“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
— LaughLoveLive, identifies as Deplorable Patriot 🐞 (@LaughLoveLive1) September 18, 2020
Heck, let’s make it even easier!
OK – that’s enough. BTW, this story is disturbingly analogous to certain events in my life. Wolf thus highly approves. Interesting universe. And that’s all I’m sayin’.
We’re keeping it short because I don’t want to be messed with.
The Big Deal for this Daily Open Topic is Li-Meng Yan’s paper published on 9/14/20, as seen on ZeroHedge.
Here is how most people saw it – on ZeroHedge…..
I got in a few comments about this stuff before she was kicked off Twitter by Chinazi minion Jackboot.
THE KICK-OFF….
Twitter Suspends Account Of Chinese Scientist Who Published Paper Alleging Covid Was Created In Wuhan Lab | Zero Hedge- she is on @TuckerCarlson tonight! https://t.co/lonRJoM4lP
This is good science. Many of the earlier opinions like the French Nobel recipient were clearly seeing the same general issues, but failed to articulate the specific reasons why alternatives don't make as much sense. POWERFUL.
Here is a special lesson. Read this review of a paper that just came out today – even if you don't understand it fully. A Hong Kong virologist explains the lab origins of #COVID19. Understand – CCP's "science of influencing science" is JUST AS ADVANCED.https://t.co/uThNczCGu3
Then a longer series of posts, in which a friend reminds me of Montagnier’s work…..
Paper explaining likely "lab evolution" (a wonderful inevitability of DNA intelligence, but I digress) of #COVID19 coronavirus. PDF includes information featured in the @zerohedge article. All scientists and logicians will want to read this – a beautiful example of reason. https://t.co/4gWLDCibkb
Prior opinions on this topic skipped over finer arguments, perhaps understandably for several reasons, but their more general arguments were easily countered by those with "agenda skepticism" and CCP-backed media support. The very specific points here are difficult to counter.
Please note that I was convinced by Montagnier's work already that #COVID19 was likely chimeric. In a 1970's science world, most scientists would have agreed. However, today's CCP political influence of the media and science make Yan's more meticulous arguments necessary, IMO.
Montagnier openly addressed the idea of HIV having been some kind of inspiration, both generally and specifically, of the likely chimeric virus. @LiMengYAN119 was careful to avoid this, and I think that was wise, because (1) it's too assumptive, and (2) it risks discreditation.
To me, Montagnier's HIV perspective and Yan's strict coronavirus perspective are much like my own "contemporary history of science" perspective – we all bring our own personal viewpoint strengths of analysis, but likewise limitations, to the new paradigm of free crowd science.
But things get worse, because it’s clear now that the ChiNazis used every effort to make us lock down and damage the economy as badly as possible using their China Virus.
Just look at this Orwellian false choice that the nation-damaging socialist Hillary Clinton posits. She has NOT answered for her HOAX yet, as she tries to push another one on the next election. Twitter, Facebook, and Google will be JUDGED on whether they follow her in CRIME. pic.twitter.com/Rndpaft3CY
The CHOICE is NOW. @Google, @Twitter and @Facebook have time to decide – do they want to be complicit in ANOTHER HISTORIC CRIME?
They know in their hearts – this is a FALSE CHOICE, as THEY THEMSELVES are used as TOOLS to affect the election – to HIDE TRUTH from WE THE PEOPLE. https://t.co/Br0V5wP2eD
This is NOT like the last time, when we SAW THE CRIMES of the social media companies after the fact. We see them choosing once again NOW. These companies have been spared due justice – they have ONE chance to redeem themselves, or go down with the criminals.
This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KMAG/KAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).
Yes, it’s Monday…again.
But it’s okay! We’ll get through it.
Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. But please keep it civil.
Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.
lease also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.
Our President is fighting for us night and day…please pray for him.
Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition from Elephant Music, titled ‘Density of Silence’:
This FRIDAY THE [Q-13]TH of SEPTEMBER open thread is OPEN – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the OLD January 1st , 2019 open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
ON PRAYER
My old ask to PRAY FOR THE PRESIDENT was getting stale, so – important as it is to CONSTANTLY pray for President Trump, it’s…..
TIME FOR NEW
This time, I’m going to ask you to
PRAY FOR TRUTH
We pray for a lot of things, but at this critical time, we need to add some focus on Commandments other than just the “Top Two“. We know what the top two are – Loving God and Loving Our Neighbor – but what Satan and Marxism have done to fool ALL monotheists is to make us not pay attention to the rest of the Commandments, and in particular a VERY, VERY fundamental one – Loving Truth. We have to be rigorous about this in a way that – in my opinion – rescues and unites all believers in God at a very fundamental level.
Loving Truth is not easy, and sometimes painful, and sometimes it even seems to threaten our Belief in God itself, but I say and firmly believe that TRUST IN GOD will carry us through those moments of doubt, to greater understanding, wisdom, and FAITH.
So I simply ask for us all to Pray for Truth, as an act of shoring up ALL AREAS where we are under attack.
Pay attention to the FUNDAMENTALS, and the COMPLEXITIES will all work out.
https://youtu.be/jQynfu48sNw
What’s wrong with being a fundamentalist on fundamentals?
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Q Drop 4634 – China and Pedo
Take a look at this Q drop…..
4634 Link to New Q Drop Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 2 Sep 2020 – 12:57:19 PM
Why did it take a political outsider to [finally] confront China? Q
Q Drop 4634
Note the placement of this Q drop – the FINAL DROP of a stream of drops – very tight in their timestamps, as follows (after the first one listed, for context):
4629 – 11:46:30 AM
4630 – 12:53:16 PM
4631 – 12:53:46 PM
4632 – 12:54:50 PM
4633 – 12:55:11 PM
4634 – 12:57:19 PM
And then they just stop.
Why?
In my opinion, the ANSWER to 4634 is very likely the drops 4630 through 4633.
What are those drops?
HERE YOU GO – in ONE BLOCK – FOUR DROPS….
How is blackmail used? Democratic Illinois State Representative, Keith Farnham, has resigned and was charged with possession of child pornography and has been accused of bragging at an online site about sexually molesting a 6-year-old girl. Democratic spokesperson for the Arkansas Democratic Party, Harold Moody, Jr, was charged with distribution and possession of child pornography. Democratic Radnor Township Board of Commissioners member, Philip Ahr, resigned from his position after being charged with possession of child pornography and abusing children between 2 and 6 years-old. Democratic activist and BLM organizer, Charles Wade, was arrested and charged with human trafficking and underage prostitution. Democratic Texas attorney and activist, Mark Benavides, was charged with having sex with a minor, inducing a child under 18 to have sex and compelling prostitution of at least nine legal clients and possession of child pornography. He was found guilty on six counts of sex trafficking. Democratic Virginia Delegate, Joe Morrissey, was indicted on charges connected to his relationship with a 17-year-old girl and was charged with supervisory indecent liberties with a minor, electronic solicitation of a minor, possession of child pornography and distribution of child pornography. Democratic Massachusetts Congressman, Gerry Studds, was censured by the House of Representatives after he admitted to an inappropriate relationship with a 17-year-old page. Democratic Former Mayor of Stillwater, New York, Rick Nelson was plead guilty to five counts of possession of child pornography of children less than 16 years of age. Democratic Former Mayor of Clayton, New York, Dale Kenyon, was indicted for sexual acts against a teenager. Democratic Former Mayor of Hubbard, Ohio, Richard Keenan, was given a life sentence in jail for raping a 4-year-old girl. Democratic Former Mayor of Winston, Oregeon, Kenneth Barrett, was arrested for setting up a meeting to have sex with a 14-year-old girl who turned out to be a police officer. Democratic Former Mayor of Randolph, Nebraska, Dwayne L. Schutt, was arrested and charged with four counts of felony third-degree sexual assault of a child and one count of intentional child abuse. Democratic Former Mayor of Dawson, Georgia, Christopher Wright, was indicted on the charges of aggravated child molestation, aggravated sodomy, rape, child molestation and statutory rape of an 11-year-old boy and a 12-year-old girl. Democratic Former Mayor of Stockton, California, Anthony Silva, was charged with providing alcohol to young adults during a game of strip poker that included a 16-year-old boy at a camp for underprivileged children run by the mayor. Democratic Former Mayor of Millbrook, New York, Donald Briggs, was arrested and charged with inappropriate sexual contact with a person younger than 17. Democratic party leader for Victoria County, Texas, Stephen Jabbour, plead guilty to possession and receiving over half a million child pornographic images. Democratic activist and fundraiser, Terrence Bean, was arrested on charges of sodomy and sex abuse in a case involving a 15-year-old boy and when the alleged victim declined to testify, and the judge dismissed the case. Democratic Party Chairman for Davidson County, Tennessee, Rodney Mullin, resigned amid child pornography allegations. Democratic activist, Andrew Douglas Reed, pleaded guilty to a multiple counts of 2nd-degree sexual exploitation of a minor for producing child pornography. Democratic official from Terre Haute, Indiana, David Roberts was sentenced to federal prison for producing and possessing child pornography including placing hidden cameras in the bedrooms and bathrooms at a home he shared with two minor female victims. Democratic California Congressman, Tony Cárdenas, is being sued in LA County for allegedly sexually abused a 16-year-old girl. Democratic aide to Senator Barbara Boxer, Jeff Rosato, plead guilty to charges of trading in child pornography. Democratic Alaskan State Representative, Dean Westlake, resigned from his seat after the media published a report alleging he fathered a child with a 16-year-old girl when he was 28. Democratic New Jersey State Assemblyman, Neil Cohen, was convicted of possession and distribution of child pornography. Republican Tim Nolan, chairman of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign in Kentucky, pled guilty to child sex trafficking and on February 11, 2018 he was sentenced to serve 20 years in prison. Republican state Senator Ralph Shortey was indicted on four counts of human trafficking and child pornography. In November 2017, he pleaded guilty to one count of child sex trafficking in exchange for the dropping of the other charges. Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida. Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison. Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation. Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor. Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17. Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls. Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl. Republican Senator Strom Thurmond, a notable racist, had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child. Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile. Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl. Republican Congressman Donald “Buz” Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail. Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos. Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children. Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child. Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page. Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter. Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar. Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped. Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. “Republican Marty”), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD. Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography. Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media. Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him. Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.Republican anti-gay activist Earl “Butch” Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting h
er. Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison. Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl. Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy. Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children). Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was charged with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl. Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child. Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters. Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl. Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy. Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison. Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000. Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession. Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet. Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a “good military man” and “church goer,” was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison. Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter. Republican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison. Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women. Democratic donor and billionaire, Jeffrey Epstein, ran an underage child sex brothel and was convicted of soliciting underage girls for prostitution. Democratic New York Congressman, Anthony Weiner, plead guilty to transferring obscene material to a minor as part of a plea agreement for sexted and sending Twitter DMs to underage girls as young as 15. Democratic donor, activist, and Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein is being criminally prosecuted and civilly sued for years of sexual abuse (that was well known “secret” in Hollywood) including underage sexual activities with aspiring female actresses. Democratic activist and #metoo proponent, Asia Argento, settled a lawsuit for sexual harassment stemming from sexual activities with an underage actor. Democratic Mayor of Racine, Wisconsin, Gary Becker, was convicted of attempted child seduction, child pornography, and other child sex crimes. Democratic Seattle Mayor Ed Murray resigned after multiple accusations of child sexual abuse were levied against him including by family members. Democratic activist and aid to NYC Mayor De Blasio, Jacob Schwartz was arrested on possession of 3,000+ child pornographic images. Democratic activist and actor, Russell Simmons, was sued based on an allegation of sexual assault where he coerced an underage model for sex. Democratic Governor of Oregon, Neil Goldschmidt, after being caught by a newspaper, publicly admitted to having a past sexual relationship with a 13-year-old girl after the statute of limitations on the rape charges had expired. Democratic Illinois Congressman, Mel Reynolds resigned from Congress after he was convicted of statutory rape of a 16-year-old campaign volunteer. Democratic New York Congressman, Fred Richmond, was arrested in Washington D.C. for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old boy. Democratic activist, donor, and director, Roman Polanski, fled the country after pleading guilty to statutory rape of a 13-year-old girl. Democrats and Hollywood actors still defend him to this day, including, Whoopi Goldberg, Martin Scorcese, Woody Allen, David Lynch, Wim Wenders, Pedro Almodovar, Tilda Swinton and Monica Bellucci. Democratic State Senator from Alaska, George Jacko, was found guilty of sexual harassment of an underage legislative page. Democratic State Representative candidate for Colorado, Andrew Myers, was convicted for possession of child pornography and enticing children. Democratic Illinois Congressman, Gus Savage was investigated by the Democrat-controlled House Committee on Ethics for attempting to rape an underage female Peace Corps volunteer in Zaire. The Committee concluded that while the events did occur his apology was sufficient and took no further action. Democratic activist, donor, and spokesperson for Subway, Jared Fogle, was convicted of distribution and receipt of child pornography and traveling to engage in illicit sexual conduct with a minor. Democratic State Department official, Carl Carey, under Hillary Clinton’s state department, was arrested on ten counts of child porn possession. Democratic Maine Assistant Attorney General, James Cameron, was sentenced to just over 15 years in federal prison for seven counts of child porn possession, receipt and transmission. Democratic State Department official, Daniel Rosen, under Hillary Clinton’s state department, was arrested and charged with allegedly soliciting sex from a minor over the internet. Democratic State Department official, James Cafferty, pleaded guilty to one count of transportation of child pornography. Democratic radio host, Bernie Ward, plead guilty to one count of sending child pornography over the Internet.Democratic deputy attorney general from California, Raymond Liddy, was arrested for possession of child pornography. Q
It seems to me that Q is saying China manipulated everybody by BLACKMAIL – primarily PEDO.
I do not have any problem believing this. In fact, I believe that China or their American allies tried to set me up in some kind of phony pedo entrapment, which my MOTHER actually spotted.
It was very ingenious, too. And I believe that others who I worked with were entrapped by blackmail – or were subject to it, if “ever needed”. One of my coworkers believed that ONLY people with blackmail exposure were getting into management in their division. How does THAT happen?
Interesting times.
Second GuginoGate Teaser
Yes. It’s ALMOST HERE – my epic GuginoGate article. I had let it sit in my Drafts folder for over two months, and suddenly a NEW SHADOWGATE PIECE APPEARED.
This sucker covers an amazing Twitter thread, which really puts GuginoGate in a BROADER CONTEXT, namely as a ShadowNet #IIA operation….
REALITY HACKING
Stay tuned for more. My article puts a very sharp point on what went on during the Gugino hoax.
Letting Progzi Insanity Burn Itself Out
Oh, don’t think that NOVEMBER FOURTH – FREEDOM DAY won’t be a HOLIDAY, because it WILL BE, as communist Democrats are voted out all over this land, despite every trick they have used or will use, to try to prevent it.
But how do we get there, and THWART the communist plan? The communist plan that NEEDS TRUMP to try to “rescue” Progzi creeps from their own mistakes?
I just read a FASCINATING article, while looking for the latest “MSS” (mainstream science) positions on COVID-19. Normally, I get a lot of good “mainstream” vaccine information from Chemical and Engineering News, a.k.a. C&EN. It is almost all “industry position”, although SOME of the reporters are willing to “go there” on TOUCHY SUBJECTS, like publicly admitted vaccine downsides and difficulties. You want to know the science challenges and trial side-effects? THOSE are the reporters to trust. Other reporters are reliable shills for leftist or industry “most favorable” positions. You know what I mean – “Orange Man Drug (hydroxychloroquine) Bad” and “Fauci Drug (remdesivir) Good!”
So who says SCIENCE isn’t as much of a contact sport as POLITICS? Trust me – science – behind all the pretense of objectivity – is a swirling mass of variably checked BIASES and HIDDEN AGENDAS, now excruciatingly political because of socialist embeds. Science needs TRUTH, SUNSHINE and WORKAROUND COMMS (such as the internet) like a malaria patient needs ANTIMALARIALS.
So – I checked out the August 31 issue of this rag, and what did I find?
OMG, this is an awesome article. And I mean that in TWO WAYS.
First, it’s an awesome article in terms of educating the rubes about the way science SHOULD BE on viruses. If you want to know the way viruses NATURALLY move between species, and the “open science” [HA! Sounds quite “Soros”] phony version which “pretends not to know” about biological warfare, then this is your MAMET-COMPLIANT article. It pretends not to know all the bad stuff, and it pretends excruciatingly well.
But second, as a READABLE COVER-UP of all the ways science IS but SHOULD NOT BE, it’s even better.
This article reminds me of Kinzer’s book on MKULTRA, where Kinzer denigrates and discredits every aspect of Sidney Gottlieb’s FANTASTIC program of highly directed scientific investigation, but in the process manages to give away the fact that Sidney Gottlieb ran a FANTASTIC program of highly directed scientific investigation.
The bottom line is that you really need to know the ACCEPTED science before you can begin to talk about the HIDDEN science. For that reason, it’s very helpful to read this article, simply to learn about how viruses normally move – or TRY to move – between species.
However, it’s even BETTER to read this article with prior knowledge of what is being left out, already in your mind.
For me, reading this article CEMENTS everything that Judy Mikovits has been saying about viruses. Yes – the “crank lady” just gets major back-up from this article.
Now, the way that happens is subtle. But if you know Judy’s “conspiracy theory” bullet points, then the SOLID and AGREED foundation of mutually accepted science just makes them plausible as all hell. It is almost impossible for her points to NOT be true.
THESE “conspiracy theory bullet points”, in particular, get a lot of lift from this article.
laboratory-induced zoonotic jumps by forced evolution are a thing, and they work
virus “junk” is everywhere, and what it’s doing can be LONG, SLOW, and NOT VERY NICE
Let’s look at these.
This article mentions absolutely nothing about “viral domestication in human cells“, but it doesn’t have to. If you’ve ever read much of what Judy Mikovits has talked about, then you’ve run into the idea that…..
“testing really hard to make sure that human cells can’t be infected by a virus”,
….. and …..
“trying to make a virus take in human cells”
are basically THE SAME THING – thanks to evolution.
This is a critical idea – that there is little difference between investigating a potential zoonotic jump and helping it along. If we are not honest about what we are doing here, then we are doomed to a future of “designer disease as a geopolitical weapon, giving advantage to the most devious and back-stabbing players”.
The bottom line is that “playing with fire” is “playing with fire”, no matter how one dresses up the proposition. You can be honest about it, or you can lie by omission and Mamet-compliant blindness, in which case people will stop trusting you.
So – READ THIS ARTICLE with that thinking in mind. There is a kind of willful ignorance here which SERVES THE CCP.
Look for a familiar name – look how it is referenced – SEE THE BLINDNESS.
Now – the next point.
An extremely relevant point in this article is that viruses can INFECT but not necessarily reproduce. This begins to BREAK your likely binary thinking about what viruses do – that they either infect you or they don’t. And you need to break this thinking more broadly. Viruses are a continuum in many dimensions.
Combine all that with the next point – viruses are BAD XEROX COPIES – a kind of genetic SPAM – and they MUTATE RAPIDLY because of it. This article will help you understand not only this point, but an even bigger picture. VIRAL JUNK IS EVERYWHERE.
Viruses are self-reproducing genetic litter.
They’re the “tribbles” of DNA itself. They may reproduce, they may not, but they get their junk EVERYWHERE, and are fully capable of causing a variety of problems, penned in only by evolution itself – “does it work?” – “does it not work?” – which is a beautiful but “not always pleasant” proposition, shall we say.
And we’re just getting into the game of domesticating and breeding them, no matter how we cut it.
Once you see this, it’s very clear that Mikovits has a more correct “big-picture” viewpoint of viruses, and Fauci has a kind of tunnel-vision blindness on the fundamental problem of viruses. And, to be honest, this is Fauci’s basic problem. He has become a “hammer expert”, and he simply doesn’t get “tools” as a big picture. You see it in everything he does. Sadly, it’s clear that the Deep State encouraged the placement of such people, as an aid to compartmentalization.
[ Total aside: BARR is a big-picture thinker. Trump made a great hire there, IMO. ]
I’m not saying Mikovits is better than Fauci as a scientist – I’m just saying that we would have been better off with both of them still working, and duking it out, rather than one viewpoint “winning” and excluding the other, oblivious to its potential future relevance. Fauci may be righter on battle tactics in a certain, skeletal-thinking, vaccine-centric way – Mikovitz is righter on total war strategy, in my opinion. Viruses are a “bigger” and more diffuse problem than we have been allowed to think, and it’s time to fix that in MANY different ways.
HCQ and the like (e.g., ivermectin) is one of them.
Now, in my opinion, Mikovits may be “over-speculating” the badness of ALL long-term spectator viruses that don’t do much except – say – “pick your biological pocket” when you’re 84 years old. I think she may lean on that possible explanation of disease too reflexively – in some ways being an “anti-Fauci”. Nevertheless, we are now being confronted with a “known unknown”, and Fauci’s way of dealing with such things seems to have been to demand silence and/or “looking away” on them. Tsk-tsk.
SO – enter the MESS and read this article, KNOWING that it’s leaving so much out, but YOU are allowed – perfectly allowed – to think about those things. In that case, the article is extremely enlightening.
OK – back to work on the GUGINOGATE article!
W
Crazy Nancy Pelosi said she was “set up” by the beauty parlor owner when she improperly had the salon opened (and didn’t wear a MASK!). Does anyone want a Speaker of the House who can be so easily SET UP?
This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KMAG/KAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).
Yes, it’s Monday…again.
But it’s okay! We’ll get through it.
Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. But please keep it civil.
Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.
Our President is fighting for us night and day…please pray for him.
Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition from Stephen M Lloyd, titled ‘Rise Up’:
This [2Q-6]TH of AUGUST FRIDAY open thread is OPEN – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
They will be teaching this in sociology classes hundreds of years from now. The quintessential case of how large numbers of experts can be controlled to ends of destructive ignorance – by means of mob rule.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the OLD January 1st , 2019 open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
ON PRAYER
My old ask to PRAY FOR THE PRESIDENT was getting stale.
TIME FOR NEW
It’s time to PRAY for those around Trump – all those people who we don’t trust as much as Trump, but who President Trump DEPENDS ON, every day, to GET THE JOB DONE.
I’m not going to pick out anybody by name – that is for YOU to decide.
But I want you to PRAY FOR OTHERS to lift up this President, so that he, too, can SEE THE POWER OF PRAYER even more clearly through them!
Doesn’t matter who it is – even NAMELESS people who may see his pen and signature. Even anonymous patriots who protect him and us every day. Even his wife, his Vice President, and thousands of others – pray for them all to LIFT UP PRESIDENT TRUMP in all possible ways!
Now, especially, let’s pray for people to see the WISDOM in what President Trump is doing!
That includes praying that all of Trump’s Republican supporters come to UNDERSTAND that the QANON movement is not a THREAT, but a STRENGTH.
This person is an extremely good follow on Twitter, by the way.
Border-county taper forming now. Very much in the same natural viral progression as the north latitude taper.
You know what would have been cool? – if an epidemiologist had done this back in Feb, and not me. As if serving their fellow citizens or something crazy like that. pic.twitter.com/Gu4HFHWosU
The extremely important point here is that – as it says at the bottom of the graph, “Coronaviruses are sharply seasonal.” What this means is that coronaviruses spread via THINLY latitudinally banded epidemics. This is very similar to (but not exactly the same as) the phenomenon of the autumnal “leaf season” moving south during the fall, and the spring “blooming season” moving north during the spring.
Based on all of this – the WHEN and the WHERE of coronaviruses blossoming – and the introduction of the virus into America when and where it was introduced, one gets a two-humped graph which looks pretty much like what we got.
Stated simply, the southern states were not at fault for their “re-opening waves”. Likewise, New York was not responsible for suddenly getting better. One might say that, like global warming and cooling, “it was the sun” in both cases.
Yup. Sun worshipers, take note!
Read the replies and comments on the above tweet. Most people don’t spell it out as clearly as I did, but their subtle witty comments are great.
Now, Ethical Skeptic sees through all kinds of stuff like that.
Check THIS out. This is what Trump was talking about with “we’re testing so much!”
Below is what gets human rights criminals so angry about my charts. I cite the fallacy of exploiting raw data to incite despair in one's fellow citizens.
To use the curve on the left in a report/article/analysis is either imbecilic or maliciously criminal. pic.twitter.com/61hULRiaWs
I’m detecting that the cabal is BACKING UP on COVID – we are pushing hard, and they are stumbling back.
KEEP PUSHING!!!
CDC knows: masks were a MISTAKE. They've been pushing a net hypoxic / bacterial negative, and it's showing up in data, I'll bet. This is how they begin backing out while blaming the other side. https://t.co/ASNcrAyayK
— 2024 Democratic National Convention (@DemConvention) August 18, 2020
Here’s one of the milder comments:
This guy performed at the DNC tonight. A preview of the bizarre dystopia we should expect if the Democrats take the presidency. https://t.co/3aw3cGkvES
— Dr Boyce Watkins – Wealth is Power (@drboycewatkins1) August 19, 2020
Here was my gut reaction to Billy Porter and his gown (he’s notorious for wearing them).
Or more directly…..
But, TBH, the thing that’s more subtly off-putting is the…..
RED/GREEN American Flag
You know what I’m sayin’? That ain’t no accident. The RED-GREEN AXIS – Communists – Climate Commies – Islamists.
Stephen Stills is an interesting pick. Long before it was made easy by Hillary and Obama, Stills was traveling regularly to Havana, Cuba, to hang out with Castro and his goons.
I read a GREAT story by an exile who escaped from Cuba. He had been forced to appear at a function where Stills was introduced to the crowd by the communists. Stills tried to “rally the crowd” with communist slogans in Spanish, but the workers who had to actually LIVE under communism, were not impressed. The only person excited to be there?
Stephen Stills.
THAT is Cuban Communism.
So – yes – Stills knows how to rally the communists – OR THEIR VICTIMS.
Spiritual Warfare
I can’t FULLY explain this, because I love it when the dark side doesn’t actually understand how their tricks are going bad (or which trick, in particular).
BUT – I can still inspire you to continue to ACT in spiritual warfare, if I just give you the general idea.
The communists, satanists, and other cabal criminals are constantly trying to snake their way into my life. I almost always catch this. Mostly, it has been communist, or mostly communist, but this time it was straight-up satanist. HOWEVER, in today’s society, most people are simply incapable of seeing this sort of thing.
I am VERY thankful to ALL OF YOU HERE, because it is ONLY because of you, that I was PREPPED to catch this.
SEVERAL individual posts that YOU PEOPLE HAVE MADE HERE prepared me not only to SPOT the satanic move – they also gave me the insight to create what I immodestly believe was a BRILLIANT counter-move.
The counter-move executed flawlessly, and evil is neutralized. At least, for the moment.
SO – I just want to THANK YOU ALL for every time you have posted your honest thoughts, beliefs and news on “spiritual warfare”, “dealing with the dark side”, “cabal symbology”, and other such matters.
I caught a REALLY insidious plot move, and totally rick-rolled it, thanks to YOU!!!
W
You heard the chief of police – “Never Going To Let You Down” – THAT is President Trump.
This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KMAG/KAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).
Yes, it’s Monday…again.
But it’s okay! We’ll get through it.
Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. But please keep it civil.
Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.
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Our President is fighting for us night and day…please pray for him.
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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition from Eternal Eclipse, titled ‘Shape of Lies’:
‘Malversation’ is a noun that means…improper or corrupt behavior in office, especially in public office; Evil conduct; fraudulent practices; misbehavior, corruption, or extortion in office.
Used in a sentence:
The profligate curs in the DC Swamp have had no one to check their malversation for so long…they expect it to go on forever.
This [Q+4]TH of AUGUST FRIDAY open thread is OPEN – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
“Awkward Styles”
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
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ON PRAYER
My old ask to PRAY FOR THE PRESIDENT was getting stale.
TIME FOR NEW
It’s time to PRAY for those around Trump – all those people who we don’t trust as much as Trump, but who President Trump DEPENDS ON, every day, to GET THE JOB DONE.
I’m not going to pick out anybody by name – that is for YOU to decide.
But I want you to PRAY FOR OTHERS to lift up this President, so that he, too, can SEE THE POWER OF PRAYER even more clearly through them!
Doesn’t matter who it is – even NAMELESS people who may see his pen and signature. Even anonymous patriots who protect him and us every day. Even his wife, his Vice President, and thousands of others – pray for them all to LIFT UP PRESIDENT TRUMP in all possible ways!
And ONE final prayer request. Pray for the Trump brothers, specifically.
My condolences to Pres @realdonaldtrump on the passing of his younger brother Robert. Losing a sibling is a terrible thing made so much worse by all the suffering in the world right now from the #coronavirus. I wish the President and his family Gd's comfort in this difficult time
I have a great article coming, so I will keep this short. For now I want to encourage you to think about WAYS OF SUBVERTING the masks that DUMB US DOWN FOR CHINA.
We all know those brave souls who stand up to mask mandates openly, but not all of us are able to weather those storms. Some have tried and have felt beaten and demoralized. Some are leery to even try.
Too many people who ABSOLUTELY SHOULD NOT be wearing masks are being FORCED TO DO SO by “Karen World”.
"Doctors do it" is simply not a health proof – particularly coming from a profession (I have known many) which often requires or encourages an incredible amount of self-abuse, such as sleep deprivation.
The question of mask/brain O2 deficit and CO2 excess is readily answered.
I want to instill QUIET COLONIST REBELLION against hypoxia-inducing, cognition-decreasing, DANGEROUS masks.
Think about ways to rebel against the MASK NAZIS, and be ready for my article!
ChiCom Risks
Yes – let’s follow the story from useful idiot MASK NAZIS back to CHINAZIS.
Even Twitter is now waking up to the fact that China is doing everything possible to destroy America, and you will see this in my upcoming article on useless, dangerous, China-imposed MASKS, very shortly.
If Twitter has decided to END its hypocrisy in going after ONLY Trump, by labeling CHINA TWEETS as what they are, then at least their censorship is a little more even-handed, but I also think (at)jackboot is getting wise to the fact that CCP is using DNC like a rented mule. CCP doesn’t care if they destroy DNC during their get-away.
And that’s just the beginning…..
China’s Thousand Talents Plan recruits foreign researchers, including Americans, and offers monetary incentives to hand their research over to Beijing. We need to stop the #CCP’s systematic campaign to steal their way to the top.https://t.co/gU2J7rtwYI
I am still SHOCKED by the indictment of Harvard’s *DEPARTMENT HEAD* Charles Lieber. Talk about going straight for the top. Top administrator at a top chemistry university.
Say what you will about Wray – this was a HUGE bust. Never in my wildest dreams.
Yes – what I saw in science was alarming. I was RIGHT THERE in the middle of a bunch of the world’s sketchiest ChiComs – AND YET I never heard ANYTHING about their “Thousand Talents” (OF SILVER) bribery program. That’s how well they kept this under wraps. And SMART, too – they must have known I would have raised a flag if I knew about Thousand Talents.
Sure, maybe I had nothing they wanted, but I never heard scuttlebutt of this program from ANYBODY.
Of course, maybe they only show researchers the “Thousand Talents” contract after the “perky little tits” have been shoved at potential recipients one time too many. I did “almost run into” some of that action.
Notice the name? The cunning joke of betrayal as a subtext? That is CLASSIC CHICOM. They love to CROW over their victims, with the victims not realizing what is going on. Or maybe the sell-outs DO realize that they’re selling out, because they have little choice, or it gets worse.
There is NO AMOUNT OF KARMA that the ChiComs don’t deserve here.
There is some talk that BANNON is a victim of CCP shenanigans. My thoughts…..
This guy is supposedly an anti-Chicom activist . . . but WSJ story says in fact he may be a double agent. Bannon may have been had.
Without even looking, I can tell you that "controlled opposition" in the China camp is filled with ringers and manipulable fools. Just like Russia AND Ukraine are both filled with "ex"-Soviet peril, China, HK, Taiwan, Singapore, Indonesia – all are deadly on ChiCom risks.
The ChiComs can use ANYBODY. but they prefer white-face and black-face in America, because it's easy and leaves no fingerprints, so why not? They get HK to "help" in their sleep. Bannon's happy-go-lucky footsie with HK just made me cringe, TBH. "Too casual" is his weakness.
Bottom line – anybody who gets anywhere NEAR ChiComs or WHO THEY TOUCH is at risk. They will MESS WITH YOU in any way they can. They will SNAKE you with influence, spying, exfiltration, sabotage, or life and reputation damage through whatever means are possible.
It’s a real shame that one has to be CAREFUL A.F. with even the nicest, most honest, communist-hating Chinese Americans, but even ABC (American-born Chinese) are deeply and heavily infiltrated and influenced by the ChiComs, and if you have a Chinese spouse or “significant other”, prepare for dangerous and “interesting” times!
Reality doesn’t care about “it sure would be nice if everything and everybody was on the up and up”.
That ain’t the way it is.
Dealing With AQQusing Libs
Right now, when “Q” has been brought to the foreground by Fake News attacking POTUS, there may be a temptation to hang back. DON’T. There has never been a time like now to just dump Epstein and company all over the left. We own everything but “cannibals”, and who knows what is coming? And while you’re at it, jump up and down on “The Hoax” for all you’re worth! The HOAX that Q got right, and THEY got wrong.
Hilarious that Fake News threw "cannibals" in there JUST TO MAKE SURE that it wan't obviously true, since Democrat bundlers, aides, millionaires and interns arrested in the last few years on child porn or human trafficking charges are pretty much a satanic cult of pedophiles. https://t.co/pmfwrDqdO3pic.twitter.com/BU6EaHNwvl
OK, maybe not cannibals, Fake News. Grand jury is still out there. But – well – Trump seems to have done something about global elite pedophile satanists and managed to shutter their temple! pic.twitter.com/AvnyWJEjNb
"Columbia". Wasn't Comey's nerdy BFF who helped in the lawfare coup from there? Seems to be a magnet with credibility cover for a lot of unsavory types. pic.twitter.com/iMxeWuBXZH
Here are some selections from a RANT THREAD on Twitter…..
The only "toxic and dangerous conspiracy" I see is the ridiculous phony Democrat "news" that has reached Soviet levels of cringe. The fact that an anonymous TROLLING PSY-OP and its followers – urged to be PEACEFUL and TRUTHFUL – can drive these Bolshie betas nuts? Beautiful. https://t.co/STnYsP19uo
Yeah, these faux journalists are scared – and they should be. To even characterize QAnon as a "conspiracy" is just DUMB at levels a 1970's pre-progzi high-school paper would not fall for.
A "conspiracy" is what Hillary and her supporters did to TRUMP. AND WE HAVE PROOF.
One of the things I find devastating to the left is to make sure they understand they are reacting to a PSY-OP. I’m careful not to call QAnon “just” a psy-op – that diminishes a TRUTH PROJECT, and such things are grand endeavors. Q is way more than just a psy-op or a troll against the Fake News. But TWISTING the Q phenomenon off their shill position that it’s a “conspiracy” or a “conspiracy theory” is exactly where I love to go, in proving that THEY are not reporting it correctly.
They know it’s a psy-op aimed at them, and they can’t report it.
MAKE. THEM. GROVEL. IN. THEIR. FAKE. NEWS. DENIAL.
People say "psy-op" like it's a bad thing. This nation's FLAG and ANTHEM celebrate a successful psy-op against the British. A beautiful operation where more people gave their lives for a psychological victory than a naval tactical one. Absolutely inspiring.
This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KMAG/KAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).
Yes, it’s Monday…again.
But it’s okay! We’ll get through it.
Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. But please keep it civil. Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.
Our President is fighting for us night and day…please pray for him.
Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition from AShamaluevMusic, titled ‘Cinematic Piano Ambient’:
This [Q-3]TH of AUGUST FRIDAY open thread is OPEN – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA / KAG! / KMAG world (KMAG being a bit of both MAGA and KAG!).
We're big over the target on this one!
PREDICTION: The #LancetGate effect of increases in both DEATHS and INFECTIONS upon banning of #HCQ will show up in all countries that reacted to the paper, including several which have not been publicly mentioned yet.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the OLD January 1st , 2019 open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
SPEAK THE FIVE WORDS BOLDLY TO OUR PRESIDENT!
“I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!“
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Little Boy, Fat Man & The Sundance Kid
OK – we have a problem. Sundance’s reveal, undoubtedly a NUKE of Eeyore proportions, is coming soon.
Many of us want to talk about “Sundance stuff”, which tends toward DOWNSIDE THINKING.
I will agree that SD does not do “mea culpa” well, or even “at all”!!!
I believe SD’s point about Mueller team control is not going to convince those who don’t see “control from below” as control. SD’s mind lives inside DOJ structure, and not everybody can or even wants to follow him there, but in a DOJ-centric problem, I gladly adopt his framework of seeing things, because it works like crazy for me, too.
Sundance’s warm-up revelation about Tash Gauhar is solving all sorts of problems for me, and is also enough of a reveal of the SERIOUSNESS of the long-term problems at DOJ, that I am on board with SD’s reveal JUST ON THAT ALONE. His big reveal (not the Durham deputy – the OTHER reveal) HAS TO BE in the space I’m computing, and that space is dangerous as hell to America, and must be revealed before the election, whether Barr is going after it or not. I’m not fully sure what it is, but just the SET OF POSSIBLES is enough that any sunlight becomes good sunlight, Barr or no Barr. IMO.
TheseTruths
I do see control from below as control. I would very much like to know more of your thoughts about your last paragraph. An article about that would be great (if I may be so bold!)!
"Durham" is the shiny thing to keep everyone distracted and looking in the wrong place. The real investigation has nothing Durham attached to it. You can debate the Barr strategy later on. I care not. https://t.co/vxmc9lUKqF
SD is also saying that he will reveal to selected journalists on FRIDAY, and will reveal to US on Saturday.
NOW – here is my problem.
Not everybody here wants to see Sundance stuff, which can be – WELL – for many people, especially Q people, demoralizing. I expect his reveal to be BEYOND controversial – I believe it will OFFEND and OUTRAGE, drawing mockery and derision, even if people claim it’s a nothingburger. It will stir the pot – as intended.
So I’m going to make three proposals about where I will discuss “Sundance stuff”.
keep it in the daily open – DEAL WITH IT – FIGHT OVER IT
separate posts, NOT in the daily open – KEEP IT AWAY
on The U Tree
I can live with any of these, but I currently believe “other posts here” is the best for all concerned. Let me know what you all think. It will happen before morning.
Thanks!
The LancetGateEffect
Repeating from last week, I continue to harp on the “LancetGate Effect”.
This is the article that brought it to my attention:
I alerted administration HCQ advocate Peter Navarro to this (having no idea if he saw my tweet – only TWITTER and the DNC and the CCP know), because I think there is a “knowledge crisis” here. Waiting too long for published data (by the same publications which were victimized by LancetGate, no less!) showing we’re killing people by letting the media badmouth a “best current early treatment”, is a RISK to many – science, the people, AND this administration – maybe even to its enemies, who will ultimately pay for an increasingly costly crime.
Peter – another "real time effect" exists for the FDA 6/15 decision. It's also a "LancetGate" effect, ironically started AFTER Swiss reinstatement of #HCQ on 6/11. Different delay – the shorter time from infection to viral test. Amazing proof. READ: https://t.co/lDV7XMyGzbpic.twitter.com/owqX6AMPUD
For those who are put off by the reciprocal graph, here is the data viewed more traditionally. Same point – a causally timed inflection point in cases when shadow is thrown on #HCQ by the out-of-date 6/15 (retracted) #LancetGate diss during rescinding of the EUA by FDA. pic.twitter.com/0FXd20tiMT
I really think we need to thoroughly explore this possible ‘TRAP’ (Damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t) so we understand it.
Gingersmom2009 earlier was saying that President Trump is ‘Weak’ because he did not use an E.O. to overrule the ANTI-HCQ SABOTEURS in the CDC, FDA….
… I and don’t want to be that floating turd — but someone was pretty strident here in a reply to me yesterday AM about the Stanton Act and how POTUS can’t go against Fauci/Birx or he’ll be removed from office. The EUA is exactly what needs to happen….
That was me.
DP, Ginger, and others.
Causualties in nursing homes was done PRECISELY to get the reaction you have. These people have spent over 100 years perfecting the methods of ‘herding you’ into the direction they want you to go
AND THEY ARE PURE EVIL….. [start of a long comment]
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I can understand why DP, Ginger, and others are furious and want POTUS to DO SOMETHING! I am livid too. I am so angry that if a Karen demonrat gets in my face about masks I would probably punch them…
HOWEVER, I can step back and I THINK I SEE A TRAP.
So what say you?
Is POTUS sidestepping a trap? Or is he ‘weak’ in not using an E.O. to address the HCQ issue?
THIS is a beautiful demonstration of how politics and science are interacting BADLY, and why we need to keep both politics and corporate money OUT of influencing science judgments.
We will deal with part of this below, in something I call “therapeutic agnosticism”.
For now, I think it’s very legitimate to ask about Trump’s relationship with both the health bureaucracy – much of which OPPOSES HIM and SUPPORTED HILLARY CLINTON – and with the corporate and NGO behemoths – much of that world controlled by Bill Gates – and most of which is also politically opposed to Trump.
I think that the other side will weaponize ANYTHING, and yes – I think they may well have been trying to trap Trump on HCQ.
In my opinion President Trump has done enough. He has been honest about his belief in HCQ, but he is letting the medical pros make decisions, and they will answer for any mistakes.
If FDA scientists don’t reverse course on HCQ due to the LancetGateEffect, and the evidence keeps rolling in, then I believe Azar and Hahn will have all they need to clean the place out very soon.
There are constructive paths forward – I’ve suggested one already, but there are others. Any EUA or other action which broad-brushes early use of more antivirals and explicitly includes HCQ is fairly absolving without spotlighting, and serves the interests of both “big pharma” and “people’s pharma”.
Note that remdesivir has been approved for more widespread use. If that use can be moved forward in time, such as allowing an early bolus injection “somewhat off label” or EUAed under doctor’s supervision, early in HCQ COVID treatment, and it gives improved results (I would almost bet on it), then patients, doctors, and researchers all benefit. Likewise, EIDD-2801 and RLF-100 need to be tried earlier, IMO.
Yes, to some extent this is expensive “boutique medicine”, adding big costs for small percentages of better outcomes, but honestly, THAT is exactly why people have private insurance and THEIR OWN preferred providers and drugs. Research is expensive, well-heeled customers who will spare no expense WANT that extra edge, so it’s a match made in capitalism.
If the MONEY can get these new fresh drugs WHEN THEY NEED THEM, and those who want cheap and reliable HCQ can get THAT when they need it, then hopefully we can all benefit – most of all insuring that patients are not dying of this minor but annoying flu which – I have to say on now-sketchy lungs – is not exactly as minor as the usual coughs and colds, even if it is, for most, more minor than regular flu.
So let’s talk about therapeutics in general, but FIRST just one of them.
Ivermectin & COVID-19
Thanks to bakocarl for turning me on to this article, which has proven very enlightening as I’ve dealt with the PROCESS of understanding it at a general level.
I had promised that I would do an explainer on this, and to some extent I already did, in comments, but I want to get some deeper thoughts out there. Also, this topic brings up the issue of “therapeutic agnosticism”. This is about not just STATING conflicts of interest in backing or not backing particular therapeutics, but DEALING with those conflicts – ADDRESSING THEM – very openly. Thus, I explain this idea more fully below.
If you search through the whole article, you will NOT find zinc mentioned AT ALL, and any time zinc is not controlled, an HCQ or HCQ+AZT study is operating with a loose wheel, in my opinion.
This becomes even more important because of the way the CONTROL for the ivermecting (IVM) add-on was done.
The control study for IVM+HCQ+AZT was done by RETROSPECTIVE ANALYSIS of earlier hospital treatment using HCQ+AZT alone. The authors understand fully the limitations of doing this, and I agree with them fully – it is better to do a potentially flawed study here than none at all. There is a strong ETHICAL argument for comparing PAST BEST to NEW BEST – and one doesn’t have to invoke Melania to know it’s right – DOING BEST is BEING BEST!
Using dice to send some patients to WORSE TREATMENT is not a braggable thing. Better to take some lumps on uncertainty, IMO.
What are the risks of comparing two hospital studies NOT done at the same time – where one of them is designated a “control”?
“Control” assumes that you’ve changed exactly what you know you changed – it means that you have a reliable reference, preferably MINIMIZING differences that have to be explained away.
Yes, it’s the same hospital, the same doctors, the same staff, but we all know that treatment for COVID has changed MASSIVELY over time. Here are important changes:
less vents
more steroids
better diet including vitamins and minerals to resolve deficiencies
more oxygen earlier
better testing, all kinds
As you can see, there are reasons for outcomes to be better now, completely independent of the study object, ivermectin. NEVERTHELESS, the authors DO see better results – significantly better – if they give patients a big dose of IVM at the beginning of HCQ-AZT treatment. They do as much correcting for differences as they can, in comparing individual outcomes, and I believe they tried to do a good job.
Skipping past how I got there, my reading of this is that IVM is very likely acting a LOT like AZT (azithromycin, Z-pak, AZM, whatever). It is providing a SHOTGUN for unicellular and multicellular organisms, weighted toward PARASITES. It has a different SPECTRUM from AZT, and will complement it. This will affect both pre-existing and new infections.
It is EXTREMELY LIKELY that this should work, even if IVM has NO ANTIVIRAL ACTIVITY.
It’s beautiful science – and also explains why the “pro-crisis” camp would oppose use of ivermectin.
The argument isn’t whether ivermectin is an antiviral, or any worse or better than anything else. The argument is whether is can be used to save lives, and how well it does that, versus something else – including simply NOT USING IT.
If these results hold, or are even partially confirmed, then I think ivermectin needs an EUA along with HCQ and several other new antivirals, for doctors to begin solving things EARLY with antivirals and “therapeutic adjuvants”, when they work best, as I mentioned LAST WEEK.
Now, let’s talk about therapeutic agnosticism.
On Staying Therapeutically Agnostic
Now – we have seen incredible bias against hydroxychloroquine – nicely summarized HERE:
Dr. Harvey Risch, MD/PhD from the department of epidemiology at Yale responds to the senseless attack and attempt to discredit him for his research on hydroxychloroquine.
If you get into that article, you will see where “the powers that be” try to KNEECAP hydroxychloroquine into “hospital use only” – which absolutely does not make sense, until you realize that one of the more unique problems of the new and just recently approved antiviral drug remdesivir (which Fauci labeled the “new standard” despite unimpressive performance in late-stage COVID), is that the drug needs to not only be administered by IV, but it also has to be observed closely for nasty side effects, and thus being up until recently stuck in a late stage, hospital patient track, which is NOT a good place for antiviral success.
SO – rather than getting remdesivir into earlier settings, what did they do? What the CHICOMS routinely do – KNEECAP THE COMPETITION in some way that nobody sees.
Honestly, if you’ve been in science and been halfway observant, you’ve seen how the corrupt ChiComs operate – MAFIA techniques – frequently SABOTAGING the other guy, although perhaps not until AFTER stealing the technology – so they seem to be quite comfy with the general lack of morality of the growing “medical mafia” in the US.
A match made in HELL.
Anyway – here is the deal.
We do NOT want to be like them THE OTHER WAY.
don’t cheer the failure of ANY drug – figure it out and fix it
every drug is different – help them ALL find their perfect niche to help us
never ever conduct a sabotage study like LancetGate
don’t reject studies “going the other way” – UNDERSTAND AND EXPLAIN THEM
call out sabotage, bias and error, no matter who is committing it
if you know why “the other guy’s drug” is FAILING, you are morally obligated to help fix it
if you know why “the other guy’s drug” is WORKING, you are morally obligated to explain and even recommend it
pharmacology is not a zero sum game, even though patients are a zero sum market – every new drug adds to the arsenal of salvation
In short, I wish for people who are fighting the suppression of HCQ to not become deniers, defamers, and “opponents” of other drugs and vaccines, because doctors need those too, for patients who want or need those specific drugs or treatments.
LIVE AND LET LIVE.
Even if the other team doesn’t play that way.
By this attitude, we will DEMONSTRATE the superiority of our approach, which I sometimes call POPULAR MEDICINE.
Masks OFF
The fly in the ointment that mocks the smooth, lying MASK SOCIALISTS is SWEDEN.
“With numbers diminishing very quickly in Sweden, we see no point in wearing a face mask in Sweden, not even on public transport.” -Swedish State Epidemiologist Anders Tegnell, 7/28/20
This wonderful meme comes from Aubergine. I also used it HERE:
Wake up! I can MEASURE my oxygen hurt by all 3 of my masks, using my pulse oximeter. It's mild, but it's persistent and long. 97 (sleepy) is not 98 (calm) is not 99 (alert), and 93 is where they take you to the hospital.
We need to start thinking about measuring things, because I am CERTAIN that masks are hurting us – nickeling and diming us to death.
I am having success understanding oxygen deprivation using my cheap oximeter, but I need perhaps a more expensive model to take finer cumulative readings and record them.
Gail Combs suggests that we can capture mask CO2 as well.
Let us think about this problem, because I am certain that CHINA is behind it.
I will add details later of why I believe normal mask wear leads to cognitive deficits for 30-60 minutes AFTER shopping with a mask.
This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KMAG/KAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).
Yes, it’s Monday…again.
But it’s okay! We’ll get through it.
Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. But please keep it civil.
Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.
Our President is fighting for us night and day…please pray for him.
Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition from AShamaluevMusic, titled ‘Epic Inspiration’:
Logorrhea is a noun which means… an excessive use of words, often incoherent talkativeness or wordiness; morbid loquacity and rapidity of speech.
In psychology, logorrhea or logorrhoea (from Ancient Greek λόγος logos “word” and ῥέω rheo “to flow”) is a communication disorder that causes excessive wordiness and repetitiveness, which can cause incoherency.
Used in a sentence:
Jim Acosta suffers from the logorrhea that infects so much of the corrupt Enemedia.
