Dear MAGA: 20251002 ✾ Thank God ± Theistic Evolution ∈ Thursday Open Topic


This man, making Christmas calls from the White House, believes the world is a sphere. And he has even flown around it! So has our beautiful FLOTUS, who happens to be his wife!

Truth and common sense must be valued by us, as individuals, in order to lastingly disempower the authoritarian fake news media. This includes the perniciously smarmy science media, which never answers for its errors and lies. I believe that the media has been responsible not only for leftist pathologies like scientism, medical fascism, and radical gender ideology, but also for reactionary movements like modern flat Earth, rejection of all medicine, and Biblical geological literalism.


Just as Wheatie’s Stormwatch Monday Open Thread was created as a place for people to openly express their thoughts and opinions, so, too, is this Thank God Thursday Open Thread, where honest but civil discussion of all topics is encouraged. This thread is also to be known as Theistic Evolution Thursdays, due to the author’s expected “pontification” about his scientific, religious, and political opinions. You are welcome to pontificate back! Free speech matters!

Please label all AI-generated content as being such, unless it is patently obvious (e.g., humorous AI images). It is important that we as individuals not begin to pretend that socially derived artificial intelligence is actually our own, as this form of stealthy social information averaging and feedback would be one more pretense and deception between people, in service of stupid Marxist socialism, and of those who wish to substitute their communally protected lies for actual truth.

The source of alleged truth matters, not for the truth itself, but for validation.

And yes, it’s THURSDAY…again.

And that’s it. We’re done stealing from Wheatie.

OK – maybe her rules need to be posted.

  • No food fights.
  • No running with scissors.
  • If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

Other rules may be derivable from these, and that conjecture is left for discussion.


If there is nothing beyond the “W” below, then this is a placeholder. For health reasons, I can’t always post a timely opinion before each Thursday, but I will try. Otherwise, you have this placeholder post, where YOU provide the content. Enjoy!

W


Stuff – of various kinds.


(1) I remember this movie! Something about Ellie!


(2) Moderately funny gun-guy stuff. Big-ass guns, “silencers”, flying concrete, and low-key humor!


(3) How does “Putin’s Brain” (Alexander Dugin) view what’s happening in the West? In many ways, like Bibi does, only he has a different name for the “Woke Reich”!

Alexander Dugin argues that the murder of Charlie Kirk and the Greater Israel project have fatefully split the Western political edifice, just recently held together by liberal globalism, into three opposing poles, leaving the “collective West” teetering on the brink of revolution.

https://www.arktosjournal.com/p/new-third-position


(4) In your dreams, you talked to your school board like this dude talked to his!


(5) Best case I’ve seen yet for the “trans conspiracy” theory of the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and how the plot was set up to minimize the fallout to the radical left, and direct blame away from the “trans community”.


Have a great weekend!

W

Dear MAGA: 20250918 ✾ Thank God ± Theistic Evolution ∈ Thursday Open Topic


This man, making Christmas calls from the White House, believes the world is a sphere. And he has even flown around it! So has our beautiful FLOTUS, who happens to be his wife!

Truth and common sense must be valued by us, as individuals, in order to lastingly disempower the authoritarian fake news media. This includes the perniciously smarmy science media, which never answers for its errors and lies. I believe that the media has been responsible not only for leftist pathologies like scientism, medical fascism, and radical gender ideology, but also for reactionary movements like modern flat Earth, rejection of all medicine, and Biblical geological literalism.


Just as Wheatie’s Stormwatch Monday Open Thread was created as a place for people to openly express their thoughts and opinions, so, too, is this Thank God Thursday Open Thread, where honest but civil discussion of all topics is encouraged. This thread is also to be known as Theistic Evolution Thursdays, due to the author’s expected “pontification” about his scientific, religious, and political opinions. You are welcome to pontificate back! Free speech matters!

Please label all AI-generated content as being such, unless it is patently obvious (e.g., humorous AI images). It is important that we as individuals not begin to pretend that socially derived artificial intelligence is actually our own, as this form of stealthy social information averaging and feedback would be one more pretense and deception between people, in service of stupid Marxist socialism, and of those who wish to substitute their communally protected lies for actual truth.

The source of alleged truth matters, not for the truth itself, but for validation.

And yes, it’s THURSDAY…again.

And that’s it. We’re done stealing from Wheatie.

OK – maybe her rules need to be posted.

  • No food fights.
  • No running with scissors.
  • If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

Other rules may be derivable from these, and that conjecture is left for discussion.


If there is nothing beyond the “W” below, then this is a placeholder. For health reasons, I can’t always post a timely opinion before each Thursday, but I will try. Otherwise, you have this placeholder post, where YOU provide the content. Enjoy!

W


So – what is happening on YouTube? Four samples!


(1) Check this out and let us know what you think. Yeah, it’s clickbait, with a clickbait thumbnail image.

SO – is this AI-generated anti-human propaganda – or nasty truth – or both? You can read the comments on the video, too.


(2) Chicks With Tats – How to Deal With Them


(3) Chick with XY blueprints and XX construction – in other words, transed by nature, so to speak.

I had heard of this genetic anomaly – rare but real.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_gonadal_dysgenesis

The TRANS-pusher left uses the existence of such people to justify their ideology, but the clear truth is that leftists are using medical sympathy to normalize sterilization of kids, and the medicalization of human sexuality.

I also have a theory about why “they” are pushing TRANS in Utah – and why the CIA basically set up camp there. I believe that they are trying to push the “right side” of the Overton Window on TRANS. The left is already stretched so far, as to have reached a breaking point. They need CONSERVATIVE buy-in on their “progress” agenda. The Mormons are a captive institution now, and can be used like a giant Charlie Manson or Jim Jones cult to lead the way on the CONTROLLED RIGHT. Much CIA research on converting conservatives goes on in Utah, IMO.

If this is correct, there should be other examples of this strategy, to say nothing of the “fake conservatives” on CNN.


(4) Big asteroid flyby today – with room to spare – so no need to be worried. Still, I’m glad they’re keeping an eye out for these things!


Have a great weekend!

W

Dear MAGA: 20250911 ✾ Thank God ± Theistic Evolution ∈ Thursday Open Topic | Statement on the Assassination of Charlie Kirk


This man, making Christmas calls from the White House, believes the world is a sphere. And he has even flown around it! So has our beautiful FLOTUS, who happens to be his wife!

Truth and common sense must be valued by us, as individuals, in order to lastingly disempower the authoritarian fake news media. This includes the perniciously smarmy science media, which never answers for its errors and lies. I believe that the media has been responsible not only for leftist pathologies like scientism, medical fascism, and radical gender ideology, but also for reactionary movements like modern flat Earth, rejection of all medicine, and Biblical geological literalism.


Just as Wheatie’s Stormwatch Monday Open Thread was created as a place for people to openly express their thoughts and opinions, so, too, is this Thank God Thursday Open Thread, where honest but civil discussion of all topics is encouraged. This thread is also to be known as Theistic Evolution Thursdays, due to the author’s expected “pontification” about his scientific, religious, and political opinions. You are welcome to pontificate back! Free speech matters!

Please label all AI-generated content as being such, unless it is patently obvious (e.g., humorous AI images). It is important that we as individuals not begin to pretend that socially derived artificial intelligence is actually our own, as this form of stealthy social information averaging and feedback would be one more pretense and deception between people, in service of stupid Marxist socialism, and of those who wish to substitute their communally protected lies for actual truth.

The source of alleged truth matters, not for the truth itself, but for validation.

And yes, it’s THURSDAY…again.

And that’s it. We’re done stealing from Wheatie.

OK – maybe her rules need to be posted.

  • No food fights.
  • No running with scissors.
  • If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

Other rules may be derivable from these, and that conjecture is left for discussion.


If there is nothing beyond the “W” below, then this is a placeholder. For health reasons, I can’t always post a timely opinion before each Thursday, but I will try. Otherwise, you have this placeholder post, where YOU provide the content. Enjoy!

W


Here is what I had planned for today.

(1) A music reaction video!


(2) Clash of the Young Titans in Chess!


(3) CNN TRANS Propaganda Crashing, Burning, and Utterly IN FLAMES!


I had specifically decided NOT to talk about 9/11, although I later considered posting that video Gail cited, called Codex 9/11, which is here:

However, I am now forced to address something which is deeply tied to 9/11, the assassination of our leaders, and the attempt upon the life of our President, Donald J. Trump.


Statement on the Assassination of Charlie Kirk

I now find myself in a remarkable state of – as Sundance once put it – cold anger.

Indeed, I almost feel no true “anger” in this emotional state. I feel a “detachment toward what is necessary”, you might say.

In some ways, this is the emotional average of where I was, loving and hopeful, and where I should be, which is righteously angry. I had been very hopeful for imminent reconciliation with the left. I was hopeful for easy peace. Sadly, I don’t think that is to be. I pray I’m wrong, but I don’t think so.

The left is devolving into 100% “people who willingly choose to exit badly.”

I feel a kind of resignation. It is very unlike the anger that I felt on 9/11/01 – and more like the determination I felt when I stood still on our statehouse steps, with eyes closed in prayer, and allowed screaming, violent, BLM radicals to shout obscenities in my ear, as corrupt state police supporting them did nothing but watch me for any excuse to arrest me.

Perhaps I am too much the student of history. Perhaps I have read too much about the Spanish Civil War, the latest point about which I just read today, interestingly enough. I definitely read too much about the very similar but very obscure Finnish Civil War, likewise the result of inappropriate leftist ambitions to change and rule a country against the will of the populace.

Spaniards and Finns don’t like to talk about their civil wars, and I don’t blame them. Civil wars are horrible and unnecessary. And yet, when the mobs that want them, get them, they drag people like me into the matter, and I don’t like it.

The left starts killing the people who stand in their way, and what do you know – those people do something about it, and put it down. Whoda thunk? Right? The problem is, a lot of innocent people die in the process.

If history serves, the left will make big moves at some point, so YOU need to be prepared.

The assassination of Charlie Kirk is like a test case. That’s all. They’re testing us. They’re seeing if we figure it out. They’re seeing what we do. It’s a PAWN MOVE in the chess game – before the bigger piece exchanges that MUST COME.

The left’s violent coup will be timed to surprise everybody, so don’t be surprised when it happens. Instead, be ready.

IMO, the reason we’re not seeing a lot of activity from the leftist pols is that they are very busy with secret activities. They are resigned to a violent coup of some kind, possibly with foreign assistance.

I am still holding out for peace, but we may be talking about a kind of “relative” peace, rather than an absolute one.

That’s OK.

Now – it’s time to bring this to specifics.

We have roughly three years, as a baseline, in which our right to bear arms is more or less protected, outside of the communist states. We need to maintain situational awareness at all times, against both leftist political violence, and leftist-supported “regular” violence, which they use as a deniable tactic against us.

Treat ALL violence as being directed against you by the left. It is ALL an intentional assault upon you. Treat ALL violence against anybody else as being directed against THEM by the left.

ALL violence in America is THE LEFT’S responsibility. ALL OF IT.

The left must be blamed relentlessly, to diminish their numbers. As people realize the DANGER that the left in power poses for them, their parents, and their children, people will flee the left, and we can help.

We must not let up. The left both IS violent and ENCOURAGES violence by criminals.

Leftist judges must be impeached, defeated, and driven from office. They must be shamed, mocked, ridiculed, and their evil made naked to the world.

This requires an uprising of the population. Not a violent one, but an uprising just the same.

Ask yourself – are you prepared to ride out a violent leftist coup that brings everything to a halt for WEEKS or even MONTHS?

In ALL cases of “stand up or go along” with criminal violence, we must stand up. That means being ready to SHOOT and KILL anybody who raises a knife or gun against the innocent. Hopefully the dear perpetrators live and face trial, and meet Jesus in prison, but we must save the innocent at every opportunity, and if a fatal shot is the only way, then it must be done.

Get your concealed carry license. Get some training. Learn how to shoot. Learn WHEN to shoot. Learn how to win peacefully, and hopefully you will never have to pull your gun (a badge of honor, IMO), but be prepared for that moment when you DO have to pull your gun, because leftist violence is increasing, and the left is increasingly justifying violence of all kinds.

Tony Moon is correct.

https://twitter.com/RoofKorean7/status/1965862170627072456

That’s not showing – here is an image…..

Dr. Lynn Fynn-derella is correct.

Daughter just got home from (Christian) school. She said one of her teachers was watching the video in slow motion and celebrating, jumping up and down with two leftist students. Gr👀ming much?
I have the president of the school on speed dial. I’ve just reported her actions. It’s just as important we turn these “educators” in as it is to try the perpetrator.

Meanwhile, we must destroy the contamination within our intelligence agencies which is behind these assassinations. Tulsi Gabbard has clearly (IMO) driven these sick and evil traitors to desperation. Some sort of IC op – either pro/patsy, or MK shooter, or both, will have been involved here.

I like this theory.


RedLegLeader68

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Reply to  K1tt7-fzn
September 10, 2025 19:33
#1510210

My take:

#1 – shooter was a hired, drop dead professional, which means he had an escape hatch that no one else knew about + he would hold a lot of black mail info on his paymasters. He’s gone and won’t be found.

#2 – shooter was a highly trained (maybe MKUltra) type that was committed to the “cause” and carried out the deed. He’s now dead. No loose ends.

#3 = If #2’s correct, then some patsy will be trotted out to take the fall. Soon, he will be dead.

RIP Dear Charlie!!


Yup. What they did was nasty. Worse yet, it was SATANIC.

And just in case they try to delete it…..

Jezebel Scrambles to Add Editor’s Note to Article Boasting About Paying Witches to Curse Charlie Kirk Two Days Before His Assassination Jezebel added an editor’s note to an article where they bragged about paying Etsy witches to place curses on conservative activist Charlie Kirk, just two days before he was assassinated at a Turning Point USA event. The original piece, published on Monday, detailed how the outlet hired online spellcasters to hex Kirk over his criticisms of modern feminism and women’s independence. The article, bylined initially to writer Claire Guinan but later changed to simply “Jezebel,” was titled “We Paid Some Etsy Witches to Curse Charlie Kirk.” In it, the author lambasted Kirk as a “far-right misogynist with a bad haircut” who promotes “regressive rhetoric” and idealizes the 1950s for women. The editor’s note reads: Editor’s Note: This story was published on September 8. Jezebel condemns the shooting of Charlie Kirk in the strongest possible terms. We do not endorse, encourage, or excuse political violence of any kind. While Jezebel’s note attempts to distance the outlet from violence, critics argue it’s too little, too late, especially given the gleeful tone of the original piece. https://jezebel.com/we-paid-some-etsy-witches-to-curse-charlie-kirk


2,061 Views


And it has been archived.


As Aubergine has said about the Epstein stuff, at the root, this is spiritual. There is coordination on the psychotic, satanic, evil left. Whether the gals at Jezebel actually knew anything was coming or not, doesn’t really matter. Somebody knew it was coming. This has all the hallmarks of an “event” – and these “events” are always complex evil meant to demonstrate evil power.

But we have God on our side, and we have Jesus leading the way. Never stop being approved workmen and workwomen of GOOD.

We’re not getting out of this easy. But we ARE getting out of it with GOD on our side.

Plan. Prepare. Pray.

W

Dear KMAG: 20240101 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic NEW YEAR SPECIAL 2024


HAPPY NEW YEAR!

This is our SIXTH New Year, as we are now over FIVE years old.

AND HERE WE GO!


Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

Because it’s CHRISTMAS The New Year!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Word of the New Year:

courage

noun

  1. The state or quality of mind or spirit that enables one to face danger, fear, or vicissitudes with self-possession, confidence, and resolution; bravery.
  2. Heart; mind; thought; feeling; inclination; desire.
  3. State or frame of mind; disposition; condition.

Shown in a picture

Why COURAGE is the word of the New Year

Pat Frederick and Aubergine had an inspired conversation, and I think they’re both right.

PEACE – STRENGTH – CLARITY – COURAGE

Peace

Strength

Clarity

Courage

and always remember

and even more importantly

THESE qualities are what we need to get past THEIR NEXT JANUARY SIXTH PLOT!!!


MUSIC!

We offer multi-song selections from multiple genres. Take your pick!


Here’s something that wasn’t on your bingo card for the New Year – Indian Christian music!


A little too Eastern? Try Western! Medieval Western! Note the interesting similarities – and differences.


OK – let’s celebrate LAST YEAR – with an BIG WOLF epic / heroic orchestral music mix from 2023!!!


Feeling uninspired? Try some INSPIRATIONAL electronic music that’s used to addict people to VIDEO GAMES.


And if you still feel like partying, and want some energy, here is an interesting genre called “nightcore” – which is basically sped-up music, like we loved when we were kids, playing 33 1/3 rpm vinyl at 45 rpm.

https://youtu.be/s5nLNf_5jrs

And how can we celebrate a turn of the Gregorian calendar, without a selection of real, live, Gregorian chants, by Spanish monks?

Sorry, but we can only provide a link to this one.

https://youtu.be/Cm2tX7iSEzU


If you can’t do links, here is an alternative – an hour of “Gregorian pop” with a female vocalist!

https://youtu.be/Y6nf7nz58zA

OK – if you’re still looking for something, try an oddball collection of classic country. This is a strange mix, but it’s got its moments, like riding in somebody else’s pickup truck with an 8-track player and an eclectic selection of tapes strewn everywhere.

https://youtu.be/7sXhvCn5Olo

Still feeling the Christmas spirit, but DONE with trees, ornaments, and all that “not about Christ” stuff? How about hours and hours of hymns on piano and cello, with soothing videos of nature in the background?

Sorry boys – the AI-generated “big fiddle” gal only appears on the cover!


OK – time to finish with SIREENS. Real ones. In a STAIRWELL!

We repeat our greetings from Christmas!

A Happy New Year to ALL of you – posters, lurkers, appreciated authors, former posters, beloved guests, wandering journalists, opposition researchers, Deep State(TM) spies, foreign and domestic intelligence, and future historical AIs.

We appreciate your presence here, in the New Year! Please feel free to carry our messages of TRUTH and GOD’S GLORY to the infinite corners of the universe!


THE NEW YEAR STUFF

How about our very first New Years on The Q Tree, in 2019?

That was FIVE YEARS AGO!

Our original header and tagline:


Dear MAGA: Open Topic 20190101

This special NEW YEAR’S DAY 2019 (TUESDAY) open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world. Say what you want, comment on what other people said, comment on people’s comments.  Keep it civil.  Treehouse rules, but expect lots …


Take a close look at this site’s original tagline! Let’s have a little bit of fun with that stuff!

OK – back to THE FIGHT.

And the other side fights DIRTY.

The fight for TRUTH is spreading to the sane classic liberal left.

Check out how she’s fighting – and how the dark side is trying to fight back.

And now for some completely unacceptable behavior by a cousin of mine.

Scientists crack case of decapitated seal pups that have been found on California beaches since 2016 – and they say the culprit is ‘surprising’

UGH. Guys. You’re ruining the brand!

Now – if defenseless seal pups had guns, instead of waiting for wildlife biologists and cameramen to arrive on time…..

Notice what happens if people fail to properly misspell the meme text……

Just sayin’!

Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

Happy New Year, Amigos!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W


Dear KMAG: 20231211 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic

Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Word of The Week:

frameshift

also known as

ribosomal frameshift

noun or verb

Ribosomal frameshifting, also known as translational frameshifting or translational recoding, is a biological phenomenon that occurs during translation that results in the production of multiple, unique proteins from a single mRNA.[1] The process can be programmed by the nucleotide sequence of the mRNA and is sometimes affected by the secondary, 3-dimensional mRNA structure.[2] It has been described mainly in viruses (especially retroviruses), retrotransposons and bacterial insertion elements, and also in some cellular genes.[3]

LINK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ribosomal_frameshift

Wolf’s easy description

Imagine that you had a simple language where almost any possible combination of the letters actually meant something, and there’s almost no punctuation, so it’s really hard to see where sentences start and stop. But thankfully, all the words are the same length. You just read all the words as that length, and everything makes sense.

What frameshifting means, is you accidentally skip ahead or behind, and you’re off-track. Therefore, if you accidentally skip a letter or two, you can still keep reading words, and you’re reading a completely different story.

So you say “AHA – yes, there will be words, but it won’t make sense in combination. It will create right words that are nonsense in combination, like the text of really bad spam, so you’ll know that it’s not right.”

Exactly.

That’s what the body starts doing. Creating nonsense proteins. And just like spam, these spam proteins get sent around in your body anyway, firing up the immune system. Possibly firing up immunity against your own body, should important things in it look anything like the spam.

Used in a sentence

“If the frameshifting occurs anywhere near the end of the sequence (3’UTR) you will skip over the stop codons and read into human peptides. Spike-Human peptides present an autoimmunity risk.”


Music

Gotta have DRINKABY back in the mix!

OK – time for some LIVE Wheatie music.

Finishing this with a biggie – a fresh, recent performance by Patty Loveless, as she was inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame.


And now THE STUFF!

And yes…..

The People Have Spoken!

Looks like it happened, too!

https://twitter.com/AstroJordy/status/1733905705130697031

Where do I start? Maybe here.

Want to understand that whole “frame-shifting paper” thing? Here’s a simpler explanation first.

Want more? Here you go!

“The shift is about to hit the fan.”

LINK: https://anandamide.substack.com/p/frameshiting-slippery-sequence

Have you noticed the pattern?

  • It’s not happening
  • It’s not happening much
  • It’s not that bad
  • It’s good for you

And in this fashion, we’ve learned of another AI tool by which one can make memes and featured images.

Here’s a biggie. Rich parent are storing eggs of transing daughters before they go on puberty blockers.

Well worth a listen, from 41 minutes on. Wealthy parents of young women who attempt to disown their sexed reality, are paying for their eggs to be harvested and preserved. The gender industry is not about self expression, but about moving reproduction to the tech sector, toward a trans/post human paradigm. The celebration of dissociation from sexed reality has meaning. It is not just a derranged phenomenon.

@11thBlog

@SurrogConcern

Jump to 41 minutes in, as some poofters on “TERF Island” (LOL) discuss with a populist journo from Iceland.

Yeah, right. Because “good people” can’t simply be for parents’ rights. Gotta support the crazy, while working around it.

Well, we’re here to TALK BACK TO THE CRAZY.


Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W


Dear KMAG: 20231120 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic

Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Word of The Week:

sissy porn

noun

  • a kind of pornography allegedly capable of creating MTF (male to female) trannies from beta males
  • allegedly why the Wachowski brothers behind the Matrix trilogy became tranny sisters

The Full Story

Please skip parts of this section, or the entirety, if you don’t have the stomach for graphic descriptions of sex and pornography, or even allusions to the same. I will attempt to warn people about the most important part to skip.

Background: I have never seen a good explanation of why the Wachowski brothers, who created the Matrix trilogy, became tranny sisters – first one and then the other. Sure – we can say “demonic possession” – but how did that happen in practice?

PORNOGRAPHY – to me, that seems like a very probable answer.

IMO pornography is a gateway of demonic possession. Ted Bundy, before he died, admitted that violent pornography was how he got warped into ultimately becoming a serial killer.

Here is the tweet that started me toward discovering another dangerous type of pornography.

Just as an aside, this Dr. Jebra Faushay is a parody account that never gets banned for showing wacky LGBTQ+ stuff, because the author plays it very “straight”, no pun intended.

As I was looking through the replies to that tweet, this reply – and a reply to that one – jumped out at me.

OK – this is where you need to be careful.

Tweeders LaTerf KPSS” responds to this with a very graphic description, contained in an image.

If you DON’T CLICK on the hidden image in the tweet, then below the tweet, I will present you with a PG-rated version of what it says.

https://twitter.com/tweeders55/status/1725295359205765381

PG-Rated Version:

sissy hypno

Sissy hypno is a sub-genre of porn where images of attractive women are utilized to turn on the target audience (mainly beta submissive males) and then quickly after this a frame or two is shown of an erect, ejaculating penis with words on screen encouraging female sexual acts. These phrases serve to temporarily alter the viewer’s sexual tastes and to make them think that they are actually female in a male body. This practice is known as rewiring. However, it is fully reversible once the viewer ceases self-gratification and watching this form of pornography.

Sissy hypno is very powerful in that for some, it can actually alter their perception of women. Therefore, instead of becoming sexually aroused by the sight of attractive women having sex, and wanting to have sex with them, the subject will identify with the women and feel they are them.


You can dig deeper into this, although I advise against it. There is a lot of “intersection” between the BDSM world, where some men desire to be “feminized” by dominatrix women, and the FTM trans women thing.

If you read more in the above X thread, you will find more information about where the Wachowskis have admitted the pornographic roots of their transition.

In any case, it’s now clear to me why the left is fighting to get sexually explicit “grooming books” into school libraries. PORN helps to create TRANS. It can do it for adults – it can do it for kids.

This is one more danger of pornography, that young men need to be warned about. Even CHILDREN need to be warned about the “porn in schools” which is being used to undermine them.

Sometimes one just wishes that we could TURN BACK THE CLOCK.


Music

OK – we’re hopping into the WAYBACK MACHINE for today’s music!

First – we go back in time to a combination of the 70s and the 60s.

Now – time to get more OBSCURE, going back in time from Animal House, and forward in time from Otis Day and The Knights – to the psychedelic era.

Joe Walsh and The James Gang

(Yeah, that one cannot be embedded.)

Next – follow Joe Walsh forward in time to NOW.

(Apologies to Steve – this song always reminds me of the Californication of Colorado and the rest of the West.)

Next, we go BACK to another “mixed up time” – the Taylor Swift “1989 World Tour” – in 2015.

But now it’s time to venture into Time itself…..

This time, with movie scenes….

And then beyond time!


And now THE STUFF!

And yes…..

Let’s start with the basics.

Timing is everything!

Try these fascinating images.

An Artist Recreated What Famous Historical Figures Would Look Like Today

One of the best summaries of Spike Protein World EVER.

His conclusion – remove the damn vaccines. Well, the governments of the world may not be listening, but the people of the world ARE listening.

Yeah, this next item sure sounds like more WEF anti-carbon anti-porn, but still…..

Back on DNA in the jabs….

Otherwise known as “clown world stage 4″….

Yes, science has quite a few problems lately….

https://twitter.com/JoelHarms73/status/1725928869956661620

Oh, wait! Not another hate crime hoax! Not more Pallywood!

Last month, Muslim group CAIR and various influencers made a story go viral about a Muslim man in Ohio who said he was seriously injured by a car driven by a person who screamed “Kill all Palestinians” and “Long live Israel.” Northridge Police investigated & determined it was a hate crime hoax. They say they found surveillance footage showing he actually was injured in a fight with his brother. Hesham Ayyad (the alleged hoaxer) & Khalil Ayyad have been charged with domestic violence and assault. Hesham is additionally charged with falsification, making false alarms & obstructing official business. Muslim Americans have long been involved in numerous high-profile hate crime allegations that turned out to be hoaxes, especially since Trump was elected. #HateHoax https://twitter.com/CAIRNational/status/1716568332223045874

Hooray! I got retweeted by Jennifer Bilek!

Big numbers! WOOHOO!!!


Until victory, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W


Aw, heck, let’s have some more music!

And we’ll give Travis the final word!

Dear KMAG: 20231023 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic

Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Word of The Week:

gwnofaoadfjsadf

noun

  • random typing on the keyboard by Wolf
  • Mole Day in some imaginary language

Used in a sentence

Wolf thinks that gwnofaoadfjsadf looks a bit like Welsh, even though it’s just jibberish.


A Bit of Music

This is a great but weird one.

The story is that Gretchen Wilson was a session artist for rock and country back before she got famous in country. Discussed here.

Apparently she’s always been quite a fan of Heart.

Let’s have some of the original!

OK – we have to finish with some science bluegrass for Mole Day. This is surprisingly good.

And now, back to business!


Election 2023 – The Final Stretch

Ohio Issue 1 is definitive. This is the ultimate groomer amendment, backed by the commies, begging to be added to the state’s constitution.

I will be doing what I can, which is never enough, to help defeat this monstrosity.

The choice is stark.

If this passes, parents will lose control of their kids FROM BIRTH – if the babies even make it that far.

I won’t be here on The Q Tree most of the time, during this home stretch, but I invite ALL OF YOU to bring the ammunition here. Bring the news about EVIL Issue One! Help me alert the nation to what they are doing in Ohio, which is worse than what they did in Michigan. Help the people of Ohio stop the insanity of “reproductive freedom” of CHILDREN FROM BIRTH.

After today, I will copy this post as a placeholder until the election is over. I will comment occasionally, but I will have to fight every day to STOP ISSUE ONE.

Until then, have faith!

And trust the big plan, too!

Defend American Motherhood!

And as always….

ENJOY THE SHOW

W


Dear KAG: 20230929 Open Thread

Continuing our prayers for Deplorable Patriot, and continuing to relieve Gail.

Sorry this post can’t be longer and more timely – but it beats a placeholder!

Anybody else need a drink? It’s that day of the week!

-Wolf


Obligatory Drink – Add Buffalo

Beware of the Harry Buffalo – it has a KICK!

I get a bit queasy just thinking about this drink. Some kind of bad memory somewhere.

Think I’ll take an ice cold beer, myself! Preferably LOW ESTROGEN.


Lynx

I’m putting three suspicious lynxes on any lynx to Dem websites these days!

In news we highly suspected….

Cholesterol Does Not Cause Heart Disease

You’ll need more BACON for this one!

‘2030 Is When the Merge Happens,’ OpenAI President Tells Netanyahu of Coming Man-Machine Merger

But then there is the good news!

‘Built for Pressure’: Rumble Still Won’t Cave to Woke Censorship Mob

We love it! But beware of lying depoppers!

Should You Get the Newest COVID-19 Vaccine?

The horror – they’re still trying to inject all the kids. Note how they don’t care about superior natural immunity. These people are Pfizerbot monsters. Per the Cleveland Clinic:


If you or your children belong in any of the following categories, you should get at least one dose of the updated 2023 vaccine as soon as possible:

  • Anyone older than 6 months who’s never had a COVID-19 vaccine.
  • Children 6 months to 4 years of age who’ve begun or completed their COVID-19 vaccine schedule.
  • Everyone 5 and older who didn’t receive a COVID-19 vaccine in the past two months but was previously vaccinated for COVID-19.
  • People who are immunocompromised.

People of the Lie – keep your distance!


Tweets / Xs / Whatevs

Four asses of the Apocalypse?

How about a CommuNazi love-in? Glad it’s “up north” and not “down here”!

Does ANY rational person “trust the science” at this point?

NEW: ‘Scientist’ Neil deGrasse has meltdown while trying to explain why men should be able to compete in women’s sports. The ‘scientists’ really don’t seem to follow the science these days. Before melting down, deGrasse tried coming up with a scientific explanation for why men should be able to compete in women’s sports. “So I’m wondering whether the future of those sports is, you don’t contest gender with gender. You contest hormone ratios.” The meltdown came when the show hosts asked deGrasse about women being denied opportunities because the playing field is not even. “So fix the playing field, da**it! Don’t, don’t say it’s an unfair playing field. So all of a sudden the big issue is trans women taking the slot of a woman in an unfair playing field, fix the playing field.” “You know something, the day you fix that playing field, this conversation will look completely ridiculous. That’s what I’m trying to tell you.” The only thing that looks ridiculous is you, Neil.

Scummer and Turtle-Head. What a combination. The Senate is fake, I tell ya! It’s all kabuki.

Interesting trailer, although it looks like another Hollywood “writer meets reality” / “layers of reality” script. Might be good for some popcorn consumption. Or maybe not.

Alternate title: Suspicious Cat’s Suspicious Vacation


Memes & Stuff

Kevin the Foot-Dragger. Somebody get him out of my messages and email! Please!

“Mommy, why does that woman have a beard?” Not exactly the same answer as when I was a kid.

Watch this and then ask yourself – is there something in the games that is “training” people? Found at “Not The Bee” HERE.

Back to reality from gaming. See? A pre-existing solution is always available if you just think out-of-the-plane!


Repeating our usual suspects…..

Still not regretting not taking the shot.

And then there’s the BIG CLUB…..

Per the Boss:

Boss correcting now to “Oligarchs including but not limited to George Soros“.


And now for the obligatory message from our sponsors:

Here at the Q tree we believe in the concept of CIVIL open free speech and the discussion that fleshes out ideas. When commenting and participating in the OPEN discussion on this thread all comments MUST NOT CONTAIN personal threats, baiting, name calling, or other anti-social words fomenting hate, violence or destruction. Our host Wolfm00n has strict rules about that.

Fellow tree dweller, the late Wheatie, gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone

Please, stock up on blanks for celebratory gunfire, be ready to swing from the chandeliers…and no messing with the nuclear weapons.

Please remember to remain locked and loaded and ready for trouble should the insurrectionists try to invade your space.

Those who have things to say that do not fit the generally accepted limits of “civil” discussion, Wolf has provided a venue known as the UTree. You’re welcome to visit over there and say hi to anyone hanging out over there. The “Rescue Thread” is also over there. In the event a rendezvous of the tree is needed, please check it out, as well as the newest rescue venue.

Auntie DePat’s requests:

If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.

The scroll wheel on your mouse can be your friend. As mature adults, please use it here in the same manner you would in avoiding online porn.

Thank you so much for any and all attention to such details. It is GREATLY appreciated by more than one party here.

One other vital note:

Please, review these rules that our host Wolfm00n outlined toward the beginning of the growth of the tree itself. It won’t take long.

YEAH! READ THE RULES! Or just watch this video!

Speaking of house rules…..

__________________________________________________

Proverbs 1

The Beginning of Knowledge
(see also Proverbs 9:1–12)

1These are the proverbs of Solomon son of David,

king of Israel,

2for gaining wisdom and discipline,

for comprehending words of insight,

3and for receiving instruction in wise living

and in righteousness, justice, and equity.

4To impart prudence to the simplea

and knowledge and discretion to the young,

5let the wise listen and gain instruction,

and the discerning acquire wise counsel

6by understanding the proverbs and parables,

the sayings and riddles of the wise.

7The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge,

but foolsb despise wisdom and discipline.

The Enticement of Sin

8Listen, my son, to your father’s instruction,

and do not forsake the teaching of your mother.

9For they are a garland of grace on your head

and a pendant around your neck.

10My son, if sinners entice you,

do not yield to them.

11If they say, “Come along, let us lie in wait for blood,

let us ambush the innocent without cause,

12let us swallow them alive like Sheol,

and whole like those descending into the Pit.

13We will find all manner of precious goods;

we will fill our houses with plunder.

14Throw in your lot with us;

let us all share one purse”—

15my son, do not walk the road with them

or set foot upon their path.

16For their feet run to evil,

and they are swift to shed blood.

17How futile it is to spread the net

where any bird can see it!

18But they lie in wait for their own blood;

they ambush their own lives.

19Such is the fate of all who are greedy,

whose unjust gain takes the lives of its possessors.

Wisdom Calls Aloud

20Wisdom calls out in the street,

she lifts her voice in the square;

21in the main concoursec she cries aloud,

at the city gates she makes her speech:

22“How long, O simple ones, will you love your simple ways?

How long will scoffers delight in their scorn

and fools hate knowledge?

23If you had repented at my rebuke,

then surely I would have poured out my spirit on you;

I would have made my words known to you.

24Because you refused my call,

and no one took my outstretched hand,

25because you neglected all my counsel,

and wanted none of my correction,

26in turn I will mock your calamity;

I will sneer when terror strikes you,

27when your dread comes like a storm,

and your destruction like a whirlwind,

when distress and anguish overwhelm you.

28Then they will call on me, but I will not answer;

they will earnestly seek me, but will not find me.

29For they hated knowledge

and chose not to fear the LORD.

30They accepted none of my counsel;

they despised all my reproof.

31So they will eat the fruit of their own way,

and be filled with their own devices.

32For the waywardness of the simple will slay them,

and the complacency of fools will destroy them.

33But whoever listens to me will dwell in safety,

secure from the fear of evil.”


As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome.

Please include: President Donald Trump, the Q team, our soldiers in the field, special forces, tactical units, first responders and those working behind the scenes…and any and all people with family members in the hospital, COVID or not.

And…members of the QTree who no longer participate for one reason or another.

It is quite clear, as per Wolf’s message from July, that we are under spiritual attack. Building up a robust arsenal of prayer and discipline is a must in fighting the enemy and his minions.

In that spirit, the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel from Tuesday’s threads, and the Breastplate of St. Patrick, not to mention the Litany of Humility are favorites recommended by exorcists in spiritual warfare.

SATIRE SECTION

Not to be confused with current reality. They’re close, we admit.

OK – that wins the internet!

But you still need your Vitamin JP!

W (for DP)

Dear KAG: 20230928 Open Thread

Praying for our wonderful Deplorable Patriot, and giving Gail a break, too.

Think of this as “DePat Light” – not quite the real thing, but definitely not woke!

Originally scheduled for Wednesday (see featured image), when Gail was doing her Part 2, this was moved to Thursday.

-Wolf


Obligatory Wolves, Add Buffalo

Wolves x Bison = Wolf Moon Happiness!


Lynx

Transgender Agenda EXPOSED In New Documentary “Dysphoria”

Skip to the video trailer here:

‘Dangerous Policies’: Teacher Who Refuses to Lie to Parents About Kids’ Gender Identities Wins Major Victory

Skip to the video here:

Earlier video here:


Tweets / Xs / Whatevs

https://twitter.com/Donkey_King__/status/1706662244409639153

Memes & Stuff

This one never gets old or wrong.

WARNING!!! GROOMER ALERT!!!

Speaking of Catturd getting swatted…..


Ah, the “usual suspects” must appear!

And, of course, the obligatory George Carlin:

Per the Boss:

Boss correcting now to “Oligarchs including but not limited to George Soros“.


And now for the obligatory message from our sponsors:

Here at the Q tree we believe in the concept of CIVIL open free speech and the discussion that fleshes out ideas. When commenting and participating in the OPEN discussion on this thread all comments MUST NOT CONTAIN personal threats, baiting, name calling, or other anti-social words fomenting hate, violence or destruction. Our host Wolfm00n has strict rules about that.

Fellow tree dweller, the late Wheatie, gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone

Please, stock up on blanks for celebratory gunfire, be ready to swing from the chandeliers…and no messing with the nuclear weapons.

Please remember to remain locked and loaded and ready for trouble should the insurrectionists try to invade your space.

Those who have things to say that do not fit the generally accepted limits of “civil” discussion, Wolf has provided a venue known as the UTree. You’re welcome to visit over there and say hi to anyone hanging out over there. The “Rescue Thread” is also over there. In the event a rendezvous of the tree is needed, please check it out, as well as the newest rescue venue.

Auntie DePat’s requests:

If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.

The scroll wheel on your mouse can be your friend. As mature adults, please use it here in the same manner you would in avoiding online porn.

Thank you so much for any and all attention to such details. It is GREATLY appreciated by more than one party here.

One other vital note:

Please, review these rules that our host Wolfm00n outlined toward the beginning of the growth of the tree itself. It won’t take long.

YEAH! READ THE RULES! Or just watch this video!

__________________________________________________

OK, we need some church after that Saturday night.

But I repeat myself!

OK, after that church, I need some church!

Anybody got a good baptism story? Here’s the best one ever. In my occasionally humble opinion.

Matthew 3:13-17

The Baptism of Jesus
(Mark 1:9–11Luke 3:21–22John 1:29–34)

13At that time Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to be baptized by John. 14But John tried to prevent Him, saying, “I need to be baptized by You, and do You come to me?”

15“Let it be so now,” Jesus replied. “It is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness in this way.” Then John permitted Him.

16As soon as Jesus was baptized, He went up out of the water. Suddenly the heavens were opened,d and He sawe the Spirit of God descending like a dove and resting on Him. 17And a voice from heaven said, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased!”

This one’s good enough to run again, too!

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome.

Please include: President Donald Trump, the Q team, our soldiers in the field, special forces, tactical units, first responders and those working behind the scenes…and any and all people with family members in the hospital, COVID or not.

And…members of the QTree who no longer participate for one reason or another.

It is quite clear, as per Wolf’s message from July, that we are under spiritual attack. Building up a robust arsenal of prayer and discipline is a must in fighting the enemy and his minions.

In that spirit, the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel from Tuesday’s threads, and the Breastplate of St. Patrick, not to mention the Litany of Humility are favorites recommended by exorcists in spiritual warfare.

SATIRE SECTION

Newly Released Andromeda Images Claim Entire Galaxy as Chinese Territory


W (for DP)

Dear KMAG: 20230911 Joe Biden Didn’t Win ❀ Open Topic

Joe Biden didn’t win. This is our Real President:

AND our beautiful REALFLOTUS.


This Stormwatch Monday Open Thread remains open – VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA/KAG/KMAG world (with KMAG being a bit of both).

And yes, it’s Monday…again.

But we WILL get through it!

We will always remember Wheatie,

Pray for Trump,

Yet have fun,

and HOLD ON when things get crazy!


We will follow the RULES of civility that Wheatie left for us:

Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And while we engage in vigorous free speech, we will remember Wheatie’s advice on civility, non-violence, and site unity:

“We’re on the same side here so let’s not engage in friendly fire.”

“Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.”

If this site gets shut down, please remember various ways to get back in touch with the rest of the gang:

Our beloved country is under Occupation by hostile forces.

Daily outrage and epic phuckery abound.

We can give in to despair…or we can be defiant and fight back in any way that we can.

Joe Biden didn’t win.

And we will keep saying Joe Biden didn’t win until we get His Fraudulency out of our White House.


Word of The Week:

trinitite

noun

Trinitite, also known as atomsite or Alamogordo glass, is the glassy residue left on the desert floor after the plutonium-based Trinity nuclear bomb test on July 16, 1945, near Alamogordo, New Mexico. The glass is primarily composed of arkosic sand composed of quartz grains and feldspar that was melted by the atomic blast.

You’ll see why I chose trinitite later in this post.


OK – here is the epic orchestral Wheatie music I was looking for….

Maybe some “Celtic mystique” music?

How about “Viking folk music”? No guarantees of authenticity here.

But let’s finish with some orchestral-backed vocals…..

OK – that was inspiring!


Carl was back on Sunday! Praise God!!!

I know it has been a while since I said “Trust The Plan”, but every once in a while I realize that it’s there.

Some very interesting posts (and replies) on X. Let me give you a guided tour.

This is an oldie but goodie on an old QAnon account that does indeed put time frames in perspective.

I found the reply here terribly interesting. It’s worth looking at Brian’s full tweet.

This is also going to be big – Lara Logan’s new production on January Sixth.

Now – check this out – a long train of tweets to some fascinating references.

First – UGH – the photo on the right.

Watch the liar who swoops in from Alinskyworld…. and the response….

I tried to find the source of the photo on Tineye, but could only find an older tweet, which also had the picture in a “trans” argument.

That post notes the prior self-cutting by the young woman, visible in the photo. A pro-trans poster excuses the cutting as a result of gender dysphoria thereby requiring the surgery, while I might see the surgery as the ultimate form of “cutting”.

As an aside, I think the mom may be relieved of some guilt here. She was likely ready to believe anything that the doctors and trans activists told her. Thus, it is to some extent likely to be a kind of “Stockholm syndrome X Munchausen by proxy syndrome”.

The original poster responds with an excellent old article questioning trans surgeries.

That led to an argument that the Guardian reference was too old, and ANOTHER more recent reference, which is what you REALLY need to see.

LINK: https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2019/11/58371/

ARCHIVE: https://archive.ph/mjoSS

New Data Show “Gender-Affirming” Surgery Doesn’t Really Improve Mental Health. So Why Are the Study’s Authors Saying It Does?

This is an absolutely fascinating example of “agenda science” and intentional misrepresentation of data. Check out the summary of the article:

Data from a new study show that the beneficial effect of surgery for transgender people is so small that a clinic may have to perform as many as 49 gender-affirming surgeries before they could expect to prevent one additional person from seeking subsequent mental health treatment. Yet that’s not what the authors say. That the authors corrupted otherwise-excellent data and analyses with a skewed interpretation signals an abandonment of scientific rigor and reason in favor of complicity with activist groups seeking to normalize infertility-inducing and permanently disfiguring surgeries.

This is EXACTLY what is wrong with science all over the place now. COVID science is just like this. Mask science, too. This dishonesty of interpretation is everywhere. AGENDA SCIENCE.

Here is the full text of the article, saved from censorship.


new study appearing last month in the American Journal of Psychiatry concluded that “gender-affirming” surgery is associated with reduced demand for subsequent mental health treatment in a sample of persons diagnosed with “gender incongruence.” Predictably, such news received wide media interest and coverage. And yet even a cursory reading of the study itself tells a far less optimistic story than the media narratives—as well as the authors’ own inexplicable confidence—have offered. Indeed, the analyses would seem to suggest the benefit of a hormonal or surgical course does not outweigh the demonstrable physical and financial costs of such treatments. Future studies might suggest otherwise, but not this one.

The study’s shortcomings have nothing to do with the data, nor the methods employed by its authors (and public health researchers) Richard Bränström and John Pachankis. The data come from the Swedish Total Population Register, a massive, longitudinal survey effort that collected information from over 9.7 million Swedes, or about 95 percent of the country. No complaints there. The analyses are high-quality: the authors tracked respondents over time and assessed their use of mental health treatment (for a mood or anxiety disorder) in 2015, as well as other related measures (such as hospitalization after a suicide attempt), as a function of time since gender-affirming hormone and surgical treatment. Its measurement precision is excellent, and would satisfy most methodological purists. So far, all good news. But then come the scholarly interpretations of the study’s results, which are remarkably out of step with the far more modest conclusions they merit.

The study found no mental health benefits for hormonal interventions in this population. There is no effect of time since initiating hormone treatment on the likelihood of subsequently receiving mental health treatment.

First, a word about the hormones: the study found no mental health benefits for hormonal interventions in this population. There is no effect of time since initiating hormone treatment on the likelihood of subsequently receiving mental health treatment. Given the surge in interest, demand, and supply of hormonal therapies to self-identified transgender persons today, you would think that it is a solution that pays obvious benefits in reduced subsequent need—over time—for treatment of mood or anxiety disorder, or hospitalization after a suicide attempt. Yet there was no statistically significant effect. In fact, the confidence intervals actually reveal a nearly significant aggravating effect of hormonal treatment on subsequent mental health needs.

It is the surgical effect, however, that has grabbed all the attention. Bränström and Pachankis detected a statistically significant effect of time since last “gender-affirming” surgery on reduced mental health treatment. The adjusted (for controls) odds ratio for this was 0.92, meaning that, among respondents diagnosed with “gender incongruence” who then received gender-affirming surgical treatment, the odds of being treated for a mood or anxiety disorder (in 2015) were reduced by about 8 percent for each year since the last surgery. In other words, it would appear that the surgery—or more typically, the series of surgeries—benefited their mental health.

But the authors discuss a “linear decrease” in seeking subsequent mental health care that is simply not visible in the study’s graphs, where post-surgical mental health treatment hovers stably around 35 percent among those in their first nine years after surgery, and then drops to only 21 percent of those patients who are in their tenth (or higher) year since their last surgery. However, only 19 total respondents reported their last surgery as having been completed 10 or more years ago. By contrast, 574 (out of 1,018 total) reported their last surgery as having been conducted less than two years ago. (Surgical treatment is clearly surging.) This means that the apparently helpful overall effect of surgery is driven by this comparatively steep drop in mood/anxiety treatment among only 19 patients. By the math, that would seem to indicate that four out of these 19 Swedes (i.e., 21 percent) sought help in 2015 for mood/anxiety problems.

While the study reports the adjusted odds ratio of the overall effect of time since surgery (0.92), which I cannot replicate without having data access, you don’t need the data to calculate an unadjusted odds ratio from the information presented there. This can tell us the baseline effect of time since surgery on receiving mood and anxiety treatment, only without the controls (like age, income, etc.). Doing this reveals the fragility of the study’s key finding: if a mere three additional cases among these 19 had sought mental health treatment in 2015, there would appear to be no discernible overall effect of surgery on subsequent mental health. The study’s trumpeted conclusion may hinge on as few as three people in a data collection effort reaching 9.7 million Swedes, 2,679 of whom were diagnosed with gender incongruence and just over 1,000 of whom had gender-affirming surgery.

The study’s trumpeted conclusion may hinge on as few as three people in a data collection effort reaching 9.7 million Swedes, 2,679 of whom were diagnosed with gender incongruence and just over 1,000 of whom had gender-affirming surgery.

An increase of just three treated individuals (from 4 to 7 of 19) brings the overall effect to zero. On the other hand, a decrease of just three treated individuals (from 4 to 1 out of 19) yields an (unadjusted) odds ratio of 0.88, which would enable a claim of a 12-percent reduction in mental health assistance from getting the surgery. These large swings in estimates are due to very small adjustments in the data. As is often the case with small samples, tiny changes lead to large fluctuations in estimated effects. But, for this patient population, you are not going to find larger data collection projects than the Swedish data. This is as good as it gets when it comes to studying transgender medical experiences and outcomes.

Another helpful statistic I calculated is called the NNT, or “Number Needed to Treat.” It’s a measure of clinical impact. In this study, the NNT appears to be a staggering 49, meaning the beneficial effect of surgery is so small that a clinic may have to perform 49 gender-affirming surgeries before they could expect to prevent one additional person from seeking subsequent mental health assistance [ref] In this case, the NNT = -1 * [1/[(OR-1)UER] + OR/[(OR-1)(1-UER)]]. Using an adjusted odds ratio (OR) of 0.92 and an unexposed event rate (UER) = 0.453, I get NNT = 49 cases. The UER I employ here comes from the mood/anxiety treatment rate for “perioperative” individuals with gender incongruence, as reported in the study’s Figure 1. The term “perioperative,” however, is vague and not defined by the authors. (It could mean right before or right after surgery.) It is not, however, a control group (that is, of Swedes diagnosed with gender incongruence who have not pursued surgical treatment). However, even such a control group would have limitations, including selection bias (e.g., screening for co-occurring mental illness or a lower level of gender dysphoria). Indeed, a prospective randomized controlled trial is not possible with this population. Nevertheless, the number employed offers a reasonable baseline UER, given the available data. NNTs below 10 “usually denote a worthwhile difference when comparing one intervention with another,” notes Leslie Citrome in “Quantifying Clinical Relevance.”[/ref]. If no other treatment was available, or the treatment was not invasive and the hazards were insignificant, clinics might consider surgery a low-risk but low-payoff approach. But none of those applies here. Conducting 49 surgeries to secure one additional patient who benefits? Unheard of.

The authors are nevertheless quick to declare that “this study provides timely support for policies that ensure coverage of gender-affirming treatments.” I cannot see how such confidence is merited. Time since hormonal treatment yielded no discernible effect on subsequent use of mental health treatment, while the modest effect of surgery hinges on a handful of cases from an earlier era (10 or more years ago) when very few gender dysphoric patients pursued surgery at all. And it’s not a leap to wonder whether those who did so a decade ago are a different kind of group than those who do so today. Moreover, suicide—the threat that seems to prompt all the urgency in doing something radical to alleviate psychological distress in these patients—may well have claimed an unknown number of Swedes who had had gender-affirming surgery ten or more years ago. We just don’t know, because the study does not track completed suicides for this sample.

If this were a clinical trial seeking to establish the efficacy of a particularly invasive medical treatment in comparison with a non-invasive standard protocol, there is no way that these published results would favor the invasive treatment—in this case, “gender affirming” surgery—when the statistical difference in outcomes was so tiny and fragile. This is not, contrary to what Bränström told ABC News, an evidence-informed treatment. That the authors corrupted otherwise excellent data and analyses with a skewed interpretation signals an abandonment of scientific rigor and reason in favor of complicity with activist groups seeking to normalize infertility-inducing and permanently disfiguring surgeries.

Physicians should not be pushed to prescribe such profoundly consequential treatment by threat of call-out, malpractice suits, patient demand, or—in this case—the overreaching interpretations of quality data. Clinicians are being bullied into writing a radical prescription based on fear, not on sensible conclusions from empirical data.

But this reasonable position is getting more difficult to defend. Less than two months after another team of activist psychiatrists landed a weak study on “conversion” therapy in the journal JAMA Psychiatry, its lead author has commenced a movement aimed at a wholesale ban on such a notion. This is alarming, especially since the idea itself—“converting” from having become convinced you are born in the wrong body to concluding that you can live with the body you have—is nonsensical. There is no defined psychotherapeutic method for treating gender dysphoria that can be widely characterized and consistently identified as “conversion therapy” in order to be banned. Nor has there been a clinical trial evaluating specific psychotherapeutic methods of counseling gender dysphoria that could potentially demonstrate whether such methods are helpful or harmful.

This is not how normal medical research works.


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