This DePat Tuesday Open Thread honors the author of the original Tuesday open thread on this site, namely the late Susie Sampson, a.k.a. Deplorable Patriot, among her other handles, pen names, etc.
For more on the untimely passing of Dear DePat, please see these three posts.
At one time, DePat handled FOUR daily open threads here, in addition to taking care of her relatives, choir duties, and numerous other responsibilities. She was a powerhouse – a dynamo – a true force of nature.
DePat’s faith in Trump, Q, “The Plan”, the White Hats, and “the anons” in general, was legendary. Although I didn’t always agree with her quick acceptance of some sketchier evidence and fringier theories, I will gladly admit to “coming around” to numerous so-called “conspiracy theories” which she championed first. I was always careful to give her credit for being right, too, when I had been wrong.
It is impossible to overstate how much DePat did for not only this site, but for her country. I urge all to say a quick prayer of thanks, whenever you think of her, for the privilege of knowing, in life or after death, such an exemplary human being, and lover of God.
And thank you, Susie, for the firm foundation which you left us, when you were called to your true home!
Is There Another Cell Nucleus Hall Pass in the New mRNA Flu Vaccine, mFlusiva?
Let’s start off with some history.
Are you aware of the fact that both the Moderna AND the Pfizer COVID vaccines contained a genetic sequence that acts like a “hall pass” or “VIP ticket”, allowing the holder to get into the nucleus of human cells?
Here is a post where I explained this.
Were it not for somebody dropping a link to an obscure paper in my Twitter timeline back in early 2023, I would have never realized how extra sketchy that made both the virus and the vaccines – and especially the latter, since it would have been theoretically possible to remove the nuclear hall pass from the spike protein used as the vaccine.
Let me repeat that. They left the “hall pass” in the mRNA code for the vaccine.
But – and I have to stress this – it was not just that this “hall pass” was there. No. It was much worse. The paper in question was experimental, and it showed that the viral spike protein not only contained the hall pass, but that it WORKED. The hall pass actually worked to get the spike protein into the nucleus. They even had PICTURES of it in the nucleus.
LINK: https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/microbiology/articles/10.3389/fmicb.2023.1073789/full
BUT WAIT! THERE’S MORE!
The hall pass not only got the spike protein into the nucleus – the spike protein THEN got the mRNA that coded for it into the nucleus, as well.
Yes. You are reading that correctly. The spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 has a known sequence in it that ends up getting both IT and the mRNA that created it, into the cell nucleus.
One would THINK that this might be a big deal. Especially after we were REASSURED that NO, VIRGINIA – THE mRNA WILL NEVER, EVER GET INTO THE CELL NUCLEUS, YOU FOOLISH VACCINE SKEPTICS.
Are you seeing why this is kind of a big deal?
SO – NOW – my question about the new mRNA flu shot is similar.
I could ask whether the flu vaccine’s “spike protein” (it’s called a “hemagglutinin glycoprotein”) also has a hall pass that gets it into the cell nucleus. I could even ask if the influenza HA glycoprotein also “escorts” its own mRNA into the nucleus, as does the COVID spike protein.
However, that requires experimentation. I can’t do that work.
OK – can I just ask if the mRNA flu shots contain the hall pass into the nucleus?
Well, it turns out that you can ask, but there’s not necessarily an answer.
I could not find the answer, so I asked Grok.
And I asked Grok a slightly less pointed version of the question, since I am perfectly capable of checking for nuclear translocation sequences myself, so that Grok would not detect “conspiracy theory thinking” on my part, and thereby not consign my question to the “talk down to this human” conga line of incomplete answers.
LINK: https://x.com/i/grok?conversation=2088464094655385678
Q: Is there a published mRNA sequence for the new mRNA flu vaccine, mFlusiva, from Moderna?
A: (from Grok)
No, there does not appear to be a publicly published full mRNA (nucleotide) sequence for Moderna’s mFlusiva (mRNA-1010).
mFlusiva is the FDA-approved (as of early August 2026) trivalent mRNA influenza vaccine for adults 50+ (traditional approval for ages 50–64; accelerated for 65+). Each 0.38 mL dose contains 37.5 µg total mRNA (12.5 µg each of three RNAs) encoding the full-length hemagglutinin (HA) glycoproteins of the season’s recommended strains (for the 2026–2027 formula: A/Missouri/11/2025 (H1N1)pdm09-like, A/Michigan/105/2025 [A/Darwin/1415/2025 (H3N2)-like], and B/Pennsylvania/19/2025 [B/Pennsylvania/14/2025-like]), formulated in lipid nanoparticles (SM-102, PEG2000-DMG, cholesterol, DSPC).
Public documents (prescribing information/DailyMed, FDA briefing documents and clinical review, Moderna product pages, and peer-reviewed trial publications) describe the composition, encoded antigens/strains, manufacturing process (in vitro transcription, no cells/eggs), and clinical data, but they do not disclose the actual nucleotide sequences of the mRNAs. These would include codon optimization, specific 5′/3′ UTRs, poly(A) tail, nucleoside modifications (typically N1-methylpseudouridine, as used in Moderna’s platform), and any stabilizing mutations (noted for the influenza B HA in non-surface-exposed regions).
- The underlying viral HA amino-acid (or genomic) sequences of the recommended strains are publicly available via databases such as GISAID or NCBI, as with any seasonal flu vaccine components.
- Moderna and related patents/publications disclose example or earlier-generation influenza mRNA constructs, sequences for other candidates, or general platform elements (e.g., UTRs used in some Moderna mRNAs), but not the proprietary, strain-updated commercial sequences for the approved mFlusiva product. patents.google.com
- This is consistent with how proprietary vaccine sequences (including prior Moderna mRNA products) are typically handled—they are not routinely released in full in labeling or regulatory summaries.
In short, while the antigens, doses, and high-level design are public, the exact published mRNA sequence for mFlusiva is not available. Any claims of a full sequence circulating would need independent verification against primary sources.
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First of all, just for the record, this is a great answer. Once again, thank you, Elon!
This situation seems a bit different from small-molecule drugs, where the exact molecules in the drug MUST be described in full, not only to the FDA, but to the public. Probably a feature that big pharma will eventually pay government to remove, but until then, something that certainly cramps their style.
Now, I was able to track things down a bit, and get CLOSE to the actual sequence for the vaccine, but I have been unable to find the exact sequence.
Here is what I did find.
(1) Link to full prescribing information.
(2) Information about ingredients
| MFLUSIVA influenza vaccine, mrna injection, suspension |
| Product Information Product Type VACCINE Item Code (Source) NDC:80777-500 Route of Administration INTRAMUSCULAR |
| Active Ingredient/Active Moiety Ingredient Name Basis of Strength Strength RNA-101-BFL3 (UNII: FPY755GU6Z) (RNA-101-BFL3 – UNII:FPY755GU6Z) RNA-101-BFL3 12.5 ug in 0.38 mL RNA-101-BFL6 (UNII: G35CN36JAP) (RNA-101-BFL6 – UNII:G35CN36JAP) RNA-101-BFL6 12.5 ug in 0.38 mL RNA-101-BFL5 (UNII: WAH8KM77XC) (RNA-101-BFL5 – UNII:WAH8KM77XC) RNA-101-BFL5 12.5 ug in 0.38 mL |
| Inactive Ingredients Ingredient Name Strength SM-102 (UNII: T7OBQ65G2I) 1,2-DIMYRISTOYL-RAC-GLYCERO-3-METHOXYPOLYETHYLENE GLYCOL 2000 (UNII: 9X2596CIE0) CHOLESTEROL (UNII: 97C5T2UQ7J) 1,2-DISTEAROYL-SN-GLYCERO-3-PHOSPHOCHOLINE (UNII: 043IPI2M0K) TROMETHAMINE (UNII: 023C2WHX2V) TROMETHAMINE HYDROCHLORIDE (UNII: 383V75M34E) SUCROSE (UNII: C151H8M554) WATER (UNII: 059QF0KO0R) |
(3) Selected information about mRNA ingredients
RNA-101-BFL3 (UNII: FPY755GU6Z)
RNA-101-BFL6 (UNII: G35CN36JAP)
RNA-101-BFL5 (UNII: WAH8KM77XC)
(4) UNII codes
FPY755GU6Z
G35CN36JAP
WAH8KM77XC
(5) Look up UNII codes
Website: https://precision.fda.gov/uniisearch
Results:
https://precision.fda.gov/uniisearch/srs/unii/FPY755GU6Z
https://precision.fda.gov/uniisearch/srs/unii/G35CN36JAP
https://precision.fda.gov/uniisearch/srs/unii/WAH8KM77XC
(6) CAS Registry Numbers and CAS Names
(a)
3115056-86-2
RNA (recombinant 5′-(m7G-(5′→5′)-ppp-Gm)-capped all uridine→N1-methylpseudouridine-substituted influenza A (Missouri/11/2025 (A/H1N1))-like virus hemagglutinin codon-optimized transgene plus 5′- and 3′-untranslated flanking region-containing poly(A)-tailed messenger RNA-101-BFL3), inner salt
(b)
3115056-85-1
RNA (recombinant 5′-(m7G-(5′→5′)-ppp-Gm)-capped all uridine→N1-methylpseudouridine-substituted influenza A (Michigan/105/2025 (A/H3N2))-like virus hemagglutinin codon-optimized transgene plus 5′- and 3′-untranslated flanking region-containing poly(A)-tailed messenger RNA-101-BFL5), inner salt
(c)
3118110-32-7
RNA (recombinant 5′-(m7G-(5′→5′)-ppp-Gm)-capped all uridine→N1-methylpseudouridine-substituted influenza B/Victoria Pennsylvania/19/2025-like virus hemagglutinin [288-valine,381-tyrosine] codon-optimized transgene plus 5′- and 3′-untranslated flanking region-containing poly(A)-tailed messenger RNA-101-BFL6), inner salt
That is as far as I could go. Registry numbers and names. Trying to look up the CAS registry numbers failed.
CAS Common Chemistry covers – well – common chemicals, including some surprisingly unusual ones, but it clearly doesn’t cover everything. For a lot of molecules – ones that are not “public figures” – one has to get behind the paywall by buying a product like SciFinder.
For example, CAS Common Chemistry has a page for one of the allegedly inactive substances in the vaccine – tromethamine.
LINK: https://commonchemistry.cas.org/detail?cas_rn=77-86-1&search=tromethamine
SIDEBAR: I’ll do a whole post about tromethamine later – it’s one of the best and most hilarious demonstrations of the (to borrow Scott’s verbiage) “weak, fake and gay” duplicity of the pharma-government-fincorp-media complex that I’ve ever seen. I’m personally glad they smartly added this compound to the clot shot, but to lie about why they did it – just so WEAK, FAKE AND GAY!
It is possible that the three names we retrieved above would allow trained biochemists to get very close to the actual sequences that were used, but in reality, to get the full, exact composition, including DNA contamination, we will almost certainly have to wait for independent researchers to analyze and sequence vials of the mFlusiva vaccine.
SO – in answer to the original question, we won’t truly know if there is either a public or secret access code to the cell nucleus in this vaccine, until somebody in free science actually analyzes the sequence of the vaccine, and somebody else actually checks and sees if the protein and/or the mRNA gets trafficked into the nucleus.
To borrow a saying from Nancy Pelosi, “We have to inject it, to find out what’s in it.”
Honestly, I think if Thomas Jefferson saw what patents have done to science, he would pull the whole idea up by the roots and figure out some other way to implement it. What that something else is, I don’t know. But what we have now is clearly problematic.
W
And remember…….
Until victory, have faith!
And trust the big plan, too!
And as always….
ENJOY THE SHOW
W
