hook or candy cane pattern.


I heard the slimeball teachers making fun of parents wanting school to reopen all resigned. I really hope they lose there pay to.


I thought it was the school board? Slime is right.


General McInerney
We need to remove Mitch McConnell from government starting immediately.




February 20

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General McInerney
Be aware of a false flag. Top level Biden officials meeting with CIA puppets.




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General McInerney
If you see Democrats like AOC in Houston make sure you tell them to get the hell out. They are there for publicity and to take over by 2022.





A great site to track current legislation and our legislators.




Texas Power Outages Explained—Jason Isaac | American Thought Leaders
What’s behind the devastating power outages in Texas? Some say the problem was freezing natural gas pipelines; some say it’s because wind turbines froze or mismanagement by the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT).

To find out what’s going on in Texas, I sat down with Jason Isaac, who predicted a power crisis in Texas months ago. He’s the director of Life:Powered, a national initiative of the Texas Public Policy Foundation seeking to “raise America’s energy IQ.” 

This is American Thought Leaders, and I’m Jan Jekielek. 

And before we get into the interview, please make sure to subscribe to our mailing list, in the description below, so you never miss an episode! 


Texas Public Policy Foundation are the good guys in Austin. They aren’t perfect – not so good on trade issues – but incredibly sharp on policy issues in Texas from a conservative perspective.





Boeing 777 as I understand it. Not what Boeing needs after just getting Super Maxx back in the air.


What right do they have to keep we-the-people from naming federal projects after PDJT? It is not their country.


Apparently, they think it is!!!


Unfortunately, yes.


Tore Says Show 05 FEB 21

Deplorable Patriot

Wow. It’s videos like this that should be used to wake up so many, and it probably won’t be used for that at all.


One of the better writers at QV has a crush on Sidney Powell. Said if she ever ran for President – he would quit his job to campaign for her.

Cited her Hillsdale speech here:



Do we still have Gold left on Ford Knox?


I know 50 some years ago we still had gold there. I saw a documentary at the time and was impressed.


WHOO HOO…..No more freezing in our immediate 2 week forecast!!🦋🤸‍♀️🦋
Water Ban Lifted!!!🦋🤸‍♀️🤸‍♀️🦋 Nick of time too, 10 bottles left, NONE to be found in Houston area, NONE. Lots of pipe draining, cleaning, washing to do. If you know any plumbers, send them to Texas, work galore.



Great to hear, Butterfly!!! * Doing a Happy Dance * Will keep praying for supplies.

Good Question – was wondering the same thing – Remember how smoothly things went when President Trump was in charge – it must hurt him to see all y’all suffering.


You know, I wonder. What’s to stop President Trump from starting a charity of sorts for natural disaster relief here in the U.S.? I’d donate.

I mean, can you imagine the splodey-heads if he was able to just up and send in the cavalry when the shit-hits-the-fan, and the fake administration has failed?

It makes me all warm and fuzzy just thinking about it.


Great Idea, Auber!!! BUT – I want him back!!!


Hope you get your place as you like it quickly. Its supposed to be nearly 80 this week here so i bet your be seeing much warmer weather too.


Yes, where IS FEMA?


Which, in turn, is right around the euphonium and Sousaphone.

Valerie Curren

I’m picturing a Seussian band now 😉


That was really cool. I’m going to torture the kids with it.

Wolf Moon

Oh, wow – that was just AWESOME!!!


How Texas Can Secure Its Grid Against EMP Threats–Support SB 1398BY KEVIN FREEMAN BLOG APRIL 24, 2015


The following is shared from Secure the Grid’s website. Kevin Freeman and Frank Gaffney testify (video provided). In addition, you can hear the reasoning behind the Electric Utility opposition. It’s not very strong–the Utility industry representatives simply don’t want anyone looking over their shoulders addressing the problem and call it “another layer of bureaucracy.” Yet, they admit there’s a real problem and don’t seem to have any proactive plans to address it. SB 1398 is a great first step in holding the industry accountable for protecting citizens from a very real catastrophic threat. There is an “action item” at the conclusion for how you can help Texas protect the Grid. And, even if you are not in Texas, if Texas passes this legislation, it will help protect America. So, watch the videos, draw your conclusion and place calls if you agree with the need for this legislation. [Note, there is also a bill in the Texas House sponsored by Rep. Tan Parker. We will provide details on it as well soon.]

Texas Senator Bob Hall Makes Progress to Protect the Texas Grid

APRIL 24, 2015

Texas Senator Bob Hall hears testimony on Senate Bill 1398 from Kevin Freeman and Frank Gaffney of the Center for Security Policy before the Natural Resources & Economic Development Committee of the Texas Senate. SB 1398 sets scientific and security based standards for electrical grid protection higher than the self-regulating industry standards. Under current regulations there is no goal to make the Texas grid withstand and recover from a catastrophic system wide event.

. . . MORE . . .


Secure the Grid

The Basicshttps://securethegrid.com/the-basics/

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PDJT news which might or might not have been posted:

Report: Trump Courting Donors For A New Social Media Platformhttps://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/02/report-trump-courting-donors-new-social-media-platform/
—PDJT has not joined any social media platform.
—He reportedly has hundreds of millions of dollars from investors, including Silicon Valley figures.

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Report: Trump To Begin Vetting Candidates At Mar-a-Lagohttps://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/02/report-trump-begin-vetting-candidates-mar-lago/
To ensure there are MAGA candidates for open seats

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JUST IN: Trump to Speak at CPAC in First Public Appearance Since Leaving White Househttps://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/02/just-trump-speak-cpac-first-public-appearance-since-leaving-white-house/
Orlando, Sunday, Feb. 28, the last day of CPAC.

Wolf Moon


Deplorable Patriot

February 28. Hmm.

Won’t bring hopium here anymore for the cold shoulder it receives, but this date has come up recently. May not mean a darn thing, but HMMMMMM…..

That address will need to be watched, IMO.

Elizabeth Carter

DP, We are supposed to hope. I will be watching Trump’s address February 28.

Hebrews 1:11 Authorized KJV
11 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Romans 5:3-5 Authorized KJV
And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; and patience, experience; and experience, hope: and hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

There are 133 Bible verses about hope. Bring all the hopium here you can. It is a good thing.



Yes, agreed.


I think there is a broad spectrum of opinions here. Some will have nothing to do with hopium, and those tend to be pretty vocal. Others will examine most things to glean what they can, knowing that some of it is not true and that people can’t always be 100% accurate. Others want to bring every implausible theory and believe it, wholeheartedly. It is incumbent upon each of us to either indulge and learn, correct mistakes, or scroll by. So, IMO, you should post what you want.

I listened to the Robert David Steele video you posted yesterday. Some things he says seem very “out there,” but his point about sheriffs being so powerful and having power locally was spot on. When the Left tries to invade a county or an area with some outlandish and destructive scheme, sheriffs can stand up, and have stood up, to them and they have backed down. The people need to unite in this way. It’s one more way to fight.


Please keep the hope coming, DP. There are many of us here who have it and appreciate it. This is, after all, the Q Tree.

Deplorable Patriot

Yes, it is. I’m finding more hopium and better discussion of it at Marica’s.

Plus, there are those who don’t want to sift the reality from the disinformation and skewed “truths” that have morphed over the years from prejudices and hatred that is taught.


Hope is good, but sometimes reality is different than what is expected. I like to hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. We also learn from what is hoped for, and battle plans sometimes don’t go as expected, but that doesn’t mean the war is over. Hope is moral boosting for some people and is needed. For some, they pin everything on a positive outcome, and when it suffers a setback, they get very negative and that’s not always in a beneficial way.

Some of the “hopium” that’s brought in may be just that, but sometimes, there’s some really good information that’s part of the “hopium”. It may be mis-interpreted, but still has value as information.