“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
….this happened:
And the entire world began to change. For the better.
Happy 4th Trump Announces His Presidential Candidacy anniversary!!! 
Because no one else would…..
What were you doing that day?
What did you think?
Did you know profound, unprecedented change was happening?
What major wins really stand out to you since he took office?
Tell us your story.
#MAGA #WWG1WGA #WINNING #MADEINUSA
Welcome! The door is open, come on inside and get comfy.
This Saving Our Republic Saturday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
Free Speech is practiced here at the Q Tree. In fact, our host Wolfmoon encourages us to use it…and Enjoy it. “Use it or lose it”, he tells us.
But please keep it civil. Discussion of Q is not only allowed but encouraged. Imagine that! We can talk about Q here and not get banned.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.
Remember – your greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU.
Wheatie’s Rules:
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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition mix from Fearless Motivation, titled ‘Self Confidence’:
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Visual Descriptions for our dear Zoe, and for anyone else who may find them helpful:
Header Image: Is a big Tree with an arched doorway in the trunk. There is a cobblestone path leading up to the doorway with a couple of stone steps. Spanish Moss and ivy cover the trunk and trails off of the spreading branches. There are different sized windows at intervals up the trunk and a soft glow is coming from the windows, as well as an arched window above the door.
It is dark in the forest surrounding the Tree, but there are glowing lanterns hanging from the Tree’s branches, lighting the way. Fireflies are dancing in the clearing around the Tree.
Second Image: Is a cozy interior room, with a comfy couch across from a heater that is giving off a warm glow. There is a rounded-top window revealing a view of the forest vegetation. Books are rowed up along the wide window sill and nearby is a small bookshelf full of books. Candles and a few globe-shaped lights create soft lighting in the room. There are tree branches supporting the ceiling and a staircase leading into the room.
Third Image: Is a graphic of President Trump, giving a thumbs up with his right hand. The words, “Where We Go One”, are above his head…and the words, “We Go All”, are below his image.
Yes. There is a DIFFERENT place called “Parlor” that the Cabal is trying to get people to go to instead of Parler. It even gets favored in search engines and app stores. I have no idea who is behind Parlor, but it’s probably GOOLAG, the CHICOMS, the WOCOMMIE SISTERS, or the KGB-CIA. *** AVOID ***
Only PARLER with an “E” is dedicated to FREE SPEECH.
By the way, I love saying WOCOMMIE SISTERS. It sounds like a BAD BAND.
Here is the REAL McCOY: https://home.parler.com/
If you type your REAL NAME into any field in social media (such as “Gab” or “WordPress” or “Parler”) that says “Name”, you risk people seeing that name.
In fact, if you use your REAL NAME in ANY WAY in connection to a social media account, you risk being “doxxed”.
So if your email address is myrealname@company.com, then any HACKER of the site knows that YOU own the account.
You MAY or MAY NOT be comfortable with that.
On Parler (formerly pronounced “par-LAY”, now pronounced “PAR-luhr”) you can create an account that is “really you”, and you can get verified as being really you. But you don’t have to do that if you want to remain anonymous.
For POLITICS, I suggest you remain anonymous. To do that, don’t use your real name. Use a name like:
It doesn’t have to be real. It could be:
Then, use an email address that is not OBVIOUSLY you.
Are we clear about this?
If you actually associate your REAL NAME with an account, even if it’s “supposed to be hidden”, there is a RISK that – SOMEHOW – your real name, and not your USER NAME, will be released. It could be by hacking, by accidental release of the information (you check a box that says “Show my name” and it means your NAME and not your USER NAME), or just by you not understanding that when people go to your profile, they will see your name.
Please also note that Parler obeys AMERICAN laws about privacy, speech, and all that other stuff – not European laws.
If any of this is STILL confusing to you – the idea that if you put your real name into a social media product (meaning it’s on the internet) – that other people might see it somehow – then I suggest not doing anything new at this time.
Otherwise, I suggest that you NEVER type any personal information into a computer that you use for politics on the internet. NEVER. Using that rule, work out everything else, and only the intelligence agencies and who they support (such as the American communists and/or DNC) will know who you are. Because they have ALREADY stolen that information.
W
By the way, our VSGPOTUS Trump is not on PARLER yet, but I am starting to think it’s inevitable, so GET ON PARLER NOW!!!
Assuming that you understand this warning, I then suggest that you use the same handle (meaning USER NAME) you’ve been using on Twitter and/or Gab and/or WordPress, simply because it makes you easier to find for your FRIENDS.
However, if you want maximum security, then you can always use a completely different user name. The choice is yours.
NOW – finally – to the point of this thread.
If you are on Parler, please add your Parler handle (spelled exactly) in the comments. We are NOT using Parler for reorganization, because GAB is more robust and “commie-proof”. However, you are likely getting OFF Twitter and ONTO Parler, and we can share our Parler user names here.
Mine is the same on Parler as it is on Twitter and Gab: WOLFM00N with two zeroes in m00n.
SO – how do you GET onto Parler?
Go to this URL – https://home.parler.com
You can sign up there. Follow the directions – it’s all very easy. You ONLY NEED AN EMAIL ADDRESS. But I strongly suggest deciding things BEFORE you go there:
Don’t pick stuff you are going to forget. THE NUMBER ONE PROBLEM I see in users of social media is people picking obscure stuff and forgetting. DON’T DO THAT. Write stuff down if you have to.
Then start by going to my handle or somebody else you know. Look through my followers, and who I am following. You will see people you know. FOLLOW THEM!!!
And you are OFF TO THE RACES!!!
W
a.k.a. wolfmoon1776 on WordPress, wolf_moon on Disqus, WOLFM00N everywhere else.
This FREE MARKET SOCIAL MEDIA FRIDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
And while the most important thing you can do is to be able to tell our President THIS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
And you may STILL be able to sign his birthday card!
It’s almost President Trump’s BIRTHDAY!
— GOP (@GOP) June 9, 2019
Wish our GREAT President a happy birthday HEREhttps://t.co/8AGq1aYNzV
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
This video (H/T duchess01) of Parler CEO John Matze talking with The Epoch Times is truly enlightening.
You will feel very good about the future of Parler as a Twitter replacement after you see this video. There is a SOUND commitment on Matze’s part to shunning SOCIALIST solutions and instead embracing FREE MARKET solutions. Conservatives, libertarians, and classic liberals will all find comfort in Matze’s thinking.
Commies – not so much.
We have been asking the question – what should we call media other than “socialist media”? Matze has the answer:
FREE MARKET SOCIAL MEDIA
One of the really amazing moments here is the frank discussion of FAKE NAZIS (actually fake white supremacists, but we’re talking about the same people). Nobody EVER addresses these leftist shills – until now. And speaking of leftist attack dogs, their number one target, Candace Owens is mentioned as well.
Anyway, please enjoy this video!
I will be putting out a couple of articles soon – my long-promised censorship piece, and also one reporting on a fascinating RABBITHOLE that I went down today, and came back with ALTERED HISTORY.
Stay tuned!
W
This THINKING ABOUT THINGS ON THURSDAY THE THIRTEENTH open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
And while the most important thing you can do is to be able to tell our President THIS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
And it would be PRETTY COOL to sign his birthday card!
It’s almost President Trump’s BIRTHDAY!
— GOP (@GOP) June 9, 2019
Wish our GREAT President a happy birthday HERE
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
Now – let’s talk about a video.
A video featuring a guy I know very little about, named David Icke.
I don’t know who this guy is. I know almost nothing about him. But I do know this.
After I watched this, I UNDERSTOOD why Silicon Valley is censoring us and why they DO NOT CARE AT ALL WHAT WE THINK ABOUT IT.
So NOW – please watch this. It’s just 10 minutes.
Here is a back-up link to Icke’s own site:
https://www.davidicke.com/article/539582/will-done-2030-featuring-david-icke
What do you think about this?
To me, the most important point is this:
I believe these Silicon Valley people who are censoring us see the world in a completely different way than we do. I believe they no longer actually care what we think.
I am starting to think that they are actually BLIND to many kinds of thought. They have LOST DISCERNMENT.
Their BRAINS have not resisted some process that WE HAVE. Just like Icke describes.
I am reminded of an episode of the New Outer Limits called “Stream of Consciousness”:
https://www.thetvdb.com/series/the-outer-limits-1995/episodes/78006
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_of_Consciousness_(The_Outer_Limits)
The opening and closing narrations are worth reading.
We quantify our world in order to learn. We break it down into facts, numbers, information. But how far dare we go before we destroy its mystery?
We make tools to extend our abilities, to further our reach, and fulfill our aspirations. But we must never let them define us. For if there is no difference between tool and maker, then who will be left to build the world?
I don’t know the answers to these questions. Nor do I know if, when, or how these questions will be answered. However, I believe that WE have questions that THEY are not even willing to admit are valid questions, much less answer.
Most importantly, I believe that our technological elite lack fundamental moral principles needed to safely do what they are doing. Their moral blind spots are dangerous. The technology they create – with baked-in error – will become dangerous – to itself and everything else.
That’s OK. WE have the Base Designer to fall back on. And we have a FIXER in the White House, too. With God, all FIXES are possible!
W
Whaddya mean Bernie Sanders is trying to sell me on Socialism?
Woke up this morning and flipped on the news. First story was about a survey of how socialism is gaining traction among women. What? Makes no sense! Contradiction in philosophy. How are women supposed to be modern, strong, make their own decisions, independent…. yet want to be taken care of…. not by a man…. but by the state? Too proud to compromise with a husband to make a successful marriage…. yet willing to sell their souls and become passive…. to the state? Women don’t like being trapped in oppressive households and relationships. Ladies, be careful what you wish for.
Socialism is a bad idea for men and women…….. but it’s even worse for women, and all of us should know better.
I read Bernie’s platform in 2016 and the platform of the Democratic Socialists of America (DCA). If you have not read it, give it a try. It’s a contract for your life, and you should read it before signing up…… Bottom line, DCA/Bernie/AOC and her buddies advocate for government control of healthcare, banking, and all energy. Anyone who’s gone beyond an 8th grade education understands this is a bad idea…. that is….if we want to be free.
Everyone who has ever had their heart broken, especially women, should easily understand this conundrum. Nothing is ever ALL sunshine and rainbows. Without the rain, there are no flowers. Without ugly, there is no beauty. Without money, there are no great shoes…..
The problem is, socialism isn’t all gimme, gimme, gimme….. free college, better wages, guaranteed jobs, and life as a special rainbow unicorn in utopia. It’s a trade-off. No one talks about what we have to give up…. to get the “free” stuff. The politicians never mention the bad parts. WHAT college will the politician ALLOW you to go to? WHO will select YOUR job, YOUR career (because there will be a bureaucrat and a test to take in order to decide your career path)? WHAT will you be allowed to eat? HOW many children will YOU be allowed to have……. if any? WHERE will YOU be ALLOWED to live? It won’t be YOUR choice…. a bureaucrat will make the decision. With socialism, those days of “choices” are gone. Let’s not be stupid, here.
With capitalism, we have to work for and earn what we receive. What are you willing to do? We all want to be trim and fit, but are you willing to exercise and eat well?
We all want to be loved, but are you willing to invest in relationships, compromise, forgive, and heaven forbid, occasionally admit to being wrong? Could you relinquish your position even when you know you’re right? Because to be loved and in a relationship will take a LOT of capitulation….. for both parties. Or is it easier for you to get a dog/cat… where you can always be right?
We all want to be rich, but are you willing to forego instant gratification, work endless hours to develop your product or idea, buck the trends and your friends, remain determined……. even after you may fail multiple times? Could you do it? Or would you rather have “rich” fall into your lap…. easily.
Think about it. What are you willing to “give” in order to “take”, because there is always a trade-off.
Bigger questions….. What would make you happy? Does controlling others make YOU happy? Do YOU really think you would be one of those in power in a socialist system? I’m laughing…. some people assume they will be…… Do you have realistic expectations? What makes YOU so special? Why shouldn’t your neighbor be in charge of what YOU can have?
Would being rich, loved, or handsome/beautiful make you happy…… or is it really something else which is makes you angry, driving you, makes you restless, causes your fear? And most importantly, WHEN do you answer those questions? When you’re 20? 30? 60? Or never….. Do you die with that baggage because it’s too hard to ask those questions? Look around, how many people do you know who live….. and die…… with a chip on their shoulder? Wow, what a burden to carry.
Aubergine said something yesterday or day before and it made my blood run cold. In a personal moment, she spoke of her mother being incredibly manipulative. The relationship with her mother caused her great pain, but taught her to stay away from people like her mother. She learned. I didn’t wish for the pain of Aubergine’s experience as a child, but oh, how I was jealous to not learn the lesson earlier in my life….. because it would have saved a great deal of pain in my life. And right there, I was guilty. I wished for Aubergine’s knowledge/experience……. without the trade-off of pain, and the wisdom with comes from the pain.
Nothing is ever free. What’s the trade-off? Yin and Yang. Equal and opposite reactions. Cause and effect. A free and easy life promised by politicians……no problems….. …sunshine and rainbows…… at no personal cost…… you’ve got to be kidding………. Who believes this crap?
The promise of socialism is so fake, so obvious, it’s like trying to sell a diet of doughnuts and beer, to ensure the body of a supermodel or the Diet Coke guy. It reminds me of Hallmark movies, where the young girl’s absent father reappears and he’s really a prince….. and sweeps away the young girl and her forlorn/bitter mother to a faraway European Castle. Yet, the Hallmark fairy tales edit out teenage pimples, all the overdue bills, mom working two jobs, many nights of tears at 2:00am, and the girl not being popular in school.
Socialism is a fairytale. Grow up.
Today, too many people are buying what slick politicians are selling. They believe in the fairytale, take the easy path, the short cut to whatever we want…. It’s even better for politicians because they control the process…. Take the money and nice lifestyle from someone else… who earned it = socialism. The socialists rationalize their behavior, “They have to pay their fair share.”, but when do YOU do your fair share of the work? What are you willing to give up?
Healthcare
With the ACA, women who are beyond child-bearing years, and women who never want children, lesbians, those who are sterile, still pay a higher healthcare premium because maternity coverage is mandated by ACA. Is it worth an extra $200/month to you? Cuz you’re paying for it. A bureaucrat made the decision and YOU have no choice.
The interest on all student loans was raised from 3-6% to 6-9% because the government makes money on student loans, about $42 billion a year…. and the earnings help to subsidize healthcare. With an average student loan of $25K, the increase of about 3% is costing YOU about $75/month extra. Is it worth it? Cuz you’re paying for it. Did you think just the rich people were paying taxes? Hahaaaa. A bureaucrat made the decision.
Yes it is noble to advocate for healthcare for the poor but let’s look at what we have to give up……. the trade-off. Yes, our system failed as those with serious illness were driven to bankruptcy because of healthcare costs but this particular problem has not yet been addressed. Yet, the ACA wrecked healthcare for the VAST majority of Americans, no choice of physician, led to part-time jobs, and spiraling premiums (mine is up 400% and I still go out of network, pay cash, cross a state line, to visit our family doctor)…. cuz the insurance companies were guaranteed a 15% profit. Gee, who wouldn’t want to be in a business with a guaranteed profit…… with no cost reduction measures as part of the deal. Who represented the American people for such bad contract? Ahhh, yes, it was the Dems, the precursor to socialized medicine.
Limited choices and more expense. Any 8th grader would reject it. Women with a student loan are paying about $275/month more = trade-off.
Banking
Why would anyone think it would be a good idea for a government to take over our banking sector. Are they kidding? The answer from the American left to the Crash of 2008 was Elizabeth Warren’s Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, February 21, 2011. The Obama/Holder DOJ didn’t prosecute anyone for the Crash of 2008. No one went to jail. We got the crash of 2008 because the government thought they could regulate housing and EVERYONE deserved a house. How did that work out?
Tell me, who has benefitted from the CFPB? My little bank used to spend $300K a year in compliance costs. After CFPB, they spend about $2 million/yr. It’s less money for car loans, kitchen remodels, small biz expansion…. and less employees in the bank. How was the CFPB good? We still have loan shark pay-day loan businesses and exorbitant credit card interest for those who can least afford it. Ahhhhh, that’s right, the CFPB doesn’t answer to Congress…. so we’re really not sure.
The CFPB fined banks for billions of dollars (12 billion so far) ( Link ) and is allowed to redistribute funds to “community organizations” which have a loose connection to those who were allegedly harmed. So the CFPB is really just a money train, taking money from banks…… and makes the cost of banking rise, for every American. Did you know, the CFPB has fielded 720K complaints since 2011……. which are public so anyone can make a wild claim, but the same database already existed at the FTC (which is private and adjudicated). It’s a dual effort…… yet the CFPB does employ another 12K people at government expense.
Duplicate agencies, the CFPB with no accountability to Congress, waste of taxpayer dollars…….. no, the 8th grader says, “NO!”. The 12 billion + cost of 12K workers = 13.74billion/150 million adult Americans = It cost you $91.60/year for a duplicate agency OR an amount equal to about 1/4 of the entire budget for the Dept of Education.
Energy
The idea of our government taking over the energy sector is scary. Even with Obama’s sluggish economy, the PRIVATE oil sector created fracking and a boom began, employing millions. We also recall the $6,000/gallon biofuel the Obama Administration insisted upon for the US Military, and the $7000 per car subsidy for electric cars. Billions upon billions were lost to “invest” in renewables and sustainable energy, and no socialist cared about children in the Congo mining Cobalt for 14 hours a day. Advances in nuclear energy were ignored. Coal production was all but shut down for “climate change” while the Chinese built 5 coal plants a month ….. because the bureaucrat in charge picked favorites. The Trump Admin came to office and 60K coal miners went back to work…. supplying clean coal plants….. reducing our energy bills and giving us more options for energy. We even export coal, decreasing our trade deficit. The USA is often referred to as the OPEC of coal. Who walks away from #1 status?
Those of us who are old enough to remember the OPEC embargo of the 70’s recall the humiliation of Americans standing in line, our economy brought to a standstill, because Middle Eastern Countries would not sell us oil. I was young but shocked a country as powerful as our’s could be brought to our knees. Well, under the Trump Administration, we’re now the #1 Oil and LNG producer in the world. A competent government would have addressed the problem much sooner.
Even if we were to assume Global Warming is the dire problem the DCA believes it is, we know Petroleum forms the base of thousands of products. Petroleum is also in the top three trade items of every single country on earth. It makes economic sense, and sound national security policy, to be a global leader in the petroleum industry…… unless you’re an ideologue who is a member of the DCA.
My fictional 8th grader took a look at this partial list of 6,000 items made with petroleum. The 8th grader wants to keep these items and is not willing to give up petroleum production…. even for the promise of freebies in a perfect world with sunshine and rainbows. My guess is …… the women who THINK they want socialism would reject such an ugly, smelly, dirty, socialist utopia.
Take A Look At The List of Petroleum Products
Even for shallow self-absorbed females……. Without nail polish, shampoo, makeup, lipstick, sunglasses, toothpaste, hair curlers, sweaters, dresses, perfumes, soap, purses, shoes, and deodorant…. no woman would want to live in such a world. (Link )
Diesel Fishing lures Dresses Tires Golf Bags Perfumes Cassettes Dishwasher Tool Boxes Shoe Polish Motorcycle Helmet Caulking Petroleum Jelly Transparent Tape
CD Players Motor Oil Bearing Grease Ink Floor Wax Ballpoint Pens Football CleatsUpholstery Sweaters Boats Insecticides Bicycle Tires Sports Car Bodies Nail Polisher Faucet Washers Antiseptics Clothesline Curtains Food Preservatives Basketballs Soap Vitamin Capsules Antihistamines Purses Shoes
Dashboards Cortisone Deodorant FootballsPutty Dyes Panty Hose Refrigerant Percolator Skis TV Cabinets Shag Rugs Electrician’s Tape Tool Racks Car Battery Cases Epoxy Paint Mops Slacks Insect Repellent Oil Filters
Umbrellas Yarn Fertilizers Hair ColoringRoofing Toilet Seats Fishing Rods Lipstick Denture Adhesive Linoleum Ice Cube Trays Synthetic Rubber Speakers Plastic Wood Electric Blankets Glycerin
Tennis Rackets Rubber Cement Fishing Boots Dice Nylon Rope Candles Trash Bags House Paint Water Pipes Hand Lotion Roller Skates Surf BoardsShampoo Paint Rollers Shower Curtains Guitar Strings Luggage Aspirin Safety Glasses
Antifreeze Football Helmets Awnings Eyeglasses Clothes Toothbrushes Ice Chests Footballs Combs CD’s Paint Brushes Detergents Vaporizers Balloons SunGlasses Tents Heart Valves Crayons Parachutes TelephonesEnamel Pillows Dishes Cameras Anesthetics Artificial Turf Artificial limbs Bandages
Refrigerators Golf Balls Toothpaste Gasoline Ink Dishwashing liquids Paint brushes Telephones Toys Unbreakable dishes Insecticides Antiseptics
Dolls Car sound insulation Fishing lures Deodorant Tires Motorcycle helmets Linoleum Sweaters Tents Refrigerator linings Paint rollers Floor wax
Shoes
Nah, the women who run businesses and need caulking, diesel, floorwax, coolers, ammonia, chemicals, …….. and our lipstick…. will stick with capitalism.
With Socialism, we have no choices. The bureaucrats decide what we should do and we’re too independent now. The trade-off is too steep, the cost to high. We’ll keep our freedom. Maybe we should start walking or running to lose a few pounds and/or be happy with the way we look. Yes, we could probably figure out a way to save $5/day, and accumulate a little nest egg. And that guy around the corner, who worships the ground we walk on…… he’s willing to compromise and meet us halfway. Maybe, we should give him a chance.
Socialism wants to assure equality of all people. No one poor, but no one exceptional either. Why try? Why innovate? Why be a leader? Why defend anyone? Pretty soon…. we wouldn’t even “want” or “hope” anymore…. because everything we did want would not be allowed by bureaucrats.
Thanks anyway, DCA. No thanks, Bernie.
No deal.
This WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED WEDNESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
And while the most important thing you can do is to be able to tell our President THIS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
It would also be PRETTY COOL to sign his birthday card!
It’s almost President Trump’s BIRTHDAY!
— GOP (@GOP) June 9, 2019
Wish our GREAT President a happy birthday HERE
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
The commies are getting very OUT IN THE OPEN now….
Check out RED DIAPER SUE….
More about Natural News getting the boot from their LAST PLATFORM – Facebook…
….and more coverage from Breitbart….
I am rankled by all of this censorship, but oddly, it’s the Natural News ban that just bugs the heck out of me.
This was done because of vaccines. THAT is where the “misinformation” censorship begins.
I’m a bit of a “Ben Carson type” on vaccines. I think they’re awesome, but I really don’t think we’re being HONEST about both the benefits and dangers. We’re not even being honest about the LOGIC of vaccines – how they work – why they work – and how close their powerful mechanism lies to the guts of the machinery.
Vaccines are like guns in a airplane. One of the best ways to take out hijackers. But if you don’t admit that BAD THINGS MIGHT HAPPEN, TOO, you are LYING.
So – for a pro-vaxxer, I’m actually very sympathetic to the other side, and believe that it’s not humane to force people to give vaccines to their children.
This was STANDARD LOGIC AND ETHICS back when I was a kid, in the early days of most vaccines, by the way.
Moreover, I think we have to be hyper-vigilant for the very FIRST sign of trouble in children getting vaccines, and to ASSUME – in an abundance of caution – that this may be some kind of dangerous sensitization. We must make extreme allowances for bad reactions to be taken as a warning sign against continued vaccination. Even if this means we are OVERLY CAUTIOUS.
But that’s not the REAL REASON I care about Health Ranger’s free speech.
This is very personal for me, because Health Ranger – meaning Mike Adams – the Natural News guy – is one of the few people in science that I still respect.
When the whole FBI was clearly lying through its teeth about the Las Vegas massacre, and the Communist Democrats and KGB-CIA were pouring out every kind of LIE and DISINFORMATION, a gadfly skeptic named Mike Adams, whose HOBBY was gunfire acoustic analysis, dared to PROVE (1) that most of the shots actually did come from a location consistent with the 32nd floor of Mandalay Bay, BUT (2) many of them DID NOT, and therefore there was a SECOND GUN.
His simple, solid line of evidence was never disproven – only mocked, stonewalled, and shilled against by people who did not approach the incident scientifically and skeptically, as did two misfits of science – Health Ranger and Wolf Moon.
Later, two lines of evidence for a second shooter emerged, fully consistent with both Health Ranger’s distance predictions for the second shooter, and certain witness statements that SEEMED like disinformation, but now made sense. The FBI actually HAS those witness statements, by they way.
One of these lines of evidence was videographic – images of people moving in a predicted sniper location, and at a time (and place) in accord with those witness statements.
The other line of evidence I HAVE NOT REVEALED. It is AWESOME STUFF, too.
Why, you might ask. Simple. There was so much REACTIVE DISINFORMATION by DNC communists, and suppression of evidence by the FBI under Andrew McCabe, that I refused to let injustice get its grubby mitts on the final card proving them all to be LIARS.
I have held onto my discovery like a lost wallet, that can ONLY be returned to its rightful owner, because NOBODY CAN BE TRUSTED.
Someday, I will return that wallet, but not today.
If you wondered WHY I did the horrific task of reading ALL 58 Las Vegas autopsies, then I can reveal that now. I wanted to PROVE OR DISPROVE whether there was a second gunman according to the HR/WM variant of the theory. Alas, the forensic evidence publicly available in the autopsies HINTS slightly toward a second gunman, but does not definitively prove or disprove the idea with the data available to me.
However, I strongly suspect that there is plenty of physical evidence in the autopsies and other evidence to prove a second gunman from a second location.
I believe that any failure to pronounce a second gunman and the probable location is either disinformation for investigative / prosecutorial purposes, or evidence that FBI is too infected to function correctly in this case.
But the bottom line is this.
I am now of the opinion that the Silicon Valley censorship monopolies must be destroyed.
Utterly.
Smashed into a thousand pieces.
W
Remember your first apartment? We all started out with nothing. We had no “stuff”. At 22yrs old, I was shocked apartments did not come equipped with sheets, blenders, pots and pans, etc. Rude awakening…… I was so naive. The acquisition of stuff comes slowly. As we move from home to home, we weed out items no longer needed. We have garage sales when the kids outgrow baby gear or leave for college. By the time we retire, we wonder, “Where did all this stuff come from?”
I remember my first apartment well, and I needed a lot of “stuff”. The budget could handle $100 at every pay period for shopping at Zayre…. for ironing boards, a pitcher for iced tea, knives, cutting boards, a coffee pot, plants for the balcony, shelves, books, shoe trees, a vacuum, and lots of pots and pans. Still, on a budget, I became a garage sale queen. Along the way, a little guy in Miami beach taught me the power of buying wholesale. By the time I cashed out and moved home to New Orleans, my dad mocked my quest to make a silk purse from a sow’s ear……. born from necessary thriftiness……… he swore he would bury me with a can of white spray paint…. Yet, I was comfortable with my little pile of stuff and had enough stuff to at least be comfortable.
When we moved into the big house, the need for “stuff” was overwhelming. It took decades to outfit the house. The scale is bigger. Everything a home would normally need …. put a zero behind it. There are 13 bathrooms here, 14 couches, 6 refrigerators, and on and on. Still, being the thrifty chic, a shopped many flea markets, auctions, garage sales………. until one day, I came home with 12 used wooden crutches, $.25/piece, $3.00 total sale. That was 1994.
Husband helping me unpack the car: “What the hell are you going to do with used, POS wooden crutches?”
Me: “Oh, not to worry, I’ll find something to do with them.”
Husband: “The attic is going to cave in! You have too much stuff up there.”
While I agreed with my first husband’s fiscal prudence, it was the stuff in the attic which paid our bills and afforded us a nice lifestyle, while we banked money for his construction company to grow. He scoffed, shook his head, and endlessly debated every small purchase, wondering how my mind worked.
Wouldn’t you know it? 25 years later, I gave away my last crutch this weekend, for a retirement party, the crawfish boil this weekend. I dressed up the crutch with a big bow and FEDEX logo. It was my girlfriend’s gift to her husband. Her speech was beautiful. He was her crutch, little bit of extra help, holding her up for the 46 years they have been married. They raised beautiful and successful children. He mentored hundreds if not thousands of executives in his career. He helped to make his community better through boy scouts and his church. He served his country through military service. Truth is, if he died tomorrow, his eulogy would take 2 pages in the local paper…… but he’s onto something else, another chapter, mentoring troubled kids. Yeah, the truth us, he didn’t need a crutch…….. HE WAS THE CRUTCH to so many, throughout his life.
She cried, he cried, we all cried. Perfect gift…. cost me $.25. Her speech made it priceless.
Now, I need more crutches. I’m out. I started thinking about all the things we did with those crutches over the past 25 years.
Because we live so close to the school, teachers would often grab me for help. Quite often I would look out the window to find a class of kids “taking a field trip” in our backyard. I didn’t mind and encouraged the idea…. with chocolate chip cookies, etc. We never had to worry about broken windows or vandalism because the kids viewed our house, in a way, as their house. One time, a frustrated history teacher and his class appeared in the field out back. It was a gorgeous spring day, and the kids were restless. The teacher decided to stop fighting and let them outside, but they needed something to do. I bounced down from the attic with wooden crutches and we ran relays…… fresh air and exercise…… for an hour…….. back to class…. with a cookie… Easy peasy.
As a thank you to the girls basketball team for acting as my brides for a bridal show, we hosted a small party for them. We blindfolded the girls and made them run relays with crutches as one event.
Had a girlfriend, dying of cancer, with young children. Girls got together to cheer her up. I spray-painted a wooden crutch, all white, put fake flowers and a bow on it. No reason she should not look special while she could still go out. She was loved.
A young veteran came home, injured, part of a huge family. I painted one crutch red, white, and blue stripes, with a big red bow. He’s gone now, of suicide, but I was in the home recently. His parents left his room undisturbed….. crutch in the corner as a memory from a happier day.
Son of a dear friend was at St. Jude’s for an extended stay. It was a sad time for us all. My first husband had one of his carpenters cut down a crutch and reconfigure the arm rest to child size. I decorated it. The child was endlessly optimistic, not understanding how ill he was. He showed his crutch to everyone, proudly. It made my heart break.
Mother-in-law broke her ankle and was prescribed a “specialized” crutch for $350+. She passed. Called me when she got home, requested a crutch “in her size” (like I was a local distributor), and added…… “But I want a pretty one, dress it up a bit.” and finally, “I wear a lot of purple, blue, and reds”…… so…. her crutch was supposed to match her wardrobe. Got it.
We had retirement parties at the house where we hung crutches from picture molding with bright streamers…… in the formal dining room. People wondered, “How did you get that idea?”……”Oh that’s a clever idea”. Me, “Oh, just something we had in the attic.” Necessity really is the mother of invention.
Every 40th, 50th, 60th birthday party or retirement party (Fire chief, police, Mayors, teachers, and a nurse) beget a special crutch and a warm tribute. Sometimes we hung a wreath in the middle of a crutch and placed it on a front door… grand entrance, for a retirement party. One by one, all the crutches found new homes.
But all the crutches are gone now, and gee whiz, I might need one in a few years. Ha! 25 years worth of good memories….sad times…. shared together……. all for $3.00. The attic bares a slightly lighter load, a little bit less “stuff”.
We’re going to have to find a way to give away refrigerators…..
This TO STOP THEM FROM STOPPING OUR MOVEMENT TUESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
And while the most important thing you can do is to be able to tell our President THIS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
It would also be PRETTY COOL to sign his birthday card!
It’s almost President Trump’s BIRTHDAY!
— GOP (@GOP) June 9, 2019
Wish our GREAT President a happy birthday HERE
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
MAGA Mom had a most excellent summary of something that has happened.
Don’t BLAMECAST about it – please – that just feeds into it. But I want people here to understand what has happened. MAGA Mom did the NUMBERS and they explain something.
MAGA Mom
Let me recap and see if I have a grasp on the situation:
1) Thread on actual censorship, deplatforming and silencing conservative voices, groups & opinions: 61 comments
2) Open Thread: huge debate on being nice and self censoring, name calling, humor v. growing a thicker skin, etc.: 80+ (as I stopped counting) & 27 comments on this topic on this page so far
Hmmm…priorities??? distractions???
Think about where we are spending our time, our energy and our focus, our combined brain power!
I am not saying I am upset with BakoCarl for starting the debate (or anyone else, for that matter!) or that the topic is unimportant. I happen to agree to an extent in huge part because I think certain name calling is distracting and ineffective. Whether it is nice or not I will leave up to others as my mission is not to be “nice” but to MAGA as I said in my comment on the previous page and name calling or disparaging people on physical characteristics or on being gay/lesbian is a turn off to many and therefore decreases our effectiveness as we loose audience to truth and facts re political candidates and issues.
(https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/06/10/dear-maga-20190610-open-topic/comment-page-1/#comment-170240)
My point is, So much discussion on this topic and not the same on the political enemy and their methods, our choices to counteract and ideas on what we can do. Why!?! What should be our actual focus right now?! We need to spend as much time analyzing, sharing facts, links, researching, synergysing on possible political action as we do sharing our feelings and opinions.
Let’s harness our brainpower and put at least as much time and thought into the censorship being implemented by others as we do on self censorship & appropriate names and criticism for our political opponents.
And Please don’t tell me that I am just being sensitive as I have fibromyalgia and would feel that you are being mean as well as ridiculing and belittling all of those in my condition if you associate negative connotations with sensitivity.
MAGA Mom, June 10, 2019 at 18:56
Now – if I even talk about any of this stuff, to some extent that action falls, MOST IRONICALLY, into what MAGA Mom is talking about. And when I was posting about this stuff earlier – YES – it was exactly what she is talking about.
And LET ME TELL YOU THIS – which REALLY PROVES what she is talking about.
I have been intending for SEVERAL DAYS to talk about the NEXT PHASE OF CENSORSHIP.
I have critical information about this. I tried to do a BIG POST to explain it earlier, and got all kinds of bandwidth problems that made me lose EVERYTHING. I think I ended up calling it “Placeholder Friday” in frustration, publishing a near-empty daily thread.
So I was going to fix it on Monday. But no. I spent all day on a sideshow, much of which was (ironically) MY OWN DOING. Yes. I was – you might say, “Sideshow Wolf”! 
HOWEVER, TheseTruths responded by stating something very important which captures why I have wasted my time on stuff I didn’t really want to do:
TheseTruths
“So much discussion on this topic and not the same on the political enemy and their methods, our choices to counteract and ideas on what we can do.”
This topic IS about the political enemy and their methods and what we need to do. A number of the posts, including mine, have pointed out that they are trying to suppress our free speech with demands of political correctness and censorship. It doesn’t hurt to be reminded of that and have a heightened awareness so we don’t get inadvertently sucked in to their schemes. That kind of psychological preparedness is part of the battle.
TheseTruths, June 10, 2019 at 20:17
This is exactly correct. We ARE in the censorship fight, and BY GOD, IT’S ON OUR SOIL.
Bluntly, we are taking one on the chin – but we are taking it well. Look at it that way. We have an actual demonstration of how they cannot effectively undermine us, but they CAN get us to undermine ourselves.
This is why I was forced to warn people about how the other side will DESPERATELY try to shut us down, shut us up, and make us ineffective, by influence – EXPERT influence – on individual members. Stuff you will likely not recognize, and may NEVER recognize.
And I will NOT let it happen. So I had to inform you about CRUEL REALITIES OF THIS WORLD.
I had to WARN PEOPLE. Because I know what’s coming, and it’s UGLY.
The other side is spending MILLIONS OF DOLLARS – ON THE GROUND – IN REAL LIFE – to shut our side up. RIGHT NOW. I am literally WATCHING THEM do it. LITERALLY. The White Hats know *exactly* what I’m talking about.
Remember what they did to JIM JORDAN in Ohio? That cost them millions of dollars and ultimately FAILED, but you can bet that a shitload (pardon my French) of money was spent to INFLUENCE PEOPLE to make that happen. Individuals. Influenced, positioned, and manipulated. Using LAWYERS. Expensive LAWYERS.
And lawyers, psychologists, and even rat-bastard communists in beater junkie stake-out cars cost money.
They are doing it now. EVERYWHERE. And some of that money is designated to influence YOU. So think very carefully about what the social media puts in front of you, because THEY THINK ABOUT IT VERY CAREFULLY.
Twitter is so much more than you think it is. The DEVIL is in details of CODE that HIDE from oversight or legal discovery.
Most of it is programmed – automated – but not all of it. When they see a point where the economics of influencing specific people needs a human touch, it gets a human touch.
Here is a TIP. They love to use OLD PEOPLE, SICK PEOPLE, and PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP. Those people are very real, and very deserving of our sympathy and help.
BUT….
Your response makes you PREDICTABLE. And that is all they need.
“Wounded hostage ambush.” I use this analogy all the time, because they use this method all the time.
We are at WAR. So when you go to the hospital, wear an invisible AR-15 on your back. Wear your SPIRIT GUN and watch the fuck out. Because they are watching you.
Now – I close with a VICTORY. We had a big win today.
Not here – but where it COUNTS BIG.
Oh, yeah. This lady was RIGHT.
SO – here is what I’m going to do.
I am going to start working on my censorship post, which CONTINUES the discussion of Daughn’s censorship post. That post should be ready by morning.
We are FIGHTING BACK. And we are fighting back NOW.
W
