“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
Let me put the KILL SHOT on these “red flag laws” right up front.
Hard to read that graphic. Let’s make things just a bit more clear.
Now you MAY be saying “BUT WOLF – THAT’S NOT THE SECOND AMENDMENT – THAT’S THE *FIRST* AMENDMENT!“
To which I say “EXACTLY.“
Here is the explanation. It is, for lack of a better metaphor, how the Second Amendment and the First Amendment PEACEFULLY protect each other – by saying WWG1WGA.
Any “red flag law” that doesn’t EXPLICITLY PROTECT – better still EXCLUDE – all Constitutionally protected speech, beliefs, associations, and assembly, is not worth the paper that it’s written on.
The reason is that, absent explicit protections and exclusions, such laws may be interpreted in practice to deny citizens of their First Amendment freedoms – particularly SPEECH – by construing protected activities to be in conflict with other rights – specifically our SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS.
(This stuff used to be common knowledge before American crypto-Sovietism, by the way.)
This has often been referred to as a “chilling effect” – a sneaky form of infringement which is typically brought forth under the guise of laws utterly unrelated to speech, religion, or other First Amendment-protected activities. Enemies of First Amendment exercise will “hold other rights hostage” in a way that “chills” our claim to those First Amendment rights, lest we see the OTHER rights denied or potentially infringed. In almost ALL these cases, the parties backing such laws desire to infringe on BOTH freedoms, but will take either one, by constructing a FAILED law which puts them into apparent conflict.
The Constitution says NO – there IS no valid conflict, and if you are attempting to create one, even accidentally, then you are creating UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAW.
Wolf Moon, Annoying Patriot, and Son of the American Revolution
SO BTFO, COMMUNISTS!
Republican lawmakers who think it necessary to have such “red flag” laws should TAKE NOTE before signing them. An ABSENCE of explicit Constitutional protections of SPEECH is, in my humble opinion, sufficient reason to veto ANY such legislation.
Our GENIUS President, Donald J. Trump, has personally given a demonstration of how this works, in a joking (well…. who knows…..) tweet. AND I QUOTE:
Would Chris Cuomo be given a Red Flag for his recent rant? Filthy language and a total loss of control. He shouldn’t be allowed to have any weapon. He’s nuts!
There you have it – the REALITY of “red flag” laws for millions of wonderful, trustworthy, but perhaps “not careful with their tongues” Americans. INCLUDING CHRIS CUOMO! Who I don’t particularly like, but whose rights to angrily argue and own a gun I will defend to the DEATH!
The responses were uniformly BRUTAL for red flag laws.
SO – let’s look at this more closely.
Is Jack Posobiec right? Are “red flag” laws unconstitutional?
In my opinion, red flag laws CAN be constitutional. But I am not even sure if ANY of the existing ones are. And THAT is scary.
Ohio is proposing a red flag law which is designed to avoid many of the pitfalls of existing red flag laws. But even the proposed Ohio law really “needs some work”, in my opinion.
First of all, red flag laws need to respect both the SECOND and FOURTH Amendments.
Here is Dick Heller, of the famous Heller case, talking to OAN about this:
The SECOND Amendment is rather obvious. The FOURTH Amendment is more concerned with warrants, seizure of property, and probable cause – all of which are made more sketchy in red flag laws, when a JUDGE has not actually reviewed the evidence with opposing counsel present. THINK FISA COURT. Gun SEIZURE without the ability to challenge it IMMEDIATELY or better still BEFOREHAND is an idea that does not sit well with this here critter.
Now WOLF MOON – who thinks SCOTUS got the “gay marriage” thing all wrong by not using the FIRST AMENDMENT to protect both gay marriage AND polygamy, is often in the habit of picking DIFFERENT Amendments to defend freedoms. This time is NO DIFFERENT.
Yes, I agree with the Second and the Fourth, but I believe that the SIXTH and the FIRST are also very important here. We’ve talked about the FIRST – what about the SIXTH?
Some people might be A-OK with the idea of just giving up their guns, not being arrested, and arguing about it all later, but NOT THIS HERE WOLF.
“I WANT AN ARRESS!”
In fact. to be completely clear, I want an arrest, and a hearing with MY LAWYER and a JUDGE, and I want it BEFORE my guns are taken. This gives me my MAXIMUM rights under BOTH the Fourth and the Sixth Amendments.
Trust me – THIS OPTION is the most Constitutional of all. I will have WAIVED NO RIGHTS in picking this option.
SO – let me summarize. In my opinion, a potentially Constitutional red flag law must:
not take away my stringently guaranteed 2nd Amendment rights without due cause
respect the due processes of the 4th Amendment in a HUGE and optimal way
explicitly guarantee my FULL 1st Amendment rights, NEVER using protected speech, beliefs, or activities in any fashion to take away my 2nd Amendment rights
better still, EXPLICITLY EXCLUDE all 1st Amendment protected things, including speech, writings, religion, beliefs, assembly, associations, and memberships
allow arrest without seizure and a prompt hearing with legal representation, for MAXIMUM 4th and 6th Amendment rights
include strong deterrents for abuse in BOTH criminal AND civil law
Are you starting to see how much difference current red flag laws have from this ideal, with the ideal probably passing review by SCOTUS, and current laws actually being somewhat doubtful?
I’m kinda thinking Jack Posobiec is right.
NOW – let’s look at an example. This will demonstrate both the Constitutional requirements AND how SAFE a properly constructed “red flag” law could actually be – if enforced HONESTLY by HONEST law enforcement, including an HONEST FBI (cough, cough, COUGH, COUGH).
I have a person who believes in a CRAZY RELIGION. The crazy religion says that in order to go to heaven, one has to defend the religion violently against all non-believers, cutting off their heads. This person goes online and AGREES WITH ALL THIS, repeats it, and argues vociferously and ANGRILY for it, because he is a MUSLIM.
But in real life, he’s a nice guy, and has never even struck anybody.
Sorry – according to WOLF’S version of a CONSTITUTIONAL red flag law, this guy cannot even be “red-flagged”, and if anybody tries it, Peaceful Angry Muslim has grounds to SUE.
Like it or not, what YOU consider “crazy beliefs” are PROTECTED by the First Amendment.
Even VIOLENT BELIEFS are protected by the First Amendment.
EVEN HATE SPEECH and ANGRY SPEECH are protected by the First Amendment.
Even HATE GROUP ASSOCIATIONS and MEMBERSHIPS are protected by the First Amendment.
EVEN CRAZY SPEECH AND BELIEFS ARE PROTECTED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT.
Violent actions are NOT protected.
So Violent-Talking Angry Muslim who never hurts anybody gets his gun.
Are we done yet? Can we still SAFELY have “red flag” laws with all these Constitutional protections and restraints?
Sadly, the answer is NO.
No, because the HOLDER/MUELLER/LYNCH/COMEY FBI – still politicized as hell, is DESPERATELY pushing for those unconstitutional, Nazi-style laws of the LEFT…..
Check out this FBI political move against 1A/2A in Ohio. Bust a kid in mom's basement for ranting about Waco (as in, protected speech), and then count MOM and DAD'S GUNS and AMMO in the "horrifying" numbers.
Here is the article. I URGE YOU TO READ IT – especially between the lines. You will see how this is 99% propaganda of the moment. Digging up old posts to push for NAZI gun laws.
They took this kid’s PARENTS’ GUNS to spice up the numbers, took his posts to paint him as a danger, and DESPERATELY tried to create a SECOND PUNCH after DUBIOUS DAYTON.
Only – well – it’s kind of a FAIL.
This is exactly the political stuff that the now-ruined CLINTON-OBAMA FBI pulled on President Trump. So do you know what I think now?
I think there is excellent reason to believe that the HOLDER FBI has been pulling ALL of these sketchy gun-ban propaganda mass shootings. The only difference here is that they’re running low on “MK specials” who can be manipulated into pulling off their shit. So they’re resorting to backing up their DAYTON SATAN mass shooter with a KID who – wonder of wonders – lives in the same state.
SAD, SAD, SAD.
This is why red flag laws are communist bullshit. They are not only of sketchy probable FBI / Deep State origin and definite FBI propaganda backing – they are simply TOO ABUSABLE.
Sorry – even if I saw a red flag law that EXCEEDED my recommendations here, I tend to believe that it would STILL BE ABUSED by political elements in the FBI.
If you’re not familiar with “red flag” laws, then you had best get there quickly. This new attack on the Second Amendment is actually WAY WORSE than any previous one, and constitutes what may be the most cunning attack on the CORE values of America EVER. The more I have learned about these laws, and analyzed them beyond that, the more alarmed I have become.
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FYI in Australia we have no right to firearms, need licenses, gun safes bolted to the floor and wall, ammo stored in seperate compartments, regular check-ups by state agencies etc and “red flag laws” have always been a thing here.
A colleague of mine had his firearms confiscated by the state after attending a rally against immigration policy. He took the state to court and after several months won his case and was able to recover his firearms, only to have the state then cancel his firearms license on a separate technicality, related to his “unsuitable character”.
Another colleague who was a regular attendee at political rallies has had his property raided by police at least three times in the past eighteen months, police claim to be “searching for illegal firearms”. They never find any and have no reason to believe they will, officers carrying out the raids have verbally apologised to him after each search, informing him that they’re just following orders.
Another man I know was gun pointed inside his own home by police after getting involved in a brief fist-fight with Antifa, after trying to attend the Milo event in Melbourne’s North. His wife and children watched their father cuffed at gun point inside his own house, before being taken to the police station to be questioned, then charged with “affray” –But the charge was later dropped.
This is what “red-flag laws” will get you in America. Regardless of the noble excuses the state and its pawns will make, this is how these laws are actually used in practice.
At first, I was only gathering and looking at OTHER PEOPLE’S concerns. But then I started thinking about things on my own. I started putting FACTS together. I started asking what the EFFECTS of red flag laws – already known in Australia – would be on America.
I suddenly realized what is going on.
El Paso and Dayton are not merely about this election. They are about REVERSING THE TRUMP PHENOMENON for good. They are about UNDOING the “Q” movement. They are about restoring the FAKE NEWS. They are about SAVING GLOBALISM and DESTROYING AMERICANISM. And AMERICA.
And yet, it almost seems like we’re sleepwalking right into these damn things.
So here you go. THIS is what these SICK laws are actually all about.
10. Red flag laws make SPEECH a RISK.
This was a profound realization – that RED FLAG LAWS CHILL FREE SPEECH FOR GUN OWNERS. Almost all of whom support TRUMP, by the way. Real “coincidence” there.
Gun owners CANNOT afford to “take chances” and “say the wrong thing”.
Think about what I just said. Think how ORWELLIAN that is.
What this means, then, is that Red Flag laws are in fact a profound attack on the FIRST Amendment, disguised as an attack on the SECOND Amendment.
They create an ARTIFICIAL CONTRADICTION between the FIRST and SECOND Amendments.
They conflate speech and violence on LEFTIST IDEOLOGICAL TERMS – using leftist minds as judges – just like Vysotsky’s Soviet ANTIFA does. Just like ANTIFA was DESIGNED to do.
ANTIFA, filled with boys who call themselves girls, and girls who call themselves boys, who says speech is violence, and violence is speech.
This is sneaky as hell. Frankly, I cannot imagine that even a cunning POS like Cryin’ Chuck, or a shifty old witch like CHI-FI, could think this stuff up.
Let me put it this way. If it wan’t CHINA that came up with red flag, it was probably ALIENS.
Pencil-necks. You know what I’m saying. THESE GUYS.
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9. Red flag laws turn neighbor against neighbor.
Again, this is incredibly insidious. Of course, COMMUNISTS and NAZIS love to DIVIDE people, but Americans? HOLY MOLY. I want to get along with my liberal neighbors. All this is going to do is generate suspicions and recriminations.
Yes, the COMMUNISTS who have taken over the Democrat party probably want MORE DIVISION, but that is the OPPOSITE of what Trump wants.
So why should we do it? As TRUMP supporters, we don’t WANT more division and suspicion.
8. Anonymous reporting makes political abuse a certainty.
Being able to CONFRONT ONE’S ACCUSER is a CORNERSTONE of our Constitutional rights. This is the SIXTH Amendment. This is the heart of DUE PROCESS.
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
Sixth Amendment
This ability to confront accusers, before FINAL ACTION is taken, serves to LIMIT the power of anonymous accusations or suspicions. People cannot “get what they want” by an accusation without DEFENDING IT FIRST in a courtroom.
At least, that was the way it was SUPPOSED to work.
SIDEBAR: Note that there is an opposite problem, when the media and FBI only work for one party, in that anonymous PUBLIC accusations are the only recourse – WHISTLE-BLOWING, basically.
Yes, we have something called “anonymous tips”. But in that case, police are required to investigate and THEN decide based upon their OWN investigation if there is REASONABLE CAUSE to take action. With “red flag” laws, police are compelled to act BEFORE there is even proof of a crime. Unproven accusations are usable to CONFISCATE ARMS – the FINAL ACTION of the process. THIS IS BACKWARDS LOGIC.
This is COMMUNIST and POLITICAL.
Once again, Communists are up to their FAVORITE TRICK – the politicization of processes. Just like the Communists now running the Democrat Party politicized the DOJ and FBI, now they want to politicize local policing. They did this with their “Promise Program” that destroyed due process in Parkland, and now they want to “go big” with destruction of due process, by taking the concept nationally, using “red flag”.
There is excellent reason to believe that POLITICAL OPERATIVES will use red flag laws to harass their enemies – meaning US. We have already seen incidents of this – the SWATTING of innocent people – in states and nations that have these laws. Australia is particularly bad.
I actually have personal experience with this. I had forgotten all about it, until today.
During the 2016 Trump campaign, I was falsely accused of illegal gun carry in a felony zone by anonymous Trump opponents. This was something of a mild “swatting”, and I was very fortunate, because the police didn’t believe the complaint (which I then proved was a lie). Since then, there have been TWO entrapment attempts on me, quite possibly orchestrated by federal agents of some kind.
Political harassment using law enforcement is REAL and very dangerous.
Wolf Moon
SO – do I personally believe that “red flag” laws will be abused? ABSOLUTELY. And I predict with CERTAINTY that they will be abused against ME, if passed in my state, or nationally.
I repeat – 100% certain that they will be used against me, because of this blog.
7. Solving rifle murders before illegal alien murders is illogical.
Just look at this graph.
This shows the power of the FAKE NEWS to distort the world in favor of DEMOCRAT GOALS.
The YUGE bar on the left is murders by illegal aliens.
The thin sliver on the right is murders by rifles. ALL of them.
Red flag laws will only solve a FRACTION of the deaths by rifles, on the right.
But now let’s consider theoretical “green flag” laws, which would treat illegal aliens like gun owners. We would deport the illegal aliens, based on anonymous tips, without THEIR due process rights. They would then be vetted like gun owners, and – if “safe”, they would be let back into the United States. Even as illegals, but safe ones, we would let them back in. ALL the safe ones. Who knows – maybe MOST of them would come back in. But no matter how many, let’s presume that we only let the safe ones back in. The murderers DON’T get back in.
This theoretically solves ALL of the murders on the left.
ALL OF THEM.
So why aren’t we pursuing GREEN FLAG LAWS FIRST?
Maybe because Democrat Communists don’t WANT us to solve the bigger problem. Maybe because THEIR biggest problem is actually TRUMP VOTERS – and not murders using rifles OR murders by illegals.
6. Red flag laws deprive us of the rights we are due upon arrest.
This is subtle, but it is YUGE. I mean it – this is a BIGGIE.
This is why, if there is ever a national “red flag” law, I believe that it MUST have a “voluntary arrest option“, that GIVES ME MY FULL CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS *BEFORE* TAKING MY GUNS.
In fact, the ONLY red flag law that I believe will ultimately pass muster with SCOTUS, is one that allows the accused the option to say “You can detain ME, but you cannot take my guns. Not until I have seen a judge with my lawyer present.” At that point, the police enter the person into NORMAL processing, which brings the accused before a judge in a timely manner, and ALL NORMAL RIGHTS ARE GRANTED. This path is almost guaranteed to be fully Constitutional. And the DEMOCRATS are undoubtedly going to hate it, because it will turn the tables on these damnable laws, ending their abuse SWIFTLY in a flurry of expensive lawsuits against both accusers and the state.
Once your guns are taken, they are lost in the system. Once your guns are taken, the communists have control. Once you LET your guns be taken, you have WAIVED YOUR RIGHTS. We have to make these laws ACKNOWLEDGE that the SEIZURE OF ARMS is unconstitutional, but that the accused can ONLY FREELY WAIVE THEIR RIGHTS to let it happen.
OR NOT.
And if we DON’T waive our rights, then we must be granted ALL THE RIGHTS TO WHICH WE ARE ENTITLED. Otherwise known as DUE PROCESS.
Are you with me?
What I am doing is PLAYING ALONG WITH RED FLAG TO SHOVE THE POISON PILL OF DUE PROCESS DOWN ITS ERIC HOLDER CHINA DRAGON THROAT.
When we walk away with a traffic ticket, instead of being arrested, we are WAIVING OUR RIGHTS. When we pay our ticket by phone or on the internet, we are WAIVING OUR RIGHTS. And when we allow unconstitutional confiscation as a CONVENIENCE to all parties, we are WAIVING OUR RIGHTS. Everybody needs to recognize this.
Arrest in America is NOTHING LIKE arrest in China. Arrest gives us STANDING.
“I want an arress!” – speaking of our OWN arrest – may be the single most important way to STOP DEAD the communist goals of red flag laws.
What I am saying is that we need to view this BACKWARDS from the unconstitutional reasoning of the communists. We need to add an ARREST OPTION, so that red flag laws – if these horrifying things ever pass – are just as Constitutional as a traffic ticket. We need to view the immediate collection of arms without arrest as WAIVING ONE’S RIGHTS TO BOTH KEEPING THE ARMS AND ASSUMING THE RIGHTS OF THE ARRESTED.
And beyond this, THE RIGHT OF WAIVER IS THE GREATEST RIGHT OF ALL.
The right to CHOOSE to waive or not waive our rights is the ULTIMATE RIGHT. We cannot give this up, and yet most red flag laws STEAL THIS FROM US, by giving us NO OPTION to be peacefully arrested IN LIEU OF taking our guns.
The rights of the arrested – and particularly the FALSELY ARRESTED – are a GIANT HAMMER with which we can batter both RED FLAG and OUR ACCUSERS.
We must NEVER waive our rights to KEEP OUR GUNS, nor all the other rights which we are guaranteed by the Constitution.
EVER. Others may, but not this WOLF. “I WANT AN ARRESS!’
[NOTE: What I am really talking about is being “detained”, but same diff. Buckle up – it will feel every bit like an arrest. But if it’s a bad rap, you will be out QUICKLY and WITH YOUR GUNS.]
5. Red flag laws corrupt the role of the police.
This is very typical of communists. In the same way that Communists LOVE to change the ROLES and POWERS of the primary branches of the FEDERAL government, so too they love to change the roles and powers of STATE and LOCAL government.
In PORTLAND, they make the police STAND DOWN to “protect” the POLICE and not the PEOPLE.
In LOS ANGELES, they make the health department STAND DOWN to “protect” the “rights” of the homeless and not their health.
And in sanctuary cities around the nation, they make EVERYBODY stand down to protect non-citizen criminals, and not law-abiding citizens.
But conversely, communists may make police STAND UP in roles that are not actually theirs.
What communists are doing here, is making police act as “judge, jury, and executioner”, by confiscating arms before there is any proof to a DUE PROCESS that there is justification for doing so.
This is a corruption of the role of the police. This is JUST LIKE the way that communists under Obama corrupted the military and NASA, abusing their purposes instead of simply closing them down, which would be too obvious.
Worse still, this corruption leads to the NEXT problem with “red flag” laws.
4. Red flag drives a wedge between police and gun owners.
Red flag laws will not only drive a wedge between citizens and police – THEY ARE DESIGNED TO DO EXACTLY THAT.
Why? Because BOTH law enforcement AND gun owners support Trump. Because law enforcement AND gun owners typically RESPECT each other.
Red flag laws are designed to WEAKEN the bonds of respect between law enforcement and gun owners.
Red flag laws are designed to cause DIVISION between Trump supporters.
Sneaky, isn’t it?
3. Red flag laws drive a wedge between police and veterans.
Veterans will be particularly hard-hit by accusations of “unworthiness” due to the Democrat “false offering” of PTSD. Communists in the Democrat Party offered and promoted PTSD self-categorization to veterans PRECISELY so that they could eventually have their guns taken away. It was a long-term, patient plan, but it worked like crazy, and it is coming to fruition now.
I’m not saying PTSD isn’t real. Trust me. I know it’s real. But HOW that reality is integrated into society is what we are talking about. The PTSD category can be ABUSED.
MUCH propaganda has been deployed here. Watching it has been very educational.
The fact is, political leveraging of PTSD by gun-grabbing communists will create suspicions between veterans and police. Obama and Eric Holder could not be happier about this result.
And this leads to my next reason.
2. Red flag drives a wedge between doctors and patients.
Patients are already NOT being honest with their doctors about their medical status and gun ownership because of Obamacare and its sneaky socialist spying and judging. But you haven’t seen anything yet.
Under red flag laws, doctors will basically become “the enemy”. They, and their nurses and assistants, will be deprived of any information that could possibly result in a red flag complaint – once people realize that their information is not safe.
Trust me – HIPAA is BULLSHIT that is completely orthogonal to what Deep State needs to target patriots. Deep State can work around it in a heartbeat. How do I know this?
It’s DROP TIME.
I caught my doctor being used in a test run of a deep state scam against gun owners. I believe that my doctor was INNOCENT in the process – I believe they were deceived and USED. But I had some WARNING on what would happen, and was completely ready for the various steps of the process. It all happened like clockwork, exactly as predicted. It was a very beautiful scam, and will work against almost any patriot.
The key step is something that is outside of the “fake science” we are allowed to know, but that I know because of my unique background and some basic theoretical reasoning. It’s nothing “woo-woo” – it’s just been suppressed by Fake News. It’s horrifyingly real, but we were allowed to be “Eloi” for the “Morlocks”.
And the WORST PART is that this scam will sync right up with red flag laws, as I expect they are supposed to work, if we allow them to pass.
I’m not ready to go public with the details, but – well – let’s just leave it at that. I have hinted about it before, and the White Hats “have it all”. Maybe somebody else will drop the full bomb. That might cause a wee bit of scrambling, so I leave that choice to higher powers.
Fun times.
And now, the most insidious of all.
1. Red flag is designed to push Trump’s voters off social media.
This is perhaps the most profound realization I’ve had so far.
This goes straight to interfering in the 2020 election. And every election after that.
It’s bad enough that free speech is going to be stifled in real life by red flag laws. But social media? Our ONE WAY of working around the Fake News? Gun owners will FLEE.
“CHYYYNNA” knows this. They know this will kill Trump’s support online.
Which brings me to the last, EXTRA, and final reason red flag laws are a bad idea.
0. Red flag is a key part of China’s conquest of the Pacific.
By neutralizing America in the same way that they neutralized New Zealand and Australia – taking away the speech of its enemies – China will become the dominant force in the Pacific first, and the World later. Censorship of opposing viewpoints through gun laws was a way to take down opposition without firing a shot. China leveraged GUNS against SPEECH and it worked.
Words are our bullets. Once we fire them, they stay fired.
Wolf Moon
Note that I DO NOT take down threats or “maybe threats” made against individuals. I leave everything up as EVIDENCE. Those who make such statements are welcome to clarify – the clarifications will stay up, too.
If I believe there is a chance that a person MAY be making such threats in an attempt to get this blog closed, or has been manipulated to that end, I will ban them either temporarily or permanently, in an ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION. I may also ban identified provocateurs as well.
I believe that the PUBLIC has a right to statements made PUBLICLY. Once a threat has been made, it is in the PUBLIC’S INTEREST (and the interest of this site) that it remain PUBLIC. I believe that the social meme of HIDING such information was slowly introduced by COMMUNISTS, and our media and law enforcement MISTAKENLY went along with it. The meme has also infected social media, after being propagated through LAWYERS.
HIDING TRUTH IS ANTI-JOURNALISM.
This is an ALINSKY TACTIC to make us FEAR THE TRUTH, and in particular to FEAR FREE SPEECH.
We cannot recover free speech without practicing it and TESTING ITS LIMITS CONSTITUTIONALLY.
ONLY DOXXING POSTS (true doxxing, not “deadnaming”, which is a form of transmania censorship) will be HIDDEN, not removed, after being recorded. All other evidence will be kept public, based on TRUE JOURNALISTIC PRINCIPLES, GUARANTEED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT.
Also, we LOVE LAW ENFORCEMENT, so DO THE MATH on whether any email address and IP information will be given upon request to RESPECTED law enforcement (meaning not that MURDERING, DISCREDITED, “STAND-DOWN” HILLARY SHERIFF IN FLORIDA, or politicized SDNY losers and haters acting in bad communist faith).
Please note that what may seem like a joke to one person may seem like a threat to others.
EXAMPLE: “milkshakes“
Conversely, well-wishes that traitors receive DUE PUNISHMENTS BY LAW are tolerated if not approved. Your words stand on their own – it is not my job to clarify, mollify, frame or explain them. It is my job to give you free speech and preserve a public record thereof.
Long story short, TL:DR, don’t make threats because they will not be taken down.
This TO RESTORE OUR CONSTITUTION TUESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
Remember the 5 words that President Trump and Vice President Pence love to hear:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
AND WHAT TIME IS IT? TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
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Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
There may be some question about what speech is allowed here.
My goal is to be as expansive as possible, as far as RULES. My preference is to be no more restrictive than the First Amendment.
So far, the only LEGAL speech I’ve acted against is metaphorical “targeted violence” against famous individuals that is probably NOT a real threat, but is easily misinterpreted as one by our enemies, and thereby used to shut us down, or to paint me as a legitimate target in an abused law enforcement set-up.
I don’t actually LIKE that stance. I would prefer to fight it out on those cases, should the speech ever be questioned, when I know the person is NOT actually a threat. However, I’ve been CONNED before, and SETTING PEOPLE UP to come to the aid of BAIT VICTIMS is a specialty of the left. Just look at SPYGATE to see how this works.
When you see the wounded hostage girl in the middle of the road, you don’t help her. You dump 50,000 rounds of ammo into every conceivable ambush point. Then you inspect the bodies, remove the booby-traps from the girl, and interrogate her to see if she’s a true hostage. Probably not.
Now you understand why I dealt severely with these cases. Do it that way once, and they don’t happen again.
So what about child pornography?
Easy. It’s illegal. Not allowed. Along with any other clearly illegal speech.
NOW, that said, NOT all illegal speech will actually be removed from this site. Child pornography would be removed, obviously, because just looking at it intentionally is a crime. However, an ILLEGAL THREAT will remain posted PUBLICLY as EVIDENCE which the PUBLIC has a right to see. I would likely preserve the EVIDENCE and BAN THE ACCOUNT so that the evidence could not be deleted.
Unlike all these places that seem to think it’s OK to hide social media accounts once they become important, I will not hide evidence that the PUBLIC has a right to see. All arguments AGAINST this involve forms of PRIOR RESTRAINT, and I simply don’t buy that shit. Journalists have a RIGHT to see it. That includes citizen journalists.
Now – in the interest of investigations – into scandals like NXIVM, “pizzagate”, and the Podesta brothers, we may actually end up DISCUSSING child pornography. I don’t have a problem with that. AT ALL. If we have to label the threads NSFW, not a problem.
What about “plain old pornography”? Well, if it’s relevant to MAGA or citizen journalism in some way, like in the news, then not a problem. We may have to label a thread NSFW. That’s reasonable, IMO. We can work that out.
Personally, I think that LINKS will get us by for such cases, and I will definitely NOT censor such links. Authors, however, are free to enforce stricter or looser LEGAL standards on their own threads. We’ve already had NXIVM tattoos and barely-covered Stormy breasts on here, and there WAS that HC porn tweet on the Ted Cruz account that made big news, and I would have allowed that tweet to be posted in a comment. People had to CLICK IT to SEE IT. That’s pretty much the same as a link, IMO.
What about plain old “people want to look at porn”? I’m not sure if that violates the terms of service for WordPress, but there is that to consider. As it is, I don’t think any of our authors are likely to start a porn thread, but if it happened, I would insist that it be clearly marked and NOT have a graphic featured image. I would actually prefer it be passworded, but not sure if I have that capability on this site. I’ve never really looked into that.
We will cross that HIGHLY UNLIKELY bridge if and when we come to it. Personally, I think porn threads would be highly unpopular here, if only because most of us know it’s a form of cultural Marxism.
What about graphic violence?
Honestly, this stuff is going to appear routinely in any Daily Thread in a world with Communists and Muslims, and there is little point in labeling these threads all NSFW, but I think that people CAN consider using links instead of images.
HOWEVER, I am NOT going to restrict such speech. In some cases, I may even encourage it, as TRAINING. I would prefer to simply let people FIGHT IT OUT over content, rather than impose rules. Indeed, I have not seen you good people fight enough with each other over content. I feel like a free speech drill sergeant with a bunch of raw recruits who refuse to ENGAGE in fighting drills. Y’all are gonna need some toughening up.
To me, beheading pictures and “little-girl-run-over-by-a-jihadist” pictures are exactly what is needed to make people WAKE THE FUCK UP about the reality of the Red-Green axis and why it needs to be shut down HARD, with various Clintons and Podestas in PRISON, and suffering as many riots, rockets, and false flags as it takes. I mean, seriously. Are you folks ready for a NUKE OR TWO to shut down the cabal? I’m not seeing it. If you aren’t willing to see NUKES GO OFF – probably false flags or psychological terrorist actions by THEM – nuclear 9/11 – in our fight to protect free speech, you’re not ready for this fight. You will WIMP OUT on 1A.
The WOLF will not wimp out on 1A, 2A, or any of the rest. If we push THEM into some kind of “sum of all fears” action, TOUGH. THEY pay for THEIR crimes.
NO. PRIOR. RESTRAINT.
In addition, analysis of FAKE graphic violence is KEY to stopping the censorship movement, as PALLYWOOD and KIWIWOOD have both demonstrated.
SO – expect bloody and lurid as we topple the FAKE WORLD that has been imposed on us. If you need to look away, look away. Nobody will blame you.
This SPECIAL FREE SPEECH SUNDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
Say what you want, comment on what other people said, comment on
people’s comments. Keep it civil. Treehouse rules, but expect lots of
QAnon.
No threats or communist provocations allowed. Though, if you do them, we get to virtue signal for the racist communist treasonoids in DOJ, which is kinda fun. We assume that some of their FBI rank-n-file slaves snicker at the ridiculous nature of the whole thing, too, so there is that.
Today (Sunday, December 16) is the fifteenth day of Advent.
