DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20211202

So, let’s see what happened on Wednesday….

https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1466080121488654351

From These Truths:


TheseTruths
(@thesetruths) Coyote December 1, 2021 15:13

Gateway Pundit, from https://100percentfedup.com/breaking-supreme-court-justice-terrifies-pro-abortion-left-with-one-opening-question/:
BREAKING: Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas Terrifies Pro-Abortion Left With ONE Opening Question

Before Justice Scalia’s death, Thomas went 10 years without asking a question during proceedings. This week, Thomas broke his usual silence to ask a question that has pro-abortion activists livid.

” Does a mother have a right to ingest drugs and harm a pre-viable baby? Can the state bring child neglect charges against the mother? “ he asked. The Supreme Court is currently reviewing a Mississippi law that would ban nearly all abortions after 15 weeks. 

If the Supreme Court were to uphold Mississippi’s ban on abortions after 15 weeks, it would lead to abortion bans across the country. The pro-abortion Guttmacher Institute estimates that 26 states would impose further restrictions on abortion or outright bans. It’s no wonder the left is terrified of Justice Thomas.

Given all the warnings on booze bottles, when a glass of wine sometimes is recommended to keep women from going into labor early, it’s a good question.

Even Russia is now restricting in-utero infanticide now. We’re better than this, America.

https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1466096135127420933

From American Thinker:

December 1, 2021

Don’t Let Them Scare Your Freedoms Away

By Paul Krause

…The problem with the new fear campaign over the omicron variant is the further degradation of liberty and Constitutional rights already manifesting because of it.

As the new Cold War with China ratchets up, the Western world has dealt the cards against themselves. The trumpet of freedom and liberty cannot be sounded without charges of hypocrisy and hollowness as we witness the supposedly free democratic world, especially in places like Australia and New Zealand (not to mention the United Kingdom and Europe), engage in the some of the most vicious and tyrannical lockdowns in the world. These lockdowns, restructuring of government power and control over businesses and individuals, aim at one thing: the remaking of our relationship to the state.

What the totalitarians who have weaponized the coronavirus fail to acknowledge is that they have politicized the virus, not conservatives, libertarians, and the few remaining civil liberals who are concerned with the aggressive and militant overreach of the federal government and medical institutions.

The new totalitarians assert those of us who wish to keep the flame of liberty and the human spirit alive of politicizing the virus. Shame is their calling card. The claim that liberty-loving and defending individuals have weaponized the virus for political purposes doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.

Yeah….

This is a problem isn’t it. The number of people who were in my dorm in college who did not know how to do laundry was appalling.

I recommended a video on Tuesday’s daily, and really, I don’t know that I can spin a whole post on it, but here it is.

The Ghislaine Maxwell section, and the looking at Guantanamo Bay flights that are HIGHLY unusual, like the Director of Homeland Security going down there, starts at 16:27. However, there is interesting information ahead of that mark. Yes, Monkey does a lot of speculating and connecting dots, but there’s information on TerraMar, the detention camps nationwide (there are thirty-seven), the court docket at GITMO, federal prisoner numbers and location designations and more.

It’s worth a watch, and remember that what Monkey brings is what someone out there wants us to see. There are enough masked flights, and transponders turned off in mid-flight in what he presents to raise some eyebrows.

Let’s see….

https://twitter.com/chieftalkbull/status/1466024917862813697
https://twitter.com/q_professor/status/1466037500451774466

^^^^^THIS^^^^^

https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1465810957268140044

I love kids with an innate knowledge of creative problem solving.

Carlin:

And now, to remember an evening in 1983 when half of the swim team showed up at one of the Southern Maryland town’s two movie theaters to watch Rocky III. No, it was not planned that way. Just a happy accident.

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One of the obstacles to full understanding of just what the enemy is all about revolves around the concept of symbolism.

Symbolism actually evolved in Christianity prior to the splintering of the Faith in the west in the sixteenth century Anno Domini, and the rich tradition of said symbolism is one of the aspects of the culture that was destroyed along with a lot of stained glass windows, altar stones, and other art work when the revolt happened.

We’ll pick this up next week with the Trinity. It’s a fairly meaty topic when it comes to that.

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Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights
  2. No running with scissors
  3. If you bring snacks, be sure they are made with bacon

Auntie DePat’s requests as we are all supposedly adults and don’t just play them on TV like the body doubles pretending to be the squatter in chief:

If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.

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MATTHEW 7:21, 24-27

21“Not every one who says to me, `Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 24“Every one then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house upon the rock; 25and the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat upon that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. 26And every one who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house upon the sand; 27and the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell; and great was the fall of it.”

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New twist on an old experiment. The set-up takes seven minutes, but result is explosive.

DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20211118

https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1461030627206127618

The meme and Tweet progression will speak for itself.

About the decline in Church attendance, and even believing in God, let alone one specific belief system….

This has been making the rounds. I’m not sure anyone should toss an AR-15, though.

Carlin:

And now, to remember an evening in 1983 when half of the swim team showed up at one of the Southern Maryland town’s two movie theaters to watch Rocky III. No, it was not planned that way. Just a happy accident.

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One of the obstacles to full understanding of just what the enemy is all about revolves around the concept of symbolism.

Symbolism actually evolved in Christianity prior to the splintering of the Faith in the west in the sixteenth century Anno Domini, and the rich tradition of said symbolism is one of the aspects of the culture that was destroyed along with a lot of stained glass windows, altar stones, and other art work when the revolt happened.

From last week:

More on the symbols of Christ Himself next week. (There are a number.)

Alright, here we go. From the Apocalypse, Chapter 1:

[7] Behold, he cometh with the clouds, and every eye shall see him, and they also that pierced him. And all the tribes of the earth shall bewail themselves because of him. Even so. Amen. [8]I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, saith the Lord God, who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.

We start with the Greek as the VERY early Church used it quite a bit along with Aramaic and Latin.

The Alpha and Omega are fairly obvious and do appear entwined sometimes, but not on Tabernacles and the gates to Sanctuaries. On those Church features, they appear separately.

The Chi Rho, the first two Greek letters in the name Christ, appears, usually, by itself. The symbolism is obvious here, and that symbol has been used as long as the Ichthys from last week had.

When Latin became far more prominent in the Church, the MONOGRAM began to appear.

The letters IHS are the first in each word of the Latin phrase, Iesus Hominum Salvator, or, Jesus, Man/Mankind’s Savior. The place most people encounter the Monogram is in the Seal of the Jesuits, along with the nails of the cross, and the cross itself.

The sunburst motif became popular somewhere around the Renaissance, and it still appears in the form of Monstrances, although of late, the newer ones tend to look like the reliquaries they are. At any rate, Christ is the center of the universe is where that goes.

“Saying with a loud voice: The Lamb that was slain is worthy to receive power, and divinity, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and benediction.”
Apocalypse (Revelation) 5:12

The Paschal Lamb is pretty obvious.

From the Medieval Bestiaries comes a different symbol.

The stag is a symbol for Christ, Who tramples and destroys the Devil. Early bestiaries describe the stag as a relentless enemy of snakes. The stag was believed to pursue snakes into their holes or rock crevices, flushing them out by flooding the hole with the breath or water from its mouth, and devouring them.

https://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/f022-Stag.htm

Interestingly enough, this is the symbol that the other side appropriated.

Harry, the supposed “chosen one” throws the Petronus charm to ward off the evil spirits, and it takes the form of a silver stag.

The other side is not original at all.

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Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights
  2. No running with scissors
  3. If you bring snacks, be sure they are made with bacon

Auntie DePat’s requests as we are all supposedly adults and don’t just play them on TV like the body doubles pretending to be the squatter in chief:

If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.

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MATTHEW 14:22-33

22Then he made the disciples get into the boat and go before him to the other side, while he dismissed the crowds. 23And after he had dismissed the crowds, he went up on the mountain by himself to pray. When evening came, he was there alone, 24but the boat by this time was many furlongs distant from the land, beaten by the waves; for the wind was against them. 25And in the fourth watch of the night he came to them, walking on the sea. 26But when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were terrified, saying, “It is a ghost!” And they cried out for fear. 27But immediately he spoke to them, saying, “Take heart, it is I; have no fear.” 28And Peter answered him, “Lord, if it is you, bid me come to you on the water.” 29He said, “Come.” So Peter got out of the boat and walked on the water and came to Jesus; 30but when he saw the wind, he was afraid, and beginning to sink he cried out, “Lord, save me.” 31Jesus immediately reached out his hand and caught him, saying to him, “O man of little faith, why did you doubt?” 32And when they got into the boat, the wind ceased. 33And those in the boat worshiped him, saying, “Truly you are the Son of God.”

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DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20211111

We’re there, folks.

There’s some good writing out there right now, but on Wednesday, what took center stage was the Kyle Rittenhouse trial and the basic rights violations going on.

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1458487908810125313
https://twitter.com/emzanotti/status/1458530294508756993
https://twitter.com/ImDavidNC__/status/1458515007658987530

The memes write themselves.

Well, alrighty then. Anatomy of a Murder, and A Few Good Men Aside, this is highly informative on the finer points of the law.

https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1458466708893667336

Well…since they DID jail January 6 people, and the whole Buffalo Jump thing happened, the American people are using other venues to display their displeasure.

It’s not the way the rest of the world does it, but it’s effective…and it ticks off Bob Costas (BONUS!). (For personal reasons regarding Costas going back decades, this is delicious. Yes, in a former life I knew his first wife.)

It’s a question none of the “protected” (as if we were talking about birth control and/or sunscreen) want to have to answer.

Put too many bored engineers in a room, and this happens.

Lemme guess…an old phonebook and a Sears Roebuck catalog? Or was that just Aunt Bernice? (Well, she was a cousin, but there was an old phonebook in the outhouse.)

And for the self righteous anti-conspiracy snob who turns off the volume when My Pillow ads come on (you know who you are, not that you would stoop to hang out here):

If all the Irish spoke like this, the world would be a better place.

Carlin:

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One of the obstacles to full understanding of just what the enemy is all about revolves around the concept of symbolism.

Symbolism actually evolved in Christianity prior to the splintering of the Faith in the west in the sixteenth century Anno Domini, and the rich tradition of said symbolism is one of the aspects of the culture that was destroyed along with a lot of stained glass windows, altar stones, and other art work when the revolt happened.

I’ve been collecting examples of symbolism, so as to better inform readers here what those symbols are, how to spot them, and what they mean. Rather than a big, long post I thought I would bring this history to the Thursday threads as they always seem to get short shrift.

A request was made to explain the symbolism of the fish, so…..

From the Gospel According to St. Matthew (and the first chapter of St. Mark, actually) Chapter 4:

[16] The people that sat in darkness, hath seen great light: and to them that sat in the region of the shadow of death, light is sprung up. [17] From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say: Do penance, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. [18] And Jesus walking by the sea of Galilee, saw two brethren, Simon who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother, casting a net into the sea (for they were fishers). [19]And he saith to them: Come ye after me, and I will make you to be fishers of men.[20] And they immediately leaving their nets, followed him.

And so, the Faithful used the fish to connect with other faithful. According to legend:

The ichthys first started appearing in Catholic art and literature around the second century A.D. By the end of the second century it was popular among followers of the Church and became widespread across the globe by the fourth century. According to tradition, the fish symbol is rooted during the early years of the Church when those who followed the Lord faced intense religious persecution. The symbol would allow them to quickly identify if they were in safe company, and it was also used to discretely mark gathering places and tombs. Some say that when a Catholic was faced with a stranger in a road, they would draw one half of the arc in the dirt. If the stranger completed the symbol by drawing the other arc, they both knew they were safe in each others company.

As for the Ichthys itself:

The term ichthys, is actually a Greek acronym translating into English to mean Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior.

• Iota (i) is the first letter of Iēsous (Ἰησοῦς), Greek for “Jesus”
• Chi (ch) is the first letter of Christos (Χριστός), Greek for “anointed”
• Theta (th) is the first letter of Theou (Θεοῦ), Greek for “God”
• Upsilon (y) is the first letter of hyios (Υἱός), Greek for “Son”
• Sigma (s) is the first letter of sōtēr (Σωτήρ), Greek for “Savior”

Ancient Churches as well as newer ones with lovely art, often have fish in mosaics and stained glass.

Continuing with the nautical theme, as the Church is considered to be the Barque of St. Peter, the congregation sits in a section of the building called the “nave” as in naval, and the anchor is a symbol of safe harbor.

More on the symbols of Christ Himself next week. (There are a number.)

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And now for the business portion.

Please review our HOST and site owner’s Guidelines for posting and discussion for this site. Wolf is kind enough to put up with *most* of us and our antics after thorough vetting. Violators of the baiting and deliberately attempting to divide the group rules WILL face consequences.

The discourse on this site is to be CIVIL – no name calling, baiting, or threatening others here is allowed. Company manners are appreciated. Those who are so inclined may visit Wolf’s other sanctuary, the U-Tree, to slog out discussions best saved for a wrestling mat. If, for some reason, this site is not available, head over to the UTree and visit the post at the top of the list or the closest rescue thread.

This site is a celebration of the natural rights endowed to humans by our Creator as well as those enshrined in the Bill of Rights adopted in the founding documents of the United States of America. Within the limits of law, how we exercise these rights is part of the freedom of our discussion.

THAT MEANS THAT ALL OF US HERE ARE ENTITLED TO OUR OPINIONS AND PREJUDICES, ETC., SO LONG AS THEY CAUSE NO PHYSICAL HARM TO OTHERS OR DOXX OUR FELLOW TREE DWELLERS.

All opinions here are valued for the diversity they bring to the issues, and the shaping of understanding regarding topics for which many of us do not have all information. Correcting the record on any one topic is appreciated.

Be careful in expressing thoughts as we would all like to think well of the rest of the group, and ill-thought out comments have a way of wrecking that for everyone.

Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights
  2. No running with scissors
  3. If you bring snacks, be sure they are made with bacon

Auntie DePat’s requests as we are all supposedly adults and don’t just play them on TV like the body doubles pretending to be the squatter in chief:

If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.

The scroll wheel on your mouse can be your friend. As mature adults, please use it here in the same manner you would in avoiding online porn.

Thank you so much for any and all attention to such details. It is GREATLY appreciated by more than one party here.

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WISDOM 7:22–8:1

722for wisdom, the fashioner of all things, taught me. For in her there is a spirit that is intelligent, holy, unique, manifold, subtle, mobile, clear, unpolluted, distinct, invulnerable, loving the good, keen, irresistible, 23beneficent, humane, steadfast, sure, free from anxiety, all-powerful, overseeing all, and penetrating through all spirits that are intelligent and pure and most subtle. 24For wisdom is more mobile than any motion; because of her pureness she pervades and penetrates all things. 25For she is a breath of the power of God, and a pure emanation of the glory of the Almighty; therefore nothing defiled gains entrance into her. 26For she is a reflection of eternal light, a spotless mirror of the working of God, and an image of his goodness. 27Though she is but one, she can do all things, and while remaining in herself, she renews all things; in every generation she passes into holy souls and makes them friends of God, and prophets; 28for God loves nothing so much as the man who lives with wisdom. 29For she is more beautiful than the sun, and excels every constellation of the stars. Compared with the light she is found to be superior, 30for it is succeeded by the night, but against wisdom evil does not prevail. 81She reaches mightily from one end of the earth to the other, and she orders all things well.

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DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20211104

No idea where this originated, but saw it at least three times on Wednesday, so I thought I would share it.

Pep talk from General Flynn:

@RealGenFlynn
“A message for today:

We are Designed to Withstand

The apostle Paul went through all kinds of unfair situations. He was beaten with rods, falsely accused of crimes, lied about by others, put in prison for years, and shipwrecked. He could have been overwhelmed and crushed under the pressure. Yet he is the one who wrote, “Thanks be to God who always causes us to triumph.” He understood that God doesn’t let you face what you can’t handle. If you stay in faith as Paul did, you’ll discover you’ve been designed to withstand the pressure. You’ll find that the enemy can’t come up with a scheme to outwit the God who created you. He can’t send a storm that’s so powerful that your walls get blown down. You may be hard pressed, but you will not be crushed. Paul was saying we’ve been designed for the difficulty. God has taken into account all the weight, all the trouble, and all the bad breaks, and He’s given you the strength, the courage, and the fortitude to withstand.”

Paul is each one of us, Paul is America 

This is so profound of a message…profound because of its timeless message of unity, strength, courage, bravery, intellect and skill during the intensity of war. We should never forget the sacrifices of those who have gone before us. Today, we are a nation in crisis and we must keep in mind how we got here. We’ve taken for granted the centuries of sacrifice of those who have gone before us and instead, we’ve allowed deep levels of corruption to creep into our republic. Now is not the time to give up, now is the time to stand up…be like those who came before us who faced the impossible with the God-given character that is built into each and everyone American.

I say Local Action has a National Impact for a reason. It will be each “Soldier” who figures out how he or she will do their duty when the times comes. It may be to vote and never giving up on fighting for the sacrosanctity and integrity of this right, it may be simply raising your family as best you can, or it may be stepping up to run for office at the local level…whatever you’re decision is to get involved, know that you are making a difference in your life, in your family’s life, and for your community and our country’s future.

God bless you and God bless America!!! 💪🏼🙏🏼🇺🇸

It’s too early to count chickens with the wolves and the foxes around after Tuesday’s rout in the Old Dominion state, but Virginia may be the best news we’ve had in a while that the message of the deep state is everywhere is penetrating.

Monica On Air@monicaonairtalk
The new party? POP. (Pissed off parents)
10:13 AM · Nov 3, 2021

A few odds and ends.

This actually explains a lot.

And that is the reality that the deep state doesn’t want published.

Carlin:

And about shocking turns of events.

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One of the obstacles to full understanding of just what the enemy is all about revolves around the concept of symbolism.

Symbolism actually evolved in Christianity prior to the splintering of the Faith in the west in the sixteenth century Anno Domini, and the rich tradition of said symbolism is one of the aspects of the culture that was destroyed along with a lot of stained glass windows, altar stones, and other art work when the revolt happened.

I’ve been collecting examples of symbolism, so as to better inform readers here what those symbols are, how to spot them, and what they mean. Rather than a big, long post I thought I would bring this history to the Thursday threads as they always seem to get short shrift.

So, the first symbol(s) actually need to be taken as a block: the man, lion, ox, and eagle.

From the Prophet Ezekiel, Chapter 1:

[1] Now it came to pass in the thirtieth year, in the fourth month, on the fifth day of the month, when I was in the midst of the captives by the river Chobar, the heavens were opened, and I saw the visions of God. [2] On the fifth day of the month, the same was the fifth year of the captivity of king Joachin, [3] The word of the Lord came to Ezechiel the priest the son of Buzi in the land of the Chaldeans, by the river Chobar: and the hand of the Lord was there upon him. [4] And I saw, and behold a whirlwind came out of the north: and a great cloud, and a fire infolding it, and brightness was about it: and out of the midst thereof, that is, out of the midst of the fire, as it were the resemblance of amber: [5] And in the midst thereof the likeness of four living creatures: and this was their appearance: there was the likeness of a man in them.

[6] Every one had four faces, and every one four wings. [7] Their feet were straight feet, and the sole of their foot was like the sole of a calf’s foot, and they sparkled like the appearance of glowing brass. [8] And they had the hands of a man under their wings on their four sides: and they had faces, and wings on the four sides, [9] And the wings of one were joined to the wings of another. They turned not when they went: but every one went straight forward. [10]And as for the likeness of their faces: there was the face of a man, and the face of a lion on the right side of all the four: and the face of an ox, on the left side of all the four: and the face of an eagle over all the four.

The man, lion, ox and eagle are almost always presented in Church buildings in a group:

Simply, they are the symbols of the Evangelists: Sts. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. (In my parents’ parish, they are with the statues of the Evangelists carved into the Altar itself.)

There are alternative meanings, though.

Four of the best-known animal forms still familiar to us today are the four beasts of the Gospels. From earliest Christian times, the man, the eagle, the lion and the ox, first seen in Ezekiel’s vision by the river Chebar and later by St. John surrounding the throne of God, have been accepted as the symbols of the four evangelists. The man symbolized St. Matthew, because his Gospel begins by stating the genealogy of the ancestors of Christ. The lion is St. Mark, who early in his Gospel speaks of a voice crying in the wilderness. The ox, the sacrificial animal of the Old Covenant, symbolizes St. Luke, whose Gospel opens with the sacrifice offered by Zacharias. The eagle, believed to be the only animal that could gaze straight into the light of the sun, is St. John, who in his Gospel soars into the mystery of the Incarnation of God so naturally and contemplates it so profoundly that he seems like an eagle flying toward the sun.

By the twelfth century, the medieval doctors of the Church had enlarged upon the symbolism of the four beasts to also recall the major events in the life of Christ. The man is the reminder that God became man in the Incarnation. The ox recalls the sacrificial victim of the New Law, Our Lord Jesus Christ and His Passion. The lion, a symbol of vigilance because it was believed to sleep with its eyes open, symbolized the Resurrection when Our Lord appeared to sleep in death, even though His divine nature never dies and remains watching. Finally, as the eagle rises to the unknown heights, Christ rose to Heaven in the Ascension.

But there was yet a third meaning and teaching in the four beasts, which also showed man the virtues he must practice. Every pilgrim on his arduous journey through life to heaven must be a man, because God gave to man alone the gift of reason, which he must use to achieve heaven. He must also be an ox, the sacrificial victim, because it is necessary to make penance and mortify the flesh. He must be the lion in his courage and noble hearted deeds. And he must pray and contemplate God and the things of eternity like the eagle, which looks straight into the sun.

These particular symbols are not necessarily used by the other side, but this is an introduction to how and why symbolism and the need for it from people who oppose Christianity in practice has been stressed.

If this is an interesting topic for us, I’ll pull another one or two next week.

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And now for the business portion.

Please review our HOST and site owner’s Guidelines for posting and discussion for this site. Wolf is kind enough to put up with *most* of us and our antics after thorough vetting. Violators of the baiting and deliberately attempting to divide the group rules WILL face consequences.

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LUKE 15:1-10

1Now the tax collectors and sinners were all drawing near to hear him. 2And the Pharisees and the scribes murmured, saying, “This man receives sinners and eats with them.” 3So he told them this parable: 4“What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he has lost one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost, until he finds it? 5And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing. 6And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and his neighbors, saying to them, `Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost.’ 7Just so, I tell you, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance. 8“Or what woman, having ten silver coins, if she loses one coin, does not light a lamp and sweep the house and seek diligently until she finds it? 9And when she has found it, she calls together her friends and neighbors, saying, `Rejoice with me, for I have found the coin which I had lost.’ 10Just so, I tell you, there is joy before the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”

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DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20211028

Bonus points for anyone who can tell the rest of us what those weapons are.

And he just happened to use a beagle for the photo.

Sure.

Nothing to see here. Move along.

https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1453124806321246212

Attorney General Merrick Garland was on Capitol Hill for today’s bread and circus exposition. Pick your poison:

https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1453149781912702976

Carlin:

And in honor of the end of baseball season…eventually.

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  1. No food fights
  2. No running with scissors
  3. If you bring snacks, be sure they are made with bacon

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On the Feast of St. Jude, Patron of policemen and hopeless cases.

PSALMS 19:2-5

1The heavens are telling the glory of God; and the firmament proclaims his handiwork. 2Day to day pours forth speech, and night to night declares knowledge. 3There is no speech, nor are there words; their voice is not heard; 4yet their voice goes out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them he has set a tent for the sun,

For some reason, I read that and thought of this, where the sixteenth notes are never true, and the congregation can’t keep up.

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DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20211021

https://twitter.com/RitrGrl/status/1450947280689840130

Yes, he did. Or his handlers did. Somebody did. At this point, even Democrats are begging for mean tweets and cheap gas.

And the mainstream media can be depended upon not to report that. Sort of like how they are not reporting any of the protesting we see on internet videos.

https://twitter.com/Zieleds/status/1450424091404472323

Why would that be? This might help.

https://twitter.com/Alec_Zeck/status/1450696297711902723

Speaking of which, the Biden camp as acquired enough Pfizer product to start shooting up primary and grade school aged children. With all luck the mama bears out there will protect their cubs from the big, bad government.

I said with all luck. See, this is a problem:

https://twitter.com/Alec_Zeck/status/1450705068844625923

As for the medical people….

Critical Thinking 101(Expert of Expert Evaluation)@critica18495985Replying to @Leftylockdowns1

Their education is largely influenced by the pharmaceutical industry. The world’s best selling medical textbook is Merck Manual, written by a pharmaceutical company. They are taught compartmentalized memorized knowledge. Very little principles and critical thinking.

Intellectual Property Isn’t@GaryOxide
Indeed. Many years ago I shared a house with a few medical students. I soon realized that they were actually on a seven-year long heavy indoctrination program, that trained them to stop thinking for themselves – ever. Those unwilling to comply simply never became doctors.

Unfortunately, I observed the same thing over the course of ten years working for a medical school.

The thing is, when it comes to medicine, and the lockstep mentality and not admitting mistakes, history is, to an extent, repeating itself.

General Powell’s vaccine was of no use against COVID. He submitted to experimental gene therapy in the hopes that it would protect him, and it did nothing for him. That hasn’t stopped the experts from proclaiming General Powell’s death as next door to proof that the vaccines are working.

Ian Sams, an adviser to the Department of Health and Human Services, is fretting on Twitter that what he is pleased to call the anti-vaxxers will use General Powell’s death as evidence that the vaccines may not be as efficient as advertised. A professor of Emergency Medicine at George Washington University, Dr. Leana Wen, huffs that news reports should mention that General Powell also suffered from cancer and Parkinson’s disease, which could have made the vaccine less efficacious. Dr. Wen also served as Baltimore’s health commissioner (and briefly as the head of Planned Parenthood, America’s premier abortion corporation —ed.), so she’s really an expert.

It all makes me think of another kind of expert, Dr. Ignaz Semmelweis, the physician who pioneered washing hands to prevent disease. Semmelweis actually knew what he was talking about because he ran the obstetrics wards at the Vienna General Hospital in Austria in the mid-19th century.

Semmelweis observed that, in those obstetrics wards that physicians attended, the mortality rate was high; in those that midwives attended, the mortality rate was low. The only difference between the doctors and the midwives was that doctors did autopsies and frequently delivered babies with the blood of the dead still on their hands.

Semmelweis concluded that something was clinging to the doctors’ hands that was harmful to the women giving birth.  Beginning in 1847, he began begging everyone to wash his hands with chlorine before going into the obstetrics wards.  The death rate plummeted.

Everyone should have been thrilled.  However, the medical community resented being accused of killing people.  To further discredit his ideas, although he was a Hungarian-born German, and may have been an atheist, a Catholic of Jewish descent, the rumor was spread that he was actively Jewish and, therefore, insulting Christian doctors.

Semmelweis was thrown out and, eventually, as his behavior became increasingly erratic (possibly Alzheimer’s or syphilis), he was relegated to an insane asylum, where it’s quite possible that attendants beat him to death.  The experts had spoken.  Evidence was not important when placed in the balance of what was politically correct and conformable to the accepted medical doctrines of the day.  This was back in the 1800s, and nothing has changed in the 21st century.

Experts and lies about COVID
By Pandra Selivanov

That doesn’t mean the people haven’t noticed the lies, and are taking action whether the “experts” realize it or not.

https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1450588890998480898

Are people REALLY quitting to stay at home on the dole, or are they hiding out until the shot fallout clears?

Critical Thinking 101(Expert of Expert Evaluation)@critica18495985
Fear is the virus. The super spreader is the media. A 100% effective vaccine for it is turn it off. Those who don’t take the vaccine endanger all of us, preventing us from stopping the spread.
2:55 PM · Oct 20, 2021

The worst of it is there’s a big cover up going on and it simply is not generating reporting or interest.

Biden orders OSHA to join the biggest cover up in human history

By Christopher Wright

OSHA has gone into full cover-up mode concerning adverse reactions to COVID vaccines. 

Late last month, Joe Biden told OSHA to hide information on vaccine injuries.  Yesterday, it was reported OSHA’s website now states OSHA will not require employers to report adverse reactions from the vaccines among their workers. 

The reason OSHA gives is astounding: they don’t want to hear about adverse reactions because they don’t want to discourage workers from getting vaccinated.  So much for the health and safety of the workers, which is the agency’s mission.  Workers have been sacrificed on the altar of the Biden administration’s phony narrative that the vaccines are completely safe.  Pravda has spoken. 

But that doesn’t prevent adverse reactions from continuing to pile up.  About 7,000 people had died shortly after receiving COVID vaccines when I first started tracking official government numbers in July.  The number of deaths has now passed 16,000 and the total number of adverse reactions — heart problems, blood clots, miscarriages, menstrual disruption, neurological symptoms, etc. — is approaching 800,000.  These numbers are off the charts compared to all other vaccines combined since the reporting system began 30 years ago.

Approximately 9,000 people in the U.S. have died after receiving a COVID vaccine in the last three months or so.  There are obviously problems with the vaccines, including problems for pregnant women and the babies they breastfeed, but nobody in authority will talk about them.  

leohomann.com

Here’s a point made by Lin Wood that needs to be considered when despairing that “nothing is happening.”

I can’t believe this man’s books are taught in college, and not dissected for what a society should NOT look like.

Some words of encouragement.

Carlin:

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ROMANS 6:19-23

19I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural limitations. For just as you once yielded your members to impurity and to greater and greater iniquity, so now yield your members to righteousness for sanctification. 20When you were slaves of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness. 21But then what return did you get from the things of which you are now ashamed? The end of those things is death. 22But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the return you get is sanctification and its end, eternal life. 23For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

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DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20211014

It can be feast or famine trying to find goodies for the patriots perched here at the Q Tree on a regular basis. On Tuesday afternoon, it seemed like there wasn’t much of anything out there.

On Wednesday…AVALANCHE.

Okay, maybe not an avalanche, but an abundance of riches, beginning with Archbishop Carl Maria Vigano who is still in hiding, and still speaking out about this abysmal “pope” and the wretched situation of the world under assault from “The Great Reset.”

This was posted on yesterday’s daily in the comments, and was discussed, although not at length.

https://twitter.com/Primordilian/status/1448026633705754624

The Malthusian ecologism, irenicist ecumenism (that is a prelude to the constitution of the universal religion), the “fourth revolution” theorized by Klaus Schwab and the families of international finance, find in Bergoglio not a neutral spectator – which would itself already be an unheard of thing – but actually a zealous cooperator, who abuses his own moral authority in order to support ad extra [outside the Church] the project of the dissolution of traditional society, while ad intra [within the Church] he pursues the project of the demolition of the Church in order to replace Her with a philanthropic organization of Masonic inspiration. …

The persecution we are witnessing today is no different from that of decades past, but now it has been extended to the masses, while previously it focused on individuals and the ruling class. This applies to both the civil and ecclesiastical world – confirming the pactum sceleris [criminal conspiracy] between the deep state and the deep church. It seems to me that in this conspiracy the role of the Jesuits has been decisive, and it is no coincidence that for the first time in history a religious of the Society of Jesus is seated on the Throne of Peter, [in violation of the Rule established by Saint Ignatius of Loyola].

This is actually part of a LONG interview that occurred in late September, and was transcribed at Inside the Vatican. The full interview is very revealing. (Please go to the link to read the transcript.) The full interview addresses many topics specific to Catholicism, but does include this gems like this interspersed within the Church talk:

We find ourselves trapped in an impasse, a dead end, from which we cannot escape as long as we do not recognize it for what it is. If we think that the present crisis can be solved by addressing ourselves to the civil or religious authority, as if we were in conditions of relative normality, we continue to not understand that the responsibility for this crisis lays precisely in a betrayal carried out by those hold authority. We cannot ask for justice for a wrong we have suffered if the judge who ought to condemn those who infringe on our rights is their accomplice. We cannot turn to politicians, expecting them to revoke the violation of our fundamental freedoms, if they are the very ones voting for these violations in Parliaments because they obey those who pay them or blackmail them.

Vigano then followed this interview with a letter to his fellow Italians who are in the fight of their lives trying to avoid the green pass, the European version of vaccine passports. Here is an excerpt:

I mentioned a little while ago about the labyrinth into which we entered. More precisely, a labyrinth in which we found ourselves following those who promised us to get out, knowing full well that it has no exit. With every step we have taken, entering the maze of this labyrinth, we have strayed and lost.

Because this is a labyrinth.

    A tangle of pseudo-scientific statements, logical contradictions, apodictic proclamations, dogmas proclaimed by the new Covid priests, by the pandemic Sanhedrin.

    There is nothing consequential or rational in what we are told and it is precisely in believing that what they tell us makes sense that we go further and further into the labyrinth.

    “Let’s get vaccinated to save the frail and the elderly people who cannot be vaccinated,” they told us. “While we vaccinate the frail and the elderly, let’s get vaccinated in order to remove the mask and start living again,” they said… and soon after we discovered that not only should we have to wear the mask but that one dose of serum was no longer enough and not even two, maybe not even three.

    Meanwhile, the frail and the elderly die of Covid even after the double dose, and if they survive and because in hospitals – deny it if you can – for some time Covid patients have been given Azithromycin [& Ivermectin], making it appear as a cure against intestinal parasites but knowing full well that it is used against the virus, so as not to undermine the credibility of vaccines, certainly not for the health of patients.

    We have to get out of this labyrinth dear friends, but we cannot get out by simply protesting against the Green Pass, which is only the most recent repressive tool and certainly not the last. Certainly the Green Pass is a legal aberration, a hateful blackmail, a proof of the pretext of the pandemic alarm.

    But even if they revoke the Green Pass, the absurdity of considering a curable virus deadly that has not caused more deaths than those of the past years would remain. the absurdity of wearing masks that are not only useless by the experts’ own admission but which, on the contrary, cause serious lung diseases and brain pathologies.

    The absurdity of considering a vaccine as a drug that does not serve to give immunity and that proves to have such serious side effects as to overtake the deaths of all vaccines in the last ten years in just a few months of administration. The absurdity of letting us inoculate an experimental drug that acts on our DNA, making us genetically modified organisms.

    The absurdity of following directions, protocols that seem written by sorcerers and not by conscientious doctors, given the series of checks that have now reached the pathetic. the absurdity of calculating seriously and calmly to statements so scandalous and false as not to deserve an answer.

    That of Draghi, “whoever gets vaccinated is saved, whoever does not get vaccinated dies,” is a lie.

And then a surprise came from Mollie Hemingway, the nominally mainstream media figure who contributes at Fox News. She wanted to find out just what happened in the 2020 general election and so she did the legwork and investigative reporting that resulted in a book titled Rigged. She spoke with Brian Kilmeade about her efforts:

A partial transcript can be found at Real Clear Politics:

I wanted to know exactly what happened during the campaign so for me that means I interview everybody involved at the state and the national level, and I did find out that this election was unlike any election we’d ever had. People already knew that the media environment was corrupt, just like you just talked about, they suppressed that Hunter Biden story which was explosive, they elevated fake news, they knew that big tech had manipulated. They did not want to have any information out that helps their political opponents or hurt their political allies, so they censored information and they de-platformed people, and they also changed a lot of our election laws. Sometimes they did that legally and constitutionally, sometimes they didn’t, and Mark Zuckerberg, one of the world’s wealthiest individuals, funded the private takeover of government election offices. And that enabled a bunch of left wing activists to come into government election offices and actually handle many things, from voter registration to voting to vote counting.

Remember, fellow QTreepers, this book and effort was written for the normies who still are in the process of waking up, not us.

Other things found on the daily tour:

SpookyJay @SpookyJay36
The true role of Fact Checkers are Reality Keepers. Whenever we say something that disturbs their reality, they run to PolitiFact for reassurance that everything is ok. It doesn’t matter what PolitiFact says…they’re just looking for confirmation.10:13 PM · Oct 12, 2021

Eric Matheny @EricMMatheny
Americans are being conditioned to treat normalcy – trick-or-treating with your kids, for instance – as a great privilege bestowed unto you by a benevolent God King (Government). I’ve been saying this for a year and a half. We are all part of an enormous social experiment.9:46 PM · Oct 12, 2021

Kennedy Hall@kennedyhall
Testing vaccines on a fetus proves it is a person. It is human testing for human medicine.7:17 AM · Oct 13, 2021

daniel alexander@Alec_Zeck
Imagine the mental gymnastics it takes to, on one hand, despise historically corrupt corporations that harm and exploit people for profit but vehemently defend the position of historically corrupt pharmaceutical corporations that harm and exploit people for profit on the other.10:53 AM · Oct 13, 2021

Richard S.@Richard_S_9411
You’re scared of a virus because you’ve been told to be scared of it. You’re not scared of experimental vaccines, loss of liberty, and the harmful effects of lockdowns and wearing masks because you’ve been told not to be scared of them. You are programmed.10:41 AM · Oct 13, 2021

Gunther Eagleman LEO Retired@GuntherEagleman
Fun Fact: American made products don’t get stuck on cargo ships…
7:01 AM · Oct 13, 2021

Carlin:

And, by the way, the Rolling Stones retired their song “Brown Sugar” due to cancel culture.

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Be careful in expressing thoughts as we would all like to think well of the rest of the group, and ill-thought out comments have a way of wrecking that for everyone.

Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights
  2. No running with scissors
  3. If you bring snacks, be sure they are made with bacon

Auntie DePat’s requests as we are all supposedly adults and don’t just play them on TV like the body doubles pretending to be the squatter in chief:

If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.

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ROMANS 3:21-30

21But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from law, although the law and the prophets bear witness to it, 22the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction; 23since all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24they are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus, 25whom God put forward as an expiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God’s righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins; 26it was to prove at the present time that he himself is righteous and that he justifies him who has faith in Jesus. 27Then what becomes of our boasting? It is excluded. On what principle? On the principle of works? No, but on the principle of faith. 28For we hold that a man is justified by faith apart from works of law. 29Or is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, 30since God is one; and he will justify the circumcised on the ground of their faith and the uncircumcised through their faith.

LUKE 11:47-54

47Woe to you! for you build the tombs of the prophets whom your fathers killed. 48So you are witnesses and consent to the deeds of your fathers; for they killed them, and you build their tombs. 49Therefore also the Wisdom of God said, `I will send them prophets and apostles, some of whom they will kill and persecute,’ 50that the blood of all the prophets, shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation, 51from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechari’ah, who perished between the altar and the sanctuary. Yes, I tell you, it shall be required of this generation. 52Woe to you lawyers! for you have taken away the key of knowledge; you did not enter yourselves, and you hindered those who were entering.” 53As he went away from there, the scribes and the Pharisees began to press him hard, and to provoke him to speak of many things, 54lying in wait for him, to catch at something he might say.

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DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20211007

First things first:

Using fetal tissue lines is a no go for a lot of humans. Those babies, as fetus is Latin for baby, were once someone’s daughters or sons.

This has been on my mind of late:

From the Gospel According to St. Matthew, Chapter Four:

Jesus was led by the spirit into the desert, to be tempted by the devil. [2] And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, afterwards he was hungry. [3] And the tempter coming said to him: If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread. [4] Who answered and said: It is written, Not in bread alone doth man live, but in every word that proceedeth from the mouth of God. 
[5] Then the devil took him up into the holy city, and set him upon the pinnacle of the temple,[6] And said to him: If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down, for it is written: That he hath given his angels charge over thee, and in their hands shall they bear thee up, lest perhaps thou dash thy foot against a stone. [7] Jesus said to him: It is written again: Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. [8] Again the devil took him up into a very high mountain, and shewed him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them, [9] And said to him: All these will I give thee, if falling down thou wilt adore me. [10] Then Jesus saith to him: Begone, Satan: for it is written, The Lord thy God shalt thou adore, and him only shalt thou serve. [11] Then the devil left him; and behold angels came and ministered to him.

At first, I thought about this as a sibling rivalry, but really, the better comparison comes from Jane Austen’s Pride and Prejudice. The true Son, and the servant (Mr. Wickham) who is found wanting. We are seeing this unfold before our very eyes.

That looked like it hurt.

Just sayin’.

Nuremberg II. PLEASE!

https://twitter.com/4_04_Not_Found/status/1445653766208774144

Heart failure in young people is NOT NORMAL, no matter what governments want all of us to accept as “truth.”

https://twitter.com/4_04_Not_Found/status/1445667656091066372

Psychopaths….

I had a former suitor who had many of these characteristics.

And then they will know I was right.

https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1445200786649198605

Carlin:

Check out the prices on the sign.

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THAT MEANS THAT ALL OF US HERE ARE ENTITLED TO OUR OPINIONS AND PREJUDICES, ETC., SO LONG AS THEY CAUSE NO PHYSICAL HARM TO OTHERS OR DOXX OUR FELLOW TREE DWELLERS.

All opinions here are valued for the diversity they bring to the issues, and the shaping of understanding regarding topics for which many of us do not have all information. Correcting the record on any one topic is appreciated.

Be careful in expressing thoughts as we would all like to think well of the rest of the group, and ill-thought out comments have a way of wrecking that for everyone.

Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights
  2. No running with scissors
  3. If you bring snacks, be sure they are made with bacon

Auntie DePat’s requests as we are all supposedly adults and don’t just play them on TV like the body doubles pretending to be the squatter in chief:

If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.

The scroll wheel on your mouse can be your friend. As mature adults, please use it here in the same manner you would in avoiding online porn.

Thank you so much for any and all attention to such details. It is GREATLY appreciated by more than one party here.

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For those who are “papists” today is Our Lady of the Rosary. The original mysteries of the Annunciation, Visitation, Nativity, Presentation., Finding Jesus in the Temple, Agony in the Garden, Scourging at the Pillar, Crowning of Thorns, Carrying the Cross, Crucifixion, Resurrection, Ascension, Pentecost are prayed (as happens year round) along with the Sacred Tradition of the Assumption and the Crowning of Our Lady Queen of Heaven and Earth. (Pope Saint John Paul II added another group of mysteries, but the ones mentioned are the original group of mysteries), three divisions (Joyful, Sorrowful, and Glorious) with five decades a piece.

LUKE 1:46-55 (this is technically a canticle)

46And Mary said, “My soul magnifies the Lord, 47and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, 48for he has regarded the low estate of his handmaiden. For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed; 49for he who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is his name. 50And his mercy is on those who fear him from generation to generation. 51He has shown strength with his arm, he has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts, 52he has put down the mighty from their thrones, and exalted those of low degree; 53he has filled the hungry with good things, and the rich he has sent empty away. 54He has helped his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy, 55as he spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to his posterity for ever.”

Gospel

LUKE 1:26-38

26In the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth, 27to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin’s name was Mary. 28And he came to her and said, “Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with you!” 29But she was greatly troubled at the saying, and considered in her mind what sort of greeting this might be. 30And the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. 31And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus. 32He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Most High; and the Lord God will give to him the throne of his father David, 33and he will reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there will be no end.” 34And Mary said to the angel, “How shall this be, since I have no husband?” 35And the angel said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy, the Son of God. 36And behold, your kinswoman Elizabeth in her old age has also conceived a son; and this is the sixth month with her who was called barren. 37For with God nothing will be impossible.” 38And Mary said, “Behold, I am the handmaid of the Lord; let it be to me according to your word.” And the angel departed from her.

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DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20210930

October begins tomorrow. Wonder what it has in store for us this year.

And don’t we know it. The uniparty is alive and well. It does serve its own purposes.

The enemy of Man never sleeps, that’s for sure.

https://twitter.com/critica18495985/status/1443266170665279488

The new socialist order is no different from the old one.

Meanwhile, in China….

https://twitter.com/Zieleds/status/1438856064200372228

They want us divided in a way that’s not been done in this nation before.

The people are waking up and beginning to see the agenda.

https://twitter.com/mmk_blahblah/status/1443053072348024833

It does seem that way, doesn’t it.

Okay, now wait, calling the clot shots “VINO” is an insult to wine in a number of languages.

So, one guy @Jack’s place got his vaccination passport.

Very effective use of the acronym that began life in English jails under Queen Elizabeth I. It was short for the crime “For Using Carnal Knowledge.” Yes, the woman outlawed conjugal relations.

And in election fraud news:

https://twitter.com/4_04_Not_Found/status/1442926554632241152

For those who missed it yesterday.

https://twitter.com/4_04_Not_Found/status/1443115723178532866

These people have run out of ideas. The Tin Man is not amused.

Carlin:

Check out the prices on the sign.

And now for the business portion.

Please review our HOST and site owner’s Guidelines for posting and discussion for this site. Wolf is kind enough to put up with *most* of us and our antics after thorough vetting. Violators of the baiting and deliberately attempting to divide the group rules WILL face consequences.

The discourse on this site is to be CIVIL – no name calling, baiting, or threatening others here is allowed. Company manners are appreciated. Those who are so inclined may visit Wolf’s other sanctuary, the U-Tree, to slog out discussions best saved for a wrestling mat. If, for some reason, this site is not available, head over to the UTree and visit the post at the top of the list or the closest rescue thread.

This site is a celebration of the natural rights endowed to humans by our Creator as well as those enshrined in the Bill of Rights adopted in the founding documents of the United States of America. Within the limits of law, how we exercise these rights is part of the freedom of our discussion.

THAT MEANS THAT ALL OF US HERE ARE ENTITLED TO OUR OPINIONS AND PREJUDICES, ETC., SO LONG AS THEY CAUSE NO PHYSICAL HARM TO OTHERS OR DOXX OUR FELLOW TREE DWELLERS.

All opinions here are valued for the diversity they bring to the issues, and the shaping of understanding regarding topics for which many of us do not have all information. Correcting the record on any one topic is appreciated.

Be careful in expressing thoughts as we would all like to think well of the rest of the group, and ill-thought out comments have a way of wrecking that for everyone.

Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights
  2. No running with scissors
  3. If you bring snacks, be sure they are made with bacon

Auntie DePat’s requests as we are all supposedly adults and don’t just play them on TV like the body doubles pretending to be the squatter in chief:

If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.

The scroll wheel on your mouse can be your friend. As mature adults, please use it here in the same manner you would in avoiding online porn.

Thank you so much for any and all attention to such details. It is GREATLY appreciated by more than one party here.

____________________________________________________

MATTHEW 13:47-52

47“Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net which was thrown into the sea and gathered fish of every kind; 48when it was full, men drew it ashore and sat down and sorted the good into vessels but threw away the bad. 49So it will be at the close of the age. The angels will come out and separate the evil from the righteous, 50and throw them into the furnace of fire; there men will weep and gnash their teeth. 51“Have you understood all this?” They said to him, “Yes.” 52And he said to them, “Therefore every scribe who has been trained for the kingdom of heaven is like a householder who brings out of his treasure what is new and what is old.”

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DEAR MAGA: Open Thread 20210923

For those who haven’t seen it.

3907

Mar 28 2020

3907Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 ID: fead75 No.8601061 
Mar 28 2020 14:21:09 (EST)

The entire world is watching.
Patriots from around the world are praying for AMERICA.
We are all bound by a feeling deep inside, a feeling that cannot be publicly expressed for fear of ridicule, a feeling that challenges the mainstream (narrative), against that which we are told to accept and dare not question, put simply, that people are being abused by those in power and time is running out.
Remember the battles of Lexington and Concord – “Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death!”
For far too long we have been silent and allowed our bands of strength, that we once formed to defend FREEDOM and LIBERTY, to deteriorate.
We became divided.
We became weak.
We elected TRAITORS to govern us.
We allowed EVIL to prey on us.
Those who claimed to represent us gave us false hope, made false promises.
The evil and corruption only grew.
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This is more than party politics.
This is about restoring OLD GLORY.
This is about saving our land and our people from those who wish us harm.
This is about preserving our REPUBLIC.
This is about preserving our SAFETY.
This is about restoring our STRENGTH.
This is about LIFE, LIBERTY, and the PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.
This is about PROTECTING our children.
THIS IS ABOUT SAVING AMERICA.
We are all God’s children.
We are, FATHERS.
We are, MOTHERS.
We are, DAUGHTERS.
We are, SONS.
We are, BROTHERS.
We are, SISTERS.
We do not look at race.
We do not look at skin color.
We are UNITED in these STATES OF AMERICA.
We are, and will always be, PATRIOTS.
WE MUST RISE AGAIN.
WE MUST UNITE AGAIN.
WE MUST FIGHT AGAIN.
FOR GOD & COUNTRY.
GOD BLESS AMERICA.
WWG1WGA!!!
Q

Have you ever stopped to think about what life would be like here in the United States if we did not have the Bill of Rights?

A quick look around the world as the “COVID” lockdowns continue shows us just what could happen if we:

  • Did not have the right to speak our minds even if social media platforms take down the messaging. No one has been jailed for it, and effectively, the censorship is magnified when this happens.
  • Did not have the right to peacefully assemble, even if the local governments think they can limit the numbers of people in any one place. (Who actually paid attention to this one when whoever it was said, no more than six family members? I know families that max that out just with their kids.)
  • Did not have the right to religion, and not having an official state religion, the leaders of the various branches of worship technically do not have to really go along with government edicts.
  • Did not have the right to not just petition the government, but sue when human rights are on the line.
  • Did not have the right to point a weapon at a physical threat. Just being able to own a weapon keeps things more civil.
  • Did not have the right to refuse entry to government forces, i.e., police, FBI, and others, without cause.
  • And, this is not enshrined in the founding documents of the nation, but what if we did not have the right to privacy for our medical records?

What if?

We’re seeing “what if” in video and stories coming from Australia, specifically, among other places around the world. The people there are living a nightmare we CAN and ARE avoiding due to the foresight of our founders. The Biden camp is giving it a shot, putting us in a tyrannical situation, but it really isn’t working the way they intended given that we have these rights and there’s not a darn thing they can do about it.

Not only that, we exercise those rights.

Are we making good use of it?

It’s a good question given that in the United States, compared to the rest of the world, the public demonstrations have been muted largely due to the threat of the movement being blamed for a false flag. Yes, there is a lot of movement at the local level, which is a good thing, and people are being entrenched in the election system, but are we really giving it all to protect the freedoms that the founders secured?

That is a question yet to be answered. When the Patriot Act is rescinded, we’ll be on the right track. No more of this going along to get along.

Understanding this point, is, IMO anyway, what constitutes THE GREAT AWAKENING.

Are we there yet?

Carlin:

A little mood music.

Brings back memories.

And now for the business portion.

Please review our HOST and site owner’s Guidelines for posting and discussion for this site. Wolf is kind enough to put up with *most* of us and our antics after thorough vetting. Violators of the baiting and deliberately attempting to divide the group rules WILL face consequences.

The discourse on this site is to be CIVIL – no name calling, baiting, or threatening others here is allowed. Company manners are appreciated. Those who are so inclined may visit Wolf’s other sanctuary, the U-Tree, to slog out discussions best saved for a wrestling mat. If, for some reason, this site is not available, head over to the UTree and visit the post at the top of the list or the closest rescue thread.

This site is a celebration of the natural rights endowed to humans by our Creator as well as those enshrined in the Bill of Rights adopted in the founding documents of the United States of America. Within the limits of law, how we exercise these rights is part of the freedom of our discussion.

THAT MEANS THAT ALL OF US HERE ARE ENTITLED TO OUR OPINIONS AND PREJUDICES, ETC., SO LONG AS THEY CAUSE NO PHYSICAL HARM TO OTHERS OR DOXX OUR FELLOW TREE DWELLERS.

All opinions here are valued for the diversity they bring to the issues, and the shaping of understanding regarding topics for which many of us do not have all information. Correcting the record on any one topic is appreciated.

Be careful in expressing thoughts as we would all like to think well of the rest of the group, and ill-thought out comments have a way of wrecking that for everyone.

Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights
  2. No running with scissors
  3. If you bring snacks, be sure they are made with bacon

Auntie DePat’s requests as we are all supposedly adults and don’t just play them on TV like the body doubles pretending to be the squatter in chief:

If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.

The scroll wheel on your mouse can be your friend. As mature adults, please use it here in the same manner you would in avoiding online porn.

Thank you so much for any and all attention to such details. It is GREATLY appreciated by more than one party here.

____________________________________________________

These are actually from Friday’s Mass readings.

HAGGAI 2:1-9

1in the seventh month, on the twenty-first day of the month, the word of the LORD came by Haggai the prophet, 2“Speak now to Zerub’babel the son of She-al’ti-el, governor of Judah, and to Joshua the son of Jehoz’adak, the high priest, and to all the remnant of the people, and say, 3`Who is left among you that saw this house in its former glory? How do you see it now? Is it not in your sight as nothing? 4Yet now take courage, O Zerub’babel, says the LORD; take courage, O Joshua, son of Jehoz’adak, the high priest; take courage, all you people of the land, says the LORD; work, for I am with you, says the LORD of hosts, 5according to the promise that I made you when you came out of Egypt. My Spirit abides among you; fear not. 6For thus says the LORD of hosts: Once again, in a little while, I will shake the heavens and the earth and the sea and the dry land; 7and I will shake all nations, so that the treasures of all nations shall come in, and I will fill this house with splendor, says the LORD of hosts. 8The silver is mine, and the gold is mine, says the LORD of hosts. 9The latter splendor of this house shall be greater than the former, says the LORD of hosts; and in this place I will give prosperity, says the LORD of hosts.

PSALMS 43:1-4

1Vindicate me, O God, and defend my cause against an ungodly people; from deceitful and unjust men deliver me! 2For thou art the God in whom I take refuge; why hast thou cast me off? Why go I mourning because of the oppression of the enemy? 3Oh send out thy light and thy truth; let them lead me, let them bring me to thy holy hill and to thy dwelling! 4Then I will go to the altar of God, to God my exceeding joy; and I will praise thee with the lyre, O God, my God.

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https://youtu.be/NazOhSUx-fY