The Log In Our Eye: ‘Christians Are Responsible for the State of American Politics’

REALLY? Should we take this criticism from an FBI agent?

Or is blaming Christians just more “Battered Christian Syndrome”?

More “blame the victim”?

Or are Christians SUPPOSED to actually risk some battering?

It’s certainly BRAVE to make this claim to fellow Christians.

And FBI?

Well…….

Complicated business.

I’ll be brief. This is a possibly tough or angering, but definitely necessary read, which argues very effectively that “pure politics” and “no politics” are not places where Christians should be. We must strive to CHANGE THE WORLD. It is our SLACK in doing so, which has led to the sorry state of the planet, with SATANISTS, SCOUNDRELS, and CRIMINALS in charge.

Yeah, that’s a tough message, after losing to CHEATING. But why are they cheating? BECAUSE THEY CAN and BECAUSE THEY WILL – and both of those are because we have not been culturally effective. This article actually “goes there in kindness” with the internal rightness and external wrongness of American Christianity’s “Church Lady” insularity, wrapped up in a slap of TURTLEHEAD McCONNELL.

So how can we integrate politics into Christian living without being corrupted by the mendacity and horror of current American politics?

Some of that may involve cementing and guarding the places where truth and justice are safe (the “Aubergine strategy” in real life, and the “Wolf strategy” in cyberspace), but some of it involves going out and winning the world for GOD, just like Paul did, armed with every weapon that CHRIST gave him.

Perhaps we have not been doing as much of the latter as we could.

And perhaps not “perhaps”.

I’m not saying I have the final answer, but I see that the region where the answer lies does NOT exclude POLITICAL SAVVY, SUBSERVIENT TO GOD.

This may sound like SOME leaders we know.

Listen to this DISCIPLINE we need to hear:


LINK: https://townhall.com/columnists/johnnantz/2022/11/15/christians-are-responsible-for-the-state-of-american-politics-n2615961

QUOTES:

(FAR better to read the whole thing, IMO….)

We can whine about the lackluster results of the 2022 mid-term election cycle — there’s plenty of blame to share. Certainly top Republicans like Senator Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy bear direct responsibility. 

[WITHERING denunciation of the GOPe that you simply must read!]

Republicans seem poised to wrest power from the totalitarian Democrats in the House. This victory should not be discounted, despite the thinner than hoped for margin. …

…American Christians have desperately tried to believe that politics can be left to secularists who besmirch themselves with temporal concerns — as good fundamental, Bible-believing Christians, we’ll just lock ourselves in our prayer closets, cloister ourselves in our sanctified communities, and pull up the draw-bridge in front of our Christian schools. 

At the risk of being branded a heretic, I must assert, good Christian, your prayers are not enough.  

For far too long we’ve whistled past the graveyard, dithering about the inconsequential virtues like skirts versus pants, blind to the reality that we’ve succumbed to the same sinful myopathy that possessed medieval scholasticists, who quarreled uselessly about how many angels could dance on the head of a pin. 

All the while, the infernal forces of tyranny have marched forward, gobbling up the entire structure of American education, the arts, entertainment, and politics. 

The Bible is replete with examples of men and women of what we would call political action. The Apostle Paul insinuated himself in the culture and, by extension, the politics of his time. …

…having arrived at Athens, Paul “disputed” with the Jews in their synagogues and “in the market daily with them that met with him.” (Acts 17:17) The Athens market would have been the equivalent of our public place of discourse. 

That means, if Paul were still walking the face of the earth, you just might see his Twitter feed.

A suit and tie are ennobling things, but they are mere rags if they are a substitute for a monk’s habit. Far too many Christians mistake arrogance for piety and cowardice for meekness.

…..Christendom must rediscover the apostolic formula of prayer, piety, and action or watch liberty devolve into totalitarianism. Loosen your tie, hang up the frock, and become relevant again. 

Christians have lost the culture, in part by lionizing “full-time Christian service.” Anywhere a Christian is called, is his or her place of “full-time Christian service.” There is no inherent virtue in teaching at a Christian school. Virtue lies in obeying the call of God, and what is sorely needed are men and women of faith in the “secular vocations,” impacting culture at its source. A wise man once said that for the Christian, “there is no difference between the sacred and the secular.” 

It’s great knowing you’re on the winning side, but countless battles still rage wherein nations may rise or fall. Quit acting like you’ve won the war when the enemy still rages across the battlefield.

…..Christians possess the most powerful weapon in cultural warfare, The Word of God. But, if you’re not engaged in the culture or in politics, you’ve no standing to complain about lousy results or cultural rot.

[Final judgment STRAIGHT FROM THE WORDS OF CHRIST.]


This is where I am now seeing the need to BRING OUR COMMS INTO THE REAL WORLD.

That means networking – not only with the LIKE-MINDED, but with the WINNABLE – and trusting that GOD will finish the job, using CHRIST and the HOLY SPIRIT OF TRUTH.

The TRUTH we gain here must be SPREAD to the world, and the NEEDS of the world must be brought back here to share among ourselves, and with our readership.

We need to be a reactor of TRUTH that IRRADIATES and ILLUMINATES a cold and dark world.

It’s time to let that radiation and illumination SHINE.

You will see more specifics from me as we move forward.

Our purpose is unchanged, but we WILL be more effective.

LIGHT INTO DARKNESS.

W


NOTE: This piece was written BEFORE Trump announced his 2024 presidential candidacy, and apart from minor editing for style and notation of John Nantz’s background, it remains almost unchanged.

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smiley2

GASLIGHTING

and BLAME-SHIFTING

hallmark tactics of emotional abuse, psychological control/dominance.

most people will usually start to succumb to the gaslighting after seven repititons…The Rule of Seven.

Illusory truth

which is lies.

they are freaking narcissists, psychopaths, sociopaths & sadists running this shitshow.

stand up for THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH and NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.

wave it in their monster faces like a shield.

they hate it.

TradeBait2

^^^ This.

Christians have to participate as much or more in the process of politics than the other side. We have sat back with a somebody else or God will handle it attitude, which is the exact opposite of what He instructs His followers throughout His Word. He said, “Go…”.

We should be at every school board, city and county council, state, etc. meeting or session held in numbers. We should be participating in every election commission and in every district. We should be actually joining the Democrat Party if we can do so clandestinely. We should be all of their events.

We should be calling out evil at every crook and corner of the universe every time we see it. We should be using scripture to do all of it, His words in context with what we observe.

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smiley2

lately I’ve been entertaining the idea that we should just CHEAT BACK…if those are now the rules…then ok….ok…beat em at their own game…play by their rules…

smiley2

you’re totally right, of course…sometimes my frustration level gets the best of me…that devil knows when & how to prey on us at our weakest moments.

it preys but we pray.

Gail Combs

WE CAN ‘LEGALLY’ CHEAT by ALSO using their weapons. DROP BOXES and LEGAL ballot harvesting!

Proven Ballot Harvesting Strategy That Will CRUSH The Dems in 2024!!!

WE use drop boxes and put them in church and gunshop parking lots. We also need to spread the word that their 501c3 status is B.S. and they need to checkout the website:

https://hushmoney.org/
Specifically:
https://hushmoney.org/free-church_solution.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR8IDg185cg

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

It’s interesting that many progs have the same complaints we do, they just put the blame in different places, and have a different suggested solution.

Presented right the MAGA agenda (stripped of all branding) might not die in their house the instant it leaves your mouth.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

THIS is why I have been so combative about “devolution” and variants thereof (like hoping the military will bail us out with a (counter)coup).

It’s too likely to lead to a “somebody else or God will handle it attitude.”

TradeBait2

Yep – it’s hopium IMO. Or delusion.

You don’t let monsters kill people by the millions if you are white hats. You don’t stand by and watch genocide happen and crimes be committed against innocent citizens and government property. It’s never acceptable to have or allow designated collateral damage, because that is what happens in the devolution scenario. Certain people and objects become expendable, acceptable losses to achieve the greater good and objectives.

Nope, not buying it. That’s seems to much like nazis and commies to me.

We are in a war, that I am certain. I just don’t know who fights for which side much of the time.

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Brave and Free

You went there Wolf 🤗.
Saul went along with the narrative of his day, then God slapped him upside the head and Paul realised the true meaning of Christ and acted upon it.
You my friend are doing such a thing.
Hopefully I can do the same as God leads me.
Thank you for bringing this truth to us.

Tonawanda

Well stated!

Gail Combs

Devolution is a THEORY and Jon Harold made his case for that theory.

One thing we have to do is step back and LOOK at the actual situation from the point of view of those trying to defeat the Cabal.

Up until Trump’s election, the Globalist Cabal was chugging along with NO IMPEDIMENT. As General Vallely said:

Since Barack Obama has been in the White House, high ranking military officers have been removed from their positions at a rate that is absolutely unprecedented.Things have gotten so bad that a number of retired generals are publicly speaking out about the ‘purg’ of the U.S. military that they believe is taking place. As you will see below, dozens of highly decorated military leaders have been dismissed from their positions over the past few years. So why is this happening? What is going on right now is absolutely crazy especially during a time of peace. Is there a deliberate attempt to reshape the military and remove those who don’t adhere to the proper ‘viewpoints’ ? Does someone out there feel a need to get officers that won’t cooperate out of the way?

 

Throughout world history, whatever comes next after a military purge is never good.

If this continues, what is the U.S. military going to look like in a few years?…

The White House protects their own.That’s why they stalled on the investigation into fast and furious, Benghazi and Obamacare.He’s intentionally weakening and gutting our military, Pentagon and reducing us as a superpower, and anyone in the ranks who disagrees or speaks out is being purged.

Absolutely every communist regime on the planet did this as soon as they got in power. I am surprised this communist traitor with his feet up on our furniture in the white house hasn’t done this until now!

SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?  I am doing my part…

…..

Obama himself talk about ‘My Military.’ Whatever you think might be happening, it is certainly clear that Obama is looking to change and move things in a different direction.

…..

How much of the Military is now faithful to the Constitution and the American People is not known, but I think, based on the above, The top ranks ARE NOT.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Second, this is AN INFORMATION WAR, and it is a WAR. One where the ENEMY has ALREADY over decades, if not centuries, taken over the USA by stealth.

President Trump was NOT A KING. He had to work within a system that was very corrupted and out to get him. Was Devolution put in place? Maybe. We will never know but it would be a last resort measure and would be working behind the scenes.

I know everyone is really ticked off about the Covid Death Shot however Trump had no real power to stop it, THEY MADE DAMN SURE OF THAT. All he could do is tell us, his base, about HCQ and Ivermectin. And of course the Cabal immediately stepped in to counter it.

IT WAS UP TO US TO RUN WITH IT!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Back to the military.
I do think a part of the military IS activated for us. HOWEVER THE GOAL IS TO MAKE US ADULTS RESPONSIBLE FOR OURSELVES so we can govern ourselves. as Aubergine said:
They Haven’t Suffered Enough… Trump, the Economy, and Generation Z

A quick fix by the military would only be a bump in the road for the Cabal since they are WORLDWIDE. What is needed is a massive awakening and the WILL to CHANGE THE SYSTEM. Anything less will not work in the long run.

Q has said this a number of times:

Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 ID: c7e053 
Jun 13 2020 14:03:17 (EST)

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Only when evil is forced into the light can we defeat it.

Only when they can no longer operate in the [shadows] can people see the truth for themselves.

Only when people see the truth [for themselves] will people understand the true nature of their deception.

Seeing is Believing.

Sometimes you can’t tell the public the truth.

YOU MUST SHOW THEM.

ONLY THEN WILL PEOPLE FIND THE WILL TO CHANGE.

It had to be this way.

This is not another 4-year election.

GOD WINS.

Q

Since I went into the 2016 election season figuring I was about to see the COMPLETE DESTRUCTION of a FREE SOVEREIGN USA by means of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, I am happy to see we are at LONG LAST FIGHTING.

The Trans-Pacific Partnership would allow an international Tribunal to TRUMP THE US SUPREME COURT. The Trans-Pacific Partnership says ANY treaty signed by the USA is covered and gives enforcement to treaties that up until now had no teeth to force compliance. The Trans-Pacific Partnership would provide the teeth. Remember international law sees no difference between an executive agreement, a congressional agreement or an actual Constitutional treaty. This means all those treaties that Obummer had signed, like the UN small arms treaty, all of a sudden could be enforced by an international tribunal with no regard to the US Constitution, Supreme Court or international sovereignty.

Pacific Partnership Synopsis – FROM THE US GOVERNMENT

This treaty literally strips the USA of sovereignty and allows totalitarian rule by Corporations and bureaucrats with a bit of help from NGOs to add a veneer of ‘democracy.’

Deplorable Patriot

I’m going to dissent on this.

First off, Christianity practiced as passed down for 2,000 years, is, by its nature, counter-cultural to the world. We Christians must present to the world the appeal of the Faith first and foremost. THAT is how we attract the apostates.

Second – and this is where the rubber meets the road – Christians in all walks of life, public and not, are called to bring the values and teachings of Christ to the table where ever we find ourselves. Many of our “Christian” politicians do not do that.

In fact, in all walks of life, many Christians in name only do not do that. Compromise on teachings for all branches of Christianity have taken their toll.

Frankly, the trouble begins with the lack of solid Christian teaching from the pulpits, and a misplaced compassion for the human condition. We always should be compassionate, but not at the expense of breaking law, God’s and man’s.

I don’t know that blaming Christians and Christianity for a lack of participation in politics is the answer. It’s more like not bringing Christian values to the table is the problem. Too much “separation of Church and state.” All that meant was that there would not be a single state religion.

Linda

Amen, DP!

TradeBait2

The Great Commission – Matt. 28:19. “Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.

It takes words as well as actions. We are failing as Christians to do that adequately. Less and less people are identifying as Christian in America, much less actually living the life. When we live as the non-believers live and do not stand up for Kingdom values and teachings in all of our dealings, we are not following the commandment.

So yes, in my view, we share blame with the criminals who are violating the law. I believe in the individual priesthood of every believer and with it comes the responsibility of following the commands of Jesus without regard to what comes from any pulpits.

Deplorable Patriot

Those were orders to the first group of bishops, actually.

And, yeah, I do place a good portion of “blame” on clergy who fail to catechize the flock.

Deplorable Patriot

And the other thing, and this is a personal tidbit, I refuse to share blame for things others are responsible for. This is on a visceral level after a number of incidents in my past. I’m not the one breaking the law.

WSB

Watching Tucker on his town hall….whoah.

WSB

I dunno what I just saw, but Portenoy ( I think? Gambler? ) was on. It was the funniest thing. Portenoy was not even truthful, yet he and Tucker had the funniest interview I have ever seen about FTX.

Maybe someone can capture the clip…

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BillBeakman

Mark 4:21
And he said unto them, is a candle brought to be put under a bushel, or under a bed? and not to be set on a candlestick?

What is the Lord saying with this aphorism?
One thought is the illumination is available but not without wise action…
The challenge is to find a way to bring His truth to life without becoming engulfed by the evils of the world. I think the author may underestimate the hidden fear that this represents…how to contend with evil without being overcome by it and we all know that we’re seeing evil demonstrated in politics like no other time in our lives.
Being a motivated Christian is not for the feint hearted…but still, we’re all God’s children…courageous or like sheep we’re all of His flock.
I get the impression that the author is looking for an unexploited constituency…Not sure he can pin one down. Good for him for trying.
..

cthulhu

Growing up in earthquake country with a Civil Engineer as a parent, I always looked at this as something akin to a safety code. If you put your candle under a bushel, you’re going to burn your house down. With lemons. Some engineers will develop combustible lemons to burn your house down.

BillBeakman

No hand made scale engines operating under your bed either!

Gail Combs

Christians are responsible?

HOW ABOUT JFK’s MURDERER — Senator Johnson?

Johnson placed an UNCONSTITUTIONAL muzzle on Churches:
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501c3 MYTHS

[QUOTE]

  1. A  church or church ministry must be 501c3 in order to avoid paying taxes.
  2.  A church or church ministry must be 501c3 in order to be tax deductible.
  3. Churches should comply with all the laws of the land because Jesus said, “Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s” (Mr 12:17). Therefore, it is only right for a church to become a 501c3.
  4. Being a 501c3 helps to legitimize a church in the eyes of the world. After all, Paul said, “Providing for honest things, not only in the sight of the Lord, but also in the sight of men.” (2Co 8:21)

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…..The IRS has acknowledged for decades that it is completely unnecessary for any church to apply for a tax-exempt status. According to IRS Publication 557, as well as IRS Code § 508, churches and church ministries are “exempt automatically.” Application for an exempt status is not only superfluous, but to do so subordinates that church to the IRS. Churches in America have always been nontaxable anyway. It simply makes no sense for a church to go to the IRS and seek permission to be exempted from a tax the government can’t impose in the first place…..

[UNQUOTE]

What does 501c3 do?

𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗜𝗥𝗦 𝗵𝗮𝘀 𝘀𝘂𝗰𝗰𝗲𝗲𝗱𝗲𝗱 𝗶𝗻 𝗴𝗮𝗴𝗴𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗖𝗵𝗿𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗶𝗮𝗻𝘀.”
[QUOTE}
Rev. D. James Kennedy has stated:

“The federal government has proved a tremendous impediment to the ongoing work of Christians. In all the laws that they have passed against Christian schools, gagging the church, taxation, and all kinds of things that they have done, they have made it harder for the church to exercise its prerogatives and to preach the gospel.

 

“Take the last presidential election. There were numbers of things that I knew that I was never able to say from the pulpit because if you advance the cause of one candidate or impede the cause of the other you can lose your tax exemption. That would have been disastrous not only for the church, but for our school and our seminary, everything. So you are gagged. You cannot do that. The IRS, a branch of our government, has succeeded in gagging Christians.

Is there a remedy? Yes! The church can be re-empowered and regain the former glory and influence she once held in America. But in order to do so the church must stop acting as an underling, as a subordinate, as a dependent, of the State. The church must cease asking for State favors….
[UNQUOTE]

WSB

OMG…this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Aubergine

One important thing I think we have to do is make them look at our lives with pure envy.

Is your life an outward example of a life others would truly want for themselves?

Do you project an image of happiness, contentment, and serenity?

Or do you complain all the time that your life sucks?

How do we convince others that our way is the best way, if all we do is whine and complain about it? Have you ever heard an Amish person bitching about how the Amish way of life just blows?

Make your life a shining example of how faithful adherence to values makes a beautiful life, and spread that example around as much as you can. Make the bitter, sad, uninspired left ENVY the lives we live. And if they won’t come around to happiness, shun them from yours and let them baste in the sour juices of their misery.

Part of the conservatives problem is that we don’t band together as a cohesive unit and EXCLUDE them. They do that to us, but we don’t care, because the way they live is pure shit. But if we closed ranks and made our lives as wonderful as they should be, the left would all be clamoring to be “let in” to the party. Because it would be warm and light and peaceful and beautiful.

But we don’t do that. We judge and bicker amongst ourselves about “which” Christianity is the “right” one, about whether atheists have morals we can accept, about “what would Jesus do?”, even though no one knows, unless the precise situation Jesus was in is recounted in the Bible.

We need a plan, not for politics, but for how to make a life for the whole lot of us conservatives. With walls and bastions and precepts, that we can hold up and say “you can live this wonderful life, but here are the rules.”

Aubergine

Think Sundance might have read my comment, lol?

“Our nation needs more people like you, right now. Don’t wait… engage life, get optimistic however you need to do it. Then let that part of you shine right now… This is how we fight. Hold up that flag; give the starter smile… rally to the standard you create and spread fellowship again.”

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/11/18/knock-it-off-get-up-get-back-on-your-feet-you-are-the-one-they-cant-beat-and-you-know-it/#more-239999