“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
This SPECIAL TOO MUCH WINNING THURSDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
Say what you want, comment on what other people said, comment on people’s comments. Keep it civil. Treehouse rules, but expect lots of QAnon.
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In a world where the “5 PM Friday Night Washington Drop” is actually a thing, we might have expected what happened this Christmas Eve. However, we don’t have to like it, or even put up with it.
Yes, sexual assault happens. Yes, sometimes it’s “gay”. Yes, sometimes it borders on pedophilia. Yes, sometimes the details are graphic, or even too graphic. Yes, sometimes it involves famous people. Yes, sometimes those people have been protected by Hollywood for years. Yes, sometimes we have been primed to hear these things by our own quest for justice in a post-Obama world.
However, sometimes the INTENT of those who deliver this information to us, to do something even NASTIER, is very clear.
It could be called adding INSULT to INJURY.
The fact that Satanic Hollywood would want to protect one of its own – Kevin Spacey – by releasing devastating criminal information about him on the news-sleepiest night of the year – Christmas Eve – is understandable.
The fact that religion-hating Communist Fake News would want to CARRY that information on Christmas or Christmas Eve is also understandable.
But what I’m going to do now, after embargoing that information so that I could have a peaceful and reverent Christmas, is also understandable.
I’m going to talk about the information, just a little bit, so that I can actually talk about the real story.
Our beloved friend wheatietoo posted these 3 tweets on Christmas Eve, but then I held them in moderation until now. I promised her that I would post them later, and as you can see, that’s exactly what I’m doing.
Here they are:
Kevin Spacey to be arraigned on sexual assault charge.
I don’t know what happened in this incident, and I have not yet begun to research it. I’m not sure if I will, frankly. I don’t have a lot of stomach for these sorts of incidents any more. Reading all 58 autopsies from the Las Vegas Andy McCabe Memorial FBI/DNC/KGB/CIA/FSB/XXX (Classified) Modern MK Psychological Operation murders was pretty ugly. I think there are a lot of people who deserve to hang for this shit. But that’s another story.
Anyway, I will probably let other people dig into the Kevin Spacey story.
I’m going to talk about the responsibility of Satanic Hollywood and Communist Fake News for what they did.
They did not have to release this stuff WHEN they did, with the obvious knowledge that it would DEGRADE, DETRACT, and DISTRACT from Christmas. But they did it anyway. They did it with INTENTION.
These rotten-corpse media dinosaurs are TRULY and UTTERLY our enemies.
This was, in essence, a psychological operation. Anybody who has had FBI or CIA influencers / informants / assets / spies around them knows about influence operations. The movie Inception turned this simple idea about implanting thoughts into an entire story – which was actually one of Hollywood’s better moments.
The thing is, Hollywood is now out of control. Utterly, absolutely, jumped-the-shark, out of control.
This is all planned, of course. This is how the Communists / Socialists / Whatever set up World War II. Through a combination of mass social psychological tricks, Germany was manipulated into exactly what happened.
What will hold America together and defeat these evil people is FAITH. Germany was destroyed when its Christians let Hitler drag them away from their moral center. They did not stand up for their Jewish neighbors, their Masons, Gypsies, gays, Jehovah’s Witnesses, and all the rest. They did not stand up for the rights and freedoms of all, so SOCIALISM picked them off one at a time. Socialism used a psychotic antisemite with a catchy brand and an Obama silver tongue to do it.
Part of the problem is that the good people of Germany were not sufficiently armed, nor independent of mind, to do anything.
WE ARE. If need be. Hopefully not, but we could have an Army of the People that could take down the Cabal very quickly. And THAT is why they so desperately want our guns.
The fact is, however, that our guns protect us much more in an unfired state. As long as we refuse to give them up, we will be OK.
Stay focused. Stay peaceful.
Trust me – SOON – the people who are causing the problems are not going to be causing the problems any more.
The Nazi party – “National Socialism” – was a cunning leftist creation. It was a watered-down version of “international socialism”, meaning the KPD (Communist Party of Germany). Nazism was designed to sell socialism to patriotic people who refused to buy full-fledged international socialism, but might be convinced to buy into a NATIONAL version of something similar.
In the confusion of a Germany under relentless communist attacks, people made bad choices and did stupid things – as the left desired. Those bad choices and stupid things destroyed Germany.
All of these idiots trying to sell us globalism and “anti-sell” us on loving our own country are trying to sell us the same old SHIT in new packages.
Don’t buy it. It’s SOCIALISM. It may be in some new package, but it’s SOCIALISM.
No matter how they rebrand this garbage, it’s BAD.
You don’t want it – trust me.
Socialism may show up as the cultural Marxism of Hollywood debauchery. It may show up as a dumb but weirdly attractive suburban Hispanic girl who makes DSA “cool”. It may show up as #MeToo feminist finger-pointing insanity. It may show up as Hillary Clinton or Kamala Harris. Or it may show up as an anti-constitutional reaction to ALL of those things, led by some Alt-right weirdo who says “white people” need to adopt socialism to survive.
RUN AWAY.
But now my big, final point.
These people in Hollywood and Fake News are NOT on our side. Don’t expect them to change. DROP THEIR PRODUCTS. Cut the cable. Stop going to movies – especially stuff that seems like psychological influence of ANY kind.
Also, do not buy the NON-DEGRADED substitutes (meaning quality movies) out of CHINA. This is all part of their plan. Hurt America. Steal the business.
Chinese communists will DESTROY Hollywood and STEAL the industry. If you support Hollywood, you support Chinese subversion. If you support China, you support Chinese subversion.
It’s going to be rough, but we have to MAKE THEM PAY.
This SPECIAL BOXING DAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
Say what you want, comment on what other people said, comment on people’s comments. Keep it civil. Treehouse rules, but expect lots of QAnon.
Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU
I’m working on some big posts – STAY TUNED!!! 😎
W
OUR SYMBOLS DON’T NEED TO BE HIDDEN. BUT WE MAY CHOOSE SUBTLETY FOR FASHION’S SAKE.
This is a very simple post. This is for everybody here to do something very simple, but very important.
Just wish Q, Q+, and the whole Q Team a Merry Christmas, and thank them for their service.
Just leave a personal note of thanks.
Sometimes a word of THANKS – maybe even with a tear in our eye – is more important than any kind of payment.
Thank you, Q. Thank you, Q+. Thank you, Q Team. Thank you to all you patriots, and all the other patriots you work with, wherever they are.
Thank you for watching over us, because I know you ARE watching over us.
There is iron in your words. Not everyone can see the iron, but those of us who can, cherish it more than any gold, or any paper.
Wolf Moon
Thanks again, Q. Thanks for everything you do.
W
It’s sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see, and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. The words of Ten Bears carries the same iron of life and death. It is good that warriors such as we meet in the struggle of life… or death. It shall be life.
This SPECIAL CHRISTMAS open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
Say what you want, comment on what other people said, comment on people’s comments. Keep it civil. Treehouse rules, but expect lots of QAnon.
Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU
For Christmas, I decided to “keep the Christ in Christmas” and choose images of nativity scenes for this post. I love abstract art for its deep symbolic meaning, which helps us concentrate on the spiritual. I also love impressionist art for its deep feeling. The impressionist nativity scene below was my favorite, but if I used it as a header, the Christ Child at the bottom would not be in the image when viewed at the page itself. In other words, I would not be “keeping the Christ in Christmas”, defeating my purpose.
Therefore I chose the abstract image you see, which includes all the important figures, ESPECIALLY the Christ Child, and which fortuitously placed the Three Wolf Moon site avatar exactly where you see it. The placement (desktop version) was so oddly symbolic of our group’s spiritual awe and respect, hovering mysteriously nearby yet untouching and unseen, as if we were there invisibly in spirit, that I decided it had to be the one! But that also meant I could use the impressionist image here, where you can appreciate the whole thing.
Some things are just meant to be. Ponder these images and you will be refreshed in spirit. Both of them say so much. Which Bible verses do they speak to you?
Please feel free to add every possible Christmas image to this thread!
We will NOT be discussing the Cultural Marxist “pedophile” info-bomb purposefully released by Satanic Hollywood and Satanic Fake News on Christmas Eve, until December 26.
If you know what I’m talking about, good. If you don’t, you’ll know it when you see it elsewhere. This was very shrewdly done, and we will DEFUSE it by ignoring it until after the Holiday.
At that time, I will dissect and drop mega-blame where it belongs.
Thank you for your understanding. This is how we win. This is good practice in letting their attacks pass right through us, and then fighting back hard.
Let it pass from your mind until it is gone. Concentrate on Christ, and the Word, and the Law. Concentrate on the Spirit of Truth. All else will vanish.
Suck it up, God’s buttercup! 😉 <3
PS – No comments. Learn silent running when fighting this battle. 😎
W
We now have the information sophistication of WWII vets and the spiritual sophistication of Revolutionary War veterans, and we will DEFEAT THE CABAL.
Otherwise Best Described as a Somewhat Strange but Beautiful and Heartfelt Message to the Staff of this Esteemed Company from the People in Logistics on Christmas Eve
ON TIME AND UNDER BUDGET – THE TRUMP WAY
First of all, Merry Christmas! (And belated Happy Hanukkah if I missed you back then!)
Which is actually what I wanted to talk about.
LOGISTICS. The LOGISTICS of the season.
I am finally running into the SAME problems that Sundance did.
I realize that it is essential for me to actually BE on the board, talking to people, helping to keep it happy, civil, tolerant, and SHARP. Yes indeed. Saying outrageous things for you to disagree with keeps you people SHARP – and you’d better not disagree! 😉
But even more importantly, I need to be on the board so I can do simple things, like saying hi, and wishing people well on the Holidays.
You know, like….
MERRY CHRISTMAS!
HAPPY HANUKKAH!
maybe even….
HAPPY AND PROSPEROUS DIWALI!
Heck – I may even wish you a
MERRY MOLE DAY (October 23)
or a
MAXIMALLY MAGNIFICENT MAX PLANCK’S BIRTHDAY (April 23)
For you truest believers in chemistry and quantum mechanics among us!
“Gentlemen – let us resolve to make science great again with this Drumpf guy!”
But then there are those problems of….
LOGISTICS
I “have to” (yeah, I know – LOL – complain, complain, complain) write posts for you all to comment on, EVEN if it’s just the daily thread. And as the site grows, I am finding that I simply cannot keep up with all the great comments. I’m missing a LOT of them – including well-wishes and very touching and sincere messages. Sometimes I run into them DAYS later.
SO – I just want you to know – if I don’t return a message, I probably didn’t see it. BUT THAT IS OK, because OTHERS DID.
That is how special this group is. That is how GOD works. That is how PRAYER works. It all goes to the same place in a very beautiful way.
So I want you to trust that if you leave a nice message to me, and I don’t respond, I will get it anyway, in some way, at the time of God’s choosing, and in the manner He prescribes. Because YOU KNOW WHO will take care of it. One way or another, it will get to me.
This SPECIAL CHRISTMAS EVE open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
Say what you want, comment on what other people said, comment on people’s comments. Keep it civil. Treehouse rules, but expect lots of QAnon.
Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU
Today (Monday, December 24) is the last day of Advent – Christmas Eve.
The 146th day of next year, which shall be celebrated here as Ma Cankles Uranium Day, is:
SUNDAY, MAY 26, 2019
I highly recommend a visit to whitehouse.gov where you can find wonderful historical pages, including a page for that most faithful patriot, George Washington, who risked all on a cold Christmas night to save his fledgling Country. His advice to the nation upon leaving office still rings true.
I leave this as an open question, although this thread is ultimately concerned with somebody named Barbara Olson, who died on 9/11.
I believe that the method of Barbara’s murder is now demonstrated.
Introduction
The key to solving 9/11 is realizing that it was a CLINTON-centered operation which was launched AFTER the Clintons left the White House, in order to deflect attention from their central role.
9/11 served as a way – a contingency plan – to CONTROL the behavior of the United States, and in particular the Republicans, should Al Gore not win the presidency in 2000. It was a control-of-opposition operation, much like Charlottesville, only much, much larger.
I began questioning the official 9/11 story when Stephen McIntyre reminded me that Robert Mueller’s prosecutions have a PATTERN.
1/ THREAD. Mueller's indictment of 13 people far away from US jurisdiction and who won't appear for trial reminds me of a similar and very publicized but under-discussed incident just as he assumed FBI directorship.
The pattern which McIntyre was primarily demonstrating was the pattern of Robert Mueller indicting a good number of people (13 both times) who were overseas and out of reach of actual prosecution.
(As an aside, this pattern was useful to me later in pursuing the fact that Mueller indicted Russian agents living near Nicholas Cruz. This is critical in understanding what is going on for OTHER reasons.)
A secondary pattern shown by McIntyre was that Mueller seemed to have pursued a WRONG PROSECUTION in the Khobar Towers case, and by implication of incompetence or politics, he might be wrongly pursuing Trump.
Other commenters showed that this pattern of wrong prosecutions by Robert Mueller extended to others, including multiple innocent defendants while informant Whitey Bulger was protected, as well as wrongly accused anthrax researcher Steven Hatfill.
A third pattern was close and purposeful interaction of Robert Mueller with James Comey in the very sketchy Khobar Towers bombing prosecutions, very reminiscent of the sketchy Mueller special counsel.
Thus, I was led to believe that Bill Clinton’s “aw, shucks, missed again” pursuit of Osama/Usama bin Laden (UBL) – typified by the notorious “aspirin factory bombing” – was in fact a fraud, and that the real goal of the Clintons was to set up a major terror event for multiple reasons, including self-enrichment and self-empowerment.
Later, when Q made me aware of Beverly Eckert’s death, and after looking into the death of JFK Jr., I became further convinced that these things were all connected to the Clintons.
A critical connection for me was the idea that videographic hoaxing had been used for the plane strikes on the Twin Towers, with a small group of NYC-based videographers in on the scam. This MATCHED my own knowledge of an off-the-books scandal that I refer to as CA3, in which a reporter/videographer pair from the NYC market attempted to create false videographic evidence as part of LAWFARE being used for Democrat politics (CA3 = Conspiracy to Advance Affirmative Action).
The key slip-up in the 9/11 videographic fraud is Peter Jennings reacting on-air to the primary error, referred to as “Pinocchio’s nose”. This rules out the idea that the erroneous footage is later disinformation. Note also that I have tracked down certain recent anti-NASA “flat earth” disinformation, and connected it to much earlier 9/11 disinformation which was out of the NYC area. The fact that NYC now has a communist mayor is not a coincidence.
The totality of information on the plane-building videography and blatant unphysicality of the filmed strike shows me that there were errors made in terms of the durability of the deception versus crowd perception and reasoning, with the crowd advancing faster than anticipated.
I currently leave open a number of aspects of 9/11, but my theorizing now centers on two ideas: (1) large-scale Potemkin blood hoaxing, and (2) Clinton centrality.
What follows is based on this.
The Question of Barbara Olson
Barbara Olson was a lawyer and persistent investigator of Hillary Clinton during the Clinton administration. She was responsible for several of the most damaging Clinton scandals being revealed.
Olson wrote a book in 1999, as the Clinton administration began to close down, and Hillary Clinton prepared to run for a Senate seat in New York.
Tonawanda asked this question (image followed by text quote):
Tonawanda December 23, 2018 at 6:19 am E The death of Barbara Olson is so suspicious to me. At the time I wondered if she was a Ron Brown type “throw in” for 911, a favor done for Hillary. It sounds like a theory from behind the Tin Foil Curtain, but I think how well coordinated the whole plot was. What would it take to get Olson on that specific flight, trapped in existential terror before her death? Hillary is in love with unimpeded power, which means she is in love with unimpeded evil. Part of unimpeded power is lust for total revenge. I have a friend who openly disrespected Hillary in a public forum. My friend was subsequently subjected to protracted, devastating legal proceedings where injustice reigned at every turn. The instigator of the proceedings had a direct connection to Hillary. No one can prove it, but it is hard not to suspect this was Hillary’s revenge. In part, the persecution Our President is enduring IMO is very personal revenge direct from Hillary.
Tonawanda, December 23, 2018, The Q Tree
I KNEW I had seen that Barbara Olson had an event she had to get to, and that this controlled her schedule. Later, I learned that she had TWO events bracketing 9/11, and this even more tightly controlled her schedule, but based on knowledge of only ONE event, I said this.
wolfmoon1776 December 23, 2018 at 12:33 pm E “What would it take to get Olson on that specific flight, trapped in existential terror before her death?” I figured it out. Holy fucking shit. She was MURDERED. Thread going up.
Wolf Moon, December 23, 2018, The Q Tree
The Event People
The reason I am able to state this categorically, is that I actually have experience with the unit who I refer to as “The Event People”. They are probably CIA or a hidden agency. They work by abusing NSA data – this is key to how they are able to PREDICT what people will do, when they will do it, and then manipulate them in these instances. They are basically trap-layers. They are not the “IMF” – they are REAL and FALLIBLE – which is why I’m telling you about them.
The way to CATCH them is to have some idea when, where, and HOW they will strike – to walk THROUGH their traps – and not take the cheese.
Knowing about one’s own NSA data is key to busting them. Knowing WHEN they have irresistible bait in front of them is very, very helpful.
I have interacted with these people multiple times over my life. Based on those experiences, I can tell what levels of data they need, and what kinds of circumstances “draw them out”. An essential component is when people are CONSTRAINED by something important. If a person is GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE, or GOING TO SEE SOMEBODY – these are critical bottlenecks that are used to attain predictability. Then the key is setting up a scenario in the path of the person.
Knowing that one is IN such a scenario is how to get out.
As soon as I saw that Barbara Olson was flying to LA on 9/11 for taping of an appearance with Bill Maher on “Politically Incorrect”, I realized that this was how she was taken out – by being manipulated onto the flight.
This obeys what I call the “Economy of Events Principle” – the idea that multiple “coincidences” protect each other from discovery as being planned events. It is a particularly efficient way to close out loose ends close to the plot. You know the saying that “truth is stranger than fiction”. This REALLY WORKS as psychological cover. People will psychologically dismiss something as “too weird” when coincidences stack up. They tell themselves that nobody would or could plan this.
WRONG.
I want you to think about this very carefully. Let me ask some questions to demonstrate how easy it is to lead somebody into a trap. Remember – ENTRAPMENT is a thing which law enforcement and intelligence do ROUTINELY. LE tries to do “just less than entrapment” – IC has no such bounds. The Event People are limited only by “what they can get away with without detection”. They seem to be very skilled at not overplaying their hand, and can always fall back to something like “we’re just the FBI” if they get caught.
Sound like Page and Strzok? You betcha. It’s THAT WORLD. Which by now you know REALLY EXISTS.
Here we go.
How many calls to how many people do I need to get somebody on a plane?
How many calls to how many people do I need to get my favorite critic interviewed by a famous friend, at a particular time, without necessarily involving that friend?
How many people’s phones do I need to listen to, to make sure things happen?
If I never use the NSA data to go to court, will anybody ever know I abused it?
Are there or were there ever any back doors to NSA data in place?
Was there ever any abuse of NSA data by Democrats?
When people find out that they have “inadvertently” become involved in something shady and utterly unbelievable, what do they do?
Would they tell themselves it was coincidence?
Would they fear the power of the people who might have arranged things?
Would they fear that they would not be believed, or called “crazy”?
Now – I want to give you the story that freaked me out. Read it, knowing what I just told you.
The bolded parts are critical.
Witnessed Event: American Airlines Flight 77
Barbara Olson was a lawyer, author and conservative American television commentator. In 1994, she joined the United States House of Representatives, becoming chief investigative counsel for the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee. In that position, Olson led a number of different investigations into the Clinton administration. She exposed the White House travel office scandal and the FBI files controversy. Olson published a collection of books that examine the history of Hillary Clinton and the actions of Bill Clinton in the final days of his presidency. Some of her accusations include unlawful pardons by Bill Clinton, the looting of the White House and executive orders that were sheer abuses of presidential power. On January 20, 2001, Bill Clinton pardoned 140 people in the final hours of his presidency.
In 1996, Barbara Olson married a man named Ted Olson. Ted successfully represented presidential candidate George W. Bush in the Supreme Court case of Bush v. Gore, which effectively determined the final result of the contested 2000 Presidential election. He subsequently served as United States Solicitor General in the Bush administration. On September 11, 2001, Barbara Olson boarded American Airlines Flight 77 traveling from Virginia to Los Angeles. She was visiting Los Angeles for a taping of Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher.
On September 11, 2001, Flight 77 was hijacked at 8:54. Between 9:16 and 9:26, Olson called her husband. According to him, she reported that the flight had been hijacked, and that the hijackers had knives and box-cutters. A minute into the conversation, the call was cut off. Shortly after, Barbara reached her husband again. Ted Olson asked for her location and she replied that the plane was flying over houses. Ted informed Barbara of the two previous hijackings and crashes. She didn’t display signs of panic over the phone. American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the western side of the Pentagon at 09:37 EDT. All 64 people on board were killed, including Barbara Olson. Following her death, Politically Incorrect host, Bill Maher, left a panel seat vacant for a week.
The two phone calls Barbara Olson made from Flight 77 are an important factor to the accepted story of 9/11. They provide evidence that American 77 had been aloft after it had disappeared from FAA radar around 9:00 AM. The calls are also the only source of the widely accepted idea that the hijackers had box cutters. The story has been scrutinized by a collection of researchers, who have accused Ted Olson of changing his account. He originally indicated that Barbara used a cell phone to call him, but later said she called using an airline phone. The technology to enable cell phone calls from high-altitude flights wasn’t developed until 2004.
From a source archived here: https://archive.fo/k2XVn
Now – add to THIS constraint (Bill Maher taping) another one, which pinned her down almost with certainty to one specific flight. Link:
Ten years ago, Olson became the most famous person in D.C. to lose a loved one in the terrorist attacks: His wife, conservative commentator Barbara Olson, was on American Airlines Flight 77 when it crashed into the Pentagon. She had delayed a trip to California so she could be in town for his birthday dinner the night before.
Washington Post, September 9, 2011
I make no claims beyond the fact that this woman Barbara Olson was murdered. I do not know when, where, or in what manner. As I no longer accept the “official” explanation of 9/11, that leaves open a lot of possibilities. I suspect there was much evil hoaxing, fooling people at every step of the way, before they were killed. Remains? No problem.
“History books.”
The takeover of America surreptitiously by two foreign superpowers through traitors is not a simple thing.
It is clear that NOBODY was higher on Hillary’s list of enemies than Barbara Olson. Absolutely nobody. And remember Judge Kavanaugh, and his role as a critic of the Clintons, and the HELL that Hillary put him through. Barbara Olson was many times more of a problem for Hillary.
HOWEVER, that is not the most important reason to kill her. Barbara Olson was an extreme risk to the 9/11 plan. She would have INSTANTLY figured out that it was the Clintons behind the operation, and begun to unravel it. She simply had too much knowledge of the Clintons. In the “identification of risks” stage, Barbara Olson would have been identified, without question.
Barbara Olson herself was dangerous to the 9/11 plot. She had to be killed. THAT is the real motive.
The plotters needed to fold the loose end into the plan itself and then CLOSE IT OUT.
Right now I am researching one of the most horrifying unrevealed cases of Cloward-Piven TREASON which has yet to see the light of day. Once people see this, the jig is up for Bill and Hillary Clinton. Their utter betrayal of Americans will ASTOUND.
And they are not alone. There are several other Democrat names currently in politics that are associated with this nightmare.
I only stumbled upon this scandal accidentally, thanks to a post by Elizabeth Carter, which fired ONE errant neuron through some old data, and into a total OMG WTF jackpot of converging treason.
MOAR on that later.
I do have to say this. Everything Q has been telling us is true. I am getting independent confirmations. This is what Q was after. To get us to use what is already out here and connect the dots. The media has not done so, but WE CAN.
By the way, I am not in danger because of this knowledge. I am POSITIVE that Q already knows this. It WILL come out. Period.
ANYWAY…..
In the process of this research, I also stumbled upon some thoughts which have ALMOST been wiped off the internet, but which hang on, barely, providing certain insights into the CRIMES of Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Among those thoughts, was an explanation of why ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION became important to the stealth radicals which included the Clinton clan and the Obama clan. Not only that, but WHEN it became important. The implications are thus that the radicals DID NOT CHANGE THEIR MINDS ON THIS TOPIC. They never believed in border security. Open borders were PLANNED.
They LIED. All of these guys – Obama, the Clintons, Schumer, Biden, Gore – all of the ones who KNEW the truth – they LIED and pretended to be AGAINST illegal immigration until it was SAFE to be openly FOR IT.
Stated clearly….
THEY PLANNED TO USE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION ALL ALONG.
Now – the real answer. WHY.
Cloward-Piven attacks on existing weaknesses in the American economy (things like encouraging people onto welfare) had begun during the early 1970s, and were somewhat further enabled by Jimmy Carter. However, Reagan and Bush sensibility got in the way. Sensible politics and politicians not only allowed people to SEE and FIX Cloward-Piven attacks – sensible politicians in charge – people who were NOT actual saboteurs of government – made it very difficult to create NEW Cloward-Piven attacks.
That all changed when the Clintons entered the White House. For the first time, not just dupes, but actual saboteurs were in control of the wheels and levers.
Much was possible.
During the Clinton’s FIRST term, 1993-1996, the radicals were able to operate FREELY, creating NEW Cloward-Piven set-ups, with STUNNING SUCCESS. You will hear more about that soon.
However, at the SAME TIME, patriotic, honest people were getting wise to the OLD Cloward-Piven attacks. In particular, WELFARE ABUSE.
By 1996, voters were demanding “Welfare Reform”. And guess who helped design it?
That’s right. Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. Working for Bill Clinton.
The Cloward-Piven strategy depended on surprise. Once society recovered from the initial shock, the backlash began. New York’s welfare crisis horrified America, giving rise to a reform movement which culminated in “the end of welfare as we know it” — the 1996 Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act, which imposed time limits on federal welfare, along with strict eligibility and work requirements. Both Cloward and Piven attended the White House signing of the bill as guests of President Clinton.
Most Americans to this day have never heard of Cloward and Piven. But New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani attempted to expose them in the late 1990s. As his drive for welfare reform gained momentum, Giuliani accused the militant scholars by name, citing their 1966 manifesto as evidence that they had engaged in deliberate economic sabotage. “This wasn’t an accident,” Giuliani charged in a 1997 speech. “It wasn’t an atmospheric thing, it wasn’t supernatural. This is the result of policies and programs designed to have the maximum number of people get on welfare.”
Cloward and Piven never again revealed their intentions as candidly as they had in their 1966 article. Even so, their activism in subsequent years continued to rely on the tactic of overloading the system. When the public caught on to their welfare scheme, Cloward and Piven simply moved on, applying pressure to other sectors of the bureaucracy, wherever they detected weakness.
Free Republic, February 27, 2005
Actually, it turns out that Frances Fox Piven simply could not resist gloating ONE MORE TIME – this time in 2010, about how the radicals had “fixed” Cloward-Piven using immigration. Piven was cagey and didn’t mention her old strategy per se, but one can see her political cunning in terms of the defusing of unions against the immigrants, with the ultimate goal of fueling protests – CLEARLY part of her old strategy.
The following comes from a wonderful article by Chuck Norris. Yes – THE Chuck Norris.
You see, it’s not a coincidence either that these new drivers and voters, who have flooded and are still flooding into our country through porous borders, are also at the heart of plan to overload the U.S. welfare system under the Cloward-Piven strategy.As Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa told WND: “I do feel this attempt to flood the border with illegals is a playing out of the Cloward-Piven theory.”
In 2010, Frances Piven, who is also one of eight honorary chairs in the Democratic Socialists of America, gave an interview to the progressive Common Dreams in which she confessed: “The important development is the emergence of a feisty immigration movement that contemporary unions have no choice but to support, especially unions with large numbers of immigrants in their ranks. … Together with [students and their universities, service workers – not industrial, and] immigrants, these are the constituencies that will give birth to new protest movements.”
Chuck Norris, July 26, 2015 in WND
Yeah, she’s DSA, too. IMAGINE THAT. A saboteur. A political IED maker. That is EXACTLY what these people are. Political and social bombers.
Given that it is likely the 2008 crash was a DESIGNED Cloward-Piven event, and Obama’s half of the subsequent 16-year plan (2009-2016) involved intentional immigration malfeasance even in his first term, it is likely that illegal immigration was designed to be abused for Democrats in 2008 AT THE LATEST, and likely as early as 1996, when Cloward Piven was clearly under assault, and new tactics were needed.
With that in mind, let’s look at Q’s most recent posts. These things fall DIRECTLY into my research.
Personally, I’m no longer buying that Bill Clinton believed ANYTHING he was telling us during his 8 years in office. We KNOW he was a devotee of Cloward-Piven from the MOMENT he took office in 1993. So no – Q is calling this properly.